RE: [lace] taste of cattern cakes
it has been done before, but would it be possible for someone(s) to post a recipe for Cattern Cakes, for us who have never gotten to it to try? Perhaps this will be the year! Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of bev walker > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:58 PM > To: lace > Subject: [lace] taste of cattern cakes > > Hi everyone > > What are "Cattern Cakes" supposed to look and taste like? e.g. are > they > supposed to be crisp? crumbly? soft? do they really look like > pinwheels? > mine haven't been) I have tried to convert the English recipe to N. > American > measures, and haven't yet had a particularly tasty nor attractive > result. > I've quite a few references to the recipe, but never a picture with. > I suppose being that they were a special treat for those who seldom had > sweets or baking, in times past it wouldn't matter what the cakes > looked > like as long as they were a change from plain fare. > > Our flours and rising agents aren't quite the same, and should I soak > the > dried currants first? > > I'm asking because I thought they would be nice to serve on a platter > lined > with a handmade lace doily (with clear film over the doily) to take to > the > next lace meeting. But not if they are going to fall apart like the > batch I > tried last year :( > > -- > Bev, who likes food, and lace, in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful > Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] fine linen & Nottingham
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Julie Ourom > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:04 PM > To: Lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] fine linen > > > > And heres a lace quote I came across recently: > > ...not to have remembered that though Nottingham to two-thirds of > Britain > may mean lace, to the other third it means racing. > > From The man in the queue by Josephine Tey And to many it means first and foremost something else: Pam. For all of her contributions to the lacemakers of the English speaking world and beyond. Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: midlands bobbins and spangling
Since the "why" of Midlands bobbins is lodged firmly in the realm of speculation, here are a few more thoughts that I don't see expressed on the list: I don't think the spangles have anything at all to do with weight for tensioning. Across the continent, you see many very fine laces made with relatively heavy bobbins (relative to, say, Honiton or even a Midlands with no spangles). The lacemakers handled the situation just fine. More to the point, is there any situation that you can think of where it is possible for the bobbin itself to tension the threads? In my experience it is always necessary to use my hands. Further, I can't think of a lace that I've made where the weight of the bobbin has caused the threads to break, or where the lightness of the bobbins has caused the threads to become untensioned. The theory that I prefer is the evolutionary one: someone somewhere wanted to present a special bobbin, and so carved it. And somehow the idea of adorning these everyday working tools was born and spread, leading to more and more elaborate carving, then the adding of a token or a bead at the bottom (and I've seen a continental or two thus adorned, which indicates the universal appeal of the idea). So there's another speculative and unproveable theory for Midlands bobbins. Chose the one you like, and let that be your explanation. As long as you don't say that lace is made by winding thread around pins, I'll like it. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:00 AM > To: Arachne > Subject: [lace] Re: midlands bobbins and spangling > > As for why Midlands bobbins are spangled, my theory has been it's > because so many were made of bone. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Midlands bobbins - handspun thread
Also, the staple of linen thread was much much longer than today, so it was far stronger than any thread that is now available. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of bev walker > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:36 PM > To: M. L. Mouzon > Cc: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Midlands bobbins - handspun thread > > So amazing, when I examined an old, old lace under a linen tester, to > realize the lace was made of handspun singles (linen). Well, we work > with what we have, and whatever we do a lot of, we get good at, such > as when handspinning was the norm. The industry of flax was in its > heyday and a suitable pace of life along with it. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Midlands bobbins - spangling
Why would the change in the direction of the spinning make it advantageous for the bobbins not to roll? In fact, I don't particularly find any noticeable difference in the thread's tendency to untwist when I compare my experience with the two kinds of bobbins. If I use continental bobbins, they roll, but they roll back and forth each way and remain balanced in most cases. If I use Midlands, I think I must have some habit of turning the bobbin in my hand each time I pick it up and put it down, because a fair number will become untwisted, and I'll have to retwist. That, by the way, is my secret to never having to deal with broken threads in my work. Keep an eye out for the ornery critter that becomes untwisted, twist it again, and it will be fine. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of M. L. Mouzon > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:55 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Midlands bobbins - spangling > > I was of the same impression. I'm not sure exactly where I'd heard it, > but I think it was Christine Springett (just in a conversation at a > Lace > Day) > That is another area of lacemaking that has always amazed me...to think > that the fine threads we have seen in old lace was EVER hand spun!!! > Debbie in Florida > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jean Leader wrote: > > The suggestion I've heard for spangles on English Midlands bobbins is > > that these lacemakers were the first to use machine-spun thread - a > > reasonable surmise as they were living close to where the first > > spinning machines were invented. The twist on the machine-spun thread > > was different from that on the hand-spun (tighter? opposite > > direction?) and the spangles helped to stop the bobbins rolling > around > > on the pillow. I can't remember now where this came from but it seems > > as good a suggestion as any other. > > > > Jean in Glasgow where it's a holiday weekend and the sun is shining > > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Miss Channer
Interesting. There is a very famous university in these parts, which has an art museum. It recently loaned a painting, valued at a few million, to another institution. I believe it was a Leger. When the painting was returned, its "home" museum didn't unpack the crate for a few months. When a faculty member was ready to bring around her students, as was her custom, it was discovered that crate and painting were missing. It is believed that the crate was discarded by workmen who assumed it was empty. Anyway, the painting is missing, and the art museum director has resigned. And the faculty member will no longer be recommending to her friends and colleagues that they loan or donate art to the museum. I have had lace bobbins neatly cut off my pillow (just two, side by side, very neat) at a workshop. It hurts too much to think that a fellow lacemaker would do such a thing, so I prefer to believe that it was an impulse that overtook someone casually passing through the room, either a guest at the hotel, or one of the hotel staff. I also have lost a mat edged with Binche that I took with me when demonstrating. I like to take nice lace along, thinking it may inspire a new lacemaker or two. When I think about it, despite the value that I placed on that lace due to the time and effort it took to work, and that it was a lovely design, I'm so grateful that I didn't lose the Bucks wedding fan that I had made for my daughter's wedding. The upshot is that I no longer take anything that I consider irreplaceable or very valuable. Even less valuable items I cover up, tie down, put away, etc. etc. Sad, but life eventually knocks some sense into even the most naïve of us. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Clay Blackwell > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:01 PM > To: Lynn Scott > Cc: 'Arachne' > Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Miss Channer > > Now THERE's a sad story!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Miss Warren
I suspect you could rule out both Mary (widow) and Elizabeth who is listed as married, as these two would have been "Mrs. Warren". Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Malvary J Cole > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:32 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Miss Warren > > "Cherry Knobloch" asked: "The lace maker on the cover is identified as > Miss > Warren, of Stoke Goldington. Does anyone know anything about this > woman?" > > > A quick check at the 1901 census for the name Warren and Stoke > Goldington > lists about 7 families with the name Warren. > > 3 ladies Elizabeth (55) married; daughter Rebecca (34) single; and Mary > A > (84) widow are shown on the census as being Lacemakers. I don't know > the > age of the photo nor how old the lady looks in the photo. Perhaps > guestimating the age in relation to when the book was first published > might > give an idea of which of the Warren ladies it could possibly be. > > Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's capital), Canada > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Newsletter
It may depend on state law. In Massachusetts, I once had a $17.80 purchase (debit card) turn into a $178.00 purchase. It took me a year and a half to straighten it out. The Office of Consumer Affairs of the Attorney General's office advised me to use the debit card as a credit card, as my liability would then be limited to $50 in any case. But since merchants have to pay a fee if you use your debit card as a credit card, they are less "welcoming" to that use. You have to specify that you want to use it as a credit card. As Lori mentioned, the purchase goes through immediately and is posted to the account -- the same way as a debit card. However, I have that extra protection against fraudulent use. Of course, this is just one state. I believe that laws in the UK are less consumer-friendly, and I guard my Barclay's card with my life. Worth checking into. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Lorri Ferguson > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:36 AM > Cc: Arachne > Subject: Re: [lace] Newsletter > > Brenda and all, > > Here in the USA, I was advised by my bank teller that using a > 'debit card' > was the safest because it is the easiest to cancel if there is a > problem > later. And canceling the debit card does not cancel the account it is > linked > to. > We have 'debit cards' with numbers just like a credit card. One > gives the > vendor the debit card number not the bank account number. The card is > used > just like a credit card but you are not giving the vendor your checking > account number. I use one like this for ordering drugs through the > mail, > etc. > > Lorri > Washington State, USA, in the foothills of Mt. Rainier - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] The Lace Reader
Hi Jeri, and all, I never got as far as locating any descriptions of lace making. I'm afraid I knew immediately it wasn't to my taste -- I love mysteries, but I'm definitely not very interested in supernatural phenomena. I just don't relate, so I couldn't get into the book. I doubt that there's been any revision of the lacemaking techniques described (in fact, now you've made me curious so I suppose I'll have to at least skim the thing -- does she say you wind threads around pins??). But it was very nice to see my friend making her lace in the video. She definitely is showing lacemaking as it should be done (or I should say, one of the ways). Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:03 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] The Lace Reader > > Dear Lace Friends Who Enjoy Reading, > > Last Fall, my local independent book shop owner gave me a William > Morrow > preview copy of this book, which I read carefully. I decided not to > write about > it to Arachne, because the description of how the lace was made so > drastically differed from the correct method of making lace. There was > a full-page > "author's disclaimer" which I thought would lead to confusion. > Hopefully, the > connection with Ipswich that Carolyn Hastings has written about, and > the > involvement of Linda Lane (New England Lace Group) has led to > improvements. > > In February, Lacefairy sent me a report that I will summarize - from > David > Mehegan of The Boston Globe, dated Januiary 13, 2008, titled "Salem > author > self-publishes herself into a novel $2 million payday": > > "With a draft of her novel completed, Brunonia Barry of Salem wanted to > find > an audience. But instead of chasing after publishers - often a > discouraging > task for any new author - she and her husband took a different tack. > They > published 'The Lace Reader' on their own. > > "Then something amazing happened: Buzz exploded around the book, both > online > and in stores, and mainstream publishers came calling. In October, a > literary auction was held, and Barry sold the book, and a future one, > for more than > $2 million." > > etc. etc. > > "The intricate narrative centers on a young woman who has the power to > read > the future in the patterns of Ipswich lace. The woman returns to Salem > from > California when her beloved aunt dies, perhaps by foul play. As a > local > police officer becomes involved with her while investigating the case, > a variety > of characters embroider the increasingly strange mystery." > > This newspaper account goes on for 2 1/2 pages of printed information. > Perhaps it (and more background information) can be found on the > internet. I'm > sending just a fraction that you may find interesting. > > Jeri Ames > Lace and Embroidery Resource Center > > > > > > **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] The Lace Reader
I think that the £33 would be for the used, "collector's" copy, right? It is much less for the current trade publication. And as we all know, Le Pompe is still available at Ruth Bean (a nice new, clean copy) for its original price. Now, more than ever, buyer beware. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Diana Smith > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:17 PM > To: Arachne > Subject: [lace] The Lace Reader > > I bought the paperback book from Amazon in January 2008. I must confess > I > found it a little strange but the lace link was irresistible and she > had > done her homework well. > > I see its now selling on Amazon for £33 upwards - how can they justify > that > sort of price? > > By the way the Le Pompe 1559 book by Santina Levey and Pat Payne is on > eBay - 'buy it now' for £75!! > > Diana in Northants > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] The Lace Reader
That is so interesting. Good for her (the author). I'll bet they make a movie. I looked up to see what I could find about the publishing history. The earlier edition was published by "Flap Jacket Press". From their web site: "Flap Jacket Press is an independent press located in New England and specializing in authors who root their work in the locales, history, and peoples of New England. Our current title (due out September 1, 2007) is The Lace Reader. For more information about this book, please visit www.LaceReader.com." I was given a review copy to look over in May, but I'm afraid it wasn't at all to my taste. But I love to see lace and lace making getting some publicity. And it benefits the Ipswich Historical Society's Museum, too. I believe they are planning an exhibit around lace (and using the book in some way). Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Agnes Boddington > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:54 PM > To: Betsy Sykes; lace > Subject: Re: [lace] The Lace Reader > > This book ws discussed on Arachne about a year ago, and I went and > bought it. > Great read, not too much lace, but it does play a background role to > the > events. > > Agnes Boddington > Ellougthon UK > > Betsy Sykes wrote: > > >Dear Spiders, > > > >I read an advance copy of The Lace Reader a couple of months ago and > thoroughly enjoyed it! Would recommend it to anyone who enjoys a good > mystery. > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace novel
Interesting story. I'd never heard anything about the novel being self published first. I'll bet that a movie comes out of it. I see that the used copies are paper back, published by "Flap Jacket Press". This is what I found on their web site: " Flap Jacket Press is an independent press located in New England and specializing in authors who root their work in the locales, history, and peoples of New England. Our current title (due out September 1, 2007) is The Lace Reader. For more information about this book, please visit www.LaceReader.com." I was given a review copy to look over in May, but I'm afraid it wasn't at all to my taste. But it's a nice thing that lace will get some publicity. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:36 PM > To: Carolyn Hastings > Cc: 'Janice Blair'; 'lace'; 'Doris O'Neill' > Subject: Re: [lace] lace novel > > I just checked my Amazon account... It IS the same book, and they now > have two used copies of the original for sale... "starting at $137.00" > !!! > > I'm eager to read this one!! Thanks again! > > Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] The Lace Reader
Agnes, are you sure it was a year ago? or perhaps a different book? The book hasn't been officially published (July 29) although there have been reviews copies around, and maybe a book club published it early?? Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Agnes Boddington > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:54 PM > To: Betsy Sykes; lace > Subject: Re: [lace] The Lace Reader > > This book ws discussed on Arachne about a year ago, and I went and > bought it. > Great read, not too much lace, but it does play a background role to > the > events. > > Agnes Boddington > Ellougthon UK > > Betsy Sykes wrote: > > >Dear Spiders, > > > >I read an advance copy of The Lace Reader a couple of months ago and > thoroughly enjoyed it! Would recommend it to anyone who enjoys a good > mystery. > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace novel
I'm so glad you posted the link! The lacemaker is a member of our New England Lace Group, and also a volunteer (one of three) at the Ipswich Historical Society Museum's effort to catalog their lace collections. She is also an experienced and capable lacemaker, and gives lacemaking classes at the museum. Her name is Linda Lane. She told me that a clip of her was on UTube, but before I could see it, she said they had taken it down. She will be pleased to know that she is still "up". Interesting what some clever editing can do in terms of creating atmosphere, etc. Best, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Janice Blair > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:57 PM > To: lace > Cc: Doris O'Neill > Subject: [lace] lace novel > > This was forwarded to me by Doris O'Neill about a new novel with lace > in the title. > http://www.bordersmedia.com/features/video/lacereader.asp?cmpid=SA_2008 > 0728_NR > > There is a video link which shows a lacemaker near Salem making lace at > a pillow. I haven't seen the book yet so can't recommend it but if it > is a mystery I might read it. > Janice > > > Janice Blair > Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA > www.jblace.com > http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ > www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are full. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] using a roller
Not a bad idea at all, since I also need whatever I use to be transportable. I'll see what I can find in the way of a box. Might also be able to attach the box right behind the work, but on top of the pillow. One problem is that I tend to shove the work to one side or the other, depending on which way I'm going (this is a plaited lace and I work straight sideways at times) -- so that is another challenge in terms of storing the lace as I work. If you get any private answers that you think might help me, I'd be grateful if you would share. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Wendy Davies > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:32 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] using a roller > > Hi Carolyn and all > > I have never heard of these drawers but how about getting a light > cardboard > box the width of the pillow and use some long pins to attach it to the > top of > the pillow. > > Wendy St Dogmaels - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Textile Conservation Centre - update
It is interesting reading the reactions and the suggestions in response to the possible closing of the Textile Conservation Center. I know that the political systems in the UK and the US are very different. Here in the US if we were interested in preserving an institution of this sort, we would contact our representatives on the state and/or federal level. Is this kind of action effective in the UK? I love Clay's suggestion of support on a private basis, too. It seems as if so many of the wonderful cultural institutions that have been built up in the last few decades and before -- museums not least -- are endangered at this time. Truly alarming. Best, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:56 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Textile Conservation Centre - update > > Those of you on Arachne who were kind enough to show an interest when I > told > you of the threat of closure to the Textile Conservation Centre, > formerly at > Hampton Court and now based at Southampton University, may be > interested to > hear the Government's response: > > "Public funding for higher education will have increased by 30% in real > terms > between 1997 and 2010. Southampton University is receiving its fair > share of > the total level of government funding and now operates on a total > annual > budget of some #325 million. Within that total, it is solely > responsible for > deciding on its mission and strategy including which departments and > centres > it > opens, closes, expands or contracts, taking account of competing > priorities > and > student demand. The Government notes that the University has paid > tribute to > the > significant achievements of the Textile Conservation Centre before and > since > becoming part of the University and it supports the work of the > University and > the Centre to look at solutions to the problems which have been > identified > but it is not the Government's role to override the decisions of the > University > on this issue." > > So "not interested" from Westminster and it obviously depends on > whether the > University itself decide the Centre is important enough to give them a > big > enough share of funds to remain open. Probably not, or they wouldn't > have > thought of closing it in the first place. Or do we still need to shout > louder > than > the supporters of the other departments who are after the same purse. > > Jacquie in Lincolnshire > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Binche - How Difficult Is It?
