Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Joshua Levy]

I use Yahoo mail, and have no problems: I have configured it to send all 
LegacyUG messages to their own mailbox.  When I have time, I go to that 
mailbox, and sort it by subject lines, so I see the subject threads all 
together.  It is then easy to read the threads I care about, delete the ones I 
don't, etc.

Joshua





From: "momalo...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:50:31 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we  get on LUG???  I do keep some 
and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy  Sources, Legacy Locations, Legacy 
Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, Legacy  pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy 
BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy "Ibid", but has  anyone got a good suggestion?   I 
hate to throw or delete anything  good   How do others do this?  The subjectt 
line sure helps!  

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Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[JCTripp]

Sorry, should have asked if Bill needs wireless to unlock and install 
updates easily? Once he updates to 190, he is finished with the Ver 6 
updates.
Jane
- Original Message - 
From: JCTripp
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff


Bill & Phil,
Does Bill need on line access to unlock Deluxe?
Laptop less than 2 years old should have a wireless card. Just wondering if
he needs access to a wireless network.
Maybe at the local library or a bookstore.
Regards, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Husband
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff


Bill, you are allowed to have Deluxe on both computers.  I think that all
you have to do is to find your customer number that came with the deluxe
program and use that on the pc with the standard Legacy.  If I recall
correctly, it should be at the top of the screen, look in Help and enter
your customer # where it asks for it.  Good Luck.
Phil

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Daniels" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

good evening people

I have been using deluxe Legacy 6.0.0190 on my main computer. My son gave
me his old laptop. Its just 1 years old. I have installed thebasic
program .

I tried to restore my back up and the program would not allow me because
its a basic program and I have deluxe installed on the main computer.

What I need help with is to figure out how to install the deluxe on to the
laptop. and install the updates.  thanks


bill daniels




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Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[JCTripp]

Bill & Phil,
Does Bill need on line access to unlock Deluxe?
Laptop less than 2 years old should have a wireless card. Just wondering if 
he needs access to a wireless network.
Maybe at the local library or a bookstore.
Regards, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Husband
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff


Bill, you are allowed to have Deluxe on both computers.  I think that all 
you have to do is to find your customer number that came with the deluxe
program and use that on the pc with the standard Legacy.  If I recall 
correctly, it should be at the top of the screen, look in Help and enter
your customer # where it asks for it.  Good Luck.
Phil

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Daniels" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

good evening people

I have been using deluxe Legacy 6.0.0190 on my main computer. My son gave 
me his old laptop. Its just 1 years old. I have installed thebasic
program .

I tried to restore my back up and the program would not allow me because 
its a basic program and I have deluxe installed on the main computer.

What I need help with is to figure out how to install the deluxe on to the 
laptop. and install the updates.  thanks


bill daniels




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Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[Phil Husband]

Bill, you are allowed to have Deluxe on both computers.  I think that all 
you have to do is to find your customer number that came with the deluxe 
program and use that on the pc with the standard Legacy.  If I recall 
correctly, it should be at the top of the screen, look in Help and enter 
your customer # where it asks for it.  Good Luck.

Phil
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Daniels" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff




good evening people



I have been using deluxe Legacy 6.0.0190 on my main computer. My songave
me his old laptop. Its just 1 years old. I have installed thebasic
program .

I tried to restore my back up and the program would not allow me because 
its a basic program and I have deluxe installed on the main computer.


What I need help with is to figure out how to install the deluxe on to the 
laptop. and install the updates.  thanks



bill daniels








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Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[Bill Daniels]

good evening people



I have been using deluxe Legacy 6.0.0190 on my main computer. My songave 
me his old laptop. Its just 1 years old. I have installed thebasic 
program . 

I tried to restore my back up and the program would not allow me because its a basic program and I have deluxe installed on the main computer. 


What I need help with is to figure out how to install the deluxe on to the 
laptop. and install the updates.  thanks


bill daniels 









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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Gary Templeman]

The point was not to use it as the main storage. It is a backup and should 
never be considered the sole source for important information. If it is 
stolen the information should still be on the primary computer. And as an 
aside, for privacy and safety concerns, financial and other important data 
should be stored in an encrypted and password protected location on the 
drive (and that includes the main computer at home, which people forget can 
also get stolen).


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Sherry/Support" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


Just make sure it never gets lost or stolen and that you have a backup of 
all that data in another location in case the plug fails on the thumb drive, 
the most vulnerable part of the thumb drive.


Personally I'd never "store" anything of any importance on a thumb drive. I 
*always* backup any changed data to the computer in which the drive is 
plugged into before unplugging it.


Thumb drivers were designed to transport data from one computer to another, 
not to be a main storage device.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Mike Fry]

Ann Parsons wrote:

I remember your posting last summer about receiving error 91 and Millennia 
reply that they could not reproduce it. Since so many of us are getting 
error 91 perhaps it isn't we users. I agree Millennia can't fix what they 
cannot reproduce, kind of a Catch 22.


Ken suggested doing normal backup to the hard drive then copying the .zip 
file to a flash drive. Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am 
concerned how good the zip file might be. I have over 30 years of work 
depending on Legacy so I try to cover all my bases. I back up to my C drive, 
to an external Maxtor hard drive, to a flash drive and restore it on a 
different computer.


Ann,
If you're having this much difficulty using Legacy to backup your data, 
then there's really no reason to continue to do so.


All Legacy is doing is creating a STANDARD ZIP file that contains your 
database and a few other odds and sods. You can use any, freely 
available ZIP utility program to achieve exactly the same thing. And, 
even by the smallest chance, Legacy is unable to restore from a ZIP file 
not created by itself, you can always UNZIP the file and then copy the 
files into your \Legacy\Data folder.


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[JLB]

I wouldn't dream of using a flash-drive as primary backup.  If the 
flash-drive broke, was stolen or lost, Mozy went bust and my house 
burned down all on the same day, that *would* be a bad day.

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Sherry/Support wrote:

Just make sure it never gets lost or stolen and that you have a backup of all 
that data in another location in case the plug fails on the thumb drive, the 
most vulnerable part of the thumb drive.

Personally I'd never "store" anything of any importance on a thumb drive. I 
*always* backup any changed data to the computer in which the drive is plugged into 
before unplugging it.

Thumb drivers were designed to transport data from one computer to another, not 
to be a main storage device.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Sherry/Support]

Just make sure it never gets lost or stolen and that you have a backup of all 
that data in another location in case the plug fails on the thumb drive, the 
most vulnerable part of the thumb drive.

Personally I'd never "store" anything of any importance on a thumb drive. I 
*always* backup any changed data to the computer in which the drive is plugged 
into before unplugging it.

Thumb drivers were designed to transport data from one computer to another, not 
to be a main storage device.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.  
Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
JLB
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

Good points and story.  Not only all genealogy files, but financial and 
scanned legal documents, hundreds of passwords, etc all go in my pocket 
when leaving the house.  It's the simplest of habits.  I also back up 
online at Mozy but retrieving *all of it*, should that become necessary, 
would not be instant.  I highly recommend that everyone take a complete 
inventory of all computer files and personal papers, stop assuming and 
*make a plan*. 

For yet another level of backup security, check out 
http://www.jgen.ws/estate.php
-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog




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[LegacyUG] Backups (was: Flash Drive)

[Wendy Howard]

I run my "main" Legacy file on my desk computer, and run a copy of the 
database on the laptop for when I'm out and about.  When I'm out and 
about, any information that I gather manually I type into a document on 
the laptop (I'm a quick typist, and its more readable than my 
handwriting!) which then gets copied to the desk computer and the data 
entered into Legacy there.  I know that any changes I make to my Legacy 
file on the laptop won't be permanent, and the only changes I make are 
either to mark things off the To Do List as I work, or demonstrate to 
someone else how to do something they're having problems with, 'cos I 
know that what I do on the laptop isn't going to "stick" due to that 
file being a copy of my working file.  That's just how I choose to do 
things, and it suits me fine.


When I backup my Legacy file on the desk computer, I back it up directly 
to the laptop - the computers are linked over our wireless network so I 
can do that (don't ask me how - my other half is a software engineer and 
took care of that).  This means that I've always got the latest data on 
the laptop as well.  I got this idea from a post on this list not long 
ago, before that I just used to copy the file over when I was going out 
to do some research.


I also purchased a cute little external hard drive late last year, onto 
which I have backed up both computers.  This lives in my handbag, so in 
theory I always have it with me - and it is very rare that both 
computers *and* my handbag are in the same place at the same time, 
exposing them to equal risk.  (The desk computer lives in my office in 
the sleepout (shed) beside the house.)


This "Memorex traveldrive" is 5" x 3 3/8" x 1/2", or 12.5cm x 8.2cm x 
1.5cm, so doesn't take up much space in my bag; it lives in a zipped 
pocket, so doesn't roll around with other "stuff".  If I remember 
correctly, it cost me NZ$175 at a genealogy expo I went to; that's about 
US$102 or GBP 67 or 76 Euros at today's rates.


And best of all, it holds a whopping 320GB!  That is more than both 
computers combined hold, so I'm not going to fill it up any time soon.  
The drive comes with built-in backup software, which I am choosing to 
use, and after the initial full backup I am now doing incremental ones 
to only pick up what has changed.


Hope this helps someone with backup/file transfer ideas for their own 
system.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[JLB]

Good points and story.  Not only all genealogy files, but financial and 
scanned legal documents, hundreds of passwords, etc all go in my pocket 
when leaving the house.  It's the simplest of habits.  I also back up 
online at Mozy but retrieving *all of it*, should that become necessary, 
would not be instant.  I highly recommend that everyone take a complete 
inventory of all computer files and personal papers, stop assuming and 
*make a plan*. 

