Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On Friday 27 May 2011, krish wrote: > > Mail sent to r...@foo.com reflects immediately in the user's > > webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients, but NOT his BB. > > It may take anything from 15 seconds (acceptable) up to an hour > > (definitely not acceptable) to reach his BB. > > Sent from any domain? Even from foo.com, his own email - self test? > If self test works immediately, then you should check sending email > from some other domain where u have mailserver access and check logs > for delay. > I would also consider if any of the sending domain is greylisted. Like I said, the mail reaches the server and is visible in all clients EXCEPT the BB immediately. If it were a generic e-mail issue it would affect all clients, right? Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On Friday 27 May 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote: > On a different note, what kind of issues are your users facing on > Blackberry? > > From what I've experienced, usually the users prefer the Blackberry > services provided by the service providers such as Vodafone & Airtel. > This means going on airtel's website, entering your server details > and the username and password and it's instantly activated. This > I've personally seen working flawlessly with both Courier and > Dovecot (though dovecot is better), both with self signed SSL > certificates. On the contrary, the apple devices create trouble if > using self signed certificates. > > What's more, if your users are getting trouble connecting via the > service provider's blackberry interface, then you can directly call > up the service provider to assist. They may need the server name, > username and password to test at their end. Since you ask the specific problem goes something like this: We've set up a mail server for the client. The server is handling two domains (say foo.com and bar.com). foo.com has one BB user, while bar.com has many BB users. The foo.com BB user (say ram) has accounts on both domains: r...@foo.com and r...@bar.com. Mail sent to r...@bar.com reflects immediately in the user's webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients AND his BB. Mail sent to r...@foo.com reflects immediately in the user's webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients, but NOT his BB. It may take anything from 15 seconds (acceptable) up to an hour (definitely not acceptable) to reach his BB. Note that the same server and the same software (and the same BB device on the same service provider, for that matter) are handling both scenarios. Some seriously weirdness going on here, and I've asked him to raise a ticket with the service provider (Vodafone, IIRC). Let's see what they say. In the meantime, I'm still looking for a BB to test this on :-) Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On Friday 27 May 2011, krish wrote: > > On the other hand, if there's some internal blackberry server, then > > I'm not too sure about that. But ideally the procedure should be > > the same. > > If its an internal BB server, then you'll need to reset the user > profiles (using BB PIN of users) or reset all users, re-provision the > settings and then test. Nope, it's the service provider's BB server. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On Friday 27 May 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote: > Do not have access to a Blackberry, nor an idea of what it would > cost. However, depending on what issues you are facing, it might > not be enough to have the handset, as it is difficult to debug on > one. > > You could start with trying the application out in a simulator. > Unfortunately, that means Microsoft Windows, maybe in a > virtual machine. There are ways of working with the Blackberry > SDK in Linux, but I have not actually tried them out: > http://www.slashdev.ca/2008/04/03/blackberry-development-using-linux/ > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1492403/how-to-build-blackberry-ap > plication-on-linux Heh, the problem isn't critical enough (for me at least) to warrant that sort of effort. In the final run, if the client's BB refuses to behave after basic testing from my end, I'm putting the ball in his court. After all, SMTP, SMTP AUTH, POP3 and IMAP4 are working fine on all other clients, so there's no reason for me to bang my head against a proprietary wall for some obscure device. On the bright side, at least they're not using cryPhones. In passing, that's the difference between setting up a "Corporate E-mail Service" and a "Mail Server". The first would involve solving all his problems on all his devices, the latter ends with proving that everything works on the server and a handful of clients. Of course, the former is 7 figures, while the latter is just 6! Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On Thursday 26 May 2011, Smruti wrote: > 2011/5/26 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) > > > If not, how much would (a) a cheap Blackberry cost and (b) someone > > be willing to buy it for after I've done with it? :) > > I am sure you must have looked, still just in case you haven't, try > ebay. > > A quick search shows price range starting from 2000. Though not sure > what OS version you are looking for, may be you can find a seller in > Delhi and check it out before buying. I'm a bit leery about buying stuff online, specially so after the CCAvenue debacle. Call me paranoid and/or a Luddite, but I prefer both my social networking (such as it is) and my purchases to be in the real world rather than online. Thanks for the research IAC! Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
Hi, Someone have a Blackberry that they're not using and which they're willing to loan/rent out for a week or so? Clients are complaining about Blackberry issues on a mail server I've setup, and I need one to replicate and test. If not, how much would (a) a cheap Blackberry cost and (b) someone be willing to buy it for after I've done with it? :) Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: > Yeah, I was also looking around for a command-line tool that will > allow me to test authentication against PAM. Neither of the two > tools I could find on the 'net (pamck and pamauth) seem to be easily > available, keeping on looking. For the record... Looks like testsaslauthd which ships with Cyrus-SASL lets one check user ID and password from the command-line. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Varad Gupta wrote: > > I'm trying to set up an IMAP server for virtual users with the > > following characteristics: > > - Server is handling multiple mail domains, say "foo.com" and > > "bar.com". > > > > - Mail for x...@foo.com gets delivered to system user x.foo.com; mail > > for x...@bar.com gets delivered to system user x.bar.com. > > > > Now is it possible to have an IMAP server handle logins of the form > > "x...@foo.com" and "x...@bar.com" and authenticate them against the > > corresponding system users "x.foo.com" and "x.bar.com"? A > > non-database solution would be preferred. So I finally solved the problem by automagically creating Courier user x...@foo.com and system user x.foo.com when required. This is achieved through a set of 4 Webmin Custom Command scripts which I'll be releasing under the GPL. The scripts are: 1. Create user (automatically creates system and Courier users) 2. Change password (automatically changes system and Courier passwords) 3. Show users in domain 4. Delete user (from both system and Courier) It's a bit of a hack, but it takes the user mapping process out of runtime and into user creation time, which seems preferable. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
On Sunday 22 May 2011, Abhishek Kumar wrote: > why do you want to use /etc/password. use some enterprise directory > to authenticate against. > > For an enterprise if it is large (or grows to lare enterprise ) > having /etc/password replicated everywhere and in sync would be > calling for trouble. > > use PAM + Openldap for directory and any authentication > server(preferably kerberos or SAML based ) to authenticate. this > would also help in lot of povisoning scenarions. In very simple terms, (a) I'm not being paid enough to implement enterprise authentication, and (b) the organisation doesn't want it. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Varad Gupta wrote:
> Pls see =>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.courier.general/27589
>
> You can replace the SQL statements with grep/awk on /etc/passwd
>
> These and other similar lines will need to be replaced =>
>
> SQL=($(dosql "SELECT uid,pw,mpath,mquota FROM passwd WHERE
> uid='$ID'"))
>
>
> SQL=($(dosql "SELECT uid,pw,mpath,mquota FROM passwd WHERE uid='$ID'
> AND pw='$PW'"))
>
> To test if the passwd is correct (auth is OK), you can use the
> openssl command to generate an md5 hash and match with /etc/shadow
> (here i am assuming you script will run as root and can read
> /etc/shadow). There might be other ways to do this, but this one
> struck me easily.
Yeah, I was also looking around for a command-line tool that will allow
me to test authentication against PAM. Neither of the two tools I could
find on the 'net (pamck and pamauth) seem to be easily available,
keeping on looking.
As a last resort one could use direct auth against {passwd,shadow}, but
that would be absolutely the last resort. I'd rather make a Perl PAM
script that does that before going into grep & co!
Regards,
-- Raj
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Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Varad Gupta wrote: > > I'm trying to set up an IMAP server for virtual users with the > > following characteristics: > > > > - Server is handling multiple mail domains, say "foo.com" and > > "bar.com". > > > > - Mail for x...@foo.com gets delivered to system user x.foo.com; mail > > for x...@bar.com gets delivered to system user x.bar.com. > > > > Now is it possible to have an IMAP server handle logins of the form > > "x...@foo.com" and "x...@bar.com" and authenticate them against the > > corresponding system users "x.foo.com" and "x.bar.com"? A > > non-database solution would be preferred. > If using courier-imap and therefore courier-authlib, you can use the > authpipe authentication module and accomplish the above. Thanks. Yes, I was planning to use Courier if possible. However, documentation on authpipe seems to be scanty, and I'm not too familiar with Courier beyond the basic one-to-one IMAP/POP auth against PAM. Any pointers to documents and/or examples? Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users
Hi, I'm trying to set up an IMAP server for virtual users with the following characteristics: - Server is handling multiple mail domains, say "foo.com" and "bar.com". - Mail for x...@foo.com gets delivered to system user x.foo.com; mail for x...@bar.com gets delivered to system user x.bar.com. Now is it possible to have an IMAP server handle logins of the form "x...@foo.com" and "x...@bar.com" and authenticate them against the corresponding system users "x.foo.com" and "x.bar.com"? A non-database solution would be preferred. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Tuesday 17 May 2011, Bharat Verma via LinkedIn wrote: > Bharat Verma requested to add you as a connection on Added: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi- bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData (http://preview.tinyurl.com/2b4m3yv) -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Seek information regarding Linux Bangalore chapter
On Monday 16 May 2011, neeraj kumar wrote: > I am In Bangalore and want to know that any group like Linux Delhi is > active over here which I can join and contribute. There's ILUG Bengaluru, with a mailing list at: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru?hl=en and sporadic meetings. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] When customers own the brand...
