Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Open Source your Office Spaces – Coworkable.com
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் < citizenof...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi, > > The question is not commercial or non commercials, it never fits into our > goals, > > With due respect to Thyagarajan's comments, I should not extend this thread. However, I am sure he won't mind me raising a couple of points (should we branch off the discussion into a new thread, may be a mail outside ilug-c group mail?) : a) the usage of "open" : while the member sincerely wants to extend the concept of "openness" to all spheres, we do see the abuse of the term as a brand value to promote diverse interests (what is the status of "open drug discovery project"?) ; the increasing examples of "open source" going into dual (sic) mode b) the real world scenario of mixing of open stuff and closed stuff -- permitting / permissive clauses of open source licensing [re the current thread topic , how will it tackle "no sub-letting" clause, unless the premises owner is "open sourcing" it ..] Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Free Open Source - Complete Local Setup - Data Mining Software tool
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Satya Prakash Prasad satyaprakash.pra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please let me know if there a free open source Data Mining Software which can be used across an org. of over 100o people. you could check Talend Studio https://www.talendforge.org/ https://www.talendforge.org/exchange/index.php http://www.talend.com/resources?qt-resources_tabs=4#qt-resources_tabs The tool should not attract and license or changes of any kind. I presume you mean license or charges. According to http://sourceforge.net/projects/talend-studio/ The license was GPLv2 until v5.3.X and changed to LGPLv3 since v5.4 The license was LGPLv3 from v5.4 to v5.5.X and changed to Apache License v2 since v5.6 Hence you may have to check about the charges for the version you find useful. [I will appreciate if you could share your views/opinion, in case you check this up.] with best wishes, Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] awareness class about FOSS
--- On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:10 PM, shamlik t tshaml...@gmail.com wrote: | I got a chance to introduce about FOSS . it will be like 3 hour section . | i need some more material to do a good presentation .somebody please | forward some links If you can give some idea about the type of audience, some more useful links/materials/suggestions could be given. [e.g., the appropriate FOSS equivalents for the proprietary software that they use] Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] FSFTN becomes user friendly
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Karthikeyan A K 77mi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello People, While we still stick to the old and debate about top posting and same age old things and live in the dead past, I have discovered a forum where there seems to be nothing of those rules and talk of software and technology prevails. “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” These words are generally attributed to Socrates -- though there is some debate about the authenticity : whether the quote originated much later. Anyway, the old vs young generation debate is continuous. Hope you will accept, even if you don't agree with, the youngster's inputs when you become old(!), just as some if not many of us are trying to. All the best in your new avenues and ventures. Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] PhD in in Computers Science at IIT Madras / Chennai
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Satya Prakash Prasad satyaprakash.pra...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately it does not works that way anyway .. Not sure if you understood my question, I don't require degree but research institutes does. Even companies do .. BTW I have self learned to write Linux Device Drivers / GCC Hooks and many more ... It also neither works out for IITM. Reason - You need to have Masters degree ... I found out MSc - Computer Science at Anna University - Distant education program - Any idea of this degree / university rating and its validity of certificate for doing higher studies like PhD. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Satya Prakash Prasad satyaprakash.pra...@gmail.com wrote: I am regular BSc passed out candidate and working as a software engineer for last 10 years. Below is the eligibility criteria for enrolling into PhD I understand that M.Sc. (CS-FOSS) is accepted as a qualifying degree for Ph.D. in Anna University. For the M.Sc. (CS-FOSS) itself, B.Sc. (and any undergraduate science/arts degree -- with some programming exposure) is the qualifying degree. [** admission is on for the 6th batch -- which is expected to start in mid-oct). As for Ph.D. in other universities : in general, regular post-graduate degree is accepted -- they may ask the research scholars to get some additional credits (including one on Research Methodologies), and waivers may be given based on the research topic and subjects studied in the degrees obtained by the candidate. For instance, Research methodologies may not be needed, if the candidate has M.Phil. In general, the process is reasonably straight forward if the qualifying degree is obtained from the same university. If you are migrating in from other university, it may vary from case-to-case. S.Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] தமிழ் மென்பொருள் உருவாக்கும் மையம் (Tamil Software Incubation Centre)
dear friends, Tamil Virtual Academy is setting up an incubation centre to assist tamil software development. for more details, please visit, http://www.tamilvu.org/coresite/html/cwincubation.htm would appreciate your help in spreading the word around -- esp. to various academic institutions, tamil developer groups, micro-small-medium industry, Tamilnadu LUGs/GLUGs and other FOSS groups, etc. i would also welcome pertinent suggestions to use the centre to bring more FOSS-Tamil products. thanks S. Srinivasan 9444302439 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Need to document the contributions of Free Software pioneers
hi all, as some (or many) might be aware, I am part of the faculty for M.Sc (CS-FOSS) online course, offered by Anna University. For the subject DIF7102 (Philosophy and Practice of FOSS), I could give the info about 10-15 foss contributors as assignment to the students for documentation / collation, and share the info giving them the credit (with some editing, if needed). towards this, i would request you to send me (to srini...@gmail.com), the links / references / info about the indian foss contributors. at present i would like do info collation on the following 15 persons (selection based on my own personal knowledge / interaction) : Atual Chitnis, Kenneth Gonsalves, Raj Mathur -- in memorium Shakthi Kannan, Raman, T. Shrinivasan, Bharathi Subramanian, Thyagarajan, Baskar, Girish, Welkin Dr. Gora Mohanty, Narendra Sisodaya, Frederick Noronha, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay I know there are many more -- would like to collect the links/references, and hope to work on the info later. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan 9444302439 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] License of Text books of Tamil Nadu School Books
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Guru Prasath apras...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Aren't the publicly funded textbooks by default in public domain? How can a government say copyrighted? I am confused. Quoting from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/ To copyleft a program, we first state that it is copyrighted; then we add distribution terms, which are a legal instrument that gives everyone the rights to use, modify, and redistribute While genuine FOSS and Open Access groups tend to keep the spirit and letter of 'openness, the babudom in government and even academia are caught between their real/avowed objectives of serving the society and yearning for control. Fearing the potential abuse of freedom, the tendency is often to clamp down the usage of materials and facilities or put them in the mire of procedures formalities. Thus, the first step of 'copy right' is taken, but the next step of distribution attribution is left incomplete. Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Tamil nadu government Switches to Linux
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Gowtham Raam professionalgr...@gmail.comwrote: https://oldpapyrus.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/tn-govt-goes-open-source/ http://www.zdnet.com/indian-state-goes-for-open-source-2061981452/ This is a very ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Tamil nadu government Switches to Linux
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Gowtham Raam professionalgr...@gmail.com wrote: https://oldpapyrus.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/tn-govt-goes-open-source/ As part of NRCFOSS (nrcfoss.org.in) -- promoted and supported by Govt of India -- activities, CDAC has come up with BOSS, derived from Debian, which has been installed and supported in various centres at Indian Navy, CHiPS of Chhattisgarh, school laptops in Punjab/Haryana, etc. Working with ELCOT, a version suited for TN govt operations has been created and training has been given to employees at various departments. Apart from the technical aspect, the trainers have also strived to generate FOSS awareness (and removal of many misapprehensions) among the trainees who are mostly non-technical staff using computer for day-to-day operations. The official notification should ease the way for more FOSS adoption. http://www.zdnet.com/indian-state-goes-for-open-source-2061981452/ This is a very old news item. Mr. Umashankar was transferred and posted elsewhere. I recall that he had interacted with some of the ILUG-C members who had put in sincere efforts to bring Linux into the system. Afterwards, there were 2-3 MDs -- the move towards FOSS was not as highly visible, but steady. ELCOT/NIC have introduced Linux servers, desktop Linux (NIC develops many eGov applns in Ubuntu ; CDAC team has installed BOSS in the Secretariat departments and trained the personnel). Of course, most of the legacy applns have been Windows based and many others too. Hope, the slow and steady introduction of FOSS/Linux will gain more momentum. Srinivasan (associated with NRCFOSS) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Fwd: Book release using FOSS
dear friends, i would like to share the msg from ms. ambika, a student of anna univ M.Sc. (CS-FOSS) online course. Imbibing the FOSS spirit, she has used FOSS tools while helping the release of a book on Ramanujam. we should also appreciate the efforts of her husband Prof Vanchinathan in contributing to the tamil repertoire thru his translation. srinivasan. -- Forwarded message -- From: Ambika V ambika.vanchinat...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:57 PM Subject: Book release using FOSS To: Dear All, I'm happy to inform you that my husband Professor Vanchinathan translated the biography of the Mathematician Ramanujan in to tamil from Robert Kanigel's book The Man Who Knew Infinity. I'm also happy to have contributed to it by typesetting the book using FOSS XeLaTeX and using free tamil fonts. Pagination, indexing everything related to book has been done using this software in the Linux Mint environment along with ibus supporting tamil input in Gedit. Also used sed editor for special purposes. Refer to info about the book release: (Page 2 of Todays's-22nd december The Hindu) http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/ramanujan-bio-released-in-tamil/article5488341.ece Regards, Ambika ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] M.Sc FOSS Final Semester Project
