Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question.
Thank you all for the excellent suggestions. This EXEC is for a single user(me) who should remember to change the storage size in the first place. It's nothing mission critical, so I'll just have to remember to change the storage size. I guess I was hoping for a double-secret diag code or something that only Chuckie knew. Again, thanks to all who responded. Steve G.
Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question.
Steve - I wrote my VMSTOR EXEC in 1985 to change storage and IPL CMS or CMSL and then invoke an EXEC or CMS command. Here's an example: /* SPSS EXEC FJH 01/14/85 SRU */ /* Change VM machine size if necessary for SPSS */ parse arg PARAMETERS 'VMSIZE' /* VM machine size is returned in RC */ if RC 4095 RC 10241 /* Must run in 4M to 10M machine */ then push SPSSX PARAMETERS else push 'VMSTOR 4096K' SPSSX PARAMETERS exit In your case you would use: VMSTOR 50M SRGMOD MOD_NAME The EXEC still works in z/VM 3.1 . It is extremely fast and there is no manual intervention of any kind. I am sending the exec to Steve offline. I will send it to anyone first thing Friday morning to anyone who requests it today. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43 years [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock - On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:14:26 -0500 Steve Gentry said: I have an EXEC I want to run but I need to be sure the user has a certain amount of virtual storage before it can run. I can get this information with PIPE and a Q V STOR. If the storage is less than 50M then I want to increase the storage to 50M. Then I want the EXEC to continue on. Here is the code snippet. 'cp define stor 50m' || '15'x || 'I CMS' || '15'x || 'srgmod' mod_name The define stor works ok, the I CMS works ok but it won't run the srgmod EXEC (mod_name is an arg I supply) Is this because when the I CMS runs it clears storage, resets pointers or something? If so, is there a way I can accomplish this? Thanks, Steve G.
Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question.
On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 08:05 EST, Steve Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all for the excellent suggestions. This EXEC is for a single user(me) who should remember to change the storage size in the first place. It's nothing mission critical, so I'll just have to remember to change the storage size. I guess I was hoping for a double-secret diag code or something that only Chuckie knew. When I do this, my PROFILE EXEC will query the virtual storage size and re-IPL using the DEFINE STORAGE #IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR trick. Naturally you pass the test on the second trip through the profile, so it doesn't do it again. And, unlike when issued from the command line, a failure in DEFINE STOR (e.g. exceeeds maxstor) will suppress the IPL. That is, the DIAG ends when one of the commands gives a non-zero RC. -- Chuckie
Re: HCPSAS875A
We had the same msg under z/VM 5.2 a while back. HW folks were doing some prep work for a new shark box at the time I think, and we attributed it to that. Neither of the 2 z/os lpars complained, but the CE also found a problem with the support element(?). So we deferred our normal weekly IPL until he performed whatever service was required on that, and we haven't seen it again. ??? So, I don't know if the msg was indeed related to the shark work, or the support element problem that was found, but I am glad we held off on our weekly IPL. Sorry, probably not much help, but for what it's worth. Larry B. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPSAS875A Hello Rich, Hmm. Can you find out what the microcode load was suppose to fix or enhance? It would be nice if the message would pinpoint what the function was that is now just a subset. If you find out, post the answers, please. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPSAS875A There were no messages at the HMC; however, we have confirmed that someone was doing a concurrent microcode load at the time. Funny thing, only one of 3 LPARS, all running the same VP CP, reported the problem. The only message at OPERATOR was the HCPSAS875A. It has been reported to IBM via the hardware channels. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPSAS875A Hello Rich, Do you have any message at the HMC? And if you just IPLed what does the log from OPERATOR have in the way of messages that happened before the HCPSA875A message? What was the last change to SYSTEM CONFIG or the IOCP? Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441
Re: Unexpected DEFINE NIC Results
Check your directory for NICDEFs and your MVSXExx users for error messages. I suspect you have a NICDEF or Define NIC with devices greater than 3. For example you could have a NICDEF 1340 type qdio devices 6 CP SEND does not show you the error message on your console but instead over on MVSXE49's. So your define nic might have failed but your couple still succeeded in coupling the base nic address (1340) to your VSWITCH. The detach then destroyed the 1340 nic allowing the next define nic to succeed and you get the results you originally wanted. I'd be happy to look at this issue more if you want to send me your consoles or a snapshot of your directory, etc. Tracy (Bolinda) Adams z/VM Development - Virtual Networking Scully, William P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/10/2007 01:37 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Unexpected DEFINE NIC Results Sometimes CP doesn't do what you expect. Here's an example where I needed the NIC for z/OS to be at address 1344 rather than 0D00. Not hard to fix dynamically... Let's try: q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 4Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE83 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; cp