[ilugd] Fwd: [KDE-India] conf.kde.in 2011 announced

2010-12-28 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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From: Shantanu Tushar Jha 
Date: 2010/12/28
Subject: [KDE-India]  conf.kde.in 2011 announced
To: KDE-India List 


Hi everyone!

The KDE India community is happy to announce its first conference in
India, conf.kde.in 2011 hosted by R.V. College of Engineering,
Bangalore
Visit http://kde.in or http://conf.kde.in for more information and
spread the word all over your social network. Let the world know!

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Re: [ilugd] Is there any feature like Visual C

2009-10-02 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Pratul Kalia  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:10 AM, rakesh kumar  wrote:
>> Hi all
>>        I wanted to know is there any feature like Visual C/C++ on linux If
>> any body want to do graphical programming in C/C++?
>> reg
>
> Visual C++ on Windows is a way to use the Win32 API using C++. There's
> nothing "different" about Visual C++, its the same C++ that's used
> every where else. On Linux too, lots of different GUI libraries are
> available that you can use with C or C++.
> Some of them are Qt (C++) wxWidgets (C++) and GTK+ (C/C++). If you're
> looking for an "interface builder", then you have Glade for GTK+ and
> Qt Creator for Qt.

Infact, Qt ( pronounced as "cute" ) is a C++ API/Toolkit.  It can do
more than just GUI programming. A lot more.

Qt Designer is a WYSIWIG tool to design the GUI.

Qt Creator is an IDE for Qt programming and NOT an interface builder.
It integrates, a Code Editor, Help/Documentation, Designer and more.
You can choose to use it or not while programming with Qt. There is a
lot of awesome documentation/examples to learn Qt right from basics to
advanced stuff.

Look around this website - http://qt.nokia.com . There is a lot of
nice things to read and learn if you are interested.

Btw, if you have ever used Google Earth, Skype or Motorola Rokr Phone.
They are all developed using Qt.

Cheers!
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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-14 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Raj Mathur  wrote:
>
> "Everything else being equal..."
>
> Getting into the relative non-FOSS-related merits and demerits of
> various political parties is neither productive nor desirable here.
> Enough other fora available for ranting and flaming about your
> favourites and against your sworn enemies.  And who doesn't have strong
> feelings one way or the other about Indian politics?

And apologies as well, it was not my intention to take the thread
off-topic or hijack it.

Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-14 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi Raj,

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Raj Mathur  wrote:
> On Sunday 15 Mar 2009, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
>> I am still trying to do that math. What good would FOSS do to me, if
>> my family/female-members are not secure and are attacked based on
>> what they wear and where they choose to go? ah well... this can be a
>> long rant and I guess this is not the forum for that ..
>
> Perhaps you missed the earlier statement, which began:
>
> "Everything else being equal..."
>
> Getting into the relative non-FOSS-related merits and demerits of
> various political parties is neither productive nor desirable here.
> Enough other fora available for ranting and flaming about your
> favourites and against your sworn enemies.  And who doesn't have strong
> feelings one way or the other about Indian politics?
>

No no ... I did read it. That is why I said, I am still trying to do
the math. And that is why I said the rant/opinion is not a topic for
this list. Completely agree with you. Just not able to convince myself
what is good or bad here :).

Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-14 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Raj Mathur  wrote:
>
> Being the cynic that I am, I'm not sure how much of this would actually
> see the light of day if the BJP does come into power, but given the the
> choice between 2 (or n) evils, I'd rather choose the evil that at least
> promises to support FOSS :)

I am still trying to do that math. What good would FOSS do to me, if
my family/female-members are not secure and are attacked based on what
they wear and where they choose to go? ah well... this can be a long
rant and I guess this is not the forum for that ..

Cheers!

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nd I am not able to convince myself about what you said

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[ilugd] [Commercial] [X-Post] Fwd: Job openings at Geodesic on Linux Platform

2009-01-21 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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From: Mrugesh Karnik 
Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Subject: Job openings at Geodesic on Linux Platform
To: Pradeepto Bhattacharya 


Hi,

Can you please forward this across the LUGs?

We have a couple very urgent of openings at Geodesic Ltd.
 as follows:

1. NOC In-charge

Profile:
Managing a nework of servers running Asterisk, Freeswitch, SIP Express
Routers, custom servers, web servers and managing interconnects with
Telcos across the world.

CTC:
12 Lacs/anum

2. Senior Programmers for Linux Platform

Profile:
Server-side application development in C, perl CGI.
Asterisk/Freeswitch scripting experience preferred.

