Re: eTextBooks (for kids)
In Soviet Russia, book reads YOU. 2009/9/8 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com Hi, In socialistic USSR, school books were not bought each year. Instead pupils had to take them from their's school library for the coming year and return them at end of the year. Each book had worn out level marked on cover of the book and one had to be careful not to wore out the book too much during the year. As a penalty for lost or unusable book, the student had to buy a new book for the library. To draw or mark text in the book was a big no-no. All books had hard-cover and had strong binding for durability. Every student was required to put the book he got into special plastic boundary. If a course required pupils to draw on printed material (like letters in the first form), the pupil had to buy addendum personal notebook he had to draw in. I remember I used books with 15-20 name-year pairs in it. Needless to say, all books were written by a department in the Ministry of Education, and not private author benefited from the authorship. After all there were some good economy tactics in the socialism that IMHO should be applied to capitalism (albeit forcefully)... -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux for an association I work for.
Not to take the wind out of your sails, I would probably advise against switching to Linux for anyone who's not a Linux expert. While it took me some years to reach this conclusion, I now believe that Linux is not a viable choice for anyone who's not an advanced user. My reasons follow: 1. Mainstream desktop environments (KDE, GNOME) have gotten slower and buggier over the years. As I bought faster hardware, KDE and GNOME seemed slower and crashed more often. 2. Linux distributions don't work. Even Ubuntu and other mainstream distributions simply do not work. Package testing is poor, and various programs do not integrate with one another. I often find myself having to fix things manually, usually by digging deep into various scripts/configuration files. Additionally, at least with Ubuntu, upgrades tend to break horribly, requiring a clean reinstallation. 3. Usability as a whole is becoming less viable. Applications (at least with my recent Ubuntu distrubutions) tend to crash often, work more slowly and have less features. Windows suffers from the same problems, only it's not as slow as Linux. On the other hand, I've been using OS X lately, and the thing works. The UI is simple, relatively powerful and does not randomly crash. I'm guessing OS X is not a valid choice for you, due to the prohibitive cost of Mac hardware. Anyway, that's what I think. Good luck, though. Yotam Rubin 2009/2/28 David Harel harel...@gmail.com Greetings, I need your help regarding convincing the vice president of an association to shift from MS XP to Linux. What I did till now was install Ubuntu on two machines that were phasing out and failed to run MS. We got all services we needed including connectivity to external resources. Currently the objection to my initiation is in three items: 1. Make Linux connect to IPVPN (thought it is straight forward). 2. Maintenance cost. 3. Getting his approval for my test (seems like a small man). I need information to try to overturn his stubbornness. -- Regards. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 7657645 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: harel...@ergolight-sw.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux for an association I work for.
Hi, That's funny. So all 8 million Ubuntu users are linux experts? I guess if I visit the Ubuntu forums all I'll see is questions about remote RAID installation and not 'how to' on installing printers. Right? I will be more specific. To be able to use Linux effectively, productively and to minimize time spent on simple maintenance operations, then yes, you have to be a proficient Linux user. It is quite possible for someone who's not a proficient user to use Linux, but he is likely to require considerable support, and he is likely to spend a lot of time making things behave the way he wants them to. Please note that the same problem exists with Windows as well, to a worse degree. To summarize, the average human being in the western world is hampered and hindered by Windows and by Linux, to a lesser degree. How does this make linux viable for experts? If it's slow and buggy, it's that way for everyone, right? Or is there a reason why experts especially like slow, buggy, unusable software? You are correct. There is no direct correlation between my initial statement and the reasons that followed. I will be clearer. Linux can only be used by experts due to the massive amount of details one must be initimately acquainted with in order to properly maintain one's system. The amount of configuration files, different syntaxes, various commands, OS primitives and petty details a user is required to know, is unrealistic for someone who does not study Linux either professionally or in the capacity of a serious hobby. This problem also affects Windows, to a far worse degree. What you're saying is linux sucks. Then you go on to say Mac rules Don't get me wrong, OS X also sucks, only to a lesser extent. Borrowing your plabeic style, I am basically saying this: 1. Windows sucks like a throng of brazillian adult-industry workers 2. Linux sucks like a relatively large tribe of nomadic pipe-blowers 3. OS X sucks like a pack of hungry anteaters Unfortunately, all modern operating systems are seriously flawed. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Aviram Jenik avi...@jenik.com wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2009 07:45:11 Yotam Rubin wrote: I now believe that Linux is not a viable choice for anyone who's not an advanced user. That's funny. So all 8 million Ubuntu users are linux experts? I guess if I visit the Ubuntu forums all I'll see is questions about remote RAID installation and not 'how to' on installing printers. Right? My reasons follow: 1. Mainstream desktop environments (KDE, GNOME) have gotten slower and buggier over the years. As I bought faster hardware, KDE and GNOME seemed slower and crashed more often. 2. Linux distributions don't work. Even Ubuntu and other mainstream distributions simply do not work. Package testing is poor, and various programs do not integrate with one another. I often find myself having to fix things manually, usually by digging deep into various scripts/configuration files. Additionally, at least with Ubuntu, upgrades tend to break horribly, requiring a clean reinstallation. 3. Usability as a whole is becoming less viable. Applications (at least with my recent Ubuntu distrubutions) tend to crash often, work more slowly and have less features. How does this make linux viable for experts? If it's slow and buggy, it's that way for everyone, right? Or is there a reason why experts especially like slow, buggy, unusable software? What you're saying is linux sucks. Then you go on to say Mac rules. Windows suffers from the same problems, only it's not as slow as Linux. Ok, now that is *really* funny. - Aviram ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
A. You're in love with him. 2009/2/5 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il LinkedIn Amichai Rotman requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: Baruch, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Amichai View invitation from Amichai Rotmanhttp://www.linkedin.com/e/hPHQ5pBITDV0c2nfyoJb6QEoY8pMcABe1tM/blk/983015810_2/cBYMcjwRcj0Pe3ALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ *WHY MIGHT CONNECTING WITH AMICHAI ROTMAN BE A GOOD IDEA?* *Have a question? Amichai Rotman's network will probably have an answer* You can use LinkedIn Answers http://www.linkedin.com/e/ash/inv19_ayn/ to distribute your professional questions to Amichai Rotman and your extended network. You can get high-quality answers from experienced professionals. (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Gnu make or replacement?
I've used scons for a small project with a complex build environment. We were very unhappy with the results. I found its design and API quite deficient. Additionally, we've encountered quite a few major bugs that we had to work around. Make, while deficient in its own right, at least works as expected. On Jan 16, 2008 12:59 AM, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 13, 2008 2:58 PM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm helping a client here to start a project from almost scratch. it involves java servelets for Tomcat, building with MAVEN, a few external GPL tarballs that are downloaded from the web, unzipped and compiled (or maybe we'll check them into the CVS) and some glue scripts in bash. Make is the standard, I just wodered how many of you tried rake and other tools that compete against it, and have an opinion... If it's C / C++ code that you will be compiling then scons is bullet proof, you will need to learn how to wear the vest though... Thanks, Ira. -- The cream in your coffee Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
What's the main issue? Is it that it's impossible to work with GDB because it crashes, or is it gdb's command line interface? If the problem is the latter, then have him use a decent frontend. I use emacs's gdbsrc mode, which integrates control of the debugger with your existing code buffers. Some people use external tools, but I prefer to integrate debugging with editing. Yotam, P.S. Have him use emacs22 On 9/1/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, We are at this stage were the lead C++ developer needs to switch over our mostly ACE-based applications from Windows to Linux and needs a GOOD and CONVENIENT debugging environment for multi-threaded applications. He's giving a honest effort to use gdb but so far found it very hard to work with and at least once he managed to get gdb itself to crash. Can anyone recommend a REALLY USEFUL(TM) debugger for Linux, even cheap commercial ones (up to around 100$ per seat)? Please spare me the preaching about gdb being so great - that guy, who haven't touched Linux until last week, is already doing a tremendous effort to convert and needs any tool he can to help him. At least one of the target environments will be RHEL4 (due to customer's demands) but there is a good chance the Debian will be our internal SOE. Thanks, --Amos
Re: ubuntu - linux for smart humen beings only
I don't want to be rude or anything, but your subject was rather ironic: Linux for smart HUMEN beings Eheheh. On 2/11/07, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi have tryed to install ubuntu edgy 6.10 i386 on my pc, and it crashed during install so i did a 'check disk for defects' and got a strange msg: check finished: 0 checksums failed. what is that ? is that a psycometric test to see if i am smart enough to install ubuntu ? (btw, i googled for it, and i saw people thinking this means error, and other thinking this means ok) and at ubuntu.com they say: ubuntu - linux for human beings go figure.
