[ilugd] Protest against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act?
Does anyone know of organized (preferably mass) protests against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act, 2009? [1] http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/06/07/stories/2009060750090300.htm [2] http://www.mit.gov.in/default.aspx?id=969 Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [FSUG-Bangalore] Boycott Novell Protesters Man-handled at National Conference on Free Software 2008
This is on Slashdot. Read the comments there-- one of the few times they make sense. If the protesters were on private property and were asked to leave by the organizers, they should have. Basic respect for private property. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] { Announcement/Invitation } General Meeting cum Discussion on Software Patents at IIT Delhi at 24 oct 2008
Whoever wants to argue about the efficacy of software patents should make it a point to read this essay by Paul Graham before forming voicing strong opinions: http://www.paulgraham.com/softwarepatents.html Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Any experiences with Acer Aspire One?
I would advise everyone to not buy any Acer notebook. Their build quality sucks. And believe me, you might think that build quality does not matter, but for notebooks it does -- you'll realize it later. The mousepad of my Acer laptop[1] started misbehaving within 2 months of purchase. Today, after 3 years of sparse usage (mostly lying around at home) I find out that the keyboard has started misbehaving too. Don't even get me started on the battery. Even when it was brand new, I never got more than 1h 15m of battery backup. Moral: DON'T buy Acer. [1] TravelMate 4061NWLCi Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution
Is it possible? Is there a plugin, which can help me achieve this? Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution
I guess you mean the thread view, you just have to enable that view - group by thread I think I already have that on. The difference between a conversation view and a thread view is that the former also shows the mails sent be you in the same tree Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully transact on the ICICI Netbanking website using Firefox 2.0. By transact I mean able to transfer funds, etc. Basically anything that requires: (a) your transaction password to be entered, or (b) the debit card grid verification to be performed). My session has consistently been timed out immediately after (a) above. While Googling around, I came across a forum where someone claimed that due to a JS error the session times out in Firefox 2.0, but the site works on Firefox 1.5. Does anyone know where I can get a Firefox 1.5 package (or tarball) for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've been trying to search for it, but in vain. Help will be appreciated, Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Don't remember *b), *but definitely for *a) *I didn't have problem* *on Firefox 2.0 (on both Windows RHEL ). Could you please do small favour? Can you try entering a _wrong_ transaction password and see if the site gives you an appropriate error or summarily times out your session? Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Couldn't test on RHEL 5;on Windows, ICICI Direct says: *Transaction Password is incorrect*. Hmmm, interesting. Why is this happening with me? Consistently. And not only my account - one more person has tried from my browser with the same result. What's your exact browser id string? Mine is -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.11 (Ubuntu-feisty) PS: If you find the time, please test it on RHEL as well. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
But the final insight only came after grovelling through the Javascript code on the page. It takes a reasonable amount of time and effort, but at the end of it you usually know exactly what is wrong. For the record, I have successfully used Iceweasel/Firefox 2.0 for both Netbanking and the payment gateway. Wow! Did you document it anywhere? If not, do you remember what the problem was and how you fixed it? Can you document it now? I can try to write a small userscript to fix the error. Thanks for the link to Firefox 1.5 Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU
Please do remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard. This focus on what the community wants, in my opinion, does not always work. There are things which need to be driven by a single person or a small core team based on their personal convictions. Everything can't be a decision by committee. All those who're harping about the inappropriateness about the new direction of Freed on the mailing list (me included) will probably not work as much (or not work at all) in running around to get stuff organized. So why let them take control of the decision? (which would mean giving them a vote in the meeting -- if it comes to that) The core team can listen to everyone's view, and execute only what they themselves are convinced about. Not some fuzzy community trying to drive stuff by proxy using video conferencing and IRC. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