dear pavithran, On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2013 15:34, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: For the next batch (the admission is open) beginning in Oct 2013, I will try giving your experience in working with your nearby LUG as an assignment for the unit 2 of Philosophy and Practice of FOSS. For the next batch , Why not visit a LUG meet ? Or even organise Software Freedom Day ? Or attend Carte Blanches session which happens ( does it still happen ? ) in MIT ? Regards, Pavithran I advise all students to join nearby LUG. A number of them, esp. Chennai, Bengalore, Mumbai, Delhi, etc., have joined (or already were members). Of course, the newbie reluctance/problems do exist. For some, In some cases -- depending on student interest -- have given intro to nearby community groups/members like Abhas, Shakthi, etc. Of course, they have the freedom to follow up or not. Some have attended the events like Software Freedom Day, Gnuunify, etc. Carte Blanche still happens. Since most of them are working persons I don't want to push them much. Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] M.Sc FOSS Final Semester Project
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] M.Sc FOSS Final Semester Project
hi all, the Anna Univ M.Sc. CS-FOSS curriculum, syllabus and other details are available at : http://cde.annauniv.edu/MSCFOSS/ it may give you an overall idea of what the students are being taught (and expected to know). Since many of the students are working in some IT area, their knowledge levels will vary -- work experience might have increased their knowledge while some might have concentrated less on the subjects due to work pressure ! during my lectures (for 1st sem students) I advise them to start interaction with some FOSS group, preferably LUG/GLUG. I think a reasonable number of them have joined or already members of some FOSS group or other. For the next batch (the admission is open) beginning in Oct 2013, I will try giving your experience in working with your nearby LUG as an assignment for the unit 2 of Philosophy and Practice of FOSS. We generally advise the students to start thinking about the project options when they finish second semester. However, putting this into practice is a different matter. There is also the reality : most of the students have full time jobs tagged with personal family responsibilities. While this is not an excuse, I request those who have specific project suggestions to keep this in mind. I am also hoping to interact with the donor group so that the current batch could be helped out and some road map could be set for the forthcoming batches. Suggestions/interactions could be thru my gmail id : srini...@gmail.com thanks and best wishes Srinivasan 94443 02439 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: My sincere apologies for posting the FDP/Workshop Event Report mails in ILUG-C in the recent times. Do not understand the apology why ? I agree. No need for apology. Posting such events will a) coax more members -- especially new entrants to join you or spread the news about possibility of such events b) mentioning the name of the college and the concerned staff make them happy, and more so, induces other colleges to look for such events c) show cases the group activities As I came to know through Mr.Shrinivasan, the members of the ILUG-C community were against the term 'on behalf of ILUG-C' used in my posts. Possibly you or for that matter any institution/company could avoid using the term on behalf of ILUG-C. Technically, we are all encourage to evangelize/train, but not 'mandated'. The events are not discussed in the list and decided upon. Though I used to mention about ILUGC and mention the nearby FOSS groups in my talks, it was on behalf of NRCFOSS / AU-KBC/CDAC, as the case may be. Now that I am not officially engaged -- but still associated in their FOSS activities -- I have to be cautious while using the term. Personally speaking, I would like to see on behalf of ILUG-C -- may be, like FOSS development communities, we can have a core group -- members accepted on the basis of meritocracy contribution. Should definitely include the Coordinator (T. Shrinivasan, at present) and a few others. Kenneth would have teased me that Raman and Bharathi would have been my choices, and he would have been right. Continue your efforts and all the best. Srinivasan (ex) NRCFOSS/CDAC ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Center for Tamil Software
this is a meeting of the advisory group -- primarily to suggest possible actions and some basic framework. i presume there will be a bit more back forth between TVA, ELCOT and IT Dept. we plan to recommend that a formal announcement be made and an open meet/workshop be held. srinivasan On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: will update this list after attending the next advisory group meeting which is scheduled for 10th. in the meantime, i can collate any input i receive and present the same during our discussions. Thanks for the efforts. Is this meeting open to all? Who are the participants? What is the meeting time? -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Center for Tamil Software
TVA, with directions from State Govt (Dept of IT) had done some prelim works few months back. a meeting was held inviting members from academia working in language computing, industry persons (primarily those who had interacted with TVA on font development, etc.) -- i had alerted some of you. ramadoss(myself and dr ranjani from AU) couldn't attend as we had some other meeting. Request was made to suggest software/hardware setups. In the meantime, TVA had to wait for further directives from the govt. as you are aware, things move slowly for a long time and suddenly a spurt happens. will update this list after attending the next advisory group meeting which is scheduled for 10th. in the meantime, i can collate any input i receive and present the same during our discussions. srinivasan. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: Dear shrini, you may recall that I had suggested that some of you meet up with dr. Nakkeeran, director of Tamil virtual academy.There is an advisory committee to recommend hardware and software for the incubation centre. A meeting is scheduled on 10th. Some of you could suggest the software set from FOSS arena - can be sent to me or discussed and collated in this list so that I can pass on the same during the meeting. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZeOGy8TmCP8/UXzZ4dxT3hI/TS0/_RWe4YjAMZg/w697-h428-p-o/tamil-vu-software_1.jpg http://www.dinamalar.com/news_detail.asp?id=696684 In this news, there is no information about incubation center or entrepreneurship. To start with, the recommendation is to provide development facilities to individuals or small groups. While the govt would like to use the output in the state depts and agencies, the developer has an option to take the product and sell. We plan to suggest the FOSS route, but there are many steps in between. When is the execution starts? How can people approach the center for their development works? Do they have to pay any fee? How long a startup can be incubated there? Is there any public announcements of these offers? I fell the following action will help: Recommend a plethora of FOSS tools and apps which will help the developer While windows, photoshop, etc., are likely to enter the space, we plan to ensure that at least 3-4 systems will be Linux based, MySQL -PostgreSQL can be the main databases, libreoffice, gimp, blender, orca, etc., will find a place. Mr. Prince from Nic and myself on behalf of nr cfoss/cdac, with help from other members (mani manivannan, chellappan) hope to offer FOSS related support from the organs, lug and other communities. Good initiatives. Will there any announcement for getting suggestions from public.? or this is once of the closed group activities? Thanks for the suggestions. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Center for Tamil Software
Dear shrini, you may recall that I had suggested that some of you meet up with dr. Nakkeeran, director of Tamil virtual academy.There is an advisory committee to recommend hardware and software for the incubation centre. A meeting is scheduled on 10th. Some of you could suggest the software set from FOSS arena - can be sent to me or discussed and collated in this list so that I can pass on the same during the meeting. To start with, the recommendation is to provide development facilities to individuals or small groups. While the govt would like to use the output in the state depts and agencies, the developer has an option to take the product and sell. We plan to suggest the FOSS route, but there are many steps in between. I fell the following action will help: Recommend a plethora of FOSS tools and apps which will help the developer While windows, photoshop, etc., are likely to enter the space, we plan to ensure that at least 3-4 systems will be Linux based, MySQL -PostgreSQL can be the main databases, libreoffice, gimp, blender, orca, etc., will find a place. Mr. Prince from Nic and myself on behalf of nr cfoss/cdac, with help from other members (mani manivannan, chellappan) hope to offer FOSS related support from the organs, lug and other communities. Pool up info on useable work already done in Indian languages Propose projects by FOSS Tamil community members -- taking advantage of similar works done elsewhere and show casing how the community interactions help. The mail members may have other suggestions. Thanks and best wishes Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Why India Should Use Open-Source Software
Hence, I conclude: One distribution to bind them all! One distribution to cater to every need might turn out to be a mega monolith -- just as the proprietary group tend to do: even if you want only two tasks to be done, they are bundled with 200 other things. this leads to increase in cost, up/run time, etc. of course, one mega repository of the distribution with structured interfaces can go a great way. the issues there will be how to comfortably download, customise and bundle packages for the specific user group. an average user cannot do this, and this might be an opportunity for intermediate/expert FOSS members to offers their services. such intermediaries can take it from the global repositories! srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] M.Sc. CS-FOSS online distance education programme
On Thursday, March 21, 2013, Biju Balakrishnan wrote: Hi, cant find the syllabus. Who is the programme for? what all will be covered? would like to get these insights before even looking into it. *Biju * Pl visit 115.249.106.147/mscfoss/ and the menu items on curricula and syllabus for course details. Other menus give background etc. The programme targets working/non-working science and comp science graduates - B.Sc, B.C.A though B.E. graduates have also taken it up. Essentially a computer science course --language, database, networking, dev practices, etc. -- with focus on only FOSS tools and packages. Srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Two days FDP on FOSS in Dhaanish Ahmed College of Engineering, Near Padappai, Kanchipuram Dt.
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Re: [Ilugc] Two days FDP on FOSS in Dhaanish Ahmed College of Engineering, Near Padappai, Kanchipuram Dt.