Large asterisk installations
Hey, I'm seriously considering moving our office to an asterisk based PBX. While asterisk seems viable for smaller installation (~50 subscribers), I'm wondering how well is it expected to scale with hundreds of users. I've looked around on the Internet, and all the evidence I've found indicated that asterisk is not catered towards large installations. I'm very eager to switch to an open, and more importantly, technichally superior solution, but my superiors will not allow for it until I convince them asterisk can scale. Pointers/advice is (obviously) welcome. Regards, Yotam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [S-OP]About HSpell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:10:26AM +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: Of course hspell supports piping. Just try. It even has an ispell-like pipe interface for programs, which is used by lyx, geresh, and the little demo script wassist.cs.technion.ac.il/~danken/cgi-bin/hspell.color.cgi That cgi is written in perl. It pipes the user text into another perl script that uses hspell to color misspelled words in red. I can let you peek into the scripts off list, if you want. I have no shred of knowledge in php, but I guess everything here can be translated to it. On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:23:21PM +0200, O.K wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but I was looking for something more elegant as hspell requires file as input. It's not support piping. Or maybe I am wrong ? A better solution would be to wrap hspell's API in PHP. I am not familiar at all with hspell and I don't know how well abstracted its API is, but it's a preferable method to using pipes. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing the use of specific library directories during link and compile
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:07:56AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to set up a build environment for a self-contained Linux system. This is not cross-compiling, but I want the new system to only contain what I brought into it. I also want it to work :-) I'm already compiling everything I need, but now I want to make sure that nothing that belongs to the build environment will be accidentally used by the built programs. When a program does an include, I want to make sure it gets a file from my directories. Same goes for included libraries. Now, I did find -nostdinc and -i for gcc. I'm hoping I'll manage to get them to do what I want for the compile part of the program. What I'm still trying to figure out, however, is whether there is any such thing for the linker. I'm playing with -Y, but it doesn't seem to be 100% what I'm looking for. Does anyone have any idea how to make sure the standard search paths are simply not looked at? Hm. A simple solution would be to strace gcc and grep for any 'forbidden paths'. Should be quite definitive. Anyway, we did the exact same thing in one of our projects. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Volunteer needed: PHP instructor for a school
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:05:45AM +0300, Lior Kaplan wrote: Hi Guys, I was approached to find a volunteer who can teach PHP to high school students in Ramat Gan. I'd be happy to help people who volunteer for this. Perhaps describing the motivation for volunteering is appropriate. Will the instructor be teaching underprivileged, maimed, AIDS stricken and possibly communist Afghan refugees? Seriously now, what's the motivation, aside from PHP being a FOSS SHMOSS language? Any one? I'm sure many have told you this before, but - 'Usted maneja la espada loca de Estteban, amigo.' Regards, Yotam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mbox manipulation utility
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: hi all, Can anyone recommend an mbox manipulation library for me? I need to compare, merge, split, etc. several mbox files, which have some overlap. On a very related note - I have a reasonable coverage of Linux-IL since about 1995. If anyone has anything dating further back, please contact me. Otherwise, unless I manage to put the archives online and people find their wonderful flame from January 1996 missing, things should pretty much be complete. Shachar While tools such as formail, grepmail, etc do exist, a more powerful approach could be taken by using Python: from mailbox import PortableUnixMailbox mbox = PortableUnixMailbox(file(/var/spool/mail/yotam)) messages = [message for message in mbox] ... I don't know of any Python facilities that recognize header structure and filter accordingly, but it should be relatively easy to implement, and the gain is likely to be more signifcant than using a combination of ready made standalone programs, through which complex operations may be harder to carry out. Regards, Yotam Rubin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: A countdown timer