Sure do wish it were that easy! I give this explanation to people at demos so they won't be overwhelmed by the numbers, but I think we all know deep down there is **lots** more to it. If that were not true, poor teachers would be out of business. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Sue Duckles > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:37 PM > To: Kate Henry > Cc: Adele Shaak; Shirlee Hill; lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Binche - How Difficult Is It? > > LOL I love this!!! > > Sue in EY > On 21 Jun 2008, at 18:23, Kate Henry wrote: > > Once you get hold of cross and twist, there are NO other options. > > There are only two ways to lay a thread over the one next to it, > > right over left OR left over right. Look closely and you will see > > which it is. Make it happen. Poof! you have lace. ALL of them. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bob bob bobbing in lace ;-)
While looking for information about lace conservators, I came across this on a lace web site, and thought I would share it: Bobbin lace is more common [than needlelace] and was used in linens and lingerie. It is made on a pillow by twisting many threads around pins. This is called bobbing, thus the name bobbin lace. For your amusement and delectation. ;-) Best, Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Ithaca? or Camp Gotta-Lace?
Ithaca Lace Days are Oct. 10-13 this year. More information at http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/LaceDay2008Announcement.html#Top Best, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Beth McCasland > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:25 AM > To: Arachne > Subject: [lace] Ithaca? or Camp Gotta-Lace? > > Gentle Spiders, > Since I have schedule conflicts and can't attend IOLI this year, I'm > still trying to plot a summer escape. I remember someone in the New > York area tempting me with Ithaca in the past. When is it? > > Or, one year I went to Camp Gotta-Lace over in Texas. Are y'all doing > that again? > > And for lace accomplishments, I've started on a piece from LePompe II, > 1561 (available on the Professor's website), plate 3 - the narrower > one. I'm having fun doing picots at the trail crossings. I have the > picots right after the windmill crossing. I may not be doing it > "right" but at least I'm trying to be consistant. > > Beth McCasland > in the suburbs of New Orleans > where it's hot, muggy, and daily threats of thunderstorms > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE:
Her sentiments do her credit, but the irony is that the machine lace (and fabrics) that replaced the hand industries didn't improve the lot of the workers. If anything, it made it worse. The factories were dangerous in many ways, and the labor was brutal and constant. And I'm reminded of William Cobbett's description of the decimation of the lacemaking villages of England, after the introduction of the machines. The livelihood of many was ruined by the machines. Not sure in the end that machinery was any improvement in any way -- except perhaps that a wider range of socio-economic classes could have access to lace after the machines became the norm. Just my 2 cents worth, thank you for the interesting quote, Su. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Su Carter > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:53 PM > To: Lace Arachne > Subject: > > Hi all, > > I chanced upon a lovely comment about lace by Fanny Kemble that I > thought you'd enjoy. > > > I was much interested by the lace-works at Brussels and > Mechlin, and very painfully so. It is beginning to be > time, I think, in Christian countries, for manufactures of > mere luxury to be done away with, when proficiency in > the merest mechanical drudgery involved in them demands > a lifetime, and the sight and health of women, > who begin this twilight work at five and six years old, are > often sacrificed long before their natural term to this > costly and unhealthy industry. > > I hope to see all such manufactures done away with, > for they are bad things, and a whole moral and intelligent > being, turned into ten fingers' ends for such purposes, is > a sad spectacle. I (a lace-worshipper, if ever woman was) > say this advisedly; I am sorry there is still Mechlin and > Brussels lace made, and glad there is no more India > muslin, and rejoice in the disuse of every minute manual > labor which tends to make a mere machine of God's > likeness. But oh, for all that, how incomparably inferior > is the finest, faultless, machine-made lace and muslin to > the exquisite irregularity of the human fabric!... > > Frances Ann Kemble, 1841 > > > Su Carter, enjoying a lovely day in > Williamsburg, VA, USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Keeping the pillow in place
For those of you who live near enough to an Ikea, they also sell something very similar as a shelf liner, and it is quite inexpensive. It's also great to put underneath a sewing machine or a serger to keep them in place and to absorb vibration. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings, Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Karen > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:01 AM > To: 'Greyling, Linda'; lace@arachne.com > Subject: RE: [lace] Keeping the pillow in place > > We use them here too. And especially at the edge of a table to stop our > upright bolster-like pillows from rolling around from side to side or > slipping sideways. > Karen in Malta > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > Greyling, Linda > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:24 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Keeping the pillow in place > > This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a > disclaimer. > Please refer to http://www.unisa.ac.za/disclaimer for full details. > > > I got the following tip from Lenka Suchanek before attending her wire > class > in Spain 2002: > In carpet shops you can buy a rubber like mesh to keep carpets from > slipping > on tiles. Put this underneath a lightweight pillow to keep it from > moving. > > I have used this since attending that class underneath my polystyrene > pillow > and it works. > > Linda Greyling > Helderkruin near Johannesburg South Africa > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA)
No idea why I phrased the last email that way -- I meant those to be statements, not questions. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Carolyn Hastings > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM > To: 'Carol Adkinson'; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > lace@arachne.com > Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA) > > I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were > embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of > a > single person. And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I > would > estimate around 10 panels?) > > Carolyn > > > -Original Message- > > From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM > > To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > lace@arachne.com > > Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA) > > > > Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All, > > > > Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover? > > She > > lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I > > think > > still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as > > you can > > imagine, usually over-subscribed! I know the one she recently made > > for > > Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the > > one, and > > was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too. > > > > Carol - Suffolk UK > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Carolyn Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Katrina longmuir'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM > > Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA) > > > > > > > Dear Katrina, > > > > > > I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace > of > > my > > > message was from Ipswich, USA. Add to that the fact that I really > > wasn't > > > referring to what we Americans call "Ipswich Lace", but rather to > the > > lace > > > that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich > > Historical > > > Society. The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and > > were > > > donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the > > connection > > > of > > > the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace > > > industry > > > here in New England. > > > > > > As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of > > embroidery > > > that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this > summer > > in > > > Ipswich (USA). It was a very impressive display of skill and > talent, > > in > > > addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** > > Ipswich. > > > > > > I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel > privileged > > to be > > > so close to a historical lacemaking center. > > > > > > Best, > > > Carolyn > > > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > >> Of Katrina longmuir > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com > > >> Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace > > in > > >> paragraph 5) > > >> > > >> Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I > > said I > > >> was > > >> Katrina in > > >> a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just > > >> found the > > >> man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is > > >> justice after > > >> all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend. > > >> > > >> In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear > the > > >> background > > >> of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to > > obtain > > >> further information. > > >> > > >> It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought > of > > >> the town > > >> I live in > > >> where there are several lacemakers today. But it is wonderful to > > hear > > >> the > > >> history and to > > >> dip into the background of something we love so much. > > >> Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters > - > > >> best > > >> regards from > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > > line: > > >> unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > > line: > > > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA)
I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of a single person. And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I would estimate around 10 panels?) Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM > To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA) > > Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All, > > Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover? > She > lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I > think > still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as > you can > imagine, usually over-subscribed! I know the one she recently made > for > Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the > one, and > was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too. > > Carol - Suffolk UK > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Carolyn Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Katrina longmuir'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM > Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA) > > > > Dear Katrina, > > > > I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of > my > > message was from Ipswich, USA. Add to that the fact that I really > wasn't > > referring to what we Americans call "Ipswich Lace", but rather to the > lace > > that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich > Historical > > Society. The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and > were > > donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the > connection > > of > > the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace > > industry > > here in New England. > > > > As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of > embroidery > > that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer > in > > Ipswich (USA). It was a very impressive display of skill and talent, > in > > addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** > Ipswich. > > > > I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged > to be > > so close to a historical lacemaking center. > > > > Best, > > Carolyn > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > >> Of Katrina longmuir > >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com > >> Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace > in > >> paragraph 5) > >> > >> Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I > said I > >> was > >> Katrina in > >> a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just > >> found the > >> man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is > >> justice after > >> all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend. > >> > >> In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the > >> background > >> of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to > obtain > >> further information. > >> > >> It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of > >> the town > >> I live in > >> where there are several lacemakers today. But it is wonderful to > hear > >> the > >> history and to > >> dip into the background of something we love so much. > >> Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters - > >> best > >> regards from > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > >> unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK & USA)
Dear Katrina, I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my message was from Ipswich, USA. Add to that the fact that I really wasn't referring to what we Americans call "Ipswich Lace", but rather to the lace that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich Historical Society. The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and were donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the connection of the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace industry here in New England. As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of embroidery that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer in Ipswich (USA). It was a very impressive display of skill and talent, in addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** Ipswich. I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged to be so close to a historical lacemaking center. Best, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Katrina longmuir > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com > Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in > paragraph 5) > > Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I > was > Katrina in > a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just > found the > man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is > justice after > all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend. > > In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the > background > of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain > further information. > > It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of > the town > I live in > where there are several lacemakers today. But it is wonderful to hear > the > history and to > dip into the background of something we love so much. > Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters - > best > regards from > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Puritans in silver and gold lace? Plimoth project
Hi Devon, It might be a race that you are so excited about that we got four identical messages. ;-) I think you must be the first with a sample (other than the sample designer -- me). I'm relieved to know that someone has managed to finsih the sample and that my directions didn't cause a giant snafu. One small point, very insignificant -- I believe that Richard the web site guru is a Plimoth employee, and that the First Gentleman Embroiderer is a different person. His name is Tim, and he does indeed seem a very accomplished embroiderer. The word is that the kits have been going very quickly, so if anyone on Arachne would like one, call Kathy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 508-746-1622 X 8114. And Devon, your sample looks terrific. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:49 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Puritans in silver and gold lace? Plimoth project > > I have received my package of goodies from Plimoth Plantation and I > have > made my sample and I have sent it in. While the organizers of the > project are > quick to reassure us that the production of the sample is not a test, > it is not > a race either. But, am I the first? Will mine be the first sample in > the > sample notebook that is to be part of that exhibit? It is a small > honor, I know, > but I will take what I can get. > > My sample can be seen at my arachne website "Campaign for Modern Lace > site" > where it is the second picture. In reality the picture doesn't do it > justice > because the gold and silver thread make a truly beautiful piece of > lace, one > that any Cavalier or Royalist would kill to wear, or possibly be killed > for > wearing, depending on what era and what class he or she might belong > to. > _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2366280010048870129mblGZK_ > (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2366280010048870129mblGZK) > > For more information on the recreation of the Laton Jacket you can > check in > at the Embroider's Story: > _http://www.plimoth.org/embroidery- > blog/index.php?mode=viewcat&cat_id=11_ > (http://www.plimoth.org/embroidery- > blog/index.php?mode=viewcat&cat_id=11) where > the most recent news is about a male embroiderer named Richard, who is > not > only a spectacular embroiderer, but is also doing some needed work on > upgrading their web site. I'll bet he didn't anticipate that when he > signed up for > this embroidery session! > > Please remember that even those who can't go to Plimoth can participate > by > making samples for the book and the mere purchase of the kit yields a > tax > deductible donation which supports the project. > > Devon > > > > > > > > **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fastening Honitons -- was Bundling bobbins
A reply by another Arachnean about bundling has led me in another direction, chasing a different rabbit. Does anyone have a successful way of fastening Honiton bobbins while traveling? Everything I've tried has failed, I think because there isn't any "waist" on the bobbins. I have tried to use the neck as "waist" and fasten the bobbins there, but they insist on escaping. Actually the food loops might be good for Honitons. Possibly the bobbins wouldn't escape from such a tight bundle. Hmmm -- worth trying, but I think a rubber band first. Anyone have a trick that works for them? Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:25 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Re: Bundling bobbins > > Please, dear arachneans, do not ever feel that you HAVE to buy > something when an item is suggested as a solution to a problem. > > I know that the silicone "Food Loops" aren't cheap, but they are > a good quality KITCHEN product that shouldn't ever perish like > elastic bands do & they are adjustable & easy to disconnect. > > I was given a set of 6 as a "thank you" gift for looking after a > friend's dog for a few weeks when the owner was in America > visiting family for Christmas at the end of 2005. I don't think I'll > ever use all 6 at the same time while cooking, so I might keep a > few in my lace box for when I'm using my Binche or square bobbins. > > I think my suggestion might have been more useful if I my brainwave > had come before Christmas. > Pene > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bundling bobbins
This has been an interesting thread. I'm puzzled, though. Why would you want to spend so much for what a rubber band would do? And why would you want to bundle your bobbins in a bunch like that anyway -- wouldn't they get very mixed up and result in a lot of wasted time sorting them? I'm just curious. I love the Flemish laces that use a lot of bobbins. If I'm traveling, I use crochet strips or the flat wooden "tongue depressor" type bobbin holders; if I'm working, I stack the bobbins up in groups on handkerchiefs, napkins, paper towels, what ever is handy. Both methods work, and the bobbins stay organized. And certainly a lot cheaper than this new method we're discussing. So ... what am I missing here? Well, the bands **are** a very pretty color, maybe htat is it? Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Barron > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:39 AM > To: lace > Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Bundling bobbins > > Amazon has a set of 4 for B#10 > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Set-Pink-Silicone-Food- > Loops/dp/B000Z2U3RS/ref=sr_1_1 > ?ie=UTF8&m=A3F2AHWBU0TE75&s=generic&qid=1199954233&sr=1-1 > jenny > > > - > Original Message > From: Agnes Boddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: lace > Sent: Wednesday, 9 January, 2008 7:21:43 PM > Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Bundling bobbins > > I was not joking about the price. > The cheapest I can find in UK so far is B#9.95 each. > As with many new > products, they will be expensive initially and come > down in price > over time. > Agnes Boddington- UK > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Judging criteria
