from:"Pat"

I checked to see if I had typed the words correctly in the notes 
and they were; however, when I previewed some notes I noticed
that several of the words had spaces in them that shouldn't have 
been there.  How do I prevent this?  Thanks. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] preventing incorrect spaces within words in Notes

I was going to print out part of my family so went to the descendant book 
report.  Before I printed them, I took a look at the "Preview" screen and saw 
the spaces in several of the words.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] preventing incorrect spaces within words in Notes 


  On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:35:43 -0600, "Pat Jones" 
  wrote:

  >when I previewed some notes I noticed
  >that several of the words had spaces in them that shouldn't have 
  >been there.

  How did you "preview" them?
   
  -- 

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[LegacyUG] addendum to spaces in words

I have many areas, again in notes, where I have tables.  However, 
they don't print out as tables.  Was this ever fixed and if so, 
how do I do it?  You know, tables of people with date, place, 
age, etc.  Thanks again. 




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[LegacyUG] preventing incorrect spaces within words in Notes

Thanks all for your suggestions.  Yes, I had the same problem 
with the spaces when I switched from FTM AND I HAD THOSE ALL 
FIXED but they are reappearing in the new notes that I've 
entered.  And I still can't get the tables to hold to the correct 
spacing.  Sometimes it's so bad that I can hardly tell what needs 
to go where. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Dropbox to sync Legacy

2009-02-04 Thread Pat Jones

Kathy Cardoza,

Need some help with Dropbox.  Please email me at kin-hunte...@cox.net so I can 
keep this offline.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Cardoza 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:29 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Dropbox to sync Legacy

  Hi Everyone

  I apologize in advance for the length of this post but I wanted to  
  share with everyone how I am keeping my Legacy files synced and  
  current between my two computers as I think this is a concern to many  
  of us that use more than one computer. I routinely work on both my  
  computers in Legacy, adding and changing the data. I try to keep it  
  all sorted in my little brain as to which one was the most up-to-date  
  copy, but it isn't always easy to do that and sometimes I'm just not  
  100% sure which one I used last. I fear I was overwriting newly  
  created data on occasion.  Enter Dropbox. I have been using this for a  
  while now to keep various files in sync between my two computers and  
  it works beautifully. I had even been backing up my Legacy files to  
  Dropbox so that each computer had access to backups in the same  
  (synced) location, but now I'm actually storing my Legacy Data files  
  in Dropbox and it works great!

  To explain .

  First, to learn more about Dropbox, go to http://www.getdropbox.com/.   
  Basically, it is a FREE little program that you download and install  
  on each of your computers that you'd like to keep in sync. On each  
  computer, it creates a Dropbox folder. Whatever you put into that  
  folder, gets synced to your Dropbox account on the Internet and then  
  to your other computer(s) with the same setup. It happens very  
  quickly, usually within seconds, depending on the size of the file.  
  The beauty of this, is that it only depends on the Internet to do the  
  syncing, so your data sits in the Dropbox folder on your computer,  
  always available to you. You don't have to access it on the Internet.  
  AND, that same data now sits on the Dropbox server as an off-site  
  backup to you AND available to you from any computer, anywhere through  
  the web interface! It can't get any better than this!

  This was recently written about by Dick Eastman in a recent Plus  
  version of his newsletter and he sings its praises highly. I had used  
  it before but his newsletter gave me the idea to use it to store and  
  sync my Legacy data files. I'm so glad I did. Dropbox only syncs  
  changes when you close a file. So, in Legacy, when I am through  
  working in my file, I close it (you don't have to quit the program)  
  and it immediately syncs to my Dropbox folder, then to the Internet,  
  then to the Dropbox folder on my other computer. No more wondering if  
  I am using the most current version of my data!

  This is free and works on both Macs and Windows. You are allowed 2GB  
  of storage space and you can pay for more if you need it. Oh, and by  
  the way, it works beautifully if you are a Mac user like I am, using  
  Legacy from within Parallels or one of the other virtualization  
  programs. Legacy knows to look for my data in the Dropbox folder and  
  all my images and documents I link to from my Mac folders.

  I hope this may provide a solution to some of you. If you've been  
  thinking or wondering about Dropbox, give it a try. You won't be sorry!

  Kathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tables within Notes (was preventing incorrect spaces within words in Notes)

2009-02-04 Thread Pat Jones

Mary,

You see the same flaw I see with Gene's method and no, unfortunately the table 
fix was not included in version 7; however, I am told that it's been proposed, 
at least, to the programmers.  Maybe in version 8, or 9, or sometime.  I would 
have thought the lack of formatting for tables would have been a big howl by 
the Legacy users, not just you and me. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Young 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tables within Notes (was preventing incorrect spaces 
within words in Notes)


  Gene wrote
  >  I created the following table in notes (latest build, v7 Deluxe) in my
  > sample file:
  >
  >  one | two | three | four
  >  one | two | three | four
  >  one | two | three | four
  >  one | two | three | four
  >  one | two | three | four
  >
  >  It displayed correctly in every report and view I previewed it in.

  Gene, IMHO This is not a Table, it's a series of words with the pipe
  symbol as separator.
  And yes of course it displays correctly -  you have used the same word
  in each column, giving the _same width_
  Does it work with this?
  one | six | eleven| fifteen
  two | seven | twelve| sixteen
  three | eight | thirteen| seventeen
  four | nine| fourteen| eighteen
  five | ten| fourteen| nineteen

  If v7 uses _tabs_ within notes to create a Table, I might be tempted
  to upgrade to v7 DeLuxe!!

  Mary Young



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[LegacyUG] Delete some items in Location list

2009-02-06 Thread Pat Jones

I need to delete some items from my location list.  No one is 
using the item so I can't go there and delete it and I can't find 
any way to delete it in the list itself.  There's probably 30 or 
so that I'd like to delete and it's a big database.  Help and/or 
suggestions? 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete some items in Location list

2009-02-06 Thread Pat Jones

Me, too. Thanks Mike.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Young 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete some items in Location list


  Ooh, err, egg on my face!!! I've never noticed the **Delete** Option!!!
  Cheers
  Mary Young

  On 2/6/09, Linda McCauley  wrote:
  > From Location list, highlight the location you want to delete and
  >  select "Options" (right under the Close button). Delete is the 1st
  >  option. There is also an option to Purge Unused locations.
  >
  >  Linda M.



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[LegacyUG] Dropbox questions

2009-02-12 Thread Pat Jones

I've really fallen in love with this program but have only used 
it to automatically transfer my Legacy data from one computer to 
another (both mine and both running the same version of Legacy 
updates and I'm located in California).

Questions:
What happens if Legacy has another update and I install it on my 
main computer but NOT on the other one?  Will that confuse the 
"Dropbox" program?

My cousin in Florida does NOT have Legacy on her computer, nor 
does she have any other genealogy program.  I want to send her 
the family tree so that she can add informtion about her part of 
the family.  Does she have to have the paid version of Legacy on 
her computer or will the transfer work on the free version?  Then 
she will send it to "Dropbox" and I get it on my computer

My other cousin lives far away from me as well and uses FTM.  I 
want to send him the family tree so that he can add his part. 
How does he go about doing this?  Would he download the free 
Legacy, make a GEDCOM with his FTM, move it over to the Legacy 
and then use "Dropbox" to send it back to me?

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[LegacyUG] saving file, etc

2008-04-14 Thread Pat Jones

I just ran into a problem and can't come up with an answer.  

I need to make a presentation by giving a demonstration using Legacy and 
thought the easiest way to make it clear to the viewers would be to make a 
step-by-step view of the index file as the changes were made to it.  I first 
made a copy of the file and saved it under a different name, say file 1.  On 
file 1, I then made the changes I wanted to show, closed that file down and 
backed it up.  Now I should have the original file and file 1, the original 
without the changes and file 1 with the changes.  I wanted to make sure that I 
had both files  the way I wanted them before I made the next change but when I 
went back to the original file the changes I had made to the file called file 1 
were on the original file as well.

Surely, there is the capability within Legacy to do this but I can't find a 
way.  Any help out there?  






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Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc

2008-04-14 Thread Pat Jones

Exactly what I am doing; however, have you ever looked back at the "G" file to 
see if it is reading as it was originally?  Mine isn't - it is reading like the 
"Gmonth" file.  I have no idea what is going on.
  - Original Message - 
  From: ronald ferguson 
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc

  I am not quite sure that I follow exactly what you are doing, but this is 
something I do every month when I receive my brother-in-law's back-up for 
incorporating into my website, as I have to remove from his data the records 
which are common to mine.

  This is how I do it:

  I open his file called "G" into Legacy and immediately "Save As" "Gmonth". 
You should now see that your active file is called "Gmonth" and no longer "G". 
I then do all the work on this file as normal and back-up when finished.

  Never had a problem!

  Ron Ferguson

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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc
  Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:53:13 -0500

  I just ran into a problem and can't come up with an answer.

  I need to make a presentation by giving a demonstration using Legacy and 
thought the easiest way to make it clear to the viewers would be to make a 
step-by-step view of the index file as the changes were made to it.  I first 
made a copy of the file and saved it under a different name, say file 1.  On 
file 1, I then made the changes I wanted to show, closed that file down and 
backed it up.  Now I should have the original file and file 1, the original 
without the changes and file 1 with the changes.  I wanted to make sure that I 
had both files  the way I wanted them before I made the next change but when I 
went back to the original file the changes I had made to the file called file 1 
were on the original file as well.

  Surely, there is the capability within Legacy to do this but I can't find a 
way.  Any help out there?

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Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc

2008-04-14 Thread Pat Jones


Cathy, Sherry, Ron and Jenny:

I first copied the original file using the save as, then made the changes to 
the new file.  When I went back to see the original file, it too had changed 
to match the new file (easy to tell the change as the original file had 
several more columns in the index view than the new file did; after deleting 
those columns in the new file and then going back to look at the original 
file, those columns were missing in the original file as well.)


I asked Sherry for help and am eagerly awaiting what she can come up with.

BTW, I'm using the latest updated version 6.


- Original Message - 
From: Cathy

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc


It sounds like you renamed the original file instead of copying it.
If you did it within Legacy, you must use Save As, to create a copy.
Then make sure you are working in your new file.