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:01:55AM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi Clan, I am looking for a program (console, KDE) to act like the countdown in Armageddon movie (counts back to a specific day, time). (Hmm... I sincerely you don't have anything specific in mind.) 1) http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1q=countdown+timerbtnG=Google+Search 2) apt-cache search countdown 3) Bake your own. Below is a very basic script to illustrate how easy it is to create your very own device of apocalypse. #!/usr/bin/python import sys import time while ( float(sys.argv[1]) - time.time() = 0): print float(sys.argv[1]) - time.time() ... Regards, Yotam Rubin msg23846/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'per-process' DNS setup?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 03:53:00AM +0200, guy keren wrote: i'm trying to 'fake' DNS settings for a _single_ process on a linux box (i.e. when this process will query for the address of a given host, it will get a reply i set a-priory, while other processes will get the proper repely). i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow enough control to actually override such settings, without changing the settings for the whole box. i've been searching on google, and looking for info in the o'rreily DNS and bind book - to no avail. if anyone has an idea if such a feature is available - i'd be glad for any pointer. it sounds odd for such a feature not to be already available via the default libraries. thanks, It should be relatively trivial to write a wrapper for the resolver functions which will be preloaded for one specific process. See the LD_PRELOAD environment variable, and the assorted dynamic linker functions in order to get started. -- Yotam Rubin msg23782/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alternatives to Mozilla
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 05:39:16PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, guy keren wrote: the fact that something is open-source, doesn't have to mean its a resource hog. and mozilla is a great resource hog, and so is KDE. and unlike various movie playing software - they don't _have_ to be such resource hogs. just that nobody cares enough to make them less 'hoggish'. I beg to differ. Mozilla has to support a lot of things: all the HTML versions (2.0, 3.2, 4.0, 4.01, XHTML ), broken HTML, CSS, images, the XUL portable GUI library, java and Flash applets, JavaScript, many protocols (all versions of HTTP, FTP, gopher, etc), XML and XSL and the other W3C inventions, and possibly other things I forgot. It needs to be bloated if it wishes to support all of those things, and with the advancement of W3C standards, the situation is only getting worse. A rich feature set doesn't necessarily imply bloat. On my 550 MHz 256 MiB RAM machine, I find that mozilla is highly unresponsive and slow. As an example, Opera's feature set isn't significantly smaller than Mozilla's, but it boasts extremely fast rendering speeds. I argue that there is a very loose connection between features and speed. I don't see any valid reason why Mozilla should be sluggish, regardless of features. [...] Regards, Yotam Rubin msg23601/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim question
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:41:09PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'm trying to send to someone an email (domain name: geotours.com) and it returns to me with this message: all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts: it appears that the DNS operator for this domain has installed an invalid MX record with an IP address instead of a domain name on the right hand side Exim seems to be right on this one: [...] However, since the admin of this domain seems to be the typical MCSE guy, how do I tell Exim to send the email and not bounce it back to me? See the allow_mx_to_ip option in the exim configuration. A better solution would be to ask the administrator to fix his DNS configuration. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg23536/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A rebuttal to Arie Skup
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:20:57AM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: http://benyossef.com/answer.html I figured I might as well publish it here since it's published on the Penguin site already. I tried to send it to Ynet and some other places via various channels, wel'll see if anything will come out of it... :-) Gilad. It might also be wise to address his comment about the NSA abandoning development of SELinux, which remains indisputably false[0]. Regards, Yotam Rubin [0]: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/2789.html msg23338/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dynamic DNS
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:13:55PM +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote: You seem to misunderstood me. I configured a fully working system twice now, one with Suse and one with Debian and it works perfectly. The problem is with RedHat 7.3. DHCP failes to update Bind. Other then that both work ok. (ie I get leases and resolving) So, I ask again, any ideas about the unauthorized messages ? With such a generic and non-descriptive error message, how can you possibly expect anyone to know the answer? In order to find the culprit, you should take common debugging measures. Set named's debug level to a high value (See named's manual page for further details), run it through strace and so forth. After you have collected more informative messages, you may forward them to the list. Letting us have a glimpse at your configuration might also be an OK idea. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg23067/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: looking for Linux / Apache / Perl / C / C++/ JSP / SQL experts for a US based Start-Up...any candidates ?
