Re: FW: logoff/force pending due to incomplete logon here
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Re: FW: logoff/force pending due to incomplete logon here
I will be doing DR testing this week and will not have time to look into this until some time next week. The behaviour was very repeatable if anyone wants to give it a go this week. 1. logon to user 2. start logon here of the same user from another terminal (wait at the password prompt) 3. logoff user from terminal 1 4. query user from another session (logoff/force pending is what I see) 5. condition can be cleared by pressing enter on terminal 2 Bob. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FW: logoff/force pending due to incomplete logon here On Tuesday, 11/03/2009 at 04:45 EST, Bob Levad ble...@winnebagoind.com wrote: I don't know if others have seen this behaviour, but I've seen discussion of logoff/force pending recently and found nothing similar in a quick internet search. If you LOGOFF or are FORCEd while you are in the middle of LOGON HERE, you should get HCPLGA6051E Restart the logon procedure because reconnect processing cannot be done Any time you get LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING and the condition doesn't clear itself in a reasonable[1] amount of time you should get a SNAPDUMP or restart dump and open a PMR. If CP isn't going to give you a hint as to what to do to fix the problem (other than IPL), then CP needs to not get into that state in the first place. Hence the need to open a PMR. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott [1] The longest you have to wait for an I/O to complete or get an error is twice the missing interrupt handler time for the device. INDICATE I/O will tell you if the user is waiting on I/O. Do a QUERY MITIME on any device you see the user waiting on. Take the longest MITIME and double it. For DASD and tape, the MITIME value comes from the device itself. Note that for 2nd level systems, the missing interrupt handler is turned OFF by default! This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited.
Re: DS8100 as SCSI mode
You might start with this redbook and then maybe we can help with any specifics.. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247266.html Scott On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Tony Bergenza tony.berge...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, If someone share infomation about the procedure to configure DS8100 in SCSI mode with ZVM 5.4 to be used by Suse Z/Linux. Thanks Regards Tony
Prevent 'CP READ'...
...what are the commands to prevent a 'CP READ'? Seems like there is some sort of combination of TERM or SET commands. For instance when I log onto MAINT it automatically goes into a 'CP READ', but when I log onto my personal account, it shows 'RUNNING'. I can't seem to find a difference between the TERM and SET, so perhaps there's something else? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: Prevent 'CP READ'...
'SET RUN ON' -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Prevent 'CP READ'... ...what are the commands to prevent a 'CP READ'? Seems like there is some sort of combination of TERM or SET commands. For instance when I log onto MAINT it automatically goes into a 'CP READ', but when I log onto my personal account, it shows 'RUNNING'. I can't seem to find a difference between the TERM and SET, so perhaps there's something else? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: Prevent 'CP READ'...
Oh yeahsorry it's been awhile (VM/ESA 2.3)! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rothman, Peter Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:47 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Prevent 'CP READ'... 'SET RUN ON' -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Prevent 'CP READ'... ...what are the commands to prevent a 'CP READ'? Seems like there is some sort of combination of TERM or SET commands. For instance when I log onto MAINT it automatically goes into a 'CP READ', but when I log onto my personal account, it shows 'RUNNING'. I can't seem to find a difference between the TERM and SET, so perhaps there's something else? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: Prevent 'CP READ'...
Set autoread off (CMS Command) Set Run On(CPCommand) Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. ==-Original Message- ==From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers ==Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 AM ==To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==Subject: Prevent 'CP READ'... == ==...what are the commands to prevent a 'CP READ'? Seems like there is ==some sort of combination of TERM or SET commands. ==For instance when I log onto MAINT it automatically goes into a 'CP ==READ', but when I log onto my personal account, it shows 'RUNNING'. I ==can't seem to find a difference between the TERM and SET, so perhaps ==there's something else? == ==Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. ==Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE ==American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 ==1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 ==Waco, Texas 76710 == == == == == == ==_ == ==This message contains information which is privileged and confidential ==and is solely for the use of the == ==intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that ==any review, disclosure, == ==copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly ==prohibited. If you have == ==received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at ==privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: Prevent 'CP READ'...