Hi Gora, I have attended only one Freed (it was called Freedel at that point) and the focus seems to have shifted quite a bit since that time (open source s/w focused event to a more social revolution kind of event). Therefore, please read my comments in that context -- most of them may be emanating from the fact that the new direction doesn't fit my notion of the event. 1. How does a focus on the Knowledge Ecosystem tie in with open source software? It surely ties in with open standards (and file formats), but not necessarily with free/open source software. However, freed.in may focus on the use of open source software in helping create the knowledge system - which is absolutely fine. Except that (a) this is not stated anywhere explicitly in the document, and (b) not all content can be managed properly with open source s/w as of now. 2. The term Knowledge Ecosystem can mean different things to different people. I've read the document carefully, it does not define what knowledge ecosystem means to the organizers of the event in clear concise terms. I think that's important. Also, knowledge can impact lots of aspects of our lives. It would be good to list a few of them, which Freed is planning to focus upon. From the tone of the document, education and government seemed to be the primary focus, but again, helps to be explicit. 3. What does section 1.3 mean? How do you plan to achieve the tangible goals listed out in this section through Freed.in? Wouldn't achieving these goals require a lot more sustained effort than a 3 day event? Section 2.4 answers this question partially, but I'm still a bit skeptical. Also, from a document writing perspective, portions of the text of section 2.4 should be contained in section 1.3 to make things more obvious. 4. Pardon me, but IMHO, most of section 3.1 offers nothing concrete to the user. It simply adds to the sense of vagueness. It should probably be removed and replaced by a succinct definition of the term Knowledge Ecosystem and be moved to somewhere in section 1 itself. 5. This might be my ignorance, but what role do open source licenses (as defined by OSI) play in creating and sharing knowledge? (Also, the link to OSI http://opensource.org opens a website wildly different from http://www.opensource.org!) As an overall comment, the document needs to be more specific. Probably you're expecting community feedback to flesh out the details. But in my opinion, the overall vagueness (and too many buzzwords) hampered my in offering any useful feedback. Making the document shorter and adding a one line mantra (v/s a mission and vision statement) about Freed should help people understand the overall context. And get the ideas flowing. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Plan for Freed.in 2008
If you look at our country (and probably most developing countries), you will see that the fundamental issues relate to availability of knowledge, not availability of software. Posting free CDs of Linux to people who don't have the computers to run them on won't help in any of these areas -- software isn't the whole solution, it's just part of it. Exactly. This whole thing about the knowledge economy is not necessarily about software. Its about mind sets. It's the same mind set that is required to get an RTI act into effect. Sure, the RTI act is more effective if the information dissemination is not through individual applications and replies -- but it still works without the software. So where is that huge fund of knowledge that is lying with the individuals of India? Can I access it? Can I use it? Can I enhance it? No, since it's hidden away in the minds and collective wisdom in villages and small towns, whose people do not have any means available for expressing that wisdom and sharing it with the rest of the world. One of freed.in's goals at this event is to discuss ways forward for enabling the free collection and dissemination of knowledge, no matter where in this country or in the developing world it exists. At the risk of oversimplification: Today's society and economy is hinged upon the availability of knowledge. Digital technologies have proven to be an effective way for sharing such knowledge. Digital technologies are not available to most of India (especially rural parts). Is Freed.in about bridging this digital divide? Finally, to answer the question you raised raised at the end of your first para, knowledge that is hidden away in a proprietary format, no matter how prevalent the format or how high the quality of the knowledge, is useless in the new paradigm IMNSHO. No. In fact, I said that knowledge needs to be stored in open formats and transmitted using standard (open) protocols. That's necessary. What's not necessary is that the *tools* required to manipulate these formats be free and open source. For example, a Wiki developed in .Net and deployed on Microsoft Server 2k with IIS as the web server is still a Wiki. It will achieve the purpose of knowledge sharing in the same way a Twiki on LAMP does. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
[As noted by Raj, this discussion should move to the Freed mailing list (copied on this message). All future follow-ups there.] How do I subscribe to it? The Freed 2008 wiki has no link to the mailing list web interface. The Freed 2007 link (at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freed2007/TakingPart) doesn't work. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!
Does anyone know what happened? Dec 11 (yesterday) was when the reps had to be announced. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) formation of College LUG
you might find the laugh being at your expense, when you realise that its an outsourced service. I don't think so. Large corporations have strict guidelines and specifications that their vendors need to follow. These may include: * software with exact version * coding guidelines * documentation guidelines * brand guidelines for logo placements, selection of fonts, selection of colours etc. (Microsoft has a 3kg glossy printed book detailing each one of these) So, Microsoft, theoretically, has full control over what their vendors do. It's a different matter, that in this case they're not exercising it, Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!
