Re: Can't install 10.3 on iMac G3
If you are unsure about the disc images you downloaded, I can give you a link to my Dropbox with images I have personally burned and used for installation many times. On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Kostsei Kuolematon <kostsei.kuolema...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've bought an old iMac G3 (333MHz, 128MB RAM), no firewire, no DVD, no CD > burning. Since it doesn't support Airport, I've found and bought an old USB > WiFi adapter, but still it only has drivers for OS X 10.3 while I have 10.1 > at the moment. I've replaced hard drive for 120GB one and was able to > reinstall the original OS 8.5, then 9.2.2 and finally OS X 10.1. I've > checked the firmware update and it's up to date, the hard drive is also > fine. Actually everything works until it comes to 10.3 install. > > I wanted to buy the original retail OS X Panther, but couldn't find it in > Moscow (Russia). I've searched on Ebay and Amazon but the prices (including > shipping to my destination) were unacceptable — I can't afford to pay $200+ > for a hopelessly outdated OS... So I had no option rather then downloading > OS from the internet. I've downloaded several versions, burned install discs > on my MacBook Pro under OS X 10.11 with Toast Titanium. But most of the CDs > didn't boot and iMac doesn't even read them. The one set (3 install CDs) > seemed fine, it boots and verifies the CD (okay), than installation begins, > but it always gets stuck at 76%, computer gets unresponsive. And if I try > the install once again right after it failed, the disc doesn't boot and gets > stuck at white screen or white screen with logo. After some time switched > off it works again. Some discs are read on MacBook, but won't read on iMac. > And also when I tried to verify the install CD with Disk Utility it reported > "Error: No valid packages (-9997)". I can't understand whether my install CD > is bad (but how the install verifies it normally than?), or iMac optical > drive? Or both? I've tried to find out what this error on CD could mean, but > couldn't find anything. > > I've been struggling with this iMac for almost 3 weeks and have spent more > money, than the computer itself did cost. This is especially hard because I > live in Russia and it's barely possible to find the spare parts for the old > Apple computers and shipping from abroad became too expansive, while I've > bought this computer only because it's fun and interesting thing for me, but > I'm not going to work on it, cause I have the modern MacBook, so I didn't > plan to spend really lot of money for simply having this toy-like computer > working. > > Any help is much appreciated! > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't install 10.3 on iMac G3
I've had issues with picky G3 iMacs in the past, and have gotten them to install from burned CDs by using a USB external CD/DVD drive. It's a little slower than the internal because they are only USB 1.1, but it usually works. > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Kostsei Kuolematon > <kostsei.kuolema...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I've bought an old iMac G3 (333MHz, 128MB RAM), no firewire, no DVD, no CD >> burning. Since it doesn't support Airport, I've found and bought an old USB >> WiFi adapter, but still it only has drivers for OS X 10.3 while I have 10.1 >> at the moment. I've replaced hard drive for 120GB one and was able to >> reinstall the original OS 8.5, then 9.2.2 and finally OS X 10.1. I've >> checked the firmware update and it's up to date, the hard drive is also >> fine. Actually everything works until it comes to 10.3 install. >> -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't install 10.3 on iMac G3
You need to look at LowEndMac.com You can run OS10.4 Tiger WITH something called ExPostFacto Free from OWC. You HAVE to swap out the CD-ROM drive for a DVD-RW burner. Using the Expansion Bay sled from that drive. As per instructions found at LowEndMac. The article is by an Englishman whose name I forget. Write Dan Knight, there, about this if al else fails. Any mid 2000s tray loading thin laptop burner will work... $5 to $10 on eBay... shipping would be more than that.. I've done all that, and MORE to my 1999 PB G3/333 Lombard. Also added a 400Mhz. logic board to get the DVD decoder. Which only works with OS9.2.2.. One ends up with 512MB RAM and A 1MB L2 Cache Plays DVD movies just fine. even ripped ones Under 10.4 Tiger ones uses VLC for PPC to play DVDs with a slight hiccup over 10 or 15 seconds Not so bad.. You need to search YouTube for people who have done all these things to their Lombards I could not give you all the instruction you need Good luck! J.C. On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Kostsei Kuolematon < kostsei.kuolema...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've bought an old iMac G3 (333MHz, 128MB RAM), no firewire, no DVD, no CD > burning. Since it doesn't support Airport, I've found and bought an old USB > WiFi adapter, but still it only has drivers for OS X 10.3 while I have 10.1 > at the moment. I've replaced hard drive for 120GB one and was able to > reinstall the original OS 8.5, then 9.2.2 and finally OS X 10.1. I've > checked the firmware update and it's up to date, the hard drive is also > fine. Actually everything works until it comes to 10.3 install. > > I wanted to buy the original retail OS X Panther, but couldn't find it in > Moscow (Russia). I've searched on Ebay and Amazon but the prices (including > shipping to my destination) were unacceptable — I can't afford to pay $200+ > for a hopelessly outdated OS... So I had no option rather then > downloading OS from the internet. I've downloaded several versions, burned > install discs on my MacBook Pro under OS X 10.11 with Toast Titanium. But > most of the CDs didn't boot and iMac doesn't even read them. The one set (3 > install CDs) seemed fine, it boots and verifies the CD (okay), than > installation begins, but it always gets stuck at 76%, computer gets > unresponsive. And if I try the install once again right after it failed, > the disc doesn't boot and gets stuck at white screen or white screen with > logo. After some time switched off it works again. Some discs are read on > MacBook, but won't read on iMac. And also when I tried to verify the > install CD with Disk Utility it reported "Error: No valid packages > (-9997)". I can't understand whether my install CD is bad (but how the > install verifies it normally than?), or iMac optical drive? Or both? I've > tried to find out what this error on CD could mean, but couldn't find > anything. > > I've been struggling with this iMac for almost 3 weeks and have spent more > money, than the computer itself did cost. This is especially hard because I > live in Russia and it's barely possible to find the spare parts for the old > Apple computers and shipping from abroad became too expansive, while I've > bought this computer only because it's fun and interesting thing for me, > but I'm not going to work on it, cause I have the modern MacBook, so I > didn't plan to spend really lot of money for simply having this toy-like > computer working. > > Any help is much appreciated! > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: iMac G3 - anyone in UK willing to breathe life back..?
Thanks Mike I am in Peterborough so not near at all. I might take up the advice of the guy above and have a go! I was nervous because I saw warnings about high voltage! Colin On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 8:48:06 PM UTC, Mike Linnett wrote: > > Whereabouts in the uk? > I'm in Bristol, can't promise anything, but have fixed a couple up in the > past. > Maybe tell us what's up and we'll try and diagnose? > > --- > Mike Linnett > 07515877812 > notacello.net > > On 22 Jan 2016, 20:29 +, Julia Brinckloe <jmbr...@gmail.com > >, wrote: > > I also live in the U.S., but having bought or inherited a number of ailing > iMac G3's--13 to date--I have managed with my limited knowledge and skill > to fix and upgrade them ALL--merely by Googling each machine, system and > problem. Honestly, you can do this. And parts are out there--some even "new > old stock." Good luck! > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mark Sokolovsky <coolm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> I live in the US. Had I have lived there, I'd gladly fix them. >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a >> group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to imac...@googlegroups.com >> >> To leave this group, send email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "iMac Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imac...@googlegroups.com > > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 - anyone in UK willing to breathe life back..?
I live in the US. Had I have lived there, I'd gladly fix them. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 - anyone in UK willing to breathe life back..?
Whereabouts in the uk? I'm in Bristol, can't promise anything, but have fixed a couple up in the past. Maybe tell us what's up and we'll try and diagnose? --- Mike Linnett 07515877812 notacello.net On 22 Jan 2016, 20:29 +, Julia Brinckloe<jmbri...@gmail.com>, wrote: > I also live in the U.S., but having bought or inherited a number of ailing > iMac G3's--13 to date--I have managed with my limited knowledge and skill to > fix and upgrade them ALL--merely by Googling each machine, system and > problem. Honestly, you can do this. And parts are out there--some even "new > old stock." Good luck! > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mark > Sokolovsky<coolmar...@gmail.com(mailto:coolmar...@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > I live in the US. Had I have lived there, I'd gladly fix them. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > > The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette > > guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email > > toimacl...@googlegroups.com(mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com) > > To leave this group, send email > > toimaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com(mailto:imaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com) > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "iMac Group" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email > > toimaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com(mailto:imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group > for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette > guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > toimaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com(mailto:imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 - anyone in UK willing to breathe life back..?
I also live in the U.S., but having bought or inherited a number of ailing iMac G3's--13 to date--I have managed with my limited knowledge and skill to fix and upgrade them ALL--merely by Googling each machine, system and problem. Honestly, you can do this. And parts are out there--some even "new old stock." Good luck! On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mark Sokolovsky <coolmar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I live in the US. Had I have lived there, I'd gladly fix them. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a > group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMac G3 - anyone in UK willing to breathe life back..?