CTC:
7 Lacs/anum

Resumes to be forwarded to vi...@geodesic.com.

Thanks,
Mrugesh




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[ilugd] [X-Post] LGPL License Option Added to Qt

2009-01-14 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

QtSoftware has decided to add LGPL license to Qt. Following has more details.

http://dot.kde.org/1231920504/
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt
http://www.qtsoftware.com/

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Re: [ilugd] HACKER: what can we do to avoid its misuse

2009-01-05 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Mohit Singh  wrote:
> Dear FOSSmates,
>
>
> The term 'HACKER' is always associated generally with CYBER CRIME, CYBER
> CRIMINALS and CRACKERS.
>
> Whatever we say within us, the fact remains that almost entire law making
> bodies and media associate this term with cyber crime or the like.Then the
> public image of HACKER becomes synonymous to CRIMINAL.
>
> GLUG-Meerut has access to a local FM channel IIMT Radio 90.4 FM and today we
> have got our FOSSTIVAL 2009 Radio AD approved by them containing the
> sentence - "HACKER is NOT a criminal, HACKER is an artistic programmer
> instead, come join the HACKERS". It's all set to be on air w.e.f. TODAY.
> I do believe that we need to do a lot more in this context and a combine of
> FSF,OSI,NRCFOSS,CDACs,IITs,etc. must raise voice against usage of 'HACKER'
> as CRIMINAL in any place at least in India.

Am I the only one who is getting a deja vu feeling reading this email?
:). Good intentions though.

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[ilugd] Fwd: An appeal from Wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales

2008-12-25 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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From: Pradeepto Bhattacharya 
Date: Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Subject: An appeal from Wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales
To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" 


Hi,

A very good friend and old timer of this lug - Vihan Pandey sent this
to me and some others, and he rightly thinks this should be sent to
the lug-list.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Letter/en?utm_source=2008_jimmy_letter_r&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=fundraiser2008#appeal

==
Dear Reader,

Today I am going to ask you to support Wikipedia with a donation. This
might sound unusual: Why does one of the world's five most popular web
properties ask for financial support from its users?

Wikipedia is built differently from almost every other top 50 website.
We have a small number of paid staff, just twenty-three. Wikipedia
content is free to use by anyone for any purpose. Our annual expenses
are less than six million dollars. Wikipedia is run by the non-profit
Wikimedia Foundation, which I founded in 2003.

At its core, Wikipedia is driven by a global community of more than
150,000 volunteers - all dedicated to sharing knowledge freely. Over
almost eight years, these volunteers have contributed more than 11
million articles in 265 languages. More than 275 million people come
to our website every month to access information, free of charge and
free of advertising.

But Wikipedia is more than a website. We share a common cause: Imagine
a world in which every single person on the planet is given free
access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment.

Your donation helps us in several ways. Most importantly, you will
help us cover the increasing cost of managing global traffic to one of
the most popular websites on the Internet. Funds also help us improve
the software that runs Wikipedia -- making it easier to search, easier
to read, and easier to write for. We are committed to growing the free
knowledge movement world-wide, by recruiting new volunteers, and
building strategic partnerships with institutions of culture and
learning.

Wikipedia is different. It's the largest encyclopedia in history,
written by volunteers. Like a national park or a school, we don't
believe advertising should have a place in Wikipedia. We want to keep
it free and strong, but we need the support of thousands of people
like you.

I invite you to join us: Your donation will help keep Wikipedia free
for the whole world.

Thank you,

Jimmy Wales
==

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[ilugd] [X-Post] KDE Posters @ FOSS.IN/2008

2008-11-19 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

  We have made some posters for upcoming FOSS.IN/2008.  One to
showcase the "Pillars of KDE", and other to showcase the Indic
localisation for KDE. All of them have been made using inkscape.

   [1]http://pradeepto.livejournal.com/16634.html
   [2]http://pradeepto.livejournal.com/16736.html

  Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Re: warranty - check with the vendor directly. I would suggest not go
>>
>> by other user's experience.
>> I guess you are right. I have written to the Dell support, let's see what
> they say.
>
> I got a mail from Dell, regarding the same and it says:
>
> "According to the email received, I understand that you are trying to
> install Linux operating system on the machine, and you want to know if your
> warranty will be effected or not. The warranty is for the hardware and not
> for the software.The hardware warranty would not be effected."

