[ilugd] Problem in Dual Boot win 98 linux

2004-02-24 Thread Sachin Rastogi
  Hi Folks,
Previously I had win98  RH 9 on my pc.But some time before due to some
reason my win 98 crashed.Now I have install win me in place of win 98 on my
machine.But problem is that now I dont found dual boot screen.So Pl suggest
me how I can get it back or  should I reinstall linux again.


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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Nishikant Kapoor
LinuxLingam wrote:
b) the new site architecture reflects how ilug-d has evolved. fantastic.
do we need a section on 'linux in education' in the discussions area?
Although we do have LAP site, mailing list, Wiki, etc. etc., it would 
not be a bad idea to have this discussion category. I will add it if I 
do not hear otherwise.

c) the description for distributions must clearly mention that this is
the forum to contact for requests for cds.
I was hoping that we would have discussions about various Linux 
distributions under 'Distributions' category i.e. our experiences, good 
and/or bad with different distributions that we have used over time.
But, you make a good point. In fact, why not designate this category for 
exchanging, providing, requesting CDs?

d)the tux mascot could be substituted with the maharaja illustration
that debuted at the linuxasia2k4 show.
Just did. Personally, I find it a bit too 'reddish' :-)

Regards,
Nishi
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[ilugd] Jabber client

2004-02-24 Thread Pankaj Kumar


Can anyone suggest me the best jabber client for
linux.

regards
Pankaj

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RE: [ilugd] Jabber client

2004-02-24 Thread Dhruv Soi
Exodus!!!

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Can anyone suggest me the best jabber client for
linux.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Jabber client

2004-02-24 Thread Ritesh Agrawal

 Can anyone suggest me the best jabber client for
 linux.

 regards
 Pankaj

 Exodus

for more info.
  http://www.jabber.org/user/clientlist.php

regards
Ritesh Agrawal


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Re: [ilugd] Jabber client

2004-02-24 Thread Mejo Jose
Pankaj Kumar wrote:
Can anyone suggest me the best jabber client for
linux.


Try gabber!

Mejo Jose
http://linux.mejokj.com
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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Required : Sysadmin , PHP coder

2004-02-24 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
Hi all ,
The following positions are open in a small software development company 
based in Gurgaon :

1. System Administrator
- 2-3 years experience as a Linux SysAdmin
- Remote admin experience a plus
- Strong knowledge of the OS, Security, Internetworking, Communications a must
2. PHP Coder
- 2 years experience in PHP
- SQL skills should be very good
- Knowledge of the linux OS and apache webserver will be a major plus
Please contact me at :
Netaquila Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
407b Signature Towers , Gurgaon
Phone : 124 - 5080780/83 extn 107
Its a great friendly office with a lot of potential for growth and 
learning. Salary and benefits are as per skills and experience.

thanks.



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RE: [ilugd] Jabber client

2004-02-24 Thread Pankaj Kumar
i think exodus is available for Windows only.
regards
pankaj
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 Can anyone suggest me the best jabber client for
 linux.
 
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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 16:06, Nishikant Kapoor wrote:
 LinuxLingam wrote:


  c) the description for distributions must clearly mention that this is
  the forum to contact for requests for cds.
 I was hoping that we would have discussions about various Linux 
 distributions under 'Distributions' category i.e. our experiences, good 
 and/or bad with different distributions that we have used over time.
 But, you make a good point. In fact, why not designate this category for 
 exchanging, providing, requesting CDs?

exactly. 
 
  d)the tux mascot could be substituted with the maharaja illustration
  that debuted at the linuxasia2k4 show.
 Just did. Personally, I find it a bit too 'reddish' :-)

you could use the linux-delhi logo i designed (in svg or png format)
file in the downloads area of linux-delhi, on the top-left, and use the
maharaja tux illustration as our delhite version of the mascot on the
right. or vice-versa. that will give us the proper visual communication
+ identity i have been trying very hard to achieve for linux-delhi for a
few months.


just try it, please.


:-)
LL


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Re: [ilugd] Problem in Dual Boot win 98 linux

2004-02-24 Thread Mohsin Ahmad
well kapil if your bootloader has some problem then
this solutoin might work. Otherwise sorry idont know
bye 
mohsin

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[ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Tarun Dua
LinuxLingam wrote:
 just try it, please.
humour
Attempts to subvert democratic process detected.
Alarm!!
/humour
On a more serious note, Linux Delhi already having dipped into 
the kitty to prop up the Maharaja Tux Logo/Illustration/Mascot on its
banner so it doesn't make sense to find a replacement for Linux Delhi
official logo without LL volunteering to get a new banner done.

