[lace] Re: IOLI Convention
That is a great idea to provide cheep pillows for members who fly. The one time I had to fly to IOLI Convention, I was taking 2 classes and needed 20 inch pillows for both. So I got creative and made a 20 inch foam block pillow, but instead of backing it with plyboard, I used artist's foam board which made it much lighter. But my luggage was only 18 inches wide! My solution was to make a cut about 8 inches from one edge of the pillow and then make a hinge with Duck Tape so I could fold the edge back and fit it into my luggage. To lock it into place when in use, I used a flat strip of wood (ie tongue depresser) between foam and board. With an extra block and extra cover cloth for 2nd class I was all set. Being creative and thinking outside the box is character of most lacemakers! Louise in Central Virginia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Elizabeth Correa -- I look forward to meeting you at the IOLI convention. We will be there a couple of days beforehand. What class will you be in? I am in the morning Tatting class - making the necklace shown on the IOLI convention list of classes. ( class 514 I think). It is always fun to meet up with others on this list, and I have made many friends though the list, and meeting them at Convention. I will have a husband tacking on!! I hope there will be some other husbands there, so he can find someone to talk to while I am busy learning tatting!! The Husband he has made friens with for the last 2 conventions we have been to, is unable to come this time, - so I hope he finds someone else to befriend! Saves me worrying about him getting bored. :) Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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On Mar 13, 2005, at 19:11, Alice Howell wrote (in response to Weronika):
I'm going, along with 8 others from my immediate area.
Me too, I hope :)
Almost every major type of lace has a class, though the most popular
fill up very fast. That's why you have to choose several options.
This year, I gambled... On the one hand, I wanted to go - my step
daughter lives nearby (Boulder) and I could stop with her for a few
days afterwards; my very first American friend (and still beloved, even
though I've not seen her for years) will be there... On the other hand,
there weren't all that many classes I really wanted to take, and I
can't excuse spending a lot of cash for a social occasion and a
frustrating lace experience (been there, done that). So, I put down for
only one class in the morning (Lenka's advanced wire) and one in the
afternoon (Louise Colgan's advanced Milanese)... I get them, I go; I
don't get them, I save the money for something else (maybe Ithaca in
October again). But that's why I refuse to even think about booking the
plane ticket until I know; the hotel room you can cancel without
penalty, but not the ticket.
In that week you will have at least 50 hours of intense lace
experiences -- and that comes to only $20 an hour for your $1000
investment.Try getting your car fixed for that rate. Or hiring a
lawyer. Or any other skilled work.
:) When I first started to learn needlepoint ('81? '82?), I was
appalled at the initial costs; the book was a Christmas gift, but
everything else (supplies) had to be bought... The owner of the
needlework shop (we still had one, then) simply said: "hour for hour,
it's about a tenth of what the psychiatrist would charge". Which
applies, in spades, to a *well chosen* workshop in congenial
surroundings :) Like Alice said, being around other lacemakers for
several days is a tonic, even without a teacher. But here, you also get
a teacher who's likely to be the very best in her (and sometimes his)
area... Worldwide, since IOLI always invites the teachers from
all-over, and that's true this year also (might be the last time,
though, if the dollar keeps plunging ).
Yes, a conference at a large commercial hotel is expensive. It's
difficult to find any other type of place that has enough classrooms,
large meeting halls, and sleeping rooms for a lace conference.
I still think we don't explore the possibility of using university
campuses aggressively enough. The lace events I've been to in Europe,
which tend to take place at such, have been perfectly satisfactory vis
food and lodging, and the classrooms *better* than anything a hotel can
offer.
However, sharing a room with one, two or three others will cut down
that housing cost per each. Use some creativity with the meals that
are not part of the conference. There's a Super Walmart "just across
the street" -- so I've been told. And some other eating places. You
don't need to eat every meal in the hotel dining room,
You don't need to sign up for all the "extras", either... I've signed
up for the Arachne lunch, but not for any of the tours or the dinner on
Wednesday. I've seen a lot of Colorado on my previous visits, feel a
bit like a fish out of water at most of the big, hearty gatherings, so
opted to take only the ones which are included in the registration fee
(one breakfast, one lunch and the banquet). I'll spend Wednesday either
catching up on my classroom work, or taking an independent trip and
eating on the cheap.
For a first timer, and especially if you are a new lacemaker, I would
recommend taking only one class. It gives you half a day to work on
your lace and half a day with the teacher.
There, for once, I disagree... One class - yes, maybe, if it's a 24hr
one on a single subject, especially for Weronika (who's 21, and has
been going great guns for over a year). But that's what I meant by
"well chosen class". I've had some *most excellent* experiences in
attending lace events, but I also had some "sour" ones, early on. The
sour ones could - almost always - be traced directly to a wrong choice
of workshop. Workshops is what I go for; the rest is but the icing on
the cake. So you need to know yourself - your stamina, your ability to
concentrate, your tolerance for "being told" (as opposed to figuring
things out for yourself), as well as have some inkling of the teacher's
methods before you commit yourself to a class.
Or, if you choose an all-day class, give yourself a break in the
evenings and do not make lace all night. Six hours a day is enough
for the fingers and the brain.
Depends on the workshop and on personality... When it's something you
have no clue about and you're starting from zero, or if your teacher is
a stickler for doing things "just so" - which many, if not most non-US
teachers are - six hours a day is plenty; there's but so much you can
absorb all at once without undue stress. Took me a while to learn that
lesson.
OTOH, when I took
[lace] RE: IOLI convention
I'm looking forward to my very first IOLI convention this year!!! Hopefully it will be the first of many. I am so excited! I'm looking forward to the Arachne lunch too. I guess I better start doing more "talking" on the list so you won't say "Who is she?" LOL! Anita Cedar Rapids, Iowa midwest USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clay) wrote: Actually, I've booked my hotel room at the conference hotel, and the person I spoke with said that I could cancel up until 6:00 pm the first night. However, the "fine print" says that they will charge one night's room rate for cancellations. I wonder if that means "cancellations after 6:00, or all cancellations? Most hotels permit you to cancel - without any penalty - up to 24hrs before you're due to "take possession". I'd assume the charge for the first night would apply only to cancellations done *on the day* -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How do you "Explaining to my husband why I want to spend $1000 on a lace conference... ? Does your husband play golf? What's the difference between spending $1000 for a lace conference and spending $100 a week for at least 10 weeks playing golf? Same goes for any other spouse hobbies. Barb B - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Meant to send this to the group but my computer was not co-operating so I am sending it again: ? I thing what everyone is ignoring here is that for those of us in the US, or others near by, is the distance issue. As travel becomes more expensive it is just not easy for someone to pick up and travel long distances. For me to go to the convention this year would mean traveling almost two thousand miles with all of its expenses before I even figure in the hotel and convention costs. Maybe what we need here is to split the convention into two conventions. With one for the eastern side and one for the western side you could rotate classes and vendors every other year so everyone has a chance to attend more often. They would end up being smaller conventions maybe but that might make it easier also. My other problem with the convention is the timing. For those of us (admittedly not many) with children still in school it does present a problem of timing. As our schools begin earlier and earlier, with the sports teams starting even earlier, it makes it impossible to attend. Younger lacemakers do have to take such things into consideration when planning to attend a lace event. If you want to attact new, younger lacemakers you need to consider this. Any high school/college age lacemaker would most likely not be able to attend if they could afford it due to timing restrains from school. Everyone wants to attract the new lacemakers so they can carry on the art but most of your accomidations are centered on the older lace makers. How about we do both when planning the next convention? Both groups could learn from each other. Amber Forest, VA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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>From a PR/mktg standpoint - a priority for many attending is vendors/shopping, and socializing/camaraderie. Of course people want to learn something, but may not get into a class that they want to. The lull that sustains is the first two mentioned, and one has to consider if you will also lose vendors traveling to two distant places (with increasing travel costs). Some may feel they have to choose, and that cuts into whatever slim profits they already have. We can't lose more lace suppliers who get over-stretched. Then if you have 300 ct. attendees at one national event, there is a likelihood to get less than half per when the venue is split, and it is twice the work. It is more economical to fly one person to teach 20 people, than to have 20 people travel to the instructor, but if the passion is there, they will do it. It seems like it is dividing up the pieces of the pie a bit too scantly. Then again it could create competition so each tries to have better offerings. I think some get bored with attending in their own area over time, and prefer a new place and sites to see. With costs going up for transportation, people likely are more focused on visiting a new place while there as more 'bang for their buck,' as Alice shared. Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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From: Francis Busschaert Subject: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1 I hope you don't think that Los Angeles, is representative of the US! No disrespect to LA, but just like Europe, there are cities and farm fields, friendly and lots of not-so-friendly, I used to travel to NYC all the time for business, and am always stymied at how rude people are. I have been to LA several times and though not as bad, there is a similar big city feeling and all that that brings (though I live in a city elsewhere). The same when I have been to Europe. How I am treated in a large city is completely different than a smaller town. People vary from not even answering you when you speak their language, to asking you home for dinner in Nice or Monaco, for instance. The only non-sugar that I can think of is stevia, (sorgum, and one other which escapes my mind). All supermarkets have stevia, but you have to know to look or just ask. Now Cargill and Coca Cola have come out with their own brand name version, but again, stevia is available most anywhere except the most rural situations, and they probably have the branded version. Did you go to Rodeo Drive? LOL I hope you found a plethora of wonderful people at the convention, at least all pre-bonded by their passion for creating beautiful things, and the beautiful people who do it. Best,Susan Reishus hallo to all So we went to the USA I finaly did not take knitting needles on the plane because i all to well remember that custums and airportsecurity peolpe lac any kind of "polite" and "frindly comprehensive" caracter i beleve they are specialy trained in beeing a in the . it is at your own imagination to fill in the . when i finaly was on that plane, I a was happy not to have my knittigneedles there is no place to move around my arms and elbows to knit.. not whitout hurting the co-passengers anyway so no knitting i fly a lot evry year in europe short cityhoppers so in and out the plane and it is always out of holliday periods so i forgot how it is when you do travel in holidayperiods what it is like to have very small, small and even bigger children on the plane or the nonstop blond narative waterfall or big dinosoruslike persons next to you or behind you whom just fit in the chair and even beyond that chair and were you have to dwell and survive for 8 painfully long hours evry airbreeding movement and other fysical movements were you feel the knees of that person al to we in your back where you see and mostly hear the children of parents whom lost the parental battle against there own monsters a veryyy long time ago boy o boy i still want children but that are the moments were you realy think twice somehow you seem to not feel the dinosaur anymore somehow you seem to not notice the little gremlins anymore somehow you seem to be able to dwell in a state of sleeping and "not noticing" all the rest we survived the trip and suddenly you are in Los Angeles it was the first time we were in the USA it realy is DIFFEREND not in big ways but in small remarcable thinghs the first thing we noticed was the imens amounts of traffic and all those small busses for the hotels, and carparks etcetc sooo many traffic and soo big cars, driving monsters on 4 or more wheels big bigger bigest shining metal monsters we did not see any old cars it was like a new presenting carshow we took the ride to the hotel settled down and asked at the concierge were we could find a supermarket BIG MISTAKE.. he said only 10 minutes around the corner a bit further welll those 10 minutes became 45 minutes of walking real walking in skin burning SUN and hot air i felt like a vampire in the sun and i was smimming in my own underware... that was the first time we noticed the "small distinct " other way of seeing distances at that point were were awake for 28 hours, to give you a bit the feelling we had in our remainders of brain we espacily go first to see supermarkets when we arrive in other countrys for us it is like a "contempary museum of the living culture" or like "the ambasy of lifestyl" what you see there is what you will get for the rest of the time beeing so my remarks are were do you find non sugar containing yogurt and when i say non sugar i do not want some kind of fake/synthetic sugar in it like aspartaan or what ever we could not find any natural non sugartasty yogurt IMPOSSIBLE and the more you see other products the more you notice that vertualy all is sugary, sweetend, honny. where are those lovly hard baked cookies biscuits and other delights? it seems to be mostly half baked whatevers i like them crunchy what the HELL happend whit chocolate in the USA why does all chocolate products taste like ... well i can not decribe it must be some recycled wasteproduct of the pertochem industry my god that is in the eys of us belgiums (and swiss) like blasfamy ""you shall not rape or violate the taste of chocola
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Oh, I slammed it? Not my intention, just comparisons. I just think New Yorkers can be very cool and rude, but I still like the city. My ex was born and raised in Manhattan, one of those prep school boys so biases me toward even more endearment, but I have never been treated so badly (other than one European city), and I went regularly Perhaps some things have changed since 9/11. LA people aren't the same at all, compared to the former. Of course if you are near an airport or convention center that will attract a whole 'nother attitude altogether, often non-reflective of a cities inhabitants. I didn't define some European cities, which can be extremely rude, even with local friends hosting me and as a buffer. Oh well. Odd how people read words differently than intended, but I was frank, but not nearly as much so as Francis was. Oddly, I don't find it funny as per other comments, as it is sad that Francis had such a bad time and was so disappointed. There can be rotten apples in any bunch, but there are patterns or tones that areas have. Plain yogurt can be found in any supermarket I have been in, but is not obvious as there are perhaps one or two brands, compared to dozens of sugared or fake-sugared ones. Best,Susan Reishus --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Clay Blackwell wrote: From: Clay Blackwell Subject: Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention To: "Susan Reishus" Cc: "post to Arachne" Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 2:07 PM Wow, Susan - in defending LA, you surely slammed NYC! I've been to the city many times, and I don't share your view of New Yorkers. Clay Susan Reishus wrote: > From: Francis Busschaert > Subject: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1 > I hope you don't think that Los Angeles, is representative of the US! No > disrespect to LA, but just like Europe, there are cities and farm fields, > friendly and lots of not-so-friendly, I used to travel to NYC all the time > for business, and am always stymied at how rude people are. I have been to LA > several times and though not as bad, there is a similar big city feeling and > all that that brings (though I live in a city elsewhere). The same when I have been to Europe. How I am treated in a large city is > completely different than a smaller town. People vary from not even answering > you when you speak their language, to asking you home for dinner in Nice or > Monaco, for instance. > The only non-sugar that I can think of is stevia, (sorgum, and one other which > escapes my mind). All supermarkets have stevia, but you have to know to look > or just ask. Now Cargill and Coca Cola have come out with their own brand > name version, but again, stevia is available most anywhere except the most > rural situations, and they probably have the branded version. > Did you go to Rodeo Drive? LOL > I hope you found a plethora of wonderful people at the convention, at least > all pre-bonded by their passion for creating beautiful things, and the > beautiful people who do it. > Best,Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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On Monday, Aug 11, 2003, at 00:28 US/Eastern, Patty Dowden wrote: It was wonderful. It was marvelous. It was exhausting and every bone in my body aches, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat. It was at least a day too short (just as my first one was at least a day too long ) -- time flies when you're having fun. Sunday: Ever seen a feeding frenzy? I had a carefully prepared list of things I *needed*, to stop myself from overspending and the pocket snake from hyperventilating. None of them were urgent, so I planned to let the first wave pass before I ventured into the sales room. Man proposes... :) I was peacefully puttering in our room, when my blind-date roomie (Barbara Morrow; we'd corresponded, but never met face-to-face before the Convention) walked in with a large box and a feverish look in her eyes. In the box was a Simon Toustou roller pillow, and it was a thing of beauty... *Naturally*, I was down in the sales room in a flash coming back with one of my own; the pocket snake had a hissy fit, and went into a coma On the way back to the room, I came accross Ms Loehr and discovered that I needed to add pricking board and plastic blue film to my shopping list, and those couldn't be put off till later, so it was back to the sales room. Stopped at the IOLI stand to order my commemorative bobbin, and saw that they had some in stock. One in particular was appealing, since it had not been pictured in the Bulletin as being available, and they only had a single one in that style (Bayeux). Mine, mine. At Susan Wenzel's stalll, while queuing for the pricking board and blue film, I espied the perfect match to that bobbin -- same style, same artist, different design (though also commemorating the 50th anniversary of IOLI). Mine. And so it went, all week long, even though I tried to stay away from the sales room... I am now "all rinsed out" as they say in Poland (meaning no money left) Monday: Class starts. Snowflake Quilt, with Ulrike Loehr. Fabulous! Deserves a separate posting, and will get it (probably ) Tuesday: Breakfast (VERY early, I agree, Tamara) The official breakfast (even earlier) was on *Monday* :) And you forgot the Anniversary Cake cutting ceremony/desert in the evening, after the Tat-Off (I know you stayed awake long enough to attend it; I saw you there, and got a photo to prove it, even though the camera was acting up ). The table I sat at (Jeri kindly reserved a seat for me) was all-Arachnean, so that's where I planted the Arachne Spider. By that time, the critter had been christened (by Adrienne Kattke and Pene Piip): Lu (for the miniature boater hat from the Luton Museum) Heshe. Heshe (not to be mistaken for sushi) because it looked like a "he" from the front (Lenka Suchanek's @, with a spider within the a, made in Milanese lace on its chest, and a straw hat tilted to show the face), but like a "she" from the back -- hearts mat (from Burkhard's "50 New Patterns in BL"), and lacy band to the hat, "dripping" down... It served as a gathering sign for other Arachneans who joined us after the desert. Debra (the IOLI Bulletin editor) took a photo of us all, so, perhaps, we'll see it there in the near future. Unfortunately, not all the Arachneans who were at the convention joined us at the table and for the photo-op. Crossed wires in communication, perhaps, though Janice (Blair) and I *did* try to notify as many people as we could find. The most-missed was Lenka -- the inspiration for Lu's "breast plate"... Wednesday: Not one, not two, but three different tours at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and speed shopping before the bus arrived to take us back to the hotel. Your priorities and mine weren't the same :) We arrived at the Met at 9AM... My Costume Institute tour wasn't till 11 (I decided to pass the "Museum Highlights" tour; figured I could do better with Devon Thein's "lacy walk" in my hand), so I dragged Tina (Allen-Wright) straight to the biggest gift shop . *She* managed to come out of it unscathed, but I took advantage of the snake's poor health, and dragged my big bag of goodies with me for the rest of the day. At that, I missed a book I "must have" (mine, all mine ) -- only discovered its existence on the bus back (Robin Panza bought it -- Art Nouveau tiles; a spectacular source of lacy inspiration, since it's my favourite period in art). The Costume Institute was interesting particularly because of a suitcase (one of 3, speciallly made for the purpose) full of shoes. All made to the same pattern, all decorated with scraps of antique laces and fabric (shudder at the sacriledge)... A quick lunch, then Tina and I tried to find as many of the "lacy" paintings and sculptures from Devon's list as we could. Got momentarily distracted by a sudden discovery of one which hadn't been on the list. There's a (temporary) exhibit of engravings by Hendrick Goltzius (1558-1617) and, since we were passing right by it, I stuck my
