Re: [JAWS-Users] opening pdf files on IE webpage

2016-07-21 Thread Shai
Hello Vicki,
If you go into Adobe Reader without a document open and open the
accessibility set up assistant under the edit menu, there is an option
that allows for customizing accessibility for screen readers. One of
the options on step 4 of 4 of this multi-page screen is display
documents in the web browser. If you uncheck this box and then tab to
and press enter on the done button, any document opened will only
display in Adobe reader where it can be viewed if accessible or saved.
I hope that helps


On 7/18/16, Vicki  wrote:
> Is there a way to stop a pdf file from opening on the webpage, but rather
> downloading instead?
>
> I am using Jaws 14 and 17 with IE 11 and the latest version of Adobe.
>
> I have tried entering on the links, using the spacebar, right clicking,
> using Jaws key and also the context menu, but they all open rather than save
> the file. There is usually no option to save the file once it is opened as
> well.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Vicki
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening pdf files on IE webpage

2016-07-21 Thread Stephen Bennett
Hello

another way is to find your PDF in the Links List, Insert F7. Then tab to
the button called "Move to link" and press it. Then press Context Key and
see if there's an item called Save Target As in the list of options. 

All the Best

Stephen


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Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:08 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening pdf files on IE webpage

Is there a way to stop a pdf file from opening on the webpage, but rather
downloading instead?

I am using Jaws 14 and 17 with IE 11 and the latest version of Adobe.

I have tried entering on the links, using the spacebar, right clicking,
using Jaws key and also the context menu, but they all open rather than save
the file. There is usually no option to save the file once it is opened as
well.

Thank you.

Vicki

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Shai
Hi Wayne,
Are you working on this document on a desktop or laptop? Does this
behavior happen in other places besides word? If this document is
being composed on a desktop computer and a mouse is connected, I would
try removing the mouse temporarily to see if this behavior subsides or
place it in a position where it will not be touched.
If this document is being composed on a laptop one item which comes to
mind is that perhaps you are inadvertently touching the touch pad?
This is usally down near the bottom of the keyboard and will cause the
position of the cursor to move. Most laptops have an option that
allows for the touch pad to be disabled.
I hope this helps


On 7/20/16, wayne smith  wrote:
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is about
> 250
> pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes it appears in
> the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am working on.  This
> happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am using JAWS 15.  Any
> thoughts would be welcome.
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
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[JAWS-Users] saving pictures with jaws

2016-07-21 Thread Tom
I have family members send me pictures of things their families do, and the 
only way I can send them to other friends, is to forward them, so would like to 
know how to save a photo. jaws 17, win 7 
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[JAWS-Users] Win10 Mail App, Ways To Make It More Accessible, From TopTechTidbits

2016-07-21 Thread Mike B.
6) This discussion offers ways to make the Win10 Mail App more accessible, 
and includes links to a tutorial to make Mail, People and Calendar more 
accessible with JAWS and NVDA:


https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/thread/uwa_bulletin_mail_app_can/2196671?p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2196671



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[JAWS-Users] ListTbl Script & Users Guide, From TopTechTidbits

2016-07-21 Thread Mike B.
3) Doug Lee has written clever JAWS scripts to use standard table navigation 
keystrokes in list view controls:


http://www.dlee.org/listtbl/


ListTbl Users Guide
Doug Lee
Last Revised January, 2014

This short document explains how to use the ListTbl scripts for navigating 
ListView controls with JAWS in any application.

This document is laid out for easy navigation using JAWS HTML heading 
navigation commands: H will move through all headings, 2 through major 
sections,
and 3 and 4through any subsections or subsubsections.

Table of Contents
list of 5 items
. What Is ListTbl?
. Script Installation Instructions
. Commands and Features
. Usage Examples
. History and Notes From the Author
list end

What Is ListTbl?

These scripts make standard HTML table navigation commands (Ctrl+Alt with 
arrows, Home, End, etc.) apply to ListView controls, such as can be found in
Windows Explorer. This facilitates scanning down columns other than column 1 
without having to type numerous or difficult key sequences. There are also
a few added commands for clicking cells and column headers without having to 
use the JAWS cursor. In JAWS 13 and later, the Table Layer commands also 
work
on supported controls.