For yet another level of backup security, check out 
http://www.jgen.ws/estate.php

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Jackie King wrote:


Gary -

I also carry mine on my keychain. About 18 months ago we were hit with 
a very unexpected flash flood. I happened to be home and the genealogy 
stuff and computer were the first things carried up and out of harms 
way. (I worried about the husband later). But we had no warning - and 
less than 20 minutes to get things up high enough to save them. 
Needless to say we lost a lot of things.


This way I know no matter what, even though hard copies may be gone, 
my genealogy and all my hard work will survive.


I would have been absolutely sick had that happened the last time.

Jackie King

Gary Templeman wrote:
I have mine tethered on my key chain, so it is difficult for me to 
get very far without it. One point that hasn't been discussed is that 
for all the backups people make, the one most often forgotten is the 
off-site backup. Burning and mailing a CD, emailing a file to a 
relative or uploading to a web site are all good, but tend to be less 
regular. The biggest advantage I see for flash drives (and the same 
thing that makes them easier to lose) is their small size. If I am at 
work or otherwise away from home and it burns down, I still have my 
*current* genealogy and other important files with me. Any and all 
backups I have at home will go up in smoke with the main file. 
Portable hard drives are good and I use one for my business, but it 
only goes from work to home and back. I don't carry it around on 
every little errand.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - From: "MICHELLE CROSBY" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


Good Evening from snowy and cold Illinois- please be very careful 
with flash drives- as a supervisor of a computer dept- I have seen
many a customer lose their flash drives or break them or not remove 
them after using them- its always a good idea to have  a portable HD 
to back up your files- and of course old fashion paper.


Shelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[JCTripp]

Dennis,
I found this last night and did try it on both PC and laptop. The blank 
child status did not show up on either PC or laptop. I closed Legacy & 
restarted both computers from a complete shutdown before I looked at the 
Child Status master list. Tried it again on my laptop just now. No show for 
the blank status.
Regards, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status 
error for many many entries


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:57:49 -0600, "JCTripp" 
wrote:

Many Thanks to you guys Ron & Dennis,

One other thing to try is File > File Maintenance > Master List Cleanup 
(after you backup). Clear everything on that screen and then just check
Keep/Restore Original Values for Child Statuses.

-- 

Dennis Kowallek
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[JCTripp]

Ron, Now I can say surprises me too. Then I knew nothing of what I was 
doing to my list. Too bad that didn't stop me.
I managed to delete it from the Master List screen, within the Legacy 
program. If you try to edit this blank status, you receive a pop up Warning 
"The record cannot be edited. It is used by Legacy as a blank record."
Here is the long version of what I saw on my Child status Master list when 
I first started messing with things I should not have messed with.
Many Thanks, Jane Tripp

... when I tried to access the Master list and found a 'white window', then 
the list appeared by scrolling down after about 75 or so blank lines. That 
would be a totally blank window on view, then after scrolling down, about 
75 blank 'fields' but the Child Status and Tag column headers & horizontal 
lines and the Tag boxes were on the screen. That was followed by the list, 
with the fields filled in with the status descriptions, adopted, adopted 
twin etc in alphabetic order. I hope you get the picture as I'm not that 
great with descriptions. Because I saw so many blank fields before the 
list, I deleted away and deleted one too many. At that time, I did not know 
having one blank status was very important. ...

- Original Message - 
From: ronald ferguson
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status 
error for many many entries

The one thing that surprises me, Jane, is that you managed to delete row 0 
without playing around with the file in Access or OpenOffice.org. As with 
your other files, there should have been an absolute refusal by Legacy to 
remove it.

Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Jackie King]

Gary -

I also carry mine on my keychain. About 18 months ago we were hit with a 
very unexpected flash flood. I happened to be home and the genealogy 
stuff and computer were the first things carried up and out of harms 
way. (I worried about the husband later). But we had no warning - and 
less than 20 minutes to get things up high enough to save them. Needless 
to say we lost a lot of things.


This way I know no matter what, even though hard copies may be gone, my 
genealogy and all my hard work will survive.


I would have been absolutely sick had that happened the last time.

Jackie King

Gary Templeman wrote:
I have mine tethered on my key chain, so it is difficult for me to get 
very far without it. One point that hasn't been discussed is that for 
all the backups people make, the one most often forgotten is the 
off-site backup. Burning and mailing a CD, emailing a file to a 
relative or uploading to a web site are all good, but tend to be less 
regular. The biggest advantage I see for flash drives (and the same 
thing that makes them easier to lose) is their small size. If I am at 
work or otherwise away from home and it burns down, I still have my 
*current* genealogy and other important files with me. Any and all 
backups I have at home will go up in smoke with the main file. 
Portable hard drives are good and I use one for my business, but it 
only goes from work to home and back. I don't carry it around on every 
little errand.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - From: "MICHELLE CROSBY" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


Good Evening from snowy and cold Illinois- please be very careful with 
flash drives- as a supervisor of a computer dept- I have seen
many a customer lose their flash drives or break them or not remove 
them after using them- its always a good idea to have  a portable HD 
to back up your files- and of course old fashion paper.


Shelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Gary Templeman]

I have mine tethered on my key chain, so it is difficult for me to get very 
far without it. One point that hasn't been discussed is that for all the 
backups people make, the one most often forgotten is the off-site backup. 
Burning and mailing a CD, emailing a file to a relative or uploading to a 
web site are all good, but tend to be less regular. The biggest advantage I 
see for flash drives (and the same thing that makes them easier to lose) is 
their small size. If I am at work or otherwise away from home and it burns 
down, I still have my *current* genealogy and other important files with me. 
Any and all backups I have at home will go up in smoke with the main file. 
Portable hard drives are good and I use one for my business, but it only 
goes from work to home and back. I don't carry it around on every little 
errand.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "MICHELLE CROSBY" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


Good Evening from snowy and cold Illinois- please be very careful with flash 
drives- as a supervisor of a computer dept- I have seen
many a customer lose their flash drives or break them or not remove them 
after using them- its always a good idea to have  a portable HD to back up 
your files- and of course old fashion paper.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:57:49 -0600, "JCTripp" 
wrote:

>Many Thanks to you guys Ron & Dennis,

One other thing to try is File > File Maintenance > Master List Cleanup
(after you backup). Clear everything on that screen and then just check 
Keep/Restore Original Values for Child Statuses.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[ronald ferguson]

The one thing that surprises me, Jane, is that you managed to delete row 0 
without playing around with the file in Access or OpenOffice.org. As with your 
other files, there should have been an absolute refusal by Legacy to remove it.



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> From: jctr...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status 
> error for many many entries
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:57:49 -0600
>
> Many Thanks to you guys Ron & Dennis,
> I did try a few things again before retiring to bed with a headache.
> I have Legacy on both my old PC and my newer laptop. I uninstalled Legacy
> and the Legacy folder on the PC (With my backup zip files clearly labeled
> on 2 flash drives, the laptop and the PC desktop, I was confident.)
> When I reinstalled Legacy & restored my family file, I realized my problem
> had to be from my back up as the Sample file was fine, but my family file
> was still missing the blank line for child status.
> Then it came to me that several months ago, when I first subscribed to this
> LUG, one poster was having difficulty seeing the Master list of the Child
> Status screen. I had the same problem, but could see the list on a print
> preview. I was messing too much with that Child Status Master list and must
> have deleted the blank line then. I went along my merry way for months and
> transferrd this incomplete Child Status list on my new laptop when I set up
> Legacy with a restore. I was correct in thinking that the Legacy program
> itself could be downloaded from the web at anytime, BUT did not realize
> that any parts of it were contained in my backup. I do know that I'm in a
> bit of trouble now, but would be in a mess of trouble without you folks.
> Dennis, I will take you up on your offer to look at my small file as I have
> used up all my limited computer knowledge trying to figure out the what &
> where and have none left for the fixing.
> Belinda, I see where your question about AWOL items from Master lists was
> answered by Dennis when he explained the cleanup procedure.
> Regards,
> Jane Tripp
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dennis M. Kowallek
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status
> error for many many entries
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:34:57 -0600, "JCTripp" 
> wrote:
>
> I believe this child status error is coming from the fact that I don't have
> a "BLANK LINE" child status.
>
> This is correct. I just tried deleting the "blank line" record in MS Access
> on a test database and received the same error.
>
> The funny thing is check/repair is acting like it fixes the problem, but it
> actually doesn't.
>
> As Ron said, you will need someone who knows there way around MS Access to
> fix the problem for you. I don't think an export of your database to
> either a GEDCOM or another Legacy database will fix it, but there is no
> harm in trying. I didn't try this part myself.
>
> If you want to send me the .fdb file (off list) I can give it a try. It
> doesn't look like a large file.
>
> --
>
> Dennis Kowallek
> http://ltools.kowallekfamily.com/
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[JCTripp]

Belinda,
Well, I know now that the status NONE is the important one that Legacy uses 
for every individual entry, and not just for the Child Status list. You can 
add a child status whenever you need one. I added Triplet and Illegitimate 
among others for my family file.
Regards, Jane Tripp
- Original Message - 
From: Belinda
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:37 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy 
provided list


Jane,

I just tried your and was successful, I was going to do my own but then I 
thought I would give your suggestion a go. There were quite a few
events/facts that were missing and are now back - I used the sample file to 
get them. Don't know how they AWOL in the first place but at least they are 
back now.

What is in the complete Child Status list? - I have in my list "None, 
Stillborn, Twin" is that the complete list or are there others that should
be there as well?

