Re: [LegacyUG] Print source citations:

[Don Quigley]

If you are asking about the "Source Citation Report," it includes the Source
List Name as "Name" and is sorted alpha-numerically, the same way the Master
Source List is sorted.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of alex aj
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 1:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Print source citations:

 

Does anyone know how to include the "Source List Name" in the source
citation reports?

Also if this is possible can I sort on the"Source List Name"

 

Ciao

 

Alex van Crasbeek

AUCKLAND

NEW ZEALAND

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9

[Don Quigley]

According to my emails to this group, I did – about a year ago.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Hot.Rod.Wife
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:20 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9

 

Did you send in a suggestion? 

 

Sherry

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S



 Original message 
From: Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > 
Date: 2/7/17 10:23 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9 

Thanks, Sherry.  I think you had told me that before.

 

But I have a need to frequently search by File ID while “within” Legacy because 
all my sources and images are connected by the File ID.  Right now, all my 
sources (I’m and extreme splitter, by the way) are named “1234 – Source Name” 
and their associated images are named “1234.jpg”.  I can now find the sources 
easily in the Master Source List because they are sorted numerically.  But I’d 
prefer they were named “Source Name 1”, “Source Name 2”, etc, so that similar 
sources would be grouped together in the Master Source List, such as “1930 US 
Census, IA, Pottawattamie, Council Bluffs”; “1930 US Census, IA, Pottawattamie, 
Neola”; etc.  I’d still have the source-image connection via the FileID.  But 
to quickly fine a specific source in the Master Source List, I’d need to be 
able to search by FileID.

 

I was just hoping that this capability was going to be in V.9.  

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:45 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9

 

You can do that now, in a round-about way.

Go to Reports > Other Reports > File ID and create the File ID for Master 
Sources and/or Source Citations.

That's in order by the File ID so you can easily find the source by the File ID.

Sherry




 

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Will the new version of Legacy have the ability to search Master Sources by 
File ID?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Sherry.  I think you had told me that before.

 

But I have a need to frequently search by File ID while “within” Legacy because 
all my sources and images are connected by the File ID.  Right now, all my 
sources (I’m and extreme splitter, by the way) are named “1234 – Source Name” 
and their associated images are named “1234.jpg”.  I can now find the sources 
easily in the Master Source List because they are sorted numerically.  But I’d 
prefer they were named “Source Name 1”, “Source Name 2”, etc, so that similar 
sources would be grouped together in the Master Source List, such as “1930 US 
Census, IA, Pottawattamie, Council Bluffs”; “1930 US Census, IA, Pottawattamie, 
Neola”; etc.  I’d still have the source-image connection via the FileID.  But 
to quickly fine a specific source in the Master Source List, I’d need to be 
able to search by FileID.

 

I was just hoping that this capability was going to be in V.9.  

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:45 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question re V.9

 

You can do that now, in a round-about way.

Go to Reports > Other Reports > File ID and create the File ID for Master 
Sources and/or Source Citations.

That's in order by the File ID so you can easily find the source by the File ID.

Sherry



 

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Will the new version of Legacy have the ability to search Master Sources by 
File ID?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 


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[LegacyUG] Question re V.9

[Don Quigley]

Will the new version of Legacy have the ability to search Master Sources by
File ID?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Uploading a Gedcom

[Don Quigley]

Its an import setting in TNG – “Import media if present”

 

Don Quigley

945 Halecrest Drive

Escondido, CA 92025

(H) 760-746-5887

(M) 925-367-5609

dwquig...@cox.net

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Uploading a Gedcom

 

Ok Thanks,  Thats exactly what it says in my notes but when I tried the links 
did not travel with the file.

I will try it again,  

Ian

 

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Ian,

 

This is perhaps a better question for the TNG users group mail site, but 
exporting a gedcom to Legacy works best for a TNG upload.  The media links will 
come with the gedcom.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <https://donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

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<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Uploading a Gedcom

 

I am trying to upload a gedcom to a TNG site and seem to be missing something.

Please,  what kind of Gedcom to export, Basic, legacy, or ???.  And,  I am 
supposed to set a flag somewhere to include the photo links, but do not see 
where that was.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Uploading a Gedcom

[Don Quigley]

Ian,

 

This is perhaps a better question for the TNG users group mail site, but 
exporting a gedcom to Legacy works best for a TNG upload.  The media links will 
come with the gedcom.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Uploading a Gedcom

 

I am trying to upload a gedcom to a TNG site and seem to be missing something.

Please,  what kind of Gedcom to export, Basic, legacy, or ???.  And,  I am 
supposed to set a flag somewhere to include the photo links, but do not see 
where that was.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Description Field in Event Notes

[Don Quigley]

??? - The description field for events does export to GEDCOMs, as well as the 
notes field.

 

Don Quigley

945 Halecrest Drive

Escondido, CA 92025

(H) 760-746-5887

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dwquig...@cox.net

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Diane Sye
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:58 AM
To: [LegacyUG] 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Description Field in Event Notes

 

I am in the process of tidying up my data after using Legacy since 2007.  Up 
till now I have filled in the description field in Events as I liked the way it 
printed out, putting the description field next to the place, before the notes, 
making it useful to print out reports for reviewing away from the computer.

I am aware that Geoff Rasmussen does not use the description field as 
apparently, it does not export to GEDCOMs for use in other genealogy software.  
If I swap the information from the description field to the Event notes field, 
can the notes be exported to a GEDCOM for import to other genealogy software?

Also, I note that Geoff leaves a blank first line when entering census details 
in the Event notes so that it has a better appearance in the Chronology view.  
Should I be doing this for all Event notes?

Are there any beta users of Legacy 9 who know if the description field will 
remain in Legacy 9?

I’d be grateful for your opinions before I start my big tidy up.

Diane

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for images

[Don Quigley]

Not sure if this would work for you, but I create a source for each image and 
then attach the image to the source.  All the relevant “documentation” for the 
image is contained in the source fields.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources for images

 

Can someone explain to me why it is that Legacy doesn't have an efficient way 
for adding sources for images.  Recently I compiled a 100+-page paper on my 
paternal line, connected families, and their interactions with Native 
Americans.  I had realized there were a lot and compiled them by doing a search 
in Notes and Events for "Indians."  I was amazed at how much I had -- even more 
than I'd expected.

 

I've sent it to family members and posted it on Wikitree: 

http://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/7/7e/Prickett_family_resources-15.pdf

 

and it has been suggested that I publish it, but I don't know how on earth I'd 
ever be able to retrieve the sources for all the images.

 

Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding "Global" Events

[Don Quigley]

Leon & Brian,

 

I tried your “global” source approach and it did transmit the desired website 
link to my Ancestry pages via a gedcom.  However, as I suspected, it placed the 
information at the bottom of the Sources List on the person page.  While that 
may be the best I can do for now, it still is not ideal, as most of “my people” 
(that I have researched in detail) have several tens or more of sources – 
making scrolling down to see the link time consuming and effectively hiding the 
link.

 

I’ll keep looking !!  Thanks again for your ideas.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <https://donquigley.net/> 

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding "Global" Events

 

Sorry, Don, my instructions are for adding a source to everyone.

 

Chap

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

Sent from my iPad

Leon Chapman

chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com> 

⛳

 


On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Leon Chapman mailto:chap...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Don

Shared events is for a few people like a family in a census record, so that 
will not do what u want to do.

 

Try this. 

1.  Go to Tools, Advanced Tagging,   Use an unused Tag and Tag everyone in your 
database with say Tag 1.

2. Go to Tools, Advanced Sourcing

A. Put a source on the source clipboard (click Sourse Clipboard )

B. Select Tab - Which records to Use - select -> Assign to individuals with Tag 
1

C. Select Tab I - Where to Assign Citations

D. Select check box, Assign citations to individual information

E. Select all fields or a specific data field to assign you source

F. Hit Apply button to assign your clipboard source to all individuals with Tag 
1 to the field you have selected.

 

This seems to be a long process, but it is very easy to do.  I use this 
procedure to assign me as a source to everyone in my database if I am going to 
create a Gedcom to upload or send to someone.

 

Good luck.

 

 

Chap

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

Sent from my iPad

Leon Chapman

chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com> 

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On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

No luck in getting help on the Legacy FB page, so I thought I would try here.

---

 

I'm trying to add a "global" event to everyone in my family tree file so that I 
can tell people looking at my uploaded (cousin bait) tree on Ancestry.com 
<http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FAncestry.com%2F&h=oAQGvHtaZAQEXLrH2LVBBqquwSjauoYWv48XpmR8iPegx5w&enc=AZOVDajP9oQVYnOAjdQFBYTl3GkR-E_6RqTQRZr4qP9ZUI5je1YsSpTVBysbKXMJhmOiHfLZh4l7qr2IcwC_xyyQa31Mvcd2et89GVbe7R0co1S98mWDdq9yjEjX1jJP0RSAMuKs7xPNrgMJvr29rcgdAsXd1ZGW03eSCqvFcRs4pOm-bl212HLXguHHAujbcvo&s=1>
  that they can view all my sources and media at my website. 


I've tried sharing the event with everyone, but can't find a way to "select 
all" from the Name List in lieu of single tagging thousands of people. If 
possible, I'd like to avoid going to Access and somehow adding the events to 
the fdb file directly (i.e, my last resort, if this can't be done in Legacy).  
If I can get the event shared, I can run the Legacy gedcom through my TNG 
website to get the event distributed and create a gedcom for uploading to 
Ancestry.

 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <https://donquigley.net/> 

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding "Global" Events

[Don Quigley]

Thanks for your reply, Brian.

A "global" source won't work for me because it won't be easy to position it
uniformly on the person page in Ancestry.

I'm not trying to suppress sources that are uploaded to Ancestry, in fact I
upload them all.  But they often to not display correctly or fully.  They
also do not include media files that I have attached to them in Legacy (and
at the TNG website).  Same is true for media attached to people & events in
Legacy (& TNG).  That's why I want a visible link to my TNG website, where
all the media and correct sources are viewable.

I note there is a Web Links box on each Ancestry person page, which could
work great (though it shows up at the bottom of all the sources, which can
be a lot of scrolling to get to it when there are many sources for a
person).  But I don't know how to populate the Web Links box on the person
pages of an entire family tree via a gedcom file.

Don Quigley
945 Halecrest Drive
Escondido, CA 92025
(H) 760-746-5887
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-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:01 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding "Global" Events

I do not know a way to add an event to everyone but if you would be
satisfied with a source attached to everyone with your disclaimer then you
can add a source when exporting to the GEDCOM for use by TNG. When exporting
click on the Autosource button to tell legacy to add the source to everyone.
You can then Add the source with the disclaimer you want included.

I have not tried this in tandem with the option not to include sources,
which I presume you are using to suppress your sources. If you think my
suggestion will work for you I suggest you try it on a small file like the
Sample.fdb file that comes with Legacy.

Brian Kelly

On 22-Sep-16 2:58 PM, Don Quigley wrote:
> No luck in getting help on the Legacy FB page, so I thought I would 
> try here.
>
> --
> -
>
>
>
> I'm trying to add a "global" event to everyone in my family tree file 
> so that I can tell people looking at my uploaded (cousin bait) tree on 
> Ancestry.com 
> <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FAncestry.com%2F&h=oAQGvHta
> ZAQEXLrH2LVBBqquwSjauoYWv48XpmR8iPegx5w&enc=AZOVDajP9oQVYnOAjdQFBYTl3G
> kR-E_6RqTQRZr4qP9ZUI5je1YsSpTVBysbKXMJhmOiHfLZh4l7qr2IcwC_xyyQa31Mvcd2
> et89GVbe7R0co1S98mWDdq9yjEjX1jJP0RSAMuKs7xPNrgMJvr29rcgdAsXd1ZGW03eSCq
> vFcRs4pOm-bl212HLXguHHAujbcvo&s=1>
> that they can view all my sources and media at my website.
>
>
> I've tried sharing the event with everyone, but can't find a way to 
> "select all" from the Name List in lieu of single tagging thousands of 
> people. If possible, I'd like to avoid going to Access and somehow 
> adding the events to the fdb file directly (i.e, my last resort, if 
> this can't be done in Legacy).  If I can get the event shared, I can 
> run the Legacy gedcom through my TNG website to get the event 
> distributed and create a gedcom for uploading to Ancestry.
>
>
>
>
>
> Donald Quigley
>
> Escondido, CA
>
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree <https://donquigley.net/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Adding "Global" Events

[Don Quigley]

No luck in getting help on the Legacy FB page, so I thought I would try
here.


---

 

I'm trying to add a "global" event to everyone in my family tree file so
that I can tell people looking at my uploaded (cousin bait) tree on
Ancestry.com
  that they can view all my sources and media at my website. 


I've tried sharing the event with everyone, but can't find a way to "select
all" from the Name List in lieu of single tagging thousands of people. If
possible, I'd like to avoid going to Access and somehow adding the events to
the fdb file directly (i.e, my last resort, if this can't be done in
Legacy).  If I can get the event shared, I can run the Legacy gedcom through
my TNG website to get the event distributed and create a gedcom for
uploading to Ancestry.

 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Mail List vs Facebook User Group

[Don Quigley]

I hope I am typical of most Legacy folks.  I belong to both the FB group and 
this message board.  In my case I do not use 
FB as a social medium, but only as a way to be in relevant groups, like FB and 
TNG, where I can view and participate in discussions of interest.  I will say 
that FB does make it easy to include images – say of a screenshot from Legacy 
in support of a topic.  I have found the Legacy FB group posts to be much more 
of the Q&A variety than “social medium” (which suits my interests just fine).  
The downside (without trying to appear snarky) is that quite a few of the 
posted questions are obviously from “Newbies” and of little interest to me.  
Having said that, we all were “Newbies” once and desirous of all the help we 
could get.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Charlene C
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Mail List vs Facebook User Group

 

 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Chick Lewis mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The disadvantages outweigh the advantages. FB is predominately a social 
network. I and many others prefer not to join FB.  The mail forum is strictly 
info and assistance.  Those of us who do not belong to both are missing many 
good posts.

 

You seem to be of the opinion that if there were only a mailing list the FB 
folks would post here instead. Just as you don't want to use FB, they may not 
want to use a mailing list. I agree that FB isn't ideal for discussions lists. 
On the other hand, I despise forums and wouldn't use one if it were the only 
option.

Charlene

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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Not to quibble, but although the official date is what was supposed to have
been the criteria for enumeration, I have seen too many instances of the
data apparently being taken as of the date of the enumeration.  As I said,
that was incorrect, but I still believe it happened.  That is why I always
record both the official date and the date of the enumeration.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

 

That's exactly why it is important to view the actual census page itself.
Many transcribers make egregious errors, so ancestry.com summaries, for
instance, too often contain errors in names, dates, et alia. The date that
the census taker interviews is not the date either; it is the date in the
box below NAME.

