[lace] Springett's Designing Mounting Lace Fans 2012 Revised Edition

2012-09-22 Thread Jeriames
There have been letters on Arachne from lacemakers very  interested in 
Designing  Mounting Lace Fans by Christine Springett  (U.K.).  It was a 
small 
16-page booklet, published in 1985, and long  out-of-print.  People were 
paying large sums for used copies.
 
I've just received from Holly Van Sciver (in the U.S.) the  new revised 
2012 copy of this useful book ($15).  It is now 48 pages,  4 in full color.
There is a Index listing the following  chapters:
 
Glossary of Terms, Introduction, Drawing a Pleating Plan, Planning  
Considerations, Design Considerations, Working Considerations, Mounting a Lace  
Leaf, Preparing the Fansticks, Glue, Pleating a Lace Leaf, Gluing a Lace Leaf  
onto Fansticks, Making a Fabric Backing for a Lace Leaf, Mounting a  
Fabric-Backed Lace Leaf, Storage  Display, Supplies.
 
If you make fans, I think this will be a welcome addition to your lace  
library.
 
Select Lacemaking Books at the left column on the web site  below:
 
_www.cdspringett.co.uk_ (http://www.cdspringett.co.uk) 
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center

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Re: [lace] Fans

2011-01-13 Thread Bridget Marrow
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 Linda wrote:
Does anyone know of any images on-line of antique lace fans? It would
be interesting to see if there differences in their design.

This website
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/exhibition.asp?exhibition=FANS

shows fans from an exhibition  Unfolding Pictures: Fans in the Royal
Collection (2005), which had a number of lovely lace fans belonging to the
Queen.  You have to pick them out, there are a lot of other fans as well, and
some that look like lace from the thumbnail turn out not to be - one of the
earliest, c 1600, looked like lace, but turns out to be cut leather!  As it
seems to be imitating lace, maybe actual lace fans were around at the time.
There's lots of detailed information about each fan, so it's well worth
studying.

Sorry this is a bit late, I'm only just catching up on digests.
Happy 2011 to everyone.

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[lace] Fans

2011-01-13 Thread Jean Nathan

Bridget wrote:

Does anyone know of any images on-line of antique lace fans? It would
be interesting to see if there differences in their design.

Putantique lace fans in the google search box, click on the arrow 
next to 'Search' (not the blue arrow next to the search words box) and 
select  Google images.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Fans

2011-01-01 Thread Jean Nathan

Alex wrote:

If you are thinking of making a fan check that you have fan sticks of a 
suitable size first. It is easy to adjust the size of the pattern, but it is 
not easy to find sticks to fit a fan leaf.


Having made a few fans, I totally disagree with that. You need the pattern 
first and then find sticks to fit.


If a leaf is too small around the outer edge and you enlarge it so that the 
outer curve fits, the inner one won't, and vice versa. The same happens in 
reverse if you try to make the leaf smaller. It's not the same as enlarging 
or reducing, for example, an edging or a mat. I'm sure someone cleverer than 
me can show the maths involved. Unless you're confident of redrawing the 
pricking to fit, I'd leave it alone.


Fan sticks aren't difficult to get nowadays - suppliers seem to have 
realised that most lacemakers want to make at least one fan. The obvious 
source is the faux tortoiseshell or cream coloured Spanish souvenir fans, 
but there are VERY few patterns to fit these. Stripping an old wrecked fan 
is another possibility, but you'd probably have difficulty finding a leaf to 
fit.


SMP sell some complete kits and some sticks alone:

http://www.smplace.co.uk/sfr_cat.htm


Kleinhout sells sticks that will fit any size of fan, unless you're really 
ambitious and you want to make a giant one. They are 60 cm long and either 
you or they cut them to the length required. You can choose the number of 
stick you want in your skeleton from 8 to 20, and whether you want straight 
or wavy sticks. You can paint them.


http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/


Stuart Johnson makes three sizes of fan sticks and sells the patterns to go 
with them - can't find his details.



I've got one set with spider and sparkles made by Matthew Hester.


I'm sure there are others that I've forgotten that others will remember.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Fans

2011-01-01 Thread J-D Hammett
Stuart Johnson's email is stuart.john...@homecall.co.ukHe has no we-site 
at present but he is always very helpful. I am sure he'd email or send a 
catalogue.


Joepie

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Nathan

Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:06 AM
To: Lace
Subject: [lace] Fans

Alex wrote:

If you are thinking of making a fan check that you have fan sticks of a
suitable size first. It is easy to adjust the size of the pattern, but it is
not easy to find sticks to fit a fan leaf.

Having made a few fans, I totally disagree with that. You need the pattern
first and then find sticks to fit.

If a leaf is too small around the outer edge and you enlarge it so that the
outer curve fits, the inner one won't, and vice versa. The same happens in
reverse if you try to make the leaf smaller. It's not the same as enlarging
or reducing, for example, an edging or a mat. I'm sure someone cleverer than
me can show the maths involved. Unless you're confident of redrawing the
pricking to fit, I'd leave it alone.

Fan sticks aren't difficult to get nowadays - suppliers seem to have
realised that most lacemakers want to make at least one fan. The obvious
source is the faux tortoiseshell or cream coloured Spanish souvenir fans,
but there are VERY few patterns to fit these. Stripping an old wrecked fan
is another possibility, but you'd probably have difficulty finding a leaf to
fit.

SMP sell some complete kits and some sticks alone:

http://www.smplace.co.uk/sfr_cat.htm


Kleinhout sells sticks that will fit any size of fan, unless you're really
ambitious and you want to make a giant one. They are 60 cm long and either
you or they cut them to the length required. You can choose the number of
stick you want in your skeleton from 8 to 20, and whether you want straight
or wavy sticks. You can paint them.

http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/


Stuart Johnson makes three sizes of fan sticks and sells the patterns to go
with them - can't find his details.


I've got one set with spider and sparkles made by Matthew Hester.


I'm sure there are others that I've forgotten that others will remember.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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RE: [lace] Fans

2011-01-01 Thread Sue
Jean, thanks for the link to Kleinhout  because I have now found out where I
can buy the lovely wooden Christmas frames for cards that another Arachne
member commented on recently.

 

Also the latest details that I have for Stuart Johnson (was ok in July when
I purchased fan sticks) is:- stuart.john...@homecall.co.uk   I also have his
telephone no if needed.

By the way I scanned my lace fan and sent to Stuart and he made sticks to
fit.

 

Sue M Harvey

Norfolk Uk

 

I would also like to wish all members a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year

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Re: [lace] Fans -Beds

2011-01-01 Thread lacelady
Use common sense when choosing a pattern.  I have a lovely Beds fan from Louise 
Colgan's fan book that folds and unfolds just fine.  

Decide whether you want the fan spread out for display, or folded.  Once it's 
folded, it will have the folds in it's lace memory.  I have mine folded because 
it's much easier to store it, and I didn't have a good place to display a 
framed fan.  The first folding needs to be done carefully, and one stick at a 
time.

In the USA, John Aebi in Indiana makes fan sticks.  His short fan sticks fit 
the fans in Colgan's book.

One time I bought a set of pretty fan sticks on eBay.  When they arrived, they 
were about 15 inches tall.  Huge.  It was then I realized that there had been 
no size mentioned.  My mind had 'seen' them as smaller when I looked at the 
pictures.  I think the very large fans were the fashion at one point in 
history.  Modern fans I've seen have been smaller.

Alice in Oregon ... where we have a dry but very cold New Year's Day.  Our high 
today is near the freezing point.  I greeted the New Year making lace and 
toasting it with a glass of wine.


- Original Message -
From: Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net

 My no 8 perle gimps are not a
problem, but if you want it to fold the fan rather than display it open then
avoid the types of lace that have large holes, e.g. Beds, as these will stop
the fabic of the lace from folding properly.

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[lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton
A few days ago, Lorelei sent the message, (below), giving a link to some 
pictures of a beautiful album of lace pieces - and thank you, Lorelei, 
for such a delightful gift.


As it happens, I've never before paid any attention to lace fans, so it 
came as a surprise to me to see the several fans there.  It had never 
before occurred to me that the fan sticks were simply a way to display a 
piece of lace of a particular shape.  That's because I'd always thought 
of fans as meant to be useful as well as decorative.  All the ones I 
have myself are simple souvenirs, and more useful than otherwise.  They 
are not lace but paper, (or some such, I think), and I keep one in my 
handbag in hot weather.


So I wondered, is it possible for a lace fan to be useful too? 
Especially, could it fold and unfold - lace is thicker than paper and 
might not go tightly around the corners of the sticks.  Would folding 
damage the lace?  Were lace fans ever made that were intended to be 
opened and closed in use?


Linda Walton,
(in dark, damp High Wycombe, Buskinghamshire, U.K., but where it's 
warmer than of late, the snow is almost all thawed, and the fog has gone 
- can Spring be far behind?  I wish A Happy New Year, full of 
interesting possibilities, to everyone).


On 26/12/2010 23:53, Lorelei Halley wrote:

Here is areally nice Milanese fan.  The same lacemaker has a lot of nice
pieces in the same album.
http://picasaweb.google.com/samag5180/MisTrabajos03#5359529389873792754


For all our arachneans I wish a new year full of long, bright lacemaking days,
and may your threads never break.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread lbuyred
Linda,
I have two very inexpensive fans with machine made lace on them.  They both 
fold and unfold very smoothly and easily.  In fact they both have much smoother 
actions than some of the paper fans that I have.  Both were purchased for me by 
friends on trips to Mexico.  I should probably also mention that they were 
purchased in the 1970's.
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA
 Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: 
So I wondered, is it possible for a lace fan to be useful too? 
 Especially, could it fold and unfold.

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RE: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Sue
If you go to the fan museum in Greenwich London when they are displaying the
lace fans (you will have to check with them as they are not always on
display) you will see plenty of lovely lace fans that were actually made to
be used. Unlike mine that sit in tissue paper in a box.  I highly recommend
this museum at any time but when the lace fans are out it is spectacular.

 

 

Sue M Harvey

Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Ilske Thomsen
How right you are, Sue.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton

On 31/12/2010 10:26, laura forrester wrote:
[snip]

John Beswick of Torchon House makes beautiful fan sticks using the lace
(or scan thereof) as a pattern. He always asks if you want your fan to
fold or remain open for display, and will work out the fold pattern from
your lace scan. He also incorporates the lace design into the sticks
where possible.

[snip]

Thank you very much for writing, Laura.  I'm most interested to see that 
the fold pattern is not necessarily part of the original design, but can 
be worked out later.  I suppose that it must be partly to do with how 
many sticks would look best with the pattern, or perhaps how many would 
be needed to support the lace properly.


But is that where possible the give-away?  Are fan patterns created 
sometimes with the intention that they should fold and sometimes that 
they should not?  And, if a pattern is designed so that it could be 
folded, is it part of the idea that it should look good with folds, or 
that it should fold completely and be used?  Of course, I imagine that 
all these are possible!  So how would you know, when choosing, which one 
you were going to get?  Is there some way to tell, if the pattern does 
not come with a description?