send cp mvsxe83 detach nic d00 Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 3Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; cp send cp mvsxe83 define nic 1344 type qdio Ready; cp send cp mvsxe83 couple 1344 system intrav6 Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 4Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 0D00 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE83 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; OK, one down, two to go, (now that I have my technique down pat): cp send cp mvsxe49 detach nic d00 Ready; cp send cp mvsxe62 detach nic d00 Ready; cp send cp mvsxe49 define nic 1344 type qdio Ready; cp send cp mvsxe62 define nic 1344 type qdio Ready; cp send cp mvsxe49 couple 1344 system intrav6 Ready; cp send cp mvsxe62 couple 1344 system intrav6 Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 4Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 1340 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 1340 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE83 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; Huh? Where did 1340 come from? Oh well, if at first you don't succeed: cp send cp mvsxe49 detach nic 1340 Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 3Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 1340 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE83 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; cp send cp mvsxe49 define nic 1344 type qdio Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 4Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 1340 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE83 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE97 NIC: 4100 Name: UNASSIGNED Ready; cp send cp mvsxe49 couple 1344 system intrav6 Ready; q vswitch intrav6 details VSWITCH SYSTEM INTRAV6 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 4Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware State: Defined IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 Adapter Owner: MVSXE49 NIC: 1344 Name: UNASSIGNED Adapter Owner: MVSXE62 NIC: 1340 Name:
Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question.
Now that is scary!!! Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:24 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question. PUT2PROD SEGMENTS uses this architecture more or less, fires up the BLDSEG virtual machine, FORCE it off, logs it on again for a different segment. Same for BLDCMS machine but that is single purpose. How about that - admiring PUT2PROD ! David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wed 1/10/2007 5:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] PIPE, CMS kind of question. We have a REIPL EXEC that will change the storage size and IPL whatever was last IPLed. It does not, at the current time, pass any command to the PROFILE, but it would not be rocket surgery to add that functionality. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question. A different approach might be to send a message to operator (PROP or some other automation) and then logoff. PROP would then issue an XAUTOLOG specifying a storage size of 50m and passing console input with the exec name and the parm for the exec. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PIPE, CMS kind of question. I have an EXEC I want to run but I need to be sure the user has a certain amount of virtual storage before it can run. I can get this information with PIPE and a Q V STOR. If the storage is less than 50M then I want to increase the storage to 50M. Then I want the EXEC to continue on. Here is the code snippet. 'cp define stor 50m' || '15'x || 'I CMS' || '15'x || 'srgmod' mod_name The define stor works ok, the I CMS works ok but it won't run the srgmod EXEC (mod_name is an arg I supply) Is this because when the I CMS runs it clears storage, resets pointers or something? If so, is there a way I can accomplish this? Thanks, Steve G. ella for Spam Control has removed 9430 VSE-List messages and set aside 6685 VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com
START UR FCB Operand
One of my printers on a VM/ESA 2.2 system has an FCB name defined that I cannot figure out how to clear. Any name or number I try causes CP to complain about the FCB not being found and it drains the printer. Is there an alternative to finding the field in real storage and zapping it? -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg
START UR FCB Operand
One of my printers on a VM/ESA 2.2 system has an FCB name defined that I cannot figure out how to clear. Any name or number I try causes CP to complain about the FCB not being found and it drains the printer. Is there an alternative to finding the field in real storage and zapping it? You don't say what kind of printer it is, but if it is an impact printer, the FCB you specify must be in the image library (IMG file) for that printer. Issue Q IMG to see the image libraries that are defined on your system. There is a control file for each of the image libraries (IMAG CNTRL, where is the printer type). The control file has have the names of the FCBs and character sets that are defined in the image library for your printer. John Franciscovich z/VM Development
Re: START UR FCB Operand
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:19:40PM -0500, John Franciscovich wrote: You don't say what kind of printer it is, but if it is an impact printer, the FCB you specify must be in the image library (IMG file) for that printer. Issue Q IMG to see the image libraries that are defined on your system. There is a control file for each of the image libraries (IMAG CNTRL, where is the printer type). The control file has have the names of the FCBs and character sets that are defined in the image library for your printer. Sorry, it's a 3211 as far as CP knows. It shouldn't be using an FCB image at all; at least, none of the other printers do. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg
Re: START UR FCB Operand
Obviously you are too young to remember the 1403 and 3215. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: START UR FCB Operand On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 12:05 EST, David L. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my printers on a VM/ESA 2.2 system has an FCB name defined that I cannot figure out how to clear. Any name or number I try causes CP to complain about the FCB not being found and it drains the printer. Is there an alternative to finding the field in real storage and zapping it? Try START ... DEFFCB. I don't know if CP will notice or care whether or not you've used the LOADFCB command. But an impact printer needs an FCB to print correctly (that's how it knows where channel 1 is located!). Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: START UR FCB Operand
Hi David, In the CP Planning and Administration book heading Creating and Modifying Image Libraries for Printers, you can see the UCS and FCB images used with a 3211 printer. You should have a IMG3211 CNTRL file as John indicated. If it is not found when you do the Q IMG, then you will need to use the IMAGMOD IMG3211 command. What are the odds that I just did this yesterday? Doug Breneman z/VM Development IBM Endicott, New York Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: From: David L. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: START UR FCB Operand On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:19:40PM -0500, John Franciscovich wrote: You don't say what kind of printer it is, but if it is an impact printer, the FCB you specify must be in the image library (IMG file) for that printer. Issue Q IMG to see the image libraries that are defined on your system. There is a control file for each of the image libraries (IMAG CNTRL, where is the printer type). The control file has have the names of the FCBs and character sets that are defined in the image library for your printer. Sorry, it's a 3211 as far as CP knows. It shouldn't be using an FCB image at all; at least, none of the other printers do. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg
Re: START UR FCB Operand
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:54:12PM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: Try START ... DEFFCB. I don't know if CP will notice or care whether or not you've used the LOADFCB command. But an impact printer needs an FCB to print correctly (that's how it knows where channel 1 is located!). DEFFCB doesn't get around the problem. I just found the LOADBUF command writeup and I'm going to try telling it to use FCB1. (And I used 1403s and punched their FCBs :) ) -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
I opened a feedback with IBMLink support, asking how to determoine the current ESO level for a product. Their answer: On IBMLink 2000 there is no selection by product id. You are expected to know the current level of the product for which you are ordering. I am required by my management to check current levels of all my products monthly. All I can think of at the moment is to open an incident for each product once a month. Any other suggestions? What else did IBM throw away in moving to IBMLink 2000? Alan (dot) Ackerman at Bank of America dot com On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:54:55 -0600, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find the currently available ESO level for a product? In IBMLin k green screen, I used SRD 5, then changed 2 - 1 here: Select PRodIDs from a list? . . . 1 1. YES 2. NO This gave me a list of products like so: ProdID COMPIDRel Product Description VRM Level _ AVMVMQ20 5688SV101 122 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ AVMVMQ21 5688SV101 222 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ FVMVMQ20 5688SV101 123 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ FVMVMQ21 5688SV101 223 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ GVMVMQ21 5688SV101 224 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 I then scrolled down until I found my particular products: _ 5668812K 566881201 213 GDDM/PGF VM V2R1M3 0004 _ 568416A 568416801 311 GDDM/VM BASE V3R1M1 9911 Since the Level has not changed, there is no new ESO. How do I do this in IBMLink 2000? I called their 800 number and spent 30 minutes trying to explain my problem to someone in India who knew absolutely nothing about ESOs. He said level 2 would call me back, but I am still waiting. Is it any wopnder I hate IBMLink 2000? = ===
Re: START UR FCB Operand
On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 09:57 PST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously you are too young to remember the 1403 and 3215. Puh-leeze. I scoff in your general direction, Richard. I used to do Operator Duty on the 1403. (Now, where did I leave my coffee? I see we're splash out of paper. Oh, yes, now I remember where I left it...) :-) I was going on the rash assumption that David's printer wasn't so old as to require a physical carriage control (the thing the FCB replaced). If we're talking about emulated printers with built-in FCBs, then the DEFFCB option may suffice. The problem, of course, is that it is emulating a printer that an FCB to work. And CP knows that. Such is the reality of emulating old hardware. Maybe if it emulated a 1403... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
