My ADSL connection report

2003-02-17 Thread Eli Segal
Hi all,
well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and
an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis

Ethernet:
On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there are
instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux
(just load the 8139too module)

ADSL:
Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl
installation
so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was pleasenlty
tell you
that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian
system
I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him, all
i needed is to recompile
my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here !

thanx for your comments
now faster that ever
Eli



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Problem installing not generic network card

2003-02-17 Thread Baruch Shpirer
Title: Problem installing not generic network card






Hi,

I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0

The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the scylid tulip project site

I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ?

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RE: Problem installing not generic network card

2003-02-17 Thread Baruch Shpirer
I already tried modprobe on all smc modules included in the kernel none
works , they designed to later or prior chips

-Original Message-
From: Alon Weinstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Problem installing not generic network card


 Hi,
 I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0
 The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from

 the
scylid tulip project site
 I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ?

I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think
you could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module
and insmod it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work
(since it's not the latest  greatest) try replacing the file in the
kernel sources with the one you downloaded and compile it as a module.



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RE: Problem installing not generic network card

2003-02-17 Thread Alon Weinstein
 Hi,
 I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0
 The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the
scylid tulip project site
 I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ?

I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think you
could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module and insmod
it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work (since it's not
the latest  greatest) try replacing the file in the kernel sources with the
one you downloaded and compile it as a module.


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Re: My ADSL connection report

2003-02-17 Thread Eli Segal
oops ... well no .. sorry

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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: My ADSL connection report


 Can you keep the contacts of this Barak? Have
 you forwarded him to Israeli Linux forums so he
 can be found again?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eli Segal 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:51 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: My ADSL connection report
  
  
  Hi all,
  well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and
  an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis
  
  Ethernet:
  On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my 
  surprise there are
  instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux
  (just load the 8139too module)
  
  ADSL:
  Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about 
  networking nor adsl
  installation
  so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I 
  was pleasenlty
  tell you
  that they instruct me step by step through the installation 
  on my Debian
  system
  I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done 
  with him, all
  i needed is to recompile
  my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here !
  
  thanx for your comments
  now faster that ever
  Eli
  
  
  
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Re: Problem installing not generic network card

2003-02-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Monday 17 February 2003 11:46 am, Baruch Shpirer wrote:
 I already tried modprobe on all smc modules included in the kernel none
 works , they designed to later or prior chips

Well, ISA, ha?

Check the card - if you have a way to jumper it to centain IRQ, then do so and 
check the parameters to tell the module which IRQ you're using.

No Jumpers? welcome to the wonderful world of ISA PnP - be my guest to fiddle 
with pnpdump ;)

Thanks,
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Re: My ADSL connection report

2003-02-17 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200
Eli Segal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was
 pleasenlty tell you  that they instruct me step by step through the
 installation on my Debian system I talk to this guy barak, who also
 has debian

Thanks for the report. Since that happens so rarely in our place
(encountering cluefull support people), I humbly suggest to
encorage this as much as we (rightfull) rant about cluelessness.

One option is to send a thank you mail to this guy and CC the
manager of the support department (email address anybody?). Even
more effective is a paper-letter sent to head of marketing
department. Obviously, any type of letter should indicate that
a large mailing list of Linux geeks as been notified and appreciated
the good service.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Bezeqint or Bezeq. I normally
tried to avoid the company whose long monopoly on long
distance calls caused me a lot of grief for many years.
That's why it's important for me to hear also about their
(maybe rare) moments of wisdom (e.g: employing cluefull
people).


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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:

echo es1371  /etc/modules
  
   Make that  or you run over your other modules :-(

 umm, shouldn't it be:

 echo alias sound es1371  /etc/modules ?

 At least thats what I see here on Mandrake, SuSE and Redhat 7.3, 8.1..

no. /etc/modules . Something simple I can't find in redhat and Mandrake,
for some reason: a list of modules loaded at startup . Not difficult to
create, but why do it yourself?

Don't confuse this with /etc/modules.conf which is the config file of
insmod and modprobe

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: Unable to get soundcard working:
 no. /etc/modules . Something simple I can't find in redhat and Mandrake,
 for some reason: a list of modules loaded at startup . Not difficult to
 create, but why do it yourself?
 
 Don't confuse this with /etc/modules.conf which is the config file of
 insmod and modprobe

Actually, /etc/modules.conf is typically use to load your sound-card module,
but in a round-about way: using aliases to char-major-*.

For example, /dev/dsp is a character-special device with major number 14.
So I have in /etc/modules.conf something like

alias char-major-14 soundcore

This means the soundcard module will only get loaded the first time it is
needed.

This soundcore stuff is for ALSA; Try redhat-config-soundcard for something
that will hopefully work for your card.

In modules.conf you can also specify options to modules, specify programs
to run when the module is loaded/unload (e.g., I use it to save the volume
setting across module reload and even reboots).

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-17 Thread Eliran Gonen
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 doesn't matter. try the modprobe, it should work. sndconfig has problems
 with kernel 2.4 at times.

Which one exactly? I'm runing 2.4.18-686

 is there still a problem? if the manual modprobe helped, just do

Sadly, there is still a problem. I don't get it. Other distros
had no troubles recognizing.

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Re: My ADSL connection report

2003-02-17 Thread Voguemaster
Hey, I've a question:

Why did you have to recompile your kernel ?

Eli

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200, Eli Segal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,
well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and
an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis

Ethernet:
On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there 
are
instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux
(just load the 8139too module)

ADSL:
Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl
installation
so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was 
pleasenlty
tell you
that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian
system
I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him, 
all
i needed is to recompile
my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here !

thanx for your comments
now faster that ever
Eli



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Re: My ADSL connection report

2003-02-17 Thread Eli Segal
well .. first, for the Realtech module
and than for the socket filtering (which I was probably forgot as I
downloaded the latest kernel)


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From: Voguemaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eli Segal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: My ADSL connection report


 Hey, I've a question:

 Why did you have to recompile your kernel ?

 Eli

 On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200, Eli Segal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,
  well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and
  an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis
 
  Ethernet:
  On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there
  are
  instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux
  (just load the 8139too module)
 
  ADSL:
  Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl
  installation
  so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was
  pleasenlty
  tell you
  that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian
  system
  I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him,
  all
  i needed is to recompile
  my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here !
 
  thanx for your comments
  now faster that ever
  Eli
 
 
 
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Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Uri Itscowits
Hi there,

I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
  while all partitions are still unmounted.

I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
  but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.


Any ideas out there ?

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Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Uri Itscowits
Hi there,

I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
  while all partitions are still unmounted.

I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
  but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.


Any ideas out there ?

TIA.
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Re: Problem installing not generic network card

2003-02-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 11:44:01AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
  Hi,
  I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0
  The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the
 scylid tulip project site
  I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ?
 
 I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think you
 could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module and insmod
 it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work (since it's not
 the latest  greatest) try replacing the file in the kernel sources with the
 one you downloaded and compile it as a module.
 


  You might want to diff the file you downloaded and the one from the
kernel-source in order to avoid extra work. My expectation is that there
will be at most minor insignificant differences because I believe it is
an old card that is not produced any more. Do post the results of the
diff to the list in case you will do that. 
  Does your card intended for the ISA bus? If so you might want to check
whether it is of the PNP type. I do keep here the (DOS) gz122.exe which
I have downloaded from http://www.vobis.de/bbs/support/brett47 and will
hopefully work with your card. Just in case the PNP causes to much
difficulties.

  Baruch Shpirer: I sent you an email but didn't got a reply (yet).
Since I am from Tel-Aviv would it be more convenient if I ask Shachar
or someone else to burn a Knoppix CD for me?
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 04:57:52PM +0200, Uri Itscowits wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
   while all partitions are still unmounted.

You can do it the same way the kernel does it in the early boot stages
- by getting the information from lilo, via the boot record. You'll
need to read and parse the boot record, though. Mounting each file
system and checking may very well be easiser... 

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: Guessing filesystem while 
unmounted:
 You can do it the same way the kernel does it in the early boot stages
 - by getting the information from lilo, via the boot record. You'll
 need to read and parse the boot record, though. Mounting each file
 system and checking may very well be easiser... 

If this is supposed to be a hack and not something that must generally
work, you can try fdisk -l and look for bootable Linux partitions.
In many installations the root partition will be exactly of this type.
On other installations, though, you might catch a special /boot
partition, not the / partition, or none at all (lilo doesn't strictly
need the partition to be bootable).

Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub,
not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record
isn't foolproof either.

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub,
 not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record
 isn't foolproof either.

I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I
believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp*
documented. 

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: Guessing filesystem while 
unmounted:
 On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
  Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub,
  not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record
  isn't foolproof either.
 
 I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I
 believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp*
 documented. 

Well, as far as I know Grub does not know where your root filesystem (/)
lives, until it first finds the boot filesystem, finds the grub/grub.conf
file in it (grub understands the ext2 filesystem), reads it and finds there
the specification of where the filesystem is.

This is both quite complex, and very different from what Lilo does; With
lilo, you must rerun lilo (to change the boot sector) every time you
make a change to /etc/lilo.conf. With grub, you don't have to do it, because
most of the information is looked up on your boot filesystem, not on the
boot sector.

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Orna Agmon wrote about Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted:
  Well, as far as I know Grub does not know where your root filesystem (/)
  lives, until it first finds the boot filesystem, finds the grub/grub.conf
  file in it (grub understands the ext2 filesystem), reads it and finds there
  the specification of where the filesystem is.
 
 What happens if you use another filesystem on / ? ext3, for example. Or 
 something that is not ext3 at all? can grub read all of them?

Ext3 is basically backward-compatible with Ext2, in the sense that you can
mount a clean Ext3 system as Ext2 without losing anything. So Grub didn't
need to make any changes to read Ext3 filesystems

Anyway, info grub is your friend when it comes to grub. Quoting from that
info,
The currently supported filesystem types are BSD FFS, DOS FAT16
 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, JFS, XFS,
 and VSTa fs.

If you look on your disk, in directory /boot/grub, you'll notice files
like e2fs_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, etc. - these are (as far as I
know - I'm not really a grub expert...) the files that grub uses to be
able to later read the configuration file, stage2, and finally the actual
kernel, from the file system. Some of this is explained in the info file
(check hacking GRUB).

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread erez

doing :
awk '{if ($2==/)print $1}' /etc/fstab

will print either the root partition  (e.g. /dev/hda2 ) or the root 
label ( e.g. LABEL=/ )
the first is trevial,
the second, can be found by running e2label on all partitions and seeing 
wich has the right label

erez.


Uri Itscowits wrote:

Hi there,

I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
 while all partitions are still unmounted.

I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
 but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.


Any ideas out there ?

TIA.
 



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RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Arik Baratz
 -Original Message-
 From: Uri Itscowits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Hi there,
 
 I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
   while all partitions are still unmounted.
 
 I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
   but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if 
 possible.
 

How about:

dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1024 count=10 | file -

I don't have another type of filesystem to try it on, but for my ext3 ones it works 
fine even if I decrease count to as low as 2 blocks (for 1 block 'file' doesn't 
recognize it).

Disclaimer: No guarentees. Use a modern version of file(1).

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:02:59PM +0200, Uri Itscowits wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
   while all partitions are still unmounted.
 
 I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
   but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.
 
 
 Any ideas out there ?
 


  You are not in a position where you can impose some requirements on 
the the fs before doing this guess work, do you? If you can impose
priory requirements then one way would be to e2label the root fs with
something meaningful. You don't need a fs to be mounted in order to get
its e2label.

E2LABEL(8)   E2LABEL(8)

NAME
e2label - Change the label on an ext2 filesystem

SYNOPSIS
e2label device [ new-label ]

DESCRIPTION
e2label  will  display  or  change  the  filesystem
label  on the ext2 filesystem located on device.

If the optional argument new-label is 
not present, e2label will  simply
display the current filesystem label.
  
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FM radio on Flyvideo 2000

2003-02-17 Thread shlomo solomon
Hi,

At first, this may look like it's off-topic, but since the hardware is OK and 
works in Windows, this is definitely a LINUX problem.

About a month ago, someone on the list (sorry I don't remember who) helped 
solve my problem with the Flyvideo 2000 card by suggesting that I connect the 
audio signal from the VCR I'm using as a video source directly to the 
line-input on my sound card (bypassing the TV card).That solved my problem 
and I can now **hear** TV and not just see it.

But, I still have a problem with the FM radio component of the TV card. I'm 
quite sure that everything is installed correctly (and it does work if I boot 
Windows, so the hardware is OK). Obviously, since the line-input on the sound 
card is connected to the audio output of the VCR, I had to disconnect that 
wire and hook the TV/radio card audio output to the soundcard audio 
line-input. But that doesn't work (just as it didn't work for the TV).

Any ideas?
 
TIA

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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
IA Chillisoft attempted that (non-free), but the real answer comes from the
IA industry itself, statistics shown by the Zend guy at the IBM conference
IA (Doron whats-his-last-name) are that LAMP is much more popular on the

Doron Gerstel.
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Re: policy routing question

2003-02-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
gk and where is the definition of your 'adsl' routing table? there is no

If you mean for 'symbol' adsl - it's in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables.

gk 'adsl routing table' by default. perhaps you forgot to add 'adsl'
gk somewhere in the 'ip ro add' command? something like:
gk
gk ip ro add default table adsl via PPP-host dev ppp0

Yes, that's what I did. I mean, I did not forget - this is the command I
used to set conditional default route. That's why packets went through
ppp0 and not through global default. The problem is that the packets
going in don't work as intended, only ones going out.

gk ofcourse it does - after all, your default route for the default routing
gk table is set to go via ppp0 - thus, _All_ your traffic will be going out

No, it is not. The global default route is through eth0. Sorry for
forgetting to mention it.

gk via that interface. this, while the incoming data is defined to go
gk according to routing table 'adsl', which was not defined.

It is defined. That's why the packets go out through ppp0 - otherwise
they would go out through eth0 - just as other ones which do not match
firewall mark rule. I wish it was as simple as that...

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:49:26PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
  Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub,
  not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record
  isn't foolproof either.
 
 I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I
 believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp*
 documented. 

Actually, the opposite is true; in all native linux file systems,
the first block (which is reserved for a boot record) is completely
unused. Sorry for replying to 2 messages at once, but this is also
in reply to a message of Arik Baratz: make a simple test:
make some file
# dd if=/dev/zero of=test1 bs=100k count=1
create a DOS filesystem on it (which does use the boot record as a
superblock)
# mkdosfs test1
Then create on it an ext2 file system
# mke2fs test1
(reply 'y' to 'test1 is not a block special device. Proceed anyway?')
then try to loopback mount it
# mkdir test1.d
# mount -o loop test1 test1.d
Then check how it was mounted
# mount | grep test1.d
and you'll see that it was (wrongly!) recognized and mounted as FAT
(probably vfat). Also file(1) will say it's FAT. However,
# mount -o loop -t ext2 test1 test1.d
will also work! I did not go deeply into the layouts of both, but there
is clearly no collision with empty FSes (at least in the sizes I tried).
In practice, it happened to me quite many times that a used FAT
partition was mke2fsed, used (as ext2), and then mounted as FAT without
any errors, by both Linux and Windows, and in almost all cases it looked
empty as FAT. I can also say a very similar scenario is possible with
NTFS reformatted as ext2.

Conclusions:
1. You can't guess the type of a filesystem by looking at its beginning.
You have to try to mount it, and in some cases, think quite a lot before
deciding.
2. If you intend to reformat a used FAT partition as ext2, make sure you
manually empty the first block (e.g. with dd), or you risk having Windows
try to do bad things to it when mounting/checking it (unless it won't
ever see windows again and you mount it only from fstab where you write
its type manually).

 
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Re: Hebrew with mutt

2003-02-17 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
  Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17/02/03 22:14]:
 On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about Hebrew with mutt:
  What Are my option to be able to read and write with mutt client ??
 
 Here is what I use in my ~/.muttrc. Yes, I know some of these options (in
 particular 'charset') may be the wrong options to use, but it works...
 
 # This character set is used on outgoing mail when it contains non-ascii
 # characters.
 set charset=iso-8859-8-i
 
 # use external pager, and don't prompt after it!
 set noprompt_after
 set pager=bidi_pager
 
 Where bidi_pager is the following small script:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 # I use this as mutt's pager
 exec bidiv $@ | less -c
 

This way you lose color. If you use vim, why not

exec bidiv $@ | less.sh +set ft=mail -

(less.sh is in $VIMRUNTIME/macros). I wonder, though, if there is a way
to make mutt read commands from vim (so that one can reply etc. from
within vim).

 (see http://ftp.ivrix.org.il/pub/ivrix/src/cmdline/ for bidiv - or if you
 use Debian, just fetch the bidiv package).
 
 This setup will send Hebrew mail as iso-8859-8-i, and will be able to read
 Hebrew mail in either iso-8859-8-i (or the equivalent Windows encoding) or
 UTF8. To actually *edit* Hebrew mail, you'll need to set up your editor
 accordingly; I use vim, with macros to switch direction and language -
 something like
 
 export VIMINIT='map! ESC[24~ ESC:set invhk invrl^Ma
   map  ESC[24~ :set invhk invrl'
 (replace ESC by the actual ESCAPE character).
 
 
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-17 Thread Uri Itscowits
Hi all,

First I want to thank everybody for the time  effort,
 ( although some responses show, 
some guys did NOT spend enough time reading my problem all the way  {:   )


Since no one gave me a good answer, 
 (except for Muli's, which was my idea to begin with)

I tried to look for the way install-disc does it in rescue mode, BUT
 I never before read Python code.

So I am guessing /usr/lib/anaconda/partitioning.py, is responsible for that.

Anyone cares to check it ?


PS
no need to CC me in person, I'm on the list,  it floods my mailbox.


TIA.


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