Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread Jeff Richmond
LOL, I am in the same situation. My son has his Harley all apart which is curbing my sawdust creation, hopefully not much longer.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 1, 2024, at 7:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy for registration amazing right what a coincidence Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning. Hey Bill Thank you. For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is trying to put back together.this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again soon. ;-) Take care.talk to you more latter. C.A.G. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT,  wrote:   I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but great as you always do Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning. I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.Today, I found that time. ;-) Let me know what you think?  C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1606468956.1241996.1725148410026%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000501dafc4e%24e7e03490%24b7a09db0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1244333040.1288915.1725196185659%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: Rounding the pen blank on the REVO

2024-07-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice Job Tim 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 27, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Well I finished the Pen and I must say I am happy. I have a 10 coat CA pen finish followed by wet sanding up to 12,000 grit, then a 3 step wax polish finish. I must say I was pretty pleased with the finish. Please see pix below.Look close at the grain patterns that is why I have extra pix. Questions and comments are welcome. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey all, Just played around yesterday eve. for a very short time. But it was LOM time so that was great. Here I have a Stabilized Hard Maple Burl and I decided to round down a bit on the Revo before turning it on the lathe. It is going to be a beautiful pen. I would have had it done,but I did not have both bushings to match for size. I hope by the end of the week they will come in, then I canfinish turning the pen. Stay tuned if that works out. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell




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Re: LEGACY FOR SALE

2024-06-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ditto on that ….. though I am pretty sure 4x8 Maverick with an ATC option is closer to 50KJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 22, 2024, at 9:25 AM, Ryan Jurgens  wrote:After looking at the list of items and seeing the pictures, there is this tug on the whole man cave heart that says I wish I had a lot of excess money to buy toys that could be used to build things. But then . . . if I had that kind of money I believe I would buy the Legacy CNC Maverick 4 x 8 with auto tool changer. Yes, that would be my choice . . .  But I hope someone can use the lot, it is an impressive collection. Likely will need to come down on the price, but that again is someone else’s decision to haggle that out if they are interested. From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 4:38 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: LEGACY FOR SALE Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances for a sale at 8K Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: LEGACY FOR SALE That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep this post active so it helps you in selling. So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then? I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley  wrote:For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800HEALTH Issues are driving this saleIt was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner.  I kept this unit (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland.  There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used accessories.  I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that go with the machine.  I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE.  YOU CAN KEEP WHAT YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T.The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offerI will post as much as the site permits.  Thank You! LEGACY #1Router Frame2 Lathe CentersElevation Supports – 2Supports – 2PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2Router Bit RackBall Socket Allen Wrenches – 3Router Tracer Base4 Pc Bracket SupportDrive Unit with IndexSupport Bracket LEGACY #2Router DriveElevation Support – 2Router Support – 2Elevation Bracket – 3 pc.1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear1000/1500 Ex Index GearHand Crank – 2Gear AssemblyIndex ShaftSupport – 4Horizontal SupportHalf Nut – 3Drive Shaft Support – 4Drive Gear SmallPlastic Spacers – 9Square Connectors – 13L Connectors – 2Elevation Connectors – 22 Bolt Connectors – 133 Bolt Connectors – 2Variety BoltsTail Stock DriveJacobs ChuckLathe Face Plate – 2Router Base3” Face PlateAllen Wrenches – 6Shim – 2Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2Drive Pin HeadstockForm (Octagon)Eliminator Chuck – 2Short 80/20 – 2Hand Cranks – 2Brackets – 4Gear Supports – 2Bracket Supports – 4Triangle Supports – 2Feet – 4Router Wrench – 4Bolts – 3 – BagsBall Allen WrenchDogs – 2Drive Gears – 2Spacers – 2Dust BlockerHorizontal Bench Vice – 2 - BoxThin Stock Support - BoxSpindle Pattern - BoxEliminator Chuck - BoxRight Hand Spiral Drive - BoxDogs – 6 – BoxTemplate Follower - Box LEGACY #34” Binder with hundreds of pages of projectsAssembly Instructions 200/ 800/ 900/ 1200/ 1800/ 2000 and Accessories / Owner Manuals – 4Ornamental Milling – 4Magnate – 3DVR Model 800 EX – 1Contour Follower – 1DVR Projects 1-5, 6-10Hollow Spirals – 1Design KitDVD – Training DVD (1&2) – 2, Demo – 3, Model 900, Legacy Design KitDesign KitGarden ArborLegacy Design Kit with TemplatesIndex Hubs (Box)Router ReducerX and Z Table – HardwareHandleDrive GearsBall Allen Wrenches – 33” 3-Ring Binder – Projects, etc.Ornamental Milling Volume 71” 3-Ring Binder – Manuals, etc. – 3Binders, Manuals/Assembly – 3Magnate Bit ProfilesAccessories, Manuals, etc.  MAGNATE ROUTER BITS3952 - Classic Spiral3934 - Classic Plunge 2704 - Bottom Cleaning Bit 7571 - Rope Molding 7551 - Barley Twist 7561 - Shallow C/PT 5463 – Bird Mouth3952 – Classic Spiral - 25567 – Horizontal Crown7563 – Shallow C/PT3482 – Double Bead Plunge1285 – Plunge Flat Roundover810 – Core Box351 – Plunge Bottom7501 – Plunge Point Round7561 – Shallow Classic3481 – Double Bead Plunge7531 – Rope Molding8270 – Straight Bits1282 – Plunge Flat Round5265B – Straight Bit7554 – Barley Twist809 – Core Box Bits3934 – Classic Plunge2704 – Bottom Cleaning BitS263 – Straight BitsS7802 – Bowl & Tray807 – Core Box Bits2704 – Bottom Cleaning Bit3935 – Classic Plunge7562 – Shallow Classic PointS-7623 – Pattern7581 – Rope Molding709 – V Grooving Bit7676 – Side Reeding805 – Core Box706 – 90 degree V Grooving3933 – Classic Plu

Re: Father's Day

2024-06-16 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Tim 👍Ditto to allJeff from Connecticut On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Happy Father's Day to all you fathers our there. Blessings on your day. With Prayers,Tim J Ziegler Ziegler Laser Worx LLC Ziegler WoodWork and Specialty 



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Re: wood drying

2024-04-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Good info 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 10:53 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Bill, Actually have a game call maker I was talking with yesterday about that very thingso I will be sharing it with him. Great find and thanks. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 7:54 PM  wrote:https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=amp came across this today some of you all might find it interesting Bill



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Re: Roger's new work of Art

2024-03-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Wow,  nice work 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 29, 2024, at 11:22 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the pix. size down enough to share with the Group.I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the group. should see it.Good job Roger!  C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template work but I hope to. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I can find the reply.  Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am using. As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for just basic shapes. details can beadded with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. so as long as my templates are trueto the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two reasons. First the 200 is made for smallerturnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get the best quality of workmanship as I can.I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. I made another 4 templates over the last two days.If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with some of these new templates.Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made for my 200Have a good day.C.A.G.On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello  Everyone.I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses.I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own.Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.



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Re: Legacy 900 for sale Face Book Market place. Seymour, WI

2024-02-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Same for meJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 17, 2024, at 11:04 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:No I'm innocent lol.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:33 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Fakebook says the listing isn't available anymore    Did you buy it?DanKOn Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:11:17 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:yeah that ones been on for a while. I am working on a couple guys local to see if there is some interest in it too but...Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:This is Not the first time this has been posted, but the Price is more then fair.   If any of you all would like a nice machine, this could  be the one for you?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1571681723364793/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A5f8022da-48da-4b49-8682-bf7c9d342b93C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-12 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello  Everyone.I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses.I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own.Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.



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Re: Bowl I turned

2024-02-07 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice work 👍Looks a bit like mahogany.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 7, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good morning, Not a LOM project, but could be. Here's a shallow bowl I turned on my Lathe.Used all Easy Wood Tools Carbide insert tools. Species of wood I'll need to look up. Bought the blank from Cook Woods.Softer light wood. Good safe wax finish.Kind regards,Tim J ZieglerZiegler WoodWork and SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC



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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Great advice Curt. 
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.



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Re: cheapskate Z-axis

2024-02-02 Thread Jeff Richmond
Very interesting 🤔 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 2, 2024, at 9:31 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:The WoodRat is where the original idea came from.  I almost pulled the trigger on oneof those, but I held out for the LOM. My application involves 3 pieces, a pivot pin on therouter shell, a bent rod hooked into the hole for edge guide, and a handle bar bored withholes spaced to let the handle go full range of plunge.  I have to release the plunge lockwith one hand while plunging with the other for now.  It works much better than plungingwith the knobs for me. I can see potential for following a template with the plunge bar, but, you know, baby steps.DanKOn Friday, February 2, 2024 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:yup and Lee Valley has or had a good idea too.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 11:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey Dan.I like it.  This idea has popped up a few times over the years.(If you want to check the archives?)The Wood-Rat system started off this idea yrs back, with there cam router plunge bar design.Your design looks nice. Cant wait to hear how well it works.Do you have some way to over-ride the router locking bar? or is that not needed?C.A.G.





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Re: The Legacy Oval jig

2024-01-15 Thread Jeff Richmond
Very interesting Curt Looking forward to seeing this progress.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 10:35 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Ok TimAt this time I can not adjust the off-set, but by moving the Y and or X axis on the Legacy I can come up with different sized ovals. So there are still a lot of possibility's with this jig. even though it is now yet 100% done at this time. ;-)C.A.G. 





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Hey Curt,That is super exciting for sure. So how do you adjust for different sizes then? When can you do a video of it at least rotating. I would sure like to see that along with everyone else I am sure. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 7:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello everyone.I got it up and working. There is still some fine turning that will need to be done.But here are some photo's of what I did today.C.A.G.



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Re: Sunday Jan 14th.

2024-01-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Brrr… 🥶 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Thanks Curt,No snow here but we have Negative 10 degrees. 10 degrees below 0, with the Wind that equates to 25 to 30 below wind chill. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 9:38 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.(Today starts my weekend.)I hope everyone is worm, and staying Healthy.Its 5 deg. F. outside today,( that's -15.C. for those of you who Do/Use Celsius.)  I just got done shoveling the snow off the driveways and walk.  "MAN" Im feeling my age, at this time! (let just say Im not as Young as I use to be.)Anyhow, once I warm up, I plan to heat up the shop and "Play" some with my Legacy today.  If all goes well, I should have something to share with you all latter . (if not today, Tomorrow I promise.) ;-)Take care everyone.Stay "Well" and Live live to its fullest!More latter.C.A.G



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Re: Legacy for sale in Valparaiso, IN

2023-12-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
   
lol for sure.

  

  
Kind Regards,
   
  Timothy J. Ziegler
  Ziegler WoodWork
& Specialty
  Ziegler Laser Worx
LLC
  14171 160th Ave.
  Foreston MN 56330
   
  320-294-5798
shop
  320-630-2243
cell

  

  


  On Wed, Dec 13,
2023 at 11:01 AM cdkr...@gmail.com
<cdkr...@gmail.com>
wrote:


  
Now if it was an
  Evolution
DanK


  On Wednesday, December
13, 2023 at 12:00:38 PM
UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Good
idea, Curt!  What a Z axis
that would be.  Would make
Tim the Toolman Taylor
proud!
I am not tempted for
  several reasons.  It's out
  of my budget range, I
  don't have the space in
shop or van, and it's
  almost 5 hours away.  
DanK

  On Wednesday,
December 13, 2023 at
9:28:35 AM UTC-5 Curt
George wrote:
  

  
 
Good
  morning everyone.
 
Tim,
  If  you put this
  Legacy on its end,
  the foot print
  will take less
  room in your shop.
  ;-p
 
C.A.G.
 
  
  
 
  


  

  On Wednesday,
December 13,
2023 at 07:39:09
AM EST, Jeff
  

Re: Legacy for sale in Valparaiso, IN

2023-12-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Expired for me as well, hopefully someone from the group picked it up or maybe we will have a new member soon.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 29, 2023, at 6:50 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:John, that listing shows as "expired" on reaching it.  ???  I shouldn't be interested, so no worries.DanKOn Friday, December 29, 2023 at 12:24:32 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Looks like a GREAT Mill !Ball bearing headstock, motor drive, router and turn/rotary table. Self standing with adjustable bed, + the mobility kit . And it looks like there are some extra goodies in the box. (perhaps horizontal vice or steady rest...?) This machine can do a lot!C.A.G.





On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 11:43:25 PM EST, John Gonzo <jgwoo...@gmail.com> wrote:



This one is In Batesville IN.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720684306615888/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking=%7B%22qid%22%3A%22-2817927832422882671%22%2C%22mf_story_key%22%3A%227216088508255890697%22%2C%22commerce_rank_obj%22%3A%22%7B%5C%22target_id%5C%22%3A7216088508255890697%2C%5C%22target_type%5C%22%3A6%2C%5C%22primary_position%5C%22%3A133%2C%5C%22ranking_signature%5C%22%3A8500818345122445851%2C%5C%22commerce_channel%5C%22%3A501%2C%5C%22value%5C%22%3A4.1313255972815e-5%2C%5C%22upsell_type%5C%22%3A129%2C%5C%22candidate_retrieval_source_map%5C%22%3A%7B%5C%226665417240223478%5C%22%3A3016%7D%2C%5C%22grouping_info%5C%22%3Anull%7D%22%2C%22lightning_feed_qid%22%3A%22-2818171648996029038%22%2C%22lightning_feed_ranking_signature%22%3A%228500818345122445851%22%2C%22ftmd_400706%22%3A%2212l%22%7DOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Ziegler wrote:lol for sure.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 11:01 AM cdkr...@gmail.com <cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:Now if it was an EvolutionDanKOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:Good idea, Curt!  What a Z axis that would be.  Would make Tim the Toolman Taylor proud!I am not tempted for several reasons.  It's out of my budget range, I don't have the space inshop or van, and it's almost 5 hours away.  DanKOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:28:35 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Good morning everyone.Tim, If  you put this Legacy on its end, the foot print will take less room in your shop. ;-pC.A.G.





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Nice machine. Too far for me.Tim, no more room in the shop? Time for a mezzanine, lol.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:Beautiful Machine, but even I would not have the space for that one. Yes reasonable price for what your getting. Surprisingly no Z access on that big of machine. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1098212628229574/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A23d64dae-4ecf-44a7-b657-dfd7 Legacy Woodworking Machinery$1,500Listed 14 weeks ago in Valparaiso, INThis is NOT Cheap, but I think its a fair price, there is a lot there to like. One of the longest machine sold by Legacy.Motor drive, ball-bearing headstock, self standing/legs and adjustable bed. <1702441369932blob.jpg>C.A.G.



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Re: Christmas ornament challenge

2023-12-23 Thread Jeff Richmond
Congrats Bill, that is quite achievement with all of that skilled competition. Sorry to hear about the prize lack of delivery.JeffSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2023, at 7:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Hey guys for anyone interested in the Christmas ornament challenge I just received the results, out of 417 entries I came in 6th but I don’t get my prize because the sponsors don’t ship international same old problem for me lol  Bill



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Re: Test post delete at will

2023-12-19 Thread Jeff Richmond
Got it.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 19, 2023, at 11:47 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Merry Christmas everyone.This is a test post after a complete restart of everything because the site wouldn't take a post from me.  Tim Z was able to post the content on my behalf after I sent it to him.  Thank you, Tim.  DanK 



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Re: Posting to LOM group

2023-12-19 Thread Jeff Richmond
Interesting design Dan. Yes, apple wood is very dense.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 18, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through. Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- Forwarded message -From: Dan Krager Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PMSubject: Posting to LOM groupTo: timjzieg...@gmail.com Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.
Merry Christmas, everyone!It's been 
pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random one 
completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of 
the mill was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the 
flutes.  The rest was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.  
There is a hole to accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud
 could be displayed for a bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is 
HARD!  DanK

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Re: Legacy for sale in Valparaiso, IN

2023-12-13 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice machine. Too far for me.Tim, no more room in the shop? Time for a mezzanine, lol.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Beautiful Machine, but even I would not have the space for that one. Yes reasonable price for what your getting. Surprisingly no Z access on that big of machine. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1098212628229574/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A23d64dae-4ecf-44a7-b657-dfd7 Legacy Woodworking Machinery$1,500Listed 14 weeks ago in Valparaiso, INThis is NOT Cheap, but I think its a fair price, there is a lot there to like. One of the longest machine sold by Legacy.Motor drive, ball-bearing headstock, self standing/legs and adjustable bed. <1702441369932blob.jpg>C.A.G.



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Re: WoodPecker's spoil board bit

2023-12-01 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the feedback Tim, I have been considering picking one of these bits up. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good evening, Just wanted to let you know I received my WoodPecker's Spoil Board bit this week and last night had the opportunity to test it. This bit is phenomenal. I have attached a couple pics of the bit chucked up in my REVO HYBRID EXT. I turned the piece you see in the pix. The results were beyond my expectations. This is a 3 wing carbide insert bit and is well worth the money.Just fyi, I have many Magnate bits and will continue to support their company. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: Shopsmith PowerPro Headstock - good info

2023-11-23 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Mac, I replied to your previous post though I do see you updated the subject. Yes the new machines are indeed nice and provide improvements over the older units.If I was starting all over from scratch ….maybe. For now, I intend to keep an eye out for a used power pro to show up for sale at a reduced cost. My tool budget is not what it once as and the misses is getting wise to the addition.“Hello, my name is Jeff. I am a tooloholic and it’s been seven days, I mean two days, since my last purchase.” LolEnjoy the time with family and friends this weekend. 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 23, 2023, at 1:02 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:For any Group member that owns a Shopsmith (and a lot of us do) - this is Great info about their latest headstock upgrade.
In a post earlier last night, I mentioned the "new" Touchscreen Control Panel they came out with a few months ago.
 
Here's a link to all the info you may want to be aware of:   SS PowerPro Touchscreen Headstock
 
Jeff - for sure you ought to look it over - as it will most likely now meet your needs.
 
Happy Thanksgiving!
Mac


-Original Message-From: Sent: Nov 22, 2023 11:11 PMTo: Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 
Good stuff



Kind Regards,
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell







On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:19 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:


Jeff,
 
For "Speed Range" on your Shopsmith - check out the relatively "new" PowerPro Headstock and perhaps even the Touch Screen control pad they came out with earlier this year.  Both versions are a significant improvement over the previous belt-driven headstocks.  Additionally they both will run on 120v or 220v - with you only needing to swap out the plug; the electronics make the adjustment internally.  And when you go the 220v route - you supposedly get a full 2HP!  Sooo - you will get both speed and power improvements.
 
Let us know which route you go - the original PowerPro Conversion or the most recent TouchScreen PowerPro.
 
Mac


-Original Message-From: Sent: Nov 22, 2023 6:09 PMTo: Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 
Same request if you were willing.
 
I do have a couple shopsmiths but have been looking for a used super shop for the extra capability. ( speed range and strength ) 
 
Cutting nested bowls is also of an interest as those jigs can get quite pricey. ( woodcut, Oneway, etc) 
 
It would be neat to see what you come up with. 
 
Jeff from Connecticut
On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:43 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:



That sounds extraordinarily interesting Dan please post me an email or 2 from time to time as you do it I would like to see what you come up with
bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 
Bill

 From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.comSent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:03 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 

You may not be hearing from me for a bit because I'm working on building some


long sought after lathe jigs.  In another kind of serendipity, I have dreamed up a


design unique to Supershops for a jig that will turn accurate spheres and hollows


 and cut nested bowls from a blank. It's a metal working challenge outside the


scope of this forum. 


Later


DanK

On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:



Good to hear about your healing, Bill.  I think the bone turnings Curt has done


look fine.  I tend to prefer smaller checkering diamonds on things, but it's


purely a preference thing.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and most


beholders appreciate the thought and touch of a master more than the


"correctness" of design, which tends to be a ghostly holy grail.


 


Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm grateful to have become acquainted


with at least some of this group.


DanK

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:38:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:



Glad to hear your feeling better Bill. 


 



Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:30 AM  wrote:









Me too guys I don’t think I will be back in the shop till after Christmas the way I’m going so 
So busy right now catching up my leg is finally healing properly now so I’m up and around again
 
Bill

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 2:07 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 

Hey Curt,

 


They still look pretty cool though. I agree the diamond pattern is slightly large for the handle


but still looks great. Keep the inspiration going Curt. 


I did put my rotary table on my Revo last night so my heart is in the right place. We are


just busy with pre-chri

Re: Bone turning Nov

2023-11-23 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the nudge, I have seen this upgrade but the almost $3000 cost always scares me away. I can pick up used shop smith machines or accessories locally for a couple hundred dollars. Every once in a while a Super Shop turns up for a bit more but it just hasn’t worked out “yet.”Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2023, at 10:19 PM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Jeff,
 
For "Speed Range" on your Shopsmith - check out the relatively "new" PowerPro Headstock and perhaps even the Touch Screen control pad they came out with earlier this year.  Both versions are a significant improvement over the previous belt-driven headstocks.  Additionally they both will run on 120v or 220v - with you only needing to swap out the plug; the electronics make the adjustment internally.  And when you go the 220v route - you supposedly get a full 2HP!  Sooo - you will get both speed and power improvements.
 
Let us know which route you go - the original PowerPro Conversion or the most recent TouchScreen PowerPro.
 
Mac


-Original Message-From: Sent: Nov 22, 2023 6:09 PMTo: Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 
Same request if you were willing.
 
I do have a couple shopsmiths but have been looking for a used super shop for the extra capability. ( speed range and strength ) 
 
Cutting nested bowls is also of an interest as those jigs can get quite pricey. ( woodcut, Oneway, etc) 
 
It would be neat to see what you come up with. 
 
Jeff from Connecticut
On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:43 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:



That sounds extraordinarily interesting Dan please post me an email or 2 from time to time as you do it I would like to see what you come up with
bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 
Bill

 From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.comSent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:03 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 

You may not be hearing from me for a bit because I'm working on building some


long sought after lathe jigs.  In another kind of serendipity, I have dreamed up a


design unique to Supershops for a jig that will turn accurate spheres and hollows


 and cut nested bowls from a blank. It's a metal working challenge outside the


scope of this forum. 


Later


DanK

On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:



Good to hear about your healing, Bill.  I think the bone turnings Curt has done


look fine.  I tend to prefer smaller checkering diamonds on things, but it's


purely a preference thing.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and most


beholders appreciate the thought and touch of a master more than the


"correctness" of design, which tends to be a ghostly holy grail.


 


Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm grateful to have become acquainted


with at least some of this group.


DanK

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:38:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:



Glad to hear your feeling better Bill. 


 



Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:30 AM  wrote:









Me too guys I don’t think I will be back in the shop till after Christmas the way I’m going so 
So busy right now catching up my leg is finally healing properly now so I’m up and around again
 
Bill

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 2:07 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Bone turning Nov
 

Hey Curt,

 


They still look pretty cool though. I agree the diamond pattern is slightly large for the handle


but still looks great. Keep the inspiration going Curt. 


I did put my rotary table on my Revo last night so my heart is in the right place. We are


just busy with pre-christmas orders. so my play time is very limited.


 



Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler








On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:





Hello Everyone.


Started working with bone again today. 


I made 3 handles.


I have been playing around with new designs/shapes and patterns, to see what looks good, and find new possibility's that will work with what I am doing.


 


The checkered handle is one of my favorite templates, but up until now checkering I've not done, The size of the checkering to the spindle, looks to big, as least It is not what I was hoping for, Perhaps, I should have gone smaller?


The other two are nice, but perhaps a little on the thin side. 


Its all part of the learning curve here.


If anyone has any idea, on designs and or detail elements, Please let me know.


 


Have a good day everyone.


C.A.G.






















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Re: Bone turning Nov

2023-11-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
Same request if you were willing.I do have a couple shopsmiths but have been looking for a used super shop for the extra capability. ( speed range and strength ) Cutting nested bowls is also of an interest as those jigs can get quite pricey. ( woodcut, Oneway, etc) It would be neat to see what you come up with. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 22, 2023, at 4:43 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:That sounds extraordinarily interesting Dan please post me an email or 2 from time to time as you do it I would like to see what you come up withbulke...@mmnet.com.au  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.comSent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:03 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov You may not be hearing from me for a bit because I'm working on building some long sought after lathe jigs.  In another kind of serendipity, I have dreamed up adesign unique to Supershops for a jig that will turn accurate spheres and hollows and cut nested bowls from a blank. It's a metal working challenge outside the scope of this forum.  LaterDanK On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:Good to hear about your healing, Bill.  I think the bone turnings Curt has done look fine.  I tend to prefer smaller checkering diamonds on things, but it's purely a preference thing.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and most beholders appreciate the thought and touch of a master more than the "correctness" of design, which tends to be a ghostly holy grail.  Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm grateful to have become acquaintedwith at least some of this group.DanK On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:38:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:Glad to hear your feeling better Bill. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:30 AM  wrote:Me too guys I don’t think I will be back in the shop till after Christmas the way I’m going so So busy right now catching up my leg is finally healing properly now so I’m up and around again Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 2:07 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Bone turning Nov Hey Curt, They still look pretty cool though. I agree the diamond pattern is slightly large for the handlebut still looks great. Keep the inspiration going Curt. I did put my rotary table on my Revo last night so my heart is in the right place. We arejust busy with pre-christmas orders. so my play time is very limited.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Started working with bone again today. I made 3 handles.I have been playing around with new designs/shapes and patterns, to see what looks good, and find new possibility's that will work with what I am doing. The checkered handle is one of my favorite templates, but up until now checkering I've not done, The size of the checkering to the spindle, looks to big, as least It is not what I was hoping for, Perhaps, I should have gone smaller?The other two are nice, but perhaps a little on the thin side. Its all part of the learning curve here.If anyone has any idea, on designs and or detail elements, Please let me know. Have a good day everyone. C.A.G.   -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/886200781.3312267.1700520249510%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEmq5X1YyXEqdD1eoqPYa7Lnb6Spv-SnbEghRobgCe0dw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000c01da1c44%2423993d10%246acbb730%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-o

Re: Part to identify.

2023-11-20 Thread Jeff Richmond
Maybe this is a user group challenge for November, lol. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 20, 2023, at 6:54 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Will just have to keep digging and yes I will send a pic to Cindy this morning and see if we can identify them. The suspense is killing me Bill. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 10:26 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Yea I’m stumped on this one those threaded holes is the key what part of the legacy do they line up with/. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, November 20, 2023 2:45 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Part to identify. Yeah I'll be honest I thought for sure you'd know with having a revo for so many years. I had them out with my misc parts of which I had about 4 mills dismantled by now so I am not 100 percent which mill they were from. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 9:13 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Do it Tim ask her I have looked all over my shop and all my legacy pics and about half of my videos and cant find it. what mill did they come with?Yet these brackets are familiar with me I know I have seen them somewhere before this is most frustrating  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, November 20, 2023 12:17 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Part to identify. yeah no shortage of parts for sure. I will find out what it is even if I have to ask Cindy. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 4:48 PM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:I did but wasn’t sure if possibly it was just a piece of the set or maybe Legacy released it later on for the Revo or another model.  You sure have a stable of machines and parts, lolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks Jeff, Did you look at the first pic I sent yesterday?Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:32 PM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:The Revo had some accessories that were used in conjunction with the vertical vise. Possibly parts of these?   Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Here are the actual Vertical Vise brackets to use to mount it to the Horizontal vise. So the brackets I am trying to identify are much smaller. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:11 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:I looked as well, sadly I was not able to find any good photo's of the Vertical vice. I remember it being Big, with some 6 rails holding the part in-between the Legacy rails.  All the photos that I can find are the same, Only form the top face, I can see a 90 deg. bracket going over the center support, but that's it. Perhaps tomorrow someone will find something more on this? But as for me, Im going to go to bed now. Have a good night.talk to you and everyone here, tomorrow. C.A.G.  On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 12:51:20 AM EST, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   That was my thoughts curt but I cant find a pic to confirm it Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 4:27 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Part to identify. Woops! I meant Vertical vice.Or parts for the Z axis? C.A.G.  On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 05:11:44 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:   Can anyone tell me what these are?  Tim-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLFhVOrkqNu_8dcPMw676yQfrV9uuVSVLtT72Jj118U9QA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: Part to identify.

2023-11-19 Thread Jeff Richmond
I did but wasn’t sure if possibly it was just a piece of the set or maybe Legacy released it later on for the Revo or another model. You sure have a stable of machines and parts, lolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Thanks Jeff,Did you look at the first pic I sent yesterday?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:32 PM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:The Revo had some accessories that were used in conjunction with the vertical vise. Possibly parts of these?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Here are the actual Vertical Vise brackets to use to mount it to the Horizontal vise. So the brackets I am trying to identify are much smaller. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:11 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I looked as well, sadly I was not able to find any good photo's of the Vertical vice.I remember it being Big, with some 6 rails holding the part in-between the Legacy rails.  All the photos that I can find are the same, Only form the top face, I can see a 90 deg. bracket going over the center support, but that's it. Perhaps tomorrow someone will find something more on this?But as for me, Im going to go to bed now.Have a good night.talk to you and everyone here, tomorrow.C.A.G. 





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That was my thoughts curt but I cant find a pic to confirm it  Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 4:27 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Part to identify.  Woops! I meant Vertical vice.Or parts for the Z axis?  C.A.G.    On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 05:11:44 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:     Can anyone tell me what these are?   Tim-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLFhVOrkqNu_8dcPMw676yQfrV9uuVSVLtT72Jj118U9QA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1054609076.2959956.1700371644842%40mail.yahoo.com.

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Re: Quicky Christmas present

2023-11-11 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice work Curt, definitely an improvement over the original purchase 👍Jeff from connect Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 10, 2023, at 7:59 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I have the day off form work, So I have started making Christmas presents again.For those older (long term) members, you should remember that a few years back I made 64 magnifying glasses. (I don't plan to make that many this year, but I do plan to make a few, Here is the first one of the season.) These glasses are cheap to buy, under $3.00 at the local hardware store. they have plastic handles.I remove to handle and then use the metal shank (?)(for no better words? The metal part that hold the glass to the handle.) I put it in a wood block and then used that part in my tail rest to center the part/handle, then I turn it on the my lathe and then finish it off on my Legacy."Well" here is what I made today.any question or comments are, as always Welcome.C.A.G.



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Re: LOM PARTS LEFT TO SELL

2023-11-02 Thread Jeff Richmond
AgreedJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 2, 2023, at 5:31 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Well done on the design kit Nat extremely handy tool to have saves on timber draw what you want first before you cutOld school pre computer technology  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nathaniel BaconSent: Friday, November 3, 2023 6:39 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: LOM PARTS LEFT TO SELL Thursday, November 2, 2023 @ 12:35 pm PDTTim:Thanks for the cooperation on the tailstock.Also thanks, for the general mail on parts available with pictures.Please add to my order the plastic bag of router bit templates.  I’ll trust you’ll set a fair price. PS: are there any LOM parts that you are needing?VR, NatNathaniel Bacon513 Garwood CourtVacaville, CA 95687Email: natba...@hotmail.com On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 12:15 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good morning all,  I have several parts left from this LOM I recently parted out. Anyone looking for something else from this mill please private email me and we can work out something with you. Make me an offer and I am sure we can work something out. Many thanks to all who purchased parts. So the head stock and the tail stock have been spoken for through private emails and will be prepping for shipping soon. So please find the parts available. I still may pick through some of the misc. for personal use as well. I just took pix of everything without sorting. I also still have the router bits and router, and going back and forth weather to keep or sell. Stay tuned on that.   Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLFbr%2B8dSL0TS6PD7XH1euxYjvMb%2BW5rFrx95L7TSP-LRw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CADZ%3DvdAMDLz7HNZj0zLPaM%3DZRnj6DRif7vrftRZHjS4LyBXbnQ%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Legacy 900 for sale in WI

2023-10-26 Thread Jeff Richmond
I noticed the linear molding table but missed the tilting vertical vise. I guess I have to add that to my wish list now, lol. Thanks BillJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 26, 2023, at 6:11 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Very nice mill and I see it comes with one of the rare tilting vertical vice first one I have seen since the one I had that I lost in the fire Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:13 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Legacy 900 for sale in WI https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1571681723364793/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Af8b32298-3c45-4b75-a026-6215f70fa809 Nice Legs. ;-)  (AND a pretty nice machine...) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/367290286.1458055.1698293558550%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: Oct bone disks

2023-10-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
This reminds me of a quote …..“A dream written down with a date becomes a goal……. A goal broken down into steps becomes a plan…..A plan backed by action makes your dream a reality”For my part, I have come to the realization more recently that I have too many dreams (ideas) creating too many plans (projects) with too many steps, with too little action and too little money, lol. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 22, 2023, at 5:04 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Curt, I smiled at never reaching goals.  That has to be very frustrating in the long run.  The guys who try to tackle Mt. Everest do so in planned stages,knowing those stops will be desperately needed, for emotional and physicalreasons.  How I divvy up the checkering goal is an example of celebrating eachplateau with the understanding that the peak is still pending. The refreshmentalso helps with strategic planning details of the next move. Everyone operates differently and one does what works for them. I had a friend who sneaked up on me in a grocery store while I was idly leaningon a cart waiting for my wife in the next aisle.  He slapped me painfully hard on the shoulder blade and in a voice that everyone in the supermarket couldhear shouted "Where're you headed, Dan?"  Totally stunned and shocked I mumbled "I don't know"  He laughed gleefully and said unforgettably, "Well then, how will you know when you get there?"  Memorable.DanKOn Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:35:22 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
Hello JeffYes they are! I am at awe of some of the people in the OT World. I can only hope to one day my skills will be good enough to be able to turn out things like these.On the Flip side, I was taught, Your goals are suppose to be set so high, that you may never be able to reach them, Its the strivingfor that is important, NOT the achieving. ;-)C.A.G.





On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 09:46:48 AM EDT, Jeff Richmond <jtric...@gmail.com> wrote:



Wow, those examples are impressive. 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 22, 2023, at 9:13 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello BrigetteIts nice to hear form you.Yes that is one of my goals to do.  I have saved two jars of dust for that reason.I just have not been able to try it yet.I have never worked much with Epoxies, but I do think it will work, and if so,  Will the glue up, give me the look of the bone or something else?Bone has a very solid feel, and the luster is out of this world! I have a gentleman who made these by using urethane resin   "Boy" would it be nice to be able to works of art like these, one day on my Legacy!  ;-)Thanks' for the kind note, and good ideas.    I hope you are doing well.Looking forward to talking to you more in the near future.Have a good day.C.A.G.<1697979916504blob.jpg>





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Curt, Could you re-use the 'dust'? Mix it with a slow set Zap-a-gap type adhesive?Pour it into a mould, either more discs or into a tube then you have a cylinder to turn without needing to assemble them in sections?Legacy WidowOn Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 00:24, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello everyone.Just finished a batch of bone disk. appx. 100 more today.So despite already having some 8 blanks glued up and ready to go, this batch should help me out this winter. I have some neat new design ideas to work on. ;-)C.A.G.



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Re: Oct bone disks

2023-10-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
Wow, those examples are impressive. 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 22, 2023, at 9:13 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello BrigetteIts nice to hear form you.Yes that is one of my goals to do.  I have saved two jars of dust for that reason.I just have not been able to try it yet.I have never worked much with Epoxies, but I do think it will work, and if so,  Will the glue up, give me the look of the bone or something else?Bone has a very solid feel, and the luster is out of this world! I have a gentleman who made these by using urethane resin   "Boy" would it be nice to be able to works of art like these, one day on my Legacy!  ;-)Thanks' for the kind note, and good ideas.    I hope you are doing well.Looking forward to talking to you more in the near future.Have a good day.C.A.G.<1697979916504blob.jpg>





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Curt, Could you re-use the 'dust'? Mix it with a slow set Zap-a-gap type adhesive?Pour it into a mould, either more discs or into a tube then you have a cylinder to turn without needing to assemble them in sections?Legacy WidowOn Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 00:24, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello everyone.Just finished a batch of bone disk. appx. 100 more today.So despite already having some 8 blanks glued up and ready to go, this batch should help me out this winter. I have some neat new design ideas to work on. ;-)C.A.G.



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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-21 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Curt.I had also reached out to Tim privately. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 21, 2023, at 11:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Sorry Jeff, your message was marked SPAM. (no idea why?) So I am re-posting this to the group/Tim's LOM .C.A.G. Hi Tim, If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone





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Hi Tim, If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Ryan, I have a rotary table as well (with the standard hand crank) but am still looking for a drive shaft if you have one available. New from Legacy the rotary table accessory (hand crank) was about $325 (in 2008). I have seen them out there used from $150 - $200.Jeff from Connecticutjtrichmo...@gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2023, at 9:01 AM, RYAN JURGENS  wrote:Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary table for the LOM?I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have other ways to do what I do on it.RyanSent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on AndroidOn Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com wrote:   I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.  Bill HenryBaltimore  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: LOM Purchase  OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want the small parts guide. Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell    On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Tim,   If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)  I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?  Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGeNWLAwBHAZ6RZ%3Dfuq0tgAp1%2B1rF-05MLWwf_x%2BCBx9Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/8AB2C313-2AD6-4FE6-B8C2-9DA4302529AE%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEdkk4GRvhAMFiomV8ztndLtwhasGVhCxw%3DrBcvHQcYiA%40mail.gmail.com.

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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-15 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Tim, If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: High index count problem solved

2023-10-11 Thread Jeff Richmond
That looks like it, I picked one up last year during a used machine part out but haven’t used it yet.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2023, at 6:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Are you talking about this one curt Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:50 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: High index count problem solved Dan Legacy use to make and sell a large indexing gear with a number of different indexes, at this min. I dont know the counts, but I'm sure you can find it in our archives or form on of the group.  I own the set, but if Im honest with everyone, I do NOT use it.( and have not since I first got it. I normally use Mike's Gear/crank handle indexing method 99% of the time.) Gota get to work now. talk to you and all when I get home. C.A.G. On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:46:54 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:   This is a clever way to multiply the 24 divisions into 72, which is lowfor my goal. I considered somehow extending the existing 24 holeindex, but brick walled.Do you have to take the gear off to wait, it's not a gear.  So this particular gizmo works only on linear cuts?DanK On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:11:43 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:Woops. one more photo. there are 24 index's on this plate, I can adjust the indexing of the plate to modify the pitch. note the three lines running to the center of the plate. by adjusting the knobs on the back I can adapt to or form the first set of indexes.  Note the three notches on the side,those were to adjust indexes for the next set/off set set, and then I could again off set for the thrid set, after that, I would go back to the first set and repeat.Here are all the photo's. C.A.G. On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 09:59:51 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:   Hello Dan. I made a phazing plate a few years back to work on the Legacy. Perhaps something like this would work for you? C.A.G. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 01:52:13 PM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:   Once again the neighbors are astonished as he runs down the road naked shouting "EUREKA"  I really feel kinda dense that it's taken me a day and half concentrated effort to figure out this relatively simple problem.  The light dawned as I was staring at my spindexer wondering how it worked to take 180 holes and convert it to 360.  The answer was developed decades if not centuries ago by a French mathematician named Vernier.  I'm going to assume the reader knows how to use a vernier scale. Here is a picture of what I propose to do.  I'm going to take the standard REVO index gear that already has 24 holes in it, and drill a circle of 72 matching holes (1/8" IIRC) on a 6 1/2" diameter. These are represented in the picture as pink. I already have an index arm that was part of the indexing mod I developed a while ago.  This won't make sense unless you have a similar mod. I'm going to replace that skinny arm with a wider one that will accommodate the 9 vernier holes, which will be drilled on the same radius circle as shown by the sector between the lines.  This effectively subdivides the plate into 720 divisions of 1/2° each.  This opens up a wide range of options useful for the fine checkering patters of the goal. (see Checkering sheet on the Pitch chart attached again.) And it's in my price ball park.    If you don't need or want this, that's OK.  I still want the 2x gears or at least confirm the tooth counts on that duplex.  I haven't considered whether a sprocket conversion will cover the range offered by the 2x gear set.  DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/9ebc78ac-0fd9-44e4-b45a-45adb142487cn%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/683307458.5464852.1697032779796%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/7d36aa56-2741-4137-8436-81a853b21f01n%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscri

Re: New video of design elements (roping on a tapped)

2023-10-09 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for sharing Curt.It looks like you are having fun with your 200 hybrid. Nice. 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2023, at 10:29 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Thank you Bill for posting this for me.I am using my 200. Cutting a rope on a tapper using my angle grinder as the cutting tool.Everything done here could be done on any Legacy modal if the user is cutting form the side of the work piece.   The angle grinder dose a good job removing the wood, But its only one piece of equipment in my tool box.Please let me know what you think?Any comments and suggestions are always welcome.C.A.G. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e45JdyzQ-FE



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Re: A Wood Chuck Video form the past

2023-09-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for sharing 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2023, at 8:47 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:This is a very good video of Mike's Wood Chuck and some of the MOD's that he has made to make his machine do what he wants it to do.There are some very good ideas, and potential Ideas for our members, to help them make there machines work better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tIC.A.G. 



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Re: Power Hacksaw

2023-09-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice feedback 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I have thought about it. It would sure be a useful tool to have. My hands can't take much hand sawing anymore so I will have to see. I have a metal cut off saw but that doesn't work for everything either. Great video for sure.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 8:27 PM  wrote:Neat tool Tim very well made if I didn’t have my metal lathe or shaper to cut it, it would be great to have to save all that hand cuttingAre you going to make one? Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:59 AMTo: LOM Group Subject: Power Hacksaw Check this out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ppnG3WTgNAKind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGTy6Y3j6Afwjevr4UNh-B03CVa-U3QaQSXr4wDij3oWA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Question on design?

2023-09-25 Thread Jeff Richmond
Very interesting 🤔 Thanks for the insight.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 25, 2023, at 9:49 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Well, offering to get Tim out of your dog houseLOL  May I suggest diminishing the large end a little bit but still larger than the small end.  The difference is pretty drastic IMHO.In the world of woodworking, there are some pretty specific design principles that have been developed over the centuries. They are based upon ratios of arbitrary but basic units within the design. In researching old tools, Walker came across a number of these principles in widely different areas of the world. He and a partner condensed them into a book "By Hand And Eye".  I have the book and while it's simple enough to read, it takes a while to get one's head around the concepts.  The pictures are very explanatory.  I've used some of the basic and simple ones and the results were pleasing. One fascinating illustration he developed as part of his research was to make simple samples using different ratios and present them in an interactive "you choose the best look to you".  He found a remarkable consensus that people actually "feel" the difference but cannot "see" the difference, or describe it. His suggestions help find the sweet spot first effort.DanK On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:26:32 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:Nope don't agree with her sorry. Its a handle of sorts they are almost always tapered. Leave as is. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 7:13 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:HelloWork has been crazy busy for me, over the last 3 weeks. So I am very happy that others are taking the advantage of starting there own topics.Dan, I have been very much enjoying your threading topics.Today I found some time to make another bone turning, My wife tells me that I should make this uniformed top and bottom vs what I made that is heaver on the bottom .  What do you guy think?This turning has 18 disks glued together, fluting on of a tapper for the mid section, and beads on the ends.Yesterday I finished another bone processing, I cut up 8 bones and made appx. 100 disks. they are soaking in Hydrogen Peroxide at this time, and should be ready for glue ups in appx. one week.I am taking a photo of the bone blanks that I have on hand, ready to turn. Over the next few weeks/months I should be able to make a lot of new gifts for people.(Santa's workshop/Christmas presents.)Any-How , back to the topic.what do you all think, make the top and bottom the same or leave it as it is?C.A.G.



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Re: Legacy for sale on Face Book Market place. $100.00

2023-09-19 Thread Jeff Richmond
They responded to my request, unfortunately this is local pickup only.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:yeah for sure.would be much cheaper than driving out.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 12:39 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:Looks like a 900 model with the steel stand.It would be nice if they were willing to ship.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 18, 2023, at 10:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Looks nice for the price.C.A.G.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663086512465675/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Abf18fe88-f2b1-4bc6-8c5f-e4b2b077e94e Legacy Woodworking Ornamental Lathe$100Listed 5 days ago in Weston, WV<1695089065472blob.jpg>



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Re: Legacy for sale on Face Book Market place. $100.00

2023-09-18 Thread Jeff Richmond
Looks like a 900 model with the steel stand.It would be nice if they were willing to ship.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 18, 2023, at 10:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Looks nice for the price.C.A.G.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663086512465675/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Abf18fe88-f2b1-4bc6-8c5f-e4b2b077e94e Legacy Woodworking Ornamental Lathe$100Listed 5 days ago in Weston, WV<1695089065472blob.jpg>



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Re: Screen shot of proposed calculator

2023-09-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice 👍 Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2023, at 8:44 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Hi everyone.Here is a screen shot of the ratio and tooth count calculator I've been working on.  You work from lead screw TPI to workpiece TPI.Here's how it works:1. the green areas are data entry.2. the pink areas are calculatedThere are some restrictions on tooth counts that will limit driver choices to a range that will fit on the banjo.  If a tooth count in one cell results in a non-integer count in another cell, it complains and tells you.  Working the matrix from top to bottom, you will have to use some math skills to find factors of numbers to use in the fraction boxes. (see example).  It will allow you to enter other factors if needed, in this example 2 and 6 instead of 3 and 4. It should be easy to feel confident your choices are workable because it will complain if not. Then you can enter (reasonable) tooth counts and the other side of the tooth count will be calculated.  No poke and hope.This is a screen shot.  I will shortly post the working copy if it looks interesting to just one person!DanK



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Re: ROLL CALL!!!

2023-09-15 Thread Jeff Richmond
Pretty sure the 1800 model had aluminum legs like this one whereas the 2000 and 2200 models had a heavy steel base. Nice work on the walking sticks 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2023, at 11:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Looks like a model 2000 mill the monster of the manual mills Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Friday, September 15, 2023 11:44 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ROLL CALL!!! Hey Milt, Looking pretty awesome. Looks like you have to computerized version?Great job on the walking sticks too. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 5:55 PM Milt at home in Texas  wrote:Turning walking sticks, staffs canes.  Using primarily hard rock sugar maple (old gym floor).  Staff is a different wood, not sure of species (ideas).  Having fun after 1800 was down for several years.   Sent from Mail for Windows From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental MillsSent: Friday, August 25, 2023 8:24 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ROLL CALL!!! Hello and Good morning everyone. Just a short note. Thank you all for replying.  Even though you (generic term ,FOR Everyone who this may apply to.) Do not use the Legacy or even woodworking often, this group is/was made for everyone to learn from, So we all can Grow form the experience/correspondence with each other, Ideas and or methods that work for you, just might be the answers that one of our group may need to complete a project or to help them do a better job. Your brain is the most important tool you have. A quote that I like to tell people.    The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the "Artist that makes the Art", Not the tool by its self. Take care. C.A.G. P.S.I have to work two double shifts at work, today and tomorrow, Then/ Sunday I will be  going out of town for the week with my wife. Take care everyone. talk to you all more, when I can. C.A.G. On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 10:40:25 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Hey Ryan, Great to see your still building beds. Will have to chat again sometime. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:00 PM RYAN JURGENS  wrote:Well, I sold mu LOM about three years ago, and now only occasionally see what is up with the group.  When the pandemic hit I was in process of building a very customized Murphy Bed. Well, with the pandemic a huge number of people started working from home and converted their spare bedrooms into office. They did this by having a Murphy Bed installed in their spare bedrooms. Last Saturday I installed my 35th bed. Keep on trucking LOM users! I have a new hobby, and the beds have allowed me to get some super nice equipment. Ryan Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 5:53 PM, Mike Newman wrote:Im still out here also.  Relatively new to the group this year but basically taking the summer off from woodworking due to temps in my non ac workshop and shifting to golf/fishing/etc. On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I think all the members who chimed in are all the members there are, the 500 plus members we are supposed to have I think is false and is a highly exaggerated number.People join the group over the years then move on, pass away or just plain stop looking and all these people are still listed as members I have always said our group needs to have the members post something anything even just a hi twice a year or be removed from the group this would keep a much more accurate number of people in our group.People on the internet click and join everything they see and most don’t come back or keep following.I would much rather have a small number of loyal people who regularly watch our groupThan hundreds we never see again a compulsory  2 posts per year would do this how hard is it to say hello I’m still here every 6 months. Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:56 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ROLL CALL!!! Yes I think it was a great idea Curt. How many responded though compared to the total members? We must still have some silent lurkers. LOL  Anyone else out there? Curt would really like to keep everyone active and in the loop. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 11:27 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hey Everyone. I am very glad to see you all reply to the Rol

Re: LOM in Tyler Minnesota

2023-09-12 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice 👍A bit too pricey for me but it would be fun to use. I search for parts every now and then but need more time in the shop. Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 11, 2023, at 10:22 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/956902408699492/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A3018f3b8-10c8-401d-9362-1e9f5b853b7fKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: New project in the works.

2023-09-11 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, I was able to see it. Thanks BillJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 11, 2023, at 9:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Did the 5 second video of template side cutting come through?or was it too big videos are almost impossible to post due to the very small amount of megs we can post on the group Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 7:51 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: New project in the works. I agree curt the template follower is the most underestimated tool on a legacyWorks best on slow sweeping curves  Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:00 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: New project in the works. Good morning Ed. The template follower is one of the most under used tool on the Legacy, I never really figured out why most people do not use it.At the first I tried to use the template follower when I bought my Legacy 1000ex, I found it hard to adjust and it often slipped when in use. So my first MOD. was to re-make the follower to give it more support and easer adjustment.  (pix's 1&2,) Photo of the Wood Chuck/Legacy template follower, #2 my fist MOD. with the template follower.This new Mod. worked well, but I did not like the template so far away form where I was working form, So I moved it to the front of my machine. as well as giving it even more control, by using a router jig (sold at Rockler woodworking.) Now I still found that I had some problems using this template follower.Problem #1 stiffness of the X axis. It was hard to move the carriage and control the Y axis movement, at the same time.I fixed this in two ways. #1 I added handles on both movements for control, and #2. I found, that I did not need to control the X movement since I had a motor drive, I just let the motor do its thing, so I only needed to control the Y Axis movement, this made things much easer.  NOTE: three photo of my last MOD. done on my 1000ex. NOW How to use the template follower.If you have a motor control it makes life much easer, but it is not nessasary to have in order to use the follower. NOTE: different mind-set.  I own a lathe and use it with the Legacy on different jobs. I find both machines work very well together/better then either machine dose independently.  I LIKE adding details with the Legacy, So a lot of the rough work is done on my lathe. the fine details are done on the Legacy, like roping and fluting/reeding...  For me this is where the template follower works for me. Now I can do everything with the follower if nessasary, but it will take longer and honestly it just dose not give me the look I am always trying to achieve. (fine details/sharp lines/cuts are not there, they are more rounder.) NOW cutting form the side will give you the profile more like a lathe, and using the  template follower will also help you control the movement/shape of the spindle. NOTE: More light cuts will always give you better results over LARGE Cuts, which remove to much material. (Speed vs quality.)   Im sorry I need to stop here.  MORE LATTER. C.A.G. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 09:56:52 AM EDT, Ed Trevillian  wrote:   Yes, Curt. Excellent work ! And Yes. I would.like to see pictures of your follower. I am Very new to this tool.Ed Trevillian On Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.   I am in the process of making a new template follower for my 1000ex. Over the years I've modified my template follower a number of time. Each timelearning and improving the original design.  I state this to the fact that many in the group are new, and have not see the modifications that have been done. (If anyone would like I can post some old photos of these mod.?) But at this time, I will just go over the goals of this new MOD.To start off , my legacy was modified to work on linear rail back in 2020. And my Carriage was also modified to give me a longer depth of cut, over the original Legacy design. Having said thisMy Legacy no longer looks like what most of you all own. Because/due to this MOD, I can no longer use the template follower in the same way as I used to do.My plan it to make the follower work form a table that is in the front of the Legacy (working side, not the back side as originally made.) I find working form the front makes everything more user friendly. Now WHY go through all the troubles in Modifying the template follower for the Legacy, When it is the least used tool on the Legacy?  I find that using the template follower gives the Legacy an ability that most people would only dream of.Giving the Legacy the ability to follow a profile/shape, as well as other design elements that can not be easilydone on other machines. (It dose not make the Legacy into a copy la

Re: fathers day

2023-09-02 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice 👍Thanks for the input.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2023, at 10:55 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Very nice, Bill.  Congratulations!To answer Jeff's question, "is there much difference in the noise?" the answer is YES.  My straight blade planer was a good one with excellent finish, but it howled very loudly at over 120 db.  The new spiral segmented grizzly is less than 60 db cutting cantankerous hardwood. That means that the planer is not as loud as conversational talking which averages 60 db and up. And the quality of cut in difficult pieces is unbeatable.DanKOn Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 7:33:00 AM UTC-4 Jeff Richmond wrote:Nice Bill, I have been meaning to swap over but it  is quite an investment. Sounds like your family truly appreciates you and your craft. Is there much of a noise difference?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2023, at 3:44 AM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Got my father’s day present from my kids early today instead of tomorrow because the courier dropped it off on the wrong day lol great for me I had no idea they were getting this for me.Fully carbide inserts helical spiral so quiet so smooth and no snipe this piece of Tasmanian black hardwood looks like it’s been sanded with 320 grit instead of strait off the thicknesser very impressive machine I will never go make to full length hss blades again Bill



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Re: fathers day

2023-09-02 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice Bill, I have been meaning to swap over but it  is quite an investment. Sounds like your family truly appreciates you and your craft. Is there much of a noise difference?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2023, at 3:44 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Got my father’s day present from my kids early today instead of tomorrow because the courier dropped it off on the wrong day lol great for me I had no idea they were getting this for me.Fully carbide inserts helical spiral so quiet so smooth and no snipe this piece of Tasmanian black hardwood looks like it’s been sanded with 320 grit instead of strait off the thicknesser very impressive machine I will never go make to full length hss blades again Bill



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Re: ROLL CALL!!!

2023-08-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
I am still here, fairly long time Legacy user ( since 2004) but definitely not an old timer with this user group. Happy to be part of it, wish I knew about it sooner and joined sooner. Not an as active poster as I would like to be since shop time is limited and my workshop still needs attention after moving a couple years ago but those users that do share motivate me to keep trying.Keep inspiring us all, Thanks again.Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 24, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Yes I think it was a great idea Curt. How many responded though compared to the total members? We must still have some silent lurkers. LOL Anyone else out there? Curt would really like to keep everyone active and in the loop.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 11:27 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey Everyone.I am very glad to see you all reply to the Roll Call.  Its really nice to see so many names that we have not heard form in a long time.I asked in the very first, Has anyone any idea what happened to Roger (form England, or any of the English LOM members?) It would be so very nice to talk to some old friends why we have not heard form... I hope and pray that everyone is well and making some neat things in there work shops. Talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.





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I’m still here.   From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:46 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ROLL CALL!!!  Hey David glad you are on the mend. I got one of those chest zippers back in 2003. Not a problem since.Happy travels Mike. Sounds like you are having fun.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Steven Jacobs  wrote:Still Lurking!  Thx,  Steve JacobsOn Aug 23, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Tracy Smith  wrote:  I'm here as well. Just lurking. I haven't done too much for the last few years (since covid). I do enjoy seeing the discussions and work being done.  Tracy  On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 6:58 AM Owner  wrote:Yea Craig, the move made me realize I need to consolidate and upgrade my equipment so I’m selling off my Delta DJ-20 8” jointer  and Powermatic 209HH 20 Planer in favor of a 16” Fielder silent cutter head  jointer-planer to create more space. Michael Kratky492 County Rd 113Northville, N.Y. 12134  Res (518) 863-2821Mobile (518) 207-7247  Email;krat...@roadrunner.com        On Aug 20, 2023, at 7:17 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:  Hey there Mike.   I am glad to hear, You are still on this side of the daisies. But WOW, a lot has happened since we last heard form you.   Take care, Be safe and Please let us know how you are doing.  C.A.G.  On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 05:50:18 PM EDT, Owner  wrote:     Hi Everybody.  Still vertical just sold out lock stock and barrel and move to a new location with a 36’ wide X 32’ deep 3 bay work shop where all my equipment is parked; needs insulation, wall board, wiring, heat and AC so I have my work cut out for me not to mention I’m scheduled for both knees to get replaced in 2 1/2 months which will put me down for 6 months to a year depending who you talk to.   Will be looking to rent a place in Florida for the winter to recuperate if anyone reading this has something to rent there.Kind regards, Michael Kratky492 County Rd 113Northville, N.Y. 12134  Res (518) 863-2821Mobile (518) 207-7247  Email;krat...@roadrunner.com        On Aug 19, 2023, at 1:09 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:  Hi guys!   I know its summer Vacation season for most of you.  But I was wondering if anyone has heard form any of our senor members, We have not heard from in quite a while / long time.How about Roger (English Roger) comes to mind...or Michael Kratky? Brigitte? Joe B.?...  I could name more old friends of ours. But I think you all know who you are.It would be nice for everyone to chime in and say hello. (just to let us know you all are OK?)  Mac or Russ, are you guys still lurking around?(HOW about BOB? or David, Charlie?...)(AND the list goes on!) ;-)   Have a good night everyone.  C.A.G.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussio

Re: Has anyone heard for Arkade

2023-08-04 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice work 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 4, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Arkady Paka  wrote:Hello Bill. I don't know how I can  attach foto.чт, 3 серп. 2023, 00:22 користувач   пише:Great to hear from you  Arkade have you been doing any woodwork?Be great to see a project from you no matter what it is Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arkady PakaSent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 3:46 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Has anyone heard for Arkade Hi Curtis and everybody! I'm still alive.ср, 2 серп. 2023, 06:23 користувач 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  пише:Hello Everyone. Its been a while since we have heard form Arkade.As I understand it, He is leaving in Germany now.Tim Z. did the LOM , that the Group bought for him arrive? Im sure others in the group, who knew him would like to know more... C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/878608795.463661.1690950232812%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CANzkk59ob0b6-baVN8JT%2Bdz8CWZh6CbVQ%3DpAOoSbM8gZTHX1gg%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: In the mean time....

2023-07-16 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice work 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 16, 2023, at 6:53 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:These were delivered this weekend.  Old growth American black walnut.  Drilled 4" deep for stemmed flowers and tapered for standard candle.  Test tubes for water holding were late, so will be shipped later. They look especially sharp with the classy glass bobeches in place mimicking the saucer base. Can be seen in western Iowa.    DanKOn Friday, July 7, 2023 at 2:23:33 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:Hey Dan,Excited your working on a project again for sure. Your Pic did not show up. Are you using the single or double gear set between your drive gear and duplex? Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:Here is a prototype candlestick for a set of four matching for my granddaughter.  This is red oak, but the gift set will be American black walnut.  There will be a "saucer" with a carved handle at the edge, you know, the old fashioned ring type. That will give it "stability" both physically and visually. My original intent was that in addition to the standard 7/8" tapered socket, I would drill out for a test tube to allow a couple of flower stems to be inserted instead of a candle. But I'm having trouble finding a tube of 1/2" OD.  It's a set of four because she wanted two left twists and two right twists.  She has a rope candle mold that is right twist, and this would allow her decorating options.  Is this a left hand twist?DanK



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Re: wood lathe

2023-06-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hello Everyone, Just got this reminder in my email this morning. Woodcraft has Powermatic and Jet Equipment discounted right now. They also carry Laguna.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 9:26 AM, Eric Gantner  wrote:Good Morning Bill,I do like my Laguna, a one of the main reasons I picked it was because of its features and price point.  I did have to contact customer service for  a small nut that I lost for light the is attached to my lathe. They send me one quickly no questions asked.  My  friend and mentor has a Oneway  as his main lathe, but has a Laguna and and few others.  I have a hard time with his Oneway because I am not used to it.  Bottom line there are a lot great lathes, but like others said get the biggest you can afford, other wise you might regret it.  VrEric G. Sent from my iPadOn Jun 23, 2023, at 8:59 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Vicmarc and Record power lathes are both on the list to show my friend good lathesBut so far the Laguna and nova lathes have more features on them for the moneyI will be showing these 4 to him soon. Thank you Eric how do you like the Lagunaanything that could be better with it or is it a perfect lathe Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 9:39 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: wood lathe I own an 18-36 and have had for 3+ years, i have had no issues.  This is my first lathe other than a tiny jet.  What about Record lathes? Those look real nice.  I love my 🇦🇺 Australian made gear.  I have 2 Vicmarc chucks and Vermec sphere tool,  both are exceptional quality.Sent from my iPadOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:19 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Has anybody had any experience with a laguna wood lathe I am looking at different brands for a friend and laguna keeps coming up as a very good one looking for opinions Bill  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000501d9a5ab%246ea72a20%244bf57e60%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/B4706CC7-E4D5-4B1A-BB90-4819D1133DFC%40gmail.com.



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Re: wood lathe

2023-06-23 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice 👍 That’s what I want when I grow up, lolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 23, 2023, at 11:13 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:you are exactly right on that Rick. The control is limitless.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:31 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:I would add to Michael’s advice: get a digital lathe. The ability to control the speed from a few revolutions (e.g. for sanding) to full speed without having to stop and manually change bands makes turning so much easier and more enjoyable.RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 10:00, Tim Ziegler  wrote:That's the exact lathe I got. PM4224B Great lathe and yes its a tank, But absolutely everything you'd ever want and need in a lathe. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:32 AM Owner  wrote:Have been turning for 60 years there are more lathes manufactures and models out there than you can count, my advice is to buy the biggest and heaviest  one you can’t afford or you’ll regret it.For me my go to lathe is a Powermatic 4224B could’d be happier as there's nothing it can’t turn big or small it also has a built in vacuum chuck system and indexing. Mass is critical if your turning anything bigger than spindles. Some fellow club members have reported issues with Laguna electronics as has the local Woodcraft that sells them.Have a Jet 1220 VS with stand I’m will to sell for a reasonable price with many accessories I used to take on the road for demos but I no longer do that.
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On Jun 23, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Rick Hutley  wrote:This also rates Laguna in the top picks:  https://www.lathematters.com/best-wood-lathe/RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 09:05, Rick Hutley  wrote:I’ve done wood lathe turning for a number of years - not on a Laguna I’m afraid. However, I can tell you that Laguna have a very good reputation. You might also look at the Powermatic lathes.RickOn Jun 23, 2023, at 07:07, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I have a call turning friend that just bought a Laguna for a replacement lathe. He turns everyday and said it runs super smooth and really likes it. Not sure what model he has but could find out. I'm a Power Matic guy so can only attest to his opinion, and if he likes a tool its got to be pretty good. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:19 AM  wrote:Has anybody had any experience with a laguna wood lathe I am looking at different brands for a friend and laguna keeps coming up as a very good one looking for opinions Bill  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000501d9a5ab%246ea72a20%244bf57e60%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLHVJaNEkGE%3DudkVVMDqdh1JFLropLDcVaXgj5fPNOPeMA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/43224567-189B-460C-864B-B9BF808BF2C6%40gmail.com.



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Re: Shoe Horn Handle on the REVO

2023-06-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice Job Tim 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Curt, you'd asked about the Router I was using on my REVO, here it is, Mac, and any exotic wood guru, I also attached a few pic's of the wood species I used. in the raw so one can get a better look at it.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 9:41 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good evening,Well I thought it was time to turn something of use again so I had a shoe horn kit that has been sitting in my "Kits" drawer long enough. So I turned this on my REVO. 6 start 3/8 pitch spiral. about 9.5 inches long. Species, honestly I have to look it up, so stay tuned. No its not cherry either. Fun little project that will serve me well. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell




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Re: Selling my barely used LOM 1200

2023-06-12 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ditto on that. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:hey Vadim,Sorry you had to let it go but sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do. Thanks for sharing and giving us first opportunity. I wish you the best on your next endeavor. Stay in touch, yes you made a good choice to sell all in one. Please tell him about the LOM groupand maybe we can help him out with advice and direction too. We love to welcome new and upcomingLOM users. Thanks again Vadim.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 4:09 PM Vadim Sidelnikov  wrote:All, Thank you for your interest and encouraging words. I ultimately decided to move forward with the sale and it has been picked up with all of its components.- VadimOn Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 3:51 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:Exactly Bill.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 11:45 PM  wrote:I agree Tim it’s a really good deal I wish I could buy it just for that lovelyBall bearing headstock Bill   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, June 12, 2023 12:30 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Selling my barely used LOM 1200 Not my business, but he's already giving a brand new machine for about a 1/3 of what he paid. That really is a good deal Ken. We drove to Texas from Minnesota for one that I paid almost double that for. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:15 PM Ken  wrote:    Would you be willing to pack up the LOM to ship to Pennsylvania?Would you be able to lower the price to help offset shipping costs.   Thanks, KenOn Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:41:20 PM UTC-4 Vadim Sidelnikov wrote:Hey ya'll, I've decided to sell my LOM 1200 as it is taking up a lot of valuable real estate in my small shop.  I first got it in about February 2022. It had never been assembled and was in original boxes. I assembled it in about October 2022 and have used it a few times, flattening some small slabs, making some spindles and rolling pins, and that's about it. It is simply not getting enough use for my small shop.  Here's a link to a few photos: https://imgur.com/a/LIXn5fs Here's a general list of everything it comes with, plus more: · drive gears o    standard duplex gearo    0.25 duplex gearo    2X Duplex gear · Index Gearso    Standard gearo    2x index gear· Rotary Indexing Table· Rotary Indexing Shaft· Standard carrier tray · Z-Axis Carriage Assembly· X-axis Drive Shaft Handle· Spindle Shaft Handle· Headstock Drive Center· Mounting Hubs x 4· Dust Control Bag· Right and left-hand spiral drive gears· double-locking collar· split nuts x 2· bag of spare parts – L1200· Support plates for raising up and down - (supposed to be 2 sets of each – screw support plate and threaded nut plate, but mine came with 3 support plates and only 1 threaded nut plate. I planned to make out of HDPE but haven’t gotten to it. I’ll throw in The ACME 5/8-4 right-hand thread tap I already got for this $30 value). · Router bits – 18, most never used, can provide list.· Porter Cable 3 ¼ HP Router  The part names are all from the manual available on Legacy Woodworking website:  https://drive.google.com/a/legacywoodworking.com/file/d/1M2eAZDsFz8JK70famI7Ozs_5iSjghKy5/view?usp=drivesdk, so you can download the manual and do a search for each specific part name, if you want.  Price: $1000+shipping (or come pick it up)FOB Alameda, California 94501 If you're interested or have additional questions/need additional pictures, let me know. I have not yet listed it on eBay or craigslist or reached out to any of my local woodworking groups since I wanted to give you all a first chance at it if you want it.  - Vadim-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/64c48786-a729-4887-9dba-8a8a91c801fen%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/l

Re: Selling my barely used LOM 1200

2023-06-07 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Vadim, I am sorry to hear that you are not getting enough use out of the mill but you have come to the right group of people that have the interests to do so. From my perspective, its best to keep the main machine together at that price verses parting it all out into pieces / parts but you may consider selling off some of the optional accessories separately as they are truly independent items.I myself would not mind the rotary indexing shaft or the dust control bag if you are willing to go that route. Thanks for reaching out to the group. Jeff from Connecticutjtrichmo...@gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Vadim Sidelnikov  wrote:Hey ya'll, I've decided to sell my LOM 1200 as it is taking up a lot of valuable real estate in my small shop. I first got it in about February 2022. It had never been assembled and was in original boxes. I assembled it in about October 2022 and have used it a few times, flattening some small slabs, making some spindles and rolling pins, and that's about it. It is simply not getting enough use for my small shop. Here's a link to a few photos: https://imgur.com/a/LIXn5fsHere's a general list of everything it comes with, plus more:·
drive gears 

o   
standard duplex gear

o   
0.25 duplex gear

o   
2X Duplex gear 

·
Index Gears

o   
Standard gear

o   
2x index gear

·
Rotary Indexing Table

·
Rotary Indexing Shaft

·
Standard carrier tray 

·
Z-Axis Carriage Assembly

·
X-axis Drive Shaft Handle

·
Spindle Shaft Handle

·
Headstock Drive Center

·
Mounting Hubs x 4· Dust Control Bag

·
Right and left-hand spiral drive gears

·
double-locking collar

·
split nuts x 2

·
bag of spare parts – L1200

·
Support plates for raising up and down - (supposed
to be 2 sets of each – screw support plate and threaded nut plate, but mine
came with 3 support plates and only 1 threaded nut plate. I planned to make out
of HDPE but haven’t gotten to it. I’ll throw in The ACME 5/8-4 right-hand
thread tap I already got for this $30 value). 

·
Router bits – 18, most never used, can
provide list.

·
Porter Cable 3 ¼ HP Router  The part names are all from the manual available on Legacy Woodworking website:  https://drive.google.com/a/legacywoodworking.com/file/d/1M2eAZDsFz8JK70famI7Ozs_5iSjghKy5/view?usp=drivesdk, so you can download the manual and do a search for each specific part name, if you want. Price: $1000+shipping (or come pick it up)FOB Alameda, California 94501If you're interested or have additional questions/need additional pictures, let me know. I have not yet listed it on eBay or craigslist or reached out to any of my local woodworking groups since I wanted to give you all a first chance at it if you want it. - Vadim



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Re: charcuterie board Groove on LOM

2023-05-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
 Nice Job Tim 👍 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn May 28, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Found a good use of my LOM this week on a job and it worked extremely well. used 2 Rockler hold downs and to LOM mounting hubs to hold it in place. Mounted my stops on the rails to control my length of the groove. I manually controlled the Router and Carriage to minimize burning.As you can see the finished result was good. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: Dog Day's.

2023-05-08 Thread Jeff Richmond
Not really a recycle or repurpose but more of a up-cycle where it has been improved with some customization. Now it’s one of a kind, Nice Job 👍 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Curt,Cheap knife of not it's pretty cool the idea to put bone handle on a old cheap knife  is pretty cool. Nicely done.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, May 8, 2023 at 3:24 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello Everyone.All that I need to do is clean it up with the buffing wheel and I will be done with this project.I spent some time today filing the flutes of one side of this bone handle. Now everything flows together.NOTE: I just noticed that in pix. #10 the guard is on upside down.  Go figure! ;-P Anyhow, this project is the first one of its line. It is for my self and I will have to live with the mistakes.(its all part of the learning.) ;-)It was a Chinese made knife which I bought at a supply house, for under $5.00 each.  As I see it. I could not afford to not try for this price. Any question or comments are as always welcome.Its all part of the Learning experience.Have a good day.C.A.G.





On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 06:58:20 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Looks like your making some very innovative progress there Curt. Thanks for stepping outside the box, by trying something new and thanks for sharing. It looks pretty cool for sure.Watch when you peen those pins so it dont crack and ruin all your hard work. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, May 7, 2023 at 11:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello Guys.the knife is a very cheap one, I have three. I made a stacked leather handle for one a few weeks ago.This time I wanted to try the Legacy.by using a "dog" you can cut and turn thin objects.By taking the old scale/knife handle off and using it as a size modal for what I want to end up with. I then cut a dog out of a piece of cedar wood. Yes I know cedar is to soft to use for a jig under normal work, but my thinking was to make a disposable/ one time jig. ( I had it in my scrap barrel, so why not use it. I can always make more if need be.)I set the bone into the grove that I cut for the scale/knife handle. and used hot melt glue to hold it in place, then taking venal tape/ electrical tape, and re-enforcing the ends so the bone will not come loose. NOTE: the bone is longer then what I need, so It will be cut and sanded to shape, and then mounted onto the knife.The bone that I am using is form a dog bone/dog chew/beef bone, sold at most pet-food stores,  I  set it a-side for this purpose a few months ago.There is some slop in the mounting, I am not sure why, but the tailstock slipped while roping, so the spindle moved some due to this... Bye the way, I used a 1/2" pitch, single start rope . with two router bits, the first one is a 1/8" bull nosed bit, and the other is a 3/4" wide, flat bottomed brick molding bit.   If all goes well, tomorrow I will complete this job. just some cutting to size and hand sanding will be needed.I plan to use both glue and the original pins to hold the bone onto the knife.Have a good night everyone.talk to you all more tomorrow.C.A.G.





On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 11:09:44 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Hey Curt,Yes that is pretty cool for sure. Thanks for sharing all the pix on the process.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, May 7, 2023 at 8:35 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello everyone.Re-working a old/cheap knife, with a new bone handle.This job is not 100% done yet. but this is what I have done so far.I can and will go into more info. latter IF  anyone likes...Please let me know what you think?C.A.G.



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Re: Dog Day's.

2023-05-07 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice, thanks for the in progress photos.Please share your final results.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn May 7, 2023, at 9:35 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello everyone.Re-working a old/cheap knife, with a new bone handle.This job is not 100% done yet. but this is what I have done so far.I can and will go into more info. latter IF  anyone likes...Please let me know what you think?C.A.G.



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Re: Slab Flattening discussions

2023-04-20 Thread Jeff Richmond
I was thinking it looked a bit light duty for the larger / wider slabs but the pricing is attractive compared to other options.If anyone jumps on one of these, please share your feedback.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
 
I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be found via search.
 
Thank you both for the informative input.
 
Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft Elements? 
Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that correctly?
The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.
 
Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
 
Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are what keep us going.
 
Mac

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Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s always out of them.  
 
For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used a flattening sled to take out the twists. 
 
Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that includes both sides.



Michael Kratky



On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Just saw this...



Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
 
C.A.G.
 
https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
 



Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill
SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
$499 USD


               
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Re: Drive motor on my Revo

2023-04-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes got the message. Sorry I have been quiet, just been busy the past couple of weeks at work and then finally this week took some time off to “rest” around the house and knock a couple items off the long overdue “To Do” list.That was the goal anyway 🤷‍♂️Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 14, 2023, at 8:31 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello and Good morning everyone.  Just a question on this posting.  Is everyone receiving these postings?After talking (private e-mail) It was suggested that perhaps many of the others in the group were not seeing everything.So I decided to use Tim's Revo motor posting to double check the settings. Could everyone, Please reply if you do.   a simple YES would do.Thank you.C.A.G.On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well after waiting and putting things off, I finally put the drive motor and controls on to my Revo. Though I will be changing somethings at least nowi have it so I can use it with a drive. Not wild about chain drive but it works until I come up with something else. I still need mounting plates for the micro switches but sure opens up a lot of possibilities with a drive. I now have 4 of my machines with drives. and 2 manual machines. Comments or questions??? Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell




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Re: Home made, Heavy Roping lathe, (Legacy's big cousin)

2023-03-27 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice, I will definitely check that out. Thanks for sharing.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 27, 2023, at 12:13 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNU6yAru-PUThis is a Video form Arte en Torno , Arte is a teacher of wood turning, He dose some Crazy/ Huge turnings, I have been following him for 4 or 5 years now.  I just re-watched this, and thought you all might like to see this as well.He is speaking Spanish but... (Turn the Volume down and just watch.) ;-) What he dose is worth watching.C.A.G.



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Re: Eric 900

2023-02-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Agreed. I picked one up a while back as a package deal with a planer for another $300. I couldn’t say no but moving them can be challenging as they don’t disassemble much smaller.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2023, at 10:47 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Well depending on what your doing they are awfully handy. I have a Safety Speed Cut panel saw that has saved my back many times over. Just slide the plywood in, rather then fight it on a table saw. If the price is right it may be worth it. Especially if you get it as a "2 for" deal. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:06 PM Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill, For sure, as of right now I plan to get it Monday morning.  She is trying to sell me a panel saw, lol😂EricOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 4:23 PM  wrote:Now that you own it perhaps you could post all the pics of it so we can see all of what you have Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Friday, 17 February 2023 2:50 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 You are right there.  So she took 500 for the Wood Chuck.  I just have to get up there.  In the end it might save me a few bucks as long as all the gears are there etc. it appears there is a deep shelf above the machine maybe I luck out and there will be a circle deal up there.  The gent must have been in business, based off the stuff the is selling.  Might find more!  More to follow.  On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:The only way you get good at something is to keep working at it. Biggest thing will be getting the square hole correctly. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 7:18 PM Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill, Great idea.  You asked the right question.  Yes I have tanks/ torch set and a Mig welder, can I weld well I kind have the idea.  My old neighbor gave me a crash course, a year or so ago.  So I think I can do it,  may not look pretty.  I am home all week, I will break out my stuff tomorrow.   Eric  Sent from my iPadOn Feb 15, 2023, at 8:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Do you have any welding skills one would not be that hard to make  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 11:22 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 Tim if you have time please check for a handle?  Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric,  I almost forgot to look to see if I had an extra handle, remind me tomorrow and I will check. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:59 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:I have a 900 too (with a handle) and I use Tim’s approach as well. Rick On Feb 14, 2023, at 21:48, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric, It is slow but still cool you can do both. Many times I use my lathe to round them, sand,  then play on the LOM with all the decore. But over all it does a really good job. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:12 PM Eric Gantner  wrote: I turned on my 900 today, and tried to make round stock.  Coming from a lathe I found it slow, but I am not sure if I was doing it right.  I was moving my sled with the crank and hand turning the wood, because I do not have a handle yet.  Anyway I am still learning so that is always fun!   Sent from my iPad On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:57 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:yup figured that our. Just had to go to the right pix. lol.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 10:04 PM  wrote:What they are is the name of each pic Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 2:29 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 I don't see the names on them for him Bill? Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 8:26 PM  wrote:Ok here are your pics back with their names hope it helps if not just ask  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Re: Eric 900

2023-02-16 Thread Jeff Richmond
Congrats Eric. 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill, For sure, as of right now I plan to get it Monday morning.  She is trying to sell me a panel saw, lol😂EricOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 4:23 PM  wrote:Now that you own it perhaps you could post all the pics of it so we can see all of what you have Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Friday, 17 February 2023 2:50 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 You are right there.  So she took 500 for the Wood Chuck.  I just have to get up there.  In the end it might save me a few bucks as long as all the gears are there etc. it appears there is a deep shelf above the machine maybe I luck out and there will be a circle deal up there.  The gent must have been in business, based off the stuff the is selling.  Might find more!  More to follow.  On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:The only way you get good at something is to keep working at it. Biggest thing will be getting the square hole correctly. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 7:18 PM Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill, Great idea.  You asked the right question.  Yes I have tanks/ torch set and a Mig welder, can I weld well I kind have the idea.  My old neighbor gave me a crash course, a year or so ago.  So I think I can do it,  may not look pretty.  I am home all week, I will break out my stuff tomorrow.   Eric  Sent from my iPadOn Feb 15, 2023, at 8:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Do you have any welding skills one would not be that hard to make  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 11:22 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 Tim if you have time please check for a handle?  Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric,  I almost forgot to look to see if I had an extra handle, remind me tomorrow and I will check. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:59 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:I have a 900 too (with a handle) and I use Tim’s approach as well. Rick On Feb 14, 2023, at 21:48, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric, It is slow but still cool you can do both. Many times I use my lathe to round them, sand,  then play on the LOM with all the decore. But over all it does a really good job. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:12 PM Eric Gantner  wrote: I turned on my 900 today, and tried to make round stock.  Coming from a lathe I found it slow, but I am not sure if I was doing it right.  I was moving my sled with the crank and hand turning the wood, because I do not have a handle yet.  Anyway I am still learning so that is always fun!   Sent from my iPad On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:57 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:yup figured that our. Just had to go to the right pix. lol.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 10:04 PM  wrote:What they are is the name of each pic Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 2:29 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 I don't see the names on them for him Bill? Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 8:26 PM  wrote:Ok here are your pics back with their names hope it helps if not just ask  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Thursday, 9 February 2023 12:06 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Eric 900 Here pics of parts that came with the machine, one I know was posted not too long ago, the duplicator.  The others I am not to sure about, maybe 1  or 2 extra parts.  School me fellas!  Eric GantnerSent from my iPad On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Pix are worth a thousand words  On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 5:40 PM Eric Gantner  wrote:Bill,  Thanks, I will also take pictures of the whole mill. Eric Gantner On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:34 PM 

Re: Wood Chuck usage

2023-02-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
“Learn” off ofJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 11:19 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:gleen off of  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 14 February 2023 2:48 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Wood Chuck usage Thanks Bill, Yeah thanks for the advice on how to hold them. I will need more information from you on that as I washaving a lot of trouble getting it square. so maybe you can share some pics of your thoughts for me to gleen off of lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 9:43 PM  wrote:Rotary cross slide brilliant that exactly the way I would have gone that’s why we own these right Tim 😉 ,perhaps next time double side tape a spigot and chuck it instead of the dogs and hub and start in the middle with the groove and go back and forward might work just a thought .But you found a use for our rotary cross slides apart from square spirals great and even so nice job buddy Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 14 February 2023 2:11 PMTo: LOM Group ; Tim Ziegler Subject: Wood Chuck usage I am doing some tests for a customer and needed to figure out a way of putting grooves in at an angle. So I set up my Wood Chuck with the Angle Table and thought nowhere near perfect here is what I came up with. Using a #40 indexing plate on a 4.25 diameter piece of Red Oak. Along with that I used a  3 flute veining style bit. It does appear that the dogs do not match the old version of the Hub I have on it. But overall my Customer was excited. Thoughts feed back? Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLFv3YkDSc33x%2B8g7jQAPb9AxSPahVmbnhsem4ANCrHSsw%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000d01d94026%2487554e70%2495ffeb50%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLExK90RDbDLvtRPvdG5dCX35%3Df6RV6avmk%2BWCqRge9bng%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Wood Chuck usage

2023-02-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice Job Tim 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2023, at 10:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I am doing some tests for a customer and needed to figure out a way of putting grooves in at an angle. So I set up my Wood Chuck with the Angle Table and thought nowhere near perfect here is what I came up with. Using a #40 indexing plate on a 4.25 diameter piece of Red Oak. Along with that I used a  3 flute veining style bit. It does appear that the dogs do not match the old version of the Hub I have on it. But overall my Customer was excited. Thoughts feed back? Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

2023-02-12 Thread Jeff Richmond
Welcome to the group Nathaniel 👍Jeff from Connecticut Legacy Model 900 - ManualSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2023, at 1:23 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello Nathaniel First off, Thank you. and Welcome to the group.The Legacy is a very good machine but there is a slight learning curve that needs to be understood.I recommend to "PLAY" with your machine a lot before trying to make anything for real.and to use "FREE" wood/ fire wood/scraps/tree clippings... Dont waist good wood on play projects that most likely will not turn out. When I am testing I try to use the same wood over and over, turning it down and then re-working the wood until it can no long be used.The questions on the motors.  The DC motor sold by Legacy is a 90v DC motor, I believe it is a Dayton? The motor is a gear motor( I use a larger motor for my machine, I had to off-set the motor to use it, where Legacy used a coupler and put the motor in line with the acme screw.)  , Max speed is something like 25-40 rpm, (I could be wrong on the rpm? but it is slow.) The DC motor controller is 110ac/90 dc, variable speed, and has a directional gear switch. Two limit switches. IN my book it is a must have tool to make the Legacy work as it was meant to work.The spindle motor dose not need to turn fast (90rpm max.)  ON My Legacy 1000ex I used a pulley and belt set-up. On my 200 I made a set of gears to mate up with the motor.3 phase power is industrial standards, It is not needed to make the Legacy work, but Use what you have/can. I have modified all my tools in the hope to get the most out of them.  I highly recommend to try to make all your tool, uniformed, That is make the set-up you use standardized, so you can switch form one machine to another with out having to use a different set-up each time. It saves time and really helps when things don't quite go as they should, (exp. sanding a part where there was some tare out...)  I have made a number of adaptors that all use Legacy's hub drive set-up.  (I think there drive hubs are the best thing since sliced bread! I use them on ALL my machines including my Shop Smith.) Also (Last note)  when turning multiple parts. use the assembly line concept when possible. Do one thing on every part, and then move on. DO NOT make one piece at a time, over and over like a CNC or an industrial machine would do.  This assembly line concept will make sure every part is the same.I am sorry for the delay of our postings today. I had to approve them before the group could see them.  You should not have any problems posting to the group after today.I hope to talk to you more in the near future.Have a good day.C.A.G.





On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM EST, Nathaniel Bacon  wrote:



Saturday February 11, 2023

To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’m
new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post.  I have been reading many of the various posts and
have gathered a lot of good, important and useful information from them.  I thank all of you.

I’ve
also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot from the oldest
to the newest.

Over
the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used
but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a
brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).   

 I'm
in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the
grooved rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly.

On
the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in
the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings assemblies. 

Even
though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to voice their
comments.  

Curt:

Reference: YouTube.com video: Spindle Drive Modification (131) The Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube.I’m
impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle
drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model
1000. 

 Questions:  

On
the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you
recommend? 

On
the motor controller what brand and size would be best?  

Would
a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? 

Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller to adjust speed,
direction? The SMV frequency controller takes 125±AC input and converts it to 220±v
3-phase.  This system allows for speed and direction control.

Curt:

One
a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years
ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your
shop.  I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts
to your legacy – great job! 

 I
agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without
limits. 

 VR, 

Nathaniel
Bacon 

Email: natba...@hotmail.com / natbac...@

Re: steam saw mill

2023-02-02 Thread Jeff Richmond
Wow, that sure isn’t a one man sawmill.Thanks for sharing.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 1, 2023, at 5:35 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfPCYcnAGI&ab_channel=RuralHeritage some of you might find this interesting I did, it came to me in an email fromsimple woodturnings Bill



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Re: ribbon spiral

2023-01-31 Thread Jeff Richmond
Eric, Would be happy to send some photos if it helps. My 900 is just a manual benchtop model.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 30, 2023, at 7:22 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Eric,Do you have questions on your assembly? Jeff Richmond has a 900 and can help guide you if you need alongwith other questions most of the guys are willing to give and or offer suggestions. Do you have any of the videos for assembly?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 6:06 PM Eric Gantner <chefswoodturn...@gmail.com> wrote:That’s cool, I am still putting my 900 together. Eric G. On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-5 Va Oak wrote:Bill,
Nice - thanks for sharing.
Now how about going back to that one and adding one "ribbon twist" between the one you just made.
Than go back and add one onto that one - creating "stacked twists"?
Mac


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Got a bit of shop time today so I used my new z axis and made a quick ribbon spiral, no how to video sorry
https://www.dropbox.com/s/64wu97rffw9r89r/ribbon%20spiral.mp4?dl=0
 
just a few seconds of it finished. I have a few adjustments to do a finer pitch I think 4 inches instead
of 8 inches  and I will do it on a tapered blank this one was a strait blank.
This is actually my first one of these I always meant to mill one with my first tilting z axis but I never did seem to find the time.
 
Bill
 

 
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Re: ribbon spiral

2023-01-31 Thread Jeff Richmond
They are both pretty cool 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 30, 2023, at 7:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Keep going Eric by the time your up and running we might have the ribbon scroll spiral perfected  and Mac Ribbon twist is something different  this is a ribbon twist  What I’m making is a ribbon scroll spiral People are always getting the 2 mixed up Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric GantnerSent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:07 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: ribbon spiral That’s cool, I am still putting my 900 together.  Eric G. On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-5 Va Oak wrote:Bill,Nice - thanks for sharing.Now how about going back to that one and adding one "ribbon twist" between the one you just made.Than go back and add one onto that one - creating "stacked twists"?Mac-Original Message-From: Sent: Jan 30, 2023 4:06 AMTo: Subject: ribbon spiral Got a bit of shop time today so I used my new z axis and made a quick ribbon spiral, no how to video sorryhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/64wu97rffw9r89r/ribbon%20spiral.mp4?dl=0 just a few seconds of it finished. I have a few adjustments to do a finer pitch I think 4 inches insteadof 8 inches  and I will do it on a tapered blank this one was a strait blank.This is actually my first one of these I always meant to mill one with my first tilting z axis but I never did seem to find the time. Bill  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d93489%24e78e5910%24b6ab0b30%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/78a06536-62a8-4625-b1bb-ddf8c2025cfan%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: z-axis upgrade questions

2023-01-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
Very interesting 🤔 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 22, 2023, at 6:13 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello TomIf you want to buy a nice Z axis. https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Actuator-Ballscrew-Double-Optical/dp/B07RLF9DPL/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RP80OZWOM68K&keywords=z%2Baxis%2Bcarriage%2Brouter&qid=1674428337&sprefix=Z%2Baxis%2Bfor%2Brouter%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-5&th=1Making your own will be cheaper but. "Time is money"https://www.amazon.com/XIAOSHI-SBR20-300mm-SBR20UU-Carriage-3D-Printr/dp/B09L821JB4/ref=sr_1_83?crid=2967Y0W8FSWYJ&keywords=20mm+linear+rail&qid=1674428662&sprefix=20mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-83   You can add a leadscrew or R&P depending. 1/2" or 5/8" Alum, plate can be cut with most woodworking tools ( band saw or table saw.)I wish you luck on this project. C.A.G.





On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 03:48:31 PM EST, Tom  B.C. Canada  wrote:



Thanks to Bill & Curt for those answers.  I'm thinking of changing the z axis on my machine also.  there was a triton at the local pawn shop for sale so I'll have to do more investigation about them and how the z adjustment works.   wow Curt that is a lot of experimentation on your z !   the current version looks really solid.Bill what are the big advantages of the triton over the PC 7539 I have ?   I've been looking for z axis linear guides on Amazon etc but I don't see one big enough and strong enough for a heavy router...most are for small z movement.   thanks for asking Mike. On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:22:14 AM UTC-8 aussiman wrote:I just realised I haven’t posted any pics or video of my new tilting Z axis I better get to and do it its been finished for weeks I don’t even have any pics left on my phone of making it I deleted them all. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Monday, 23 January 2023 1:56 AMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: z-axis upgrade questions Hello Mike. I have no idea on the Z axis as far as switching it form one machine to another. The Main advantage of the Z axis up-grades is depth of cut, true the control of the plunging movement on the Z axis is also a nice . But as I see it, the average plunge router has 3"-4" of movement,  When working with larger pieces of wood the I always seemed to need to adjust the Legacy's rails to reach where I wanted to cut. (it was a very big pain for me to adjust everything, at those times .)  So I decided to make my own Z axis, In stead of buying one.  At this time I'm not sure if it was a good idea or not. But  over the years I have changed my Z axis a few times on my Legacy. I am very happy having the ability to reach 6"-9" for the depth of cut, vs 3"-4" my router could do, has made wooding much easer.I have also found being able to control the movement down to the 1/23" to also be a very big help. I know that Bill LOVES his Triton TRA001 3.25 router. (He has raved over its ability's for many years now.) So that could  be a very good idea for you.   "The bang for the Buck" buying a Triton router would be easer to do then either making or buying a new Z axis for the Legacy.  Its defiantly something to think about.(Here are a few home made versions that I've had on my Legacy.) C.A.G. On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 09:01:46 AM EST, Mike Newman  wrote:   A few questions about the Z-axis upgrade sled with acme screw adjustment.  If I can buy one that is currently on a 900 LOM will it also directly fit my 1200 LOM?  Second question is more personal opinion and only important if the Z-axis can be swapped across machines.  What are the groups thoughts on buying a new Triton TRA001 3.25 router that has the rack/pinon plunge mechanism vs finding and buying a Z-axis upgrade sled to gain more control over z-axis movement.  I think you get more z-axis travel with the sled vs new router, but also get the added weight which might be cumbersome if I am sliding along x or y-axis manually.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/39199bb5-7d2e-4a2d-b761-a77eaac537fdn%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1957401387.257033.1674399351436%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: a mystery

2023-01-22 Thread Jeff Richmond
I agree with being heated but these look like a fancier version of the old school soldering irons use to make leaded stained glass windows. A possibility……My two cents Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 22, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

  
  
I couldn't help myself.  My first impression was
there was enough metal there to be heated and the multiple in
the set would mean the others could stay on the heat until
needed.  That way continuous use could be accomplished.  So the
application was next.  I figured that the shape would lend
nicely to a seam.  So I figured veneer or leather.  Then looking
at the tools in the picture, I realized that there wasn't any
debris or staining anywhere so I figured not a glue
application.  So my next thought was a leather burnishing iron. 
My first application that came to mind was leather like a saddle
or in the old book binding.  Then because of the plane of the
flat surface compared to the handle, I would think there would
be too many areas on a saddle the presser would not be able to
reach.  That settles me square into book binding press and
polisher.  Now you know how my brain works, see if google
agrees.
Mike OK 

On 1/22/2023 11:02 AM, Joseph Greenleaf
  wrote:


  
  There is a way to search for images on Google. https://images.google.com
Searching for the image (which looks like a modern staple
  remover to me, but I'm sure it isn't. Why would you need more
  than one? Anyway, here is the search result:
Joe G.


https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/zkwe2i/a_friend_of_mine_bought_those_things_in_france/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

  
  
  
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  AM 
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Ok
guys a mystery to solve this pic came up when I was
searching the internet for old woodworking tools
I
don’t think they are anything to do with wood, now I
don’t have the answer and its annoying 
I
want to know what the hell they are, 3 sets of 2 and
3 sizes too.
Any
ideas I’m stumped
 
Bill
  

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Re: Copy lathe for sale OKC

2023-01-21 Thread Jeff Richmond
Congrats 👍

Jeff from Connecticut 
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> The copy lathes are sold, thank you everyone who helped spread the word.
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> Mike OK
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Re: STOP THE PRESS, NEW SPLIT NUT

2023-01-19 Thread Jeff Richmond
Awesome, thanks Mike and Cindy, 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2023, at 11:17 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

  
  
Spoke with Cindy today and she sent a drawing of
the split nut.  Here it is for anyone who would like it.  Also
had a link to some Delrin.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_BuyPlastic-2DDelrin-2DAcetal-2DCopolymer-2DPlastic_dp_B08M6GL5J4_ref-3Dsr-5F1-5F1-5Fsspa-3Fcrid-3DW167H062AMGD-26keywords-3DBlack-252BDelrin-26qid-3D1673991547-26sprefix-3Dblack-252Bdelrin-252B-252Caps-252C125-26sr-3D8-2D1-2Dspons-26spLa-3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzS1JRRVA2SUQyMk9SJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjg4NjE1MUI1SUhQWDFIUlVVVSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODEzMTE3M1VGVUlCUTRJRjJJNSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU-26th-3D1&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=EiSmJGnwOotC7uMYII2hfys7Krtpj215bytLA3BUICM&m=WLbg8itsi5LsyJcpmtPfqadu7pagz-HIe0ImQOLk5cg&s=-0eGD1BaqN4DFN2TaxK8AR-iNRoSUDapKZ6fos0ewvU&e=
Mike OK
  
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  Well I finally took the time to make a couple of split nuts from a
  material 
  referred to as HDPE, a self healing white plastic that
actually drills and 
  taps very nicely. 
  I took all my measurements from an other split nut. and cut
to a size the 
  block I'd be using. I marked out and drilled the piece with a
11 mm Brad point
  bit. Then I put in vise and proceeded to tap the ACME thread.
Going back and 
  forth continually cleaning it out. 
  Once I completed that I cut the block in 2 pieces on the
scroll saw. 
  I then marked the hole for the thumb screw and drilled with a
6.5 mm drill bit.
  Tapping then with a 5/16 course thread tap. 
  During the drilling process I used the Rocker pen vise. 
  To trim the Blocks to fit I used the Rockler Small Parts Jig
to hold the block,
  and save the fingers. 
  Overall I am super happy I took the time to make some and
they fit perfect.
  there is NO play in that carriage now. Not sure how long they
will last, but may
  make some with Delrin at some point too. 
  See photos attached.
  
  
  Kind regards,
  
  
  Tim J Ziegler
  Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
  Ziegler Laser Worx
  14171 160th Ave.
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Re: Looking for a better steady rest for the Legacy

2023-01-17 Thread Jeff Richmond
Very interesting Bill, thanks for sharing.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 17, 2023, at 12:44 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 11:56 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Looking for a better steady rest for the Legacy Did you have an image of the WoodChuck steady rest?Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Thanks BillI forgot about the Wood chuck steady.I am thinking Long wheels like a conveyer uses. 18" long wheels on the bottom?  Something to think about... C.A.G.  On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:05:49 PM EST,  wrote:   In my opinion if you go with wheels like on a wood lathe they need to be very wide so spirals always have contact with the workAnd are not bumping over the ridges of the spirals your making and also no 3rd vertical wheel so you can mill strait through overThe steady so one similar to the woodchuck support but simpler and with larger rollers is how I would go . Or sliding v blocks like what I made for my revo mill both good ideas I think see the pics.Just my opinion on thin stock supports and steady’s for the legacy. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 1:05 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Looking for a better steady rest for the Legacy I've been looking for new ideas.  I am looking for A better steady rest for the Legacy.Perhaps something that will either ride on the carriage or possibility of riding in the side rails and to be pushed by the carriage? Side rails would  be nice, since then you would not have any problems with tapered spindles.Self adjusting would also be nice!  So far I have not seen what I want, but though I would pass some idea's along to you guys. What I have works, but I want better.Any and Or all ideas are welcome.Here are some links. Its time to  put on our (collective) thinking caps on. ;-)  C.A.G.  https://www.instructables.com/Steady-Rest-for-Wood-Lathe/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaBNVQw9dI&t=193s  See a copy lathe steady in action... C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1327519218.869916.1673921102048%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d92a28%24e58f1c00%24b0ad5400%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/851934014.1298604.1673928755153%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLHiOKTPs09V7od%2BWVSHX3r1zUan7cdhz%2BVrz3VWE3kbUA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
I came across some HDPE for a very reasonable price. I was hoping to try it for gears but it would be CNC cut instead of laser.We will see how it goes.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 6:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Tim I was told that the name Derlin was a DuPont trade name. and this Acetron was the same stuff but made by another name only.  If you feel the Derlin on my split nut, it feels the same as the Acetron,  If I get a chance I will also use the  UHMW.  It is easer for me to find, (but I have not priced it $$$ wise in many years.)More latter.C.A.G.





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Looks like a lot of properties similar to Delrin Curt. I still think we should try UHMW too, though I want to get some of that stock you have there. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
General InfoKey PropertiesApplicationsTrade NamesAvailable SizesAvailable ColorsSafety Data SheetApplicationsBushings & BearingsConveying / Material Handling ComponentsElectrical ComponentsFood Products / Packaging Machinery ComponentsGearsMedical & Diagnostic Equipment ComponentsMetal Replacement ApplicationsRollersScientific Instrumentation





On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:01:47 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:




Hello Everyone, And Good morning to all. ;-)Mac. Yes the new gears are a heavy 1/4" the old ones were 3/16.Jeff. I'm not really sure why they broke?  I think it could be the plastic and metal meshing, but it also could have been the cold temps in my shop?  Due this Question, I made the second gear to try to find out for sure why?  A third possibility could be, the my mounting of the motor and gear set-up, Perhaps the gears were not set correctly due my my brackets having to much play in it???   ALL That I can say for sure is, What I have now, And that I have a lot more testing to do. PVC is very hard, and it looks to me at this time the hardness also made it a little brittle. I am hoping that this Acrtron GP plastic will hold up?  Bye the way. This is what I found out about this product.https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20ProductsHave a good day everyone.C.A.G.




    
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Thanks for the update Curt.Was the tooth failure between the two pvc gears or between a steel and pvc gear?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 12:32 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone.Sadly the PVC gears that I made last week, started to chip and break. as I was using my machine last night.So this morning, I was able to find a different type of plastic, and I was able to make a new set of Gears that should hold up to the Legacy.The material is called Acetron GP. (Its not cheap to buy, but I was told that it should hold up for my gears that I am making. And it is Laser friendly, So I bought some today.) Here are some photos.Tomorrow I will do some more testing, with both Acetron gears as well as with my Original Legacy gear that I used for my specks. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.





On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 01:16:01 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:



they might be stackable? lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:50 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Tim maybe you could go to a pulley system and hang one or more from the ceiling.LolDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gm

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the update Curt.Was the tooth failure between the two pvc gears or between a steel and pvc gear?Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 12:32 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello Everyone.Sadly the PVC gears that I made last week, started to chip and break. as I was using my machine last night.So this morning, I was able to find a different type of plastic, and I was able to make a new set of Gears that should hold up to the Legacy.The material is called Acetron GP. (Its not cheap to buy, but I was told that it should hold up for my gears that I am making. And it is Laser friendly, So I bought some today.) Here are some photos.Tomorrow I will do some more testing, with both Acetron gears as well as with my Original Legacy gear that I used for my specks. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.





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they might be stackable? lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:50 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Tim maybe you could go to a pulley system and hang one or more from the ceiling.LolDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:That’s one way to do it. I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol)Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the restA drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever else extras come with the big  mill you still would be in front Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears I have been keeping my eyes out. Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds. Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' vi

Re: I'm in the Game!

2023-01-13 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice. 👍 Sooner or later I will get one of those.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:That Chuck should be a VicMarc and are still available with adapter of choice too. Awesome chucks, I have one on my PW4224B lathe. and love it. Heres a link for the VicMarc's https://www.packardwoodworks.com/chuck-fourjaw-vm.htmlEnjoy!Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 2:30 AM Tom  B.C. Canada <gold...@hotmail.com> wrote:Wow, that's a beauty Mike. congrats.  how many inches between the tilting bed rails?Could you post a closer pic of the chuck?thanksTomOn Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 9:28:38 PM UTC-8 aussiman wrote:You can download a manual here on legacys sighthttps://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/manuals/ Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jim RussellSent: Friday, 13 January 2023 2:38 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I'm in the Game! By chance did your purchase include an owner's manual? I have lost mine to hungry rats and need one. If you could send me a copy, it would be deeply appreciated. I would pay you for your time. Let me know.Thank you for your time,Jim RussellVentura, Ca On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 06:42:28 PM PST, Jeff Richmond <jtric...@gmail.com> wrote:   Nice looking machine 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 12, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Mike Newman <mrnew...@outlook.com> wrote:I was successful this week in finding a nice condition LOM 1200 that does not appear to be used much.  2nd owner said he bought it for table legs but then never really used it and needed space in his shop.   Price was right because it only had 1 drive gear.  It has the std index gear set, rotary table, 4 jaw chuck, casters, router.  Cleaned it up and adjusted things to run a test piece of walnut out of my scrap bin.  I threw a bowl bottom bit on it that I already had to round over the piece and then put a faint spiral on it to start to get a feel for the machine.  It ran/crank pretty smooth on the x/y axis.  Z is just the plunge for now, time will tell me if i want to go z-axis hunting in the future.  My DynaGlide showed up today so I'm good there.  Also talked to Cindy at Legacy and she had a set of drive gears on the shelf so they are already headed my way.  Hope to really play this weekend.  Also need to buy a few router bits for rope/barley twists.  I have decent collection of general bits already.  Also will be fabricating my own thin stock support for future use.  This group has been very helpful so far so thanks for that.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ed7dbcdf-607a-4abc-a43f-beac232e3812n%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4F4E877A-BF38-4561-96DB-932471D24CEE%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1803465520.461873.1673581091258%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: I'm in the Game!

2023-01-12 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice looking machine 👍Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 12, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:I was successful this week in finding a nice condition LOM 1200 that does not appear to be used much.  2nd owner said he bought it for table legs but then never really used it and needed space in his shop.   Price was right because it only had 1 drive gear.  It has the std index gear set, rotary table, 4 jaw chuck, casters, router.  Cleaned it up and adjusted things to run a test piece of walnut out of my scrap bin.  I threw a bowl bottom bit on it that I already had to round over the piece and then put a faint spiral on it to start to get a feel for the machine.  It ran/crank pretty smooth on the x/y axis.  Z is just the plunge for now, time will tell me if i want to go z-axis hunting in the future.  My DynaGlide showed up today so I'm good there.  Also talked to Cindy at Legacy and she had a set of drive gears on the shelf so they are already headed my way.  Hope to really play this weekend.  Also need to buy a few router bits for rope/barley twists.  I have decent collection of general bits already.  Also will be fabricating my own thin stock support for future use.  This group has been very helpful so far so thanks for that.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread Jeff Richmond
That’s one way to do it. I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol)Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the restA drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever else extras come with the big  mill you still would be in front Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears I have been keeping my eyes out. Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds. Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM  wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making g

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-11 Thread Jeff Richmond
I have been keeping my eyes out.Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really)Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200 or so pounds.Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. LolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills if you could get one at a good price you would have a setAnd of course have a column making mill too lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. really to bad. I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to play but...Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM  wrote:Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them today it would be double that I bet.I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots ofLegacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very long time he use to post here on the group al the time.I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets and chain I mounted another spindle below the main oneAnd connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets  then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and more on the lower spindleI don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear set?This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for new? How did you come by them?Thanks for posting them BillDensonSent from Denson's iPhone On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set Very complicated gear set Bill From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.167331177

Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-10 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, please. I would be interested in pictures of both.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:49 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s of the gears set please.I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like pics of let me know.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Me too  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff RichmondSent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Plastic gears Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell. Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter. C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com.<200 plastic gear2.JPG><200 plastic gears1.JPG><200 plastic gears3.JPG><200 plastic gears4.JPG>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4117B905-4DE8-4C45-979A-A4F51B75C44C%40gmail.com.



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Re: Plastic gears

2023-01-10 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive for my 200 motor.) This is a proto type of sorts. I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it today on making a handle for a screw driver.and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the day.  So far it looks good, but time will tell.Please let me know what you think?talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.



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Re: old 900

2023-01-06 Thread Jeff Richmond
Looks like an 800 model to me, I have one I picked up cheap for parts, it is similar to my model 900 but a bit narrower and lighter duty on bushings and headstock/tailstock. (earlier generation).Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 6, 2023, at 1:25 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I’m sticking with my last guess as a model 800EXL I really think that’s the one you have Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom B.C. CanadaSent: Friday, 6 January 2023 5:10 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: old 900 On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:09:32 PM UTC-8 Tom B.C. Canada wrote:On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:09:06 PM UTC-8 Tom B.C. Canada wrote:On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-8 Tom B.C. Canada wrote:On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:07:56 PM UTC-8 Tom B.C. Canada wrote:On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:07:01 PM UTC-8 Tom B.C. Canada wrote:I don't think it's a 400 or 500.  the frame rails are 5 feet long.  more pics-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f59b8484-4078-4628-b72f-59cf10a8fdb4n%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: New file handles

2023-01-03 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for sharing Curt. What are you making the templates out of? Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 3, 2023, at 8:09 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello everyone.First day in the shop since before Christmas,Just playing around with my new template follower and my 200 mill.Any question or comments, are as always Welcome.talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.



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Re: Wishing everyone a Very happy New Year.

2023-01-01 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ditto. It’s nice to hear from you Arkady.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2022, at 9:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Arkady, Happy new year from our house to yours too. Awesome to see you post. I wish you peace in your country as well. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:12 PM Arkady Paka  wrote:Happy New Year to all!!!I wish  you all Peace in over the World..Arkady fröm Ukraine. (now from Germany)сб, 31 дек. 2022 г. в 19:52, Tim Ziegler :Hey Steve,Bummer on the freeze wow, not something to be expected in your neck of the woods. Maybe the talk of global warming can be put to a rest now for a while lol Happy & Blessed New year to you as well.  lets hope theres lots of Legacy time in 2023 for you.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:25 AM Steven Jacobs  wrote:Happy New Year all!I was getting spooled up to be more active here as life was starting to slow down. I have a nice Revo and 900 CNC to get going again.That was until the deep freeze bit us while in Florida for the holidays. Pipe burst and ran for 3 days. Repairs are in progress and Border Collie does not like it at the Hampton Inn.. I don’t either really.Just another experience I would rather not have! LOLTo all of you and your family around the world I hope you have a very Happy and Safe New Year!Regards,Steve JacobsBrighton, TN. USAOn Dec 31, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Wishing you a happy new year as well Curt. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:35 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Just wanted to Wish everyone a Happy New Year.I hope (and pray) that This up and coming new year will be aneven better year for Everyone.C.A.G.

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-31 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Max, Sorry to hear about your previous experience with the Woodworking show. I don’t typically think that far ahead or set enough time aside to enjoy a few of those classes ( but always wanted to ) I go there mainly to pick up supplies and see what’s new. I purchased my Legacy 900 after seeing it at the Springfield show back in the early 2000s I am cautiously hopeful that the show next weekend will take place but I will at least stop by Woodcraft that day and gawk at some more tools. LolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2022, at 12:18 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Bill,
 
I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.
 
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠
Mac


-Original Message-From: Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AMTo: Subject: RE: router crafter
 


Mac
 
IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read that  lol
 
Bill
 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter

 

Michael,
Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?
I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 weeks before "kickoff".
They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or
be worth it).
 
After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 months?  Not likely!
There's a competing "Show" -
"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New Year - to all ya'll!Mac


-Original Message-

From: Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AMTo: Subject: Re: router crafter
 

Top of the morningTim,


No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental Mill for that matter.


 


The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.


 


Michael Kratky




On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Did you do much with it Michael?

 



Kind Regards,

 


Timothy J. Ziegler






On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:




I still have the Router Crafter in its ent

Michael Kratky






On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,   wrote:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions


 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make use


of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.


Bill
















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Re: Very Nice Legacy for sale ON E-bay

2022-12-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Agreed, lol.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2022, at 4:53 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:Spoken like a true and wise business man very smart but for us totally obsessedlegacy owners its different lol Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Saturday, 31 December 2022 3:02 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Very Nice Legacy for sale ON E-bay Yep I'm aware of this machine and just not willing to spend that kind of money.  Im working on others that are much better deals than this one.  I always think about re-sale value on these types of purchases to manage the down side risk if I decide to change directions or my direction is changed for me.  Can I exit with a reasonable cost difference that makes it worth it.  If I'm using in a business I can also factor in profit from sales off of it as a part of the equation.  This is more of a hobby purchase so limited revenue in the equation.  May be able to turn some of my ideas into business things but not that far down the road on this one.  When I bought my sawmill years ago when I first retired there was a significant amount of revenue/profit generated by the machine that more than offset its full purchase price and then when I was done I was able to sell it for what I paid which is the best kind of deal.  These LOM's are niche enough machines that there is a limited market for resale/use so I need to be more selective in spending my budget.  My CNC was the similar to the sawmill.  I had it for a year and was able to sell for 95% of purchase price because I had an certain level of machine that appealed to many people looking to upgrade.  I'm in no real hurry, but my nature is to move quickly if I can since the clock never stops on life , right.On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/175468206004?hash=item28dab857b4:g:zWgAAOSw5DNjXB7b&amdata=enc%3AAQAHsFEU%2FitqtW77KkBopE2qcpzg5JlflefvA5FOkYDsxpnzqsLt1QHzCkEME3A6JGSTfl0KzGEC7EbfUvOVNrr2kGyq5%2BzAFOl%2Fj2yKFuE52sflpJx3LFWUYSWgSA%2BD%2BTemacWsj4dXzvIN0qHO%2FEK80a0jMFdPu6oUlh1DX3TwXvyblrTgLy2GNV0erZYI3U858URvSi2dCwdhlUlopTs5%2FrZf54F0%2FdtXWXdvARZ1IE4w%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9rct7msYQ   IN Long Valley, New Jersey, NOW this is an Old Legacy, the steel rails have a lot of play in them, (that's why Legacy went with the Extruded Alum. rails)  But having said that, this machine has everything!  Everything but the price (and if Im honest with my self, That would soon be forgotten, after a few projects were made.) Have a great day. C.A.G . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/3ae80bdd-a8a2-42c9-a13f-a5a2375304a1n%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Michael, I plan to be at the Woodworking Show on that Friday and will stop by to say hi. I don’t need a complete machine but am always interested in Legacy accessories if you are willing to part with any. I left my personal email below.Jeff from Connecticut email: jtrichmo...@gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2022, at 12:20 AM, Owner  wrote:Top of the morningTim,No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods interested in them make me an offer.Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental Mill for that matter.The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
Michael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Did you do much with it Michael?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
Michael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,   wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Jeff Richmond
Just disassemble to help with the transport but take photos of everything first. The manuals are ok but photos sure help too.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:ok but the only thing he was concerned about currently is how long overall the machines for hauling. As he has a suburban. That's why I went out and physically measured my machines. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.model 1000EXS (40" capacity)model 1000EX (60" capacity)model 1000EXL (80" capacity)





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model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)   references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  Bill        From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: router crafter  I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good Legacy. Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a legacy mill.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter Great Video Bill, I actually almost bought one of those one time. I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator buthave never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.  Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEYeJFviUOJkBP51%3DBq7ndpESbPMPc%2BOj9Yu_5dk1bzfA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/49767776-08a4-4137-a7f3-d050fe56f130n%40googlegroups.com.-- You received 

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ah yes, nothing like the smell of sawdust in the morning, lol.Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.model 1000EXS (40" capacity)model 1000EX (60" capacity)model 1000EXL (80" capacity)





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model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)   references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  Bill        From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: router crafter  I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good Legacy. Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a legacy mill.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter Great Video Bill, I actually almost bought one of those one time. I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator buthave never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.  Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

Re: Christmas

2022-12-25 Thread Jeff Richmond
That’s cold, we had 6 yesterday but not -6 Brrr… 🥶 Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:We had a heat wave this morning, was only negative 6 below zero. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 10:39 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Nice 43 degrees in Texas.Merry Christmas to all.DensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Steven Jacobs  wrote:Good morning all from cold NW Florida! Merry Christmas and Gods blessings to all if you and your families!Steve JacobsSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Wow, so enjoy your family time.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 9:39 PM  wrote:Well a pause now after 6 hours of opening presents lol do you believe that 6 hours, turkey is on and cooking Christmas is when weHave it we don’t have thanks giving so we can all sit and talk our Christmas dinner is an evening meal when it’s a little coolerChristmas is a really big deal in my house Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, 25 December 2022 11:49 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Christmas Hey Bill Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year. We as well have company and will open gifts tonight. Merry Christmas to all a good night. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM  wrote:Well everyone its Christmas morning here right now and my family is starting to arrive its present opening timeSo I have to go for a while , so Merry Christmas to everyone and god bless you all, as I see my family coming in the doorI already know I have been.  Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d917d0%24c807a180%245816e480%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGMyZ4Ygmy%3DJ_PBrr-%3D%3DotRotNpZQnmLkHbUp73hfedCA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today

2022-12-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, the distance between centers is typically a foot shorter than the rail length. My 900 has 60” rails but only about 48” between centers.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Mike Newman  wrote:







So we think this is 72in between centers or overall length?  I saw somewhere that the 1000ex is 84”?  Also if you look closely I think the all of the drive gears are handing on a nail on the front lower left of the wood cart.
 


From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2022 8:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today


 


Hello (Good morning everyone!)


Mike your  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5421566931271977 


machine you posted here is one very nice machine. the price is good/fair for a older 1000ex.


If this is something that you can pick up, Then you may have something very nice in-deed.


By the look this machine is made the same year as my Legacy was, the round holes for the leveling, and the plastic bushing. (There is
 nothing wrong with plastic, I just note this due to the latter modals went to ball bearing.)  There is a lot to like with this machine. It is the 72" long by the look of this photo. it was originally sold as a benchtop modal.  It most likely dose not have
 the screw table risers. The seller dose not show any gears, (so that will be a question for him/her that needs to be asked before buying.)  There is a lot to like here.



 Have a great day.


Merry Christmas everyone.


 


C.A.G.
  


 





On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 09:03:46 AM EST, Mike Newman  wrote:



 


 





I already saw both of these ads.  $3000 is not a place I'm willing to go and as was already stated would like to see better pictures/description.  Based on
 what I have seen in roughly 3 weeks or searching say that is way over priced for what is an obsolete machine with a fairly small group that has an interest.  You should probably get a premium if you have everything, but still dont think it is worth that. 
 I send a message to the person in NY earlier this week as basic questions about overall dimensions to see if I can fit it in my Chevy Suburban since it seems to be exactly what I am looking for, but have not received a response yet. 



 


Here is another one I have contacted and I'm still awaiting overall dimensions on it because it actually looks longer than what I would expect a 1000 or 1200
 to be.  Maybe it's an 1000X?


 


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5421566931271977 



 


This one appears to have what I want but if oversized will have to decide to consume that much floor space in my shop.  Price seems pretty good.


 

 


On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 6:23:44 AM UTC-6
jtric...@gmail.com wrote:




Mike if you have any, please send photos of the machine you have been
 looking at. We can offer some tips.





 


If you do reach out to Legacy for drive gears, let us know how it goes. If you strike out there, it is possible that I may have a spare set of the 7 drive gears
 to sell in order to encourage a new user like yourself but I will have to check.


 


Jeff from Connecticut 








Sent from my iPhone






On Dec 24, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:






Yes much better deal for sure and he shows most of whats with the Machine.






Kind Regards,

 


Timothy J. Ziegler


Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty


14171 160th Ave.


Foreston MN 56330


 


320-294-5798 shop


320-630-2243 cell




 


 


On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:10 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Woops! this one is a much better deal, for $1000.00 less.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1240906579823448/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b 


 


Now Im going to bed. ;-)


 


C.A.G.





On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 01:05:21 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote: 


 


 






https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1526347901137052/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b 


 


This mill in NOT Cheap, but it dose look to have everything anyone would need to get started.


I have no first hand info on this. I do wish the owner showed better photo's. Lots of questions still need to be answered, But form the photo's. we know that
 there is a mobility kit. turn/Rotary table. there is a new stile template follower. some router bits and rack.  I can see a ball bearing pillow block on the Y axis. A dust collection shroud. 


Someone put a lot of money into this machine, I would hope that all the gears are there? (at least the basic drive gears and standard gear set.)


 


That's it for now.


 


Nice eye candy!


H

Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today

2022-12-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Understood. I try to stay within a hour drive myself but have gone further on occasion. Keep in mind that most of these machines can be fully disassembled for transport with the exception of the larger 2000 and 2200 models that have welded frames. When broken down, you will still have the length of the rails to deal with but far less of a footprint.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Mike Newman  wrote:I'm not planning on having one shipped.  I have some time and with 319,000 miles on my Suburban already don't mind adding a few more.  My sister lives in Excelsior Mn so may combine it with a trip there to visit her.  I ask the sellers about overall dimensions because I can fit anything up to 8ft(maybe longer if Im flying solo) long directly in my suburban.  If over that then I can hook up my trailer, but would love to not have to tow/tarps this time of year especially if I'm headed north.  Any other info you can share on the machine in WI.  Person said it was approx an hour south of him so sounds like he may be selling father or grandfather machine?  On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 7:53:11 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Hey Mike,Yeah that is one I almost went and got as its only a few hours from me but with Christmas and all going on I decided not now. That one is a much better deal for sure. Not sure if He'd ship, most of mine I've taken road trips for.  Good luck Mike.Oh and don't let the length stop you from buying it. A good chop/miter saw will shorten them up nicely. I Have cut several of the rails. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 7:33 AM Mike Newman  wrote:I already saw both of these ads.  $3000 is not a place I'm willing to go and as was already stated would like to see better pictures/description.  Based on what I have seen in roughly 3 weeks or searching say that is way over priced for what is an obsolete machine with a fairly small group that has an interest.  You should probably get a premium if you have everything, but still dont think it is worth that.  I send a message to the person in NY earlier this week as basic questions about overall dimensions to see if I can fit it in my Chevy Suburban since it seems to be exactly what I am looking for, but have not received a response yet.  Here is another one I have contacted and I'm still awaiting overall dimensions on it because it actually looks longer than what I would expect a 1000 or 1200 to be.  Maybe it's an 1000X?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5421566931271977  This one appears to have what I want but if oversized will have to decide to consume that much floor space in my shop.  Price seems pretty good.On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 6:23:44 AM UTC-6 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:Mike if you have any, please send photos of the machine you have been looking at. We can offer some tips.If you do reach out to Legacy for drive gears, let us know how it goes. If you strike out there, it is possible that I may have a spare set of the 7 drive gears to sell in order to encourage a new user like yourself but I will have to check.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Yes much better deal for sure and he shows most of whats with the Machine.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:10 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Woops! this one is a much better deal, for $1000.00 less.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1240906579823448/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b Now Im going to bed. ;-)C.A.G.





On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 01:05:21 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1526347901137052/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b This mill in NOT Cheap, but it dose look to have everything anyone would need to get started.I have no first hand info on this. I do wish the owner showed better photo's. Lots of questions still need to be answered, But form the photo's. we know that there is a mobility kit. turn/Rotary table. there is a new stile template follower. some router bits and rack.  I can see a ball bearing pillow block on the Y axis. A dust collection shroud. Someone put a lot of money into this machine, I would hope that all the gears are there? (at least the basic drive gears and standard 

Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today

2022-12-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Agreed, I try to stay down around $500 or less for used machines but it depends on what accessories are included. A good 3 1/4 hp plunge router can offset the cost but shipping can be tough too.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Mike Newman  wrote:I already saw both of these ads.  $3000 is not a place I'm willing to go and as was already stated would like to see better pictures/description.  Based on what I have seen in roughly 3 weeks or searching say that is way over priced for what is an obsolete machine with a fairly small group that has an interest.  You should probably get a premium if you have everything, but still dont think it is worth that.  I send a message to the person in NY earlier this week as basic questions about overall dimensions to see if I can fit it in my Chevy Suburban since it seems to be exactly what I am looking for, but have not received a response yet.  Here is another one I have contacted and I'm still awaiting overall dimensions on it because it actually looks longer than what I would expect a 1000 or 1200 to be.  Maybe it's an 1000X?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5421566931271977  This one appears to have what I want but if oversized will have to decide to consume that much floor space in my shop.  Price seems pretty good.On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 6:23:44 AM UTC-6 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:Mike if you have any, please send photos of the machine you have been looking at. We can offer some tips.If you do reach out to Legacy for drive gears, let us know how it goes. If you strike out there, it is possible that I may have a spare set of the 7 drive gears to sell in order to encourage a new user like yourself but I will have to check.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Yes much better deal for sure and he shows most of whats with the Machine.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:10 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Woops! this one is a much better deal, for $1000.00 less.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1240906579823448/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b Now Im going to bed. ;-)C.A.G.





On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 01:05:21 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1526347901137052/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b This mill in NOT Cheap, but it dose look to have everything anyone would need to get started.I have no first hand info on this. I do wish the owner showed better photo's. Lots of questions still need to be answered, But form the photo's. we know that there is a mobility kit. turn/Rotary table. there is a new stile template follower. some router bits and rack.  I can see a ball bearing pillow block on the Y axis. A dust collection shroud. Someone put a lot of money into this machine, I would hope that all the gears are there? (at least the basic drive gears and standard gear set.)That's it for now.Nice eye candy!Have a good night.C.A.G.





On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:19:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Yup good advice Bill. And the more mills the merrier lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 6:05 PM  wrote:Any mill can be made longer with replacement rails and leadscrew its getting it that’s the problemYou may have to buy a couple of mills to get enough to get all you want, some of us obsessed legacy owners have bought severalTo finally get what we want right Tim Z lolAs for the directional gears I doubt very much if you will be able to buy them anywhere unless someone in the group has spares theymight part with but after saying that most mills you buy should have them they came standard with every mill.Keep looking mills come up all the time one that suits your needs will turn up sooner or later. Then you can look at a cheap second one to get parts like we do. Unfortunately now the mills are no longer made its pretty much the only way.If you had the skills you could make your own parts but not many do. Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Saturday, 

Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today

2022-12-24 Thread Jeff Richmond
Mike if you have any, please send photos of the machine you have been looking at. We can offer some tips.If you do reach out to Legacy for drive gears, let us know how it goes. If you strike out there, it is possible that I may have a spare set of the 7 drive gears to sell in order to encourage a new user like yourself but I will have to check.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Yes much better deal for sure and he shows most of whats with the Machine.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:10 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Woops! this one is a much better deal, for $1000.00 less.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1240906579823448/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b Now Im going to bed. ;-)C.A.G.





On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 01:05:21 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1526347901137052/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A30e9b001-9f9e-4b21-8686-98c197bf000b This mill in NOT Cheap, but it dose look to have everything anyone would need to get started.I have no first hand info on this. I do wish the owner showed better photo's. Lots of questions still need to be answered, But form the photo's. we know that there is a mobility kit. turn/Rotary table. there is a new stile template follower. some router bits and rack.  I can see a ball bearing pillow block on the Y axis. A dust collection shroud. Someone put a lot of money into this machine, I would hope that all the gears are there? (at least the basic drive gears and standard gear set.)That's it for now.Nice eye candy!Have a good night.C.A.G.





On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:19:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Yup good advice Bill. And the more mills the merrier lol. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 6:05 PM  wrote:Any mill can be made longer with replacement rails and leadscrew its getting it that’s the problemYou may have to buy a couple of mills to get enough to get all you want, some of us obsessed legacy owners have bought severalTo finally get what we want right Tim Z lolAs for the directional gears I doubt very much if you will be able to buy them anywhere unless someone in the group has spares theymight part with but after saying that most mills you buy should have them they came standard with every mill.Keep looking mills come up all the time one that suits your needs will turn up sooner or later. Then you can look at a cheap second one to get parts like we do. Unfortunately now the mills are no longer made its pretty much the only way.If you had the skills you could make your own parts but not many do. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Saturday, 24 December 2022 1:17 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Newbie saw my first 900 today Thanks for all of the feedback.  this is what i was hoping hear back from the group.  Does anyone know the approx cost for a full set(7) of drive gears?  Does it normally take days/weeks/months to get a set made?  would they also have the reversing double gear set available or is that normally found used?  I would really prefer 72in between centers which I think requires a 1000 or 1200.  I know I can extend the centers on a 900 but I will lose the added working length.  I assume I can flip ends to be able to work full length with the proper indexing method to pick up the design.  On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 5:56:18 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well Welcome MIke, The great thing is what you need to make this a good mill again is some of the Dyna Glide and the gear sets.All can be purchased at Legacy. Talk to Cindy and she will get you on the list for the gears and send you the Dyna Glide. You may request two shipments as the gears take a bit to get made. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:39 PM Mike Newman  wrote:Thanks for including me into the group.  My quick backgrou

Re: New mill listed on facebook in Roseville, MI

2022-12-23 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Mike, To add to what others have mentioned, flexibility and options are always good. I am always trying to pick up another accessory to expand my capability but I have made many things with my manual 900 model. I would suggest that at least a full set of drive gears, the standard gear set, and the RH/LH directional gears would be needed at a minimum to operate the machine. It sounds like the machine you looked at misplaced some of those but I didn’t realize what Tim Z mentioned, that some gears are still offered by Legacy. (Definitely something to consider)Overall, what accessories are needed really depends on what projects you intend to make using the Legacy and with the gears sometimes it’s more about the diameter of the project as the spirals are very different on a pen at 1/2” diameter verses a wood column at 12” diameter. Hence the .25, Standard, 2X, and the rare 4x gear sets. Some accessories like the drive motor are a convenience while others provide functions that could also be performed using other woodworking equipment so those may be less crucial and more of a nice to have.As far as the length between centers beyond 4’, some of the group may have longer rails and a lead screw to offer for sale from used machines picked up along the way that could easily be incorporated into the 900 making it a 1000 or 6’ model. I almost bought some longer rails earlier this year from a user parting out a machine but the shipping cost from California to Connecticut put it out of reach at least for me. My two cents….Welcome to the group!Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 23, 2022, at 7:20 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:All mills should have these drive gears  and the standard gear set  and the right and left hand directional gears   ..  the optional gear sets are the 2x gear set  And the .25 reduction gear set having all these is desirable when looking at a mill to buy .Also the drive motor and the vertical and horizontal vices are handy too    And of coarse the rotary table  all these open the mill to a very great number of different things that can be made on the legacy mill so when looking for a mill I like it to have all or most of these things and there are other mods too but I consider these to be the most desirable one to have. Bill   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Monday, 19 December 2022 10:28 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: New mill listed on facebook in Roseville, MI That looks very interesting to me.  I just looked at a Legacy 900 yesterday in Indiana, but passed on it for now.  Only 1 drive gear and x-axis seemed a little to stiff vs yand z.  It was my time seeing one in person vs watching videos.  Maybe they all feel a little stiff along x-axis?  Are the gears hard(impossible?) to find or have made?  I messaged this ad in Michaigan and got a respone they were selling for a friend that has it in a warehouse.  They wanted my number to talk directly which always bothers me a little so need to decide whether to pursue.  Does the Michgan one in the ad above look like a 900 or 1000?  what do you think about the "Im selling for a friend" response? By the way I am new to the group and trying to find one of these machines to start working with for walking sticks and other items.  I have been woodworking for 20-30 years, but got more serious a few years ago when I semi-retired and started a live edge sawmill and woodworking hobby business.  I have since sold the sawmill but still do the woodworking.  I do still have a chainsaw mill for periodic slabbing if I come across a nice walnut log here locally.  I also had a nice cnc router for about a year, but found it too much computer work and not enough woodworking so when I went back to work this year I decided to sell it.  It was too much money to have sitting in the corner of my shop.  I am in Central Illinois On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:46:54 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Yup Curt, will take it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Tim If you buy it, I will hold onto it for YEARS if need be. ;-) If the Legacy were round then I might have a chance to put it under the Christmas tree BUT   I will ask.  (NOW you've done it. I'm in trouble.  My Wife says NO!!!) ;-p C.A.G. On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:08:32 PM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:   Very tempting Curt, You have room for me around your christmas tree lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Thank you Mike. This looks to be a very good deal.  Roseville is close to my home.  If anyone wants to buy 

Re: Some Christmas ideas/gifts

2022-12-15 Thread Jeff Richmond
Nice explanation 👍Thanks for sharing.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 15, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

  
  
What I do is stand them on the 90º side all next
to each other and glue the birdmouth side.  Lay them flat and
run a piece of duct tape under the edge and leave a tail on the
right side.  Do this for both ends.  Now they will just roll up
the left side and then the right and then push both side
together and flip the Duct tape around to hold things in place. 
Now I use stretch film to wrap 20 layers on both ends.  And then
about every foot or so in the length, I make three or four wraps
of stretch tape to act as a barrier to keep the glue off the
ratchet strap.  I then place a strap at each area of stretch
wrap with a twice around wrap.  Then make sure the ratchet is on
a flat and not a point and cinch them down.  Now I take a dead
blow hammer and beat the snot out of all the joints.  This will
settle any lifts and will true the column up nicely.  
  
I seen in one of the pictures there were block in
the inside.  Those were a resting place for the end caps and had
nothing to do with main assemble gluing.
Mike OK

On 12/15/2022 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler
  wrote:


  
  They are both glued with a slightly
different process Bill so your input was great too. Mike used a
strapping clamp where
as the others were glued using the blocks and
  traditional clamps if I'm seeing it right?

  

  Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330


320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
  

  
  

  
  
  
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:21
  AM 
  wrote:


  

  
Very
nice looks like mike is the man to ask about them 
he
defiantly has more experience than me looking at
these pics
 
Bill
 

  
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills 

Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 4:13 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Christmas ideas/gifts
  

 

  
Hello
Guys!  (Just got home form work.)
  
  
 
  
  
Here
are a few pix. that Mike sent me, a few year
back.  
  
  
Just
to show the scale he was making back then. 
These monsters were and are, Much larger then my
original intent For Christmas gift ideas.  But
like many of the posting on the group, Things
seem to run there OWN course, To where is ends,
No one ever knows. ;-) 
  
  
 
  
  
C.A.G.
  


  

  On
  Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 11:15:57 PM
  EST, M.W.Foscue 
  wrote: 


   


   


  

  
Bill,
Thanks
- the pic saved a thousand words.
It's
clear how he used the "glue blocks".
Cheers!
Mac




  
  
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Message-
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Re: Some Christmas ideas/gifts

2022-12-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Almost, I am hoping for JanuaryJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2022, at 8:07 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:I'm betting so. You getting some time on your machine yet?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 6:56 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:Oh yes, I have a couple of those. Just itching to use them.Magnate sells them too.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2022, at 6:38 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Good advice and thanks for pointing that out Bill. I will have to double check my arsenal of bits to see what I have to make that joint.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 12:20 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Nice idea curt if anyone has a set of birdmouth router bits they are good for making hollow polesLike the old sailors did good for making bird houses you can also cut them on the table saw too  Bill   From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2022 4:06 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Some Christmas ideas/gifts These are "NOT" mine, but ones that I found in Facebook. These are simple enough that any Legacy user could make these bird houses. Just something to think about. C.A.G.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/237412350498504/?multi_permalinks=1137337040506026&ref=share -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1824764268.2970557.1670994366194%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: Some Christmas ideas/gifts

2022-12-14 Thread Jeff Richmond
Oh yes, I have a couple of those. Just itching to use them.Magnate sells them too.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2022, at 6:38 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Good advice and thanks for pointing that out Bill. I will have to double check my arsenal of bits to see what I have to make that joint.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 12:20 AM  wrote:Nice idea curt if anyone has a set of birdmouth router bits they are good for making hollow polesLike the old sailors did good for making bird houses you can also cut them on the table saw too  Bill   From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2022 4:06 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Some Christmas ideas/gifts These are "NOT" mine, but ones that I found in Facebook. These are simple enough that any Legacy user could make these bird houses. Just something to think about. C.A.G.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/237412350498504/?multi_permalinks=1137337040506026&ref=share -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1824764268.2970557.1670994366194%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: Woodmizer has gotten into the lathe making business

2022-12-13 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, these are interesting and have been around for a while now and have a 4’ extension available.I almost purchased a used one last year to attach to my other brand sawmill but it was still quite pricey and the finish is pretty rough.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

  
  
Here's a link to the beginning of the video.
https://youtu.be/9JZvc_8KkxI
I think their market is always going to be the
lumber milling into boards.  They better be careful they don't
pollute their market and cause business failure.  Just seems
like a desperate move to me.
Mike

On 12/13/2022 8:31 AM, Dexter Bland
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  Lathe-Mizer Log Lathe Sawmill Attachment
In Action | Wood-Mizer - YouTube
  Not quite a legacy machine but it can turn your own large
posts. Make them round or up to 8 sided. They just need to
replace the band cutting head with a large router. Kinda cool.
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