For your example

" 22  Jul 19, 1850  Census-Household Member:1850 US
(Hamilton P. Cole).Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA."

The US Census Form in 1850 used the date of June 1, 1850.
Specifically:

"Name of every Person whose usual place of abode on the first day of June,
1859, was in this family"

So, the US Census information is that he was a household member on June 1st,
1850. If the enumeration date was the 19th, that is not the date the US
Census says he was a household member.


CE

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From: dwquig...@cox.net <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:36:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

Yes, I know.  But you should also be cautious because some (many) records
seem to have been incorrectly filled out as of the date the census was taken
- as in the example I gave below, where the official 1850 census date was
June 1st.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

 

Be aware that the date on which the census taker took the information is not
the date of residence, occupation, or age of persons. The census taker asked
what those were as of the date printed in one of the header boxes of the
census form, which was usually 1 January of the census year.


CE 

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From: wnkwal...@rogers.com <mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com> 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:26:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

If you know enough to manually sort the partial date, but not enough to give
it an exact date, perhaps you could change it to use keywords like 'after'
or 'about'. For example, change '1850' to 'Aft 4 Jul 1850', 'Aft Jul 1850',
or 'Abt Jul 1850'. Then it would sort appropriately.

 

I presume that you don't trust the census date to accurately reflect the
actual date of residence, but you have a guess as to when the residence
truly applies. Otherwise, you would use the exact date for both events, or
not even bother having both events.

 

   Ward

 

From: Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, 18 July, 2016 11:28 PM

To: Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

 

Don,

If you want that ability, you'll need to send in a Suggestion - see the Home
Tab or the Help Ribbon for the links to Request a Feature.

I don't think it's so simple as "use the Sort order of the individual" as
the items may not be sorted in date order at all and that order is not going
to make any sense on the chronology page. You may be wanting the option to
sort a partial date as 31/12/ instead of as 1/1/ ?

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:


Yes, but no luck.

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Donald 
Brown
*Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 1:51 PM
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*Subject :* Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

Have you turned off the option to move or insert events in >options>2.2?

Donald Brown

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

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Quigley
*Sent:* 18 July, 2016 4:40 PM
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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Yes, but no luck.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Donald Brown
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 1:51 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

 

Have you turned off the option to move or insert events in >options>2.2?

 

Donald Brown

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: 18 July, 2016 4:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> 
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

 

Gerald,

 

I understand how Legacy (not the computer, because this is a software issue, 
not a hardware issue) sorts the Chronology View.  However, it apparently does 
not have a code to provide an option to mimic the sort order I prefer in the 
data entry page for an individual.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: gerald [mailto:g...@representative.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:56 AM
To: Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

It does sort properly. But you seem not to understand how computers see things 
-- and it is not the way WE see things.

 

In a list of dates as you have, which do you think comes first: July 4, 1850 or 
1850. Obviously, it sorts by year first, and since 1850 is all alone with 
nothing else attached to it, it is first. Then later, it will look at all the 
additional information. It cannot tell WHEN in 1850 it should go, so it comes 
to the top of the list. When you have a month, that comes next, and later, the 
day itself. So yes, it is all sorted according to the rules of data sorting as 
was established in the very beginning of time. It is only YOU that seems to 
think differently. THAT is where the problem occurs. It is not that you did 
anything wrong, but that you do not think the way the machine "thinks". This 
happens all the time with machine-human interactions.

 

To get around this, my might have to enter dummy dates for those in 1850 
without month and day, just to put them into some sort of order. But then, you 
may mistake this dummy data as being true, and that confuses us all the more! 
So --- Well, I don't know the solution!

  

Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 at 11:31 AM
From: "Don Quigley" mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> >
To: "'Legacy User Group'" mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

No, the program would only have to read the sort order from the data input page.

 

But I guess I will have to yield to the view that the two “pages” are just not 
connected in Legacy.  I can live with that.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of James Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

To sort the way you manually sorted, the program would have to be able to read 
your mind. It cannot do that, it can only read the date. Obviously, it sorts by 
the year (only) first, then sorts by month/day/year as shown in your excerpt.

Jim Smith

On 7/17/2016 11:20, dwquig...@cox.net wrote:

Only because the census took place on a specific date, whereas residences and 
occupations span a longer period of time, so using the year makes more sense to 
me.
 
But we are losing sight of the real reason for my question - If Legacy can let 
you manually sort the event order, why can't that order be reflected in the 
Chronology View?
 
 Chris Hill  wrote: 

Hi

 
Surely, since you know that date of the census then you must also know the date 
for the occupation and residence events. Why do you want to record those 
against the year only?
 
Regards
 
Chris
 
-----Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: 17 July 2016 02:44
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View
 
Cathy,
 
I understand, but there are times when only a year is known for an event and it 
doesn't sort well "chronologically" with other events that year that have a 
more specific date.
 
Consider the following excerpt from a Chronology View from a person who 
happened to show up in two censuses for one year:
 
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850

[LegacyUG] FW: Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Gerald,

 

I understand how Legacy (not the computer, because this is a software issue, 
not a hardware issue) sorts the Chronology View.  However, it apparently does 
not have a code to provide an option to mimic the sort order I prefer in the 
data entry page for an individual.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: gerald [mailto:g...@representative.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:56 AM
To: Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

It does sort properly. But you seem not to understand how computers see things 
-- and it is not the way WE see things.

 

In a list of dates as you have, which do you think comes first: July 4, 1850 or 
1850. Obviously, it sorts by year first, and since 1850 is all alone with 
nothing else attached to it, it is first. Then later, it will look at all the 
additional information. It cannot tell WHEN in 1850 it should go, so it comes 
to the top of the list. When you have a month, that comes next, and later, the 
day itself. So yes, it is all sorted according to the rules of data sorting as 
was established in the very beginning of time. It is only YOU that seems to 
think differently. THAT is where the problem occurs. It is not that you did 
anything wrong, but that you do not think the way the machine "thinks". This 
happens all the time with machine-human interactions.

 

To get around this, my might have to enter dummy dates for those in 1850 
without month and day, just to put them into some sort of order. But then, you 
may mistake this dummy data as being true, and that confuses us all the more! 
So --- Well, I don't know the solution!

  

Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 at 11:31 AM
From: "Don Quigley" mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> >
To: "'Legacy User Group'" mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

No, the program would only have to read the sort order from the data input page.

 

But I guess I will have to yield to the view that the two “pages” are just not 
connected in Legacy.  I can live with that.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of James Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

To sort the way you manually sorted, the program would have to be able to read 
your mind. It cannot do that, it can only read the date. Obviously, it sorts by 
the year (only) first, then sorts by month/day/year as shown in your excerpt.

Jim Smith

On 7/17/2016 11:20, dwquig...@cox.net wrote:

Only because the census took place on a specific date, whereas residences and 
occupations span a longer period of time, so using the year makes more sense to 
me.
 
But we are losing sight of the real reason for my question - If Legacy can let 
you manually sort the event order, why can't that order be reflected in the 
Chronology View?
 
 Chris Hill  wrote: 

Hi

 
Surely, since you know that date of the census then you must also know the date 
for the occupation and residence events. Why do you want to record those 
against the year only?
 
Regards
 
Chris
 
-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: 17 July 2016 02:44
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View
 
Cathy,
 
I understand, but there are times when only a year is known for an event and it 
doesn't sort well "chronologically" with other events that year that have a 
more specific date.
 
Consider the following excerpt from a Chronology View from a person who 
happened to show up in two censuses for one year:
 
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   Jul 4, 1850Marriage:  Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22   Jul 19, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Hamilton P. Cole).  
Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   Aug 30, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Newton Americus 
Morgan).  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
 
These events are manually sorted as follows, which I find more visually 
appealing:
  
22   Jul 4, 1850Marriage:  Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence

Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

No, the program would only have to read the sort order from the data input page.

 

But I guess I will have to yield to the view that the two “pages” are just not 
connected in Legacy.  I can live with that.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of James Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

To sort the way you manually sorted, the program would have to be able to read 
your mind. It cannot do that, it can only read the date. Obviously, it sorts by 
the year (only) first, then sorts by month/day/year as shown in your excerpt.

Jim Smith

On 7/17/2016 11:20, dwquig...@cox.net <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>  wrote:

Only because the census took place on a specific date, whereas residences and 
occupations span a longer period of time, so using the year makes more sense to 
me.
 
But we are losing sight of the real reason for my question - If Legacy can let 
you manually sort the event order, why can't that order be reflected in the 
Chronology View?
 
 Chris Hill  <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> 
 wrote: 

Hi

 
Surely, since you know that date of the census then you must also know the date 
for the occupation and residence events. Why do you want to record those 
against the year only?
 
Regards
 
Chris
 
-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: 17 July 2016 02:44
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View
 
Cathy,
 
I understand, but there are times when only a year is known for an event and it 
doesn't sort well "chronologically" with other events that year that have a 
more specific date.
 
Consider the following excerpt from a Chronology View from a person who 
happened to show up in two censuses for one year:
 
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   Jul 4, 1850Marriage:  Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22   Jul 19, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Hamilton P. Cole).  
Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   Aug 30, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Newton Americus 
Morgan).  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
 
These events are manually sorted as follows, which I find more visually 
appealing:
  
22   Jul 4, 1850Marriage:  Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA
22   Jul 19, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Hamilton P. Cole).  
Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Occupation:farmer.  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   1850Residence-Occupant: (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22   Aug 30, 1850   Census-Household Member:  1850 US (Newton Americus 
Morgan).  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
 
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
 
-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:06 PM
To: Legacy User Group  <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View
 
It's the CHRONOLOGY View. It's whole point is to put things in date order.
A date that is just a year or about  is sorted before 1 Jan .
 
Cathy
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

I understand, but there are times when only a year is known for an event and it 
doesn't sort well "chronologically" with other events that year that have a 
more specific date.

Consider the following excerpt from a Chronology View from a person who 
happened to show up in two censuses for one year:

22  1850Occupation: farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Residence-Occupant:  (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Residence-Occupant:  (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Occupation: farmer.  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  Jul 4, 1850 Marriage:   Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22  Jul 19, 1850Census-Household Member:1850 US (Hamilton P. 
Cole).  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  Aug 30, 1850Census-Household Member:1850 US (Newton 
Americus Morgan).  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  

These events are manually sorted as follows, which I find more visually 
appealing:
  
22  Jul 4, 1850 Marriage:   Hanna Theresa Morgan (1834-1916) in 
Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA. 
22  1850Occupation: farmer.  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Residence-Occupant:  (Hamilton P. Cole).  Columbia, 
Herkimer, New York, USA
22  Jul 19, 1850Census-Household Member:1850 US (Hamilton P. 
Cole).  Columbia, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Occupation: farmer.  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  1850Residence-Occupant:  (Newton Americus Morgan).  Winfield, 
Herkimer, New York, USA.  
22  Aug 30, 1850Census-Household Member:1850 US (Newton 
Americus Morgan).  Winfield, Herkimer, New York, USA.  

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:06 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

It's the CHRONOLOGY View. It's whole point is to put things in date order.
A date that is just a year or about  is sorted before 1 Jan .

Cathy

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> Joyce Herzog <mailto:joyce.her...@gmail.com> Sunday, 17 July 2016 2:47 
> AM I don't know if you are doing anything wrong or not. But Legacy 
> sorts first by date, then by alphabet.
> I use the Census for both Residence Events and Occupation Events. 
> Because they bot have the same date, Legacy puts the Occupation first. 
> I kept trying, but finally gave up. If you happen to find a way to 
> make it do what you say, please let me know.
>
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> Don Quigley <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> Sunday, 17 July 2016 2:29 AM
>
> I believe we have discussed this before, but I’m still having problems 
> with the Chronology View not respecting my manual sort order for 
> events.  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
>
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[Don Quigley]

I believe we have discussed this before, but I'm still having problems with
the Chronology View not respecting my manual sort order for events.  Any
ideas what I am doing wrong?

 

Donald Quigley

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Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

 

That did it!!  I turned off “auto sort edited events” and all my problems went 
away.

 

Thank you so much.

 

Don

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:23 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

Don,

Take control. What's your setting at Options - Customise 2.2

Unless there's a bug you don't have to auto sort edited events.

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:




Cathy,

I agree, I want the events ordered by date, but I want a logical 
sequence to be followed for events/facts with the same date, such as 
just the year.

After some playing around with  Legacy, I now believe it does indeed 
make the Chronology View respect the order setting you have made on 
the Individual’s Information screen.  The problem is that if you edit 
a “common-date” event or fact (but do not change the date), Legacy 
will place it alphabetically within others of the same date in the 
Individual’s Information screen.  If you don’t do a “resort” the 
Chronology View will look “wrong.”  Unfortunately (for me at least), 
remembering to resort is not an easy thing to do.

Ugh.

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 8:07 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

Don,

The whole point of a Chronology Report is to order by date.

Maybe you need an Individual Report instead.

Cathy

Leon Chapman wrote:


I think the chronology report only orders by date of the event

Chap
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Can someone tell me how to get the Chronology View for an
individual
to match the order of the Events/Facts I’ve selected by the Sort
Order arrows on the Individual’s Information edit screen.

Donald Quigley

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Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

 

I agree, I want the events ordered by date, but I want a logical sequence to be 
followed for events/facts with the same date, such as just the year.

 

After some playing around with  Legacy, I now believe it does indeed make the 
Chronology View respect the order setting you have made on the Individual’s 
Information screen.  The problem is that if you edit a “common-date” event or 
fact (but do not change the date), Legacy will place it alphabetically within 
others of the same date in the Individual’s Information screen.  If you don’t 
do a “resort” the Chronology View will look “wrong.”  Unfortunately (for me at 
least), remembering to resort is not an easy thing to do.

 

Ugh.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:07 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology View

 

Don,

The whole point of a Chronology Report is to order by date.

Maybe you need an Individual Report instead.

Cathy

Leon Chapman wrote:




I think the chronology report only orders by date of the event

Chap
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<mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:





Can someone tell me how to get the Chronology View for an individual 
to match the order of the Events/Facts I’ve selected by the Sort 
Order arrows on the Individual’s Information edit screen.

Donald Quigley

 

 

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[LegacyUG] Chronology View

[Don Quigley]

Can someone tell me how to get the Chronology View for an individual to
match the order of the Events/Facts I've selected by the Sort Order arrows
on the Individual's Information edit screen.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events in Legacy

[Don Quigley]

No, the updates change all shared records.  Just try it, you’ll see.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Hogrooter
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Shared events in Legacy

 

If you change or update the original event, are all the shared events changed 
as well?

I hope you don't have to update each one individually.

