Re: Best method
What if someone sends a vicious PROFILE EXEC to your server? you should check who sent something before blindly receiving it. Or check what was sent and only receive The do-loop checking rdr files can be made much simpler too: Check_Receive: 'EXECIO * CP (STEM AA. Q RDR * ALL NOHOLD' do i=2 to aa.0 parse var aa.i sender filenum if wordpos(sender,validsenders)=0 then 'CP CH R' filenum 'HOLD' else do 'EXEC RECEIVE 'EXEC FT22POW ... 'ERASE ... end end And, as Rob points out: this do-loop handles all RDR files, no need for the +2 in WAKEUP. 2008/7/2 Wakser, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks, Cal. Others have already suggested that. But it is really overkill. > My entire EXEC consists of the following. And we have tested it thoroughly > today, and it seems to do exactly what we want. The "+2" is only because > files will not be coming in very often, but when they do we want to process > them quickly. The CHECK_OUT_FILE paragraph is only to retrieve the incoming > rdr file number, file name, and file type for subsequent commands. The > FTP2POW program does some manipulation and FTPs some files from VM to VSE. > > David Wakser > > > /* */ > do forever > "WAKEUP +2 (RDR IUCVMSG QUIET" /* Check for files every 2 minutes */ >saverc = rc >select > when saverc = 4 then /* we received a RDR file */ > do > call CHECK_OUT_FILE > if flag = "Z" then /* If it is a valid file ... */ > do > "RECEIVE" filenum "(REP KEEPCC" > "EXEC FTP2POW" fn ft "A" > "ERASE" fn ft "A" > end > end /* end of DO for saverc = 4 */ > otherwise nop > end /* end of SELECT */ > end > > exit > > CHECK_OUT_FILE: > > "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" > flag = "X" /* set flag for exiting loop */ > i = 1/* point to first record */ > > do while flag = "X" /* see if there is a file to process */ > parse var aa.i w1 filenum w3 w4 w5 w6 disp w8 w9 fn ft w12 . > if (w1 = "NO" & filenum = "RDR" & w3 = "FILES" ) | w1 = "" then return > else if w1 = "ORIGINID" & filenum = "FILE" then /* if HEADER line */ > i = i + 1 /* get next rec */ > else if disp ¬= "NONE" then /* if held file */ > i = i + 1 /* get next rec */ > else flag = "Z" > end /* end of DO when flag = "X" */ > > return > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Cal Fisher > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:55 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Hi David > Go to the VM download site http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ and get the > vmserve package. It uses wakeup and will do just about anything you will ever > want your service machine to do. I have used this for years and I am very > happy with it. > > Cal Fisher > My tour in the Navy > The MVMUA website > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: FLASHCOPY Challenges/Questions Getting HCPCMM296E
Hi: The AE and AF codes indicate to me that likely there is an already in play flash going on. Try waiting a while and trying again. You can have up to 12 targets on a single flashcopy commands. X'AE' Command cannot complete because the target of the new FLASHCOPY is already a target for an existing FLASHCOPY. Any single track may have only one source at a time. If a previous FLASHCOPY is still completing in the background, and its target extents overlap with the target extents of the current FLASHCOPY, this error condition will result. X'AF' Command cannot complete because the target of the new FLASHCOPY is already a source for an existing FLASHCOPY. Any single track may not be both a source and a target track, and a target track may have only one source at a time. If a previous FLASHCOPY is still completing in the background, and its source extents overlap with the target extents of the current FLASHCOPY, this error condition will result. David Kreuter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Don W. Sent: Tue 7/1/2008 8:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] FLASHCOPY Challenges/Questions Getting HCPCMM296E I am trying to flashcopy a single source volume to multiple target volume= s in an EXEC. The first two FLASHCOPY commands appear to work. However the volumes following that get the following error message: >>> "CP FLASHCOPY 7000 0 3338 TO 704B 0 3338" = HCPCMM296E Status is not as required - 7000; an unexpected condition HCPCMM296E occurred while executing a FLASHCOPY command, code = AF. +++ RC(296) +++ = = >>> "CP FLASHCOPY 7000 0 3338 TO 704C 0 3338" = HCPCMM296E Status is not as required - 7000; an unexpected condition HCPCMM296E occurred while executing a FLASHCOPY command, code = AE. = +++ RC(296) +++ Is there a limit on how many copies with a single source I can do at once= ? Also, is there a way to tell the status of the background activities an= d when they are complete? These volumes were the secondary part of a PPR= C pair. I have run the ICKDSF SEVER process to sever the connection. They n= o longer should be used as the targets for PPRC. Is that having an effect? = The result of a ICKDSF PPRC QUERY is: 0 PPRC QUERY UNIT(704B) = = -ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 704B IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:= - PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 = = - STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990= = - STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9 = - DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A = = - ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001B35 = - TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339= 0ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE= = ICK00091I 704B NED=002105.000.IBM.13.00025612 = 0 QUERY REMOTE COPY - VOLUME = (PRIMARY)(SECONDARY)= SSIDCCA SSIDCCA= DEVICE LEVEL STATE PATH STATUS SER # LSS SER # LSS= 0-- - -- --- --- ---= 704BN/ASIMPLEX N/A 70004B .. = 25612 00 ... .. = 0= = = -ICK02206I PPRCOPY QUERY FUNCTION COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY = The first two volumes that worked are the same so I don't know what is causing the problem on the third and succeeding volumes. Thanks for any help.
Re: RACF and MAINT
Leland--No, you don't assign MAINT to the $SYSTEMS group, altho you
could. You DEFINE MAINT and other id's that you might need to have
logonby access to the SURROGAT class as LOGONBY.MAINT and then PERMIT
the id to be logoned by $CLASS. Sorry, my RACF terminology isn't
right. I can never remember the command to do that, so here is a little
exec that you just need to fill in the blank.
/* Define a surrogat profile */
/* rac rlist surrogat logonby.wsa1 all */
parse upper arg shared_id
if shared_id = '' then do
say 'You must enter the id of the machine you are setting up as a'
say 'shared userid.'
exit
end
'EXEC RAC RDEFINE SURROGAT LOGONBY.'shared_id 'UACC(NONE)'
say 'The exec to permit surrogate access is RACLGPRM shared_id surrogate'
exit
Then you PERMIT the userid or class, i.e.$SYSTEMS with this:
/* Permit an id to share an id
*/
/* rac rlist surrogat logonby.wsa1 all
*/
parse upper arg shared_id
logon_by_id
if logond_by_id = '' then
do
say 'You must enter both the shared_id and the
logon_by_id'
exit
end
'EXEC RAC PERMIT LOGONBY.'shared_id 'CLASS(SURROGAT) ID('logon_by_id')
ACCESS(READ)'
'EXEC RAC SETROPTS RACLIST(SURROGAT)
REFRESH'
exit
I set up all the systems type of id's this way. This morning, I needed
to restart SMTP and rather than using the SMSG command interface, I
wanted to watch the console when it came up, I used:
l smtp logonby /my_personel_id /
I was logged onto SMTP using my own personal id's password. It's logged
as SMTP having been logged on by me.
Jim
Leland wrote:
Quoting Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Leland--In addition to the following suggestions to use logonby is that
some time ago, auditors dinged us (them--it was before I arrived on the
scene) because the MAINT and other privileged userids had shared
passwords. Auditors don't like that. Connect your system programmer
type people to a $SYSTEMS group or something like that and PERMIT the
$SYSTEMS group to logonby to MAINT and other id's that you would want
them to share.
It will only be two of us, but if I'm understanding correctly, assigning any
other users besides MAINT to the $SYSTEMS group would automagically give us two
LOGONBY auth for those users as well. That sounds keen to me.