With best wishes,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton

On 31/12/2010 15:03, lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Linda,
I have two very inexpensive fans with machine made lace on them.  They both 
fold and unfold very smoothly and easily.  In fact they both have much smoother 
actions than some of the paper fans that I have.  Both were purchased for me by 
friends on trips to Mexico.  I should probably also mention that they were 
purchased in the 1970's.
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA
 Linda Waltonlinda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com  wrote:
So I wondered, is it possible for a lace fan to be useful too?

Especially, could it fold and unfold.


Thank you very much for writing, Liz.  It is most interesting that the 
lace fans should operate better than paper fans, and that they should 
have done so over a long working life.  I did not know that this was 
possible.  In fact, (if I'd given any thought to it), I'd have imagined 
that the lace would be too delicate to stand up to so much.


With best wishes,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton

On 31/12/2010 15:25, Sue wrote:

If you go to the fan museum in Greenwich London when they are displaying
the lace fans (you will have to check with them as they are not always
on display) you will see plenty of lovely lace fans that were actually
made to be used. Unlike mine that sit in tissue paper in a box. I highly
recommend this museum at any time but when the lace fans are out it is
spectacular.


Thank you very much for writing, Sue.  I would like to see this museum: 
 I love lace and I love visiting museums, so this is a winner!


But I don't find it so easy to get out these days, so I 'googled' to 
find the museum's website:

http://www.fan-museum.org/
I looked at some of the pages quickly, (and I will certainly spend some 
time reading the information), but I couldn't see any images of early 
fans made with lace.

Although I must admit that the painted ones are very beautiful indeed.

Does anyone know of any images on-line of antique lace fans?  It would 
be interesting to see if there differences in their design.


With best wishes,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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[lace] Lace fans

2010-12-31 Thread J-D Hammett
Hi,

Now and again there are good antique lace fans on eBay. Have the occasional
look. A while ago I was fortunate enough to bid for and win a lovely Duchesse
lace fan on mother-of-pearl sticks, but some go for silly prices. Some traders
frequently have fans including lace ones.

Prosperous New Year to all
Joepie, East Sussex

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton

On 31/12/2010 15:32, Ilske Thomsen wrote:
[snip]

Hello Ilske, and thank you very much for writing.



since more than 300 years exist lace-fans, bobbin- as well as needle-lace,

 all folded correctly.

I had not realised that fans could be so old; I imagined that they were 
a fashion of the mid-Victorian period.  (At least, the western - 
Spanish? - type of fan, rather than the eastern - Chinese? Japanese? - 
type.  If these were actually different, that is.)



 Have you never seen a
 lace-fan in origin how fine, for example, the Chantilly-lace is?

No, sadly I've never seen any real lace fans, and had not even paid 
attention to photographs, until I saw those in the album shown in the 
link that Lorelei sent:

http://picasaweb.google.com/samag5180/MisTrabajos03#5359529389873792754


 Why do you get the impression it wouldn't do?

A good question . . .  It's probably something to do with the kind of 
lace I make myself.  My Bucks lace is made with linen thread, which is 
relatively thick and stiff, giving a lovely crisp lace, but which might 
be hard to fold, hard to fit between the sticks, and hard to unfold, 
(especially with that sudden snap which is one of the joys of being able 
to express yourself by your use of a fan).  It also has gimps which I 
thought might suffer by being compressed when folded, pulled out of 
shape where they went over the sticks, and frayed by opening and closing 
the fan.
Perhaps you could write about your experience with other kinds of lace 
and types of thread?




If you have the chance to come to Germany in summertime try to visit Munich.
Regretably, I think that it is very unlikely that I would ever be able 
to visit Munich again.  These days, I find it hard to get so far as the 
local shops and the library, without a lot of help.

There will be a fan exhibition and I am sure with lace-fans too
This museum has wonderful ones.
And I regret even more that I did not take the opportunity to see the 
museum when I was there - but it was a long time ago, before I knew 
anything at all about making lace.  Does it have a website?

Or visit me and I'll show you mine.

Thank you for your kind invitation - I wish that I could!


With best wishes,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2010-12-31 Thread Linda Walton

On 31/12/2010 19:19, J-D Hammett wrote:
[snip]

Thank you for this suggestion:-

Now and again there are good antique lace fans on eBay.

[snip]
That's a very good idea!  I'll see if I can work out how the eBay site 
works and search for fans - I'd love to see them.


With best wishes,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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[lace] Lace Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Happy New Year  to everyone.

Christine Springett's fan patterns come with a pattern for pleating the
completed lace fan leaf, and her great little book on making fans  give the
instructions on how to do the pleating.

However, I think it is Ann Collier who does not pleat her fan leaves, but
lets them form the pleats naturally

Liz still on holiday, where it is a bit cooler today, - thankfully.  The 36C
yesterday was a bit too warm - especially when it did not cool down very
much overnight.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Jeriames
Dear Linda,
 
You wrote from England, and I will reply from that perspective.
 
Of course, lace fans were to be used.  Fans of any type were  welcome 
accessories before air conditioning was invented.  Before the 20th  C. they 
were 
often presented in beautiful oblong fan boxes.  The fans were  closed, when 
presented.  Today's fans sometimes have features that  make it necessary to 
present them in an open position.  Today's fans tend  to be displays of a 
lacemaker's skills, and often are made as contest  entries.
 
An example would the be the fan featured on the cover of The Lace  Guild's 
(U.K.) July 2010 (#139) bulletin/magazine.  The story of the  making of this 
fan, with 3-D butterflies, is in the October 2010 (#140)  issue.  I am 
singling out this organization, because you wrote from  England.  Perhaps you 
know a local group of lacesmakers, and one of them  can show you these.  This 
year, I have seen fans within issues of torchon,  knitted, needlelace, 
Bucks, and other laces.
 
There are a number of lace books devoted just to fans.  There are many  
other books that feature fans in general, and lace is nearly always  included 
as a medium.  Fans worthy of being preserved may date back at  least 4 
centuries, but a lace one may not have survived that long.  You can  see them 
in 
portraits, which have usually been researched and given a date when  the 
painting was made.
 
To read a couple Arachne book reviews, go to 
_http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html_ 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html)  
and search Fans in the Royal Collection and Fans from the Royal House of 
 Orange-Nassau.  Both collections have lace fans of the best quality.
 
In 2006, Liz Pass told us the Royal Collection fans can be seen at 
_http://tinyurl.com/h8r78_ (http://tinyurl.com/h8r78) 
The address still worksl  Lace fans are not always identified as lace,  but 
you can enlarge them to see.
 
The Royal House of Orange-Nassau refers to The Netherlands.  I  found this 
book while on a OIDFA lace tour in 2008.  You will note that it  was written 
by Helene Alexander, founder of The Fan Museum in London.   It may still be 
available for purchase.
 
We have also written on Arachne about Inter-Library book loans, which  
exist in many countries, including yours.  This means you can go to a  public 
or 
university library and borrow books that they may have to borrow  from the 
nearest library that has a copy of the book.  If the book is very  rare, 
they may ask that you read it in the library.  Otherwise, normal  borrowing 
policies apply.  This service is necessary for scholars.   You are a lace 
scholar, so don't feel you cannot use this resource.
 
Also, I recommend the many art collections in museums and house/palace  
museums throughout the UK.  Nearly all collections have portraits  containing 
lace.  Some painters put fans in the hands of the queens and  princesses, 
etc.  They are sometimes closed, and sometimes open.  Look  at art, and you 
will learn a lot about lace history.
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 12/31/2010 3:00:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com writes:

As it  happens, I've never before paid any attention to lace fans, so it 
came as  a surprise to me to see the several fans there.  It had never 
before  occurred to me that the fan sticks were simply a way to display a 
piece of  lace of a particular shape.  That's because I'd always thought 
of  fans as meant to be useful as well as decorative.  All the ones I  
have myself are simple souvenirs, and more useful than otherwise.   They 
are not lace but paper, (or some such, I think), and I keep one in my  
handbag in hot weather.

So I wondered, is it possible for a lace  fan to be useful too? 
Especially, could it fold and unfold - lace is  thicker than paper and 
might not go tightly around the corners of the  sticks.  Would folding 
damage the lace?  Were lace fans ever  made that were intended to be 
opened and closed in  use?

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[lace] Fans

2010-12-31 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

Lace fans made in the 19th century would have been made so they would fold. I
was given a pricking of a beautiful Bucks fan leaf (the the piece of
semi-circular lace, fabric or paper that is attached to the sticks) and made
it in 50 DMC Retors d'Alsace thread. It is sewn to the sticks and folds and
unfolds without a problem, including opening and closing with one hand.

If you are thinking of making a fan check that you have fan sticks of a
suitable size first. It is easy to adjust the size of the pattern, but it is
not easy to find sticks to fit a fan leaf.  My no 8 perle gimps are not a
problem, but if you want it to fold the fan rather than display it open then
avoid the types of lace that have large holes, e.g. Beds, as these will stop
the fabic of the lace from folding properly. If you are making it in sprig
lace, e.g. Honiton, it needs to be grounded so that it will fold properly.

When you are ready to mount a fan leaf on the sticks there is an excellent
booklet by Christine Springett called 'Designing and Mounting Lace Fans'.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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[lace] Lace fans

2010-09-25 Thread Jean Nathan

I've just uploaded a couple of images to my album on Arachne webshots.

The first is Louise Colgan's Bedfordshire fan from her book of fans. I 
decided to change the honeycomb ground section to blossom ground because I 
preferred it. I made in burgundy Madeira Tanne 40. I like my lace to be 
fairly dense.


The second shows different types of fan that I described in an earlier post 
which could lend themselves to designs of lace fan other than the familiar 
semi-circular leaf.


In case anyone's still not sure what a brise fan is, the top half shows a 
diagrammatic representation of one. The individual leaves could be various 
shapes, the important thing being that the lower part of the leaf is narrow; 
the top could be almost any width - something a bit like an oak leaf which 
is wide at the top than the bottom is one idea - and the number and widths 
of leaves can be varied.


The bottom part is a fan that I own made of ovals of crepe paper stuck on 
the top part of each stick. There's a fine thread stitched through the 
bottom layers and around the backs of the sticks to stop it opening too far. 
The crepe paper could be replaced with lace ovals, squares or other shapes.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Fans

2010-09-24 Thread Jean Nathan
Having done my best to describe a brise fan (a bit like slices of a cake), 
another idea would be to put odd bits of lace (matching or using different 
samples) separately on the top part of a fan skeleton with thin plain 
sticks, and then running an invisible thread through the tops to secure them 
so they only opening a set amount rather than being able to flop about 
without control. Feather fans and those made from cut and painted crepe 
paper shapes are made that way.


We lacemakers always seem to think of a lace fan as having to be a 
semi-circle of lace mounted on a skeleton.


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[lace] fans

2010-09-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Thanks for telling us about brise fans.  I went and googled it.  Amazing.  the
pierced work in ivory and horn were amazing.
Lorelei

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[lace] Lace Fans

2010-02-04 Thread Jean Nathan

Fan sticks in various sizes also available from SMP Lace:

http://www.smplace.co.uk/sfr_cat.htm

and also Kleinhout in the Netherlands:

http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Fans and Fan Leaves - was We did it

2009-06-27 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lace Fan Lovers,
 
May I recommend The Fan Museum in London?  Founding genius is a  woman.
 