Boy, that is a customer oriented answer. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels I opened a feedback with IBMLink support, asking how to determoine the = current ESO level for a product. Their answer: On IBMLink 2000 there is no selection by product id. You are expected to= know the current level of the product for which you are ordering. I am required by my management to check current levels of all my products= monthly. All I can think of at the moment is to open an incident for each= product once a month. Any other suggestions? What else did IBM throw away in moving to IBMLink 2000? Alan (dot) Ackerman at Bank of America dot com On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:54:55 -0600, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find the currently available ESO level for a product? In IBMLin= k green screen, I used SRD 5, then changed 2 - 1 here: Select PRodIDs from a list? . . . 1 1. YES 2. NO This gave me a list of products like so: ProdID COMPIDRel Product Description VRM Level _ AVMVMQ20 5688SV101 122 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ AVMVMQ21 5688SV101 222 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ FVMVMQ20 5688SV101 123 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ FVMVMQ21 5688SV101 223 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ GVMVMQ21 5688SV101 224 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 I then scrolled down until I found my particular products: _ 5668812K 566881201 213 GDDM/PGF VM V2R1M3 0004 _ 568416A 568416801 311 GDDM/VM BASE V3R1M1 9911 Since the Level has not changed, there is no new ESO. How do I do this in IBMLink 2000? I called their 800 number and spent 30 minutes trying to explain my problem to someone in India who knew absolutely nothing about ESOs. He = said level 2 would call me back, but I am still waiting. Is it any wopnder I hate IBMLink 2000? = == ===
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
Does this answer what you need to know? http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/rsu_eso.html#VM_ESO Marcy Cortes WFS Enterprise Hosting Services - z/VM z/Linux (415) 243-6343 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:09 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels I opened a feedback with IBMLink support, asking how to determoine the = current ESO level for a product. Their answer: On IBMLink 2000 there is no selection by product id. You are expected to= know the current level of the product for which you are ordering. I am required by my management to check current levels of all my products= monthly. All I can think of at the moment is to open an incident for each= product once a month. Any other suggestions? What else did IBM throw away in moving to IBMLink 2000? Alan (dot) Ackerman at Bank of America dot com On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:54:55 -0600, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find the currently available ESO level for a product? In IBMLin= k green screen, I used SRD 5, then changed 2 - 1 here: Select PRodIDs from a list? . . . 1 1. YES 2. NO This gave me a list of products like so: ProdID COMPIDRel Product Description VRM Level _ AVMVMQ20 5688SV101 122 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ AVMVMQ21 5688SV101 222 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ FVMVMQ20 5688SV101 123 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R1M1 9404 _ FVMVMQ21 5688SV101 223 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 _ GVMVMQ21 5688SV101 224 VM/ESA SCREENVIEWV1R2M0 9404 I then scrolled down until I found my particular products: _ 5668812K 566881201 213 GDDM/PGF VM V2R1M3 0004 _ 568416A 568416801 311 GDDM/VM BASE V3R1M1 9911 Since the Level has not changed, there is no new ESO. How do I do this in IBMLink 2000? I called their 800 number and spent 30 minutes trying to explain my problem to someone in India who knew absolutely nothing about ESOs. He = said level 2 would call me back, but I am still waiting. Is it any wopnder I hate IBMLink 2000? = == ===
Re: START UR FCB Operand
btw sometimes age doesn't matter depends on the shop I know of a shop still running a 4331 w/ 3370 drives op sys hasn't been supported in years more like ages spins tapes an prints labels Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibm.com To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject ARK.EDU Re: START UR FCB Operand 01/11/2007 01:12 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 09:57 PST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously you are too young to remember the 1403 and 3215. Puh-leeze. I scoff in your general direction, Richard. I used to do Operator Duty on the 1403. (Now, where did I leave my coffee? I see we're splash out of paper. Oh, yes, now I remember where I left it...) :-) I was going on the rash assumption that David's printer wasn't so old as to require a physical carriage control (the thing the FCB replaced). If we're talking about emulated printers with built-in FCBs, then the DEFFCB option may suffice. The problem, of course, is that it is emulating a printer that an FCB to work. And CP knows that. Such is the reality of emulating old hardware. Maybe if it emulated a 1403... Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: START UR FCB Operand
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 01:05:52PM -0500, David L. Craig wrote: DEFFCB doesn't get around the problem. I just found the LOADBUF command writeup and I'm going to try telling it to use FCB1. I started with START cuu FCB FCB1 and that seemed to make it happy, but later a missing interrupt caused it to drain followed by an intervention required. The Barr channel server needed some care and when I was told it should be back in service, I did a LOADBUF cuu FCB FCB1 INDEX 01 NOFOLD (successfully) before I did the START. This time it seems to be working. What I don't understand is why ALL the printers on the channel server now show: NOFOLD IMAGE IMAG3211 CHARS A11 FCB FCB1 INDEX 1 LPP 066 when before IMAGE, CHARS, and FCB were blank. I didn't do anything with their FCBs and I don't think CP is smart enough to know they're all being serviced by the same box. (?) -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg
Re: PIPE, CMS kind of question.