Thanks,
Leland
--
Jim Bohnsack
Cornell University
(607) 255-1760
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
FLASHCOPY Challenges/Questions Getting HCPCMM296E
I am trying to flashcopy a single source volume to multiple target volume s in an EXEC. The first two FLASHCOPY commands appear to work. However the volumes following that get the following error message: >>> "CP FLASHCOPY 7000 0 3338 TO 704B 0 3338" HCPCMM296E Status is not as required - 7000; an unexpected condition HCPCMM296E occurred while executing a FLASHCOPY command, code = AF. +++ RC(296) +++ >>> "CP FLASHCOPY 7000 0 3338 TO 704C 0 3338" HCPCMM296E Status is not as required - 7000; an unexpected condition HCPCMM296E occurred while executing a FLASHCOPY command, code = AE. +++ RC(296) +++ Is there a limit on how many copies with a single source I can do at once ? Also, is there a way to tell the status of the background activities an d when they are complete? These volumes were the secondary part of a PPR C pair. I have run the ICKDSF SEVER process to sever the connection. They n o longer should be used as the targets for PPRC. Is that having an effect? The result of a ICKDSF PPRC QUERY is: 0 PPRC QUERY UNIT(704B) -ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 704B IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS: - PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 - STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990 - STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9 - DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A - ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001B35 - TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339 0ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE ICK00091I 704B NED=002105.000.IBM.13.00025612 0 QUERY REMOTE COPY - VOLUME (PRIMARY)(SECONDARY) SSIDCCA SSIDCCA DEVICE LEVEL STATE PATH STATUS SER # LSS SER # LSS 0-- - -- --- --- --- 704BN/ASIMPLEX N/A 70004B .. 25612 00 ... .. 0 -ICK02206I PPRCOPY QUERY FUNCTION COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY The first two volumes that worked are the same so I don't know what is causing the problem on the third and succeeding volumes. Thanks for any help.
Re: RACF and MAINT
Got it. Thanks. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:13 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT > > On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 06:22 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I see. The way we use VM:Secure, nopass is granted through > the rules > > facility, so the ESM does handle the requests to XAUTOLOG a user. > > Since the requesting user's logon was authenticated by the ESM and > > there is a permitting rule that is also enforced by the > ESM, is that > > authorization, authentication, or perhaps half-authentication? In > > other words, does having to get past the ESM alter the status? > > The ESM is being called to authorize you for an XAUTOLOG > command that does not require authentication. When a rule > (policy) is applied to a subject > (user) or object (resource) or their interaction, that is > authorization. > Authentication requires one or more of: > - a secret that only you know (password) > - a widget that only you posess (RSA key id or private key) > - a biological feature that is unique to you (fingerprint, > retina pattern, voiceprint, DNA scan, brain wave patterns, ...) > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 06:22 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see. The way we use VM:Secure, nopass is granted through the rules > facility, so the ESM does handle the requests to XAUTOLOG a user. Since > the requesting user's logon was authenticated by the ESM and there is a > permitting rule that is also enforced by the ESM, is that authorization, > authentication, or perhaps half-authentication? In other words, does > having to get past the ESM alter the status? The ESM is being called to authorize you for an XAUTOLOG command that does not require authentication. When a rule (policy) is applied to a subject (user) or object (resource) or their interaction, that is authorization. Authentication requires one or more of: - a secret that only you know (password) - a widget that only you posess (RSA key id or private key) - a biological feature that is unique to you (fingerprint, retina pattern, voiceprint, DNA scan, brain wave patterns, ...) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: RACF and MAINT
I see. The way we use VM:Secure, nopass is granted through the rules facility, so the ESM does handle the requests to XAUTOLOG a user. Since the requesting user's logon was authenticated by the ESM and there is a permitting rule that is also enforced by the ESM, is that authorization, authentication, or perhaps half-authentication? In other words, does having to get past the ESM alter the status? Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:58 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT > > On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 04:56 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > "IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count." > > > > Has your humble opinion changed? Or exactly what did you > mean? Perhaps > > that if authentication requires no password, it should not > reset the > > count? > > No, my opinion has not changed. If there is no password then > there is no authentication, there is only authorization. QED. > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >
Re: RACF and MAINT
Quoting Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, I got it now. I'll pass on your explanation to our RACF goddess. > She'll > > probably be wondering why I was asking y'all and not her anyway. :-) > > Did you not get a "we don't have that on MVS so you don't need it on VM" ;-) > Or did they finally get logonby on MVS as well? > Nope, she did it right away and was very pleased with the results. She did ask when RACF was being enabled on the other LPARs though. :-) Leland
Re: Best method
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Wakser, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "WAKEUP +2 (RDR IUCVMSG QUIET" /* Check for files every 2 minutes */ For what I understand of WAKEUP, this is still overkill. If you just want to wait for RDR files, you don't need to wakeup each time to check. When a RDR file arrives you will wake up immediately. As long as you initialize WAKEUP properly and don't reset it, you should not even lose RDR file triggers (so WAKEUP will return immediately when there's another interrupt waiting). The mix of time and event is for when you *also* need to do things based on time schedule (eg close spool files every hour or so). -Rob (and I apologize for distracting the thread earlier)
Re: Best method
Thanks, Cal. Others have already suggested that. But it is really overkill. My entire EXEC consists of the following. And we have tested it thoroughly today, and it seems to do exactly what we want. The "+2" is only because files will not be coming in very often, but when they do we want to process them quickly. The CHECK_OUT_FILE paragraph is only to retrieve the incoming rdr file number, file name, and file type for subsequent commands. The FTP2POW program does some manipulation and FTPs some files from VM to VSE. David Wakser /* */ do forever "WAKEUP +2 (RDR IUCVMSG QUIET" /* Check for files every 2 minutes */ saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then /* we received a RDR file */ do call CHECK_OUT_FILE if flag = "Z" then /* If it is a valid file ... */ do "RECEIVE" filenum "(REP KEEPCC" "EXEC FTP2POW" fn ft "A" "ERASE" fn ft "A" end end /* end of DO for saverc = 4 */ otherwise nop end /* end of SELECT */ end exit CHECK_OUT_FILE: "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" flag = "X" /* set flag for exiting loop */ i = 1/* point to first record */ do while flag = "X" /* see if there is a file to process */ parse var aa.i w1 filenum w3 w4 w5 w6 disp w8 w9 fn ft w12 . if (w1 = "NO" & filenum = "RDR" & w3 = "FILES" ) | w1 = "" then return else if w1 = "ORIGINID" & filenum = "FILE" then /* if HEADER line */ i = i + 1 /* get next rec */ else if disp ¬= "NONE" then /* if held file */ i = i + 1 /* get next rec */ else flag = "Z" end /* end of DO when flag = "X" */ return -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Fisher Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Hi David Go to the VM download site http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ and get the vmserve package. It uses wakeup and will do just about anything you will ever want your service machine to do. I have used this for years and I am very happy with it. Cal Fisher My tour in the Navy The MVMUA website
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, I got it now. I'll pass on your explanation to our RACF goddess. She'll > probably be wondering why I was asking y'all and not her anyway. :-) Did you not get a "we don't have that on MVS so you don't need it on VM" ;-) Or did they finally get logonby on MVS as well? It's certainly a pity that you RACF does not let you stretch things the other way around. In a former life I did hack some 3rd party checks that would grant permission to support teams for a password reset of a user, based on their access to a RESETPW. profile (where was one of the groups of the target user). I could imagine a LOGONBY.SERVERS profile to grant logonby to all service machines in the SERVERS group. The bad part of it was that we needed to check multiple profiles before we could decide. That's kind of unlike RACF. Not sure anymore why we could not use the default group of the user. -Rob
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 04:56 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count." > > Has your humble opinion changed? Or exactly what did you mean? Perhaps > that if authentication requires no password, it should not reset the > count? No, my opinion has not changed. If there is no password then there is no authentication, there is only authorization. QED. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Best method
Hi David Go to the VM download site http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/ and get the vmserve package. It uses wakeup and will do just about anything you will ever want your service machine to do. I have used this for years and I am very happy with it. Cal Fisher My tour in the Navy The MVMUA website
Re: Best method
Got ya! That's correct. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McBride, Catherine Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Yes, you did (bless you!) I should have said, 'intervened in any official capacity'. Kind regards, McB -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Cathy: I absolutely did say something at the time!
Re: Best method
Yes, you did (bless you!) I should have said, 'intervened in any official capacity'. Kind regards, McB -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Cathy: I absolutely did say something at the time!
Re: Best method
Cathy: I absolutely did say something at the time! I commented that it was rude to criticize the code of someone who was helpful enough to present a working example. Perhaps you missed that one! David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McBride, Catherine Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Lambasting another person's code when they were simply trying to help by sharing it didn't seem too relevant to the stated topic either, yet no one intervened THEN. This tells me we tolerate blatant rudeness, but not humor interjected to defuse tension caused by the rudeness. Guess it's all a matter of what our values are. The humor did get a bit over the top. But not nearly to the degree that good manners were disregarded. Cathy McBride Manager, Z-Series, I-Series, P-Series Support Kable News Company, Inc -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel P. Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method See, folks, this is the part where I come across like I'm all humor-deficient... I'm pretty sure that piercings and belly-button lint aren't terribly relevant to the stated topic of the list. It's all about the signal-to-noise ratio, kids. Please resist the urge to push this one back up the hill again. Your humble moderator, -dan.