Thanks
Belinda

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of JCTripp
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
provided list

Belinda,
I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list. In 
the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can
try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read 
about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there 
and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read first.
Regards, Jane Tripp 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[JCTripp]

Many Thanks to you guys Ron & Dennis,
I did try a few things again before retiring to bed with a headache.
I have Legacy on both my old PC and my newer laptop.  I uninstalled Legacy 
and the Legacy folder on the PC (With my backup zip files clearly labeled 
on 2 flash drives, the laptop and the PC desktop, I was confident.)
When I reinstalled Legacy & restored my family file, I realized my problem 
had to be from my back up as the Sample file was fine, but my family file 
was still missing the blank line for child status.
Then it came to me that several months ago, when I first subscribed to this 
LUG, one poster was having difficulty seeing the Master list of the Child 
Status screen. I had the same problem, but could see the list on a print 
preview. I was messing too much with that Child Status Master list and must 
have deleted the blank line then. I went along my merry way for months and 
transferrd this incomplete Child Status list on my new laptop when I set up 
Legacy with a restore. I was correct in thinking that the Legacy program 
itself could be downloaded from the web at anytime, BUT did not realize 
that any parts of it were contained in my backup. I do know that I'm in a 
bit of trouble now, but would be in a mess of trouble without you folks.
Dennis, I will take you up on your offer to look at my small file as I have 
used up all my limited computer knowledge trying to figure out the what & 
where and have none left for the fixing.
Belinda, I see where your question about AWOL items from Master lists was 
answered by Dennis when he explained the cleanup procedure.
Regards,
Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status 
error for many many entries


On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:34:57 -0600, "JCTripp" 
wrote:

I believe this child status error is coming from the fact that I don't have 
a "BLANK LINE" child status.

This is correct. I just tried deleting the "blank line" record in MS Access 
on a test database and received the same error.

The funny thing is check/repair is acting like it fixes the problem, but it 
actually doesn't.

As Ron said, you will need someone who knows there way around MS Access to 
fix the problem for you. I don't think an export of your database to
either a GEDCOM or another Legacy database will fix it, but there is no 
harm in trying. I didn't try this part myself.

If you want to send me the .fdb file (off list) I can give it a try. It 
doesn't look like a large file.

-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Sandra Vaneldik]

Hi all,

I also use my flash drive this way. We have an Ancestry subscription at our 
Society library and I save all my finds to my flash drive. That way I can 
crop all the black areas or crop to what I want to keep before printing. 
Saves on ink.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Barb Weed]

Janis and group  I am sorry that I included so much of the extranious messages. 
 I had only read throught the top message and that is the only one that I 
should have included.  But to I did not read all the way down throught the 
other messages.  Please forgive. And yes I do place my multimedia and data 
backups in the same folder.
Barb



- Original Message 
From: Janis L Gilmore 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:36:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

Note that Barb, who has no problem with Error 91 on her 32-bit Vista, backs
up her multimedia files. I wonder if it has to do with whether or not the
box is ticked for backing up multimedia to the same place?

I had some trouble backing up for a while. I ran a couple of check/repairs,
to no avail. I ticked the multimedia box, and no longer have a problem.

Quite possibly coincidental.

Janis Walker Gilmore


On 1/11/09 7:59 AM, "Barb Weed"  wrote:

> Hello,  I have Legacy 7 installed on my Vista Home Edition (32bit not 64bit)
> and it works perfectly.  I also use a flash drive.  All of my data is on the
> flash drive including my multimedia files. 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[Michele Lewis]

I did look at their was no repository associated with these 3 entries, so, I 
made a new repository (the Family History Library in SLC) and the I 
associated the 3 items with that repository.  We shall see if that works.  I 
have never had a respository associated with these 3 things (I don't really 
use the repository thing much other than to signify those items that I 
personally have at my own house).


michele
- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:48 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error



Michele,

Have you looked at these records, as it would seem that you have a reference 
to a repository which is no longer in your records?




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From: cranberryf...@charter.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:23:01 -0500

Whenever I run the check/repair I get the following error. I get this 
exact

same error EVERY time I run the check/repair. I am not sure how to fix
this.


Check/Repair of Legacy Family File: C:\Legacy\Data\Michele's Family.fdb
Date: 01-10-2009
Please check this file very carefully.
It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in
this file.


==
There are 3 Source Repository record(s) referred to that do not exist:
==

Source Name=Marriage Records - MS - Clarke Co - Marriage Book A-B (white
marriages) 1853-1867 (FHL microfilm 890132). The Repository reference has
been removed.

Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Hinds Co - Will Book 1 September Term
1833 (FHL microfilm 878728). The Repository reference has been removed.

Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Jasper Co - Will Book 1, 2nd District
1855-1944. The Repository reference has been removed.



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Review

[Tim Rosenlof]

PLUG: If your happy with Legacy, remember the GenSoftReviews 
http://www.gensoftreviews.com/ Last entry for Legacy was 4 day's ago. The 
website has been around awhile.
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Re: [LegacyUG] blank pages in reports

[Elizabeth]

Oh, many thanks. Yes that's sorted it out.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Dede Holden  wrote:

> Elizabeth,
>
> Take a look at this:
> Reports - Books/Other - Ancestor, then click on the tab that says Page
> Layout.  If you have checked the option to start on an odd page
> number, this may be causing the blank pages.  Not sure this is your
> problem, just a thought.
>
> Welcome to gmail!  I've been using it for quite awhile and it is
> really an efficient way to store/search e-mail.
>
> Dede
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Elizabeth 
> wrote:
> > I have tried to make an Ancestor book for someone and the sources were
> > showing on a second following page.  I then changed the option to show
> them
> > all at the end of the document and now the preview pane shows the same
> > number of pages, each second page (following a generation) is now blank.
>  I
> > think this may have been aired before but I can't find an answer in the
> > archive.
> >
> > Incidentally, I have followed recent advice and this is using my
> > newly-created gmail account! - I am not new to the group.
> >
> > Elizabeth
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?

[Don Varner]

Yes, I see that you are correct.  Thanks for setting me straight.
Don

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> Don Varner wrote
>>
>> Options, General, Program Start UP.  Tick Display Splash Screen During
>> Program Start Up.
>
> The Splash Screen is not the Tips Window.  The Splash Screen is the mainly
> purple and yellow one which says Millennia and Legacy 7.0 Family Tree.
> --
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] blank pages in reports

[Dede Holden]

Elizabeth,

Take a look at this:
Reports - Books/Other - Ancestor, then click on the tab that says Page
Layout.  If you have checked the option to start on an odd page
number, this may be causing the blank pages.  Not sure this is your
problem, just a thought.

Welcome to gmail!  I've been using it for quite awhile and it is
really an efficient way to store/search e-mail.

Dede

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Elizabeth  wrote:
> I have tried to make an Ancestor book for someone and the sources were
> showing on a second following page.  I then changed the option to show them
> all at the end of the document and now the preview pane shows the same
> number of pages, each second page (following a generation) is now blank.  I
> think this may have been aired before but I can't find an answer in the
> archive.
>
> Incidentally, I have followed recent advice and this is using my
> newly-created gmail account! - I am not new to the group.
>
> Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?

[Jenny M Benson]

Don Varner wrote

Options, General, Program Start UP.  Tick Display Splash Screen During
Program Start Up.


The Splash Screen is not the Tips Window.  The Splash Screen is the 
mainly purple and yellow one which says Millennia and Legacy 7.0 Family 
Tree.

--
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[LegacyUG] blank pages in reports

[Elizabeth]

I have tried to make an Ancestor book for someone and the sources were
showing on a second following page.  I then changed the option to show them
all at the end of the document and now the preview pane shows the same
number of pages, each second page (following a generation) is now blank.  I
think this may have been aired before but I can't find an answer in the
archive.

Incidentally, I have followed recent advice and this is using my
newly-created gmail account! - I am not new to the group.

Elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Janis L Gilmore]

Note that Barb, who has no problem with Error 91 on her 32-bit Vista, backs
up her multimedia files. I wonder if it has to do with whether or not the
box is ticked for backing up multimedia to the same place?

I had some trouble backing up for a while. I ran a couple of check/repairs,
to no avail. I ticked the multimedia box, and no longer have a problem.

Quite possibly coincidental.

Janis Walker Gilmore


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> Hello,  I have Legacy 7 installed on my Vista Home Edition (32bit not 64bit)
> and it works perfectly.  I also use a flash drive.  All of my data is on the
> flash drive including my multimedia files. 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Gene Young]

Belinda wrote:

Thanks Ron and Jane,

Ron I was being lazy I suppose. As I tend to use narratives I was hoping to
utilize the pre-defined sentences. Oh well, best come up with my own not
that that is too difficult but I would have been interested to see what
sentence the output would have been from the pre-defined sentence. 


Thanks again,
Belinda




Below are the Fields in the default physical description event.  Create a new event and cut and 
paste them into the appropriate fields, top to bottom.


Physical Description

[HeShe] was described as [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described as [Desc] [onDate].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described as [Desc] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described physically [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described as [Desc].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described physically [onDate].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described physically [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

[HeShe] was described physically.[Sources] [Notes]

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Group was Error 91 Ta Dah!

[MICHELLE CROSBY]

All,
Since I am not a "geek", I did ask some of the "geeks" that work for me about 
runtime error 91.  We did a quick google search and
found an article on ezinearticles dated oct 20, 2008.  I would encourage you 
all if you haven't done this to do a quick  google search
on that error.  This may be caused by a virus or adware that is hidden on your 
computer.  It could be corrupting a reg file.
Remember, I'm not a geek and when anything goes wrong on my computer I take it 
to the geeks that work for me.  I have a very
good anti virus software with spyware protection and also run CCleaner after I 
have been on the internet.  CClearner removes all
the cookies and temp files from my computer- and believe you me there are a lot 
after being on the internet researching.  So far, with a Vista 64 bit machine, 
4 gigs of Ram. and  I have not had this problem yet- I don't know if this helps 
but it can't hurt.
Shelly
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ann Parsons 
  To: 
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  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Group was Error 91 Ta Dah!


  Yvonne,

  Welcome to the Group, there are quite a few of us. I think most of us are 
  like you, not happy and worried about the integrity of our data. Believe me 
  if I could learn what I am doing to cause error 91 I would never do it 
  again!!