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Dear Spiders, Just my 2 cents worth about the Convention. One week before the Convention I tripped off my last porch step and broke my left side of my foot. My only question to the Orthopedic was "Can I go to my convention next week? Yes, in a wheel chair." This was my DH vacation time! I do not know what I would have done without him. Thank goodness we live 20 minutes away form the convention site. He drove me every day. I was spared the mad rush to the sales room on Sunday by going in on Monday. Lots of goodies to see. I saw Lenka and introduced myself. I had signed up for the Wire Lace Sculpture class. Everyone in the class was so nice. I only knew 1 other lacer, Pat Morris, from the Lost Art Lacers. We got right to work and with Lenka's wonderful instructions we were off. I was so inspired that when I got home I finished the top portion of the figure. It was interesting learning how to add beads in different ways. I felt real bad about not being able to get to the Arcane Gatherings but the bad weather, driving home out of it, seemed more important. On Wednesday, since I had to cancel my trip to the Cooper Hewitt, I made lace all day. On Thursday we learned how to add heavier wire to shape the wings and head and of course add more beads, my favorite item. Friday we oggled Lenka's photo album. What glorious work! She even KNITS lace to make areas of fabric fold. It is truly amazing. The Banquet was very nice, even if I did not win anything. It was so nice to see people wearing their lace finery. It was so nice to talk to Tamara, Pat, Jeri, Lee, Kenn and all my classmates at the convention. They are a wonderful group of people involved in lace and I am very proud to be part of it. I was so grateful I could attend, even at a limited basis. It certainly did not reflect in my wallet. Lenka has so many goodies I could not resist. As you can see I really had a good time. Yours in mending, Laura in NJ, we were not in the dark at all. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Jan 26, 2004, at 13:48, Angela Thompson wrote: for I am coming to teach Romanian Point Lace, beginners and Intermediate, and also Casalguidi Embroidery. My daughter Jane is coming to help in the teaching, yes the hours may seem long when you read about them, but when the time comes, become all too short. Not only that, but I've found that, after a good, *intensive* workshop, I remain "energised" for weeks afterwards. Even though -- ordinarily -- I'm a late riser and generally lazy, after a workshop, I continue to get up at an hour that has my DH's jaw hanging open, gobble my breakfast fast, and settle to a pillow for an 8-10 hour stretch (with short breaks for a smoke, of course, but I do that in class also). He usually likes it better when I get off the "workshop high" and fall back to my "normal" routine; being on a workshop schedule also means I don't cook... :) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tamara wrote: > But that's why I refuse to even think about booking the plane ticket until I know; the hotel room you can cancel without penalty, but not the ticket. < Actually, I've booked my hotel room at the conference hotel, and the person I spoke with said that I could cancel up until 6:00 pm the first night. However, the "fine print" says that they will charge one night's room rate for cancellations. I wonder if that means "cancellations after 6:00, or all cancellations? Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wernika, Please try to convince your husband to go to the convention. The convention in 1989 was the first one that my DH went to. We spent the weekend in the Rockies then proceeded to Denver. All the female chit-chat at registration sent him out of the room, but there were so many things he found to do during the day that he said he would be willing to go back another time because he had not done all the things he had wanted! Lee Daly in New Jersey USA where it is too cold to melt the snow but sunny at least - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 14, 2005, at 13:47, Jeff and Lee Daly wrote: Weronika, Please try to convince your husband to go to the convention. No, no, no; bite your tongue! :) I want to room with her, so we can practice our Polish (though neither of us knows much Polish for lacemaking, and we'd love to have a third - non-Polish roomie - to keep us on the straight and narrow). A tagging DH would throw a monkey wrench into those plans... :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How do you "Explaining to my husband why I want to spend $1000 on a lace conference... ? Does your husband play golf? What's the difference between spending $1000 for a lace conference and spending $100 a week for at least 10 weeks playing golf? Same goes for any other spouse hobbies. In this case they are both still students (I think) and only married last summer, so I expect $1000 will be a big issue for them both. We certainly couldn't have afforded that amount of money for a vacation for us both, let alone for one of us when we were just married (just after college) Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks to everyone for the encouragement! Looks like I'm going!! At least if I get the classes I wanted. As for the husband issue, yep, we're students, but the money problem isn't that bad - it's just that I am actually spending more on my hobbies than he is on his, so I sort of feel bad about it. But, he says it's OK. Weronika On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:41:11AM -0600, Sue Babbs wrote: > >How do you "Explaining to my husband why I want to spend $1000 on a lace > >conference... ? > >Does your husband play golf? What's the difference between spending $1000 > >for a lace conference and spending $100 a week for at least 10 weeks > >playing golf? > >Same goes for any other spouse hobbies. > > In this case they are both still students (I think) and only married last > summer, so I expect $1000 will be a big issue for them both. We certainly > couldn't have afforded that amount of money for a vacation for us both, let > alone for one of us when we were just married (just after college) > Sue > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention
Hi everyone, and IOLI convention-goers As a matter of interest - and I could answer it myself if I was able to go to a convention year after year (I'd be like you, Lee-Ann, family in tent back home...) - on average, who attends the IOLI convention? All ages (if so, many from any age group)? Mostly 'older' - 40 +, 50 + or 60 + ? Anybody's guess? -- bye for now Bev, deep in daffodils, in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention
At 11:25 AM 3/15/2005, you wrote: on average, who attends the IOLI convention? All ages (if so, many from any age group)? Mostly 'older' - 40 +, 50 + or 60 + ? Anybody's guess? I can't speak for the whole attendance, but our group will include a 14 year old, though I must admit that most of our group are retired. Of the nine from my area, there's one under 30, 3 between 30 and 60, and 5 over 60 (at my best guess because I didn't ask them). I, myself, could not attend until I retired. IOLI was always the same week my supervisor took his vacation, and no one else could have that week off. I would have given my eyeteeth to go some years. I'm sure there are others with work restraints that would not permit attendance while working. Because of this, probably the largest age group is the over 60's. However, there is no age division in lacemaking. The 14 year old and the 80 year old can work side by side very contentedly. We are all exploring a delightful art, and age becomes immaterial. Looking forward, Alice In Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention
Added to which, there are some husbands who don't play golf, and wouldn't dream of spending that amount of money just on themselves, over however long a period. I know - I have one!But he has never begrudged me my hobbies, and was always very supportive of me taking off for a weekend or two every year, at a residential college, to indulge my hobbies! Carol - in Suffolk UK. > > Does your husband play golf? What's the difference between spending $1000 > > for a lace conference and spending $100 a week for at least 10 weeks > > playing golf? > > Same goes for any other spouse hobbies. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location,
I was at the Pacific Northwest conference at Pacific Lutheran College in Tacoma a few years ago. The campus was beautiful, I loved having real classrooms to work in, but the dorms were, well, spartan. There were no elevators and many lacemakers were very unhappy with the stairs to their upper floor rooms. If I remember correctly, there were no phones in the rooms, and there was no store within short walking distance. But I really enjoyed being able to walk safely around the pretty neighborhood every morning before class. Last summer I went to the Tonder Lace Festival in Denmark. The tourist information center booked my accommodations. I had picked college housing from a list that included B&Bs and hotels, and they put me in the Ecco conference center. Yes, Ecco, the shoe company. There was a monstrous bronze foot out front that took me a day or so to recognize. I guess I just wasn't expecting a sculpture of a foot. Anyway, it was a good 40 minute walk to where all the lace events took place and there was no restaurant closer than that same 40 minute walk. Fortunately I found a bicycle shop that rented me an elderly bicycle for my stay for $20, and I had a delightful time pedaling all over town and out to the nearby villages. But, without the bicycle, it wouldn't have been fun. I learned my lesson on that trip. My vote is for hotels. Sally Schoenberg Anchorage Alaska - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: IOLI convention observations
