[lace] Spiders
Hi Arachnids I was told back when the revival was just starting, that torchon was made right side uppermost and when a spider is well made it should stand up in the centre. If you look sideways on to the lace spiders, gimps etc. stand up proud and add life to the lace, the side against the pillow is flat and dead. However, we make lace for our own enjoyment and as with many ârulesâ, look carefully at your lace and make your own decision which side you like the best. Blow the dust, letâs make lace Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] spiders in lace
In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders, for what is elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or spider filling. Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the first half of the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin up high and tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs up tight... : contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and smooth the spider center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays? Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] spiders in lace
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin mark in center? Thanks Sue M Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2015, at 11:25 AM, d2one...@comcast.net wrote: In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders, for what is elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or spider filling. Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the first half of the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin up high and tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs up tight... : contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and smooth the spider center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays? Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] spiders in lace
Bespokethreadsandyarns bespokethreadsandya...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin mark in center? Thanks I was taught (and not by Tamara) to flatten the spiders, too. But for me, flattening and removing the pinhole are the same operation. When you remove the pin you have room to pull on the central pairs, bringing the threads into that center-most area, filling the hole and flattening the body. Sometimes the next-outward pairs also need to be tugged a bit. Just don't pull on the outer pairs any more than necessary, or it will bunch up again. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com Parvum leve mentes capiunt (Little things amuse little minds) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Spiders
Congrats, Susan! Moving lace up on a pattern is very survivable. I'm proud of you. As to spiders... the basic one is easy to learn and remember. Maybe even a variation or two, but I would also have the directions with me if I were alternating a number of different ones. And, yes, there are many different spiders. I know of two books written just about spiders. We should get together. I made a hat band with different spiders all along it. It would go well with your belt. Alice in Oregon -- where my new kitchen is supposed to be installed today and all finished by Tuesday. (Knock on wood for luck.) - Original Message - From: hottl...@neo.rr.com My spider bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider motifs 5 times. I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times lived to tell the tale! Unfortunately after all that practice, I still need to use the directions to make each spider. Which begs the question--is there a point at which spiders become second nature? I can see memorizing one or two, maybe three, but good grief there are lots of spiders out there! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Spiders
Hello All! No pictures yet, but I'm celebrating a TA DA moment! My spider bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider motifs 5 times. I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times lived to tell the tale! Unfortunately after all that practice, I still need to use the directions to make each spider. Which begs the question--is there a point at which spiders become second nature? I can see memorizing one or two, maybe three, but good grief there are lots of spiders out there! Tomorrow I plan to work on trimming stray threads tidying my finish. Sorry to say, knots were used as I didn't know how to end neatly the finishes shown in Practical Skills didn't seem to match my circumstances. So I followed the Nike school of lacemaking--Just Do It!! Maybe all will be forgiven when I model the belt on my jeans on Saturday. South Florida Fiber Guild is meeting for a felting workshop, a photo shoot of previously made transfer-dyed silks ! show tell. I can hardly wait to see if the results are as envisioned!! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Spiders
Hello Susan and everyone Excellent belt idea! For remembering the how-to it might help to think of the bobbin lace element 'spider' as what it really is, a type of crossing. In half a spider, the pairs have crossed each other and are on different sides than when they started. In a complete spider, they cross back again 'home.' Practice, practice ;) On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:50 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hello All! No pictures yet, but I'm celebrating a TA DA moment! My spider bookmark pattern became a belt by repeating the 8 different spider motifs 5 times. I still can't believe that I moved the strip several times lived to tell the tale! Unfortunately after all that practice, I still need to use the directions to make each spider. Which begs the question--is there a point at which spiders become second nature? I -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Spiders
Dear Arachnids The straight laces are generally made 'right side' uppermost. When you look sideways at the top of a newly made piece just after it has come off the pillow you will see a lot of ripples and raised points, such as spider centres, that add texture. Turn it over and look at the flattened side that was against the pillow and you will see the reason for this. Having the centres of spiders rising in a small cone it a sign of good tension. However, it is all a question of preference and if you prefer your flat - by all means make them that way. Don't feel you have to make them one way or the other, it's your lace, make it your way. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spiders
Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter. I do the row of pinholes surrounding the spider (including the bottom-center one), then stop, pull the pin, and carefully tension everyone. Working downward from the mid-line, I tension both sides at the same time, watching the bump on the spider's body. Sometimes I do them all a second time, if the first time wasn't enough. I'd rather err on the side of not-enough pulling, and have to repeat, than to pull too much and distort it. Robin P. Los Angeles, Califonria, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders
Hi All I am now well into my christmas card making and was just working on one with spiders when this question came to mind. When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter. I just tried it on the last one and it seems squashed rather than tidy, or should I just leave the pin I and do it that way. Thanks Wendy St Dogmaels _ Win New York holidays with Kelloggs Live Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When making spiders or any other stitch that needs a pin to hold the position when do I know when to take the pin out to make it flatter. If working a spider surrounded by ground stitches, then I always use the centre pin to work the bottom (last) ground stitch, then tension the pairs carefully. Remember to tension at the half way stage (before you put the centre pair in) as well. Some spiders have more than one pin in the centre, these can be left in. If your spider is surrounded by trails, or worked in spider ground, then it is a case of deciding when you have done sufficient to support the legs coming out of the spider, but not gone too far so that you cannot work out which pairs to tension. Always tension two legs together - one on one side, and the corresponding leg from the other. There is nothing wrong with deciding that you like the effect of the raised centre, with pin hole, that results from leaving the pin in place. The finished lace should be something that when you look at it, *you* are pleased with the effect. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] spiders and roseground
Aurelia mentioned working on Christine Springett's hanky edging of spiders and roseground. If you want to see a photo of it, go to www.lacemakersofillinois.org , click on gallery and go to Jane. cream and yellow edging is the pattern. It was made for a favorite cousin's daughter's wedding in Italy. Jane O'Connor New Lenox, Il USA Currently enjoying Tucson, AZ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders
Robin wrote; By putting a pin at the center, you can tension your pairs around it, which pushes the body stitches upward against the twists of the legs. If this doesn't do the trick, then maybe you're putting too many twists on each leg before reaching the body For plain whole stitch or half stitch spiders, as a general rule I twist the legs the same number of times as there are legs coming in from each side, so for a spider with 2 legs coming in from each side I twist twice, for three from each side twist 3 times and so on. Seems to work. Doesn't apply for spider ground, when I always twist twice, or for other types of spider (such as spider with a hole, haloed spider), when I judge by appearance. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders
although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how to do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided ;-p Tania (Denmark) I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a lot of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look better. I hope that the following will help you. I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the ground immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the ground. That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then the joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything else. Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should then pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider look good and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand pair and the top left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the next pairs down each side until you have done them all. Then I usually go back to the top and start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth it to get a nice spider. Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding pins are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has the effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can sometimes appear around the central pin. Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spiders
Hi Tania, Sue and all spiders, Isn't it amazing that this is exactly how I work my spiders. I wasn't taught this way but just developed the techniques as I did more and more lace. They say great minds think alike :-))) I now teach my students to take the pin out when they have completely enclosed the spider as it gets rid of that volcano in the middle. They are a bit nervious the first time but with a little practice the spiders look so much nicer. Happy spidering, Jenny from wet, wet Wales - Original Message - From: Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: [lace] Spiders although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how to do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided ;-p Tania (Denmark) I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a lot of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look better. I hope that the following will help you. I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the ground immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the ground. That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then the joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything else. Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should then pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider look good and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand pair and the top left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the next pairs down each side until you have done them all. Then I usually go back to the top and start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth it to get a nice spider. Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding pins are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has the effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can sometimes appear around the central pin. Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I was never taught that when making spiders, but I found that someone else in the class was. I rarely work them, as I didn't like the lump in the middle, but recently remembered about taking the centre pin out and have worked at it a bit, I find I am happier to work them and not going out of my way to avoid spiders in my work. It is amazing what a difference this makes. Sue T, Dorset UK Hi Tania, Sue and all spiders, Isn't it amazing that this is exactly how I work my spiders. I wasn't taught this way but just developed the techniques as I did more and more lace. They say great minds think alike :-))) I now teach my students to take the pin out when they have completely enclosed the spider as it gets rid of that volcano in the middle. They are a bit nervious the first time but with a little practice the spiders look so much nicer. Happy spidering, Jenny from wet, wet Wales - Original Message - From: Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: [lace] Spiders although I wish I could afford to take a class to get some tricks on how to do spiders, mine tend to go pear shaped, raindrop shaped or lopsided ;-p Tania (Denmark) I enjoy working spiders and spider ground, and have therefore included a lot of them in my work. Over time I have found ways to make them look better. I hope that the following will help you. I find that it is easier to keep spiders even, if you finish all the ground immediately around them before moving on to any of the rest of the ground. That is, work all the pinholes that their legs go into and then the joining pinhole at the bottom of the diamond before doing anything else. Once you have worked the immediately surrounding pinholes, you should then pull on the pairs making up the spider's legs to make the spider look good and balanced. I find it helps to pull on the top right hand pair and the top left hand pair at the same time as each other, then the next pairs down each side until you have done them all. Then I usually go back to the top and start again. It takes a bit of fiddling, but is worth it to get a nice spider. Sometimes I take out the central pin in the spider once the surrounding pins are in place, but before I do the tweaking of the pairs, as this has the effect of removing the bump in the middle of the spider which can sometimes appear around the central pin. Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spiders
I was always taught to leave in that pin, but the spiders are much nicer when I remove it. Sometimes going against the rules works :) Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders - long
As well as taking out the pin it helps you not have the central 'volcano' (as someone else described it!) if you spread the pairs well to the sides as you pull up the first half of the spider. This gives them room to lie flat. If you pull them all towards you then you are encouraging bunching. As you pull up this first half, do it in stages. I always say to students that It's supposed to look a mess when you first put the pin in :-)Pull each thread gently to not quite as tight as it wants to be, then work across again, tensioning them properly. The reason for this is that is you pull the first few as tight as they'll go you then have more difficulty and stress on the thread to tension the other threads through the tight ones. The bigger the spider, the more important I have found this. Before you start the second half, check that all the legs are properly twisted like a rope, not with one thread straight and the other wound around it - another reason for tensioning in stages. Work the second half of the body and pick up into the ground. Again as someone else said, join in all the legs before you go off to do other things. If one side is ground and the other side the legs are going into cloth stitch, do the ground side first as the cloth stitch holds them really tightly and this is one reason for the body being lop sided. Bigger than three leg spiders tend to stay more even if you pick up a couple of legs on one side, then a couple on the other, rather than all the way down one side first. BTW, also with big spiders you are almost certainly going to need a different number of twists on the legs. The normal three twists on the first leg or two, then perhaps four for a leg or two then maybe five or even six for a really big one. If you look at the oval body shape in a square frame you can see why; the side legs are always longer than the top ones and you need to twist so the legs all look the same 'ply'. Just don't go made and overtwist as you don't want it to end up twisting the lace once the pins are out. Be prepared to experiment and undo on the first one, then write it all down and keep the note with the lace. If you have a lot of problems with lopsided bodies, analyse what you are doing. Is it balanced at the half way stage? If not see the first paragraph and tension out until it is. Take the pin out and spread them back out and start again if need be. Is it always lopsided the same way? Do you always pick up the legs the same side first? If it's the first but not the second then you are perhaps much stronger handed one side (and not necessarily your dominant side, I think sometimes the weaker hand over-compensates); if this is the case then be consciously much more subtle when you are picking up the legs, don't tension them to their final position until they are all picked up into their ground stitch and then do it by stages. If it's yes to both of the above, often all that is needed is for you to remember to pick up the other side first; the strangeness of feel this makes you much more aware of what you are doing. Finally don't forget all the different spiders that there are; any cloth stitch spider can be replaced with a half stitch one, and that eliminates the problems of volcanoes and lopsidedness. Worked exactly the same as a normal spider except using half stitch! Another very pretty replacement for a two legged spider is the star - twist each leg once and counting the pairs as 1,2,3 and 4 from the left, cross the centre thread (L over R!) of pairs 1 and 2, and the centre thread of pairs 3 and 4. Cloth stitch pair two through 3 and 4, then pair 1 through pairs 2 (pin in the centre) and 3 (ie work the first half of a normal spider). Finally half stitch pairs 1 and 2, and 3 and 4. MUCH easier to work that write, so long as you cope with crossing the middle threads - but that's just the first movement of a cloth stitch. Again, can't go lopsided or bunch up. There are lots of variations of spiders with holes and haloes and you can combine half and cloth stitch in the same spider, and you can work spider grounds with or without other grounds between them. So experiment and make your lace original, even if you are using someone else's design. Jacquie in Lincolnshire, where with all the rain we are having Incey Wincey Spider will have been washed will have been washed out of the spout many times today. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] spiders
I have just returned home after a week at my daughters house and my Avon lady has left me the latest catalogue, on page 130 what do I find - a lovely spider brooch, it is silver plated and set with sparkly stones I am ordering it straight away. Happy lacing Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Not advertising, just thought that other spiders might like to get one too. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spiders! What webs have you woven this year?
Hi Spiders! I was lucky enough to have a week off at Christmas and a low-key social calendar. So I finished a couple of long term UFOs. I have been laboring on interpreting a 16th Century Needle Lace pattern in Tatting. This particular pattern was composed of simply the cordonnet in little circles (interpreted as tatted rings) and long arcs, (interpreted as tatted chains). The pictures of the 16th Century NL pattern and my tatted interpretation are available for viewing at eTatters (no membership or login is required, the albums are public) The Tatting: http://www.etatters.com/album_showpage.php?pic_id=462 The color coded picture/diagram: http://www.etatters.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=463 The other thing I have finished (except for the joining) is an edging for the lovely, lavender filled pin cushion from Pauline. I should be able to put done to it tonight. Then I will post it in Webshots and send a copy to Lacefairy. I glitzed it up as much as I could with gold braid and cubic, fire polished red glass beads. Happy New Year! Patty Dowden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: lace spiders
there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of Torchon Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as well as10 patterns for edgings. Usual disclaimers - more info here: http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html I'm glad to see she's republished it :( Yet it is a very nice and useful booklet. Julie also self-published a booklet A Study on Torchon Grounds. It too is out of print but some of us who know Julie are encouraging her to reprint it also. But she is very busy with 'family matters' right now. Let's all keep our fingers crossed. Lorri - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace spiders
Hi Mary and all Just a note - visually they are spiders, technically they are crossings - the lesson 4 in the TWB gives 4 methods of crossing 6 pairs. If you find you actually do like spiders - the bobbin lace variety! - there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of Torchon Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as well as 10 patterns for edgings. Usual disclaimers - more info here: http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace spiders
On Apr 25, 2004, at 19:28, Bev Walker wrote: If you find you actually do like spiders - the bobbin lace variety! - there is a great booklet published by Julie Hendrick, A Study of Torchon Spiders with oodles of 4, 6, 8 and 10 pair spiders/crossings as well as 10 patterns for edgings. Usual disclaimers - more info here: http://members.aol.com/catchpin/home.html I'm glad to see she's republished it and -- apparently -- expanded it as well (it now seems to have 12 patterns instead of 10, according to the website listing). When I got it a couple of years ago (one copy for me and one, I think, for Sulochona?), I was told that was it, and she had no plans for doing it again... :( Yet it is a very nice and useful booklet. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi everyone I love the idea of untwisted spider legs. I have a few here and there in my samples. If I notice too long after the fact, I go 'tsk' and carry on - it is my tribute to being handmade - if you deliberately leave them untwisted - by accident then design, or purely by design, some might say they look untidy (those who are expecting to see twists), but yes, a new bobbin lace stitch - what shall we call it? The untwisted spider crossing, with variations? bye for now, Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) where we got the promised snow and now we're waiting for the promised melt -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~wt912 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] spiders
Someone once told me that a mistake is a pattern, or something along that line. Interesting thought, and I never forgot it. Last week I was making yet another bookmark, and accidentally forgot to twist the legs of the first spider. Rather than take it out (the work of a whole minute and a half!), I played with the bottom legs of the spider, and managed to make them look like the top. A bit hard to keep the lower body of the spider taut, but I rather liked the effect. Enough so that I deliberately made the third (and last) spider the same way. And out of a mistake, made a pattern. Anyone else done something similar? Are there patterns that call for untwisted legs? Rose-Marie in very cold and windy Abbotsford Canada, where the weather is thankfully due to change with the change of the moon on Wednesday. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] spiders
Yes, I'll put my hands up for that! I was making a large circular edging (Bucks) when I realised that I'd missed some nuance of the pattern repeat. I quickly counted how many pattern repeats there were round the circle, and decided that, if I repeated my mistake every third repeat, it'd look like part of the pattern. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Haddad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone once told me that a mistake is a pattern, or something along that line. Interesting thought, and I never forgot it. Last week I was making yet another bookmark, and accidentally forgot to twist the legs of the first spider. Rather than take it out (the work of a whole minute and a half!), I played with the bottom legs of the spider, and managed to make them look like the top. A bit hard to keep the lower body of the spider taut, but I rather liked the effect. Enough so that I deliberately made the third (and last) spider the same way. And out of a mistake, made a pattern. http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] spiders
Ok ya'll, If I can ever get to the point of making something big enough that has repeats I will be exstatic. :) Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Clarksburg, WV where it has turned cold and nasty, the high for tomorrow will be a whopping 28b. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] spiders
Lynn, you *will* get there, I can assure you!! You'll even get to the stage where you can listen to the television (I maintain that any craftsperson only listens, not watches television!) whilst you make lace! Now *that* was something I never thought I'd master! Just keep practicing! Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok ya'll, If I can ever get to the point of making something big enough that has repeats I will be exstatic. :) Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Clarksburg, WV where it has turned cold and nasty, the high for tomorrow will be a whopping 28b. http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] spiders
This reminds me of advice I used to get from music teachers... when performing, if you make a mistake, then make it consistently and most people will never hear it. Clay - Original Message - From: Haddad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone once told me that a mistake is a pattern, or something along that line. Interesting thought, and I never forgot it. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]