  Ann



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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release version

[Ann Parsons]

When I was doing the searching to learn what version of jet pack it had 
somehow I wandered into a place that said C:\Windows\System32 after you 
asked what made me think that I got out the book that came with it. Under 
system information it says
Data bus width 64 bits
DRAM bus width dual-channel (2) 64-bit buses
processor address bus width 36 bits (Intel) and 32 bits (AMD)
Flash EPROM 2 MB
PCI bus 32 bits

I don't know if it is an Itel or AMD processor.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release version


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:30:16 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Also I learned that this computer is a 32 bit not a 64 bit as the
>salesperson said.

What makes you think that?

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Re: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[Tim Rosenlof]

Scroll down on the main home page of www.legacyfamilytree.com 
You see they are a affiliate

Tim

- Original Message - 
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To: 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] IGI Stuff


I just attended a meeting in California  and the topic was Ancestral 
quest 12.1.   The developer talked about  his software being able to 
compare  Family search and identify other similar lines of genealogy.  I 
thought that was a feature was in Legacy 6.   yet I can't find it now.   
Can someone direct me to it!  thanks


Bill  Daniels


Second question:
I have not updated  to Legacy 7.  Are the major problems solved  to do 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen? THANKS

[Gen Searcher]

Thanks to Dede and Don
for advising where I could switch the tips screen back on
John

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?


> Hello John,
> Click on View-Tips Window, then click the bottom box, "show this
> Welcome screen..."
> 
> Dede
> 
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Gen Searcher  wrote:
>> Hello List
>> Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up
>> I cannot find it
>> John
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Barb Weed]

Hello,  I have Legacy 7 installed on my Vista Home Edition (32bit not 64bit) 
and it works perfectly.  I also use a flash drive.  All of my data is on the 
flash drive including my multimedia files.  I have Legacy installed on my 
laptop with Vista and on my desktop which has XP.  I can work on either one 
just by moving the jump drive and I always have an up to date database.  I 
never backup to the flash drive only to the C drive of each computer and 
ocassionally e-mail myself a copy of my database.  I have used this method 
since ver 6 and I have used Legacy since version 2. The flash drive is the 
easiest way to keep your current files with you and use them on any computer 
with Legacy 7 installed.
Barb



- Original Message 
From: ronald ferguson 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:56:34 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91


Ann et al,

I have been reading through the back posts on this subject and from the work 
which you and others have done it would seem that the problem which you have is 
specific to Vista users _ I think I will install Legacy on my own Vista machine 
and see what happens. It also seems that it is not related to the repository 
for the back-up and furthermore the recommendations in the Help File for Error 
91 either do not apply or do not work with Vista. BTW the reference to IGI is 
not related to your problem as it only applies if the error arose when using 
the IGI from within Legacy.

I note Ken's response to this problem and can see his difficulty as it does not 
affect all Vista users. It would be interesting to know if it affects all 
versions of Vista - I have Home Basic and can look at that, we know Ann has 
Vista Premium which does it affect?

I appreciate that this is not a suggested resolution but maybe re3sponses will 
help Ken to reproduce the problem.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:16:19 -0700
>
> Jack,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond to my problem with Legacy. I
> received your message last evening and I was too upset to be able to compose
> a reply. Now 3:30am and will try to write something that makes sense. It
> really helps to know that I am not the only user that gets error 91. I don't'
> recall when was the first time I was the 'lucky recipient' of error 91. I do
> recall since summer 2008 or perhaps before this on occasion I would get
> error 91, do the check repair and and no more error 91.
>
> I agree with you that the advice for error 91 are not helpful to Vista
> users. I did everything that the error 91 instructions said to do. I do not
> see what the IGI search at the top of the instruction list has to do with
> what you, I and many others have that get error 91. I have looked at the IGI
> but not thru Legacy I have my internet from my telephone company who gets it
> from MSN hence my browser is MSN.
>
> I also get the message when I back up to both my C hard drive and to an
> external Maxtor hard drive. Then using the flash drives I do a restore to a
> different laptop that has Vista.
>
> What worries me is all my data being backed up??? I can do backup one right
> after another and get different KB's. Another odd thing is yesterday when I
> did check repair I got the first message in years that I needed to fix and
> incorrect repository. I looked at the source it referred me to and I had not
> modified it since October 18, 2008. I was surprised to see the repository
> was not longer there. I know it was there when I entered the source. Could
> error 91 be what caused the repository to be removed. Why no message when
> doing check/repair for two and a half months that there was a problem.
>
> I also did the export to a new file, did the uninstall reinstall of the
> Legacy program. When doing the back up I did not have the multimedia ticked
> as I do not have any multimedia. Yesterday evening my husband suggested when
> I get the back up message do I want to put the multimedia in the same folder
> as the data to answer yes. After that no more error 91. Now I speculate that
> answering yes has nothing to do with no more error 91 that I like you am
> back to a period of no more 91 only to have it start again in a week or so.
>
> Again, I thank you for your message it is a great relief to know I am not
> the only person with this problem.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Earnshaw" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>> Ann
>>
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?

[Dede Holden]

Hello John,
Click on View-Tips Window, then click the bottom box, "show this
Welcome screen..."

Dede

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> Hello List
> Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up
> I cannot find it
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?

[Don Varner]

Options, General, Program Start UP.  Tick Display Splash Screen During
Program Start Up.
Don

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> Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up
> I cannot find it
> John
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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release version

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:30:16 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Also I learned that this computer is a 32 bit not a 64 bit as the 
>salesperson said.

What makes you think that?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Group was Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Yvonne,

Welcome to the Group, there are quite a few of us. I think most of us are 
like you, not happy and worried about the integrity of our data. Believe me 
if I could learn what I am doing to cause error 91 I would never do it 
again!!

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "Yvonne Morehouse" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


> I'm a member of the Error 91 group.  I wonder how widespread this issue is
> and how many different computer configurations it affects.
>
> I use Vista Home Premium on a Dell XPS420.  I have 2.40 gigahertz Intel
> Core2 Quad Q6600, 64 kilobyte primary memory cache, 4096 kilobyte 
> secondary
> memory cache, 750.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity and 549.01
> Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space so space ain't a problem.
>
> I have backups on an external drive and at Mozy.  I've read the Legacy 
> Error
> 91 fix it notes.  I've exported to a new file.  Nope.  Nada.  Doesn't 
> work.
> Still get Error 91.  Like the other members of the Legacy Error 91 club, 
> I'm
> not happy.
>
> Yvonne
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release version

[Ann Parsons]

Dennis,

Firstly I admire your Mother for using the computer. She like me probably 
learned to type on a manual typewriter. I recall when the IBM Selectric was 
available. I worked in the administration building of the Barstow [CA] 
school district. They bought a bunch of them, money no object when it is the 
taxpayers money. We were so scared of those typewriters when they were 
deliverd, the carriage didn't move. Once we got the hang of it we loved it, 
no more slinging the carriage back with your right hand while you were still 
typing with your left.

I found the version. It is version 4.0.970.0 created 20 Jan 2008. I went to 
the chart found on the link you sent me. For 4.0.970.0 it says this is 
Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008.

The next paragraph states there are five versions of the Jet 4.0 Service 
Pack 8 (SP8) download. Vista is not listed. Listed are Windows 2000, XP, 
Windows Server 2003, Windows 95, 98 NT 4.0 and millennium edition.

This gives me the idea that this computer has the latest version of the jet 
pack. Also I learned that this computer is a 32 bit not a 64 bit as the 
salesperson said. I am ok with this.

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[LegacyUG] Tips screen?

[Gen Searcher]

Hello List 
Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up
I cannot find it
John



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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Tim Rosenlof]

I see this gmail account has been discussed. Sorry for my ignorance of not 
paying attention.

Tim

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?


Why just not create a gmail account, subscribe that gmail account. No 
forwarding or anything and I see nothing for it goes straight to that 
account. It's great for searching, and it threads the msg's. I just 
checked and have 3,988 currently in that account. I set it up a year ago 
or so.

Tim

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Like Wendy, I recommend gmail. Another useful thing about gmail -- you
can set it up to FORWARD to your gmail account, email that comes to
your old account. If I recall correctly, the forwards were not instant
but reasonably prompt. Cheers, Dolly in Maryland (cold; had sleet this
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Yvonne Morehouse]

I'm a member of the Error 91 group.  I wonder how widespread this issue is 
and how many different computer configurations it affects.


I use Vista Home Premium on a Dell XPS420.  I have 2.40 gigahertz Intel 
Core2 Quad Q6600, 64 kilobyte primary memory cache, 4096 kilobyte secondary 
memory cache, 750.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity and 549.01 
Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space so space ain't a problem.


I have backups on an external drive and at Mozy.  I've read the Legacy Error 
91 fix it notes.  I've exported to a new file.  Nope.  Nada.  Doesn't work. 
Still get Error 91.  Like the other members of the Legacy Error 91 club, I'm 
not happy.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash drive (humor)

[Janis L Gilmore]

Some repositories (the FHL, for instance) are equipped to allow saving
directly to a flash drive, rather than copying a document. Having a scan
directly from the image, rather than a scan from a copy of the image, can be
most helpful when trying to interpret a spotty old deed!

I found that the microfilm reader/scanner at the FHL did not recognize the
small external hard drive with which I travel. Fortunately, the FHL sells 1
GB flash drives, 1 for $9 or 2 for $14.

(Elizabeth, I'm not trying to talk you into one - you strike me as someone
who knows what she wants, or doesn't want! Just FYI to others)

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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Tim Rosenlof]

Why just not create a gmail account, subscribe that gmail account. No 
forwarding or anything and I see nothing for it goes straight to that 
account. It's great for searching, and it threads the msg's. I just checked 
and have 3,988 currently in that account. I set it up a year ago or so.