You can make a difference and call now BIS at +91-1123237991 and help us to find out: a. Who will represent BIS on DIS 29500 at the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva? Did anyone call BIS? Any information on who will be representing our country and what their background is? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office
A group of people started this group to look into this matter. Could those of you who are interested join in this group and contribute, so that together we can do something. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info, Nagarjuna. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Latest bug from M$
An attempt by Joel Spolsky to explain the Excel bug: http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/09/26b.html Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office
http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2007/09/spicyip-tidbits_23.html India, prima facie, does not allow pure software patents or business method patents. But that doesn't stop companies from trying. The Indian Patent Office is already being flooded with the patents described as A web based system to do XYZ or A computer system in conjunction with XY to do Z With no one opposing them (and not enough noise about this, like in the case of pharma patents), there's a high probability that this would get granted. Does anyone know of a concerted effort to keep this kind of cruft out from our country? Any pointers? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Adding an image to Disclaimer on Outgoing e-mails
The final email shows up correctly in KMail and Thunderbird with the image being displayed after the disclaimer text, but not so in M$ Outlook. Well it comes as an attachment on M$ Outlook. You might want to read the following blog post. http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/604-navigating-the-html-email-jungle An excerpt: As I type this post I still can't believe it. I'm literally stunned. If you haven't already heard, I'm talking about the recent news that Outlook 2007, released next month, will stop using Internet Explorer to render HTML emails and instead use the crippled Microsoft Word rendering engine. An easy solution is to simply send an email from Thunderbird with an inline image and see if it opens properly in Outlook. If it does, just view the source and make sure your python script is generating *exactly* the same source. I've noticed that random stuff like not putting angular brackets cid:abc around the inline part name also causes some mail clients to barf. HTH, Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact
That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL applies to M$ patents!!! The clause refering to a royalty-free, non-discriminatory, licence to use any applicable patents is in GPLv3 and not GPLv2, IIRC. Correct me if I'm wrong. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making
Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors. While I personally feel that ILUG-D is among the most open organisations that I have been a part of, and strongly resent such implications, there must be some truth behind this, as it has been expressed by many people. Hey Gora, I think it might simply be a case of 'do-ers' making the decisions. Which is good. If you (a) turn up for most of the meetings, (b) give a hand in organizing events (especially Freedel), (c) are an active face, your opinions should obviously have more weightage in the community rather than some lurker on the mailing list hell bent upon discussing pros and cons of GPL/BSD or Emacs/Vi or (insert favourite flame war here). Don't get bogged down by too much process. Get stuff done. Period. PS: Before I get flamed, there will always be cases when active people couldn't make it to a meet where decisions were taken, and they want to debate it on the list. I think everyone is sane enough to listen to the valid points on the list and alter decisions if it makes sense. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
we should always emphasize that fighting for freedom is a lifelong process - as they say Fighting to get freedom is not enough, we have to keep fighting forever to preserve it. that's why the name Free-d -- as in daemon (aka ftpd, telnetd, sshd). So it keeps waking up in intervals, fights for freedom, and goes to sleep :) Sorry. Couldn't stop myself :P Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Choice of scripting language on http://courtnic.nic.in
Mahesh, Did you get a reply for this? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Kernel 2.6.15 and DEVFS
Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and have custom installed the vanilla kernel version 2.6.15-1 -- I needed it for the SiS190 NIC driver. I couldn't find DEVFS anywhere in the kernel configuration menu. Adding the following lines to the '.config' file didn't work: CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y [I had picked up these lines from the config file of the standard Ubuntu kernel v2.6.12-9] Has devfs support been withdrawn from the kernel? While booting I get a lot of error messages regarding devfs not being mounted, but apparently my system is working perfectly. Will I face any problem without devfs on Ubuntu? TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