Is it possible that the changes are only in the original file?

You can't write to two files at once.

Or did you think a Legacy file was like a Word document and that you
could make the changes and then save as a different file leaving the
original untouched? The order is crucial. Everything you change in
Legacy is saved to the file on the fly.

Cathy

At 05:29 AM 15/04/2008, you wrote:


Exactly what I am doing; however, have you ever looked back at the
"G" file to see if it is reading as it was originally?  Mine isn't -
it is reading like the "Gmonth" file.  I have no idea what is going on.
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To:
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc


I am not quite sure that I follow exactly what you are doing, but
this is something I do every month when I receive my
brother-in-law's back-up for incorporating into my website, as I
have to remove from his data the records which are common to mine.

This is how I do it:

I open his file called "G" into Legacy and immediately "Save As"
"Gmonth". You should now see that your active file is called
"Gmonth" and no longer "G". I then do all the work on this file as
normal and back-up when finished.

Never had a problem!

Ron Ferguson


I just ran into a problem and can't come up with an answer.

I need to make a presentation by giving a demonstration using Legacy
and thought the easiest way to make it clear to the viewers would be
to make a step-by-step view of the index file as the changes were
made to it.  I first made a copy of the file and saved it under a
different name, say file 1.  On file 1, I then made the changes I
wanted to show, closed that file down and backed it up.  Now I
should have the original file and file 1, the original without the
changes and file 1 with the changes.  I wanted to make sure that I
had both files  the way I wanted them before I made the next change
but when I went back to the original file the changes I had made to
the file called file 1 were on the original file as well.

Surely, there is the capability within Legacy to do this but I can't
find a way.  Any help out there?





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Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc

2008-04-15 Thread Pat Jones

Bill,

You were right on.  I received a message from our Sherry "Support" stating 
virtually the same thing.   So the problem wasn't in how I was trying to save a 
"family file" but was in not saving the various setups of the customized 
columns.  Hadn't thought of that just taking it for granted that once a file 
was saved, everything about that file had been saved.  Something new learned! 

Thanks to all for your suggestions.   And yes, there would have been several 
different ways to set up the demo but this one really shows some of the more 
unknown capabilities of Legacy.

Pat of the "AHA" moment!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Wilson 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc


  As I understand your post You want to change which colums are
  displayed in the index view and have several views with different
  colums showing. If this is the case then here's how...

  1. In index view right mouse click on the column heading above the names.

  2. Click on customize. In the pop-up, select the colums you want
  displayed and then on the right side of the pop-up click save. In the
  next pop-up give it a file name and save it.

  3.Modify the colums again then save to a different name.

  4.Do this for as many views as you need. Then the next time you right
  click on the header above the names in the list it will let you select
  one of the saved views.



  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Pat Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > Cathy, Sherry, Ron and Jenny:
  >
  > I first copied the original file using the save as, then made the changes to
  > the new file.  When I went back to see the original file, it too had changed
  > to match the new file (easy to tell the change as the original file had
  > several more columns in the index view than the new file did; after deleting
  > those columns in the new file and then going back to look at the original
  > file, those columns were missing in the original file as well.)
  >
  > I asked Sherry for help and am eagerly awaiting what she can come up with.
  >
  > BTW, I'm using the latest updated version 6.
  >
  >
  > - Original Message - From: Cathy
  > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:27 PM
  >
  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc
  >
  >
  >
  > It sounds like you renamed the original file instead of copying it.
  > If you did it within Legacy, you must use Save As, to create a copy.
  > Then make sure you are working in your new file.
  >
  > Is it possible that the changes are only in the original file?
  >
  > You can't write to two files at once.
  >
  > Or did you think a Legacy file was like a Word document and that you
  > could make the changes and then save as a different file leaving the
  > original untouched? The order is crucial. Everything you change in
  > Legacy is saved to the file on the fly.
  >
  > Cathy
  >
  > At 05:29 AM 15/04/2008, you wrote:
  >
  > > Exactly what I am doing; however, have you ever looked back at the
  > > "G" file to see if it is reading as it was originally?  Mine isn't -
  > > it is reading like the "Gmonth" file.  I have no idea what is going on.
  > > - Original Message -
  > > From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>ronald ferguson
  > > To:
  > >
  > 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com>legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  > >
  > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:08 PM
  > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc
  > >
  > >
  > > I am not quite sure that I follow exactly what you are doing, but
  > > this is something I do every month when I receive my
  > > brother-in-law's back-up for incorporating into my website, as I
  > > have to remove from his data the records which are common to mine.
  > >
  > > This is how I do it:
  > >
  > > I open his file called "G" into Legacy and immediately "Save As"
  > > "Gmonth". You should now see that your active file is called
  > > "Gmonth" and no longer "G". I then do all the work on this file as
  > > normal and back-up when finished.
  > >
  > > Never had a problem!
  > >
  > > Ron Ferguson
  > >
  > >
  > > I just ran into a problem and can't come up with an answer.
  > >
  > > I need to make a presentation by giving a demonstration using Legacy
  > > and thought the easiest way to make it clear to the viewers would be
  > > to make a step-by-step view of the index file as the changes were
  > > made to it.

[LegacyUG] Curious why: difference between "contains" and "equal to"

2008-04-16 Thread Pat Jones

I set up my search equation to find all parties in the database 
that (1) do not have a birth date OR (2) do not have a death date 
and in the "How to look" I first chose "contains" and in the 
"What to look for" I left blank, but that didn't accomplish what 
I wanted.  I went back to the search equation and chose "Equal 
to" leaving everything else the same and that worked.  Now I'm 
curious why; it would seem that, at least in this case, both mean 
the same. 




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[LegacyUG] V6 -- Error 3021

2008-05-22 Thread Pat Hickin


When I attempt to enter, e.g., a new parent, I get an Error 3021 message:
Error getting next deleted MRIN  
Error 3021: No current record.

Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

If I click "Yes" I keep getting the same message.
If I click Yes, No, Yes, No, the Error message disappears and I am able 
to enter the name and any other information.


Actually I want to download Legacy 7.  Is it OK just to ignore the above 
error messages and trust Leg 7 to straighten things out OR should I 
somehow get rid of this recurring Error message first?


Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] V6 -- Error 3021

2008-05-22 Thread Pat Hickin

Sherry, I did that but when I clicked on Error 3021,  it said nothing 
about Error 3021, and was all about some Jet Pack 4!!!???


As I said,

Actually I want to download Legacy 7.  Is it OK just to ignore the above 
error messages and trust Leg 7 to straighten things out OR should I 
somehow get rid of this recurring Error message first?


Pat
Sherry/Support wrote:

Pat,
Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Solutions by
Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message, among
others.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
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We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:49 PM
To: LEGACY
Subject: [LegacyUG] V6 -- Error 3021

When I attempt to enter, e.g., a new parent, I get an Error 3021 message:
Error getting next deleted MRIN  
Error 3021: No current record.

Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

If I click "Yes" I keep getting the same message.
If I click Yes, No, Yes, No, the Error message disappears and I am able 
to enter the name and any other information.


Actually I want to download Legacy 7.  Is it OK just to ignore the above 
error messages and trust Leg 7 to straighten things out OR should I 
somehow get rid of this recurring Error message first?


Thanks
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[LegacyUG] Help with Install password for Legacy 7.0 Free version

2008-06-03 Thread Pat Walker

Very frustrating--I am a paid customer.  I wanted to upgrade to the 7.0 
Deluxe from my 6.0 Deluxe.  First I downloaded the free 7.0 version and 
then purchased the upgrade.  In the meantime, I was told I would be 
emailed the install password (used to be family for 6.0) so I could at 
least play around with the 7.0 standard.


Alas, I got no such email and the recorded message on the Tech line 
(long since closed) had the OLD password.


Does anyone know the new one for 7.0?  I was hoping Legacy would keep up 
with their tech recorded messages--don't release 7.0 until you have that 
in place. Very frustrating to any customer, free or paying.


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[LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is Footnote.com

I thought this new version would update the repositories it uses for 
research suggestions--for example Revolutionary War pension files--the 
obvious choice is Footnote.com but it is missing


There are many other new databases that don't show up in Legacy 7.

I would have gladly waited for the release if more new features could 
have been added, or made widely usable--such as the Mapping 
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[LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration 
with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the 
case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.


I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version 
downloaded) are (from the menu):



Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T 
WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.


Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all 
I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)


Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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[LegacyUG] Surprised by 7.0 Format

I was assuming that the new 7.0 would be tailored after the 7.0 Chart 
program--was that their original intent or?  But it is the same as 6.0, 
etc.  Just got the idea it was a total makeover.  What is the evolution 
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[LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Conversion of data Error 3265

I just tried converting my main database to Legacy 7 and get this error 
(and have to quit):


Error saving married name record.  Error 3265: Item not found in this 
collection.  Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? I cannot say yes, it just 
repeats itself, Same with no, so have to quit.


What's the fix for this or do I need to uninstall 7 and go back to 6?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is Footnote.com

2008-06-05 Thread Pat Walker

I am able to use Family Atlas and the Mapping feature in new 
FamilySearch as well as the one in FamilyTree maker 8.0. Looks like too 
tight a liason with Microsoft--well they are both in Washington.


ronald ferguson wrote:

Pat,

No matter how long you waited I don't think you would be able to use the 
Virtual Earth mapping facility without having IE7 installed - you don't have to 
use it, but it has to be there.


Ron Ferguson

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is 
Footnote.com


I thought this new version would update the repositories it uses for research 
suggestions--for example Revolutionary War pension files--the obvious choice is 
Footnote.com but it is missing

There are many other new databases that don't show up in Legacy 7.

I would have gladly waited for the release if more new features could have been 
added, or made widely usable--such as the Mapping Feature--can't use without IE 
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Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

2008-06-05 Thread Pat Walker

There should be a discounted upgrade price for those that don't have or 
cannot have IE7--as we cannot use the "deluxe" map feature.  I have a 
job with several communication tools that require that I NOT have IE7, 
so I don't have a choice of whether to have it or not.


Cathy wrote:

Have you entered your Deluxe Customer Number?