Request list admin to block this address from spamming the list. Regards, -- Raj On Wednesday 27 Apr 2011, Blogworks wrote: > When customers own the brand... -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Symbian not open-source anymore
Now Nokia has come out with a different spin on their licensing for Symbian, which removes it completely from the FOSS domain. And I had so happily bought myself a Nokia/Symbian phone thinking, "Chalo, at least the core OS is FOSS!" Very disappointing. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110402143136766 Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Large Debian installations in India
On Sunday 03 Apr 2011, gurteshwar singh wrote: > 1) Regarding support and access: Setting up telephony systems is not > such an easy job and messing them up seems to be even easier. So my > question is how much of access do you give the organisation's > in-house support team on your servers. Do you for example take the > risk of asterisk config files getting messed by somebody at your > client's location? Or do you only expose only the dynamic parts of > the system (adding users, retrieving call recordings etc). I imagine > it would be mandatory to give them root access. Is that correct? If > yes, then is it the case of implementing as many safeguards as you > can? Support falls into two categories: 1. Operational support -- diagnosing and fixing problems, adding resources, monitoring, etc. 2. Provisioning -- adding desktops, configuring for specific users, adding Asterisk accounts, etc. For the first we've tried to create base documentation which the client's tech team can use to monitor, diagnose and fix common problems. Out of the whole tech team, there are two people who have the authorisation to login as root onto the Asterisk servers and run diagnostics and fixes. One has years of Unix experience, the other is a Windows wiz-kid who's learning Linux and seems, so far, to be enjoying it. He paid me the ultimate compliment the other day, saying he was -- and I quote -- "the Raj Mathur of Windows". Provisioning is handled completely through scripts. Asterisk provisioning is handled by keeping base configurations in immutable files, which #include the files that contain the changing information. These dynamic files (user extensions, user-level call routing, inward routing, etc.) are again generated through scripts and copied by one of the two people mentioned above to the appropriate place in the Asterisk servers on a regular basis. Provisioning of desktops for a specific user is completely scripted: login as guest, ssh to a specific account on a defined server which will prompt you for an employee ID, enter the ID, sit back for 2 minutes and the machine you were on is provisioned for that employee. There's still lots of scope for improvement here, but we're in no hurry to implement systems piece-meal. The organisation has an IT strategy, and the voice system processes too will get streamlined as dependent portions of the strategy fall into place. For instance, once HR processes are in place, Asterisk user provisioning will automatically become a part of those. Of course, we would have shifted to Asterisk Realtime (dynamic configurations from a database rather than static configurations from file) too by then. > 2) Licensing: How do you go about explaining them the license. Do you > just list major parts like asterisk and debian and tell them we used > this and its licensed under so and so foss license? Is there detailed > written license documentation to be provided or just providing links > to licenses sufficient? Actually that is one thing we haven't had any issues with, since the CTO understands FOSS licensing. The only time we had to explain things was when he saw me writing a script and putting the GPL clause at the top. However I explained to him that licensing and releasing were two different things, and just because the script was GPL didn't mean that he had to give it to anyone for the asking. I think the point got through. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
On Sunday 03 Apr 2011, Andrew Lynn wrote: > [snip] > Please - at least - write up this aspect of the project as a white > paper that we can circulate to govt. funded intstitutions. If you > need help with the non-technical documentation and research, I can > see if some students from our university can get involved in doing > it as research project. Would be glad to do that provided (a) the client gets discretionary control on the contents of the paper and (b) someone tells me what a white paper is actually supposed to contain. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
On Sunday 03 Apr 2011, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Raju Mathur said on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 08:35:08AM +0530,: > > installed is from the standard Debian repositories -- Testing on > > the servers, and Stable on the clients. As far as I know, > > there's nothing > > I find this choice rather strange. It is usually the other way around > stable on servers and testing (even unstable / experimental) on > clients. > > Why? > > Is it because they are not using the typical desktop / office / > productivity suites? Testing on servers since we needed the latest packages. Stable on desktops since it's, er, stable :) Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
On Sunday 03 Apr 2011, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Raju Mathur said on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:22:09PM +0530,: > > Once again, sorry to dash cold water on expectations > > I fully agree and concur with the need to protect the client's > privacy / terms of contract. Thank you for understanding. > 1. Debian has 3 sections - "main", "non-free" and "contrib". The >classification is based on licensing /and/ freeness of >dependencies. Apart from hardware specific packages, anything that >is not in Debian? The only non-repository packages we installed (which were also FOSS, BTW) were dealing with drivers for the specific PSTN interface equipment connected to the Asterisk servers. Apart from that, everything installed is from the standard Debian repositories -- Testing on the servers, and Stable on the clients. As far as I know, there's nothing from Non-free either, with the exception of some ethernet firmware needed by newer servers. > 2. Debian takes pride in packaging anything with a free (as in >freedom) license. Did you have to customise any package? (in any >way - like recompile against a specific library version; rebuild a >kernel,e tc) ? As above, only the specific drivers and tools for the PSTN interface hardware was compiled from source. > 3. What was the documentation about? As you have rightly pointed, the >community has no use for documentation on things like reducing / >elevating user privileges within the installation. Or how they >manage the sudoers group. Oh, some scripting done, how to use the scripts effectively, what files to provide the scripts in what format, how to diagnose telephony problems, etc. For instance, I'd mentioned that we use separate servers for SIP registrations and PSTN dial-out, so diagnosing a tele-sales officer not being able to call is a multi-step process -- can she ping the SIP server? Is her phone registered? Is her user ID available in the server? Is the SIP server registered with the PSTN server? Are calls coming up to the SIP server? Are they being passed to the PSTN server? Is a PSTN line down? Is a PRI misbehaving? As you can see, each individual step is quite generic, while the whole diagnostic process is completely tailored to the client's specific architecture and would probably not be very useful in another context. > Actually, I should confess that you had to do any documentation at > all - I do an occasional single PC install, and most of > documentation is available on the F! key. But of course, we are not > comparing cats and horses! Being a good coder (I think!), I cordially detest having to do documentation, while I fully support /other/ programmers documenting their code and processes to the fullest extent possible :) Tirveni's much better at documenting stuff than I am, thank $deity! Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
On Friday 01 Apr 2011, Yashpal Nagar wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Manish wrote: > > This is great. Congratulations! Are you also planning to document > > the experience and approach as a case study suitable for PHBs? > > Looking forward to see it in the likes of DQ, PCQ, LFYs, Profit > > etc. > > It is amusing to read the whole story of FOSS's ability and the > potential it have. The complete debian desktop within 10min over the > network with only a network port as requirement is panacea for the > industry like 'call centres' where bringing up the machine ASAP is > always high on demand. I'm sure you must have done some tailoring > while deciding on the packages to have in the image, please share > some details on that as well. Once again, sorry to dash cold water on expectations (though with the mercury rising cold water isn't such a bad thing!), but we /are/ bound by verbal NDAs to the client. Whatever is generic (and doesn't take too much effort to put into publishable form) can be shared. Whatever is specific to the client, or reveals aspects of his operations or strategy, is absolutely confidential... I wouldn't want to breach anyone's trust, and I'm sure you wouldn't want me to do that either. I apologise for us coming off as information hoarders (though I do believe that whatever we've done and are doing is aligned with the spirit and intent of freedom in software); on the other hand, when we agreed to do the project we made a commitment to the client, and that is not a commitment that we can retrospectively withdraw from. The only alternative was to not make the commitment and not do the project, but WTH, if we hadn't done the project this discussion wouldn't have arisen anyway. Thanks for all the congratulations, folks! After the money they make life in the FOSS world worth living :) Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
On Friday 01 Apr 2011, Vikas Rawal wrote: > > L1 and hopefully L2 support will be handled within the > > organisation. T and I have been working on documenting standard > > procedures, and in the past 2 months or so most of them have been > > handed over to the client's support team, along with some scripts > > that make life easier for them > > Do you/company plan to make some of this documentation available for > use to wider community or will they be only for the company? I would > think a lot of people would be interested in such documentation. Well, a lot of the documentation is specific for our client's operations, and I doubt if we'd be allowed to release that, and even if we were it would be of limited usefulness to anyone else. Apart from that there is some documentation on setting up various types of systems; now that we could hypothetically release, but again there's tons of client-specific stuff embedded into that. In general, then, the answer to your question would be "no". However, I really haven't examined the docs with a microscope so far to see which would be generic enough to release (and be useful), so I guess we could take the decision on a case by case basis -- if the opportunity comes up to solve a problem by sharing a doc, and if the doc is generic enough, we'd have no problem in releasing it. The real issue here is that one of the things the client paid us to do was document. I see no easy way to take those commissioned documents and release them generally without the client's consent. In any case Tirveni and I are available to share whatever we've learnt if anyone asks a specific related question. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [LONG] Re: Large Debian installations in India
Background: The client is a large call-out business headquartered in NOIDA with call centres in 5 other cities in India, including New Delhi. At the time we started, they had no IT or automation on the call floor at all. Before you see the words "call centre" and freak out, let me assure you that this is one of those professional ones -- any telecaller found calling a DNC number is immediately and publicly terminated. In fact, preventing calling of DNC was one of the reasons they wanted to give up manual calling and switch to an IT solution where call-outs could be controlled. All the implementation decisions were taken by Tirveni and I in conjunction with the client's technical team. We decided to go with Asterisk for the telephony part and Linux desktops with headsets for the tele-callers. To answer the specific questions Sudhanwa and Nirmalya put up: On Thu, 3/31/11, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > A. On what parameters selection of a particular distro is done. > Pricing, support, stability etc. etc. The key element here was stability and availability of packages. Pure desktop distributions were ruled out due to their (typical) quick obsolescence and, to some extent, lack of testing. This left the enterprise-grade distributions like RH, CentOS and Debian. RH and CentOS don't have the wide variety of packages that Debian offers, so we decided on Debian. Of course, our own affinity for Debian may have played some part in that decision :) > B. Is the decision taken by some central IT department and > imposed on all others or is it coming from user requirements across > the country? The decision was made at headquarters. As I said, the organisation is pretty raw where IT maturity is concerned, and having a strong, technically sound, experienced CTO at the helm more or less defined the direction for the whole company. Of course, business decisions are still made at the operations level, so the technology strategy has to ensure that it's in sync with and can service business requirements in what is, after all, a very dynamic environment. > C. How the organisation is going to get support? Inhouse? services > from vendors or consultants? Outsourced activity completely? L1 and hopefully L2 support will be handled within the organisation. T and I have been working on documenting standard procedures, and in the past 2 months or so most of them have been handed over to the client's support team, along with some scripts that make life easier for them (e.g. quickly make new users -- you wouldn't believe the employee turnover these call centres have!). We still handle some L2 and most L3 support, and that is likely to be the model going forward too. Incidentally, anyone with Linux technical competence interested in a job? ;-) > D. What is the typical configuration of desktops, servers. Desktops are commodity 2GB RAM, 3GHz Pentium dual-core machines. They seem to be handling plain voice telephony over SIP just fine. Servers are much larger -- Asterisk needs a load of power to handle 1000 simultaneous users, and we've split up functionality so that the SIP handling and the PSTN connectivity are done by different servers. Servers are typically 2x4 core or 4x4 core Xeon class boxes with SAS disks. > E. What was the timeframe to complete the project? We started around mid-December (2010), got the servers by mid-Jan and had one centre live on Asterisk within about 15 days of that. Planning out the architecture in advance made a lot of difference to the overall speed of implementation. Tirveni did tons of preseed magic on the desktop front, and we now have a process where you can put a bare machine on the LAN, select "Boot from network" (PXE boot) and have a working, customised Debian desktop ready for use in 10 minutes. > F. What are the most troublesome situations you face during the whole > exercise. Technical, manpower handling, financial etc. AFAIR, the most troublesome portions were (a) handling user creation, (b) changing business requirements and (c) diagnosing and fixing Asterisk-PSTN issues remotely. User creation went through multiple phases of streamlining, until now we have a process by which a support person can login to a desktop, run a command, feed in the user ID, get it validated against a central database and have the desktop ready for the user in about 30 seconds. It's still not perfect, but we're getting there. As mentioned before, business requirements keep changing, and keeping up with them is quite a challenge. This is not due to lack of foresight on the organisation's part -- just that business needs, TRAI regulations, security issues, mandatory controls, etc. are so dynamic. And if you're sitting in NOIDA and trying to manage an Asterisk box connected to the PSTN 2000KM away, I have one word of advice: don't! We're learning as we go along, but Asterisk diagnostics are cryptic to say the least, and telcos are typ
Re: [ilugd] Request for suggestion for setting up Asterisk based call-center
On Tuesday 22 Mar 2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: > > 2011/3/21 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) : > >> On Monday 21 Mar 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote: > >>> > In other words, you need an "air gap" (the words from the > >>> > document that defined this restriction) between your network > >>> > and the rest of the world. As you say, connecting your own > >>> > network to your PSTN is perfectly legal. > > In simple terms, you are not allowed to connect your VOIP network to > the Telecom network/s (landlines,mobiles etc) > > You can use VOIP completely on your EPABX but can not integrate it > with the other Telco lines. Umm, I'm not so sure about that. The law doesn't mandate that you have to use fixed phone lines within your organisation to connect to the PSTN. To the best of my knowledge, you're perfectly within your rights to terminate your PSTN PRIs in an Asterisk box and give your employees VoIP phones to connect to that Asterisk box and subsequently to the PSTN. The problem only arises if you provide VoIP <-> PSTN connectivity as a service to anyone outside your immediate organisation. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Request for suggestion for setting up Asterisk based call-center
On Monday 21 Mar 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote: > > In other words, you need an "air gap" (the words from the document > > that defined this restriction) between your network and the rest > > of the world. As you say, connecting your own network to your > > PSTN is perfectly legal. > > I have always been confused about this "air gap" business: Is it then > OK to have some RF transponder, e.g. WiFi (no idea if bandwidth > requirements can be met), bridging the gap. Well, the "air gap" here conceptually precedes WiFi technologies and refers to a physical disconnect between two separate networks. If you bring WiFi, RF and microwaves into the picture, maybe we should be talking about a plastic/lead wall gap. In other words, the "air gap" essentially exists to prevent the organisation's PSTN/VoIP network interacting with a network belonging to any other entity, be it the Internet, another organisation or even an individual. > Well, your first name is only one edit-distance away from Raja, > so can I buy some spectrum? Paanch hazaar crore bhej do, tender jaldi khulwa denge. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Request for suggestion for setting up Asterisk based call-center
On Monday 21 Mar 2011, gurteshwar singh wrote: > Basically what is illegal to do in terms of VoIP is to say have a > PSTN/ISDN line plugged into your voip server and then lease that out > to somebody over IP. In effect selling it as a DID number over IP. > Most other cases are perfectly legal. There's tons of EPABX systems > being sold from vendors like Simens, NEC, etc for years. You plug in > an outside line, which could be PSTN or ISDN and distribute calls to > your extensions (either through IP or TDM). For IP, these systems > (Siemens for eg) come with some sort of a LAN card, which lets you > plugin that massive EPABX box on to your LAN switch and route all > incoming traffic to your softswitch (Asterisk for eg) and then > distribute calls to extensions which maybe IP phones or softphones. In other words, you need an "air gap" (the words from the document that defined this restriction) between your network and the rest of the world. As you say, connecting your own network to your PSTN is perfectly legal. Of course, the law itself exists purely to protect the erstwhile VSNL and similar organisations from "unfair" competition from the Internet. Unfair to whom, I wonder? VoIP is certainly fair to the population of India, who are currently needlessly being denied access to new paradigms of communication purely to protect some vested interests. OK, enough ranting, back to Asterisk hacking ;-) Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Saturday 19 Mar 2011, Pankaj Swami via LinkedIn wrote: > LinkedIn > Pankaj Swami requested to add you as a connection on > LinkedIn: -- Added to: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Nokia xpressmusic 5800 as Bluetooth modem
On Saturday 19 Mar 2011, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: > sdptool shows the "Dialup Networking" group having channel 22. With > the necessary change in rfcomm.conf I can use cu to connect fine to > the phone and get AT commands OKed back from it. wvdial is > dialling, now I just need to figure out the dial strings, login, > etc. for Vodafone. And to follow-up on my own post, all you need to give to wvdial for Vodafone is the phone number to dial: *99***1# Complete wvdial.conf stanza for dialling Vodafone from your PC through the Nokia XpressMusic 5800 bluetooth is: [Dialer Hutch] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATE1Q0 Modem = /dev/rfcomm0 Baud = 900 FlowControl = Hardware (CRTSCTS) Dial Command = ATDT Stupid Mode = 1 Password = anything Username = anything Phone = *99***1# Thanks to all who took the time to help, special thanks to Vivek and Vikas. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Nokia xpressmusic 5800 as Bluetooth modem
On Saturday 19 Mar 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:50:57 +0530, "Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)"
>
> wrote:
> > That doesn't work, unfortunately. Just an ATX3 in cu also closes
> > the connection with an error. As you would expect, wvdial whines
> > about "Modem not responding".
> >
> > Incidentally, my GSM provider is Vodafone.
>
> Well, need to have a 5800 to experiment. Though you must have done it
> right, for me it was channel 2 and not channel 1.
>
> rfcomm0 {
> bind yes;
> device 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:D0;
> channel 2;
> comment "Nokia PPP connect";
> }
>
> Using `sdptool browse 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:D0` I got the channel number
> from "Dialup Networking" group. Also, the baud was 57600 in my
> wvdial config, though I don't think that would have any impact.
W00t! That did it!
sdptool shows the "Dialup Networking" group having channel 22. With the
necessary change in rfcomm.conf I can use cu to connect fine to the
phone and get AT commands OKed back from it. wvdial is dialling, now I
just need to figure out the dial strings, login, etc. for Vodafone.
Thanks a ton, I owe you one!
Regards,
-- Raj
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Re: [ilugd] Nokia xpressmusic 5800 as Bluetooth modem
On Saturday 19 Mar 2011, Vikas Rawal wrote: > > Trying to use my Nokia XpressMusic as a Bluetooth modem under > > Debian GNU/Linux with no luck. > > I have, in the past, used blueman with network-manager, to connect > Nokia 5800 to my debian laptop. > > Bluetooth setup on my laptop is currently broken and I have not had > the time to look into it. But I remember I had googled around and > after some struggle managed to make it work. > > In sum, blueman+network-manager is an option to consider. Blueman up and running (though it refuses to transfer files between phone and computer despite both being nicely paired with each other). Installed NetworkManager, which is not showing any usable wireless device tabs for some reason. Maybe a reboot will help, will work on it. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Nokia xpressmusic 5800 as Bluetooth modem
On Saturday 19 Mar 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote: > Cannot say for sure about 5800, but used the following in E61 & E70 > and worked flawlessly. > For using 3G (and even EDGE/GPRS), the following works in the init > string > > AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pps3g","",0,0 > > via wvdial. The 'pps3g' is the APN (for MTNL). Not sure what's it for > Airtel. > > An excerpt of the wvdial conf that I use is > > Modem = /dev/rfcomm0 > Init = ATX3 > Init2 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pps3g","",0,0 > Phone = *99# That doesn't work, unfortunately. Just an ATX3 in cu also closes the connection with an error. As you would expect, wvdial whines about "Modem not responding". Incidentally, my GSM provider is Vodafone. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Nokia xpressmusic 5800 as Bluetooth modem
Hi, Trying to use my Nokia XpressMusic as a Bluetooth modem under Debian GNU/Linux with no luck. The computer and the phone are paired. Rfcomm (configured through /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf) works: ~# rfcomm show rfcomm0 rfcomm0: th:is:ph:on:em:ac channel 1 clean /dev/rfcomm0 exists fine: crw-rw 1 root dialout 216, 0 Mar 19 09:10 /dev/rfcomm0 cu(1) can connect to the phone (yes, I'm in dialout group): ~$ cu -s 9600 -l /dev/rfcomm0 Connected. But nothing works after that. A few seconds after I type in AT followed by any other character the connection closes: cu: write: Input/output error Disconnected Tried wvdial and minicom also, with no success. Tried other speeds, including 19200, 38400, 115200, also with no success. No application has been able to get a response to AT from the phone. Any tips/pointers, apart from trying another program to test? I really want to get this going to be able to use 3G with the laptop while on the move, without having to mess with dongles and cables. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Have not been getting mails from the list for few weeks
On Thursday 17 Mar 2011, Alok Sinha wrote: > I do get them - but, i suspect the traffic has significantly > reduced. BTW: Long time :) > > Raj: Your views ?? List is working fine, message density can be seen in graphical form at: http://gmane.org/details.php?group=gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi If you are having issues receiving mails you should do the following: 1. Go to the archive and compare the messages there against the messages in your inbox. 2. If there is a discrepancy, check your spam folder or equivalent. 3. If there is still a discrepancy, report the issue to the list administrator (which isn't me, BTW). Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:12456] What competition can do !!!
On Sunday 06 Mar 2011, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Raju Mathur said on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 08:19:41AM +0530,: > > On Sunday 06 Mar 2011, A. Mani wrote: > > > See http://lwn.net/Articles/430098/ > > > > > > It is a GPL violation. > > > > Maybe I'm short-sighted, but I don't really see how it is a GPL > > violation. The GPL doesn't state anything about providing > > explicit patches vs one monolithic source. As long as the RH > > modifications are appropriately commented and documented, it's > > very much within the letter of the GPL. > > > > Sure, it may violate the spirit to some extent, and it's not a > > move I'd have wanted to see if anyone had asked my opinion, but I > > doubt if there is any legal obstacle to RH doing things this way. > > And how does this violate teh spirit of the GPL? > > The mainline kernel itself accepts binary only blobs / module / code > / . And it worse that these blobs are under > no-modification licences. > > You do not require a non-s/w guy like me to remind you that if source > code is available, it is trivial, and in any sense of the term, much > possible to de-obfuscate it. Let's leave other issues with the kernel aside for a moment -- because the kernel accepts non-free blobs doesn't make any other violation of the spirit of the GPL acceptable. And Redhat's tactic does violate the spirit of the GPL by making it that much harder for users of RH kernels to, for instance, apply selective patches. I'm not claiming that it's not possible to de-obfuscate what RH has done; on the other hand, deliberately packaging your kernel source in a way that makes it more difficult to modify, customise and extend is, IMO, a definite violation of the spirit of the GPL. The only reason I could find for RH doing this was to make the entry bar stiffer for competition -- there are zero technical merits for doing things this way. I'm sorry, but going out of your way to make your code less easy to digest for your competition is a strategy practised by purveyors of proprietary software. Finally, I have nothing but respect for RH, specially in the context of India where they have helped achieve so many significant milestones. On the other hand, I wouldn't practise closed-minded jingoism supporting their case regardless of the merits and demerits of any individual action either. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:12456] What competition can do !!!
On Sunday 06 Mar 2011, A. Mani wrote: > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:53 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote: > > The following has been an interesting read > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-surrounds-Red-Ha > > t-s-obfuscated-source-code-release-1200554.html > > See http://lwn.net/Articles/430098/ > > It is a GPL violation. Maybe I'm short-sighted, but I don't really see how it is a GPL violation. The GPL doesn't state anything about providing explicit patches vs one monolithic source. As long as the RH modifications are appropriately commented and documented, it's very much within the letter of the GPL. Sure, it may violate the spirit to some extent, and it's not a move I'd have wanted to see if anyone had asked my opinion, but I doubt if there is any legal obstacle to RH doing things this way. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Fetching geographical data
On Thursday 03 Mar 2011, Subhranath Chunder wrote: > Hi, > > I need to fetch some Geographical data like, the latitude and > longitude of all the cities in a country, maybe grouped into states. The most comprehensive list I've seen is: http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/country_files.html This includes data for all countries except .us. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Vikash Ruhil wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Vikash Ruhil > > Vikash Ruhil > IT Security consaltant at Xiarch Solutions Pvt. Ltd. > New Delhi Area, India The IT Security consultant has been added to: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Good news for you!
On Wednesday 02 Mar 2011, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > 2011/3/2 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) : > > On Tuesday 01 Mar 2011, Mayank wrote: > >> Make your life happier!. > >> http://www.vaca-loca.biz/links.php?eaolid=573 > > > > Added to: > > http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWit > > hYourPersonalData > > His account has been cracked... Bad luck for him then... Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Good news for you!
On Tuesday 01 Mar 2011, Mayank wrote: > Make your life happier!. > http://www.vaca-loca.biz/links.php?eaolid=573 Added to: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] When customers own the brand...
I strongly suggest you make your spam list by invitation only, otherwise you're likely to be the star entry in a whole load of blacklists. In the meantime, adding blogworks.in to the blacklist for all my clients' mail servers. Regards, -- Raj On Tuesday 15 Feb 2011, Blogworks wrote: > When customers own the brand... > It is not our intention to clutter your inbox, you can safely > unsubscribe. Links: -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Saturday 15 Jan 2011, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > IMO, you should contact them before you run a fundraiser on their > behalf. Else, you are setting a bad precedent. Why? > Any random guy can come around, make a few posts on some random > mailing list claiming to support FLOSS, and then start fund raising > drives; and then vanish with the funds. > > Please get in touch with FSF-B before you use their name to raise > funds. Or for that matter, any other project. I think you missed the original post where he said something along the lines of, "Give cash to me and I will make the equivalent donation to FSF ONLINE AND RIGHT THERE AND THEN IN FRONT OF YOU." If I were donating Rs 50 and NS only transferred Rs 25, wouldn't you see me screaming? Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How not to move files in use using cron
On Monday 10 Jan 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM, wrote: > > Hello Gora Mohanty, > > > > Thanks for the message about "Re: [ilugd] How not to move files in > > use using cron". This is a one-time automatic confirmation to let > > you know you're on my Boxbe Guest List. > > [...] > > Anybody know who the moron is who is spamming people on this list > with Boxbe? Seems to be coming from netwebsteps AT gmail DOT com It was netwebst...@gmail.com, and s/he has been unsubscribed. netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com netwebst...@gmail.com Please harvest and spam this e-mail ID, spammers! Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] ALSA hacker wanted
On Monday 10 Jan 2011, Linux Lingam wrote: > gora is correct. > also, have you tried to check the dell's internal circuitry is not > causing this problem? > depending on the level of hiss, here's a quick workaround: > > 1. ensure the recording has a few seconds of silence recorded: > without voice/music/whatever. > 2. open audacity, select this portion, and through the filters menu, > look for the 'remove noise' option. > the first click will load this pattern as the 'hiss' that has to be > elminated. 3. now select the entire track, and again go back to the > same filter. clicking it again will eliminate > the noise/hiss from the entire track. > 4: optional: adjust the EQ to correct other possible problems with > the recording's balance of each channel, > add salt, pepper, oregano, and other seasonings to taste. Thanks for all the advice folks. Some more background: 1. This machine is going to be used for VoIP, so post-facto editing of audio isn't possible. If you know a (say) 1000Hz filter that can be implemented at the ALSA level I'd be glad to give it a shot. 2. I've tried all settings. Yes, the hiss (obviously) decreases when I push down mic gain. However, an obvious side-effect of lowering mic gain is, you guessed it, voice volume goes down and the person at the other end of the line has to strain to make out what I'm saying. 3. I've tried recording without a mic attached and the hiss is still there, so it's not an impedance mismatch (or whatever other technical stuff sound engineers like to bandy about). In my view, a properly-configured sound system should not be generating hiss from the input at all, at any mic gain value, and this is confirmed by running Winduhs on the machine where, lo! the hiss disappears. Hence my conclusion that this is purely an ALSA issue and needs to be tackled at the ALSA configuration level. More advice/offers for help/commercial offers welcome. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] ALSA hacker wanted
[Please send offers to me personally, not to the list] Hi, I have a Dell Optiplex 380 (a fairly new model) which is having problems with excessive hiss when recording. Since I've tested without a mic and still got the hiss, I've concluded that it's an ALSA problem. The issue is probably incorrect routing of pins in the ALSA configuration, but I don't know enough about ALSA to figure it out. Any ALSA hackers here who can work out the correct ALSA configuration to eliminate the hiss? I can make a machine available in Sector 7, NOIDA or in Janakpuri, and will pay a reasonable amount for what should be a couple of hours' work. Payment will be on successful configuration -- no money for just trying :) alsa-info.sh output is at the bottom of this e-mail. Please contact me via e-mail or on my mobile (9811066460) if you are interested. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves !! !!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.59 !! !!Script ran on: Sat Jan 8 21:06:46 UTC 2011 !!Linux Distribution !!-- Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid \n \l !!DMI Information !!--- Manufacturer: Dell Inc. Product Name: OptiPlex 380 !!Kernel Information !!-- Kernel release:2.6.32-5-686 Operating System: GNU/Linux Architecture: i686 Processor: unknown SMP Enabled: Yes !!ALSA Version !! Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version:1.0.23 Utilities version: 1.0.23 !!Loaded ALSA modules !!--- snd_hda_intel !!Sound Servers on this system !! No sound servers found. !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA !!- 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfe6fc000 irq 16 !!PCI Soundcards installed in the system !!-- 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) !!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's !! 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 01) Subsystem: 1028:0400 !!Loaded sound module options !!-- !!Module: snd_hda_intel bdl_pos_adj : 1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1 enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y enable_msi : 0 id : ,,, index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1 model : ,,, patch : ,,, position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 power_save : 0 power_save_controller : Y probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1 probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N single_cmd : N !!HDA-Intel Codec information !!--- --startcollapse-- Codec: Realtek ALC269 Address: 0 Function Id: 0x1 Vendor Id: 0x10ec0269 Subsystem Id: 0x10280400 Revision Id: 0x100100 No Modem Function Group found Default PCM: rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0 IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0 IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x57, nsteps=0x57, stepsize=0x02, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 PCM: rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x57, nsteps=0x57, stepsize=0x02, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 PCM: rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x04 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x05 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital Converter: stream=0, channel=0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x07 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x0b, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x8b 0x8b] Converter: str
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Kernel and Drivers Trainers.
On Tuesday 04 Jan 2011, Arun K. Singh wrote: > Btw I havent seen any such guidelines such as Commercial in subject > line etc on any Linux/Android discussion groups... The [COMMERCIAL] tag serves at least two purposes: 1. It permits members who are only interested in the technical or advocacy aspect of FOSS to avoid reading posts that do not deal with those aspects. 2. It permits any hypothetical site owner to pull out job offerings, etc. easily and put them on a web site. Nishikant used to do that at one time, don't know if he's still active on that front. So, in the absence of any good reason to avoid it, let's keep the practice going for now. It's not difficult to follow, and it may help some of the list members. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Kernel and Drivers Trainers.
On Tuesday 04 Jan 2011, Arun K. Singh wrote: > 2011/1/4 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) > > Since this is a commercial requirement, list etiquette suggests > > that you add "[COMMERCIAL]" in the subject line. > > Ok, do you want this to be re-posted? Nope, the message had already gotten through :) Just keep it in mind for future postings. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Kernel and Drivers Trainers.
On Tuesday 04 Jan 2011, Arun K. Singh wrote: > I am looking for a professional organisation that may provide on-site > training to developers on Linux Kernel in NCR region. I work for ST > Ericsson as a System Architect and would need some good Linux > training organizations that have expertise in Kernel programming, > debugging, profiling and Device drivers aspects on Linux kernel[ > 2.6.35 upwards]. Since this is a commercial requirement, list etiquette suggests that you add "[COMMERCIAL]" in the subject line. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Mid-range laptop for Linux (Debian)
Hello my dearest ILUGD, I am now a member of IndyaSucks.com and thought you would like to know about this amazing web site which has helped me connect with all my old school friends who are now either criminals or politicians (or is there a difference?) This invitation is specially for you, ILUGD, since I believe you are a close personal friend of mine and we have enjoyed so many scintillating evenings together. I believe we should continue our relationship over this anti-social notworking channel so that we can bond even better and never, ever have to interact in real life again. Oh wait! All IndyaSucks did was ask me for my name, b'day, place of birth, billing address, PAN, driver's licence, mother's maiden name, favourite schoolteacher, PGP private key and passphrase -- how the heck did they get onto this mailing list? Coming back to the matter in hand, I was planning to buy a mid-range laptop (actually someone else planning to buy me one, for reasons too complex to go into), and was wondering if you could share your experiences with laptops that are fully FOSS-compliant. Range is Rs 40K to 60K, and I'd prefer laptops with devices that are supported with native Linux drivers. Suggestions and recommendations, please, all you mobile gurus out there! [In the interim, my Dell Latitude 5400 continues working beautifully with Debian Testing.] Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Tuesday 21 Dec 2010, Rockey K. via LinkedIn wrote: > LinkedIn > Rockey K. requested to add you as a connection on > LinkedIn: -- So is it OK to add this security (and presumably privacy) expert to the untrustable with private data wiki page now? -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Android users here?
On Monday 20 Dec 2010, Shayon Pal wrote: > The best part about Android is that every single element that you > store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's > servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails. Is that mandatory? If Android forces me to store my contact data on Google's servers, well, include me out -- Meego suddenly looks so much better! -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux-Delhi, Rockey Killer has invited you to open a Gmail account
On Thursday 16 Dec 2010, Rockey Killer wrote: > I should have sent the invitation carefully and should not have > disturbed such > a nice mailing list with some stupid invitation .. I apologize .. > for that .. This is not the only list you have disturbed. As far as I know, your invitation has gone out to all e-mails in your address book, which basically means that you gave your login and password to some spamming service (e.g. Gmail Invites). Given that, I believe your inclusion in the list of people not to trust with one's personal data is justified. I see you have deleted the entry I made in the Wiki, which you have a right to, but the fact still remains that you deliberately ignored any secure process and IMO are still worthy of being in the list. On top of that I got a personal Gmail chat invite from you. No idea whether that was also part of the same spam or whether you sent it manually, later. If I have misread your action I'd be glad to be corrected. If I haven't, maybe you can consider re-adding yourself to the Wiki page ;) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
On Wednesday 15 Dec 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < > > naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote: > >>> +++ Start > >>> *(c) 2010, Narendra Sisodiya, http://narendrasisodiya.com This > >>> work is release under NPDL license. * > > Its - Near Public Domain License. Er, no it's not. If anything, this is closer to copyleft. -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] [...@iitd:10824] Creative Commons License is not made for you : Here is something better
While I agree that content and software licences are complex beasts,
there are a number of reasons why you should not be promoting this
licence. I'll just stick to the main ones here:
1. A licence is meaningless unless there is at least some expectation of
it standing up in (some) court. Unless you have competent legal advice
or access to vast experience in licensing, you may end up drafting a
licence which is legally unenforceable. A licence that is not legally
enforceable is not a licence.
2. The licence has to clearly distinguish between source and object, and
original and derived works. Even content has sources (fonts, for
example, need both the glyph and rule definitions, while any vector
image is incomplete without its corresponding source file). Similarly,
a definition of original and derived, even if only in intent, would be
required so people know their precise rights with the licence. If the
licence needs to be clarified by the author for each use apart from
plain copying, it is too tedious and cumbersome and has failed in its
purpose of simplicity.
3. There are a number of open content licences out there which can serve
more or less any function you can think of. The creative commons
process for selecting a licence, for instance, makes it trivial to get a
licence depending on your intended use for your content. As for use, if
you're bothered by the legalese, just get a summary of what the licence
tries to achieve and then put the single statement ("Content released
under FOO licence") in the appropriate place. The advantage is, these
licences have been written by people with expertise in both law and
content, and with experience in the whole licensing process.
Incidentally, there is no "Creative Commons Licence". CC suggests a
number of licences, some of which are open and some that aren't. My
personal taste is for CC-BY-SA, and I try to use it for all content I
release.
On Wednesday 15 Dec 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kinshuk Sunil
wrote:
> > Does the NPDL license mean that I can do anything with the
> > content/source/item provided I let everyone else do whatever they
> > want to do with it such that they do the same ?
>
> Yes, but it pause a condition that you cannot own it. it must be
> release under same license. you take my article and modify it.
> resultant must be released under same NPDL license.
> But you can add resultant work into your copyrighted book and you
> just need to include a exception that - section x.y is relased under
> NPDL and rest of the book is copyrighted.
> Basically NPDL is designed to "One Click Sharing button" believers
> who want a most simple license to give away or throw away their
> small work like just 1 -2 screenshots or 1 small blog or a small
> tutorial.
> [snip]
Regards,
-- Raj
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[ilugd] Bolnagri + KDE help
Hi, Trying to use the KDE Bolnagri input system to type Hindi (Devnagri). Most stuff works fine but not able to enter standalone vowels (i, ee, a, aa, etc.). The document states that you have to have Caps Lock on, but Caps Lock status isn't making any difference to the character entered. Any help appreciated. BTW, how tough would it be to convert the ITRANS Phonetic keymap so it works natively under KDE? I preferred that to Bolnagri for my extremely limited Hindi text entry. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Server is hacked, pl. advice
On Friday 03 Dec 2010, abhishek jain wrote: > hi friends, > I today noticed my VPS was running too slow, then i logged into root > , and found a lot of load on it (> 240 ). > I did a ps -ef and a lot of process were running, a lot of them were > > > user1 23771 1 0 15:36 pts/000:00:02 ./atack 800 > > Also in WHM i see a process > > user1 99.7 perl udp.pl 92.114.6.32 0 22 > > can anyone here suggest me what should i do, > i am not sure how user1 logged into server, further what does the > command "perl udp.pl 92.114.6.32 0 22" mean which eats up 99.7% of > CPU . Apart from all the advice others have given you (use updated packages, switch off unwanted services, etc), do a fresh reinstall of Linux on this VM. Once a (virtual) machine has been compromised, it's nearly impossible to be 100% sure that you have cleaned it up unless you're a real Linux/Unix dada with hundreds of years of experience. Rootkits can leave their components lying around anywhere in your system, and you can never be sure that you have managed to purge the whole worm. Reinstall, reinstall, reinstall. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Wednesday 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 11/17/2010 12:20 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: > > I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much > > easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day > > when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper > > technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. > > Have you seen the latest generation readers ? eg. the B&N Nook or > Amazon's Kindle3 ? > > I've been using the new amazon kindle3 for about 2 months now - and > its quite nice - zero eye strain ( just about as comfortable to read > over long durations as regular paper ). As long as they can make it > possible to resell books and lend books to other people, I dont see > myself going back to buying a paper book anymore ( as long as the > epaper version exists ). Well, the Kindle and its brethren are out anyway for me due to DRM. Apart from that, I'll switch when the e-paper becomes as thick and as flexible as, say, a 8-page newspaper supplement. This is going seriously OT, so I don't want to start listing out all the things you can do w/ books that you can't with e-paper (or vice versa, for that matter). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Wednesday 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote: > I am intrigued why there is an interest in physical books these days. > Pretty much everywhere I look ( from the Pasteur Institute in Paris > to the UCL and Kings College here in London ) the libraries are all > scaling back, dropping periodicals in physical media and moving to > digital formats. Even most course-ware is preferred in digital > formats these days. The Pasteur institute has even gone to the > extent of reducing to almost half their library floor space! > > I don't mean to be negative, but just wondering what the state of > play in Delhi is at the moment. I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Converting Unicode to PS
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010, Nandeep Mali wrote: > On a side note, am I the only one getting these annoying Boxbe alerts > whenever I send a mail to the list? > > In this case it was from Mr. manishchabr...@gmail.com Have already requested Kishore to either set nomail for that address or drop it from the list altogether. Pretty damn irritating, being asked to validate your identity to some unknown 'net service every time you send a mail. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Converting Unicode to PS
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010, Nandeep Mali wrote: > How about text2pdf? Thanks. Tried that just now but it has problems: doesn't handle Unicode, and does line wrapping (fixed at 80 columns) instead of wrapping at word boundaries. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Converting Unicode to PS
Hi, I have some text which contains a few Unicode characters. I'm currently using enscript(1) to convert the text to PS and then to PDF; however enscript isn't handling the Unicode characters. Apart from that it's doing a beautiful job of the conversion, including word wrapping. Any other commonly-available command-line utility for converting text with long lines to PS which would handle Unicode? Alternatively, any way to convert Unicode text directly to PDF on the command line? Note: I know how to use OOo and friends, but I need something that can be put into a Makefile, not an interactive solution. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] LVM and ext3 size relationship
On Saturday 13 Nov 2010, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: > I decided to check the ext3 overhead empirically, since I not keen to > delve into the resize2fs sources. I've attached a simple python > script that I used on a bunch of machines to measure the difference > between block device size (reported by /proc/partitions) > and fs size (as reported by statfs). It currently reports on all > mounted ext2 and ext3 filesystems. Afraid the script didn't make it to the list -- Mailman scrubs all attachments by default. Can you upload somewhere and post a link? -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] LVM and ext3 size relationship
On Saturday 13 Nov 2010, Rakesh Kumar wrote: > I think nobody is here to teach you, but as far as it is concerned to > solve any problem, i have already answered you. With all due respect, you haven't. Taj asked a very specific question: > If I want to grow an ext3 fs by size X in mb, how do I calculate the > size Y by which I have to first resize the LVM volume on which it > resides? Most sources I've read online say something like "make it a > little bigger just to be safe" but I'm hoping there is a better and > more accurate formula than that. I haven't seen an answer on this list so far. And if Taj, with his gazillions of years of experience, can't come up with an answer, I doubt if there are too many people on this list with the necessary technical qualifications who can. I know I certainly can't. I was hoping one of the deep-dive and/or broad implementation experience types like Ashish or Karanbir would have an idea, but given their lack of response, I assume they're as clueless as the rest of us on this matter. Please note that "read up on OS theory" and "read up on LVM fundamentals", while useful in themselves, are no use in closing the issue that was raised. He wanted a formula. He has not got a formula. End of story. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Script to run at login but for non-root users only
On Friday 12 Nov 2010, Amit Sharma wrote: > I want to run a script as soon as a non-root users logs in. If your script is named "/usr/local/bin/foo.sh", try this in /etc/profile: # Only run foo.sh for non-root users [ `id -u` -ne 0 ] && /usr/local/bin/foo.sh Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Greetings, etc.
Hi, If you care about wishing others during the festive season(s), please do so in individual, personal mails. Please do NOT send greeting mails to the list -- that just indicates you're too lazy to figure out who your real friends are. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Direct Recruitment opportunity with Startup..
Please tag such posts with [COMMERCIAL] in the subject line. On Tuesday 02 Nov 2010, neeraj kumar wrote: > We are looking out PHP Professionals for our Ghaziabad based > incubation center.. -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting in North Delhi?
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010, Rockey Killer wrote: > Yes , website was down yesterday for maintainance work. It's up and > you can browse it now on > http://h4ck3r.in/ What happen, did it get hacked? ;-) -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:9818] Call for article for OPEN MINDS Annual newsletter of Jmilug .
On Friday 08 Oct 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > LFY articles are available at CC domain , you are reuse them > suresh and me and other are posting blogs on lug-iitd.posterous.com , > You can reuse our blogs too. BTW, when you mention CC you also need to specify precisely which CC licence you are referring to. CC encompasses a whole gamut, from non- free to viral to public domain equivalents. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to get wifi on visit to Delhi
On Monday 20 Sep 2010, Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) wrote: > As suggested by Raj, there are quite a few options available that > you can use. The situation is not as bad as portrayed by Raj. :-) > Yes, we have problems but we have come a long way and we need to go > further from here. > > You have already created a negative image of India even before poor > chap has chance to see India! :-( Let us not discourage our guests > and let them come and have taste of India. One person's negative is another person's realistic. I'd say let the visitors have some sort of power to discriminate before they end up with a plan or solution that looks good on paper but doesn't work at all on the ground. And you're right -- the situation is not as bad as I make it out to be, it's actually much worse ;-) Jitna bhi whitewash kar lo is deewar ka rang to kala hi rahta hai! > I think he and his group will not have issues obtaining a temp > connection with their passports and hotel bookings. Of course having > a friend in Delhi purchasing and activating in advance is always > better solution. I'd have been much happier if you'd said "I know" instead of "I think". If someone has definitive information about visitors' ease of use in (or set of processes for) obtaining mobile connectivity, let's present that -- opinions really don't help. > Let is keep our problems with us and try to solve them ourselves. Why > saddle our guests with our problems? Hey, since we've failed in solving them let's try to get outside help! Now founding the "Visitors For A Better India" Campaign, please donate generously. Cheques in hard currency may be made out "Raj Mathur". Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to get wifi on visit to Delhi
On Monday 20 Sep 2010, Llywelyn Owen wrote: > I will be visiting Delhi in the next week or so to work on the Games > coverage for a fortnight. I plan to bring my Linux Netbook to keep on > top of my email. Some of my sad Windows using colleague want to do > the same. We've been told that wifi is either expensive or non > existent. Our hotel (Regency Hayatt - not far from the tennis > venue) has prohibitively expensive wifi internet. > > We would be grateful for your advice as to the best options for > visitors spending 2-3 weeks in Delhi. Your best bet would probably be to get an el cheapo Reliance or Tata pre-paid phone with USB cable which will give you around 150 Kb/s throughput. Alternatively, you could get a USB 3G dongle from MTNL if you're looking for high-speed connectivity (though MTNL has its own set of problems). You can also buy a 3G dongle in Wales and populate it with an MTNL SIM when you land here. Both methods will require some sort of proof of identity before you can purchase them -- our paranoid (though impotent) regime is obsessed with tracking callers and Internet users, and I don't really know how difficult it would be for a visitor to purchase one of these in Delhi. Having a friend in Delhi purchase one for you, if you have one you know well enough, would probably be the best bet. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [ILUG-GOA] Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets
On Thursday 09 Sep 2010, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > As someone has already said, better late than never! > http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/ That is indeed good news. It's only as few months back that the native Linux b43 driver started supporting the Broadcom BCM4312 WiFi chipset on my laptop. Before this I had to refrain from using the wireless. I've used proprietary drivers for various hardware components in the past (most notably the infamous nVidia cards) and have always faced issues with their interaction with the rest of the system. Usually the driver itself works beautifully, but causes all sorts of other problems in the system. Some of the issues I remember: - Proprietary driver causes failures in other (native) drivers for related components. - Proprietary driver causes problems with power management. - Proprietary driver doesn't permit glitch-free laptop suspend/hibernate/resume. - Proprietary driver crashes the system if loaded/unloaded too many times. - Proprietary driver doesn't work at all on newer (or older) versions of the kernel. On the whole, then, the more FOSS drivers the better. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [OT] [X-Post] Delhi-Mumbai courier for RMS
Hi, Richard Stallman (RMS) has left a small package weighing about 10KG at my place that needs to be taken to Mumbai. Request you to contact me if you're going Delhi-Mumbai in the next few days and can carry it with you. Thanks, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] sachinjnu...@gmail.com wants to chat
Added to: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi- bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData ( http://preview.tinyurl.com/2b4m3yv ) -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux Implementation Guys
On Thursday 19 Aug 2010, saurabh vadhera wrote: > I need Linux Implementation Guys for a Project Onsite in Singapore > for a year (with handsome Salary in Dollars) . Please send me the > Resumes and provide the lead time to join Thanks for posting the opening. For future reference, please be sure to mark all such posts to the list with the tag "[COMMERCIAL]" in the subject. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] calculator with a memory?
On Monday 16 Aug 2010, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Feeling silly to ask this question; but which calculator programme > has a memory function like the normal calculator has? > > I am speaking of the "M", "M+" "M-" and "MRC" keys most normal > handheld calculators have. > > Have tried gcalctool and qalculate!. neither seem have to have this > seemingly silly feature. bc and dc don't meet your needs? -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Moderating first post?
On Monday 16 Aug 2010, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Whatever happened to the "moderate first pot" policy, which I > believe, was in place for this list? Never. -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] how to unsubscribe this mailing list
On Saturday 14 Aug 2010, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: > Please tell me : > > 1. how to unsubscribe this mailing list > > or > > 2. the moderator may please remove me from this list Done. This one is urgent, so I won't wait for the "moderator" Mr Bhargava to wake up and do it. -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Saturday 14 Aug 2010, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: > I dont care a damm for your comment. I know, you think you own this > forum... you get irritated very fast when people take lead. You want > that every people in this forum call you " sir , sir... narendra > sir." and when someone disagrees. > > Its a pity that people think there only one knowlegable in Delhi. Nishant, your response was in very poor taste, added no value to the conversation and reeked of communalism. Please stop abusing people who try to point that out to you, and try to give value back to the list. And, if you have nothing to say, please don't say it here. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Software Patent Busting at CIS
On Tuesday 10 Aug 2010, Ankit Chaturvedi wrote: > I'm not a lawyer, though i have been on the wrong side of software > patents many times. > > It's not completely true that software patents are not allowed in > india. The simple answer is, it depends on the technology. Mobile, > multimedia codecs, et al are frought with patent issues that can be > lawfully upheld in india. Not a lawyer either, but AFAIR "patents on software per se" are not permitted in India. This is generally interpreted as disallowing software patents but permitting patents of embedded software which is tightly bound to the hardware it runs on. Of course, everyone interprets the "per se" to their own advantage. To the best of my knowledge a number of patents have been granted on software in India too, but using an under-handed technique. However, standard patents like on MP3 and MPEG technology are technically not valid in India unless implemented embedded. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [X-POST] Licence compatibility
Useful chart if you're choosing a licence for your FOSS work, or integrating your code with someone else's: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/licensing/licenses_summary.html Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Code editor for Windows
On Wednesday 04 Aug 2010, Pratul Kalia wrote: > E is paid but it was released under an open source license, I see > their repo here http://github.com/etexteditor/e/ As Ashish also pointed out, it is neither a Free Software nor an Open Source licence. E is still proprietary software. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Code editor for Windows
On Wednesday 04 Aug 2010, Shamail Tayyab wrote: > > Need to handle at least C, C++, Java and Perl. > > Tried e-text editor? Commercial though is a textmate clone for > windows. Nothing new to learn and the bundles are cool. Looks nice, except if you recall one of the original requirements was "FOSS". I'll be sure to give it a whirl when they release the source under an open source licence :) In the meantime, Notepad++ it is. I'll be having some 30 non-technical youngsters using that for creating C++ programs, so expect feedback (here or directly to the developers) when they run into editor issues! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Wednesday 04 Aug 2010, Mohit Yadav wrote: > Mohit Yadav requested to add you as a connection on Added at: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi- bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData ( http://preview.tinyurl.com/2b4m3yv ) -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Code editor for Windows
On Monday 02 Aug 2010, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: > Can you recommend a good standalone FOSS programmer's editor for > Windows? No Emacs/Vim for Windows please -- the editor shouldn't > force the user to learn new paradigms. > > Need to handle at least C, C++, Java and Perl. Thanks to all who replied. For the record, I'm going with Notepad++... I seem to remember using a port on Linux at some time too! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Code editor for Windows
Hi, Can you recommend a good standalone FOSS programmer's editor for Windows? No Emacs/Vim for Windows please -- the editor shouldn't force the user to learn new paradigms. Need to handle at least C, C++, Java and Perl. Thanks, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [X-Post] Guest account in Ubuntu 10.04
On Saturday 24 Jul 2010, Kartik Singhal wrote: > [snip] > What we need though is a method by which we can "reset" the 'user' > account's home directory at each log in, deleting any traces of the > previous user's activity and recreates these two icons. I had > created the script to generate the icons, it can just be integrated > to the solution of this problem. > > Though the Guest account that does this is available on ubuntu but it > is only accessible when some other user is logged in and can't be > accessed from the main login screen. Not clear how usernames are generated. Does every user have a fixed ID allocated to him/her? Because if the same username is used by two or more people I don't see the difference between the user account and the guest account. In any case, have a look at the postexec parameter in smb.conf. That should allow you to run a script (which can clean out the directory, e.g.) whenever a user disconnects from a share. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] REAL FOSS
On Saturday 24 Jul 2010, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: > *Finally I've learned one thing, even Open Source is not for > Community, it is test bed for Corporate houses, a place for them to > get the developers work for free, finally put a logo and then earn > name, fame or money(anone one or all). And if any of the community > member ever tries to give his REAL open views, best is taken care to > supress the views.* I have no clue what you're referring to, but if you promote a proprietary software package in one breath and complain about an Open Source community in the next, it's difficult to understand what your objective is. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to Capitalise Email Name
On Tuesday 20 Jul 2010, narendra sisodiya wrote: > When you click reply/reply to all., you will see this type of line > How I can Capitalise my name like "Narendra Sisodiya", I am using > Google Apps, Same instruction as gmail. Not really anything to do with I, L, U, G or D, but you just have to set your full name in your Gmail settings (Accounts and Import tab). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] google docs vs openoffice-in-the-cloud
On Sunday 18 Jul 2010, H.S.Rai wrote: > 2010/7/18 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) : > > any viable alternative to Google Docs has to > > present an interface that has a minimal learning curve. > > Don't http://eyeos.org/ fit the bill? Now /this/ looks hot! Thanks for the link. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] google docs vs openoffice-in-the-cloud
On Sunday 18 Jul 2010, narendra sisodiya wrote: > Well, for using openoffice files we first need to make a good > openoffice viewer. Somebody has to sit and make Complete unzipping > libraries in JavaScript. > http://odp-view.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/test1.html Let me reiterate Niyam's point here: Google Docs has no place in an Open Web, regardless of alternatives being available or not. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] google docs vs openoffice-in-the-cloud
On Sunday 18 Jul 2010, Nagarjuna G wrote: > wait for three-four months. gnowledge.org lab is going to release a > web application to do documents, knowledge organisation, > presentations, calendar, tasks, spreadsheets, mind maps, concept maps > ... . all of this in plain text. This project is based on > http://orgmode.org. What will the learning curve be like? The reason Google Docs and similar are so popular is because they offer an interface mostly indistinguishable from the document/spreadsheet processing that people do on their desktops. If they have to learn new formatting commands, etc. I'm afraid the usage is going to remain limited to people like you and me who have Emacs/TeX experience, and who are comfortable using plain-text markup. Much as I hate to say this, any viable alternative to Google Docs has to present an interface that has a minimal learning curve. In other words, it has to mimic Excel as far as possible; without that, end-users will simply not use the service, however good it may be. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Help regarding developing a site
On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010, Kapil Gupta wrote: > I need suggestions / comments / feedback and for making a site like > below. i think that this is a huge site and i may not be able to do > it by myself. my idea to develop it in mediawiki, will you suggest > me something better for my purpose. > Since it is a littile big document, please follow the link. > https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Abk_RjBgPsd6ZGR6MnZ3andfNDIxcmJwcX > dtZHY&hl=en I'd be very careful about opening myself to libel charges if I made a site like this. Remember, Indian law (or at least Indian law enforcers) don't seem to be able to distinguish between creator and provider of content. In other words, you are quite likely going to be held responsible for whatever other people publish on your site. If they write anything that angers someone in power, guess who's going to be sitting in Tihar Jail? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open Democracy
On Sunday 11 Jul 2010, Neeraj Semwal wrote: > Hello Everyone, >For the past 2-3 months I have been thinking > of an idea, an idea which has the potential of changing the lives of > many. I am thinking about making a new amended version of 'The > Constitution of India' and thus changing the way our 'Largest > Democracy' is today and doing the full development in the public > domain making it open source and by following the open source > development model. > [snip] Go right ahead, but please leave the politics off this list. This is a forum for discussing Linux and Free and Open Source Software, not a platform for spouting political views that have nothing to do with Linux and/or FOSS in India. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] J2ME development kit
Hi, Anyone know of a fully FOSS J2ME development kit for Linux, preferably one that includes a (FOSS) J2ME emulator? TIA, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Learn How to Make Websites in 4 days flat using Drupal CMS! Fresh Batch starting Friday, July 16th
On Thursday 08 Jul 2010, Sidharth Kshatriya wrote: > [snip] > This will be paid training and costs would vary depending on whether > you are a student, working professional or company sponsored > candidate. Discounts will be offered to companies sending more than > one individual. Please mark the subjects of such posts [COMMERCIAL] in future. Further, I'd suggest that if you plan to announce each batch, instead of sending the whole mail to the list just send the batch date, a synopsis and a link to where detailed information can be obtained. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] emulate grep - w
On Saturday 26 Jun 2010, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
> Mohit Singh writes:
> > Need some help. On an embedded system being minimalistic 'grep -w'
> > does not work. Please let me know if somebody can emulate the
> > behavior by using some other tool.
>
> NONWORD='[^[:alpha:][:digit:]-]'
> grep "\(^\|${NONWORD}\)${PATTERN}\(${NONWORD}\|\$\)" $*
>
> This should work with grep supporting basic regexp.
Could this be made simpler using the ? operator?
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Re: [ilugd] emulate grep - w
On Saturday 26 Jun 2010, Mohit Singh wrote: > [snip] > GAURAV Incidentally, are you Mohit Singh or Gaurav? -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] emulate grep - w
On Saturday 26 Jun 2010, Mohit Singh wrote: > Need some help. On an embedded system being minimalistic 'grep -w' > does not work. Please let me know if somebody can emulate the > behavior by using some other tool. If you have Perl and you're looking for word Foo, you can: perl -ne '/\bFoo\b/ && print' file... > 10x in advance I prefer 24x, but whatever you like... Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] eduframe expression of interest
On Thursday 24 Jun 2010, sreedher ramamurthy wrote: > Dear Mr Mohanty If you're being formal, I guess that should be Dr Mohanty. > My main idea in sharing with the group is that some one at least will > come and see the working of this device and spread the word across > for development of similar gadgets. Still haven't been able to access this document. I caved in and used a Gmail account to try to get it, then was told that I have to add you as a contact (whatever that means). Since I care about my privacy online, I refused and lo and behold, was once again frustrated in my attempt to get hold of this document. Since you have a web server that serves PDF content (even if it's MS IIS), why not upload the document there and give free access to it to everyone? In the meantime, there was some informed discussion about the Eduframe and alternatives on another list in the thread starting at: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/india-gii/2010-06/msg00031.html Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] eduframe expression of interest
On Wednesday 23 Jun 2010, r.sreed...@gmail.com wrote: > It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open > this document, just click the link above. I tried, but it's asking for a login. Can you send one of those too, please? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Mailing list default reply-to option
On Monday 21 Jun 2010, Kartik Singhal wrote: > I have also done it once, I think the default option to reply should > be to the mailing list instead of to the sender. It was like this > earlier and has changed recently. Now, you have to hit Reply to all > for replying to the mailing list. > > Admins, please check if this can be configured in mailman. It can be configured, but it's strongly deprecated: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Most mail clients today have a "Reply to list" option, why not just use that? Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