I am ready to shed my pockets for my emails, but i want someone real expert who can do it. Is anyone of you know a real linux recovery expert? Also, how much will he charge?? If e-mails (text only) is your primary concern I *think* the following solution might work: o You have run mke2fs on the corrupted partition o I am assuming that you have not yet written any fresh data on that partition o Which means that your data is still on the disk but is not logically organized in files and directories anymore o Run the following command on the partition and sift through *large* volumes of data to recover your mail root# cat /dev/hda7|strings|less Disclaimer: Please don't blame me if this doesn't work. In case it does, just pass on the 'pocket shedding' this side :-) HTH Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Linux and Laptops -- Help required
Hi, I'm planning to purchase a laptop, which would be my new Linux box. I have a lot of questions which I am listing below. It would be great if anyone could help me with them - o I read some articles about Linux running into troubles with Intel Centrino based laptops -- especially the WLAN card. Can someone give me a first hand account? o Other factors remaining the same, there's a difference of about Rs 10k between Celeron-M and Centrino based laptops. Is the gain in performance worth the cost? o AMD Sempron Mobile or Celerom-M? o AMD Turion-64 or Centrino? o Other than the Acer Aspire series, are there any AMD based laptops available in India? o From where can one get Lenovo R-Series in India? I couldn't find them on the website. o Acer, Compaq, Zenith, Lenovo, Dell -- any first hand experiences wrt reliability, after-sales support, etc? o Any specific recommendations or reviews of the laptop(s) that you have purchased I've read quite a few opinions online but most of them do not mention the specific models available in India, or do not address the Linux compatibility issue at all. TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Book Stores selling Linux Books
you mean you succeeded in actualy *buying* a book from them? I salute you I tried Dial-A-Book (or something like that)... I called them up every f*cking day for two weeks and the standard response used the be - The store house/godown has not released the book. It should be released by tomorrow morning. You'll get it tomorrow afternoon! I finally took the hint. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us
I don't quite get the concept of coming to India for a RHCE boot-camp, but in any case you are welcome. An ILUG-D meet is tentatively scheduled for Christmas day, the 25th. Mary or somone else can confirm. You are also welcome to visit Sarai/CSDS, 29 Rajpur Road, (phone: 23960040) during your visit. We specialize in catering to oddballs. Isn't this a little offensive? Probably you meant well... but the way the mail is worded makes it seems like the poor fellow is least welcome! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] DNS setting for the DNS-Server :- How to resolve any request to a Fixed IP address
The hostnames that you're referring to (Google, Yahoo, etc) have multiple IP addresses. Any one of those IP addresses (randomly selected) is returned each time you query a public DNS server. This is a method for balancing the load amongst multiple servers. Why do you then want to use only one IP address? Anywho.. if you've set your mind to it - here's the solution that will work on your local machine: Edit /etc/hosts and add the following lines to it. These are actual IP addresses of Yahoo/Google. You may use different ones if you like. www.google.com 66.102.7.104 www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.48 Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Isn't it ironical?
If I may ask, are you a subscriber to our publication? Are you too helping to keep us in business? I would be glad to think so. Interesting question :-) Which reminds me - has any of us ever donated to any open source project? Coders need money too! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Isn't it ironical?
Yes, donate to Vishwakarma! I need Rs. 35 crore urgently! 'Vishwakarma' - who/what is that? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu
And that reminds me - check the status of the printer using CUPS. Sometimes these HP printers 'stop' on their own... I had a nasty time with them. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu
I had successfully set up an HP Laserjet 1000 some time ago. You need to download the firmware and 'cat' it to the device whenever you plug the printer in (or switch it on). The printer will not function otherwise. Instead of manually uploading the firmware each time - you can set up hotplug to automatically do it for you. To top it of, IIRC, the firmware has been removed from all official HP download channels. Try searching for lj1000.exe (or a similar sounding filename) on Google to see if someone else has put the firmware up for download. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu
*Are you suggesting that I do this* cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1005.dl /dev/usb/lp0 Simply issue the command given above once you plug-in the printer, and hotplug detects/initializes that a USB printer has been plugged-in. After you uploaded the firmware the printer should make some whirring noises and some LEDs should blink. If that is happening you are on the right track - you simply need to get the software/application level drivers working. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Giving up on scratched CDs and ejecting mounted CDs