You won't get mapping until you do.

You can get to the maps through the icon on the toolbar - if it isn't 
there - customise the toolbar by right clicking on an empty spot and 
then following the directions.

This takes you to the map for the highlighted individual.

Or go to the Master Location List and check the Show Maps checkbox.

Remember you need to have IE7.

Cathy

At 08:11 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:
I have watched the "What's new" video and have just downloaded the 
Del V. 7- I know that I have downloaded the version due to
the fact that I can add the "married" name option for the index-  
however, the mapping feature is not seen on the ribbon at the
top of the screen- in fact, it still looks like V.6- do I need to 
switch it on some where?  I can't wait to play with it and really

start to clean up my sources.

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance , Fire Fox

2008-06-05 Thread Pat Walker

Sorry--I cannot use and do not have IE 7 installed--only IE 6 for a job 
I do that has special software that cannot run with IE 7.  There are 
other reasons I don't want it on my machine also.


GeoSci wrote:

I also use Firefox - but I believe - if you check - you have IE7
somewhere on your machine.  You do not need to use it - it just must
be there for the mapping program to use.  I have several other pieces
of software that do the same thing - one if for a tutoring service I
work for - it has to be there is all.

Keith

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Hi Pat,  I use FireFox not IE7 and the mapping works for me.  Love it.
Barb

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is
Footnote.com

I thought this new version would update the repositories it uses for
research suggestions--for example Revolutionary War pension files--the
obvious choice is Footnote.com but it is missing

There are many other new databases that don't show up in Legacy 7.

I would have gladly waited for the release if more new features could have
been added, or made widely usable--such as the Mapping Feature--can't use
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[LegacyUG] v 6 AND 7 Child-parent relationship not found

2008-06-06 Thread Pat Hickin

With both Legacy 6 and 7 when I am adding a new event and am ready to 
add the source, I click on the book icon and get the message 
"Child-Parent relationship not found." I click on the OK button -- I 
have to do  this several times or it keeps reappearing -- then finally 
it disappears and Legacy automatically closes.  The info I have entered 
has been saved however.  This does not always happen, but it has 
happened with both 6 and 7, which I think is strange.


It may be that I sometimes double-click without thinking, but that does 
not  necessarily solve the problem.  Today in Leg 6 on a trial entry  I 
double-clicked the book icon intentionally and  nothing happened, then I 
immediately single-clicked and got  Run-time error 405 "Unable to show 
modal form within this context."  Clicking OK immediately closed Legacy.


I think it's weird that I got the same "Parent-Child" error with Leg 6 
AND 7!


Any ideas?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance , Fire Fox

Hi,--that's really encouraging--how do you get it to work, then, as I 
get the error message.


Barb Weed wrote:

Hi Pat,  I use FireFox not IE7 and the mapping works for me.  Love it.
Barb

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Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:10:56 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is 
Footnote.com


I thought this new version would update the repositories it uses for 
research suggestions--for example Revolutionary War pension files--the 
obvious choice is Footnote.com <http://Footnote.com> but it is missing


There are many other new databases that don't show up in Legacy 7.

I would have gladly waited for the release if more new features could 
have been added, or made widely usable--such as the Mapping 
Feature--can't use without IE 7


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance , Fire Fox

I cannot get it to work--you must have IE 7 installed on your computer, 
right?  I think that's the key--even if it's not your default browser, 
it is still needed by Legacy to run the mapping.


I was so hopeful and encouraged, but not anymore.  If you don't have IE 
7 installed, please let me know how you exactly can see the maps?


Barb Weed wrote:

Hi Pat,  I use FireFox not IE7 and the mapping works for me.  Love it.
Barb

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Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:10:56 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Research Guidance repositories--where is 
Footnote.com


I thought this new version would update the repositories it uses for 
research suggestions--for example Revolutionary War pension files--the 
obvious choice is Footnote.com <http://Footnote.com> but it is missing


There are many other new databases that don't show up in Legacy 7.

I would have gladly waited for the release if more new features could 
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Feature--can't use without IE 7


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[LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Cannot set Location for Document Files

I just realized that when I change the directory/location for Document 
Files--it does not show up--after being saved.  Anyone else have this 
problem?  Am I doing something wrong?  I click on change (have even 
tried reset, then change) and then browse to the location of my document 
files.


Then I click save and when I go back into Options, Customize, Locations, 
the Documents Files box is blank.


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Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

IE 7 was never part of my OS (XP Media Manager) and cannot use it as 
other programs I use for a daily at home job require IE 6 ONLY, so IE 7 
is not an option.  I just bought a new computer a year ago, so don't 
plan on anything new in the near future and definitely not a memory hog 
OS like Vista.


I use other genealogy software programs and none "require" a certain 
browser, such as IE 7--I will just have to use them for any mapping I do.


Mark K wrote:
Better yet they should write a whole separate program for you with 
separate pricing options.  How dare they expect users of windows 
programs to actually have the browser that comes built into the 
operating system.
 
I hope you also got your discount from microsoft since they supply IE7.
 
This programs cost under $30 and I simply cant believe the people 
whingeing about it took a few hours to get a password (on the free 
version no less).  Before they there were people that had been so 
loyal as they had the program since v5 or earlier and they should get 
a free upgrade.
 
Honestly some of you people are incredible.
If I was you I would consider being a true american and sue them for 
selling you a product under false pretences or something - don't let 
them get away with it.
 
Of course you may also consider suing the people who make the 
communication tools that don't work with windows and IE7 but tht would 
seem a bit unfair, I mean one person makes software that works with 
the operating system and one makes software that doesn't and guess who 
you complain to.  And yes, IE is as close to being a part of the 
operating system as anything can be.
 

 


Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:50:57 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

There should be a discounted upgrade price for those that don't
have or cannot have IE7--as we cannot use the "deluxe" map
feature.  I have a job with several communication tools that
require that I NOT have IE7, so I don't have a choice of whether
to have it or not.

Cathy wrote:

Have you entered your Deluxe Customer Number?

You won't get mapping until you do.

You can get to the maps through the icon on the toolbar - if
it isn't there - customise the toolbar by right clicking on an
empty spot and then following the directions.
This takes you to the map for the highlighted individual.

Or go to the Master Location List and check the Show Maps
checkbox.

Remember you need to have IE7.

Cathy

At 08:11 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:

I have watched the "What's new" video and have just
downloaded the Del V. 7- I know that I have downloaded the
version due to
the fact that I can add the "married" name option for the
index-  however, the mapping feature is not seen on the
ribbon at the
top of the screen- in fact, it still looks like V.6- do I
need to switch it on some where?  I can't wait to play
with it and really
start to clean up my sources.

Thanks,
Shelly





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Re: [LegacyUG] v 6 AND 7 Child-parent relationship not found

2008-06-07 Thread Pat Hickin

Sorry, let me try again.  However, I didn't send an attachment so I 
don't understand that.


Anyway, here's the problem:

With both Legacy 6 and 7 when I am adding a new event and am ready to 
add the source, I click on the book icon and get the message 
"Child-Parent relationship not found." I click on the OK button -- I 
have to do  this several times or it keeps reappearing -- then finally 
it disappears and Legacy automatically closes.  The info I have entered 
has been saved however.  This does not always happen, but it has 
happened with both 6 and 7, which I think is strange.


It may be that I sometimes double-click without thinking, but that does 
not  necessarily solve the problem.  Today in Leg 6 on a trial entry  I 
double-clicked the book icon intentionally and  nothing happened, then I 
immediately single-clicked and got  Run-time error 405 "Unable to show 
modal form within this context."  Clicking OK immediately closed Legacy.


I think it's weird that I got the same "Parent-Child" error with Leg 6 
AND 7!


Any ideas?

Pat

GeoSci wrote:

Pat,
  TEXT only and NO ATTACHMENTS of LUG!!
Keith

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[LegacyUG] [Fwd: v 6 AND 7 Child-parent relationship not found]

2008-06-07 Thread Pat Hickin




With both Legacy 6 and 7 when I am adding a new event and am ready to 
add the source, I click on the book icon and get the message 
"Child-Parent relationship not found." I click on the OK button -- I 
have to do  this several times or it keeps reappearing -- then finally 
it disappears and Legacy automatically closes.  The info I have entered 
has been saved however.  This does not always happen, but it has 
happened with both 6 and 7, which I think is strange.


It may be that I sometimes double-click without thinking, but that does 
not  necessarily solve the problem.  Today in Leg 6 on a trial entry  I 
double-clicked the book icon intentionally and  nothing happened, then I 
immediately single-clicked and got  Run-time error 405 "Unable to show 
modal form within this context."  Clicking OK immediately closed Legacy.


I think it's weird that I got the same "Parent-Child" error with Leg 6 
AND 7!


Any ideas?

Pat






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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-07 Thread Pat Walker

I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed 
at the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)


Randolph Clark wrote:
I don't think that having IE7 on your computer creates problems. On my 
machine it simply lurks and rarely comes out of hiding.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does
not seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady
feature.

I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong
version downloaded) are (from the menu):


Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND
DON'T WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.

Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)

Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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[LegacyUG] Legacy 6 and 7 -- Same error when clicking on book icon

2008-06-10 Thread Pat Hickin

GeoSci writes:
Your Email still comes through as an attachment rather than a TEXT email??

I am starting this email from scratch SO IT SHOULD come thru as a text email.

I really appreciate your interest and time!

Now to try to be clearer about the problem:>

I am on the family screen.
I click on an individual's event icon.
I get the Individual info screen.
I go down to the "Event/Fact" section
I click on "Add"
I get the "Add Event to John Doe" screen.
I enter the info.
I click on the book icon to add the source because I don't want to use the source clipboard.

This is where I encounter -- SOMETIMES -- the Parent-Child problem.

I don't know what you mean by "this" in the sentence below.

Geo Sci wrote:
*** Within the Add dialog box? I have never seen this and cannot
duplicate it?? ***

With both Legacy 6 and 7 when I am adding a new event and am ready to
add the source, I click on the book icon

and get the message
"Child-Parent relationship not found." I click on the OK button -- I
have to do this several times or it keeps reappearing -- then finally
it disappears and Legacy automatically closes. The info I have entered
has been saved however. This does not always happen, but it has
happened with both 6 and 7, which I think is strange.