Vivek you should provide the latest version of Maharaja Tux in the files
downloads area soon.

-Tarun
(locating my asbestos underwear in the meanwhile)


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[ilugd] unsubscribe

2004-02-24 Thread Sushobhit Gupt
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Kedar Dash wrote:

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 Subject: [ilugd] problem with environment variables

 hello all

 i am trying to compile a file placed on partition
 (/mnt/extra) other than / or /home. this partition is
 of ext3 type.

 now i am trying to compile a java code on /mnt/extra
 but it says sme class file is not found.  but if i
 keep the same file on /home directory it compile
 without any error. so the problem is with i guess the environment
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 so where ( file) i should set it so that this problem
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[ilugd] [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Just found the following tag hidden in the source at the bottom of an 
Indiatimes astrology promo mail which just hit my mailbox. I dont 
remember subscribing to this list, and there was no information in the 
mail about how to unsubscribe. And on top of that the following tag is 
most probably being used to clandestinely confirm my email address if I 
open it in my HTML mail client (Thunderbird).

lt;img 
src='http://imtmailer.indiatimes.com/imtetrack.php?event=open[EMAIL PROTECTED]dbkey=Astro_Bejan' 
width='1' height='1' gt;

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 18:48, Tarun Dua wrote:



 On a more serious note, Linux Delhi already having dipped into 
 the kitty to prop up the Maharaja Tux Logo/Illustration/Mascot on its
 banner so it doesn't make sense to find a replacement for Linux Delhi
 official logo without LL volunteering to get a new banner done.
 
 Vivek you should provide the latest version of Maharaja Tux in the files
 downloads area soon.
 
 -Tarun
 (locating my asbestos underwear in the meanwhile)


please do. because am not talking about a new banner, am saying put the
logo on the left of the page, the maharaja illustration on the right of
the page.

other examples: 
1) air india maharaja on a centre page, air india logo at the bottom. 
2) amul boy illustration eating butter, amul logotype on the right.
3) hutch baby boy + dog out for a walk, hutch logo on top right.

argh! how difficult is it to put the illustration on the right, and the
logo on the left. tarun, you exasperate me!

goddamit! just try it, and let's see how wretched it looks.



BAH!


[fuming]


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RE: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Kapoor, Nishikant
Ok, ok, ok...I am at work now and do not have access to ILUG-D site.
Will do it tonight (assuming my 2 yr old goes to bed on time :-)

Regards,
Nishi

 -Original Message-
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 argh! how difficult is it to put the illustration on the 
 right, and the
 logo on the left. tarun, you exasperate me!
 
 goddamit! just try it, and let's see how wretched it looks.
 
 BAH!
 
 [fuming]
 
 LL


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[ilugd] Re: [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-02-24 21:58:44 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 who else has some proactive, tangible steps on what we can do that
 leads to results?

I suggest a mass SMS campaign to raise public awareness!

-- ams

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 22:25, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
 At 2004-02-24 21:58:44 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  who else has some proactive, tangible steps on what we can do that
  leads to results?
 
 I suggest a mass SMS campaign to raise public awareness!
 
 -- ams

funny.
hey! am serious about this. if i had the time, ams, and the inclination,
i could spend half-a-day and dig out or buy loads of data on you, and
that's not funny. the same is true for me or for anybody else out there.

so, how do we start a Quit Databasing Us movement?

c'mon guys, think.

!LL



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[ilugd] A question about QT licensing

2004-02-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Hi!

I was browsing around for a good python IDE when i hit upon Eric 
(http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html). Then something hit me 
in the eye when i looked up the project description.

===
In order to use eric3 under Win... operating systems you need a 
commercial or educational license of Qt 3.x from Trolltech and the 
corresponding license of PyQt (which includes QScintilla) from Riverbank.
===

My question is, why does *using* an open source product based on GPL'ed 
QT, require a commercial license? After all, I am not using the library 
in an application which i am selling?

Does that mean that any GPL'ed code based windows application cannot be 
used for commercial purposes?