_http://www.fan-museum.org/_ (http://www.fan-museum.org/) 
 
The current exhibition, Director's Choice, is said to include some lace  
fans.
 
A favorite memory of London is visiting this museum in Greenwich, and it is 
 a great place to learn about current fan books that are available.   
Christine Springett's book is not offered from their gift shop, however.   
Museum 
offers fan conservation services..
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  



**Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the 
grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005)

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RE: [lace] Fans

2007-07-31 Thread Karen
Please can we have more details of John Beswick's bobbin-winder.
I have a bobbin winder of the locally produced type and I find that it does
not hold all types of bobbins correctly. So, you guessed, I need another one
that will hold all kinds of bobbins properly. At present I am winding
bobbins manually and because I have problems with my thumbs - it can get
really painful for me.
Thanks,
Karen in Malta. 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:42 AM
To: Sue Babbs
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Fans

Here I go, de-lurking again ---

On 31/07/2007, at 12:45 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:

 I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and  patterns to fit 
 those sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and 
 fansticks?
 Sue

Bobbin-maker and genius-gadgeteer John Beswick, here in Australia, will make
sets of fan-sticks for you, customized (within limits).  You need to send
him the fan-leaf size/dimensions that you intend to make -- he suggested to
me that I send him a paper version of the intended fan-leaf, so he knows
exactly how to make the set of sticks so it fits. 
  I'm still deciding how I want to use a set of perspex(Plexiglass)
fan-sticks, but I haven't designed the fan-leaf yet, so I haven't actually
ordered from him.  John is the designer of the take-apart pocket
bobbin-winder, among other inventions.

It's very handy to have a set of sticks made for you if you're designing
your own leaf, especially if you want a fontange or ballon shape, or
asymmetrical, or a novelty shape across the top.  
Historically, although folding fans that open to the shape of
a-section-of-a-circle have been the hands-down favorites, folding fans have
been made in a huge variety of shapes.

I have also been cruising eBay for ratty old fans, or plain old ugly fans
(yeah, they happened, and were often enough considered so even in their time
of origin), which historians would not think it necessary to preserve.
Very, very occasionally there will come up for auction a set of sticks which
has already been stripped of it's leaf, or a set that never had a leaf.

My most recent such purchase is a fan that has a bronze-colored silk leaf
hand-painted with gorgeous tiny songbirds in shades of blue and brown.  The
silk has shattered beyond repair in several places, but the little paintings
are largely intact.  When I have a suitable shadow-box frame ready, I will
be carefully removing the fan-leaf and mounting it, flat and archivally, in
the shadowbox in a way that minimizes the look of damage.  The sticks are a
darkish wood, cut in a classic serpentine style (wavy along the whole
length, each stick and the guards), and natural finish with no paint,
gilding, or pique work.

It doesn't help you find a matched set of sticks-with-a-lace-pattern, but if
you *do* want to try eBay for some fan-sticks, search with a group of words
-- hand fan eventail facher ventaglio abanico -- to get listings from any
number of European and South American ebay members, as well as North
American.  You'll probably get lots of rock-star posters, modern Chinese
Battenberg fans, sometimes whole-salers selling bulk lots of cheap
souvenir-type fans, but putting antique in the search only limits the
English-language search.

Prices have been steadily rising on ebay, but if you are patient, you can
still get sets of bone, ivory, or fine wood sticks for US $20-$50, intact
and in useable condition.  Tortoise-shell rarely goes for less than $60, and
then only if the fan is terrible and/or the sticks are damaged, broken, or
parts-missing. If you are buying internationally, be aware of
endangered-species-product laws, and make sure your seller labels your
package properly, especially as to *age.*

Read descriptions carefully, especially if the seller deals in a large
variety of antiques or collectibles -- they often don't know how to describe
fans adequately, or else they underestimate or overestimate the difficulty
of repairing the sticks for use.  Many non-specialists just assume that
anyone who buys a fan intends it only for framing.

The seller betsycrnfa specializes in antique fans, nearly all are very
nice keepers, but if you call up her listings, you'll usually get several
links to fans listed by other sellers.  The seller eastayton, who
specializes in fine antique laces, also sells fans and lace fans, and you
can use her listings the same way.

Does this help any?

Beth Schoenberg
--- formerly of New Jersey, USA, now in Canberra, Australia -- where it's
COLD!

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RE: [lace] Fans

2007-07-31 Thread clayblackwell
Hi Karen -

I'm sorry to hear that your thumbs are causing you problems!  

I have one of John Beswick's winders, and it is a clever gadget.  But...  
before I go in to any report on its abilities (or not) to wind all bobbins, it 
would probably be better to hear from you what bobbins you are having to wind 
the most these days, and we can give you our collective wisdom on which winders 
would be best for you.  Having said that (as I re-read my response...), I've 
gone on to tell all...

Over the years, I've realized that I must have had either a fascination for or 
a frustration with winders in the early years!  Not only did I have the black 
(plastic?)  (Newnam?) winder that is reasonably priced, and a practically free 
reproduction of a very early winder, but I also managed to buy previously 
used winders which are extremely well made and work surpurbly...  on some 
bobbins (and are very expensive when bought new).  I have a worm-gear German 
winder that is my favorite for winding Binche bobbins,because it can load a lot 
of thread in a short time, and is gentle to the bobbins.  I also have a lovely 
Swedish winder with its gears hidden within the housing and the part which 
holds the bobbin made of wood.  This is a wonderful winder for bigger 
continentals (but is too big for Binch, unfortunately, because it is quieter 
and has a smoother action than the German winder).  Neither of these work for 
spangled bobbins, which I use so seldom, that when I do, it is
  a gre
at production of choosing the loveliest that I have and winding them by hand so 
as not to damage the decorations.  

The main attraction to the Beswick winder, for me, was the engineering that 
went in to the little thing!  It is not only small, but comes apart into three 
pieces (no screws or clamps required to assemble!), and the parts fit snugly 
together in their own little storage bag.  The handle even folds up into one of 
the sections!  The winder was designed primarily for spangled bobbins, but he 
quickly filled the need for an attachment that made it work with continentals 
as well.  And...  it can be oriented to work for either right-handed or 
left-handed workers.  The one drawback is that the handle is very small, is 
geared to the bobbin by a rubber band, and one turn of the handle is equal to 
little more than one turn of the bobbin.  So it does not save much effort, 
although it does not require quite as much repetitive motion in the thumb as 
manual winding would.  I've taken my winder with me when I traveled (and 
actually used it!) and the only system I've ever seen that impressed 
 me mor
e (with regard to ingenuity) was the elegantly simple one discussed some time 
back where the bobbin is wound by a pulley system made of the very thread it 
is winding.  That's a trick I hope to learn one of these days...  and it has 
been around for centuries!  I've watched it done, made a video of the 
demonstration, watched that, downloaded instructions and printed them...  and 
have not translated that to being able to do it myself!!  (It has not been a 
priority...  bottom line...)

So my recommendations, in order of cost effectiveness, would be to scout out 
the last trick I mentioned, or to find the winder (from my list above and from 
those others send you) for the type bobbin you use most.

Good Luck!!

Clay
--
Clay Blackwell 
Lynchburg, VA USA 


-- Original message -- 
From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Please can we have more details of John Beswick's bobbin-winder. 
 I have a bobbin winder of the locally produced type and I find that it does 
 not hold all types of bobbins correctly. So, you guessed, I need another one 
 that will hold all kinds of bobbins properly. At present I am winding 
 bobbins manually and because I have problems with my thumbs - it can get 
 really painful for me. 
 Thanks, 
 Karen in Malta. 
 

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RE: [lace] Fans

2007-07-31 Thread Karen
I mostly use antique Maltese turned bobbins which are elaborate continentals
varying from 4 inches to about 5 and a half inches in length. The turning is
very rarely identical on these bobbins. I am also using Italian and Czech
bobbins. I use the spangled bobbins only for miniature work, although I had
originally bought them for a short Bucks course last year but have not felt
that I have mastered it enough to work anything worthwhile. Probably I will
not be working with them often and can wind these by hand.
I want to 'save' my thumbs for making lace rather than winding the bobbins!
As for the thread method, I do know about it but have not seemed to be able
to co-ordinate my movements enough to make it work.
Karen in Malta

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To: Karen; 'Beth Schoenberg'; 'Sue Babbs'
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: RE: [lace] Fans

Hi Karen -
 
I'm sorry to hear that your thumbs are causing you problems!  
 
I have one of John Beswick's winders, and it is a clever gadget.  But...
before I go in to any report on its abilities (or not) to wind all bobbins,
it would probably be better to hear from you what bobbins you are having to
wind the most these days, and we can give you our collective wisdom on which
winders would be best for you.  Having said that (as I re-read my
response...), I've gone on to tell all...
 
Over the years, I've realized that I must have had either a fascination for
or a frustration with winders in the early years!  Not only did I have the
black (plastic?)  (Newnam?) winder that is reasonably priced, and a
practically free reproduction of a very early winder, but I also managed
to buy previously used winders which are extremely well made and work
surpurbly...  on some bobbins (and are very expensive when bought new).  I
have a worm-gear German winder that is my favorite for winding Binche
bobbins,because it can load a lot of thread in a short time, and is gentle
to the bobbins.  I also have a lovely Swedish winder with its gears hidden
within the housing and the part which holds the bobbin made of wood.  This
is a wonderful winder for bigger continentals (but is too big for Binch,
unfortunately, because it is quieter and has a smoother action than the
German winder).  Neither of these work for spangled bobbins, which I use so
seldom, that when I do, it is a great production of choosing the loveliest
that I have and winding them by hand so as not to damage the decorations.  
 
The main attraction to the Beswick winder, for me, was the engineering that
went in to the little thing!  It is not only small, but comes apart into
three pieces (no screws or clamps required to assemble!), and the parts fit
snugly together in their own little storage bag.  The handle even folds up
into one of the sections!  The winder was designed primarily for spangled
bobbins, but he quickly filled the need for an attachment that made it work
with continentals as well.  And...  it can be oriented to work for either
right-handed or left-handed workers.  The one drawback is that the handle is
very small, is geared to the bobbin by a rubber band, and one turn of the
handle is equal to little more than one turn of the bobbin.  So it does not
save much effort, although it does not require quite as much repetitive
motion in the thumb as manual winding would.  I've taken my winder with me
when I traveled (and actually used i t!) and the only system I've ever seen
that impressed me more (with regard to ingenuity) was the elegantly simple
one discussed some time back where the bobbin is wound by a pulley system
made of the very thread it is winding.  That's a trick I hope to learn one
of these days...  and it has been around for centuries!  I've watched it
done, made a video of the demonstration, watched that, downloaded
instructions and printed them...  and have not translated that to being able
to do it myself!!  (It has not been a priority...  bottom line...)
 
So my recommendations, in order of cost effectiveness, would be to scout out
the last trick I mentioned, or to find the winder (from my list above and
from those others send you) for the type bobbin you use most.
 
Good Luck!!
 
Clay
--
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA USA 

 

-- Original message -- 
From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Please can we have more details of John Beswick's bobbin-winder. 
 I have a bobbin winder of the locally produced type and I find
that it does 
 not hold all types of bobbins correctly. So, you guessed, I need
another one 
 that will hold all kinds of bobbins properly. At present I am
winding 
 bobbins manually and because I have problems with my thumbs - it
can get 
 really painful for me. 
 Thanks, 
 Karen in Malta. 
 