Because the VFS would be unhappy if mounted media suddenly disappeared from under it (and was potentially replaced with something different). That applies to all mounts, not just CDs. But doesn't the VFS already handle such situations with USB pen drives and to some extent with network file systems as well? --- Abhijit's Reply --- But doesn't the VFS already handle such situations with USB pen drives No. Hotplug handles such things, not the VFS, and that's a comparatively recent development. If you could write something that generated hotplug events when you closed or opened the CD tray, I suppose you could make it do the right thing. subfs takes a different approach, but has much the same effect. Nandz PS: Re-posting on the list as it may be relevant to some. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Giving up on scratched CDs and ejecting mounted CDs
# considering your cdrom is mounted somewhere on /mnt/cdrom lsof | grep cdrom kill -9 pid I've tried killing the process (say cp) but that doesn't solve the problem. I'll try this as well. But even this solution is a workaround! The CD driver should give up after some time and throw an error! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
* Disable all unnecessary services, Yes... That's THE most important factor why linux on the desktop runs slow... you probably dont need portmap, atd, sendmail, sshd, etc. etc stop service you don't need! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Question about the ILUGD society
We got registered as ``Linux Users Group''. I don't know how the erstwhile BLUG managed to get Bangalore into their name -- expecting consistency from Government of India is like expecting a hungry tiger to pass over an available deer out of compassion :) Is the registration country-wide? It's strange that, before us, there wasn't a society called Linux User's Group all througout India. Also, if we've got registered as Linux User's Group - BLUG would need the Bangalore in their name to differentiate themselves, iff the registration is country-wide. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Where is the community?
Watching for this thread to continue with interest. Is this not like all the people who are for democracy but are not willing to do anythingon their own to bring it about? Rise up and numbers will sway the tide of thought. Out of curiosity - how many people from Delhi (or ILUG-D for that matter) are planning to go to B'lore for foss.in (or would've gone if it would have not been promoting proprietary software)? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
Say, did you know that the first result on Google for XFree86 TrueType fonts is a page titled TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x Systems? And it does not mention 'defoma' anywhere! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Installing individually downloaded debian packages
# Short Question: How do I install a debian package which I've (manually) downloaded. I don't have a net connection so I can't use apt-get or something similar to fetch an entire package list and then install the package. # Long story: I trashed my Reliance connection and subscribed to Airtel DSL broadband. I have an NFORCE motherboard. So I downloaded the Linux drivers on a friend's comp and wrote them on to a CD. When I tried installing the drivers on my comp it couldn't find the kernel headers. So I went over to my friend's comp again and downloaded the kernel headers (strangely, the kernel's image was present on my 9 CD sarge set, but the headers and source were not). Now, I want to install this debian package that contains the kernel headers on my system. Which in turn will enable me to compile my ethernet card's driver, which in turn will enable me to get online! TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
In short, that doesn't sound *AT ALL* like what you should be using to install a TrueType font. Perhaps you should follow the instructions on the web page instead. Hmm... How come all the fonts installed on my system appear as symlinks in /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d ? Btw - if you feel Defoma is not the correct way, do you know any other way to install fonts 'system-wide'? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Installing individually downloaded debian packages
Got it... # dpkg -i package-name.deb Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
for anyother fonts , copy under /usr/share/fonts for systemwide usage or ~/.fonts for local usage. Won't i have to issue a ttmkdir (or something similar) command after copying the fonts to /usr/share/fonts? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Changing widget fonts in Openoffice.org (and other font issues)
Hi, Currently Openoffice.org on my computer looks like this: http://static.flickr.com/30/45386679_aa222327e5_o.png I find the font on the menus/widgets rather hard to read. How can I change it to something like Arial? Also, I have Arial installed on my system (msttcorefonts) - Firefox is able to use it, why isn't it visible in Openoffice.org? How do I make Openoffice.org use the 'system-wide' intalled fonts? TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
Quoting a reply I got on the Debian Users Mailing List: --- BEGIN --- You need the FreeType perl module. Go to http://packages.debian.org, use the search form at the bottom of the page, and enter Freetype.pm. The result will tell you which package to install. After installing the package you need to rerun defoma-hints (redirect the output to your hints file in /etc/defoma/hints). Check the resulting file. If everything looks okay, run defoma-reconfigure to apply the new configuration file. --- END --- Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