And to avoid that PA1 sets you in CP READ: SET CONCEAL ON or TERM BRKKEY NONE (but never do that to my userid, no PA1? What should I do then in case of emergency) 2009/11/4 Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov Set autoread off (CMS Command) Set Run On(CPCommand) Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. ==-Original Message- ==From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers ==Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 AM ==To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==Subject: Prevent 'CP READ'... == ==...what are the commands to prevent a 'CP READ'? Seems like there is ==some sort of combination of TERM or SET commands. ==For instance when I log onto MAINT it automatically goes into a 'CP ==READ', but when I log onto my personal account, it shows 'RUNNING'. I ==can't seem to find a difference between the TERM and SET, so perhaps ==there's something else? == ==Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. ==Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE ==American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 ==1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 ==Waco, Texas 76710 == == == == == == ==_ == ==This message contains information which is privileged and confidential ==and is solely for the use of the == ==intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that ==any review, disclosure, == ==copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly ==prohibited. If you have == ==received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at ==privacy...@ailife.com. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: question about sleep setting for linux virtual server start automatically
Probably trying to spread the starting of guests a little so it doesn't overwhelm the system at zVM IPL time. Opinions vary on what the spread should be if one is used... 3 every 15 secs - 10 every 1 minute - etc. I've seen several installations with over 100+ Linux guests not use any delay -- and just let zVM sort it out.. they'll all come up eventually. Scott On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: What is the reasonable setting for sleep time after issue xautolog server? On the planning and Administration Steps for automatically starting linux virtual servers and other virtal machines say: 1.After every third XAUTOLOG statement that starts a Linux virtual server, add this statement: CP sleep 15 sec Can someone tell me why? Sunny Hu -- This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original email. Thank you. (Sent by Webgate1)
Re: question about sleep setting for linux virtual server start automatically
Actually - I shouldn't say 'they will all come up eventually' so casually things can go wrong if processing bogs down too much -- things time out, device waits occur, etc... So spreading out the Linux guest startup might help if you're running into such issues. Scott On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: Probably trying to spread the starting of guests a little so it doesn't overwhelm the system at zVM IPL time. Opinions vary on what the spread should be if one is used... 3 every 15 secs - 10 every 1 minute - etc. I've seen several installations with over 100+ Linux guests not use any delay -- and just let zVM sort it out.. they'll all come up eventually. Scott On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: What is the reasonable setting for sleep time after issue xautolog server? On the planning and Administration Steps for automatically starting linux virtual servers and other virtal machines say: 1.After every third XAUTOLOG statement that starts a Linux virtual server, add this statement: CP sleep 15 sec Can someone tell me why? Sunny Hu -- This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original email. Thank you. (Sent by Webgate1)
Re: question about sleep setting for linux virtual server start automatically
I think the 15 seconds comes from the CMS server side. CMS servers come up much faster than a full operating system (such as Linux). I don't have much delay between each Linux startup, however, I do start the production servers such as NFS first, then delay 5 minutes (sometimes a file system check is forced), then startup the normal production servers, wait 15 minutes, and then start the test servers. Plan on the worse case of each server needing to do a file system check. Uggg. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting sunny...@wcb.ab.ca 11/4/2009 11:48 AM What is the reasonable setting for sleep time after issue xautolog server? On the planning and Administration Steps for automatically starting linux virtual servers and other virtal machines say: 1. After every third XAUTOLOG statement that starts a Linux virtual server, add this statement: CP sleep 15 sec Can someone tell me why? Sunny Hu This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original email. Thank you. (Sent by Webgate1)
FTP z/VM to z/VM