*** I do not think it is the double click - I am guilty of this action
myself! :-) But Legacy really does not like a double-click on the
book icon for some reason - I was able to get the entire program to
shut down with the 405 error.***

It may be that I sometimes double-click without thinking, but that does
not necessarily solve the problem. Today in Leg 6 on a trial entry I
double-clicked the book icon intentionally and nothing happened, then I
immediately single-clicked and got Run-time error 405 "Unable to show
modal form within this context." Clicking OK immediately closed Legacy.

I think it's weird that I got the same "Parent-Child" error with Leg 6
AND 7!

Any ideas?

Pat

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[LegacyUG] Locations & addresses - some problems in following standard procedures

2008-06-27 Thread Pat Hickin

d 1901." I don't know how this would print out in a report.
Any comments? 

#9: When I click on a + sign to add the address, the window at the top 
in the blue bar says "Birth Address: Jane Doe [RIN]."

Then the 1st field to fill in says "Name"
2nd field : Sort string"
3rd: Address
4th: City [no space for county]
5th: State/ProvPostal Code

What is the purpose of the "Name" field?  Is it the name of the 
individual? Since the name of the individual is already give, why repeat 
it?  Does "sort string" refer to the name of the individual or to the 
address?  (I tried to look this up in Help but there were ca 30 topics 
under address.)


Thanks so much for any help!!

Pat





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[LegacyUG] The new "Invisible" in Legacy 7

2008-07-02 Thread Pat Jones

Has anyone used the invisible option for some people in their 
database yet?  If so, is everything about the person including 
the name, etc., just missing in a printout or is everythng except 
the name missing?  Curious why you used it as well rather than 
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[LegacyUG] How do I get to the online demos/tutorials referred to in Legacy Help

2008-07-07 Thread Pat Hickin



I’ve just finished using Help, “How to add parents.”

At the end of the Help instruction was a link, saying "To return to the 
Tutorial index, click here." I got a whole new index:


==
“Examples and Demos

The following mini-tutorials will help you quickly learn and master the 
easy-to-use features of Legacy:



The Basics
. . . .

Exercise: How to Add Parents”
==

So I clicked the link, thinking I'd get to see a little video 
demonstrating things, but all I got was the instructions I had just read.



QUESTION: How do I get to the online "Examples and Demos"?

Thanks!

Pat






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[LegacyUG] V 7.0.0.53 - Problem linking parents to child

2008-07-07 Thread Pat Hickin


Dear LUGGERS,

I have had a recurring problem --or several inter-related 
problems--linking parents to a child with both versions 6 & 7 and I 
surely hope somebody can straighten me out!


This time, I had somehow entered John Doe as a grandson instead of a son.

So I unlinked him from Jacob Doe (who was really his brother) and linked 
him to his father, John William Doe (who had only one wife).
As Legacy has ALWAYS done in my experience, it decided John Doe’s mother 
was a 2nd, Unknown, wife, and gave John William Doe this new Unknown 
wife with John Doe as their only child.


So I deleted Unknown Wife from John William Doe (JWD) and got a screen 
(as I always have) telling me that their child John Doe would remain 
linked to the individual at the top of the screen, namely John William Doe.


Fine, that's what I wanted.

However, that’s not what happened.

Once I deleted Unknown wife I had JWD and Mary White (Doe) and 10 
children, with John nowhere to be found. This, too, has always happened. 
So why is John NOT showing up?


(Also, having deleted his Unknown mother but not unlinked him from his 
father, (according to the Legcy pop-up box) I looked up John Doe in the 
name list --- BUT
when I brought him up --in the Family View screen -- he had No father or 
any other relations!!)


Since I couldn’t link in his parents easily, I decided to do it the 
other way round and go to their Family View and link him in as a son.


BUT I was unable to see a way to add him to JWD and Mary White as a son 
as he was child #11 and there were just two columns of 5 children each 
and no blank to click in. I could have probably clicked in the lower 
right corner, but I didn’t think about it. (I had it set up, I THOUGHT 
to Best Fit as I’d sometimes been seeing one column of children, 
sometimes 2, and sometimes 3 depending on the number of children.) 
Finally it occurred to me to click on JWD's screen and give an Edit 
Children command which I did. That listed his 10 brothers and sisters 
and I clicked on the option to Add a brother, and linked him in at that 
point. So now -- at long last -- he is child #11 (he was the last born).



QUESTION: Is there some way to set Legacy so that
1) when I need to link in a parent, it will ASK me, e.g., whether I want 
to link in the father's existing wife as the mother OR add a new 
wife/mother ?

OR
2) if there is already more than one wife so that it will ask me WHICH 
wife is the mother OR whether I want to create a new one?




At some point, I went to Help > Add Parents.

==
HELP tells me>

“1. Make sure the individual is in either the Husband or Wife position 
of the Family View.


2. To add a father to the husband, right-click in the top half of the 
husband's Parents box at the top of the Family View. To add a mother to 
the husband, right-click in the bottom half of the husband's Parents box 
at the top of the Family View. The Add Father or Add Mother window appears.


3. Click Add a NEW person to create a new record for a new individual or 
Link to an EXISTING person if the father or mother is already in the 
family file as an individual. If adding a new person, the Information 
window appears, where you can enter the person's information. If linking 
to an existing person, the Name List appears where you can select the 
individual.


4. When you have finished adding or linking in the father or mother, the 
name appears in the appropriate location of the Parents box. You can 
then continue to add the other parent, if known.”

==


So, I re-tried the whole thing. After linking him to his father I 
clicked on the Mother space, and linked him to JWD's only wife, Mary 
White . Legacy thereupon AGAIN gave JWD a 2nd wife, this one a SECOND 
Mary White! (with one child, John Doe!)


This is not the first time I have inadvertently created an additional 
wife/mother when attempting to link in a parent. I must be doing 
something wrong! But I don’t know what!


QUESTION: SO-O-O can someone please tell me how to link in existing 
people as parents without creating new spouses for one parent!!??


I also had another problem with Help, which I’ll put in a separate email.

Thanks in advance for your advice, comments, etc.!

Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] V 7.0.0.53 - Problem linking parents to child-Thanks

2008-07-08 Thread Pat Hickin


Ron,

That's exactly what I needed to know -- thanks a million. It does work 
like a charm!  It's so easy for me to forget to explore all the icons!


Pat

ronald ferguson wrote:

Pat,

To link a child to 2 Parents, in Family View highlight the child in a main panel, click the parents' icon and in the new screen 
select "add new parents" or select "from existing parents". Selecting "Add" will give you 
"Unknown and Unknown" whilst "Existing" will take to to the married list were you can select the couple.

At present you are only linking to one parent - hence the confusion.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:49:44 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V 7.0.0.53 - Problem linking parents to child

Dear LUGGERS,

I have had a recurring problem --or several inter-related
problems--linking parents to a child with both versions 6 & 7 and I
surely hope somebody can straighten me out!

This time, I had somehow entered John Doe as a grandson instead of a son.

So I unlinked him from Jacob Doe (who was really his brother) and linked
him to his father, John William Doe (who had only one wife).
As Legacy has ALWAYS done in my experience, it decided John Doe’s mother
was a 2nd, Unknown, wife, and gave John William Doe this new Unknown
wife with John Doe as their only child.

So I deleted Unknown Wife from John William Doe (JWD) and got a screen
(as I always have) telling me that their child John Doe would remain
linked to the individual at the top of the screen, namely John William Doe.

Fine, that's what I wanted.

However, that’s not what happened.

Once I deleted Unknown wife I had JWD and Mary White (Doe) and 10
children, with John nowhere to be found. This, too, has always happened.
So why is John NOT showing up?

(Also, having deleted his Unknown mother but not unlinked him from his
father, (according to the Legcy pop-up box) I looked up John Doe in the
name list --- BUT
when I brought him up --in the Family View screen -- he had No father or
any other relations!!)

Since I couldn’t link in his parents easily, I decided to do it the
other way round and go to their Family View and link him in as a son.

BUT I was unable to see a way to add him to JWD and Mary White as a son
as he was child #11 and there were just two columns of 5 children each
and no blank to click in. I could have probably clicked in the lower
right corner, but I didn’t think about it. (I had it set up, I THOUGHT
to Best Fit as I’d sometimes been seeing one column of children,
sometimes 2, and sometimes 3 depending on the number of children.)
Finally it occurred to me to click on JWD's screen and give an Edit
Children command which I did. That listed his 10 brothers and sisters
and I clicked on the option to Add a brother, and linked him in at that
point. So now -- at long last -- he is child #11 (he was the last born).


QUESTION: Is there some way to set Legacy so that
1) when I need to link in a parent, it will ASK me, e.g., whether I want
to link in the father's existing wife as the mother OR add a new
wife/mother ?
OR
2) if there is already more than one wife so that it will ask me WHICH
wife is the mother OR whether I want to create a new one?



At some point, I went to Help> Add Parents.

==
HELP tells me>

“1. Make sure the individual is in either the Husband or Wife position
of the Family View.

2. To add a father to the husband, right-click in the top half of the
husband's Parents box at the top of the Family View. To add a mother to
the husband, right-click in the bottom half of the husband's Parents box
at the top of the Family View. The Add Father or Add Mother window appears.

3. Click Add a NEW person to create a new record for a new individual or
Link to an EXISTING person if the father or mother is already in the
family file as an individual. If adding a new person, the Information
window appears, where you can enter the person's information. If linking
to an existing person, the Name List appears where you can select the
individual.

4. When you have finished adding or linking in the father or mother, the
name appears in the appropriate location of the Parents box. You can
then continue to add the other parent, if known.”
==


So, I re-tried the whole thing. After linking him to his father I
clicked on the Mother space, and linked him to JWD's only wife, Mary
White . Legacy thereupon AGAIN gave JWD a 2nd wife, this one a SECOND
Mary White! (with one child, John Doe!)

This is not the first ti

Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7--formatting citations properly

2008-07-12 Thread Pat Hickin


http://www.worldcat.org/?

is also a great source for published items.