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Elizabeth Ligeti > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:24 PM > To: Arachne > Subject: [lace] Judging criteria > I would not accept anyone else doing the mounting for the lacemaker. > Most > copetitions state that the work must be aall by the entrant, -- so > getting > it mounted professionally would disqualify it, - most definitely. Do you object to an item being professionally framed? Isn't having something mounted (I'm sorry, I didn't see the original post, so I'm thinking that "mounted" basically means "sewing to a piece of cloth") by someone else similar to having something professionally framed? In each case, the lace is prepared in its final stage for display. Not all lacemakers are very good at sewing, and I have a hard time seeing why they should be judged on a skill that isn't directly related to lacemaking (I happen to love sewing, but in my opinion that is a whole different arena). And why should someone loose points because of their sewing or framing limits, when some other people just pin their lace to a piece of cloth-covered insulation? or paste onto a set of fan sticks? Just musing, and playing Devil's Advocate here -- but I find I pretty much believe what I'm writing. Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Judging Criteria
Not sure about other fairs, but the ones I've entered do ask for level of expertise. I assume that information is factored in by the judges in some way. I usually put down "advanced lacemaker" but I might add "new to this technique" or some such descriptor. Something that might be a bit of an oddity at our regional fair is that multiple first place ribbons are awarded, and the same for the other cometitive positions. I think that the judges are judging specific techniques together -- all Beds, all Bucks, all Milanese, etc. Or so it seems to me. None of this is mentioned anywhere in the premiums booklet -- and this is true for all the classes of judging. Our lace group is going to try to address some of the anomalies in awards, but if the judging criteria is not transparent, then there isn't much anyone can do to try to improve it. Julie mentioned in another post that the reason that she enters competitions is to get handmade lace in front of the public. That's my reason as well, but I've found over the years that it is has also been a very helpful experience in terms of improving my lace. At our fair, the one really great thing is that the judges make an attempt to comment on the lace, with some positive and some "constructive criticism" (and they succeed in being very constructive). I've mentioned the judging being opaque, but that isn't entirely true. There are check-offs for the following catagories (which I think the fair stipulates, as they aren't lace specific): Selection of appropriate materials Design -- Effective balance; proportion Color -- Effective balance; harmony Techniques; Workmanship; Skills Condition -- Neat, Clean, "New" Creativity as in Original, Adaptation, etc. Mounting; Framing as applies to project Appropriate "weave" structure So you might see why my Binche mat mounted on very antique, handwoven linen, might have been penalized -- it didn't look "new" at all (although I must hasten to say it certainly didn't look old and scruffy -- I only wish linen like that could be produced today!) But it seems to me that many of these catagories don't apply much at all, at least among the pieces that are submitted locally. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Judging Criteria > > In a message dated 12/12/2007 11:31:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > What may not be challenging for someone who has been making lace for > ages may be a massive challenge for a beginner. Unless you know the > level the maker is at how can you tell whether it was much of a > challenge or not? > > > > The one thing that the fair insists on is that the name of the person > be > hidden, so that you are not influenced by knowing that information. > But, I guess > what I mean is that, since you are judging many pieces of lace by many > people > against each other, rather than assessing whether a piece is a > personal best > for the individual who has made it, how much credit should someone get > for > choosing a more challenging, in a universal sense, piece of lace. The > Dianna > Stevens scale includes 10 points for complexity of the piece. So you > might > pick up some points for complexity while losing some for workmanship. > > Of course, one variation that has occurred in our contest is that the > local > group has devised a bunch of special categories, like "best piece for > persons > making lace for less than a year" so that the same people don't win all > the > prizes. I think this is an excellent idea. It encourages more people to > enter. > > Devon > > > > > > **See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] judging criteria
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:31 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] judging criteria > > In the US, of course, we have so few lacemakers, and so few judges, > and > apparently, no set standards that we all agree upon. It is a problem. Something for IOLI to consider? Or at least a possible for some enterprising local lace chapters? Think I'll look into this, it sounds very interesting. Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Old lace
> I am really enjoying the thread on competitions and judging and often > wonder > why we need competitions. Do they not stem from the time where a > woman's > value was measured by her competence in the home What alternatives > are > there to reward people for exceptional handwork? Jeanette, Your lace meeting certainly sounds as if it was interesting! One value to the competitions is that it is an invaluable opportunity to expose the public to the fact that lacemaking is alive and well. We have a chance to try to interest people in taking up the hobby/craft/art. I would hate to see these competitions disappear, but since I see every year a smaller group of entries, I fear that will someday happen. I enter (force myself to enter) each year in our regional competition. I must admit that sometimes I feel that the sum total of judging is contained in the quality of one's picots (can you tell that I have picot challenges?). I join the others on this list who think it would be very helpful to have the judging criteria published -- not only would this help one to determine whether or not to enter, but more importantly, it would help to interpret the judges' results. And although I can certainly see the points made by various people for not revealing the identity of judges, I for one think it is valuable to know who judges our work. Frankly, I judge the judge. If I can't know the judge's name, at least I would like to know his/her qualifications as a judge. I have on occasion made historically-accurate reproductions of laces, going back to the 17th century. Of course, some techniques that are used in these laces are not very often, if ever, seen (much less taught) today. One thing I find is that judges are not typically well informed about this kind of lace. In an ideal world, I think we would have judges for different types of lace, just as we have different judges at dog shows for different breeds. That's my two cents worth for today, Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] 17th cent.metallic lace recreation at Plimoth, MA
To clarify a few points from Devon's earlier posting November 29, about the lace project at Plimoth Plantation: I think that lunch is included, but not overnight > accommodation. Lunch is included, and very good at that. Not historical meals, but cooked especially for the volunteers and **not** the usual mass-produced food one might expect in the setting. > I myself am quite interested to see what they manage to put in the kit, > and > to get my hands on some hand produced spangles. Spangles for the kit **are not** handmade. Sorry, but with thousands (literally) for the village blacksmith to produce, they couldn't manage the handmade ones for the kits. They are very nice, however, from Kreinik -- but more like sequins. The number of the handmade ones, BTW, include all the tiny oes that need to be produced for the embroidered part of the jacket. >From the blog, http://www.plimoth.org/embroidery-blog): "The lace in the kits is not the Laton lace from the jacket. The kit lace is shown in the photos here. The kit lace is similar to the Laton lace, and uses many of the same techniques. Each kit will contain: - 110 spangles - 24 yards of 90% silver 9 grm tambour - 12 yards of gilt 9 grm tambour - needle to thread spangles - complete instructions, color diagrams, and pricking for lace - Photograph of finished lace The materials included are enough to complete the sample (about 6 inches in length and 1-1/4" in width) and a second full sample for the lace maker to keep. The cost of each kit is $40.00 plus $5 shipping, which includes a $20 tax-deductible donation, which will directly support the jacket project. To order a kit, please call Kathy at 508-746-1622 X 8114 or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]" The big worry right now is the difficulty in procuring the stock for the handmade spangles -- no chance of starting the lace until the spangles are in hand. The embroidery directions are very > clear, it > seems to me, and there is a CD, No CD for the lace, I'm afraid. I hope that the other written materials, especially my directions, do credit to the reputation that Plimoth has now as a result of the wonderful embroidery directions. Those directions are published-book-quality. > > I have put my name on the list of those to be notified when the kit is > available. It sounds like a fun project, and frankly, in the US, how > often does > the opportunity arise to recreate something from the 1620's? Not very often. I'm told that the kits will go out around the first of the year. The plans were to make up an initial 25 kits to judge interest, and I've heard that there are already 25 names on the list. Not including my own, which I need to add. If anyone has any further questions, or if you'd like to be put on the list to get the kits, you can contact the museum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And of course I'll be happy to try to answer questions that you might have. Best, Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Abusive response from eBay seller
I agree that eBay doesn't seem to take much interest. I bought an American girl doll pattern. The description stipulated no box, which sounded fine as I wanted to sew, not collect. When the item arrived, it was a photocopy. Ebay didn't seem interested, the guy still sells the photocopies. Possibly more surprising is that Pleasant Company wasn't interested, either. It will be a long time before I get my knickers in a twist again over copyright violation. Cynically yours, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Sue > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:23 AM > To: 'Jean Nathan'; 'Lace' > Subject: RE: [lace] Abusive response from ebay seller > > Jean, you are probably correct in your assumption that ebay will do > nothing I had a similar experience when I purchased a lace book and > when > it arrived it absolutely reeked of cigarette smoke that has taken weeks > to rid, I gave the seller a negative feedback because of this and he > responded by abusively telling me if I did not withdraw it he would > give > me a negative, I took this as a threat because I paid promptly and he > had no reason whatsoever to give me a negative, I complained to ebay > and > got the exact same answer (must be one that they keep on file for all > complaints) as far as I can see they did nothing about it because the > negative that he gave me is still on my feedback file and I think that > was just to appease me into thinking they had any intention of doing > something about abusive threats. > Sue M Harvey > Norfolk UK > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI Membership Message
Well I just paid my dues via paypal, the account was there and the money withdrawn. I don't think I can call it back. I put my member number and name in the "comments" section. They're going to get a crash course in this, I'm afraid. The feature is there, maybe they just weren't going to use it yet. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Faye Owers > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:54 PM > To: 'Dona B.'; 'Sue Babbs'; lace@arachne.com > Subject: RE: [lace] IOLI Membership Message > > Hi All, > > I wrote to the webmaster of the IOLI site trying to find the PayPal > area > and this is the reply he had from Laurie: > > "Faye, > Below is the response I got back from the Membership Chairperson, Lauri > Hughes. We don't have the paypal feature just yet. Hopefully by the > end of > this years convention something will come to fruition. > > Sorry. > > Mark, aka Tatman > IOLI webmaster > > -- Forwarded Message > From: "Laurie J. Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:58:19 -0700 > To: 'Mark Myers' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [IOLI] > > Mark, > > We started this about two or three years agobut never finished. > Maybe > we can finish by convention. I'll look at it again. > > As I recall I had a couple of changes (mostly just moving text) to the > Membership page. > > L > > -- > Laurie J Hughes > Silicon Valley, CA (formerly the Valley of Hearts Delight) > > Bobbin lace, social history, gardening" > -- > > > Maybe there needs some information on the little note in the magazine > to > clarify exactly how we pay using PayPal. > > > Cheers > > Faye Owers > Tasmania > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New England Lace Group Retreat
The New England Lace Group will be able to accept some beginning lace students at our annual Retreat in Wareham in May. Holly Van Sciver is happy to have beginners in her class. I've had a couple of inquiries lately from people who were interested in this kind of class at Retreat. Please let anyone you know who might appreciate the opportunity know. At this writing there are still spaces left in both classes: Jeannet van Oord is teaching Continental laces, and Holly van Sciver is teaching English Laces. More information and a registration form can be found at www.nelg.us. Or I can be contacted directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to answer questions or send information. Regards, Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Machine embroidery for lacers - spider
Jean -- Thanks for taking the trouble to repost about these designs. They are indeed very nice. I didn't see your original announcement, so I appreciate the second go-round. I'll certainly buy some. Regards, Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Jean Nathan > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:26 AM > To: Lace > Subject: [lace] Machine embroidery for lacers - spider > > No-one responded on whether or not they wanted to have a machine > embroidery > motif of a spider, but Jeannie has done two anyway - one with a cute > spider > in the middle of a web and the other with a more realistic one. She > hasn't > infringed Arachne's sensitivities by including a text banner "Weavers > of > webs". The design could have other uses such as hallowe'en or Goth. > > Some people have had problems fitting her designs into a 4 x 4 hoop, > and, if > you have, contact her and she'll send a reduced design to replace it. > > No vested interest, just a happy customer: > > http://jeaniescraftcorner.com > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] NELG Lace Retreat in May
Hello, The New England Lace Group will hold its annual Lace Retreat in Wareham, Massachusetts on May 3-6, 2007. Jeannet Van Oord will be teaching the Continental Laces, and Holly Van Sciver will teach English Laces. A "retreat only" option is also offered. The retreat is an informal gathering where the emphasis is on relaxation and fun. The grounds of the Sacred Hearts Retreat Center, where the retreat is held, offers 118 acres on Buzzards Bay. You will find a beautiful meditation garden, as well as woods, meadows, and a beach, great for walking and bird watching. More information on the retreat can be found on the web site of the New England Lace Group, www.nelg.us We can also be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope that we'll see some of you in May. Be sure to let me know if you have questions, or if there is anything I can do to assist. Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fan Making -- time
Alice, I notice that you don't mention pulling out hair time. ;-) In my own case, I don't really want it to finish up fast -- why in the world would I do lacemaking if that were the case. But I do love making fans, and every one has been worth the effort! What's a Witch Stitch? Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice > Howell > > > You will note that my previous message did not give a > reference to 'time'. I only said it was possible to > make a fan -- same as a handkerchief, or collar, or > table ribbon, or ornament, or..or..oranything. > > Time involves thinking time, prep time, working time, > taking it out and doing it again time, finishing time, > and just staring lovingly at it as it grows time. > > I find that projects either take more time than I > expected, or less time, which gives me a surprise. > Always give yourself at least 3 times longer than you > think you should need if you are making lace for a > special occasion. Then you shouldn't panic. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fan Museum Greenwich
Yes, you can, and you even have time to finish several -- but, you should give up non-essential activities such as housework to make it possible. ;-) I can testify that this method works wonderfully! Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Fan Museum Greenwich > > Dear Jenny: > > That is a wonderful museum. I visited it in 2002 during OIDFA/Nottingham > and it was really a treat! And then you start to think: . . . could I make a > lace fan? . . . possibly finish it in my lifetime? . . . hmmm. . . > > Linda Sheff > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fan Making
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice > Howell > Sure you can! Many people have. Fans come in many > sizes As long as you don't look at a lovely miniature fan and think for one single moment "Oh, that won't take long since it's so small"!!! That definitely doesn't work! Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA Maker of four and a half fans (the last half is the miniature and will probably take longer than two normal size fans) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI arachne luncheon and convention (long)
Hello Patsy, I had heard at the luncheon that you'd been very sick, and had to be taken away in a wheelchair. I'm so relieved to hear that you've recovered, but sorry we missed seeing you. Thank you so much for arranging the lunch. It was wonderful to see faces that are usually just names. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patsy A. > Goodman > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 4:05 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] IOLI arachne luncheon and convention (long) > > Hello Everyone, > > Just felt an explanation was in order, along with an apology concerning the > luncheon. > I arrived in Montreal early Saturday morning. Arrived at the Hotel at about > 10:30 am. Had to wait for a room so went looking for restaurants. The one > on the main floor of the Hotel wanted $22.00 plus, for the luncheon. So > checked out other places Sat. and Sunday. It was too crazy to try to get > tables together in the food court, LOL. The Baton Rouge seemed the best and > was close to the elevator to get back to class. I felt fine, but tired Sat. > and Sun. and even on Monday morning. I had a sign made up, to place on the > table. Gave it to the restaurant to place on the table as I knew I couldn't > get there ahead of every one. > > Went to the breakfast, we had, then went to class. The class had no sooner > started then I started to get sick. At first I thought it was my diabetics > acting up. But my blood count was ok. Then I started vomiting and was > really sick. They had to send for a wheel chair to take me back to my room. > I had a good dose of Montezuma's revenge and cold sweats. I am so sorry that > I missed the luncheon and I apologize to all that attended. I hope the > restaurant was fine and that you enjoyed yourselves. > > I also want to again apologize to the morning Carrickmacross class for > causing a disruption to the class by getting sick. I know it caused some > lost class time and I am so sorry . > > I managed to get through the rest of my class days but was not able to get > to any evening activities except for the banquet. And I missed going to the > tour on Wed. > > But I did enjoy meeting some of the people from the internet, like Tamara > and Gail Marshall, along with many others. > > The table runners for the contest were just out standing. How the judges > were able to pick a winner I don't know. There was a tatted one, called > mini water lily's, that I was just positive was made by Doretha Albee. Was > surprised to learn that it was made by someone else and it won some prize. > I was seated in a far corner and couldn't hear a thing that was said. > > I wish you all could have seen the entertainment. They were a group of > dancers. First they came out and the women were dressed in the hooped > skirted gowns and the men were dressed in their finest. They danced the > minuet, and a few others. We went on with the banquet. Then more dancing. > More banquet and business. > T H E N - - - - -- The Grande finale. > WOW! ! You had to see this. The dancers came out in costume. > Little white bonnets and long aprons, (funny I can't remember what the men > were wearing) but they were each carrying a long white rope attached to a > giant sized lace makers pillow. The "Lacemaker" stepped up to the podium > and they placed the giant pillow in place. She had giant pins to place in > the proper holes. The dancers kind of danced and at the same time wove the > rope over and under making the stitches and finally a "tally". The > lacemaker placing the giant sized pins in the proper places. When done, the > pillow was held up so we could all see the "lace". It was a wonderful > accomplishment. The battery in my camera had gone dead just as the program > started and my extra battery was up in my room. So I got no pictures of the > dancers. But believe me cameras were flashing all over. Hopefully some > will put them up for us all to enjoy. Don't know if we can wait for the > next IOLI bulletin. > > Hope every one that went to convention had a great time. > > Patsy A. Goodman > Chula Vista, CA, USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RE:IOLI Table ribbon contest