dear bhaskar, continue the good work. as you might have noticed, most of the students use turbo c, though i keep hearing from many lecturers that they have to motivated to shift to gcc. as usual, a sizeable number of lecturers themselves need to be educated/encouraged. And the students rarely listen to the teachers -- but talks from experts like you might have a bit better impact. i presume you must already be doing it -- but can make some additional pitch to use the foss alternatives, esp., gcc, libre office, etc. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Tamil computing and open source
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: we need more computer professionals to learn linguistic skills. Tamil needs lot of tools like corpus, spell checkers, grammar checker, morphological, lexican analyzer etc. we have to create these tools and release them as free open source software. many people in this forum might not like it. The tamil computing, as envisaged by govt TVU, might have to come up in two stages : free software -- not in the sense of RMS, but freely downloadable. no source code, developed and approved in cathedral model. the plus point here is that the various departments will start using it. our efforts could be to infuse as many FOSS tools as possible into developing the system, and the package SHOULD run on linux platform. [I wouldn't risk talking about BSD and other variants. Anyway, Apple Mac is also not in the picture!] alongwith, FOSS developed in Bazaar model could be attempted -- possibly dual licensing mode. It is a long and tedioud process. As Sankarshan says it is the same status in all indian languages. political approval committee changes also add to the chaos. but we could strive. Srinivasan CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help for organizing a SFD event in my college
dear sriram, most of the time, FOSS events are getting confined to CS / IT. you could use the demo stalls to attract other depts : e.g., Scilab, Octave, QCAD. Hope you can talk to some of the friends in other depts to entice them or go thru you HoD. other demos could be (a) check thru sites of the projects like Sahana -- some modules, eg., to locate mssing persons, could be customised to deploy during Deepam Festival. you could make a start on this : let the people view the demo and get some interested persons involved. (b) software for schools : geogebra, etc. -- you will get good samples from OSCAR project of IIT Mumbai, HBCSE, etc. [if there is interest, you can contact them directly or I can put you thru. Please check with Prof Chellatamilan, if need be.] Since you have got an associated CBSE school, you could invite the students for demo stall. with best wishes Srinivasan. CDAC Chennai. On 8/22/12, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Last year sfd quiz document which i complied is available at http://pastebin.com/xqdJ3YJh regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] A short bio of Kenneth Gonsalves
Dear jaganadh / shrini: Kenneth was among the prime motivators and organizers of the (first) FOSS Conference , initiated by ILUGC, held at MIT Campus and there was a followup at Thyagaraja Engineering College, Madurai. We could possibly revive -- have another this year. I hope some college could come up to provide the base. It may be ideal if some Coimbatore college (e.g. Sri Ramakrishna) takes the lead. I will also try my luck with PSG, Amritha etc. If it fructifies, we could have it in the memory of Kenneth who was keen to take the conference to different part of the state. Srinivasan. CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] A short bio of Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Sundaram KR sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote: I will ensure that our college and Group KGISL and KITE College will provide the base. Kenneth came here twice for the inaugural meet of ilugcbe and subsequent meets. ...KRS 9487163 zero three five Great if we could get this under KG brand name (referring to college as well as kenneth !) while chennai-cbre LUG could work out the agenda, i would make the following suggestions: a) approach to the college authorities could be thru ILUG (expert resources) as well as NRCFOSS (academic/govt support - even if only nominal) b) sessions could include a workshop on Python and a half-day session on industry/entrepreneural focus (invite participants from local industry group, SME association w.r.to a mail from Jaganadh, PSG could be approached, among others, thru CSE HOD Prof Venkateswaran (I think) and Prof Karpagam. I could pitch in once he makes the intial approach (could quote me). Srinivasan CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Info about dear Kenneth
kenneth -- born in 1953 (september, i think) survived by two daughtes and wife. Srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Robot programming in CBSE international curriculum
hi all, CBSE has introduced the chapter Programming a Robo in their international curriculum for IX X, with the following topics : 1. ROBO Assembly 2. Programming a ROBO 3. TeProgramming a Robosting debugging. 4. Prepare your ROBO Manual with applications. The learning objectives are : Assembling a ROBO Programming a ROBO. Testing and debugging a ROBO. While there are proprietary packages tools in these topics, there is an interest to recommend FOSS based tools/packages/materials. [CBSE has an objective to make the teaching-learning platform independent and had introduced Linux, MySQL, etc., in the curriculum for ICT]. I would request those interested** -- with some expertise exposure -- to give suggestions re FOSS packages and tools. I would also like to have an interaction with them and would request them to contact me, preferably off the mailing list, thru my gmail id : srini dot it at gmail dot com thanks and best wishes Srinivasan Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist CDAC Chennai. ** please feel free to pass this msg to other mail lists. thanks, srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ilugc_Thoothukudi
hi : glad to know about your interest. you could contact Mr. Suthan 83su...@gmail.com [Attn.: Suthan, I presume you are still around that parts. You could share your thoughts, wisdom and experience.] you could also check with colleges in the vicinity -- I am sure Bhaskar would have set up FOSS Labs in some of them. He may have the names of the FOSS experts/enthusiasts over there. Some of us also could pitch in with info/contacts. The college contacts might give you a place for holding meetings/ sessions / workshops. If you think there in interest in school level, please share the info. with best wishes Srinivasan Project Scientist CDAC Chennai. On 3/19/12, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful share Kumar Appaiah :-) I have also thought about this; in my opinion, the key is a group of enthusiastic people who just want to join and discuss something they know, or are learning or working on, which is related to free software and Linux. A good document which details on some points is: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Linux_PR/newlug.html All the best! Kumar -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] MS Cloud operations in TN
On 3/9/12, technocraze technocr...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/8/2012 10:44 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: as a person with fair amount of experience with dealing with govt officials in various states I can assure you that the argument that 'neighouring state is doing this so our state should do it' is the surest way to ensure that it is not done. Each state thinks it is better than the others and this argument just irritates the officials. Base your arguments with reasons. +1 We need to approach them, as an organisation. (Probably FSF india??). And a strong online public protest, may help.. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] MSCFOSS
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:32 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: I am not questioning the policy. Since the course is related to FOSS and offered in distance mode people who never attended any tech degree courses may be interested in the course. Considering that it may be good if non-tech degree holders are also allowed to enroll for the course. Preferably they ca ask such students to undergo some bridge courses . The subject may be FOSS, but the degree is MS -- constrained by the University norms. Srinivasan CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [tech help] calling out for help from ubuntu system administrators
On 2/19/12, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 05:31 -0800, Karan Ahuja wrote: Looking forward to cool server admin book recommendations a small suggestion - try nginx instead of apache. It is much easier to use and configure. The default configuration alone should suffice for most apps. (facebook for example uses nginx) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] teaching Foss syllabus in colleges
I think we have to differentiate between (a) teaching FOSS, rather, imparting FOSS knowledge and (b) enabling the colleges to conduct FOSS courses that are part of the FOSS curriculum. Anna Univ colleges are expected to send the teachers to attend Faculty Development Programmes. In a number of such FDPs, ILUG members have participated, and am sure, are ready to participate in future. However, it may be a question of cutting the leg to fit the shoe size. At present, to my knowledge, Anna Univ Coimbatore syllabus has a FOSS theory course in 3rd year and Anna University (Chennai or for all?) has FOSS Lab. Colleges with FOSS enabled staff don't seem to have much problem but others have faced difficulties. On top of it, there is a worry about examiners -- many of them might have just heard about FOSS! In this respect, making the relevant slides, presentations, etc., might be worth the trouble. I understand there is a manual for FOSS Lab. It could be elaborated or reworked -- by the general norms, a companion for the FOSS Lab manual (?sic) Srinivasan. CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] teaching Foss syllabus in colleges
On 1/25/12, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, --- On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:30 PM, A. Naseer Ahmed sunas...@gmail.com wrote: | i take the effort to teach both for the staff members who are | interested, by doing Workshops for past two years in our campus and | out of campus. \-- Can you provide a link to your presentations/teaching material (under a free/open source software license) that others can benefit from? Do you have any event reports/pictures from the workshops you have conducted so far? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] teaching Foss syllabus in colleges
Most members of this list (at least the vociferous ones) have the view : staff is no good and we will reach out only to students. Much as I disagree with this*, what i consider dogmatic, view , I have not intention of starting a flame war or discussion how to correct the situation -- especially from staff end. [* in my short stint in a college, i could get to know what travails the teachers go through, especially the ones who want to do something worthwhile] However, I request the members to consider one point : while the students are transient, the staff provide a semblance of continuity. Wouldn't you consider Kumarans and Benedicts have made the existence and escalation of FOSS their colleges? Sudhan brought Andal Alagar College into FOSS fold. Once he left, the flame was dying down. Now the new set of lecturers are interested and we have to help them out. Of course, Sudhan has lit the flame in the new environment he is in. Hence some attention have to be given to them. As Bhaskar does, giving the names of staff in charge and also the HoD in the reports on workshops/installations will make them feel more committed. Will try from NRCFOSS end to keep the FOSS active colleges name in the limelight. Sathyakaam and many FOSS members are doing it in different ways. Re Shakthi's suggestion, can keep the slides/presentations on ILUG portals and also NRCFOSS portal. Shrini and Raman can suggest to Prof CNK that Anna University site could hold the materials too. Period workshops will help, but will have to coax the colleges / Anna Univ to organize them. I fully agree with the sentiment that the LUG/FOSS volunteers will be sought out to do the training and other dog works, with the staff apparantly doing nothing. I hope the FOSS enabled staff members in this list will help out to volunteer and expand the volunteer group by involving their colleagues and interested students. Srinivasan CDAC/NRCFOSS On 1/25/12, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/25/12, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, --- On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:30 PM, A. Naseer Ahmed sunas...@gmail.com wrote: | i take the effort to teach both for the staff members who are | interested, by doing Workshops for past two years in our campus and | out of campus. \-- Can you provide a link to your presentations/teaching material (under a free/open source software license) that others can benefit from? Do you have any event reports/pictures from the workshops you have conducted so far? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] teaching Foss syllabus in colleges