To quote from their website:
"Build a bibliography 
<http://www.worldcat.org/account/?page=login&redirect=/profiles/%7Busername%7D/lists/new> 



Get citations in five common styles, and export them to a variety of 
formats including EndNote and RefWorks.


*Video tutorial*

*How to use WorldCat citations 
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8W7kWMrVNk>* (YouTube)"



Pat

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
The source information in Ancestry is what has allowed me to enter 
sources pretty much "correctly" into Legacy 6, and, therefore, the 
Basic Source method in Legacy 7. No need for the new Source Templates. 
Also, it is worth noting that I became aware of this through the 
Legacy videos. Geoff also suggests if you have old sources that you 
have (perhaps?) not formatted as desired, that you do an online search 
for a reference. The Family Search catalog is just full of them, but 
many other libraries have such things online, too.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: "Pauline B. Cramer" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7



Dede,

That is a really useful suggestion.  I have been mining birth, 
marriage, death and census data, etc. from Ancestry.com for six 
years.  I discovered I could copy text from Ancestry.com and paste 
directly into Legacy for individual fields and master sources, and 
forgot all about the "Printer Friendly" printout.  I have not yet 
tried the new source templates in Legacy 7.  Now, faced with the 
daunting task of reworking sources, it is a comforting thought to 
have a paper printout from Ancestry.com to refer to while trying to 
find appropriate templates in Legacy 7.

Thanks,
Pauline Cramer
Seattle

Dede Holden wrote:

Ronald,

This may or may not help, but Ancestry.com gives very good source
information along with the records.  If you like, you can choose
"Printer Friendly" from the result window, then print the search
result you're going to use, along with the source information.  Having
this in front of you while you work with the various templates may
give you a good idea of which template will produce the best result
for the source you're using.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ronald,

Seems like this one would match:

   Marriage Records > Found in Governmental Records > Marriage
Certificate > Country > Created at local/county level > Online image

If it's just a database, this one always works:

   Add a Generic Source Here > Online database

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Ronald E

Howell
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7

What Master source, using SourceWriter, would be used for a 
marriage record

found on the internet through www.ancestry.com?  I am using the deluxe
version of Legacy v7. It is not a church record but a State/County 
record.


Thanks and I appreciate your help in advance,

Ronald E Howell
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Re: [LegacyUG] detail line in the Source

2008-07-16 Thread Pat Hickin


Eileen,
If you post/copy a source to the source clipboard, and go to the Source 
Detail screen, you'll notice in the bottom left corner, a box that you 
can check that says "Prompt for Detail."  If you put a checkmark  there, 
you can always be sure the detail is just what you want it to be.


Will that enable you to do what you want?

Pat

Eileen wrote:

Hope someone will have the time to try to entry a Source and see if it is
doing the same thing I'm having trouble with.

Did a new Source, putting only the basis information in, and when the second
screen comes up, I put in dates, series numbers in the detail field.
Attached that one to where I need it and go to the next family where I start
another new Source screen this time I don't put anything in the detail spot,
just left everything clear, just save, go the person, tell it to add the
source, but I then opened the assigned Source screen(bluebook) and the
second Source now has a detail line with a date that is not the same date as
the first Source (but a date I had put in days ago) and should not have
anything in the detail field since I didn't put anything in it, so I go to
edit the source and save and it removes the detail line and it looks like
the second Source but correct now.

Well this is taking me much more time to add sources if I have to look each
and every time and tell it to Edit and Save each and every line that has a
wrong detail line.

Now I have checked the Source screen and the detail screen and the wrong
information does not show up on either one of them.

I have sent this to Sherry twice, but have not heard from her yet.

Hope I have explain this well enough for someone else smarter then I, to
give it a try and see what happens.

Thanks for the help,
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[LegacyUG] How to print list of date of birth, no locations, surname, given name

2008-07-16 Thread Pat Hickin


I'm using Legacy Beta 7.0.0.55.

I've tagged everyone who has the surname DOE. 


Now I want to print a two-column list of these DOEs --
with date of birth in column 1;   DOE, given name in col 2. 


Somehow I can't find the choices that enable me to do that.

What I get is column 1 taking up the whole width of the page (though 
I've got the column for 2 inches).


And place of birth shows along with the date.  I can't find the option 
for dob, just for born -- or birth, I forget which.



Also is there any way to get the dates (like locations) to print in 
reverse order? (so that I get something like 1708  11  23 for someone 
born 11/23/1708)??


Thanks for your help!

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to print list of date of birth, no locations, surname, given name

2008-07-17 Thread Pat Hickin

Thanks, Dennis, there's an option for Birth Date in Customize Display, 
but not in the Print options.
I tried the CSV, but I also can't see a way to get the birth info in 
front of the name.
Have you tried doing this in Leg 6  (I no longer have that version on my 
computer)?


Thanks so much for your help.

Pat

Dennis M.Kowallek wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:28 -0400, Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I'm using Legacy Beta 7.0.0.55.

I've tagged everyone who has the surname DOE. 


Now I want to print a two-column list of these DOEs --
with date of birth in column 1;   DOE, given name in col 2. 


Somehow I can't find the choices that enable me to do that.

What I get is column 1 taking up the whole width of the page (though 
I've got the column for 2 inches).


And place of birth shows along with the date.  I can't find the option 
for dob, just for born -- or birth, I forget which.



Also is there any way to get the dates (like locations) to print in 
reverse order? (so that I get something like 1708  11  23 for someone 
born 11/23/1708)??



I don't have v7, but it is probably similar to v6...

I assume you are looking at the search results window and you have
clicked the Print button.

If you are getting birth place along with the date, check your
selection. There should be one for just Birth Date.

Once you have that figured out, I would recommend changing the Report
Destination to CSV file. Then you can import that file into a
spreadsheet program and manipulate things there.
 
  





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[LegacyUG] Search and replace for burial address

2008-07-17 Thread Pat Hickin

I have tagged (with a 4) everyone for whom I have "Mountain Cemetery" as 
part of the burial location field.  Now I want to do a search and 
replace for the Tag 4s and put "Mountain Cemetery" in the 'Burial 
Address' area of their Burial Notes.  I have consulted Help but I can't 
find where it tells me how to do that.


Can someone either tell me where to find the directions in Help or tell 
me, step by step, how to do that?  Many, many thanks!


Pat



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[LegacyUG] I have a female relative who never married but adopted a child problem

2008-07-23 Thread Pat Jones

Hi all,

I'm am stumped!  I have a female relative who never married but 
adopted a child.  By going into tne "Marriage Events" for my aunt 
and changing the wording under the "Wording Options" from 
"married someone" that was in the box for whatever reason (I 
didn't put it there) to "She never married; child was thought to 
be adopted." I managed to change the sentence on a report to 
something more correct.  HOWEVER, there is a lingering "d. 1911" 
that must have been part of the original thought that Legacy 
picked up somewhere.  I'd like to eliminate it and have searched 
all the notes and everywhere else for it w/o success.  Can 
someone help?

Also, in the Family screen for her, it shows the icon for a 
husband lighted.  When I click on it, the "Husbands of 
.." screen comes up and shows "Unknown" for her husband. 
Has anyone figured out a way to make that go away?  I can't 
unlink or delete it w/o losing the adopted child.

If there is no way to do this, Sherry (Support), how about a 
"fix"; perhaps a default to a marriage/relationship but a way to 
click that off on that screen only if there was no 
marriage/relationship.

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[LegacyUG] Addendum to my relative who never married but adopted a child problem

2008-07-23 Thread Pat Jones

Sherry and all,

I think the part of my problem about the lingering "d. 1911" may 
be some sort of "bug".  I've been playing around with trying 
different things after noticing that the sister preceding my 
relative had married someone who died in 1911 and show that in 
the descendant report printout of all the family.  So I removed 
the death date for that party and then tried the descendant 
report again - and the "d. 1911" that was the wording I wanted to 
get rid off disappeared for my relative.  Of course, it is also 
missing as the death date for the husband of my relatives next 
oldest sibling as well.

When I put the death date back in for that husband it reappears 
as the lingering "d. 1911" in my relatives report. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] events - creating new

2008-07-24 Thread Pat Hickin


Robert wrote>
"I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option.  
I only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE. "


You know of course that you can edit an existign event, copy it to the 
event clipdboard, using the left-hand icon at the bottom, and then 
clicking Add (in whoever's individual screen) and clicking the 
right-hand  icon.??


Do you mean something in addition to this?

Pat


Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
Resending this - I don't see it in the archives, and don't recall 
seeing any responses.  If I overlooked responses, I apologize.



The recent discussion about ALT MARRIAGE event (which needs to be 
created) brought this to mind:


When adding a new event, one thing I've just begun to try (in 
otherwords, I have not generated any reports so not sure of the impact):
I start the event name with a period.  That way I can see if this is a 
"precanned" event that came with Legacy, or an event that I added (and 
thus that might need to be revisited and tweaked).


I would think it might be wise to do this with a "modified Legacy 
event" also?  Make a new one instead of modifying an existing one, the 
new one with an altered name and leave the "precanned" on in place?


Actually, as I think about it, it might be easier the other way 
around. Modify all the Legacy pre-canned ones to start with some 
character.  That way those "surely this is set up right" events would 
be easy to spot.  Thus whenever I do a GEDCOM import it would be 
obvious which ones came in via the import and thus might need 
visiting/tweaking.  (With my current method of adding a "." to MY 
events and leaving Legacy as is, the newly imported events would 
become intermixed with Legacy's pre-canned ones 'cause neither would 
have that leading special character.  So it would not be obvious which 
ones might need closer inspection.)


Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option.  
I only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE.


Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Addendum to my relative who never married but adopted a child problem

2008-07-25 Thread Pat Jones

Brian,

I'm running Version 7 fully updated on an XP machine, also fully updated.

I went to the "Include Main Entries For" and ticked the Standard Format as you 
requested.  I also have "Show line back to starting person" and "Show spouses 
for children who will have a main entry" ticked.  Then I ran the Preview of the 
report with the error and the error is still there.  The first person (Sarah 
McKaig) is married and her husband died in 1911; that is correct.  The 
following person (Margaret McKaig) was not married but she adopted a child.  It 
is the entry for Margaret on the report tht shows the incorrect d. 1911.  Could 
it have something to do with me going to the Marriage Information, then Wording 
Options screen for Margaret and doing an override for the wifes' first 
marriage, "She never married.  Howard Duff was adopted."  Of course the icon 
for the spouses on the basic information page lights up and if clicked on the 
Husbands of Margaret McKaig it shows unknown.