Re: Best method
Lambasting another person's code when they were simply trying to help by sharing it didn't seem too relevant to the stated topic either, yet no one intervened THEN. This tells me we tolerate blatant rudeness, but not humor interjected to defuse tension caused by the rudeness. Guess it's all a matter of what our values are. The humor did get a bit over the top. But not nearly to the degree that good manners were disregarded. Cathy McBride Manager, Z-Series, I-Series, P-Series Support Kable News Company, Inc -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel P. Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method See, folks, this is the part where I come across like I'm all humor-deficient... I'm pretty sure that piercings and belly-button lint aren't terribly relevant to the stated topic of the list. It's all about the signal-to-noise ratio, kids. Please resist the urge to push this one back up the hill again. Your humble moderator, -dan.
Re: RACF and MAINT
Quoting Mike Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No, that's backwards. You permit the $SYSTEMS group to the logonby.maint > resource, then users who have a connect to that group automatically have > the ability to use logonby to the maint id. You would need to define the > resource and do the permit for any other shared id for which you wanted to > do logonby. I think you could use a RACFVARS profile if you wanted to act > on a group of userids. See the Security Admin's manual. > In the simple case, though: > 1. ADDGROUP $SYSTEMS OWNER(SYS1) > 2. CONNECT USER1 GROUP($SYSTEMS) > 3. CONNECT USER2 GROUP($SYSTEMS) > ... > 4. RDEF SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT UACC(NONE)... > 5. PERMIT LOGONBY.MAINT CLASS(SURROGAT) ACCESS(READ) ID($SYSTEMS) > > Now as your systems group membership fluctuates, you connect new members > to the $systems group and remove departing ones. But per this example > you'd have to repeat the RDEF/PERMIT for other service/maintenance > userids. > --Mike > Ah, I got it now. I'll pass on your explanation to our RACF goddess. She'll probably be wondering why I was asking y'all and not her anyway. :-) Thanks again, Leland
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 03:57 EDT, Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will only be two of us, but if I'm understanding correctly, assigning any > other users besides MAINT to the $SYSTEMS group would automagically give us two > LOGONBY auth for those users as well. That sounds keen to me. In general, any authorization that applies to a user also applies to a group of users. As users join or leave the group, their privileges are adjusted automatically. (This is RACF's role-based authorization mechansism.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: RACF and MAINT
No, that's backwards. You permit the $SYSTEMS group to the logonby.maint resource, then users who have a connect to that group automatically have the ability to use logonby to the maint id. You would need to define the resource and do the permit for any other shared id for which you wanted to do logonby. I think you could use a RACFVARS profile if you wanted to act on a group of userids. See the Security Admin's manual. In the simple case, though: 1. ADDGROUP $SYSTEMS OWNER(SYS1) 2. CONNECT USER1 GROUP($SYSTEMS) 3. CONNECT USER2 GROUP($SYSTEMS) ... 4. RDEF SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT UACC(NONE)... 5. PERMIT LOGONBY.MAINT CLASS(SURROGAT) ACCESS(READ) ID($SYSTEMS) Now as your systems group membership fluctuates, you connect new members to the $systems group and remove departing ones. But per this example you'd have to repeat the RDEF/PERMIT for other service/maintenance userids. --Mike It will only be two of us, but if I'm understanding correctly, assigning any other users besides MAINT to the $SYSTEMS group would automagically give us two LOGONBY auth for those users as well. That sounds keen to me. Thanks, Leland
Re: Best method
> Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does your's do for > you? :-) That is way, *way* too much information.
Re: RACF and MAINT
"IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count." Has your humble opinion changed? Or exactly what did you mean? Perhaps that if authentication requires no password, it should not reset the count? Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:48 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT > > On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 04:41 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > What about Class G AUTOLOG that requires a password? > > What about it? The autolog is preceded by an authentication. > If correct, > the counts would be reset. So it's the authentication that would be > resetting it, not the autologging. > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >
Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
Franz your procedures worked! We are now IPLed off a different Res pack, spool and page pack. Thank you very much for your help. David Juárez CDC eServer Systems Support (310B) IT Specialist - Systems Programmer 512-326-6116 Work -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack David, it's easier than you might think. I have done it several times with this procedure in user maint 1. attach new volumes to maint 2. copy all 530res, (if mod 3 530w01,530w02), 530pag and 530spl to new volumes with DDR. You can of course also restore them from a backup. 3. CPFMTXA device-of-530res 530rs1 LABEL (530rs1 is the new label of the new 530res disk), analog for all other volumes 4. Q MDISK 191 LOC This shows the location of the maint 191 on 530res. 5. DEF MDISK 111 startcyl-of-step4 size-of-step-4 530rs1 (The MAINT user must have OPTION DEVMAINT in user direct when using this command.) AC 111 T X USER DIRECT T C /530RES/530RS1/** (or whatever new label you have set in step3), analog for all other volumes save the changes DIRECTXA USER DIRECT T (The DIRECTORY statement in the new USER DIRECT must point also to the new res. Because it is not the active res it is only updated on disk, not made online) 6. Q MDISK CF1 LOC 7. DEF MDISK 111 startcyl-of-step6 size-of-step-6 530rs1 AC 111 T X SYSTEM CONFIG T C /530RES/530RS1/** (or whatever new label you have set in step3), analog for all other volumes eventually changes of the consoles, but this can also be overwritten with the standalone loader eventually changes of user_volume_include list etc. This depends if you want to start the new vm in 2nd level or lpar. In 2nd level the system sees only the volumes which you define to the user, in lpar it sees all the volumes it is allowed to by iocds. save the changes 8. ready to take IPL. You must do a FORCE start at first IPL Hope this helps. kind regards Franz Josef Pohlen Juarez, David T. schrieb: > > We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES > and spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have > simple procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes > so we can IPL off the alternates and leave the original res and spool > untouched. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service shows how > to backup the Res and saved system and segments but the SPXTAPE > utility implies you want to restore to the current spool volume not an > alternate. Also is anyone using symbolics in system config and/or the > user directory like we do in z/OS parmlib? Thanks. > > > > David T. Juárez > > Department of Veterans Affairs > > IT Specialist > > >
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 04:41 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about Class G AUTOLOG that requires a password? What about it? The autolog is preceded by an authentication. If correct, the counts would be reset. So it's the authentication that would be resetting it, not the autologging. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: RACF and MAINT
What about Class G AUTOLOG that requires a password? Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT > > > IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count. >
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 01:59 EDT, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We never had MAINT being revoked due too invalid logon attempts, maybe > the nightly XAUTOLOG resets the invalid pswd count too. IMO, autologging a user should not reset the password count. Inactivity timer, yes. Bad password count, no. Only a successful authentication, a RESUME or ALTUSER NOPASSWORD should reset the invalid password count. OTOH, it's been that way for decades and it hasn't been a cause for alarm. ... Or maybe it has, but you just didn't know it... bwahahahaha!! Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Best method
It all depends on what you want to do. In some cases you may not want to wait forever for a file that may never arrive. So you put the timer in. If on the other hand the vm is totally driven by the arrival of a RDR file, then there would be no reason to have a timer value. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method And if you leave that RDR file in the queue without holding it, it will give you another interrupt immediately. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:40 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go > recheck the RDR every so often. > > > > With WAKEUP (RDR, there is no need to add a timer interrupt too. > WAKEUP will present RC=4 when a RDR file is available. > > -- > Kris Buelens, > IBM Belgium, VM customer support > P.S. today at 16h15 I shut down my customer's last 2 VM > systems and waived goodbye to the people I worked with the > last years. For those who understand some French: for most > of them it propably was an "a Dieu", no an "au revoir". >
Re: Best method
See, folks, this is the part where I come across like I'm all humor-deficient... I'm pretty sure that piercings and belly-button lint aren't terribly relevant to the stated topic of the list. It's all about the signal-to-noise ratio, kids. Please resist the urge to push this one back up the hill again. Your humble moderator, -dan.