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread Raj Shekhar
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
At 2004-02-24 21:58:44 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

who else has some proactive, tangible steps on what we can do that
leads to results?


I suggest a mass SMS campaign to raise public awareness!
Hmmm... are you sure that would not be spamming ? :-)

Yes I agree with LL that the situation is pretty bad. Only a few days 
back I got a mail offering me a excel sheet filled with hundreds of 
email id for only Rs. 1600. Moreover our netas are planning to send out 
crores of sms messages before the election (Btw I read that in the 
Slimes [Times] of India, so the truthfulness can be doubted). Another 
aside, I think these people [netas] would be using some kind of war 
dialer for sending out SMS, so if anyone here is on the payroll, please 
share the source code (for educational purposes only :-))

But LL you are a journalist and maybe you can use your columns to spread 
awarness about this issue. Once the people are warned of the dangers of 
blatantly giving out email ids and mobile numbers, they would be in a 
position to make an informed choice.

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[ilugd] ILUG-D logo

2004-02-24 Thread Kapoor, Nishikant
LL,

I downloaded LinuxDelhiLogo.png from ILUG-D/downloads and am trying to open it using 
gimp 1.2.1 but it says Unknown file type. Same is the case with xv 3.10a.

I noticed that if I open it in IE, it uses QuickTime to display the file. Is that how 
IE renders all .png files?

Anyway, how do I open the file? I need to resize it to file ILUG-D page-header.

Regards,
Nishi


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RE: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
I had searched for a long time for a truly easy to use Internet gateway 
solution based on Linux. Obviously i could have set things up myself since 
everything needed is already a part of every distro. I neither had the time 
nor the experience to try something like that.

Last week i found what i find is the easiest and quickest way to install an 
Internet gateway. The solution from www.clarkconnect.org comes in the form 
of a bootable CD image that is based on RH9. The installer takes over and 
installs the whole setup very painlessly. In 30 mins of putting the CD in 
the drive i had a reasonable Firewall, Email Server with spam filtering and 
Anti virus scanning AND a webmail solution, Squid proxy with content 
filtering, status reports and whole lot of other stuff. The best part is 
everything was controllable with a very easy to use web interface to 
control each part of the setup.

This is an ideal solution for a small office/home especially if you are a 
newbie :) like me. I am bowled over with the product and have spent some 
time adding on stuff to really make this a fantastic server for my office.

The ISO is about 300megs so if anyone is interested but doesn't want to 
download it, just let me know and i will burn you a copy.

- Ankur.

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Re: [ilugd] unsubscribe

2004-02-24 Thread Raj Shekhar
Kedar Dash wrote:
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To start a new topic of discussion (commonly called a thread), compose a 
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Please start a new thread instead of taking an already ongoing one, 
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If you use an existing thread, the result is that your question is 
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I'm sorry that most people don't use a mail client smart enough to 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 22:34, Raj Shekhar wrote:
[snip]
 But LL you are a journalist and maybe you can use your columns to spread 
 awarness about this issue. Once the people are warned of the dangers of 
 blatantly giving out email ids and mobile numbers, they would be in a 
 position to make an informed choice.
 

okay. that's the first step, but not enough. i'll do this. however, as a
consumer, an indian is usually helpless if he/she does not hand over
their personal details. the service requested could be denied. not so in
canada for instance.

any other proactive, more consumer/individual-friendly steps?
anyone aware of a consumer-rights group, or NGO type agency that could
be interested in this? anybody has contacts in newspapers, tv, news
magazines, that could take this up?

anybody a lawyer who volunteers to study the legal aspects of this?

yaar, its about time we did something about fighting for our privacy,
even if the battle is half-lost.

key focus areas for privacy policy for indians at:
1) banks, financial institutions, loan agents, credit card, debit card
agencies.
2) govt. agencies that procure, or sub-contract to third-party.
3) health institutions, insurance companies, other public sector
organizations.
4) educational institutions.
5) private sector: MNCs, indian companies, even small firms.
6) the obvious: junk emails, spam, etc.
7) telecom companies, utility providers, etc.

add your own. anyone on the list could take this discussion further to
the ilug-india mailing list. please do it, as i know first-hand this
menace perpetuates across the sub-continent.

