[jQuery] Re: Don't use onclick

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

The simple fact that you don't have javascript floating all over your
doc inside elements is alone a reason that unobtrusive rocks.  Let
alone many other reasons.

On Oct 12, 10:44 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
>
> functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
> using a library
>
> obviously we're past that point.  We've decided this was a good use
> for jQuery.  So how can you say priorities are tangled here when you
> assume we're overthinking this because we're using a library.  It
> sounds as though you're a bit anti-new, stay hard core javascript type
> of dude.  If you're using javascript to make an entire application
> fine, but I'm in with the new and new to me makes sense.  Unobtrusive
> is not overrated, it's good practice and it's a pattern as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> On Oct 12, 10:35 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > unobtrusive in this case is keeping javascript out of elements.
> > onclick= binds them together.
>
> > On Oct 12, 9:39 pm, RobG  wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 13, 10:49 am, CoffeeAddict  wrote:
>
> > > > Am I wrong to say you should never use onclick in an element as this 
> > > > would be
> > > > contrary to the purpose of using jQuery
>
> > > I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
> > > functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
> > > using a library, then use it. If the library driving your design
> > > decisions, you might need to rethink using the library.
>
> > > > which means onclick would totally
> > > > bind mark-up to javascript?
>
> > > In a way that using a CSS selector to attach handlers doesn't?
>
> > > >  So it would not be unobtrusive in that case.
>
> > > The concept of "unobtrusive" javascript (i.e. attaching listeners at
> > > the client, rather than the server) is an implementation methodology
> > > that has been much hyped but probaby creates as many issues as it
> > > solves.
>
> > > --
> > > Rob


[jQuery] Re: Don't use onclick

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

>>>I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
using a library

obviously we're past that point.  We've decided this was a good use
for jQuery.  So how can you say priorities are tangled here when you
assume we're overthinking this because we're using a library.  It
sounds as though you're a bit anti-new, stay hard core javascript type
of dude.  If you're using javascript to make an entire application
fine, but I'm in with the new and new to me makes sense.  Unobtrusive
is not overrated, it's good practice and it's a pattern as far as I'm
concerned.

On Oct 12, 10:35 pm, expresso  wrote:
> unobtrusive in this case is keeping javascript out of elements.
> onclick= binds them together.
>
> On Oct 12, 9:39 pm, RobG  wrote:
>
> > On Oct 13, 10:49 am, CoffeeAddict  wrote:
>
> > > Am I wrong to say you should never use onclick in an element as this 
> > > would be
> > > contrary to the purpose of using jQuery
>
> > I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
> > functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
> > using a library, then use it. If the library driving your design
> > decisions, you might need to rethink using the library.
>
> > > which means onclick would totally
> > > bind mark-up to javascript?
>
> > In a way that using a CSS selector to attach handlers doesn't?
>
> > >  So it would not be unobtrusive in that case.
>
> > The concept of "unobtrusive" javascript (i.e. attaching listeners at
> > the client, rather than the server) is an implementation methodology
> > that has been much hyped but probaby creates as many issues as it
> > solves.
>
> > --
> > Rob


[jQuery] Re: Don't use onclick

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

unobtrusive in this case is keeping javascript out of elements.
onclick= binds them together.

On Oct 12, 9:39 pm, RobG  wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:49 am, CoffeeAddict  wrote:
>
> > Am I wrong to say you should never use onclick in an element as this would 
> > be
> > contrary to the purpose of using jQuery
>
> I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
> functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
> using a library, then use it. If the library driving your design
> decisions, you might need to rethink using the library.
>
> > which means onclick would totally
> > bind mark-up to javascript?
>
> In a way that using a CSS selector to attach handlers doesn't?
>
> >  So it would not be unobtrusive in that case.
>
> The concept of "unobtrusive" javascript (i.e. attaching listeners at
> the client, rather than the server) is an implementation methodology
> that has been much hyped but probaby creates as many issues as it
> solves.
>
> --
> Rob


[jQuery] Re: Don't use onclick

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

I don't think it's too hyped.  Having calls to javascript in your
elements defeats the purpose of unobtrusively maintaining and using
libraries like jQuery.  How can you stay that Rob??

On Oct 12, 9:39 pm, RobG  wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:49 am, CoffeeAddict  wrote:
>
> > Am I wrong to say you should never use onclick in an element as this would 
> > be
> > contrary to the purpose of using jQuery
>
> I think you have your design priorites backward. Firstly determine the
> functionality required, then how to best implement it. If that means
> using a library, then use it. If the library driving your design
> decisions, you might need to rethink using the library.
>
> > which means onclick would totally
> > bind mark-up to javascript?
>
> In a way that using a CSS selector to attach handlers doesn't?
>
> >  So it would not be unobtrusive in that case.
>
> The concept of "unobtrusive" javascript (i.e. attaching listeners at
> the client, rather than the server) is an implementation methodology
> that has been much hyped but probaby creates as many issues as it
> solves.
>
> --
> Rob


[jQuery] Re: Call function in load

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

yea, forgot about removing the ().  Thanks.

On Oct 12, 9:49 pm, James  wrote:
> $(".someImage").load(doSomething);
>
> On Oct 12, 4:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Did I do this right?  I can't test right now but I think this should
> > work:
>
> > function doSomething()
> >         {
> >                 ...
> >         }
>
> >  (".someImage").load(doSomething()) ;
>
> > I want to fire off doSomething() when the image is fully loaded.


[jQuery] Call function in load

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

Did I do this right?  I can't test right now but I think this should
work:

function doSomething()
{
...
}

 (".someImage").load(doSomething()) ;

I want to fire off doSomething() when the image is fully loaded.


[jQuery] Standards

2009-10-12 Thread expresso

Am I wrong to say you should never use onclick in an element as this
would be contrary to the purpose of using jQuery which means onclick
would totally bind mark-up to javascript?  So it would not be
unobtrusive in that case.

And can't you do this another way other than this:
document.getElementById("productImage");

And what about this, isn't the point of jQuery is to use Load?

$(document).ready(function()
{
prodImage = document.getElementById("productImage");
prodImage.onload = extraLargeLoad;
});


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Easier said than done to write a control like this from scratch.

On Jul 8, 4:49 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
> I'd love to see what the author thinks of your comments ;)
>
> From what I can see, you'd be much better off writing your own
> carousel from scratch, and learning the basics as you go with it.
>
> On Jul 8, 1:05 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Now you tell me how the f* I'm supposed to understand how to
> > manipulate this crap.  So I figured I can just disable it with CSS
> > straight up.
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:05 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >         buttons: function(n, p) {
> > >             if (n == undefined || n == null) {
> > >                 var n = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
> > > ((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'first') ||
> > > this.options.size == null);
> > >                 //if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
> > > this.options.wrap == 'first') && this.options.size != null &&
> > > this.last >= this.options.size)
> > >                 //    n = this.tail != null && !this.inTail;
> > >             }
>
> > >             if (p == undefined || p == null) {
> > >                 var p = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
> > > ((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'last') || this.first >
> > > 1);
> > >                 if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
> > > this.options.wrap == 'last') && this.options.size != null &&
> > > this.first == 1)
> > >                     p = this.tail != null && this.inTail;
> > >             }
>
> > >             var self = this;
> > >             n = true;
> > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > >             }
>
> > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
> > >                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
> > >             }
> > >         },
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:03 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > If you look at the JCarousel .js, here's the logic
>
> > > >         buttonNextHTML: '',
> > > > 
> > > >         this.buttonNext = $('.jcarousel-next', this.container);
>
> > > >         if (this.buttonNext.size() == 0 &&
> > > > this.options.buttonNextHTML != null)
> > > >             this.buttonNext = this.clip.before
> > > > (this.options.buttonNextHTML).prev();
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="width:
> > > > > > > 600px; height: 220px;">
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
>
> > > > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

It's too bad we didn't kick your ass in soccer the past couple weeks
ago.  Now I wish we really had!

Brazil is overrated in soccer.

On Jul 9, 4:40 pm, expresso  wrote:
> This is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about and I am cocky?
> unreal.
>
> On Jul 9, 4:37 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Has nothing to do with me not being good enough and you have no idea
> > on the scope of my project.  I can't believe you actually replied like
> > that and honestly coming here to tell me you're serious.  But to state
> > something like that and to butt in like this is unbelievable.  Do you
> > do this to people at work?  They'd probably kick your ass for saying
> > something like that.
>
> > On Jul 9, 4:27 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > > It's not meant to be derogatory, no. I've said that many times, it's a
> > > fact isn't it? Sorry if it came out as rude. I could name dozens of
> > > better programmers than I am, and I'm not pissed off by that!
>
> > > On Jul 9, 6:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
>
> > > > do this for you :]
>
> > > > can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> > > > me.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > > > > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> > > > > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > > > > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > > > > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > > > > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> > > > > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > > > > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > > > > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> > > > > do this for you :]
>
> > > > > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > > > > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > > > > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > > > > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been 
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > > > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > > > > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > > > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > > > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to 
> > > > > > > accomplish
> > > > > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with 
> > > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate 
> > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > > > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > > > > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... 
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it 
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > on their own...
>
> > > > > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > > > > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you 
> > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not 
> > > > > > > > know
&g

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

This is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about and I am cocky?
unreal.

On Jul 9, 4:37 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Has nothing to do with me not being good enough and you have no idea
> on the scope of my project.  I can't believe you actually replied like
> that and honestly coming here to tell me you're serious.  But to state
> something like that and to butt in like this is unbelievable.  Do you
> do this to people at work?  They'd probably kick your ass for saying
> something like that.
>
> On Jul 9, 4:27 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > It's not meant to be derogatory, no. I've said that many times, it's a
> > fact isn't it? Sorry if it came out as rude. I could name dozens of
> > better programmers than I am, and I'm not pissed off by that!
>
> > On Jul 9, 6:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
>
> > > do this for you :]
>
> > > can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> > > me.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > > > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> > > > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > > > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > > > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > > > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> > > > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > > > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > > > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> > > > do this for you :]
>
> > > > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > > > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > > > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > > > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
> > > > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > > > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> > > > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> > > > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> > > > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > > > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> > > > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it 
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > on their own...
>
> > > > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > > > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > > > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > > > > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are 
> > > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > > > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes mo

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Has nothing to do with me not being good enough and you have no idea
on the scope of my project.  I can't believe you actually replied like
that and honestly coming here to tell me you're serious.  But to state
something like that and to butt in like this is unbelievable.  Do you
do this to people at work?  They'd probably kick your ass for saying
something like that.

On Jul 9, 4:27 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
> It's not meant to be derogatory, no. I've said that many times, it's a
> fact isn't it? Sorry if it came out as rude. I could name dozens of
> better programmers than I am, and I'm not pissed off by that!
>
> On Jul 9, 6:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
>
> > do this for you :]
>
> > can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> > me.
>
> > On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> > > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> > > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> > > do this for you :]
>
> > > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
> > > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> > > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> > > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> > > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> > > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it are
> > > > > on their own...
>
> > > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > > .
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > > > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are 
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > > > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a 
> > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > app

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Ricardo, I have a feeling some put you up to this to piss me off
again :)  Nice work.

On Jul 9, 4:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
>
> do this for you :]
>
> can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> me.
>
> On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> > do this for you :]
>
> > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
> > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it are
> > > > on their own...
>
> > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
> > > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a 
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > > > > > > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > > > > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some 
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  
> > > > > > > Yea,
> > > > > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > > > > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different 
> > > > > > > questions on
> > > > > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > > &

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Ricardo, I have a feeling some put you up to this to piss me off
again :)  Nice work.

On Jul 9, 4:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
>
> do this for you :]
>
> can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> me.
>
> On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
>
> > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> > do this for you :]
>
> > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
> > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it are
> > > > on their own...
>
> > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
> > > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a 
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > > > > > > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > > > > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some 
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  
> > > > > > > Yea,
> > > > > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > > > > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different 
> > > > > > > questions on
> > > > > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > > &

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
do this for you :]

can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
me.

On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
> "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of help,
> why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you have
> an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience to
> do this for you :]
>
> And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
> > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
> > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
> > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> > > since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it are
> > > on their own...
>
> > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> > > point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > .
>
> > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
> > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> > > > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > > > > > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > > > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> > > > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  
> > > > > > Yea,
> > > > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > > > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > > > > > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I 
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > > > > > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you 
> > > > > > > either
> > > > > > > 

[jQuery] Re: jQuery on IE

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Also, do you really have  in there like you are showing?  Or
do you actually have <script type="text/javascript"> ?

On Jul 9, 2:52 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does this work instead?  Just curious
>
> jQuery(document).ready(function(){
>
> On Jul 9, 2:45 pm, Paulo Henrique <paulode...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello people...
> > I've been working with jQuery for some time now, but mostly on Firefox. But
> > i was finishing an old project, and needed javascript, so I decided to use
> > jQuery on it too.
> > It worked perfectly on Firefox, but on IE it ain't working.
> > The code is as it follows:
>
> > <script>
> > $(document).ready(function(){
> >                              var nome = "";
> >                              var pos = "";
> >                              var html = document.createElement("div");
> >                              $(html).attr("id", "submenu");
> >                             .
> >                             });
> > 
>
> > But the IE complains about the $ before (document), saying that an object is
> > expected (object expected at line X character 1).
>
> > Anyone out there could know what might be the reason?
> > Waiting for your help, and thanks in advance for your time.
>
> > Att.
> > Paulo Henrique Vieira Neves
> > Bsc. Sistemas de Informação
> > +55 38 9141 5400
> > MSN: paulode...@live.com
> > GTALK: paulode...@gmail.com
> > SKYPE: paulodemoc


[jQuery] Re: jQuery on IE

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Does this work instead?  Just curious

jQuery(document).ready(function(){

On Jul 9, 2:45 pm, Paulo Henrique  wrote:
> Hello people...
> I've been working with jQuery for some time now, but mostly on Firefox. But
> i was finishing an old project, and needed javascript, so I decided to use
> jQuery on it too.
> It worked perfectly on Firefox, but on IE it ain't working.
> The code is as it follows:
>
> 
> $(document).ready(function(){
>                              var nome = "";
>                              var pos = "";
>                              var html = document.createElement("div");
>                              $(html).attr("id", "submenu");
>                             .
>                             });
> 
>
> But the IE complains about the $ before (document), saying that an object is
> expected (object expected at line X character 1).
>
> Anyone out there could know what might be the reason?
> Waiting for your help, and thanks in advance for your time.
>
> Att.
> Paulo Henrique Vieira Neves
> Bsc. Sistemas de Informação
> +55 38 9141 5400
> MSN: paulode...@live.com
> GTALK: paulode...@gmail.com
> SKYPE: paulodemoc


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and I'll
try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have been up
till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not afford
to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
much to far into it for our solution.