Tim

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To: 
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Like Wendy, I recommend gmail. Another useful thing about gmail -- you
can set it up to FORWARD to your gmail account, email that comes to
your old account. If I recall correctly, the forwards were not instant
but reasonably prompt. Cheers, Dolly in Maryland (cold; had sleet this
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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release was Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Thank you, I know there is a Help as I have used it. You are a big help to 
me.
Best regards,
Ann


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To: 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release was Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:13:33 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>The directions on the link you sent are How to determine the current 
>release
>level of Jet 4.0.
>#1. Click start and then click Search.
>I clicked on the windows logo ball in lower left corner. No search to be
>seen.
>I looked around at what comes up after clicking on the windows logo nothing
>that I thought could be Search.

I am not on Vista so I can't help you here. Maybe someone with Vista can
jump in and tell you how to search for a file. Is there a "Help" or
"Help and Support" menu item? Maybe that will tell you how to search for
a file.

Or, if you can open up Windows Explorer, go to C:\Windows\System32 or
C:\Windows\SysWOW64 and look for Msjet40.dll. Right-click on it and then
click Properties.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release was Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:13:33 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>The directions on the link you sent are How to determine the current release 
>level of Jet 4.0.
>#1. Click start and then click Search.
>I clicked on the windows logo ball in lower left corner. No search to be 
>seen.
>I looked around at what comes up after clicking on the windows logo nothing 
>that I thought could be Search.

I am not on Vista so I can't help you here. Maybe someone with Vista can
jump in and tell you how to search for a file. Is there a "Help" or
"Help and Support" menu item? Maybe that will tell you how to search for
a file.

Or, if you can open up Windows Explorer, go to C:\Windows\System32 or
C:\Windows\SysWOW64 and look for Msjet40.dll. Right-click on it and then
click Properties.
 
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[LegacyUG] Getting your own messages on the lis

[Gen Searcher]

Hello Keith
I use Gmail via my ISP which is SKY I then have Gmail transfer all my mail to 
Outlook Express
When I started using it I could see my postings to legacy or any other list 
Then sks on another explained that if you go to tools  (in Outlook)  
>accounts>properties>Servers> email address> then typeRECENT:  
immediately infront of your email address then you get a copy of you own 
messages to everyone
It works
John
Manchester
England
- Original Message - 
From: "GeoSci" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?


> Another alternative
> 
> If anyone wants a GMAIL account - I can send an invitation to you!
> They give you 7282mb of on-line storage!  If you use the account for
> LUG - it keep everything - all neatly organized for you (or you can
> come up with your own labels).  The only strange thing I have found is
> it does not show you your own posts! (If I send something to the group
> - I never see it until someone answers it)  STRANGE but you can get
> accustomed to it!
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] How determine Jet release was Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Dennis,

The directions on the link you sent are How to determine the current release 
level of Jet 4.0.
#1. Click start and then click Search.
I clicked on the windows logo ball in lower left corner. No search to be 
seen.
I looked around at what comes up after clicking on the windows logo nothing 
that I thought could be Search.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:38:46 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Dennis,
>
>I looked at the link you sent. Firstly is says Moderate: Requires basic
>macro, coding and interoperability skills. I know nothing about doing
>macros, coding or the interoperability skills other than I don't have them.
>It goes on about installing Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8. I read about on about
>64-bit versions the Msjet40.dll file is in the Windows\SysWOW64 folder. 
>Then
>it goes on about various release levels and about a hot fix. All this is
>beyond my skills. I have read the comments from the LUG about people like 
>me
>being so dumb and there should be a test for a license required before 
>using
>a computer. That 95% of people on the LUG are dumber than the skilled ones.
>Yes, I am dumb when it comes to computers and perhaps I shouldn't be using
>one. But...if not for us dumb ones trying to use one and buy Legacy 
>software
>perhaps Legacy would not be as successful as it is. We dumb ones are good
>for something!!! I will now get off my soapbox. Must be the full moon
>affecting me.

Don't feel bad. I bought my mother a PC (for email and web surfing) for
Christmas a couple of years ago. She just turned 79. You are light years
ahead of her!

The thing I want you to try is what is listed under "How to determine
the current release level of Jet 4.0". Can you perform that step and
tell us what version of Jet you have?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[Ann Parsons]

I'll check my old back ups and see what I can find. Another odd thing that 
happened yesterday was when I was in my 'strays' database I added a person, 
then I went to the index tab to change to another person, clicked on that 
person and I was back with person one. I tried two or three other people 
still stuck on number one. I looked at the history list that is the down 
triangle between back and name list. Lo and behold all the people I had 
tried to access were listed. I went out of Legacy, turned off the computer, 
had a cup of tea, went back and the 'stray' database worked ok.


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:43:28 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Even odder is the repository was there when I did the
>source in October yet yesterday it was gone.

If you have backups going back that far, you can restore them one at a
time (to a test database) to see when the repository disappeared. The
$64,000 question remains ... what caused it to disappear. Legacy
shouldn't let you delete repositories that are being used.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

I value your opinion, another worry off my mind thanks to you.


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From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:50:48 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>That is a very good idea.
>
>After backing up to the C drive, to an external hard drive I then back up 
>to
>the flash drive and take it to a different computer and do a restore. I 
>then
>look at how many individuals, families, sources there are. Then I go to the
>index tab click on RIN and make sure the last RIN is the same. Then I 
>browse
>around looking at various people. Things always look ok yet on the second
>computer I still get error 91.

Then I think your backups are sound.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Dennis,

I think I can do that, give me a few minutes to get my courage up ie: 
another cup of coffee.

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:38:46 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Dennis,
>
>I looked at the link you sent. Firstly is says Moderate: Requires basic
>macro, coding and interoperability skills. I know nothing about doing
>macros, coding or the interoperability skills other than I don't have them.
>It goes on about installing Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8. I read about on about
>64-bit versions the Msjet40.dll file is in the Windows\SysWOW64 folder. 
>Then
>it goes on about various release levels and about a hot fix. All this is
>beyond my skills. I have read the comments from the LUG about people like 
>me
>being so dumb and there should be a test for a license required before 
>using
>a computer. That 95% of people on the LUG are dumber than the skilled ones.
>Yes, I am dumb when it comes to computers and perhaps I shouldn't be using
>one. But...if not for us dumb ones trying to use one and buy Legacy 
>software
>perhaps Legacy would not be as successful as it is. We dumb ones are good
>for something!!! I will now get off my soapbox. Must be the full moon
>affecting me.

Don't feel bad. I bought my mother a PC (for email and web surfing) for
Christmas a couple of years ago. She just turned 79. You are light years
ahead of her!

The thing I want you to try is what is listed under "How to determine
the current release level of Jet 4.0". Can you perform that step and
tell us what version of Jet you have?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:43:28 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Even odder is the repository was there when I did the 
>source in October yet yesterday it was gone.

If you have backups going back that far, you can restore them one at a
time (to a test database) to see when the repository disappeared. The
$64,000 question remains ... what caused it to disappear. Legacy
shouldn't let you delete repositories that are being used.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:50:48 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>That is a very good idea.
>
>After backing up to the C drive, to an external hard drive I then back up to 
>the flash drive and take it to a different computer and do a restore. I then 
>look at how many individuals, families, sources there are. Then I go to the 
>index tab click on RIN and make sure the last RIN is the same. Then I browse 
>around looking at various people. Things always look ok yet on the second 
>computer I still get error 91.

Then I think your backups are sound.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:34:57 -0600, "JCTripp" 
wrote:

>I believe this child status error is coming from the fact that I don't have 
>a "BLANK LINE" child status.

This is correct. I just tried deleting the "blank line" record in MS
Access on a test database and received the same error.

The funny thing is check/repair is acting like it fixes the problem, but
it actually doesn't.

As Ron said, you will need someone who knows there way around MS Access
to fix the problem for you. I don't think an export of your database to
either a GEDCOM or another Legacy database will fix it, but there is no
harm in trying. I didn't try this part myself.

If you want to send me the .fdb file (off list) I can give it a try. It
doesn't look like a large file.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

What a rock you are!! Learning that the different KBs are normal is a great 
weight off my mind.

Ann


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From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:29 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Ann,

Minor variations in your zip files are nothing to worry about. All the zip 
file is is a compressed file containing your data. It is not unusual to get 
small variations in the amount of compression and hence the number of KBs.

You can copy a zip file from one form of drive to another in the same way as 
you can with any other file.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:55:33 -0700
>
> Bob,
>
> I remember your posting last summer about receiving error 91 and Millennia
> reply that they could not reproduce it. Since so many of us are getting
> error 91 perhaps it isn't we users. I agree Millennia can't fix what they
> cannot reproduce, kind of a Catch 22.
>
> Ken suggested doing normal backup to the hard drive then copying the .zip
> file to a flash drive. Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am
> concerned how good the zip file might be. I have over 30 years of work
> depending on Legacy so I try to cover all my bases. I back up to my C 
> drive,
> to an external Maxtor hard drive, to a flash drive and restore it on a
> different computer.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to let me know what you have heard or 
> haven't
> heard from Millennia I appreciate it.
>
> Ann
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "BOB CUNNINGHAM"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
>
>
> Ann
> In the Archives their is quite q few posts on Error 91.
> Below is a mail I received from Ken McGinnes last June on the subject. To
> date I have never seen a answer from support saying that they have worked
> out the cause or come up with a fix.
>
> Re: Version 7 and Error 91Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:42 PM
> From: "Ken McGinnis" Add sender to
> Contacts To: "BOB CUNNINGHAM"
>
>
> It's almost impossible to fix a problem that we cannot reproduce. If I
> could
> figure out what is going on then I'd be able to get it fixed.
>
> For now, If a normal backup to your hard drive works do that and then just
> copy
> the .zip file to you flash drive.
>
> Thanks
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> --
>
> Regards
> Bob Cunningham
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/1/09, Ann Parsons wrote:
>
>> From: Ann Parsons
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 10:17 PM
>> Ron,
>>
>> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my
>> eyeteeth if I
>> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would
>> never ever do what
>> causes it again.
>>
>> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would
>> uninstall &
>> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he
>> tried to back up
>> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same
>> folder. He selected
>> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they
>> seemed to do ok. He
>> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes
>> to multimedia in
>> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never
>> selected yes.
>>
>> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98
>> & NT to use
>> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe,
>> for Windows 2000
>> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use
>> WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU
>> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is
>> supposed to be set up to
>> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word
>> is supposed I
>> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I
>> can find a jet engine for
>> Vista.
>>
>> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ronald ferguson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>
>>
>>
>> Ann,
>>
>> You say:
>>> As I understand the error 91 instructions it
>> doesn't seem to mention
>>> Vista.
>>> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
>> export file per
>>> instruction #3.
>>>
>>
>> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only
>> apply to the jet
>> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you
>> really should try
>> them, and I would do #3 first.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:37:01 +1100, "Belinda " 
wrote:

>Don't know how they AWOL in the first place but at least they are
>back now. 