On 1/25/12, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I hope you noted that I mentioned the exceptions to the rule. Kumaran and Benedict are among the 15 people I mentioned. -- Yes, I know that people like you are aware of the exceptions. May be 15 in your case, and 50 in my case. I just wanted the members to be a bit more inclusive regarding the staff. I am also trying to figure out how to bring the 50 FOSS specialists to lend their services to other colleges, given the various hangups and other avoidable/unavoidable handicaps. I am sure Coimbatore Glug should be a good forum, since the colleges there had joined together in many activities like common recruitment melas, etc. When Raman, Parthan and I had gone 5-6 years back to Sri Ramakrishna Engg College to conduct a FOSS workshop for their students, we requested them to arrange a separate (parallel) session for HoDs/Sr. Lecturers from other colleges to create FOSS awareness. SREC was able to arrange one. [By the way, you might have got an invite from Prof Madhumathi of that college to inaugurate their FOSS club]. Srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Wins Over Windows In Tamil Nadu
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: Great victory , lets help BOSS meet its expectations :) thanks for the news item and the help offers/wishes. initially, the BOSS team members are working with the Dept of IT, and then spread out to other depts -- Agri, Forest, etc., Of course, one needs patience, and catch in-house Open Source enthusiasts from each dept. NRCFOSS/CDAC/BOSS is planning a mini workshop with about 20-30 participants from engg colleges (staff/students) and ILUG membes -- to discuss about BOSS community portal, maintenance, participation by members for FOSS/BOSS support, etc., Since exams are on, am checking up with them to fix a convenient date (preferably sometime next week). will update you as to the progress. Srinivasan. NRCFOSS/BOSS, CDAC, Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/31 రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ nani1o...@gmail.com Can we do anything for this? http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Yes, You can send an email to Dr. Santhosh babu IAS chairman of ELCOT. The contact numbers and email addresses are here in this document http://elcot.in/pdf/ELCOT%20RTI%20ACT%202005.pdf feel free :-) Dr. Santosh Babu is now IT Secretary. Srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Distro
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: Also, for privacy reasons, many people including me might be hesitant to give postal address. Is there a place where one could get a copy of BOSS Linux ? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc you could contact the nearest cdac centre -- chennai, trivandrum, hyderabad, mumbai, kolkata, hyderabad, noida, new delhi, mohali. srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Distro
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: Also, for privacy reasons, many people including me might be hesitant to give postal address. Is there a place where one could get a copy of BOSS Linux ? http://bosslinux.in/downloads . My question was in relation to the Vendors tab they have on the website.. And, Since BOSS Linux DVDs are mailed home for free, I was just wondering if they have a list of places in chennai where one could collect it. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc at cdac office -- D block north, TIDEL Park, 4 Rajiv Gandhi Salai, Taramani srinivasan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Distro
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:44 PM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: Did anyone try BOSS Linux IMNSHO it is crap. you could check the latest version 4.0. i would, however, suggest that yoy give your postal address and ask for a copy. you can send a mail to bossli...@cdac.in or to my id srinivas...@cdac.in as of now, the crap has been used (a) to generate photo i-cards by tripura electoral commission -- gimp on boss platform was the alternative chosen for ms photoshop in 400 plus desktops used by at least twice the no of operators/govt staff. training, implementation, usage and final delivery were done in 2 1/2 months, thanks to support from Tripura IT Directorate and some of their enthusiastic members. (b) in 130 plus desktops in BSNL Hyderabad who floated a tender for linux compatible desktops, opting for BOSS compatibility certification. The vendor may not be keen on resolving driver and related issues, but cdac hyd and the active/knowledgeable in-house team are working together to ensure sustained operations. (c) other installations include Indian Navy, some of the NIC centres, etc., issues arise -- work is being done on getting them resolved. srinivasan cdac chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] About Fossis
dear vivek On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:50 AM, vivek r vividvi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, FOSSIS - Forum for Open Source Software and Information security is a user group / club started by the students of our university. all the best for your efforts. hope you involve the juniors students from different branches so that sustainability is ensured. i wish you could have put Kalasilingam University instead of our university. of course the reader can go to the link and find out where you are from, but i would feel it is a good practice to give brief comprehensive info in the main message. it will also spur students from other instituitions who casually look at the mails to become a bit more active. with best wishes Srinivasan nrcfoss/cdac ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Server SetUp in My School
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Kumaran R kuma...@techie.com wrote: Dear all, Today, I have installed CentOS in a Xeon server for my school (Bhavan's Rajaji Vidyashram) for running a PHP application. I also had a good discussion with my IP (Informatics Practices) teacher about implementing Linux in all the servers. I presume you may be aware that the CBSE Computer Science/IT syllabus has been made vendor neutral. There were some training programs conducted in this respect -- which your IT teacher might have attended. CDAC participated in the master training program (held in Delhi) and is now interacting with CBSE re IT enablement for science, maths and social sciences. could you please give the contact details -- yourself and IT teacher -- so that we could discuss further re CDAC activities in this regard. you could respond to my cdac id : srinivas...@cdac.in thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. Project Scientist CDAC Chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] List of 74 Indian Colleges from Indian where we have GNU/Linux Users and FOSS activities
bhaskar, linux expert systems, should be able to add many more colleges -- especially the ones where he had set up FOSS Labs and/or conducted FOSS programs. i am also compiling a list -- though it has slightly different entries, with lecturer focus than student contact. will get back to you, i hope, within a week or ten days. with best wishes Srinivasan. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar benignb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I have a good network over colleges and students all over India. But this list must be small and many colleges will be missing. Please add Thiagarajar College of Engineering[1], I will add ! Wait for 6-7 days for revised version of this document ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] List of 74 Indian Colleges from Indian where we have GNU/Linux Users and FOSS activities
sorry for the error. normally, i interleave the response or delete the old stuff. this time, missed the deletion. srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM, ganessh kumar rp rpganesshku...@gmail.com wrote: thank u magesh.. ill do that . hi jaganadh . im from ramanathapuram cbe and im studying in Amrita college . is there any active ILUG-CBE . i searched and got two such groups but they are inactive for more than two years. if none is active now we can start it .. thank you am not sure which dept you are from (may be, missed the early mails). there was a LUG group two years back and your IT dept uses FOSS extensively (and planning to evolve a fully-FOSS based paper). have you checked, e.g., with prof adinarayanan of that dept? I also understand that Mr.Ajai Narendran, web content manager at Amrita and active FOSS user/supporter, had created Vidya the 4TB information repository and digital library at Amrita. Srinivasan. CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:02 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: If enough people are there and any body willing to give some space we can have mmonthly meeting Coimbatore colleges -- especially the self-financing engg colleges -- have a positive reputation of working in collaboration, e.g., they were among the first to have common recruitment melas. While the meet could be rotated amongst colleges, it may be preferable to have an apex institution to fall back on. some suggestions : Sri Krishna College of Engg Tech. , contact : Dr. Ilango Krishnamurthy, Dean, CSE, ilango dot krishnamurthy at gmail dot com-- kenneth had interacted with him and conducted a programme or two. Dr. M. Tamizh Chelvan, Librarian tamizhchelvan at hotmail dot com I was once told that the Correspondent of the college is very knowledgeable about FOSS and suggests/recommends looking various FOSS packages. Amritha Vishwavidhyalay as I mentioned in my earlier mail, Prof Adhinarayan could be approached and also his HoD Prof Gangadharan. There are other institutions such as PSG Tech, CIT, Sri Ramakrishna College of Engg, etc. -- but I am not quite sure about the connect between the student activists and the dept persons. with best wishes Srinivasan. CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Octave for control systems
hi all: got some queries regarding the capability of Octave vis-a-vis Matlab, especially re Control Systems applications. would like to get in touch with those working with Octave (espcially Chennai and nearby) to get info on their experience in practical implementations. please contact me at srini...@gmail.com or srinivas...@cdac.in thanks srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist NRCFOSS/BOSS CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [JOB] Urgent requirement for System Developer - Linux with One the leading MNC at B'lore
got the following info in one of my mails. those interested could contact the recruiter directly. with best wishes, srinivasan -- from : hi...@dcspl.com hi...@dcspl.com We are pleased to introduce ourselves as a fast growing recruitment consultancy firm engaged in the recruitment of senior middle management level positions in India as well as abroad. One of our esteemed client is One of the leading MNC from Denmark. Designation: System Developer – Linux – Open Source Location: B' lore - Whitefield Salary: Depends of current package. Job Profile: You will join a dynamic team with responsibility which support, maintains and customizes on some mains central systems in RD, as the electronic notebook, the project management system, and share point sites according to the needs of our employees in the RD organization. Challenges Your focus area will be system development for handling of DNA and protein sequences from a huge amount of public and in-house genomes. The applications are preferably presented over the Intra web using modern web development technologies. You will receive the needed education for gaining knowledge about the relevant systems from the team in Denmark. You will be located in the IT APPLICATION SERVICES department in Bangalore. In your daily work you will be tightly connected to the RD Data Management department in Denmark. Travels and short stays in Denmark for training are part of the job. Please mention year of Exp in following Skills: Qualifications Proven record of software development skills, preferable by patch-submission/engagement in public Open Source projects – Yes/No: General understanding of software development tools, VCS (subversion), SQL (PostgreSQL/MySQL) – Yes/No: General understanding of the Open Source eco-system, how to engage and solve problems – Yes/No: Excellent Perl development skills (DBIx::Class, Catalyst) - – Yes/No: General understanding of web-development (XHTML, CSS, JavaScript) - – Yes/No: Knowledge about C, make, bash and general Linux System administration (Ubuntu Linux) - – Yes/No: Preferably you have knowledge of bio-informatics – Yes/No: Education: Graduate with Computer or IT degree. So please forward me your updated resume as soon as possible. If any of your friend/relative/associate is interested, kindly forward the latest resume in MS word format, as an attachment to hi...@dcspl.com Do mention your present as well as the expected salary (Cost to the Company). Wishing you all the best in your quest for getting a better job opportunity. With warm regards, Hiren Makvana c/o Dhruv Counseling Services 5 A/1, 5th Floor, Arjun Tower, Nr. Chiripal House, Shivranjani Cross Roads, Satellite, Ahmedabad 380015 Direct : 91-79-66057134 Board : 91-79-66057111 Fax : 91-79-26761520 E-mail: hi...@dcspl.com Visit us at www.dcspl.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] CDAC BOSS Team interactions with some ILUG-C members (on 12th aug)
