Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Parents

[Carl Cox]

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I usually do the linking to the correct family before I unlink, so I don't
have a floater. Legacy doesn't care, except that they tell you the child is
already in another family. No penalty for doing it the way you want to. :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] List of Research notes

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Once you have the list, tag the list. Then from Name List (Upper left icon),
Search (bottom, next to Options), show all tagged . . . (your tag number)

Select the tab that says Notes, and step down to see them all. To untag
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Re: [LegacyUG] A minimized window cannot be maximized

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When a window gets off the screen so you can't see it, strange things
happen. I just had such a problem recently. I wonder if that is your
problem.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.4 now available

[Carl Cox]

I have been trying 7.4 on the newFamilySearch. It works great except for one
problem: The list of names on the left that are being worked on can be
scrolled by the wheel on the mouse. But I often wish to scroll the screens
on the right, and am used to using the wheel. When the mouse cursor is on
the data screens on the right, I expect that screen to scroll with the
wheel, but instead I move a name on the left list and the program obediently
starts to retrieve the new data. I recognize that the wheel works that way
in many programs, and I can have that problem in those programs, but it
seems that the wheel would be more useful in moving the data rather than
selecting a name on the list.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.4 now available

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Another problem: how do I change the person from whom the list of persons is
made? Do I have to exit the nFS program, go back into Legacy, then
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.4 now available

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The names the filter works on depend upon the one that was highlighted in
Legacy when you choose nFS. Filtering just uses those same names. I have
18000 names in my database, so selecting all the names is not an option.
Similarly, tag or focus requires working on the Legacy database, which
requires exiting the nFS screen then re-establishing it. All I want to do is
change the original highlighted name so I can use a different snippet of
names to work on, but I don't see how without the exit and re-signing in.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.4 now available

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How does Legacy 7.4 store the information displayed on the nFS screen?

My wife and I have a research database, which I keep synched by using
Intellishare. I will probably go through the database with nFS, but I will
want to share that information with her. Will drag and drop bring the nFS
info along? How about GEDCOM? Will I need to integrate her data then just
transfer her database? Or is there some other file that stores that data?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating

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A lot of LDS thought it unfair that they had to wait 2 years longer than
some other to use the program as well. Consider it a beta test that is
gradually expanding.

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[LegacyUG] ver 7.4

[Carl Cox]

I ran into another problem. I had a Cassius, nFS has Casey and Cassin, but
nFS/legacy 7.4 would not find them. I again brought up Cassius and selected
'possible match' and 'possible duplicate'. One of the choices let me do an
advanced search and I put in 'casey' and got a hit. Then I tried again, and
could not get 'Advanced Search' to come up again. I can go to nFS and find
it, but I would think there should be a way for me to tell the program that
I want another search even though the program has tried 3 times with only 1
hit. Am I missing something? I cannot find a way to search for Cassin.

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Re: [LegacyUG] ver 7.4

[Carl Cox]

The 'easy pickins' on our genealogy were done long ago, and the hard part
well worked over, so I am picking ancestors and looking for descendants, my
cousins. Ver 7.4 will select ancestors, but to get descendants currently
would require creating focus groups or tagged lists. These also require
exiting the nFS list and re-entering it. It would sure be useful. For my
family, with large families the norm, very few descendant generations would
be required.

I am listing wishes as I find them. I hope someone is keeping track.

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Re: [LegacyUG] ver 7.4

[Carl Cox]

I have sent several suggestions about the new 7.4, but I very much like what
the program does. It is fast, and it keeps track of what I have done. Great
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[LegacyUG] test

[Carl Cox]

My ISP declared all Legacy Spam. I hope it is corrected.

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Re: [LegacyUG] tags

[Carl Cox]

Detailed Search. For this search
you on ly need to use the first line and set as follows:

Individual, Tag 1, Equals, Tagged.>>

Easier than getting mixed up with Boolean operations - :-)

Click on Name List icon on top, find Search on bottom, click on Show all
tagged # (1,2,3 ...)
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Re: [LegacyUG] tags

[Carl Cox]

Detailed Search route, because this is one
of the best functions available in Legacy, and when used fully has the
ability to answer many of the "how do I find" questions which appear
regularly on this list. Compared with many searches found in other software
it is much more powerful.>>

I totally agree. However, when you want to find a list of already tagged
people, why not just click instead of pulling up a search? I think the
ability to display tagged lists is mis-labeled - it should be something
other than 'search'.

Carl





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Re: [LegacyUG] a Question

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< sometimes I want to copy and then paste into my database.  Every time
> I do this I get the little alert sound with the comment that I can't
> copy into the same file.  Please tell, what am I doing wrong.>>

I get the same message from time to time when I have the split screen.
Without thoroughly researching it, I have the impression that if I move from
the 'highlighted' side to the other with some commands, the program assumes
I am trying to 'drag and drop' to the same one I started with. I have found
that usually if I click the blue grayed-out band to highlight it before I
click somewhere else, I seldom get that message.