They can disappear if you do a File > File Maintenance > Master Lists
Cleanup...
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[Ann Parsons]

Michele,

For years I never received a check/repair error. Yesterday was the first 
time and it pertained to a source that I had not touched since Oct 2008. Odd 
the dozens & dozens of check /repair I have done the message never was there 
until yesterday. Even odder is the repository was there when I did the 
source in October yet yesterday it was gone.

Ann

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To: "Legacy E-Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error


> Whenever I run the check/repair I get the following error.  I get this 
> exact
> same error EVERY time I run the check/repair.  I am not sure how to fix
> this.
>
>
> Check/Repair of Legacy Family File: C:\Legacy\Data\Michele's Family.fdb
> Date: 01-10-2009
> Please check this file very carefully.
> It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in
> this file.
>
>
> ==
> There are 3 Source Repository record(s) referred to that do not exist:
> ==
>
>  Source Name=Marriage Records - MS - Clarke Co - Marriage Book A-B (white
> marriages) 1853-1867 (FHL microfilm 890132).  The Repository reference has
> been removed.
>
>  Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Hinds Co - Will Book 1 September Term
> 1833 (FHL microfilm 878728).  The Repository reference has been removed.
>
>  Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Jasper Co - Will Book 1, 2nd District
> 1855-1944.  The Repository reference has been removed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Dennis,

That is a very good idea.

After backing up to the C drive, to an external hard drive I then back up to 
the flash drive and take it to a different computer and do a restore. I then 
look at how many individuals, families, sources there are. Then I go to the 
index tab click on RIN and make sure the last RIN is the same. Then I browse 
around looking at various people. Things always look ok yet on the second 
computer I still get error 91.

Ann


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From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:55:33 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am
>concerned how good the zip file might be.

It is a good idea to occasionally test the integrity of a backup by
performing a Legacy restore (to a different database). Then run a
check/repair on that test database to see if there are any problems.
Maybe even browse around that database to see if everyone looks to be
there.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Elizabeth,

Welcome to the error 91 group!!! I too hope Millennia can fix the error 91 
problem that so many of us get. I have never ticked the multimedia as I 
don't have any multimedia. My husband did answer the question where the back 
up asks if you want the multimedia in the same folder as the data as yes. I 
had never answered it yes since I didn't have any multimedia. After he did 
that I was able to back up without getting error 91. After reading messages 
from other recipients of error 91 I speculate that error 91 is something 
that comes & goes and answering yes has not actually fixed the problem.

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


> Sorry, Robin, I did not know that people would actually WEAR computer
> equipment, and you did add to my knowledge in that department. Made me 
> shake
> my head wondering what this world is coming to, and so I did find some 
> humor
> in your post. I cannot see how a flash drive makes using a computer
> "easier", though, and there have posts here regarding problems with them,
> which only confirms my suspicions. (I live in a town of 10,000, 700 air
> miles from anywhere over 50,000 population, and driving 20 miles in either
> direction from my house puts you smack dab in front of an "end of the 
> road"
> sign, so remote is the way I describe my location.)
>
> My post regarding the subject - Error 91 - had to do with the fact that I
> get this error and do not use a flash drive. The back up location has
> nothing to do with this error. However, somewhere in the thread of this
> problem, someone identified that unticking backing up the multimedia files
> seemed to be at the core of the problem. Since I don't have multimedia 
> files
> attached to Legacy, I don't attempt to back them up and that might be the
> common thread here. I unticked that step because it seemed to me that 
> asking
> the computer to look for non-existent files/folders was only asking for
> trouble. Maybe not.
>
> I hope Millenia takes note.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "RobinH" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
>
>
> > Rather a shame, Elizabeth, that you led me to explain a flash drive when
> > you knew all the time.
> >
> > And I don't really NEED a moral lesson on the difference between "Need"
> > and "Want", thanks. If one chooses to use a computer it's sensible to
> > spend a small amount of money to make its use easier. I am hardly 
> > keeping
> > up with the Joneses as I live in a remote rural village, my car is 10
> > years old and my TV older still.
> >
> > Thanks Dolly for your comment!
> >
> > Robin Hoare 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Gary,

I back up to my C drive, to an external hard drive then to a flash drive 
that I take to another computer and do a restore as a back up.

Ann


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From: "Gary" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


> I'd like to add, if you are going to flash memory for backup, use 
> something
> in addition too. I backup to a hard drive on my network and also use 
> online
> storage. Flash memory one limitation is it's life span, it has limited
> erase-write cycles. They can sometimes die quickly. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Robin and Elizabeth,

I use flash drives to put my back up on a different computer. I am certainly 
not well to do. My husband is an age 80 wartime disabled veteran rated 100% 
service connected by the Veterans Affairs. He has not been able to work 
since 1969. We depend on what this 75 year old lady can earn and his 
veterans compensation. I too know the difference between need and want. I am 
fortunate to have 2 sons that provided our computers and flash drives for us 
as my husband is somewhat confined to our home. Computers sure beat watching 
TV. Yes we have a TV that our sons gave us.

Thank Dolly from me for your humor.

Ann

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


> Rather a shame, Elizabeth, that you led me to explain a flash drive when
> you knew all the time.
>
> And I don't really NEED a moral lesson on the difference between "Need"
> and "Want", thanks. If one chooses to use a computer it's sensible to
> spend a small amount of money to make its use easier. I am hardly
> keeping up with the Joneses as I live in a remote rural village, my car
> is 10 years old and my TV older still.
>
> Thanks Dolly for your comment!
>
> Robin Hoare
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:38:46 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Dennis,
>
>I looked at the link you sent. Firstly is says Moderate: Requires basic 
>macro, coding and interoperability skills. I know nothing about doing 
>macros, coding or the interoperability skills other than I don't have them. 
>It goes on about installing Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8. I read about on about 
>64-bit versions the Msjet40.dll file is in the Windows\SysWOW64 folder. Then 
>it goes on about various release levels and about a hot fix. All this is 
>beyond my skills. I have read the comments from the LUG about people like me 
>being so dumb and there should be a test for a license required before using 
>a computer. That 95% of people on the LUG are dumber than the skilled ones. 
>Yes, I am dumb when it comes to computers and perhaps I shouldn't be using 
>one. But...if not for us dumb ones trying to use one and buy Legacy software 
>perhaps Legacy would not be as successful as it is. We dumb ones are good 
>for something!!! I will now get off my soapbox. Must be the full moon 
>affecting me.

Don't feel bad. I bought my mother a PC (for email and web surfing) for
Christmas a couple of years ago. She just turned 79. You are light years
ahead of her!

The thing I want you to try is what is listed under "How to determine
the current release level of Jet 4.0". Can you perform that step and
tell us what version of Jet you have?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91= a bit changed

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

What people who use computers do is highly variable.  I am 74, have been 
involved in computers heavily since 1981, marginally since 1955, but 
almost all of my experience is in PC programs and accounting systems.  
My sister, age 67, is a COBOL programmer (has been for over 40 years)  
but does not know nearly as much about PC's as I do. I use spreadsheets 
all the time but have done macros maybe twice.  Most things technical I 
do not do.  Have never done photo programs either. A son who does do 
photo editing is very patient with me.


The thing is, that computers are now so varied and complex that nobody 
knows all of it, even those who spend all their time at it. Not 
everybody has all or even most of the skill sets. That is why a list 
like this is so handy.


 Elizabeth C

Ann Parsons wrote:
Since getting error 91 I now have Legacy backed up on 7 different flash 
drives. Some have 1 backup, some have 7 to 10 back ups of Legacy, nothing 
else. I don't know if they are backed up to the root directory. I put the 
flash drive in the usb port. Then in Legacy I do the backup to that drive. 
It goes to where Legacy wants to put it.


You are dealing with an age 75 lady that is one of the few she knows that 
even owns a computer. Where I live there is no computer club to belong to. 
We do have a Staples office supply store that offers computer repair at 
$79.00 an hour. Since Ken at Millennia cannot reproduce the problem I have 
not even considered having whatever college kid at Staples try to fix it.


When you have time if you could teach me how to see if it went to the root 
directory I will check and see if it is there.


I appreciate you trying to help me.

Ann

  




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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Minor variations in your zip files are nothing to worry about. All the zip file 
is is a compressed file containing your data. It is not unusual to get small 
variations in the amount of compression and hence the number of KBs.
 