Re: Best method
And if you leave that RDR file in the queue without holding it, it will give you another interrupt immediately. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:40 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go > recheck the RDR every so often. > > > > With WAKEUP (RDR, there is no need to add a timer interrupt too. > WAKEUP will present RC=4 when a RDR file is available. > > -- > Kris Buelens, > IBM Belgium, VM customer support > P.S. today at 16h15 I shut down my customer's last 2 VM > systems and waived goodbye to the people I worked with the > last years. For those who understand some French: for most > of them it propably was an "a Dieu", no an "au revoir". >
Re: Best method
I know a girl that has a diamond in hers she always shows it at the beach. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely not! My wife simply forbids it, even at the beach:-) Schuh, Richard wrote: > Dave, > > Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do. You probably still > do not go around showing it off, do you? > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > >> >> Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does >> your's do for you? :-) >> >> Happy Forth of July, too, and Canada Day as well. >> >> >> >> Rich Smrcina wrote: >>> And definitely not at SHARE! :) >>> >>> Rob van der Heij wrote: My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) >>> >> -- >> DJ >> >> V/Soft >>z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, >>consulting, and software development >> www.vsoft-software.com >> -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
Re: Best method
Absolutely not! My wife simply forbids it, even at the beach:-) Schuh, Richard wrote: Dave, Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do. You probably still do not go around showing it off, do you? Regards, Richard Schuh Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does your's do for you? :-) Happy Forth of July, too, and Canada Day as well. Rich Smrcina wrote: And definitely not at SHARE! :) Rob van der Heij wrote: My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
Re: RACF and MAINT
Quoting Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Leland--In addition to the following suggestions to use logonby is that > some time ago, auditors dinged us (them--it was before I arrived on the > scene) because the MAINT and other privileged userids had shared > passwords. Auditors don't like that. Connect your system programmer > type people to a $SYSTEMS group or something like that and PERMIT the > $SYSTEMS group to logonby to MAINT and other id's that you would want > them to share. It will only be two of us, but if I'm understanding correctly, assigning any other users besides MAINT to the $SYSTEMS group would automagically give us two LOGONBY auth for those users as well. That sounds keen to me. Thanks, Leland
Re: RACF and MAINT
Leland--In addition to the following suggestions to use logonby is that some time ago, auditors dinged us (them--it was before I arrived on the scene) because the MAINT and other privileged userids had shared passwords. Auditors don't like that. Connect your system programmer type people to a $SYSTEMS group or something like that and PERMIT the $SYSTEMS group to logonby to MAINT and other id's that you would want them to share. Jim Leland Lucius wrote: Being new to this RACF on VM thing, I'm a little paranoid about how the MAINT user should be handled in relation to things like password policies. Mind you, we don't use MAINT all that often, but I'd hate to get myself in a position where I needed it and was unable to use it because the password was revoked or something similar. How do y'all handle MAINT with RACF. Is it really a major concern or am I just being a fraidy cat? Leland -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best method
2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go recheck the RDR > every so often. > With WAKEUP (RDR, there is no need to add a timer interrupt too. WAKEUP will present RC=4 when a RDR file is available. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support P.S. today at 16h15 I shut down my customer's last 2 VM systems and waived goodbye to the people I worked with the last years. For those who understand some French: for most of them it propably was an "a Dieu", no an "au revoir".
Re: RACF and MAINT
This was all good stuff and to summarize... We remove the password from MAINT using NOPASSWORD and we give us special people LOGONBY. Don't know if we'll worry about the inactivity issue jus t yet, but we'll see. Thanks a heap all, Leland
Re: Best method
Dave, Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do. You probably still do not go around showing it off, do you? Regards, Richard Schuh > > > Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does > your's do for you? :-) > > Happy Forth of July, too, and Canada Day as well. > > > > Rich Smrcina wrote: > > And definitely not at SHARE! :) > > > > Rob van der Heij wrote: > >> My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to > >> others ;-) > >> > > > > > > -- > DJ > > V/Soft >z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, >consulting, and software development > www.vsoft-software.com >
Re: Best method
And to further muddy the waters here a bit, there is the RXWAIT package, available here: http://uvvm.uvic.ca/~freeware/ can do what WAKEUP does and much more as well. Both excellent documentation and the source code is provided. I can, however, understand David's desire to use only plain vanilla tools, that are guaranteed to be available on any z/VM system. Makes installing and running his tool on multiple systems easier. Rob, all my belly button does is collect lintwhat does your's do for you? :-) Happy Forth of July, too, and Canada Day as well. Rich Smrcina wrote: And definitely not at SHARE! :) Rob van der Heij wrote: My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
Re: Best method
That's one reason why we put a timer in WAKEUP so we can go recheck the RDR every so often. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not pretty, but it has worked for a very long time. Sort of like an old > horse she may not look like much, but she still plows the field. My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) I would obviously go for the Pipes version and avoid the mentioned risk of missing files while you were not looking. -Rob
Re: RACF and MAINT
We never had MAINT being revoked due too invalid logon attempts, maybe the nightly XAUTOLOG resets the invalid pswd count too. 2008/7/1 Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 12:29 EDT, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Use'd define MAINT as a logonby user > > RAC RDEFINE SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT > > RAC PERMIT MAINT.LOGONBY CLASS(SURROGAT) ID( > > to define which users/groups can issue > >LOGON MAINT BY xxx and give the pwsd of xxx > > > > As to avoid RACF revoking users due to inactivity: XAUTOLOG them every > now and > > then. > > As of z/VM 5.3, you can now remove a user's password entirely (ALTUSER > NOPASSWORD). This prevents revocation due to invalid password attempts. > Preventing revocation due to inactivity is known in RACF terms as a > "protected" user, support that is in z/OS, but not yet in z/VM. > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Best method
And definitely not at SHARE! :) Rob van der Heij wrote: My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009
Re: Best method
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not pretty, but it has worked for a very long time. Sort of like an old > horse she may not look like much, but she still plows the field. My belly button does what I need it to do, but I don't show it to others ;-) I would obviously go for the Pipes version and avoid the mentioned risk of missing files while you were not looking. -Rob
Re: Best method
Looks okay to me. I have a lot of stuff like that. It's a tool, not a piece of art! On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not pretty, but it has worked for a very long time. Sort of like an old > horse she may not look like much, but she still plows the field. > > -Original Message- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of *Kris Buelens > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:59 AM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* Re: Best method > > Ugh, such ugly code. Have a look at the TCVM1 package to learn some REXX > coding techniques. It is an HTML selfstudy. > > 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Not many comments to explain the code but here is an example. >> >> WAKEUP RESET >> CP SET IMSG IUCV >> CP SET MSG IUCV >> . >> . >> . >> . >> . >> >> DATEOK: >> FLDATE = RIGHT(DATE(S,TDATE,U),6) >> SET CMSTYPE HT >> TELL OPERATOR AT NODEID GET LOG FLDATE >> WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (IUCVMSG' >> IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 >> PULL RESPONSE >> PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . >> IF FIND(RESPONSE,'DMSDSK002E') ¬=0 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT1 >> WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (RDR ' >> IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 >> DO FOREVER >> SPNO = FIND(RESPONSE,'RDR FILE') >> IF SPNO ¬= 0 THEN DO >> SPNO = SPNO + 2 >> SIGNAL PEEKIT >> END >> WAKEUP '+00:00:10 (IUCVMSG' >> IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 >> PULL RESPONSE >> PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . >>END >> PEEKIT: >> DESBUF >> SPNO = WORD(RESPONSE,SPNO) >> QUEUE COMMAND SET RESERVED 1 HI SEELOG NODEID TDATE >> QUEUE COMMAND SET PF15 FFILE NODEID FLDATE >> PEEK SPNO '(FOR * PROFILE PROFDISZ' >> PURGE RDR SPNO >> EXIT: >> WAKEUP RESET >> SET MSG ON >> SET IMSG ON >> EXIT >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of Wakser, David >> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Best method >> >> >> All: >> >>What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to >> arrive in its reader? >> >>I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a >> "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a >> SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" >> an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? >> >>Thanks, in advance. >> >> David Wakser >> > > > > -- > Kris Buelens, > IBM Belgium, VM customer support > > -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems
Re: RACF and MAINT
On Tuesday, 07/01/2008 at 12:29 EDT, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use'd define MAINT as a logonby user > RAC RDEFINE SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT > RAC PERMIT MAINT.LOGONBY CLASS(SURROGAT) ID( > to define which users/groups can issue >LOGON MAINT BY xxx and give the pwsd of xxx > > As to avoid RACF revoking users due to inactivity: XAUTOLOG them every now and > then. As of z/VM 5.3, you can now remove a user's password entirely (ALTUSER NOPASSWORD). This prevents revocation due to invalid password attempts. Preventing revocation due to inactivity is known in RACF terms as a "protected" user, support that is in z/OS, but not yet in z/VM. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Best method
