Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I am having the same issues. The problem most often occurs in Excel and in Outlook. I am using Windows7 and MS-Office 2010. I've run a repair on Office with no change in the crashing problem. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of DGH Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jaws crashes on me 2 or 3 times a day but I have never needed to do a hard shut down. I can just wait, which may be 2 or 3 minutes and Jaws will start up again. I do notice that Jaws appears in the sys tray more than once after it restarts. Using Jaws 18, Windows 7 and MS Office 2013. I also notice that Jaws shuts down most often whenever I am using an MS Office product. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi, Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again. Robin -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am cur
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Has your job received any automatic updates for Windows from Microsoft lately? I've noticed since a recent Windows 10 March update that JAWS 18 no longer reads the message body for the default Mail app in the Virtual Viewer window. You have to switch to Caret browsing for it to somewhat work now. Also after the most recent cumulative Microsoft Windows 10 update JAWS v18 crashes a lot when I use Internet Explorer v11 to browse the web. Believe we're voicing our anger at the wrong people. FS is doing the best they can to keep up. It's hard when MS just does massive changes to their own OS without warning, and these changes break JAWS a lot of the time. At 08:47 AM 3/31/2017, you wrote: Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Jaws has crashed for me in similar fashion off and one since 18 came out in August and only way some times to make things work right is to push the button on the computer. That said, I also had similar problems occasionally but not as often in 16 and 17. Windows 7 and 10. Usually I have Outlook 2010 open along with other apps such as IE sometimes have not reopened outlook when this happens. No pattern to it that I can detect, just assumed it was virus scanner one I can't read well with any Jaws cursors but which I removed once and had horrible problems including a useless computer. Now I just try to ignore it. In truth had this happen in all versions of Jaws from 3.0 forward on occasion, but not nearly as often as over the past few months. I can cope with once every few months as opposed to once a day in some cases lately. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jim: I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash. Thanks for sharing! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-use
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Thanks, Mauricio, and, yes, I agree, it's always good to have backups! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mauricio Molina Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 8:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, Another way to shut down or restart your computer when JAWS crashes is by pressing Windows Key+X, followed by the letter U. At this point, pressing the letter R will restart the computer and pressing the letter U will shut your computer down. I am not saying it is a better way, just another way, and it is always good to have a backup. Mauricio -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jim: I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash. Thanks for sharing! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
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Hi, Speaking strictly for myself during the most recent two crippling shutdowns this method failed as something in the jfw hang caused me to not be able to impact the cursor by using keyboard commands thus even if I got into the shutdown menu I could not by any means known to man machine or beast move the cursor off of shutdown nor could I invoke the shutdown that supposedly had focus. It is a sad sorry state of affairs when it afflicts one and I never saw it before the most recent build of jfw 18. Robin -Original Message- From: Mauricio Molina Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, Another way to shut down or restart your computer when JAWS crashes is by pressing Windows Key+X, followed by the letter U. At this point, pressing the letter R will restart the computer and pressing the letter U will shut your computer down. I am not saying it is a better way, just another way, and it is always good to have a backup. Mauricio -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jim: I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash. Thanks for sharing! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.co
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Hi, Gracious me waiting two to three minutes if it crashes multiple times in a day adds up and sure takes a bite out of one's productivity. I do wish someone at VFO could get to the root cause of this please and thank you. Robin -Original Message- From: DGH Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jaws crashes on me 2 or 3 times a day but I have never needed to do a hard shut down. I can just wait, which may be 2 or 3 minutes and Jaws will start up again. I do notice that Jaws appears in the sys tray more than once after it restarts. Using Jaws 18, Windows 7 and MS Office 2013. I also notice that Jaws shuts down most often whenever I am using an MS Office product. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi, Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again. Robin -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and wind
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Tom, Another way to shut down or restart your computer when JAWS crashes is by pressing Windows Key+X, followed by the letter U. At this point, pressing the letter R will restart the computer and pressing the letter U will shut your computer down. I am not saying it is a better way, just another way, and it is always good to have a backup. Mauricio -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Jim: I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash. Thanks for sharing! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Jim: I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash. Thanks for sharing! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Jaws crashes on me 2 or 3 times a day but I have never needed to do a hard shut down. I can just wait, which may be 2 or 3 minutes and Jaws will start up again. I do notice that Jaws appears in the sys tray more than once after it restarts. Using Jaws 18, Windows 7 and MS Office 2013. I also notice that Jaws shuts down most often whenever I am using an MS Office product. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi, Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again. Robin -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-use