The mid-week free day is also the best day to shop. The sales room is closed during classes and all official convention events, so it's pretty hard to seriously look at threads or books in the brief bits before class, during lunch, etc. Wednesday is the day to leisurely browse. It's also a day to catch up with the classwork, for those of us who are slow making lace, and to socialize. Some conventions (and Denver's supposed to have this) have nice, well-lit lobbies where you can bring your pillow and work on your lace, or visit others who are working on theirs. And as Deborah said, it's a chance to get a little sleep and get re-charged for the next couple of intense class days. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Veronica, your comment about the day off in the middle. I used to > agree with you on that. I wanted as much lace time as I could > get!! You will find that you are so immersed in lace for that > whole time that you need that time to regroup. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI Convention/Denver
On Mar 23, 2005, at 11:47, Vasna Zago wrote: That's a new - and very welcome - "wrinkle"; I can't remember receiving one of those before (not that I've been to all that many Conventions ), but I appreciate it. Brilliant idea, Vasna, thanks! And thank the rest of the group; am looking forward to be welcomed to Colorado in August :) Actually, we stole the idea from the Keystone Lacers in Harrisburg from last year. Just want to give credit where credit is due. :-> OK, I did not go there last year, so wouldn't have got the card. It was a hard choice... An IOLI Convention "on the doorstep" (or almost) was extremely tempting but, OIDFA in Prague (next door to Poland, allowing me to kill two birds with one transatlantic ticket ) was even more tempting. I've been to a couple of IOLI Conventions before and had hopes for attending more, but Prague was likely to be my one shot at attending an OIDFA Congress. And, needess to say, my purse wouldn't stretch far enough to cover both events... And, we have about 65 registrations so far for the Arachne lunch, so all y'all (western term meaning more than one you all) "y'all" means "more than one you" "Down South heah" also. I think only the North never got the idea, being so happy ridiculing/misusing it. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI convention update
On Aug 7, 2005, at 12:59, Alice Howell wrote: Cathy had some of Tamara's variations to show us, and a picture of the techniques incorporated into a larger motif from South Africa. The fish with the "rose" eye and "roll" scales was from Jeanette Fischer (also an Arachnean) and the most inventive way to use the Rosalibre technique I've seen so far. But, naturally, I'm more interested in my own stuff... :) Did y'all come up with a *name* for the 7? 'cause I'm almost ready to redo it as a 6-petalled one, which may not be as pretty (I agree with the Japanese that odd numbers are more pleasing visually), but is more likely to be "biologically correct", as well as allowing for more colour play... The Arachne luncheon drew many of us together. I didn't count, but would guess we had 50-80 Arachnians present. Since I didn't get that dizzy feeling while it was happening, I have to assume that not all of you lifted a glass for the absent friends, as requested :) I too have used my convention time profitably (if unexpensively ) and the lace for the next IOLI Bulletin - earrings and pendant in wire, with earrings also made in metallic thread for comparison - is all done. Now to finish scribbling... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: IOLI convention registration
I was speaking to a fellow lacemaker a few days ago and she said she and her sister already know what classes they are taking. I sent in my registration before Feb 1 and my check was cashed in February, but I have yet to hear about the classes I will be taking. When can I expect to find out? Rebecca in Utah > I also want to take this opportunity to mention the upcoming IOLI convention, > and I hope I don't offend anyone by this. Some classes are already filled to > capacity, such as those taught by Louise Colgan, Ulrike Voelker, and Allie > Marguccio but we still have some spaces with Anny Noben Slegers, Jean Leader, > Holly van Sciver and many other teachers. Don't think you are too late in > registering as I am sure Brenda Glenn, Registrar, will be able to place you in a > class, and maybe one that you might have thought was already filled. > > For those of you who are waiting anxiously to know what your classes are, we are > still working hard on placements. If your check has been cashed, you know that > it was received by Brenda. > > Janice Blair > IOLI Teacher Coordinator - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] RE: IOLI convention registration
Hi Rebecca, No-one has been informed that they have the class of their choice yet. If someone has been contacted by the Registrar, it is usually to ask what their second choice may be because their first choice class is full. If they then assume they will get their second choice, they are probably correct. Some members in the host group of Beehive Lacers may have been told by their committee that their registration is okay, but that is not official yet. No decisions will be made about final placements until the end of May. Registrations are still coming in, although slower than in the initial period and we are hoping to be able to provide as many classes as we offered in the Bulletin. Please do not assume that classes are full or cancelled, take a chance and send in your registration and come and join us in Salt Lake City where we hope to provide everyone with great classes and another wonderful convention experience, plus the chance to see and hear the Tabernacle Choir rehearsal in the Tabernacle. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] RE: IOLI Convention
Amber wrote: >I thing what everyone is ignoring here is that for those of us in the US, or >others near by, is the distance issue. ... Maybe what we need here is to split >the convention into two >conventions. . > >My other problem with the convention is the timing. For those of us >(admittedly not many) with children still in school it does present a problem >of timing. If you want to attract new, younger lacemakers you need to >consider >this. Any high school/college age lacemaker would most likely not be able to >attend if they could afford it due to timing restrains from school. Everyone >wants to attract the new lacemakers so they can carry on the art but most of >your accommodations are centered on the older lace makers. How about we do both >when planning the next convention? Both groups could learn from each other. Dear Amber, et al, I don't think there are that many people who attend IOLI every year. The convention travels around the country, depending on the lace group presenting it. I suspect, although I have no evidence, that those on either coast have more attendance because they are closer to more people, who would be more likely to come, but wherever it is, it draws the 'local' people. Would late July work better? It may be that moving the date a bit in the summer would entice some who don't come to IOLI. One nice thing is that there is little complaint about the cost of the teachers. They work very hard for not a whole lot of money. Thank you teachers, you are a dedicated bunch, much more interested in passing on your knowledge than making money. At issue is the cost of the other aspects of the IOLI convention. It would be very interesting to see if a change in venue, perhaps to a school, would result in more or different people coming. Expensive conventions have had classes in bedrooms. Even fancy hotel food will not please everyone. Reduce the cost, and people have said they would be more likely to come. What criteria can be dispensed with in order to reduce the price, and will this reduction increase attendance? No one has the answer yet. Let us always remember that nothing that is done will please everyone. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where I want spring to warm up. "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] RE: IOLI Convention
I'm not familiar with how IOLI rotates the annual conference. In the science fiction fan community, Worldcon rotates between East Coast/Midwest/West Coast, with bids from elsewhere in the world acceptable at any time; Canada being considered part and parcel for the standard rotation. Anyway, every three years Worldcon will be at least theoretically close by, for certain values of close by [West Coast tends to be in southern California, or so it seems, definitely not in OR/WA/BC]. Next level down, at least for my part of the country, is Westercon, which perambulates around the West Coast, and has made it to Seattle, Portland, and other parts North, as well as Reno, Las Vegas, and Phoenix. I've been to one worldcon, I was working in Chicago when it was last held there, I've been to several Westercons, because they happened in Portland while I was living there. I guess what I'm wondering is if IOLI has any type of regional rotation on where the convention occurs? I gather it's happened in Portland, OR, so it can be hosted by upper mid-sized cities. Are there areas that just will never have a chance to see IOLI unless they travel mega miles? I'd guess the upper mountain states are on their own, but is Minneapolis possible? Calgary? Of course, this presumes a lace presence in the area, unless a group formed which was willing to organize from afar, which has happened in the science fiction community. How bad is it, in regard to certain areas never being within daytrip range of IOLI? What is the average attendance? I'm hearing the figures of 12 and 24 hours for classes, which I'm presuming are spread out over several days, because I'm not up to 12 hour days any longer, and I'm only 52, so how many hours/day are we looking at? Do people sign up for multiple classes, or just one? And are there smaller, regional conventions? What's the break even point, in regard to attendance staying at the venue? And the accessibility needs? I guess, what are the differences from the SF fan conventions I attended for many years, and also the SCA things I've been involved with, although the latter aren't good comparisons, although more of them are happening in hotels these days as certain events just get so big. Yours, John Mead Tacoma, WA, but formerly Portland, OR, and Chicago, IL - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] RE: IOLI Convention