Script Installation Instructions

To install these scripts on a new system:

list of 3 items
1. Install JAWS if this has not already been done.  This will require 
administrative privileges on the PC.
2. Run JAWS as the user for whom the scripts are to be installed. This and 
the following steps must be performed for each user of the PC who will be 
using
JAWS with these scripts.
3. Run the script installer and follow its instructions. By default, this 
installer will install the scripts into all available JAWS versions and 
languages
on the computer. You may unselect specific version/language combinations 
during installation if necessary.
list end

Commands and Features

The primary feature of these scripts is to make the standard JAWS table 
navigation commands work in ListView controls. This works in all supported 
JAWS
keyboard layouts and uses the same keystrokes in each as appear in HTML 
environments. In JAWS 13 and later, the Table Layer commands also work on 
supported
controls.

In addition to the standard table navigation commands though, these scripts 
add a few commands for left-clicking and right-clicking "cells" and column
headers in ListViews. These added commands work only in ListView controls 
and do not carry over to HTML environments. The following table lists the 
available
functions with the commands for each supported keyboard layout:
Summary: Added ListView Support Commands

table with 6 columns and 5 rows
Function
Common/Desktop Layout
Laptop and Classic Laptop Layouts
Kinesis Layout
Table Layer
Description
Left-click cell
Ctrl+Alt+NumPad /
Ctrl+Alt+8
Ctrl+Alt+I
NumPad /
Left-clicks the current cell in the ListView.
Right-click cell
Ctrl+Alt+NumPad *
Ctrl+Alt+9
Ctrl+Alt+O
NumPad *
Right-clicks the current cell in the ListView.
Left-click header
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+NumPad /
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+8
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+I
Shift+NumPad /
Left-clicks the column header above the current cell in the ListView.
Right-click cell
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+NumPad *
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+9
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O
Shift+NumPad *
Right-clicks the column header above the current cell in the ListView.
table end

Note: Though standard JAWS Table Layer commands do not exit the Table Layer, 
the above Table Layer commands will do so. This is because clicking cells
and headers usually causes new or reorganized screens to appear, whereas the 
standard JAWS Table Layer commands simply navigate among cells. As a side
effect, it will be necessary to use commands outside of the Table Layer in 
order to double-click cells.

Usage Examples

In the following examples, the Common/Desktop layout is assumed. For other 
layouts or the Table Layer, substitute appropriate keystrokes as necessary.

Summary: ListTbl usage examples

table with 2 columns and 5 rows
Task
Action(s)
Read each cell in the current ListView row with its header.
Use Ctrl+Alt+Right to move one cell at a time to the right across the row, 
Ctrl+Alt+Left to move left, and Ctrl+Alt+NumPad 5 to announce the current 
cell with header and position information.. The normal JAWS ListView 
commands for reading cells (JAWSKey+Ctrl+1-9/0) also work here but do not 
provide a means for examining more than the first ten columns of a wide 
list.
Find the largest file in a Windows Explorer file list
Either use Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right to move to the Size column and then scan 
through sizes manually with Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down, or
list of 3 items
. Find the Size column using Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right.
. Left-click the Size column header twice with Ctrl+Shift+Alt+NumPad /, once 
to sort the list by ascending size, and once to reverse the sort and place 
the largest file at the top of the list.
. Use any desired means to move to the top row, a good one being 
Ctrl+Alt+Home to move to column 1 of the top row.
list end

Find out 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Address Book VS. Contacts List In Outlook 2016?

2016-07-21 Thread Tom Behler
Mike:

This is good to know.

For whatever reason, I have always found the address book, accessed via
control shift B., to be easier to navigate and work with than the contacts
list, accessed by control 3.  I've found this even in earlier versions of
Outlook, such as Outlook 2007 and Outlook 2010.

Not sure why this is the case, but hopefully, it's just a matter of personal
preference and what works best for a given individual.

I'd be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Address Book VS. Contacts List In Outlook 2016?

Hi

Although I can't speak about Outlook 2016, in earlier versions of Outlook,
such as 2010, the Outlook address book and the Contacts folder are the same
list of email addresses.  Other than how you navigate between the addresses
between the 2 renditions of the addresses, I not aware of any major
differences in how you manage the addresses.  


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 02:02
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Address Book VS. Contacts List In Outlook 2016?

Hello, everyone.

 

Does anyone know the difference between the address book, and the contacts
list features of Outlook 2016?

 

I currently have my most-used Outlook contacts in the address book, accessed
via control shift B.

 

Some have suggested to me that these contacts should be in the contacts
list, which is accessed via control 3.