A comment on copying from one side to the other, which you may already be
aware of. When you are filling out the individual screen you can just click
the title of the box to copy from the last saved individual. Thus, when you
are entering twins, you can just click 'date' and 'in' to copy the date and
place. You can do the same thing across the split screen. If you have the
same person in both, but only partial or incorrect data in one side, you can
click to edit, then save, on the correct one. Then on the other side, click
to edit the same incorrect person. Now you only need to click name, in,
date, or other field to copy it. I don't know if the same would work on
events or notes or other screens, but it is sure quick and handy on
individual data.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Changed Email Address Twice--Not getting mail

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When I changed my EMail address, my ISP began filtering all my LUG mail, so my 
attempts to subscribe went in the bit bucket and I confused the LUG EMail 
server. I had to get Legacy support to subscribe for me.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Erratic Copy and Paste Behavior Moving Between Master Source and To-Do Items

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My strategy for overcoming that limitation of Legacy (and other programs) is
to open a word processing page and paste the information I want to copy to
my Legacy database. When I finish copying, I delete the word processor page
and tell that program not to save that temporary file. One small step saves
lots of frustration.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Location list

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I have not seen the obvious tool listed in this discussion. Go to the
location  list, select 'options', and the bottom choice is 'expand/contract
location parts'. On the right side of that screen you can add or subtract
USA and United States. The program knows which names and abbreviations are
states, and does a good job.

Carl


>> On 12/30/2014 3:13 PM, Jane Sarles wrote:
>>> I don't suppose there is a short cut to adding "USA" to location
>>> entries?
>>>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Master Location List

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Under Options in the location master list, try unchecking 'Jump with Edit
Sorting'. You can click 'Help' in that screen, and scroll down to that part
of the help screen.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Jane Sarles
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 9:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Master Location List

Well, I am getting well along in my clean up.  Doing it one by one, but
I stop and do the "Add USA" and combine duplicates frequently. Most of
the problems are commas I stuck in before I knew what I was doing.  (I
guess that presupposes I know what I am doing not, which is not
necessarily the case.)

The main problem that takes so much time is that one cannot go through
in order, because every time an entry is corrected, the screen jumps to
the corrected list item and I have to find my place all over again.  Is
there a fix of any kind for this?  A way that allows the list to remain
at the same spot the incorrect item was located, so I can move on to the
next one to be corrected without having to hunt for it?  Like a little
switch that toggles (wishful thinking, no doubt.)

Thanks for any helpful hints.

Jane S.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Freeze in Search List

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I have had Legacy "go away" while it is doing something, like doing a search
in another database in the FamilyTree application. The MS program reports
that Legacy has quit, but after a short while it comes back with whatever it
was looking for. Very few of the programs I use do this, so it took a while
for me to understand that it was just Legacy doing it's thing and thus not
being available to respond until it completes it's task. Other programs will
do remote tasks, but they usually give some indication that they are still
there. I wonder if Legacy could do that?

Carl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Returning to Legacy - general questions

[Carl Cox]

Arthur, I just read several of the GENSOFT reviews. As I did not read them
all, I cannot make comprehensive statements, but of those I read  EVERY ONE
of the negative reviews focused on a single problem that Legacy had. The
positive reviews were nearly all 5 star, and comments indicated it was easy
to use and the best genealogy program. I suggest you go to
http://www.gensoftreviews.com/ and read some of the actual comments. On the
combined Legacy review, click on Legacy and you will find the bunch. I
concur with the positive reviews.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug

[Carl Cox]

If I could always remember what I am doing, and not do anything by reflex, I
would agree. However, I occasionally find myself hitting a key without
thinking. In those cases a reminder is very useful, and I greatly appreciate
those chances to rethink and do what I really wanted without having to
retype something. I don't live in a perfect world and am not perfect.

Carl


> My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To
> me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated
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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line Ancestor

[Carl Cox]

I am going over an extensive bunch of my ancestors, synching them with LFS.
I edit the starting person, currently using descendants. You can also select
ancestors, tags, or end-of-line, and choose how many generations. Edit is
near the upper left corner of the LFS screen. Once you decide rather to use
ancestors or descendants, you just select the starting person, and have them
underlined on the family screen when you initiate the LFS screen. That way
you can choose whichever family or linked families you want to work on. Of
course when you have as many submissions over as long a time as my family
has, you have a tremendous job cleaning up the many years of zealous
research. (This would probably post better on the LegacyFT email group.)

Carl


__

   << I have all my data in one data base. I found I was getting side
tracked with syncing with Family Search and working on
collateral lines instead of my direct lines. I thought I was
being smart and exported my direct line ancestors. I made some
changes and merged the files. I just spent over an hour merging
duplicates because they were all duplicates LOL>>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving children and replacing people.

[Carl Cox]

>> In the Family View with the children you need to unlink listed in the
>> children's list below, right click the child you want to unlink and then
>> select Unlink from parents.  You will get a warning message.  Go ahead
>> and unlink the child.  Now bring up the correct parents in the Family
>> View.  Left click into a blank child space and select Link to an existing
>> son (or daughter).  The Name List will come up.  Pick the right child and
>> there you go!>>

When you need to link to someone different, if you are like me it is
difficult to remember the ones you are relinking. I do my linking first,
then unlink. No memory needed!

Carl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Transfer Family Tree from Legacy to FamilySearch.org?

[Carl Cox]

Yes, with the Legacy FamilySearch integration. You can move  individuals either 
way, to or from FS/FT. You can also move a GEDCOM into FT, but before it is 
integrated into FT you have to individually ensure that each person is not 
already in FT, and then link the person in the correct place. FT ‘quarantines’ 
each individual in the GEDCOM  until the integration is done. So, yes, you can 
enter groups into FT, but you have to handle each one individually. If part of 
the group are already there, I prefer to enter the others with Legacy FT. If 
none are there, it can be done either way.  If you decide to put in a  GEDCOM I 
can help you find the place to upload the file.

FS is trying to ensure that the new entries do not cause further problems, and 
I applaud their efforts. Almost everywhere I look in my databases on FT I find 
duplicates and vital statistics that need correction. I probably have  40,000 
names I feel some responsibility for, and it takes about an hour to correct one 
family.

Carl

From: GeoPappas
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 3:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Transfer Family Tree from Legacy to 
FamilySearch.org?

Is there any way (from within Legacy Family Tree 8.0) to transfer my family 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Why don't I receive emails?

[Carl Cox]

I will compound the problem. Legacy is a busy email site. I cannot remember a 
day without some emails. I also never have a hint that I have missed any 
emails. And of course I have no idea why some fail to receive all the posts. I 
wish I could help.

Carl

From: STEPHEN
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Why don't I receive emails?

On the two points that have been raised for this issue,


1) I frequently will not receive any email from the list for several days and 
then it starts again. I simply go online to the archives where I always find 
that there is none for the missing days. Apparently everybody had other things 
to do. No problem.

2) As stated by CE, I constantly receive posts replying to previous posts that 
I never received. Fortunately the previous posts are usually embedded in the 
replies so I can tell what the subject is.

Steve







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Re: [LegacyUG] When you die / GEDCOMS / Legacy fancy features

[Carl Cox]

>

To find the place to upload, sign in, select Family Tree, then Search, then
Genealogies, scroll down to Submit Tree. The Submit Your Tree site has
information about your submission.

Keep in mind that you can submit as many names as you wish (I think), but
each name has to be compared with the current names already in FamilyTree.
No more duplicates will be accepted if the program can help it.

Once it is determined there are no duplicates, then the individuals can be
linked, so each person submitted has to endure both processes, and it can
take some time. But any careful researcher wants to ensure that each
submitted name is put in correctly. It is very possible that there are
errors or additional information to be discovered when linking. If the
information submitted is all new, the process goes much quicker.

Carl

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] When you die / GEDCOMS / Legacy fancy features

[Carl Cox]

I forgot to mention that the FT program keeps track of your progress in
verifying duplicates. I don't remember if it has any input on linking, but
you should ensure that you have linked all new entries.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy

[Carl Cox]

I can assure you that FamilySearch will never be sold, and extreme care will be 
used to ensure that all the information there will be preserved. That linked 
database will be around forever, being transferred to new technology as it 
comes available. Also it will always be free.
Carl
From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy



. . .  My fear is that Family Search will also be sold, so I've decided it's 
not worth the effort and I've added very little to Findagrave since I heard of 
the sale, I've gained much from that website also. . . .



Syble





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[LegacyUG] Run time error 6

[Carl Cox]

I am looking at a database I have not used for quite a while. When I start
going down the pedigree, I get a Run Time Error 6, overflow. Evidently that
error happens when creating reports, but I am just looking at the data. I
suspect that there is a bad link somewhere, but every time I try to look for
it I get the error and Legacy closes. I looked at the help screen, which
talks about making web pages, which I am not doing. I followed the steps Jim
Terry suggested, but no change, running file maintenance > check repair. If
I could get it to quite disappearing, I could find the bad link and correct
it. Any suggestions?

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Adding USA to Locations

[Carl Cox]

Reading the somewhat contentious discussions on this topic I decided to try
it. I typed in "provo, utah, utah, usa". I already have that place in my
database, with some different entries for when it was a territory and other
differences. I have my L-8 set for Initial Caps, and I know L-7 will
capitalize initial letters and USA. I have my program set to verify new
places, and I immediately get in the verification box "Is 'Provo, USAh,
Utah, Usa' correct? and if I say Yes I get that garbled location entered.
May I suggest that anyone who wonders how that can happen just try it.

It is absolutely a bug! I have not tried UK, but others have. With the
information posted thus far the programmers should know just where to look
for the problem. I doubt that 'USA' has anything to do with the bug, but
more likely the three letter, all cap country abbreviation.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

[Carl Cox]

I like the reminders of brthdates and anniversaries. I tag all those I want to 
remember, then print out a monthly calendar. Once it is set up, I just need to 
select the months to print, and then I can call those people appropriately. 5 
generations of those I like to call makes quite a few on the list.
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Re: *****SPAM***** [LegacyUG] I attached the images, hope you received it?

[Carl Cox]

The link will take you to a foreign never-never land. Do not click.
Carl

Subject: *SPAM* [LegacyUG] I attached the images, hope you received it?

You've got Document from aud2...@aol.com.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

[Carl Cox]

Right clicking anywhere in the childs area will return "add a brother" and
"add a sister" among other choices. I do not see a plus, but there is a logo
that displays the screen by which you can sort order, select child status,
and edit each child, among other things. I had never seen that logo before.
When you have an empty slot, clicking there returns add or link to a child,
among other options.

When you have set the display for full screen, 6 children can be added, but
with partial screen selected you only get 5 per column.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Report of tagged descendants

[Carl Cox]

Go to >Name List (in the tool bar) >Search (next to options on the bottom) 
where you can show Name list, All tagged #x, and all untagged #x. No need to do 
a search, it is always there for you to look at. Choose any tag number you want.
Carl



On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:24 AM, Jane Sarles  
wrote:

I wish to do a report of descendents of an ancestor.  I have tagged the
ancestor and his descendents.

Nowhere in the manual (at least the printed copy) tells me how to select
only tagged people to include in the report.  I looked under both tags
and reports in the index and read the section on tags.  It says that you
can do what I am trying to do, but it doesn't say how.  I looked at the
"Report Options"  and could not see any place that allowed you to select
only tagged people to include in the report.

It is probably some little box to be checked somewhere, but I have
searched assiduously for it, to no avail.

Can a kind soul tell me how to do this?

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[LegacyUG] Linux

[Carl Cox]

Does Legacy run on Linux? Do you need Wine or some other interface? I would
like to change - my daughter got a virus that encrypted her entire machine,
but Linux seems to be safe from such problems.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fwd: Legacy V8 - Media Hanging

[Carl Cox]

I had a problem with displaying graphics, so I bough a new computer with 
considerably more RAM. Turns out I didn’t need all that extra, but that cured 
the problem. You have probably checked that, but in case you haven’t I thought 
I would mention it.

Carl


> I have some files where trying to open the Media from the Media Gallery is
> proving a major problem. It is only the people with a larger amount of
> photos - I can possibly open one person with their photos, but if I go to a
> second person or a third the Media Gallery just hangs and the only way to
> stop it is to close the whole programme down.
>
> Support has looked at my file and thought they had fixed it - we have
> checked the CPU and used Legacy with no other programmes open but the
> problems still remains - and is very frustrating.
>
> I was just wondering if there was any other user out there who is having a
> similar sort of problem?
>
> Marion
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for unlinked w/o parents and/or w/o spouses

[Carl Cox]

You can go to View>Trees and see all the unlinked individuals. Perhaps you can 
use that data set for further searches if you need to
Carl

From: Jay 1FamilyTree
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:47 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Search for unlinked w/o parents and/or w/o spouses

How can I search for "Unlinked" indiv that have NO Parents or NO Spouses (Or 
Both)

The Misc Search menu will do it for "Linked" persons but not Unlinked

I already have my Unlinked persons set with Tag #4.
But still cant see any way to find these persons.


Thanks in advance for any help

Jay




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Re: [LegacyUG] Location merging

[Carl Cox]

<>

Options in the Location list can take care of GA/Georgia, and USA/United States 
if the locations are entered with some consistency. That should handle all the 
differences on the above list. Take a look at the Options>expand/contract 
locations parts. Make a copy of your file, and play around with your location 
list there, so you can just discard what you don’t like.
Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcing my new Legacy website...

[Carl Cox]

<>





I chose the IGM system, which I found on Rootsweb. It is dynamic, and I had no 
idea that Google would index it but they did. (Also picked unwelcome spam until 
I got rid of that.) I quite often pick up cousins when they think to Google 
their relatives. But I am spoiled to the way a dynamic system works, much like 
Legacy. I have had it running for several years now, and appreciate it’s speed. 
I can also reference the name given by the cousin because each persons page 
used it’s RIN as a reference. When I wish to update, I just upload a GEDCOM and 
initiate the program, which takes few seconds to provide all the display 
programs.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding parents in Legacy Family Search

[Carl Cox]

<>

In both FT and Legacy, you put the parents where they belong, and add (or
link) the children to that couple. Trying to add parents to a child can
cause problems for both programs. Also, I always add the child to the
correct parents before unlinking from the wrong place. That way they don't
get lost.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Check date warning

[Carl Cox]

I have a family that wishes to have their day and month not show, so I put
the [[   ]] around the date,  on the parents and 5 children. I also have the
5.5 Date Checking checked. Every time I show the family of the father &
spouse, his parents, or children,  I get the warning to Recheck, Accept this
date entry and continue future warnings, or Turn off date validation. I
cannot stop the warning, which locks me out of doing anything, except by
turning off the date validation. If I put a space between the end of the
date and the ]], like [[30 Mar ]], I do not get the warning. I have the 2
parents and 5 children with the same setup on the dates, but no warnings on
them. This sounds like a hard-to-diagnose bug.

Any suggestions?

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Check date warning

[Carl Cox]

> I have a family that wishes to have their day and month not show, so I put
> the [[   ]] around the date,  on the parents and 5 children. I also have
> the
>  5.5 Date Checking checked.


<>


I appreciate the thoughts, but I have 7 people with the same usage and only
the father has the problem. The display after import into the web page works
as I expected.

Jenny wrote:
carl<>

I have the space before the year, but in entering the 7 dates I did not
worry about the space, except that each one has a space between the month
and year, in addition to the brackets. Only the one has problems, and other
dates have the same configuration. Only one case of privacy brackets causes
problems. After experimenting I can stop the problem, but why is it
different in that one case?

Carl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown

[Carl Cox]

<>

I think the ones I have came from imports and merges. I don’t accidently open a 
person then close it.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] trouble exporting correct names

[Carl Cox]

If your good tree is all connected, you can use Tree Finder, select your
tree and export it, and junk the rest of the file. Just worry about the one
big tree.

Carl



On 26 Dec 2012  Roland Rhoades wrote:

>  I deleted the names attached to my personal tree,
> leaving the hundreds of other names as disconnected orphans that I
> want to get rid of, without having to delete a thousand individual
> names. I figured a focus group "export an individual (me) and
> entire family line", instead of "export entire file" which would
> grab the orphans, would delete the orphan families.
> But, when I did it, the orphan disconnected families were still in
> there.  How do I do this?

If the ones you want to get rid of have been disconnected (unlinked)
from your main tree, then use:  View > Tree Finder to see all the
unconnected trees in your family file.  Note that you should
"refresh" this list every time you use it.  In Tree Finder you can
select whole trees and Tag all the individuals contained in each.
Then by going to Advanced Deleting you can delete everyone that has
that tag set.

Cheers! -- Dave N.
--
  David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Change country for listings

[Carl Cox]

Go to View>Master lists> location, then options> Expand/contract location
parts. It has a selection for USA or United States, and will correct your
entire location list with a single command.
Carl

On 11-Jan-13 06:39, Donna Newell wrote:
> Try going to Search then using Search and Replace.  Search for all
> instances of United States and replace with USA.  That should work.
>
> Donna in Ardmore, Oklahoma




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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge

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<>

Legacy's merge feature is one of the main reasons I am a fan. Before Legacy,
to merge two files (you should look at the GEDCOMs before you merge, and
clean up locations, names, sources - whatever - in the form of files, then
drag and drop) I would have the program find duplicates, then present them
to me. There was a specified number they found that did not change, but only
about half of the merged were found. I would look at each merge and see what
other family members needed merging, then write down the RIN numbers of the
pair.

Legacy took care of that. Now, when I do a drag and drop on two files that
contain much of the same people, I will manually merge one couple. Legacy
looks around at all the relatives, and tells you how many more merges it has
found, so the number left to merge continues to grow until it runs out of
duplicates. As I did not search for duplicates, sometimes there are
unconnected individuals that can be found that way. Also I always scan the
name list to pick up the occasional duplicate that computers find difficult
to pick. So your experience is doing exactly right.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Legacy won't start

[Carl Cox]

When I try to start Legacy in my deluxe edition, I get the standard edition
screen, and it just hangs. I get this message:

Description:
  A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:AppHangXProcB1
  Application Name:Legacy.exe
  Application Version:7.5.0.208
  Application Timestamp:5053ba0a
  Hang Signature:308b
  Hang Type:128
  Waiting on Application Name:spoolsv.exe:spoolss
  Waiting on Application Version:0.0.0.0
  OS Version:6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:308b583a69fc71d1e0670baa63a2c30c
  Additional Hang Signature 2:868f
  Additional Hang Signature 3:868f927032adebede63c43a8079c2bfa
  Additional Hang Signature 4:308b
  Additional Hang Signature 5:308b583a69fc71d1e0670baa63a2c30c
  Additional Hang Signature 6:868f
  Additional Hang Signature 7:868f927032adebede63c43a8079c2bfa

The last couple of days it has also been acting strange, and the problems
may be related. (no virus detected in the scan I just made.):
I tried to update my program from one last year to the current one, and now
every time I open the program I get a message something like - We were
expecting a program dated Sep 2012 (or some such date) but we got one dated
Mar 2013.

Then the program clears that message. I again select the file I want to open
and it opens all right. That is, it did until just a few minutes ago.

A little more explanation - I caused some glitch in the normal update of the
program in the deluxe edition, but downloaded the updated version - it seems
like there was a minor problem in that, and evidently there was because of
the message that my file was a later version than was expected. Evidently it
was not completed correctly, but now it won't open at all.

I am stumped, but I am continually amazed at the depth of talent on this
list. I am looking forward for that talent being used in my behalf.

Carl Cox




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy won't start

[Carl Cox]

The problem was mine. I thought that I had downloaded the latest file, but it 
only partially downloaded (flaky internet), so when I ran the install it was 
the older install, and it went downhill from there. I finally got the latest 
build, and it installed and is now running.
Thanks for the suggestions – might be needed later.
Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar

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  <>

  I got Roots Magic, but I do not like their way of linking.  There are things 
that Legacy does better than Roots Magic IMO. Perhaps it takes longer to bring 
out a quality product. It would be great to get superior quality at warp speed, 
but I would rather wait a week or two for the better quality.

  Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Upload to Family Search Family Tree

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<>

I think that Legacy will only add one person at a time, but that is also 
essentially what FamilyTree will accept. Each process requires first searching 
to find if the name is already there, and second, putting it in the correct 
family location (adding links). A GEDCOM is handier, because you know what 
logical grouping of families you want to add. The place to add your GEDCOM is 
not obvious.

Go to the home page (“Search” on the top line), then on the search page select 
Genealogies, and on that page scroll down. The program holds all names 
submitted until each one has been checked for duplicates, so it is wise to look 
for them yourself and not add lines that are already in there. After the 
duplicate search, you have all your names in there, but unlinked, so now they 
must be linked in the proper place. Each name requires some attention 
separately, and it is good to add sources there.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos, book and Legacy

[Carl Cox]

BYU has a scanner that will scan all the pictures at one scan per second or 
faster to a thumb drive. You could identify the back, then keep them in the 
same order so that you can display front and back together while you add the 
details in whatever way works. The BYU scanning is free, and probably someone 
at your local Family History Center would know of a way to get them done. Or 
you might find such a scanner at your location, knowing such machines are 
available.
Carl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Obsolete FamilySearch IDs

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If you have extensive databases with thousands of names in Family Search, I
don't think it is possible to keep up. There are hundreds of researchers
looking for better data, and it gets posted. It would be like you had many
computers and wanted to keep the data the same on all of them while doing
research on each one. If I find a change in FT, I look to see if it appears
better or worse, and take the action that looks best, but I do not worry
about not keeping up. If you find an easy way to keep synched on thousands
of names, let me know.

Carl

(BTW, this would do better on Legacy FS)


>>I am struggling to find a way to identify when changes are made in Family
>>Tree after I have linked an individual to my Legacy file. It isn't just
>>when an individual "disappears" by virtue of being merged into someone
>>else, it can simply be a fact that was changed. For example, I can have
>>someone where the birth date in both my Legacy file and Family Tree are
>>identical. But, someone comes along in Family Tree and changes the birth
>>date. Does Legacy Family Search identify this? I can't see how this
>>possible as I don't believe Legacy keeps track of every fact and which
>>match or don't match between the two files.

Although I haven't done it, the only thing I can think of is to use the
'Watch' feature in Family Tree to get notified when an individual is
changed.

Paul Gray<<







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Re: [LegacyUG] unlinking parents

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<>

I prefer to link the children to the correct parents first, then I am sure I
will not lose them and I don't have to write their RIN numbers. The children
can then be unlinked from the wrong family. Children can be linked to as
many families as you want, but the program reminds you that they are already
linked to another family. Just tell the program that is what you wish to do.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search

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<>

I am LDS, but I always look before I add to my data, as prudent genealogists 
should. I have not tried AutoMatch, as that could add unwanted individuals to 
my database.

Perhaps you got no response to your post because those who read it agreed with 
you.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

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<< So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.>>

Legacy provides the best genealogy database I know of, and they ask so
little of me. They provide the free version for those who cannot afford
expensive software. They respond to our pleas for help. And I feel they
should be paid for their efforts.

Other programs update more often, and at higher prices. We get continual
free updates. The price for the upgrade is about like taking your family to
McDonalds. I think that years of excellent software is worth more than
McDonalds.

I could probably come up with more reasons.

So, although my resources are limited, and I don't go to McDonalds, I do
upgrade each time it is available.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

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<>


My comments had nothing to do with the new bells and whistles on an upgrade,
just that the laborer is worthy of his hire. We still get support from
Legacy, with or without the upgrades. I have no idea how the company is
doing financially, but I think the cost is less than most other programs,
and keeping them in business seems worthwhile to me. If I recall correctly,
my first taste of Legacy was around $50, and for my use of the program it
was well worth it, even though I am on a very limited budget. Others may see
it differently.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Download update

[Carl Cox]

I tried from Legacy deluxe to download the most recent update to L8. My
internet connection is slow, but it works. I had downloaded about half the
file in around 8 minutes when a pop-up message told me that Legacy could not
update from my deluxe program. I suspect the timer on the download gave up
and posted that message. It would be nice if the program allowed for slow
connections. (If that is really the problem).

BTW, I ordered my deluxe edition last night late, and had my customer number
this morning. Legacy must be working 24 hours a day to get the programs out.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

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<>

Many times I know a place where someone lived, but not where they were
born. I use "of" to designate that I this is the first place I can pick
up my ancestors trail. To me it is very useful.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

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I assume that you put that as an event? That leaves the birth place
blank.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

[Carl Cox]

 I never use "Of Location" either.  If I know someone was in a certain
> place at a certain time I will make a Residence Event but if I have
> just come across "Of Location" somewhere with no indication of time I
> will put in Research Notes that the person is believed to have a
> connection with that place.


My use of my Legacy file must be different from others. The place I am
using them will not display events nor sources, so I need a way to
indicate the first place I find a location for a person, and 'of'' works
well. But I appreciate how others use the Legacy capability.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

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<>

The software I use on my web site requires a GEDCOM input, and does not
handle events and sources well, if at all. I strive for accuracy, but if
anyone desires more details, I am glad to supply them. I chose my
display software because it displays much like Legacy, with families,
notes, ancestors and descendants. The family who looks at the web site
are mostly interested in the content, not the provenance. Also, the new
FamilySearch web site is not yet ready for sources, and probably will
never accept events, unless a new GEDCOM standard is accepted.

A census does not give the birthplace, except for the state, so if you
feel justified in putting the city and you cannot find birth evidence,
it is more accurate to use 'of'.

Carl


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

[Carl Cox]

The merge in Legacy is one reason why I went to it in the first place.
It intelligently looks for merges, and finds nearly all potential merges
just given a simple start. It will also automatically merge identical
records.

I don't know how it handles sources or events, however. But most GEDCOMs
don't handle them properly, either. Legacy lets you look at the
differences and decide which to use, and allows you to keep both
different items if you wish.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Adding children's birth places to family view

[Carl Cox]

< Children list.>>

Or right click somewhere on a child in the family view and look at
Childrens Settings. You see birth dates and places, and put them in
order if they are not.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Children's list

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<>

Right click on any child in the family view, choose >View, and select
which view you want. Right-click brings up context sensitive menus of
many different things.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Help

[Carl Cox]

When I go to  (no WWW or new.), I do not sign in, I
just begin searching. It has no idea who I am, and I do not know of any
advantage of signing in. So everyone can search there.

I used to go to the old site to search the IGI and batch numbers, but
now the new site has all those data easily searchable. Also, when you
find an extracted record, you can note the batch number and search that
batch. On the opening search screen is a place  to enter the batch, but
it disappears when you search without it, and the only way I have found
to get it back is to click on the home screen again. So I no longer need
the old screen. This is a recent enhancement, and I like it.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search: Phooey!

[Carl Cox]

 familysearch.org for a while now and never
registered or signed in. What would I get access to by registering that
I don't get by not registering?>>

The site you are looking at is raw data, a place for research. The other
site, new.familysearch.org, has massive linked pedigrees, the result of
millions of names being researched and linked. Much of the research is
excellent, much from personal knowledge of the individuals, and some put
in by inexperienced research or by copying FGS complete with good
research or errors. Try signing in, and decide for yourself if it is
worth while.

Carl





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RE: [LegacyUG] Options>Customise>General>Integrate with Family Search

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<>

The nFS staff are working very hard to make nFS correctible, and have a
place for good sources. For now, when you make a correction for a name,
look at the >Summary tab, click on the >Name field, and select the
correct version there. Your name will appear as the one that made the
change, so that you can be contacted by someone who has a different
opinion, but the correct information will appear on most screens.

I have quite a number of marriages where the surname gets a warning like
your instance, but they really do have the same surname, so care needs
to be taken.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] How can I contact a contributor to LDS database?

[Carl Cox]

<>

If nFS has contact information, it is displayed. When an email address
becomes non-working, it is removed and replaced by the number you see.
Many contributions recorded here were done long before computers, and
the submitters are no longer around.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Carl Cox]

In New England Townships are essentially unincorporated cities, I
believe. In many parts of the country Townships are a 6 mile square
surveyed area. Not all states handle townships the same. You have to do
what works for you in the area you are working.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's

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I use RIN numbers for my WEB program to identify individuals. But when I
abandon a RIN I can reassign it as I will never use it again for that
person. So I tick "Reuse abandoned RINs" to keep my RINs in sequence
with no holes.

Just think about what you are going to be using the numbers for, or what
assignments you may give your Legacy program to use the numbers. The
program does not care, so it is up to you.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another

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<>

I have used Drag and Drop many times. The method does not merge, it just
puts the individual (or connected group of individuals) in the new
database, then it is up to you to merge them. I would be leery of a
program that would presume to take a new input and merge it with one
already there. Often the new individual has different information than
the one already there, meaning that a marriage or some other valid
information is not in both files.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

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<>

Are you in the Family view? I think that options show almost anywhere
you click on that view.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

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<>

Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.

Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

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<>

Have you changed information on the No 2 ancestor since you set up the
bold direct ancestors? I suspect that you may have made some change that
made Legacy wonder. Try to set up the direct line again. I think it will
be bold.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop from one database to another

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<>

As explained earlier, the drag and drop does not merge or link. It adds
to the new database as unlinked individual. If you would drag and drop
his siblings, you could merge them, and Legacy would probably then
notice that the one you dropped needed linking.

It is easy to link. In the new database, click Link to an existing son
(daughter), [in a blank child space] and find the one that goes there. I
usually include more of the family, parents especially, and when I merge
them the children fall into place.

I assume there are notes and events that go along with the imported
individual. If all you are importing is the information on the Add
Individual screen, you can just edit and save the individual in the old
DB, then add in the proper place in the new DB and click the  of
each field to have it copy what was just saved.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Is there a way to turn off the automatic feature?

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When I have a long entry with the last end having more than one
variation, I highlight the differing part at the end with the mouse and
start typing what I want. Autocomplete takes up from there.

If I was a fast typist it would probably be faster to just keep typing,
but the way I do it ensures that my typing is correct.

I can see no down side to autocomplete. If you don't want it, you just
keep typing and ignore auto complete. It does not force any acceptance.
If you like what it presents, you just stop typing and it is done. A
win-win situation as I see it.

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[LegacyUG] Parish register problem

[Carl Cox]

I know this is off topic, but if someone can help it would be greatly
appreciated.
I am looking at a parish register from Westmoreland in the 1780s. I keep
seeing a name with Supp. after it, where the surname should go. Always
the father is there, with any surname, usually not matching the surname
of the child, which would come before the Supp. The mother's name is
always given (in many cases ii does not appear, which is what makes this
term interesting), and no mention or appearance of His Wife or similar
designation. I suspect that the term has something to do with
illegitimate, but then how would they always know the father's name? You
can send me private answers.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

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<>

One neat thing about Legacy and split screen is that you can save the
persons details in one side of the split and then paste any of them to
the other side by left clicking on the name of the field. I don't know
if that will help. When a field is occupied in the 'copy to' screen,
Legacy asks if you want to replace Alice  C. with Alice Chloe (as an
example), so you can compare and remember the change. You do not need to
make any changes in the 'from' screen, just bring it up and save it,
which puts it in the ready memory of Legacy.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

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Ron:
<>

I don't think that applies to Legacy's ability to copy information from
one person to another. In split screen, Legacy remembers the last saved
individual information, and that can be applied to any other individual
in either database. I just tried split screen with the same database in
both, and copied my fathers death information in one view to me in the
other view. My experience has been that there are no restrictions in
using the last saved individual information screen anywhere.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

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<>



We must be talking past each other,  because I often use this method
within a single file and between different files in a split screen. The
only requirement is that you "save" the  individual information as it
currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved information
becomes a template from which you can use any piece of information you
wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy remembers the  last one
saved when it is closed - it very well could. I have 2 files that I
record current happenings in, identically in both, and I call up split
screen, enter the personal information in one database, save it, then go
to the other database and copy each newly entered information by
clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this
method?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

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<>

I was not thinking of 'events', so my comments do not apply.

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries--Repeat button.