Alice has done a good job in answering your questions. One aspect of the organization of the Lace conventions is that a local group hosts the convention. This is a very charming thing, as the host group is always very gracious and eager to share the special things about their area with the attendees. One hears about lace history or enterprises that are known only locally, and one has the chance to experience local teachers. There was one case where a group that lived in Texas, but in a small town, hosted a convention in San Antonio on the theory that more people would like to visit there than in their town. You mention that in the Science Fiction community sometimes a group is willing to organize an event in a different city. How does this work? For our purposes, it seems like it would be very hard for a group to organize a convention in a city where they don't live, although actually, it is often the case that a group is so spread out that some of the members who take an active role in the convention are rather far from its location. But presumably, members of the group are visiting the hotel, counting and timing the elevators :-) setting up tours, doing dry runs of tours, auditioning entertainment and porting large quantities of items into the hotel from home, including slide projectors, easels, items for sale, exhibit items that have been sent to them, items for the competitions, etc. How did the Sci Fi group organize something in another location? How far away would the location be? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] RE: IOLI Convention
I somewhat misspoke. I'm not aware of a SF convention where no one was local to the area, but I am aware of major conventions where significant portions of the ConCom (convention committee) were from outside the area; Westercon and Worldcon have this occur at times. I suspect (read: hope) the foreign ConCom had local deputies, who were being trained up to be able to handle it on their own for future conventions. In this manner good venues with inexperienced locals could be utilized. In the case I'm sure about Westercon was in Reno, and significant portions of the ConCom were located in Portland. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention
Dear Francis - were you just looking for "plain" yogurt? It's readily available and I like it too. I do my own baking, but when I have been served commercially baked goods, I have noticed lately that many things are underbaked - I'll bet they have discovered that that's one way of giving the sense of moistness that's cheaper than using more of the good and more expensive ingredients. As for cookies - in my recipe repertoire I have both moist and chewy and also crispy cookies. I live in the suburbs of New York City and seldom travel in, but when I do, I have been pleasantly surprised by how helpful and friendly the people are. Hope you come again! Regina From: Francis Busschaert Subject: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1 so my remarks are were do you find non sugar containing yogurt and when i say non sugar i do not want some kind of fake/synthetic sugar in it like aspartaan or what ever we could not find any natural non sugartasty yogurt IMPOSSIBLE and the more you see other products the more you notice that vertualy all is sugary, sweetend, honny. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention
Wow, Susan - in defending LA, you surely slammed NYC! I've been to the city many times, and I don't share your view of New Yorkers. Clay Susan Reishus wrote: From: Francis Busschaert Subject: [lace] our USA ioli adventure part 1 I hope you don't think that Los Angeles, is representative of the US! No disrespect to LA, but just like Europe, there are cities and farm fields, friendly and lots of not-so-friendly, I used to travel to NYC all the time for business, and am always stymied at how rude people are. I have been to LA several times and though not as bad, there is a similar big city feeling and all that that brings (though I live in a city elsewhere). The same when I have been to Europe. How I am treated in a large city is completely different than a smaller town. People vary from not even answering you when you speak their language, to asking you home for dinner in Nice or Monaco, for instance. The only non-sugar that I can think of is stevia, (sorgum, and one other which escapes my mind). All supermarkets have stevia, but you have to know to look or just ask. Now Cargill and Coca Cola have come out with their own brand name version, but again, stevia is available most anywhere except the most rural situations, and they probably have the branded version. Did you go to Rodeo Drive? LOL I hope you found a plethora of wonderful people at the convention, at least all pre-bonded by their passion for creating beautiful things, and the beautiful people who do it. Best,Susan Reishus hallo to all So we went to the USA I finaly did not take knitting needles on the plane because i all to well remember that custums and airportsecurity peolpe lac any kind of "polite" and "frindly comprehensive" caracter i beleve they are specialy trained in beeing a in the . it is at your own imagination to fill in the . when i finaly was on that plane, I a was happy not to have my knittigneedles there is no place to move around my arms and elbows to knit.. not whitout hurting the co-passengers anyway so no knitting i fly a lot evry year in europe short cityhoppers so in and out the plane and it is always out of holliday periods so i forgot how it is when you do travel in holidayperiods what it is like to have very small, small and even bigger children on the plane or the nonstop blond narative waterfall or big dinosoruslike persons next to you or behind you whom just fit in the chair and even beyond that chair and were you have to dwell and survive for 8 painfully long hours evry airbreeding movement and other fysical movements were you feel the knees of that person al to we in your back where you see and mostly hear the children of parents whom lost the parental battle against there own monsters a veryyy long time ago boy o boy i still want children but that are the moments were you realy think twice somehow you seem to not feel the dinosaur anymore somehow you seem to not notice the little gremlins anymore somehow you seem to be able to dwell in a state of sleeping and "not noticing" all the rest we survived the trip and suddenly you are in Los Angeles it was the first time we were in the USA it realy is DIFFEREND not in big ways but in small remarcable thinghs the first thing we noticed was the imens amounts of traffic and all those small busses for the hotels, and carparks etcetc sooo many traffic and soo big cars, driving monsters on 4 or more wheels big bigger bigest shining metal monsters we did not see any old cars it was like a new presenting carshow we took the ride to the hotel settled down and asked at the concierge were we could find a supermarket BIG MISTAKE.. he said only 10 minutes around the corner a bit further welll those 10 minutes became 45 minutes of walking real walking in skin burning SUN and hot air i felt like a vampire in the sun and i was smimming in my own underware... that was the first time we noticed the "small distinct " other way of seeing distances at that point were were awake for 28 hours, to give you a bit the feelling we had in our remainders of brain we espacily go first to see supermarkets when we arrive in other countrys for us it is like a "contempary museum of the living culture" or like "the ambasy of lifestyl" what you see there is what you will get for the rest of the time beeing so my remarks are were do you find non sugar containing yogurt and when i say non sugar i do not want some kind of fake/synthetic sugar in it like aspartaan or what ever we could not find any natural non sugartasty yogurt IMPOSSIBLE and the more you see other products the more you notice that vertualy all is sugary, sweetend, honny. where are those lovly hard baked cookies biscuits and other delights? it seems to be mostly half baked whatevers i like them crunchy what the HELL happend whit chocolate in the USA why does all chocolate products taste like ... well i can not decribe it must
Re: Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention
As I said. being creative and thinking outside the box is characteristic of most lacemakers ! Louise in Central Virginia On 05/07/16, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hi, Louise! LOL at your travel solution! I never heard that story before! Fast forward (or backward) to 2010 when I went to Belgium. I was working a round mat, and wanted to use my German felt block pillow along with the round block that can be used in place of one 6" block. And of course the back (frame) of the German pillow did not fit in my luggage! So... Terry made me another base for the block pillow, and this had a piano hinge down the middle. It folded so that the base of the pillow was inside the fold, but the hinge allowed the pillow to sag in the middle. So... A few judiciously placed felt feet kept the middle on even keel, and a miniature brass latch on each end of the fold kept the sides even. To make life easier, I made a zip-up case for it. I would put the half and whole pillows on one side, cover with one half of the case, and then turn the whole thing over. Then I would put the remaining blocks (including the round one) on the other side, zip it up, and everything was tight. If security wanted to scan the case separately, no harm done. On the return trip when the round block was filled with pins and attached to 200+ Binche bobbins, I first took a picture of the block with bobbins, and printed it out. Then I carefully bundled the bobbins and used another block of shipping foam with a hole in the middle to surround the pins. This kept them safe, and then the whole bundle was wrapped to keep the bobbins stable. The picture, and an explanation, was attached with pins to the bundle. Not a thread was broken! Not a bobbin disturbed! As a lacemaker, it pays to be OCD, because security knows we are some "special" individuals!!! LOL! I have traveled with this pillow several times now, and it works like a charm! I have flown to several IOLI conventions, and the organizers have always been careful to keep Airport Security aware of the impending influx of crazy ladies with massive supplies of pins and sticks! That is usually the best recourse! Clay Clay Blackwell Lymchburg, VA Sent from my iPad > On May 7, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Louise in Central Virginia > wrote: > Being creative and thinking outside the box is character of most lacemakers - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: IOLI Convention/Carousel vest
On Aug 14, 2004, at 20:25, Jane Viking Swanson wrote: I forgot to grab the woman with the Carrickmacross vest with a Carousel and carousel animals - including giraffes - on it. I really wanted a closer look! I bet that was Diane Zierold - a silent Arachenan. I shared "the facilities" in Prague with her and Linda Sheff (another Arachnean), the second part of my stay there. That piece... I don't even *make* needle lace and I, too, wanted a "closer look" at it. As in: "take it off your back right now, and let me look at it in *my* room; you can make another one for yourself" Spectacular, as well as unusual. I hope Diane doesn't wear it to the *Denver* Convention next year; Penny (Boston) is, I know, planning on attending that one. And she *collects* lace with animals in it... As she's a much stronger personality than I am, Diane's not going to be a match for *Penny's* greed... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet: no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention 2005