Can you suggest a more correct way to do all of this if it will clear up all 
the problem and still show the adopted child? Or does some change need to be 
made to the program to accomodate relationships like this?

Pat
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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Addendum to my relative who never married but adopted 
a child problem

  Pat,

  There is a problem report recorded in our tracking system about carry 
  over of dates from people with them to following people without dates.

  What settings are you using for the Include main entries section on the 
  descendant report screen? If you select the "standard" of including main 
  entries only for individuals with children the report will work 
  correctly. It is the other options for main entries that can cause this 
  problem with carried over dates.

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  > different things after noticing that the sister preceding my 
  > relative had married someone who died in 1911 and show that in 
  > the descendant report printout of all the family.  So I removed 
  > the death date for that party and then tried the descendant 
  > report again - and the "d. 1911" that was the wording I wanted to 
  > get rid off disappeared for my relative.  Of course, it is also 
  > missing as the death date for the husband of my relatives next 
  > oldest sibling as well.
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[LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

2008-07-30 Thread Pat Hickin


Findagrave gives the plot location of a grave as

GPS 37.36263 - 79.84933

Legacy won't accept it and says, in the Help section (I couldn't copy 
the error message but  in effect it's the same thing):


"The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and 
seconds.  The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and 
between 0 and 180, if a longitude.  The minutes and seconds must be 
between 0 and 59.  The seconds can have up to three decimal places after 
it.  e.g. 681234.293.)"


I don't know how to translate it to get minutes and seconds to numbers < 60.

This is the first time  I've attempted to enter Lat and Long.

Can anyone give me some pointers?

Thanks,
Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format- Thanks!!

2008-07-30 Thread Pat Hickin



To all who responded and especially to Richard --

That is absolutely fabulous -- thanks a million!!

It's so unbelievably EASY!!

Pat


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

Go to Master Location List
Highlight the place you are using, choose 'Edit'
To the right of the word Longitutde is a 'Calcuator'
Choose it.
Put the first number in the box Decimal
Hit Convert to 'Lat1'
Put second number in same box, Convert to 'Long1'
Choose Return1.
You have no moved the converted numbers into yout
location.
Happy mapping
Rich in LA CA
--- Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Findagrave gives the plot location of a grave as

GPS 37.36263 - 79.84933

Legacy won't accept it and says, in the Help section
(I couldn't copy 
the error message but  in effect it's the same

thing):

"The latitude and longitude must be in the form of
degrees, minutes and 
seconds.  The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a
latitude, and 
between 0 and 180, if a longitude.  The minutes and
seconds must be 
between 0 and 59.  The seconds can have up to three
decimal places after 
it.  e.g. 681234.293.)"


I don't know how to translate it to get minutes and
seconds to numbers < 60.

This is the first time  I've attempted to enter Lat
and Long.

Can anyone give me some pointers?

Thanks,
Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage sourcing

2008-08-01 Thread Pat Hickin

Elizabeth wrote: "Jess, you will see that Legacy does not allow you to 
separately source the date and place of any event. "


That is SO true and for the life of me I do not understand why this is 
the case.  I wish someone would explain the reasoning behind it.  I get 
tired of having to write little notes --


Pat

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
Jess, you will see that Legacy does not allow you to separately source 
the date and place of any event. However, you can add your comment in 
the source that this is where you found the date, and, if you later 
learn the place, you can make a comment in that source too.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: "Jessica Morgan"


But I don't want to source the entire marraiage lock, stock, and
barrel, so to speak.
I only want to source the information I have, in this case it is just
the date. Sourcing the "where" would be inaccurate if it is not
included in this source, would it not? As would the source status and
status date, if they are not referenced at all.

I must be wanting it to do something it cannot.

Thank you for your response.

Jess


On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Lill Ann Parry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jess,

That is normal. Open the assigned sources for the marriage event and 
you

should see that only the marriage has been sourced.

Lill Ann

Jessica Morgan wrote:


I am adding some people to my database, and in doing so I've noticed
what appears to me to be quriky behavior of the marriage source
options.

Please correct me if I am wrong, and/or clarify the means/methodology.

I am adding my source as I go along, I'm adding people all from the
same book source, which I've created with the new source writer
template. As my pages change I simply update the detail with the new
page number. I then save to source clipboard, over writing what was
previously there and copy to the individuals and marraiges on that
page as I add them.

In the marriage screen there are two options for pasting source
clipboard. 1) Add clipboard source to marraige event 2) Add clipboard
source to all used fields.

When using option 2, it "reds" out all fields in the marraige event,
not just the one(s) I have filled in.

For instance, for my current marraige I only have a date, so I enter
that. However the source clipboard "add clipboard source to all used
fields" "reds" (meaning it's sourced) these fields: marraige date, in,
status, status date.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage and other vital stats sourcing and possible confusion

2008-08-02 Thread Pat Hickin

I agree with Janis, who wrote, "Separating date and place, for purposes 
of sourcing, would be enough for me." .


One reason I'd like date and place separated is because so OFTEN I have 
two different sources for date and place for ALL vital statistics -- not 
just marriages.


Then there's the problem with "Swapping" birth, death, marriage and 
ALTERNATE  birth, death, marriage info. 

Let's say you have a dob of "ca 1850" and a pob of town, county, 
state,USA from Source A. 


Then you find a tombstone (Source B) with a dob of 10 Nov 1849 and no pob.

If you enter the Source B dob in the Event field and click Options> 
Swap birth info, you now have a blank in the pob space. 
So then you have to add the pob manually, be sure you've got both 
sources cited in the birth source field; add notes in the detail of each 
source saying (for Source B "for dob only" and, for Source A "for pob 
only" -- except you may prefer to write out, rather than just use 
initials for pob and dob. )


If this kind of thing occurred only occasionally it wouldn't be a big 
issue, but when 75% of you entries are like this it's another matter!


FURTHERMORE -- AND the following can be a SERIOUS problem that I have 
brought directly to Legacy's attention.


Let's say that the existing birth info has
BORN: ca 1850, Fairfield, Essex, NY,USA
(and your source is Source A-family history)

Then you find a tombstone and enter the alternate birth info as an Event 
as follows:

EVENT: Alt. birth
DESCRIPTION: Date on tombstone is difficult to make out.
LOCATION: [LEFT BLANK]
DATE: 12 Nov 1849
(and your source is Source B-tombstone)

THEN you do a SWAP (Options> Swap with  birth information)

and you now have
BORN: 10 Nov 1849 [no location info]
(and your source is Source B-tombstone)

And  in your events list you now have
EVENT: Alt. birth
DESCRIPTION: Date on tombstone is difficult to make out.
LOCATION: Fairfield, Essex, NY,USA
DATE: ca 1850
(and your source is shown as Source A-family history -- whereas you 
actually have 2 different sources for this info as  the source for the 
Description field should be Source B).


Well of course you have to go in manually and get all that straightened 
out.  Legacy does not even WARN you that it is not really doing a swap 
of ALL ,e.g., birth information or is garbling the source info.


I was not aware this was happening for YEARS and I've no idea how much 
misinformation in re sources I have as a result.


I complained to Legacy once  months ago about this but I see Legacy 
(Beta 7.0.0.55) has not corrected it.


I suppose I'll also send this message to the Legacy Test Group also.

Pat

Janis Gilmore wrote:

Separating date and place, for purposes of sourcing, would be enough for me.

Janis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wynthner
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage sourcing

To the best of my knowledge there is no softwware package that allows
individual sourcing of the day, month, and year of a date, in the same vein
there is no package that allows individual sourcing of street number,
street, city, county, state, and country. I've never understood just why all
packages don't allow this. It seems the most natural thing in the world!



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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 10:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage sourcing

Elizabeth wrote: "Jess, you will see that Legacy does not allow you to 
separately source the date and place of any event. "


That is SO true and for the life of me I do not understand why this is 
the case.  I wish someone would explain the reasoning behind it.  I get 
tired of having to write little notes --


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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage and other vital stats sourcing and possible confusion

2008-08-02 Thread Pat Hickin

I was just making all that up as an example.  Doing a Swap DOES put the 
ca 1850 into the alt birth field, but it also takes out the pob info, 
which was precise.

Remember the ca 1850 was entered first, before the exact dob was found.

Thanks for your comments, though.

And of course sometimes you want to have more than one DOB listed 
because you're not sure which -- if either -- is right.


Pat

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
Is there some reason you dont' put the "Abt 1850" in the Alt Birth 
event and source it? Then add the more precise information adding the 
additional source. I don't know why you are trying to swap the 
information since you have to make a new event anyway. Seems like 
putting the Abt information in the Alt event would be easier. By the 
way, if I were to come across this Abt information after I had found 
the precise information, I would probably just skip entering it, 
unless it is more than a year different.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: "Pat Hickin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage and other vital stats sourcing and 
possible confusion



I agree with Janis, who wrote, "Separating date and place, for 
purposes of sourcing, would be enough for me." .


One reason I'd like date and place separated is because so OFTEN I 
have two different sources for date and place for ALL vital 
statistics -- not just marriages.


Then there's the problem with "Swapping" birth, death, marriage and 
ALTERNATE  birth, death, marriage info.
Let's say you have a dob of "ca 1850" and a pob of town, county, 
state,USA from Source A.
Then you find a tombstone (Source B) with a dob of 10 Nov 1849 and no 
pob.


If you enter the Source B dob in the Event field and click Options> 
Swap birth info, you now have a blank in the pob space. So then you 
have to add the pob manually, be sure you've got both sources cited 
in the birth source field; add notes in the detail of each source 
saying (for Source B "for dob only" and, for Source A "for pob only" 
-- except you may prefer to write out, rather than just use initials 
for pob and dob. )


If this kind of thing occurred only occasionally it wouldn't be a big 
issue, but when 75% of you entries are like this it's another matter!