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<>

You need your mouse right on the NAME of the field, and left-click
repeats the last entry (blank if it was blank) while right-click shows
the last 10 entries in that field.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking between screens in Family View

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No one has mentioned that clicking in the margin by the children brings
up the highlighted one if they are direct line and have been told to be
highlighted. Thus a single click each generation takes you from your
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RE: [LegacyUG] Short bs long location names

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View (top line)>Master lists > Location.

It sounds like you need to merge duplicate locations. On the bottom you
will find Combine, and when you click on it the command will change to
combine With.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Email problems

[Carl Cox]

Brian wrote:
<>

I am not sure they know any more than we do. My problem probably stemmed
from my ISP starting to filter my LUG EMails, so I got no response when I
tried to subscribe. The LUG program figured something was wrong, so it just
blackballed my address. It took the administrator to get my subscription
correct on both LUG and LFS lists. I doubt the LUG program alerted the
administrator.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Transferring Data Between Computers

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Howland asked about these.

This is from Tim Rosenloff last January:
TC = To-Do Clipboard
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Re: [LegacyUG] Birck wall on tagging

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Jane asked:
<<7. On that screen the individual taggind blank is filled with one of my 
ancestors name.  There is not way on that screen to change it back to me.  >>

The individual on Advanced Tagging is the one that is highlighted when you 
select that option. You change that person by changing the highlight on the 
family screen.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Duplicate Records - Family Members

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<>

The merge process is entirely under your control. You can select a manual merge 
option, and the two you select are presented for merging. You can say "merge" 
or "skip" (not the exact words, but you will know). On each merge the program 
looks around for other possible merges, and presents them. You can end the 
merge at any time you have done enough. If there are identical people to merge 
(including the same notes and events), the program offers to go through the 
remaining merges and do them automatically, and if the information is identical 
with good birth information, it will merge them. I have never had a problem 
with the program doing the merging. But each step is entirely under your 
control, after the automatic merge which you have to initiate.

Use the copies as suggested, and if you go too far, just start over.

Try it, you will like it!

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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter & Evidence Explained

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<>

I understood that when a family moved to a new town, if the elders of the
town thought they might require assistance at some time in the future they
'warned them out' legally, so that if they ever did need assistance the
paperwork was already in place, and the family knew they would get no help
in the new town. But they were not forced to leave as long as they did not
need aid. Is my understanding wrong?

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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I save my legacy file as a GEDCOM

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<<"Saving" and "Exporting" are, in this context, the same thing.  Just follow 
the instructions in the book (or help file) for exporting.>>

In exporting the GEDCOM it has you decide where you want it to be stored on 
your computer. MAKE SURE you know where it is. Then you can do anything you 
wish with the file. It is all too easy to not notice where the default location 
is for the computer.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance

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One of my ancestors was born in Ireland, and married a Canadian girl whose 
origin was unknown at the time. The computer assigned a  and  
place for her, from his information. I have found that whenever I see the <  > 
information, I can also find where it originated. But even though it may be 
completely wrong, it can also be helpful if you recognize that information for 
what it is. A name with no date or place is almost useless until it can be tied 
somewhere.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance

[Carl Cox]

Tom:
< brackets then a machine wont do it!>>

The information within <>brackets has a different meaning for me if I know that 
a computer put them in or if a person put them in. The brackets would have much 
less meaning if both people and computer used the same token.


A person would put 'about', 'estimated', 'calculated', or some other meaningful 
term, and I would think that all available evidence would be taken into account 
by the person. When a computer does it I have a good idea of what value to put 
on the information, much less than how I would value what a person would 
thoughtfully insert.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tool to Uniformly Format Places?

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<>

In addition to importing into a new file, check out the automatic changes the 
program will do on the Location master file.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location Core+ sorting

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<>

I thought that the sort program assumed that the 4th place was the country,
so if there is something else in that place it is still treated like a
country. I put whatever I want in the burial place, as the death place
provides the genealogical information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting Children

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I haven't followed this thread closely, so this might have already been
mentioned, or might not apply. On the family view, right-click on one of the
children, select Children's settings, and then sort. The children without
birth dates sort out first.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting Children

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<>

When a computer sorts by date, it puts the lowest number first, as that is
all it knows how to do. No birth date is zero.

When I have missing birth dates in a family, I use the arrows that allow you
to put them in any order you wish.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering siblings

[Carl Cox]

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I have my computer set for single click to move in the family view. I put a
person in the father/mother position who had no parents nor siblings, then
clicked on one of the parents to move them down. A click on the blank child
position brought up the menu to add a brother or sister, which I did. Then I
can click on the child to bring them up to the father position, and clicking
between the father and mother position rotates between siblings. That works
fine, but no parent is listed, just a blank. The marriage list shows
unknown/unknown, and removing the marriage link gets rid of the unknowns,
but it also unlinks the siblings. You do NOT have to add a marriage to link
siblings, provided you begin with one of the children in the father/mother
position, then move them down by clicking the parent spot. Nothing shown in
the father/mother places, but you can add children who will stay together.

I don't think this is a bug, but the program working as I would like it to.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing charts without showing Living ancestors information

[Carl Cox]

One way would be to export a GEDCOM file, using the Privacy Setting tab to 
exclude those you wished to. Then there would be none in the file that were 
living.

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Re: [LegacyUG] List of tagged individuals

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Name list>Search>Show all tagged>choose the tag

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