Hello Anyone in UK willing to fix two for me... I don't want a fish tank or a flower power cat box! C Cambridgeshire -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 400 Summer 2000 - wont boot
I have been on this list for years, but I just happened across your message. It was very easy to replace the hard drive in the iMac 400DV. You have to take the computer apart, but ifixit has a how-to with pics. I got rid of mine many years ago, but I might still have the disks if you need them. Kari On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Colin Yarwood colin.yarw...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again! So, apologies for the typos before :-( I removed the original PRAM battery and replaced it with a more recent but perhaps not quite new one and we have a little progress: The start button has stopped flickering and after 9 seconds held down goes off I found the unbent paperclip click point and ther was no disk inside. I found my original two CDs and tried to put them in. The slot accepts them takes tem in and in the nicest possible way - pushes them out again... no go there. I tried all the options again including shift hed down, ctrl cmd, c, a no go I dug out a Formac FW CD/DVD drive which I connected up (it works on my MBP!) but it wont allow the iMac to boot either of the CDs if installed. I have tried a USB card reader with a flash memory module which has various Mac OS's installed but zilch. I will order a new PRAM battery today and try again but otherwsie it seems likely to be more problematical and probably HDD related? Does anyone know if the CD drivers are on the HDD or in ROM? If on HDD that would explain why it wont load the CD...? Wouldnt it? I see elsewhere that replacing an HDD in an iMac isnt seen as being a user job. any thoughts as to what my disk options would be. size limits? Its running OS 9.0 at present but I am happy to install OS X. Advice, thoughts? Colin On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 8:54:40 PM UTC+1, jmbrinck wrote: Same thing happened not long ago with my old Mac 6100CD. And a new PRAM battery got it booted. Worth a try. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Colin Yarwood colin@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys Having good my LC475 and PB1400s working again ;-) I thought Id pull the old iMac Indigo out and see if I can get it to run. I recall we had it halt and it didnt want to start again c 2003 before we put it in the garage... So, got it out cleaned it up and added a keyboard and mouse and connected up to mains. Pressed the button and it went clunk and a green light lit around the button and flickers - something somewhere inside the case flutters regularly but no sign of life on the screen. I tried option startup keys and it doesnt do any different - no FW mode startup, No alt disk. I think there is a CD in the slot - I couldnt put its original CD in anyway and as its a slot loader I could not find the paper clip with to eject it powered on or not! I looked at leaft and right of slot without success :-( I have a FW disk and pugged it in and tried to start it but while its light came on it went off as did the green light on the iMac. Any ideas? PRAM Battery? Same as LC475 3.6 V? Colin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imac...@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: iMac G3 400 Summer 2000 - wont boot
that should say have NOT been on this list On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Kari Rasmason krasma...@gmail.com wrote: I have been on this list for years, but I just happened across your message. It was very easy to replace the hard drive in the iMac 400DV. You have to take the computer apart, but ifixit has a how-to with pics. I got rid of mine many years ago, but I might still have the disks if you need them. Kari On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Colin Yarwood colin.yarw...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again! So, apologies for the typos before :-( I removed the original PRAM battery and replaced it with a more recent but perhaps not quite new one and we have a little progress: The start button has stopped flickering and after 9 seconds held down goes off I found the unbent paperclip click point and ther was no disk inside. I found my original two CDs and tried to put them in. The slot accepts them takes tem in and in the nicest possible way - pushes them out again... no go there. I tried all the options again including shift hed down, ctrl cmd, c, a no go I dug out a Formac FW CD/DVD drive which I connected up (it works on my MBP!) but it wont allow the iMac to boot either of the CDs if installed. I have tried a USB card reader with a flash memory module which has various Mac OS's installed but zilch. I will order a new PRAM battery today and try again but otherwsie it seems likely to be more problematical and probably HDD related? Does anyone know if the CD drivers are on the HDD or in ROM? If on HDD that would explain why it wont load the CD...? Wouldnt it? I see elsewhere that replacing an HDD in an iMac isnt seen as being a user job. any thoughts as to what my disk options would be. size limits? Its running OS 9.0 at present but I am happy to install OS X. Advice, thoughts? Colin On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 8:54:40 PM UTC+1, jmbrinck wrote: Same thing happened not long ago with my old Mac 6100CD. And a new PRAM battery got it booted. Worth a try. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Colin Yarwood colin@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys Having good my LC475 and PB1400s working again ;-) I thought Id pull the old iMac Indigo out and see if I can get it to run. I recall we had it halt and it didnt want to start again c 2003 before we put it in the garage... So, got it out cleaned it up and added a keyboard and mouse and connected up to mains. Pressed the button and it went clunk and a green light lit around the button and flickers - something somewhere inside the case flutters regularly but no sign of life on the screen. I tried option startup keys and it doesnt do any different - no FW mode startup, No alt disk. I think there is a CD in the slot - I couldnt put its original CD in anyway and as its a slot loader I could not find the paper clip with to eject it powered on or not! I looked at leaft and right of slot without success :-( I have a FW disk and pugged it in and tried to start it but while its light came on it went off as did the green light on the iMac. Any ideas? PRAM Battery? Same as LC475 3.6 V? Colin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imac...@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to
Re: iMac G3 Bondi - Voodoo 2 card in mezzanine slot
Try looking for a Voodoo 2 driver for OS X; That's the thing that should be required. I could also help you to get Linux working. You do not need a mezzanine driver: It is simply a PCI slot with an alternate connector. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMac G3 400 Summer 2000 - wont boot
Hi Guys Having good my LC475 and PB1400s working again ;-) I thought Id pull the old iMac Indigo out and see if I can get it to run. I recall we had it halt and it didnt want to start again c 2003 before we put it in the garage... So, got it out cleaned it up and added a keyboard and mouse and connected up to mains. Pressed the button and it went clunk and a green light lit around the button and flickers - something somewhere inside the case flutters regularly but no sign of life on the screen. I tried option startup keys and it doesnt do any different - no FW mode startup, No alt disk. I think there is a CD in the slot - I couldnt put its original CD in anyway and as its a slot loader I could not find the paper clip with to eject it powered on or not! I looked at leaft and right of slot without success :-( I have a FW disk and pugged it in and tried to start it but while its light came on it went off as did the green light on the iMac. Any ideas? PRAM Battery? Same as LC475 3.6 V? Colin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 400 Summer 2000 - wont boot
Same thing happened not long ago with my old Mac 6100CD. And a new PRAM battery got it booted. Worth a try. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Colin Yarwood colin.yarw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys Having good my LC475 and PB1400s working again ;-) I thought Id pull the old iMac Indigo out and see if I can get it to run. I recall we had it halt and it didnt want to start again c 2003 before we put it in the garage... So, got it out cleaned it up and added a keyboard and mouse and connected up to mains. Pressed the button and it went clunk and a green light lit around the button and flickers - something somewhere inside the case flutters regularly but no sign of life on the screen. I tried option startup keys and it doesnt do any different - no FW mode startup, No alt disk. I think there is a CD in the slot - I couldnt put its original CD in anyway and as its a slot loader I could not find the paper clip with to eject it powered on or not! I looked at leaft and right of slot without success :-( I have a FW disk and pugged it in and tried to start it but while its light came on it went off as did the green light on the iMac. Any ideas? PRAM Battery? Same as LC475 3.6 V? Colin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Salvaging an Imac G3 -233mhz
i picked up a G3 (233) on the street before the snowfall began last year, and i didnt see it at first but the Monitor tube is damaged, (blow out and neck was smashed off.) i extracted it's mainboard which LOOKS intact but i see the mainboard interfaces on the monitor's side for power, does anyone have a working G3 where the mintor works but dead mainboard they're willing to sell/offer? or know a way to run it w/o the internal Display (using the external VGA in the back.) i dont want to persay. Canabalize my G3 SnowWhite to test or use this mainboard unless i know theres no other way or i cant get a spare Case so to speak. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 Snow—equivalent to original optical drive
After reading the service manual for this machine, I realized that if the plastic casing is not properly installed it can keep the optical discs from ejecting and this is the issue my iMac has (bought second hand) so I will investigate and likely refurb the drive to the best of my ability. Thanks for the reply and tips! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMac G3 Snow—equivalent to original optical drive
Alex, try www.otherworldcomputing.com If they don't have a new piece that works, they would have refurbished to think about--maybe. -OR- lowendmac.com, and ask them about your iMac G3. On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Alex Santos santos.pol...@gmail.com wrote: Dear users I have an iMac G3 Snow. I would like to purchase a new optical drive that behaves the same way as the original and could physically fit in the drive bay. I am not interested in finding an Apple branded drive as they would likely all be used/refurbed, have a short warranty and likely cost too much. I don't want an external device. Before I forget, it should be able to boot my original discs, OS9 OSX retail. Are equivalent drives still made today that I can purchase? I would sincerely appreciate any guidance. Thank you very much! Alex -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMac G3 Snow—equivalent to original optical drive