 Like I thought. The warranty is on Hardware and not software.
Not sure if both can be coupled if at all ( especially for such
general purpose boxes/laptops ).

>
> So, those who are planning to wipe out Widows Vistha may go ahead :P

  Have you checked if you can ask for refund for not accepting
the Vista license? Or did you say yes to EULA.

 Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu

2008-11-04 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, I did all that with the Live CD. I wanna format the HDD, get rid of
> Vista Permium, and install Ubuntu. My concern is will that void the
> warrantee? I will call up the customer care to check, but was just exited to

  I don't think so. Atleast IBM / Lenevo don't care what you
are running. I had bought a T42 back in 2006. Its hdd failed few
months back, recently called them about that problem. Also about the
screen and combi-drive. I had removed Windows XP 4 days after I had
bought the laptop. The dude came, put all new parts and left. Didn't
care what was installed or what I wanted to install . He used some
hitachi hdd testing software to test the hdd, at the first error
block, he stopped the test and changed the hdd :).

  Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] Final list of awards for the 2008 Sarai FLOSS fellowships

2008-10-30 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Sudhir Gandotra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Gora,
>
> How can one get contact information of the participants ?
>
> And how does one get to see their work that has won awards ?

  Correct if I am wrong, they have got scholarships to work on
their respective projects.  So work has to be done now. So you have to
wait to see their work, once done. And for example you can see,
Kartik's work by checking out 4.2 version of KDE, when that is
released.

  Cheers!

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[ilugd] Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] OpenStreetMap contemplates licensing [LWN.net]

2008-10-24 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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From: "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] OpenStreetMap contemplates licensing [LWN.net]
To: ILUG-Cal's principal mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/304218/624301b7f2f9c617/

The OSM project is not happy with this license, though, and is looking
to make a change. The attribution requirement is ambiguous in this
context; do users need to credit every OSM contributor? Does making a
plot of OSM data with added data layered on top create a derived
product? But the scariest question is a different one: can the CC by-SA
license cover the OSM database at all?


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Re: [ilugd] Important : In support of Raj Thackeray...

2008-10-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 24 Oct 2008, sumit...left d stone age. wrote:
>> After all the 'Raj Thackeray issue', I have realised that we should
>> support him in the following ways please read this and spread
>> this message across the country. Use the power of forwarding
>> mails today!!! *
>
> Very interesting, and totally relevant to a mailing list devoted to the
> discussion of Linux and FOSS in and around Delhi.  What are we going to
> get next, a list of your favourite daal-makhani recipes?
>

As someone whose pujari ancestors were from Maharashtra many
eons ago, then migrated to a place which is currently in Bangladesh to
perform pujas at the behest of some king or such then to Banaras again
to perform pujas then to Kanpur to serve a lifetime to the Defence
ministry, and the serving the country and its "public sector" by
building pipelines and petroleum plants all across the country
including Maharashtra ( for 13+ years ) (  and finally myself taking
birth in Bihar in a small place called Dhanbad which now is a part of
Jharkhand, then move to Orissa and then finally moving back and living
in Maharashtra for 22+ years ( and sister getting married to a
Maharashtrian ) -  I do find that mail very interesting.

 And I have been pondering about my identity. I call it
Indian, no idea what politicians call it or want to call it. Actually
I am confused at times these days, esp when I read newspapers or watch
TV.

 Funny, how when I talk to KDE folks from else where, they
call me - " Indian KDE contributor.". But in India, I am a Bengali
living in Maharashtra.

 But you are very right, this topic is not for this list. I
agree completely.

 Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] The Google Cookie Conspiracy

2008-10-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pradeepto has given a very nice explanation.
>
> However, in the legal scenerio, refering to Indian IT act 2000,
> unfortunately the term hacker or hacking is taken in the wrong sense.

  Yes, sadly its framed by cyberlaw experts and bureaucrats
like the one I mentioned earlier.

>
> Well, we can not change the people who write these words but we can
> educate them and all others by giving knowledge with the proper
> meanings/explanations (Like the one Pradeepto has given)

   Yes, thats why I had to explained *that* student what
"hacking" actually meant. The fact that everybody does hack in one way
or other - in technology, in life etc to make our life/things we do
easier. Or else mankind wouldn't have invented fire, wheel, spoons,
toilet flush, books, computers, CDROMS, Windows  ummm wait? ;).
Point being, if you can use a long spoon to get that last bit of
Kissan Jam from that deep bottle, or if you draw threads of rope /
strings from a water container to a flowerpot so that the plants are
watered when you are away or you have developed a way to improve your
productivity ( lifehacks ) or if you write a simple script that makes
sure your ssh connection reconnects automagically after disconnection
or a script that fetches and tells the latest stock price for Reliance
Petroleum or you have done some (kernel) coding - you have done some
hacking  and YOU ARE A HACKER.