Steve, We use LASTING GLOBALV with a DEFSTOR EXEC and our PROFILE EXECs. An extract of DEFSTOR has: Arg size CMDLINE 73 line(s) not displayed 'GLOBALV SELECT DEFSTOR SETLP CMDLINE' cmdline 'FINIS * * *' parse value diagrc(8,DEFINE STOR size 15x IPL system PARM , AUTOCR) with rc . the_rest /* Following line will only be executed if the above commands fail */ say the_rest Exit RC Then in the PROFILE EXEC: GLOBALV SELECT DEFSTOR GET CMDLINE if cmdline ^= then do GLOBALV SELECT DEFSTOR SETLP CMDLINE queue cmdline end exit 0 Therefore, you can do: DEFSTOR 50M srgmod Jim -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PIPE, CMS kind of question. I have an EXEC I want to run but I need to be sure the user has a certain amount of virtual storage before it can run. I can get this information with PIPE and a Q V STOR. If the storage is less than 50M then I want to increase the storage to 50M. Then I want the EXEC to continue on. Here is the code snippet. 'cp define stor 50m' || '15'x || 'I CMS' || '15'x || 'srgmod' mod_name The define stor works ok, the I CMS works ok but it won't run the srgmod EXEC (mod_name is an arg I supply) Is this because when the I CMS runs it clears storage, resets pointers or something? If so, is there a way I can accomplish this? Thanks, Steve G. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/
Re: IBM ServiceLink greenscreen to be discontinued March 31, 2007
Alan Ackerman wrote: I read somewhere that IBM is now making most of its money from services, rather than hardware of software. If IBMLink is an example of IBM service in action, I don't think I want to buy any services from IBM. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2006/pulpit_20060518_000897.html Tony H.
Re: IBM ServiceLink greenscreen to be discontinued March 31, 2007
Fascinating. snip http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2006/pulpit_20060518_000897.html Tony H. /snip
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 12:08 CST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any other suggestions? Continue your discussion with IBMLink folks. At least the two versions were side-by-side for seven years so that you could transition to the new one at your own pace. :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
History question.
Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
Re: History question.
Before that, there was CP-40. Look at Melinda Varian's History of VM. You can find it at http://www.princeton.edu/~melinda/ Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: History question. Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
On 1/11/07, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, that is a customer oriented answer. No, they do that internally too ;-) When Problem and Change Management was replaced by some new great Web application, it lacked the ability to search the database other than by record number, assignee or such. Not sure that got changed since the need for such a function was even questioned. Go figure if those folks make your applications. Rob
Re: History question.
Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? See Melinda Varian's VM: Past Present and Future paper for all the gory details from the IBM perspective. There were efforts at DEC with the PDP-8 OS-8 system to do some device virtualization, but not the true simulation of CP. Probably the next really serious virtual machine implementation was the p-System at UCSD.
Re: History question.