I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's lame.

On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to accomplish
> is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing with it,
> maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate code
> with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.
> and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and has
> since moved on..  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... it's
> an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing it are
> on their own...
>
> whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to this
> point    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> .
>
> On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
> > is "simple"
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > > > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > > > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > > > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > > > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > > > > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > > > > little.
>
> > > > > Chill
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the 
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > > > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > > > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question 
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > > > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > > > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > > > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > > > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to mak

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

As requested I'm done.  I hope that Charlie re-evaluates his
assumptions (that people have not tried things out, that what they are
doing overall is simple, yada yada) before he posts things.

As for the future yea, I'll try to consolidate.  I try to give as much
information as possible as to what I tried but I'll try to consolidate
those replies into less posts.

thanks for your help Morning and Charlie.

On Jul 9, 2:39 pm, Matt Zagrabelny  wrote:
> expresso,
>
> Please stop going on and on and on (ad infinitum). (I am trying to be
> polite)
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 12:33 -0700, expresso wrote:
> > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
> > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
> > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
> > is "simple"
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > > > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > > > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > > > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > > > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > > > > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > > > > little.
>
> > > > > Chill
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the 
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the 
> > > > > > clutter
> > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > > > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > > > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question 
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > > > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > > > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > > > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > > > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your 
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my 
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the 
> > 

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And you may
find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not know
about the entire implementation and you assume that what we are doing
is "simple"

On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> situation and things tried.
>
> On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > > little.
>
> > > Chill
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by 
> > > > > > > index
> > > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

While I certainly have gotten all pissed off in this thread now...I
think both sides need to re-evaluate.

On your side, you need to both stop with your little hints of "you're
an idiot" in your responses.  Key words like these from developers who
think they are above others is what I'm talking about:

"Of Course"
"Why would you do that"
"Obviously"

key words like this are unneccessary when you are trying to help out a
fellow.  So please, this is not a one way highway here for bashing
today.

On Jul 9, 2:24 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
>
> from the JCarousel plug-in
>
> Because previous to that, you were pretty cocky about the way you said
> that disabled is not part of a   Read the post.
>
> YOu have to take that response above in context. I was in no way
> trying to be cocky, just making a point that hey, it's in there so I
> don't get why then.
>
> On Jul 9, 2:22 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, I have said thanks in a lot of my posts.
>
> > Second, I am customizing this control way beyond what most people
> > have.  And yes, it's pretty frustrating to say the least when you
> > create a plugin and then disappear after 2 years.  While it's open
> > source, still.  When you email the creator nicely asking him if he's
> > still contributing and you get no response, and then the forums the
> > pages for that Carousel are abandoned, one's got to wonder wtf.
>
> > My tone?  Look at the kind of responses I get from people like you.
> > Stuff like "Of Course that won't work".  Your tone is just as cocky as
> > you think mine is.
>
> > >>>a number of the last posts directed back to you have been trying to give 
> > >>>you a clue that everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts
>
> > I don't see how they are frantic, just separated out. And I don't see
> > all the people here who are getting fed up.
>
> > I want you and Morning to know that some of the responses are
> > definitely passive aggressive on your side to even start with.  Do you
> > need examples?
>
> > I'm not here to argue.  I'll do my best to consolidate my replies.
> > And understand that people are human, sure I'm frustrated with the
> > fact that the author is no longer to be found.  Don't take someone's
> > frustration to the point of saying I'm being negative when I was not
> > THAT negative.  What a way to blow this entire thing out of the water.
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Charlie  wrote:
>
> > > you sir are a complete ingrate! 
> > > You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a simple 
> > > carousel. I don't think you understand the tone of a number of the last 
> > > posts directed back to you have been trying to give you a clue that 
> > > everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts, condemning 
> > > someone's code ( on a plugin that 100's of people have used I might add), 
> > > not reading replies with solutions..and to top it off this post makes 
> > > it sound like others with busy lives are just sitting around waiting to 
> > > help you!
> > > This post is rude! Wake up! Any reply to MorningZ's post I would have 
> > > been expecting to see some thanks, rather than being a pompous A**. My 
> > > bet is you just burned a big bridge to any further assistance with an 
> > > attitude like the one displayed here
> > > I'm betting I speak for many others who are tired of the inbox clutter 
> > > from your carousel problems
> > > expresso wrote:how the hell am I being rude? And second, I am giving 
> > > information to help you help me. Again I try all sorts of shit before I 
> > > post stuff. I don't just post on every step of the way. I am showing you 
> > > what I have tried. So you either get called out for not giving enough 
> > > information or giving too little. Chill On Jul 9, 11:04 am, 
> > > MorningZwrote:"so it's only respectful on my part to 
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same 
> > > thread.  Not cool. " You've got it backwards it makes more sense and 
> > > keeps the clutter out if you stay in the same topic. As Liam points 
> > > out you already asked the index question, AND it was answered by 
> > > Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours 
> > > agohttp://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_t

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Charlie and this is what pisses me off about you, statements like
this:

"You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a
simple carousel"

so you're saying basically "you're an idiot, this shit is simple".

wtf man, and you find me cocky?  I hate developers like you who think
that they are God's gift to mankind and you come at people with things
like "what you can't figure that out, it's simple" kind of cocky
attitude like I'm some kind of dumbass.

On Jul 9, 2:24 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
>
> from the JCarousel plug-in
>
> Because previous to that, you were pretty cocky about the way you said
> that disabled is not part of a   Read the post.
>
> YOu have to take that response above in context. I was in no way
> trying to be cocky, just making a point that hey, it's in there so I
> don't get why then.
>
> On Jul 9, 2:22 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, I have said thanks in a lot of my posts.
>
> > Second, I am customizing this control way beyond what most people
> > have.  And yes, it's pretty frustrating to say the least when you
> > create a plugin and then disappear after 2 years.  While it's open
> > source, still.  When you email the creator nicely asking him if he's
> > still contributing and you get no response, and then the forums the
> > pages for that Carousel are abandoned, one's got to wonder wtf.
>
> > My tone?  Look at the kind of responses I get from people like you.
> > Stuff like "Of Course that won't work".  Your tone is just as cocky as
> > you think mine is.
>
> > >>>a number of the last posts directed back to you have been trying to give 
> > >>>you a clue that everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts
>
> > I don't see how they are frantic, just separated out. And I don't see
> > all the people here who are getting fed up.
>
> > I want you and Morning to know that some of the responses are
> > definitely passive aggressive on your side to even start with.  Do you
> > need examples?
>
> > I'm not here to argue.  I'll do my best to consolidate my replies.
> > And understand that people are human, sure I'm frustrated with the
> > fact that the author is no longer to be found.  Don't take someone's
> > frustration to the point of saying I'm being negative when I was not
> > THAT negative.  What a way to blow this entire thing out of the water.
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Charlie  wrote:
>
> > > you sir are a complete ingrate! 
> > > You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a simple 
> > > carousel. I don't think you understand the tone of a number of the last 
> > > posts directed back to you have been trying to give you a clue that 
> > > everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts, condemning 
> > > someone's code ( on a plugin that 100's of people have used I might add), 
> > > not reading replies with solutions..and to top it off this post makes 
> > > it sound like others with busy lives are just sitting around waiting to 
> > > help you!
> > > This post is rude! Wake up! Any reply to MorningZ's post I would have 
> > > been expecting to see some thanks, rather than being a pompous A**. My 
> > > bet is you just burned a big bridge to any further assistance with an 
> > > attitude like the one displayed here
> > > I'm betting I speak for many others who are tired of the inbox clutter 
> > > from your carousel problems
> > > expresso wrote:how the hell am I being rude? And second, I am giving 
> > > information to help you help me. Again I try all sorts of shit before I 
> > > post stuff. I don't just post on every step of the way. I am showing you 
> > > what I have tried. So you either get called out for not giving enough 
> > > information or giving too little. Chill On Jul 9, 11:04 am, 
> > > MorningZwrote:"so it's only respectful on my part to 
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same 
> > > thread.  Not cool. " You've got it backwards it makes more sense and 
> > > keeps the clutter out if you stay in the same topic. As Liam points 
> > > out you already asked the index question, AND it was answered by 
> > > Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours 
> > > agohttp://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>and you blow up at my wondering why the author of that plugin
put it on there... how the @#$% am i supposed to know?

if that's "blowing up" then you need to relax when you read replies.
That in no way was "blowing up".

On Jul 9, 2:24 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
>
> from the JCarousel plug-in
>
> Because previous to that, you were pretty cocky about the way you said
> that disabled is not part of a   Read the post.
>
> YOu have to take that response above in context. I was in no way
> trying to be cocky, just making a point that hey, it's in there so I
> don't get why then.
>
> On Jul 9, 2:22 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, I have said thanks in a lot of my posts.
>
> > Second, I am customizing this control way beyond what most people
> > have.  And yes, it's pretty frustrating to say the least when you
> > create a plugin and then disappear after 2 years.  While it's open
> > source, still.  When you email the creator nicely asking him if he's
> > still contributing and you get no response, and then the forums the
> > pages for that Carousel are abandoned, one's got to wonder wtf.
>
> > My tone?  Look at the kind of responses I get from people like you.
> > Stuff like "Of Course that won't work".  Your tone is just as cocky as
> > you think mine is.
>
> > >>>a number of the last posts directed back to you have been trying to give 
> > >>>you a clue that everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts
>
> > I don't see how they are frantic, just separated out. And I don't see
> > all the people here who are getting fed up.
>
> > I want you and Morning to know that some of the responses are
> > definitely passive aggressive on your side to even start with.  Do you
> > need examples?
>
> > I'm not here to argue.  I'll do my best to consolidate my replies.
> > And understand that people are human, sure I'm frustrated with the
> > fact that the author is no longer to be found.  Don't take someone's
> > frustration to the point of saying I'm being negative when I was not
> > THAT negative.  What a way to blow this entire thing out of the water.
>
> > On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Charlie  wrote:
>
> > > you sir are a complete ingrate! 
> > > You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a simple 
> > > carousel. I don't think you understand the tone of a number of the last 
> > > posts directed back to you have been trying to give you a clue that 
> > > everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts, condemning 
> > > someone's code ( on a plugin that 100's of people have used I might add), 
> > > not reading replies with solutions..and to top it off this post makes 
> > > it sound like others with busy lives are just sitting around waiting to 
> > > help you!
> > > This post is rude! Wake up! Any reply to MorningZ's post I would have 
> > > been expecting to see some thanks, rather than being a pompous A**. My 
> > > bet is you just burned a big bridge to any further assistance with an 
> > > attitude like the one displayed here
> > > I'm betting I speak for many others who are tired of the inbox clutter 
> > > from your carousel problems
> > > expresso wrote:how the hell am I being rude? And second, I am giving 
> > > information to help you help me. Again I try all sorts of shit before I 
> > > post stuff. I don't just post on every step of the way. I am showing you 
> > > what I have tried. So you either get called out for not giving enough 
> > > information or giving too little. Chill On Jul 9, 11:04 am, 
> > > MorningZwrote:"so it's only respectful on my part to 
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same 
> > > thread.  Not cool. " You've got it backwards it makes more sense and 
> > > keeps the clutter out if you stay in the same topic. As Liam points 
> > > out you already asked the index question, AND it was answered by 
> > > Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours 
> > > agohttp://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
> > >  and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with 2 
> > > min apart two sentence ramblings on them all Realize what this list 
> > > for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of us provide free he

[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
from the JCarousel plug-in

Because previous to that, you were pretty cocky about the way you said
that disabled is not part of a   Read the post.

YOu have to take that response above in context. I was in no way
trying to be cocky, just making a point that hey, it's in there so I
don't get why then.