Dear friends: I had invited a few of the ILUGC members for an interaction session with BOSS Team at CDAC Chennai and the meeting was held yesterday (thursday 12th aug 2010) 4:00 p.m. My basic objective was to expose my colleagues to the favor of LUG members (their expertise and experience) and expose the LUG team as to what is happening at BOSS centre ; discuss briefly about BOSS 4.0 development / testing and ways to broadbase the community involvement. I thank the members * who visited us and shared their views, and gave their valuable suggestions. [* Ma Sivakumar, Raji Seetharaman, Raman, Srinivasan, Sri Ramadoss Vijayakumar -- have i got the list right?] Queries/Suggestions/ Discussions during the meeting: ?? BOSS Download : packages source, and user manual could be downloaded from bosslinux portal ?? BOSS content vis-a-vis Debian/Ubuntu, etc. : suitable documentations are in the offing ; inputs from BOSS team and from agencies we interact with will be suitably demarcated in the repository (to enable testing/adaptation/enhancement) ?? BOSS repository, access to portal, etc.: after shifting to the new premises (at TIDEL Park), the setup and portal revamp is on to enable external access (initially with commit restricted to inhouse group). Some wiki pages, tracking mechanisms are being activated. The version control (subversion) mechanism currently active in a limited manner is being reworked. ** NRCFOSS portal (http://nrcfoss.org.in) redesigned to include pages on FOSS packages, resource persons, etc. ** Student projects : the portal could provide a platform for project related interactions uploads. The colleges could be asked to take the responsibility of monitoring the students while CDAC/NRCFOSS could provide the organizational stamp (issuing certificates) and enable community experts to contribute. [The LUG members also participated in the discussion we were having with a set of Professors from Colleges -- inviting the colleges to come up with suggestions for a committed plan of action] ** Involvement of BOSS team in LUG activities : some members are already in the LUG ; a few of the BOSS team members (e.g., from Bengaluru - Open Office, Mumbai - Orca) are part of the FOSS groups related to the packages they work on ; sharing queries/responses, participation in LUG events, etc., will be taken up I hope this will kindle more cohesive interactions with useful contributions/responses from NRCFOSS/BOSS team. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist NRCFOSS/BOSS CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] a note on BOSS
dear friends : am adding some brief info about BOSS and allied activities at CDAC. Srinivasan. NRCFOSS/BOSS CDAC. --- A brief note on BOSS and related activities: As part of NRCFOSS project CDAC Chennai had brought out Bharat Operating System Solutions (BOSS),-- BOSS GNU/Linux -- derived from Debian with some add on packages such as Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, apart from a suitable version of grub installer. EduBOSS, an educational variant (including the EduBOSS Tamil released at Semmozhi Maanadu) and a server version have also been generated. BOSS DVDs have been distributed and a Help Desk facility has been set up to respond to queries, besides access to BOSS portal : http://bosslinux.in (includes discussion forum, faq, download, etc.). We expect to release BOSS 4.0 in a couple of months. With the help of BOSS Support Team (at various CDAC Centres across the country), the interactions have been on with various agencies, primarily govt departments (as one could understand). Tieups with agencies like NIC, ELCOT have been taken up -- some of the active measures include : BOSS installations at Palakkad Dist to run land record system (supporting the NIC team); CHIPS, Chattisgarh ; installation at ISRO NIC Bengaluru ; training installation for some of the Navy units ; training and support for BSNL Hyderabad ; installation in various schools in Punjab under Sarva Shiksha Abhigyan program, etc. Under BOSS Vendor Certification Program, BOSS Compliance Certificates are issued to systems / devices working on BOSS platform. The initial efforts had been more on creating awareness, especially amongst govt and allied agencies as a fellow govt body, and responding to deployment related queries from agencies / users who were willing to use the BOSS platform. Some workshops have been organized and BOSS team also visits potential user institutions (e.g., govt depts, agencies, etc.) for presentations and interactions. As the acceptance of Linux and FOSS has grown considerably, now the focus should be more on applications that run on the platform, availability of device drivers, etc. -- i.e. FOSS promotion and deployment. URLs: http://nrcfoss.org.in main NRCFOSS portal and allied pages such as: http://www.nrcfoss.org.in/repository for FOSS packages (especially developed/deployed in India) http://www.nrcfoss.org.in/hrd academic initiatives ; info on FOSS resource persons (info invited from community), news, etc. http://bosslinux.in boss linux portal http://bosslinux.in/downloads image, source, manual etc. of BOSS versions http://bosslinux.in/documentation includes FAQ, Wiki, discussion forums, etc. Help Desk : 1 800 4250 455 (10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on working days, in english, hindi, tamil, malayalam, kannada and telugu) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: Does BOSS has a mailing list? The links at http://bosslinux.in/join-us/cdac/join-us/boss-suport are not working. thanks for pointing out the missing links. since some revamp work is on, some of the links are unavailable (some structural changes are also being planned). however, we are keeping forums active where boss teams members could give their response. Please register and send your queries thru : http://forums.bosslinux.in/ Srinivasan CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ -Satya satya: could you indicate the menu/path thru which you got to this link? thanks, srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Hi, Just curious, Does boss source is open?... i mean , is the source code is available in any hosted repos?. if so, can any one point me the url. Last year there was a discussion on the seeking source of boss at ilug-delhi. read more: http://www.mail-archive.com/il...@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg25368.html. Is the source code is open and available? any pointers on the url is appreciated. please visit : http://bosslinux.in/downloads and the links therein for different versions, e.g., http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/tejas/ -- for Tejas version http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/tejas/main/ -- will lead to the index of packages and from thereon to individual package source related files. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ First i landed on this page this page http://www.mit.gov.in/content/free-and-open-source-software , by searching open source on the MIT website , then the next link in the search was http://www.mit.gov.in/content/open-technology-centre from where i tried reaching to https://portal.otc.nic.in/ the portal link has changed. i think the (original / changed) link was being accessible within the nic. anyway, the otc/nic guy i spoke to said he will update the details in the mit page. regards srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. Hi Thyagarajan, BOSS is not an application to compile it from source/scratch. BOSS is an operating system, it has a kernel, applications like pidgin/open office/vlc etc. What i believe BOSS guys are doing is, packaging these applications and releasing it as an operating system. If you want to see the source code of vlc and compile it from scratch/source you can very well do it from the resources available at http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/savir/main/v/vlc/ What BOSS folks don't have is a public account,package,build,update system where people can contribute. In Fedora we have these infrastructure installed and ready for people's contribution. I hope BOSS folks build this infrastructure soon to enable community contribution. thank you arun for putting things in perspective. let me also use this msg to comment on roshan's response to thyagu: since some of us from boss team are in the ILUGC list, and this thread has been started by me as part of our interaction/community building exercise, thyagu has reason to expect that the response to his query could come thru this channel. regards, srinivasan. cdac chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Software Freedom Day 2010 at Birla Planetarium
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:20 AM, baskar k baskar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:39 AM, dinesh kumar stardi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, we are celebrating software freedom day. at our college on sept 18th and you could do your demonstration at our college campus. E.S college of engineering and technology, Chennai trunk road, villupuram 605602. contact: 9952741113 My suggestion would be instead of celebrating separately at your college you can put a stall at Birla planetarium. not many colleges may have persons/resources/materials to set up stall. they could provide volunteers to support the stalls set up by others. the suggestion could be apart from celebrating at your college, join us at Birla planetarium. those who could organize lectures / demos effectively in their own colleges could go ahead with their celebrations and also send a few of their members to join the Birla Planetarium fest. other colleges could organize a brief session prior to the event (say during 10 - 16 sep) to create an awareness about FOSS and Software Freedom Day, and invite the students to Birla planetarium events (slogan such as :Be Free and Be at Birla ?) Srinivasan NRCFOSS/BOSS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Anna University Syllabus and NRCFOSS
dear friends: FOSS propagation has multiple aspects. While many of the active LUG members would like to have correct FOSS inducted in correct manner, the ground realities have to be taken into account. At the outset, FOSS cannot be a subject in the strict curriculum sense. The concept of knowledge sharing, collaborative work (which were once hallmark points in academia and research) have yielded to the pressure of scoring marks, getting projects ... FOSS awareness could bring back the good values! Specifically, if we think of engineering curricula, FOSS concepts (collaborative development) could be the focus for CSE/IT, while ECE/MECH and other branches could concentrate on using contributing to FOSS alternatives for the proprietary they use. Biotechnology (esp in Arts Science colleges) uses open sources heavily -- Linux, Python are regular papers for their Masters programmes. The universities also have their own norms -- in anna univ, a new subject had to be introduced as elective (theory!!) and then could grow. the rule might be getting changed now. Anna Univ Coimbatore has introduced FOSS as core paper. If you think 45 hrs / theory (or practical) etc., restrictions is ridiculous teach FOSS, please remember that the restrictions are also hampering many other subjects. There is (hopefully was) a rule that a theory subject should have one specified textbook (at most two). We had 1 hour discussion in a syllabus committee meeting that this is ridiculous for subjects like software practices, software testing, etc. What NRCFOSS (and various academicians) are trying is to breach the proprietary wall in whichever reasonable way possible -- i hope we realise that the awareness level in 2004-05 was much less compared to what is now. My suggestion : let us continue to introduce subjects in the curriculum subject to university norms, introduce FOSS alternatives in labs, draw the students towards FOSS usage/projects, try to remove the restrictive clauses like only specific software should be used, and be ready to take advantage of the changing scenarios. Often, it may be the local professor/lecturer/student groups who will have to brave the scenario, and FOSS community / NRCFOSS related agencies should be willing to pitch in. I apologise for the long msg and let me conclude with the example of Jaya Engg College : when they introduced FOSS elective in 2005-06, the official notification had not come, but university authorities with backup from NRCFOSS took care of the admin aspects ; AU-KBC ( CDAC) to certain extent, and ILUGC members in great measures ensured that their FOSS club activities flourished. Their students did well in exams and some of them also contributed to the FOSS repository. Of course, the backbone was Prof Kumaran ably supported by his enthusiastic band of students and staff (lab sessions to teach the theory paper, migrating to FOSS alternatives in some the labs, etc.). Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist NRCFOSS/BOSS CDAC Chennai (formerly with AU-KBC) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Re: [Ilugc] Anna University Syllabus and NRCFOSS
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, prakash srinivasan asprakash...@rediffmail.com wrote: If it is possible, you may provide more info here about who are the other institutions, AUKBC-NRCFOSS role, Other's role, current structure of NRCFOSS,.etc. So that they can understand the complete structure/processes and avoid the controversies in future anything relevant to NRCFOSS. Hope your infos may stop the controversy between LUGGIES and NRCFOSS. You could visit : http://nrcfoss.org.in and click on the constituent sites (AU-KBC, IIT Madras, etc.) to get to their respective links. Srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] FOSS in Indian University curricula
dear friends : as you might be aware, NRCFOSS worked with Anna Univ to get two FOSS electives in the curriculum since 2006. So far, about 3000 students have taken the courses successfully in B.E. (Comp Science), B.Tech (Information Technology) and MCA. Anna Univ Coimbatore will be having FOSS as core paper in 3rd in B.E., an offshoot of this exercise was to get institutions like Jaya Engg College which -- thanks to the sustained support from LUG other FOSS enthusiasts -- have made greater impact on the growth of FOSS. FOSS electives have been approved in Shivaji University, Kolhapur Rajasthan Tech Univ. Final year B.E. CSE Networking labs in UP Tech Univ are tuned to run on FOSS platform. Punjab Tech Univ a host of others are in the process of introducing FOSS. FOSS subjects -- especially Linux, Python -- have also found their way into the non-engg currirula, especially Biotechnology. Of course, many colleges/univ have got linux as one of the papers (some time a regular one, often for a term or so depending on the efforts enthusiasm of the concerned staff member). I would appreciate if you could send me the copies of / links to FOSS subject offered in the curricula. I also welcome related suggestion / queries. As part of my official duty at NRCFOSS, the syllabus info will be updated in the NRCFOSS portal HRD page ; we have also been involvin local FOSS community as and when efforts are made to interact with the various academic entities. the info can be sent to* : srinivas...@cdac.inand/orsrini.it@ gmail.com thanks and best wishes Srinivasan * CDAC Chennai is moving into new premises inside Tidel Park. Hence the NRCFOSS / BOSS portals are down. Once they are activated, I will update the available info in the HRD page, and send the link thru the LUG group mail. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Carte Blanche - Computer Society of MIT