Not pretty, but it has worked for a very long time. Sort of like an old horse she may not look like much, but she still plows the field. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Ugh, such ugly code. Have a look at the TCVM1 package to learn some REXX coding techniques. It is an HTML selfstudy. 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Not many comments to explain the code but here is an example. WAKEUP RESET CP SET IMSG IUCV CP SET MSG IUCV . . . . . DATEOK: FLDATE = RIGHT(DATE(S,TDATE,U),6) SET CMSTYPE HT TELL OPERATOR AT NODEID GET LOG FLDATE WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (IUCVMSG' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 PULL RESPONSE PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . IF FIND(RESPONSE,'DMSDSK002E') ¬=0 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT1 WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (RDR ' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 DO FOREVER SPNO = FIND(RESPONSE,'RDR FILE') IF SPNO ¬= 0 THEN DO SPNO = SPNO + 2 SIGNAL PEEKIT END WAKEUP '+00:00:10 (IUCVMSG' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 PULL RESPONSE PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . END PEEKIT: DESBUF SPNO = WORD(RESPONSE,SPNO) QUEUE COMMAND SET RESERVED 1 HI SEELOG NODEID TDATE QUEUE COMMAND SET PF15 FFILE NODEID FLDATE PEEK SPNO '(FOR * PROFILE PROFDISZ' PURGE RDR SPNO EXIT: WAKEUP RESET SET MSG ON SET IMSG ON EXIT -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Best method
Kris: Be nice, please - he was kind enough to send me the code to see a "living" example! :) David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method To all readers thinking they'd nee to intercept the message of an arriving spool file: it leaves a hole: reader files sitting there before WAKEUP/PIPE/xxx were active remain in the reader until another RDR file arrives. WAKEUP hasn't that problem. And, you can save yourself a lot a work by looking at my RxServer package: it handles reader fies etc, built around WAKEUP, with built-in security etc. 2008/7/1 Hughes, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How would the STARMSG pipeline detect someone typing a message at the console and hitting the ENTER key? Would it require another concurrent pipe running? I like WAKEUP because I can set timer interrupts, reader interrupts, message interrupts, and console interrupts. ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method >Is there a method of also trapping the "message" > that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? > I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP > it seems that setting the various message > types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Well ... everyone was saying "use WAKEUP" and that's good advice, but I prefer to start with Pipelines. Pipes would catch all those messages you're interested in. Your EXEC would look something like ... /* REXX */ 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' 'PIPE STARMSG | REXX MYTHING' And then MYTHING REXX might begin as ... /* REXX */ Do Forever 'PEEKTO RECORD' /* examine the record, but do not consume it */ If rc ^= 0 Then Leave /* parse the variable "record" and figger things out */ 'READTO' /* now consume that record and loop to get another */ End You can do all of this with WAKEUP. The calling semantics are different. -- R; <>< -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Best method
Ugh, such ugly code. Have a look at the TCVM1 package to learn some REXX coding techniques. It is an HTML selfstudy. 2008/7/1 Huegel, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Not many comments to explain the code but here is an example. > > WAKEUP RESET > CP SET IMSG IUCV > CP SET MSG IUCV > . > . > . > . > . > > DATEOK: > FLDATE = RIGHT(DATE(S,TDATE,U),6) > SET CMSTYPE HT > TELL OPERATOR AT NODEID GET LOG FLDATE > WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (IUCVMSG' > IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 > PULL RESPONSE > PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . > IF FIND(RESPONSE,'DMSDSK002E') ¬=0 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT1 > WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (RDR ' > IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 > DO FOREVER > SPNO = FIND(RESPONSE,'RDR FILE') > IF SPNO ¬= 0 THEN DO > SPNO = SPNO + 2 > SIGNAL PEEKIT > END > WAKEUP '+00:00:10 (IUCVMSG' > IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 > PULL RESPONSE > PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . >END > PEEKIT: > DESBUF > SPNO = WORD(RESPONSE,SPNO) > QUEUE COMMAND SET RESERVED 1 HI SEELOG NODEID TDATE > QUEUE COMMAND SET PF15 FFILE NODEID FLDATE > PEEK SPNO '(FOR * PROFILE PROFDISZ' > PURGE RDR SPNO > EXIT: > WAKEUP RESET > SET MSG ON > SET IMSG ON > EXIT > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Wakser, David > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Best method > > > All: > >What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to > arrive in its reader? > >I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a > "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a > SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" > an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? > >Thanks, in advance. > > David Wakser > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Best method
To all readers thinking they'd nee to intercept the message of an arriving spool file: it leaves a hole: reader files sitting there before WAKEUP/PIPE/xxx were active remain in the reader until another RDR file arrives. WAKEUP hasn't that problem. And, you can save yourself a lot a work by looking at my RxServer package: it handles reader fies etc, built around WAKEUP, with built-in security etc. 2008/7/1 Hughes, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How would the STARMSG pipeline detect someone typing a message at the > console and hitting the ENTER key? Would it require another concurrent pipe > running? > > > > I like WAKEUP because I can set timer interrupts, reader interrupts, > message interrupts, and console interrupts. > > ___ > Jim Hughes > 603-271-5586 > "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) > -- > > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *Richard Troth > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:12 PM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* Re: Best method > > > > >Is there a method of also trapping the "message" > > > that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? > > I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP > > it seems that setting the various message > > types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, > > > Well ... everyone was saying "use WAKEUP" and that's good advice, but I > prefer to start with Pipelines. Pipes would catch all those messages you're > interested in. > > Your EXEC would look something like ... > > /* REXX */ > 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' > 'PIPE STARMSG | REXX MYTHING' > > > And then MYTHING REXX might begin as ... > > /* REXX */ > Do Forever > 'PEEKTO RECORD' /* examine the record, but do not consume it */ > If rc ^= 0 Then Leave > /* parse the variable "record" and figger things out */ > 'READTO' /* now consume that record and loop to get another */ > End > > > > You can do all of this with WAKEUP. The calling semantics are different. > > > -- R; <>< > > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Best method
Jim Hughes asked: > How would the STARMSG pipeline detect someone > typing a message at the console and hitting the ENTER key? > Would it require another concurrent pipe running? Concurrent, yes. For console input, I would simply fan-in a CONSOLE stage. You can even fan-in TCP connections, if you like. (trickier) What I typically do is attach the stages from within the gem (eg: MYTHING REXX). Something like ... /* REXX */ ... other stuff ... 'ADDPIPE (END !) STARMSG | FI: FANINANY | *.INPUT:' , 'CONSOLE ASYNC | SPEC /CONSOLE / | FI:' ... main body and the peekto/readto loop ... In this example, STARMSG prefixes each record with a message type, so I also prefix "CONSOLE " to each record of terminal input. -- R; <><
Re: RACF and MAINT
We do LOGONBY but some people forget and try to logon directly to MAINT, enter their own logon password (an incorrect pw for MAINT), RACF dutifully counts these consecutive wrong logon pw's and after 1 attempt in Jan, 1 attempt in July and the 3rd consecutive one in say May of the following year RACF thinks MAINT has tried 3 consecutive times to logon with the wrong password and revokes MAINT. RACF needs a better sense of time. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RACF and MAINT I think you have a valid concern. The 'Security on z/VM' redbook suggests to use 'logon by' for MAINT to avoid a) giving out it's password and 2) the possibility of it's password being revoked due to people possibly forgetting it. A sensible solution. Leland Lucius wrote: > Being new to this RACF on VM thing, I'm a little paranoid about how the > MAINT user should be handled in relation to things like password policies. > > Mind you, we don't use MAINT all that often, but I'd hate to get myself > in a position where I needed it and was unable to use it because the > password was revoked or something similar. > > How do y'all handle MAINT with RACF. Is it really a major concern or am > I just being a fraidy cat? > > Leland > -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009
Re: Best method
How would the STARMSG pipeline detect someone typing a message at the console and hitting the ENTER key? Would it require another concurrent pipe running? I like WAKEUP because I can set timer interrupts, reader interrupts, message interrupts, and console interrupts. ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method >Is there a method of also trapping the "message" > that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? > I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP > it seems that setting the various message > types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Well ... everyone was saying "use WAKEUP" and that's good advice, but I prefer to start with Pipelines. Pipes would catch all those messages you're interested in. Your EXEC would look something like ... /* REXX */ 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' 'PIPE STARMSG | REXX MYTHING' And then MYTHING REXX might begin as ... /* REXX */ Do Forever 'PEEKTO RECORD' /* examine the record, but do not consume it */ If rc ^= 0 Then Leave /* parse the variable "record" and figger things out */ 'READTO' /* now consume that record and loop to get another */ End You can do all of this with WAKEUP. The calling semantics are different. -- R; <><
Re: Best method