Hi all, I have a little knowledge problem here. I'm trying to FTP in binary a fixed reclen 80 file to another z/VM host system. Here's part of the log: bin TYPE i 200 Representation type is IMAGE. Command: quote site fix 80 site fix 80 200 Site command was accepted. Command: put l10200.vmarc SITE VARrecfm= This is supplied by z/VM 200 Site command was accepted. PORT 10,4,23,2,87,217 200 Port request OK. STOR l10200.vmarc As soon as I enter the put command, a SITE VARrecfm command is supplied by z/VM and the file ends up as VARIABLE on the remote side. I'm trying to FTP binary and get FIXED on both sides. If I download to a PC and then FTP back up to the remote z/VM, I don't see this problem because my Windows FTP doesn't invent a SITE VARrecfm command. Your suggestions/input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Booher
Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM
Hi, David. In addition to specifying type i you might need to specify mode b as well. Good luck. DJ On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:51:13 -0800, David Booher david.boo...@quest.com wrote: Hi all, I have a little knowledge problem here. I'm trying to FTP in binary a fixed reclen 80 file to another z/VM host system. Here's part of the log: bin TYPE i 200 Representation type is IMAGE. Command: quote site fix 80 site fix 80 200 Site command was accepted. Command: put l10200.vmarc SITE VARrecfm= This is supplied by z/VM 200 Site command was accepted. PORT 10,4,23,2,87,217 200 Port request OK. STOR l10200.vmarc As soon as I enter the put command, a SITE VARrecfm command is supplie d by z/VM and the file ends up as VARIABLE on the remote side. I'm trying to FTP binary and get FIXED on both sides. If I download to a PC and then F TP back up to the remote z/VM, I don't see this problem because my Windows F TP doesn't invent a SITE VARrecfm command. Your suggestions/input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Booher
Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM
You must issue a SENDSITE command prior to the PUT. This will toggle the default setting of automatically sending the SITE VARrecfm command prior to the PUT. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Booher Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FTP z/VM to z/VM Hi all, I have a little knowledge problem here. I'm trying to FTP in binary a fixed reclen 80 file to another z/VM host system. Here's part of the log: bin TYPE i 200 Representation type is IMAGE. Command: quote site fix 80 site fix 80 200 Site command was accepted. Command: put l10200.vmarc SITE VARrecfm= This is supplied by z/VM 200 Site command was accepted. PORT 10,4,23,2,87,217 200 Port request OK. STOR l10200.vmarc As soon as I enter the put command, a SITE VARrecfm command is supplied by z/VM and the file ends up as VARIABLE on the remote side. I'm trying to FTP binary and get FIXED on both sides. If I download to a PC and then FTP back up to the remote z/VM, I don't see this problem because my Windows FTP doesn't invent a SITE VARrecfm command. Your suggestions/input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Booher
Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM
Dave, Use 'TYPE E' and 'MODE B' rather than 'bin' and 'quote site fix 80' Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 11/04/2009 10:51:13 AM: Hi all, I have a little knowledge problem here. I'm trying to FTP in binary a fixed reclen 80 file to another z/VM host system. Here's part of the log: bin TYPE i 200 Representation type is IMAGE. Command: quote site fix 80 site fix 80 200 Site command was accepted. Command: put l10200.vmarc SITE VARrecfm= This is supplied by z/VM 200 Site command was accepted. PORT 10,4,23,2,87,217 200 Port request OK. STOR l10200.vmarc As soon as I enter the put command, a SITE VARrecfm command is supplied by z/VM and the file ends up as VARIABLE on the remote side. I'm trying to FTP binary and get FIXED on both sides. If I download to a PC and then FTP back up to the remote z/VM, I don't see this problem because my Windows FTP doesn't invent a SITE VARrecfm command. Your suggestions/input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Booher
PIPE question about RC
Is it possible to test the return code for EACH CP command as partially shown above : PIPE LITERAL C000 c001 c002 c003 ! split ! specs /vary off/ 1 W1 NW ! CP ! LITERAL RC ! CONSOLE and if a RC/=0 straight to execute a PIPMOD STOP to live the PIPE ? I have the default PIPE environment. Alain Benveniste
Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM
You need to enter the SENDSITE command. This prevents the defaults from taking over. David Wakser -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Booher Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FTP z/VM to z/VM Hi all, I have a little knowledge problem here. I'm trying to FTP in binary a fixed reclen 80 file to another z/VM host system. Here's part of the log: bin TYPE i 200 Representation type is IMAGE. Command: quote site fix 80 site fix 80 200 Site command was accepted. Command: put l10200.vmarc SITE VARrecfm= This is supplied by z/VM 200 Site command was accepted. PORT 10,4,23,2,87,217 200 Port request OK. STOR l10200.vmarc As soon as I enter the put command, a SITE VARrecfm command is supplied by z/VM and the file ends up as VARIABLE on the remote side. I'm trying to FTP binary and get FIXED on both sides. If I download to a PC and then FTP back up to the remote z/VM, I don't see this problem because my Windows FTP doesn't invent a SITE VARrecfm command. Your suggestions/input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Booher Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: PIPE question about RC