FURTHERMORE -- AND the following can be a SERIOUS problem that I have 
brought directly to Legacy's attention.


Let's say that the existing birth info has
BORN: ca 1850, Fairfield, Essex, NY,USA
(and your source is Source A-family history)

Then you find a tombstone and enter the alternate birth info as an 
Event as follows:

EVENT: Alt. birth
DESCRIPTION: Date on tombstone is difficult to make out.
LOCATION: [LEFT BLANK]
DATE: 12 Nov 1849
(and your source is Source B-tombstone)

THEN you do a SWAP (Options> Swap with  birth information)

and you now have
BORN: 10 Nov 1849 [no location info]
(and your source is Source B-tombstone)

And  in your events list you now have
EVENT: Alt. birth
DESCRIPTION: Date on tombstone is difficult to make out.
LOCATION: Fairfield, Essex, NY,USA
DATE: ca 1850
(and your source is shown as Source A-family history -- whereas you 
actually have 2 different sources for this info as  the source for 
the Description field should be Source B).


Well of course you have to go in manually and get all that 
straightened out.  Legacy does not even WARN you that it is not 
really doing a swap of ALL ,e.g., birth information or is garbling 
the source info.


I was not aware this was happening for YEARS and I've no idea how 
much misinformation in re sources I have as a result.


I complained to Legacy once  months ago about this but I see Legacy 
(Beta 7.0.0.55) has not corrected it.


I suppose I'll also send this message to the Legacy Test Group also.

Pat

Janis Gilmore wrote:
Separating date and place, for purposes of sourcing, would be enough 
for me.


Janis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wynthner

Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage sourcing

To the best of my knowledge there is no softwware package that allows
individual sourcing of the day, month, and year of a date, in the 
same vein

there is no package that allows individual sourcing of street number,
street, city, county, state, and country. I've never understood just 
why all
packages don't allow this. It seems the most natural thing in the 
world!




- Original Message 
From: Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 10:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage sourcing

Elizabeth wrote: "Jess, you will see that Legacy does no

[LegacyUG] Ignore my question

2008-08-05 Thread Pat Jones

I found the archives.  If anyone else is wondering where they are 
go to the "Legacy Home" tab, then click on the "Help Center" 
button, go down the list to "Email Lists" and just under the 
title of the page (Legacy Mailing Lists) is "Archives".  Click on 
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[LegacyUG] Archives

2008-08-05 Thread Pat Jones

Do we still have access to old email messages to Legacy via the 
Archives?  If so, where do I go to find them? I'd like to go back 
and read the messages about capturing pictures and making them 
PDF files.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List

2008-08-05 Thread Pat Hickin


JL,
I know how to edit th Master Location list to get rid of cemetery 
names.  But before doing that, if I tag every one I want to have
buried in, say, "Evergreen Cemetery" can I get  them all into "Evergreen 
Cemetery" in the burial address field (the one you get to via the + 
sign) at one fell swoop or do I have to put each one in individually?


Does this make sense?

Surely do hope you can read this!

Pat
JLB wrote:
I wrote a post a long time ago about cleaning up the Master Location 
List, but I don't know if it's still relevant with all the things 
people are doing to be compatible with pins on the maps.  If you want 
to try it anyway it's at 
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2007-01-16-master_locations.shtml

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Syble Glasscock wrote:
I merged the files a couple of wks ago and have edited a lot, but 
just now thought of the Master Location List,  this was the only time 
I've ever merged another persons file into mine, and yes, I certainly 
should have checked the file before merging it.
 
I didn't know you could undo a merge, but at this point that would 
not be practical, is there another way to cleanup this Master List?

Thanks,
Syble
--- On *Mon, 8/4/08, RICHARD SCHULTHIES /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* 
wrote:


From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:37 AM

I reccommend fixing it first, then merging. That is
the easiest. You might want to undo it, having two
files, repair the 2nd one. Once the member's fields
match yours, then merge.
Rich in LA CA
--- Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I merged a family member's family file with mine,
> I'd like to "clean up" the
>  Master Location List without having to do it one
> file at a time.  Is there a way to do this?  I need
> to check for the accuracy in spelling of city &
> county names & also correct county for the city.
> Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anybody tried to use Legacy to build an Adam and Eve family tree?

2008-08-14 Thread Pat Hickin

I don't know that this would be any help but there is a Springer family 
history that purports to do that. When I first saw the title, I assumed 
it was a spoof, but the author was serious.


(There were Springers in Delaware by the 18th century; the author 
contended that they were descended from Springers in Sweden who were 
descended from a Thuringian nobleman called Louis the Springer and that 
said Louis was descended from Charlemagne, who had proved his ancestry 
back to Adam and Eve! Or had it done by people who could read and write! 
(some monks I presume!)


As well as I recall the author proceeded to give the details. I feel 
sure it's of virtually no historical value, but if you're interested in 
taking a look -- - -


Well it just occurred to me to Google Charlemagne, genealogy, and Adam, 
which gave me this Springer website: 
http://www.thecolefamily.com/hobby/springer.htm
and the websites lists the entire Springer "genealogy," including all 
the Biblical figures in the "genealogy" (Methusaleh among them) back to 
Adam! Needless to say, there's a disclaimer as to accuracy!


I think it's safe enough to assume that all people of European ancestry 
are descended from Charlemagne since we have about the following number 
of ancestors at 3 1/2 generations per century (assuming no overlaps, an 
obvious impossibility)


2;4;8;16 -- 1900AD(at 4 gens)
32;64;128 -- 1800AD(at 3 gens)
256;512;1024;2048 -- 1700AD (4)
4096;8192;16384 -- 1600AD (3)
32,678; 65,346; 130,000;260,000 -- 1500 AD(4)
512,000; 1,100,000; 2,200,000; -- 1400 AD(3)
4,400,000;8,800,000; 17,600,000;33,200,000 -- 1300 AD(4)
66million, 132m, 264m -1200 AD(3)
512m, 1billion, 2 billion, 4 billion --1100 AD(4)
8 billion, 16 billion, 32 billion -- 1000 AD (3)
64 billion, 128 b, 256b, 512b- 900 AD(4)
1024 billion, 2048 billion, 4096 billion (3) (or am I up to the 
trillions?? by now -- i.e. 800 A.D.

82,000 B; 164,000 B; 238,000b; 480,000 B (4) 700AD
Well a million Billion is surely at least a Trillion!!
So by Charlemagne's time we'd have billions of ancestors whereas there 
were probably not more than a 100-200 million people in all of Europe in 
his day. So we're probably all descended from Charlemagne, who traced 
his ancestry to Adam!






Lorna Voskuilen wrote:


Dear Users,

I started building an Adam and Eve family tree in Legacy and ran into 
an obvious problem: How can I enter dates of births and deaths? I know 
I will have to leave out surnames and wives almost all the time, but 
that shouldn’t really matter as long as I can get a timeline.


I would really appreciate any suggestions.

Sincerely,

Lorna Voskuilen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anybody tried to use Legacy to build an Adam and Eve family tree?

2008-08-14 Thread Pat Hickin


Lorna,

Sorry -- I did misunderstand.  Here's the page I got when I googled 
genealogy "Jesus to Adam" which includes an add for a wallposter -- I 
don't know how it reconciles the two contradictory genealogies or 
whether it includes pobs and dates, all of which would have to be 
guesstimates I imagine.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=genealogy&as_epq=Jesus+to+Adam&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

Pat

Lorna Voskuilen wrote:

Dear Pat,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question. I'm afraid the
question wasn't clear - I'm not trying to trace my family tree back to Adam
and Eve. I'm studying the Bible and trying to get a clearer picture of the
begats and begets. I just want something simple to show the timeline from
Adam and Eve to Jesus, with places of birth and death and a few notes.

I started using the free version of Legacy years ago because I was trying to
keep a record of my immediate family; I have just gone downward from my
grandparents on both sides and added my own children, grandchildren and
great-grandchildren as they came along. I like Legacy and think it can be
used as a tool for a little Bible Study. 


I visited the link you gave and the websites are beautifully done and
interesting - just overkill for me.

Thanks again,

Lorna



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: 14 August 2008 09:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Has anybody tried to use Legacy to build an Adam and
Eve family tree?

I don't know that this would be any help but there is a Springer family 
history that purports to do that. When I first saw the title, I assumed 
it was a spoof, but the author was serious.


(There were Springers in Delaware by the 18th century; the author 
contended that they were descended from Springers in Sweden who were 
descended from a Thuringian nobleman called Louis the Springer and that 
said Louis was descended from Charlemagne, who had proved his ancestry 
back to Adam and Eve! Or had it done by people who could read and write! 
(some monks I presume!)


As well as I recall the author proceeded to give the details. I feel 
sure it's of virtually no historical value, but if you're interested in 
taking a look -- - -


Well it just occurred to me to Google Charlemagne, genealogy, and Adam, 
which gave me this Springer website: 
http://www.thecolefamily.com/hobby/springer.htm
and the websites lists the entire Springer "genealogy," including all 
the Biblical figures in the "genealogy" (Methusaleh among them) back to 
Adam! Needless to say, there's a disclaimer as to accuracy!


I think it's safe enough to assume that all people of European ancestry 
are descended from Charlemagne since we have about the following number 
of ancestors at 3 1/2 generations per century (assuming no overlaps, an 
obvious impossibility)


2;4;8;16 -- 1900AD(at 4 gens)
32;64;128 -- 1800AD(at 3 gens)
256;512;1024;2048 -- 1700AD (4)
4096;8192;16384 -- 1600AD (3)
32,678; 65,346; 130,000;260,000 -- 1500 AD(4)
512,000; 1,100,000; 2,200,000; -- 1400 AD(3)
4,400,000;8,800,000; 17,600,000;33,200,000 -- 1300 AD(4)
66million, 132m, 264m -1200 AD(3)
512m, 1billion, 2 billion, 4 billion --1100 AD(4)
8 billion, 16 billion, 32 billion -- 1000 AD (3)
64 billion, 128 b, 256b, 512b- 900 AD(4)
1024 billion, 2048 billion, 4096 billion (3) (or am I up to the 
trillions?? by now -- i.e. 800 A.D.