Hi, I've downloaded Akshar.ttf (unicode hindi font) and want to install it 'system-wide', i.e. all applications installed on the system should be able to use it. I tried using 'defoma' (DEbian FOnt MAnager) to install the font, but have not been successful. Here's what I did: # mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/indian # cp Akshar.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/indian # defoma-font register truetype Akshar.ttf Then I looked in /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/A but the symlink for Akshar.ttf was not there. I read through the manpage of defoma-font and figured out that a 'font hint' was required. This is what I did: #defoma-hints truetype Akshar.ttf Wait for second... defoma-hints Can't locate FreeType.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$locate FreeType.pm Can anyone help me out? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
So install FreeType.pm Which package is supposed to have it? And, why should this file suddenly disappear? I had installed the msttcorefonts package which is a collection of truetype fonts. All of them have installed correctly, apparently without FreeType.pm Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu CD from Freedel
Yes, ubuntu doesnt believe creating a separate root user is worth the risk of it being compromised. Wha? What the? 1. Use 'sudo command' to run a command with root priviledges. 2. Use 'sudo su -' to get a root shell. Doesn't 'sudo' ask for a root password? I got the following when I tried running sudo: --- BEGIN --- We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things: #1) Respect the privacy of others. #2) Think before you type. #3) With great power comes great responsibility. Password: --- END --- Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Xv, Mplayer problem on Debian
Hi, I am trying to compile MPlayer on my Debian machine but am running into a problem with the xv video output driver. MPlayer does not detect the Xv extension at all! Checking for Xv ... no Checking for XvMC ... no I cheched whether I had th Xv extension on my machine at all, and it indeed was there. /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1.0 I checked out my XF86Config file, but could not find any section related to configuration of the Xv extension. I checked out the XFree86 log, only to find the following: (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation Any solutions to the problem? TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Xv, Mplayer problem on Debian
MPlayer does not detect the Xv extension at all! Don't bother - I figured it out - one needs to have the Xv Development package installed as well! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Meeting 20050907
On 9/7/05, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Roshan Agrawal will be getting poster put at colleges in NOIDA and Ghaziabad. Hi, I would like to put up 2 posters at my office. Roshan, how can i have them from you? Probably from Vivek...? I, too, would like to put up a poster or two at my office (and probably my friends' offices as well). From whom should I collect them (one they are printed, that is!) ? Also, I am interested in being involved in designing the poster. Few of my logo designs can be found at http://geocities.com/sau_nanda/logos.html I have also designed a couple of posters for my college's Techfest. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Running Webserver from home
I asked something related to Airtel broadband on a different mailing list and I'm appending snippets of conversation that ensued. Some of this information might help you: - BEGIN SNIPPET #1 - How do you make Airtel work? The DSL router sits between the POTS splitter and the NIC on your machine. You get a small CAT5 and plug one end into the router and the other end into your NIC. The router becomes your gateway now. It has an internal IP and the external IP is dynamic (probably Radius'ed). The internal IP is configurable of course but it's set to some default initially so that you can log in to it and do whatever. - END SNIPPET #1 - - BEGIN SNIPPET #2 - Rs 500 has non-refundable installation charges and an additional Rs 100 per month as rental for the modem is it worth it? The sales executive said that the connection is shared and that I wont, ever, get the claimed 128 Kbps. I paid around 2000 as deposit + installation charges last September. The standard modem rental rate is Rs. 99/- pm. Go for a router instead at Rs. 199/- pm. Actually I'm planning to buy the router from them now because I've been paying 199 every month for 12 months now and the routers they're giving out now are pretty stupid (but still better than the modem option definitely). When I got my connection I got a ZyXEL router - a very good model with easy configurability. The site says it's a 1:2 DSL meaning it's shared. Now theoretically, DSL can never be shared because it works over your landline which means it's private to you. What this basically means is that (and probably the salesperson doesn't know it) there's a main line which is split such that every customer receives 128 kbps. I don't understand how else I've been getting 100% b/w on both u/l and d/l consistently day-in and day-out. After the upgrade to 256 kbps, any wget download off even a reasonably good server (any Gentoo mirror for instance) gives me a consistent 30 kBps which equates to 240 kbps of the promised 256 kbps. Considering that Airtel uses PPP over ATM (lot of overhead) this is very very good indeed. The uploads don't come upto 30 kBps, but that's probably because no one pulls from me at 30 kBps consistenly. The best way for you to check things out would be to visit a neighbour who has a DSL connection and try some wgetting. With my DSL there's no such thing as peak and off-peak time so you can try anytime you want. - END SNIPPET #2 - Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Running Webserver from home