On Jul 9, 2:22 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Charlie, I have said thanks in a lot of my posts.
>
> Second, I am customizing this control way beyond what most people
> have.  And yes, it's pretty frustrating to say the least when you
> create a plugin and then disappear after 2 years.  While it's open
> source, still.  When you email the creator nicely asking him if he's
> still contributing and you get no response, and then the forums the
> pages for that Carousel are abandoned, one's got to wonder wtf.
>
> My tone?  Look at the kind of responses I get from people like you.
> Stuff like "Of Course that won't work".  Your tone is just as cocky as
> you think mine is.
>
> >>>a number of the last posts directed back to you have been trying to give 
> >>>you a clue that everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts
>
> I don't see how they are frantic, just separated out. And I don't see
> all the people here who are getting fed up.
>
> I want you and Morning to know that some of the responses are
> definitely passive aggressive on your side to even start with.  Do you
> need examples?
>
> I'm not here to argue.  I'll do my best to consolidate my replies.
> And understand that people are human, sure I'm frustrated with the
> fact that the author is no longer to be found.  Don't take someone's
> frustration to the point of saying I'm being negative when I was not
> THAT negative.  What a way to blow this entire thing out of the water.
>
> On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Charlie  wrote:
>
> > you sir are a complete ingrate! 
> > You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a simple 
> > carousel. I don't think you understand the tone of a number of the last 
> > posts directed back to you have been trying to give you a clue that 
> > everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts, condemning 
> > someone's code ( on a plugin that 100's of people have used I might add), 
> > not reading replies with solutions..and to top it off this post makes 
> > it sound like others with busy lives are just sitting around waiting to 
> > help you!
> > This post is rude! Wake up! Any reply to MorningZ's post I would have been 
> > expecting to see some thanks, rather than being a pompous A**. My bet is 
> > you just burned a big bridge to any further assistance with an attitude 
> > like the one displayed here
> > I'm betting I speak for many others who are tired of the inbox clutter from 
> > your carousel problems
> > expresso wrote:how the hell am I being rude? And second, I am giving 
> > information to help you help me. Again I try all sorts of shit before I 
> > post stuff. I don't just post on every step of the way. I am showing you 
> > what I have tried. So you either get called out for not giving enough 
> > information or giving too little. Chill On Jul 9, 11:04 am, 
> > MorningZwrote:"so it's only respectful on my part to 
> > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same 
> > thread.  Not cool. " You've got it backwards it makes more sense and 
> > keeps the clutter out if you stay in the same topic. As Liam points 
> > out you already asked the index question, AND it was answered by 
> > Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours 
> > agohttp://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916... 
> > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with 2 min 
> > apart two sentence ramblings on them all Realize what this list for 
> > what it is:   a mailing list where lots of us provide free help out of our 
> > own time making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being 
> > rude to people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same 
> > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues worth 
> > other peoples time and effort . On Jul 9, 11:12 am, 
> > expressowrote:Because sometimes I get into other 
> > topics not related to my original posts in those other thread so it's only 
> > respectful on my part to start a new thread on a different topic that's 
> > veering off in the same thread.  Not cool.On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam 
> > Potterwrote:how about reading all the replies to 
> > your other thread about this?$("#mycarousel > 
> > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");expresso wrote:Is it possible to 
> > target certain  in an unordered list by index with jQuery?  I thought 
> > maybe I could use .index but was not able to get the syntax right.I thought 
> > maybe something like this would work but is has not:$("#mycarousel > 
> > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Charlie, I have said thanks in a lot of my posts.

Second, I am customizing this control way beyond what most people
have.  And yes, it's pretty frustrating to say the least when you
create a plugin and then disappear after 2 years.  While it's open
source, still.  When you email the creator nicely asking him if he's
still contributing and you get no response, and then the forums the
pages for that Carousel are abandoned, one's got to wonder wtf.

My tone?  Look at the kind of responses I get from people like you.
Stuff like "Of Course that won't work".  Your tone is just as cocky as
you think mine is.

>>>a number of the last posts directed back to you have been trying to give you 
>>>a clue that everyone is getting really tired of all the frantic posts

I don't see how they are frantic, just separated out. And I don't see
all the people here who are getting fed up.

I want you and Morning to know that some of the responses are
definitely passive aggressive on your side to even start with.  Do you
need examples?

I'm not here to argue.  I'll do my best to consolidate my replies.
And understand that people are human, sure I'm frustrated with the
fact that the author is no longer to be found.  Don't take someone's
frustration to the point of saying I'm being negative when I was not
THAT negative.  What a way to blow this entire thing out of the water.

On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Charlie  wrote:
> you sir are a complete ingrate! 
> You have had endless help from numerous people for 2 weeks on a simple 
> carousel. I don't think you understand the tone of a number of the last posts 
> directed back to you have been trying to give you a clue that everyone is 
> getting really tired of all the frantic posts, condemning someone's code ( on 
> a plugin that 100's of people have used I might add), not reading replies 
> with solutions..and to top it off this post makes it sound like others 
> with busy lives are just sitting around waiting to help you!
> This post is rude! Wake up! Any reply to MorningZ's post I would have been 
> expecting to see some thanks, rather than being a pompous A**. My bet is you 
> just burned a big bridge to any further assistance with an attitude like the 
> one displayed here
> I'm betting I speak for many others who are tired of the inbox clutter from 
> your carousel problems
> expresso wrote:how the hell am I being rude? And second, I am giving 
> information to help you help me. Again I try all sorts of shit before I post 
> stuff. I don't just post on every step of the way. I am showing you what I 
> have tried. So you either get called out for not giving enough information or 
> giving too little. Chill On Jul 9, 11:04 am, 
> MorningZwrote:"so it's only respectful on my part to 
> start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same 
> thread.  Not cool. " You've got it backwards it makes more sense and 
> keeps the clutter out if you stay in the same topic. As Liam points 
> out you already asked the index question, AND it was answered by Charlie, 
> in the topic you created just 13 hours 
> agohttp://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916... 
> and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with 2 min 
> apart two sentence ramblings on them all Realize what this list for what 
> it is:   a mailing list where lots of us provide free help out of our own 
> time making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to 
> people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same stuff 
>  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues worth other 
> peoples time and effort . On Jul 9, 11:12 am, 
> expressowrote:Because sometimes I get into other topics 
> not related to my original posts in those other thread so it's only 
> respectful on my part to start a new thread on a different topic that's 
> veering off in the same thread.  Not cool.On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam 
> Potterwrote:how about reading all the replies to 
> your other thread about this?$("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", 
> "5px");expresso wrote:Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered 
> list by index with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not 
> able to get the syntax right.I thought maybe something like this would work 
> but is has not:$("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

hahah, I double posted.  OH boy, bend me over and slap me.

On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso  wrote:
> >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
> situation and things tried.
>
> On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> > question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> > instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > > little.
>
> > > Chill
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by 
> > > > > > > index
> > > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
situation and things tried.

On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
> You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> committed to the question on the index.
>
> Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > little.
>
> > Chill
>
> > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > .
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
situation and things tried.

On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
> You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> committed to the question on the index.
>
> Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > little.
>
> > Chill
>
> > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > .
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

>>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in explaining the
situation and things tried.

On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso  wrote:
> You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
> veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
> approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
> question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
> instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
> index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
> that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
> committed to the question on the index.
>
> Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
> the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> > get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> > little.
>
> > Chill
>
> > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > .
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
out if you stay in the same topic.

I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I start
veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a different
approach (in this case in that previous thread I started with a
question about obtaining the LAST ).  Then I wondering maybe
instead I can just iterate through the list of  and grab some by
index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or scope.  Yea,
that time I should have stuck with the thread because I already
committed to the question on the index.

Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different questions on
the same thread which is what I try to avoid

On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso  wrote:
> how the hell am I being rude?
>
> And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
> all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
> step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
> get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
> little.
>
> Chill
>
> On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> > out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> > As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> > us provide free help out of our own time
>
> > making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> > stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > .
>
> > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

how the hell am I being rude?

And second, I am giving information to help you help me.  Again I try
all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just post on every
step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  So you either
get called out for not giving enough information or giving too
little.

Chill

On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ  wrote:
> "so it's only respectful on my part to
> start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> thread.  Not cool. "
>
> You've got it backwards it makes more sense and keeps the clutter
> out if you stay in the same topic.
>
> As Liam points out you already asked the index question, AND it
> was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created just 13 hours ago
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> and yet, here's an identical topic asking the identical question with
> 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all
>
> Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing list where lots of
> us provide free help out of our own time
>
> making it difficult to understand what you are asking, being rude to
> people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on with the same
> stuff  all that doesn't lend itself very well to make your issues
> worth other peoples time and effort
>
> .
>
> On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
> > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
> > start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
> > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
>
> > > how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> > > expresso wrote:
> > > > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > > > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Remove margin in last in Unordered List

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

I did not know about eq and I don't have all fing day to figure this
out as I am very new to jQuery.  I do my dilligence and read the
books, try some stuff out and then when I am not sure of another way
to do this I post.  It's not like I am posting every step of the way
although it msut appear that to you.  I tried a few things before I
posted.

On Jul 9, 7:04 am, Charlie  wrote:
> of course it won't work, is improper use of index(),
> replace index() with eq()
> Suggestion:
> instead of posting each and every thought and failed function you have every 
> 2 minutes, this example could have been created in a very simple test page to 
> get the methods and syntax sorted out. Would have saved us watch the 
> floundering on each and every step of your grief. Other example you tried 
> $("#mycarousel > li[" + i + "]") is syntax problem with several workarounds 
> including :eq()
> Building simple test pages is one of the best ways to learn jquery IMO. 
> Keeping a simple template including link to jquery google source, and a 
> $(document)ready built in you can build a test page in any directory in 
> almost no time and debug in Firebug
> expresso wrote:tried this but doesn't look like you can do this 
> $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "0px").css("padding- 
> right", "6px"); On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, expressowrote:Like 
> something like this $("#mycarousel > li[" + i + "]").css("margin-right", 
> "0px").css ("padding-right", "6px"); On Jul 8, 9:46 pm, 
> expressowrote:Thanks.  I wonder if you can even access 
> an  by index?On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, MorningZwrote:Why 
> wouldn't you just use:http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors/last$("#mycarousel > 
> li:last").css("property", "value");On Jul 8, 10:17 pm, 
> expressowrote:If I have the following: class="jcarousel-clip jcarousel-clip-horizontal" style="width: 459px; height: 
> 220px;">               class="jcarousel-item jcarousel-item-horizontal jcarousel- item-1 
> jcarousel-item-1-horizontal" jcarouselindex="1">                   class="jcarousel-item jcarousel-item-horizontal jcarousel- item-2 
> jcarousel-item-2-horizontal" jcarouselindex="2">                   class="jcarousel-item jcarousel-item-horizontal jcarousel- item-3 
> jcarousel-item-3-horizontal" jcarouselindex="3">           
> Trying to figure out how I can do a .each on each  and then add an 
> additional style to the last  in the list.


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Because sometimes I get into other topics not related to my original
posts in those other thread so it's only respectful on my part to
start a new thread on a different topic that's veering off in the same
thread.  Not cool.

On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter  wrote:
> how about reading all the replies to your other thread about this?
>
> $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", "5px");
>
> expresso wrote:
> > Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> > get the syntax right.
>
> > I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
> > $("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

thanks will try that out.

On Jul 9, 9:15 am, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> If i'm reading your code right, you may want to try eq(i) instead of index
> (i).  index is used to return the index of the match element, its not used
> to retrieve that element.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
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>                                                    
>
> Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> get the syntax right.
>
> I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
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[jQuery] Re: Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

thanks will try that out.

On Jul 9, 9:15 am, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> If i'm reading your code right, you may want to try eq(i) instead of index
> (i).  index is used to return the index of the match element, its not used
> to retrieve that element.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
>   From:       expresso                                   
>                                                   
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>                                                    
>
> Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
> with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
> get the syntax right.
>
> I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:
>
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[jQuery] Access by item in the array

2009-07-09 Thread expresso

Is it possible to target certain  in an unordered list by index
with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use .index but was not able to
get the syntax right.

I thought maybe something like this would work but is has not:

$("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");


[jQuery] Re: Remove margin in last in Unordered List

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

tried this but doesn't look like you can do this

$("#mycarousel > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "0px").css("padding-
right", "6px");

On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Like something like this
>
> $("#mycarousel > li[" + i + "]").css("margin-right", "0px").css
> ("padding-right", "6px");
>
> On Jul 8, 9:46 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Thanks.  I wonder if you can even access an  by index?
>
> > On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > Why wouldn't you just use:
>
> > >http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors/last
>
> > > $("#mycarousel > li:last").css("property", "value");
>
> > > On Jul 8, 10:17 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > If I have the following:
>
> > > > 
> > > >     
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > Trying to figure out how I can do a .each on each  and then add an
> > > > additional style to the last  in the list.


[jQuery] Re: Remove margin in last in Unordered List

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Like something like this

$("#mycarousel > li[" + i + "]").css("margin-right", "0px").css
("padding-right", "6px");

On Jul 8, 9:46 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Thanks.  I wonder if you can even access an  by index?
>
> On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > Why wouldn't you just use:
>
> >http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors/last
>
> > $("#mycarousel > li:last").css("property", "value");
>
> > On Jul 8, 10:17 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > If I have the following:
>
> > > 
> > >     
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > > 
> > > 
>
> > > Trying to figure out how I can do a .each on each  and then add an
> > > additional style to the last  in the list.


[jQuery] Re: Remove margin in last in Unordered List

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Thanks.  I wonder if you can even access an  by index?

On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> Why wouldn't you just use:
>
> http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors/last
>
> $("#mycarousel > li:last").css("property", "value");
>
> On Jul 8, 10:17 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > If I have the following:
>
> > 
> >     
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         
> > 
> > 
>
> > Trying to figure out how I can do a .each on each  and then add an
> > additional style to the last  in the list.


[jQuery] Remove margin in last in Unordered List

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

If I have the following:












Trying to figure out how I can do a .each on each  and then add an
additional style to the last  in the list.


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

finally figured out a way to do this, had to unbind any events to it

jQuery(".jcarousel-next").unbind("click");
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").addClass("jcarousel-next
jcarousel-next-horizontal jcarousel-next- disabled jcarousel-next-
disabled-horizontal");
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").attr("disabled", true);

adios and thanks for the help.