Jim: Thanks. Yes, I am somewhat comfortable with PIPES. Perhaps I'll just revert back to how I did it 20 years ago - except I'll spruce it up with PIPES! David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Querying the rdr and processing the responses is a better approach than asking WAKEUP to stack the reader arrived messages. As long as reader files exist in your reader, WAKEUP gets a single interrupt, not an interrupt for each file. I pipe the query rdr responses into a pipeline and hit the ground running. Are you familiar with using PIPES? I can supply a little example of using WAKEUP followed by a PIPE command. Good Luck. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:19 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Yes, I can try that - it just seemed that WAKEUP would handle the =>message also. The SET IMSG didn't help. => =>David Wakser => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Bob Bates =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:14 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>I believe you could do a 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' and trap that message as =>well off the WAKEUP. Could Piping a CP Q R or CP Q RDR ALL into a =>variable get you the information you need so you don't have to handle =>both interupts? => => =>Bob Bates =>Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and =>z/Linux => =>w. (469)892-6660 =>c. (214) 907-5071 => =>"This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. =>If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the =>addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on =>this message or any information herein. If you have received this =>message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail =>and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." => => => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:04 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Bob: => => Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when =>a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE =>properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message =>types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, => => Thanks, in advance. => =>David Wakser => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Bob Bates =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Absolutely, => Use the WAKEUP module. => => I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The =>waiting part looks like: => => => do forever => 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' => saverc = rc => select => when saverc = 4 then => "process reader file" => when saverc = 5 then => "process a message" => =>You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader =>files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: RACF and MAINT
Use'd define MAINT as a logonby user RAC RDEFINE SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT RAC PERMIT MAINT.LOGONBY CLASS(SURROGAT) ID( to define which users/groups can issue LOGON MAINT BY xxx and give the pwsd of xxx As to avoid RACF revoking users due to inactivity: XAUTOLOG them every now and then. 2008/7/1 Leland Lucius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Being new to this RACF on VM thing, I'm a little paranoid about how the > MAINT user should be handled in relation to things like password policies. > > Mind you, we don't use MAINT all that often, but I'd hate to get myself in > a position where I needed it and was unable to use it because the password > was revoked or something similar. > > How do y'all handle MAINT with RACF. Is it really a major concern or am I > just being a fraidy cat? > > Leland > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: RACF and MAINT
I think you have a valid concern. The 'Security on z/VM' redbook suggests to use 'logon by' for MAINT to avoid a) giving out it's password and 2) the possibility of it's password being revoked due to people possibly forgetting it. A sensible solution. Leland Lucius wrote: Being new to this RACF on VM thing, I'm a little paranoid about how the MAINT user should be handled in relation to things like password policies. Mind you, we don't use MAINT all that often, but I'd hate to get myself in a position where I needed it and was unable to use it because the password was revoked or something similar. How do y'all handle MAINT with RACF. Is it really a major concern or am I just being a fraidy cat? Leland -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009
Re: Best method
Querying the rdr and processing the responses is a better approach than asking WAKEUP to stack the reader arrived messages. As long as reader files exist in your reader, WAKEUP gets a single interrupt, not an interrupt for each file. I pipe the query rdr responses into a pipeline and hit the ground running. Are you familiar with using PIPES? I can supply a little example of using WAKEUP followed by a PIPE command. Good Luck. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:19 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Yes, I can try that - it just seemed that WAKEUP would handle the =>message also. The SET IMSG didn't help. => =>David Wakser => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Bob Bates =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:14 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>I believe you could do a 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' and trap that message as =>well off the WAKEUP. Could Piping a CP Q R or CP Q RDR ALL into a =>variable get you the information you need so you don't have to handle =>both interupts? => => =>Bob Bates =>Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and =>z/Linux => =>w. (469)892-6660 =>c. (214) 907-5071 => =>"This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. =>If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the =>addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on =>this message or any information herein. If you have received this =>message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail =>and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." => => => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:04 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Bob: => => Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when =>a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE =>properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message =>types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, => => Thanks, in advance. => =>David Wakser => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Bob Bates =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Absolutely, => Use the WAKEUP module. => => I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The =>waiting part looks like: => => => do forever => 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' => saverc = rc => select => when saverc = 4 then => "process reader file" => when saverc = 5 then => "process a message" => =>You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader =>files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: Best method
>Is there a method of also trapping the "message" > that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? > I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP > it seems that setting the various message > types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Well ... everyone was saying "use WAKEUP" and that's good advice, but I prefer to start with Pipelines. Pipes would catch all those messages you're interested in. Your EXEC would look something like ... /* REXX */ 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' 'PIPE STARMSG | REXX MYTHING' And then MYTHING REXX might begin as ... /* REXX */ Do Forever 'PEEKTO RECORD' /* examine the record, but do not consume it */ If rc ^= 0 Then Leave /* parse the variable "record" and figger things out */ 'READTO' /* now consume that record and loop to get another */ End You can do all of this with WAKEUP. The calling semantics are different. -- R; <><
Re: Best method
You did tell WAKEUP to trigger on IUCV messages, I presume. That has to be explicitly specified. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:11 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Did that - it didn't help. > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:09 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > You would probably need to SET CPCONIO IUCV. > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > >
Re: Best method
Yes, I can try that - it just seemed that WAKEUP would handle the message also. The SET IMSG didn't help. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method I believe you could do a 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' and trap that message as well off the WAKEUP. Could Piping a CP Q R or CP Q RDR ALL into a variable get you the information you need so you don't have to handle both interupts? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Bob: Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Thanks, in advance. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The waiting part looks like: do forever 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then "process reader file" when saverc = 5 then "process a message" You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
RACF and MAINT
Being new to this RACF on VM thing, I'm a little paranoid about how the MAINT user should be handled in relation to things like password policies. Mind you, we don't use MAINT all that often, but I'd hate to get myself in a position where I needed it and was unable to use it because the password was revoked or something similar. How do y'all handle MAINT with RACF. Is it really a major concern or am I just being a fraidy cat? Leland
Re: Best method
Not many comments to explain the code but here is an example. WAKEUP RESET CP SET IMSG IUCV CP SET MSG IUCV . . . . . DATEOK: FLDATE = RIGHT(DATE(S,TDATE,U),6) SET CMSTYPE HT TELL OPERATOR AT NODEID GET LOG FLDATE WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (IUCVMSG' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 PULL RESPONSE PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . IF FIND(RESPONSE,'DMSDSK002E') ¬=0 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT1 WAKEUP '+00:00:15 (RDR ' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 DO FOREVER SPNO = FIND(RESPONSE,'RDR FILE') IF SPNO ¬= 0 THEN DO SPNO = SPNO + 2 SIGNAL PEEKIT END WAKEUP '+00:00:10 (IUCVMSG' IF RC = 2 THEN SIGNAL ERREXT3 PULL RESPONSE PARSE VAR RESPONSE MTYPE . MNO . SPNO . END PEEKIT: DESBUF SPNO = WORD(RESPONSE,SPNO) QUEUE COMMAND SET RESERVED 1 HI SEELOG NODEID TDATE QUEUE COMMAND SET PF15 FFILE NODEID FLDATE PEEK SPNO '(FOR * PROFILE PROFDISZ' PURGE RDR SPNO EXIT: WAKEUP RESET SET MSG ON SET IMSG ON EXIT -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser
Re: Best method
I believe you could do a 'CP SET IMSG IUCV' and trap that message as well off the WAKEUP. Could Piping a CP Q R or CP Q RDR ALL into a variable get you the information you need so you don't have to handle both interupts? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Bob: Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Thanks, in advance. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The waiting part looks like: do forever 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then "process reader file" when saverc = 5 then "process a message" You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: Best method
Did that - it didn't help. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method You would probably need to SET CPCONIO IUCV. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: Best method
I don't have access to that product, and I prefer to remain "plain vanilla" with this. But it's good to know, and thanks for the information. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method If you have CA products available, check out KWAKEUP. It handles everything that WAKEUP does and does it better. For example, it gives you an option to put the information about the event causing the interrupt into REXX variables. There is no need to clear the stack of wakeup entries that did not cause the interrupt. It also does not have any necessity of having an artificial pre-midnight wakeup. An interval can be started on one day and not trigger the interrupt until some future date. It is WAKEUP compatible should you choose to go that route.