 Chirag, I hope you understand the meaning now.

>
> Even if we accept the legal terminology, Ethical and Hacker will not
> go together.

  Unless the laws are changed, and those can be changed
provide enough people talk about and enough people are educated about
it. And the misnomers are eradicated.  If we don't talk about it
enough and tell our friends/colleagues/family/etc we will soon have
people like Ankit Fadia framing laws for us.

   Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] The Google Cookie Conspiracy

2008-10-22 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:07 AM, amar akshat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All big people after my neck.I realize thats its time to say " That I am
> sorry for any thing controversial I said i was just trying to convey
> something i found interesting"
>

  Nobody is after your neck or any other body part. AFAIK, no
cannibals in this list. ;)

   Point they are trying to tell you is - there is *NO* such thing
called "Ethical Hacking". Guess what? Hacking is *always* ethical. The
term ethical hacking is thus as misnomer. Institutes/People misguide
people by cooking up such names, sobriquets and slogans ( dare to
dream beyond . ;) )  for their own benefit and vested interests
and media helps a lot to spread such ideas.

I think, we have yet to see any proof from AF about his tall
claims. I mean, I find it hard to believe that FBI called him of all
people in world to help them with steganography(?). Maybe I am
difficult person to convince but show me some proof atleast. I/We have
never seen any source or information that corroborates anything that
is mentioned on his website or in the article on wikipedia about him.

Speaking about media, other day, I was watching some news
channel and a certain uber cyberlaw expert was being interviewed as a
part of story about a man from whose account a HUGE amount was
withdrawn fraudulently. IIRC, this dude, whom I have seen few times on
TV talking about cyber laws and security, says ( how to prevent
yourself from such cybercrimes ) ," yeah, you know what I never use
any kind of internet banking ( or something to that effect )  and thus
safe. "

 WTF? What kind of security is that? In Bengali there is a
saying - "chor-er bhoye maati-te keo khayena" ( atleast heard that at
home a few times ) - it means, "fearing a thief you can't eat on the
ground" ( not buy utensils etc, thus nothing in the house that could
be stolen ). I feel, that is the kind of security ideas that dude
practices by not using the facilty at all thusly not effected by the
side^bad effects of the facility.

 These days media loves to make things sensational and thusly
we see such news and such people prospering. There are people on this
list and other lists who are better "hackers" than AF can ever dream
about. Thanks to FOSS, I have met some people who are best in their
fields - be it C/C++/OS/Hardware/PHP/Mobile/Linguists/Art/Flamewar/etc
;). AF doesn't come last in that list. He has the blessings of Media
and corporate, so good for him. Not good for this young crowd who are
so fascinated by the word "hack" without even caring to know the real
meaning of that word.

 Anecdote - Some one year back or so,  Roshan B ( people from
ilug-BOM should know him well ), asked me to give a talk on KDE at his
college. So I went, I gave my talk, showed them some foobar and as a
sidenote - I told them about GSoC and about this guy called "Sharan"
who as KDE GSoCer from Mumbai who has now become a Umbrello *hacker*.

  On my way back, one of the students accompanied me to Kurla
station. As we were walking towards the platform the dude asks me -

  Dude : so this Sharan is a hacker?
  Me : ummm, yes but what do you mean by hacker?
  D : well, does he stop the internet clock and downloads
everything? And does he reboots other's PCs?
  M : ROFLMAO ( in my mind )

 Thank GOD, there was railing on the footover bridge, I was
tempted to jump off ;). When I told this to Sharan, he of course felt
insulted and that he should be called only a "cracker" ;)

 So thats it, call yourself a hacker if you want but attaching
ethical to it makes no sense to some of us, imo.

 Cheers!

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[ilugd] KDE Project of the Day @ FOSS.IN/2008

2008-10-19 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hey,

   I just submitted a KDE Project of the Day proposal [1] for
FOSS.IN/2008. Thanks Sharan for helping me out with the proposal.
Please feel free to send in your comments and opinions.

   [1] http://xinh.org/~pradeepto/fossin/kde-potd.txt

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Re: [ilugd] Openmoko, Symbian, Android

2008-10-06 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Android? Would the C/C++ thingy be a negative mark for Openmoko? I

 I don't understand that question. And what C/C++ thingy?