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:58 AM, sivakumar bharadhwaj calms...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Mr. kapil, 1. *showing them how to instal* I feel one of the stumbling blocks for installing linux (atleast for an average, regulat XP user, who has never installed anything on his own - they form atleast 40 % of the users ) particularly the partitioning, the initial setting up, the user groups, the authentication, the updating, the different desktop (gnome, kde) and dual booting. in the TN govt depts where are trying to make a foray, the percentage is 90 (if not more)! 6. I have already been talking to Mr. srinivasan, verole, - CDAC, on the BOSS, eduBOSS. hope they can also participate in this, and help NEW people. will be a pleasure (not to speak of official mandate!). Srinivasan NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] discussions on tamil translation
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Vinod Parthasarathy vinnytrycl...@gmail.com wrote: 2 To me, depending on the context where I would find this sentence, the english translation varies. Assuming this sentence is in the context of a directory-file structure in a running operating system, I would translate it as follows: Copy in the temporary space provided for selected files. தேர்ந்தெடுக்கப்பட்ட பொருட்களை ஒட்டுவதற்கான தற்காலிக இடத்தில் நகலெடுக்கவும் the translation could be copy the selected files in the temporary space provided for நகலெடுக்கவும் -- தேர்ந்தெடுக்கப்பட்ட பொருட்களை -- ஒட்டுவதற்கான தற்காலிக இடத்தில் Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] NRCFOSS stall at SFD
dear friends : NRCFOSS team would like to set up a stall. Focus will be on EduBOSS (the school version of BOSS including subject contents), some of the eGov related applications (especially with localisation rural deployment implications). We also look forward to interactions with the visitors (especially students) regarding FOSS project related activities. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan Project Scientist, C-DAC ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] NRCFOSS stall at SFD
2009/9/14 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Hi Friends, dear friends : NRCFOSS team would like to set up a stall. Focus will be on EduBOSS (the school version of BOSS including subject contents), some of the eGov related applications (especially with localisation rural deployment implications). We also look forward to interactions with the visitors (especially students) regarding FOSS project related activities. I would like to retire from the organizing committee. At personal level i am not convinced with the above content. Thanks and regards, the operative word is would like to set up a stall, and NOT will be setting up a stall. if the contents do not meet the overall focus of the event, the request can (and possibly, should) be declined thanks, srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] NRCFOSS stall at SFD
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:27 PM, balachandar muruganantham mbchan...@gmail.com wrote: srini, can you point to some information about EduBOSS? i cannot find in bosslinux.in site. I have used edubuntu. is it similar? EduBOSS is yet to be released. It contains a subset of applications which are also found in Debian / EdUbuntu, but also has other applications -- taken from Sourceforge, etc. -- which have been bundled together. So far, the emphasis has been on applications of relevance upto 8th standard or so in our (state baord / cbse etc.) curriculum. The BOSS and NRCFOSS portals are being revamped -- and EduBOSS (in its current state) will be ported for study/enhancement/comment by interested members. [For instance, Oscar developed at IIT Mumbai is very useful for school children -- but some work need to be done to make it work on BOSS platform. It could, as a followup or in an independent manner, could also be ported to run on other distro]. srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Re: [Ilugc] do you need a CMS?
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Prem Kurian Philip p...@songbirdtech.comwrote: From: Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com I understand that the shift to plone (from mambo) was because of the better (portal)user - friendly features. My experience with Drupal, Joomla and Plone: Both Joomla and Drupal have vibrant user communities and lot of resources on the web. Both are easy to learn and use. Many shared hosting services provide security updates to Drupal and Joomla installations on their servers as and added service at no cost. Plone - . will require a VPS or a dedicated server. It requires quite a bit of memory to run properly. Very powerful. Very flexible. Not easy to learn and ... configure. . Also, you won't find as many developers comfortable with Plone. thanks for sharing your thoughts. may i infer that it is easier for the user(developer) to set up a drupal / joomla based CMS -- thus a typical FOSS community contributor group can use this platform. Plone possibly needs a resource-rich service provider. Any significant feature variation as regards to the average user (who may have very little FOSS exposure) who wants to access the system, use and contribute to the contents ? srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Software Freedom Day celebrations
hi all: apart from the ILUG-C event at Birla Planetarium on 19th, a number of events are being organized at various colleges and other institutions as part of Software Freedom Day celebrations. [Jaya FOSS Club in Chennai, Sona Tech in Salem, CSI-CDAC Chennai session for school teachers, to name a few.] may i request the members of this list to send me the event info and links thereof, so that a list could be made available. I am sure kenneth will agree with me that the full list could be given at nrcfoss helpline events page and suitable links given at other sites. the info can be send to my email ids : srinivasans at cdac dot in or srinivasan at au-kbc dot org thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] help in data mining
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM, PalaniKannan K kpalanikan...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I need suggestions and help from you .. I have four different online bioinformatics web servers eg. BLAST, PFAM, COG, PRODOM (Online database servers) I need to send same query to four servers and fetch the results of four servers ... Because i have lot number of queries, i cant do it as single operations as manual... it should be automated what happened to the Bioinfotracker? Are you looking for alternatives or enhancements? Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Foss becomes mandatory in Anna University Coimbatore
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: we have already done several workshops for teachers in the coimbatore region. We find them far more motivated and interested than teachers of other regions in Tamilnadu. -- coimbatore academic culture is quite live and the colleges often act in collaboration. but the interest and motivation are in other regions also -- especially tirunelveli and kanyakumari/nagerkoil. may be, it is time to take this up. srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [Ambassadors] Event in SRM
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Bharathi Subramanian sbhara...@midascomm.com wrote: One SRM student atteneted this month meet and I requested him to get more info about this event. I hope, I may get some info by this week end. Do you have the mail id of Dinesh? Dinesh had made a posting in ILUGC: *[Ilugc] Linux Install Fest @ SRM University* His details: din...@cyanam.net Dinesh Cyanam Coordinator - Linux Install Fest 9884397154 with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [Ambassadors] Event in SRM
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.comwrote: FYI! -- Forwarded message -- From: Salvadesswaran P.S. salvadesswa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:44:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event in SRM To: fedora-ambassadors-l...@redhat.com, fedora-in...@redhat.com Hi, I got a mail from a student in SRM asking for help regarding an event in his college tech fest: Yesterday I had addressed a group of 2nd and 3rd year CSE students at SRM. I enquired about this event -- as expected there was not much knowledge. Can Dinesh and Bharathi Subramanian work out what could be done? We could provide training/guidance from ILUG-C, and Bharathi I could see what could be done from NRCFOSS end. Since I also had a brief meeting with their Asst Director and some of the HoDs, I could alert them as well. Srinivasan. Project Scientist, C-DAC 94443 02439 ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] anna univ affliated curriculum does not allow to do 5th sem proje in OpenSource, need help
hi all: while there is considerable resistance from HoDs and other staff members re FOSS projects, there have been a number of projects done in the past three years. I have been requesting the students / staff to give me brief details, but the response has been sparse and sporadic. i think it is very likely that most of these students (especially from Anna Univ affiliated colleges) would be members of this list. if they could gather info from them, we could use the info for furthering the cause of FOSS projects in colleges. to start with, the student(s) could send the following info: a) title of the project b) student info -- name, reg no, branch, year c) foss tool(s) used d) brief abstract status -- completed / partial / simulated ... e) weblinks -- if they have uploaded the details the info could be sent to nrcfoss at au-kbc dot in and/or to my office id srinivasan at cdac dot in. i can work along with bharati and colleagues at au-kbc colleagues to get the info collated and sorted. am taking this au-kbc route, since this could part of the nrcfoss activity. the summary info could be highlighted thru nrcfoss and ilug-c portals. we could follow this up with (a) gettting more info about the project work, check and arrange for demo of successful projects (b) interacting with them to work out the strategy for making it easier to do foss projects -- including getting the colleges to agree, etc. if possible, we could have a demo on select projects on the software freedom day, may even give prizes for the top three or so ; more importantly, announce that FOSS projects to be done during 2009-10 even sem will get support from us ; ILUG-C in collaboration with NRCFOSS will evaluate the projects ; selected ones will be put on demo (in may/june 2010?) and prizes / certificates offered from nrcfoss. While ILUG-C could focus on TN colleges, other groups could get this going in their respective states. Srinivasan. On 8/7/09, senthilraja P technocr...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/8/09, Arulalan T tarula...@gmail.com wrote: Hi to all, I planned to do all the following syllabus projects using Ruby On Rails . But my Staffs are not supporting to do this semester projects in other Languages. I just wanted to share, that a team of final year students from Mahendra engg college had done their final year projects in RoR. They created a project in rubyforge, for this, and uploaded their files in the SVN. http://rubyforge.org/projects/eduerp/ They too had faced the same kind of issue, and after some level of patient explanation, their HOD accepted it. The project was NOT a hi-fi one, but just an attempt to develop a web-based ERP software for their college. They could only develop a basic prototype version, and submitted it for their final year project. The advantage they had over others is that, they were able to explain in detail about RoR, their project, how they did it, and other technology they used like SVN etc, while other students who purchased could not do so. So, considering the immense support from this ILUGC group, i feel, you should be able to persuade your HOD to allow you. Regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] final year project
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.comwrote: I should have been more specific. If implementation-wise they are different (if the developer sees a reason for it), it is ok. Otherwise, they would all be the same. 1. If someone wants to know how to write a text editor, the power of F/OSS gives them the source code to see how it is done. By tinkering (prints, changing, testing) the code, they will learn how it has been done. For the student it is a project. For some (possibly many) of us, it is just an exercise of old examples. If we agree to this mindset, we can get a wide spectrum of students to do projects. after a while, we could suggest that do this project/exercise for a while, and get into some (acceptable) project mode as soon as possible. contributing to existing project needs time to learn, and it can be taken up only by a handful of college students. in fact, such students would have been into FOSS for quite some time. if we have to broadbase FOSS among students, we may to reinvent wheel umpteen times. of course, we could put a codicil: we will help you if you help us with getting some testing/documentation done with an existing project of interest to me. Srinivasan. NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Project idea: Integrating a compiler as a plugin for browser.