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 01:59:44PM -0400, alonb wrote: Our company is a garage model Start-up located in New York USA, we have developed a prototype of a Linux email management gateway and would like to find excellent developers who believe in our field to take action toward our upcoming success story. At this point of time we can't make any F/T offers, however we can offer an attractive benefits plan based on the team member's contribution. we are looking for dedicated entrepreneurial experts to join our highly professional team. To best handle this process please answer the following basic questions: 1. What is your weekly availability for P/T work (in hours) ? 2. Are you familiar with Linux/Apache/Perl/JSP/C/C++ (server side only) and if so at what level (work / studies / home use / other) ? 3. What is the most convenient time for you to have an introduction call ? 4. Do you Enjoy and experienced on scripting (shell,perl,python, sql) Following are some guidelines which may or may not prove useful when sending job offers to a technology oriented crowd: 1) Please specify a full name in the From: header. People find it dubious when a potential employer identifies himself only using his first name. 2) Trim down the subject. You don't need to specify the job requirements in the header; a subject saying Job Offer should be good enough. 3) Don't phrase the job requirements like cheesy spam. Indicating what is required from the prospective employee in the form of questions sounds foreboding and somewhat ridiculous. 4) Make sure your website is not cluttered with buzzwords and lacking in content. Reading the description of your product, I was only able to get a very vague idea as to the purpose of your work. Since post job offers has become common place on this list, the above guidelines may be useful to other potential employers. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg22841/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Women and Linux
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:42:03PM -0500, Viki Navratilova wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: [...] Now I'm gonna leave that thread be (: So I can pick it back up! :) (in america our smileys read left to right) This thread has been extended beyond its natural life span. It does not contribute anything and promotes certain types of trolling. It would be greatly appreciated if this thread is eliminated without delay, implied or otherwise. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg22107/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 12:12:51AM +0200, Tal Achituv wrote: [...] (does anyone have SuSe 8? whats the deal on that OS?) Why would you use an obtrusively non-free distribution to introduce users into GNU/Linux? It conveys the wrong message and does not preserve the original concept of the community. [...] What people will bring (to my knowledge): [people listed here please confirm, people who should be and aren't - let me know] Yotam Rubin: 3 monitors CD-R*2 media Confirmed. It should be noted that I am not going to attend the party, and if this hardware is desirable, it should be arranged to be picked up from my residence or another geographically accommodating location. -- Yotam Rubin msg21990/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux for the community
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 03:01:59PM +0200, spring wrote: Hello all There is a project called Tapuah ( http://www.tapuah.org.il ) that is aimed at helping introducing the internet to people from a low socioeconomical status, especially in the peripheria . For it's current aims, acheivements and further details see the above link. The idea came up to cooporate with them to promote linux and help spread the use of it, not only for its educational value (which is immense) but also as a means for people to use cheaper machines, and use an OS without having to break copyrights. I've talked to the guys at Tapuah, they are very interested and are ready to provide us with equipment and assistance - computer rooms etc. What we need to provide is volunteering lecturers for lectures at those classes, in the form of the haifux for-newbies lectures maybe, or if anyone wants to form a program and make it happen, you are all most wellcome to. This is a great idea, and I intend to provide assistance. However, I can't help but feeling that this initiative is somewhat premature. OEM's (The vendor for one's computing unit), distribute their computers with Windows preinstalled. Considering we provide the knowledge to use Linux, how will it be installed on their computers? Installation requires a great deal of thinking, because unlike Windows, GNU/Linux is more diverse. There are many different configurations which behave in completely different fashions. Should we teach them how to use KDE? Gnome? Window Maker? fluxbox? The console? Unlike technologically oriented people, who are often self-teaching, novice users will rely exclusively on the knowledge they've been taught in Apple's (Tapuah) classes. Has a curriculum been planned? If not, who will devise it? If we want the teaching to be effective, OEM's *must* prepare computers with Linux preinstalled, in which case massive coordination is required, to match the curriculum to the system configuration. I think these questions need to be addressed before attempting to gather volunteers. [...] Also if anyone is interested in leading a linux course at their erea, great! contact me, or Amutat Tapuah through their site. You may list me as a willing volunteer. Tapuah is a private cometee, but they work also closely with the government (in terms of fonding). Working with them will help promoting linux in many ways: 1.Promote awareness to alternatives to Win* 2.Enlarge the number of Israeli Linux users 3.Help educate people 4.Possibly get fonding for Linux projects - like translations of documents and standard hebrew support 5.Students might get grants if they volunteer to take part on regular basis (something like Perah , but this is not official yet) 6. Quickly attain world domination. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg21799/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help understanding logfile