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Re: [ilugd] (Fw) FOSS.IN agenda for this year

2008-10-06 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe we should also go back to the Freedel days. :-)

If you mean, freedel like the first freed in September last
year, then yes. Please yes. I enjoyed it much more than the second
one. Nothing wrong with the second one but just that themes narrow
down the topics that we can talk about and such. freed/freedel rocks
anyways!!!

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Re: [ilugd] (Fw) FOSS.IN agenda for this year

2008-10-02 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> much recognition we get from gora's.

  Recognition from Gora Mohanty is a cool thing, imho. No idea
what grudge you have against him. You even wanted to add Gulabjaamun
syrup in his beer can, iirc. ;) .

  Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] Can we code in Hindi ??

2008-09-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM, narendra sisodiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Narendra,
>> I think that you just concluded something (on similar lines) to we
>> should stop teaching maths, physics, chemistry etc to anyone in
>> non-english medium schools because anyways most of the content
>> available for these subjects is not available in their local
>> language..
>>
> EXACTLY -- 100% upto the point and very practical thought.

How and why is that practical? Do you really mean that?

We have very ancient texts and proven knowledge on Maths,
Science, Medicine, Astronomy, Literature all written in Sanskrit,
Pali, and other languages.  Those were not practical? Last I checked,
we are still using Zero, and Ayurveda among other things. Those were
taught in "native" language during those times, btw. And we didn't
have english medium schools then and for a long time until then.
Probably not until sometime in/and around 1700s or even later.

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS/Hindi/Aliens/Ballu/Code/iLugd

2008-09-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

2008/9/23 narendra sisodiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * writing software with hindi/bangla keywords in not a useful task and will
> make gap between us.

 What is this gap you are talking about?

>
> * making software with hindi interrface may be useful to some papulation but
> still they can work with english interface software, provide we have given
> good teaching to them.

 Err? Why? I have met so many Germans, who use only German
UI. Infact, my very good friend who is on this list even, uses a
German UI since he learnt some German some months back. In case you
were not aware,  they even have slightly modified keyboard for their
umlaut. I have seen Koreans using KDE translated in Korean. I have
seen Karunkar using Hindi UI, Runa Bangla UI, Kartik using Gujarati
UI. Ravi blogs only in Hindi afaics. Sri Ramadoss just finished
translating complete works for RMS in to Tamil. SMC is flighting to
make sure every bit of computing is done in Malayalam.  Oh and guess
what - they comprise of people ranging from a student to a farmer. I
kid you not. KDE 4.1 translation for Malayalam was done by a farmer
along with many others. You really think, he will tell his family,
villagers, fellow farmers to use computers in English? Btw, now afaik,
they are now translating GNOME into Malayalam to make it to the
impending release.

>
> * but Making content (in hindi or Hinglish) which tell how to use computer
> as tool will be best for all such Indian,

  Err? What is basis of this statement? I am quite sure
there are many who can't read/write Hindi. Probably you mean, content
in local languages, then I am all for it anyway.

> And I saw, one desktop manager in hindi,. For working with hidni Deskhop, I
> need to take a hindi to english dictionary . Those Hindi words were very
> difficult for me and nobody use in common language ..
> what will you say now, having such localized software is useful??

   But that is your problem. Not the person who knows the
native language well. As I said, some one somewhere deep in one corner
of India, appreciates the localised software. And I gave ample
examples, look around you carefully, you might find more people doing
the same.

>
> My nephew work mostly on compyter by the help of indentifying icons.. How a
> text matter in the case we are highly addictive to GUI.

Who is we here?

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Re: [ilugd] Can we code in Hindi ??

2008-09-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

2008/9/23 narendra sisodiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> lol,
> Its not possible,
> why you forget about documentation ?? will  documentation be in English

  Why? It can be in any language, how does that matter?

> why you forget about variable names??
> If I code in hindi, with hindi vaibles, such as "mera_ank" that might not
> make any meaning after translation in Telgu.

  Maybe, thats what Parthan and Gaurav were hinting at. A
higher level "universal wrapper" may help/be needed.  Can't you see
that as a mathematical  problem and needs a solution or probably
already has a solution? I am no expert but Natural Language Processing
comes to my mind, please correct me if I am wrong.

>
> writing a code in computer language need some keywords, with logic, native
> language is not useful for code writing.