Dear users I have an iMac G3 Snow. I would like to purchase a new optical drive that behaves the same way as the original and could physically fit in the drive bay. I am not interested in finding an Apple branded drive as they would likely all be used/refurbed, have a short warranty and likely cost too much. I don't want an external device. Before I forget, it should be able to boot my original discs, OS9 OSX retail. Are equivalent drives still made today that I can purchase? I would sincerely appreciate any guidance. Thank you very much! Alex -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
Kmowledge is always more than welcome, thanks for sharing the tidbits. Much appreciated. On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:06:31 UTC+1, Xion Dracari wrote: only reason i suggested OF was if he was encountering a known bug that affected some iMacs (it was an issue w/ certain DVi iMacs that you had to use OF commands to boot OSX CD's)but its something to look into if a last resort of a USB External cd drive, if the OP's imac isnt using it's orginal drive or a Apple branded drive it could be a indication why, or simply that the drive is beginning to fail. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: I don't know why you would need any sort of trick, I maintained a ton (literally) of that vintage iMac running OSes 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 10.4 and only ever needed to press 'c' or use the option feature to get them to boot a CD. KK6ISP Yet another designated driver on the information super highway. On Dec 30, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote: i had a G3 400mhz DVi iMac and i always had to do the OpenFirmware Boot trick to make anything above OS9 boot, the OF trick i belive went like boot cd:,\\:tbxi its been too long since i had it ( i traded up for a Snowwhite 600mhz G3.) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
For 15 bucks why not just buy an original? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Power-Macintosh-Mac-G3-Software-Install-Restore-OS-8-6-/111560937379?pt=US_Operating_Systems_Softwarehash=item19f98ccfa3 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: I don't know why you would need any sort of trick, I maintained a ton (literally) of that vintage iMac running OSes 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 10.4 and only ever needed to press 'c' or use the option feature to get them to boot a CD. KK6ISP Yet another designated driver on the information super highway. On Dec 30, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote: i had a G3 400mhz DVi iMac and i always had to do the OpenFirmware Boot trick to make anything above OS9 boot, the OF trick i belive went like boot cd:,\\:tbxi its been too long since i had it ( i traded up for a Snowwhite 600mhz G3.) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
If the iMac fails to read the discs: As an FYI, I beleive the optical drive in the iMac maybe faulty, try other discs to confirm. 1) Burn at 1x speed or whatever the slowest burn speed you can choose on a different computer - maybe this can help. Disk Utility will suffice. ---burning slowly achieves a better burn in my experience and I believe this is commonly advised. I can certainly vouch for it. 2) Does the affected iMac read other CDs, particularly the original discs it shipped with? It should unless the drive is faulty in which case it should be cleaned. 3) I think you can choose English if you choose to restore or resinstall and choose options from the installer. A little fuzzy on this point right now. 4) Insert the CD you wish to boot from and then hold the alt (option on N.AM keyboards) immediately after turning on the iMac and then you should see the boot menu. Of course you can hold the C key unless the C key is faulty in which case you can simply try another USB keyboard. 5) Please check if any of these updates apply to your iMac, especially look for firmware updates but from what I remeber the firmware was specific to getting OSX installed but I'm not sure if it was for your model. Still it wouldnt hurt to chec this, http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT2560 Hope this helps sorry if I repeated what others have already mentioned. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
I agree, there should be no reason to go into OF (open firmware) to load the CD - try alt or hold C on boot, if it fails check keyboard or try other USB port. On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:44:59 UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: I don't know why you would need any sort of trick, I maintained a ton (literally) of that vintage iMac running OSes 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 10.4 and only ever needed to press 'c' or use the option feature to get them to boot a CD. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
only reason i suggested OF was if he was encountering a known bug that affected some iMacs (it was an issue w/ certain DVi iMacs that you had to use OF commands to boot OSX CD's)but its something to look into if a last resort of a USB External cd drive, if the OP's imac isnt using it's orginal drive or a Apple branded drive it could be a indication why, or simply that the drive is beginning to fail. On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Alex Santos santos.pol...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, there should be no reason to go into OF (open firmware) to load the CD - try alt or hold C on boot, if it fails check keyboard or try other USB port. On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:44:59 UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: I don't know why you would need any sort of trick, I maintained a ton (literally) of that vintage iMac running OSes 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 10.4 and only ever needed to press 'c' or use the option feature to get them to boot a CD. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
I recently purchased an iMac G3 (http://lowendmac.com/1999/imac-rev-d/) in really good shape. It came with the original installation/recovery discs but they are in Dutch, and are for Mac OS 8.5.1. The discs still works fine, but I'd like to install an English version of 8.6 instead. I have an ISO image of the installation CDs for this exact model (8.6 and in English), but I am finding it impossible to burn them to a CD. I have tried: * Disc Utility on OS X 10.10.2. This was my obvious first choice. * Toast 5 Titanium on OS X 10.1 (on my Power Mac G4). I used this version because it has a Mac Volume option, as well as a Bootable checkbox. * Different brands CD-Rs. * Different ISO images (8.6 Retail, iMac Install, iMac Recovery). * Burning at low speeds (between 1x and 4x). But none of them are readable on the iMac. The iMac tried to read the disc but tells me it cannot read it and asks me to initialize it. Sometimes the disc does show up on the desktop, and I can read it (slowly), but it cannot boot from it. The disc is readable on my iBook (original clamshell running 9.1) although I cannot boot from it there as well. Any help? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
On Dec 30, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Steven Van Impe steven.vani...@icloud.com wrote: I recently purchased an iMac G3 (http://lowendmac.com/1999/imac-rev-d/) in really good shape. It came with the original installation/recovery discs but they are in Dutch, and are for Mac OS 8.5.1. The discs still works fine, but I'd like to install an English version of 8.6 instead. I have an ISO image of the installation CDs for this exact model (8.6 and in English), but I am finding it impossible to burn them to a CD. I have tried: * Disc Utility on OS X 10.10.2. This was my obvious first choice. * Toast 5 Titanium on OS X 10.1 (on my Power Mac G4). I used this version because it has a Mac Volume option, as well as a Bootable checkbox. * Different brands CD-Rs. * Different ISO images (8.6 Retail, iMac Install, iMac Recovery). * Burning at low speeds (between 1x and 4x). But none of them are readable on the iMac. The iMac tried to read the disc but tells me it cannot read it and asks me to initialize it. Sometimes the disc does show up on the desktop, and I can read it (slowly), but it cannot boot from it. The disc is readable on my iBook (original clamshell running 9.1) although I cannot boot from it there as well. Any help? This points to possible issues with the drive on the G3. The LEM profile says it's a 24x CD-ROM. Back in the day many CD-ROM drives had issues reading CD-R or CD-RW disks. Try cleaning it? Perhaps you can install the Dutch version of 8.5 and upgrade it with the English version of 8.6? Perhaps you can choose English as the language at install time for 8.5? I don't remember how far back Apple offered multi-lingual systems, but I'm reasonably certain that European systems would include English. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
i had a G3 400mhz DVi iMac and i always had to do the OpenFirmware Boot trick to make anything above OS9 boot, the OF trick i belive went like boot cd:,\\:tbxi its been too long since i had it ( i traded up for a Snowwhite 600mhz G3.) On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 30, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Steven Van Impe steven.vani...@icloud.com wrote: I recently purchased an iMac G3 (http://lowendmac.com/1999/imac-rev-d/) in really good shape. It came with the original installation/recovery discs but they are in Dutch, and are for Mac OS 8.5.1. The discs still works fine, but I'd like to install an English version of 8.6 instead. I have an ISO image of the installation CDs for this exact model (8.6 and in English), but I am finding it impossible to burn them to a CD. I have tried: * Disc Utility on OS X 10.10.2. This was my obvious first choice. * Toast 5 Titanium on OS X 10.1 (on my Power Mac G4). I used this version because it has a Mac Volume option, as well as a Bootable checkbox. * Different brands CD-Rs. * Different ISO images (8.6 Retail, iMac Install, iMac Recovery). * Burning at low speeds (between 1x and 4x). But none of them are readable on the iMac. The iMac tried to read the disc but tells me it cannot read it and asks me to initialize it. Sometimes the disc does show up on the desktop, and I can read it (slowly), but it cannot boot from it. The disc is readable on my iBook (original clamshell running 9.1) although I cannot boot from it there as well. Any help? This points to possible issues with the drive on the G3. The LEM profile says it's a 24x CD-ROM. Back in the day many CD-ROM drives had issues reading CD-R or CD-RW disks. Try cleaning it? Perhaps you can install the Dutch version of 8.5 and upgrade it with the English version of 8.6? Perhaps you can choose English as the language at install time for 8.5? I don't remember how far back Apple offered multi-lingual systems, but I'm reasonably certain that European systems would include English. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
I don't know why you would need any sort of trick, I maintained a ton (literally) of that vintage iMac running OSes 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 10.4 and only ever needed to press 'c' or use the option feature to get them to boot a CD. KK6ISP Yet another designated driver on the information super highway. On Dec 30, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote: i had a G3 400mhz DVi iMac and i always had to do the OpenFirmware Boot trick to make anything above OS9 boot, the OF trick i belive went like boot cd:,\\:tbxi its been too long since i had it ( i traded up for a Snowwhite 600mhz G3.) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMac G3 Bondi - Voodoo 2 card in mezzanine slot