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If nothing else works (and you're on Windows 10), type Windows+x, U, R, which will reboot the system. Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I > said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still > couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection > successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 > second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. > I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you > seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail > then? > Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. > Thanks bunches again. > Robin > > > -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche > Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. > Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to > shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what > I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. > Smiles. > > > Your humble pinhead! > Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Robin Frost > Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > Hi Tom and all, > I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in > the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when > it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further > even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech > navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you > can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It > is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so > loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it > about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is > really not nice at all. > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Behler > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > Thanks, Miriam. > > At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. > > Tom Behler > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Miriam Vieni > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit > windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the > problem and are working on it. > > Miriam > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Tom Behler > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my > Windows 7 laptop. > > It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word > document. > > Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does > the Windows run command. > > Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is > to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. > > Definitely not good. > > Dr. tom Behler from Michigan > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Adam Ferguson > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM > To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > Hi all. > > Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing > unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to > happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. > > Thanks, > > Adam. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions abou
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Yes, I know it has worked for me many times. Let me know if it works for you. Good luck. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi, Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again. Robin -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.co
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Hi, Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again. Robin -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles. Your humble pinhead! Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Hi Tom and all, I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all. Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I think the problem has existed since JAWS 16, and they are finally now realizing they have a problem? Well, better late than never, I suppose. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvi...@optonline.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 10:18 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
For the record, I'm running the latest release of JAWS 18 on my Win7 machine without an uptick in crashes. The JAWS key+Win key+F4 command to restart JAWS might be helping. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pursley Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 3:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing JAWS stops occasionally on me, too - using latest build of J17/Win7. For this reason, I keep J16 live so can have speech. I had a sense that J18 was not quite up to par for Win7 machines so I've held off until I see an update which fixes the issue you mention. I have little patience at work with technology not functioning, so I'm super careful not to get the latest thing. Just my way of doing things. On 3/31/2017 3:32 PM, Tom Behler wrote: > Thanks, Miriam. > > At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. > > Tom Behler > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit > windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about > the problem and are working on it. > > Miriam > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Tom Behler > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 > on my Windows 7 laptop. > > It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft > Word document. > > Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor > does the Windows run command. > > Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws > back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. > > Definitely not good. > > Dr. tom Behler from Michigan > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM > To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing > > Hi all. > > Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing > unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing > this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. > > Thanks, > > Adam. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > -- James C. Pursley Chief Investment Officer Gaia Capital Management Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality companies, we seek long term client account growth For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