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 10:57:58PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Help understanding logfile: Hello group. Today i tail -f'ed syslog's log file and saw this: Sep 12 20:03:43 TCL inetd[48]: /usr/sbin/in.identd: exit signal 0xd Sep 12 20:03:44 TCL last message repeated 254 times Sep 12 20:03:44 TCL inetd[48]: auth/tcp server failing (looping), service terminated [snip verbose explanation] Signal 0xd, or decimal 13, is SIGPIPE, broken pipe. This signal can be sent by the system to a process in several scenarios, but here is my guess as to what is happening. The in.identd process gets the request from the remote host, looks up the answer and finally tries to send it back to the machine asking for it. But in the meantime that machine has already closed the connection, so figuratively speaking in.identd's pipe back to the other machine is broken, and in this case (unless the SIGPIPE signal is ignored) the broken-pipe signal is sent by the kernel to the process. Why is the remote machine closing the connection before you answer it? I don't know. Maybe it's a buggy remote client, or maybe there's some problematic firewall set up in the middle. [snip feasible explanation] I tend to believe that the problem is more local. It's not likely for a malicious person or otherwise to consistently pound the user's machine with requests unless the remote party is attempting to DoS it, in which case there are far more effective DoS methods. I believe identd receives SIGPIPE during initialization for some reason. The best approach would be to run inetd through strace -fo inetd-log and examine the output. You should also run tcpdump and search for ident requests, to eliminate the possibility of an attack. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg21772/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help understanding logfile
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 12:06:29AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I added a rule to log connections to port 113 and saw this after connecting and sending it b00: Sep 13 00:03:56 TCL kernel: IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=21357 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=33982 DPT=113 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Sep 13 00:03:56 TCL kernel: IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=21358 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=33982 DPT=113 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0 Er, this looks like your b00 connection. I don't see how that's relevant. We want to rule out *external* intervention, not analyze how identd behaves when you connect to it. You could use your firewall's native logging facilities for that purpose, but a tcpdump port 113 is a much faster way of doing it. (looping), service terminated [snip log] also, the strace i ran showed: Process 15500 attached Process 15520 attached Hm. It is not wise to run commands blindly. The strace command sent its output to inetd-log, if you copied the command to the letter. Examine that log file, and optionally report interesting findings. While you're at it, I suggest you read the manual page for strace and determine how the options -f and -o affect strace's behavior. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg21778/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: /etc/passwd- and google
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 05:53:18PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:47:37PM +0300, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Quoth Yedidyah Bar-David: Hi all, 1. What is the purpose of /etc/*- (I personally have passwd, shadow, group and gshadow)? backups. Where is it documented? As far as I know, it's not documented anywhere. the - files are created by useradd, and useradd alone. Since useradd doesn't use PAM, this backup mechanism can't be used in the nss layer, like it should be. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg21456/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Raanaa Instalation Party
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 06:30:08PM +0300, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: 1. Pepole who are willing and able to help install Linux on other peoples machines. 2. More ideas. Ok, to sum the discussion and resources so far: 1. Assaf Flato - Machine with CDR (Windows ONLY) 2. Amir Tal - Hats/T-Shirts/Condoms witn Linux on 'em 3. Moshe Zadka - A few woodies (Moshe, I prefer space cookies) 4. Moi - birnam.bard.org.il (Deb mirror), a willing right hand, Debian 2.2r7 i386, Debian 2.2r7 SPARC and Debian 3.0 i386 preburned, some network cables Needed: 1. More PREBURNED stuff - Mandrek, RedHate, SoSo, Knoppix 2. Hub/Switch (8 or more ports would be SO nice) 3. Monitors? No idea, depends on the store 4. CDR Media 5. Premade HD? 6. Sex-starved nymphlets? (errr, that's for the AFTER-party) 7. Masking tape (cables, etc), scisors (poking eyes out), stickers (various) - office supplies (not lots) in general. 8. More network cables. Comments? While I do not plan to attend, I am willing to put my meager resources at your disposal. My arsenal of usable hardware contains the following possibly useful items: 1) 1 Phillips IDE CDR. 2) 1 External Yamaha CDR. (I don't currently have a working SCSI adapter) 3) Three monitors. 4) Keyboard and mice. 5) Two unidentified NIC's. 6) Male/Male DB25 cable (Useful for NIC'less machines) 7) 1 6.4 GiB large HDD. (Can't remember which brand) 8) 1 2 GiB large HDD. I'm also willing to provide my remaining CDR media. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg21067/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Eliminating File Limit on Mandrake 8.2
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:16:22PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: ulimit in Mandrake 8.2 limits the file size to 1024*1 bytes for normal users. I'd like it to be removed completely as CD-Rom ISOs and filesystem images of User-mode-linux are larger than that, and it's annoying. However ulimit -S unlimited does nothing, and I could not find where to change it in the configuration files. Regards, Shlomi Fish Perhaps it is enforced by PAM, in which case you should see /etc/security/limits.conf Regards, Yotam Rubin msg20930/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alcatel Pro
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 06:33:14PM +0300, Barak Kaufman wrote: what port 1723 used for ? i dont have any routing for it and i wasnt able to connect to it from outside On Saturday 10 August 2002 17:01, Oleg Kobets wrote: [...] I must seriously caution against using the Alcatal as a NAT device. Your Alcatel device has suffered from a plethora of security problems in the past, and continues to do so now. For example, a simple nmap -O 10.0.0.138 appears to severe my Alcatel Speed Touch Home network connectivity. Should your Alcatel device be externally reachable, you expose yourself to all sorts of potential DoS attacks which would be otherwise harmless. Additionally, you have absolutely no control over the device, substantially reducing flexibility. You also have to rely on Alcatel to provide security fixes and enhancements. The logical thing to do would be to stick to your existing configuration, where you actually have control over the general networking infrastructure. Fiddling with the Alcatel may be cool, but it has little functional value. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg20900/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Key signing party results
Hello, As you may or may not know, a key signing party was held today at the cinemateque. This party involved the identity verification of participants so their keys could be later signed by fellow participants. Although not deprived of a procedural mishap[0], the party was completed with 9 verified identities. Soon after the gathering had terminated, people began to sign each other's keys. As of now, there are 8 keys in this newly formed keyring. I have posted the keyring and other visual aids produced by sig2dot.pl and graphviz at http://yotamr.dyndns.org/keyring . I hope that this keyring will continue to expand. The value of a public keyring, where one may reliably confirm another's identity is not only useful for the present, but possibly for the future as well, when the government would want to explore digital id's and the like. Should there be a large enough keyring, it's possible that government officials might lean towards an open solution, rather than a proprietary one. If anyone wants to hold a key signing party in Beer-Sheva and the vicinity, please let me know. Regards, Yotam Rubin [0]: Everyone except for Nadav Har'El neglected to bring their key fingerprints, which tends to decrease the reliability of the whole process. msg20852/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Southern transportation to the August event
(My apologies for this off-topic request, whose ilk is beginning to spam the list) If anyone from Beer-Sheva and/or the surroundings has an automobile or other non-public forms of transportation which have room for an additional person intends to attend the August event, please let me know. Regards, Yotam Rubin msg20720/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 02:04:08PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: [...] why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp? How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? Cant print from X as the action suppose to be something automatic ( maybe cron ) through shell ( for web site ) You could do the following: Start a new X-server, possibly xvfb. Call mozilla, sleep 30, use imagemagick's import program to obtain a screenshot of the website, use imagemagick's convert program to do some processing on the newly acquired snapshot. It's crude, but it should work. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:51:15PM +0200, Eliran wrote: About the games it's depend about what kind of games... Graphic games such as Quake 1-3 and Unreal works there even better than on win machines, games are available to purchase from locki. Ehem, Loki's dead, has been for quite some time. Apparently there is little demand for Linux games. Regards, Yotam Rubin [...] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall Hacking
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi All I just finished configuring my first firewall server with many goods inside :) and im looking a way to hack in for testing purpose. Without causing a flamewar: s/hack/crack/ All the scanners i tested aginst it could not detect shit, is there a good resource/software for learning how to test/hack firewall ? UCKER-MAG comes straight from the computing elite. It will provide all your hacking needs and perhaps slow you down enough to allow me to whip up some procmail magic. http://yotamr.dyndns.org/UCKER-MAG If you did not find the solution in the first issue, I'm sure the authors can accommodate something. If you want to be treated seriously, I strongly advise against asking questions in the form of: d00d, i want to 0wn a firewall, help me! Regards, Yotam Rubin Cheer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall Hacking
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:09:54PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: TH4 UBER KEWL JAN 1SSU3 1N Y00R F4C3 Tha???!!! Shouldn't it have been TH3 UB3R K3WL J4N 1SSU3 1N Y00R F4C3? No. That particular issue was written over a year ago an exercise. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall Hacking
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:09:54PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: TH4 UBER KEWL JAN 1SSU3 1N Y00R F4C3 Tha???!!! Shouldn't it have been TH3 UB3R K3WL J4N 1SSU3 1N Y00R F4C3? Err, scratch that. Yes. You're right. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Snort Messages
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:18:10AM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
Hi All
Snort is giving me this message every time my primary mail server (exim)
forward a mail to a local one (also exim)
Jun 10 19:45:34 fr snort[858]: [1:654:3] SMTP RCPT TO overflow
[Classification: Attempted Administrator Privilege Gain] [Priority: 1]:
{TCP} 194.90.15.2:1417 - 194.90.15.162:25
Not off-hand, but fortunately, snort maintains logs containing the
suspicious packets. Just look at the offending packet and compare it
to the snort rule.