On Jul 8, 3:15 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> Thats part of how a form submission works, its not the site.  FF will warn
> you if you submitted something using a form and are trying to refresh that
> same page.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
>   From:       expresso                                   
>                                                 
>
>   To:         "jQuery (English)"                  
>                                                  
>
>   Date:       07/08/2009 03:56 PM                                             
>                                                  
>
>   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div                                 
>                                                  
>
> Because I refresh the page here and it reposts it.  I didn't build
> this forum.  Mabye someone should fix that.
>
> On Jul 8, 2:11 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
>
> > Maybe a mail rule setup wrong?
>
> > cheers
>
> > Michael Lawson
> > Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> > Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> > E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> > 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If
> you
> > find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> > or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
> >   From:       MorningZ 
>
> >   To:         "jQuery (English)" 
>
> >   Date:       07/08/2009 03:01 PM
>
> >   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > What is up with the repeated posts?  Seems to happen on any topic you
> > are involved in
>
> >  graycol.gif
> > < 1KViewDownload
>
> >  ecblank.gif
> > < 1KViewDownload
>
>
>
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[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

strange did not get warnings but will be aware next time.

Now back to this stupid next button issue.  I tried this

jQuery(".jcarousel-next").addClass("jcarousel-next
jcarousel-next-horizontal jcarousel-next- disabled jcarousel-next-
disabled-horizontal");
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").attr("disabled", true);

that changed the cssClass so now the page shows this:



so when I mouse over the next button sure enough it is this that's
highlighted in FireBug so I know this is the mark-up for that next
button.

While the styles show it greyed out with an alternate image...I can
still click next!  If anyone can look at the JCarousel source to help
me figure out how to explicitly tell this thing to disable completely
it will help me save about another day of migranes.

I give up as I've spent hours on this on my own before posting here to
try to disable this damn button when I want to.  
http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/

Where is Jan!

On Jul 8, 3:15 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> Thats part of how a form submission works, its not the site.  FF will warn
> you if you submitted something using a form and are trying to refresh that
> same page.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
>   From:       expresso                                   
>                                                 
>
>   To:         "jQuery (English)"                  
>                                                  
>
>   Date:       07/08/2009 03:56 PM                                             
>                                                  
>
>   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div                                 
>                                                  
>
> Because I refresh the page here and it reposts it.  I didn't build
> this forum.  Mabye someone should fix that.
>
> On Jul 8, 2:11 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
>
> > Maybe a mail rule setup wrong?
>
> > cheers
>
> > Michael Lawson
> > Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> > Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> > E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> > 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If
> you
> > find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> > or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
> >   From:       MorningZ 
>
> >   To:         "jQuery (English)" 
>
> >   Date:       07/08/2009 03:01 PM
>
> >   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > What is up with the repeated posts?  Seems to happen on any topic you
> > are involved in
>
> >  graycol.gif
> > < 1KViewDownload
>
> >  ecblank.gif
> > < 1KViewDownload
>
>
>
>  graycol.gif
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[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Because I refresh the page here and it reposts it.  I didn't build
this forum.  Mabye someone should fix that.

On Jul 8, 2:11 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> Maybe a mail rule setup wrong?
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
>   From:       MorningZ                                    
>                                                    
>
>   To:         "jQuery (English)"                  
>                                                    
>
>   Date:       07/08/2009 03:01 PM                                             
>                                                    
>
>   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div                                 
>                                                    
>
> What is up with the repeated posts?  Seems to happen on any topic you
> are involved in
>
>  graycol.gif
> < 1KViewDownload
>
>  ecblank.gif
> < 1KViewDownload


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Thanks Morning.

On Jul 8, 12:51 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "I don't even see how a div can be buttonized in the first place! "
>
> All these would accomplish the same thing
>
> Button by Div
> Actual Button
> Hyperlink
> Span
> 
>
> the jQuery
>
> $(".btn").click(function() {
>     alert("You fired off an event");
>     return false; //stops 'button' and 'a' from default action
>
> });
>
> You're using a DOM object to fire an event, it's not more complicated
> than that  :)
>
> On Jul 8, 1:41 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
> > necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
> > even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
> > a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> > > from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> > > "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> > > You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> > > uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> > > it
>
> > > You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> > > Some Text
>
> > > ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> > > that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> > > With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> > > purpose like:
>
> > > if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> > > else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> > > So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> > > On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there 
> > > > >>>is
>
> > > > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > > > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > > > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > > > 
>
> > > > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > > > again based on what decision point?
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > > > >             var self = this;
> > > > >             n = true;
> > > > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > > > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > > > >             }
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p)

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Thanks Morning.

On Jul 8, 12:51 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "I don't even see how a div can be buttonized in the first place! "
>
> All these would accomplish the same thing
>
> Button by Div
> Actual Button
> Hyperlink
> Span
> 
>
> the jQuery
>
> $(".btn").click(function() {
>     alert("You fired off an event");
>     return false; //stops 'button' and 'a' from default action
>
> });
>
> You're using a DOM object to fire an event, it's not more complicated
> than that  :)
>
> On Jul 8, 1:41 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
> > necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
> > even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
> > a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> > > from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> > > "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> > > You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> > > uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> > > it
>
> > > You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> > > Some Text
>
> > > ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> > > that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> > > With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> > > purpose like:
>
> > > if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> > > else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> > > So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> > > On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there 
> > > > >>>is
>
> > > > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > > > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > > > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > > > 
>
> > > > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > > > again based on what decision point?
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > > > >             var self = this;
> > > > >             n = true;
> > > > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > > > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > > > >             }
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p)

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Thanks Morning.

On Jul 8, 12:51 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "I don't even see how a div can be buttonized in the first place! "
>
> All these would accomplish the same thing
>
> Button by Div
> Actual Button
> Hyperlink
> Span
> 
>
> the jQuery
>
> $(".btn").click(function() {
>     alert("You fired off an event");
>     return false; //stops 'button' and 'a' from default action
>
> });
>
> You're using a DOM object to fire an event, it's not more complicated
> than that  :)
>
> On Jul 8, 1:41 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
> > necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
> > even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
> > a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > > "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> > > from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> > > "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> > > You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> > > uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> > > it
>
> > > You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> > > Some Text
>
> > > ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> > > that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> > > With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> > > purpose like:
>
> > > if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> > > else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> > > So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> > > On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there 
> > > > >>>is
>
> > > > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > > > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > > > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > > > 
>
> > > > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > > > again based on what decision point?
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > > > >             var self = this;
> > > > >             n = true;
> > > > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > > > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > > > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > > > >             }
>
> > > > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > > > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p)

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

I think ultimately what I may have to do is just change out the css=

so change it from class="jcarousel-next jcarousel-next-horizontal"

to class="jcarousel-next jcarousel-next-horizontal jcarousel-next-
disabled jcarousel-next-disabled-horizontal"

even if that works, I still do not undestand how he's basically taking
that and essentially disabling the functionality in his code.

On Jul 8, 12:41 pm, expresso  wrote:
> I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
> necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
> even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
> a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.
>
> On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> > from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> > "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> > You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> > uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> > it
>
> > You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> > Some Text
>
> > ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> > that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> > With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> > purpose like:
>
> > if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> > else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> > So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> > On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
>
> > > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > > 
>
> > > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > > again based on what decision point?
>
> > > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > > >             var self = this;
> > > >             n = true;
> > > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > > >             }
>
> > > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
> > > >                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
> > > >             }
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > > > > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > > > > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > > >

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.

On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> it
>
> You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> Some Text
>
> ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> purpose like:
>
> if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
>
> > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > 
>
> > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > again based on what decision point?
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > >             var self = this;
> > >             n = true;
> > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > >             }
>
> > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
> > >                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
> > >             }
>
> > > On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > > > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > > > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > > > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > > > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > > > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > > > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > > > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > > > has.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > > > on those IDs I send

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

I see what you're saying about using properties that are not
necessarily valid in XHTML.  I just cannot understand how this guy is
even creating the button (yea I see the code but I don't get it..it's
a div!) or what event is causing it to be enabled or not.

On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> it
>
> You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> Some Text
>
> ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> purpose like:
>
> if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
>
> > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > 
>
> > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > again based on what decision point?
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > >             var self = this;
> > >             n = true;
> > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > >             }
>
> > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
> > >                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
> > >             }
>
> > > On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > > > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > > > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > > > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > > > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > > > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > > > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > > > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > > > has.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > > > on those IDs I send

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

I don't even see how a div can be buttonized in the first place!

On Jul 8, 12:38 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> "Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
> from the JCarousel plug-in?"
>
> "and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js"
>
> You act like I wrote it, i have no idea why the author of that plugin
> uses that method, or why you are having to take a week to understand
> it
>
> You can add any property you want via js or even put it in the HTML
>
> Some Text
>
> ***that doesn't mean it's going to do anything out of the box*** (<--
> that's the point you seem to be missing here)
>
> With those fake/invalid properties used, they could still server a
> purpose like:
>
> if ($("div#Next").attr("foo") == null) { alert("Next is enabled"); }
> else { alert("Next is disabled"); }
>
> So it could still be useful, although not valid markup
>
> On Jul 8, 1:26 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
>
> > no "disabled" property of a 
>
> > and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
> > while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind
>
> > 
>
> > obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
> > again based on what decision point?
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> > > the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> > > button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> > > eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
> > >             var self = this;
> > >             n = true;
> > >             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', n ? false : true);
> > >             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> > > (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> > > 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> > > ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
> > >             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
> > >                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
> > >             }
>
> > >             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> > > [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> > > = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
> > >                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> > > { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
> > >                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
> > >             }
>
> > > On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > > > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > > > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > > > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > > > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > > > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > > > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > > > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > > > has.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > > > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > > > > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > > > > example here:  
> > > > > ht

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

>>>Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
no "disabled" property of a 

and tell me why then do we see it being added in the .js and then
while viewing source we see it in the HTML!  It boggles my mind



obviously that IS how he's disabling or enabling the next button.  But
again based on what decision point?

On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
> The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
>             var self = this;
>             n = true;
>             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', n ? false : true);
>             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
>             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
>                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
>             }
>
>             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
>                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
>             }
>
> On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > has.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > > example here:  
> > > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > > doing that there.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > > your selector.
>
> > > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > > incorrect
>
> > > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > > or
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > > It might create probl

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

I've had it with this plug-in I guess.  After spending a week to
accomplish our goal, it's been a huge frustration especially when the
author seizes to exist.

On Jul 8, 12:15 pm, expresso  wrote:
> The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
> the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
> button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
> eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:
>
>             var self = this;
>             n = true;
>             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', n ? false : true);
>             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
>             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
>                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
>             }
>
>             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
>                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
>             }
>
> On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > has.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > > example here:  
> > > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > > doing that there.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > > your selector.
>
> > > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > > incorrect
>
> > > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > > or
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this 
> > > > > > disable
> > > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > 

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
from the JCarousel plug-in?

  this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
('disabled', n ? false : true);

If anyone can figure out how the hell the next button is being
enabled...besides that you can clearly see that it's adding a disabled
attribute to that div, I'm all ears cause I have not understood how
that is enabled.

Look at the JCarousel.js

I have for about a week trying to figure out how the fing next button
works.

On Jul 8, 12:11 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
> no "disabled" property of a 
>
> On Jul 8, 1:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > has.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > > example here:  
> > > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > > doing that there.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > > your selector.
>
> > > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > > incorrect
>
> > > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > > or
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this 
> > > > > > disable
> > > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > > > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="width:
> > > > > > > > 600px; height: 220px;">
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
>
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And 
> > > > > > > > what I
> > > > > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Morning, then tell my why the code is putting that in there straight
from the JCarousel plug-in?

  this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
('disabled', n ? false : true);

If anyone can figure out how the hell the next button is being
enabled...besides that you can clearly see that it's adding a disabled
attribute to that div, I'm all ears cause I have not understood how
that is enabled.

Look at the JCarousel.js

I have for about a week trying to figure out how the fing next button
works.

On Jul 8, 12:11 pm, MorningZ  wrote:
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> Why would you expect that to?   As mentioned at the very top, there is
> no "disabled" property of a 
>
> On Jul 8, 1:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> > want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> > wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> > figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> > have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> > to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> > the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> > It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> > has.
>
> > On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > > example here:  
> > > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > > doing that there.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > > your selector.
>
> > > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > > incorrect
>
> > > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > > or
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this 
> > > > > > disable
> > > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > > > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="width:
> > > > > > > > 600px; height: 220px;">
> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
>
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And 
> > > > > > > > what I
> > > > > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso


The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:

var self = this;
n = true;
this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
('disabled', n ? false : true);
this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
('disabled', p ? false : true);

if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
= n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
this.buttonNext.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
}

if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
= p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
this.buttonPrev.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
}

On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
> We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> has.
>
> On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > example here:  
> > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > doing that there.
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > your selector.
>
> > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > incorrect
>
> > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > or
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cann

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso


The hardest part about this plug-in has been that after pouring over
the base code in his .js file I do not see how it's disabling the next
button. Based on what!?!?!  I mean I can stare the code right in the
eye where it's happening but I cannot make sense of it:

var self = this;
n = true;
this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
('disabled', n ? false : true);
this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
('disabled', p ? false : true);

if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
= n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
this.buttonNext.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
}

if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
= p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
this.buttonPrev.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
}

On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
> We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> has.
>
> On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > example here:  
> > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > doing that there.
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > your selector.
>
> > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > incorrect
>
> > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > or
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cann

[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

>>>seems like making the custom code fit the functionality of the plugin ( 
>>>which works)

obviously but I poured through all examples and none of them would do
what we want.  We are going beyond what this thing does in terms of
how it does the deferred loading.