Don't worry - I very much doubt he'd be at all interested in that. It would be all different right now, but the conference is in the summer, when we'll actually be living together again, so I don't think he'd want to leave work for a week basically just to get to sleep with me (since we'd be apart all day for classes and stuff anyway). Weronika On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:39:36PM -0500, Tamara P Duvall wrote: > On Mar 14, 2005, at 13:47, Jeff and Lee Daly wrote: > > >Weronika, > > > >Please try to convince your husband to go to the convention. > > No, no, no; bite your tongue! :) I want to room with her, so we can > practice our Polish (though neither of us knows much Polish for > lacemaking, and we'd love to have a third - non-Polish roomie - to keep > us on the straight and narrow). A tagging DH would throw a monkey > wrench into those plans... :) > > -- > Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ > Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Spiders, I meant to send the response below to the list, but only sent it to Bev! Diane > Bev, > > I'll be the first to answer your "survey". I am > attending my 3rd convention. I'm 39, married, one > 7-year son, work full-time and burn one week of > vacation for the convention. Last year we took a > family vacation to Gettysburg (historic battleground > near Harrisburg) prior to the convention, the boys > dropped me off and came home and I followed after > the > convention was over. This year they are planning a > fishing trip to coincide with the time that I am > gone. > Next year I may not go to convention because we are > planning a family vacation to Disneyworld. > > Diane Williams > Galena, Illinois USA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location,
Some colleges do conferences, and some don't. The Pacific Northwest (USA) regional conferences have been held at colleges. My group is hosting the next one.It took us several months of seeking out the various campuses to find one that was available and suitable --- and we should have less than 100 people attending. The campus we scheduled probably could not accomodate an IOLI Conference even if it wanted to. The campus our group used the last time no longer books conferences. The local college to me holds conferences but will book them no earlier than one year ahead. That doesn't work for us because it takes our small group longer than that to do all the preparation. We had to have a date before we could contract any teachers. etc etc etc etc. We booked two years ahead for our small conference. The bigger the conference, the sooner a location needs to be booked. Finding a suitable location can be a major problem in some areas. We are all grateful for the groups who have been able to host the IOLI conferences. And the ones scheduled in the future (Denver, Montreal, Oklahoma, Illinois). In all my conference attending -- professional and hobby -- I have been at only one 5-star hotel. My.It WAS an experience. I can certify that no other hotel ever came close. They replaced towels twice a day, turned down the bed in the evening, had silver ice buckets, and crystal goblets to drink from, orchids in the rest rooms, real cloth hand towels in some rest rooms, and staff members constantly asking if they could do something for me. Now, while I wait to hear which classes I will attend, I'll go back to working on our regional conference next year which we hope will be a fun experience dispite simple dorm accommodations. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon -- where we finally had a day with rain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location,
Some colleges do conferences, and some don't. The Pacific Northwest (USA) regional conferences have been held at colleges. Many mid-western colleges / universities would not hold summer conferences because they are not air-conditioned (and I can tell you that most of us wouldn't enjoy that experience! Round Chicago is it hot and humid in the summer) The semesters are arranged so that the students aren't there in the summer months for a good reason! Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI convention at schools
Hi Arachnes, I agree with Vasna about using schools for classes. Either school is in session (most of the year) or it is not (potentially the summer) but at that time, the staff is gone. They do not have food, or many services. Yes, there would be classroom space, but we would need maintenance staff to move the desks out of the way. There are rarely elevators and there are great distances between buildings so the class schedule would have to be modified to allow for time between classes too. (I HATED walking to class at my New Jersey alma mater!) The school would not do any of the registration, room assignments, individual payments for rooms... my list could go on. Basically, it becomes more of a do-it-yourself project on all counts. A convention committee does a tremendous amount of work as it is - usually with excellent results, I might add. Lee Daly in sunny New Jersey - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI convention (and competitions)
On Aug 7, 2005, at 15:35, Dagmar Machyckova wrote: I couldn't possibly justify going to the entire convention and so I at least persuaded my newly-wed husband, that Colorado is the perfect place for Honeymoon. Indeed! And congratulations on your powers of persuasion - the earlier you start training them, the better :) We really enjoyed all the vendors, but were surprised at how few people there were. It seems that in Europe the lace days are much bigger. Quite likely; there are more vendors in Europe than there are in Northern America (US and Canada). And for European vendors to come here and haul their stock is not especially profitable, especiallly with the dollar in the doldrums. Some of them do it if they can combine teaching and selling, but not many come just to sell. Since this was my first IOLI convention I was wondering if this one was above or below average??. Is 25 pieces in the competition a lot? and how come if there is so many IOLI members there weren't more lacemakers willing to compete?? 25 pieces in the competition is a very respectable number indeed... I remember submitting an entry in '91 and getting first in BL. Only after I stopped jumping up and down in glee (I had been making lace for 18 months when I submitted the piece) I looked at the number of competitors... I think I got first out of 4 or 5 entries, which neatly pricked my self-important balloon :) Though I never told DH that (like Carol and her "won in the raffle" ) - my ribbon was my passport to more time spent at the pillow without having to listen to the catalogue of un-done domestic chores... :) And, speaking of competitions - now that y'all are homing back... I got an invitation to judge lace entries at the Virginia State Fair - again. And have accepted - again. It's a 2.5-3hr trip (one way) for me, $20+ in gas, with a packed lunch gobbled hastily at a rest-stop... So, please, please send some entries? So that I don't have to spend 5-6 hours driving and 15 minutes judging? You don't even have to be a Virginia resident to participate... details are available: http://www.statefair.com/arts_and_crafts.asp and entries are due Sept 2; just enough time to get your ducks in a row and finish that project which had been on your pillow for ages... Hoping to be at the next convention for a whole week Yeah, so was I, but I just heard that the hotel room is 180 Canadian dollars per night. At the current exchange rate it's (almost) 150 US bucks; much too rich for my blood... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention at schools
Some universities have stopped renting to conventions and some never did. However, there are still many that have a reduced enrollment during summer and use conventions to make the summer school more cost-effective. I've been to many scientific meetings at universities, as recently as 2003 (didn't get to go last year). The accomodations were a whole lot less expensive than when the same organization met at a hotel. However, it was a case of getting what you paid for. When the meetings were too big for a university (they may have lecture halls, but not necessarily banquet rooms and rooms for sales), they met in good (but not 5-star) hotels. The convention was contained in one building, so walking to class was easy and cool, the room was cleaned daily, and there was a restaurant on-site. At universities, the dorm rooms were smaller, less comfortable (a student desk, hard chair, and twin bed instead of a table and upholstered chairs), one bathroom shared with the whole wing of rooms, and often a long ways from the meeting rooms. One meeting had shuttles because the dorms and meetings were almost a mile apart, but at least that one was flat--I've also attended meetings where the dorms were atop one mountain and the meetings were atop another. And 25 or more people sharing one bathroom, even though there are multiple sinks/showers/toilets, can mean serious delay in getting through one's morning routine. Some dorms had cafeterias, a nice thing for a quick-but-filling breakfast, but crowded, noisy, and mediocre food. All of these incoveniences are fine for college-aged kids, but as they get older, many people become less willing to put up with that sort of living condition. Some local committees may be worried they'd lose a lot of patrons if they held their convention at a uni. A lot of older scientists didn't go to those meetings that didn't have a nearby hotel (and shuttle) in addition to dorms. As for elevators, most universities have had to install some for ADA compliance (Americans with Disabilities Act). And, in my experience, the university dorm administration handled room assignments. Granted, not all lace groups willing to organize an IOLI convention will have a uni nearby that meets all their needs, but that doesn't mean we couldn't have some of the conventions at a uni. Not that I'm volunteering to put one on, mind you! Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jeff and Lee Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with Vasna about using schools for classes. Either school > is in session (most of the year) or it is not (potentially the summer) > but at that time, the staff is gone. They do not have food, or many services. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention (and competitions)
Dear lacefriends, Just back from a wonderful lace class full of new ideas but missing the time to realize them I had a very short look over my 125 mails and will answer this one. The congresses of Deutscher Klöppel Verband are a bit in another way as those from IOLI. We search our hotels or holiday appartements or what ever ourselves and aren't all together in one hotel all the time. Over the years the participants has become more and more. We have more than 4.000 members but we don't have what you call, if I remeber right, Chapter groups. So the congress is "the event" and for lots of us it is a family event. there are little lacedays all over the country, I should say all over Europe meanwhile but the IOLI_meeting and our congress are comparable. I never took care how many members has taken part but I think the last years more than 400. What I can tell you for sure is that for the congress 2005 61 vendors has promised to come (I couldn't caunt them because I was in the US at that time). Our members aren't only Germans they come from all of Europe and there are some US people also. And as in your country some lacemakers are in several associations, i myself still in 4. For our competitions we have more than 24 participants, the booklet with the works from 2005 has 88 pages, ok there are perhaps sometimes details taken and then one piece needs two pages but for sure not allways. For sure I can tell you that in 1999 there were 102 pieces three of them out of competition and 12 weren't in the correct way. So we had 90 from 13 countries. Hope this clears a bit the differences, sorry that it has become so long. Greetings ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI convention (and competitions)