LL


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[ilugd] linuxdelhi logo

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
hi nishi,

the logos are created in sodipodi, which is available from sodipodi.org.
the software is a vector graphics authoring software (like coreldraw or
adobe illustrator). the png was exported from within this software.

i just opened the files here, and they work okay.

if you wish, i could email to your inbox, the original source files, the
png, and you could try them. you could also download the small sodipodi
software, as well as sketch (google) to open and modify the files.

:-)
LL




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Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Avinesh Bangar
(PS. Ankur, I think you hijacked a thread ;-)

 Last week i found what i find is the easiest and quickest way to install
an
 Internet gateway. The solution from www.clarkconnect.org comes in the form

Another vote for ClarkConnect :-)  I installed CC 2.1 at a not-for-profit
organization awhile back, and the staff (not very computer literate) was
pleased with its intuitive web-based interface.

I have also tested (and recommend) the following out-of-the-box Internet
firewalls/gateway software: http://www.e-smith.org/ and
http://www.astaro.com/

I personally prefer CC though -- it has become quite a functional and stable
project since the early 0.9x days.  It includes the familiar Debian-style
'apt-get' tool for installing software and security updates.

Regards,
 Avinesh



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Re: [ilugd] Package Installation Problem

2004-02-24 Thread Raj Shekhar
Utsav Handa wrote:

The package is of the ( gnome+-2.2.1.tar.gz ) form.
Despite the hype you hear regarding the compiling of source code, you do 
not have to compile source to perform installation. Personally I compile 
source code only in the following cases

- When no RPM packages can be found (extremely rare case)

- When someone puts a gun on my head (This has not happened till date)

The reply below was sent to a newbie by Rick Moen (editor of 
linuxgazette.net) regarding the installation process of Xine. Hopefully, 
you will find it useful too.

Start quote

Let's review the ways to install new software into a Linux 
distribution such as Red Hat 9. First, you have the binary packages 
included on your distribution's CD-ROMs. Absent a compelling reason to 
the contrary, that should be the first place you look, because they're 
guaranteed compatible with your system, cryptographically signed by 
fairly trustworthy people, and are made easy to install. In this case, 
very likely you already checked, and found that Xine isn't included in 
your distribution.

Second, there are third-party repositories of software precompiled 
and packaged (by sundry individuals) for your particular distribution. 
E.g., the http://freshrpms.net/ repository has collections for all major 
distributions (and specifically for their individual releases) that use 
the RPM package format. Warning: Be careful about which collection at 
that site you draw from. Don't install an RPM designed for Mandrake, 
SuSE, Conectiva, TurboLinux, etc. -- just ones for Red Hat. (Yes, you 
can sometimes get away with those others, but don't try.) Don't try to 
install an RPM compiled for the DEC Alpha or PowerPC processor, given 
that you're running RH9 for x86. It's even best to stick to packages 
intended specifically for RH9, rather than for RH8/7.x, Fedora Core, etc.

Third, for a while longer, you can get package _updates_ from Red 
Hat via its up2date program, pulling packages from the Red Hat Network 
updating service. This is a very worthwhile facility,

Fourth, you can use tools to acquire and install packages from 
repositories such as FreshRPMs smoothly and automatically, taking care 
of dependencies (required packages needed to make the desired package 
work), using package-handling tools such as yum and Conectiva's port of 
apt-get to RPM.

Last, there are of course source-code tarballs (.tar.gz archives), 
which you can with varying amounts of effort and frustration compile and 
install. Note that unless you _also_ master the arcane art of making 
your own RPM archives from source (writing the spec file contained 
therein, which controls the RPM build process), your package-management 
system won't be aware of the software's presence -- a disadvantage. 
Compiling from source will therefore be usually a last resort relative 
to the other options, for any properly lazy sysadmin.

Therefore, I recommend that you start at http://freshrpms.net/, the 
FreshRPMs site. It has everything you need to get started.


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[ilugd] (Fwd:) Debian Weekly News - XFree86 declared non-free in Debian

2004-02-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
[This is likely to have a major impact on the future releases of XFree86 
on Debian. - Sandip]

 Original Message 
Subject: Debian Weekly News - February 24th, 2004
Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:22:24 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:04:08 +0100
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To: Debian News Channel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
Debian Weekly News
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2004/08/
Debian Weekly News - February 24th, 2004
---
[...]

Investigation of the new XFree86 License. Branden Robinson
[8]inspected the new [9]license for XFree86 4.4 and higher. He
concluded that the de facto impact of the change to the XFree86
Project, Inc.'s own license is to render the XFree86 source
distribution GPL-incompatible in many aspects. Keith Packard
[10]asserted that he has a strong desire to make the released software
on freedesktop.org from that source completely [11]DFSG-free.
 8. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0402/msg00102.html
 9. http://www.xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html
 10. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0402/msg00116.html
 11. http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[...]

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread amit soni
  who else has some proactive, tangible steps on what we can do that
  leads to results?
 I suggest a mass SMS campaign to raise public awareness!
 -- ams
 funny.
 hey! am serious about this. if i had the time, ams, and the inclination,
 i could spend half-a-day and dig out or buy loads of data on you, and
 that's not funny. the same is true for me or for anybody else out there.
 so, how do we start a Quit Databasing Us movement?

To defeat an army, hit one of them with such might that the rest
disappear. - Unknown.

Indian law is funny in itself(specially the IT part). We need a lawyer to
find out the funniest part of it and then sue one of the mighty players(eg.
indiatimes). The rest will disappear(atleast hide). I dont think ILUGD alone
has enough resources(intention?) to fund such a project. We need some IT NGO
to fund this movement.

BTW ...good one ams. LOL!

-amit.


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RE: [ilugd] [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
india has a pathetic stance on spyware, privacy issues, email
harvesting, 

Agreed!!!

I just (for the first time in my life -- after signing in yahoo for
more than 7 years) read the Yahoo's Date Protection Policy.

Source: http://privacy.yahoo.com/

Yahoo! takes your privacy seriously. Please read the following to learn
more about our privacy policy...

1) collection of address, email, mobile, res numbers, etc., while
filling up most forms for banks etc. no clear-cut policy with
liability
 responsibility on default mentioned.

This policy covers how Yahoo! treats personal information that Yahoo!
collects and receives, including information related to your past use of
Yahoo! products and services. Personal information is information about
you that is personally identifiable like your name, address, email
address, or phone number, and that is not otherwise publicly available. 
This policy does not apply to the practices of companies that Yahoo!
does not own or control or to people that Yahoo! does not employ or
manage.


2) no policy on sale or hire of such databases to third party or
sub-contractors. or to other marketing services.

Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you with
other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide products or
services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the
following circumstances: 
We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or
with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use
your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about
offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners. However, these companies
do not have any independent right to share this information.

4) spam, marketing junk material need not have any real
responsibility

Yahoo! uses information for the following general purposes: to customize
the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products
and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and
provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients.

5) if you ever ask total strangers who call you on marketing calls,
where they caught hold of your contact details, they refuse to reveal
their source, and promptly hang up.

DO we really care to cross check or try to become so reactive that we
can find the root cause for it other than just banging on the poor
fellow??? 
Do we care to read all this GYAN written about the privacy before
actually signing in or filling any form???
I couldn't find even a drop of it on Indiatimes...If any one finds it
plz do let me know)

Are we *really* willing to stop using there services just because they
don't have any defined Data Protection Policy for there customers???

I wish to do something about this. Who else has some proactive,
tangible steps on what we can do that leads to results?

We need to put awareness in the general public that this is harmful and
will cause a slow poison in us. This is for sure that many of us
(including me) care a damm! about it and take it very likely until it
actually irritate us and we start crying and screaming for the procedure
and policy of various companies... :-(


let's try those steps on indiatimes for a start for the spyware email
they sent sandip.


I am there with you will all my TAN, MAN and DHAN... until it actually
affects my job and doesn't involve a Police ruffart in it...
I am scared of police... ;o)

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[ilugd] ILUG-D site is down

2004-02-24 Thread Nishikant Kapoor
Its been down since morning. Anybody knows why ???

-Nishi

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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D site is down

2004-02-24 Thread amit soni
What do you mean since morning ? you wrote this mail at 5:41AM !!

- Original Message - 
From: Nishikant Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ILUG-D Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: [ilugd] ILUG-D site is down


 Its been down since morning. Anybody knows why ???
 
 -Nishi


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Re: [ilugd] query regarding SAN switch

2004-02-24 Thread Naresh Narang
A SAN Switch is usually a fibre channel switch, which
is used for data communication only. So all devices on
this fibre channel switch can see SAN storage. Needs
Host Bus Adapters to be installed in servers. Probably
you know Ethernet for LAN. You can search google for
getting as much details as you want.

Regards,
Naresh


--- Sharad  Singla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dear group members,
 
 hi. can anybody tell me the difference between a
 normal ( LAN ) switch and a SAN switch.
 
 any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
 
 Thanks  regards
 sharad
 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread vivek khurana

--- Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LinuxLingam wrote:
  just try it, please.
 humour
 Attempts to subvert democratic process detected.
 Alarm!!
 /humour
 I disagree with you tarun. I seriously like LL's
logos
 On a more serious note, Linux Delhi already having
 dipped into 
 the kitty to prop up the Maharaja Tux
 Logo/Illustration/Mascot on its
 banner so it doesn't make sense to find a
 replacement for Linux Delhi
 official logo without LL volunteering to get a new
 banner done.
 Vivek you should provide the latest version of
 Maharaja Tux in the files
 downloads area soon.
 I had sent the logo to Nishi, along with a combo of
LL logo and maharaja  tux. Actually i would have
enjoyed this combo to make debut but i was unable to
send them to mairu due to some technical snag. I will
provide the combo and newer version of maharaja tux as
soon as ilugd site is up again.

bye
vivek
 
 -Tarun
 (locating my asbestos underwear in the meanwhile)
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D site is down

2004-02-24 Thread Mairu Gupta

 I can ssh to linux-delhi.org but when I call up 
 http://www.linux-delhi.org/, I get
 
 The connection was refused when attempting to contact
 www.linux-delhi.org.
 
 -Nishi
 


Nishi

Now it seems to be working fabulously again.
See.

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Re: [ilugd] unsubscribe

2004-02-24 Thread Sudev Barar
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 22:49, Raj Shekhar wrote:
 Kedar Dash wrote:
 [snip]
Kudos. Thanks for the effort you are making in educating people time and
again. I wish more people read guidelines before jumping in.
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[ilugd] LDAP GUI under development

2004-02-24 Thread Tarun Dua
http://www.intraperson.com/
Quote
Ldap interace that does not require hours or days to learn. It is so easy
that anyone can become ldap administrators in matter of seconds. 
 
Features 
Users can login and update their contact information. Including passwords. 
User can search others contact information. 
Unix system accounts. 
Support for mailing lists and unix groups 
All users in specific group are members of that mailing list and unix group. 
Special 'everyone' mail group where mail will be deliverd for every user in
ldap. 
Support for per user mail alias which is created if work mail mailbox is
different from user ID. 
User private groups 
Samba support 
Lite and fast. 
... Many more to be implemented with help of plugins and modules
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[ilugd] [commercial]PHP...LInux

2004-02-24 Thread Nitin Chandra
sorry folks the previous mail...subject line is
[COMMERCIAL]

Nitin Chandra

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Re: [ilugd] PHP...Linux

2004-02-24 Thread J.Mohamed Zahoor
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Nitin Chandra wrote:
 1. Web Developer cum designer:
 Exp.- Min 1 yr 
 Skills Experience/Domain Knowledge:- Min. 6 months
SNIP
[COMMERCIAL] tag is missing...!!!
./zahoor


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[ilugd] Re: Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread Tarun Dua
LinuxLingam wrote:
 [fuming]
[g,d,r with white flag]
[g,d,r,w,f]
-Tarun


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Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUG-D website

2004-02-24 Thread LinuxLingam
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 08:47, Raj Mathur wrote:
[snip]
 LL had posted some excellent guidelines for making logos onto the list
 some time back (toward the end of 2003).  If our aspiring artists
 could grab those and make up a few logos that meet the guidelines, we
 could have a poll for one for ILUGD.

i do know atleast 4 good designers lurking on this list

by the way, vivek, thanks for the kind words. 
as we all know, in life you get much further with a kind word and a gnu,
than a kind word alone...(!)

:-)
LL


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[ilugd] regarding setuid and more

2004-02-24 Thread arundeep singh
hello all

I want to build a library that contains some functions
such as ioperm, which needs root privileges. I am
using this library functions from Java. and java
program could be run by any user. 

e.g code in library is 

int setPermission(int from, int num, int mode)
{

int y;
y=ioperm(from,num,mode);
return y;
}

well i don't know how to modify this code so that this
setPermission when run by user in Java environment
will  have sufficient permision to run ioperm
function. 

i am compiling this code in a library named
libCJInterface.so

any solution please.

thanks

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