 

Are there advantages and/or disadvantages of each list?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Martin Blackwell
I don't know the cause, but I know one cause for this behavior. I've seen it
many times. It happens on laptops when the touchpad has not been disabled.
It's very easy to brush against the touchpad with the palm of your hand when
typing. That makes the cursor jump around. The user has no idea this is
happening. Let me be clear, I don't think this is the only cause of this
behavior, but it is definitely one cause. I've seen it more times than I can
count.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

And if you talk to FS, they will swear they have never in their lives seen
that behavior.

On 7/21/16, Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)  wrote:
> Hmmm, I've had this happen even in Notepad.
>
>
> Courtney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
>
> Wayne,
>
> I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are 
> talking about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. 
> I've had the same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then 
> when I go back to proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions 
> of my text in a completely different paragraph or line from where I
intended.
>
> I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this 
> occurs making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on
the list.
> I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on 
> my Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't
know.
> Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?
>
> If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your 
> experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to 
> FS or whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 
>
> Kimberly
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPad
>
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
>> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
>> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
>> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I 
>> am using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OE & Turning Off Auto Compacting Folders

2016-07-21 Thread Mario
Mike, sorry for the late post. but anyway... if you email Rafaial 
requesting if the keys can be reset, meaning you can use them over, and 
explain why, he'd probably agree to do it. He did it for me when I 
messed up, losing a key when I first installed OE.



 Original Message 
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69ma...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, Jul 19, 2016 11:29 PM EST
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OE & Turning Off Auto Compacting Folders

Hi Steve,

Only after I updated to the latest version, V2.1.1, today.  This update came
out May 20, 2016, but if you update to it, it will cost you a key code! So,
if you don't have an extra key code don't bother, & I'm not going to update
our other computers because the updates in this version aren't worth
updating for!  I only did it to see how the new version worked, & a mistake
it was, at least for me.  Someone more knowledgeable than my self might get
some benefits out of the updated version, but not us.  Here's the updates
for this 2.1.1 version:

Last Updates:
**
v.2.1.1 -19-5-16
More reliable installer
Work offline feature (using right click on
Tray icon)
Fixed eset issue (hang on users that have eset and "email intergration"
enabled)
Some other minor fixes

v.2.1 -23-11-15
Fixed installation problems
Fixed runtime errors
Send-To for Windows 8 and 10
Simple Mapi mail now available (Send emails through other programs) for
Windows 7, 8 and 10.
Fixed Help menu
Faster and easy installation

Take care.
Mike
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From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE & Turning Off Auto Compacting Folders


Hmmm, are you getting that message Mike?  I haven't in at least a year with
OE and Win 7.

You can go into the registry and reset the count:
Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{..what ever your idenity
is.}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. And look for the key
CompactCheckCount. The default is supposed to be 100, but you can change
that.

Also, check out these instructions on how to disable compacting in OE:


1. Do the Run command.

2. In the new window, type regedit and press OK

3. The registry editor opens

You need to make sure that you've  scrolled to the top of this list and left
clicked once on My Computer so
it is highlighted.

Now click Edit and choose Find.

4.  Type Compact Check Count and click Find Next.

The compact check count will increase by 1 every time you close Outlook
Express, by default, when it gets to 100 it will ask you to compact.

5.  The number within the registry is based upon hexadecimal, and 100 in
hexadecimal is 64.  It will take a few moments for the computer to find,
when it  appears double left click the mouse on Compact Check Count


6.  Then enter 0 as the value data and press OK


7.  To finish, click File and Exit.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: "Jaws-Users List" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OE & Turning Off Auto Compacting Folders


Hi All,

Running Winblows 7, Outlook Express, & Jaws 16.  Where do turn off the
auto
folder compacting thingy message that you get every 100 times you close
OE?
I do it manually & would like to turn this dialogue off so I don't get it
anymore.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Transferring music to an iPhone using iTunes, windows 10 and Jaws 17

2016-07-21 Thread Cher Bosch
The easiest way may be to create a playlist for your iPhone on the PC using
iTunes. Then after connecting your phone, you can select your phone, then
music and select the playlist you created. After this, you will only need to
make additions or deletions to the playlist in iTunes on the PC. Then every
time you sync your phone, the changes will be made for you automatically.

Cher


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Behalf Of John Albarran
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Transferring music to an iPhone using iTunes, windows
10 and Jaws 17

Hello group,

 

Does any of you have written instructions  on how to transfer music from a
pC to an iPhone using iTunes. I am using windows 10 and jaws 17.   I have
looked at the Freedom Scientific and I have not found a good method.