On Jan 11, 2007, at 4:37 PM, David Boyes wrote: Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? See Melinda Varian's VM: Past Present and Future paper for all the gory details from the IBM perspective. There were efforts at DEC with the PDP-8 OS-8 system to do some device virtualization, but not the true simulation of CP. Probably the next really serious virtual machine implementation was the p-System at UCSD. Interestingly, the first virtual machine implementation for microcomputers was *not* the p-System, but Infocom's Z-Machine, which they used to fit the Great Underground Empire into 48K. This is also how Infocom was able to support such a wide variety of systems in the magnificently diverse landscape that was the 8-bit mico era. zcode is still the native target of the Inform programming language, which is probably the most popular text adventure development platform extant. It has been extended with a virtual machine known as glulx, which is pretty much just like zcode but with the IO handed off to another layer (glk) and the 16-bitness removed, with the overall effect that you have 4G rather than 128K of memory to squeeze your game into. (later z-machine versions raised the bar to 256K (v5,6) during Infocom's lifetime, and the text adventure community has developed a z8 format allowing 512K (no one uses v7)) Adam
Re: History question.
On Jan 11, 2007, at 4:37 PM, David Boyes wrote: Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? See Melinda Varian's VM: Past Present and Future paper for all the gory details from the IBM perspective. There were efforts at DEC with the PDP-8 OS-8 system to do some device virtualization, but not the true simulation of CP. Probably the next really serious virtual machine implementation was the p-System at UCSD. Interestingly, the first virtual machine implementation for microcomputers was *not* the p-System, but Infocom's Z-Machine, which they used to fit the Great Underground Empire into 48K. zcode is still the native target of the Inform programming language, which is probably the most popular text adventure development platform extant. It has been extended with a virtual machine known as glulx, which is pretty much just like zcode but with the IO handed off to another layer (glk) and the 16-bitness removed, with the overall effect that you have 4G rather than 128K of memory to squeeze your game into. (later z-machine versions raised the bar to 512K (v5,6) during Infocom's lifetime, and the text adventure community has developed a z8 format
http://www.vm.ibm.com/
I cannot get to http://www.vm.ibm.com/. Can others? Does anyone remembe r the IP address for www.vm.ibm.com? I am getting: Gateway Timeout The following error occurred: [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request time d out during the lookup. Please contact the administrator This sounds like a DNS problem, but I don't know if it is at our end or not.
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
It works for me. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: http://www.vm.ibm.com/ I cannot get to http://www.vm.ibm.com/. Can others? Does anyone remembe= r the IP address for www.vm.ibm.com? I am getting: Gateway Timeout The following error occurred: [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request time= d out during the lookup. Please contact the administrator This sounds like a DNS problem, but I don't know if it is at our end or = not.
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
I can get to it today, but couldn't yesterday. Keep trying It's probably in cahoots with IBMLINK to give you a migrane :-) Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support Information Technology Services Americas Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANKOFAMERICA.COM To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject ARK.EDU http://www.vm.ibm.com/ 01/11/2007 04:16 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU I cannot get to http://www.vm.ibm.com/. Can others? Does anyone remember the IP address for www.vm.ibm.com? I am getting: Gateway Timeout The following error occurred: [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request timed out during the lookup. Please contact the administrator This sounds like a DNS problem, but I don't know if it is at our end or not.
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
but not for me... --- Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works for me. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: http://www.vm.ibm.com/ I cannot get to http://www.vm.ibm.com/. Can others? Does anyone remembe= r the IP address for www.vm.ibm.com? I am getting: Gateway Timeout The following error occurred: [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request time= d out during the lookup. Please contact the administrator This sounds like a DNS problem, but I don't know if it is at our end or = not. Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
Can't get to it. DNS works, but the site appears to be down. John P Baker -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: http://www.vm.ibm.com/ I cannot get to http://www.vm.ibm.com/. Can others? Does anyone remembe r the IP address for www.vm.ibm.com? I am getting: Gateway Timeout The following error occurred: [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request time d out during the lookup. Please contact the administrator This sounds like a DNS problem, but I don't know if it is at our end or not.
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
On 1/12/07, Don Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like this happened a few months ago (or was it years? It's all becoming a big blur) because the site moved to a new address and it took a while for the DNS records to get updateda work around, until DNS changes were fully propagated, was to put a redirect on the old site From what I can see here, they removed one authorative name server but some zone's still list it as such. I'm not sure how DNS resolvers are supposed to handle that. Apart from that, the path to 204.146.134.18 dies somewhere inside ATT. And I'm not sure the web server would allow you to address it by number. Rob
Re: History question.
