[lace] Spiders

2015-08-04 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

I was told back when the revival was just starting, that torchon was made
right side uppermost and when a spider is well made it should stand up in the
centre. If you look sideways on to the lace spiders, gimps etc. stand up proud
and add life to the lace, the side against the pillow is flat and dead.
However, we make lace for our own enjoyment and as with many ‘rules’, look
carefully at your lace and make your own decision which side you like the
best.

Blow the dust, let’s make lace

Alex

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[lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread d2oneill
In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I came 
across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders, for what is 
elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or spider 
filling. Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers 
should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the first half of 
the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin up high and 
tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs up tight... : 
contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and smooth the spider 
center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays? 
Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 

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Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread Bespokethreadsandyarns
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin 
mark in center? Thanks

Sue M

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 On Aug 1, 2015, at 11:25 AM, d2one...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I 
 came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders, for 
 what is elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or 
 spider filling. Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These 
 centers should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the 
 first half of the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin 
 up high and tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs 
 up tight... : contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and 
 smooth the spider center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in 
 spider ground nowadays? 
 Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 
 
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Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread robinlace
 Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: 
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin 
mark in center? Thanks

I was taught (and not by Tamara) to flatten the spiders, too.  But for me, 
flattening and removing the pinhole are the same operation.  When you remove 
the pin you have room to pull on the central pairs, bringing the threads into 
that center-most area, filling the hole and flattening the body.  Sometimes the 
next-outward pairs also need to be tugged a bit.  Just don't pull on the outer 
pairs any more than necessary, or it will bunch up again.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)

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Re: [lace] Spiders

2012-02-10 Thread lacelady
Congrats, Susan!  Moving lace up on a pattern is very survivable. I'm proud of 
you.

As to spiders... the basic one is easy to learn and remember.  Maybe even a 
variation or two, but I would also have the directions with me if I were 
alternating a number of different ones.  And, yes, there are many different 
spiders.  I know of two books written just about spiders.

We should get together.  I made a hat band with different spiders all along it. 
 It would go well with your belt.

Alice in Oregon -- where my new kitchen is supposed to be installed today and 
all finished by Tuesday. (Knock on wood for luck.) 

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  My spider bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider 
motifs 5 times.  I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times  
lived to tell the tale!  Unfortunately after all that practice, I still need to 
use the directions to make each spider.  Which begs the question--is there a 
point at which spiders become second nature?  I can see memorizing one or two, 
maybe three, but good grief there are lots of spiders out there!

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[lace] Spiders

2012-02-09 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  No pictures yet, but I'm celebrating a TA DA moment!  My spider 
bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider motifs 5 
times.  I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times  lived to 
tell the tale!  Unfortunately after all that practice, I still need to use the 
directions to make each spider.  Which begs the question--is there a point at 
which spiders become second nature?  I can see memorizing one or two, maybe 
three, but good grief there are lots of spiders out there!  Tomorrow I plan to 
work on trimming stray threads  tidying my finish.  Sorry to say, knots were 
used as I didn't know how to end neatly  the finishes shown in Practical 
Skills didn't seem to match my circumstances.  So I followed the Nike school of 
lacemaking--Just Do It!!  Maybe all will be forgiven when I model the belt on 
my jeans on Saturday.  South Florida Fiber Guild is meeting for a felting 
workshop, a photo shoot of previously made transfer-dyed silks !
  show  tell.  I can hardly wait to see if the results are as envisioned!!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA

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Re: [lace] Spiders

2012-02-09 Thread bev walker
Hello Susan and everyone

Excellent belt idea!

For remembering the how-to it might help to think of  the bobbin lace
element 'spider' as what it really is, a type of crossing.

In half a spider, the pairs have crossed each other and are on different
sides than when they started. In a complete spider, they cross back again
'home.'

Practice, practice ;)

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 Hello All!  No pictures yet, but I'm celebrating a TA DA moment!  My
 spider bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider
 motifs 5 times.  I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times
  lived to tell the tale!  Unfortunately after all that practice, I still
 need to use the directions to make each spider.  Which begs the
 question--is there a point at which spiders become second nature?  I

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Spiders

2008-09-22 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

The straight laces are generally made 'right side' uppermost.  When you look
sideways at the top of a newly made piece just after it has come off the
pillow you will see a lot of ripples and raised points, such as spider
centres, that add texture. Turn it over and look at the flattened side that
was against the pillow and you will see the reason for this. Having the
centres of spiders rising in a small cone it a sign of good tension. However,
it is all a question of preference and if you prefer your flat - by all means
make them that way. Don't feel you have to make them one way or the other,
it's your lace, make it your way.

Alex

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Re: [lace] Spiders

2008-09-22 Thread robinlace
 Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position
when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter. 


I do the row of pinholes surrounding the spider (including the bottom-center 
one), then stop, pull the pin, and carefully tension everyone.  Working 
downward from the mid-line, I tension both sides at the same time, watching the 
bump on the spider's body.  Sometimes I do them all a second time, if the first 
time wasn't enough.  I'd rather err on the side of not-enough pulling, and have 
to repeat, than to pull too much and distort it.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, Califonria, USA

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[lace] Spiders

2008-09-21 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi All

I am now well into my christmas card making and was just working on one with
spiders when this question came to mind.

When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position
when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter. I just tried it on
the last one and it seems squashed rather than tidy, or should I just leave
the pin I and do it that way.

Thanks

Wendy St Dogmaels
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Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s  Live Search

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[lace] Spiders

2008-09-21 Thread Jane Partridge
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wendy Davies 
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When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position
when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter.


If working a spider surrounded by ground stitches, then I always use the 
centre pin to work the bottom (last) ground stitch, then tension the 
pairs carefully. Remember to tension at the half way stage (before you 
put the centre pair in) as well.


Some spiders have more than one pin in the centre, these can be left in.

If your spider is surrounded by trails, or worked in spider ground, then 
it is a case of deciding when you have done sufficient to support the 
legs coming out of the spider, but not gone too far so that you cannot 
work out which pairs to tension. Always tension two legs together - one 
on one side, and the corresponding leg from the other.


There is nothing wrong with deciding that you like the effect of the 
raised centre, with pin hole, that results from leaving the pin in 
place. The finished lace should be something that when you look at it, 
*you* are pleased with the effect.


--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] spiders and roseground

2007-09-22 Thread Jane O'Connor
Aurelia mentioned working on Christine Springett's hanky edging of spiders and 
roseground. If you want to see a photo of it, go to 
www.lacemakersofillinois.org , click on gallery and go to Jane. cream and 
yellow edging is the pattern. It was made for a favorite cousin's daughter's 
wedding in Italy.
   
  Jane O'Connor
  New Lenox, Il USA
  Currently enjoying Tucson, AZ

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[lace] Spiders

2007-07-03 Thread Jean Nathan

Robin wrote;

 By putting a pin at the
center, you can tension your pairs around it, which pushes the body
stitches upward against the twists of the legs.  If this doesn't do the
trick, then maybe you're putting too many twists on each leg before
reaching the body

For plain whole stitch or half stitch spiders, as a general rule I twist the 
legs the same number of times as there are legs coming in from each side, so 
for a spider with 2 legs coming in from each side I twist twice, for three 
from each side twist 3 times and so on. Seems to work.


Doesn't apply for spider ground, when I always twist twice, or for other 
types of spider (such as spider with a hole, haloed spider), when I judge by 
appearance.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Spiders

2007-07-02 Thread Sue Babbs
although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how to 
do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided ;-p


Tania (Denmark)



I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a lot 
of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look better. I 
hope that the following will help you.


I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the ground 
immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the ground. 
That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then the 
joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything else.


Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should then 
pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider look good 
and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand pair and the top 
left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the next pairs down each 
side until you have done them all. Then I usually go back to the top and 
start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth it to get a nice 
spider.


Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding pins 
are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has the 
effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can sometimes 
appear around the central pin.


Sue Babbs

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Re: [lace] Spiders

2007-07-02 Thread Jennifer Hester

Hi Tania, Sue and all spiders,

Isn't it amazing that this is exactly how I work my spiders.  I wasn't 
taught this way but just developed the techniques as I did more and more 
lace.  They say great minds think alike :-)))


I now teach my students to take the pin out when they have completely 
enclosed the spider as it gets rid of that volcano in the middle.  They are 
a bit nervious the first time but with a little practice the spiders look so 
much nicer.


Happy spidering,
Jenny from wet, wet Wales

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Subject: [lace] Spiders


although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how 
to do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided 
;-p


Tania (Denmark)



I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a 
lot of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look 
better. I hope that the following will help you.


I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the 
ground immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the 
ground. That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then 
the joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything 
else.


Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should then 
pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider look good 
and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand pair and the 
top left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the next pairs 
down each side until you have done them all. Then I usually go back to the 
top and start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth it to get a 
nice spider.


Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding 
pins are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has 
the effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can 
sometimes appear around the central pin.


Sue Babbs

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Fw: [lace] Spiders

2007-07-02 Thread sue
I was never taught that when making spiders, but I found that someone else 
in the class was.  I rarely work them, as I didn't like the lump in the 
middle, but recently remembered about taking the centre pin out and have 
worked at it a bit, I find I am happier to work them and not going out of my 
way to avoid spiders in my work.

It is amazing what a difference this makes.
Sue T, Dorset UK



Hi Tania, Sue and all spiders,

Isn't it amazing that this is exactly how I work my spiders.  I wasn't 
taught this way but just developed the techniques as I did more and more 
lace.  They say great minds think alike :-)))


I now teach my students to take the pin out when they have completely 
enclosed the spider as it gets rid of that volcano in the middle.  They 
are a bit nervious the first time but with a little practice the spiders 
look so much nicer.


Happy spidering,
Jenny from wet, wet Wales

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From: Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: [lace] Spiders


although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how 
to do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided 
;-p


Tania (Denmark)



I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a 
lot of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look 
better. I hope that the following will help you.


I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the 
ground immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the 
ground. That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then 
the joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything 
else.


Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should 
then pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider 
look good and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand 
pair and the top left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the 
next pairs down each side until you have done them all. Then I usually go 
back to the top and start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth 
it to get a nice spider.


Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding 
pins are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has 
the effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can 
sometimes appear around the central pin.


Sue Babbs

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Re: [lace] Spiders

2007-07-02 Thread Sue Babbs
I was always taught to leave in that pin, but the spiders are much nicer 
when I remove it. Sometimes going against the rules works :)

Sue Babbs

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[lace] Spiders - long

2007-07-02 Thread Laceandbits
As well as taking out the pin it helps you not have the central 'volcano' (as 
someone else described it!) if you spread the pairs well to the sides as you 
pull up the first half of the spider.  This gives them room to lie flat.  If 
you pull them all towards you then you are encouraging bunching.

As you pull up this first half, do it in stages.  I always say to students 
that It's supposed to look a mess when you first put the pin in  :-)Pull 
each thread gently to not quite as tight as it wants to be, then work across 
again, tensioning them properly.  The reason for this is that is you pull the 
first few as tight as they'll go you then have more difficulty and stress on 
the 
thread to tension the other threads through the tight ones.  The bigger the 
spider, the more important I have found this.

Before you start the second half, check that all the legs are properly 
twisted like a rope, not with one thread straight and the other wound around it 
- 
another reason for tensioning in stages.

Work the second half of the body and pick up into the ground.  Again as 
someone else said, join in all the legs before you go off to do other things.  
If 
one side is ground and the other side the legs are going into cloth stitch, do 
the ground side first as the cloth stitch holds them really tightly and this 
is one reason for the body being lop sided.

Bigger than three leg spiders tend to stay more even if you pick up a couple 
of legs on one side, then a couple on the other, rather than all the way down 
one side first.  

BTW, also with big spiders you are almost certainly going to need a different 
number of twists on the legs.  The normal three twists on the first leg or 
two, then perhaps four for a leg or two then maybe five or even six for a 
really 
big one.  If you look at the oval body shape in a square frame you can see 
why; the side legs are always longer than the top ones and you need to twist so 
the legs all look the same 'ply'.  Just don't go made and overtwist as you 
don't want it to end up twisting the lace once the pins are out.  Be prepared 
to 
experiment and undo on the first one, then write it all down and keep the note 
with the lace.

If you have a lot of problems with lopsided bodies, analyse what you are 
doing.  
Is it balanced at the half way stage?  If not see the first paragraph and 
tension out until it is.  Take the pin out and spread them back out and start 
again if need be.
Is it always lopsided the same way?  Do you always pick up the legs the same 
side first?  If it's the first but not the second then you are perhaps much 
stronger handed one side (and not necessarily your dominant side, I think 
sometimes the weaker hand over-compensates); if this is the case then be 
consciously 
much more subtle when you are picking up the legs, don't tension them to 
their final position until they are all picked up into their ground stitch and 
then do it by stages.
If it's yes to both of the above, often all that is needed is for you to 
remember to pick up the other side first; the strangeness of feel this makes 
you 
much more aware of what you are doing.

Finally don't forget all the different spiders that there are; any cloth 
stitch spider can be replaced with a half stitch one, and that eliminates the 
problems of volcanoes and lopsidedness.  Worked exactly the same as a normal 
spider except using half stitch!  
Another very pretty replacement for a two legged spider is the star - twist 
each leg once and counting the pairs as 1,2,3 and 4 from the left, cross the 
centre thread (L over R!) of pairs 1 and 2, and the centre thread of pairs 3 
and 
4.  Cloth stitch pair two through 3 and 4, then pair 1 through pairs 2 (pin 
in the centre) and 3 (ie work the first half of a normal spider).  Finally half 
stitch pairs 1 and 2, and 3 and 4.  MUCH easier to work that write, so long 
as you cope with crossing the middle threads - but that's just the first 
movement of a cloth stitch.  Again, can't go lopsided or bunch up.
There are lots of variations of spiders with holes and haloes and you can 
combine half and cloth stitch in the same spider, and you can work spider 
grounds 
with or without other grounds between them.  So experiment and make your lace 
original, even if you are using someone else's design.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire, where with all the rain we are having Incey Wincey 
Spider will have been washed will have been washed out of the spout many times 
today.   

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[lace] spiders

2005-09-27 Thread Sue Harvey
I have just returned home after a week at my daughters house and my Avon lady
has left me the latest catalogue,   on page 130 what do I find - a  lovely
spider brooch, it  is silver plated and set with sparkly stones I am ordering
it straight away.

Happy lacing
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

Not advertising, just thought that other spiders might like to get one too.

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[lace] Spiders! What webs have you woven this year?

2005-01-03 Thread Patricia Dowden
Hi Spiders!

I was lucky enough to have a week off at Christmas and a low-key social 
calendar.  So I finished a couple of long term UFOs.

I have been laboring on interpreting a 16th Century Needle Lace pattern in 
Tatting.  This particular pattern was composed of simply the cordonnet in 
little circles (interpreted as tatted rings) and long arcs, (interpreted as 
tatted chains).  The pictures of the 16th Century NL pattern and my tatted 
interpretation are available for viewing at eTatters (no membership or login is 
required, the albums are public)

The Tatting: http://www.etatters.com/album_showpage.php?pic_id=462

The color coded picture/diagram:  
http://www.etatters.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=463

The other thing I have finished (except for the joining) is an edging for the 
lovely, lavender filled pin cushion from Pauline.
I should be able to put done to it tonight.  Then I will post it in Webshots 
and send a copy to Lacefairy.  I glitzed it up as much as I could with gold 
braid and cubic, fire polished red glass beads.   

Happy New Year!

Patty Dowden

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Re: [lace] Re: lace spiders

2004-04-26 Thread Lorri Ferguson
  there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of
  Torchon Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as 
  well as10 patterns for edgings.
Usual disclaimers - more info here: 
http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html

 I'm glad to see she's republished it
:( Yet it is a very nice and useful booklet.

Julie also self-published a booklet A Study on Torchon Grounds.  It too is 
out of print but some of us who know Julie are encouraging her to reprint it 
also.
But she is very busy with 'family matters' right now.  Let's all keep our 
fingers crossed.

Lorri 

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[lace] lace spiders

2004-04-25 Thread Bev Walker
Hi Mary and all

Just a note - visually they are spiders, technically they are crossings -
the lesson 4 in the TWB gives 4 methods of crossing 6 pairs.