Alain, You can use another stream and put a label on the CP stage. The return codes will go to the secondary stream. The following is just an example and not really useful: pipe (end ?) LITERAL QUERY TIME|DUP 3|A:CP|CONS?A:|SPEC /RC=/ 1 1-* NW| CONS TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 Ready; You can see that the secondary output stream contains all of the return codes from the CP commands. I hope this helps. Doug Breneman z/VM Development IBM Endicott From: Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 11/04/2009 02:15 PM Subject:PIPE question about RC Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Is it possible to test the return code for EACH CP command as partially shown above : PIPE LITERAL C000 c001 c002 c003 ! split ! specs /vary off/ 1 W1 NW ! CP ! LITERAL RC ! CONSOLE and if a RC/=0 straight to execute a PIPMOD STOP to live the PIPE ? I have the default PIPE environment. Alain Benveniste
Re: PIPE question about RC
Something like this, perhaps. 'PIPE (end ?)' '| f: faninany', '| take 1', '| g: gate', '| pipestop', '? Literal .', '| split', '| g:', '| spec /vary off/ 1 w1 nw', '| cp: cp', '| cons', '? cp:', '| pick w1 ^== /0/', '| f:' Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PIPE question about RC Is it possible to test the return code for EACH CP command as partially shown above : PIPE LITERAL C000 c001 c002 c003 ! split ! specs /vary off/ 1 W1 NW ! CP= ! LITERAL RC ! CONSOLE and if a RC/=0 straight to execute a PIPMOD STOP to live the PIPE ? I have the default PIPE environment. Alain Benveniste
VM Dump Quandries
Large systems can be a challenge... Problem #1 -- Dump time. Customer took an abend on a 190GB VM LPAR. VM started dumping. (We assume it was to be a small dump -- just CP areas and the frame table.) Dumping at the rate of 25% every 6 minutes... (And we're dumping...) The customer IPLed at 12 minutes into the dump because they needed to get their production systems back up. Have any of the other large LPAR shops dealt with this? (Other than SET DUMP OFF ;-)Telling a customer to leave his system down for half an hour for a dump isn't popular... Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? Thoughts and suggestions (other than make the LPARs smaller) welcome... Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: PIPE question about RC
This question would be better asked on the CMS-Pipelines forum, but... First, I don't think you want to use pipmod stop. It would end asynchronous stages, but you aren't running any. As Doug says, you need to utilize the secondary output of CP. Try something like: Pipe (end ?) a:fanin | b:gate ? literal C000 C001 C002 C003 | split | b: | Spec /VARY OFF/ n w1 nw | c:cp | cons ? c: | Nfind 0| copy | a: Note that CP doesn't automatically uppercase its input, so if you're feeding it mixed case you'll probably get an error right off. If you can't depend on the case of your input, place a translate (XLATE) stage in front of the CP stage. -- Mike Harding z/VM System Support mhard...@us.ibm.com mike.b.hard...@kp.org mikehard...@mindless.com (925) 926-3179 (w) (925) 457-9183 (c) IM: VMBearDad (AIM), mbhcpcvt (Y!) The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 11/04/2009 11:27:12 AM: From: Doug Breneman/Endicott/i...@ibmus To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 11/04/2009 11:28 AM Subject: Re: PIPE question about RC Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Alain, You can use another stream and put a label on the CP stage. The return codes will go to the secondary stream. The following is just an example and not really useful: pipe (end ?) LITERAL QUERY TIME|DUP 3|A:CP|CONS?A:|SPEC /RC=/ 1 1-* NW| CONS TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 TIME IS 14:24:24 EST WEDNESDAY 11/04/09 CONNECT= 05:46:41 VIRTCPU= 000:01.24 TOTCPU= 000:04.53 RC= 0 Ready; You can see that the secondary output stream contains all of the return codes from the CP commands. I hope this helps. Doug Breneman z/VM Development IBM Endicott [image removed] Alain Benveniste ---11/04/2009 02:15:40 PM---Is it possible to test the return code for EACH CP command as partially shown above : Is it possible to test the return code for EACH CP command as partially shown above : PIPE LITERAL C000 c001 c002 c003 ! split ! specs /vary off/ 1 W1 NW ! CP ! LITERAL RC ! CONSOLE and if a RC/=0 straight to execute a PIPMOD STOP to live the PIPE ? I have the default PIPE environment. Alain Benveniste
Re: VM Dump Quandries