82,000 B; 164,000 B; 238,000b; 480,000 B (4) 700AD
Well a million Billion is surely at least a Trillion!!
So by Charlemagne's time we'd have billions of ancestors whereas there 
were probably not more than a 100-200 million people in all of Europe in 
his day. So we're probably all descended from Charlemagne, who traced 
his ancestry to Adam!






Lorna Voskuilen wrote:
  

Dear Users,

I started building an Adam and Eve family tree in Legacy and ran into 
an obvious problem: How can I enter dates of births and deaths? I know 
I will have to leave out surnames and wives almost all the time, but 
that shouldn't really matter as long as I can get a timeline.


I would really appreciate any suggestions.

Sincerely,

Lorna Voskuilen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Pat Hickin

I use either HeritageQuest or Ancestry almost entirely. Sometimes, for 
one reason or another I occasionally use first one and then the other 
for the same census (for one reason or another).


For example I have a Source List Name:
1850 Census-VA-Washington Co.-Dist 67-Anc
and another entry as
1850 Census-VA-Washington Co.-Dist 67-HerQu

I note the repository in the publication facts as well as well as on the 
repository tab.
With Ancestry repository items I just copy the report info into the 
Publication Facts field, e.g.:>


*Source Citation:* Year: /1850/; Census Place: /District 67, Washington, 
Virginia/; Roll: /M432_980/; Page: /215/; Image: /430/.


*Source Information:*

Ancestry.com. /1850 United States Federal Census/ [database on-line]. 
Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: 
United States of America, Bureau of the Census. /Seventh Census of the 
United States, 1850/. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records 
Administration, 1850. M432, 1,009 rolls.


For Heritage Quest items, I take the publication info from the page 
where you click to download the image. The Heritage Quest info is less 
extensive but includes everything I need to find it again in Heritage 
Quest -- or from another repository.


Pat

But in both cases I can usually copy it, which is less time-consuming 
and more accurate than typing in the info.


Pat


Steve Ehrler wrote:
I could use some suggestions on how to document the repository for 
census information I obtained from a specific library. I did go 
through the archive messages and reviewed the recommendations for 
census, master sources and details but still can't figure out what to 
do. FYI, I have Mills' Evidence ! & Legacy V7 and am re-doing my 
sources, starting from scratch with the SourceWriter.


Here's what I've run into. I create a Master source, for example, for 
the 1860 census in Posey County, Indiana. The master source template 
has a tab for the repository and library call number. However, I don't 
fill that in because not all of my 1860 Posey County census 
information came from one library. I go to fill in source detail but 
there is no repository tab to fill in where I got that particular 
piece of Posey County census info.


Any ideas on how to handle this? I'd really like to document the 
specific places I've gotten the information.


Thanks!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying

So then, once the photo is in your family file, what do you do to see the 
source of the photo?

--
Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying

I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I
will explain what I have done exactly.
I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally
added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also
added the same photo to each of the family members
there. I then called up the Edit Master Source
Definition, for the same census, clicked on the
picture field on the above screen. By finding the
photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to
the source. But I don't do this much since I have some
census records where up to 150 family members are
consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos
for the same source. But this is how I do it.
If you are refering to the citation added to the
source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using
the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources
for the person with the variations of the same source
in the detail. For example, I have books that mention
2000 of my family members. The details sections gives
each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed.
I hope this clears up the mud a little.
Rich in LA CA

--- Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, I know how to do that.  I just don't know how
to attach to the image a
citation that will show up in the Master Source List
-- and as everyone has
pointed out, it's not possible to do that.  I'd like
to know WHY!!

--

Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying

Pat,

To display a picture in the Family View click the
photo-frame icon and add
it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the
Gallery and highlighted
click the asterix. You may only display one.

It is not possible to Display a picture attached to
a source in the Family
View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source
and once in the Gallery.

Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying
> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400
>
> OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather
that I want to appear in
> the
> Family View, on charts, etc.
>
> Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a
SOURCE???
>
> I understand why attaching a picture to a source
can be a good thing, but
> I
> absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a
source to an image.
>
> --
> Pat
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian/Support"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying
>
>
>> Pat,
>>
>> 1. If I read the original question correctly you
wanted to connect a
>> source to a picture. Legacy does not have that
feature.
>>
>> 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to
a source. In fact the
>> pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a
different picture can
>> be
>> attached to the source detail linked to a person.
Those pictures can be
>> included in reports as part of the source list at
the end of the report.
>> Open the report options and select the sources
tab to turn on source and
>> source detail pictures.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying

I suppose you could create an event called "Photo" or "Image," describe it 
and add the photo to the detail. Perhaps then for the master source you 
could just add "Image-" at the beginning of the Source List name for each of 
the master sources that has one or more photos attached.  (And also keep the 
name minus the "Image-" prefix for other citations.)

Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying

I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I
will explain what I have done exactly.
I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally
added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also
added the same photo to each of the family members
there. I then called up the Edit Master Source
Definition, for the same census, clicked on the
picture field on the above screen. By finding the
photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to
the source. But I don't do this much since I have some
census records where up to 150 family members are
consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos
for the same source. But this is how I do it.
If you are refering to the citation added to the
source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using
the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources
for the person with the variations of the same source
in the detail. For example, I have books that mention
2000 of my family members. The details sections gives
each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed.
I hope this clears up the mud a little.
Rich in LA CA

--- Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, I know how to do that.  I just don't know how
to attach to the image a
citation that will show up in the Master Source List
-- and as everyone has
pointed out, it's not possible to do that.  I'd like
to know WHY!!

--

Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying

Pat,

To display a picture in the Family View click the
photo-frame icon and add
it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the
Gallery and highlighted
click the asterix. You may only display one.

It is not possible to Display a picture attached to
a source in the Family
View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source
and once in the Gallery.

Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying
> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400
>
> OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather
that I want to appear in
> the
> Family View, on charts, etc.
>
> Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a
SOURCE???
>
> I understand why attaching a picture to a source
can be a good thing, but
> I
> absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a
source to an image.
>
> --
> Pat
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian/Support"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing,
copying
>
>
>> Pat,
>>
>> 1. If I read the original question correctly you
wanted to connect a
>> source to a picture. Legacy does not have that
feature.
>>
>> 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to
a source. In fact the
>> pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a
different picture can
>> be
>> attached to the source detail linked to a person.
Those pictures can be
>> included in reports as part of the source list at
the end of the report.
>> Open the report options and select the sources
tab to turn on source and
>> source detail pictures.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying


Cathy wrote>

Being able to source pictures is on the requested enhancements list.


Fantastic!  I hope it gets into Leg7!

--

Pat


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From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying



Hi Pat,

Occasionally I'd like to be able to note the source of a picture as well. 
Currently I mainly include my source in the picture filename. eg all the 
photos I've scanned from my aunt's photo albums begin "eva###" where the 
### is sequential numbers.


Legacy currently doesn't have the ability to source a picture. It simply 
wasn't thought of by the programmers when they began. Legacy 6 included 
sourcing for other bits of information that were being stored by the 
program but weren't able to be sourced - like the "never married"


During the last few years sourcing has been seen as more and more 
important. One of the reasons I swapped to Legacy years ago was the 
superior sourcing ability. The first genealogy computer program I used 
didn't have any provision for sources at all.


Being able to source pictures is on the requested enhancements list.

You could be very professional and use the IPTC embedded fields to record 
the data. This of course doesn't show in Legacy but does travel with the 
pic.


Cathy


At 06:13 AM 25/09/2007, you wrote:

Yes, I know how to do that.  I just don't know how to attach to the image 
a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone 
has pointed out, it's not possible to do that.  I'd like to know WHY!!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?

I'm talking about one next to the location field that could be seen without 
checking source>source detils.  I liked the idea of putting the # sign 
immediately after the location to show that it's dubious.


To go off on a tangent--
Also, I think it's usually more important to know where one was living at 
the time of death, than the actual location of the death (though I think 
both, if different, are important).  I had a cousin who lived in WV and died 
in NC because he was in the Duke U hospital.  W/o explanation someone would 
think the family had moved to NC.


Pat

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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?



Pat Hickin wrote
I wish there was a way to enter how certain we are of a particular fact, 
esp. locations & dates!!


That's what Surety Level is for!  I think the 5 levels of Surety that one 
can select cover all grades of certainty (or complete lack of it.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove source by tag #

I mean that I entered a master source for 67 individuals, but it was the 
wrong source for ca 40 of them.  And I needed to put the right source in for 
the forty.


I realized all I had to do was to tag was to tag the 67 individuals who had 
the source (easy to do thru Show List).


Then I deleted the master source (and all references to it).
Then I tagged all the individuals who needed a different source (easy as 
they were all descendants of the same guy) for advanced tagging/sourcing.


Then I cleared them of all tags.  At that point I reentered the source for 
the ones for whom the original source was legitimate -- and assigned the 
source via Advanced Sourcing.


Don't know that my explanation is clear -- but it worked.

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Pat

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Remove source by tag #



Are you meaning permanently to 1/2 and remove from
1/2, or keep 100% of source, but change tag, or
something else?
Rich in LA CA
--- Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I know how to ADD sources by tag #, and I know how
to delete a source and
all references to it, but is there a way to keep the
source for some
individuals and remove it from some others (to whom
I've assigned a
particular tag #)?

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Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get "lumps" for this)

How fantastic -- it had never occurred to me that the Shfit, Ctrl bit would 
work with Show List!  Thanks!!


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Pat


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get 
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familyjesse wrote:

Mike,

I am learning so much from this list on sources. Can you tell me how to
select multiple sources and derive a list from them?


Simple! From the Master Source List, select your set of Master Sources. 
You use the Ctrl key to select multiple entries and the Shift key to 
select a contiguous group.


Ctrl key

Select an entry with the left mouse button. Then, holding the Ctrl key 
down, left click on a second entry and so on.


Shift key
=
Select an entry with the left mouse button. Then, holding the Shift key 
down, left click on a second entry. All entries between and including the 
first and second should be selected.


Now, you can click the Show List button. The list of people should contain 
all those using one or more of the selected entries.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying