RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jim, The way that Cathy suggests is exactly the method I use. Having said that, we are both from outside the USA and I know I do not have much use for the Geolocation facility. If you use this a lot you may find that it will not give good results without temporarily changing the Location to that which suites this facility. For both of us, however, this is very much a minor disadvantage. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:31:47 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Thank you Cathy, I've been reading my manual since my post, so your response is very helpful. I think I've had it right in my file all along, but when I read some of the posts, I became a little doubtful. Thanks again. Jim On Nov 23, 2007 9:27 PM, Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Legacy provides a place for the town information of a location - the Place fields. These are stored in the Master Location list. It also provides a place for the specific street address/institution name etc - the Address. You can add an address for any or all events as well as a current residence address - so they can be confusing. More confusing is that when you type in the Name field of an Address, it doesn't suggest from the existing Master Address list. When you start typing in a location in the place fields, you do get suggestions from the Master Location list. This difference in the way it operates means that it is very easy to duplicate addresses. To avoid duplicates, you need to click the Address List button and choose the one you want from there. Having said all that, I add the address bit to the location and rarely use the Address fields except for the Current Residence Address. I don't like the way the address prints in brackets after the location in reports. I enter locations consistently from the smallest unit to the largest, always ending with the country. I sort my Master Location list from right to left so its easy to find all locations in the same town or state or whatever. Cheers, Cathy At 08:36 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: Now I'm confused about the address list versus the master location list. Is the master location list what you are talking about having to go back and remove to avoid duplicates? or is the address list an actual full address such as 123 Genealogy St. Rootstown, NY? If this is the case, the only actual addresses I have in my file is actual repository addresses. I'm probably not clear about what I'm asking, but let's give it a try. Thanks, Jim R. Keener Great Smoky Mountains Tennessee _ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
ronald ferguson wrote The way that Cathy suggests is exactly the method I use. ie putting the full address in the location field. I don't do this at the moment, but am slightly tempted to change my file and use this method. However, I wonder how you handle the civil parish given on British Census? Very often, the Civil Parish does not correspond to a real address. For example, sometimes the CP is something like village A and village B or is some arbitrary division of a town such as St Somewhere's. At the moment, I use customised sentences for Census Events which include ...[Address] in the Civil Parish of [Place] so that a non-genealogist might understand why the address might seem a little odd. -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Thank you Cathy, I've been reading my manual since my post, so your response is very helpful. I think I've had it right in my file all along, but when I read some of the posts, I became a little doubtful. Thanks again. Jim On Nov 23, 2007 9:27 PM, Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Legacy provides a place for the town information of a location - the Place fields. These are stored in the Master Location list. It also provides a place for the specific street address/institution name etc - the Address. You can add an address for any or all events as well as a current residence address - so they can be confusing. More confusing is that when you type in the Name field of an Address, it doesn't suggest from the existing Master Address list. When you start typing in a location in the place fields, you do get suggestions from the Master Location list. This difference in the way it operates means that it is very easy to duplicate addresses. To avoid duplicates, you need to click the Address List button and choose the one you want from there. Having said all that, I add the address bit to the location and rarely use the Address fields except for the Current Residence Address. I don't like the way the address prints in brackets after the location in reports. I enter locations consistently from the smallest unit to the largest, always ending with the country. I sort my Master Location list from right to left so its easy to find all locations in the same town or state or whatever. Cheers, Cathy At 08:36 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: Now I'm confused about the address list versus the master location list. Is the master location list what you are talking about having to go back and remove to avoid duplicates? or is the address list an actual full address such as 123 Genealogy St. Rootstown, NY? If this is the case, the only actual addresses I have in my file is actual repository addresses. I'm probably not clear about what I'm asking, but let's give it a try. Thanks, Jim R. Keener Great Smoky Mountains Tennessee Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Now I'm confused about the address list versus the master location list. Is the master location list what you are talking about having to go back and remove to avoid duplicates? or is the address list an actual full address such as 123 Genealogy St. Rootstown, NY? If this is the case, the only actual addresses I have in my file is actual repository addresses. I'm probably not clear about what I'm asking, but let's give it a try. Thanks, Jim R. Keener Great Smoky Mountains Tennessee On Nov 19, 2007 8:22 PM, Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats available and don't see those addresses in the options to display. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT put the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city, county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the + Burial Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it comes in nicely on the web page. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats available and don't see those addresses in the options to display. There is a secret way to get them to display on the web pages. Whatever you do, don't tell the programmers I told you. ;-) First, go to the corresponding Legacy report (yes, I said report) and check the Addr for birth, chr, death, bur., marr. there. Then go back and re-create your web pages and see if your addresses don't show up. I don't know if this is a feature or a bug, but it has worked like this for years. -- Dev +++ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Mary, Mine have also been taking hours to get through. I have been wondering whether it was due to the Legacy Servers/MSN/General Internet Overload/Because I'm in the UK. Since you are not from the UK and not using MSN that only leaves two options! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:14:57 -0500 I sent this message Tuesday night. It just showed up this morning. Now that's a timely response! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats available and don't see those addresses in the options to display. Mary _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Ron, My reply went through immediately. I'm more likely to suspect my ISP. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:55 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Mary, Mine have also been taking hours to get through. I have been wondering whether it was due to the Legacy Servers/MSN/General Internet Overload/Because I'm in the UK. Since you are not from the UK and not using MSN that only leaves two options! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:14:57 -0500 I sent this message Tuesday night. It just showed up this morning. Now that's a timely response! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats available and don't see those addresses in the options to display. Mary _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
I disagree, given the style of web pages that I choose to create - Pedigree. If I go to the report setup for Pedigree reports, Addr for birth, chr, death, bur., marr. is grayed out. This is not an option I can select for Pedigree reports. It apparently does not work for pedigree. But it does work for family group. -- Dev +++ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
There are places like that in the US, you just don't hear about them. Walker's Chapel Cemetery in Ruhama, Alabama, (locals call it Dogtown) is where a number of my wife's ancestors are buried - but it may only be listed by county on many maps. I think I drove by Devon when I was in the UK several years ago - the road that's barely wide enough for a Ford Focus? I did receive a compliment at one of the tourist info areas; when I asked about postage to North America they assumed I was from Canada ;-) John Georgia, USA Here Here!!! I live in a village and there isn't a city for many miles. We do have a post town but that is even smaller than our village. Luckily we don't have states here, which might explain we are the United Kingdom rather than United States. As for the address, well the street doesn't even have a name. The Royal Mail identify it as the road from Red Post Cross to Balls Corner. So, anybody thinking that there can be a standard way of describing anything, as laid down in an official looking manual, probably hasn't strayed much beyond their own backyard. Jack Burrington, Devon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 21 November 2007 12:21 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Tom, If Legacy is foolish enough to do that there will be a massive exodus of European users as even their basic locations do not fir that format. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:25:49 -0500 ..Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 21/11/2007
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John: As a Canadian, I am glad to know that you consider that a compliment! Am still wondering about what a Canadian with a Georgian drawl would sound likeLOL Kathy At 02:54 PM 11/22/2007, you wrote: Snip... I did receive a compliment at one of the tourist info areas; when I asked about postage to North America they assumed I was from Canada ;-) John Georgia, USA Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Try the Ancestor Book Report which is probably much closer to what you are doing with webpages. The Pedigree Report is a chart with just basic data. I'm not sure what the link is but I think it's from the book reports. Cathy At 12:37 AM 23/11/2007, you wrote: I disagree, given the style of web pages that I choose to create - Pedigree. If I go to the report setup for Pedigree reports, Addr for birth, chr, death, bur., marr. is grayed out. This is not an option I can select for Pedigree reports. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats available and don't see those addresses in the options to display. There is a secret way to get them to display on the web pages. Whatever you do, don't tell the programmers I told you. ;-) First, go to the corresponding Legacy report (yes, I said report) and check the Addr for birth, chr, death, bur., marr. there. Then go back and re-create your web pages and see if your addresses don't show up. I don't know if this is a feature or a bug, but it has worked like this for years. -- Dev Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Just like my friend. Rich in LA CA --- Kathy Shiell-Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John: As a Canadian, I am glad to know that you consider that a compliment! Am still wondering about what a Canadian with a Georgian drawl would sound likeLOL Kathy At 02:54 PM 11/22/2007, you wrote: Snip... I did receive a compliment at one of the tourist info areas; when I asked about postage to North America they assumed I was from Canada ;-) John Georgia, USA Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Rich: You haven't lived until you hear a Glaswegian accent flavoured with a touch of Torrence California or Houston Texas twangtoo bad we can't find a way to incorporate all this into legacy..Oh wait we can.LOL...Sound files coming right up...now where did I put my tape recorder. I wonder how much disk space those sound clips would use. Does anyone know? I can imagine that adding sound files would dramatically increase the size of one's legacy file...would make emailing it almost impossible wouldn't it? Has anyone tried? Kathy At 10:38 PM 11/22/2007, you wrote: Just like my friend. Rich in LA CA --- Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Thomas Herson wrote: Just because you were confused by the Legacy instructions is no reason to change the system. The location field isn't meant to include the names of hospitals, churches, cemeteries or the street addresses of individuals. The Address field is where those things go and, if you only stop to think about it, you only need to enter Address information once and then select, rather than re-enter the address each time you need to use it. Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? I'm going to toss another spanner into the works. The location field consisting of 4 elements is only really applicable when using the Geo Location databases. And then it only really works in the US. You can have up to 9 separate elements in a Location field, so it can contain full address information for cemeteries, hospitals etc. This is analogous to the equivalent Place information that appears in a rival product. Again, I say, use locations in *your* own way. Just, be consistent. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Tom, If Legacy is foolish enough to do that there will be a massive exodus of European users as even their basic locations do not fir that format. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:25:49 -0500 ..Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Here Here!!! I live in a village and there isn't a city for many miles. We do have a post town but that is even smaller than our village. Luckily we don't have states here, which might explain we are the United Kingdom rather than United States. As for the address, well the street doesn't even have a name. The Royal Mail identify it as the road from Red Post Cross to Balls Corner. So, anybody thinking that there can be a standard way of describing anything, as laid down in an official looking manual, probably hasn't strayed much beyond their own backyard. Jack Burrington, Devon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 21 November 2007 12:21 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Tom, If Legacy is foolish enough to do that there will be a massive exodus of European users as even their basic locations do not fir that format. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:25:49 -0500 ..Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 21/11/2007 10:01 Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
And what would those of us in cities do, those who need to include street addresses? Elizabeth C ronald ferguson wrote: Tom, If Legacy is foolish enough to do that there will be a massive exodus of European users as even their basic locations do not fir that format. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:25:49 -0500 ..Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
On 11/21/07, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote: And what would those of us in cities do, those who need to include street addresses? And some of us want street numbers, too! Mary Y. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara Ford wrote I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? I will refer only to the Burial field, as that is what your query is about, but what I say below refers to *all* address fields, including Events. If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
My mother died in Oklahoma but is buried in Pennsylvania. But I usually do include the cemetery name. Philadelphia has a lot of cemeteries, so I think the name is needed. There are also a lot of cemeteries no longer in use that have been built over, so tracing burials without a cemetery name is difficult. Elizabeth C Michele Lewis wrote: I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Don't be a slave to the videos. Decide what you intend to do with your data and go from there. If you intend to publish to the web using Legacy, create the webpages and take a look at them to see if the way you are entering data does what you want. Same goes for book reports. If you intend to submit your data to some other body, find out what they expect and format your data accordingly. Good luck... -- Dev +++ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Am trying to digest all the responses to my query... So, thinking in terms of what I want to do with the information I am entering (have just spent hours taking out the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields, and putting the name of the cemetery on the top line (Name field) on the Burial Address screen)... If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Enter for burial location Cem xxx, City, County, State example -- Cem Topeka, Topeka, Shawnee, KS When you look at the master location list sort the file from right to left then you get KS, Shawnee, Topeka, Cem Topeka I found this the most suitable pattern that I use for locations. Other locations are always City, County, State Should one of the three be unknown then it is entered as City, _, State the _ is the place holder for outside of the USA, I use four places the 4th place always the country. The nice thing about Legacy, you can use a pattern of data entry that best suits your needs, and presents an easy readable format for others. One of the most important thing is to remember you standard patterns and maintain then for every enrty. As others, waiting to upgradt to v 7 Deluxe. till later _J_B_ = - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2007 6:29 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Am trying to digest all the responses to my query... If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? -- Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Okay, I'm glad I asked, before I spend any more hours maybe doing it the wrong way. I followed your instructions to see a list, and sure enough, one cemetery where I happen to have several relatives buried, does come up in the list. But it comes up every single time I have entered it in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. I have to click on each instance of it to see the one person buried there from what I input on that individual's information. So, I need to do something differently if I want the cemetery name to come up once, and be able to see all buried there when I click on Show List. I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, I cannot tell what it might have done. But I hope you had backed up your current information; go to FileRestore Family File and follow the instructions. If you are not certain how current your backup is you may wish to save it as a different .fdb rather than overwriting your current version. If you haven't backed up herewith lesson 1! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:51:34 -0600 Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
If using the Burial Addresses (accessed by the + beside the Burial location) When it has the place to fill in the name and address - click on the button on the right that says Address List - you can then reuse places that you used before. (more than one person buried there, etc...) If you have already entered a place more than once, you can combine them just like you would city locations. To see everyone buried (or otherwise using) an address - from the address list click on Show List Hope this helps! Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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To eliminate the duplicated addresses, go to the event master lists, select options, select combine duplicates. If they are not exact duplicates, they will not combine so you may have to do some editing. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Okay, I'm glad I asked, before I spend any more hours maybe doing it the wrong way. I followed your instructions to see a list, and sure enough, one cemetery where I happen to have several relatives buried, does come up in the list. But it comes up every single time I have entered it in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. I have to click on each instance of it to see the one person buried there from what I input on that individual's information. So, I need to do something differently if I want the cemetery name to come up once, and be able to see all buried there when I click on Show List. I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thank you so much for all your help. I'll definitely study your pages! I'll get it eventually. Surely someone with a Master's Degree in Education and many years of teaching, even technology classes (I know, it's hard to believe) will catch on sometime soon! My problem has ALWAYS been that I want to understand everything NOW, and I know that's impossible. I appreciate the patience and help from everyone. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys
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Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https
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Selecting the 20 duplicates as you did will have no effect. The combine duplicates combines all duplicates which means there were others addresses that were also duplicated. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Barbara Ford wrote I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? Yes. Once you have entered an address previously, the next time you want to use it after clicking on the + and selecting Burial Address click on Address List then you can either scroll down or type the name (you usually only need part of it) in the Find field. By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Yes to that, too. With the address list open (after you have clicked on Address List) highlight the first instance of the address which is duplicated and then click on the bar at the bottom which says Combine the highlighted event address with another one in the list... Now select the second instance of the address and click the bar again. Repeat until you only have one instance of the address. -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements
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Yup, Barbara, that's how I do it. I do use the Death Notes though for things like the Death Index reference ( don't know the name of the USA references) and anything else of note. I am not saying that the way Legacy suggests is wrong or causes problems etc. as never having done it that way I don't know. I find that my way works for me and since the Geolocation list is not very important for UK locations the problems with that aspect don't bother me - and I can usually work round them if needed (very, very rarely) My major interest has always been web pages so I am not particularly recommending my method, just saying that it works for me and I do understand that others who may have different priorities select other options. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:30:14 -0600 I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any
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Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? Take heed of what Ron said about backups. Before you try anything you are uncertain of, make a backup! To answer your question about duplicates, it sounds like you are entering a new address entry every time instead of reusing existing addresses. When you go to enter a address, instead of typing the same address in again, you should click on the Address List button on the right, select an address that you have already entered, then click save. This way you only enter the cemetery's address once. If you are also using the Address List to enter plot info, all bets are off and someone else will have to give advice. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Sorry if I was misunderstood. I was certainly not suggesting that the system be changed. I was simply expressing my desire to understand the system. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Herson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Just because you were confused by the Legacy instructions is no reason to change the system. The location field isn't meant to include the names of hospitals, churches, cemeteries or the street addresses of individuals. The Address field is where those things go and, if you only stop to think about it, you only need to enter Address information once and then select, rather than re-enter the address each time you need to use it. Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required
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Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT put the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city, county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the + Burial Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it comes in nicely on the web page. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007
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Barbara, LOL - I guess we have all experienced that will I ever get this? feeling. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:10:22 -0600 Thank you so much for all your help. I'll definitely study your pages! I'll get it eventually. Surely someone with a Master's Degree in Education and many years of teaching, even technology classes (I know, it's hard to believe) will catch on sometime soon! My problem has ALWAYS been that I want to understand everything NOW, and I know that's impossible. I appreciate the patience and help from everyone. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ _ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Works well - taking this off list as probably off topic. Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 7:27 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Oh, yes, I always back up. Lesson learned in the mid-80's when I got my first PC! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, I cannot tell what it might have done. But I hope you had backed up your current information; go to FileRestore Family File and follow the instructions. If you are not certain how current your backup is you may wish to save it as a different .fdb rather than overwriting your current version. If you haven't backed up herewith lesson 1! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:51:34 -0600 Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ __ __ _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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TNG is easy but tricky. Darrin is quite helpful and prompt in responding. Randy At 03:27 PM 11/20/2007, you wrote: Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Okay, now that I've waded through the mounds of opinions on the method of recording burial location, I have decided the way I believe will work best for me. NOW, can anyone tell me how I can bring up a list of all the burial locations where I did not record the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather by clicking on the +, choosing Burial Address, and placing the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. In other words, how can I get a list of all those so I can get back to them (I tried every search I could think of). The search choices allow me to search Burial Notes but not Burial Address, as far as I can tell. I can get a list of addresses, but do not see a way to get a list (so I can print out and use it to go to those individuals). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson
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Ron, Like you, I've put the entire location in the field such as Kenmore (Mount Olivet Cemetery), Erie County, New York, USA. The short name is actually longer - Mount Olivet Cemetery, Kenmore, Erie County, New York, USA. I use the short name in my web pages. I do this for births (hospitals, homes), baptisms (churches), deaths (same as births), burials/cremations and census (streets or full addresses of homes). I know that this is not what Legacy recommends but I have found that this works for me. Again - Legacy is so flexible and provides so many options for us. That's the best thing about it! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons
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I think that the only way to do this is to go to View - Master - Address Lists - Event. For each cemetery in the list, click on the Show List and tag everyone on the list. Then you can use the tags to find the people. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:53 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Okay, now that I've waded through the mounds of opinions on the method of recording burial location, I have decided the way I believe will work best for me. NOW, can anyone tell me how I can bring up a list of all the burial locations where I did not record the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather by clicking on the +, choosing Burial Address, and placing the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. In other words, how can I get a list of all those so I can get back to them (I tried every search I could think of). The search choices allow me to search Burial Notes but not Burial Address, as far as I can tell. I can get a list of addresses, but do not see a way to get a list (so I can print out and use it to go to those individuals). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who
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Barbara In the pedigree version of a website, it looks like this: ...was born on 7 Mar 1878 in Raglan, Waikato, New Zealand, died on 1 Dec 1959 in Auckland, New Zealand at age 81, and was cremated on 3 Dec 1959 in Auckland, New Zealand (Waikumete Cemetery, ashes scattered). -- Margaret -Original Message- On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT put the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city, county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the + Burial Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it comes in nicely on the web page. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, There are a couple of reasons I can think of: 1.) Allow you to print the address on a label or envelope to send a letter for information on a relative. 2.) Allow you to export a list to import into a contact manager, PDA, or GPS for driving directions I am sure others can add more to this list. Glen Ballard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Well, this might not be the only reason - but there may be more than one St. Mary's Cemetary (for example) - so the address list could be confusing if you didn't put the city, state (or whatever) in the cemetary's address... On 11/19/07, Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
On 19 Nov 2007 Barbara Ford wrote: I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? You only need to enter it *once* on the Address tab. These address locations are a common list accessible from many places in Legacy and shared. So one church address could be used for marriages, christenings and burials. *Don't* enter the same address more than once! Instead click on the Address List button and select the one you want from those you've previously entered. When entering addresses *always* check the Address List to see if it's already in there, otherwise you'll get duplications. To verify if you have duplications click on View Master Lists Address Lists Event to see the listing. To identify similarly-named places in the list, for example Hillside Cemetery, add a suffix to the name within double square brackets -- so it becomes Hillside Cemetery[[Scotch Plains NJ]] The brackets prevent the identifying suffix from printing in reports. Cheers, -- Dave N. -- David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. --- Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