Hello, Barbara Joyce wrote: Also, although we were > permitted to photograph many lovely tablecloths and doilies that were on > display, we were not permitted to photograph any of the contest entries--no > explanation was given for this. ] I believe that the reason for not allowing the photographs is that photographs of the winning entries will appear in the IOLI Bulletin -- at least, that is what I remember of a discussion last year. I guess that the powers-that-be don't want to spoil the sense of anticipation in the reader. I agree entirely with your description of Janice Blair's stunning creation. For me (and I'm not one who very often **really** likes modern lace) it succeeded on every imaginable level. I'll look forward to seeing it again in the Bulletin. Congratulations to all the winners -- your work was fantastic! Best, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Luncheon get together
Patsy, That sounds great. And if anyone is keeping a nose count, I'd love to be counted in. Thanks, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patsy A. > Goodman > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:03 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Luncheon get together > > OK people, > > I'll be getting to the hotel on Saturday morning. I'm not promising for > sure : ) but it looks like I'll be among the first arriving. So I'll try > to check out the lunch area and see what I can arrange. I've made a sign > that says ARACHNE LUNCHEN on it and will post on bulletin board when it is > put up, stating where we will get together. Unless someone else beats me to > it. : ) Since I'm leaving Friday evening (tomorrow) it'll be a little hard > for me to get a count of how many seats/tables to try to reserve. But if > you see this before noon Friday give me a yes and that way myself and > whoever else may get there early can have a rough guess on how many > seats/tables to try to reserve. OK? > > Patsy A. Goodman > Chula Vista, CA, USA > TatPat1, NATA #333 > AKA - Queen Tat Pat of the Red Hat Lacers > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Convention - Money
On the off chance that this proves helpful to someone, I thought I'd pass this along: When I went to my bank branch this morning to try to obtain some Canadian currency, I learned that my bank (BankAmerica) has a relationship with a bank in Canada (ScotiaBank), whereby I won't have to pay any bank fees to use Scotia's atm machines. Since BA charges $5 if I use a non-Scotia atm machine in Canada, plus whatever the host bank charges, this was definitely a good tip. I think the nearest Scotia atm is about 1/2 mile away from the convention center, but I think it will be worth the walk. Thought that some of you might find it worth calling your own banks to check if they have similar partnerships. Looking forward to seeing you all in Montreal, Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] New England Lace Retreat
Hello Clay, The lace retreat is most likely to be May 4-6, 2007 (you may choose to arrive the evening before, May 3, if more convenient). I'll post a confirmation as soon as I know it, and there will be information on the NELG web site: www.nelg.us We are just in the process of confirming dates, etc. Let me know if I can help with any other questions. Regards, Carolyn Hastings Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CLIVE > Rice > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:39 PM > To: arachne > Subject: Re: [lace] New England Lace Retreat > > Thank you, Jane, for the wonderful report of the New England Lace Group > retreat in Wareham, Massachusetts. > > Since Clive and I may be in that area next year (his sister lives in Wells, > Maine and we visit my favorite cousin in Carlisle, Mass.) I just might be in > the area. > > Post the dates as soon as you know them so they can go on the calendar - one > can't plan too far ahead! > > Happy Lacemaking, > Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA who was shopping for new carpeting > and suddenly asked myself, "Why am I concerned about the 25 year warranty?" > (snip) > > So I hope this will inspire others to go to their local events. And I > > hope > > some of you will come to the NELG Retreat next year!! There was room for > > quite a few more and the more lace the better I think! > > > > Jane in Vermont, USA where we have had a few sunny days after a month or > > two > > of mostly rain! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fan exhibition at Holyrood Palace - Edinburgh
Hello, If this was mentioned I missed it: you can follow links and view the entire exhibition on line. There are notes about the production of the fans, provenance, etc. Not as nice, perhaps, as viewing in person, but very very nice for those of us who haven't a prayer of making it to Edinburgh. http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/exhibition.asp?exhibition=FANS There is a (nearly invisible) link on the fan (just below the pink letters) that will take you to five pages of fan images. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA, USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny > Barron > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 3:30 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] Fan exhibition at Holyrood Palace - Edinburgh > > I just googled and it's on till May 29th > http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/default.asp?action=article&ID=25 > jenny barron > Scotland > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do you know how long the fan exhibition is on for. Micki? I shall be in the > Edinburgh area mid June and would love to see it. > > Patricia in Wales > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Bone/ivory lace bobbins on Antiques Roadshow
Hi, Several years ago I bought a box of about 30 lace bobbins from Skinners. They are the auction house that is often seen on Antiques Road Show, at least the US version. It is also right down the street from my house. They also designated the bobbins as "ivory". I really don't think that non-lace people know much about bone bobbins. In fact, if you listen to Antiques Road Show, they make mistakes all over the place. It is still interesting, but I suppose that they are brought such a wide variety of items it would be unreasonable to expect them to always know. What also interests me is that neither they, nor any other antiques dealer I've ever come across, has ever said "I don't know". Regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Nathan Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:43 AM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Bone/ivory lace bobbins on Antiques Roadshow Thanks to those of us who wrote to the Antiques Roadshow regarding 'ivory' bobbins, their expert has admitted that this was a mistake and that they would be bone. The values given were for insurance and therefore high. Just got to convince 'Flog-it!'. So it's definitely worth contacting broadcasters if you think they've made a mistake. Haven't checked the web site yet to see if ivory has been changed to bone. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fwd: lace tablecloth
Hello, I see a chance at getting some education here. The seller says that there is "raised princess tape" in the figurals. Can someone explain this so that I can recognize it? I don't seem to be able to see it. I do see raised parts (as the wreath on the head) but it doesn't fit my idea of what princess tape would look like. But then, I've never seen princess tape that I know of. Best, CArolyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice Howell Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:31 PM To: Ruth Hickman Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Fwd: lace tablecloth This table cloth is fabulous! It is mainly Cantu lace with some needlelace inserts. Some of the featured figures are fabric based, but have 3-D features added. If I remember correctly, Point de Venise is a term often applied to almost any needlelace, especially the ones coming out of Italy, when they don't know a precise name. The title on the tablecloth isn't as far off as some items on eBay. Wish I had lots of dollars to spend. This is really a gem of a cloth. Alice in Oregon (new email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Ruth Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am forwarding this as I don't know enough about > lace to tell her if she is correct or not. I know > some of you will be able to help her > Can you tell me if the lace in this auction of mine > is correctly identified? > Thanks > Carol...aka Raggedyandrea > Antique point de Venise mixed Lace tablecloth > Figural - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: aussie bobbin winder THE ANSWER
Sure hope the rubber bands I've kept in the box all these years (although in a dark cupboard) are still stretchy when they arrive at their destinations. I last used a replacement in late May and it **seemed** ok, and they look ok to me now, but I hope I'm not sending rotten rubber bands to people! Carolyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tamara P Duvall Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:11 PM To: lace Arachne Subject: [lace] Re: aussie bobbin winder THE ANSWER On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:57, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > I replaced my bands years ago. I purchased with (here in the US) > Sparco > size 31. 2 1/2" x 1/8". And, the best of friends that she is, she sent me some, too. And they did fit/work to perfection (I tested). I then left them in the original (paper) envelope, therefore they're now dust, like the original ones. OTOH, the orthodontal rubber bands that I scrounged off my son's doctor 17 yrs ago (twice as long at least as I've had the bands from Carolyn), and which I use to carry two bobbins as one when replacing a thread, are still in perfectly snappy shape. The lesson there is: keep your bands in a tightly sealed (one of the zip-lock kind) plastic pouch, and in a dark place... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] aussie bobbin winder THE ANSWER
I replaced my bands years ago. I purchased with (here in the US) Sparco size 31. 2 1/2" x 1/8". If you can't find them in a "big box" store (they only carry the most common, best selling items) try a smaller stationery store. My box was huge. I still have 3/4 of the original quantity (I had to buy 1/4 pound to get the correct size). Anyone who would like a dozen or so, email me with your address. Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rick &sharon Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:52 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] aussie bobbin winder I've had my Aussie bobbin winder for quite a few years and recently I've had trouble finding an appropriate replacement elastic band. I've long since lost the little piece of paper that stipulated the size, can anyone tell me what it is? I've got a huge bag of elastic bands of assorted sizes and none of them work :( The bands just keep spinning without turning my bobbins..most frustrating :( TYIA Sharon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/171 - Release Date: 11/15/05 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: handmade bobbin lace sold for 35 dollars yard
In the context of the message, I believe that the lace was purchased by an Israeli dealer, not that a dealer purchased Israeli lace. Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of suzy Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:15 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Re: handmade bobbin lace sold for 35 dollars yard --- James Robison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Suzy, > Thanks for your email. I purchased this lace from a lace dealer who > has been selling antique lace > and trims for probably 25 years or more. She indicated it was > handmade, > but she has been wrong > before. She might be up in the night about this one...I have always > been > taught to look for > anomalies or errors which are not repeated as the pattern is repeated > and > honestly there are so > many differences in each segment, it's difficult for me to believe > that a > machine could make > anything so irregular. There are differences in the tension in the > lace > throughout ,etc. I just felt it > was homemade. I believe it was all purchased by a dealer in Israel, > so she > may be able to shed > light on it... > Thanks again, > Susan > > > from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] OT, yarn question
The link takes you to the German manufacturers of Opal wool yarn. They list links for all over the world. Stockists in the UK for this yarn are listed at http://www.sockenwolle.de/index2-eng.html There are quite a few, and some do mail order. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of beth Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:46 AM To: Patsy A. Goodman Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] OT, yarn question Dear Patsy ( and anyone else interested) Pre-dyed patterned sock wool is certainly available now. There is some available in the uk, but I've no idea who distributes it (members of my lace class have bought it at knitting/needlecrafts exhibitions without noting the supplier details). However, the German sock wool is much better than the ones available here ( one of our class has a sister in Germany and gets the wool sent over). I did see a web-site adress (www.sockenwolle.de) scribbled on a corner of someone's lace pattern last night, which may be a supplier - I haven't had time to check it out myself yet - or perhaps a German arachne may be able to find supplier details? Beth whose porridge has just gone cold while she typed this on a slightly cloudy autumn morning in Cheshire, England. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Mounting lace fans
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alice Howell > > Wheat paste IS flour and water, cooked together. Use plain, > unbleached > flour that has no additives, plus water, and you have pure wheat > paste. One part flour to five parts water, cooked for a > minute or two, > stirred frequently. For the small fan I made, I needed only about a > teaspoon of flour. > > Happy lacing, > Alice in Oregon Although Japanese wheat paste is (obviously) "flour", it differs from flour that you buy in the grocery store. I think it is really starch, very fine and pure. I was originally informed about this by the conservator at the rare books library at the university where my husband used to work. I had written to ask his advice (he is, bar none, the most informed individual I've ever heard regarding issues of conservation) for what to use to mount the fans. He told me that regular (supermarket) wheat flour still has many impurities that may in later years cause stains. He highly recommended the use of the Japanese wheat paste (Zen Shofu). It is a very pure form of flour, and I think it is finer. Of course his experience is with books, not textiles, but the same concerns apply. I use a 1:5 ratio paste:distilled water (1/4 tsp. was enough for my very very large fan) cooked 15 seconds in the microwave. I keep it frozen until I need it and it has lasted for years. Here's some more information: http://www.nedcc.org/plam3/tleaf66.htm (Northeast Documents Conservation Center) "Conservators recommend paste that is homemade from pure starch extracted from flour, usually wheat or rice flour. This starch is available from conservation suppliers in powdered form. A recipe for starch paste follows, as well as directions for making paste in a microwave oven. " And for those of us who have scorned the idea of using wallpaper paste, here is a permutation from the same source as above (using wallpaper paste compared to methyl cellulose to me is as using store flour to wheat paste): "ANOTHER SIMPLE PASTE: METHYL CELLULOSE Methyl cellulose, the main ingredient in most commercial wallpaper pastes, is acceptable for conservation purposes if used in its pure form. It is available from conservation suppliers as a white powder and does not need to be cooked." More information, and instructions, about each method and more appear on their web site. I still think it worth the time and expense in hope of having my lace look nice longer. Regards, Carolyn - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] craft vs. art/valuing contemporary lace
But that is precisely the point I'm trying to make. The issue in art isn't quality or time, but creativity/originality. Otherwise, all of the copies of great works of art would be "art", and personally, I don't think that they are. I think they might be described as "crafsmanlike" copies, but not "art". Just because you pick up a paint brush and paint, your product isn't automatically art. Same for lace. The medium doesn't define art. Just my two cents worth. I'm not trying to revive a discussion about art/craft definitions. That's pretty personal. I think what I'm saying is, whichever, it is worth **something** -- a **something** we have a pretty hard time getting recognition of. Either way, the lace is of value. Actually, I guess what I'm fighting for here is a recognition of the value of "craft". We shouldn't have to defend our lace as art to have it valued. Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:13 PM > To: lace@arachne.com; Carolyn Hastings > Subject: RE: [lace] craft vs. art/valuing contemporary lace > > > On 6 Sep 2005 at 10:38, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > > > I don't want to downgrade our lace in any way, and certainly I do > > think there are many wonderful lace works of art which our modern > > lacemakers are producing. However, I am darn sure my lace > is **not** > > art. I think it is beautiful, and I love it. > > I have been to a number of museums that display "art" by some very > famous "artists" . Some of it was nothing but junk in my eye. In > some of the museums there were also pieces of lace which was > much more beautiful than some of the paintings and sculptures. > > I don't make lace myself (my wife latched onto the kit I bought for > myself so SHE could learn) but I marvel at the dedication and time > that is envolved in making even a simple bookmark. We have an > artist in our neighborhood who charges $1000 per square inch for a > painting. I doesn't take her any longer to paint a square > inch than it > does for my wife to do a square inch of fine bobbin lace. > > We have several pieces of my wife's "art" lace as well as pieces > purchased in Hungary and Russia hanging in our home. > > Jim Stavast > BeeUtahful Bobbins > www.beeutahful.com > > Jim > ShopSite, Inc > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] craft vs. art/valuing contemporary lace
> Aurelia wrote: But my main argument is exactly NOT to value lace as > just another fiber art! > > Fiber art qualifies as art in my book. > I don't want to downgrade our lace in any way, and certainly I do think there are many wonderful lace works of art which our modern lacemakers are producing. However, I am darn sure my lace is **not** art. I think it is beautiful, and I love it. I hope that I make my lace in the most craftmanlike (in the very best sense of the word, and something to be proud of) way. I won't go into a long list of why I think this is so, for my lace, except that for me an essential ingredient of art is orginality in the creation. So far that is not a quality I seem to be capable of. So for a moment, accept my evaluation of my lace as craft, not art (no reflection on anyone else's lace). Why should not my lace be valued, according to the standard of craftsmanship? Or anything else that we produce by hand -- knitted or crocheted, embroidered, sewn, etc.? It's too bad that "craft" and "craftsmanship" has come to have such a lowly status -- if you read some of the old books, it used to be one of the most valued of characteristics. Just my two cents worth, and wondering why, Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Mounting lace fans
How to > pleat and fold the leaf is the most useful part along with > pointing out > pitfalls which are obvious when you think about them - but we > don't always > think do we? > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK OK, I have a question, probably dumb, that has puzzled me for years. **Why** go to all the bother of pleating and folding the fan at all? I've done perhaps half a dozen fans, none have I bothered with this step (since I couldn't figure out why, I didn't). All but one of the fans are displayed in frames,and they are open. So they will probably not ever be closed. But prior to framing, when I closed the fans, the fan leaf just folded up neatly into folds along the sticks. The single fan that hasn't been framed is intended for use at weddings by the females in our family, and that folds very neatly when necessary. So, why bother? I can see the good sense of reinforcing the lace (especially in the case of the large wedding fan), as Treena Ruffner suggested in her IOLI Bulletin article. Someday, that reinforcing may save the lace from tearing. Another question: one set of fan sticks came with single holes,perhaps two inches apart, along the sticks. How am I supposed to use that to mount the fan leaf? I just can't picture it, unless I am supposed to be happy with two inch long lengths of thread running along the beautiful backs of the sticks (and they are beautiful, covered with abalone as they are, and meant to be viewed). > Shows how to mount > a leaf using tacky glue and wallpaper paste (Jeri calm down!) > using plastic > sticks and wooden sticks. She also mentioned stitching in > passing. I have had a whole evolution regarding the mounting glue. Now I use very pure Japanese wheat paste (cooked) purchased from Talas in New York. It is relatively weak (which I like since the glue will let loose before the threads tear), but has less chance of impurities staining the lace over time. I have heard that at least one prominent teacher recommends the use of cooking flour to make the paste -- now that seems surprising advice, given the likelihood of future problems. Why do some people take all those hours to make lace, and then refuse to spend a little extra money/time to safeguard their investment? Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] General Fans Information