hi all: a group of students from PSG Tech (guided internally by one of their lecturers) are interested in working on an open source project on Integrating a compiler as a plugin for an open source browser. the plan is to start some preliminary studies / learning of tools / works over the next few months, and develop into a full project during even semester. anybody interested in being active/passive mentor? [If you have serious comments about the feasibility, please do alert me]. srinivasan. project scientist, c-dac chennai. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Project idea: Integrating a compiler as a plugin for browser.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: open source browser is Firefox or Chrome, right? yes, at least to begin with. compiler is something which goes down to machine code? yes. This sounds interesting (has all the cool keywords to trigger interest) I felt that there will be some interest. Let me add some explanation (or is it a disclaimer?) many of us do get queries from students / staff expressing interest to work in open source. quite often, they just seek some topics to work on and some times they get hold of topics (as Roshan mentioned) with cool keywords. since my interactions are mostly with novices, I tend to do some checkup, get some preliminary info and then ask the requestor to do more search / study to get some concrete idea. then we could guide them re things to learn, etc. More often than not, we may have to shift them away from the original idea. this time, i posted in the group -- since i am also trying to ask and answer questions : what purpose and what is being attempted? If there is some quick positive response, we can get them going. otherwise, we can guide them differently. thanks for all you time, srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, LinuXpert Academy supp...@linuxpertacademy.com wrote: Does NRC-FOSS commercially providing the setup for institutions alongwith the hardware box or has any institutions already using your foss lab server. just require for information purpose only. S. Baskar dear baskar: i am curious about your queries -- it looks as though you are absolutely unaware of FOSS Lab Server from NRCFOSS. FOSS Lab Server was demonstrated at FOSS.IN 2006, and later set up at a few colleges by NRCFOSS team. Mr. Abhas Abhinav of Deep Root had set it up in some more places. The info about FOSS Lab Server had been put up in nrcfoss official web site and helpline website. For the past six months, I have been discussing with you and a few others about offering to the colleges in an effective manner and providing necessary support services. In fact, I had clarified to you that while Abhas was involved in the developement, he was not expected to be the sole service provider. I do hope that you can fix up with Prof CNK to meet him and to discuss -- primarily about your interest in associating with NRCFOSS re interactions with academic institutions, and could also discuss about your views re FOSS Lab Server. with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: The first and third para from Srinivasan sir reply, it clearly shows that Mr.Baskar have lots of controversies from his words..:( - dear prakash: Baskar has come up with a version of FOSS Lab Server -- as he felt that the colleges has a need for it. He had also asked me about NRCFOSS FOSS electives and I presume he had picked up the info from the relevant web pages. Just as there are many linux distros, some of us could come up with different ways of providing material to colleges. Of course, the perspective might differ. the one thing we have in common with him is the understanding that download from net may not be viable option at many places. we are working in the realm of free/open source software. anybody could build afresh or from existing material. from my point of view, the USP of Baskar is that he could reach out to colleges. In fact, we had briefly discussed about how NRCFOSS could support his visits. Since we have been in a transition stage, the discussions were ongoing and I suggested that he should also meet up with Prof CNK. [the fact that I was moving off to C-DAC was also a minor factor]. we have to seek collaboration, not collision. with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OSI Days Event
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Bharathi Subramanian sbhara...@midascomm.com wrote: OSI Days organizers are also looking for students volunteers to help the visitor. Interested students can contact: atanu.datta at gmail they are also keen to have students / staff to attend the sessions. some of you might have registered and got passes on individual basis. however, you could come as a group -- ask your staff member to send a mail to the organizer with the list of student names (and possibly the sessions / time you would like to attend). When you reach the venue, the group will be given the necessary passes so that they could attend the sessions. They feel, the sessions on FOSS for everyone should be of interest -- not just CSE/IT, but stduents from all branches of engg., science, etc. Srinivasan. NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/4/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: I dont like to stop this thread just like that. Upto my knowledge, there is a person can possibly stop this thread with +ve conclusion here - Mr.Bharathi. enough of this I think. Bharathi had already said STOP. Don't reply to this thread. [sorry Bharathi: my reply to Prashan was sent -- after you msg, and the thread has gone on]. Srinivasan, NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
hi all: please excuse me for responding to a mail which has no connection to the current thread. On 3/3/09, Common Man kilpauk.kandasw...@gmail.com wrote: Plz can someone tell me where can I get BOSS DVD's.I don't know where else to ask? dear friend: 0. am not sure how much you are into FOSS and how much knowledgeable you are about mailing group etiquettes. before you are flamed about trying to hijack a thread (unless somebody had already done so), please allow me to make a few comments : 1. you could have started a new mail thread -- request for BOSS DVD. 2. I am often told that BOSS (and its originator C-DAC) are not exactly in the good books of many of LUG and FOSS members. 3. anyway, you could have done a google search (or even now search for CDAC or visit http://nrcfoss.org.in ) and get to know what you want (hence my comment '0' above). 4. of course, I can give you the possible contact point, but I am not giving it in this mail for two reasons a) i hope you will be careful in future about hijacking threads -- apart from the emotions involved, there is a practical aspect : people who could have answered might have missed the mail because of wrong header. b) i can give you a better answer if you let me know which is your geographical location. please send a mail to srini DOT it AT gmail DOT com so that I can respond to you. with best wishes, Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Srinivasan Soundrarajan So i can expect some facts as well to http://annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.htmlfrom your NRCFOSS capacity , open discussion in this mail. Since the attitude (especially in the current thread) seems to be We the LUG againt You the NRCFOSS, I don't think it make sense for me to open discussion in my NRCFOSS capacity. The thread could well be named *nrcfoss - negative side* instead of* **fossconf-09-negative side*. I don't think the vociferous members have understood the feelings of Prakash and others who happen to be working at NRCFOSS. If they come out of NRCFOSS, will they become purified? I disagree with Raman : simply being a volunteer doesn't absolve one from the responsibilities nor does working for an organization funded by tax payers (sic) thrusts a load of absolute responsibilities on the individual. In reality, it depends on the individual, his/her status / involvement in the organisation and other related factors. A faux pas by Raman or Thiagarajan will have more adverse impact on the perception about Chennai LUG than an ordinary LUG member -- though all of them are only volunteers. Some (of I hope not many) will also be looking askance at me -- not only I am from NRCFOSS, I am now going off from AU-KBC to join C-DAC Chennai. Does it going to change my attitude towards FOSS? It might, of course, have an impact on the type of FOSS activities I undertake. However, by the tone of the exchanges in this group, I shouldn't be surprised if I become an outcast in the eyes of some of you -- not that the number was non-zero. (do we remember Prashant Mohan, GoSc ?). Not that I claim to be in their league, but we have many active members contributing to FOSS who have jobs at proprietary companies. ARUN , myself and many others here are seeking an answer, for our knowledge sake , please dont throw this mail because of the anonimity of the author credentials... In response to the blog, Kenneth had given a msg on behalf of Prof CNK -- which you guys don't seem to care much about. Some of the points -- I had raised before joining NRCFOSS (when I knew pretty litle about FOSS). But you seem to think that NRCFOSS is a wizard who could change things by a wave of wand. I do have some comments and suggestions, and even queries -- will put them out in a day or two (before I take up my new posting!!!). with best wishes, Srinivasan, NRCFOSS ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net
On 3/3/09, ashok samrat samrat.asho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, IMHO most of the curriculum offered as FOSS is counter productive based on a outdated syllabus.It didnt help in moving people to Linux and for even people who were introduced to Linux it was tiresome. The elective mode, in a sense, came due to the university regulations --if i remember correctly, in Anna University, a new subject has to be introduced first as an elective. The first FOSS elective CS1023 Free/Open Source Software was introduced in 2005-06. It has been widely agreed that it needs significant revision. The second elective CS1024 Enterprise Application Development using FOSS has been found to be more acceptable. The two autonomous colleges -- TCE and PSG have come up with their own versions of FOSS electives. The syllabus, course materials, etc. are available at : http://nrcfoss.org.in/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=38Itemid=69 Please visit http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/FossElectives or http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/FossElectivesSyllabus to give your comments / suggestions re updation of the two Anna Univ electives. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan NRCFOSS ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Prashanth Mohan prashmo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mr Srinivasan, May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). hello prashanth: i thought i was putting myself alongside with you -- you get associated with FOSS and later you join some organization which is not in the good books and some guys start making snide remarks at you. my point was that even a FOSS contributor like you may have to bear up with some adverse remarks. I am sorry that my reference was too crisp and gave you a totally contrary impression. with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/4/09, Sarad AV jtrjtrjtr2...@yahoo.com wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if you suggested waterboarding. Sarad. From: Ravi Jaya ravi.goglob...@gmail.com should I have the pleasure of pre-empting kenneth : TOP POSTING!!! Sarad, avoid it in future. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Prakash, You must be aware we are doing foss activity as a voluntary gesture not a commitment duty which is assigned to you, i would further reiterate that you have the moral responsibility in reaching us, rather than expecting us to reach your desk because we are confined by paramaters like 'time' .IMO, A common ground to discuss this will be across the table in the canteen of IIT after our monthly meet, more friendlier and open hearted discussion. After all we are fellow fossians and not enemies.. I generally avoid reading too much meaning in honest and frank comments. However, doesn't one get a feeling that a volunteer is free and the employee is bonded and should report? From Arun: If you keep irritating people with bad questions like this for I understand the above point by corroborating with my past and hope many in the list will agree with me that when luggers question NRCFOSS, i see a state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS, and instead of talking about the issue, we are vehimently targetted personally. Which issues have been avoided? There can be and will be difference of opinion how one contributes to FOSS. Can you please elaborate on the state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS? I do recall that one issue you had raised was given a response -- not a denial but statement of facts. As to the targetted personally -- why are you attributing to Team NRCFOSS? haven't we seen enough flame wars and nasty comments, and considered them as coming from individuals rather than Team LUG? So, my life proceeds doing FOSS activity by making the first and foremost condition that all my activity will have no association with NRCFOSS unless i see a visible change in the team's attitude. You are entitled to your personal opinion and judgement. My personal feeling is that you are wrong in your judgement -- most likely due to insufficient data at your disposal. As for lack of time, everyone has one's own time constraints. From Srinivasn Soundrarajan ...as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably with some responsibility for our team, I apologise for the use of powerpoint in geetha's presentation. i read a quote some where An apology is a good way to have the last word. ~Author Unknown thanks -- of course, the apology has to be sincere, and I do hope you take my apology that way. regards Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: And upto my knowledge, in NRCFOSS we dont have any interaction with new comers reg how to follow the FOSS culture. I discussed with her reg this issue. She prepared her in OO; But saved as a ppt format. I would like to clear them that, we dont have any idea to irritate the FOSS culture and FOSSConf objectives. thanks a bunch for giving ammunition to NRCFOSS bashers. Again, I suppose, the fault is mine. I presume we are in a collaborative and interactive mode of working -- unfortunately, there seems to be a need for guided collaboration. I have been with NRCFOSS since 2006 April. Till now we did not discuraged any LUG communities in FOSS promotion and we would also like to interact with them reg the FOSS promotion. We are always like to interact with LUG in all the workshop. Raman Bharathi know well about it. But I am seeing, for last 2 years, whenever we participated doing some workshops along with ILUG-C communitiy people, they are always talking about TAX and irrtate NRCFOSS members. I have noted down this activity from Raman itself, in Trichy, Anna university, trip. This activites wont helpful for us to encarage the FOSS promotion along with ILUGC. I dont know, why they are targetting NRCFOSS members instead of NRCFOSS org?. You and I are members of ILUG-C. We are as much LUGgies as anybody else. As part of our official NRCFOSS duties, we organize events where we involve members from FOSS Community (includes LUGs across the country, FOSS experts / users who are not LUG members, and others). Eventually, it boils down to the efforts of the individual who has taken the responsibility of coordinating a particular event -- be it Raman or Srinivasan or Prakash -- to reach out to potential collaborators and get things going. As I pointed out in my earlier mail, I wouldn't like to attribute adverse comments or acts of errots from individuals to the entire group. Of course, we all have freedom to think in our own way. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] fossconf 09 brochures posters
hi all: the fossconf 09 brochures and posters can be collected from AU-KBC Research Centre, MIT Campus, Anna University, Chromepet, Chennai. those who are interested may kindly contact me thru mail srinivasan at au-kbc dot org or by phone 9444302439 or AU-KBC numbers : 2223 2711 / 4885 / 6958 / 6959. If advance notice is given, I could also arrange to keep a set of copies at my residence (West CIT Nagar, Saidapet/nandanam area) from where you could collect them. Srinivasan NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need a Library Management System
my colleagues (Senthil Anand and Hariram Aathreya) have set up Koha at MIT Library and at Roja Muthaiah Library. As Kenneth pointed out, Tamil version is also available. Dr Tamizhchelvan from Sri Ramakrishna Engg College could be another resource person -- particularly for Coimbatore region. There are others across the country. Srinivasan. NRCFOSS ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf -09 - Feb 27,28,Mar 1
can we quickly activate an email id a la i...@fossconf.,,, -- so that we could alert various colleges thru email and respond to their queries. srinivasan, nrcfoss. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need contributors for a open source project.