If you find you actually do like spiders - the bobbin lace variety! -
there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of Torchon
Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as well as
10 patterns for edgings.

Usual disclaimers - more info here:
http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html

-- 
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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[lace] Re: lace spiders

2004-04-25 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Apr 25, 2004, at 19:28, Bev Walker wrote:
If you find you actually do like spiders - the bobbin lace variety! -
there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of 
Torchon
Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as well 
as
10 patterns for edgings.

Usual disclaimers - more info here:
http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html
I'm glad to see she's republished it and -- apparently -- expanded it 
as well (it now seems to have 12 patterns instead of 10, according to 
the website listing). When I got it a couple of years ago (one copy for 
me and one, I think, for Sulochona?), I was told that was it, and she 
had no plans for doing it again... :( Yet it is a very nice and useful 
booklet.

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Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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re: [lace] spiders

2004-01-06 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone

I love the idea of untwisted spider legs. I have a few here and there in
my samples. If I notice too long after the fact, I go 'tsk' and carry on -
it is my tribute to being handmade - if you deliberately leave them
untwisted - by accident then design, or purely by design, some might say
they look untidy (those who are expecting to see twists), but yes, a new
bobbin lace stitch - what shall we call it? The untwisted spider crossing,
with variations?

bye for now,
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) where we got the promised snow and
now we're waiting for the promised melt



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bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~wt912

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[lace] spiders

2004-01-05 Thread Haddad
Someone once told me that a mistake is a pattern, or something along that line. 
Interesting thought, and I never forgot it.

Last week I was making yet another bookmark, and accidentally forgot to twist the 
legs of the first spider.  Rather than take it out (the work of a whole minute and a 
half!), I played with the bottom legs of the spider, and managed to make them look 
like the top.  A bit hard to keep the lower body of the spider taut, but I rather 
liked the effect. Enough so that I deliberately made the third (and last) spider the 
same way. And out of a mistake, made a pattern.

Anyone else done something similar? Are there patterns that call for untwisted legs?

Rose-Marie
in very cold and windy Abbotsford Canada,
where the weather is thankfully due to change with the change of the moon on Wednesday.

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Re: [lace] spiders

2004-01-05 Thread Ruth Budge
Yes, I'll put my hands up for that!   I was making a large circular edging
(Bucks) when I realised that I'd missed some nuance of the pattern repeat.  I
quickly counted how many pattern repeats there were round the circle, and
decided that, if I repeated my mistake every third repeat, it'd look like part
of the pattern.   

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

  --- Haddad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Someone once told me that a mistake is a
pattern, or something along that
 line. Interesting thought, and I never forgot it.
 
 Last week I was making yet another bookmark, and accidentally forgot to
 twist the legs of the first spider.  Rather than take it out (the work of a
 whole minute and a half!), I played with the bottom legs of the spider, and
 managed to make them look like the top.  A bit hard to keep the lower body of
 the spider taut, but I rather liked the effect. Enough so that I deliberately
 made the third (and last) spider the same way. And out of a mistake, made a
 pattern.


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[lace] spiders

2004-01-05 Thread Wildgun004smate
Ok ya'll,

If I can ever get to the point of making something big enough that has 
repeats I will be exstatic. :)

Lynn
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will be a whopping 28b.

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Re: [lace] spiders

2004-01-05 Thread Ruth Budge
Lynn, you *will* get there, I can assure you!!  You'll even get to the stage
where you can listen to the television (I maintain that any craftsperson only
listens, not watches television!) whilst you make lace!   Now *that* was
something I never thought I'd master!   Just keep practicing!

Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Ok ya'll,
 
 If I can ever get to the point of making something big enough that has 
 repeats I will be exstatic. :)
 
 Lynn
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 from Clarksburg, WV where it has turned cold and nasty, the high for tomorrow
 
 will be a whopping 28b.


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Re: [lace] spiders

2004-01-05 Thread Clay Blackwell
This reminds me of advice I used to get from music
teachers...  when performing, if you make a mistake, then
make it consistently and most people will never hear it.

Clay

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 Someone once told me that a mistake is a pattern, or
something along that line. Interesting thought, and I never
forgot it.

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