Re: Best method
Just issue a PIPE CP Q RDR * ALL to get all the reader files sitting in your reader queue. This way you can also check for "HELD" files, prt/pun files, form, etc... I've never used the "file in reader" message for anything. There is a "XRDR" command to help as well. Issue HELP XRDR Good Luck. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:04 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Bob: => => Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when =>a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE =>properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message =>types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, => => Thanks, in advance. => =>David Wakser => =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Bob Bates =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Best method => =>Absolutely, => Use the WAKEUP module. => => I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The =>waiting part looks like: => => => do forever => 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' => saverc = rc => select => when saverc = 4 then => "process reader file" => when saverc = 5 then => "process a message" => =>You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader =>files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: Best method
You would probably need to SET CPCONIO IUCV. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:04 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Bob: > > Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that > shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to > issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that > setting the various message types to IUCV should work, but it > doesn't seem to do that, > > Thanks, in advance. > > David Wakser > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Absolutely, > Use the WAKEUP module. > > I have a program that waits for reader files and > messages. The waiting part looks like: > > > do forever > 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' > saverc = rc > select > when saverc = 4 then > "process reader file" > when saverc = 5 then > "process a message" > > You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for > reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details >
Re: Best method
If you have CA products available, check out KWAKEUP. It handles everything that WAKEUP does and does it better. For example, it gives you an option to put the information about the event causing the interrupt into REXX variables. There is no need to clear the stack of wakeup entries that did not cause the interrupt. It also does not have any necessity of having an artificial pre-midnight wakeup. An interval can be started on one day and not trigger the interrupt until some future date. It is WAKEUP compatible should you choose to go that route. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:24 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Thanks, Bob. I haven't used WAKEUP for many years, so I'll try it. > > David Wakser > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Best method > > Absolutely, > Use the WAKEUP module. > > I have a program that waits for reader files and > messages. The waiting part looks like: > > > do forever > 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' > saverc = rc > select > when saverc = 4 then > "process reader file" > when saverc = 5 then > "process a message" > > You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for > reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details >
Re: Best method
Bob: Is there a method of also trapping the "message" that shows when a file is sent to the VM reader? I need it to issue the RECEIVE properly. In the HELP WAKEUP it seems that setting the various message types to IUCV should work, but it doesn't seem to do that, Thanks, in advance. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The waiting part looks like: do forever 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then "process reader file" when saverc = 5 then "process a message" You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
David, it's easier than you might think. I have done it several times with this procedure in user maint 1. attach new volumes to maint 2. copy all 530res, (if mod 3 530w01,530w02), 530pag and 530spl to new volumes with DDR. You can of course also restore them from a backup. 3. CPFMTXA device-of-530res 530rs1 LABEL (530rs1 is the new label of the new 530res disk), analog for all other volumes 4. Q MDISK 191 LOC This shows the location of the maint 191 on 530res. 5. DEF MDISK 111 startcyl-of-step4 size-of-step-4 530rs1 (The MAINT user must have OPTION DEVMAINT in user direct when using this command.) AC 111 T X USER DIRECT T C /530RES/530RS1/** (or whatever new label you have set in step3), analog for all other volumes save the changes DIRECTXA USER DIRECT T (The DIRECTORY statement in the new USER DIRECT must point also to the new res. Because it is not the active res it is only updated on disk, not made online) 6. Q MDISK CF1 LOC 7. DEF MDISK 111 startcyl-of-step6 size-of-step-6 530rs1 AC 111 T X SYSTEM CONFIG T C /530RES/530RS1/** (or whatever new label you have set in step3), analog for all other volumes eventually changes of the consoles, but this can also be overwritten with the standalone loader eventually changes of user_volume_include list etc. This depends if you want to start the new vm in 2nd level or lpar. In 2nd level the system sees only the volumes which you define to the user, in lpar it sees all the volumes it is allowed to by iocds. save the changes 8. ready to take IPL. You must do a FORCE start at first IPL Hope this helps. kind regards Franz Josef Pohlen Juarez, David T. schrieb: We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES and spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have simple procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes so we can IPL off the alternates and leave the original res and spool untouched. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service shows how to backup the Res and saved system and segments but the SPXTAPE utility implies you want to restore to the current spool volume not an alternate. Also is anyone using symbolics in system config and/or the user directory like we do in z/OS parmlib? Thanks. David T. Juárez Department of Veterans Affairs IT Specialist
Re: Making Devices Available
It was not changing the h/w configuration, the devices have been in the IOCP and actually installed for months. They were in a Devices_NotAccpted list because our storage management group is MVS based and does not want us to have any devices not specified as VM devices available to the system. They are Not_Accepted because there are 6000 of them, so they would take up a lot of storage and get in the way of some monitoring functions.The devices in question are ones being given to VM for a project. I needed to change them to ACCEPTED and make them available without an IPL. The commands I needed were: SET DEVICES ACCEPTED rdev1-rdevn SET RDEVICE rdev1-rdevn TYPE DASD VARY ON rdev1-rdevn It turns out that I cannot use the commands that alter the IOCDS because the token is not a VM token. I tried and failed :-) The h/w group that does IOCPs is also MVS based. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Making Devices Available DEFINE DEVICE/CNTLUNIT/CHPID are the commands to dynamically change HW the IO-config (i.e. the IOCP so to speak). SET RDEVICE is normally required only when the device doesn't answer to a SENSID (kind of dynamic HCPRIO) 2008/7/1 Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: We have some DASD devices that were, until a few minutes ago, in the Devices_NotAccepted list. I have made some of them accepted, both in the SYSTEM CONFIG and by command. Now, I am confronted with a DEFINE DEVICE command that, from the HELP files is as clear as murky water to me (the problem may well be between my ears). Is it as simple as "DEFINE DEVICE F6EF-F6F7 UNITADD EF CUNUMBER DASD" ( to be filled in when someone supplies the value from the IOCP - I do not have ready access)? Assuming that I get them defined, is all that is left varying them online? They will initially be attached to the user who is going to prepare them for use, so there will be no ATTACH to SYSTEM. Regards, Richard Schuh -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Juarez, David T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES and > spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have simple > procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes so we can IPL > off the alternates and leave the original res and spool untouched. The Guide I'm not sure this is a common approach for dealing with system changes. Maybe you z/OS background is leading you to roads where you should not be. As far as I have seen, the 530RES has a lot of service machines data disks (like the 191) and you probably should not alternate between two sets. A lot of the configuration changes that you might find in the parmlib on z/OS is less central in z/VM. There's already two parm disks on the sysres volume. If you want, you can alternate between those to provide an easy backout for the new nucleus or maybe changes to the system configuration file. If you really don't care at all about spool files, you could probably use it just to get the new NSS files over with a checkpoint IPL. But overall, I think this approach will require a lot of tinkering. Rob
Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