Oh, sorry Lacefriends, I was too quick. I still found some other dates. In 2003 the theme was "Spiegelungen"/ reflections, can I say so?In that year were only 53 but 4 not for competition s o only 49 from 7 countries. You see it is different from year to year. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
On Mar 16, 2005, at 19:50, Janice Blair wrote: I have been to all conventions, except Puerto Rico, since the one held in Ann Arbor. I have no recollection of staying at a 5 star hotel and some of them would be lucky to receive 3 stars! $100 per night is sky-high for some of us, no matter how lousy the hotel really is. I agree with Weronika - and have been beating this same drum for years, like Cato and his Cartagina obsession - the lace get togethers ought to be set in (on?) a University campus environment; the last OIDFA, in Prague, was a *model* in that respect... And every city large enough to have a "convention-friendly" hotel is likely to have a U campus as well, so that's not an issue. 1) You have an option to share the - dorm - room (and are likely to share the bathroom with more than one person), or you can have a room to yourself if you're willing to pay extra. But, even if you share a *room*, you don't have to share a *bed* (something I personally dislike to the point of abhorrence; the more so, the older I grow) - the beds are singles, being aimed at students, not families. 2) You never run out of *proper* classroom space - something that happened both in Hasbrouck Heights and in Ithaca, where some people had to have classes in bedrooms or in "suites", which were not really suitable as classrooms. Even if there *are* enough "conference rooms" in a hotel to accomodate 35 separate courses (I counted the Denver ones), the needs for "quality light" of businessmen on the one hand and stitchers on the other are not likely to be the same. Classrooms, unlike "conference rooms" are likely to be both large and well lit. 3) Universities may not have ballrooms, but they do have large halls - they need them for "functions" (graduations, etc) 4) The U cafeteria food may be unimaginative and a tad heavy on the starches, but it offers *some* choice and is *still* cheaper than the "special of the day" at *any* hotel large enough to have its own restaurant. And, in US, at least, fast-food places if not actually *on* campus (some universities have "food courts" on campus) are within less then spitting distance - students migh riot, if deprived of theit pizza :) There's but a *single* obstacle (as far as I've heard) to organising IOLI Conferences on U campuses: the elder membership (the majority of attendees) is disinclined to *walk* from one building to the next (bedroom-food-class sequence)... And some object to student fare vis food on the "been there, done that 40 yrs before, and don't want to do it again" principle (but you send your precious child into the same environment, without a second thought, no?). Unstated but understood is also the problem that some of the elder attendes would not *fit* in (on?) a single bed... The OIDFA/Prague organisers did - IMO - a brilliant job of "marrying" the divergent needs of "have's" and "have not's"... They booked places in surrounding (and superiour ) *little* hotels for those who couldn't stomach the U hoi-polloi as their daily fare. Those hotels were all within a short taxi-ride (1-3 bus stops) from the campus and the "events". To be sure, it was a pain to collect them (and their complaints) on a trip day, but better than having them bitch abut low standards 24/7... And since all U meals were by choice, they could have theirs - better - elsewhere. Perfect. When I attend IOLI (and other US) events, I try to stay at the hub. But I *do* resent -whether I'm flush or skint - having to spend a load of moolah (on top of a load of moolah spent on the air ticket), on hotel "do-dads" like environmentally-incorrect one-use shampoo bottles etc, only to be faced with having to work in a make-shift "classroom"... Finding a hotel to have the convention *Why* does it have to be a *hotel*??? Weronika, you will not be alone on Wednesday if you miss out on the trips. I plan on working on my lace that day So do I. But, like Weronika, I'd prefer to be able to opt-out of a trip at one *end* of the event, not in the middle of it. With the trip in the middle, whether I take it or not, I still have to pay for the hotel room for that night... We can walk to the Super Walmart to stock up on cheap food. Their advertisements don't always live up to their delivery - you have to watch your step carefully. Wonder if they sell cheap plonk as well. Ours does. *Very* cheap... barely a step above denatured alcohol, at least in 1liter bottles. The gallons might offer something drinkable :) Weronika, "plonk" is Brit for "cheap wine" -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
On Mar 16, 2005, at 23:46, Vasna Zago wrote: Geesh, Tamara, sometimes there's no making you happy, eh? ;-> On the contrary... I'm easy to please, as long as my pocket-snake (which bites whenever I dip im my pocket for cash) remains sleepy... :) Mild as milk and twice as bland - that's me :) Anyway, I have a few comments. One, is that it's impossible to find a decent hotel room under $100/night these days. Granted. Lots of my faculty go to conferences all over and room rates are running about $150-$180 per night. Some of those conference rooms are not paid by attendees, but by their "firm". Less so in the case of teachers (who are less and less likely to go, even though the conferences might be vital to them), but for certain sure in the case of the big cheeses (currently on trials for fraud)... The hotels have beenn trimming their rates to people on "business accounts" for years, as have the airlines. Secondly, conference fees normally run in the $350 range, so IOLI convention registration fees currently are dirt cheap. I didn't even think of questioning the registration fee - I feel we get a heck of a lot for it (though I'd happily drop the "goodie bag" for a $25 discount) - but now that you mention it... :) The "normal" conferences you're talking about are for *professionals*; IOLI conference, in contrast, is for people pursuing a hobby. We are not attending a conference and the workshops because - armed with all we learn there - we hope to make big bucks in the future... We go for personal enrichment, yes, but it has a different face :) Thirdly, I work at a university, and they don't "do" conferences anymore. Like some other people have said - depends on the school. Washington and Lee (the local U, *mostly* undergraduate) started to promote "summer activities" some 20+ yrs ago, as a means of getting money; parts of the U *had* to be open all year round but most of the paying students (undergraduates) went home for 3 months. I've never known them to do *business* conferences, but they do all sorts of "stuff" - Alumni College (older people - alumni and spouses - coming back for some mental reinvigoration) , Summer Scholars (kids in junior year of highschool thinking of going to college getting a taste of it), various sports "camps" (one to three week long), and Arts Fair (4 weeks of art classes for kids between 6 and 18; 4 hrs a day, no food, no lodging, just classroom space). Given an early-enough booking, they *might* be willing to put up a lace conference. It wouldn't be as good for them as the other enterprises - I don't think any of the faculty could be employed as teachers, for example. But lace is still culture, and qualifies as adding to the cachet :) And there ar other colleges (junior) around, with fewer resources and, therefore, fewer scruples... BUT, in comparison to other professional conferences, IOLI is still a terrific bargain. In comparison to (other) *professional* conferences, yes... But we *are not* professionals; we are housewives, dabbbling at a hobby... We are not sponsored - in any part - by our place of employment (if we're employed at all); we have to shell out of our own pocket, no taxpayer money involved... As to when the tours happen (mid week, late week), the times and length of classes, etc., it's all up to what the convention planners want to do. And, as we can tell from the messages, here, whatever one does, SOMEBODY is not going to like the arrangement. You can please some of the people all of the time, or all of the people some of the time, but not both; sure. But the profile of workshops offered at the Conferences has changed over the 16 yrs I've been a member of IOLI; the 3hr and the 6hr "workshops" seem to have disappeared (RIP ), and the 12hr and the 24hr ones have become prominent. Presumably, because *intensive* was what most people wanted. So, who knows... If enough people object to paying for a night in a hotel room so that others can attend something totally unrelated to lace (a horse-shoe toss or whatever), then the "attraction" will also be moved in such a way as to accomodate the tourists but without putting the onus on the lacemakers. Just my two cents, ma'am. Heck, with the dollar in the dumps, I never bother with less than a quarter... Ma'am :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
> On Mar 16, 2005, at 19:50, Janice Blair wrote: > > > I have been to all conventions, except Puerto Rico, since the one held > > in Ann Arbor. I have no recollection of staying at a 5 star hotel and > > some of them would be lucky to receive 3 stars! Tamara wrote: > $100 per night is sky-high for some of us, no matter how lousy the > hotel really is. I agree with Weronika - and have been beating this > same drum for years, like Cato and his Cartagina obsession - the lace > get togethers ought to be set in (on?) a University campus environment; > the last OIDFA, in Prague, was a *model* in that respect... And every > city large enough to have a "convention-friendly" hotel is likely to > have a U campus as well, so that's not an issue. (rest snipped.) Geesh, Tamara, sometimes there's no making you happy, eh? ;-> Anyway, I have a few comments. One, is that it's impossible to find a decent hotel room under $100/night these days. Lots of my faculty go to conferences all over and room rates are running about $150-$180 per night. Secondly, conference fees normally run in the $350 range, so IOLI convention registration fees currently are dirt cheap. Thirdly, I work at a university, and they don't "do" conferences anymore. School runs year round. Students are in the dorms all year. There are no extra spaces, we barely have enough space for our own classes and staff, much less renting precious classrooms out to conferences. Universities are facing major financial difficulties, and the times when one could rent a university for an outside conference (at least here in the US) are long gone. So, that option no longer exists for IOLI convention planners. It's a hotel or nothing. And, to get a hotel with any amount of classroom space means it's gonna cost the convention go-ers. Them's the facts. BUT, in comparison to other professional conferences, IOLI is still a terrific bargain. As to when the tours happen (mid week, late week), the times and length of classes, etc., it's all up to what the convention planners want to do. And, as we can tell from the messages, here, whatever one does, SOMEBODY is not going to like the arrangement. They/we do the best we can and hope the majority of people will be happy. Just my two cents, ma'am. Vasna In sunny Boulder, Colorado, where the crocuses got buried in the snow this week. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
Thirdly, I work at a university, and they don't "do" conferences anymore. School runs year round. Students are in the dorms all year. There are no extra spaces, we barely have enough space for our own classes and staff, much less renting precious classrooms out to conferences. Universities are facing major financial difficulties, and the times when one could rent a university for an outside conference (at least here in the US) are long gone. So, that option no longer exists for IOLI convention planners. It's a hotel or nothing. And, to get a hotel with any amount of classroom space means it's gonna cost the convention go-ers. Them's the facts. BUT, in comparison to other professional conferences, IOLI is still a terrific bargain. Your university may not 'do' conferences but others do. We held a conference at a local U in 2001 and had great service. 'Doing Conferences' is their summer business. We plan to use it or another one in 2-3 years when we host again. Lorri Washington State - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
I don't know if Caltech does conferences, but I know there are lots of free rooms in the student dorms over the summer, so I'm sure it's possible. Grad students do tend to work year round, but the majority of undergrads don't. Weronika > Your university may not 'do' conferences but others do. We held a > conference at a local U in 2001 and had great service. > 'Doing Conferences' is their summer business. We plan to use it or another > one in 2-3 years when we host again. > Lorri > Washington State > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
At 9:46 PM -0700 3/16/05, Vasna Zago wrote: Thirdly, I work at a university, and they don't "do" conferences anymore. School runs year round. Students are in the dorms all year. There are no extra spaces, we barely have enough space for our own classes and staff, much less renting precious classrooms out to conferences. Universities are facing major financial difficulties, and the times when one could rent a university for an outside conference (at least here in the US) are long gone. So, that option no longer exists for IOLI convention planners. It's a hotel or nothing. And, to get a hotel with any amount of classroom space means it's gonna cost the convention go-ers. Them's the facts. BUT, in comparison to other professional conferences, IOLI is still a terrific bargain. The Embroiderers' Guild of America, Inc., has smaller regional seminars in some years, and in my area (Mid-Atlantic), we used to hold these seminars on university campuses until the late 1990s. But after that time, they changed to being held at hotels. Why? Because the organizers found that the universities had started charging as much as convention-style hotels for definitely not convention-style accommodations. It seems that the universities had caught on to the fact that they could make some real money renting out their space for these types of activities. This may not be true everywhere, but it is a factor in this part of the country. As to when the tours happen (mid week, late week), the times and length of classes, etc., it's all up to what the convention planners want to do. And, as we can tell from the messages, here, whatever one does, SOMEBODY is not going to like the arrangement. They/we do the best we can and hope the majority of people will be happy. Although it does mean one extra night in the hotel, I think it is nice to have a one-day break in the middle, especially for a newbie to lace-making, so that her head doesn't just overflow with all the learning crammed in there from intensive workshops. Even if you choose not to take a trip but instead work on your lace, it's at a more relaxed pace, with no time restrictions on when you're doing it, and so allows one to perhaps clear the brain a little for the next 2 days of lessons. -- Mary, in Baltimore, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
In a message dated 3/16/2005 11:33:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's but a *single* obstacle (as far as I've heard) to organising IOLI Conferences on U campuses: the elder membership (the majority of attendees) is disinclined to *walk* from one building to the next (bedroom-food-class sequence)... And some object to student fare vis food on the "been there, done that 40 yrs before, and don't want to do it again" principle (but you send your precious child into the same environment, without a second thought, no?). Unstated but understood is also the problem that some of the elder attendes would not *fit* in (on?) a single bed... Having spent some time among the "mobility impaired" while still youthful, I would like to offer the observation that the IOLI Convention is a vacation that, generally speaking, is one that you can do with limited mobility, especially if the hotel is well supplied with elevators. (Funny how sedentary hobbies attract people who don't walk too well.) Last year's convention in Harrisburg demonstrated the importance of a handicapped friendly environment. Although in some ways the layout was good, only two floors to the hotel. In other ways it was bad since there was a set of stairs at the entrance that must be traversed with suitcases etc. Worst of all was that many of the activities took place in a two story lobby with a stair case. The banquet/sales room was on the bottom floor below the two story lobby, and was equipped with a cumbersome wheel chair lift rather than an elevator. One day I was present when a group of perhaps fifteen, including hotel employees, friends and supporters of a wheel chair bound individual and curiosity seekers gathered to assist in transporting the person down the stairs to the sales room. Meanwhile a steady stream of people using canes, some of them red in the face and breathing laboriously were working their way up the other side of the steps crying out, "I'm OK, I'm OK, really I am." Undoubtedly all these people would have to stay home if they had to walk to cafeterias and classrooms in other parts of the campus, or else there would have to be cadres of people transporting them in vans, etc. And sometimes after a day of extremely exhausting and painful transporting yourself around, you might want to splash out for room service! It is often said that being disabled is expensive and in a sense the entire convention is bearing the expense of being available to people who are not terribly mobile, but that is a lot of our group. (Some of this impairment is invisible in the form of heart problems.) How did they handle handicapped people in Prague? When I visited Germany which is as far east in Europe as I have dared to go since becoming mobility impaired, I was amazed at the number of people I saw dragging themselves around on two canes, until I realized that they were building brand new buildings with no elevators there, so wheel chairs were not very useful. It was two canes, or stay home. It really weeded out the weaklings! (I began to take my cane everywhere because, while in the US you can just operate as a normal person using elevators and escalators, in Germany when you arrive with a cane, sometimes, if you are lucky, word is sent to the back office and in about ten minutes someone arrives with a key and unlocks a freight elevator for you and conducts you up to the fourth floor. Of course, when it is time to leave, that person is nowhere to be found.) However this points out a basic problem that the accommodations very much determine who goes to conventions. The needs of younger people and the needs of older people are somewhat in conflict. Pity the poor organizers of conventions. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location, location, location - and price
> $25 discount) - but now that you mention it... :) The "normal" > conferences you're talking about are for *professionals*; IOLI > conference, in contrast, is for people pursuing a hobby. We are not > attending a conference and the workshops because - armed with all we > learn there - we hope to make big bucks in the future... We go for > personal enrichment, yes, but it has a different face :) This is an interesting point. It's true we are a bunch of (basically) hobbyists getting together to mess around, socialize, and learn some new stuff about lace (not to mention arousing that pocket snake in the sales room). But, I don't think that makes any difference to the hotel. They're gonna charge us professional rates because they can. So, there is a difference and yet there isn't, if you follow me. Just because we don't have an employer to pay for our hobby/obssession/convention doesn't make the experience less expensive on the planning end. If we want to attend convention, we just have to buck it up and pay for it. I know! We get a government grant to study the IOLI conventions. Say a couple of million dollars. That would cut down on our out of pocket expenses. :-> I think we should all apply for different government grants. One of my ideas has been to study fat cats to see if their whiskers are longer than thin cats. Think anyone would pay for that? ;-> I'm actually enjoying this thread - it's brought up a lot of really great issues and ideas. Discussion is always good. Vasna Zago "thank god I'm a hot chick with superpowers" - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: IOLI Convention -location x 3 - and price
Hi everyone Yes, this is a most interesting thread - one should certainly never take for granted the volunteer effort behind the lace conventions/conferences/seminars/gathering-things. The first task for any organizer is to identify the choices of 'where' then eliminate by 'too' - such as too far from airport (or somesuch), too small, too expensive, cheap but too uncomfortable, etc., and a biggy - good but too booked :( Most public places in NA have to be wheelchair accessible, ergo the less ambulatory should be able to get around as well. If walking distance could pose problems, it would do for the lace gathering organizer to keep in mind a shuttle service from accommodation to classes, such as presented itself for our PNWL conference at UVic last year (by the courtesy of one very kind lacemaker and her husband). Campus conference facilities can be very good - see if 'conferences services' is listed in the links at a particular campus website. They will list capacities, and services available and you'll know very soon if it 'too' is or isn't a possibility. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