JAWS stops occasionally on me, too - using latest build of J17/Win7. For this reason, I keep J16 live so can have speech. I had a sense that J18 was not quite up to par for Win7 machines so I've held off until I see an update which fixes the issue you mention. I have little patience at work with technology not functioning, so I'm super careful not to get the latest thing. Just my way of doing things. On 3/31/2017 3:32 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- James C. Pursley Chief Investment Officer Gaia Capital Management Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality companies, we seek long term client account growth For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
This is why I'm back to JAWS 17. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 3/31/2017 1:32 PM, Tom Behler wrote: Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Thanks, Miriam. At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone. Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Hi John, Look in the Jaws help menu. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: "John Vernaleken`" <jfv...@optonline.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Where would I look to find this Key combination or others that I forgot or never knew? Thanks John -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, have you tried JAWS key+Windows-key+F4, which closes JAWS but brings it back again? Much more effective than JAWS key+F4 without the Windows key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I think the problem is that when Jaws crashes like this, the key strokes don't work, or at least not consistently. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, have you tried JAWS key+Windows-key+F4, which closes JAWS but brings it back again? Much more effective than JAWS key+F4 without the Windows key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Where would I look to find this Key combination or others that I forgot or never knew? Thanks John -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, have you tried JAWS key+Windows-key+F4, which closes JAWS but brings it back again? Much more effective than JAWS key+F4 without the Windows key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
No, I have not tried this, Adrian. Will definitely do so if the problem occurs again. The Jaws crashing problem here occurs very unpredictably, but now, I at least have another tool in my toolbox to deal with it. Thanks! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Tom, have you tried JAWS key+Windows-key+F4, which closes JAWS but brings it back again? Much more effective than JAWS key+F4 without the Windows key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Tom, have you tried JAWS key+Windows-key+F4, which closes JAWS but brings it back again? Much more effective than JAWS key+F4 without the Windows key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop. It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document. Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command. Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot. Definitely not good. Dr. tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM To: jaws-users-listSubject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Hi all. Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10. Thanks, Adam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I have the same configuration, and as I said, JAWS 17 doesn't behave in the same manner as JAWS 18, which crashes Internet Explorer when entering on a link in Facebook from within a Thunderbird message. Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama On 10/21/2016 9:36 AM, Kenny wrote: I'm running Windows 10 Home Edition 64. On my PC, if IE 11 crashes, JAWS v18 does too. It's like they're sharing the same DLL files or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem with IE 11 crashing. I have gone through my settings many times but I can't find a solution to the crashing of IE 11. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer, when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen with JAWS 17. I'm using the mobile Facebook site. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I'm running Windows 10 Home Edition 64. On my PC, if IE 11 crashes, JAWS v18 does too. It's like they're sharing the same DLL files or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem with IE 11 crashing. I have gone through my settings many times but I can't find a solution to the crashing of IE 11. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer, when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen with JAWS 17. I'm using the mobile Facebook site. -- Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I never have problems with jaws crashing but I have a continuous problem with IE 11 crashing. I have gone through my settings many times but I can't find a solution to the crashing of IE 11. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer, when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen with JAWS 17. I'm using the mobile Facebook site. -- Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
I also notice that too. When clicking on the button to display all comments and so forth, both Internet Explorer 11 and JAWS 18 B3 crash! Very annoying. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer, when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen with JAWS 17. I'm using the mobile Facebook site. -- Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing
Please report it via the JAWS 18 beta report form. I don't use Facebook, so I can't try it (at least, not without creating a Facebook account, which isn't on the plan). Maria Campbellwrote: > Unfortunately, I find my JAWS 18 crashing, as well as Internet Explorer, > when entering on a Facebook link from within a message. This doesn't happen > with JAWS 17. I'm using the mobile Facebook site. > > > > -- > > Maria Campbell > luc...@gmail.com > > Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. > Without them, humanity cannot survive. > --Dalai Lama > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing when using internet explorer
I like to have lots of different articles open so I can have up to 30 tabs open but IE can crash when there's less than 5 tabs open. I have 4gb of RAM. I'm experimenting with v16 and it still crashes at times though I've not had long to test it out yet. David For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing when using internet explorer