   Err? You do realise that the "Native Language" you use to
program is US_en. And probably most programming languages do. So what
is wrong with using Hindi/Bangla/German/Chinese instead?

>
> IMHO, a programmer can easily understand these facts.

  And isn't logic independent of language.  IMHO, a programmer
can easily understand these facts.

>
> I will again say, you are diverting new generation to stick/code with local
> language.

Its like saying, Guido diverted a whole generation to code
in Python while Matz did the same but in Ruby.

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Re: [ilugd] Can we code in Hindi ??

2008-09-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:20 PM, narendra sisodiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> coding.
> I wrote in my past mail -- "If something needed for indian , then it is the
> content and tutorial" Better to Go for making "Hinglish Contents" rather
> then "Hindi Software or Hindi Software Language Port"

   Hmm? Hindi software? do you mean, software that has been
localised to Hindi or some other language? If so, what is the problem
with that? Localisation is a good thing, last time I checked.

> One Hindi-wala can contribute in Hindi software, and one "Telgu wala" can
> contribute in Telgu software.. English gives us common platfrom.

But what about the guy in the village deep in -say - West
Bengal - who wants to use a kiosk which tells him the current rate of
whole sale rice or such. He probably doesn't know English but knows to
read Bengali. So he has to learn English so that he gets opportunity
to use a service. He obviously has no time to learn English now. He
wants to work on his farm instead so that he make a living.

 Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-23 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:19 PM, amar akshat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arey ee to humaara messagwa hai ..!!hum hi hain ballu bhaiyaa..!!
>
> --
> V.P , AGE
> Certified Ethical Hacker,

 hmm, what is that? I mean, what is ethical hacking? Never
heard that before.

> Dept. Of Computer Engineering,
> Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech.

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[ilugd] Fwd: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Fwd: Geodesic needs perl hackers

2008-09-21 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
-- Forwarded message --
From: Mrugesh Karnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Fwd: Geodesic needs perl hackers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Fwd:  Geodesic needs perl hackers
Date: Monday 22 Sep 2008
From: "Mrugesh Karnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Linux Bangalore Admin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Geodesic Information Systems Ltd. (http://geodesic.com) is a reputed,
rapidly growing company, listed on the BSE and NSE, and well known for
its Mundu range of products.

We urgently require competent, experienced perl hackers, with both web
and MIS processing experience. Additional experience in things like
Asterisk, web frameworks, etc. are desirable, and should be highlighted.

If you qualify, we want to hear from you. Send your resume to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and make sure to include samples of your work.

Atul Chitnis
Senior Vice President
Geodesic Information Systems Ltd.
http://geodesic.com

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS MS Exchange replacement

2008-07-30 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As the subject says, is there an all-FOSS MS Exchange server
> replacement?  One that does mail and calendaring with LookOut at least.
>
> A built-in (or known to work) web-based mail and calendaring add-on
> would be nice to have

Kolab [1] would be a good thing to look at and investigate
further. With the latest release 2.2, Horde is in there and it has
atleast 3 OL plugins. I use it ( from a clients perspective ) since
some years now.

   Only thing, that I don't like is the openpkg foobar but I don't
deal with it on daily basis or ever. Its for the admin and will
probably will have to configure it once during installation.

   [1] http://kolab.org/

   Cheers!

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[ilugd] [X-Post] KDE 4.1 Videos

2008-05-27 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Heya,

  Here are some nice videos [1] for KDE 4.1. Have a look, they
look really awesome.

  [1] http://www.czessi.de/en/weblog/2008/05/movies-about-kde-4-1-alpha

  Cheers!

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[ilugd] [X-Post] Reliance WiMax

2008-04-15 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

Has anybody use the Reliance WiMax (Broadnet) services? I am
more interested in their services in Mumbai. Good, Bad, Ugly?
Apparently they install separate antenna for each connection. The size
of this is as big as a laptop monitor or such, thats what the
marketing exec told me.

 What I want to know is - 1) compatibility with Linux Boxes
2) does it work during the rainy season? Considering that rains in
Mumbai or Panvel is slightly on the extreme side ;), does it work fine
during the rainy season? I guess the same applies to the DTH setup
even.

 Only reason, I am thinking its worth a try is because I won't
have to depend on availabilty of power and such because I will be
responsible to provide power to the setup which I can in case of load
shedding as well. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml

2008-03-20 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>  Hash: SHA1
>
>
>  Nagarjuna G. wrote:
>  | India's BIS votes against ooxml.  out of 19 members, five of them did not
>  | attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favor of
>  ooxml, and
>  | the rest voted against.
>
>  Congratulations to all those who worked long, worked hard and worked
>  against tremendous odds to make this happen.
>
 +1 . Awesome news.


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Re: [ilugd] Data card support on linux

2008-03-19 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Ajay Tripathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>  Do you have any idea regarding support of datacard. I have TATA USB
>  datacard.Is driver available for this?

   It works out of the box on any decent distribution. I have
been using it for almost 2 years now ( on Kubuntu and OpenSuse  ). I
am mailing you while being connected via a data card, and I am pretty
much connected whole day using the same thing. Works like a charm
across the country ( if there is TATA network ). I know for sure that
there are others - some in this list even - who use it. Karunakar uses
to the plug2surf thingie, iirc. Kartik and Anurag uses it as well. And
between us - we have used 3 distros - debian, kubuntu, opensuse. Not
sure if Anurag figured out how to get it working with FreeBSD as well.

   No extra driver installation required - yeah but you have
to convince the installation dude that you don't want to install
drivers when he insists on doing so :). For dialing, it works with
wvdial, kppp, knetworkmanager.

   Cheers!

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[ilugd] [ Cross Post ] Google Summer of Code '08

2008-03-17 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

  Its time for Google Summer of Code '08. Many of you are already
following it. But just a reminder and a friendly poke incase you
forgot all about it.

  Of course, KDE will be there like previous years.  Check [1] for
more details.

   As a student, all you need is some enthusiasm, willingness to
contribute to KDE and Free Software in general. Knowledge of C++ is
almost taken for granted in KDE GSoC. Knowledge of Qt/KDE/PyQt
framework and programming is a definite ( huge ) plus. If you are
already a contributing code to some KDE application, firstly you r0ck,
nextly you did yourself a huge favour and have HUGE PLUS-PLUS :). It
also works if you have been sending in patches regularly. So if you
are one of them, DO submit a proposal.

  There is a nice *idea* page on the KDE techbase page [2]. Feel
free to browse through that and find something that you like or you
might be able to pull off. *Strong recommendation* - Please be
creative and write your own project proposal. Nothing impresses
mentors more than your own enthusiasm to do something uber cool for
the project. It is million times better if you write your own project
proposal - may be even your own idea that is not there in the idea
page which you think might be a cool feature / addition to KDE -
instead of copying something from the idea page. Its a idea page after
all and not a proposal template page ;).  Please read [3] about
certain instructions of participations in KDE GSoC. I repeat, please
read [3] before applying. It is very detailed and will mostly answer a
lot of your questions and will help you frame your proposal in much
better way.

Last  year KDE GSoC participation [4] [5] was really
wonderful. It got 40 projects sanctioned by Google which probably was
the largest allocation among all the participating projects. There
were 213 proposals submitted to Google and 40 were allocated. 3 of
those 40 students were Indians, you have ask them about their
experiences. I am very sure that they have good things to talk about
the same. Since I have met Piyush and Sharan many times in recent past
after the SoC '07, I know for sure that they ( and Anirrudh, the third
guy ) loved the whole experience and had a blast.

Looking forward to your proposal.  Good luck.

[1]http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/about.html
[2]http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/Ideas
[3]http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/Participation
[4]http://dot.kde.org/1176336589/
[5]http://code.google.com/soc/2007/kde/about.html

 Cheers!

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[ilugd] [Cross Post] Code review tool

2008-01-29 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

http://www.review-board.org/

" For too long, code reviews have been too much of a chore. This is
largely due to the lack of quality tools available, leaving developers
to resort to e-mail and bug tracker-based solutions.

At VMware, we've traditionally done code reviews over e-mail. A
significant amount of time was wasted in forming review requests,
switching between the diff and the e-mail, and trying to understand
what parts of the code the reviewer was referring to. We decided to
fix all that. "

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[ilugd] [Cross Post] Qt 4 now a part of LSB 3.2

2008-01-29 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

-
The Linux Standard Base version 3.2 has been released.  Release notes
are available here:

  https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/ReleaseNotes32

The specification itself is available here:

  http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/

The test suites and SDK can be downloaded from our FTP site.  More
information is available at:

  https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Downloads

This release of the LSB has many fixes and features, including:

 * New "trial use" modules, replacing the former "optional" modules.

 * Initial support for printing.

 * Initial support (as trial use) for ALSA.

 * Support for Perl and Python as first-class languages for Linux apps.

 * Several freedesktop.org standards, including menus and icon themes.

 * Support for the Portland project's xdg-utils as trial use.

 * Promotion of Qt 4 to a required part of the standard, and
deprecation of Qt 3.

 * FreeType support, through both FreeType and the Xft X extension.

 * XRender support.

More details are available in the release notes.

In addition, a new certification process has been introduced in time for
LSB 3.2.
--

 Section 16 [1] should be of interest :)

 
[1]http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Desktop-generic/LSB-Desktop-generic/tocqt.html

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[ilugd] Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [OT] Fwd: [Gnu-arch-users] dear colleagues

2008-01-10 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
-- Forwarded message --
From: Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 10, 2008 4:14 PM
Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [OT] Fwd: [Gnu-arch-users] dear colleagues
To: ILUG-Cal's principal mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


One of the GNU Arch authors have lost his car.

Regards,
Debarshi

-- Forwarded message --
From: Thomas Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Jan 2008 16:53
Subject: [Gnu-arch-users] dear colleagues
To: gnu-arch-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Well, perfect end to a fucked up decade..

Really exciting night!   Someone came pounding on my door to call me
outside.   Turns out, someone has totaled my car while it was parked on
the street for the night.

Why is this exciting?   Because I can't walk much at the moment and that
car was vital to day to day survival.   I wonder how I'll manage to get
groceries tomorrow.

Wait, it gets better.

Being poor, I'm fully paid up and current on lowest available rate
insurance.   So, I called the claims number tonight and, an experience
familiar from the open source world, the number is disconnected.

Watch us drown.

If anyone would like to help either please do so or pass this message
along to someone sensitive who can.

Time is of the essence, if anyone happens to give a damn.


-t



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[ilugd] Fwd: KDE 4.0 Release Event @ India

2008-01-09 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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From: Pradeepto Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 9, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: KDE 4.0 Release Event @ India
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Hi,

We all have been hearing about KDE4 since a long time now.
Time has come now. KDE 4.0.0 will be release 11th and there will be a
release event held in many parts of the globe. The main event [1] will
be held at GOOGPLEX between 17-19th January. But not all can go there
for various reasons. So many smaller events will happen in various
parts of the world [2].

Some of us are planning to do one such event in Mumbai. We
have narrowed down on 20th January, Sunday, easier for most people
here in Mumbai and we get to avoid the traffic. If you have any plans
to do such an event in your town/city you live in, please go ahead and
do it. If you are in Mumbai, stay tuned.

 [1]http://www.kde.org/kde-4.0-release-event/
 [2]http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Events/KDE4ReleaseParties

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Re: [ilugd] Colour management tool

2008-01-02 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

Cool info that, thanks. Very informative.

On Jan 2, 2008 12:28 PM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> pradeepto, hope this helps, and do share with us what you intend to do.
> kappy new kear to the kde team :-)
>

 Sure, right now just playing with scribus . Found your name
all over it ;). I was grokking the scribus wiki for information bumped
into the tutorial you wrote and then this nice doc - "DTP Principles",
then some colour management related link. I recalled that you had
mentioned something about a tool for the same or such.

If anything comes out of my scribus games, I will let you know
:). And thanks for the tutorial, awesomeness.

Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] Colour management tool

2008-01-01 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Jan 1, 2008 10:13 PM, Saleem Ansari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is Agave : http://home.gna.org/colorscheme/
> :-)

  Thanks a lot.

   Cheers!


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[ilugd] Colour management tool

2008-01-01 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

IIRC, Niyam mentioned one nice colour management tool during
freed.in / 07. Does somebody remember that tool's name?

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Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Dec 28, 2007 12:11 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>   Looking at the recent interest in the direction taken
> by Freed.in, I thought that it would be useful to have
> an ILUG-Delhi meeting as soon as possible. Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it
> to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please
> be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard. As time is
> short, this is probably the last meeting at which we can
> consider any major changes for the 2008 event, so do be
> there if you are interested.
>
>   Here are the details:
>Event:   ILUG-Delhi meeting
>Date:Sun., Dec. 30th
>Time:15:00 (3.00pm)
>Agenda:
>  o Direction, and scope for Freed.in
>  o Specific plans for Freed.in, 2008
>Participants: All on this list.
>Venue:   Rm. 1, School of Information Technology,
> Jawaharlal Nehru University.
>Contact person: Me (9868527992)
>

  I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
IRC. That would be great though.

  Cheers!

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