On Jul 8, 12:06 pm, expresso  wrote:
> We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
> want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
> wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
> figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
> have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
> to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
> the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.
>
> It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
> has.
>
> On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> > loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> > on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> > back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> > example here:  
> > http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> > that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> > loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> > doing that there.
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > > your selector.
>
> > > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > > incorrect
>
> > > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > > or
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="width:
> > > > > > > 600px; height: 220px;">
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
>
> > > > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

We couldn't just set the size like they did either.  Because we don't
want to set a size greater than the # of elements we're showing.  So I
wanted to set # of items to show and on click of next it dynamically
figures out how many more elements to show.  So if I specify 4, I even
have some JavaScript that manipulates the DOM and expands the control
to fit 4 but also, if the array of IDs doesn't have an even number,
the last scroll will only scroll x more to show the rest.

It's similar but doesn't quite fullfill our needs, the examples he
has.

On Jul 8, 12:02 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
> loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
> on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
> back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
> example here:  
> http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html
>
> that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
> loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
> doing that there.
>
> On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > > your selector.
>
> > > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > > incorrect
>
> > > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > > or
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > > Because it sucks?
> > > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  > > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > >  > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > >  > > > > > style="display:
> > > > > > block;" disabled="false"/>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  > > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
>
> > > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
example here:  
http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html

that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
doing that there.

On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > your selector.
>
> > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > incorrect
>
> > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > or
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > Because it sucks?
> > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
>
> > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Charlie, you also don't understand that we are using deferred
loading.  And I'm reading an array of IDs from a JS variable.  based
on those IDs I send a JSON request / response and then I get that
back.  I'm making this control much more dynamic than their out of box
example here:  
http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html

that logic can't be reused..it's custom to the Flickr API.  We're not
loading ours like this.  So I couldnt' just reuse the way they were
doing that there.

On Jul 8, 11:57 am, expresso  wrote:
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.
>
> On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
>
> > It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> > "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> > applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> > your selector.
>
> > Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> > incorrect
>
> > Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> > or
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > Because it sucks?
> > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
>
> > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Charlie, we have.  But we are doing something completely past what
this control does.  For example I have it expanding and contracting
based on # of items you want to show.  Getting that logic in there
required some extensive thought on my side and something that this
control does not do.  Because of that, we can't just stick to what the
thing does...it doesn't fit our needs.

On Jul 8, 11:22 am, Charlie  wrote:
> seems like making the custom code fit the functionality of the plugin ( which 
> works), rather than hack the plugin to pieces to fit your methods, would make 
> more sense
> expresso wrote:NO, I have custom code that determines how to paint in images 
> to JCarousel based on a JavaScript array, much more dynamic and deferred 
> loading...even more custom than they have it. So I need to be able to tell it 
> when it's at the end to disable that button. The default behavior won't work 
> for what I'm doing based on my own itemLoad method's logic now. Take a look 
> athttp://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/yea, I know default behavior 
> automatically disables the next button. But again, I have very custom logic 
> I'm using in my load event so I now will have to tell it when it's at the end 
> of the list of data so that I can manually disable that button. When you look 
> at the source, the button is here: On Jul 
> 8, 10:40 am, BaBnawrote:Because it sucks? It might 
> create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable on a DIV is an 
> IE "special feature", I don't know. Anyway, what do you want to achieve here? 
> On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"wrote:How come is 
> that you want to disable a div??Do you mean, block the content inside 
> div?- Original Message - From: "BaBna"To: 
> "jQuery (English)"Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 
> 9:28 AM Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable divMaybe because there is no 
> disabled property for DIV?http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.aspOn Jul 8, 
> 4:25 pm, expressowrote: 
>  style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">  class="jcarousel-prev jcarousel-prev-horizontal" style="display: block;" 
> disabled="false"/>  style="display: block;" disabled="false"/>   id="mycarousel" class="jcarousel-list jcarousel-list-horizontal" 
> style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I also 
> don't get is what is disable doing for a div?I have tried 
> this:jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next- 
> horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.


On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
> It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> your selector.
>
> Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> incorrect
>
> Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> or
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > Because it sucks?
> > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
horizontal").attr("disabled","true"); did not work.


On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
> It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> your selector.
>
> Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> incorrect
>
> Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> or
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > Because it sucks?
> > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

amuhlou, I get a syntax error when I change .attr(disabled: "true") to
using commas such as you have it.

I get "invalid object initializer"

jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-horizontal").attr
({ "disabled", "true" });

On Jul 8, 11:06 am, amuhlou  wrote:
> It doesn't look like what you're trying to select exists. the
> "jcarousel-next" and "jcarousel-next-horizontal" classes are being
> applied to the same div, so there shouldn't be a space between them in
> your selector.
>
> Additionally, it appears your syntax for the attribute selector is
> incorrect
>
> Have you tried jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
> or
> jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next.jcarousel-next-
> horizontal").attr("disabled","true");
>
> On Jul 8, 11:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > Because it sucks?
> > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

NO, I have custom code that determines how to paint in images to
JCarousel based on a JavaScript array, much more dynamic and deferred
loading...even more custom than they have it.  So I need to be able to
tell it when it's at the end to disable that button.  The default
behavior won't work for what I'm doing based on my own itemLoad
method's logic now.

Take a look at http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/

yea, I know default behavior automatically disables the next button.
But again, I have very custom logic I'm using in my load event so I
now will have to tell it when it's at the end of the list of data so
that I can manually disable that button.

When you look at the source, the button is here:


On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
> Because it sucks?
> It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BaBna" 
> > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
>
> > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > I have tried this:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Now you tell me how the f* I'm supposed to understand how to
manipulate this crap.  So I figured I can just disable it with CSS
straight up.

On Jul 8, 11:05 am, expresso  wrote:
>         buttons: function(n, p) {
>             if (n == undefined || n == null) {
>                 var n = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
> ((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'first') ||
> this.options.size == null);
>                 //if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
> this.options.wrap == 'first') && this.options.size != null &&
> this.last >= this.options.size)
>                 //    n = this.tail != null && !this.inTail;
>             }
>
>             if (p == undefined || p == null) {
>                 var p = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
> ((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'last') || this.first >
> 1);
>                 if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
> this.options.wrap == 'last') && this.options.size != null &&
> this.first == 1)
>                     p = this.tail != null && this.inTail;
>             }
>
>             var self = this;
>             n = true;
>             this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', n ? false : true);
>             this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
> (this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
> 'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
> ('disabled', p ? false : true);
>
>             if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
> = n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonNext.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
>                 this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
>             }
>
>             if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
> [0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
> = p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
>                 this.buttonPrev.each(function()
> { self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
>                 this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
>             }
>         },
>
> On Jul 8, 11:03 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > If you look at the JCarousel .js, here's the logic
>
> >         buttonNextHTML: '',
> > 
> >         this.buttonNext = $('.jcarousel-next', this.container);
>
> >         if (this.buttonNext.size() == 0 &&
> > this.options.buttonNextHTML != null)
> >             this.buttonNext = this.clip.before
> > (this.options.buttonNextHTML).prev();
>
> > On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > > Because it sucks?
> > > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
>
> > > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

buttons: function(n, p) {
if (n == undefined || n == null) {
var n = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'first') ||
this.options.size == null);
//if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
this.options.wrap == 'first') && this.options.size != null &&
this.last >= this.options.size)
//n = this.tail != null && !this.inTail;
}

if (p == undefined || p == null) {
var p = !this.locked && this.options.size !== 0 &&
((this.options.wrap && this.options.wrap != 'last') || this.first >
1);
if (!this.locked && (!this.options.wrap ||
this.options.wrap == 'last') && this.options.size != null &&
this.first == 1)
p = this.tail != null && this.inTail;
}

var self = this;
n = true;
this.buttonNext[n ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonNextEvent, this.funcNext)[n ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-next-disabled')).attr
('disabled', n ? false : true);
this.buttonPrev[p ? 'bind' : 'unbind']
(this.options.buttonPrevEvent, this.funcPrev)[p ? 'removeClass' :
'addClass'](this.className('jcarousel-prev-disabled')).attr
('disabled', p ? false : true);

if (this.buttonNext.length > 0 && (this.buttonNext
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate !
= n) && this.options.buttonNextCallback != null) {
this.buttonNext.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonNextCallback(self, this, n); });
this.buttonNext[0].jcarouselstate = true;
}

if (this.buttonPrev.length > 0 && (this.buttonPrev
[0].jcarouselstate == undefined || this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate !
= p) && this.options.buttonPrevCallback != null) {
this.buttonPrev.each(function()
{ self.options.buttonPrevCallback(self, this, p); });
this.buttonPrev[0].jcarouselstate = p;
}
},

On Jul 8, 11:03 am, expresso  wrote:
> If you look at the JCarousel .js, here's the logic
>
>         buttonNextHTML: '',
> 
>         this.buttonNext = $('.jcarousel-next', this.container);
>
>         if (this.buttonNext.size() == 0 &&
> this.options.buttonNextHTML != null)
>             this.buttonNext = this.clip.before
> (this.options.buttonNextHTML).prev();
>
> On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > Because it sucks?
> > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

this.container.css('display', 'block');
this.buttonNext.css('display', 'block');
this.buttonPrev.css('display', 'block');

this.funcNext = function() { self.next(); };
this.funcPrev = function() { self.prev(); };
this.funcResize = function() { self.reload(); };

On Jul 8, 11:03 am, expresso  wrote:
> If you look at the JCarousel .js, here's the logic
>
>         buttonNextHTML: '',
> 
>         this.buttonNext = $('.jcarousel-next', this.container);
>
>         if (this.buttonNext.size() == 0 &&
> this.options.buttonNextHTML != null)
>             this.buttonNext = this.clip.before
> (this.options.buttonNextHTML).prev();
>
> On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
>
> > Because it sucks?
> > It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> > on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> > Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BaBna" 
> > > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> > >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  > > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
>
> > > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > > I have tried this:
>
> > > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

If you look at the JCarousel .js, here's the logic

buttonNextHTML: '',

this.buttonNext = $('.jcarousel-next', this.container);

if (this.buttonNext.size() == 0 &&
this.options.buttonNextHTML != null)
this.buttonNext = this.clip.before
(this.options.buttonNextHTML).prev();


On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
> Because it sucks?
> It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BaBna" 
> > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
>
> > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > I have tried this:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

>>Do you mean, block the content inside div?

I think but the reason I can't tell is because in FireBug, looking at
the source, there is no content inside that div.

On Jul 8, 10:40 am, BaBna  wrote:
> Because it sucks?
> It might create problems with some DTD I think, and maybe this disable
> on a DIV is an IE "special feature", I don't know.
> Anyway, what do you want to achieve here?
>
> On Jul 8, 4:30 pm, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
>
> > How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> > Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BaBna" 
> > To: "jQuery (English)" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> > Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  > > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
>
> > > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > > I have tried this:
>
> > > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Because I want to disable the next button in this plug-in explicitely.

On Jul 8, 10:30 am, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
> How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "BaBna" 
> To: "jQuery (English)" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > 
> >  > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>
> > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > I have tried this:
>
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

Because I want to disable the next button in this plug-in explicitely.

On Jul 8, 10:30 am, "Cesar Sanz"  wrote:
> How come is that you want to disable a div??
>
> Do you mean, block the content inside div?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "BaBna" 
> To: "jQuery (English)" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:28 AM
> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div
>
> Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
> > 
> >  > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>
> > I'm trying to change disabled to true. It's not taking. And what I
> > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > I have tried this:
>
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso

then why the heck does JCarousel put one in it?

On Jul 8, 10:28 am, BaBna  wrote:
> Maybe because there is no disabled property for DIV?
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DIV.asp
>
> On Jul 8, 4:25 pm, expresso  wrote:
>
> > 
> >  > style="display: block; height: 220px; width: 592px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > style="height: 220px; width: 3315px; left: -2028px;">
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>
> > I'm trying to change disabled to true.  It's not taking.  And what I
> > also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?
>
> > I have tried this:
>
> > jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
> > horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Cannot disable div

2009-07-08 Thread expresso












I'm trying to change disabled to true.  It's not taking.  And what I
also don't get is what is disable doing for a div?

I have tried this:

jQuery(".jcarousel-skin-ie7 .jcarousel-next .jcarousel-next-
horizontal").attr({ disabled: "true" });


[jQuery] Re: Remove an

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

weird, I went to the selectors page but don't see nextAll

On Jul 6, 5:47 am, Ricardo  wrote:
> $(this).nextAll('.jcarousel-item-placeholder').remove();
>
> http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors
>
> On Jul 6, 1:05 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I want to remove the following  and any after that which have the
> > class jcarousel-item-placeholder in them
>
> > 
> > > I'm not sure how to go about this.


[jQuery] Re: Remove an

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

thanks I have not seen nextAll yet.

On Jul 6, 5:47 am, Ricardo  wrote:
> $(this).nextAll('.jcarousel-item-placeholder').remove();
>
> http://docs.jquery.com/Selectors
>
> On Jul 6, 1:05 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I want to remove the following  and any after that which have the
> > class jcarousel-item-placeholder in them
>
> > 
> > > I'm not sure how to go about this.