In the late 60's and early 70's I was a fairly junior IBM systems engineer in Chicago. I scrounged a lot of machine time to prepare for a benchmark and demo for a customer. One IBM site I found time at was in Des Plaines, IL, just NW of O'Hare field. I used a 360/40 that had an extra toggle switch on the front panel. It was labelled virtual and real. That was the test bed for CP/40. It was at least 10-15 years before I knew what that meant and the fact that I was using a museum piece. I think that when this came up a year or two ago, someone told me and I think that it was Steve Gentry from Lafayette Life, that that particular 360/40 was the only one. An interesting side on that demo (at least for me) was that the customer was a Honeywell user. Naturally the customer's programs that I was demonstrating were heavily tape. During the demo, the takeup reel and hub on the 240x tape drive completely fell off the drive and dropped down into the vacuum tube. We didn't get the sale that time. Jim Schuh, Richard wrote: Before that, there was CP-40. Look at Melinda Varian's History of VM. You can find it at http://www.princeton.edu/~melinda/ Regards,=20 Richard Schuh=20 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: History question. Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first virtualization engine ever produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM did it? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.=20 -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
I have tried a search from the IBM main web page for www.vm.ibm.com to see what I got. Any hits I got I could not connect to any of the urls listed. Examples: http://www.vm.ibm.com/news/webstuff.html www.vm.ibm.com/ebusiness/ Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/ On 1/12/07, Don Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like this happened a few months ago (or was it years? It's all becoming a big blur) because the site moved to a new address and it took a while for the DNS records to get updateda work around, until DNS changes were fully propagated, was to put a redirect on the old site From what I can see here, they removed one authorative name server but some zone's still list it as such. I'm not sure how DNS resolvers are supposed to handle that. Apart from that, the path to 204.146.134.18 dies somewhere inside ATT. And I'm not sure the web server would allow you to address it by number. Rob
Re: http://www.vm.ibm.com/
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:47:42 +0100, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/12/07, Don Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like this happened a few months ago (or was it years? It's a ll becoming a big blur) because the site moved to a new address and it to ok a while for the DNS records to get updateda work around, until DNS changes were fully propagated, was to put a redirect on the old site From what I can see here, they removed one authorative name server but some zone's still list it as such. I'm not sure how DNS resolvers are supposed to handle that. Apart from that, the path to 204.146.134.18 dies somewhere inside ATT. And I'm not sure the web server would allow you to address it by number. Rob = == == http://204.146.134.18/ did not work from the Bank, either. Same results from my Mac at home. Neither http://www.vm.ibm.com/ nor http :// 204.146.134.18/ work. Traceroute shows, as Rob said, it dying somewhere i nside ATT -- specifically: ar1-p3110.srcny.ip.att.net (12.123.192.198) 97.955 ms 113.290 ms 113.0 96 ms Unless IBM recently changed the IP address, I would guess that this is no t a DNS issue. Traceroute -n 204.146.134.18 died at the same IP address. Option -n means not to use the DNS.
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:18:40 -0500, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 12:08 CST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any other suggestions? Continue your discussion with IBMLink folks. At least the two versions were side-by-side for seven years so that you could transition to the new one at your own pace. :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott = == == Touche' Several people in our shop converted over, and gave them much feedback. I ronically, the chief booster of IBMLink 2000 here, Vito D'Addabbo, just had his retirement lu nch today. It's us young folks that stuck to green screen. I gave them a lot of feedback early on. Never got any response. They did fix some of the bugs I reported. I'm afraid I lost interest. I checked in once in a while but fo und no reason to move off green screen. I didn't notice the lack of ESO information, but I did noti ce that there was no Q (print all) function. I was hoping I wouldn't have to convert. Silly of me to expect them to co me to their senses.
Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 10:21 CST, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hoping I wouldn't have to convert. Silly of me to expect them to come to their senses. Everyone else gets to webify their legacy apps, so why not IBM? We have internal app development shops that are looking for ways to cut support development costs, too. And those new hires out of college are certainly not very good at 3270 programming, you know ;-) That the 3270 interface on IBMLink remained for 7 years (long past the original sunset schedules) is a testimonial to the IBMLink team's committment to you. They fought to keep it. Quite reasonably, TPTB don't like redundant investments and I was gratified by their ability to keep both interfaces running for so long. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