You can copy a zip file from one form of drive to another in the same way as 
you can with any other file.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:55:33 -0700
>
> Bob,
>
> I remember your posting last summer about receiving error 91 and Millennia
> reply that they could not reproduce it. Since so many of us are getting
> error 91 perhaps it isn't we users. I agree Millennia can't fix what they
> cannot reproduce, kind of a Catch 22.
>
> Ken suggested doing normal backup to the hard drive then copying the .zip
> file to a flash drive. Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am
> concerned how good the zip file might be. I have over 30 years of work
> depending on Legacy so I try to cover all my bases. I back up to my C drive,
> to an external Maxtor hard drive, to a flash drive and restore it on a
> different computer.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to let me know what you have heard or haven't
> heard from Millennia I appreciate it.
>
> Ann
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
>
>
> Ann
> In the Archives their is quite q few posts on Error 91.
> Below is a mail I received from Ken McGinnes last June on the subject. To
> date I have never seen a answer from support saying that they have worked
> out the cause or come up with a fix.
>
> Re: Version 7 and Error 91Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:42 PM
> From: "Ken McGinnis" Add sender to
> Contacts To: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 
>
>
> It's almost impossible to fix a problem that we cannot reproduce. If I
> could
> figure out what is going on then I'd be able to get it fixed.
>
> For now, If a normal backup to your hard drive works do that and then just
> copy
> the .zip file to you flash drive.
>
> Thanks
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> --
>
> Regards
> Bob Cunningham
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/1/09, Ann Parsons wrote:
>
>> From: Ann Parsons 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 10:17 PM
>> Ron,
>>
>> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my
>> eyeteeth if I
>> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would
>> never ever do what
>> causes it again.
>>
>> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would
>> uninstall &
>> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he
>> tried to back up
>> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same
>> folder. He selected
>> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they
>> seemed to do ok. He
>> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes
>> to multimedia in
>> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never
>> selected yes.
>>
>> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98
>> & NT to use
>> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe,
>> for Windows 2000
>> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use
>> WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU
>> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is
>> supposed to be set up to
>> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word
>> is supposed I
>> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I
>> can find a jet engine for
>> Vista.
>>
>> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ronald ferguson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>
>>
>>
>> Ann,
>>
>> You say:
>>> As I understand the error 91 instructions it
>> doesn't seem to mention
>>> Vista.
>>> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
>> export file per
>>> instruction #3.
>>>
>>
>> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only
>> apply to the jet
>> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you
>> really should try
>> them, and I would do #3 first.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Yes I have 

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:55:33 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am 
>concerned how good the zip file might be.

It is a good idea to occasionally test the integrity of a backup by
performing a Legacy restore (to a different database). Then run a
check/repair on that test database to see if there are any problems.
Maybe even browse around that database to see if everyone looks to be
there.
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Good morning Ron,

He backed up to the flash drive, then took it to a different computer and 
opened it. There seems to be quite a few that are also getting error 91. I 
don't have any multimedia files, that is why I didn't say yes when it asked 
if I wanted them in the same folder as the data. After reading others 
intermittent receiving error 91 I wonder if where my husband thought 
answering yes will not solve the problem that I am in remission so to speak 
in receiving error 91. I will do the back up to the hard drive and then from 
that back up I will back up to the flash drive and see what happens.

I am certainly relived to read your advice to leave the jet engine alone. I 
bought this Dell 1525 August 2008 and where I live one gets Vista, no other 
option. I hesitate to do mail order as our postman is not too dependable. 
Example I have had mail left two blocks away. When I inquired why it was 
left there the reply as that the letter was from Kentucky and the car at 
that house had Kentucky plates so he left it there. Maybe living on a desert 
at 4000 feet elevation all the ultra violet has cooked our brains as one 
would an egg.

You are greatly appreciated
Ann in New Mexico, USA


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Ann,

According to Legacy there should not be a need to change the jet engine in 
Vista as it is a later version (and may be different) than the jet engine 
which they recommend.

Did your husband backup to your hard drive or Flash? I'm moving towards 
thinking that it maybe backing up to Flash which is causing the difficulty, 
although I note the post from Jack where he says he has an on-going problem 
like yours with vista. I back up to my HD and then copy to Flash btw. and I 
do not back up the multimedia files (far too many!).

I do not have Legacy on my Vista machine, I'm afraid.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:56 -0700
>
> Ron,
>
> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my eyeteeth if I
> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would never ever do 
> what
> causes it again.
>
> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would uninstall &
> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he tried to back up
> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same folder. He selected
> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they seemed to do ok. 
> He
> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes to multimedia 
> in
> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never selected yes.
>
> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98 & NT to use
> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe, for Windows 
> 2000
> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use 
> WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU
> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is supposed to be set up to
> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word is supposed I
> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I can find a jet engine 
> for
> Vista.
>
> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
>
> Ann
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> You say:
>> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention
>> Vista.
>> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
>> instruction #3.
>>
>
> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only apply to the jet
> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you really should 
> try
> them, and I would do #3 first.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to 
>> the
>> hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer
>> anymore until I 

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Ann Parsons]

Since getting error 91 I now have Legacy backed up on 7 different flash 
drives. Some have 1 backup, some have 7 to 10 back ups of Legacy, nothing 
else. I don't know if they are backed up to the root directory. I put the 
flash drive in the usb port. Then in Legacy I do the backup to that drive. 
It goes to where Legacy wants to put it.

You are dealing with an age 75 lady that is one of the few she knows that 
even owns a computer. Where I live there is no computer club to belong to. 
We do have a Staples office supply store that offers computer repair at 
$79.00 an hour. Since Ken at Millennia cannot reproduce the problem I have 
not even considered having whatever college kid at Staples try to fix it.

When you have time if you could teach me how to see if it went to the root 
directory I will check and see if it is there.

I appreciate you trying to help me.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91


On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive.

Are you backing up to the root directory on the flash drive? If so, how
many files are in the root directory?

-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source options on chronology report

[Jenny M Benson]

Jennifer Trahan wrote
By the way, can someone check this for me and make sure it's not just a 
problem with my file?


I just looked and you are right about no option to print Sources on the 
same page.  On other Reports you have the option to print them as 
footnotes or endnotes, at the end of the Report or after each 
generation.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[ronald ferguson]

Ann et al,
 
I have been reading through the back posts on this subject and from the work 
which you and others have done it would seem that the problem which you have is 
specific to Vista users _ I think I will install Legacy on my own Vista machine 
and see what happens. It also seems that it is not related to the repository 
for the back-up and furthermore the recommendations in the Help File for Error 
91 either do not apply or do not work with Vista. BTW the reference to IGI is 
not related to your problem as it only applies if the error arose when using 
the IGI from within Legacy.
 
I note Ken's response to this problem and can see his difficulty as it does not 
affect all Vista users. It would be interesting to know if it affects all 
versions of Vista - I have Home Basic and can look at that, we know Ann has 
Vista Premium which does it affect?
 
I appreciate that this is not a suggested resolution but maybe re3sponses will 
help Ken to reproduce the problem.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:16:19 -0700
>
> Jack,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond to my problem with Legacy. I
> received your message last evening and I was too upset to be able to compose
> a reply. Now 3:30am and will try to write something that makes sense. It
> really helps to know that I am not the only user that gets error 91. I don't'
> recall when was the first time I was the 'lucky recipient' of error 91. I do
> recall since summer 2008 or perhaps before this on occasion I would get
> error 91, do the check repair and and no more error 91.
>
> I agree with you that the advice for error 91 are not helpful to Vista
> users. I did everything that the error 91 instructions said to do. I do not
> see what the IGI search at the top of the instruction list has to do with
> what you, I and many others have that get error 91. I have looked at the IGI
> but not thru Legacy I have my internet from my telephone company who gets it
> from MSN hence my browser is MSN.
>
> I also get the message when I back up to both my C hard drive and to an
> external Maxtor hard drive. Then using the flash drives I do a restore to a
> different laptop that has Vista.
>
> What worries me is all my data being backed up??? I can do backup one right
> after another and get different KB's. Another odd thing is yesterday when I
> did check repair I got the first message in years that I needed to fix and
> incorrect repository. I looked at the source it referred me to and I had not
> modified it since October 18, 2008. I was surprised to see the repository
> was not longer there. I know it was there when I entered the source. Could
> error 91 be what caused the repository to be removed. Why no message when
> doing check/repair for two and a half months that there was a problem.
>
> I also did the export to a new file, did the uninstall reinstall of the
> Legacy program. When doing the back up I did not have the multimedia ticked
> as I do not have any multimedia. Yesterday evening my husband suggested when
> I get the back up message do I want to put the multimedia in the same folder
> as the data to answer yes. After that no more error 91. Now I speculate that
> answering yes has nothing to do with no more error 91 that I like you am
> back to a period of no more 91 only to have it start again in a week or so.
>
> Again, I thank you for your message it is a great relief to know I am not
> the only person with this problem.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Earnshaw" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>> Ann
>>
>> You aren't alone. I've had this problem for a couple of years i.e it
>> started
>> with V6. The suggestions on the Legacy web site aren't at all helpful for
>> Vista users since it makes no mention of Vista. I backup to a hard drive
>> and
>> get this problem if I don't start the backup immediately after starting
>> the
>> program.
>>
>> After exhausting the options offered by the web site you are left with
>> "export to a new file". That worked for me for a few days, then the
>> problem
>> returned. I was really unhappy about the solution as I wasn't 100%
>> convinced
>> that ALL of my data would transfer. I don't think I've lost anything and
>> have kept all my backups, but I still get the error 91 problem quite
>> regularly
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ann Parsons
>> Se

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Bob,

I remember your posting last summer about receiving error 91 and Millennia 
reply that they could not reproduce it. Since so many of us are getting 
error 91 perhaps it isn't we users. I agree Millennia can't fix what they 
cannot reproduce, kind of a Catch 22.

Ken suggested doing normal backup to the hard drive then copying the .zip 
file to a flash drive. Since I keep getting various amounts of KB's I am 
concerned how good the zip file might be. I have over 30 years of work 
depending on Legacy so I try to cover all my bases. I back up to my C drive, 
to an external Maxtor hard drive, to a flash drive and restore it on a 
different computer.

Thank you for taking the time to let me know what you have heard or haven't 
heard from Millennia I appreciate it.

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


Ann
In the Archives their is quite q few posts on Error 91.
Below is a mail I received from Ken McGinnes last June on the subject. To 
date I have never seen a answer from support saying that they have worked 
out the cause or come up with a fix.