[jQuery] Re: IE (any version) is not parsing returned JSON via getJSON or $.ajax calls

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

fixed it,

removed:

context.Response.Charset = Encoding.UTF8.ToString();

changed: context.Response.ContentType = "application/
json;charset=utf-8";


On Jul 6, 2:38 pm, expresso  wrote:
> I am trying out $.ajax instead of getJSON for debugging purposes.
> Because getJSON did not report an error in IE (6,7 or 8) and I am
> trying to figure out why a jQuery plug-in is not painting my returned
> images to the screen in IE but is in other browsers.
>
> So I tried this. Interestingly enough, it hits the error event in IE
> but not firefox, safari and the rest and I don't know why (this code
> works great and renders my data just fine in FireFox and the rest). I
> know my returned json is valid:
>
> $.ajax({
>     type: "GET",
>     url: "http://localhost:59396/sss/sssHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>     data: "{}",
>     contentType: "application/json; charset=utf-8",
>     dataType: "json",
>     success: function(data) {
>         alert(data.length);
>         carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>         if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow < numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>             first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>         }
>
>         var d = 0;
>         for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>             if (d != undefined) {
>                 // add data using index of the array returned by JSON
> (which starts at 0)
>                 carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>             }
>
>             // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>             if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat(data
> [d].ProductID); }
>
>             d++;
>         }
>     },
>
>     error: function() {
>         alert("An error has occurred. Please try again.");
>     }
>
> });
>
> I don't know what else to do to troubleshoot why IE is having so much
> trouble with the returned JSON or just executing the function(data)
> using either getJSON OR this. I have set the headers not the cache
> also in the response. That is not the problem. The problem is for
> whatever reason, IE refuses to enter my function(data) on the
> response.
>
> Here's the returned JSON which shows valid (even checked it 
> withhttp://www.jsonlint.com/):
>
> [
>     {
>         "ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem
> \"\u003e<p><img src="http://www.xxx.com/image/
> 2568.jpg" alt=""></p>\u003cp\u003e\u003ca
> href=
> \"Bear-10.prod\"\u003eTeddy Bear\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp
> \u003e$20.95\u003c/p\u003e\u003cdiv\u003e",
>         "ProductID": "540"
>     },
>     {
>         "ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem
> \"\u003e<p><img src="http://www.xxx.com/image/
> 50.jpg" alt=""></p>\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=
> \"Pendant362.prod\"\u003eBirthday\u003csup\u003e©\u003c/sup
> \u003Necklace\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e$36.95\u003c/p
> \u003e\u003cdiv\u003e",
>         "ProductID": "83"
>     }
> ]
>
> in my .ashx I simply have the following main code to product the
> response
>
>         context.Response.ContentType = "application/json";
>         context.Response.Charset = Encoding.UTF8.ToString();
>         context.Response.Cache.SetNoStore();
>         context.Response.Cache.SetExpires(DateTime.MinValue);
>         context.Response.Cache.SetCacheability
> (HttpCacheability.NoCache);
>         context.Response.Cache.SetValidUntilExpires(false);
>
>         context.Response.Expires = -1;
>         context.Response.ExpiresAbsolute = DateTime.MinValue;
>         context.Response.AddHeader("Cache-Control", "no-cache");
>         context.Response.AddHeader("Cache-Control", "post-check=0, pre-
> check=0");
>         context.Response.AddHeader("Pragma", "no-cache");
>
> ...
>
> string jsonString = imageList.ToJSON(); <-- uses the .NET 3.5
> JavaScriptSerializer
>         context.Response.Write(jsonString);
>
> also, it doesn't seem to matter if you specify the
> response.ContentType as "application/json" or "text/plain" because at
> least I'm getting valid data in FireFox returned and parsed.
>
> I tried even sending a simple hard coded string over to make sure the
> JSON was not corrupt or something else:
>
> [
>     {
>         "ImageTag": "imagePath",
>         "ProductID": "540"
>     },
>     {
>         "ImageTag": "imagePath",
>         "ProductID": "83"
>     }
> ]
>
> Same result.  Firefox and the rest had no issue.  IE still exited the
> $.ajax and my error method kicked in.  No rhyme or reason whatsoever
> and I tried the IE Dev tools... nothing.  About the only thing I get
> is this:
>
> Line: 163 Error: System error: -1072896658. Line 163
>
> which is simply the line: function() { alert("An error has occurred.
> Please try again.");
>
> This has got to be the most f*d up situation I've been in and I need
> to get this working!  I just cannot understand why IE can't parse a
> getJSON or $.ajax response, that is impossible or else there would be
> a huge meltdown with jQuery.


[jQuery] IE (any version) is not parsing returned JSON via getJSON or $.ajax calls

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

I am trying out $.ajax instead of getJSON for debugging purposes.
Because getJSON did not report an error in IE (6,7 or 8) and I am
trying to figure out why a jQuery plug-in is not painting my returned
images to the screen in IE but is in other browsers.

So I tried this. Interestingly enough, it hits the error event in IE
but not firefox, safari and the rest and I don't know why (this code
works great and renders my data just fine in FireFox and the rest). I
know my returned json is valid:

$.ajax({
type: "GET",
url: "http://localhost:59396/sss/sssHandler.ashx?
action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
data: "{}",
contentType: "application/json; charset=utf-8",
dataType: "json",
success: function(data) {
alert(data.length);
carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow < numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array returned by JSON
(which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat(data
[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
},

error: function() {
alert("An error has occurred. Please try again.");
}
});

I don't know what else to do to troubleshoot why IE is having so much
trouble with the returned JSON or just executing the function(data)
using either getJSON OR this. I have set the headers not the cache
also in the response. That is not the problem. The problem is for
whatever reason, IE refuses to enter my function(data) on the
response.

Here's the returned JSON which shows valid (even checked it with
http://www.jsonlint.com/):

[
{
"ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem
\"\u003e

\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href= \"Bear-10.prod\"\u003eTeddy Bear\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp \u003e$20.95\u003c/p\u003e\u003cdiv\u003e", "ProductID": "540" }, { "ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem \"\u003e

\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href= \"Pendant362.prod\"\u003eBirthday\u003csup\u003e©\u003c/sup \u003Necklace\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e$36.95\u003c/p \u003e\u003cdiv\u003e", "ProductID": "83" } ] in my .ashx I simply have the following main code to product the response context.Response.ContentType = "application/json"; context.Response.Charset = Encoding.UTF8.ToString(); context.Response.Cache.SetNoStore(); context.Response.Cache.SetExpires(DateTime.MinValue); context.Response.Cache.SetCacheability (HttpCacheability.NoCache); context.Response.Cache.SetValidUntilExpires(false); context.Response.Expires = -1; context.Response.ExpiresAbsolute = DateTime.MinValue; context.Response.AddHeader("Cache-Control", "no-cache"); context.Response.AddHeader("Cache-Control", "post-check=0, pre- check=0"); context.Response.AddHeader("Pragma", "no-cache"); ... string jsonString = imageList.ToJSON(); <-- uses the .NET 3.5 JavaScriptSerializer context.Response.Write(jsonString); also, it doesn't seem to matter if you specify the response.ContentType as "application/json" or "text/plain" because at least I'm getting valid data in FireFox returned and parsed. I tried even sending a simple hard coded string over to make sure the JSON was not corrupt or something else: [ { "ImageTag": "imagePath", "ProductID": "540" }, { "ImageTag": "imagePath", "ProductID": "83" } ] Same result. Firefox and the rest had no issue. IE still exited the $.ajax and my error method kicked in. No rhyme or reason whatsoever and I tried the IE Dev tools... nothing. About the only thing I get is this: Line: 163 Error: System error: -1072896658. Line 163 which is simply the line: function() { alert("An error has occurred. Please try again."); This has got to be the most f*d up situation I've been in and I need to get this working! I just cannot understand why IE can't parse a getJSON or $.ajax response, that is impossible or else there would be a huge meltdown with jQuery.

[jQuery] Re: getJSON callback? does not work with querystring param

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Ok, so their sending back a json response wrapped with method foo.  So
then how would you specify foo in my example as the method to call on
the getJSON script I've created?

I think my example is fine as it is.  We're not going cross server for
now but wanted to understand how to form this and how this worked a
little more.  MK explained the response coming back, a huge part of
this!  The jQuery docs need to explain this, it's pretty inferred to
some who have done this before, but not that obvious to others that
this is how it works...that you are essentially wrapping what you are
sending back in the method that you want to call in your callback.

On Jul 6, 10:56 am, Bill Ramirez  wrote:
> If you pass a param to the json call, it gets passed into the
> querystring:
>
> $.getJSON("jsdata/customerhandler.ashx", { show: Math.random(),
> departmentId: dptId}, customerLoaded);
>
> would be rendered as:
>
> jsdata/customerhandler.ashx?show=0.23231553&departmentId=123
>
> the second parameter to the getJson function is the query string
> parameters.


[jQuery] Re: getJSON callback? does not work with querystring param

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Thanks.  I'm not following you though per my example.  I have
specified function(data) as the method

On Jul 6, 10:56 am, Bill Ramirez  wrote:
> If you pass a param to the json call, it gets passed into the
> querystring:
>
> $.getJSON("jsdata/customerhandler.ashx", { show: Math.random(),
> departmentId: dptId}, customerLoaded);
>
> would be rendered as:
>
> jsdata/customerhandler.ashx?show=0.23231553&departmentId=123
>
> the second parameter to the getJson function is the query string
> parameters.


[jQuery] Re: JCarousel not rendering added data in IE 6, 7, or 8!!!!!!!!!!!!! Works in all other browsers

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Here is the Json returned

[
{
"ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem
\"\u003e<p><img src="http://www.xxx.com/image/
2568.jpg" alt=""></p>\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=
\"Bear-10.prod\"\u003eTeddy Bear\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp
\u003e$20.95\u003c/p\u003e\u003cdiv\u003e",
"ProductID": "540"
},
{
"ImageTag": "\u003cdiv class=\"CarouselItem
\"\u003e<p><img src="http://www.xxx.com/image/
50.jpg" alt=""></p>\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=
\"Pendant362.prod\"\u003eBirthday\u003csup\u003e©\u003c/sup
\u003Necklace\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e$36.95\u003c/p
\u003e\u003cdiv\u003e",
"ProductID": "83"
}
]


On Jul 6, 11:49 am, expresso  wrote:
> Tried this instead.  Got no errors and the data painted fine in
> FireFox.  But in IE, it hit my error handler.  Again, no idea why in
> IE it's complaining.  I checked that the json returned is definitely
> valued (obviously it has to be because this data is rendering in
> FireFox and other browsers) by using the json checker 
> here:http://www.jsonlint.com/
>
>         $.ajax({
>             type: "POST",
>             url: "http://localhost:59396/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>             data: "{}",
>             contentType: "application/json; charset=utf-8",
>             dataType: "json",
>             success: function(data) {
>                 alert(data.length);
>                 carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                 if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                     first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                 }
>
>                 var d = 0;
>                 for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                     if (d != undefined) {
>                         // add data using index of the array returned
> by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                         carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                     }
>
>                     // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                     if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat(data
> [d].ProductID); }
>
>                     d++;
>                 }
>             },
>
>             error: function() {
>                 alert("An error has occurred. Please try again.");
>             }
>         });
>
> so I don't know why IE is complaining and throwing an error when it's
> working fine in FireFox, Safari, etc.!
>
> On Jul 6, 11:18 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I just tested this out with adding an alert(data.length);  In FireFox,
> > the alert comes right up.  But in IE 6,7,8, it never hits the alert:
>
> >             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> > action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
> >                 function(data) {
> >                     alert(data.length);
> >                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
> >                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> > numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
> >                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> > numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
> >                     }
>
> >                     var d = 0;
> >                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
> >                         if (d != undefined) {
> >                             // add data using index of the array
> > returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
> >                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
> >                         }
>
> >                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
> >                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> > (data[d].ProductID); }
>
> >                         d++;
> >                     }
> >                 }
> >             );
>
> > is this a jQuery bug?!?!?!?!?!!?
>
> > On Jul 6, 10:29 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > I have not been able to get my JCarousel implementation to show the
> > > added data in IE 6,7, or 8.  It works fine in all other
> > > browsers..which is just weird especially when the creator's demos all
> > > run fine in IE (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/).
>
> > > I simply added some simple Javascript logic to my own ItemLoadCallback
> > > functions and the carousel doesn't load images in IE8/IE7 or even I

[jQuery] Re: JCarousel not rendering added data in IE 6, 7, or 8!!!!!!!!!!!!! Works in all other browsers

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Tried this instead.  Got no errors and the data painted fine in
FireFox.  But in IE, it hit my error handler.  Again, no idea why in
IE it's complaining.  I checked that the json returned is definitely
valued (obviously it has to be because this data is rendering in
FireFox and other browsers) by using the json checker here:
http://www.jsonlint.com/

$.ajax({
type: "POST",
url: "http://localhost:59396/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
data: "{}",
contentType: "application/json; charset=utf-8",
dataType: "json",
success: function(data) {
alert(data.length);
carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array returned
by JSON (which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat(data
[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
},

error: function() {
alert("An error has occurred. Please try again.");
}
});

so I don't know why IE is complaining and throwing an error when it's
working fine in FireFox, Safari, etc.!