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[lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Sue Babbs
I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and  patterns to fit those 
sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and fansticks?

Sue

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[lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan

Sue wrote:

I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and  patterns to fit 
those

sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and fansticks?

Try SMP to see if they do anything you like:

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/smplace/sfr_cat.htm

I think someone was selling the Springett patterns and sticks at one time, 
but can't recall who.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Fans (2)

2007-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Just remembered, Kleinhout in Holland also sell stick sets with anything 
from 8 to 20 sticks per fan. Unfortunately there are no pictures.


http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/

and, of course there's Malcolm Cox, who advertises on the suppliers page of 
the UK Lace Guild web site.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Beth Schoenberg

Here I go, de-lurking again ---

On 31/07/2007, at 12:45 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:

I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and  patterns to fit 
those sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and 
fansticks?

Sue

Bobbin-maker and genius-gadgeteer John Beswick, here in Australia, will 
make sets of fan-sticks for you, customized (within limits).  You need 
to send him the fan-leaf size/dimensions that you intend to make -- he 
suggested to me that I send him a paper version of the intended 
fan-leaf, so he knows exactly how to make the set of sticks so it fits. 
 I'm still deciding how I want to use a set of perspex(Plexiglass) 
fan-sticks, but I haven't designed the fan-leaf yet, so I haven't 
actually ordered from him.  John is the designer of the take-apart 
pocket bobbin-winder, among other inventions.


It's very handy to have a set of sticks made for you if you're 
designing your own leaf, especially if you want a fontange or ballon 
shape, or asymmetrical, or a novelty shape across the top.  
Historically, although folding fans that open to the shape of 
a-section-of-a-circle have been the hands-down favorites, folding fans 
have been made in a huge variety of shapes.


I have also been cruising eBay for ratty old fans, or plain old ugly 
fans (yeah, they happened, and were often enough considered so even in 
their time of origin), which historians would not think it necessary to 
preserve.  Very, very occasionally there will come up for auction a set 
of sticks which has already been stripped of it's leaf, or a set that 
never had a leaf.


My most recent such purchase is a fan that has a bronze-colored silk 
leaf hand-painted with gorgeous tiny songbirds in shades of blue and 
brown.  The silk has shattered beyond repair in several places, but the 
little paintings are largely intact.  When I have a suitable shadow-box 
frame ready, I will be carefully removing the fan-leaf and mounting it, 
flat and archivally, in the shadowbox in a way that minimizes the look 
of damage.  The sticks are a darkish wood, cut in a classic serpentine 
style (wavy along the whole length, each stick and the guards), and 
natural finish with no paint, gilding, or pique work.


It doesn't help you find a matched set of sticks-with-a-lace-pattern, 
but if you *do* want to try eBay for some fan-sticks, search with a 
group of words -- hand fan eventail facher ventaglio abanico -- to 
get listings from any number of European and South American ebay 
members, as well as North American.  You'll probably get lots of 
rock-star posters, modern Chinese Battenberg fans, sometimes 
whole-salers selling bulk lots of cheap souvenir-type fans, but putting 
antique in the search only limits the English-language search.


Prices have been steadily rising on ebay, but if you are patient, you 
can still get sets of bone, ivory, or fine wood sticks for US $20-$50, 
intact and in useable condition.  Tortoise-shell rarely goes for less 
than $60, and then only if the fan is terrible and/or the sticks are 
damaged, broken, or parts-missing. If you are buying internationally, 
be aware of endangered-species-product laws, and make sure your seller 
labels your package properly, especially as to *age.*


Read descriptions carefully, especially if the seller deals in a large 
variety of antiques or collectibles -- they often don't know how to 
describe fans adequately, or else they underestimate or overestimate 
the difficulty of repairing the sticks for use.  Many non-specialists 
just assume that anyone who buys a fan intends it only for framing.


The seller betsycrnfa specializes in antique fans, nearly all are 
very nice keepers, but if you call up her listings, you'll usually 
get several links to fans listed by other sellers.  The seller 
eastayton, who specializes in fine antique laces, also sells fans and 
lace fans, and you can use her listings the same way.


Does this help any?

Beth Schoenberg
--- formerly of New Jersey, USA, now in Canberra, Australia -- where 
it's COLD!


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Re: [lace] New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-12 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 2/5/07 9:18:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 One of my first lace book purchases was Ann Collier's Lace in  
 Miniature because my major hobby is porcelain doll making.  In fact,  
 I had my first experience with bobbin lace when Gunvor conducted a  
 day long beginners seminar for members of my doll club.  
--
Dear Sue in New Jersey and others making lace for dolls or small mannequins,

Hope you know about this book:

Les Petites Dames de Mode - An Adventure in Design
By John R. Burbidge
Reverie Publishing Company, 2004
ISBN 1-932485-06-6
List price $45, 144 pages, Hardback

While waiting to be shipped home from Paris at the end of World War 2, 
Burbidge visited an exhibit called Theatre de la Mode that had just opened at 
the 
Grand Gallery of the Pavilion Marsan in the Louvre.  There were nearly 300 
27-inch mannequins dressed by the leading Parisian couturiers, meant to show 
that 
despite the war, Paris couture was still able to create.  From this exhibit, 
came much of his inspiration.

Mr. Burbidge studied at the New England School of Art and Design, then became 
a bridal designer with Priscilla of Boston for the next 40 years.  In the 
late 1970's he began to recreate period costumes to clothe 29-inch mannequins.  
He has created 63 dresses for over 50 fashion dolls.  These have been exhibited 
in museums throughout the U.S.

Not a how-to book,  but a truly lovely book that proves such things as tiny 
fans can be made.  Many mannequins have perfect miniature gloves, parasols, 
hats and fans.  A lot of miniature-scale laces for accessories, undergarments, 
and gowns are displayed on these small figures.  The laces are always in 
perfect 
scale, often antique.  He has found that old laces seem to age much better 
than fabrics, especially silk.

A stunning accomplishment!  A stunning book!

Mr. Burbidge, now in his 90's, was a speaker at last year's Costume Society 
of America symposium, which I attended.  I did not think this of interest to 
Arachnes, but maybe it is?

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 

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[lace] New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-10 Thread Cindy Rusak

Morning Spiders,

Thanks to all who I haven't responded privately to, for the responses to my 
query about the fan book by Ann Keller.  I have put it on my wish list.


Cindy Rusak - in cold but sunny Wisconsin

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[lace] Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. Christine Springett

2007-02-06 Thread Jean Nathan

Aurelia wrote:

As to the
length/width ratio of fansticks to fanleaf, you will find a very
precise description along with diagrams in Christine Springett's
ever-so-helpful little booklet Designing and Mounting Lace Fans.
This was published in 1985, but as it is really the authoritative
word on the subject, and quite a wonderful little book, I should
think it might still be had -- try Christine herself. 

I spoke to Christine a year or so ago and asked her if she planned to 
re-issue this booklet as I was anxious to get a copy, or if she was going to 
update it. She replied she had no current (then) plans to do so as she has 
seveal other projects on hand. Telling her how much second-hand copies 
realised on ebay (several times the published price) didn't persuade her. 
Fortunately, since then, I was given a copy.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. Christine Springett

2007-02-06 Thread clayblackwell
When I saw Christine a year ago, she had instructional CDs for making fans.  
The CD incorporates the information in her booklet, but she said that it also 
has some new information which she has developed since publishing the booklet 
so many years ago.  I bought the CD and have watched it, and it is excellent, 
as are all of her instructional CDs.  

Clay

 
 -- Original message --
From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aurelia wrote:
 
 As to the
 length/width ratio of fansticks to fanleaf, you will find a very
 precise description along with diagrams in Christine Springett's
 ever-so-helpful little booklet Designing and Mounting Lace Fans.
 This was published in 1985, but as it is really the authoritative
 word on the subject, and quite a wonderful little book, I should
 think it might still be had -- try Christine herself. 
 
 I spoke to Christine a year or so ago and asked her if she planned to 
 re-issue this booklet as I was anxious to get a copy, or if she was going to 
 update it. She replied she had no current (then) plans to do so as she has 
 seveal other projects on hand. Telling her how much second-hand copies 
 realised on ebay (several times the published price) didn't persuade her. 
 Fortunately, since then, I was given a copy.
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
 
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[lace] Re: New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-05 Thread Sue Fischler
On Feb 4, 2007, at 5:46 PM, lace-digest wrote:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [lace] New Book/Lace Fans? (long)

One of my first lace book purchases was Ann Collier's Lace in  
Miniature because my major hobby is porcelain doll making.  In fact,  
I had my first experience with bobbin lace when Gunvor conducted a  
day long beginners seminar for members of my doll club.  I continued  
as her bobbin lace student while working on my French fashion doll's  
trousseau with the club.  I wanted the ultimate accessory for the  
doll's wedding outfit to be a bobbin lace fan and began searching for  
miniature fansticks in June once Gunvor deemed I was ready to move  
beyond her prescribed Torchon curriculum.

I have been in contact with every fanstick maker and supplier I could  
find to locate a fan frame that would be 2.5 inches in length, ivory  
in color and pretty/graceful in design.  It did not exist but by  
following a lead from a supplier listed in Collier's book, I located  
the small plastic frame she used in her book by searching wedding  
decorations.  Now I had one which was shapely but it is 3 inches in  
length and plastic.  Here is where Tamara's mention of morphic  
resonance, synchronicity or freaky-scary comes into play.  I met a  
bone craftsman at the Philadelphia Miniaturia show who had bone  
corset stays in his display that approximated the shape of  
fansticks.  We had a conversation about fansticks and the problems of  
working bone.  I disassembled the plastic fan, sent him inner and  
outer sticks and he says he can make a frame to my specifications.

The final fan frame design details need to be determined and this is  
where Arachneans can help me.  First, is there any ratio I should  
follow between the length of the fansticks and the width of the  
bobbin lace piece?  I am concerned about the proportions between the  
wider bottom portion of the inner sticks and the more slender upper  
portion where the lace will be mounted.  Second, should the number of  
inner sticks be odd or even?

Now for the lace challenge.  I want to do a floral piece which will  
echo the rose motif used on the brocade fabric of the doll's wedding  
dress overskirt.  My starting point is the Floral Bucks Fan, pg 76  
in Collier's book reduced to 75% but I would greatly appreciate  
suggestions for any other patterns in any type of lace.  I would like  
to use off white or ivory silk threads.  If I choose the reduced  
Floral Bucks Fan, what threads could I substitute for the original's  
140 Brok and 30 DMC Broder Machine gimp?

Sue in New Jersey, USA

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[lace] Re: New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-05 Thread Aurelia Loveman
To begin with, I don't pretend to be an expert on fans. However, some 
of my fans have been published in both British and American lace 
journals, and a couple of them were on display in the Baltimore 
Museum of Art and the Walters Art Museum (also in Baltimore); so I 
have gathered my courage to reply to your question. As to the 
length/width ratio of fansticks to fanleaf, you will find a very 
precise description along with diagrams in Christine Springett's 
ever-so-helpful little booklet Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. 
This was published in 1985, but as it is really the authoritative 
word on the subject, and quite a wonderful little book, I should 
think it might still be had -- try Christine herself. (And for 
inspiration and a sense of how wide the world is for the beginning 
fanmaker, you ought to take Ann Collier's Lace Fans to bed with 
you). As to the number of inner sticks: most of my fans were made for 
me by John Brooker, a genius of a fanmaker. I have a couple of his 
fans that have an even number of sticks; but one of them has eleven 
sticks. And I have an old and lovely Spanish fan that has seventeen 
sticks. So apparently it doesn't matter. Good luck!


Aurelia


The final fan frame design details need to be determined and this is 
where Arachneans can help me.  First, is there any ratio I should 
follow between the length of the fansticks and the width of the 
bobbin lace piece?  I am concerned about the proportions between the 
wider bottom portion of the inner sticks and the more slender upper 
portion where the lace will be mounted.  Second, should the number of

inner sticks be odd or even?


Sue in New Jersey, USA




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[lace] Re: New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:15, Sue Fischler wrote:


Now for the lace challenge.  I want to do a floral piece which will
echo the rose motif used on the brocade fabric of the doll's wedding
dress overskirt.  My starting point is the Floral Bucks Fan, pg 76
in Collier's book reduced to 75% but I would greatly appreciate
suggestions for any other patterns in any type of lace.  I would like
to use off white or ivory silk threads.  If I choose the reduced
Floral Bucks Fan, what threads could I substitute for the original's
140 Brok and 30 DMC Broder Machine gimp?


According to Brenda's book, 140 Brok has 64 wraps per cm. If you 
reduced your pattern to 75%, you'd need a thread with 85 wraps. That 
can't be had today, though Brok180/2 and Egyptian Gassed cotton 185.2 
come close at 82 wraps and should work OK. But it's not silk! The 
finest silk Brenda lists is Kreinik's organzine (68 wraps) and that, 
also, is no longer avaliable. Next finest is Pipers 2/20, which is 62 
wraps, ie actually a bit coarser than the Brok 140.


Something has to give :) My suggestion would be to go for the cotton 
for the basic (whichever one you can find that's closest to the colour 
you want) and silk for the gimp. Personally, I've always found a matte 
basic thread with lustrous gimp a very nice combination, since the 
shiny silk reflects more light and looks paler, thus making the design 
stand out more.


Now gimp. The DMC 30 is 32 wraps so the reduced pattern would need 
something with 42-43 wraps (42.6). There's nothing at 43. Kreinik's Au 
Ver a Soie 130/2 comes close, at 42 but a) I don't know if it's still 
available and b) it's almost matte. Pearsall's silk for fly-tying is 
also 42 wraps but I know nothing about either its availability or its 
sheen.


Going slightly coarser (I like a fat gimp), at 41 wraps we have Pipers 
Fine Twisted silk 6/20, which should be shiny (I have 4/20 and it is 
lovely) and Handweavers Studio EU  silk 2/40 (know nothing about it). 
Going slightly finer, at 44 wraps, there's Pearsall's New Maltese silk 
(know nothing about it) or Handweavers Studio EU silk 2/60 (ditto)


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-04 Thread Margot Walker
I bought the book when it was first published (and paid £10 for it).  It 
has the prickings, working diagrams, etc. for 5 fans designed by Ann 
Keller.  The fans vary in size from tiny to large and all have a modern 
Celtic theme.  I haven't tried making any of them (yet) but I think 
they're beautiful.


On Saturday, February 3, 2007, at 09:33  PM, Cindy Rusak wrote:

I just came across a listing on Amazon for a book on Irish bobbin lace
fans.  I've included the title:  Craobh Nua: the First Collection of 
Irish Themed Bobbin Lace Fans

Does anyone have any information on this book?


Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html

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Re: [lace] New Book/Lace Fans? (long)

2007-02-04 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 2/3/07 8:39:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
 I just came across a listing on Amazon for a book on Irish bobbin lace 
 fans.  I've included the title:
 Craobh Nua: the First Collection of Irish Themed Bobbin Lace Fans
 
 The link is:
 http://www.amazon.com/Craobh-Nua-Collection-Themed-Bobbin/dp/0951990535/sr=1-
 21/qid=1170552380/ref=sr_1_21/104-9582480-4834354?ie=UTF8s=books
 
Dear Cindy (in state of Wisconsin),

This is one of several fan books by Ann Keller, so definitely go to see what 
is on her site:
www.annmargaretkeller.com 

I would like to warn that in my experience she takes a long time to fill 
orders, and claimed last year that her e-mail provider is not reliable (she 
does 
not always receive e-mail sent to her).

Last May, I sent $140 cash for several books to Ann via a friend who was to 
visit Ann's studio.   The books didn't get here and I tried to find out what 
happened.   That is why I asked on Arachne last Fall for a alternative way to 
reach her.  The order arrived in October!

Copies of all Ann's books are in my library, and they are lovely.  They are 
spiral bound, printed on 8 1/4 x 11 3/4 paper.   The book you inquired about 
is 32 pages in length.  With postage, it averaged out to about $24.

This 1999 (it is not new) book has 5 fans - historical background, story of 
the designs, general instructions, stitch instructions (with drawings), 
patterns, lists of supplies, mounting instructions.  

If you have found an alternative book supplier in U.S., it seems wise to use 
it!

Ann mentions that Malcolm Cox is the maker of her fansticks.   *Every* time 
we write about fansticks on Arachne there is a flood of inquiries, so I looked 
for him.He is located in Ireland and advertises in Lace, the bulletin of 
The Lace Guild UK.
www.connect.ie/users/mcox

I just tried this web site, and it was extremely slow.  E-mail is: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cindy,  There are fanstick makers in the US, but I just looked at a recent 
IOLI Bulletin and did not find an advertiser.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-03 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hello Spiders,

I just came across a listing on Amazon for a book on Irish bobbin lace 
fans.  I've included the title:

Craobh Nua: the First Collection of Irish Themed Bobbin Lace Fans

The link is:

http://www.amazon.com/Craobh-Nua-Collection-Themed-Bobbin/dp/0951990535/sr=1-21/qid=1170552380/ref=sr_1_21/104-9582480-4834354?ie=UTF8s=books

Does anyone have any information on this book?

Thanks,
Cindy - in very cold Wisconsin

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[lace] Re: New Book/Lace Fans?

2007-02-03 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Feb 3, 2007, at 20:33, Cindy Rusak wrote:


I just came across a listing on Amazon for a book on Irish bobbin lace
fans.  I've included the title:

Craobh Nua: the First Collection of Irish Themed Bobbin Lace Fans

The link is:

http://www.amazon.com/Craobh-Nua-Collection-Themed-Bobbin/dp/ 
0951990535/sr=1-21/qid=1170552380/ref=sr_1_21/104-9582480-4834354? 
ie=UTF8s=books


Does anyone have any information on this book?


You could try looking at Ann Margaret Keller's website. According to  
the Amazon link, she's the author and the book was published in '99.

http://www.annkellerireland.com/home.htm

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Fans

2006-08-16 Thread Patsy A. Goodman

Hi All,

Recently there's been a discussion on fans and their shapes and the sticks.

Just found this site and while browsing through all the different parts I 
found some really great information.  There's even a page with all the 
different shapes and kinds of fans.


Here's the link:   http://www.handfanpro.com/

Hope you enjoy it.  Not much on lace fans but still very interesting.

Patsy A. Goodman
Chula Vista, CA, USA
TatPat1, NATA #333
AKA - Queen Tat Pat of the Red Hat Lacers 


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[lace] Fans and fan sticks 2

2006-08-14 Thread Jean Nathan
If you can't find sticks to fit the fan pattern you have, it might be 
possible to alter the pattern to fit the sticks. If you can get the outer 
curve to fit, the inner curve would need to be adjusted. I could do this 
quite easily with the one I'm currently making because there are three 
distinct rows of elements and I could move these closer together up 
towards the outer edge, and then add something to each end of the element to 
make it fit. I'm not doing that because I want to make the piece that made 
me want o make lace more or less as it was designed. Obviously it depends on 
the type of lace - not easy with the continuous laces like torchon and Bucks 
point.


We all assume that to make a fan it has to be curved, and, if mounted, has 
to be on a set of sticks which (in theory) can be closed forming pleats in 
the leaf. But, there are the face screen type of fans, which are mounted on 
one central (usually turned decoratively) central stick. Not that many 
patterns about - Ann Collier has a couple pictured in her book 'Lace Fans', 
but I can't find a prickings for them. I know Tamara designed and made one 
of these, and is probably the best person in this group to talk about how to 
mount the lace. Ann Collier mentions wiring the lace.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Re lace fans

2006-08-14 Thread Aurelia Loveman

(Re stands for repeating myself)

Tamara is quite right about finding beat-up and tattered old fans of 
which the sticks are still in good shape, and are often quite 
marvelous.  I have made five fans so far (my first one, Espalier, 
made it to the cover of a recent issue of the IOLI Bulletin;  and my 
latest one, Gardening in Winter, will be coming out, I think, in 
the same venue this winter. Espalier's sticks were part of a 
pathetic-looking fan ($6) that I found in the window of an 
ice-cream-parlor-cum-junk-shop in St. Augustine, but they have long 
since (ever since I threw away their tattered old rag of a fan-leaf) 
allowed as how they were really upper-class Spanish.  Gardening's 
sticks were made for me by John Brooker, the English fan-maker. They 
are made of gorgeously-carved ivory, and are to die for. Brooker is 
no longer working, but there is a Malcolm-somebody who advertises in 
Lace, the publication of the British Lace Guild, that he makes 
fans; and I am sure you would also be happy with our own John Aebi's 
work, he does beautiful things. And you might given Kenn van Dieren a 
try.


Christine Springett has a booklet, about fifteen years old by now, 
but I think may still be available, called Designing and Mounting 
Lace Fans.  Required reading!


Making a fan is a delightful experience, and I can't tell you the 
feeling of glory and achievement when you have made one! --  Aurelia


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Re: [lace] Re lace fans

2006-08-14 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have Christine's little Fan book, and am glad I do.  But during a 
class with her during the winter, she talked about her fan book and said 
that she wants to update it as she has found ways to improve her 
original methods and instructions.  Meanwhile, she has issued a DVD in 
which she gives very clear instructions which take you through the 
entire process.  She said it is based on her original book, but has the 
improvements which she would like to add to a new edition!  I highly 
recommend the DVD.


Clay

Aurelia Loveman wrote:

(Re stands for repeating myself)

Tamara is quite right about finding beat-up and tattered old fans of 
which the sticks are still in good shape, and are often quite 
marvelous.  I have made five fans so far (my first one, Espalier, 
made it to the cover of a recent issue of the IOLI Bulletin;  and my 
latest one, Gardening in Winter, will be coming out, I think, in the 
same venue this winter. Espalier's sticks were part of a 
pathetic-looking fan ($6) that I found in the window of an 
ice-cream-parlor-cum-junk-shop in St. Augustine, but they have long 
since (ever since I threw away their tattered old rag of a fan-leaf) 
allowed as how they were really upper-class Spanish.  Gardening's 
sticks were made for me by John Brooker, the English fan-maker. They 
are made of gorgeously-carved ivory, and are to die for. Brooker is no 
longer working, but there is a Malcolm-somebody who advertises in 
Lace, the publication of the British Lace Guild, that he makes fans; 
and I am sure you would also be happy with our own John Aebi's work, 
he does beautiful things. And you might given Kenn van Dieren a try.


Christine Springett has a booklet, about fifteen years old by now, but 
I think may still be available, called Designing and Mounting Lace 
Fans.  Required reading!


Making a fan is a delightful experience, and I can't tell you the 
feeling of glory and achievement when you have made one! --  Aurelia


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[lace] Fans and cats

2006-08-13 Thread aablair
Hi-
When looking for fan sticks I went to my local antique shop and talked with the 
owner.  I found out that they usually won't buy a fan if the leaf is not in 
good condition.  They usually throw away the fan sticks.  i said I wanted to 
make a lace fan and if I was going to do all that work I wanted nice 
sticks.you know, bone or ivory and i only wanted to pay $0.50 for it.of 
course that got a laugh but the owner pulled out a box and said I could have 
one of the fans he had.  The cloth was falling apart but it had been beautiful 
with a hand painted design and very interesting sequins of all different 
shapes, tear drops, flowers, etc. on it.  
I carefully removed the cloth and stored it, just couldn't bear to throw it 
away, and then cleaned the frame.  To my surprise, it is ivory with beautiful 
gold gilt.  Now I am designing the fan for it.  It is quite large and I have 
not been able to find any ready made patterns that would fit.  
Also there are a couple of ribs missing so I'll just adjust the pattern to fit. 
 Can't wait to get started but will have to since I already have a project 
going on my large pillow.

And for the lacer who has problems with her cat playing with the 
bobbins...my cat lies beside me in the chair when I am lacing so I solved 
the problem by making her her own bobbin.  I took an empty Kreinik spool and 
tied a piece of crochet thread around it and made a loop on the other end of 
the thread.  Using a divider pin I attach it to the side of my pillow where she 
can reach it and now she laces with me and leaves my bobbins alone

Linda Blair
Edgefield, South Carolina, USA
  

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[lace] Lace fans

2005-11-16 Thread Pauline
Dear friends,

 

I suggested to my family, that they would make a lovely Christmas present,
but strongly feel, my suggestion fell on stony ground :-(

 

They are absolutely beautiful, many thanks for the ref;

 

Regards,

 

 

Pauline

 

in Somerset. U.K. (Where we have a real clear sky, a full moon, and either
Venus or Mars very low in the sky and lit up very well, and a cold hard
frost expected of minus 2 degrees, our second frost of the winter, not bad
for the 16th. Nov;)

 

www.wincanton-uk.com

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[lace-chat] Lace fans

2005-11-16 Thread Pauline
Dear friends,

 

I suggested to my family, that they would make a lovely Christmas present,
but strongly feel, my suggestion fell on stony ground :-(

 

They are absolutely beautiful, many thanks for the ref;

 

Regards,

 

 

Pauline

 

in Somerset. U.K. (Where we have a real clear sky, a full moon, and either
Venus or Mars very low in the sky and lit up very well, and a cold hard
frost expected of minus 2 degrees, our second frost of the winter, not bad
for the 16th. Nov;)

 

www.wincanton-uk.com

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[lace] Mounting lace fans

2005-09-06 Thread Jean Nathan
Christine Springett's booklet on designing and mounting lace fans is out of 
print. I emailed her several months ago to ask if it's going to be 
reprinted. She said she does plan to rewrite it, but has other projects she 
wants to tackle first. So don't ho9ld your breath on that. A copy sold on 
ebay a couple of weeks ago for GBP27.00.


Christine's video Fan Mounting is available, direct from Springetts 
themselves in the UK and from Holly van Sciver in the US. Shows how to mount 
a leaf using tacky glue and wallpaper paste (Jeri calm down!) using plastic 
sticks and wooden sticks. She also mentioned stitching in passing. How to 
pleat and fold the leaf is the most useful part along with pointing out 
pitfalls which are obvious when you think about them - but we don't always 
think do we?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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RE: [lace] Mounting lace fans

2005-09-06 Thread Carolyn Hastings
How to 
 pleat and fold the leaf is the most useful part along with
 pointing out 
 pitfalls which are obvious when you think about them - but we 
 don't always 
 think do we?
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

OK, I have a question, probably dumb, that has puzzled me for years.
**Why** go to all the bother of pleating and folding the fan at all?  I've
done perhaps half a dozen fans, none have I bothered with this step (since I
couldn't figure out why, I didn't).  All but one of the fans are displayed
in frames,and they are open. So they will probably not ever be closed.  But
prior to framing, when I closed the fans, the fan leaf just folded up neatly
into folds along the sticks.  The single fan that hasn't been framed is
intended for use at weddings by the females in our family, and that folds
very neatly when necessary.  So, why bother?

I can see the good sense of reinforcing the lace (especially in the case of
the large wedding fan), as Treena Ruffner suggested in her IOLI Bulletin
article.  Someday, that reinforcing may save the lace from tearing.

Another question: one set of fan sticks came with single holes,perhaps two
inches apart, along the sticks.  How am I supposed to use that to mount the
fan leaf?  I just can't picture it, unless I am supposed to be happy with
two inch long lengths of thread running along the beautiful backs of the
sticks (and they are beautiful, covered with abalone as they are, and meant
to be viewed). 

 Shows how to mount 
 a leaf using tacky glue and wallpaper paste (Jeri calm down!) 
 using plastic 
 sticks and wooden sticks. She also mentioned stitching in 
 passing.

I have had a whole evolution regarding the mounting glue.  Now I use very
pure Japanese wheat paste (cooked) purchased from Talas in New York.  It is
relatively weak (which I like since the glue will let loose before the
threads tear), but has less chance of impurities staining the lace over
time.  I have heard that at least one prominent teacher recommends the use
of cooking flour to make the paste -- now that seems surprising advice,
given the likelihood of future problems.  Why do some people take all those
hours to make lace, and then refuse to spend a little extra money/time to
safeguard their investment?

Regards,
Carolyn

Carolyn Hastings
Stow, MA USA 





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RE: [lace] Mounting lace fans

2005-09-06 Thread Alice Howell

At 07:16 AM 9/6/2005, you wrote:

OK, I have a question, probably dumb, that has puzzled me for years.
**Why** go to all the bother of pleating and folding the fan at all? 
  All but one of the fans are displayed in frames,and they are open.


If a fan is intended to be framed, it makes no sense to bother with folding 
it.  If you keep it as a single entity, it is easier to store and transport 
folded.  In my fan class, we glued the fanleaf to the sticks, let dry, and 
then gently folded if we wanted it to fold.  The folds were not pressed in 
sharp creases.



I have had a whole evolution regarding the mounting glue.  Now I use very
pure Japanese wheat paste (cooked) purchased from Talas in New York. 
... I have heard that at least one prominent teacher recommends the use

of cooking flour to make the paste --


Wheat paste IS flour and water, cooked together.  Use plain, unbleached 
flour that has no additives, plus water, and you have pure wheat 
paste.  One part flour to five parts water, cooked for a minute or two, 
stirred frequently.  For the small fan I made, I needed only about a 
teaspoon of flour.


Happy lacing,
Alice in Oregon--celebrating finishing a 33 long project.  Alas -- if it 
had been in two colors, I could have extended it as my table ribbon. G 


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RE: [lace] Mounting lace fans

2005-09-06 Thread Carolyn Hastings
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Alice Howell

 
 Wheat paste IS flour and water, cooked together.  Use plain, 
 unbleached 
 flour that has no additives, plus water, and you have pure wheat 
 paste.  One part flour to five parts water, cooked for a 
 minute or two, 
 stirred frequently.  For the small fan I made, I needed only about a 
 teaspoon of flour.
 
 Happy lacing,
 Alice in Oregon



Although Japanese wheat paste is (obviously) flour, it differs from flour
that you buy in the grocery store.  I think it is really starch, very fine
and pure.

I was originally informed about this by the conservator at the rare books
library at the university where my husband used to work.  I had written to
ask his advice (he is, bar none, the most informed individual I've ever
heard regarding issues of conservation) for what to use to mount the fans.
He told me that regular (supermarket) wheat flour still has many impurities
that may in later years cause stains.  He highly recommended the use of the
Japanese wheat paste (Zen Shofu).  It is a very pure form of flour, and I
think it is finer.  Of course his experience is with books, not textiles,
but the same concerns apply.

I use a 1:5 ratio paste:distilled water (1/4 tsp. was enough for my very
very large fan) cooked 15 seconds in the microwave.  I keep it frozen until
I need it and it has lasted for years.

Here's some more information:

http://www.nedcc.org/plam3/tleaf66.htm (Northeast Documents Conservation
Center)

Conservators recommend paste that is homemade from pure starch extracted
from flour, usually wheat or rice flour. This starch is available from
conservation suppliers in powdered form. A recipe for starch paste follows,
as well as directions for making paste in a microwave oven. 

And for those of us who have scorned the idea of using wallpaper paste, here
is a permutation from the same source as above (using wallpaper paste
compared to methyl cellulose to me is as using store flour to wheat paste):

ANOTHER SIMPLE PASTE: METHYL CELLULOSE
Methyl cellulose, the main ingredient in most commercial wallpaper pastes,
is acceptable for conservation purposes if used in its pure form. It is
available from conservation suppliers as a white powder and does not need to
be cooked.

More information, and instructions, about each method and more appear on
their web site.

I still think it worth the time and expense in hope of having my lace look
nice longer.  

Regards,
Carolyn




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Re: [lace] Mounting lace fans

2005-09-06 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 9/6/05 5:15:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 Although Japanese wheat paste is (obviously) flour, it differs from flour
 that you buy in the grocery store.  I think it is really starch, very fine
 and pure.
 

Yes, Carolyn!  

Anyone who has mastered Japanese silk embroidery will recognize this.  It is 
described in Suji Tamura's book The Techniques of Japanese Embroidery, page 
54.  Metal threads are usually not stitched, but couched on top with silk 
thread.  The ends are poked or pulled to the back and trimmed to a short 
length.  
Some of these embroidered pieces are various types of fans, and they are 
covered with fabric on the back so you do not see how they have been 
stabilized.  

When you think about it - with many silk and metal threads loose on back of 
fine embroidered fabric, you do not want the appearance of lumps made by 
weaving in ends showing on the top surface. The best way to secure the tails 
and 
not tear silk is with the wheat starch, cooked into a jelly.   Very little is 
used - it must not soak through to the top (right) side.  The instructions are 
to put a very small amount of starch jelly in the palm of your hand, add a 
little water, if necessary, and work it into a very thin film.  Rub this onto 
the 
back of the embroidered areas with your fingertip in the direction of the 
stitches and be careful to stay within the embroidered area so as not to stain 
the fabric.

This has been done for centuries.  And, I have bought old Chinese 
embroideries with something that looks similar on the back.  It seems a good 
solution to 
a difficult problem, since it has withstood the test of time.  Very often, 
silk areas that do not have embroidery will shred and fall apart.  The 
embroidered areas remain intact, and I think that is due to the application of 
wheat 
starch.  

All threads are vulnerable to expansion and contraction when kept in a 
changing temperature/humidity climate, and that is probably why the unstarched 
silk 
areas fall apart - from the wear that comes from this action that the human 
eye does not see.  The starch is powerful in that it prevents movement of the 
fibers in the embroidered areas.

I urge you to store your lace fans in a climate where there are few changes 
in temperature/humidity.  No attic storage, please!  And no basement storage, 
either!  In many climates, you should hang framed fans on an inside wall.  Even 
though you are indoors, the outer wall temperatures fluctuate from day to 
night, and that is not a good thing.  Observe how air conditioned air and 
heated 
air is circulating in the room.  Do not spotlight, or place framed fans near 
natural or artificial light or over a source of heat.  All this makes sense to 
most of us, but you would not believe what some interior decorators (even 
famous ones) do with textile art. 

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Fans

2005-05-17 Thread Jenny Barron
try here
http://www.annmargaretkeller.com/
jenny barron
Scotland

Fran Higham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been to check out Malcolm Cox's fanstick site and notice that he
mentions that his fanssticks suit patterns by Springetts, Snowgoose and Ann
Keller.

Can anyone tell me who Ann Keller happens to be and where I may see her
patterns?

TIA

Fran

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[lace] Fans

2005-05-16 Thread Fran Higham
I've been to check out Malcolm Cox's fanstick site and notice that he
mentions that his fanssticks suit patterns by Springetts, Snowgoose and Ann
Keller.

Can anyone tell me who Ann Keller happens to be and where I may see her
patterns?

TIA

Fran

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Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book adresses

2004-09-20 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Lacefriends,
Just back but not yet here. The Deutscher Klöppelverband has changed 
its adress a while ago and has also changed e-mail-adress. Here they 
are:

Deutscher Klöppelverband e. V.
Schloss Zweibrüggen
Zweibrüggen 40
D-52531 Übach-Palenberg
Germany
Tel: +49(0)2451/49985Mo - Do 8.00 - 14.00  Fr 8.00 - 12.00  Frau 
Conrad
Fax: +49(0)2451/49986

e-mai: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet: www.deutscher-kloeppelverband.de
For those who are perhaps nearby, sunday 17th of octobre 2004 Day of 
open door from 14.00 - 18.00.

To clear  something about the books. Yes most of them are the work of 
several persons. The Peacock and Fan-book too. This book is made to fit 
to the theme of the next congress, here it was for 2004. And there is a 
call, often very short, to all designers in the Verband to make a 
design which fit. So for next year we prepare a book with flowers.
Books like Chantilly... or Bänderspitze.. are also the work of 
several people. People who know a lot about the theme or work on it for 
other purposes were asked to help.
Hope everything is clear now.
Greetings

Ilske
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Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book

2004-09-18 Thread palmhaven
Dear Jeri,

Thank you for the book review.  It was quite informative.  I do love peafowl
and will look into obtaining the book.

Sylvia



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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book  Lace Fans Book


 Dear Lacemakers,

 Since there was the inquiry about the Spitzen Pfauen book, I thought I'd
 write (in English!) about it and about the sister book Spitzen Facher,
both
 published in 2004 by Deutscher Kloeppelverband, in German language.  They
gave a
 web address in the books, but it did not work for me.  You could try a
 publisher search (might work for you), or the e-mail they gave:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ask where these books are available in other nations.  I purchased these
at
 the DK booth at OIDFA-Prague.  Both are very beautiful, on high-quality
glossy
 paper, in color, and have the patterns.  I am using the word patterns,
 because some are for needlelace and that language term better covers both.

 Lace Peacocks:  Soft Cover, 44 pages, large sheet of patterns inserted in
 back (loose - no pocket).  DK books are often written in chapters by a
group
 (committee?), and this is done in that format by 8 authors.  There are
many photos
 of peacocks from various countries, techniques and eras in beginning of
the
 book.  For example, one is a Point d'Angleterre from the Metropolitan
Museum of
 Art.  There are 24 new patterns - the way I read it.  When I purchased the
 books, I requested that they write the price inside the covers.  This was
not
 done with this book, so I cannot give it to you.

 Lace Fans:  Hard Cover, 160 pages, 39 Euros.  Many pages of text in German
 that everyone would like to be able to read.  Lovely pictures of antique
fans.
 Then, the modern -- patterns are printed within the text - sometimes
across
 two pages.  From the index, I'd say there are more than 40 patterns (some
of
 which have variations) which have been contributed from many lacemakers.
 Includes one fan that is called an armbandfacher, which is an elongated
triangle.
  Not sure how effective this is as a fan!  The owner wears this fan on
her
 wrist like a bracelet; it has a circular opening for the hand (I might
prefer
 an oval opening for greater comfort).  The last fan is a facherbrosche
which
 I interpret to be a brooch - to be worn on the person or in the hair.
Many
 of the modern laces are in color, and are very innovative.  There is a
 teaser-fan, by which I mean I think there is no pattern, by Annelies de
Kort - the
 miniaturist who is active on Arachne.  It is titled Ausfuhrung.  Sadly,
for
 her, the picture is probably the only one in the book that seems blurred,
and I
 have no idea what the subject is.  One other confusion:  I could not match
the
 needlelace pattern on page 158 to a picture.

 Anyone who collects items with a peacock motif or fans would LOVE these
 books, even if you cannot read them.  However, these two books again
illustrate
 **how frustrating it is to not be able to purchase translations** for
expensive
 books!

 Do you like to have book reviews appear on Arachne, or would you prefer
they
 be submitted for publication in various lace bulletins?

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book

2004-09-18 Thread Dorte Zielke
Price on the peacook is 24.50 euro
Dorte

http://www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:53 PM
Subject: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book  Lace Fans Book


 Dear Lacemakers,

 Since there was the inquiry about the Spitzen Pfauen book, I thought I'd
 write (in English!) about it and about the sister book Spitzen Facher,
both
 published in 2004 by Deutscher Kloeppelverband, in German language.  They
gave a
 web address in the books, but it did not work for me.  You could try a
 publisher search (might work for you), or the e-mail they gave:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ask where these books are available in other nations.  I purchased these
at
 the DK booth at OIDFA-Prague.  Both are very beautiful, on high-quality
glossy
 paper, in color, and have the patterns.  I am using the word patterns,
 because some are for needlelace and that language term better covers both.

 Lace Peacocks:  Soft Cover, 44 pages, large sheet of patterns inserted in
 back (loose - no pocket).  DK books are often written in chapters by a
group
 (committee?), and this is done in that format by 8 authors.  There are
many photos
 of peacocks from various countries, techniques and eras in beginning of
the
 book.  For example, one is a Point d'Angleterre from the Metropolitan
Museum of
 Art.  There are 24 new patterns - the way I read it.  When I purchased the
 books, I requested that they write the price inside the covers.  This was
not
 done with this book, so I cannot give it to you.

 Lace Fans:  Hard Cover, 160 pages, 39 Euros.  Many pages of text in German
 that everyone would like to be able to read.  Lovely pictures of antique
fans.
 Then, the modern -- patterns are printed within the text - sometimes
across
 two pages.  From the index, I'd say there are more than 40 patterns (some
of
 which have variations) which have been contributed from many lacemakers.
 Includes one fan that is called an armbandfacher, which is an elongated
triangle.
  Not sure how effective this is as a fan!  The owner wears this fan on
her
 wrist like a bracelet; it has a circular opening for the hand (I might
prefer
 an oval opening for greater comfort).  The last fan is a facherbrosche
which
 I interpret to be a brooch - to be worn on the person or in the hair.
Many
 of the modern laces are in color, and are very innovative.  There is a
 teaser-fan, by which I mean I think there is no pattern, by Annelies de
Kort - the
 miniaturist who is active on Arachne.  It is titled Ausfuhrung.  Sadly,
for
 her, the picture is probably the only one in the book that seems blurred,
and I
 have no idea what the subject is.  One other confusion:  I could not match
the
 needlelace pattern on page 158 to a picture.

 Anyone who collects items with a peacock motif or fans would LOVE these
 books, even if you cannot read them.  However, these two books again
illustrate
 **how frustrating it is to not be able to purchase translations** for
expensive
 books!

 Do you like to have book reviews appear on Arachne, or would you prefer
they
 be submitted for publication in various lace bulletins?

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book

2004-09-18 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 18/09/2004 16:55:57 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 They gave a 
 web address in the books, but it did not work for me.  You could try a 
 publisher search (might work for you), or the e-mail they gave: 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

This is an email address not a web address.

The way to work out which is which is simple:

Web addressess are always http://www.x.com/ or http//www.x.co.uk/ etc 


email addresses are always:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc

Regards

Liz in London

I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link 
or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee

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Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book

2004-09-18 Thread Dorte Zielke
The German Lace Guild
www.deutscher-kloeppelverband.de  ore
http://www.deutscher-kloeppelverband.de

on this homepage there is more book on what they have publised.
I have some of them, and are going to bay this peacoock and the fan book all
there book are very nice I like them.
Dorte

http://www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos
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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book  Lace Fans Book


 Dorte,

 Do you know anyone who carries it so I can order the book?

 Sylvia


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 From: Dorte Zielke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book  Lace Fans Book


  Price on the peacook is 24.50 euro
  Dorte
 
  http://www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:53 PM
  Subject: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book  Lace Fans Book
 
 
   Dear Lacemakers,
  
   Since there was the inquiry about the Spitzen Pfauen book, I thought
 I'd
   write (in English!) about it and about the sister book Spitzen
Facher,
  both
   published in 2004 by Deutscher Kloeppelverband, in German language.
 They
  gave a
   web address in the books, but it did not work for me.  You could try a
   publisher search (might work for you), or the e-mail they gave:
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Ask where these books are available in other nations.  I purchased
these
  at
   the DK booth at OIDFA-Prague.  Both are very beautiful, on
high-quality
  glossy
   paper, in color, and have the patterns.  I am using the word
patterns,
   because some are for needlelace and that language term better covers
 both.
  
   Lace Peacocks:  Soft Cover, 44 pages, large sheet of patterns inserted
 in
   back (loose - no pocket).  DK books are often written in chapters by a
  group
   (committee?), and this is done in that format by 8 authors.  There are
  many photos
   of peacocks from various countries, techniques and eras in beginning
of
  the
   book.  For example, one is a Point d'Angleterre from the Metropolitan
  Museum of
   Art.  There are 24 new patterns - the way I read it.  When I purchased
 the
   books, I requested that they write the price inside the covers.  This
 was
  not
   done with this book, so I cannot give it to you.
  
   Lace Fans:  Hard Cover, 160 pages, 39 Euros.  Many pages of text in
 German
   that everyone would like to be able to read.  Lovely pictures of
antique
  fans.
   Then, the modern -- patterns are printed within the text - sometimes
  across
   two pages.  From the index, I'd say there are more than 40 patterns
 (some
  of
   which have variations) which have been contributed from many
 lacemakers.
   Includes one fan that is called an armbandfacher, which is an
 elongated
  triangle.
Not sure how effective this is as a fan!  The owner wears this fan
on
  her
   wrist like a bracelet; it has a circular opening for the hand (I might
  prefer
   an oval opening for greater comfort).  The last fan is a
facherbrosche
  which
   I interpret to be a brooch - to be worn on the person or in the hair.
  Many
   of the modern laces are in color, and are very innovative.  There is a
   teaser-fan, by which I mean I think there is no pattern, by Annelies
de
  Kort - the
   miniaturist who is active on Arachne.  It is titled Ausfuhrung.
 Sadly,
  for
   her, the picture is probably the only one in the book that seems
 blurred,
  and I
   have no idea what the subject is.  One other confusion:  I could not
 match
  the
   needlelace pattern on page 158 to a picture.
  
   Anyone who collects items with a peacock motif or fans would LOVE
these
   books, even if you cannot read them.  However, these two books again
  illustrate
   **how frustrating it is to not be able to purchase translations** for
  expensive
   books!
  
   Do you like to have book reviews appear on Arachne, or would you
prefer
  they
   be submitted for publication in various lace bulletins?
  
   Jeri Ames in Maine USA
   Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
  
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RE: [lace] Lace Peacocks Book Lace Fans Book

2004-09-18 Thread Steph Peters
Jeri wrote:
Lace Peacocks:  Soft Cover, 44 pages, large sheet of patterns inserted in 
back (loose - no pocket).  DK books are often written in chapters by a group 
   (committee?), and this is done in that format by 8 authors. 
My understanding of previous books from DKV is that chapters are written by different 
individuals. The committee involvement is in putting together the entire work. Caveat: 
I haven't seen the books Jeri wrote about.
  
Then, the modern -- patterns are printed within the text - sometimes across 
two pages.  From the index, I'd say there are more than 40 patterns (some of 
which have variations) which have been contributed from many lacemakers.  
Includes one fan that is called an armbandfacher, which is an elongated 
 triangle. 
Not sure how effective this is as a fan!  The owner wears this fan on her 
wrist like a bracelet; it has a circular opening for the hand (I might prefer 
an oval opening for greater comfort).  The last fan is a facherbrosche which 
I interpret to be a brooch - to be worn on the person or in the hair.  Many 
   of the modern laces are in color, and are very innovative.  There is a 
teaser-fan, by which I mean I think there is no pattern, by Annelies de Kort - 
 the 
miniaturist who is active on Arachne.  It is titled Ausfuhrung.  

 Ausfuhrung means worked by. In German lace books the illustrations often have 
Entwurf for design and Ausfuhrung as well.  

Do you like to have book reviews appear on Arachne, or would you prefer they 
be submitted for publication in various lace bulletins?

I'm going to be greedy and say both. A few people will see a review twice, but the 
readerships are generally different.

Regards Steph 
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[lace] Fans

2004-05-13 Thread Margot Walker
I have a beautiful Honiton fan mounted on mother-of-pearl fansticks.  To 
make a long story short, the guard stick (also mother-of-pearl) has been 
broken in two.  It is a clean break.  Does anyone know how to mend 
mother-of-pearl?  Can I glue the two pieces together and if so, what 
kind of glue should I use?

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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RE: [lace] Lace Fans

2003-08-03 Thread Bridget Marrow
I too am a great fan of the Fan Museum in Greenwich.  They pulled out all 
the stops last year with an exhibition of lace fans to mark the OIDFA visit. 
 Over now, alas, but there are some pictures on their website: 
www.fan-museum.org
go to Temporary Exhibitions - Exhibition Archive.

The current exhibition is A Fanfare for the Sun King” from 3rd June until 
21st September 2003. I don't know if there is any lace, I hav'nt seen it 
yet, but it should be spectacular.

Bridget, in Watford, England.

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Re: [lace] Lace Fans to :

2003-08-03 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 I too am a great fan of the Fan Museum in Greenwich.  They pulled out all
 the stops last year with an exhibition of lace fans to mark the OIDFA visit.
 Over now, alas, but there are some pictures on their website:
 www.fan-museum.org
 Bridget, in Watford, England.

Thank you, Bridget, not only have you
given me an URL to keep and continue
visiting - the URL for the museum has
reminded me that *all* commercial
venture URLs do not end in .com and
that a - is an allowable character to
use in an URL . . .

Toni in Seattle
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RE: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-31 Thread Liz Beecher
Yep,

I'm ordering one from him until I can get to a lace fair and buy one from
Richard Gravestock

Regards

Liz Beecher
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Hi All,

I also am a great fan of Richard, but wonder if those of you mourning the
fact that he doesn't send sharp objects out in the post have tried Richard
Ives' Goodies.   He does several prickers - the long slender ones, and the
ones with a round globe-shaped handle - they are also beautifully made, and
works of art!   (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if
that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny
Ives.)

Take care of yourselves,

Carol - in a very wet and stormy Suffolk, UK

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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-30 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

I also am a great fan of Richard, but wonder if those of you mourning the
fact that he doesn't send sharp objects out in the post have tried Richard
Ives' Goodies.   He does several prickers - the long slender ones, and the
ones with a round globe-shaped handle - they are also beautifully made, and
works of art!   (He used to trade under the name of Jennrich Designs, if
that rings any bells with you all, but now they are just Richard and Jenny
Ives.)

Take care of yourselves,

Carol - in a very wet and stormy Suffolk, UK

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[lace] Lace fans

2003-07-29 Thread Jean Nathan
I've made three lace fans so far - just finished one which is just a torchon
edge strip with beads from La Encajera to get back into doing Torchon after
completing a couple of Milanese pieces.

I use Mighty Tacky Glue (might not be called exactly that, but it always has
tacky in the name). It's a water soluble pva which is white when you apply
it and dries invisible on the sticks and the lace.

I made a Bruges flower lace fan and, because I felt it needed a background,
tacked it to a piece of navy cotton to which I'd fused light interfacing.
But I didn't like it and took it apart. The glue dissolved completely off
the fan sticks, but, as I wasn't going to re-use it, I didn't bother to wash
it out of the navy cotton. I painted a piece of silk a paler blue with silk
paint, marked the outline of the fan in tacky glue to seal the edges, cut it
out when dry, and then tacked the fan leaf on that before glueing it to the
fan sticks. The dried tacky glue was visible as a dark line round the edge
of the silk, but as it was hidden by the lace edging on the fan leaf, it
didn't matter. I like it now.

When attaching the leaf to the sticks, I arrange the sticks equally spaced
on a board, and hold them in place with masking tape (draughtsmen's tape). I
put the tape on the back of the sticks if they're fancy on the front face. I
put glue on the sticks and carefully place the leaf on the sticks. When the
glue is dry, I fold the fan so that the pleats form more gently than if the
leaf was pleated before mounting. I store the fans open, and prefer a hint
of pleats rather than razor sharp edges.

For the next one I make, I'm planning to drill holes in the sticks and sew
the leaf in place instead of sticking them only because I haven't tried that
method yet, but still not pleat before mounting.

Jean in Poole
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[lace] Lace fans books

2003-07-29 Thread Annette Gill
You're right - this book is exquisite!  I bought a copy of it for my
sister a couple of years ago, and now wish I had a copy myself.  They sell
it at the Fan Museum in Greenwich (London) for £30.

Annette


Dear Lacemakers,

For Inspiration -- a drop-dead fantastically beautiful book of antique
lace fans, I refer you all to:

Ventagli della collezione Cesari by Franco Maria Ricci, 1999, ISBN 
88-216-0947-2, about $40.  It is over-sized and comes boxed.  In Italian,
but has English and French translations in the back.  Pictures of the fans
are full-size or larger...



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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-29 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Jane,
Christine Springett wrote an article Designing and Mounting Lace Fans. It
came out by the British College of Lace.
Ilske 
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Re: [lace] Lace fans books

2003-07-29 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 7/29/03 4:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You're right - this book is exquisite!  I bought a copy of it for my
 sister a couple of years ago, and now wish I had a copy myself.  They sell
 it at the Fan Museum in Greenwich (London) for £30.
 
 Annette
  
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Re: [lace] Lace fans - Let's Get Professional Advice

2003-07-29 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 7/29/03 4:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You're right - this book is exquisite!  I bought a copy of it for my
 sister a couple of years ago, and now wish I had a copy myself.  They sell
 it at the Fan Museum in Greenwich (London) for £30.
 
 Annette
  
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Dear Lacemakers,

Perhaps the editor of The Lace Guild's bulletin is reading the memos on this 
subject, or someone will forward this note to her. 

Conservation begins with the process of selecting all the appropriate 
materials to be used in creating an item, like a fan.  Fan makers in past centuries 
served a lengthy apprenticeship.  Therefore, the methods have, in the case of 
exceptionally fine fans, been time-tested by professionals.

May I recommend that someone who is conservation-minded in England write an 
article about lace fan mounts, and in the process of doing so - contact the 
Lace Museum and inquire if their conservator could be interviewed?  Surely, they 
have the *most experience* as to what would be the preferred method for 
mounting a fan for a long safe life!  They can explain how it was done in the past. 
There might be an opportunity to take close-up photos, without flash.  They 
probably have a library about fans, and documentation about how they have been 
conserved or restored.  Ideally, the article should list books on the subject 
of lace fans, including some that are rare.

For the members of Arachne who are hearing about the Fan Museum for the first 
time, go to:

http://www.fan-museum.org

This is a delightful, off-the-beaten-path, small museum housed in a city 
mansion.  I visited in 2001 with Sandra Arnold and Sue Hanson.  (It occurs to me 
we have not heard from these lace experts for a long time.)

At the time, the exhibit was Japanese fans.  Quite lovely, but no lace.  The 
space open to the public that day equalled about 3 rooms.  Nice place to 
Christmas shop.   One of the items they were selling as gifts was a tea towel on 
which lacy fans are printed.  There were also nice handkerchiefs with tasteful 
embroidered fans in one corner.  It is up to you to add the lace edging.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 
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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-29 Thread ann DURANT
I've done about a dozen fans, and when it comes to mounting, each time, I
find I have to refer to Christine Springett's book.  I have 3 separate
pleating plans - large, medium and small - which I have drawn up according
to Christine's instructions - when I have completed the fan leaf I tack it
to the pleating plan - I usually tack around the fan/plan 6 or 7 times
before I am ready to pleat.  These pieces of interfacing will last me for
ever, I hope, so I won't have to make any more.

I use wooden fan sticks - usually the ones done by Springetts - and I prime
them before using them with diluted PVA glue, which I allow to dry.  Then I
stick the sticks to the lace with PVA.  I made a bad mistake once, by
glueing the stick to the wrong fold of a pleat, and didn't notice until it
was finished and dried!  I used a stiff bristled brush, and a little
filtered water, and dabbed gently along the line of the stick until I could
lift the lace off the stick, and I was able to relocate in the right place,
so no harm done!

Ann in Manchester, UK
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Re: [lace] Lace fans

2003-07-28 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lacemakers,

For Inspiration -- a drop-dead fantastically beautiful book of antique lace 
fans, I refer you all to:

Ventagli della collezione Cesari by Franco Maria Ricci, 1999, ISBN 
88-216-0947-2, about $40.  It is over-sized and comes boxed.  In Italian, but has 
English and French translations in the back.  Pictures of the fans are full-size 
or larger.

If you are making a fan for an exhibition or contest, I urge you to try to 
borrow this book through the InterLibrary Loan program in your country.  (May be 
called by a different name.)  Ask your local librarian to obtain it for you.  
You will not be disappointed.  Promise.

If anyone needs to look at this at the IOLI convention, let me know by 
Wednesday, and I will put it in my closet on wheels (automobile).

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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