Thanks for any advice,





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources

[Don Quigley]

An even simpler way, from the Legacy Facebook page:

>>>>>>>>> 

Cathy Martin Naborowski <https://www.facebook.com/cathy.naborowski?fref=ufi>
Here are the instructions - I think they came from Michele Simmons Lewis
<https://www.facebook.com/michele.s.lewis?hc_location=ufi> . To copy a
master source from one file to another.

Tag in first file (make sure it's the only tagged item). Close that file.
Open new file. Go to master source list and import Master Source - tagged
only

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:51 AM
To: 'Earl Bonneau' ; LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources

 

Earl,

 

Wonderful !!  You just saved me so much time to restore some old sources
that had been in my list, but not yet used, that I had mistakenly purged
some time ago.

 

Thank you so much.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

From: Earl Bonneau [mailto:e.bonn...@cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:10 AM
To: dwquig...@cox.net <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources

 

Try making a dummy person, then attach the sources you want copied, then
copy the dummy person to the new file. 

In the help file: Copying Between Family Files, also see autsourcing at the
bottom of the page. 

 

Earl

 

On 6/12/2016 9:25 AM, Don Quigley wrote:

Is there any way to copy specific master sources from one family (fdb) file
to another?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources

[Don Quigley]

Earl,

 

Wonderful !!  You just saved me so much time to restore some old sources
that had been in my list, but not yet used, that I had mistakenly purged
some time ago.

 

Thank you so much.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: Earl Bonneau [mailto:e.bonn...@cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:10 AM
To: dwquig...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Sources

 

Try making a dummy person, then attach the sources you want copied, then
copy the dummy person to the new file. 

In the help file: Copying Between Family Files, also see autsourcing at the
bottom of the page. 

 

Earl

 

On 6/12/2016 9:25 AM, Don Quigley wrote:

Is there any way to copy specific master sources from one family (fdb) file
to another?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 





 

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[LegacyUG] Master Sources

[Don Quigley]

Is there any way to copy specific master sources from one family (fdb) file
to another?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

[Don Quigley]

Pat,

 

Stumps me.  Maybe Brian/Support has some ideas.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:08 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

No, I had the default set to "include" before I entered the text I wanted to 
search for, if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Is it a problem of retroactively changing the default to “include on reports”?  
I don’t think that will change the settings of existing comments.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Hm--odd -- I've got my default set to include comments -- but it doesn't do it 
unless I check it on the Comments tab!  I don't understand the discrepancy!

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

I’ve set my defaults to “include on reports” so I only exclude by exception. 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Don, Good idea.  However it doesn't work unless I check "Include on 
reports" under the Comments tag -- hope I remember to do that!

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Pat,

 

Try creating a Source Citations report (save to pdf), with Comments included.  
Then search the pdf for the text you are interested in.  It will be listed 
under the Source Name.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Brian, the problem is that gives me a list of individuals when all i 
want is the name of the source.  I guess there's no way to get that?

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

Search > Find > Detailed Search Tab
Look for whom: Individual
Where to look: Source-Citation
How to look: your choice, I used contains since that will look anywhere in the 
fields
What to look for: The text you want to find.

The citation search will look in all of the citation fields including text and 
comments.

Brian
Customer Support
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On 31-May-16 7:45 AM, Pat Hickin wrote:

Is there any way to search contents of Comments tab of Source citations?

Pat

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

[Don Quigley]

Is it a problem of retroactively changing the default to “include on reports”?  
I don’t think that will change the settings of existing comments.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Hm--odd -- I've got my default set to include comments -- but it doesn't do it 
unless I check it on the Comments tab!  I don't understand the discrepancy!

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

I’ve set my defaults to “include on reports” so I only exclude by exception. 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Don, Good idea.  However it doesn't work unless I check "Include on 
reports" under the Comments tag -- hope I remember to do that!

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Pat,

 

Try creating a Source Citations report (save to pdf), with Comments included.  
Then search the pdf for the text you are interested in.  It will be listed 
under the Source Name.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Brian, the problem is that gives me a list of individuals when all i 
want is the name of the source.  I guess there's no way to get that?

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

Search > Find > Detailed Search Tab
Look for whom: Individual
Where to look: Source-Citation
How to look: your choice, I used contains since that will look anywhere in the 
fields
What to look for: The text you want to find.

The citation search will look in all of the citation fields including text and 
comments.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



On 31-May-16 7:45 AM, Pat Hickin wrote:

Is there any way to search contents of Comments tab of Source citations?

Pat

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

[Don Quigley]

I’ve set my defaults to “include on reports” so I only exclude by exception. 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Don, Good idea.  However it doesn't work unless I check "Include on 
reports" under the Comments tag -- hope I remember to do that!

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Pat,

 

Try creating a Source Citations report (save to pdf), with Comments included.  
Then search the pdf for the text you are interested in.  It will be listed 
under the Source Name.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Brian, the problem is that gives me a list of individuals when all i 
want is the name of the source.  I guess there's no way to get that?

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

Search > Find > Detailed Search Tab
Look for whom: Individual
Where to look: Source-Citation
How to look: your choice, I used contains since that will look anywhere in the 
fields
What to look for: The text you want to find.

The citation search will look in all of the citation fields including text and 
comments.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
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On 31-May-16 7:45 AM, Pat Hickin wrote:

Is there any way to search contents of Comments tab of Source citations?

Pat



 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

[Don Quigley]

Pat,

 

Try creating a Source Citations report (save to pdf), with Comments included.  
Then search the pdf for the text you are interested in.  It will be listed 
under the Source Name.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching sources

 

Thanks, Brian, the problem is that gives me a list of individuals when all i 
want is the name of the source.  I guess there's no way to get that?

 

Pat

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

Search > Find > Detailed Search Tab
Look for whom: Individual
Where to look: Source-Citation
How to look: your choice, I used contains since that will look anywhere in the 
fields
What to look for: The text you want to find.

The citation search will look in all of the citation fields including text and 
comments.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Pat




 

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Re: [LegacyUG] 1885 Iowa State Census

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Brian.  For some reason I had the OCD for the 1885 Iowa Census as
Jun 1.  Fortunately, there are only 10 master sources for this census in my
database, so I can manually change them without too much effort - ie, the
Search & Replace bug for master sources won't be an issue for me ;) .

 

Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

dwquig...@cox.net

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:52 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1885 Iowa State Census

 

OK, answering my own post (I'm used to talking to myself.)

 

I found the answer and the 1885 Iowa State Census had an effective date of
January 1st. Which means that most enumerations done that year were indeed 4
or 5 months late.

 

I found this by looking at images of the enumerations as found on Family
Search but scrolled to the very first image of that particular area or
township. Generally there are 2 or 3 pages of text which define the rules
the enumerators were to follow and there buried in the text was the
instruction to write in names of persons "whose home on the first day of
January, 1885."

 

Realizing that many enumerators never followed the rules exactly, this four
or five month offset from the actual data collection changes many births,
deaths, marriages, and ages. Just proves that census records aren't all that
reliable.

 

 

Brian.still in CA

 

 

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Subject: [LegacyUG] 1885 Iowa State Census

 

I have some events in my family file that reference the 1885 Iowa State
Census but I'm trying to determine the official effective date of this
particular census. Was it January 1st, April 1st, or June 1st? 

 

I've gone through so many different web sites in order to make a
determination yet strangely this bit of info is missing about the 1885
census. I did manage to view a copy of the official final report (not the
enumeration sheets) which mentioned the effective date was January 1st and
they hope the legislature would change it to June 1st to coincide with the
US Census. However, when I view any of the actual enumeration sheets, they
are dated in April or May. Was the 1885 Iowa State Census started 4 months
late? I found one web site which stated the effective date was June 1st but
I can't see how that can be true if the enumerations were done 2 months
earlier.

 

Anyone feel like enlightening me?

 

 

Brian in CA

The water rates have been raised so now the drought is over

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Show List Button

[Don Quigley]

Cathy & Pat,

 

As Brian/Support said below, there is still a bug in Legacy that causes your 
problem.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:08 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show List Button

 

Cathy,

 

I always  use the name list and select the names I want.  As I said it shows 
they were added.  It's only when I appreciated from the sources list that some 
may be missing.

 

Pat

 

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Cathy Pinner mailto:c...@westnet.com.au> > wrote:

Pat,

Did you use the Name list to find the people you shared with?
I suspect you just added their names.
You have to use the Name list to have the event show on their list.

Cathy



Pat Hickin wrote:




I have just modified an event for Husband and "shared" it with two 
other people (wife and daughter), but when I go to View > Master List 
> Sources > specific source > Show List, the wife does not show.

When I go back to Husband, click on the event, and on Share, both the 
wife and daughter are listed.

This is not the first time I've had this problem.  Can it be corrected??

Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Blanket spell/info change

[Don Quigley]

Try Search & Replace : Citation-Details

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

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To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Cc: E. J. Childress 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Blanket spell/info change

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages without
conversion to attachments should use a different email address for their
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Re: [LegacyUG] Show List Button

[Don Quigley]

I thought this problem had been fixed in a previous update of Legacy.  But the 
first shared event I checked today showed one source properly connected to all 
shared individuals, but not a second source that had been added some time after 
the shared event was created.

 

Seems as if a bug still remains to be quashed.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Show List Button

 

I have just modified an event for Husband and "shared" it with two other people 
(wife and daughter), but when I go to View > Master List > Sources > specific 
source > Show List, the wife does not show.

 

When I go back to Husband, click on the event, and on Share, both the wife and 
daughter are listed.  

 

This is not the first time I've had this problem.  Can it be corrected??

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry Merge

[Don Quigley]

Walt,

 

I pretty much do it the same way as you, although I upload a gedcom from Legacy 
to Ancestry (and MyHeritaeg) about every few weeks because the new data help 
with searches in the online databases.  I’m not sure why I don’t also upload a 
gedcom to Family
Search, but I do search their databases.

 

I have found Ancestry to be a tremendous research tool and I use it every day.  
But the ease of adding data to a tree within Ancestry actually (I believe) 
leads to many errors in Family Trees that get repeated over and over again from 
one tree to another.  I download data and images from Ancestry for review and, 
if acceptable, enter into my tree in Legacy.  My “for presentation and sharing” 
family tree info is uploaded every few weeks to my TNG website.

 

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Walter V. Munza
Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 4:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry Merge

 

I was in the same boat... I finely resign to the fast that the only way around 
this was to delete the Ancestry tree, then upload a new tree from Legacy. With 
over 17,000 in my Legacy data base, all my work is done in Legacy. Then upload, 
via a Gedcom, once a year to Ancestry with a new tree. I don't think Ancestry 
has the capability to make a revision or addition by doing a Gedcom.

​ Let me know if there is a way of doing this.​

 

Walt Munza
Duluth, GA

 

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:17 AM, William Boswell mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

When I work with my tree on Ancestry, whatever additions or changes I make to 
it I also make in Legacy.  It’s double the work, but merges are a headache in 
any program because there’s always the possibility of duplicates.  Cleaning up 
a merged file is more work than it’s worth.  I’ve done it before and it isn’t 
worth it.  I ended up scrapping it and going back to a recent backup.

 

Make sure you make a backup before you do it because you might be better off 
not adding the new information from Ancestry unless you keep a record of 
additions and changes like I do.  This way I know what new information I 
obtained and added into Legacy using Ancestry.  It’s also handy for doing 
additional research later.  I put the information into Notepad and include the 
sources.  Because each file is by date, I also use that as my access date in 
Legacy.  Most everything is just copied and pasted from Ancestry with some 
cleanup to get rid of extra spaces.

 

This probably won’t help you now, but an idea for the future.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Ginger
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:31 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com  
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ancestry Merge

 

Hi,

 

I've been working quite a bit in Ancestry and wanted to merge the information 
I've added and corrected into my Legacy file.  I made a copy of my family file 
in case something went haywire and then I downloaded a GedCom file from Legacy.

 

I assumed (ugh) that it would merge the duplicates automatically as I'd gone 
through them before and just add the new information or have conflicts with the 
corrected information only, however, it is starting over with 2,500 ish 
conflicts.

 

Is there any easier way to do this besides manually plucking the information 
from Ancestry and entering it in by hand?

 

Thanks.

Ginger


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[LegacyUG] Last Modified Dates for Sources

[Don Quigley]

Can Legacy produce gedcoms that include a CHAN date for source records, like
it does for persons and families?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Date calculator?

[Don Quigley]

On an edit screen in v.8, it’s the calendar icon.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of C. DeLay
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:26 PM
To: Legacy Users Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date calculator?

 

I swear that I've used a date calculator within Legacy to convert a date from 
an age (like died aged 2 years 10 months and two days) to then calculate a 
birthday date but I can't find it now. Can someone direct me to where it is 
please?

I am using 7.5 but do have the basic version of 8 installed. 

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

Martha,

 

All I can say is that I looked at the static-page (htm/html) approach of Legacy 
and the table-based approach of TNG and decided to go with TNG over a year ago. 
The many examples of good-looking websites were the clincher for me - 
http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/usersites.php

 

I have been very happy with my decision, particularly with the ability to 
customize my site by adding mods freely available from other users and by 
writing a few myself - 
http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Mods_for_TNG_v11

 

Shared events were a problem until now, previously requiring 1.5 hrs of 
preprocessing the Legacy-export GED file in Excel to distribute the shared 
events before uploading to my TNG site.

 

My costs have been $45 for the initial TNG purchase and recent upgrade; $100/yr 
for the website hosting provider (Simply Hosting, LLC); and $10/yr for my 
domain name.

 

FYI – I agree web work is a lot of fun & addictive – and it does keep my “grey 
cells” active.  Working in Legacy, researching my family and sourcing my 
findings does that too!!

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Martha Graham
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 11:23 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events

 

Good Morning,

I am interested in the comment on using TNG as a vehicle for putting a Legacy 8 
generated report online.

Legacy offers the option to create htm or html files from our data.

 

So, why pay 35.00 TNG for the process?

Web work is fun, addicting and keeps the 'little grey cells' active.

 

Hosting can be on any number of free sites.

 

Martha

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/recentchanges.php

 

It’s #32 in the list (for me it would have been #1 !!)

 

Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

dwquig...@cox.net

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Wheeler
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events

 

Don, could you please point me to where TNG says anything about this in v. 11?  
I must have missed it.  Thanks!

Gene
==



 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Good news for Legacy users who put their family files on the web via TNG.  The 
new version (11) includes shared events, with roles and individual notes.  Now 
if only Ancestry would do the same!

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 


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[LegacyUG] Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

Good news for Legacy users who put their family files on the web via TNG.
The new version (11) includes shared events, with roles and individual
notes.  Now if only Ancestry would do the same!