Hi group. I came across an old iMac G3 Bondi Blue with what looks like the old Voodoo 2 video card installed in the mezzanine slot. The computer boots and then locks up in some version of Linux. My plan is to reformat the drive and install OS 9 10 as a dual boot. I'd like to take advantage of the video card upgrade but I don't know if it will be recognized or if there are drivers that need to be installed (and if so where I can find them). A search of the internet hasn't yielded any good results. Was hoping there was someone here who could point me in a direction. Thanks. Jon. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks
Hey sis - So what else you been up to besides keeping Jobs old silicon warm? On Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:11:01 AM UTC-8, Haila Vickland wrote: You can try ebay.com. Older software is often sold by ebay. Also try: www.lowendmac.com. It would also be helpful to post your question on the mac site on Craigslist. I have an old imac of the same vintage (M5521) and I like it a lot. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Playing video on a slot-loading iMac G3
On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:44 AM, Clark Martin wrote: I think you are pretty much stuck though, other than using DVD playback, the G3 just isn't up to full sized video playback. Not entirely. I've had the same problem trying to figure out how to make G3-compatible videos with my modern Intel setup, but it is certainly doable. I've got plenty of large (up to 640x480) commercials from the Apple website circa 1999-2001 that play beautifully even on my PDQ. There is definitely a way to make decent quality Quicktime videos play on a G3 Mac, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it. Steven -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing video on a slot-loading iMac G3
This is a guess and a poor one at that. IIRC it checks for a DVD drive and it doesn't have to be internal. You should be able to do it with a USB DVD drive. You could also use an OS X compatible IDE to USB adapter and use the control board on the adapter. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing video on a slot-loading iMac G3
At Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:36:58 -0800, D. Fabel wrote: My daughter is using a few old iMac G3 slot-loaders for a kiosk-style informational video for her robotics team's upcoming competition. She has put together a video in iMovie, but we can't seem to find the right settings to get the video to playback smoothly in Quicktime (these are 400-500MHz, 768MB-1GB Ram, running 10.4). She's tried exporting the video to a Quicktime movie using various settings, but nothing has worked so far - the audio is always great, but the video just can't keep up. Would anyone happen to know what format the video would need to be for this to work well? The solution she has come up with is to create a DVD with iDVD, move the TS_Video folder to the hard drive, and then run the video using DVD player. Unfortunately, this only works on the iMac's that have an internal DVD drive. The ones that are CD only refuse to let the DVD player app start up. Is there a work around for that? I would love to put a few kids movies on one of these old boxes as a video babysitter while my wife and I steal a few moments together away from my youngest. I would try using VLC Media Player - there is an OS 10.4 version that I see - to play the DVD video off the internal hard disk. -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing video on a slot-loading iMac G3
On Jan 22, 2013, at 2:36 PM, D. Fabel wrote: My daughter is using a few old iMac G3 slot-loaders for a kiosk-style informational video for her robotics team's upcoming competition. She has put together a video in iMovie, but we can't seem to find the right settings to get the video to playback smoothly in Quicktime (these are 400-500MHz, 768MB-1GB Ram, running 10.4). She's tried exporting the video to a Quicktime movie using various settings, but nothing has worked so far - the audio is always great, but the video just can't keep up. Would anyone happen to know what format the video would need to be for this to work well? For starters, crank the video resolution as LOW as it will go (640x480 if you can). This way the video decoder doesn't have to deal with as many pixels. The solution she has come up with is to create a DVD with iDVD, move the TS_Video folder to the hard drive, and then run the video using DVD player. Unfortunately, this only works on the iMac's that have an internal DVD drive. The ones that are CD only refuse to let the DVD player app start up. Is there a work around for that? I would love to put a few kids movies on one of these old boxes as a video babysitter while my wife and I steal a few moments together away from my youngest. I'm not certain about this but the machines without a DVD drive may not have the DVD decoding hardware so if you can get it to play the TS_Video folder it would have to use software so you are back to the same problem as with QuickTime. I think you are pretty much stuck though, other than using DVD playback, the G3 just isn't up to full sized video playback. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
Hey Doug, Yeah, I have 3 of these, but they are still in the Imacs. I can remove one I guess, but as the computers won't boot for a variety of reasons, I am unable to tell if they are working. Do u want me to remove one and (Mail?) it to you? Dave Sheppard On 2012-08-31, at 9:50 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
Dave, If you're sure you don't want to salvage them, I'd sure appreciate it. I'd imagine the sound board work just fine, so I'm not worried about testing it. The one I have doesn't work because the iMac was dropped on it's face and this little sound board seemed to take the brunt of the fall. When the computer was picked up, the sound board was loose and rattling around in the case. Upon removal, I found the board cracked in half. I'm guessing when the iMac fell that since the headphone jacks protrude a little bit proud of the face of the computer it cracked. Anyways, it appears that the iMac now thinks headphones are always plugged in as I can't get any sound out of the speakers. Were you planning on scrapping these? If so, I might be interested in other parts/pieces too??? Especially if any of them were the DVD model. We're headed out for a while. Probably won't be back by email for a day or so, so no rush. Thanks again, Doug On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Dave Sheppard wrote: Hey Doug, Yeah, I have 3 of these, but they are still in the Imacs. I can remove one I guess, but as the computers won't boot for a variety of reasons, I am unable to tell if they are working. Do u want me to remove one and (Mail?) it to you? Dave Sheppard On 2012-08-31, at 9:50 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
from lowendmac: Steve Jobs announced this faster, more feature laden iMac at Macworld Expo 99 in San Francisco. In addition to a 14% faster CPU and 50% larger hard drive, the 266 MHz iMac shipped in five different colors: tangerine, grape, lime, blueberry, and strawberry. *There are rumors that some Bondi blue ones were built in January 1999 using the last of the Bondi cases.* * * It has to be a rare machine, but it says it's a 266 with a 6GB drive behind the door. It is bondi-blue, and has no Infared port on the front, indicating it is a Rev C, from what I understand. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
Right, and it's not on everymac.com either.. Steve Jobs announced this faster, more feature laden iMac at Macworld Expo 99 in San Francisco. In addition to a 14% faster CPU and 50% larger hard drive, the 266 MHz iMac shipped in five different colors: tangerine, grape, lime, blueberry, and strawberry. *There are rumors that some Bondi blue ones were built in January 1999 using the last of the Bondi cases.* * * It's definitely a bondi-blue 266... strange. I'll be holding onto it until I find out if it has any rare collector value. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
It is in fact bondi-blue, and the factory sticker indicates 266MHz with a 6GB drive, thereby meaning it must be a Rev. C. There was some information on lowendmac about a rumor that Apple had extra bondi cases left, so they used them in 99 for Rev C. models... You can tell it's definitely a Rev C because there is no IrDA port on the front like all the others... aside from the factory specs of 266/6GB... I'll be holding onto it until I figure out how rare it is. There isn't a single one to be found on eBay. On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:13:05 PM UTC-5, Matthew Gill wrote: I stumbled across an iMac G3 Bondi-Blue (tray loader, sans Infrared on the front)... from what I understand, this is considered a Rev. C model. Are these rare? Are they of any value? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
I stumbled across an iMac G3 Bondi-Blue (tray loader, sans Infrared on the front)... from what I understand, this is considered a Rev. C model. Are these rare? Are they of any value? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
Bondi blue is only rev A Not rare at all Value is minimal Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Matthew Gill mgill...@gmail.com wrote: I stumbled across an iMac G3 Bondi-Blue (tray loader, sans Infrared on the front)... from what I understand, this is considered a Rev. C model. Are these rare? Are they of any value? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
According to MacTracker, there was no Bondi Blue @ 266. There was a Grape @ 266, but Bondi's only came in 233, and went only to revision B... unless they had an accelerator card put in a 233 like I did in mine back in '98. On May 1, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Gary Fortman wrote: Bondi blue is only rev A Not rare at all Value is minimal Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Matthew Gill mgill...@gmail.com wrote: I stumbled across an iMac G3 Bondi-Blue (tray loader, sans Infrared on the front)... from what I understand, this is considered a Rev. C model. Are these rare? Are they of any value? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Connecting iMac G3 to WiFi
Don't worry! I've got it working now. It required a Power Management Unit (PMU) reset, though! On 27/02/2012, Paul Brown paul.londo...@gmail.com wrote: The monitor is a VGA LCD monitor by ProView. Unfortunately, I've since bought another monitor and now the Mac won't turn on! I plan to post details in a new thread. On 25 February 2012 04:12, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: Was the monitor a regular PC monitor or some variation of Apple monitor? As for the G4's specs, I believe that would be a Quick Silver 867 MHz. The system will run Leopard but somewhat slowly (I recommend having at least a 1 GHz). As for Logic Pro 9, I don't believe that runs on PowerPC, I think it's Intel only. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Connecting iMac G3 to WiFi
Was the monitor a regular PC monitor or some variation of Apple monitor? As for the G4's specs, I believe that would be a Quick Silver 867 MHz. The system will run Leopard but somewhat slowly (I recommend having at least a 1 GHz). As for Logic Pro 9, I don't believe that runs on PowerPC, I think it's Intel only. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Connecting iMac G3 to WiFi
OK, thanks for this. I've since obtained a Power Mac G4 free of charge from www.freecycle.org though. I've hardly used it so far, due to lack of a monitor, then one night with a monitor I bought without a PSU. Either the PSU or the monitor, or both, have blown out now. The details from About this Mac are OS X V10.3.9, CPU 867Mhz Power PC G4, 2Mb L3 Cache. Memory 1.25Gb SDRAM. Some more info from System Profile is Boot ROM V4.2.3fl. My ambition is to edit some Apple Logic Pro V9 music files which I then work on in a recording studio, or to bring files home from the studio and continue work on them at home. It seems I'll be able to make some Garageband files, then work on them in the studio, but I don't know if I'll ever succeed in continuing to work on the Logic Pro files at home with this setup. At the moment I'm in the studio for 2 hours, once per week. On 22 February 2012 17:30, r_poetic radford.scha...@mms.gov wrote: This note is a month late for your purpose, I expect, but just to add my 2 cents... The Youtube video is on target for you. While the installed OS 9 would give you a Mac introduction of sorts, a better experience would be provided by updating to OS 10.3 at least; adding (inexpensive) RAM to the max is easy and highly desirable. A detail: after installing OS X, you will be able to boot up in either that or the OS 9 which you leave installed as you install OS X over it. However, Mac offers a second way to access your OS 9-based software called classic mode, and for that option I think you would need to ensure that you have version 9.2. On Jan 12, 8:50 am, PaulBX paul.londo...@gmail.com wrote: I've just bought an iMac G3 350Mhz from eBay. I wanted a cheap introduction to the world of the Mac and tt seemed that all other Macs were a lot more expensive. At the moment it's got only 192Mb RAM, a 7Gb hard drive, and a CD-ROM drive. The installed OS is version 9. I know from watching a video on YouTube that I can upgrade it to 1Gb RAM, 128Gb hard drive, DVD-ROM drive and OS X 10.3. At the moment I can't connect to my Virgin Media WiFi network, so I thought I'd ask here for some advice. It seems there are three possible ways. snip -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Connecting iMac G3 to WiFi
This note is a month late for your purpose, I expect, but just to add my 2 cents... The Youtube video is on target for you. While the installed OS 9 would give you a Mac introduction of sorts, a better experience would be provided by updating to OS 10.3 at least; adding (inexpensive) RAM to the max is easy and highly desirable. A detail: after installing OS X, you will be able to boot up in either that or the OS 9 which you leave installed as you install OS X over it. However, Mac offers a second way to access your OS 9-based software called classic mode, and for that option I think you would need to ensure that you have version 9.2. On Jan 12, 8:50 am, PaulBX paul.londo...@gmail.com wrote: I've just bought an iMac G3 350Mhz from eBay. I wanted a cheap introduction to the world of the Mac and tt seemed that all other Macs were a lot more expensive. At the moment it's got only 192Mb RAM, a 7Gb hard drive, and a CD-ROM drive. The installed OS is version 9. I know from watching a video on YouTube that I can upgrade it to 1Gb RAM, 128Gb hard drive, DVD-ROM drive and OS X 10.3. At the moment I can't connect to my Virgin Media WiFi network, so I thought I'd ask here for some advice. It seems there are three possible ways. 1. Connect an Ethernet cable to my Netgear WiFi router 2. Fit an Airport card which may or may not need an adapter or caddy 3. Plug in a USB WiFi adapter available on eBay, which would also require a USB hub, or some other USB adapter, because I'm already using both the USB ports for keyboard and mouse. Unfortunately, I've already done a test with my ZTE 3G USB modem, which comes with Mac installation software stored on it, but this software doesn't run under Mac OS 9 and it doesn't detect the USB modem at all. Any advice would be appreciated. The iMac was delivered with lots of software installed on the hard drive, so I don't want to delete this when I upgrade to OS X. Can you tell me how to avoid deleting it, or perhaps I can install an additional hard drive, while keeping the old hard drive in place. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
What exactly has happened to your iMac sound? I've recently bought one of the same model, as a cheap entry into the World of the Mac, I installed an old version of iTunes, listened to some Internet radio, then a few hours later, one speaker came loose and started vibrating about, followed by the other speaker a few days later. They've basically both blown out. Since then I've got my hands on a Power Mac G4 from www.freecycle.org , though. On 1 February 2012 15:14, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm there and here, fingers crossed, waiting... Doug On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/01/31 09:20, D. Fabel so eloquently wrote: Try the LEM Swap list. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
I'm there and here, fingers crossed, waiting... Doug On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/01/31 09:20, D. Fabel so eloquently wrote: Try the LEM Swap list. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
On 2012/01/31 09:20, D. Fabel so eloquently wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Try the LEM Swap list. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
Media server On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:54 PM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: Alex, Really, what size hard drive to recommend depends upon what you'd like to do with the iMac. For what use is it destined??? Doug Portland, OR On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
I would say go with external hard drives for they will hold more than the internal drive, are cheaper and also will be easier to move if you ever get a new computer. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
On 2011/10/10 11:09, Alex Sciortino so eloquently wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? That depends on what you intend to use your iMac for. If you want to store a few photos and a little bit of music, 40GB might be fine. But if you want to store a lot of pics, music, and/or videos you'll probably want a larger drive. Not knowing which iMac you have, and being of poor memory, it may be subject to a 128GB limit making a 120GB drive your practical maximum unless you want to partition a larger drive. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ..browsing problem
On 2011/10/11 13:07, eric salazar so eloquently wrote: I hace an I mac G3 400mhz , with Mac OSX10.3.9, when I try to browse in safari it does not let me do it properly like email or facebook or even youtube , it says I need to update or upgrade my browser but I have no idea how to work it out...! nedd some advise ...also if anybody knows if i can install ubuntu linux in this mac..!! You may need to update the Flash player plugin, though the most recent one that you can use, probably v9, is outdated. Any G3 is not going to handle Flash video very well, even some G4s struggle with Flash video. Ubuntu does not officially support Power PC anymore, but there are unofficial builds for PPC, though you'll likely need an older build for a G3. Not everything will work though, for instance there is no Flash player build for PPC. There is a Mac section in the Ubuntu forums that is a good source of information about PPC Ubuntu. Also if you find a build that will run on your G3 iMac you might want to try one of the lighter desktops like XFCE, the Gnome KDE desktops are more system intensive. There are also lighter linux builds such as Puppy linux but I don't know if any of them support PPC. This might be a good place to start: http://penguinppc.org/ Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ..browsing problem
At 12:07 PM -0700 10/11/2011, eric salazar wrote: I mac G3 400mhz , with Mac OSX10.3.9 when I try to browse in safari it does not let me do it properly like email or facebook or even youtube , it says I need to update or upgrade my browser but I have no idea how to work it out...! This is an age-old annoyance. Web sites should query the browser to ask it if it supports a specific technology. Instead they just check the overall version of the browser, then tell the user to get lost... Sites such as YouTube require newer versions of Flash or an h.264 codec. Email sites often require better JavaScript or perhaps HTML 5 features. Christopher's suggestion of trying an alternative browser is good. But TenFourFox - a build of the latest Mozilla Firefox that will run on Tiger, won't help you. Instead reach for Classilla - an updated build of WaMCom Mozilla, done by the same guy. http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/ Here are builds of Camino and more Firefox, that will run on Panther: http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html HTH, - Dan. - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
Oooh, Tina reminds me... Again, depending upon which iMac, you may also have partition issues for the OS. The older tray loaders needed the OS within the first 8GB (maybe less) of the hard drive. Doug On Oct 12, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Tina K. wrote: Not knowing which iMac you have, and being of poor memory, it may be subject to a 128GB limit making a 120GB drive your practical maximum unless you want to partition a larger drive. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
If you need more storage space, buy an external drive. I own a graphite G3 iMac with a 40 gig drive that runs just fine, with OS 10.3.9 and 9.2.2. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
If this is your every day Mac, you should definitely upgrade, but installing a new hard drive may not the most cost-effective choice. Hard drives wear out. Most come with only 3-year warranties, and while some last for much longer, I would guess that more than half of the drives manufactured 10 years ago are dead by now. In short, regardless of whether you need more storage space, your hard drive is living on borrowed time. Replace it before you lose everything. (Of course, if you back up to another drive regularly...) You are probably subject to the 128GB limit, so while you CAN install a larger drive, you will only be able to use the first 120 Gb of it. Remember when you go shopping that you need the older PATA/IDE/ATA interface instead of the newer and now more common SATA. Best to check a site like OWC [http://eshop.macsales.com/] who will suggest exact replacements that they guarantee will work for you. Unfortunately, even the cheapest available new drives will probably cost more than a G3 iMac is worth. The best strategy may be to BUY AN EXTERNAL BACKUP DRIVE AND USE IT. Then continue using your iMac until it dies a natural death, give it to the recyclers, buy the cheapest working G3/G4 you can find locally, and restore your backup to it. p.s. You are limited to 128 GB only for an internal drive. You can use any size external drive. On Oct 10, 11:09 am, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Imac G3 ..browsing problem
I hace an I mac G3 400mhz , with Mac OSX10.3.9, when I try to browse in safari it does not let me do it properly like email or facebook or even youtube , it says I need to update or upgrade my browser but I have no idea how to work it out...! nedd some advise ...also if anybody knows if i can install ubuntu linux in this mac..!! Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
Alex, Really, what size hard drive to recommend depends upon what you'd like to do with the iMac. For what use is it destined??? Doug Portland, OR On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ..browsing problem
Try downloading Ten Four Fox, it'll run on that OS (I believe) and also won't have that message. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport (iMac G3) card acting screwy...