 

Any suggestions are appreciated. .

 

 

Thank you,

 

Yours truly,

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Kimber Gardner
And if you talk to FS, they will swear they have never in their lives
seen that behavior.

On 7/21/16, Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)  wrote:
> Hmmm, I've had this happen even in Notepad.
>
>
> Courtney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
>
> Wayne,
>
> I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking
> about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the
> same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to
> proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a
> completely different paragraph or line from where I intended.
>
> I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs
> making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
> I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my
> Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
> Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?
>
> If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your
> experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or
> whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 
>
> Kimberly
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPad
>
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is
>> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes
>> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am
>> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am
>> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Address Book VS. Contacts List In Outlook 2016?

2016-07-21 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

Although I can't speak about Outlook 2016, in earlier versions of Outlook,
such as 2010, the Outlook address book and the Contacts folder are the same
list of email addresses.  Other than how you navigate between the addresses
between the 2 renditions of the addresses, I not aware of any major
differences in how you manage the addresses.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 02:02
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Address Book VS. Contacts List In Outlook 2016?

Hello, everyone.

 

Does anyone know the difference between the address book, and the contacts
list features of Outlook 2016?

 

I currently have my most-used Outlook contacts in the address book, accessed
via control shift B.

 

Some have suggested to me that these contacts should be in the contacts
list, which is accessed via control 3.

 

Are there advantages and/or disadvantages of each list?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internetconnection

2016-07-21 Thread Kimsan
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/
 under utilities, item 96.
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@outlook.com

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Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my
internetconnection

is this on the windows + B page?

-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my
internetconnection

Wifi strength can do this.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@outlook.com

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Behalf Of Al Sorrentino
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internet connection

Hi Everyone,



I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 and Word 2010.  I am using the Windows key and the
letter B to see if I am connected to the internet.  Is there another JAWS
command to tell me how many bars I have on my screens display, or the
strength of my internet connection?



  Right now, I have been having some problems with my internet provider and
I would like to report back to them when I loose connection.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated.



Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internetconnection

2016-07-21 Thread Tom

is this on the windows + B page?

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my 
internetconnection


Wifi strength can do this.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@outlook.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Al Sorrentino
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internet connection

Hi Everyone,



I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 and Word 2010.  I am using the Windows key and the
letter B to see if I am connected to the internet.  Is there another JAWS
command to tell me how many bars I have on my screens display, or the
strength of my internet connection?



 Right now, I have been having some problems with my internet provider and
I would like to report back to them when I loose connection.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated.



Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internet connection

2016-07-21 Thread Kimsan
Wifi strength can do this.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@outlook.com

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Behalf Of Al Sorrentino
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internet connection

Hi Everyone,

 

I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 and Word 2010.  I am using the Windows key and the
letter B to see if I am connected to the internet.  Is there another JAWS
command to tell me how many bars I have on my screens display, or the
strength of my internet connection?

 

  Right now, I have been having some problems with my internet provider and
I would like to report back to them when I loose connection.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated. 

 

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Adrian Spratt
Agreed, the paste method makes all the difference. I was just posing one 
example of how inserting text from another source can cause JAWS to read 
erratically. 

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Of Jason White
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Does it matter which Paste method you use? If you type Shift-F10 from within 
your document and read the context menu, you'll find a list of paste options.

You can paste the text alone without formatting, merge the formatting with what 
is in the current document, preserve the original formatting, etc.

Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> The times I most often encounter this problem are when I've copied text from 
> other sources into a document. Word inserts code that I can't always isolate 
> and identify. For example, I may have what looks like a two-return break, but 
> when I delete what I assume is one of the return characters, it remains a 
> two-line break. Sometimes I figure out that the culprit is the character 
> called a vertical tab. I wish I could search for that character and replace 
> it, but I haven't worked out how to, despite having done some online 
> research. 
> 
> In any event, once an errant code enters a document, it can cause JAWS to 
> behave unpredictably. I'm in the habit now of checking each time I start 
> inserting text into the middle of a document.
> 
> Sometimes I refresh the screen with JAWS key+escape. I'm not sure if that 
> solves the problem, but I do think the action causes JAWS to pause and take a 
> breather. JAWS does have a tendency to get hyperactive.
> 
> JAWS 17, Win7, no braille display.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Just a few days ago I had this happen as I was writing a short document in 
> Note Pad. I'm running Jaws 16.0.4468 on a Win 7 PC, no braille display. 
> I don't recall if I tried this, but perhaps unloading and reloading Jaws 
> might help?
> 
> Thanks,
> Norma
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking 
> about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the 
> same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to 
> proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a completely 
> different paragraph or line from where I intended. 
> 
> I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs 
> making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
> I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my 
> Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
> Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?
> 
> If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your 
> experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to 
> FS or whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 
> 
> Kimberly
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPad
> 
> > On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
> > 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> > about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text 
> > sometimes it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the 
> > one I am working on.  This happens often but it seems to be 
> > inconsistent.  I am using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wayne
> > 
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> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Can JAWS read the strength of my internet connection