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

[Don Quigley]

Sorry – should have “WIKI’d” this first.  The tear off was used to assign 
African-
Americans to segregated units in the Army.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Quigley
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:10 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

 

This issue made me look closely at a WWI Draft card for a relative…and I saw 
something that I’ve never noticed before.  In the lower left corner, at a 
45-degree angle were the words: “If person is of African descent, tear off this 
corner.”

 

I hate to venture a guess as to what that was used for.

 

Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

dwquig...@cox.net <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:19 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

 

I'm not sure myself, but I have noticed that many people with different names 
will have the exact same number so it could be a lot or image number to locate 
what box the originals were kept in.  I know some city archives will list a box 
number for certain documents so it is easier to find them.  I originally 
thought it might have something to do with the category a potential draftee 
might be placed in whether they were suitable for service or not.

 

I've seen a lot of these too, but I don't include them when transcribing 
because it doesn't say what that number refers to.  I only use the information 
on the front of the card and some of the information on the back.  Ancestry 
rarely includes the reverse side which requires using the arrows to move ahead 
to the next image.  I'm more interested in the registration date and personal 
attributes on the reverse side since I include the images anyway.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Walter V. Munza
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:47 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

 

Can any one tell me what the stamped numbers represent on the back of WW I 
draft cards. They are usually found at the top of the Registrar's Report. An 
example is "A-21-1-5" and does this number need to be a part of the source?



Best Regards,

 

Walt Munza
Duluth, GA

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Re: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

[Don Quigley]

This issue made me look closely at a WWI Draft card for a relative…and I saw 
something that I’ve never noticed before.  In the lower left corner, at a 
45-degree angle were the words: “If person is of African descent, tear off this 
corner.”

 

I hate to venture a guess as to what that was used for.

 

Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

dwquig...@cox.net

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:19 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

 

I'm not sure myself, but I have noticed that many people with different names 
will have the exact same number so it could be a lot or image number to locate 
what box the originals were kept in.  I know some city archives will list a box 
number for certain documents so it is easier to find them.  I originally 
thought it might have something to do with the category a potential draftee 
might be placed in whether they were suitable for service or not.

 

I've seen a lot of these too, but I don't include them when transcribing 
because it doesn't say what that number refers to.  I only use the information 
on the front of the card and some of the information on the back.  Ancestry 
rarely includes the reverse side which requires using the arrows to move ahead 
to the next image.  I'm more interested in the registration date and personal 
attributes on the reverse side since I include the images anyway.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Walter V. Munza
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:47 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: [LegacyUG] WW I Draft Cards

 

Can any one tell me what the stamped numbers represent on the back of WW I 
draft cards. They are usually found at the top of the Registrar's Report. An 
example is "A-21-1-5" and does this number need to be a part of the source?



Best Regards,

 

Walt Munza
Duluth, GA

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[LegacyUG] Search & Replace Bug for Master Sources

[Don Quigley]

FYI - I just sent this message to Legacy support staff:

 

Regarding Issue #3107, it appears that no changes in any field (not just the
Master Source List Name) are made by Search & Replace for SourceWriter
sources.  You probably are already aware of this.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy_Specs_6c_05-22-2006.docx

[Don Quigley]

Sherry,

 

That’s too bad, Sherry.

 

I believe that if the database structure were made more available, it would 
encourage the more technically oriented Legacy users to write utilities that 
access the “fdb” file directly to create reports and make table edits that 
cannot now be done inside Legacy.  If distributed freely amongst Legacy users, 
the value of the better utilities would be recognized and likely incorporated 
into future revisions and updates to the Legacy software.

 

Just my two cents :)

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:02 AM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy_Specs_6c_05-22-2006.docx

 

Donald,

Those are not made available to general users.






Sincerely, 
Sherry 
Technical Support 
Legacy Family Tree 

 

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> > wrote:

Brian/Michelle,

 

Is there an update to these specs for the Legacy database?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search error

[Don Quigley]

Same problem for me.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Young
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:35 PM
To: Legacy Support ; Legacy User Group

Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Search error

This just started tonight.  When attempting to connect top FamilySearch.org
from within Legacy I get the following messages:
Legacy Family Search
Error connecting to FamilySearch servers. Please verify your user account
name and password.
If the problem persists, please check your Internet connection or the
FamilySearch.org website might be Unavailable.

When you click OK you get:

Legacy FamilySearch
Access violation at address 00634714 in module 'LegacyFS.exe'.
Write of address 0240.

Clicking OK results in the message;

Initializing

You have to close the Family Search window and return to Legacy.

I have run check/repair twice with no change.


I am able to log in from outside Legacy with no problem.
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Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

Thanks for your reply, but I still think the bug is a significant one that
should be fixed as soon as possible.

The bug affects Search & Replace changes to both newly-created Master
Sources and those created from an existing Master Source.

MS Access can be used to make the changes properly, but you have to do it in
both the "SrcName" and "Contents" fields in Table "tblSR" of the fdb
database.  It appears the S&R changes made directly in the Legacy program
now only modify the "SrcName" field, as shown below in excepts from Table
"tblSR" after making changes to two sources in Legacy with S&R:

>From "SrcName":
4001 -  Created as New Source - rev. in S&R
4000 -  Created from Existing Source - rev. in S&R

>From "Contents":
[Master Source List Name]|4001 - Created as New Source|[Title]|US City...
[Master Source List Name]|4000 - Created from Existing Source|[Title]|US
City...

The bug fix appears to simply have Legacy also modify the "Contents" field
for the S&R changes.  FYI, this only applies to sources created by
SourceWriter and not Basis Style sources, which do not have any entries in
the "Contents" field.

Hope this helps your programmers

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:42 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

Don,

We never know when a bug will be fixed.
This bug really only affects you when you create a new Master Source from an
existing Master Source.

I know as I have it in my Master Source list.

When the bug is fixed, you can probably do another Search and Replace to fix
them?

The alternative is to do it in MS Access.
I won't tell you how and where as if you can't find it for yourself, you
shouldn't be doing it.

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Any idea when the next revision to Legacy comes out&  hopefully will fix
this bug?  I'd like to do a lot of S&R to clean up and "standardize" my
Source List Names, but can't do so until the bug is fixed.
>
> Donald Quigley
> Escondido, CA
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:34 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name
>
> The problem report for this has been submitted. You are right, it only
applies to SourceWriter style sources.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 11/02/2016 17:10, Brian/Support wrote:
>> This appears to be a bug. You are correct the change seems to take 
>> place in the Master Source List but when edited the old name still shows.
>>
>> Our bug reporting system is down right now but I have flagged this 
>> message and I will submit a report when the system comes back up.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> On 11/02/2016 16:37, Don Quigley wrote:
>>> Has anyone else had the problem of getting Source List Names changed 
>>> by Search&  Replace?
>>>
>>> After a change in S&R, the source name appears as having been 
>>> changed in the Master Source List, but when the Edit box is opened, 
>>> the old name is still there.  If I then hit save instead of cancel, 
>>> it goes back to the old name in the Master Source List.
>>>
>>> Very frustrating when I have changes to be made to 4000 source names!
>>>
>>> Donald Quigley
>>> Escondido, CA
>>> Quigley Doyle Family Tree<http://www.donquigley.net/>
>>


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[LegacyUG] Legacy_Specs_6c_05-22-2006.docx

[Don Quigley]

Brian/Michelle,

 

Is there an update to these specs for the Legacy database?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Brian,

Any idea when the next revision to Legacy comes out & hopefully will fix this 
bug?  I'd like to do a lot of S&R to clean up and "standardize" my Source List 
Names, but can't do so until the bug is fixed.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:34 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

The problem report for this has been submitted. You are right, it only applies 
to SourceWriter style sources.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 11/02/2016 17:10, Brian/Support wrote:
> This appears to be a bug. You are correct the change seems to take 
> place in the Master Source List but when edited the old name still shows.
>
> Our bug reporting system is down right now but I have flagged this 
> message and I will submit a report when the system comes back up.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> On 11/02/2016 16:37, Don Quigley wrote:
>> Has anyone else had the problem of getting Source List Names changed 
>> by Search & Replace?
>>
>> After a change in S&R, the source name appears as having been changed 
>> in the Master Source List, but when the Edit box is opened, the old 
>> name is still there.  If I then hit save instead of cancel, it goes 
>> back to the old name in the Master Source List.
>>
>> Very frustrating when I have changes to be made to 4000 source names!
>>
>> Donald Quigley
>> Escondido, CA
>> Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Marie,

 

Can you give us more details of your sourcing approach?  It sounds like you are 
a splitter – one document = one source.  Is that correct?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:09 AM
To: c...@westnet.com.au; j...@suplick.name; legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

 

 

Having started using Legacy lng before they had a source maker, I created 
my own templates. All the sources are entered under the name of the person. If 
I'm using, say the 1860 census as a source, I just pull up the template for the 
organization that digitized it for online retrieval, add my specifics, and save 
it as a new source.

 

 Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
__
CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of 
Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after periodic 
competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & 
Trademark Office.
 

 

In a message dated 2/25/2016 6:57:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
c...@westnet.com.au <mailto:c...@westnet.com.au>  writes:

Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type. 

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG really 
force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be attaching the 
image to the event rather than the source.

No problem finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are involved 
so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. However, it's 
usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked out another bit 
of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do that.

Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
using the source.

Cathy

Jean Suplick wrote:




As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
t ype, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net%20%0b%3cmailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
<mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?

__ __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
for editing or citation selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.

__ __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__ __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source

[Don Quigley]

Janet,

 

What if the Source Detail changes are similar for a group of people, say an
entire family on one census record?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jane Linkswiler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source

 

If you want to edit or add to the Master Source just go to the list and find
the correct Source. If you want to correct a Detail (details being
personal), find your person on the name list, click on his Sources icon,
hilight the Source and go directly to Detail.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

 

A lot of TNG users do attach their media to the events.  But I prefer to attach 
the media to the source because the source can be used for multiple “data 
items” – ie, a census typically has names, relationships, occupations, birth 
date & place, residence, etc.   I want to be able to jump directly to the 
source & media from any of the “data items.”  I do attach photograph to 
photograph events, in addition to the sources for the photos.

 

But – as we all have learned – whatever works best for each of us is the way we 
choose to go.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:41 PM
To: j...@suplick.name; Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type. 

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG really 
force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be attaching the 
image to the event rather than the source.

No problem finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are involved 
so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. However, it's 
usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked out another bit 
of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do that.

Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
using the source.

Cathy

Jean Suplick wrote:




As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
t ype, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net%20%0b%3cmailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
<mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?

__ __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
for editing or citation selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.

__ __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__ __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Arnold,

 

With your system, how do you then quickly find a specific Source Detail for
editing, attaching a revised/new media file, etc.?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Arnold Sprague
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:51 AM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

Don,
I am an unimaginative LUMPER. Here are some samples:

Book: Bio. - Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge - American Patron of Music
Book: Misc. - Notable American Women - The Modern Period
Cemetery: MN, Ramsey, St. Paul, Resurrection Cemetery
Census/U.S. Federal: 1910
Informant: Milstead, Claudia
Newspaper / U.S. / IL: Chicago Daily Tribune
Place / U.S.A. / MA: Billerica, Vital Records of, to the Year 1850
Surname / Phelps: Phelps Family of Amer & Eng Ancestors

Thus all books, cemeteries, places, surnames, and on, appear
grouped. Lets me do the "quickly find" thing you mention below..
  Arnold Sprague



At 11:32 AM 2/24/2016, you wrote:



Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_NextPart_000_004F_01D16EEE.99273390"
Content-Language: en-us

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
for editing or selecting for a citation?
 
I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID - ex. "2423 -
1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA - Three Scott Families" - which
is also part of the attached media name - ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I'm a
splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a list of
all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks "helter-skelter."  When
sorted by the text after the File ID, the source names are better organized
and visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data entry.  But
then it seems much harder to find particular sources for editing or citation
selection.
 
I've suggested to the Legacy folks that a "search by File ID" ability would
be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that happens I'm
looking for ideas from other users.
 
One caveat - I can't use source details for "primary" source information and
attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won't "see" media attached
to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
Text/Comments.
 
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

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[LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
for editing or selecting for a citation?

 

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID - ex. "2423 -
1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA - Three Scott Families" - which
is also part of the attached media name - ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I'm a
splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a list of
all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks "helter-skelter."  When
sorted by the text after the File ID, the source names are better organized
and visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data entry.  But
then it seems much harder to find particular sources for editing or citation
selection.

 

I've suggested to the Legacy folks that a "search by File ID" ability would
be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that happens I'm
looking for ideas from other users.

 

One caveat - I can't use source details for "primary" source information and
attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won't "see" media attached
to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
Text/Comments.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Cathy.  That would work OK, but I’ll have to keep a pdf “open” for 
quick access and it would have to be updated frequently to be reasonably 
current.  My suggestion would be to add a “Find by File ID” search box to the 
Master Source List.



…  and while your programmers are at it, why not make the “Find” (by Source 
List Title) box have more flexible search criteria (with wild cards?), so that 
you don’t have to remember the exact spelling of the beginning of a title for 
the first of its “class” to be found.



Life for me was simple when all my sources were “prefixed” with the File ID 
(ie., 2500 – 1900 US Census…) and all my media files had the same File ID in 
their filename (ie., 2500_IMG.jpg).  But I am trying to do away with the Source 
Name prefix so that source lists sort alphabetically by “real” source name, not 
File ID.  I suspect that will help a lot is visualizing sources of a common 
nature (ie.. all 1900 censuses will be grouped together in lists).  But it will 
be harder to find sources when I want to make changes to the media gallery for 
a source.



Thanks again for your ideas.



Don







Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>





From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID



Don,

I think the only way is to do a File ID Report and find your ID in that. You 
can restrict the report to Master Sources. (Reports - Other Reports - File ID)

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:




Does anyone know how to search for a Master Source by its File ID ?

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Does anyone know how to search for a Master Source by its File ID ?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Howard - ... and the FileID !

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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

Amen!  And while the programmers are fixing things it would be nice if they 
would fix the scrapbook feature so that it would list document files (for 
example pdf files) just the same way it lists video and sound files.  All that 
is needed is to use the same logic for the entry in tblBR when PicName = If.jpg 
(a document file) as is used when PicName = Is.jpg (a sound file) or when 
PicName = Iv.jpg (a video file).  That should take only one additional "Else 
IF" statement.
Howard Cady


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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:27 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Brian/Support
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

Brian,

I only did the table edit in Access on a backup of the fdb file as an 
experiment to try to find the source of the problem.

However, Millenia's constant lack of support for their user's use of Access or 
other similar tools to accomplish things that Legacy cannot currently do is (in 
my opinion) very, very shortsighted.  It makes us wait for the next 
slow-developing upgrade that may or may not fix our particular problems with 
the software.  But worse, it stifles the creativity of Legacy users to find 
ways to improve the functionality of the program or to tailor it to their 
specific needs and preferences.

As an example, the Ltools program that is now free on the Internet, has a very 
useful to table viewer which I, and I suspect many others, have used to easily 
and effectively search for missing or mistyped data or inconsistencinies in how 
we enter our data. As issues are found, they can be fixed directly in Legacy - 
often by using it's powerful search & replace tool  - when it is working :)

Sorry for the rant. Just trying to help make the great program,  that Legacy 
is, even better.

Cheers,

Don



 Brian/Support  wrote:
> Modifying internal tables in Legacy is not recommended and you do so
> at your own risk. I will not comment on your message other than to say
> I hope you made a backup because if you made your file unusable by any
> edits you are on your own.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
>
> On 11/02/2016 18:46, Don Quigley wrote:
> > Brian,
> >
> > I found this suspicious text in the Contents column of tblSR in the
> > fdb database.  The highlighted text(0033B - ]should not be there asI
> > hadediteditout bySearch & Replace in Legacy.
> >
> > [Master Source List Name]|0033B -1830 US Census, Hector, NY - Isaac
> > Quigley Family|[Jurisdiction State]|New York|[Jurisdiction
> > County]|Thompkins|[Census ID]|1830 U.S. census|[Publisher
> > City]|Washington, D.C.|[Publisher]|National Archives and Records
> > Administration|[Publish Date]|n.d.|[Series]|M19
> >
> >
> > Editing out the text in the tblSR table and then againin S&R finally
> > made the change permanent - whatever that means !
> >
> > Donald Quigley
> >
> > Escondido, CA
> >
> > Quigley Doyle Family Tree
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Quigley [mailto:dwquig...@cox.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > It seems to only be a problem for SourceWriter sources.
> >
> > Donald Quigley
> >
> > Escondido, CA
> >
> > Quigley Doyle Family Tree
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:11 PM
> >
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> >
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name
> >
> > This appears to be a bug. You are correct the change seems to take
> > place in the Master Source List but when edited the old name still shows.
> >
> > Our bug reporting system is down right now but I have flagged this
> > message and I will submit a report when the system comes back up.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Customer Support
> >
> > Millennia Corporation
> >
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> >
> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
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> > On 11/02/2016 16

RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Brian,

I found this suspicious text in the Contents column of tblSR in the fdb 
database.  The highlighted text (0033B - ] should not be there as I had edited 
it out by Search & Replace in Legacy.

[Master Source List Name]|0033B - 1830 US Census, Hector, NY - Isaac Quigley 
Family|[Jurisdiction State]|New York|[Jurisdiction County]|Thompkins|[Census 
ID]|1830 U.S. census|[Publisher City]|Washington, D.C.|[Publisher]|National 
Archives and Records Administration|[Publish Date]|n.d.|[Series]|M19

Editing out the text in the tblSR table and then again in S&R finally made the 
change permanent - whatever that means !


Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree



-Original Message-
From: Don Quigley [mailto:dwquig...@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

Brian,

It seems to only be a problem for SourceWriter sources.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:11 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

This appears to be a bug. You are correct the change seems to take place in the 
Master Source List but when edited the old name still shows.

Our bug reporting system is down right now but I have flagged this message and 
I will submit a report when the system comes back up.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 11/02/2016 16:37, Don Quigley wrote:
> Has anyone else had the problem of getting Source List Names changed
> by Search & Replace?
>
> After a change in S&R, the source name appears as having been changed
> in the Master Source List, but when the Edit box is opened, the old
> name is still there.  If I then hit save instead of cancel, it goes
> back to the old name in the Master Source List.
>
> Very frustrating when I have changes to be made to 4000 source names!
>
> Donald Quigley
> Escondido, CA
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>




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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Brian,

It seems to only be a problem for SourceWriter sources.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
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-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:11 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

This appears to be a bug. You are correct the change seems to take place in the 
Master Source List but when edited the old name still shows.

Our bug reporting system is down right now but I have flagged this message and 
I will submit a report when the system comes back up.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 11/02/2016 16:37, Don Quigley wrote:
> Has anyone else had the problem of getting Source List Names changed
> by Search & Replace?
>
> After a change in S&R, the source name appears as having been changed
> in the Master Source List, but when the Edit box is opened, the old
> name is still there.  If I then hit save instead of cancel, it goes
> back to the old name in the Master Source List.
>
> Very frustrating when I have changes to be made to 4000 source names!
>
> Donald Quigley
> Escondido, CA
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>




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[LegacyUG] Changing Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Has anyone else had the problem of getting Source List Names changed by
Search & Replace?



After a change in S&R, the source name appears as having been changed in the
Master Source List, but when the Edit box is opened, the old name is still
there.  If I then hit save instead of cancel, it goes back to the old name
in the Master Source List.



Very frustrating when I have changes to be made to 4000 source names!



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

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RE: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy

[Don Quigley]

Colin,



I import all data and media links from a Legacy Gedcom, although TNG can also 
be used to create/edit records.  Two issues I've had with the imports, which I 
do about every two weeks:



*Media dates do not show automatically in TNG because Legacy uses a 
custom Gedcom tag “_DATE”.  I preprocess the Legacy Gedcom in Excel to get the 
date added to the Description field, which TNG shows as a Note.  I believe 
other TNG users put the date directly into the Description field in Legacy to 
get TNG to recognize it straight away.

*TNG does not currently support shared events, and again I have to 
preprocess the Legacy Gedcom to get the shared events distributed to all 
individuals in TNG.  Other TNG users have not used shared events in Legacy to 
avoid this problem.  But, the good news is that the upcoming revision to TNG (a 
month or so away) is supposed to include shared events for the first time.  I 
hope it is compatible with Legacy; should be because Darrin Lythgoes, the owner 
of TNG, has solicited input from Legacy users in writing the revision.



FYI – I am very happy with the choice I made a year ago to combine Legacy and 
TNG as my means of managing and presenting my family tree.





Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>





-Original Message-
From: Colin McCullough [mailto:co...@lugtons.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy



Hi Don

Had a look at TNG from your link.

I too am interested in what TNG might and could do for my set up.

Does the info of legacy get via ged com process to integrate with TNG or is it 
built from scratch?

Considering at this stage Just following the post Colin McCullough







-Original Message-----

From: Don Quigley [ <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> mailto:dwquig...@cox.net]

Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 8:38 a.m.

To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com> legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy



Thanks for your reply, Brian.  I suspected about as much as you've stated.



TNG (The Next Generation of Generation of Sitebuilding,  
<http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/> http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/ ) is what I 
use to as a website to display my family tree that I manage in Legacy.  I guess 
you could call it "open source" in that the PHP scripts can be modified - and 
often with quite useful improvements.  The better "mods" seem to eventually 
become part of TNG upgrades.



What I was looking for with Legacy was "utility" mods that could do things that 
are not currently built into Legacy - such as reports tailored to user needs, 
and simple Excel/Access editing or searching of Legacy databases.  I know you 
didn't support LTools, and because it was a commercial product, there were 
probably impediments to using a good idea from it (or any other 3rd-party 
program) in subsequent versions of Legacy.



It just seems that if there were an active community of Legacy users (as there 
is for TNG), with the ability to create mods for public use (at the user's own 
risk), then good ideas would come quicker for future improvements to Legacy.  
The mod would enable the value of a potential improvement to be assessed "in 
advance" - rather than the current system of user suggestions and potential use 
by Legacy in the future.



It also seems like a vibrant community of Legacy users, working together to 
improve Legacy, would be good for the Millenia  Corp. as well.



Thanks again for hearing me out.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree



-Original Message-

From: Brian/Support [ <mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]

Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 10:04 AM

To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com> legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy



There is no Millennia supported sites or tools of the sort you seem to be 
looking for (I looked at the forum you included in you message). The only 
officially endorsed applications are those listed on our Add-ons.

These are third party developed programs which can access the Legacy database 
and which provide features not included in or that augment Legacy features. 
Support for those Addons is by the third party developers not by Millennia corp.



Ltools is the only tool that I am aware of that would access and update the 
Legacy database. The application was never endorsed by the company so users of 
Ltools were using it at their own risk. If they messed up their Legacy database 
to the point where it was unusable by Legacy we could not help them.



Never having used TNG I have no idea how those "Mods" worked with TNG nor what 
support if any is provided by the owners of TNG to those wh

RE: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy

[Don Quigley]

Thanks for your reply, Brian.  I suspected about as much as you've stated.

TNG (The Next Generation of Generation of Sitebuilding, 
http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/ ) is what I use to as a website to display my 
family tree that I manage in Legacy.  I guess you could call it "open source" 
in that the PHP scripts can be modified - and often with quite useful 
improvements.  The better "mods" seem to eventually become part of TNG upgrades.

What I was looking for with Legacy was "utility" mods that could do things that 
are not currently built into Legacy - such as reports tailored to user needs, 
and simple Excel/Access editing or searching of Legacy databases.  I know you 
didn't support LTools, and because it was a commercial product, there were 
probably impediments to using a good idea from it (or any other 3rd-party 
program) in subsequent versions of Legacy.

It just seems that if there were an active community of Legacy users (as there 
is for TNG), with the ability to create mods for public use (at the user's own 
risk), then good ideas would come quicker for future improvements to Legacy.  
The mod would enable the value of a potential improvement to be assessed "in 
advance" - rather than the current system of user suggestions and potential use 
by Legacy in the future.

It also seems like a vibrant community of Legacy users, working together to 
improve Legacy, would be good for the Millenia  Corp. as well.

Thanks again for hearing me out.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 10:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy

There is no Millennia supported sites or tools of the sort you seem to be 
looking for (I looked at the forum you included in you message). The only 
officially endorsed applications are those listed on our Add-ons.
These are third party developed programs which can access the Legacy database 
and which provide features not included in or that augment Legacy features. 
Support for those Addons is by the third party developers not by Millennia corp.

Ltools is the only tool that I am aware of that would access and update the 
Legacy database. The application was never endorsed by the company so users of 
Ltools were using it at their own risk. If they messed up their Legacy database 
to the point where it was unusable by Legacy we could not help them.

Never having used TNG I have no idea how those "Mods" worked with TNG nor what 
support if any is provided by the owners of TNG to those who use the mods.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 05/02/2016 22:55, Don Quigley wrote:
> Are there any Legacy-supported websites devoted to mods or utilities
> for Legacy users - similar to the Wiki for TNG:
>
> http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/
> http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Mods_for_TNG_v10
>
> LTools http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/ has been
> "retired".  Is there anything out there to replace it?
>
> Donald Quigley
> Escondido, CA




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[LegacyUG] Mods / Utilities for Legacy

[Don Quigley]

Are there any Legacy-supported websites devoted to mods or utilities for
Legacy users - similar to the Wiki for TNG:



http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/
http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Mods_for_TNG_v10



LToolshttp://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/has been
"retired".  Is there anything out there to replace it?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Test All Media Folders

[Don Quigley]

Dave - Have you check in the source and the source detail?

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Johnson [mailto:davel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 4:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Test All Media Folders

Thanks, Brian, but that didn't seem to be the problem.  The problem still 
exists.

Is there a way to unlink the records that are identified by the "Test All 
Medial Locations"?

Dave

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-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 3:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Test All Media Folders

Look at the sources for those three individuals. The media may be linked to the 
source for the event not directly to the event.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 01/02/2016 17:39, Dave Johnson wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I have been cleaning up the names and locations of many of my images.  So far 
> all but one has worked fine.  For the one immigration image, I moved it into 
> another surname file.  Then in the Individual's Information View, I modified 
> the Immigration Event to point to the new location for the image.  After do 
> so, I ran the "Test All Media Folders" and this single file is still 
> referenced for three individuals.  Having changed all the Immigration Events 
> for all three individuals, I ran the "Test All Media Folders" again and it 
> still lists the three individuals as referencing this image.  I've thoroughly 
> looked at every piece of data and event to see where this file is referenced 
> and I can find none except the Immigration Event.  So I closed Legacy, opened 
> it up again and ran the "Test All Media Folders" again.  The three 
> individuals still reference this file.  I have deleted the image and added it 
> again.  Same results.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] Digitized Images

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

Wonderful !!!


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-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 4:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Images

Dave,

You can get a list of media and what it is attached to. It's just in a strange 
place.
Go to View - Scrapbook
On the Scrapbook dialogue see the Print Media File List button after you've 
chosen the options of what media to include.
Under the button in Deluxe version you can choose to include what the media is 
connected to.
If you save this as a PDF you can then search it.

Cathy
> Dave Johnson  Saturday, 30 January 2016
> 2:45 AM Hey,
>
> I have thousands of digitized images referenced in my Legacy database.
> Is there a way to identify a particular document and which legacy
> family the document is referenced in. For instance, I have linked a
> copy of the 1850 Census to several of my ancestors. Can I find out
> which ancestors reference this particular 1850 census document?
>
> Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] Digitized Images

[Don Quigley]

Dave Keeney,



Very clever, Dave.  The Media Relinker seems to do the same thing.  That 
approach will be very useful to me, as I have thousands of scanned images, most 
of which are linked to multiple persons & events.



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From: Dave Keeney [mailto:dave.kee...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 2:32 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digitized Images



If I understand your problem correctly this is what I do.



1. Temporarily change the name of the census. I usually prepend an "x" to the 
name.

2. Check the media links from Legacy. Options -> Customize -> 6. Locations -> 
Test All Media Folders ..." with the "Make a list of all missing media files. 
This will create a text file with a list of everything that that file is 
associated with.

3. Do what ever you need to do with the list.

4. Change the name back to the original, and do the Media Test again to make 
sure everything is back to normal.



Dave



On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:54 PM, David C Abernathy mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com> > wrote:

This is why one needs to manage their own "media" within subfolder for each 
tree.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digitized Images

Hey,

I have thousands of digitized images referenced in my Legacy database.  Is 
there a way to identify a particular document and which legacy family the 
document is referenced in.  For instance, I have linked a copy of the 1850 
Census to several of my ancestors.  Can I find out which ancestors reference 
this particular 1850 census document?

Dave





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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Replace

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Brian.

Don Quigley
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-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 9:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Replace

I have just tested this and I think there is a bug. I also searched the 
Repository-Home Page field but the results I got indicate that legacy may be 
searching the Event Addresses not the Repository Addresses. if more testing 
confirms there is a bug I will submit a problem report to have it fixed.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 14/11/2015 8:56 PM, Don Quigley wrote:
> Wendy,
>
> I'm searching in the "Repository-Home Page" field and no matter what text I 
> enter, it will not find it.  Yet I know the text exists in some records.  
> Curiously, it will find records that have a blank field.
>
> FYI - I have the "Anywhere in field" box checked, though it doesn't seem to 
> matter which boxes are checked.
>
> I have used S&R extensively with generally good success and other fields seem 
> to be OK right now.  But I do remember some problems in the past with not all 
> search text being found.
>
> Donald Quigley
> Escondido, CA
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree
> http: //www.donquigley.net




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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Replace

[Don Quigley]

Wendy,

I'm searching in the "Repository-Home Page" field and no matter what text I 
enter, it will not find it.  Yet I know the text exists in some records.  
Curiously, it will find records that have a blank field.

FYI - I have the "Anywhere in field" box checked, though it doesn't seem to 
matter which boxes are checked.

I have used S&R extensively with generally good success and other fields seem 
to be OK right now.  But I do remember some problems in the past with not all 
search text being found.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
http: //www.donquigley.net

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 5:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Replace

I've run a Search Replace in the past hour, as it happens, having never used it 
before but read about it many times over the years. I did not use the "replace" 
portion (I "skipped" so it would go on to look for the next one), but the 
"search" found what I was looking for.

Can you tell us what you're doing, that you're not getting the expected result?

Wendy

Don Quigley wrote on 15/11/2015 07:47:
>
> Has anyone else had problems with SR not finding valid search strings
> in a selected field?
>
> Donald Quigley
>




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[LegacyUG] Search Replace

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Has anyone else had problems with SR not finding valid search strings in a
selected field?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Using Ancestry.com with legacy

[Don Quigley]

Ditto



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From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:48 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Using Ancestry.com with legacy



James,

Beware Ancestry hints. Yes they can be helpful but they need very careful 
checking. They're often referencing someone totally unconnected.

Download actual documents and then attach them where appropriate in Legacy.

There's no quick way, just more efficient ways. eg, if that's all you are 
downloading, set your download folder to your default media folder.

I don't update my Ancestry tree. I periodically delete it and export a new 
gedcom from Legacy to upload another. If I wanted to add photos to my Ancestry 
tree, I'd upload a much smaller one to a new ancestry tree or add the people 
one by one in a new permanent tree.

Cathy

l...@jamesmunafo.com   wrote:




How are other people dealing with trying to update an Ancestry.com
 family file and Legacy. I like the tips in
Ancestry and would love to effortlessly attached the hints and the
actual document to my Legacy files.
I am a bit new to this, some experience, so forgive the question if
its been dealt with prior
Thanks in advance,
James





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RE: [LegacyUG] Sort Order - Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Cathy & Jenny,



Thanks for your replies.  I tend to have a lot of sources for each fact & event 
- 10 or more is not uncommon.  My Master Source List is sorted alphabetically, 
although in my file system I give each Source List Name a “prefix” number – ie, 
0013 - Will of Isaac Quigley, 10 Jun 1817, so the sorting is effectively 
numerical.  I would like the Assigned Sources in each event for an individual 
to be sorted the same way because it would be easier for me to look for 
specific sources when working on an individual.



Donald Quigley

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From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 8:12 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Order - Source List Name



Why?

The Source List Name is your finding aid to find the Master Source you need. In 
my source list it doesn't reflect the alpha listing of the actual sources.

Do you mean you want them alphabetical from the Source List Name within each 
field? or do you only apply sources to the Unassigned field? I want my sources 
in the order that I found them that helps tell the story of my research.

Puzzled.
If you tell us why, we might be able to give you a different way to achieve 
your aim?

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:




Is there any way to sort the sources for an individual to match the
order of the Master Source List (ie, alphabetically) - other than by
manually using the Up & Down arrows on the left side of the Assigned
Sources window?

Donald Quigley





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[LegacyUG] Sort Order - Source List Name

[Don Quigley]

Is there any way to sort the sources for an individual to match the order of
the Master Source List (ie, alphabetically) - other than by manually using
the Up & Down arrows on the left side of the Assigned Sources window?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Notes Report

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Jay & Rune.



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From: Rune Mattsson [mailto:rune.matts...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes Report



Not exactly a report but Search ->Find -> Detailed Search and then Look for 
whom=Individual, Where to look=Notes-General (or Research or.), How to 
look=Wildcard, What to look for=?*

And then Create List

It gives a Search list with all persons having notes where you can step thru 
and edit



2015-07-03 20:44 GMT+02:00 Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> >:

Is there a way to create a “Notes” report for an entire family file?  I know I 
have a lot of old notes from my early days of computerized family history data 
entry.  I’d like to clean them up, delete, etc., but doing one person at a time 
seems like a daunting task.  I can view the notes in my TNG family tree, but 
would like to do so directly within Legacy if possible.



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[LegacyUG] Notes Report

[Don Quigley]

Is there a way to create a "Notes" report for an entire family file?  I know
I have a lot of old notes from my early days of computerized family history
data entry.  I'd like to clean them up, delete, etc., but doing one person
at a time seems like a daunting task.  I can view the notes in my TNG family
tree, but would like to do so directly within Legacy if possible.



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RE: [LegacyUG] People Using Specific Location

[Don Quigley]

Please add my name to your "short" list. As I am now aware of the problem, I 
sure would like to see it fixed ASAP.

Donald Quigley
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] People Using Specific Location

George,

I have added you to the short list of persons who have reported this problem 
and brought the issue back to the top of the issues list. I can't predict when 
the programmers will fix the issue and a new update released.


 Original Message 
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> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:32 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
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>
> Jim:
>
> Sorry, I meant to ask if there were any plans to fix the issue.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jim Terry/Support <
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>
> > George,
> >
> > Sorry, There are no work-arounds for the problem.
> >
> > Jim
> > Legacy Family Tree
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> >
> >  Original Message 
> > > From: "GeoPappas" 
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> > > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] People Using Specific Location
> > >
> > > Jim:
> > >
> > > Thanks.  Are there any place to fix the issue?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Jim Terry/Support <
> > > jimte...@legacyusers.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > George,
> > > >
> > > > This is a known Shared Event issue that is listed in our bug
tracking
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RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Sources

[Don Quigley]

Good approach, Jenny.  I will use it!

Donald Quigley
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-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copy Sources

On 11/06/2015 21:00, Michele/Support wrote:
> In the Master Source List highlight the source you want to use to make
> a new source and click Edit.
>
> Make the changes and click Save.
>
> You will get a dialog box with two choices.
>
> Choose the second one, Apply the changes to a new copy.
>
> Now you will have your original source and your new source based on
> the original.
>
> Be careful.  If you are not paying attention you will overwrite which
> would be a bad thing.
>
Being very careful to avoid precisely what Michelle warns about, having clicked 
Edit, I immediately type a new name for the new Source and press Save, choosing 
the second option.  Then I highlight the new version and click Edit again and 
make the necessary changes.

This way, the worst that can happen if I am not concentrating is that I will 
have changed the name of a Master Source in use.  Easy enough to change it back 
again.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Sources

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Wonderful! Thank you.



Donald Quigley

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From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Sources



Donald…

In the Master Source List highlight the source you want to use to make a new 
source and click Edit.

Make the changes and click Save.

You will get a dialog box with two choices.

Choose the second one, Apply the changes to a new copy.

Now you will have your original source and your new source based on the 
original.



Be careful.  If you are not paying attention you will overwrite which would be 
a bad thing.





Michele

Technical Support

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com>



From: Don Quigley [mailto:dwquig...@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Copy Sources



Has anybody found a way to copy an existing master source when creating a new 
one where he information to be entered for the new source is very similar to 
the existing one?

Just trying to save time.



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[LegacyUG] Copy Sources

[Don Quigley]

Has anybody found a way to copy an existing master source when creating a
new one where he information to be entered for the new source is very
similar to the existing one?

Just trying to save time.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

Pat,



I’ve replied to similar questions in the past.  I currently "distribute" the 
shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM exported from Legacy and 
modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA code I prepared.  Takes about 20 
min to process my 3700-person family tree, with a GEDCOM over 300,000 lines.  
I’ve successfully uploaded the modified GEDCOMs to Ancestry and to my TNG site, 
so I suspect it would work for Family Search as well.



I'm willing to share with others by email (can't include attachment in the 
LegacyUsers messages).



Don





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From: pcord...@gmail.com [mailto:pcord...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:39 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Shared Events



So, I love shared events because it's such a timesaver in Legacy.  However, 
none of these shared events can be shared with Family Search family tree!  
Suggestions?



Thanks in advance,

Pat



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RE: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

Gerald,



I agree with you that trying to manually modify GEDCOM in Excel would me an 
impossible task.  That’s why I wrote Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) code 
(i.e., Excel macros) to do the modifying automatically.  Think of the 
macro-enable spreadsheet as a GEDCOM preprocessor in going from Legacy to TNG.



Access is a database that can read and edit the Legacy .fdb file, which is an 
Access database.  LTools is an example of a program that uses Access to edit 
the Legacy  data.  I have it, but haven’t been able to use it very much because 
it cannot handle shared events, which I routinely use because of the time it 
saves on data input.  I have used Access directly to view various Legacy 
database tables, mainly to check for inconsistencies in my data input.  But any 
changes that need to be made have been done directly in Legacy.



Don Quigley

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Escondido, CA 92025

(H) 760-746-5887

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From: gerald [mailto:g...@representative.com]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:50 AM
To: Don Quigley
Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events



Don, I tried what you suggest --save to GEDCOM and then open in Excel to edit. 
But there is so much extraneous data, it would take memonths to edit! I would 
give up. You also mention a VBA code, and I have no idea what that is. Would 
you be able to explain this a bit more? How is this different from Access which 
I have read others use for editing?



Do then provide this Excel file to your particepants, or some other format?



Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 2:15 PM
From: "Don Quigley" 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

John,

I replied to a similar question a month or so ago. I currently "distribute" the 
shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM exported from Legacy and 
modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA code I prepared. Takes about 20 
min to process my 3700-person family tree, with a GEDCOM over 300,000 lines.

I'm willing to share with others by email (can't include attachment in the 
LegacyUsers messages).

Don

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
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http://www.donquigley.net

-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

Legacy TNG Users,

How are you handling your shared events when you export your Gedcom for TNG? Is 
it important for you to have your Shared event displayed on your TNG web site?

Currently, TNG does not support importing shared events even though both Legacy 
8 and Roots Magic export shared events with basically the same Gedcom.

When Legacy 8 was released in Nov 2013, TNG's developer Darrin seemed to commit 
to supporting shared events by TNG 11. However, since making that commitment, 
he has not heard from you that you want them supported so he is no longer 
committed to doing it.

If you want shared events in TNG, it is time to write him and say that you are 
expecting this support soon.

Just this past week, I had a contact buy Legacy and TNG so he could move from 
FTM and use shared events.

I know there are many more people with this interest. As my principal 
publishing is done on the Web with TNG, shared events are useless to me until 
TNG can support them.

Please let your voices be heard :-)

john.





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[LegacyUG] Unknown Persons

[Don Quigley]

Some of the recent messages have prompted this more general question I have
about how to enter "names" for unknown persons in Legacy, particularly for
persons with no known given or surname.  This situation typically arises for
a female with no known surname, for whom I have information about her
parents that I want to record and have in the database when (if) I find the
missing names.  I also need parents for siblings to be linked, even if their
surnames are unknown.



I have always used ??? as the unknown given and/or surname for a person.
Legacy warns me against doing so, but allows me to do it.  However, if I
leave both fields blank, Legacy will prevent me from saving the person.



For me, ??? seems to work well, but I've often wondered why does Legacy (and
other geneaology sources) warn against the use of a questionmark in a name?
Are they just referring to the practice of trying to show uncertainty about
a name - i.e., John Smith?.  I don't do that.



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RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

John - My responses are below.

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-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:24 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

Don,

Just because you have a workaround, does not mean that direct support by TNG 
should not be done in the future.

Response:  I couldn't agree more.  But I needed a workaround right now so that 
I could use TNG without leaving out a lot of useful information about people 
that I wanted to share with family and public visitors to my site.

But there is 2 immediate problems I would see with this and one potential 
problem

1/ If we become dependent on this, how can we be sure that you are available to 
maintain it while Legacy and TNG move forward. How will the average user know 
that your tool is even available.

Response:  I never intended for my solution to be widely used .  It was simply 
a temporary workaround that others are welcome to use if it is useful to them.

2/ You have a 3700 person file, I have a 125K person file and Richard Weber has 
over 400K person file. I suspect that those files could take exponentially 
longer to process.

Response:  Not sure it would be exponentially longer to process, but at least 
proportionally.  For your size files, it would probably not be feasible.

3/ How does your tool handle different roles and the notes that might be 
attached to each role player?

Response:  Currently, it does not because I don't use roles and individual 
notes very much for shared events.  However, the VBA code could be modified to 
add the person roles/notes to the event note that displays on their page.

Please feel free to email me a copy of the tool, privately, of course.

Response:  I will do that.

john.

At 04:15 PM 3/26/2015, Don Quigley wrote:
>John,
>
>I replied to a similar question a month or so ago.  I currently
>"distribute" the shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM
>exported from Legacy and modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA
>code I prepared.  Takes about 20 min to process my 3700-person family
>tree, with a GEDCOM over 300,000 lines.
>
>I'm willing to share with others by email (can't include attachment in
>the LegacyUsers messages).
>
>Don
>
>Donald Quigley
>Escondido, CA
>Quigley Doyle Family Tree
>http://www.donquigley.net
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events
>
>Legacy TNG Users,
>
>How are you handling your shared events when you export your Gedcom for
>TNG? Is it important for you to have your Shared event displayed on
>your TNG web site?
>
>Currently, TNG does not support importing shared events even though
>both Legacy 8 and Roots Magic export shared events with basically the
>same Gedcom.
>
>When Legacy 8 was released in Nov 2013, TNG's developer Darrin seemed
>to commit to supporting shared events by TNG 11. However, since making
>that commitment, he has not heard from you that you want them supported
>so he is no longer committed to doing it.
>
>If you want shared events in TNG, it is time to write him and say that
>you are expecting this support soon.
>
>Just this past week, I had a contact buy Legacy and TNG so he could
>move from FTM and use shared events.
>
>I know there are many more people with this interest. As my principal
>publishing is done on the Web with TNG, shared events are useless to me
>until TNG can support them.
>
>Please let your voices be heard :-)
>
>john.
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

John - See my responses below.



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-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:00 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events



Don,



I went back and looked at you January message on this subject.



1/ I have asked several times for Legacy to have a shared events export option 
to do this automatically. You should suggest it at



 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp> 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp



This would the best way to handle it. Even if TNG supported it, that would not 
solve this for people using Ancestry trees.



--> in fact everyone who has this concern should enter this as a

suggestion. They do count the number of times something is asked for when 
prioritizing what to change.



Response:  I agree that Legacy’s export of shared events to a Legacy GEDCOM 
file, works “automatically” only if transferring a family file to another 
Legacy user.



2/ That said, what you are doing is not a shared event but just a copy of the 
event to the person who has a role in the event. You would get no hyperlink to 
show all of the people who are attached to the event and what their role in the 
event might be.



Response:  You are correct about no hyperlink at the event level.  But all 
persons show as being linked to the source for the event.  You are also correct 
about event roles not showing, but they could be added to the event notes by 
amending the VBA code.  I don’t use roles very much, so I haven’t done that.



Correct me if I am wrong, but what you have done is fine for census events, but 
does it really work for birth events or baptism or other vital events that are 
shared?  How would it work for a marriage event that is shared? Would the 
couple become married to their witnesses, parents, minister???



Response:  I think you are correct about it not working for vital events.  I 
have only used it for censuses, residences, newspaper articles, city 
directories, photographs, etc.



john.







At 04:15 PM 3/26/2015, Don Quigley wrote:

>John,

>

>I replied to a similar question a month or so ago.  I currently

>"distribute" the shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM

>exported from Legacy and modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA

>code I prepared.  Takes about 20 min to process my 3700-person family

>tree, with a GEDCOM over 300,000 lines.

>

>I'm willing to share with others by email (can't include attachment in

>the LegacyUsers messages).

>

>Don

>

>Donald Quigley

>Escondido, CA

>Quigley Doyle Family Tree

> <http://www.donquigley.net> http://www.donquigley.net

>

>-Original Message-

>From: John B. Lisle [ <mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com> 
>mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]

>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM

>To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com> legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

>Subject: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

>

>Legacy TNG Users,

>

>How are you handling your shared events when you export your Gedcom for

>TNG? Is it important for you to have your Shared event displayed on

>your TNG web site?

>

>Currently, TNG does not support importing shared events even though

>both Legacy 8 and Roots Magic export shared events with basically the

>same Gedcom.

>

>When Legacy 8 was released in Nov 2013, TNG's developer Darrin seemed

>to commit to supporting shared events by TNG 11. However, since making

>that commitment, he has not heard from you that you want them supported

>so he is no longer committed to doing it.

>

>If you want shared events in TNG, it is time to write him and say that

>you are expecting this support soon.

>

>Just this past week, I had a contact buy Legacy and TNG so he could

>move from FTM and use shared events.

>

>I know there are many more people with this interest. As my principal

>publishing is done on the Web with TNG, shared events are useless to me

>until TNG can support them.

>

>Please let your voices be heard :-)

>

>john.

>

>

>

>

>

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RE: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

[Don Quigley]

John,

I replied to a similar question a month or so ago.  I currently "distribute" 
the shared events to all participants by taking the GEDCOM exported from Legacy 
and modifying it in an Excel spreadsheet using VBA code I prepared.  Takes 
about 20 min to process my 3700-person family tree, with a GEDCOM over 300,000 
lines.

I'm willing to share with others by email (can't include attachment in the 
LegacyUsers messages).

Don

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
http://www.donquigley.net

-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] TNG and Shared Events

Legacy TNG Users,

How are you handling your shared events when you export your Gedcom for TNG? Is 
it important for you to have your Shared event displayed on your TNG web site?

Currently, TNG does not support importing shared events even though both Legacy 
8 and Roots Magic export shared events with basically the same Gedcom.

When Legacy 8 was released in Nov 2013, TNG's developer Darrin seemed to commit 
to supporting shared events by TNG 11. However, since making that commitment, 
he has not heard from you that you want them supported so he is no longer 
committed to doing it.

If you want shared events in TNG, it is time to write him and say that you are 
expecting this support soon.

Just this past week, I had a contact buy Legacy and TNG so he could move from 
FTM and use shared events.

I know there are many more people with this interest. As my principal 
publishing is done on the Web with TNG, shared events are useless to me until 
TNG can support them.

Please let your voices be heard :-)

john.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status

[Don Quigley]

The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding© ("TNG")



http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php



TNG is a popular method of creating genealogy websites.



Donald Quigley

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From: memc...@aol.com [mailto:memc...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:29 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status



Cathy and Don used the following initials: TNG.

They stand for what"

My search came up with "Star Trek The Next Generation"

Thanks,

Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA



In a message dated 3/25/2015 8:29:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
genea...@gmail.com writes:

I understand that TNG has no problem



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RE: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status

[Don Quigley]

“Produce (Gedcom) File for Legacy” – with Child Status not excluded.



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From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status



What GEDCOM version do you use?


CE


  _

From: dwquig...@cox.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 18:05:02 -0700

Hmmm.  On my TNG website, the "child relationship" seems to show properly as 
the "Relationship"  under a parent on a child's Personal Information page









Donald Quigley

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-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status



Hi,



A user recently reported to me that Child Status attributes, such as Stillborn, 
Twin, Adopted, etc., were not being imported into his TNG web site from a 
Legacy Gedcom file.



Analysis shows that Legacy is exporting the Child Status in Gedcom, and can 
import those Legacy Gedcoms properly back into in Legacy. But the TNG web 
publishing application that many Legacy users use does not import the tag that 
Legacy uses to report Child Status. (Legacy currently exports it as an 
attribute of the child in the family structure.)



--> IE, none of your Child Status attributes have EVER been imported

into TNG. Maybe this OK with you? Maybe you have never noticed?



Further analysis shows that Legacy's approach to Child Status seems

to be unique among the major genealogy products and, although the

best (as far as I am concerned) actually, may not be optimal. In

reality, there is no consistency in how various products implement

Child Status attributes, if they handle them at all.



Consequently, the TNG developer has less incentive to provide the fix

for this mis-match with Legacy.



As this has been a problem for 10+ years with, supposedly, only

myself and one other user expressing concern over this to Legacy, I

would like to know if other users have seen this and would like to

see this resolved. Getting something resolved - and quickly - will

require having many folks second that this is an issue for them.



--> Let me emphasize that this is not a Legacy bug. Legacy itself

works fine. This is a mis-match in the interface between two products.



Also, do you know of any other programs where the current Child

Status implementation is causing a problem from Legacy Gedcoms?



Thanks for listening,



john.

nashua, new hampshire













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RE: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status

[Don Quigley]

Hmmm.  On my TNG website, the "child relationship" seems to show properly as 
the "Relationship"  under a parent on a child's Personal Information page









Donald Quigley

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-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Issue with Gedcom Export of Child Status



Hi,



A user recently reported to me that Child Status attributes, such as Stillborn, 
Twin, Adopted, etc., were not being imported into his TNG web site from a 
Legacy Gedcom file.



Analysis shows that Legacy is exporting the Child Status in Gedcom, and can 
import those Legacy Gedcoms properly back into in Legacy. But the TNG web 
publishing application that many Legacy users use does not import the tag that 
Legacy uses to report Child Status. (Legacy currently exports it as an 
attribute of the child in the family structure.)



--> IE, none of your Child Status attributes have EVER been imported

into TNG. Maybe this OK with you? Maybe you have never noticed?



Further analysis shows that Legacy's approach to Child Status seems

to be unique among the major genealogy products and, although the

best (as far as I am concerned) actually, may not be optimal. In

reality, there is no consistency in how various products implement

Child Status attributes, if they handle them at all.



Consequently, the TNG developer has less incentive to provide the fix

for this mis-match with Legacy.



As this has been a problem for 10+ years with, supposedly, only

myself and one other user expressing concern over this to Legacy, I

would like to know if other users have seen this and would like to

see this resolved. Getting something resolved - and quickly - will

require having many folks second that this is an issue for them.



--> Let me emphasize that this is not a Legacy bug. Legacy itself

works fine. This is a mis-match in the interface between two products.



Also, do you know of any other programs where the current Child

Status implementation is causing a problem from Legacy Gedcoms?



Thanks for listening,



john.

nashua, new hampshire













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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

[Don Quigley]

Thanks, Jerry.  I have communicated with Dennis in the past.



Donald Quigley

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From: Jerry in Michigan [mailto:bearjerca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:43 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



Hi Don. I was going to make the same suggestion as Jay. Dennis saved me many 
hours of work when I had a problem on my Legacy database a few years back. I 
also purchased L-Tools, but this was something Dennis showed me how to do apart 
from L-Tools because he knows Microsoft Access so well. I don't think he keeps 
up with the Legacy email lists, so if you want to see if he can help, I think 
you would have to email him directly at  <mailto:Dennis@zippersoftware,com> 
Dennis@zippersoftware,com



Jerry Boor - MerriamFamilyTree.org



-- Original Message ------

From: "Don Quigley" < <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> dwquig...@cox.net>

To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

Sent: 3/2/2015 1:59:49 PM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



Yes, Jay, I have LTools.  But it is limited in what I need to do and (as you 
suggest) has issues with v.8 of Legacy.  It has been a big help to me, though, 
for figuring out what the various tables in the .fdb file are for.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> http://www.donquigley.net



From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto: <mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com> jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:43 AM
To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com> legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



Donald,

Have you tried using LTools?

It will make changes directly to the Legacy database.  (needs to be before 
Legacy 8)

And it's written specifically as a tool for Legacy, whereas Access is the 
format that Legacy database is stored in, the potential for an error that could 
'break' your Legacy database.

The only time I have let Access make any changes is when my "File Check" has 
completely hung up. (I mean like even after MANY hours) The repair database 
tool seems to resolve the issue.

Note: I am not connected in any way to the company that sells LTools, just an 
EXTREME user of LTools , so much so that I have not migrated to Legacy 8 
because I still use LTools too much.

The 'Data Bridge" tool is a magic wand that pulls all my tagged items and 
bounces them against one of many Ancestry databases and allows drag and drop 
and automated sourcing of records.

Hope that helps,

Jay





On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Don Quigley < <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
dwquig...@cox.net> wrote:

Sorry if I’m asking a question that has been previously answered, but I can’t 
seem to get into the old usergroup messages today.



I have begun to use MS Access to check for errors, consistency and missing 
information in my database sources.  That works and I can easily see what needs 
to be changed in Legacy.  But a better approach would seem to be to do the 
changes in the database tables directly in Access – particularly where global 
search/replace and copy/paste tools can be used.



Does anyone know of a good “primer” for doing this with the Legacy database?  
I’d like to avoid any pitfalls that others with more experience have already 
identified.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> http://www.donquigley.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

[Don Quigley]

Yes, Jay, I have LTools.  But it is limited in what I need to do and (as you 
suggest) has issues with v.8 of Legacy.  It has been a big help to me, though, 
for figuring out what the various tables in the .fdb file are for.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

http://www.donquigley.net



From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



Donald,

Have you tried using LTools?

It will make changes directly to the Legacy database.  (needs to be before 
Legacy 8)

And it's written specifically as a tool for Legacy, whereas Access is the 
format that Legacy database is stored in, the potential for an error that could 
'break' your Legacy database.

The only time I have let Access make any changes is when my "File Check" has 
completely hung up. (I mean like even after MANY hours) The repair database 
tool seems to resolve the issue.

Note: I am not connected in any way to the company that sells LTools, just an 
EXTREME user of LTools , so much so that I have not migrated to Legacy 8 
because I still use LTools too much.

The 'Data Bridge" tool is a magic wand that pulls all my tagged items and 
bounces them against one of many Ancestry databases and allows drag and drop 
and automated sourcing of records.

Hope that helps,

Jay







On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Don Quigley  wrote:

Sorry if I’m asking a question that has been previously answered, but I can’t 
seem to get into the old usergroup messages today.



I have begun to use MS Access to check for errors, consistency and missing 
information in my database sources.  That works and I can easily see what needs 
to be changed in Legacy.  But a better approach would seem to be to do the 
changes in the database tables directly in Access – particularly where global 
search/replace and copy/paste tools can be used.



Does anyone know of a good “primer” for doing this with the Legacy database?  
I’d like to avoid any pitfalls that others with more experience have already 
identified.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

http://www.donquigley.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

[Don Quigley]

Right!  So far I've only been opening a copy of the .fdb file.

Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree
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-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 9:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

ALWAYS Back up the file (File > Backup File) before even *looking* at the 
tables in Access - for fear of inadvertent change.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Don Quigley  wrote:
> Sorry if I’m asking a question that has been previously answered, but
> I can’t seem to get into the old usergroup messages today.
>
> I have begun to use MS Access to check for errors, consistency and
> missing information in my database sources.  That works and I can
> easily see what needs to be changed in Legacy.  But a better approach
> would seem to be to do the changes in the database tables directly in
> Access – particularly where global search/replace and copy/paste tools can be 
> used.
>
> Does anyone know of a good “primer” for doing this with the Legacy database?
> I’d like to avoid any pitfalls that others with more experience have
> already identified.
>
> Donald Quigley
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

[Don Quigley]

They are within the .fdb file created by legacy.



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From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 9:30 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



I've been meaning to do the same but I can't find any of the tables. Do you 
know where they are?

Graham



From: Don Quigley [mailto:dwquig...@cox.net]
Sent: 02 March 2015 17:27
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access



Sorry if I’m asking a question that has been previously answered, but I can’t 
seem to get into the old usergroup messages today.



I have begun to use MS Access to check for errors, consistency and missing 
information in my database sources.  That works and I can easily see what needs 
to be changed in Legacy.  But a better approach would seem to be to do the 
changes in the database tables directly in Access – particularly where global 
search/replace and copy/paste tools can be used.



Does anyone know of a good “primer” for doing this with the Legacy database?  
I’d like to avoid any pitfalls that others with more experience have already 
identified.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

http://www.donquigley.net





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[LegacyUG] View & Edit Legacy Data in MS Access

[Don Quigley]

Sorry if I'm asking a question that has been previously answered, but I
can't seem to get into the old usergroup messages today.



I have begun to use MS Access to check for errors, consistency and missing
information in my database sources.  That works and I can easily see what
needs to be changed in Legacy.  But a better approach would seem to be to do
the changes in the database tables directly in Access - particularly where
global search/replace and copy/paste tools can be used.



Does anyone know of a good "primer" for doing this with the Legacy database?
I'd like to avoid any pitfalls that others with more experience have already
identified.



Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree

http://www.donquigley.net







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RE: [LegacyUG] Mass Sourcing

[Don Quigley]

Leon,



Worked wonderfully.  Thank you so much !



Don Quigley

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From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Sourcing



Don

You can use Advanced Tagging to tag all the people u want to source.



Then use Advanced Sourcing to source fields for the Tagged people.



Try tagging a couple people and then use a advanced sourcing to assign. Source 
to all or specific fields for the Tagged people.