Re: Version 7 and Error 91Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:42 PM
From: "Ken McGinnis" Add sender to 
Contacts To: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 


It's almost impossible to fix a problem that we cannot reproduce.   If I 
could
figure out what is going on then I'd be able to get it fixed.

For now, If a normal backup to your hard drive works do that and then just 
copy
the .zip file to you flash drive.

Thanks
Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
--

Regards
Bob Cunningham




--- On Sat, 10/1/09, Ann Parsons  wrote:

> From: Ann Parsons 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 10:17 PM
> Ron,
>
> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my
> eyeteeth if I
> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would
> never ever do what
> causes it again.
>
> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would
> uninstall &
> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he
> tried to back up
> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same
> folder. He selected
> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they
> seemed to do ok. He
> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes
> to multimedia in
> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never
> selected yes.
>
> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98
> & NT to use
> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe,
> for Windows 2000
> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use
> WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU
> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is
> supposed to be set up to
> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word
> is supposed I
> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I
> can find a jet engine for
> Vista.
>
> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
>
> Ann
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> You say:
> > As I understand the error 91 instructions it
> doesn't seem to mention
> > Vista.
> > I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
> export file per
> > instruction #3.
> >
>
> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only
> apply to the jet
> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you
> really should try
> them, and I would do #3 first.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> > From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will
> try backing up to the
> > hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and
> didn't use the Acer
> > anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I
> would take the flash
> > drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good
> back up. As far as I
> > can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I
> tried to back up on the
> > same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error
> 91. I am not sure
> > about
> > that. I am getting very confused about what I have
> tried.
> >
> > As I understand the error 91 instructions it
> doesn't seem to mention
> > Vista.
> > I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
> export file per
> > instruction #3.
> >
> > I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the
> flash drives have just
> > one
> > file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that
> I have done
> > yesterday
> > and today.
> >
> > I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export
> now.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am
> quite upset a

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Dennis,

I looked at the link you sent. Firstly is says Moderate: Requires basic 
macro, coding and interoperability skills. I know nothing about doing 
macros, coding or the interoperability skills other than I don't have them. 
It goes on about installing Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8. I read about on about 
64-bit versions the Msjet40.dll file is in the Windows\SysWOW64 folder. Then 
it goes on about various release levels and about a hot fix. All this is 
beyond my skills. I have read the comments from the LUG about people like me 
being so dumb and there should be a test for a license required before using 
a computer. That 95% of people on the LUG are dumber than the skilled ones. 
Yes, I am dumb when it comes to computers and perhaps I shouldn't be using 
one. But...if not for us dumb ones trying to use one and buy Legacy software 
perhaps Legacy would not be as successful as it is. We dumb ones are good 
for something!!! I will now get off my soapbox. Must be the full moon 
affecting me.

Back to you trying to help me. I bought this Dell 1525 64 bit August 2008 
hopefully it came with the required jet packs. I will try the export to a 
GEDCOM and then import to a new Legacy database. I do appreciate you taking 
the time to help me and perhaps the many others that are also the lucky 
recipients of error 91.

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:56 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>I did the export, still received error 91

Did you export to a Legacy database? Or did you export to a GEDCOM and
then import to a new Legacy database? Try the latter if you haven't
already. But I would recommend taking a look at the Jet Engine first.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Thank you for your interest in my and many others problem with error 91. I 
exported to a Legacy database. I will try the GEDCOM and import it into a 
Legacy database but firstly I will look at the link you sent. I appreciate 
your input.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:56 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>I did the export, still received error 91

Did you export to a Legacy database? Or did you export to a GEDCOM and
then import to a new Legacy database? Try the latter if you haven't
already. But I would recommend taking a look at the Jet Engine first.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Ann Parsons]

Jack,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my problem with Legacy. I 
received your message last evening and I was too upset to be able to compose 
a reply. Now 3:30am and will try to write something that makes sense. It 
really helps to know that I am not the only user that gets error 91. I don't' 
recall when was the first time I was the 'lucky recipient' of error 91. I do 
recall since summer 2008 or perhaps before this on occasion I would get 
error 91, do the check repair and and no more error 91.

I agree with you that the advice for error 91 are not helpful to Vista 
users. I did everything that the error 91 instructions said to do. I do not 
see what the IGI search at the top of the instruction list has to do with 
what you, I and many others have that get error 91. I have looked at the IGI 
but not thru Legacy I have my internet from my telephone company who gets it 
from MSN hence my browser is MSN.

I also get the message when I back up to both my C hard drive and to an 
external Maxtor hard drive. Then using the flash drives I do a restore to a 
different laptop that has Vista.

What worries me is all my data being backed up??? I can do backup one right 
after another and get different KB's. Another odd thing is yesterday when I 
did check repair I got the first message in years that I needed to fix and 
incorrect repository. I looked at the source it referred me to and I had not 
modified it since October 18, 2008. I was surprised to see the repository 
was not longer there. I know it was there when I entered the source. Could 
error 91 be what caused the repository to be removed. Why no message when 
doing check/repair for two and a half months that there was a problem.

I also did the export to a new file, did the uninstall reinstall of the 
Legacy program. When doing the back up I did not have the multimedia ticked 
as I do not have any multimedia. Yesterday evening my husband suggested when 
I get the back up message do I want to put the multimedia in the same folder 
as the data to answer yes. After that no more error 91. Now I speculate that 
answering yes has nothing to do with no more error 91 that I like you am 
back to a period of no more 91 only to have it start again in a week or so.

Again, I thank you for your message it is a great relief to know I am not 
the only person with this problem.

Ann



- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Earnshaw" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91


> Ann
>
> You aren't alone. I've had this problem for a couple of years i.e it 
> started
> with V6. The suggestions on the Legacy web site aren't at all helpful for
> Vista users since it makes no mention of Vista. I backup to a hard drive 
> and
> get this problem if I don't start the backup immediately after starting 
> the
> program.
>
> After exhausting the options offered by the web site you are left with
> "export to a new file". That worked for me for a few days, then the 
> problem
> returned. I was really unhappy about the solution as I wasn't 100% 
> convinced
> that ALL of my data would transfer. I don't think I've lost anything and
> have kept all my backups, but I still get the error 91 problem quite
> regularly
>
> Jack
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Ann Parsons
> Sent: 10 January 2009 20:20
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
> Ron,
>
> Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the
> hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer
> anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash
> drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I
> can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the
> same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure 
> about
>
> that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.
>
> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention 
> Vista.
> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
> instruction #3.
>
> I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just 
> one
>
> file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done 
> yesterday
>
> and today.
>
> I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.
>
> Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this 
> and
>
> it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since 
> v.
>
> 2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had
> corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am
> actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am 
> now
> too old to do over.
>
> Best regards,
> Ann
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:0

RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Belinda]

Jane

I just tried your suggestion using the sample file to get the list and it
worked really well - was going to create my own event but then decided to
give your suggestion a go and it bought back the event I was missing and a
few others that weren't there either. 

What is the complete Child Status List? I've got "None, Stillborn and Twin".
Are there others that are meant to be there as well or is this the complete
list?

Thanks again. 

Regards, 
Belinda






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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of JCTripp
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
provided list

Belinda,
I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list.
In the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can 
try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read 
about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there 
and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read first.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Belinda]

Jane,

I just tried your and was successful, I was going to do my own but then I
thought I would give your suggestion a go. There were quite a few
events/facts that were missing and are now back - I used the sample file to
get them. Don't know how they AWOL in the first place but at least they are
back now. 

What is in the complete Child Status list? - I have in my list "None,
Stillborn, Twin" is that the complete list or are there others that should
be there as well? 

Thanks
Belinda

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of JCTripp
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
provided list

Belinda,
I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list.
In the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can 
try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read 
about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there 
and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read first.
Regards, Jane Tripp




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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Lance]

The GMail suggestions are the best way to go. A further step with a
GMail account is to have one exclusively for the Legacy Users' Group
mail. That way you can organize each and every message with labels
applicable to the topic (not necessarily the Subject). I have nearly
9000 UG messages in the archives for this address - all specifically
about Legacy. GMail can find any topic amazingly fast.

Lance

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:50 AM,   wrote:
> Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we  get on LUG???  I do keep some
> and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy  Sources, Legacy Locations, Legacy
> Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, Legacy  pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy
> BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy "Ibid", but has  anyone got a good suggestion?   
> I
> hate to throw or delete anything  good   How do others do this?  The subjectt
> line sure helps!
>
> **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Belinda]

Thanks Ron and Jane,

Ron I was being lazy I suppose. As I tend to use narratives I was hoping to
utilize the pre-defined sentences. Oh well, best come up with my own not
that that is too difficult but I would have been interested to see what
sentence the output would have been from the pre-defined sentence. 

Thanks again,
Belinda


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
provided list


Belinda,
 
Why not just add Event/Fact definitions as you want them? View>Master
Lists>Event Definitions>Add



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> From: jctr...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
provided list
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:50:55 -0600
>
> Belinda,
> I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list.
> In the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can
> try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read
> about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there
> and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read
first.
> Regards, Jane Tripp
> - Original Message -
> From: Belinda
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
> provided list
>
>
> Thanks Jenny and John for your replies.
>
> Now here is where it gets interesting. I'd actually looked to see if it
was
> provided as one of the events/facts before I had posted to the LUG but it
> isn't there... and I've checked again after receiving your messages.
>
> How do I get it back...and any others that might have gone with it without
> loosing the new ones that I have added to the list?
>
> Suggestions with this would be also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Belinda
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenny M Benson
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description
>
> Jenny wrote -
> I have used the Physical Description Fact/Event. This is one of the
> Legacy-provided Facts/Events.
>
> (I have deliberately used the wording "Facts/Events" because I think
> perhaps people sometimes forget that although often just "Event" is
> used, for simplicity, the heading "Event/Fact" is used in Legacy in a
> few places and if you look up "Fact" in the Help you will be directed to
> "Event" pages. So Events don't have to be just Events, they can be
> Facts as well!)
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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