2016-07-21 Thread Al Sorrentino
Hi Everyone,

 

I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 and Word 2010.  I am using the Windows key and the
letter B to see if I am connected to the internet.  Is there another JAWS
command to tell me how many bars I have on my screens display, or the
strength of my internet connection?

 

  Right now, I have been having some problems with my internet provider and
I would like to report back to them when I loose connection.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated. 

 

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox

2016-07-21 Thread Adrian Spratt
Kelby, the instructions I posted do not give you unformatted text. They allow 
you to replicate the source from which you're copying. 

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Of kelby carlson
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox

I don't want to paste unformatted text. i don't know how much clearer I can 
state this, but I want to copy over text from Firefox, paste it into a document 
and have the text retain its original format from the webpage. Neither of the 
options in the JAWS quick settings dialogue will allow me to do this; and 
before anyone asks, I have tested both on a number of different websites. Now 
if doing what I'm trying is only possible in IE, someone should just say that 
so I can stop wasting more time on this.

On 7/21/16, Kimsan  wrote:
> I'm so sorry, no it's the same. I typed "p" by accident each time.
> I'm using 2016.
>
> CTRL alt v as in victor, not p as in Paul to the original inquiry...
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Kimsan,
>
> In MS Word 2010 that command is control-alt-v. Is it different in Word 
> 2016, which I think you use?
>
> Kelby, I'm sorry my post was so short, but I was rushing. This ought 
> to work for you. As Kimsan explained, go into JAWS quick settings with 
> JAWS key+v and locate "virtual cursor options," which you did.
>
> Now, arrow down to "Select and copy..." It seems your setting is the 
> default, "from virtual cursor."
>
> tab once to land in an explanation of this setting and what your 
> options are. You may need to switch to the JAWS cursor to read this 
> text. Then return to the PC cursor and shift-tab back into the choice field.
>
> In JAWS quick settings, you rotate through the options by pressing the 
> spacebar. In this case, there are only two: virtual cursor or "full 
> content using screen highlight." It's this latter setting that you want.
>
> At this point, you can simply save the setting by pressing escape, as 
> I just confirmed.
>
> I think you'll find this setting is a very mixed blessing. For most 
> purposes, I've gone back to the virtual cursor option. But only 
> experience will show you which works best and in which situations.
>
> I've found Kimsan's alternative solution, control-alt-p or 
> control-alt-v, works best for me. It doesn't involve going in and out 
> of JAWS quick settings and finding the "copy and select" option every time.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Did you try exiting and returning to ff and performing the pasting 
> action again?
>
> You can also press CTRL alt p if pasting into word where you can 
> select the option to paste as unformatted text.
> I just tried both suggestions and all was well.
> I hope you get it working.
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:21 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> That didn't accomplish anything.
>
> On 7/20/16, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
>> So press spacebar on that setting to change it. Then the okay button.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>>
>> Yes, that is how it is set.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/16, Kimsan  wrote:
>>> As it pertains to preserving the format, under the virtual curser 
>>> option in the quick settings do you have it set to select and copy 
>>> full content using on screen highlight??
>>>
>>>
>>> Kimsan Song
>>> kimsans...@outlook.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:40 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> This is actually the opposite of what I'm trying to do. i am trying 
>>> to retain formatting when I copy from Firefox, but as of now JAWS 
>>> will not do this when in Firefox but will in IE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/20/16, David Moore 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox

2016-07-21 Thread Kimsan
With all do respect, everyone is simply trying to assist and the CTRL alt v
also allows you to coppy formatted text as is, unformatted text and html.
Since you are pasting from the web, and want to preserve the formatting, I
would select that option, the html option to see if that'll meet your
expectation.