No need to vary them off. The 530res pack in Maint's 123 mdisk and the 530spl is Maint's 122 mdisk. DDR the 123 and 122 to another volume. Here are the steps I suggested to one of my customers recently: *1. Duplicate the current z/VM system volumes* : 1. DDR 530RES(maint's 123), 530W01 (Maint's 12x), 530SPL(Maint's 122) to new volumes. (Are there more than 1 spool volumes?) *2. Bring up the copied volumes in a 2nd level z/VM system*. 1. Use the userid IBMUSER 2. Add to the option line in the user direct LNKNOPAS to IBMUSER 3. once logged to IBMUSER attach the new system volumes (and 1 unmodified volume) from the MAINT userid. 1. Configure virtual machine for 2^nd level with following commands: 1. term conmode 3270 2. def 009 xxx where xxx is the addr of you ipl console 2. IPL CLEAR where = the address of the new 530res pack. (clear the screen if needed and respond to prompts) 3. log off operator 4. logon maint *3. Make changes to 2^nd level system* *1. Modify the SYSTEM CONFIG file on maint's CF1 mdisk* 1. cprel a 2. link maint cf1 cf1 mr 3. acc cf1 f 4. x system config f 5. change all volser from current 530RES, 530SPL, 530W01 etc to new volsers. 6. Update the system id with system id of lpar being configured. 7. Add “*vmlan macprefix 020001” *to the file if it doesn't exist and should be different from current system. 8. Update the VSWITCH definition with OSA card addresses. 9. Save the file. 10. Run syntax checker 1. access 193 g 2. CPSYNTAX SYSTEM CONFIG F 11. Return CF1 disk back to system 1. release f(det 2. CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A *2. Modify the USER DIRECT file*. 1. Make backup copy: 1. Copy USER DIRECT C USER DIROLD C (oldd 2. X USER DIRECT 3. Remove the userids that are ONLY on this system such as the linux guests. If these need to be on the 2^nd system they should be created there later with new dasd volumes. 4. Change all references using 530 volumes to new volser name convention. 5. Save user direct *3. Relabel the packs using CPFMTXA. Use only the label command*. *4. Reload the updated directory with the DIRECTXA command*. 1. Do this now that the VOLSER in the USER DIRECT file matches the new volser *4. Restart the system using SHUTDOWN REIPL command*. ( warm start will fail because of the volser changes) The 2^nd level system should now be able to be IPLED in the new LPAR. The changes done to this system under step 3(except 3.2.3) can now be done to the current system. You may need to hold off your changes to the VSWITCH definition until the current system can be ipled on the z10. This would then have both systems using your volser standards. Howard Rifkind wrote: This might work for you. Being that everything is new and nothing has changed, create a second system (first level) and some how vary off line the volumes from the first system so the new system doesn't see them. After you have two z/VM system loaded then zap the volume id's stand alone to anything you like and adjust accordingly. After, either system which is IPL'ed will not see duplicate volumes in the system. Just getting back into z/VM after two years away for the 4.4 release so others on the list might have a better way of doing what you want. >>> "Juarez, David T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/1/2008 9:06 AM >>> We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES and spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have simple procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes so we can IPL off the alternates and leave the original res and spool untouched. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service shows how to backup the Res and saved system and segments but the SPXTAPE utility implies you want to restore to the current spool volume not an alternate. Also is anyone using symbolics in system config and/or the user directory like we do in z/OS parmlib? Thanks. David T. Juárez Department of Veterans Affairs IT Specialist _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- 'in media stat virtus' Virtue's in the middle
Re: Best method
Thanks, Bob. I haven't used WAKEUP for many years, so I'll try it. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:21 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best method Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The waiting part looks like: do forever 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then "process reader file" when saverc = 5 then "process a message" You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details
Re: more ftpserve stuff
On Monday, 06/30/2008 at 03:26 EDT, "Gentry, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have set up a bfs and am trying to ftp to it from a linux guest in an IFL. > > I get the following message from Linux > 450 Directory if temporarily unavailable, Access failure, RC=24 > > And from the FTPSERVE console I get: > 14:38:29 DMSACR2133E VMSYSY:LNXUDB. is a byte file system. It cannot be accessed > 14:38:29 DMSPCL389E Invalid filemode: , > > Can I ftp to a BFS area? Yes. Most likely you issued the wrong CD command. E.g. you treated it as a traditional SFS directory: CD vmsysy:lnxudb.subdir instead of a BFS directory: CD /../VMBFS:VMSYSY:LNXUDB/subdir (See the TCP/IP User's Guide for more information.) But it's hard to say for sure since you didn't post a transcript of the FTP session. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Best method
Absolutely, Use the WAKEUP module. I have a program that waits for reader files and messages. The waiting part looks like: do forever 'WAKEUP +30 (RDR IUCVMSG' saverc = rc select when saverc = 4 then "process reader file" when saverc = 5 then "process a message" You might want to change the +30 if all it does is wait for reader files. See HELP WAKEUP for details Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services - Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Best method All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser
Re: Best method
Checkout WAKEUP. It does that and more. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Its kind of fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Wakser, David =>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:10 AM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Best method => =>All: => => What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to =>arrive in its reader? => => I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a =>"EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a =>SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" =>an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? => => Thanks, in advance. => =>David Wakser
Re: creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
This might work for you. Being that everything is new and nothing has changed, create a second system (first level) and some how vary off line the volumes from the first system so the new system doesn't see them. After you have two z/VM system loaded then zap the volume id's stand alone to anything you like and adjust accordingly. After, either system which is IPL'ed will not see duplicate volumes in the system. Just getting back into z/VM after two years away for the 4.4 release so others on the list might have a better way of doing what you want. >>> "Juarez, David T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/1/2008 9:06 AM >>> We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES and spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have simple procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes so we can IPL off the alternates and leave the original res and spool untouched. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service shows how to backup the Res and saved system and segments but the SPXTAPE utility implies you want to restore to the current spool volume not an alternate. Also is anyone using symbolics in system config and/or the user directory like we do in z/OS parmlib? Thanks. David T. Juárez Department of Veterans Affairs IT Specialist _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Best method
All: What is the best method to code, for a SVM, a wait for a file to arrive in its reader? I have a (very old) EXEC that has a "do forever" loop with a "EXECIO * CP (STEM" aa. "STRING CP Q RDR * ALL" command followed by a SLEEP when no files are found. Is there a better method of "waking up" an EXEC when a RDR file arrives? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser
Re: more ftpserve stuff
Alan, thanks for the reply. My FTPSERVE was already setup with the correct posix params. I am trying to FTP to FTPSERVE (on VM) from a Linux guest on an IFL. I would be issuing a PUT filename.filetype from the Linux guest. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in the first posting. All that being said, I am still unable to do a PUT. Steve -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: more ftpserve stuff On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:54:05 -0400, Gentry, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ETTELIFE.COM> wrote: >I have set up a bfs and am trying to ftp to it from a linux guest in an >IFL. > >I get the following message from Linux > >450 Directory if temporarily unavailable, Access failure, RC=24 > > > >And from the FTPSERVE console I get: > >14:38:29 DMSACR2133E VMSYSY:LNXUDB. is a byte file system. It cannot be >accessed > >14:38:29 DMSPCL389E Invalid filemode: , > > > >Can I ftp to a BFS area? Yes, but not with SFS syntax. First you have to follow the setup instructions in "z/VM V5R3.0 TCP/IP Pl anning and Customization": In order for FTP clients to access files and directories in the Byte File System (BFS), the FTP server must be defined as a POSIX "superuser." To allow this capability, the fol lowing statement must be included in the CP directory: POSIXINFO UID 0 GID 0 See z/VM: OpenExtensions User's Guide and z/VM: CP Planning and Administr ation for more information about configuring the FTP server in this manner. Second you have to use the correct syntax in "z/VM V5R3.0 TCP/IP User's G uide": CD /../VMBFS:VMSYSY:LNXUDB/path/ GET file.name etc. The /../VMBFS: is a constant! Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
creating an alternate z/VM res and spool pack
We just unloaded z/VM 5.3 and would like to create an alternate RES and spool pack. Current names are 530RES and 530SPL. Does someone have simple procedures to create alternate res and alternate spool volumes so we can IPL off the alternates and leave the original res and spool untouched. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service shows how to backup the Res and saved system and segments but the SPXTAPE utility implies you want to restore to the current spool volume not an alternate. Also is anyone using symbolics in system config and/or the user directory like we do in z/OS parmlib? Thanks. David T. Juárez Department of Veterans Affairs IT Specialist
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Re: Making Devices Available
DEFINE DEVICE/CNTLUNIT/CHPID are the commands to dynamically change HW the IO-config (i.e. the IOCP so to speak). SET RDEVICE is normally required only when the device doesn't answer to a SENSID (kind of dynamic HCPRIO) 2008/7/1 Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We have some DASD devices that were, until a few minutes ago, in the > Devices_NotAccepted list. I have made some of them accepted, both in the > SYSTEM CONFIG and by command. Now, I am confronted with a DEFINE DEVICE > command that, from the HELP files is as clear as murky water to me (the > problem may well be between my ears). Is it as simple as "DEFINE DEVICE > F6EF-F6F7 UNITADD EF CUNUMBER DASD" ( to be filled in when someone > supplies the value from the IOCP - I do not have ready access)? Assuming > that I get them defined, is all that is left varying them online? They will > initially be attached to the user who is going to prepare them for use, so > there will be no ATTACH to SYSTEM. > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