Malcom Cox's web site is: http://www.connect.ie/users/mcox/ I have a set for a large fan I made for my daughters to use in their weddings. They are lovely, but very heavy. He offers alternate MOP, also abalone (which I have), as well as other materials. There is someone in the US from whom I've also had fan sticks, John Aebi from Ohio. If he has a web site I can't find it, but maybe someone will jump in here. His sticks are very nice, but not (at least the ones I have) **fancy** -- nice woods are used, nicely finished, but they aren't carved. My experience has been different from that of the lacemakers who've already answered. I made my fans from readily available prickings, and the sticks were made to fit the lace. In fact, the fan stick makers already seemed to know the prickings, and were all prepared to set to work. There's a nice article on Treena Ruffner's experience with fan making/mounting, in the IOLI Bulletin Summer 2005. Good luck, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Aurelia Loveman > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:40 PM > To: Barbara Joyce > Cc: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] General Fans Information > > > Dear Barbara -- Usually you would make the fan to fit the sticks, > not the other way round. So now, when you find fansticks that you > like, you might have to alter your pricking a bit so that it will > fit. Also, there is a > fan maker who currently advertises in 'Lace.' His name is Malcolm > Cox. I haven't seen any of his work, but I hear he is very good. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] General Fans Information
Malcom Cox's web site is: http://www.connect.ie/users/mcox/ I have a set for a large fan I made for my daughters to use in their weddings. They are lovely, but very heavy. He offers alternate MOP, also abalone (which I have), as well as other materials. There is someone in the US from whom I've also had fan sticks, John Aebi from Ohio. If he has a web site I can't find it, but maybe someone will jump in here. His sticks are very nice, but not (at least the ones I have) **fancy** -- nice woods are used, nicely finished, but they aren't carved. My experience has been different from that of the lacemakers who've already answered. I made my fans from readily available prickings, and the sticks were made to fit the lace. In fact, the fan stick makers already seemed to know the prickings, and were all prepared to set to work. There's a nice article on Treena Ruffner's experience with fan making/mounting, in the IOLI Bulletin Summer 2005. Good luck, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Aurelia Loveman > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:40 PM > To: Barbara Joyce > Cc: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] General Fans Information > > > Dear Barbara -- Usually you would make the fan to fit the sticks, > not the other way round. So now, when you find fansticks that you > like, you might have to alter your pricking a bit so that it will > fit. Also, there is a > fan maker who currently advertises in 'Lace.' His name is Malcolm > Cox. I haven't seen any of his work, but I hear he is very good. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI entries (short retorts)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bev Walker > > > If I've spent hours and hours making a piece of lace, I want it to > > reach its destination. If that doesn't happen, insurance > money won't > > replace the item. > > Spot on. However, I think that you would be very surprised just how much it bothers you if you are offered **nothing** for your loss, even though you had paid for insurance. When I shipped our family antiques, and one box arrived with the contents in smitereens, I didn't expect to get a lot of money, or to be able to replace our memory-filled items. I thought I might be offered $25-$50, even though I knew the worth was much higher. But I was really angry, and in fact am still angry when something reminds me, that I was not only offered nothing, but was also insulted by the rationale for not compensating my loss. So, even though the lace can't be replaced, my advice is if you do insure it, do the job right and get it appraised. If you ship something that can be broken, try to find out what the packing requirements are. My own course now when shipping is to take my chances and leave the insurance to other, still innocent, customers. BTW, when I enter my lace in the regional New England competition (CraftAdventure), I'm required to fill out a form stating the value. The form requires the use of a formula, which is as described in some earlier emails: hours x a specified minium per hour + the cost of materials. I am always staggered and bemused when I arrive at the final sum -- since it is usually in the thousands, I know for **darn sure** that the insurance company won't pay that out. Anyway, this form is now required because a fire sprinkler system in the old building went off and stained all of the textiles with rusty water. Insurance wouldn't cover the loss, I surmise, because of the lack of a formal stated value. Regards, Carolyn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info
I used to re-deliver misdelivered mail, until the woman whose credit card I'd recieved was rude to me, in response to my complaint that her kid had been pretty rude to me when I asked if this was the residence of Mrs. X.X. XXX. Possibly he thought it was a sales person, but I didn't enjoy having to go through his remarks to do my little good deed. After that, I vowed to the post office that I would take no responsibility for misdelivered mail. But I can't be really that mean, so I just put it back in my mailbox marked "Delivered to wrong address". All of these tales of woe are just the tip of the iceberg. There is also the collection of stories around attempts by my three children to have mail forwarded as they moved out of the house. Now I tell them not to bother. I've learned I can make up a sheet of my own forwarding labels and the mail will be delivered more quickly and consistantly. Just a tip, in case you ever find it useful. Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info I get in my car and deliver the mail that I get > by mistake, if > possible, > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] insurance for lace events
I used to be active in a Revolutionary War re-enacting group. Being around guns and fire a lot made us very aware of liability. We got an insurance policy for our group and its members for several hundred a year, and it covers all of our marches and other events. Of course, lacemaking is a pretty dangerous sport (all those sharp implements, you know), perhaps that accounts for the high cost of a policy. Or, maybe it's a matter of shopping around enough? Sometimes you can get the best deal if you know an agent. Agencies who don't know the applicants might just stop at the first quote and leave it at that. Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Janice Blair > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:39 PM > To: lace-digest > Subject: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info > > Regarding insurance at events, I looked into it with my local > agent for our convention and she quoted thousands of dollars > for the short event coverage. She said that if the IOLI had > a policy with a history we could get coverage from that but > at the moment they do not have any insurance policies and > leave it to the hosts. It would be interesting to know how > previous hosts have handled that situation. I know New > Jersey had a policy for any events that they might do > including demonstrating. We are still waiting to see if we > can get a rider on the hotel insurance policy. I have never > sent anything to the display before but maybe they include > that they cannot be responsible for loss in the form that > they require exhibitors to sign. I would be pleased to hear > of any suggestions on insurance coverage for events but would > hate to have to up the registration fees to cover it as they > are getting higher and higher each year as it is. Janice > > > Janice Blair > Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info
I love your sense of humor. Wish I had had some myself when I found all this stuff out. I used to naively pay for extra insurance for fancy dresses I'd made for my nieces. What a waste, however small -- I was later informed the most I'd have been reimbursed would be the purchase price of fabric, thread, etc. And in my litany of mishaps with the local USPS, I forgot to mention the day when they delivered mail for seven different addresses here, **not** including my own ... Well, I hope all this helps someone out there figure out what to do with their lace when they ship it. Carolyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info So do you have to have a receipt from a "Pack and Ship" and the number of the packer's certificate that he passed packing school, too? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI contest entries - Insurance
Not in my experience. I have recieved other people's tax refunds, jury summons, and credit cards, to name a few. It took three tries for the Social Security disability form to reach our house (this was for my daughter, who nearly missed her renewal deadline due to the problem). I've called Customer Service multiple times. I've spoken to the Postmaster multiple times (a typical response: do you know how many millions of pieces of mail we ship every day? [n.b. we live in a town of 5,500]) Once I got two pieces of mail one month and a few days after each was mailed -- one piece from Virginia, one piece from Boston. My sister in Virginia was mailed the original Deed of Distribution for our mother's condominium, which we had inherited, in May. We are still waiting for it to arrive. The most galling part of this situation is the utter indifference of the USPS to address problems. But a ray of hope is on the horizon. Our jolly, incompetent Post Master is retiring; perhaps some one with some brains and ability will be appointed??? Personally if it were my lace I would stick it in the suitcase of some nice Arachne or friend and hope for the best. At least then there would be a good chance of knowing what happens to it. Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:37 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] IOLI contest entries - Insurance > > > In a message dated 9/3/05 9:18:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > In the US, people should know that they will not be paid one cent > > unless they have either a sales slip, or else an official > appraisal. > > This sad lesson was something I learned when I shipped some > antiques > > that my mother gave me. > > Dear Lacemakers, > > This is good to know. Fortunately, most of the time what we > mail within the > U.S. gets to the intended recipient in good condition. > > I do think that if I were sending something of considerable > value, I would > take a good photo with a digital camera to "document" it, > before the item went > in the mail. It might be worth checking with your insurance > agent to see if > any coverage is in effect on the homeowner's or renter's > policy before putting > something of great value in jeopardy. I have been known to do this. > > My experience is that museums want values stated before you > lend an item to > an exhibit - and that is for good reason. The hotel where a > lace exhibit is > held pays for some types of insurance. Making sure there is > exhibit insurance > and what it will cover (one way or another) is a > responsibility that starts with > the people sponsoring an event and signing an agreement to > use an exhibit > venue. I have to believe that IOLI leadership has put this > on a list of things a > convention committee must require, one way or another. A > lender should know > from when-to-when a piece of lace is insured for damage or > loss, and whose > insurance covers it. > > This discussion reminds me of the lady who made Hungarian > Halas needlelace of > original design for me. The lace town of Kiskunhalas is some > distance from > Budapest. Postal thieves know that valuable small pieces of > lace are sometimes > mailed from this town, so she exercised her best judgment and > traveled round > trip by train to Budapest to hand-deliver the lace. > > Jeri Ames in Maine USA > Lace and Embroidery Resource Center > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] US postal insurance -- packing info
I haven't heard of it, and when the postal employees offer the insurance, they certainly have never, in my hearing, told the customer of limitations. One other sidelight on my UPS experience (which I do not know if the same applies to the USPS) is that the claims rep didn't like my packing. He told me that even if I'd had an appraisal or a sales slip to verify the value, the claim would still have been denied. "Not a professional packing job", he said. Once again, the clerk who took in my package blythely assured my mother and me, "Don't worry, insured to $xxx value." No further information given. Of course, this isn't a concern if you are shipping a length of lace. But last week I shipped to my niece the large Bucks fan I'd made for my daughter's wedding. It is mounted on expensive fan sticks made by Malcome Cox. I could prove the value, at least for the fan sticks, but I didn't even bother with the insurance, given all the "outs" available to the shippers. (It has arrived safely, **big** sigh of relief! Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:36 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] US postal insurance > > > Carolyn Hastings wrote: > > In the US, people should know that they will not be paid one > cent unless > they have either a sales slip, or else an official appraisal. > This sad > lesson was something I learned when I shipped some antiques > that my mother gave me. The people at UPS glibly told me > "it's automatically insured for $xxx". When the item in > question arrived in a thousand pieces, my claim was denied. > As the claims person informed me, I could have shipped > anything, even the broken item. (I've yet to figure out how > an official appraisal would have helped in that case!). I > checked the rules at the US postal service, and was told > that the same applied. > > This is interesting. I once borrowed a book from the IOLI > library which is > actually selling for a largish sum on the internet. On the > return trip I tried > to insure it for the largish sum and was told that the > insurance would pay > only if the item was damaged, but not if it was lost and > simply never arrived. > This seemed rather odd to me. Does the US Postal service > ever pay off for an > insured item? > Devon > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI contest entries
In the US, people should know that they will not be paid one cent unless they have either a sales slip, or else an official appraisal. This sad lesson was something I learned when I shipped some antiques that my mother gave me. The people at UPS glibly told me "it's automatically insured for $xxx". When the item in question arrived in a thousand pieces, my claim was denied. As the claims person informed me, I could have shipped anything, even the broken item. (I've yet to figure out how an official appraisal would have helped in that case!). I checked the rules at the US postal service, and was told that the same applied. A word to the wise, Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Brenda Paternoster > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jeri Ames > Cc: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] IOLI contest entries > > > Insurance can be a very grey area when you try to value a piece of > lace. It's worth what someone will pay for it and that's how > insurance > companies make their valuations. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] katrina
Dear Eva, This isn't exactly lace, but as you have offered your comments ... As one American, I thank you for your kind words. I personally feel very upset at the apparent lack of planning and urgency in responding to the growing crisis -- especially on our federal level. And news about the offers of international aid, and reluctance of our government to accept, was burried deep in our Boston newspaper -- so I think most people don't even know that we could have the use of extra helicopters, for instance, from Canada. Many countries have offered resources. Meanwhile, people have no water, no waste facilities, no food, and are stranded in 90+ degree heat. Mr. Trittin's words aren't known to most people -- I hadn't seen a whisper of it and had to search on line. I have to say that although his words are harsh, and his timing is not good, similar things are being uttered by Americans here -- just tempered by a lot of sympathy and dismay. We do need to confront reality, and it **is** going to be painful. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Eva Von Der Bey > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] katrina > > > Dear people in Louisiana, Missisippi, Alabama, from suffering > New Orleans and destroyed Biloxy, my heart and thoughts are > with you. I still remember my sister shoveling sand in > flooded Dresden only three years ago, trying in vane to > defend a school against the water, leaving the city at the > last possible moment with husband and two children, wading > beside the car over the flooded bridge to find where the road was. > But this, and the drowned valleys in bavaria, austria and > switzerland were nothing against what you suffer. How > dreadful sad, and even sader that those who help are in > danger from the mob, from those who try to get a personal > advantage from such a desaster. I hope you get help, hope > your President is strong enough to accept foreign help > (generators, helicopters, whatever might be useful). Most of > our today's newspapers found harsh words about Mr Trittin's > really disgusting comments. In this moment, it's absolutly > unimportend wether he might be right or wrong or whatever. > It's just not the time for anything besides solidarity, > grief, and help where possible. Like the newspapers and > myself, most of my friends and collegueas are ashamed of this > politician (not for the first time). We are sad about so many > lost lifes and destroyed homes and broken dreams. In our > plant in Mobile, Alabama, no collegueas are missing, but some > lost their homes, afak. The company doubles every donation > from employees (as was done after the tsunami in december). > Money can't substitute anything lost. Only perhaps prevent > further losses. Please, don't mistake the lousy words of one > bad politician for the large majority of a country or a > continent. In one world, such a tragedy has a meaning for > all. So sorry for all who suffer, from hurrican and too much > water, or too little water and food elsewhere. Eva, from Germany > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Montreal Lace Contest
Does that mean that a table ribbon in Quebec is by definition always less than xx inches wide, and xx inches long, regardless of the setting (a much longer table, for instance?) If so, I still think that perhaps a more interesting (for the international community of lacemakers) might have been a more flexible definition that still could be recognized as a table ribbon. Remember those of us who wanted to define lace as only that made with certain neutral-colored threads? Definitions of even the most traditional objects are subject to evolution, don't you think? All this said, I hope this doesn't sound like some sort of attack on the Quebec hosting group. Just food for thought, that's all. Best, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Laurie Hughes > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:06 AM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Montreal Lace Contest > > > Dear ones, > > As I understand it, the table ribbon, which is the focus of > the lace contest, is a traditional lace piece in Quebec. I > may be wrong, I'm judging on how it was presented, how all > the people from Quebec seemed to know what it was instinctively, etc. > > That's why the stringent guidelines, measurements, etc. (You > can't expect people to accept just anything when their > tradition has a very precise definitionwhat would pierogi > be without potatoes?) > > I think that needlelacers could, for example, explore > Hardanger (with exquisite needlelace filling capacity), or > Filet lace, Carrickmacross or try their hand at Battenberg. > True, it doesn't lend itself to Point De Gaze, but there are > several possibilities for our Needle-Wranglers. > > Knitting, crochet and even tatting should be do-able...but > you can't put it off at all. > > I'm sure they will have lots of participants, there were lots > of sparkly eyes when it was announced and much putting > together of heads. > > We are all lacers. There aren't that many of us in the > world. We are proud of each other and supportive of those > who are working long hours > for us. Thank goodness that Montreal wants to hold a Convention! > Bless them all. It's hard work and they didn't have to do it. > > Lace in Peace, > Laurie > > -- > Laurie J Hughes > Bobbin Lace, Social History, etc > Metro Boston, MA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RE: LAce history - US