I had the same symptoms on my iBook G3/500MHz. The card would seem alright for like 30 seconds and then lose sight of all networks, even if I was rightnext to the router. I made sure all the physical connections were solid, but the problem persisted. I pulled the card and replaced it with an Airport card from my iMac G3/600MHz and it worked perfectly. I took the broken card and stuck it in my iMac just to make sure and the iMac had the same problem. I think the card has just failed, probably due to overheating. Hope That Helps, Matt Gordon On Oct 7, 9:05 am, ZEKE sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past year, due to CRT failures, I have learned how to disassemble and rebuild slot-loading iMac G3's to act as music servers. I started with a personal 500MHz model, when it died I moved to a 600MHz model many months ago, and just had to replace it with a 700Mhz model. (I've used the same RAM, airport card and 40G HD with each as my music is on externals.) Usually, this is a plug-and-play enterprise amd, all told, I'm in about $40. This -- now working -- 700MHz model just will NOT connect to the Internet via the airport card. Well, rather, it will connect for about 20 seconds then stall: being unable to locate a single network. I have ordered a new/used airport card ($10, shipped) but wonder if there is some known 700MHz issue that could be contributing? It's using a long-working HD so software shouldn't be an issue... I can install the working 600MHz board in this CRT chassis but wanted to be sure I'm not missing something? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport (iMac G3) card acting screwy...
On 10/8/11 9:06 AM, Zeke wrote: Is there any secret method to checking/repairing this or do I just crack the case and look? Thanks! Kick spouse out of kitchen, place towel on dining table place iMac face down, open ram door, check antenna (remove ram if in the way), reverse order to return to desk, apologize to spouse or take them out for supper. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport (iMac G3) card acting screwy...
Is there any secret method to checking/repairing this or do I just crack the case and look? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Airport (iMac G3) card acting screwy...
Over the past year, due to CRT failures, I have learned how to disassemble and rebuild slot-loading iMac G3's to act as music servers. I started with a personal 500MHz model, when it died I moved to a 600MHz model many months ago, and just had to replace it with a 700Mhz model. (I've used the same RAM, airport card and 40G HD with each as my music is on externals.) Usually, this is a plug-and-play enterprise amd, all told, I'm in about $40. This -- now working -- 700MHz model just will NOT connect to the Internet via the airport card. Well, rather, it will connect for about 20 seconds then stall: being unable to locate a single network. I have ordered a new/used airport card ($10, shipped) but wonder if there is some known 700MHz issue that could be contributing? It's using a long-working HD so software shouldn't be an issue... I can install the working 600MHz board in this CRT chassis but wanted to be sure I'm not missing something? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport (iMac G3) card acting screwy...
On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:05 AM, ZEKE wrote: Well, rather, it will connect for about 20 seconds then stall: being unable to locate a single network. Perhaps an insufficiently plugged-in antenna or a broken antenna -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
RE: Best TV tuner card for iMac G3 350 MHz Blueberry (8 MB ATI Rage VR)
I have an iMac DV graphite and it is barely fast enough to handle TV. I found the older EyeTV USB units to be the only workable solution for me. I ran OSX 10.4 with the stock software and iTunes and remote control software only and it was kind of pokey. The units tend to burn out for some reason also, I have been through 3 If there is an alternative, it would have to be from the same age/era. I think this e'list is web-searchable, you might want to hit the archives for more info on this, we have discussed this off and on over the last 2-3 years. Good luck! --sc -Original Message- From: Austin Leeds firepowerforfree...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 26 August, 2011 10:34 AM To: iMac Group imaclist@googlegroups.com Subject: Best TV tuner card for iMac G3 350 MHz Blueberry (8 MB ATI Rage VR) Hi all, I was recently given two iMac G3s: a 333 MHz Lime and a 350 MHz Blueberry. Swapped in a new 60 GB hard drive into the Blueberry, and it's working really nicely. Also, it came with an AirPort card already installed. For the price of $0, it's a real gem ^_^ I'm considering using it as a small TV/SNES emulator station, so I'd like to see what TV tuner card (probably USB stick) would be best for it. Any suggestions? Thanks, Austin Leeds -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Best TV tuner card for iMac G3 350 MHz Blueberry (8 MB ATI Rage VR)
Hi all, I was recently given two iMac G3s: a 333 MHz Lime and a 350 MHz Blueberry. Swapped in a new 60 GB hard drive into the Blueberry, and it's working really nicely. Also, it came with an AirPort card already installed. For the price of $0, it's a real gem ^_^ I'm considering using it as a small TV/SNES emulator station, so I'd like to see what TV tuner card (probably USB stick) would be best for it. Any suggestions? Thanks, Austin Leeds -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Best TV tuner card for iMac G3 350 MHz Blueberry (8 MB ATI Rage VR)
Forget about any USB tuners. Your iMacs have only USB 1.1, which does not have the necessary bandwidth for video. Firewire tuners existed, but they were pricey. Formac made one, but recommended it only for 500+ MHz processors. The horsepower of the G3 iMacs really wasn't up to even SD analog video. Digital would be out of the question. On Aug 26, 8:34 am, Austin Leeds firepowerforfree...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was recently given two iMac G3s: a 333 MHz Lime and a 350 MHz Blueberry. Swapped in a new 60 GB hard drive into the Blueberry, and it's working really nicely. Also, it came with an AirPort card already installed. For the price of $0, it's a real gem ^_^ I'm considering using it as a small TV/SNES emulator station, so I'd like to see what TV tuner card (probably USB stick) would be best for it. Any suggestions? Thanks, Austin Leeds -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Greetings, Your loading problem could be that Apple doesn't want OSX loaded onto platforms that hav a processor slower than 876Mhz. When loading the disk a check is done to make sure tha the processor meets or exceeds the min. speed requirements. If your processor doesn't meet these requirements then you'll need to get a copy of XPOSTFACTO at http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/ XPostFacto patches the memory location where the processor speed is stored. Therefor when the OSX disk starts to load it will see a number that meets or exceeds the min. requirement. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca On Aug 16, 5:09 pm, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: LOL... Great responses, but guess I should have been more specific in what I'm looking for. Why do I have 3 ROMs? What do each of them do? What should the latest and greatest version of each be? ROM Version $77D.45F6 Boot ROM version 3.0.F2 Mac OS Rom File version 8.7 Doug Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Sounds like the mac may have a firmware password set. Try removing 1/2 the ram or changing the amount of ram in the slots. Then boot. That should reset the firmware password and allow you to boot from another volume besides the internal hard drive. On Aug 16, 12:57 am, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: Quick question for everyone. I was given a G3 Rev D (tray loader). I have retail discs (CDs) for both OS 10.0 and 10.3. With the 10.0 disc I can change the Start Up disk to point to the CD. With the 10.3 disc, I cannot. Any thoughts on what might be happening here? I've tried installing all the updates, but admit I am new to Mac and a little unclear what is supposed to be happening (or what version I should have). What I've found is the following: ROM Version $77D.45F6 Boot ROM version 3.0.F2 Mac OS Rom File version 8.7 Why is everything called a ROM? I'm confused and would appreciate enlightenment! Thanks, Doug Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Is that a genuine 10.3 disc or a copy? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
The 867 MHz limit is only for Leopard. The other versions require specific stuff like Tiger requires built in Firewire, Panther needs build in USB, etc. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Thanks for the responses. I'll hit all 4 at once... 1 and 4) Your loading problem could be that Apple doesn't want OSX loaded onto platforms that hav a processor slower than 876Mhz... According to Apple, 10.3 is supported for this hardware (iMac Rev D w/ USB). 2) Sounds like the mac may have a firmware password set... Hmmm. The iMac was a gift for my 3 year old. It came a friend who is contract tech support. He pulled it from a clients trash pile. This is definitely worth a try! 3) Is that a genuine 10.3 disc or a copy? Great question, as who knows what's actually on a torrent. However, they're the black retail CDs, original box and all. Your patience is much appreciated in this! We have been PC users for quite some time and the last pre-Intel Mac in this house was the little SE30... Doug Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Greetings. That's very interesting, since I have a G3 Desktop, also known as the Gossamer and the only way that I could get my Retail Mac OS X Panther Version 10.3 (3 Disk C/D) 2Z691-4585-A to load was to first install XPostFacto then everything went well. Below is information retrieved from MacTracker. OVERVIEW Introduced November 1997 (233, 266 MHz) March 1998 (266, 300 MHz) DiscontinuedJanuary 1999 Model Identifier510 Model Number-- Order NumberM6141LL/A (233 MHz), M6202LL/A, M6508LL/A (266 MHz), M6141LL/A (300 MHz) Initial Price $1,999 (M6141LL/A) $2,399 (M6202LL/A) $1,599 (M6508LL/A) $1,999 (M6141LL/A) Support Status Obsolete Weight and Dimensions 22 lbs., 6.3 H x 14.4 W x 16.9 D PROCESSOR Processor PowerPC 750 (G3) Processor Speed 233, 266, or 300 MHz Number of Cores 1 Cache 64 KB L1, 512 KB or 1 MB backside (1:2) L2 System Bus 66 MHz STORAGE AND MEDIA Storage 4 or 6 GB Media 24x CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 1.44 MB floppy, Optional Zip PERIPHERALS Peripherals AppleDesign Keyboard and ADB Mouse II Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca On Aug 19, 7:24 am, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: The 867 MHz limit is only for Leopard. The other versions require specific stuff like Tiger requires built in Firewire, Panther needs build in USB, etc. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