Saurabh can you plz mention the mailing list . It's a closed mailing list of members of an admin team @ IITK maintaing a host of public services (Wiki, FTP indexing, DNS, etc.) Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list
The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed Just guessing - are you trying to send HTML mail, or probably sending out an attachment with the mail? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist
linux-delhi.org. The file is named talks-stripped.sxc (it's in OpenOffice spreadsheet format). Should be approved and available for download soon. Could you please upload in text/PDF/HTML format as well! TIA Nandz. PS: Why not post this on the Freedel blog? -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist
Who has the permissions to post on the Freedel blog? Please put up the list on the blog! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] First-cut talks shortlist
Creative Niyam Bhushan Creative More details? Probably the full title of the talk? Non-Geek Experiences with Linux Renuka Sane Ecosystem This should be really interesting :-) Pantoto Dinesh NGO More details? Probably the full title of the talk? What's Pantoto? GIS mapping for tsunami rehabilitation work Raj Ganesh NGO This should be interesting too! FES Migration and Adoption of FOSS Ramnarayan K NGO What's FES? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Call For Papers: ILUGD event in September
Has a sufficient number of talks been short-listed? Any publically available list of talks that have been shortlisted/submitted? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] OT - The Mythical Man Month - Views/reviews?
Hi, I've just ordered this classic from firstandsecond.com - and can't wait for them to deliver it... in the meantime... anyone out there who's already read it? View/reviews? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
1. If you reall want a woman in here f**king stop treating them like woman and treat them like other human beings. 2. If Women really think this is helping please look back, it only makes us think you want special treatment THE most sensible post on the thread! Stop asking for 'special treatment' and start behaving normally. Nnow, please, don't go off on a tangent with the argument that 'normal' behaviour is too manly and woman unfriendly, etc. etc. Men women have differences which should be resepected. Move on. Start turning up for meetings. Things will change automagically. Btw - I attended only one ILUG-d meet @ Sarai. That was about 4-5 years back. Have not been able to attend any meeting since then... is this group Saurabh Nanda unfriendly? Probably I should write a HOWTO on how to make Linux Users Group Saurabh Nanda friendly! Did you find that joke offensive? (PS: On second thoughts it's a bad joke... real bad :-p) There's only one 'feminist' I've met in my entire life who's agreed to the fact that women ask for wy too much special treatment. She's fed up of it herself. That's exactly what's happening here. (PS: http://jayajha.blogspot.com) I've been on this list for some time now... and I just can't fathom what exactly it is that stops females from joining and participating in discussion on the *mailing list*! sheesh.. it's just a mailing list!! I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. Rant stops here... go back to work and be more productive. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
again for you kind information kindly go to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Been there... read that. Not at all informative. The regular run-of-the-mill stuff! I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. So don't comment Dude - you're worse that me in nitpicking and starting flame wars. I suddenly feel better! Sure - wonder if women around you in the wrok place feel comfortable ??? I am not a woman but I am not sure if I would be comfortable working with people with such insensitive and limited attitudes Way too much extrapolation here. Just so that I don't get labelled an 'insensitive clod' - here goes: At my institude (college, university, whatever) - I tried initiating a LUG. Though the whole thing died within a couple of meets (the group was man *and* woman unfriendly, I guess, he he :-) I noticed something in the first meet. There were some men and women who had come to the first meet just for the heck of it... they wanted to see what's going on, etc. There was one girl, whom I knew, was interested in Linux, and was very enthusiastic in participating in the LUG. She didn't speak up in the first meet, nor in the second - even after being prompted/prodded to raise her opinion/voice. Then she stopped coming. What more does one need to do? Fall on our knees and beg to the females all around the world - PLEASE! Bless us with your benign presence and opinions... why can't they just behave normally rather than having special interest groups and movements, etc. etc. A LUG meet is not a godforsaken place where they're opressed, beaten up, harassed, sexually assaulted, etc. etc. Why the special treatment there? Just organize meets at earthly hours and places, so that females can make it (Delhi is not a nice place to go back late in the night!) Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
(Oh, and please disabuse yourself of the notion that only women are put off by crass behaviour. There do exist men who don't think respectful behaviour is special treatment.) Okay... brings me back to the point - other than making fun of them when they specifically ask for special treatment... what other kinds of disrespectful behaviour takes place on the mailing list? Instead of taking potshots at me, could you actually list out such disrespectful behaviour on the mailing list which causes such a less number of women to participate online? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux
If you are using Firefox then have a look at Adblock extenstion and load a filterset from Filterset.G (http://www.pierceive.com/) Thanks... it worked! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux
Hi, Any ad blocking software which runs out of the box for Linux? Preferably available as a Debian package! I'm on a Reliance connection and man, it's SLOW!! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] unable to mount floopy from linux user side
what I tries here : to put one entry in /etc/mtab file like this You are not supposed to edit /etc/mtab. It is updated by mount automatically each time a filesystem is mounted/unmounted. So please tell me from which file, I can make the system to mount the floopy from the user imdps account. try the following command from user imdps: imdps$ mount -tvfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floopy Nandz. PS: FYI it's popularly known as a 'floppy' -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Using Graphical Interface using ssh on networked machines
You could use something called SSH X Forwarding... I forget the exact name right now. The good-ol' method is: host1$ xhost +host2 host1$ ssh host2 host2$ export DISPLAY=host1:0 host2$ gimp Hope you get it... mail back if you want a detailed explanation. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Using Graphical Interface using ssh on networked machines
(The xhost is unnecessary, and the export is wrong, but the idea is exactly right. :) Eh? did I mess up something? Why is the export wrong? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day
Hi, Anyone in or near Gurgaon who can lend me his/her Reliance Data Cable for a day? Basically I want to check whether it works with Linux and the transfer speeds. First hand reviews about RConnect with Linux are welcome! TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day
Hi Puneet, Thanks a lot! I don't remember the exact model of my phone (it's a WLL landline though). I'll go home and check it and let you know! How's the speed? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Wanted Reliance Data Cable for a Day
the speed is not that great - in Bangalore I get 6Kbps. However, the Is that kilo *bytes* per second, or kilo *bits* per second? I've already spent some money on RAM and have a Reliance WLL landline @ home. I don't want to spend more money on installation costs of Airtel/Tata Indycom/BSNL. Thus I'll go in for Reliance if it's decent for surfing, chatting, remote administration of servers, and an occasional dowload of tarballs! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] mozilla web browser jvm enabled?
You could probably type about:plugins in the URL bar and see for yourself. Nandz. On 14 Jul 2005 15:37:29 +0530, Pardeep Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is our Mozilla web browser JVM(Java virtual machine) enabled by default or we have to enable it ?? -Pardeep ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux redistribution legality
Does anyone know if what they are doing is legal or not ? I don't know the exact licensing agreement for SuSE Linux, but Redhat has something like this: All their work (or almost all) is GPLed. That means you get the four freedoms on the code. BUT the trademarks and logos are not freely distributable. The extract from RHL 9's EULA sums it up - THE RED HAT TRADEMARK, THE BLUECURVE TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS. So, you may copy the entire CD and redistribute it but you can't call it a Redhat product. You have to remove all Redhat logos and trademarks before redistribtuion. This effectively nullifies any brand equity that you might get from redistributing a 'Redhat product' per se. I hope I've made this subtle point clear. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] About rsync command
Try using the 'netstat' command to check active connections. I would use: $ netstat -al|less Nandz. On 7/5/05, nitya bansal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anybody answer my question? my ques is- if i m doing rsync from remote server 'say A' to my server that means transfer data from remote server to my server and rsync command is running on my computer than is it possible to check on remote server(A) that data is going outside or something is rsync'ed from that(A) server -- Nitya Bansal ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Printing a LARGE pdf
Hi, I've unsuccessfully tried to print the 'Cable Wallah' article from the ILUGD downloads section. (http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/download.cgi?action=fileDownloaddId=69) The PDF is not split into pages, its one single continuing document. Can the original author please upload the original document, upload a PDF split up into pages, or tell me how to print this document on mutliple pages? (I'm in my office and am on a Windows PC.) TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