On Wednesday, 11/04/2009 at 02:44 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Problem #1 -- Dump time. Customer took an abend on a 190GB VM LPAR. VM started dumping. (We assume it was to be a small dump -- just CP areas and the frame table.) Dumping at the rate of 25% every 6 minutes... (And we're dumping...) The customer IPLed at 12 minutes into the dump because they needed to get their production systems back up. Have any of the other large LPAR shops dealt with this? (Other than SET DUMP OFF ;-)Telling a customer to leave his system down for half an hour for a dump isn't popular... Then don't. If time-to-recovery is less than time-to-obtain-diagnostics, then you can't really depend on a single LPAR. I would bring up my other z/VM LPAR (cold, warm, or hot) and let it start everyone while the other system dumps. I would probably add some automation in AUTOLOG1 using XLINK-formatted shared dasd that would atttempt to determine if the other LPAR was up and, if so, don't start any guests. In the event of an abend, then you have to manually intervene and use XLINK RESET on the to remove links held by the failed system. Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? We accept whatever you can get to us. z/VM 6.1 has a new DUMPLD2 utility that can break a dump into pieces as it loads to one or more minidisks. Then you can ftp each piece to us individually. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: VM Dump Quandries
We have a 110G VM LPAR. Dumps, however rarely they may be taken, do take time and space. We have 2 mod-09s specified as DUMP in SYSTEM CONFIG. Right now, 53% of one of the dump packs is allocated; the other, 0%. DUMPLOAD requires a full mod-09, as well. VMARC PACK of the dump, once loaded, gives considerably better compression than does COPYFILE. The last time that I sent a VMARC packed dump to IBM, it actually made it without error. IIRC, it has been awhile since I last sent a dump to them, it took about an hour. I have had problems FTPing big dumps to other vendors. VSSI has the ability to process partial dumps, so I have not had to break a dump into pieces for them - they usually find the problem in the first part that they receive. The operators do get antsy about the time it takes for the system to complete a dump and restart, but they are getting used to big systems taking a long time to dump. I would say that here, the priorities are, if possible, (1) speed up the time to take the dump and (2) reduce the size of the dumps. The 2 are not mutually exclusive. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM Dump Quandries Large systems can be a challenge... Problem #1 -- Dump time. Customer took an abend on a 190GB VM LPAR. VM started dumping. (We assume it was to be a small dump -- just CP areas and the frame table.) Dumping at the rate of 25% every 6 minutes... (And we're dumping...) The customer IPLed at 12 minutes into the dump because they needed to get their production systems back up. Have any of the other large LPAR shops dealt with this? (Other than SET DUMP OFF ;-)Telling a customer to leave his system down for half an hour for a dump isn't popular... Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? Thoughts and suggestions (other than make the LPARs smaller) welcome... Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: VM Dump Quandries
Well, if you need to be more highly available and can't wait for a dump on a VM system, you need more than 1 VM system ;) I wonder if IBM could speed up the dump writing time? 24 minutes seems like a long time to write 17GB. It's probably writing 1 4k block at a time :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM Dump Quandries Large systems can be a challenge... Problem #1 -- Dump time. Customer took an abend on a 190GB VM LPAR. VM started dumping. (We assume it was to be a small dump -- just CP areas and the frame table.) Dumping at the rate of 25% every 6 minutes... (And we're dumping...) The customer IPLed at 12 minutes into the dump because they needed to get their production systems back up. Have any of the other large LPAR shops dealt with this? (Other than SET DUMP OFF ;-)Telling a customer to leave his system down for half an hour for a dump isn't popular... Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? Thoughts and suggestions (other than make the LPARs smaller) welcome... Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM
That works perfectly. Thanks! From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP z/VM to z/VM Dave, Use 'TYPE E' and 'MODE B' rather than 'bin' and 'quote site fix 80' Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM Development
Re: VM Dump Quandries
The man has LPARs, and their associated memory, coming out the wazoo! What other VM LPAR? All the memory that we have available is allocated to the one that is dumping. Regards, Richard Schuh I would bring up my other z/VM LPAR (cold, warm, or hot) and let it start everyone while the other system dumps. I would probably add some automation in AUTOLOG1 using XLINK-formatted shared dasd that would atttempt to determine if the other LPAR was up and, if so, don't start any guests. In the event of an abend, then you have to manually intervene and use XLINK RESET on the to remove links held by the failed system. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: VM Dump Quandries