Dagmar, Either this suggestion (Native American lace), or even the Montana lace (at the Billings house) would be more appropriate than Ipswich lace. Ipswich lace was made only during a very narrow period, in a very specific place. I'm pretty sure Michigan wasn't even settled by anyone except a very few frontiers men (French -- but definitely not Ipswich lace makers!) during the 1790's-early 1800's. In this context, it's easy to convey an inaccurate impression. Just by the fact that you represent an activity in an official or semi-official capacity, people absorb what you're teaching them. In this case, not only lace, but the context in which it was made. Sometimes we're so eager to spread our lace "gospel" that we disregard, at some cost, the accuracy of our portrayal. Someone once said to me that none of this matters, since the story of history is always being revised anyway. She thought that since there is no absolute historical truth, that accuracy was unimportant. Make up any story you like, in her opinion, it's all the same -- entertainment, in essence. I disagree. I think it's worth the time and effort to get it right. Best regards, Carolyn Sometime-18th century reenactor Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Helen Bell > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] RE: LAce history - US > > > Dagmar, > > For general lace history in the US, you're looking at an > awfully big subject to research. I'm glad you're trying to > perhaps (hopefully) narrow it to just Minnesota for now. > > Further to Jeri's suggestion of the Ipswich Lace Industry > book, there was also an article in PieceWork several years > ago on the laces made by Native Americans. The reference is: > > Dwyer,M. "Sybil Carter's legacy: Native American lace", in, > PieceWork 1(3), November-December 1994, pp 66-71. > > Good luck with the demonstration and research.! > > Cheers, > Helen, Aussie Libararian in Denver > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI convention - more comments
Yes, and don't forget, Weronika, that we were saved from quite a long wait on Friday afternoon by using the freight elevator (I rationalized that we were both carrying freight, with all the pillows, stands, and supplies). The uncomfortable thing was that the hotel had booked the room for use beginning at 5:00, and our class ended at 4:30. that meant that the cleaning staff wanted us out immediately after the class so that they could clean for the next group. Just packing quickly was a bit of a strain, plus wishing to clean up the messes left behind a bit. But all week some of us had been avoiding the elevator crowds by lacing for a bit (up to half an hour) after the end of class. So, if possible, it would be a good thing if classroom space were booked at least one half-hour beyond the end of class, if only to allow time to comfortably pack up. And I do second everyone's comments about what a great convention this was, for me it was also a dream vacation. Congratulations and many thank-you's to RMLG. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Weronika Patena > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:35 PM > To: Clay Blackwell > Cc: Alice Howell; lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] IOLI convention - more comments > > > The freight elevator sure was useful... Still, if we all > started using it, we'd just have 5 elevators > instead of 4, which wouldn't be that much of an improvement. > Next time I'll try to get a room on a reasonably low floor so > I can use the stairs - the 11th was a bit much... But just > going to class early worked fine - the only time I ended up > in a really big elevator line was after the banquet, but that > just left me time to walk around and look at what lace > everyone was wearing . > > Weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] S and Z - Choosing & caring for unusual materials
Brenda -- This is probably nothing to do with the price of beans in China (that is, not significant) but on a lot of sewing machines (I have a Singer, a Viking, and a Bernina) the spool is not free to rotate; therefore the thread revolves around the spool as it is pulled off. Which is interesting to me -- I hadn't thought of it before -- why doesn't the thread get overtwisted as it seems to if I wind a bobbin in that manner?? Oh well, the mysteries of life. Regards, Carolyn > > There are a variety of spool shapes around and they all seem > to work on > sewing machines because the spool is free to rotate on the > spindle. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] S and Z - Choosing & caring for unusual materials
This is getting more complicated than my small brain can absorb, but if I understand your thrust -- You need to consider that (at least in hand spinning, I don't know about commerically produced thread) that the fibers are spun one way, then plied from the last end back again. And then wound into whatever skein/ball one ends up with. If anything like hand spinning, I think the whole discussion is reduced to "my mother told me ... Because who knows how many times back and forth the plies have been taken? Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jane Partridge > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] S and Z - Choosing & caring for unusual materials > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes > >My take is that it is the way thread is twisted in the manufacturing > >process > >that matters. You want to thread it in a needle in the same > direction as it > >comes off the manufacturer's spinning equipment. The tiny > fiber ends will lay > >down better in that direction and not be bent backwards > (against the grain). > > The end that comes off the manufacturer's spinning equipment > is the end that is at the start of the reel/cop it is wound > onto, not the end... in hand spinning (spindle - I haven't > experience of wheel) the fibre ends face away from the end > being added to - ie towards the spindle. It follows that if > this end was then wound onto a reel (rather than being made > into a "butterfly" on the hand from which you can draw the correct > end) then the end coming from the reel would have the fibre > ends facing the needle, not away from it. This is why you > pull thread from the centre of a skein, and wool from the > centre of the ball. > > In the manufacturing process, is the resulting product wound > immediately onto the small, 100m (etc) reels we buy, or is > there an intermediate large cop (after all, most thread is > produced for garment manufacturers who use much larger > quantities - the domestic market is a spin-off, if you will > excuse the pun)? > > My grandmother (wardrobe mistress to the Royal Shakespeare > Touring Company during the early 1900s) always said to thread > the needle with the "end from the reel". This is ambiguous - > the end away from the reel, or the end nearest to the reel? > Using reeled threads on sewing machines shows that some > threads "shed" more than others, (even threads of the same > manufacturer!) so I suspect that these threads are wound the > other way onto the reel (ie the rough end comes off first). > Presumably a case of always test the nap direction before > starting a new reel? > -- > Jane Partridge > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: > 28/07/2005 > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Waxing thread for bobbin lace and threading the needle -- just twist
Hello, Here's another viewpoint to think over: It is really important to wind bobbins so that the thread is not pulled off the top of the spool. You need to devise a method that will allow the spool to turn as you remove the thread. Any other way will either add or subtract twist, which will give you kinky, tangled thread. There are some nifty little spool holders that allow the spools to twist as the thread unwinds. A simple one can also be made at home with a small block of wood and a nail to hold the spool. And fabric stores hold little thread holders (also a place for your needles and thimble) that will work. As a matter of fact, people who have trouble with breaking threads would do well to regularly check their threads to make sure that the turning of the bobbins during the lacemaking does not untwist the thread. If it does, then just re-twist. I could almost guarantee your thread breaking problems will disappear. For that matter, the same is true in hand sewing. I always wax my natural threads, and often use thread heaven on sythetic threads. Jeri mentioned this but with so much information in her posting perhaps some of you missed it. My mother taught me fifty years ago to thread the needle from the end that comes first off the spool, but in my experience it doesn't make much difference. (I've always wondered if it is a bit of an old wives tale without much substance). And course coatings such as beeswax discourage the thread from untwisting. But if I'm caught without the wax (read, too lazy to go get it) I find that re-twisting the thread regularly as I sew eliminates the tendency of the thread to tangle and knot on itself. Perspective of a long-time spinner, Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Catastrophy
I remember a story > David (Downunder) told us some years ago, about having his pillow > dumped upside down (at a demo? I think it was), with a Bucks (if I > remember a-right) pattern on it, and close to 100 pairs (and some of > the threads broke too, all in the same place)... I had something similar happen to me when I went to demonstrate at the Big E. I didn't have time to fuss with the bobbins so I just looped the broken threads on some temporary pins behind the work, and proceeded as if nothing had happened. No one remarked on it, if they noticed at all. And the funny thing is that, years later, I've taken out that length of lace (I worked on it for years, an inch or two at a time when demonstrating) and it doesn't even look that awful. I wouldn't put it in a competetion to be judged, but I am putting it on a little baby cap for my granddaughter to wear in parades or reenactments with our 18th century group. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace stuff
Hi, Jenny put in one extra "lace" in her web address (she must really love lace, I guess ...) I think her link is meant to be: http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/block.html At least that is what seems to work for me. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jenny Brandis > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:43 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Lace stuff > > > Hi everyone > > The website is now updated to show improvements in the > instructions on > making the 9 block pillow and the roller pillow. There have > been additions > to the Lace downloads and the July and local Ag show pages > added. There is > now a date next to the pages links so that you can tell at a > glance if you > have missed anything. > > All at http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/lace.html > > > Jenny Brandis > Kununurra, Western Australia > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: > 7/22/2005 > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Silly price for a lacemaking book on ebay
For those of you in the US, I notice that IOLI owns a copy for members to borrow. I tried to check the Lace Guild for those of you in the UK but can't find a listing of library holdings on their web site. But that sure would beat that "crazy price". Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Barbara Joyce > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:35 PM > To: Jean Nathan; Lace > Subject: Re: [lace] Silly price for a lacemaking book on ebay > > > Jean, Thanks for posting about that book. I tried mightily > (and insanely) to win that copy, but as usual, at the last > second, I was outbid by a sniper! > > My only comfort in the matter is that I made her pay dearly > for this copy--the winning bid was 140.01 GBP, equivalent to > $244.61 USD. > > Ah well, someday I'll have a copy of my own! > > Barbara Joyce > Snoqualmie, WA > USA > > > There's a copy of "CHANTILLY BOBBIN LACE TECHNIEK EN PATRONEN" for > > sale on ebay - the auction ends at 18.57 BST. The current bid is > > GBP56.00! I know it's hard to get, and I'd quite like > it, but not > > at that price. > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8319386196&rd=1&s > > spagenam > > e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > or search for item number 8319386196 > > > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > > line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Antique vestment artist
Curiouser and curiouser -- on the lace fairy web site there is another painting with I swear the exact same lacemaker -- labelled La dentelliere d'Caudry by Jean Skupien. Maybe this lady went around modelling, or maybe all the local artists got together and painted her at work? Or is this the exact same painting with a lot more light in it? Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:36 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Antique vestment artist > > > Vis a vis the artist on the antique vestment site, many > thanks to the > Lacefairy, www.lacefairy.com because she has this picture of > a lacemaker posted. It > is by Panchet dit Bellerose and according to > _http://membres.lycos.fr/sitelle/lace/peintre.htm_ > (http://membres.lycos.fr/sitelle/lace/peintre.htm) , > another website, is in the Musee Baron Gerard, Bayeux. > Devon > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale
I think that might mean "lace" such as a narrow woven strip (as in shoe lace, although in this case it would have to wider than that). And although your computer states that I sent the first email (not always as smart as they think they are, computers) it was Devon, and I'm glad to see that the body of your email is addressed to her ... I was just wondering about the painting of the lacemaker that appears on their lace web page. Best, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:00 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale > > > In a message dated 7/16/2005 6:29:08 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >In an internet search in which I am attempting to identify a > > >piece of lace > > >to be included in my class, I ran across the following > > >web-site which sells > > >antique lace vestments. They report the news that a Point de > > >France lace alb > > >bottom has sold this year for $40,000, a record,. The site > > >also contains the > > >helpful suggestion that priests are now taller than they used > > >to be and it might > > > be best not to buy an antique lace bottomed alb, but rather > > >to buy an > > >antique lace alb bottom and have your own supersize alb > > >constructed locally for > > >the priest in question. > > > > > >_http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html_ > > >(http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html) > > > > > >Devon > > > > > > > > Wow, what beautiful lace -- Thanks for the information, > Devon! It's inspiring > to see such lovely, intricate lace is still being bought and > used in such > settings (presumably), as it was in past centuries. > > Speaking of lace and religion I was researching the other > day, and I came > across a reference to lace in the Old Testament -- or so it > appears, though it's > not entirely clear to me what is being described here -- if > anyone can > clarify, please do! > > Exodus 28: "And thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron thy > brother for glory > and for beauty . . . And thou shalt take two onyx stones, and > grave on them > the names of the children of Israel . . . And thou shalt put > the two stones > upon the shoulders of the ephod for stones of memorial unto > the children of > Israel: and Aaron shall bear their names before the LORD upon > his two shoulders for > a memorial . . . And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, > and grave upon it, > like the engravings of a signet, HOLINESS TO THE LORD. And > thou shalt put it > on a blue lace, that it may be upon the mitre; upon the > forefront of the mitre > it shall be. And it shall be upon Aaron's forehead, that > Aaron may bear the > iniquity of the holy things, which the children of Israel > shall hallow in all > their holy gifts; and it shall be always upon his forehead, > that they may be > accepted before the LORD" (vv. 2, 9, 12, 36-38). > > Ricki T > Utah USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale
It's worth looking at this web site just for the portrait of the French lace maker!! Do any of you recognize the artist? Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:42 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale > > > In an internet search in which I am attempting to identify a > piece of lace > to be included in my class, I ran across the following > web-site which sells > antique lace vestments. They report the news that a Point de > France lace alb > bottom has sold this year for $40,000, a record,. The site > also contains the > helpful suggestion that priests are now taller than they used > to be and it might > be best not to buy an antique lace bottomed alb, but rather > to buy an > antique lace alb bottom and have your own supersize alb > constructed locally for > the priest in question. > > _http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html_ > (http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html) > > Devon > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale
It's worth looking at this web site just for the portrait of the French lace maker!! Do any of you recognize the artist? Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:42 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] antique lace vestments for sale > > > In an internet search in which I am attempting to identify a > piece of lace > to be included in my class, I ran across the following > web-site which sells > antique lace vestments. They report the news that a Point de > France lace alb > bottom has sold this year for $40,000, a record,. The site > also contains the > helpful suggestion that priests are now taller than they used > to be and it might > be best not to buy an antique lace bottomed alb, but rather > to buy an > antique lace alb bottom and have your own supersize alb > constructed locally for > the priest in question. > > _http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html_ > (http://www.french-yesterdays.com/alsurmor.html) > > Devon > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] "Orange Blossom lace"
Hello, Thank you all for the suggestions. I am going to Denver so will try to pick up a copy from Holly. Also, a copy of Louise Colgan's wedding portfolio is on the way. So I think I've made a good start on my way to producing my garter! Thank you all again, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Ligeti > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] "Orange Blossom lace" > > > Yes, I believe Holly van Sciver will have a few copies of > Orange Blossom > Lace for sale at Denver. > I was the person who suggested Ina la Bas contact her > regarding selling the > book in the USA! (Guilty as charged!!! :)) ) > I agree, It is pretty lace, and the basic design is adapted > to insertions, > edgings, mats, etc. The Wedding Horseshoe is featured in > the latest Aust. > Lace Guild Magazine. > > Regards from Liz in Melbourne > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] popular uses for lace & "the woman"
She's Sally Barry, so far she has published three volumes of patterns based on the lace dealer's sample book. She used to put a strip of lace along the top of a shirt pocket. Best, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:23 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: Re: [lace] popular uses for lace > > > A friend of mine makes lace edgings and uses them to frame pictures. > The mat is wider than the lace, so it shows outside and inside the > edging as well as through the lace holes. It's a lovely effect. > > While most of my lace is samples (I like figuring out how its > done, not > having lace products), I've made lace to edge the neckline or yoke of > blouses, a lace fan, Christmas tree ornaments and suncatchers > (to hang > in a window, with a colored-plastic "jewel" that catches the light). > > The woman (sorry, I'm blanking on her name) in the New England Lace > Guild who worked up all those samples from the Luton lace dealer's > pattern book used her samples along the top of pockets on blouses. I > thought that was a marvelous idea for using samples. > > Robin P. > Los Angeles, California, USA > (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] popular uses for lace
One thing not mentioned yet: many times I've seen lace made for weddings -- garters, veils/headpieces, etc. I made a very large Bucks fan designed by Bridget Cook which my daughter carried with her bouquet at her wedding. And fans are very popular, just for display, wedding not needed. Lace is often attached to handkerchiefs and baby bonnets. There is a way of attaching lace to a handkerchief and turning the whole thing into a bonnet for a baby's christening, in such a way that the stitching can be undone to be used eventually at the wedding of the recepient. I used to see a pattern for a lace strip that was used to decorate Christmas cakes (don't think I could bear to do that one). Also I've seen lace used on wall switch covers. And lace is always popular as Christmas tree and other decorations. There are designs out there for free-standing lace lace decorations, i.e. the nativity sets designed by Jana Novak. A few more ideas, hope I'm not repeating. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] A visual treat on eBay...