If unsuccessful, I'd say just do it using IE since IE works in this case,
and not ff.

If firefox is not working for you and you are more successful completing
this task, why stick to using ie for this task.
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@outlook.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox

I don't want to paste unformatted text. i don't know how much clearer I can
state this, but I want to copy over text from Firefox, paste it into a
document and have the text retain its original format from the webpage.
Neither of the options in the JAWS quick settings dialogue will allow me to
do this; and before anyone asks, I have tested both on a number of different
websites. Now if doing what I'm trying is only possible in IE, someone
should just say that so I can stop wasting more time on this.

On 7/21/16, Kimsan  wrote:
> I'm so sorry, no it's the same. I typed "p" by accident each time.
> I'm using 2016.
>
> CTRL alt v as in victor, not p as in Paul to the original inquiry...
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Kimsan,
>
> In MS Word 2010 that command is control-alt-v. Is it different in Word 
> 2016, which I think you use?
>
> Kelby, I'm sorry my post was so short, but I was rushing. This ought 
> to work for you. As Kimsan explained, go into JAWS quick settings with 
> JAWS key+v and locate "virtual cursor options," which you did.
>
> Now, arrow down to "Select and copy..." It seems your setting is the 
> default, "from virtual cursor."
>
> tab once to land in an explanation of this setting and what your 
> options are. You may need to switch to the JAWS cursor to read this 
> text. Then return to the PC cursor and shift-tab back into the choice
field.
>
> In JAWS quick settings, you rotate through the options by pressing the 
> spacebar. In this case, there are only two: virtual cursor or "full 
> content using screen highlight." It's this latter setting that you want.
>
> At this point, you can simply save the setting by pressing escape, as 
> I just confirmed.
>
> I think you'll find this setting is a very mixed blessing. For most 
> purposes, I've gone back to the virtual cursor option. But only 
> experience will show you which works best and in which situations.
>
> I've found Kimsan's alternative solution, control-alt-p or 
> control-alt-v, works best for me. It doesn't involve going in and out 
> of JAWS quick settings and finding the "copy and select" option every
time.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Did you try exiting and returning to ff and performing the pasting 
> action again?
>
> You can also press CTRL alt p if pasting into word where you can 
> select the option to paste as unformatted text.
> I just tried both suggestions and all was well.
> I hope you get it working.
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:21 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> That didn't accomplish anything.
>
> On 7/20/16, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
>> So press spacebar on that setting to change it. Then the okay button.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>>
>> Yes, that is how it is set.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/16, Kimsan  wrote:
>>> As it pertains to preserving the format, under the virtual curser 
>>> option in the quick settings do you have it set to select and copy 
>>> full content using on screen highlight??
>>>
>>>
>>> Kimsan Song
>>> kimsans...@outlook.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson

[JAWS-Users] Strange MS Word Reading Issue

2016-07-21 Thread kelby carlson
All,

I have used Kurzweil 1000 to OCR a PDF document and make it an RTF
file. I am reading that RTF file in MS Word. For some reason, JAAWS
will read the word at the end of a line combined with the word at the
beginning of the next line. The two words will sound like one word.
So, just as an example, if the words "of" and "the" are separated by a
line break, then JAWS will read the word as "ofthe". This seems to be
a problem with only RTF files of this kind, but I'm not sure what's
causing it. Unfortunately I do need these documents to be in RTF, as
otherwise for whatever reason the footnotes will not be properly
converted.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread wayne smith
Thanks for the idea but it happens when I am in a Word doc and typing as
usual.

Wayne

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

The times I most often encounter this problem are when I've copied text from
other sources into a document. Word inserts code that I can't always isolate
and identify. For example, I may have what looks like a two-return break,
but when I delete what I assume is one of the return characters, it remains
a two-line break. Sometimes I figure out that the culprit is the character
called a vertical tab. I wish I could search for that character and replace
it, but I haven't worked out how to, despite having done some online
research. 

In any event, once an errant code enters a document, it can cause JAWS to
behave unpredictably. I'm in the habit now of checking each time I start
inserting text into the middle of a document.

Sometimes I refresh the screen with JAWS key+escape. I'm not sure if that
solves the problem, but I do think the action causes JAWS to pause and take
a breather. JAWS does have a tendency to get hyperactive.