On Jul 6, 11:18 am, expresso  wrote:
> I just tested this out with adding an alert(data.length);  In FireFox,
> the alert comes right up.  But in IE 6,7,8, it never hits the alert:
>
>             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>                 function(data) {
>                     alert(data.length);
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>
> is this a jQuery bug?!?!?!?!?!!?
>
> On Jul 6, 10:29 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I have not been able to get my JCarousel implementation to show the
> > added data in IE 6,7, or 8.  It works fine in all other
> > browsers..which is just weird especially when the creator's demos all
> > run fine in IE (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/).
>
> > I simply added some simple Javascript logic to my own ItemLoadCallback
> > functions and the carousel doesn't load images in IE8/IE7 or even IE6
> > at all when it's fine in all other browsers.
>
> > I have valid JSON coming back and it's working fine in FireFox, etc.
> > otherwise I know I'd have a data parse issue.
>
> > Below is part of my itemLoadCallback method that gets the data and
> > adds it to the Carousel... which again I say my code here works fine
> > in all other browsers except IE.  I even took a look at the s
> > produced using firebug and it's definitely valid HTML that I'm seeing
> > it render in FireFox.
>
> > #mycarousel .jcarousel-item-placeholder {
> >     background: transparent url(../images/carousel/ajax-loader.gif)
> > 50% 50% no-repeat;
>
> > }
>
> > The gif above shows before the data is added (just like his example
> > here:http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html)
> > but is never replaced by the data I add in my itemLoadCallback in
> > IE!
>
> > If I have not changed how your carousel.js works, why would I have any
> > trouble with IE whatsoever if the examples on your site are running
> > fine in IE?
>
> >     function mycarousel_itemAddCallback(carousel, first, last) {
> >        

[jQuery] Re: JCarousel not rendering added data in IE 6, 7, or 8!!!!!!!!!!!!! Works in all other browsers

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

I just tested this out with adding an alert(data.length);  In FireFox,
the alert comes right up.  But in IE 6,7,8, it never hits the alert:

$.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
function(data) {
alert(data.length);
carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array
returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
(data[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
}
);

is this a jQuery bug?!?!?!?!?!!?


On Jul 6, 10:29 am, expresso  wrote:
> I have not been able to get my JCarousel implementation to show the
> added data in IE 6,7, or 8.  It works fine in all other
> browsers..which is just weird especially when the creator's demos all
> run fine in IE (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/).
>
> I simply added some simple Javascript logic to my own ItemLoadCallback
> functions and the carousel doesn't load images in IE8/IE7 or even IE6
> at all when it's fine in all other browsers.
>
> I have valid JSON coming back and it's working fine in FireFox, etc.
> otherwise I know I'd have a data parse issue.
>
> Below is part of my itemLoadCallback method that gets the data and
> adds it to the Carousel... which again I say my code here works fine
> in all other browsers except IE.  I even took a look at the s
> produced using firebug and it's definitely valid HTML that I'm seeing
> it render in FireFox.
>
> #mycarousel .jcarousel-item-placeholder {
>     background: transparent url(../images/carousel/ajax-loader.gif)
> 50% 50% no-repeat;
>
> }
>
> The gif above shows before the data is added (just like his example
> here:http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html)
> but is never replaced by the data I add in my itemLoadCallback in
> IE!
>
> If I have not changed how your carousel.js works, why would I have any
> trouble with IE whatsoever if the examples on your site are running
> fine in IE?
>
>     function mycarousel_itemAddCallback(carousel, first, last) {
>         // grab product information
>         if (ids != 0) {
>             $.getJSON("http://xxx/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>                 function(data) {
>
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>         }
>     };
>
> I don't have a live server to show you this, I'm in dev right now
> testing this out before we try to roll it live.  Obviously I'm stumped
> here on the IE issue pertaining to my implementation and I don't see
> myself doing anything strange that would cause this not to run in IE!
>
> I'm desperate for some help on this.  I cannot get a hold of Jan, the
> creator.


[jQuery] Re: getJSON callback? does not work with querystring param

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Adding a "&jsoncallback=?" or "&callback=?" got rid of the Access to
restricted URI denied" code: "1012 but I get no data showing in my
plug-in when adding either of those querystring params to my url.  So
I don't get it.  I thought that it's supposed to automatically
replace ? with function(data) in my case??  Do I need to send
something back in the response or something??  I ask because certain
APIs such as yahoo require an _ in front.  But so does this mean I
also need to supply something in my json response?  I thought all you
need to do is just add the callback param in your request.

On Jul 6, 9:44 am, expresso  wrote:
> This works fine:
>
>             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
> CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>                 function(data) {
>
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>
> This does not work, I get no pictures rendered after trying to add the
> &format=json&jsoncallback=? :
>
>             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
> CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids +
> "&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
>                 function(data) {
>
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>
> Same for here, calling to our dev server.
>
> $.getJSON("http://xxxdev/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids + "&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
>                 function(data) {
>
> No idea why.  No errors, nothing.


[jQuery] JCarousel not rendering added data in IE 6, 7, or 8!!!!!!!!!!!!! Works in all other browsers

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

I have not been able to get my JCarousel implementation to show the
added data in IE 6,7, or 8.  It works fine in all other
browsers..which is just weird especially when the creator's demos all
run fine in IE (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/).

I simply added some simple Javascript logic to my own ItemLoadCallback
functions and the carousel doesn't load images in IE8/IE7 or even IE6
at all when it's fine in all other browsers.

I have valid JSON coming back and it's working fine in FireFox, etc.
otherwise I know I'd have a data parse issue.

Below is part of my itemLoadCallback method that gets the data and
adds it to the Carousel... which again I say my code here works fine
in all other browsers except IE.  I even took a look at the s
produced using firebug and it's definitely valid HTML that I'm seeing
it render in FireFox.

#mycarousel .jcarousel-item-placeholder {
background: transparent url(../images/carousel/ajax-loader.gif)
50% 50% no-repeat;
}


The gif above shows before the data is added (just like his example
here: http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/dynamic_flickr_api.html)
but is never replaced by the data I add in my itemLoadCallback in
IE!

If I have not changed how your carousel.js works, why would I have any
trouble with IE whatsoever if the examples on your site are running
fine in IE?

function mycarousel_itemAddCallback(carousel, first, last) {
// grab product information
if (ids != 0) {
$.getJSON("http://xxx/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
function(data) {

carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array
returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
(data[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
}
);
}
};

I don't have a live server to show you this, I'm in dev right now
testing this out before we try to roll it live.  Obviously I'm stumped
here on the IE issue pertaining to my implementation and I don't see
myself doing anything strange that would cause this not to run in IE!

I'm desperate for some help on this.  I cannot get a hold of Jan, the
creator.


[jQuery] Re: getJSON callback? does not work with querystring param

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

Adding a "&jsoncallback=?" or "&callback=?" got rid of the Access to
restricted URI denied" code: "1012 but I get no data showing in my
plug-in when adding either of those querystring params to my url.  So
I don't get it.  I thought that it's supposed to automatically
replace ? with function(data) in my case??  Do I need to send
something back in the response or something??  I ask because certain
APIs such as yahoo require an _ in front.  But so does this mean I
also need to supply something in my json response?  I thought all you
need to do is just add the callback param in your request.

On Jul 6, 9:44 am, expresso  wrote:
> This works fine:
>
>             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
> CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
>                 function(data) {
>
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>
> This does not work, I get no pictures rendered after trying to add the
> &format=json&jsoncallback=? :
>
>             $.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
> CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids +
> "&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
>                 function(data) {
>
>                     carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);
>
>                     if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
> numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
>                         first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
> numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
>                     }
>
>                     var d = 0;
>                     for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {
>
>                         if (d != undefined) {
>                             // add data using index of the array
> returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
>                             carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
>                         }
>
>                         // set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
>                         if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
> (data[d].ProductID); }
>
>                         d++;
>                     }
>                 }
>             );
>
> Same for here, calling to our dev server.
>
> $.getJSON("http://xxxdev/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
> action=getproducts&ids=" + ids + "&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
>                 function(data) {
>
> No idea why.  No errors, nothing.


[jQuery] getJSON callback? does not work with querystring param

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

This works fine:

$.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids,
function(data) {

carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array
returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
(data[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
}
);

This does not work, I get no pictures rendered after trying to add the
&format=json&jsoncallback=? :

$.getJSON("http://localhost:59396/xxxWeb/
CarouselHandler.ashx?action=getproducts&ids=" + ids +
"&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
function(data) {

carousel.size(allProductIDs.length);

if (numberOfImagesLeftToShow <
numberOfImagesToDisplay) {
first += (numberOfImagesToDisplay -
numberOfImagesLeftToShow);
}

var d = 0;
for (var i = first; i <= last; i++) {

if (d != undefined) {
// add data using index of the array
returned by JSON (which starts at 0)
carousel.add(i, decode(data[d].ImageTag));
}

// set to last ProductID showing in Carousel
if (i == last) { lastProductID = parseFloat
(data[d].ProductID); }

d++;
}
}
);

Same for here, calling to our dev server.

$.getJSON("http://xxxdev/xxx/CarouselHandler.ashx?
action=getproducts&ids=" + ids + "&format=json&jsoncallback=?",
function(data) {

No idea why.  No errors, nothing.


[jQuery] Re: JCarousel not rendering images in IE

2009-07-06 Thread expresso

The examples seem to work fine on http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/
but for some reason my implementation shows the placeholders but no
images are rendered.  I looked at the mark-up and the html is fine.
It works in FireFox, Safari, and Chrome just fine and so it's weird
that my implementation would be any different in rendering in IE 8
especially when I haven't even touched the source nor the .css except
for making the carousel wider which has nothing to do with this
problem.  Even when I take out the style sheet changes I made (Which
are only 2) and use the same base style sheet they are using that has
worked in IE 8 with their examples, mine still does not render the
images.

here's example source.  But I don't think the source is the issue, it
might be something in the carousel .js.  I don't get it.












http://www.xxx.com/image/256.jpg"/>



$20.95









































On Jul 2, 12:12 am, expresso  wrote:
> Has anyone had a problem where JCarousel does not render images in IE
> 8 but works fine in FF?


[jQuery] Remove an

2009-07-05 Thread expresso

I want to remove the following  and any after that which have the
class jcarousel-item-placeholder in them



I'm not sure how to go about this.


[jQuery] Re: Replace div with another div

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

Richard, I have a reason for wanting to do this other than the default
behavior.  Anyhow, I got this working without having to do any of this
in the end!

On Jul 2, 7:59 pm, Ricardo  wrote:
> Are you sure you need to do that? The button is disabled when you get
> to the first/last item, if you add new items following the documented
> ways it is completely 
> unnecessary:http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/#Dynamic-Content-Loading
>
> -- ricardo
>
> On Jul 2, 11:45 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I want to replace it with  which is what the carousel code replaces it
> > with anyway when the button IS enabled..I just viewed the source to
> > see that.
>
> > On Jul 2, 9:42 am, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > Charlie, I just plan on using an ID or class that's already in that
> > > div to reference it.  For example:
> > >  > > disabled="true"/>
>
> > > why couldn't I do something like $(".jcarousel-prev jcarousel-prev-
> > > horizontal jcarousel-prev-
> > > disabled jcarousel-prev-disabled-horizontal").replaceWith(' > > class="jcarousel-prev jcarousel-prev-horizontal" style="display:
> > > block;" disabled="false"/>');
>
> > > On Jul 2, 9:04 am, Charlie  wrote:
>
> > > > one problem you'll likely run into completely replacing that div
> > > > even though the html and classes will fit in with the carousel you 
> > > > could have problems due to no events attached to new div from document 
> > > > ready
> > > >  Giovanni Battista Lenoci wrote:
> > > > expresso ha scritto:I'm trying to figure out how I'd explicitely change 
> > > > out a div.
> > > > Lets say this div is in the page.  I guess first I'd have to verify if
> > > > it's in the page:
> > > >  > > > disabled="true"/>
> > > > And if it is, I want to remove it and add this in the same place:
> > > > 
> > > > I have not a clue how to do this.
> > > >  If give a unique id to the div (or you have a rule to get it, for 
> > > > example $('#mycontainer > div'));
> > > > You can do:
> > > > $('#id').replaceWith('my newmarkup!');
> > > > If the selector doesn't return nothing then nothing will be replaced.
> > > > Bye


[jQuery] Re: Changed attributes on . Now I get no event

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

one more time:

jQuery(document).ready(function()
{
$('#mycarousel').jcarousel({
itemLoadCallback: mycarousel_itemLoadCallback,
buttonNextCallback:  mycarousel_nextItemCallback
});
});

On Jul 2, 3:23 pm, expresso  wrote:
> for the JCarousel (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/), I
> attempted to keep my next button enabled.  Currently, it only becomes
> enabled if you have more items (images) added to the carousel than
> it's currently showing (visible when you look at the carousel).
>
> For us, we want to be be abe to control this because I don't want to
> have to add an extra item(s) just to get the button to be clickable so
> that we can load the next set of images.
>
> So I tried this:
>
>     jQuery(document).ready(function()
>     {
>         $('#mycarousel').jcarousel({
>         itemLoadCallback: mycarousel_itemLoadCallback
>         });
>     });
>
>     function mycarousel_nextItemCallback()
>     {
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").attr({ disabled: "false" });
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-
> disabled");
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-disabled-
> horizontal");
>
>         jQuery('#jcarousel-next').bind('click', function() {
>             carousel.next();
>             return false;
>         });
>     };
>
> everything seems to work out fine.  Except when I click on the next
> button that appears enabled on first load (even if I did not specify a
> size > than what is showing), nothing happens.  It's like it doesn't
> know that div or something exists.


[jQuery] Re: Changed attributes on . Now I get no event

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

posting error, should be itemLoadCallback:
mycarousel_nextItemLoadCallback which is what I have currently.

On Jul 2, 3:23 pm, expresso  wrote:
> for the JCarousel (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/), I
> attempted to keep my next button enabled.  Currently, it only becomes
> enabled if you have more items (images) added to the carousel than
> it's currently showing (visible when you look at the carousel).
>
> For us, we want to be be abe to control this because I don't want to
> have to add an extra item(s) just to get the button to be clickable so
> that we can load the next set of images.
>
> So I tried this:
>
>     jQuery(document).ready(function()
>     {
>         $('#mycarousel').jcarousel({
>         itemLoadCallback: mycarousel_itemLoadCallback
>         });
>     });
>
>     function mycarousel_nextItemCallback()
>     {
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").attr({ disabled: "false" });
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-
> disabled");
>         jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-disabled-
> horizontal");
>
>         jQuery('#jcarousel-next').bind('click', function() {
>             carousel.next();
>             return false;
>         });
>     };
>
> everything seems to work out fine.  Except when I click on the next
> button that appears enabled on first load (even if I did not specify a
> size > than what is showing), nothing happens.  It's like it doesn't
> know that div or something exists.