Hello, I am very curious. This doesn't look like anything from the 17th century to me. For one thing, it is quite small. Any handkerchiefs that I've ever heard of from prior to the 19th c. were quite large. Also, I was under the impression that corners in lace were not developed until the later half of the nineteenth/twentieth century. I notice that there is no way to get a close look at the lace itself. Any comments to enlighten us, from some of you experts out there?? Thanks, Carolyn Carolyn W. Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:30 PM > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] A visual treat on eBay... > > > Hello all fellow lacemakers!! > > I have just spotted a treat on eBay. I am not in a position > to rush in to bid on this item, but I am sure that any of you > would enjoy seeing it, considering the id and appraisal given > by our own Kate Henry!! This is quite an old piece of lace, > and in very good shape, AND the pictures are worth looking at!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=362&ite m=7332317820 Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Sally Barry's book in the UK
Hello, I have seen Sally Barry today and have a few copies of her Luton Treasury II which I am happy to bring with me on Tuesday to the UK, for anyone who would like one. Anyone who wants one can pay me in sterling, check or money order. The cost of the book is $30, plus actual postage from Stockton-on-Tees. We can just use the currency converter on the internet -- we both win, since the banks always charge more to take the money, and then give less back on the other end. I reckon that the cost today for the book works out to 16.75 GBP, plus the postage. This is in response to the posting on Arachne from someone in the UK looking for the book. Sally also has paypal from her website, but then there is postage to pay from the US. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] a little light on the subject
Hello, I have all kinds of lamps, accumulated over the years. Some extremely expensive. A few years ago I was persuaded to try out a desk lamp sold by Ikea and was amazed how much I liked it. It is now the only one I use. Absolutely no shadows on my work! And cost only $15. A heavy iron base into which is placed one of the spring-tensioned extension lamps with an ordinary incandescent bulb. I admit I was very skeptical at first, but after trying it out I was sold. I like not having the lamp on my pillow, and it effective on any size pillow. So, I agree with Steph -- try out (if possible) and then buy -- what suits one person may not be the best solution for another. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA Steph Peters wrote: > But what is a 'good light' is a matter of personal > preference... If there are IKEA shops in Oz, they do a little stand up > halogen that's very cheap. > > And the same applies to magnifiers. Some make me feel > nauseous and some work fine. My guess is that imperfections > in some lenses interact badly with the astigmatism > corrections in my glasses. > > Regards Steph > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Roll
Tamara, If I understand what you are describing when you wrote: > BTW, bobbin rolls don't work very well for those of the > Danish bobbins > which are thin all-over except for the final bulb; you have to allow > for the width of the bulb in determining the width of the pocekt, but > that means that the pocket is way too wide for the rest of the bobbin. I believe that you can solve the problem by putting the bobbins "head to foot" in the pockets. That way the bobbins occupy a uniform amount of space all the way top to bottom. I have found I've been able to keep all kinds of bobbins in the same pocket this way -- even Midlands and Binche can go into the same sized pocket. I also find that once threaded the bobbins stay in better order this way, than when they are side by side. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Roll
Tamara, If I understand what you are describing when you wrote: > BTW, bobbin rolls don't work very well for those of the > Danish bobbins > which are thin all-over except for the final bulb; you have to allow > for the width of the bulb in determining the width of the pocekt, but > that means that the pocket is way too wide for the rest of the bobbin. I believe that you can solve the problem by putting the bobbins "head to foot" in the pockets. That way the bobbins occupy a uniform amount of space all the way top to bottom. I have found I've been able to keep all kinds of bobbins in the same pocket this way -- even Midlands and Binche can go into the same sized pocket. I also find that once threaded the bobbins stay in better order this way, than when they are side by side. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI Convention/Meeting
Robin, Thank you for your response, and thanks to others who replied privately. Mostly I decided to write to alert anyone interested of this problem, so that it could be remedied if IOLI sees fit. As you say, boring business meetings (in this case, mostly by-law changes). So, as you said, why would someone want to "crash" anyway?? Maybe out of curiosity, or interest, in the organization? Does it need to be a nefarious purpose? And, as I said, I stated immediately to the "tender" who showed up to challenge me that all I wanted to do was to sit in the back of the room, that I was there really to keep my friend company -- and the only reason **she** wanted to be there was to say farewell to some friends who she wouldn't see for a while. The evangelizing comes not only during the rest of the convention. It also comes when there is any choice between a user-friendly solution and one that isn't. On the scale of things, it is a **little** organization. One solution could be a "visitors' gallery" where observer/non/new members could sit. That shouldn't be too hard. Isn't it a whole lot better to encourage involvement, than to shut people out? And whether a long-standing member **should** have been offended at being almost thrown out, all I can tell you is she really was. I can't imagine that it would have been a huge problem if she had been lying through her teeth, and had fraudulently voted. Were the votes all that controversial and all that close?? Your comments about some sort of bruhaha before the convention, and possibly someone(s) wanting to make a fuss, remind me sadly of attempts to limit speech at our current political conventions. I have faith that the chair of IOLI could have handled even such an eventuality with grace, although I didn't detect any whiffs of such a move while there. My point is, I think any lacemaking organization should do everything possible to avoid offending present/potential members. It just isn't worth it. Just my 2 cents worth. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Panza, Robin > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:56 AM > To: 'lace-digest' > Subject: RE: [lace] IOLI Convention/Meeting > > > >>>From: Carolyn Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > When I went into the meeting room I explained to the people > who greeted me that I was a new member and would just like to > sit in the back and observe, that I was there mostly to keep > my friend company. <<< > > I believe it's not a matter of secrecy. Once you're in, > there's no way to separate you from the voting membership. > Once inside, it would be hard to prevent a "visitor" from > orating and debating; someone can crash the meeting in order > to espouse their own agenda. And since vote is by voice, it > would be hard to prevent them from voting, so the > organization has to limit the attendence. Business meetings > are, for the most part, rather boring but necessary. It's > hard to get voting members to attend (the real reason for > checking ID at the door is to make sure they have a quorum of > convention attendees). It's also hard to imagine someone > ineligible to vote wanting so badly to attend, unless it's to > influence the matters before the membership. Given the > brouhaha on Arachne before the convention, this year's > meeting could have been more in danger of such disruption > than most years. > > The evangelizing is taking place throughout the rest of the > convention--I don't think a business meeeting is going to win > new members to the organization. > > > >>>Another friend told me that although she had been a member in good > standing for twenty years, she was told she couldn't enter > because she didn't have the right ribbon, or wasn't on the > list, or something. <<< > > Snafus to happen, and sometimes a name falls off a membership > list. It hardly seems worth dropping out over, but that's just me. > > > Robin P. > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA > http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI Convention/Meeting
Hello, This was my first IOLI convention. The class I took (Carrickmacross) was terrific. I loved meeting old friends and making some new. There were some glitches (especially annoying were last minute schedule changes), which I hope will give food for thought for those planning next year's convention. What I really found disconcerting was that for the first and only time in my 59 years of life, I found myself being "bounced" from a meeting. I agreed to accompany a friend to the IOLI annual meeting, although I had joined only two days prior. When I went into the meeting room I explained to the people who greeted me that I was a new member and would just like to sit in the back and observe, that I was there mostly to keep my friend company. But, a rule is a rule and I guess the rule is that you have to be on the "official" list to be present at the IOLI Annual Meeting. Funny, I do wonder what the secrecy is all about. Of course I didn't expect to vote, but to just observe from the back of the room? How silly. Lacemaking is a very small world, and I would think that related organizations need to be in evangelizing mode. Another friend told me that although she had been a member in good standing for twenty years, she was told she couldn't enter because she didn't have the right ribbon, or wasn't on the list, or something. She was allowed in after telling them that in that case she had paid her last dues. All I have to say is, me too. Regards, Carolyn Hastings - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] laces used by judges
Hello, I've never seen or heard of it in the US, and not for cravats for political office holders, either. A very nice tradition, I loved the lace on the Spanish judge's sleeves. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carolina G. Gallego > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:54 AM > To: arachne > Subject: [lace] laces used by judges > > Hello all, > Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on > attorneys or judges dress. > Sure I did not express myself appropriate and my question did not make > sense for you, so I had no reply. My nears say that I am obstinate, so I > am here again asking you: > Does it exists the tradition to sew a lace application on the border of > sleeves of judges dress? > Here in Spain has remained the tradition and I have upload a picture on > the page: > http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/punetas.html > > I would like to hear from you, as I am curious if this tradition only > survive in Spain or in other parts of the world too. > > Kind regards. > > Carolina. Barcelona. Spain > > -- > > > Carolina de la Guardia > http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/ > > Private apartments for rent in Spanish Coast > http://www.winterinspain.com > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Christening gown fabrics
Hello, I just thought I might chip in here, food for thought. I know all of the conservation rules, and I also know so many exceptions -- makes you wonder. Anyway, a couple of months ago we christened my new granddaughter, who was the fourth child to wear the gown my husband was christened in. He is 67 years old. The overdress is machine lace, still in good condition with no tears, although there is a stain from his orange juice coming back up. The underdress is silk, also still in very good condition after all of this time -- no tears or breaks in the fabric. This despite being kept in the worst of conditions (a wooden drawer in a very dirty coal mining district), so go figure. I know the old silk (the really old stuff) contained heavy metals which hastened the break down of the fabric. Don't know why this lasted so long, but I also have a sheet from the 16th century (a laying-out sheet) which is also in just as good or better condition, kept under the same circumstances. Just another 2 cents worth -- I usually go the route Clay recommends, but I'm not sure it really matters as much as we think. Regards, Carolyn PS I think silk is just as much as cotton or linen. The difference is it is a protein fiber, while cotton and linen is cellulose. Think of how durable wool is, and that is a protein fiber. Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Clay Blackwell > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:13 PM > To: Jean Nathan; Lace > Subject: RE: [lace] Christening gown fabrics > > Hello Lynn - and Jean ! > > I am having the most delightful summer working one or two days a week with > fabrics in a quilt shop, and my experience (lifelong - not just this > summer) with fabrics has taught me this... > > Silks, as stunning and elegant as they are, do not stand the test of time > very well. They are, after all, a truly organic substance which does not > withstand the stresses of folding, extreme heat, extreme cold, extreme > dryness, extreme damp, organic invasions (molds & mildew)... in other > words, they really are "high maintenance" if they are to be preserved to > any degree at all. Cotton and linen, OTH, are sturdy. While they are > natural fibers, they are *fibers*, and as such are much sturdier than > silk. > Linen is almost never spun finely enough to use as a fabric for a > Christening gown. But the lawns and batistes that you can get from > high-quality fine cottons are absolutely stunning (and also more expensive > than you'd expect - but WORTH it!!) > > So my suggestion is to find a shop with high quality fabrics which are > marketed to the Heirloom Sewers in our midst. As you are in Oz, I > recommend you go to a shop that sells magazines and get the latest issue > of > "Smocking and Embroidery", which is produced in Australia and the > companies > which advertise in that magazine are going to be right up your alley - and > on your continent!! > > No connection to any of these resources, but just lending a (hopefully) > helping hand!! > > Clay > > Clay Blackwell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace jacket on ebay
US people call the undergarment, almost universally I think, an undershirt -- in all weathers. Of course, they don't necessarily wear an undershirt in all weathers. ;-) I wouldn't think that the garment in questions is either "waistcoat" or "vest" (depending on your side of the pond) since it has very short sleeves. I think it is a short sleeved jacket. "Waistcoat" or "vest" to me denotes sleeveless. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Sue Babbs > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [lace] Lace jacket on ebay > > > > I was questioning whether it is a jacket - or a vest? > > > 'Waistcoat' is the English equivalent of the US word 'vest'. > The photos show it quite clearly as a sleeveless jacket. > > But what do US people call the undergarment (worn under > shirts & blouses, in colder weather), which the English call > a 'vest'? Sue > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Mary Queen of Scots (was bobbin lace in movies)
A friend visiting from England and I went recently to the Isabella Steward Gardener Museum recently. The guide that was given to us stated that the Museum had "collections" of lace. Of course we were excited -- but the real collection was on display in a case in the far corner of one of the rooms, roped off from getting closer than about twenty feet. "Security". So, our appetites whetted and feeling considerably frustrated, we started on a hunt for some lace that would be in a more accessible place. We did finally spot a very small piece of brownish-colored lace, very close to being a rag -- but it was described as having been made by Mary Queen of Scots! So that was fun, even if we were very sceptical about that atribution. So, anyone who gets close to that area (within easy walking distance of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston), take a look and see what you think. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bridget Marrow > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [lace] Mary Queen of Scots (was bobbin lace in movies) > > > on Sun, 11 Apr 2004 Johanna Brown wrote: > I was watching an old movie with Catherine Hepburn as > Mary, Queen of > Scots > and in once scene where Mary is in her drawing room with her > ladies in waiting, one of the ladies is doing bobbin lace > > Dear Johanna and esteemed Spiders, > > I'm sure I saw this film some time ago, probably on TV, but I > don't remember > spotting a lace pillow. The film certainly wasn't > historically accurate as > far as the plot was concerned! > > Bobbin lace was of course made at the time and the large frame for > needlepoint sounds just right. It is known that Mary Queen of > Scots was a > skilled needlewoman, some of her needlepoiunt embroideries > still exist, and > she also made Lacis, but it is unlikely that she herself made > bobbin lace. > There's a lovely story of her annoying her Council (all men, > natch) by > working at her embroidery during Council Meetings. They > found it (and her) > most distracting. It's as if Maggie Thatcher had taken her > knitting into > the House of Commons! > > There's an excellent book by Margaret Swain called "The > Needlework of Mary > Queen of Scots". My copy is a reprint, published in 1986 by > Ruth Bean. ISBN > 0903585 227. I'm pretty sure there was an earlier American > edition. Its > well worth getting from a library if you can. > > Back to the movie... > > Sherry, > > the title of the film was MARY OF SCOTLAND, released in 1936. > I think its > fair to say it was not Katherine Hepburn's finest hour. > Neither the script > nor the supporting cast did her justice - but that's just my > opinion. I > hope you can track down a copy and make up your own mind. > > Bridget, in Watford, England > > _ > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland
Hi Jay, I am so glad you noticed this problem -- I couldn't figure out the problem, myself. I went back to the orignial message, which had no breaks when sent out, but when I got it back, ,the breaks had been inserted. How infuriating. Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jay Ekers > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland > > > The URL is on more than one line. > If you copy the separate lines into a text file; delete the > carriage returns so that the URL is on one line; copy the > one line; and put it in the address line of the web page, you > will be immediately shown the enlarged picture of the > painting. I know, I had your problem until I realised there > was 'more to it than meets the eye' :) Jay, Sydney Australia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The Lacemaker, 1665-60 > > Nicolaes Maes (Dutch, 1634-1693) > > The Friedsam Collection, Bequest of Michael Friedsam, 1931 > (32.100.5) > > http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp? > > dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark > > =1&item=32%2E100%2E5 > > > > The Lacemaker > > Bernhard Keil (Danish, 1624-1687) > > Bequest of Edward Fowles, 1971 (1971.115.2) > > http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp? > > dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark > > =4&item=1971%2E115%2E2 > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland
I don't know if I'm off base here, but a friend and I spotted these paintings this summer, while we were visiting the Metropolitan Museum of Art: The Lacemaker, 1665-60 Nicolaes Maes (Dutch, 1634-1693) The Friedsam Collection, Bequest of Michael Friedsam, 1931 (32.100.5) http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark =1&item=32%2E100%2E5 The Lacemaker Bernhard Keil (Danish, 1624-1687) Bequest of Edward Fowles, 1971 (1971.115.2) http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark =4&item=1971%2E115%2E2 Hope I'm not being redundant, as I've not read every response -- most of those I have read seem to relate to fictional accounts, this may give a different perspective (but maybe Devon has already given out this information!). Anyway, I love these paintings!! Best Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA : > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tamara P. Duvall > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 7:21 PM > To: lace Arachne > Subject: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland > > > On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote: > > > Since the person asked for a "depiction" does she mean a book or a > > picture? > > I have wondered about that myself... I think "sightings" of > lacemaking > in literature (mostly fiction, and mostly along the same lines of > misunderstanding that the worst of your press-persons showed at the > Hasbrouck Heights convention ) are somewhere on > Lori-the-Lacefairy' > webpage. As are many visual "sightings" which had been reported here > over the years. > > > At the Met last summer they had an engraving of a 17 > century lacemaker > > by an artist whose name I always get wrong. It is something like > > Golthius, or Goltzius. Tamara wrote it down! > > The engraving was on loan from the Rijksmuseum. > > The *exhibition* was of (Hendrik?) Goltzius (now you have me > wondering > about the spelling of the name ) and most of the work was his, but > the engraving in question was by a student of his, Jan Saenredam, one > of the series called "4 seasons"; there was nothing on the caption to > say which of the seasons was depicted, but I'm guessing "summer". > > I'm not sure how accurate it is for the 17th century, either. > The dates > given for Saenredam were: "ca 1565-1607", and I don't > remember any date > given for the picture itself; it could have been done before > 1600 (and, > in any case, he didn't "see" *much* of the 17th c -- less than a > decade...) > > - > Tamara P Duvall > Lexington, Virginia, USA > Formerly of Warsaw, Poland > http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland
I don't know if I'm off base here, but a friend and I spotted these paintings this summer, while we were visiting the Metropolitan Museum of Art: The Lacemaker, 1665-60 Nicolaes Maes (Dutch, 1634-1693) The Friedsam Collection, Bequest of Michael Friedsam, 1931 (32.100.5) http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark =1&item=32%2E100%2E5 The Lacemaker Bernhard Keil (Danish, 1624-1687) Bequest of Edward Fowles, 1971 (1971.115.2) http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&zoom=0&full=1&mark =4&item=1971%2E115%2E2 Hope I'm not being redundant, as I've not read every response -- most of those I have read seem to relate to fictional accounts, this may give a different perspective (but maybe Devon has already given out this information!). Anyway, I love these paintings!! Best Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA : > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tamara P. Duvall > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 7:21 PM > To: lace Arachne > Subject: [lace] Re: Depiction of Lace-makers in 17th century Holland > > > On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote: > > > Since the person asked for a "depiction" does she mean a book or a > > picture? > > I have wondered about that myself... I think "sightings" of > lacemaking > in literature (mostly fiction, and mostly along the same lines of > misunderstanding that the worst of your press-persons showed at the > Hasbrouck Heights convention ) are somewhere on > Lori-the-Lacefairy' > webpage. As are many visual "sightings" which had been reported here > over the years. > > > At the Met last summer they had an engraving of a 17 > century lacemaker > > by an artist whose name I always get wrong. It is something like > > Golthius, or Goltzius. Tamara wrote it down! > > The engraving was on loan from the Rijksmuseum. > > The *exhibition* was of (Hendrik?) Goltzius (now you have me > wondering > about the spelling of the name ) and most of the work was his, but > the engraving in question was by a student of his, Jan Saenredam, one > of the series called "4 seasons"; there was nothing on the caption to > say which of the seasons was depicted, but I'm guessing "summer". > > I'm not sure how accurate it is for the 17th century, either. > The dates > given for Saenredam were: "ca 1565-1607", and I don't > remember any date > given for the picture itself; it could have been done before > 1600 (and, > in any case, he didn't "see" *much* of the 17th c -- less than a > decade...) > > - > Tamara P Duvall > Lexington, Virginia, USA > Formerly of Warsaw, Poland > http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books
I would like to amply two points that Robin made. Generally the quality of
paper being produced has degraded through history significantly every fifty
years or so, due to "technological improvements" of the time. So, paper
that is three hundred years old is likely to be in much better shape now
than that 200 years old, which in turn will be incredibly better than that
100 years old. The worst period seems to have run approximately 1850-1950.
Whole sections of libraries are crumbling due to the acidity of paper
produced in this period, and it presents an enormous challenge to preserving
those books.
As strange as it may seem, there probably isn't much paper produced in the
last twenty years or so, at least hard-cover "quality" books, that will be
nearly as acidic as the older books. So probably the newer books are in
more danger from the Victorian ones, than the reverse.
Second, I learned at a workshop presented by Archival Products that there
are a number of the plastic pockets on the market that are marked "archival"
that aren't, at all. As far as I could tell, about the only way to
distinguish was to purchase materials from a very reputable supplier, as
noted by Robin. It was very enticing to think that these expensive
materials had reached the mass market, with accompanying lower prices, but
apparently, t'ain't so. Not worth saving a few dollars, if the articles are
in no better shape, or worse, than doing nothing.
Regards,
Carolyn Hastings
Stow, MA USA
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Panza, Robin
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:45 AM
> To: Arachne (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books
>
>
> I started to send this directly to Linda, but decided to send
> to the list. While this is not lace, conserving old patterns
> and books is pretty darn close and I've included the
> addresses of archival suppliers that can be useful for
> supplies to preserve old lace, too.
>
> I am *NOT* a paper conservator. However, working in a
> natural history museum, I've had to deal some with paper
> storage. Here is my understanding. If you get a paper
> conservator responding to your request who disagrees with
> what I say, go ahead and throw out my advice.
>
> >>>Especially - I've a dim memory of being told that older books
> >>>shouldn't
> be kept near younger books, as the younger books gave off
> something that would attack the paper of the older books. <<<
>
> Anything new tends to off-gas for awhile. Plastics in new
> cars off-gas formaldehyde (believe it or not, that's the
> much-beloved "new car smell"!!). Wood products do off-gas
> acidic fumes from the lignin in the wood. Virtually all
> modern book pages are made from wood pulp and therefore have
> lignin. Old books were made from cotton rag and didn't have
> lignin. That's why a 5-year-old book may be more
> age-yellowed than a 100-year-old book. We have worried about
> possible damage to our specimens from off-gassing from wood drawers.
>
> I don't know this, but it makes sense that storing old and
> new books together, especially in a closed place ("lawyer"
> style bookcase, cabinet, etc.), might expose the old,
> acid-free books to acidic fumes from the modern, wood-base
> books. I would not think that this is significant if there
> is air circulation, such as most open bookcases, but I may be
> wrong about that.
>
> >>>Since I wrote that, I've seen an advertisement for
> acid-free plastic
> pockets for storing documents. While these sound a little
> unlikely to me - both the acid-free part and that storing
> paper in plastic might be a good thing to do - I'm open to
> being educated on the subject.<<<
>
> While most plastics are acid-free, not all are archival. And
> here my memory gets a bit fuzzy. I believe polyvinyl and
> polystyrene are not archival, but mylar (polyester) and
> ethafoam (polyethylene, I believe, but my memory may be off).
> Cheap plastic page protectors and cheap slide storage pages
> are not archival. However, you can get mylar or other
> archival-plastic page protectors from conservation suppliers.
>
> If a page is acidic, I was taught by our conservator that
> it's still good to encase it in mylar, as long as you didn't
> *seal* it in. We were dealing with old maps, so we took a
> sheet of mylar, creased it, and ran double-sided tape up two
> sides. Leaving the end opposite the crease open was enough
> to allow the paper to 'breathe' while protecting it
> physically during use. That much I give yo
RE: [lace] Bowes Museum
Hi, We visited Bowes Museum last March, and I went to the web site because I must say the lace, as a collection, certainly didn't jump out at us. Obviously would have helped to know what is available before the visit! Anyway, on the web site is the description of (among hundred of items with lace) a handkerchief bordered in lace. This is how the description reads: "Linen handkerchief with Meander lace border like Honiton but home made." What is Meander lace?? The web site doesn't give a number, so I can't direct you to this particular item. I searched by selecting catagories from their drop down menus, and happened upon a selection with quite a few handkerchiefs. I suspect whoever cataloged these didn't know a whole lot about lace. Regards, Carolyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Passell > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [lace] Bowes Museum > > > Bowes Museum has a web site. WWW.bowesmuseum.org.uk > you can also email them at this address > [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is > many years since I visited this remarkable museum. There are > many interesting things to see. If you type in Bowes museum > Co Durham you will also find some other interesting sites of > interest in the area. Hope this helps and I do hope you visit > the museum. Best wishes Josie Chesterfield U.K. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Sally Barry's UK vendor
Hi Everyone, A question appeared a little while ago on Arachne, asking if there is a UK vendor for Sally Barry's new Bucks book. She has asked me let Arachne members know that she has sent a supply to Pat Hallam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so they should soon be available though her. Hope this helps. Regards, Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Pillows for large patterns
Hi, I did a huge fan last year and share Tamara's adversion for bobbins falling off the pillow. So I covered a large rectangle of building foam insulation with a bit of knit fabric, and stuck it next to the edge of the pillow. Actually I used two of these: one was the rectangle, but I also asked a local pillow maker to cut an arc shaped piece that fit around the outer edge of the circular part of my "pillow", which was fan shaped. Would work equally well with any round pillow. It really saved the day for me. Regards, Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tamara P. Duvall > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:26 PM > To: lace Arachne > Subject: [lace] Pillows for large patterns > > > On Thursday, Dec 4, 2003, at 22:49 US/Eastern, Alice Howell wrote: > > > I haven't made a large pattern, but I tried to imagine making one. > > What > > pillow would I use. Has anyone tried doing one on a large > > bolster pillow? > > It seems like that would be a practical method of working > with a very > > large > > pattern. > > A large bolster would probably work quite well. I don't have > a bolster > pillow but I have seen a large pattern (Russian Tape) made on one and > although to me it looked awkward, the lady seemed to be having no > problems. > > I've only ever made two largish projects in my entire lacemaking life. > > The first one was a a really big collar (4" wide, and made for a > deeply scooped-necked dress), and I made it on an ordinary 21" cookie > (long since passed on to another lacemaker; I only kept the 24"). But > it was Russian Tape (more or less; my own design, and an early one; I > was still stumbling in the dark ), made with just 6 or 7 > pairs, so > it was easy to unpin and re-pin in a more comfortable > position for work. > > The second piece was this summer, during Ulrike Loehr's > Snowflake Quilt > class (Binche snowflakes and variations; essentially, Viele > Gute Grunde > part II). She recommended we bring a block pillow, so I hauled out my > 24" square, all-blocks pillow from Kloeppelkiste. I love this pillow > for its feel but don't use it all that often; it's superb for things > with corners, but I don't make many things with corners. > Meanwhile, the > *pillow's* corners dig into my middle, if it's not positioned "just > so"; I was even contemplating cutting it down, to make an octagon... > > The piece I decided to make in class was just a plain hexagon (all > pieces were arrangements of equilateral triangles but, > depending on the > arrangement, you got different final results -- both as to size and > shape). One made a little one (6 triangles) first, then spiraled out > for the next "round" (18) of them. And the next, if one so wished, > though I didn't. > > I pinned my pattern centrally, as I always do on a cookie, and cursed > my way through the little hexagon, every time I had to work on a > triangle which placed the pillow's corner poking through to my > backbone. As it turned out, that was the easy part :) > > I almost finished the original 6 during the workshop but wasn't ready > to quit; my bobbins were overwound (I wound as much as I was told to, > then added a bit for breakage and, naturally, didn't break > any threads > -- the story of my life ), there were still 94 tempting > variations... I was having fun figuring out the flakes, had > no pressing > ideas for anything else... I decided to go ahead and do the second > round. > > And discovered -- fery fast -- that, while some of the triangles were > fairly comfortable to make, some were FMK9 (a bitch), depending on > whether I was working in or out. None poked me in the stomach > any more, > but, in some, the bobbins (36prs "basic" and 2 prs gimp) were falling > off the pillow. Grumble. But I wasn't in the mood to cut the project > off; I had too much effort "invested" in it, and I hadn't > "milked" all > the fun from those variations, either. Not to mention that a hexagon > with just 3 triangles in the outer round looks like h... and has no > place to finish unobtrusively... I was committed to finishing > all 18 if > it killed me... > > And then it "clicked"; the classic "oh, DUH" moment... :) > > I started moving the blocks around. Not in the way I've always done > (for hankies and such), but so as to always have room, *on > the pillow*, > for the bobbins I needed. If it meant that a pa