I was going to say... who has another 190G lpar sitting around doing nothing! That's over a $1M! Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM Dump Quandries The man has LPARs, and their associated memory, coming out the wazoo! What other VM LPAR? All the memory that we have available is allocated to the one that is dumping. Regards, Richard Schuh I would bring up my other z/VM LPAR (cold, warm, or hot) and let it start everyone while the other system dumps. I would probably add some automation in AUTOLOG1 using XLINK-formatted shared dasd that would atttempt to determine if the other LPAR was up and, if so, don't start any guests. In the event of an abend, then you have to manually intervene and use XLINK RESET on the to remove links held by the failed system. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: VM Dump Quandries
We accept whatever you can get to us. Fan-fold hardcopy? Get a chainsaw, Chuckie... we're gonna need to cut down and process a forest or two (or tree - pun intended)! ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/04/2009 02:14 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM Dump Quandries On Wednesday, 11/04/2009 at 02:44 EST, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Problem #1 -- Dump time. Customer took an abend on a 190GB VM LPAR. VM started dumping. (We assume it was to be a small dump -- just CP areas and the frame table.) Dumping at the rate of 25% every 6 minutes... (And we're dumping...) The customer IPLed at 12 minutes into the dump because they needed to get their production systems back up. Have any of the other large LPAR shops dealt with this? (Other than SET DUMP OFF ;-)Telling a customer to leave his system down for half an hour for a dump isn't popular... Then don't. If time-to-recovery is less than time-to-obtain-diagnostics, then you can't really depend on a single LPAR. I would bring up my other z/VM LPAR (cold, warm, or hot) and let it start everyone while the other system dumps. I would probably add some automation in AUTOLOG1 using XLINK-formatted shared dasd that would atttempt to determine if the other LPAR was up and, if so, don't start any guests. In the event of an abend, then you have to manually intervene and use XLINK RESET on the to remove links held by the failed system. Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? We accept whatever you can get to us. z/VM 6.1 has a new DUMPLD2 utility that can break a dump into pieces as it loads to one or more minidisks. Then you can ftp each piece to us individually. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
RXSOCKET Limits
A long time ago in a galaxy very near, there was a discussion about the maximum number of sockets that could be opened by a CMS user who was using RXSOCKET. It was determined that on the old system (z/VM 5.2, IIRC, possibly z/VM 5.1) the limit was 2000, but newer systems supported up to 5000. Has the limit since been increased and, if so, to what? Regards, Richard Schuh
question about sleep setting for linux virtual server start automatically
What is the reasonable setting for sleep time after issue xautolog server? On the planning and Administration Steps for automatically starting linux virtual servers and other virtal machines say: 1. After every third XAUTOLOG statement that starts a Linux virtual server, add this statement: CP sleep 15 sec Can someone tell me why? Sunny Hu This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original email. Thank you. (Sent by Webgate1)
Re: VM Dump Quandries
DUMPLD2 will help, when we get to 6.1... All the Linux guests are SAN-only (no 3390), so no XLINK. And since it's all NPIV enabled, it's non-trivial (both on VM and the storage unit) to bring up a guest in a different LPAR.. Especially to get multi-path back.. There are multiple LPARs already, mostly full.. And no spare 190GB.. ;-) And they are moving to more of an HA environment. But the Titanic, uh uh uh I mean the Queen Mary doesn't turn quickly... Lee Alan Altmark wrote: Then don't. If time-to-recovery is less than time-to-obtain-diagnostics, then you can't really depend on a single LPAR. I would bring up my other z/VM LPAR (cold, warm, or hot) and let it start everyone while the other system dumps. I would probably add some automation in AUTOLOG1 using XLINK-formatted shared dasd that would atttempt to determine if the other LPAR was up and, if so, don't start any guests. In the event of an abend, then you have to manually intervene and use XLINK RESET on the to remove links held by the failed system. Problem #2 -- Dump size. CP seems to allocate about 17GB for dump space out of the spool. Then to try and process the dump I'd need something like a mod-27 as a single large CMS minidisk... (Or a giant SAN LUN.) Then what? If I'm going to send the dump to IBM, I doubt FTPing a 20GB file is a choice... Back to good old tape? #2a -- does IBM accept huge SPXTAPE DUMPs? We accept whatever you can get to us. z/VM 6.1 has a new DUMPLD2 utility that can break a dump into pieces as it loads to one or more minidisks. Then you can ftp each piece to us individually. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