[jQuery] Changed attributes on . Now I get no event

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

for the JCarousel (http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/), I
attempted to keep my next button enabled.  Currently, it only becomes
enabled if you have more items (images) added to the carousel than
it's currently showing (visible when you look at the carousel).

For us, we want to be be abe to control this because I don't want to
have to add an extra item(s) just to get the button to be clickable so
that we can load the next set of images.

So I tried this:

jQuery(document).ready(function()
{
$('#mycarousel').jcarousel({
itemLoadCallback: mycarousel_itemLoadCallback
});
});

function mycarousel_nextItemCallback()
{
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").attr({ disabled: "false" });
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-
disabled");
jQuery(".jcarousel-next").removeClass("jcarousel-next-disabled-
horizontal");

jQuery('#jcarousel-next').bind('click', function() {
carousel.next();
return false;
});
};

everything seems to work out fine.  Except when I click on the next
button that appears enabled on first load (even if I did not specify a
size > than what is showing), nothing happens.  It's like it doesn't
know that div or something exists.


[jQuery] Re: var $varname

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

Ah!  makes sense.  Because a lot of times I can't distinguish between
something in plain JavaScript and something that is a jQuery object.
Good to know.  I'll make sure I do the same once I start really
getting on board with the jQuery syntax.  It's a VERY good practice on
variables and so I wonder is there a "Best Practices For jQuery" on
the jquery site that I'm missing?  that would be awesome if there
was.  If not, how about someone start one and have it be either
moderated or have the best practices come straight from the jQuery
team.  Accept request to put in a new standard and have the team
approve/disapprove.

this kind of stuff would help people like me tremendously to help me
ramp up quicker for newbies like me who wonder wtf is going on when
things like this are in place such as the example question I just
proposed.

On Jul 2, 1:57 pm, James  wrote:
> Yep, as MorningZ said, it's a good practice to use it to differentiate
> those that are storing a jQuery object.
>
> $myDiv = $("#div_1");
> $myDiv.hide();
>
> It's easier to tell that you're working with a jQuery object.
> Otherwise, it's just a regular variable.
>
> On Jul 2, 8:51 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > "obviously I think 2nd is a jQuery variable?  If that's the case why
> > should I care and where is the docs on that? "
>
> > It just seems to be common practice by a lot of jQuery people smarter
> > than us to signify it's a jQuery object stored in that variable, it
> > has zero to do with jQuery itself per se
>
> > On Jul 2, 2:29 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
>
> > > Just to addon to what Waseem here has said:
>
> > > When you are using the default jQuery library, the variable $ is set to 
> > > the
> > > value of jQuery, which creates a shortcut for you so that you don't have 
> > > to
> > > keep typing jQuery everytime you want to access it, you can just type $.
>
> > > cheers
>
> > > Michael Lawson
> > > Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> > > Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> > > E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> > > 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If 
> > > you
> > > find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> > > or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
> > >   From:       waseem sabjee                       
> > >                                                       
>
> > >   To:         jquery-en@googlegroups.com                                  
> > >                                                       
>
> > >   Date:       07/02/2009 02:26 PM                                         
> > >                                                        
>
> > >   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: var $varname                                   
> > >                                                        
>
> > > its not really a jquery variable
>
> > > in standard js you can say
> > > var $myvar = "hello";
> > > and
> > > var myvar = "hello";
>
> > > both will work the same
>
> > > you can access jquery using either the $ or  JQuery
> > > like
>
> > > $("#myid").hide();
> > > JQuery("#myid").hide();
>
> > > in a line of the JQuery library code you would see something like
>
> > > JQuery = window.JQuery = window.$ ...
>
> > > your could say its like short hand code
>
> > > instead of saying JQuery("") al the time you can just say $("")
>
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:18 PM, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >   what's the difference between:
>
> > >   var varname
>
> > >   var $varname
>
> > >   obviously I think 2nd is a jQuery variable?  If that's the case why
> > >   should I care and where is the docs on that?
>
> > >  graycol.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  ecblank.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload


[jQuery] Re: var $varname

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

I understand the shortcut.  But in this example, it appears to just be
a variable here.  So why did they even bother putting a $ in front of
it! ??

On Jul 2, 1:57 pm, James  wrote:
> Yep, as MorningZ said, it's a good practice to use it to differentiate
> those that are storing a jQuery object.
>
> $myDiv = $("#div_1");
> $myDiv.hide();
>
> It's easier to tell that you're working with a jQuery object.
> Otherwise, it's just a regular variable.
>
> On Jul 2, 8:51 am, MorningZ  wrote:
>
> > "obviously I think 2nd is a jQuery variable?  If that's the case why
> > should I care and where is the docs on that? "
>
> > It just seems to be common practice by a lot of jQuery people smarter
> > than us to signify it's a jQuery object stored in that variable, it
> > has zero to do with jQuery itself per se
>
> > On Jul 2, 2:29 pm, Michael Lawson  wrote:
>
> > > Just to addon to what Waseem here has said:
>
> > > When you are using the default jQuery library, the variable $ is set to 
> > > the
> > > value of jQuery, which creates a shortcut for you so that you don't have 
> > > to
> > > keep typing jQuery everytime you want to access it, you can just type $.
>
> > > cheers
>
> > > Michael Lawson
> > > Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> > > Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> > > E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> > > 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If 
> > > you
> > > find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> > > or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
> > >   From:       waseem sabjee                       
> > >                                                       
>
> > >   To:         jquery-en@googlegroups.com                                  
> > >                                                       
>
> > >   Date:       07/02/2009 02:26 PM                                         
> > >                                                        
>
> > >   Subject:    [jQuery] Re: var $varname                                   
> > >                                                        
>
> > > its not really a jquery variable
>
> > > in standard js you can say
> > > var $myvar = "hello";
> > > and
> > > var myvar = "hello";
>
> > > both will work the same
>
> > > you can access jquery using either the $ or  JQuery
> > > like
>
> > > $("#myid").hide();
> > > JQuery("#myid").hide();
>
> > > in a line of the JQuery library code you would see something like
>
> > > JQuery = window.JQuery = window.$ ...
>
> > > your could say its like short hand code
>
> > > instead of saying JQuery("") al the time you can just say $("")
>
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:18 PM, expresso  wrote:
>
> > >   what's the difference between:
>
> > >   var varname
>
> > >   var $varname
>
> > >   obviously I think 2nd is a jQuery variable?  If that's the case why
> > >   should I care and where is the docs on that?
>
> > >  graycol.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload
>
> > >  ecblank.gif
> > > < 1KViewDownload


[jQuery] var $varname

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

what's the difference between:

var varname

var $varname

obviously I think 2nd is a jQuery variable?  If that's the case why
should I care and where is the docs on that?


[jQuery] Re: Question on : syntax

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

what is meant by a namespace.  I view namespace as like in .NET
classes, is this the same concept?

On Jul 2, 1:10 pm, expresso  wrote:
> Thanks a lot.  The second response really helped me as I'm not so
> versed in hard core JavaScript.  Obviously not being that well versed
> in it is hindering my ability to understand plug-in code, ability to
> distinguish between standard JavaScript notation/features vs. jQuery
> in the same file, and ability to understand jQuery a bit also.
>
> migrane every day until I get this stuff down, not as simply as
> everyone says.  Yea jQuery is simple once you are a master at
> JavaScript and master of the jQuery language!  I love that claim.
>
> On Jul 2, 1:00 pm, waseem sabjee  wrote:
>
> > lets go back to basic JavaScript.
> > take this example
>
> > var display = function() { // create namespace display
>
> > return {
>
> > hide : function(o) { // add function hide to namepsace
> > var obj = document.getElementById(o);
> > if(obj.style.display != 'none') {
> > obj.style.display = 'none'
>
> > }
> > },
>
> > show : function(o) { // add function show to namespace
> > var obj = document.getElementById(o);
> > if(obj.style.display = 'none') {
> > obj.style.display = 'block'
>
> > }
> > }
> > };
> > }();
>
> > function init() {
> > display.hide("mydiv");
> > setTimeout("display.show('mydiv'), 1000);}
>
> > window.onload = init;
>
> > it is a more object orientated way of scripting
>
> > as you can see i created my own namespace called display
> > then i assigned two function to it
> > display.hide
> > and
> > display.show
>
> > so you can say your are creating your own namespae with it's own set of
> > functions.
> > the cool thing is if i create a namespace that controls sideshow behavior i
> > can reuse my display namespace for the hide show transitions.
>
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM, expresso  wrote:
>
> > > I have yet another syntax question.
>
> > > I know that : can be used for specifying things like filters, but what
> > > does it do in this case:
>
> > >    $jc.fn.extend({
>
> > >        setup: function() {
> > >            this.first     = null;
> > >            this.last      = null;
> > >            this.prevFirst = null;
> > >            this.prevLast  = null;
> > >            this.animating = false;
> > >            this.timer     = null;
> > >            this.tail      = null;
> > >            this.inTail    = false;
>
> > >            if (this.locked)
> > >                return;
>
> > >            this.list.css(this.lt, this.pos(this.options.offset) +
> > > 'px');
> > >            ...rest of code here
> > >        },
>
> > > so what is the syntax setup:    an attribute?


[jQuery] Re: Question on : syntax

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

Thanks a lot.  The second response really helped me as I'm not so
versed in hard core JavaScript.  Obviously not being that well versed
in it is hindering my ability to understand plug-in code, ability to
distinguish between standard JavaScript notation/features vs. jQuery
in the same file, and ability to understand jQuery a bit also.

migrane every day until I get this stuff down, not as simply as
everyone says.  Yea jQuery is simple once you are a master at
JavaScript and master of the jQuery language!  I love that claim.

On Jul 2, 1:00 pm, waseem sabjee  wrote:
> lets go back to basic JavaScript.
> take this example
>
> var display = function() { // create namespace display
>
> return {
>
> hide : function(o) { // add function hide to namepsace
> var obj = document.getElementById(o);
> if(obj.style.display != 'none') {
> obj.style.display = 'none'
>
> }
> },
>
> show : function(o) { // add function show to namespace
> var obj = document.getElementById(o);
> if(obj.style.display = 'none') {
> obj.style.display = 'block'
>
> }
> }
> };
> }();
>
> function init() {
> display.hide("mydiv");
> setTimeout("display.show('mydiv'), 1000);}
>
> window.onload = init;
>
> it is a more object orientated way of scripting
>
> as you can see i created my own namespace called display
> then i assigned two function to it
> display.hide
> and
> display.show
>
> so you can say your are creating your own namespae with it's own set of
> functions.
> the cool thing is if i create a namespace that controls sideshow behavior i
> can reuse my display namespace for the hide show transitions.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM, expresso  wrote:
>
> > I have yet another syntax question.
>
> > I know that : can be used for specifying things like filters, but what
> > does it do in this case:
>
> >    $jc.fn.extend({
>
> >        setup: function() {
> >            this.first     = null;
> >            this.last      = null;
> >            this.prevFirst = null;
> >            this.prevLast  = null;
> >            this.animating = false;
> >            this.timer     = null;
> >            this.tail      = null;
> >            this.inTail    = false;
>
> >            if (this.locked)
> >                return;
>
> >            this.list.css(this.lt, this.pos(this.options.offset) +
> > 'px');
> >            ...rest of code here
> >        },
>
> > so what is the syntax setup:    an attribute?


[jQuery] Question on : syntax

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

I have yet another syntax question.

I know that : can be used for specifying things like filters, but what
does it do in this case:

$jc.fn.extend({

setup: function() {
this.first = null;
this.last  = null;
this.prevFirst = null;
this.prevLast  = null;
this.animating = false;
this.timer = null;
this.tail  = null;
this.inTail= false;

if (this.locked)
return;

this.list.css(this.lt, this.pos(this.options.offset) +
'px');
...rest of code here
},

so what is the syntax setup:an attribute?


[jQuery] 2 different ways of doing the same thing?

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

Would this not be 2 different ways to do the same thing?

$('input:not(:checkbox));

vs.

$('input').not(:checkbox);


[jQuery] Re: Syntax Explanation

2009-07-02 Thread expresso

Thanks.

so   $jc.fn = $jc.prototype

$jc is just the entire object and .fn is just a variable/field that
was created somewhere else in the code?

On Jul 2, 9:44 am, Michael Lawson  wrote:
> this notation $.jcarousel means you want to access that field, whether it
> be to set it to something else, or read the contents.
> this notation in javascript     jcarousel: '0.2.3'    is setting a key
> value pair where jcaraousel is the key and 0.2.3 is the  value
>
> does that make sense?
>
> cheers
>
> Michael Lawson
> Development Lead, Global Solutions, ibm.com
> Phone:  1-276-206-8393
> E-mail:  mjlaw...@us.ibm.com
>
> 'Examine my teachings critically, as a gold assayer would test gold. If you
> find they make sense, conform to your experience, and don't harm yourself
> or others, only then should you accept them.'
>
>   From:       expresso                                   
>                                                   
>
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>   Date:       07/02/2009 10:23 AM                                             
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>   Subject:    [jQuery] Syntax Explanation                                     
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> jQuery right now is still like a foreign language to me.  I have
> books, etc. but can someone tell me what's going on here:
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>     // Create shortcut for internal use
>     var $jc = $.jcarousel;
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>     $jc.fn = $jc.prototype = {
>         jcarousel: '0.2.3'
>     };
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> what is prototype, and what is jcarousel: '0.2.3', is that just
> setting some other variable's value?
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