JAWS 17, Win7, no braille display.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Hi there,

Just a few days ago I had this happen as I was writing a short document in
Note Pad. I'm running Jaws 16.0.4468 on a Win 7 PC, no braille display. 
I don't recall if I tried this, but perhaps unloading and reloading Jaws
might help?

Thanks,
Norma


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Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the
same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to
proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a
completely different paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs
making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my
Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your
experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or
whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
> 
wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread wayne smith
No, I am using a keyboard.  Glad to hear that I am not having a split
personality.  The random nature of the issue is the toughest part in trying
to identify the problem.

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the
same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to
proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a
completely different paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs
making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my
Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your
experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or
whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)
Hmmm, I've had this happen even in Notepad.


Courtney

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking 
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the same 
thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to proof what 
I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a completely different 
paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs making 
it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list. I had a 
half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my Braille 
display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know. Are you 
using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your experience. 
Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or whatever the 
heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith  
> wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox

2016-07-21 Thread kelby carlson
I don't want to paste unformatted text. i don't know how much clearer
I can state this, but I want to copy over text from Firefox, paste it
into a document and have the text retain its original format from the
webpage. Neither of the options in the JAWS quick settings dialogue
will allow me to do this; and before anyone asks, I have tested both
on a number of different websites. Now if doing what I'm trying is
only possible in IE, someone should just say that so I can stop
wasting more time on this.

On 7/21/16, Kimsan  wrote:
> I'm so sorry, no it's the same. I typed "p" by accident each time.
> I'm using 2016.
>
> CTRL alt v as in victor, not p as in Paul to the original inquiry...
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Kimsan,
>
> In MS Word 2010 that command is control-alt-v. Is it different in Word
> 2016,
> which I think you use?
>
> Kelby, I'm sorry my post was so short, but I was rushing. This ought to
> work
> for you. As Kimsan explained, go into JAWS quick settings with JAWS key+v
> and locate "virtual cursor options," which you did.
>
> Now, arrow down to "Select and copy..." It seems your setting is the
> default, "from virtual cursor."
>
> tab once to land in an explanation of this setting and what your options
> are. You may need to switch to the JAWS cursor to read this text. Then
> return to the PC cursor and shift-tab back into the choice field.
>
> In JAWS quick settings, you rotate through the options by pressing the
> spacebar. In this case, there are only two: virtual cursor or "full content
> using screen highlight." It's this latter setting that you want.
>
> At this point, you can simply save the setting by pressing escape, as I
> just
> confirmed.
>
> I think you'll find this setting is a very mixed blessing. For most
> purposes, I've gone back to the virtual cursor option. But only experience
> will show you which works best and in which situations.
>
> I've found Kimsan's alternative solution, control-alt-p or control-alt-v,
> works best for me. It doesn't involve going in and out of JAWS quick
> settings and finding the "copy and select" option every time.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> Did you try exiting and returning to ff and performing the pasting action
> again?
>
> You can also press CTRL alt p if pasting into word where you can select the
> option to paste as unformatted text.
> I just tried both suggestions and all was well.
> I hope you get it working.
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@outlook.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:21 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>
> That didn't accomplish anything.
>
> On 7/20/16, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
>> So press spacebar on that setting to change it. Then the okay button.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>>
>> Yes, that is how it is set.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/16, Kimsan  wrote:
>>> As it pertains to preserving the format, under the virtual curser
>>> option in the quick settings do you have it set to select and copy
>>> full content using on screen highlight??
>>>
>>>
>>> Kimsan Song
>>> kimsans...@outlook.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:40 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Text in Firefox
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> This is actually the opposite of what I'm trying to do. i am trying
>>> to retain formatting when I copy from Firefox, but as of now JAWS
>>> will not do this when in Firefox but will in IE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/20/16, David Moore  wrote:
 Hi,
 A resounding yes! You can do that in Firefox just as much as within
 IE. I wanted to tell everyone that I am using the portable version
 of the latest version of Firefox, running from my flash drive, and
 it works just as well as the installed version of Firefox for what I
 do at least. I was able to play YouTube videos with it and everything.
 Nothing is on 

Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Jason White
Does it matter which Paste method you use? If you type Shift-F10 from within
your document and read the context menu, you'll find a list of paste options.

You can paste the text alone without formatting, merge the formatting with
what is in the current document, preserve the original formatting, etc.

Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> The times I most often encounter this problem are when I've copied text from 
> other sources into a document. Word inserts code that I can't always isolate 
> and identify. For example, I may have what looks like a two-return break, but 
> when I delete what I assume is one of the return characters, it remains a 
> two-line break. Sometimes I figure out that the culprit is the character 
> called a vertical tab. I wish I could search for that character and replace 
> it, but I haven't worked out how to, despite having done some online 
> research. 
> 
> In any event, once an errant code enters a document, it can cause JAWS to 
> behave unpredictably. I'm in the habit now of checking each time I start 
> inserting text into the middle of a document.
> 
> Sometimes I refresh the screen with JAWS key+escape. I'm not sure if that 
> solves the problem, but I do think the action causes JAWS to pause and take a 
> breather. JAWS does have a tendency to get hyperactive.
> 
> JAWS 17, Win7, no braille display.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Just a few days ago I had this happen as I was writing a short document in 
> Note Pad. I'm running Jaws 16.0.4468 on a Win 7 PC, no braille display. 
> I don't recall if I tried this, but perhaps unloading and reloading Jaws 
> might help?
> 
> Thanks,
> Norma
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking 
> about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the 
> same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to 
> proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a completely 
> different paragraph or line from where I intended. 
> 
> I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs 
> making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
> I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my 
> Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
> Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?
> 
> If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your 
> experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or 
> whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 
> 
> Kimberly
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPad
> 
> > On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
> > 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> > about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> > it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> > working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> > using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wayne
> > 
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> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Adrian Spratt
The times I most often encounter this problem are when I've copied text from 
other sources into a document. Word inserts code that I can't always isolate 
and identify. For example, I may have what looks like a two-return break, but 
when I delete what I assume is one of the return characters, it remains a 
two-line break. Sometimes I figure out that the culprit is the character called 
a vertical tab. I wish I could search for that character and replace it, but I 
haven't worked out how to, despite having done some online research. 

In any event, once an errant code enters a document, it can cause JAWS to 
behave unpredictably. I'm in the habit now of checking each time I start 
inserting text into the middle of a document.

Sometimes I refresh the screen with JAWS key+escape. I'm not sure if that 
solves the problem, but I do think the action causes JAWS to pause and take a 
breather. JAWS does have a tendency to get hyperactive.

JAWS 17, Win7, no braille display.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Hi there,

Just a few days ago I had this happen as I was writing a short document in Note 
Pad. I'm running Jaws 16.0.4468 on a Win 7 PC, no braille display. 
I don't recall if I tried this, but perhaps unloading and reloading Jaws might 
help?

Thanks,
Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking 
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the same 
thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to proof what 
I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a completely different 
paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs making 
it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my 
Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your experience. 
Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or whatever the 
heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
> 
wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread The Iowa Gal
Hi there,

Just a few days ago I had this happen as I was writing a short document in
Note Pad. I'm running Jaws 16.0.4468 on a Win 7 PC, no braille display. 
I don't recall if I tried this, but perhaps unloading and reloading Jaws
might help?

Thanks,
Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the
same thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to
proof what I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a
completely different paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs
making it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list.
I had a half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my
Braille display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know.
Are you using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your
experience. Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or
whatever the heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith 
wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is 
> about 250 pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes 
> it appears in the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am 
> working on.  This happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am 
> using JAWS 15.  Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word text moving on its own

2016-07-21 Thread Kimber Gardner
Wayne,

I'm afraid this is not very helpful, but I know exactly what you are talking 
about because it has happened to me too and not just in Word. I've had the same 
thing happen in Outlook. I'll be typing along then when I go back to proof what 
I've written, I sometimes find portions of my text in a completely different 
paragraph or line from where I intended. 

I haven't been able to figure out any pattern regarding when this occurs making 
it sort of random which is why I have never mentioned it on the list. I had a 
half-baked theory that I was inadvertently hitting some key on my Braille 
display that was causing the cursor to jump, but I just don't know. Are you 
using a Braille display when this text jumping happens to you?

If anyone else has seen this behavior, I'd like to hear about your experience. 
Maybe we can figure out what's going on and report it to FS or whatever the 
heck they're calling themselves these days. 

Kimberly

Sent from Kimber's iPad

> On Jul 20, 2016, at 4:54 PM, wayne smith  
> wrote:
> 
> I need some of you big brains!  I have an MS Word 2007 doc that is about 250
> pages long.  At some points when I write the text sometimes it appears in
> the middle of a different paragraph from the one I am working on.  This
> happens often but it seems to be inconsistent.  I am using JAWS 15.  Any
> thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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