Thanks Bruce. I've tried holding down the 'C' key, but that doesn't work on this particular Mac. Seems to work on every other Mac I own, just not this one... Any other ideas to get the 10.3 CD to boot? And for a rough equivalent, sounds like Boot ROM is similar to a PC's Master Boot Record. ROM Version would be the BIOS. Mac OS ROM file would be other low level routines. Am I close? On Aug 16, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: ...With the 10.0 disc I can change the Start Up disk to point to the CD. With the 10.3 disc, I cannot. Any thoughts on what might be happening here? Don't know...but holding down the 'C' keu while booting should force it to boot from either of them. Boot ROM is what's stored in the boot sector of the disk...ROM Version $77D.45F6 is the stuff stored in the PRAM that contains very low level routines used by the Mac...Mac OS Rom File contains the Mac OS routines that used to be stored in actual chips on the motherboard, the original Mac OS Toolbox -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac G3 Rev D
LOL... Great responses, but guess I should have been more specific in what I'm looking for. Why do I have 3 ROMs? What do each of them do? What should the latest and greatest version of each be? ROM Version $77D.45F6 Boot ROM version 3.0.F2 Mac OS Rom File version 8.7 Doug Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac G3 Rev D
Quick question for everyone. I was given a G3 Rev D (tray loader). I have retail discs (CDs) for both OS 10.0 and 10.3. With the 10.0 disc I can change the Start Up disk to point to the CD. With the 10.3 disc, I cannot. Any thoughts on what might be happening here? I've tried installing all the updates, but admit I am new to Mac and a little unclear what is supposed to be happening (or what version I should have). What I've found is the following: ROM Version $77D.45F6 Boot ROM version 3.0.F2 Mac OS Rom File version 8.7 Why is everything called a ROM? I'm confused and would appreciate enlightenment! Thanks, Doug Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
I'm not sure about the rom part but the ROM part is because the PowerPC macs ran using Open Firmware which was stored on a rom and they were given different numbers depending on the version of the Open Firmware on the rom. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
ROM means read only memory...RAM means random access memory. John On Aug 16, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: I'm not sure about the rom part but the ROM part is because the PowerPC macs ran using Open Firmware which was stored on a rom and they were given different numbers depending on the version of the Open Firmware on the rom. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
D. Fabel wrote: Why is everything called a ROM? Because Quark wanted to put everything in his brother's name to hide it from the Ferengi Commerce Authority? Cheers, Drew -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
RE: iMac G3 Rev D
Besides ROM stands for Read Only Memory. Doug -Original Message- From: imaclist@googlegroups.com [mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Liu Anderson Sent: August 16, 2011 3:57 PM To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iMac G3 Rev D D. Fabel wrote: Why is everything called a ROM? Because Quark wanted to put everything in his brother's name to hide it from the Ferengi Commerce Authority? Cheers, Drew -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 Rev D
On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:57 PM, D. Fabel wrote: Quick question for everyone. I was given a G3 Rev D (tray loader). I have retail discs (CDs) for both OS 10.0 and 10.3. With the 10.0 disc I can change the Start Up disk to point to the CD. With the 10.3 disc, I cannot. Any thoughts on what might be happening here? Don't know...but holding down the 'C' keu while booting should force it to boot from either of them. I've tried installing all the updates, but admit I am new to Mac and a little unclear what is supposed to be happening (or what version I should have). What I've found is the following: ROM Version $77D.45F6 Boot ROM version 3.0.F2 Mac OS Rom File version 8.7 Why is everything called a ROM? I'm confused and would appreciate enlightenment! Three different things, all 'Read-Only Memory' and they're kind of connected. The following is is from very old memory and may be wrong on some of the details but the gist is correct, I believe. Boot ROM is what's stored in the boot sector of the disk. This is the information needed to get the Mac OS from turned off to started up from the hard drive. ROM Version $77D.45F6 is the stuff stored in the PRAM that contains very low level routines used by the Mac. Mostly it runs the very bare hardware level stuff. How the disk talks to the motherboard, etc. (this is the stuff that the drivers in the OS, .kexts in OS X System Extensions in the classic OS talk to, to use the hardware) Mac OS Rom File contains the Mac OS routines that used to be stored in actual chips on the motherboard, the original Mac OS Toolbox; starting with the BW powermacs and the iMac this was stored as a disk file on the HDD instead of the ROM chips in the older systems. That makes it a LOT easier to update. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Looking for iMac G3 Rev.A-B Processors
I'm trying to tempt fate by finding a Sonnet HARMONi G3 600-MHz processor upgrade (PN: HAFW-G3-600) for an iMac G3. Would any of the kind internet folk here happen to know where I could find one laying around? For the record, this is for an iMac G3 Rev-B 233-MHz Blondie Blue, Tray-loading, MacOS 8.6. So any faster processor daughter boards would work, of course. But I sorta have my unrealistic hopes set on that 600- Mhz one :D Any and all comments are welcome -- Thanks in advance! -- mmn // 20110611 Off topic: In case anyone ever wonders: an SLC PATA SSD (plus an adapter) installs beautifully on the original iMac. The trick to cloning the original 4GB disk is to find an old standard master-slave 40-pin IDE cable and plug it into the logic board's HDD. Then set both disks to cable select, boot to a MacOS resource disc, initialize the destination drive, and then copy the entire old HDD onto the destination drive (via dragging and dropping the old-HDD image). Finally, rearrange the folders and 'bless' the new installation via moving 'System' (in the 'System Folder') onto the desktop and back again. Boots in 15sec. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ehternet not working
part of the issue can be what you're willing to spend. for me, I have a g3 400mhz slot loading imac. I put in $40 (OWC/macsales) for ram to bring it to 1G - as documented in several wikis, Apple says this is not supported but sure enough, that RAM will show up under About this Mac. With that amount of ram, you can get your system up to Tiger which immensely widens your options for making the machine useable. For the networking, I use this adapter: http://www.meritline.com/edimax-ew7811un-wireless-ieee802point11bgn-adaptor---p-64568.aspx It is often on special if you wait. I picked it up for $8 with free shipping. The Tiger installer is available for download - note: the adapter comes with *only* a windows install. You have to get the installer yourself: http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=347pl1_id=24pl2_id=84 so for less than $50, you can *probably* make your machine way more functional - at least, that's what I did. On lowendmac, they had a memory vendor that supposedly offered a gig of ram for ~$30. You have to be a little careful because I've read about certain types of ram that will not work in the imac. verify your model with the vendor. Possibly this is way more than you're interested in doing, however, replacing the ethernet card or doing an actual repair could be at least as expensive and you wouldn't get any of the benefits (tiger, wireless, more ram) hope that helps K -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ehternet not working
What's the processor speed? Christopher is right, OS 8 will suck online. Go with the best version of OS 10 you can run on it. Maybe that will fix your ethernet problem as well. I have seen ethernet cards go bad in those machines though... -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Imac G3 ehternet not working
Hello I am new here. im also new to mac computers. I have an old Imac G3 with OS 8.6 on it. my ethernet is not working and I cant get on to the internet. I have looked on line and in books, but they are no help. Dose anyone know how to fix this problem? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ehternet not working
OS 8 on the internet is going to be terrible because of lack of modern web support in the browsers and no flash\java support. I would see how much ram it has and if it has enough run the newest Mac OS is supports and if you can't find any OS X install disks try using something like Xubuntu or Debian on it because both are Linux distributions and both have support for new programs. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
Hey, it worked! I managed to trade logic boards, plug in my HD and RAM, and I have a perfectly serviceable 600 Mhz G3 iMac running OS 10.4.11. The cool part, from my perspective? My HD just booted up, so it's as if nothing changed. I, again, using an external drive of 300G, have the world's biggest iPod! :) Thanks all. Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
I have an ancient 600 Mhz G3 iMac SE -- slot-load -- that I have been using as an iTunes server for quite some time. (It was , also, just fine for light web browsing.) Unfortunately, the CRT/power supply has just gone kaput. For $40, I have been able to purchase a working 500 Mhz iMac but, aside from a working CRT, I think it has a tic less performance across the board. Is the extra speed worth me taking everything apart to create a true Franken G3 or should I just pull the harddrive and 1G of RAM from the first machine, put it all in the slower chassis, and call it good? At BEST I'm going to get a running 600 Mhz G3, with 1G of RAM, running 10.4.11 and iTunes 9.2.1, which would be great with me. If the worst isn't a noticeable difference... Thanks, Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
You would have to swap the whole motherboard to do get the 600MHZ processor in the new unit. It should work, just make sure that the cooling fans line up and are in the same places in both cases. I think it's worth it. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
I have taken G3 iMacs apart before, and it's all a risky business. Some work with each other, some won't even boot. It depends, though. A 500 to 600Mhz board will have a more likely chance of working with it's components than something of a greater processor frequency difference, just as long as the logic board you're trying to replace is the same revision. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Zeke sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ancient 600 Mhz G3 iMac SE -- slot-load -- that I have been using as an iTunes server for quite some time. (It was , also, just fine for light web browsing.) Unfortunately, the CRT/power supply has just gone kaput. For $40, I have been able to purchase a working 500 Mhz iMac but, aside from a working CRT, I think it has a tic less performance across the board. Is the extra speed worth me taking everything apart to create a true Franken G3 or should I just pull the harddrive and 1G of RAM from the first machine, put it all in the slower chassis, and call it good? At BEST I'm going to get a running 600 Mhz G3, with 1G of RAM, running 10.4.11 and iTunes 9.2.1, which would be great with me. If the worst isn't a noticeable difference... Thanks, Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
I know that I was able to swap a 400MHZ board into a 500MHZ case. It's really not that big of a deal, just keep track of your screws. Once you get them both opened up it should be pretty clear if it will work. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
For example, I have tried to install a 700Mhz board on a 500Mhz iMac of a previous revision, but the logic board I installed wouldn't boot for some reason. However, when placed back into the original machine it worked fine. Maybe it has something to do with the ROM or components. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have taken G3 iMacs apart before, and it's all a risky business. Some work with each other, some won't even boot. It depends, though. A 500 to 600Mhz board will have a more likely chance of working with it's components than something of a greater processor frequency difference, just as long as the logic board you're trying to replace is the same revision. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Zeke sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ancient 600 Mhz G3 iMac SE -- slot-load -- that I have been using as an iTunes server for quite some time. (It was , also, just fine for light web browsing.) Unfortunately, the CRT/power supply has just gone kaput. For $40, I have been able to purchase a working 500 Mhz iMac but, aside from a working CRT, I think it has a tic less performance across the board. Is the extra speed worth me taking everything apart to create a true Franken G3 or should I just pull the harddrive and 1G of RAM from the first machine, put it all in the slower chassis, and call it good? At BEST I'm going to get a running 600 Mhz G3, with 1G of RAM, running 10.4.11 and iTunes 9.2.1, which would be great with me. If the worst isn't a noticeable difference... Thanks, Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
Yeah at least Zeke is only trying to move up by 100MHZ. I'd say it's worth a shot. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
On Mar 7, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Zeke wrote: I have an ancient 600 Mhz G3 iMac SE -- slot-load -- that I have been using as an iTunes server for quite some time. (It was , also, just fine for light web browsing.) Unfortunately, the CRT/power supply has just gone kaput. For $40, I have been able to purchase a working 500 Mhz iMac but, aside from a working CRT, I think it has a tic less performance across the board. Is the extra speed worth me taking everything apart to create a true Franken G3 or should I just pull the harddrive and 1G of RAM from the first machine, put it all in the slower chassis, and call it good? At BEST I'm going to get a running 600 Mhz G3, with 1G of RAM, running 10.4.11 and iTunes 9.2.1, which would be great with me. If the worst isn't a noticeable difference... There really isn't a very noticeable performance difference between a 500 and a 600 MHz G3 iMac doing things like e-mail and web browsing. But every little bit helps, of course. What you really want to make sure of, though, if you do try the swap, is that you're swapping an IBM 600 MHz logic board into an IBM 500 MHz chassis. Here's why. There were two different cpu manufacturers for G3 iMac 500 MHz logic boards: IBM and Motorola. The heat sink for the cpu is affixed to the bottom side of the perforated aluminum divider board, directly above the cpu of course. However, because of a difference in not only cpu size but also cpu logic board location, an IBM logic board will not mate properly with a Motorola heat sink, and vice versa. The penalty for a mismatch is a very fried cpu, very quickly, as I learned long ago. IBM was the only cpu used in 600 and 700 MHz G3 iMacs. So what you need to do, since the cpu is on the top side of the board, is remove the 500 MHz logic board and determine if the cpu is an IBM (which it will say right on the chip) or a Motorola, which you'll need 20-15 eyesight to see with your naked eye, or a magnifying glass. The Motorola chip is much smaller than the IBM. The IBM heat sink sits in a little recess in the divider board; the Motorola heat sink is a small rectangle of aluminum screwed/glued to the divider board. If your 500 MHz iMac is also an IBM machine, then the swap will be very easy. Remove the 600 MHz logic board with attached upconverter board and put it into the 500 MHz chassis. You might want to add just a teeny tiny bit of thermal paste on the heat sink to account for the compression of the thin thermal pad and the likely mismatch between the new cpu and its new heat sink. But if there's a mismatch between the 600 board and the 500 heat sink, all is not lost. You can really disassemble the two iMacs and transplant the 600 logic board AND 600 divider board into the 500 chassis. That will require discharging the two CRTs to avoid an unpleasant tingle. (OK guys, here's where you usually hijack this thread and rant on about whether the juice inside a CRT with a modern flyback transformer will kill you or not. Please don't.) I suggest you do some Googling for proper take-apart procedures, or find the appropriate Apple Service Manual, if you're going to disconnect the divider board with PAV attached from the iMac and discharge the CRT in the process. You have been warned. What I've done in situations like yours is to choose the best CRT (no burn-in, crisp focus, no scratches, etc.) AND its PAV (if working) and mate it with the best logic board, hard drive, optical drive and case plastics. I've sometimes had to swap the divider boards around to get an IBM/IBM or Motorola/Motorola match. One other point to consider: Not all 500 MHz G3 iMac logic boards came with 16 MB video chips. I've seen some with the 350-450 MHz 8 MB chips. If memory serves, somewhere along the way during the 500 MHz run Motorola boards switched from 8 MB to 16 MB. IIRC, all IBM G3 iMac logic boards had 16 MB VRAM. There's a big difference between the two if you're running OS X, which needs all the VRAM it can get in a G3 iMac. And one final point: There also were two different PAV boards. One does have a slide switch to select the appropriate CRT manufacturer (LG and CPT, IIRC); the other doesn't and will work with only one CRT brand. I'll bet you thought your idea would be simple to implement, right? Have fun, but do try to get an Apple Service Manual. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
1. The multiple responses are great. 2. Thanks! I'm conducting research via serial number and it appears that both units were made around June 2001, with the slower model actually being a newer revision: 600 Mhz made in Mexico and the 500 Mhz in Korea. As a guess, the Graphite 600 Mhz SE was a Cadillac of its revision and the Snow 500 Mhz was the Pinto of its? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
Lets see if I can make this clear as mud. The bottom of the 600 Mhz iMac SE (G3) says: 600/GR/128/40/CDRW/RUltra/ 56k/FW/VGA/APR with serial number RN1093DVKLB The bottom of the 500 Mhz iMac (G3) says: 500/SN/128/20/CDRW/ULTRA/56k/ VGA with serial number P112513TLFB Good info? Yours, Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 processor swap? 500 up to 600 Mhz...
Those 2 revisions are similar, as long as the 2 have nearly or exactly identical components such as firewire, ability for airport, basically as long as the 2 logic boards look the same, then you're good to go. If you're swapping out on something that one logic board has and the other doesn't, then you might have boot problems and IDE detection problems. It seems to me, however you should be fine. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Zeke sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: Lets see if I can make this clear as mud. The bottom of the 600 Mhz iMac SE (G3) says: 600/GR/128/40/CDRW/RUltra/ 56k/FW/VGA/APR with serial number RN1093DVKLB The bottom of the 500 Mhz iMac (G3) says: 500/SN/128/20/CDRW/ULTRA/56k/ VGA with serial number P112513TLFB Good info? Yours, Zeke -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks
It makes sense. I always burn OS discs as slowly as possible. Baring in mind the age of the macs drives, they are of a time where it was common for many optical drives to have trouble reading burnt discs. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