Chap



Chap

¯\_(ツ)_/¯





Sent from my iPad

Leon Chapman

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⛳




On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Don Quigley  wrote:

Perhaps a dumb question, but is there any way in Legacy 8 to add a source en 
mass to a large number of individuals?  I have a large number of individuals 
from many years ago, when I was more interested in adding names than in 
sourcing my information.  Now, having seen the light, I source everything. But 
there are still these people in my database who need to be attributed to the 
source where I found them originally.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Mass Sourcing

[Don Quigley]

Thank you. I’ll try it !!



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From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Sourcing



Don

You can use Advanced Tagging to tag all the people u want to source.



Then use Advanced Sourcing to source fields for the Tagged people.



Try tagging a couple people and then use a advanced sourcing to assign. Source 
to all or specific fields for the Tagged people.



Chap



Chap

¯\_(ツ)_/¯





Sent from my iPad

Leon Chapman

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⛳




On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Don Quigley  wrote:

Perhaps a dumb question, but is there any way in Legacy 8 to add a source en 
mass to a large number of individuals?  I have a large number of individuals 
from many years ago, when I was more interested in adding names than in 
sourcing my information.  Now, having seen the light, I source everything. But 
there are still these people in my database who need to be attributed to the 
source where I found them originally.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

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[LegacyUG] Mass Sourcing

[Don Quigley]

Perhaps a dumb question, but is there any way in Legacy 8 to add a source en
mass to a large number of individuals?  I have a large number of individuals
from many years ago, when I was more interested in adding names than in
sourcing my information.  Now, having seen the light, I source everything.
But there are still these people in my database who need to be attributed to
the source where I found them originally.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA

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http://donquigley.net





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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?

[Don Quigley]

Karsten,



Sure – see my message from yesterday with the code.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA 92025



From: Karsten Weikop [mailto:kars...@weikop.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 1:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Hi Don



That sound great. Is it code that you want to share and make public?




/Karsten Weikop



2015-01-31 6:49 GMT+01:00 Don Quigley :

Jerry,



FYI – I solved the problem by writing some Excel VBA procedures to modify the 
GEDCOM file from Legacy to assign shared events directly to each person.  Works 
in TNG and Ancestry.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA



From: Jerry in Michigan [mailto:bearjerca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:06 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Don, I'm sorry I don't have an answer for your dilemma, but TNG also maintains 
an email list for its users and it has quite a few programmer types involved 
there as well as the owner/creator of the software.  If there is a way to do 
what you need, they might be able to help.  A large number of them use Legacy 
and TNG.  Here's the link to join the email group:  
http://lythgoes.net/mailman/listinfo/tngusers2_lythgoes.net

Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org



-- Original Message ------

From: "Don Quigley" 

To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

Sent: 1/13/2015 12:28:18 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Jay,



That works for the “delete” lines, but doesn’t help with the “add” lines that 
are needed for the “secondary” individuals to get their “own” event.



I don’t want to give up the Share feature of Legacy because it’s a big time 
saver.  But I do want accurate trees in Ancestry to help with my research, and 
in TNG (though I’m just starting there) to get my tree on to the Web.



I ‘m going to play around with importing the text GED file into Excel and 
writing some VB macros to do what is needed.  Was hoping to avoid that effort.



Don



From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Don.

Try Using Notepad++  for editing your gedcom

Search for
2 _Shar

and select the "find all lines with this"

then repeat the process for the 3 _Role

Then at least you can see all the lines and I think you can even delete them 
all at once.

Otherwise I would just go back to Legacy 7.5 and use that to keep in sync.







On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Don Quigley  wrote:

Has anyone developed a simple way to modify GEDCOM files so they can be 
uploaded to sites like Ancestry and TNG that don’t support Legacy’s shared 
events and now lose the events for all individuals except the one for whom the 
event was originally created?



The partial GED file below shows that the changes are not complicated and could 
be made manually in a text editor – except for the fact that family files may 
have 100s or 1000s of shared events/individuals. Way too many to do by hand.



``

0 @I1@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Piper/

2 GIVN Peter

2 SURN Piper

1 SEX M

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [copied below]

2 DATE 2000   [copied below]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [copied below]

2 _SHAR @I2@[deleted]

3 ROLE Household Member[deleted]

1 _UID A519BE2CF0BB421B99E9EB0ACD7F34EF961A

1 CHAN

2 DATE 17 Jul 2014

3 TIME 11:29

1 FAMS @F1@

0 @I2@ INDI

1 NAME Mary /Contrary/

2 GIVN Mary

2 SURN Contrary

1 SEX F

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [inserted]

2 DATE 2000   [inserted]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [inserted]

`````



Thanks for your ideas.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA







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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?

[Don Quigley]

To those who have asked for the “shared events” VBA procedure, I can’t send it 
as an attachment because of the Legacy mailing list guidelines (virus 
concerns).  The Excel procedure is given below.  Maybe cutting and pasting will 
work for you.



Some comments:

1.  The procedure assumes you have already imported  a “For Legacy” GED 
text file into Col. A – Row 1 of the macro-enabled worksheet (.xlsm), 
containing the VBA procedure (macro).

2.  GED Import Sequence: Data – From Text – Delimited File Type – Tab 
Delimiter – Text Data Format – Existing Worksheet: $A:$1.

3.  After running the procedure, the first row of all inserted records for 
an event will be highlighted for checking that all went well.

4.  The modified GEDCOM can then be copied (all the cells in Col. A) to a 
text editor and save as a .GED file.

5.  I can send you my Excel file that automates all of the above, but that 
would have to be done directly, outside of the Legacy mailing list.

6.  Note: The procedure does not append the Notes (specific to the person’s 
role) to the event Notes.  That could be done, but I think the extra code & 
actions will slow down the procedure.  As it is right now, it takes about 23 
minutes to modify my family GEDCOM that has about 3500 individuals and 5000 
master events.



Sub Find_Shared_Events()

'

' Find "2 _SHAR" shared events and copy records to each individual;

' for exporting GEDCOM to TNG and Ancestry (no support for shared events)

'

' Don Quigley; 1/30/2015

'

Dim firstSHAR As Range

Dim firstSHARAdd As String

Dim i As Integer

Dim actCellAdd As String

Dim strname As String

Dim shareName As String

Dim firstRow As String

Dim lastRow As String

Dim recordRange As Range

Dim indivRow As String

Dim indivRange As String

Dim rinRange As Range

Dim likeShare As String



'Start at top of file



Range("A1").Select

i = 1



Do Until i = 4



' Identify first "2 _SHAR" cell for checking later and stopping 
subroutine



If i = 1 Then

Cells.Find(What:="2 _SHAR @", After:=ActiveCell, 
LookIn:=xlValues).Select

Set firstSHAR = ActiveCell

ActiveCell.Offset(-1, 0).Select

i = 2

End If



' Find all "2 _SHAR" cells, one at a time



Cells.Find(What:="2 _SHAR @", After:=ActiveCell, 
LookIn:=xlValues).Select



' If FIND has looped back to first "2 _SHAR" cell, stop subroutine 
(finished)



If i <> 2 Then

firstSHARAdd = firstSHAR.Address(False, False)

actCellAdd = ActiveCell.Address(False, False)

If actCellAdd = firstSHARAdd Then

i = 4

End If

End If



If i = 4 Then Exit Do



i = 3

strname = ActiveCell.Value



'Get shared RIN from cell string & place in Col B



shareName = Mid(strname, 9)



'Check cells above to find "1 " (the "event" that is shared)



Do Until ActiveCell.Value Like "1 *"

ActiveCell.Offset(-1, 0).Select

Loop



'Get row number of first record & place in Col. B



firstRow = ActiveCell.Row



'Check cells below to last record for event

'Finding the first of one or more "2 _SHAR"



Cells.Find(What:="2 _SHAR @", After:=ActiveCell, 
LookIn:=xlValues).Select

ActiveCell.Offset(-1, 0).Select



'Get row number of last record & place in Col. B



lastRow = ActiveCell.Row



'Name range of record values for event



Set recordRange = Range("A" & firstRow & ":" & "A" & lastRow)



'Find shared RINs for event & copy records to their individuals



Do Until ActiveCell.Value Like "1*"

ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select

If ActiveCell.Value Like "2 _SHAR @*" Then

strname = ActiveCell.Value



'Get shared RIN from cell string & place in Col B



shareName = Mid(strname, 9)

Set rinRange = ActiveCell



'Call subroutine to find individual with shared event



GoSub findIndiv



'Return to RIN cell



rinRange.Select

End If

Loop



' Step down 1 row from present location.



ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select

Loop



'Return to top of file

Range("A1").Select



Exit Sub



'

' Subroutine to find individual and insert event records

'

findIndiv:



'Find individual and "1 _UID" row below last of existing event records

RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?

[Don Quigley]

Jerry,



FYI – I solved the problem by writing some Excel VBA procedures to modify the 
GEDCOM file from Legacy to assign shared events directly to each person.  Works 
in TNG and Ancestry.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA



From: Jerry in Michigan [mailto:bearjerca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:06 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Don, I'm sorry I don't have an answer for your dilemma, but TNG also maintains 
an email list for its users and it has quite a few programmer types involved 
there as well as the owner/creator of the software.  If there is a way to do 
what you need, they might be able to help.  A large number of them use Legacy 
and TNG.  Here's the link to join the email group:   
<http://lythgoes.net/mailman/listinfo/tngusers2_lythgoes.net> 
http://lythgoes.net/mailman/listinfo/tngusers2_lythgoes.net

Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org



-- Original Message --

From: "Don Quigley" < <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> dwquig...@cox.net>

To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

Sent: 1/13/2015 12:28:18 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Jay,



That works for the “delete” lines, but doesn’t help with the “add” lines that 
are needed for the “secondary” individuals to get their “own” event.



I don’t want to give up the Share feature of Legacy because it’s a big time 
saver.  But I do want accurate trees in Ancestry to help with my research, and 
in TNG (though I’m just starting there) to get my tree on to the Web.



I ‘m going to play around with importing the text GED file into Excel and 
writing some VB macros to do what is needed.  Was hoping to avoid that effort.



Don



From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto: <mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com> jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:30 PM
To:  <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com> legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Don.

Try Using Notepad++  for editing your gedcom

Search for
2 _Shar

and select the "find all lines with this"

then repeat the process for the 3 _Role



Then at least you can see all the lines and I think you can even delete them 
all at once.

Otherwise I would just go back to Legacy 7.5 and use that to keep in sync.







On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Don Quigley < <mailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
dwquig...@cox.net> wrote:

Has anyone developed a simple way to modify GEDCOM files so they can be 
uploaded to sites like Ancestry and TNG that don’t support Legacy’s shared 
events and now lose the events for all individuals except the one for whom the 
event was originally created?



The partial GED file below shows that the changes are not complicated and could 
be made manually in a text editor – except for the fact that family files may 
have 100s or 1000s of shared events/individuals. Way too many to do by hand.



``

0 @I1@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Piper/

2 GIVN Peter

2 SURN Piper

1 SEX M

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [copied below]

2 DATE 2000   [copied below]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [copied below]

2 _SHAR @I2@[deleted]

3 ROLE Household Member[deleted]

1 _UID A519BE2CF0BB421B99E9EB0ACD7F34EF961A

1 CHAN

2 DATE 17 Jul 2014

3 TIME 11:29

1 FAMS @F1@

0 @I2@ INDI

1 NAME Mary /Contrary/

2 GIVN Mary

2 SURN Contrary

1 SEX F

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [inserted]

2 DATE 2000   [inserted]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [inserted]

`````````



Thanks for your ideas.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA







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RE: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?

[Don Quigley]

Jay,



That works for the “delete” lines, but doesn’t help with the “add” lines that 
are needed for the “secondary” individuals to get their “own” event.



I don’t want to give up the Share feature of Legacy because it’s a big time 
saver.  But I do want accurate trees in Ancestry to help with my research, and 
in TNG (though I’m just starting there) to get my tree on to the Web.



I ‘m going to play around with importing the text GED file into Excel and 
writing some VB macros to do what is needed.  Was hoping to avoid that effort.



Don



From: Jay Wilpolt [mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?



Don.

Try Using Notepad++  for editing your gedcom

Search for
2 _Shar

and select the "find all lines with this"

then repeat the process for the 3 _Role




Then at least you can see all the lines and I think you can even delete them 
all at once.

Otherwise I would just go back to Legacy 7.5 and use that to keep in sync.







On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Don Quigley  wrote:

Has anyone developed a simple way to modify GEDCOM files so they can be 
uploaded to sites like Ancestry and TNG that don’t support Legacy’s shared 
events and now lose the events for all individuals except the one for whom the 
event was originally created?



The partial GED file below shows that the changes are not complicated and could 
be made manually in a text editor – except for the fact that family files may 
have 100s or 1000s of shared events/individuals. Way too many to do by hand.



``

0 @I1@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Piper/

2 GIVN Peter

2 SURN Piper

1 SEX M

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [copied below]

2 DATE 2000   [copied below]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [copied below]

2 _SHAR @I2@[deleted]

3 ROLE Household Member[deleted]

1 _UID A519BE2CF0BB421B99E9EB0ACD7F34EF961A

1 CHAN

2 DATE 17 Jul 2014

3 TIME 11:29

1 FAMS @F1@

0 @I2@ INDI

1 NAME Mary /Contrary/

2 GIVN Mary

2 SURN Contrary

1 SEX F

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [inserted]

2 DATE 2000   [inserted]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [inserted]

`



Thanks for your ideas.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA







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[LegacyUG] Modify GED File to Remove Shared Events?

[Don Quigley]

Has anyone developed a simple way to modify GEDCOM files so they can be
uploaded to sites like Ancestry and TNG that don't support Legacy's shared
events and now lose the events for all individuals except the one for whom
the event was originally created?



The partial GED file below shows that the changes are not complicated and
could be made manually in a text editor - except for the fact that family
files may have 100s or 1000s of shared events/individuals. Way too many to
do by hand.



``

0 @I1@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Piper/

2 GIVN Peter

2 SURN Piper

1 SEX M

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [copied below]

2 DATE 2000   [copied below]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [copied
below]

2 _SHAR @I2@[deleted]

3 ROLE Household Member[deleted]

1 _UID A519BE2CF0BB421B99E9EB0ACD7F34EF961A

1 CHAN

2 DATE 17 Jul 2014

3 TIME 11:29

1 FAMS @F1@

0 @I2@ INDI

1 NAME Mary /Contrary/

2 GIVN Mary

2 SURN Contrary

1 SEX F

1 CENS

2 DATE 1999

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States

1 CENS [inserted]

2 DATE 2000   [inserted]

2 PLAC San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States [inserted]

`



Thanks for your ideas.



Don Quigley

Escondido, CA









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