How many tabs do you have open at any given time? It could be for lack of memory. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of DH Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing when using internet explorer Hi, JAWS and IE11 both crash a lot when I am using IE especially when I have lots of tabs open at the same time. Is JAWS making IE crash more? I get multiple crashes throguhout the day. Sometimes I can restart IE and carry on what I'm doing, but other times JAWS crashes as well and I can't get it to restart without restarting the PC. My computer fan also starts wirring at a higher speed when this happens. David For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing when using internet explorer
Are you using 16? Windows Update recently sent us an incremental upgrade on IE 10, and it's as glitchy as all get out. The JAWS cursor is finicky on our major Internet apps, and I had three IE crashes yesterday. I am proud to report that JAWS stayed up through all three (something that hasn't happened in a long time. It crashed unilaterally twice, but recovered both times with no intervention from me. Understand that we here have what I lovingly call the software setup from Hell, so if 16 can stand up to what we dish out, it's good. Ted -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of DH Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing when using internet explorer Hi, JAWS and IE11 both crash a lot when I am using IE especially when I have lots of tabs open at the same time. Is JAWS making IE crash more? I get multiple crashes throguhout the day. Sometimes I can restart IE and carry on what I'm doing, but other times JAWS crashes as well and I can't get it to restart without restarting the PC. My computer fan also starts wirring at a higher speed when this happens. David For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Crashing
I find using insert with windows key then Ault f4 that will close jaws then type in jaws and the version you are using helps. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Dawson Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Crashing Hi everyone I am having trouble with JAWS crashing all the time. Apparently a JAWS file comes up on the screen saying that JAWS has stopped working and it can go online to find a solution. Any advice to solve this would be gratefully received. Regards Jenny Jennifer dawson Phone: 08 94961024 Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
It happeneds from time to time. Maybe we should start a patition to get fs to produce the quality for the money we are paying. Eric Carrillo http://elizasblog2.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
Is there any error message when it crashes? You could check the event log in control panel for a clue. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: 04 December 2012 12:09 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 I do have all the updates here. On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote: Try making sure that you have all the latest updates and servicepacks, this made a huge difference on my system. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: 04 December 2012 05:26 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ** ** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere ** ** For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
I have Outlook 2010 on a Netbook and it never crashes. I use Jaws 12. Angela from Italy -- Credo nelle idee che diventano azioni. (Ezra Pound). -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Su MisterCupido.com puoi creare REGALI PERSONALIZZATI. Stampa le tue Foto su: Cuscini, Tazze, Puzzle, Peluche, Magliette, Poster... Consegne in tutta Italia in soli 2-3 giorni Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12385d=4-12 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
I do have all the updates here. On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote: Try making sure that you have all the latest updates and servicepacks, this made a huge difference on my system. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: 04 December 2012 05:26 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
You are not alone, because of this same issue, I've reinstalled Jaws 13 for reading my mails. Hope FS will fix it in the next update. Godwin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
funny thing is, i had this same problem with 13 as well. On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote: You are not alone, because of this same issue, I've reinstalled Jaws 13 for reading my mails. Hope FS will fix it in the next update. Godwin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
I use outlook 2010 and I have had no issues with it. I am running on XP. Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: December 3, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
I do not think it has anything to do with amount of RAM. I think that it has to do with some aspect of the interaction between JAWS and Outlook. For me, it doesn't happen often, and the occurrence seems to be random, when opening up a message. I am not sure if the size of the message, or the client that was used to send the message has anything to do with it. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 That should be more than enough. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: 04 December 2012 06:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
That should be more than enough. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: 04 December 2012 06:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 It's only 4 gb of ram. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010
Try making sure that you have all the latest updates and servicepacks, this made a huge difference on my system. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john melia Sent: 04 December 2012 05:26 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Yes I have had this problem how much memory do you have I have 16 gigs of ram I have 2 computers the one with only 6 gigs of ram does not do it. Also it will stop with explorer as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Geovanni Bahena Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws crashing with outlook 2010 Hello everyone, I hope I'm not the only one with this issue. If not, I hope that some of you report it also. FS Tech support tells me that they can't reproduce it and will not escalate it. At random times, outlook 2010 will stop responding. When this happends, jaws stops speeking and will not allow me to do anything. The only way to get things working again, I have to kill jaws using the dump command and reload. Sometimes, I even have to restart the system to get it Jaws working right. Has anyone had this issue? Thanks, Geovanni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/