dear prakash: you could create a wiki page in nrcfosshelpline (if you haven't done already) giving more details -- info on specs, brief explanation for some of the terms, etc. the link could be given in this mail list. in fact, others who are more knowledgable could add their bit. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Seminar on Sat 29th Nov 2008
On 11/20/08, Vivek Rajagopalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clashes with the last day of Foss.In 2008. The schedules are up http://foss.in/2008/schedules/ Regards, Vivek agreed. but the target audience is primarily newbies -- most of them are outside the ambit of FOSS.IN. We also would like to catch the working professionals -- hopefully as many will be free on saturday (even if they could get enough freedays to go to bangalore) : another non intersecting set with FOSS.IN. Let us hope, many will get inducted into FOSS and can fruitfully attend FOSS.IN 2009! Srinivasan, NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] FOSS for voting?
hi: might be of interest to some of our members: http://www.openvotingconsortium.org srinivasan, nrcfoss. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] new LUG in Bengaluru
On 10/17/08, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, for those luggies who are in Bengaluru: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru/ I am visiting KLES's College of Engg., Technology, Belgaum next week to give a talk on FOSS and discuss about their FOSS activities. They are keen on FOSS training workshops (for students and staff), projects, etc. Would like to put them in touch with LUG / FOSS community members who could help them. Bangalore LUG group might be ideal. Cotacts from others are also welcome. [They might be closer to Kolhapur where Kenneth had initiated lots of activities. But, for administrative purposes, they fall under Karnataka universities. We could also use them to initiate introduction of FOSS in curriculum in these universities, reach out to more colleges, etc.] Would welcome contact info and other suggestions. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan, NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] new LUG in Bengaluru
On 10/17/08, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ILUG-Bangalore is as of now an enthusiasts and discussion group and we are pretty new to get involved in such things. It would be a better idea to involve FSUG Bangalore in this as they have more physical presence and have been quite involved with academic community in Bangalore. I will cross post this into FSUG list. thanks for the help. some of the FSUG members might be from Belgaum area (or have some interest). from my personal experience -- at FOSS as well as ealier community activities -- it helps to identify one or two persons and use them as initial contact points. [Kenneth often teases me that I interact only with Raman Bharathi!]. Their initial task might be to nurture the local community in the college, bring out a couple of persons who could (become FSUG members and) then take over the coordination, interacting with FSUG and other groups. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Students Project - suggestions
I understand that many colleges are asking / allowing the students to project in the college itself. Of course, many students have their own systems and tend to work from them. Some of the issues : a) installation of the distro and the relevant additional packages. -- while it is desirable to let the students do it themselves, a helping hand / guidance could be useful if the immediate goal is to get the project going. [as Parthan pointed out, the last minute rush will be there.] b) official letters / certificates : colleges generally need that from the guiding agency (for project acceptance, attendance and completion) LinuXpert Systems, Linus Academy and other established setups could issue one. NRCFOSS could provide the platform for unattached mentors (if they desire it). c) While the students are enthusiastic, there may be some resistance at the college level for FOSS projects. Even in one FOSS enabled college, some students were discouraged. We could do something about it -- using official / personal channels. d) Publicity helps. Can we have a list of successfully completed FOSS student projects. NRCFOSS, of course, has a vested interest in publicising this list. An official letter could also be written to all the principals / HoDs highlighting the availability of FOSS projects and the support offered by ILUG-C. e) Evaluation Certificate / Prize I have refrained (for various opeational reasons --as I see them) from proposing Prizes for student projects at NRCFOSS. But ILUG-C can announce a schema. NRCFOSS (and/or others) could provide the funds. There can also be issues like monitoring the students regularly, helping them with bandwidths for heavy downloads, etc. We have to be realise that students might not respond with the same enthusiasm / effort / basic knowledge. option 1 : offer project ideas, mentor services to everyone who is regularly responding (with work or more queries !!),. be prepared that a sizeable number will drop out. option 2 : use some criterion (more on commitment than on top of the class variety) to identify student groups, attach atleast one LUG member as godfather (any godmother??) and get things going. Srinivasan (NRCFOSS). ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] need of the hour...to know
On 9/21/08, தியாகராஜன் [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am carefully drafting this letter, so that eventually i am making sure that i am not raising an attack or defame to any individual or an organization. In any part of this mail, i wish not to hurt some one or a particular organization. ... events.People who are interested in this campaign please sent you mail either to this list or sent me mail in offline. dear thiagarajan : ** this reply of mine is purely on my individual capacity. ** the impression I get from your posting is that you are not quite aware of what NRCFOSS has been doing, which I am sure is not the case. Everyone of us, including those who are working at NRCFOSS, may have our own views and ideas about how to promote FOSS. However I would state that ILUG-C in particular has had set the tone for NRCFOSS college interations in Tamilnadu, which we quote and try to replicate in rest of the country. I am sure the inputs you get -- especially the critical ones -- can be very useful for NRCFOSS (whatever future form it take -- if!!) and for the community. with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc][OT] need of the hour...to know
On 9/23/08, Thiagu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well [ This is not related to GNU/ LINUX but for the List ] I just want to clarify , atleast 3 thiagarajan's are in this list, Often interacting with strong comments dear salem thyagu : strong comments need not be shunned -- more often they come out of passion and commitment. flame, at least to the extent I had seen, quite often gets transported to bitter / personal acrimonious exchanges and the social / societal cause gets lost. of course, each of us have our own way of putting things across. by the way, since you are Salem, I hope you are interacting with Sona College of Technology -- especially Prof Saravanan and Mr. David Samuel Azariya who have been making enormous efforts towards foss awareness, training and developement among the students. Of course, their main focus has been on their own students but, am sure, jointly you could get more things done in schools as well. with best wishes Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc][OT] need of the hour...to know
On 9/23/08, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the NRC-FOSS office is open 6 days a week. Reports of all it's activities as well as accounts are available for inspection. You are also most welcome to meet Prof Krishnan or Prof Srinivasan at any time. We are all very eager to hear criticisms of our activities. Please make an appointment before coming. Or if you need information on anything, please free to phone me - you have the number on your mobile. or send a mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] : Phoneix Design Contest
On 7/18/08, Ramanathan Muthaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting from the website, PHOENIX: Physics with Homemade Equipment and Innovative Experiments Phoenix is developed using Free Software tools and distributed under GNU GPL. NRCFOSS had conducted a workshop on Phoenix for Physics teachers. Mr. A.S. Prakash, Project Engineer, NRCFOSS , has been doing some work on this -- we find that this has applications for chem, bio and various other branches. Interested persons could interact with him. Srinivasan, NRCFOSS ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg tech coimbatore
On 6/30/08, sathis kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hai i am sathis kumar systems manager for sri krishna college of engg tech , coimbatore. our college interested in using open source software. Now we are in the process of setting up separate open source lab and open source wireless lab. our management and principal intrested to start INDIAN LINUX USER GROUP IN OUR College. so please reply the procedures to start the forum Your college library (Dr. Tamizhchelvan), in association with NRCFOSS, is planning a workshop on Koha -- possibly 2nd week of August. You could use his as a local resource. Immediately, you could organize an awareness sessions (s). Kenneth should be able to help you guys out. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