Regards, Yotam Rubin
Any idea whats its all about ?
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Re: OO with apt-get ?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 01:08:08PM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: Is there a way to install OpenOffice with apt-get ??? Yes, but only OO without BiDi support, and I assume that's not what you want. Can the IGLU administrators make OO apt-gettable please? Regards, Yotam Rubin Eli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNU/Linux only, !linux ?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 06:08:39PM +0300, Eliran wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 08:26:22PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Eliran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Variants of the GNU operating system, which use the kernel Linux, are now widely used; though these systems are often referred to as ``Linux'', they are more accurately called GNU/Linux systems. - http://www.gnu.org With all the credit due to GNU tools used in development of Linux and on Linux, don't forget that there is a GNU OS. It is called Hurd. It is not really the OS, it is the kernel they working on is called Hurd. fix me if I'm wrong. No. The HURD microkernel is the mach. The additional servers (File systems, etc) form the complete GNU/HURD operating system. Regards, Yotam Rubin -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it aint't broken it hasn't got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- a href=http://eg-site.tripod.com;Eliran/a The kind of charity you can force out of people nourishes about as much as the kind of love you can buy --- and spreads even nastier diseases. -- Eric S. Raymond = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OO patches license
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 09:04:11PM +0300, Barak Kaufman wrote: Mati what is the official license for ibm's patches ? sorry if i ask and its written in the patches themselves :) i got only the debs. Several licenses, including the LGPL, ICU and Sun Industry Standards Source License Version. Some of the code is triply licensed and some is licensed under a single license. I'd better add these copyrights to the binary packages. Regards, Yotam Rubin P.S.: Due to the ever-deteriorating network infrastructure in my school, this will be my permanent address from now. -- Barak Kaufman Customer Support Manager Oz-Tech Information Systems To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 03:54:02PM +0300, Itai Arad wrote: How did you manage to convert the deb to rpm? I tried alien, but it get the following message: alien -f bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb Control file couldn't be read! at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Alien/Package/Deb.pm line 161. I am using Mandrake 8.2, and I got this message both from the alien package that comes with the system and from the latest version that I've installed by myself (version 8.07). where did I go wrong? What's the output of md5sum bidi-openoffice.org_1.0.0-4_i386.deb? I suspect a corrupt package. Regards, Yotam Rubin thanks, = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 07:37:12PM +0300, Itai Arad wrote: Well I get the control file. So? Maybe there's something wrong in LM8.2 ? People say it is trivial to convert deb==rpm. So why can't anyone who done that upload the rpm to iglu.org.il ? it would be so much easier than fighting against LM8.2 alien ... I fully agree. If you want the RPM, you may contact me via private email and I will provide it, that is, unless someone puts the RPM's on iglu.org. As for your alien problem, it requires more intimate debugging. Regards, Yotam Rubin Itai. The control file I got: control --- Package: bidi-openoffice.org Version: 1.0.0-4 Section: contrib/editors Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libgcc1 (= 1:3.0.3-1), libstdc++3 (= 1:3.0.3-1), libstlport4.5gcc3, libxaw7 ( 4.1.0), xlibs ( 4.1.0) Conflicts: openoffice, openoffice.org Installed-Size: 161960 Maintainer: Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: openoffice.org Description: high-quality office suite OpenOffice is a complete modern office suite, licensed under the GPL, with features comparable to Microsoft(R) Office features. . Do not submit bugs against the bidi-openoffice.org unless you are absolutely it can be reproduced in the original (openoffice.org) package. If you intend to submit bugs, use the standard Debian BTS interface via [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Do no use openoffice.org Issuezilla unless you are sure it is not a problem w ith the Debian packaging (there are still quite a few!) . For latest news on Openoffice in Debian, see http://www.linux-debian.de/openoffice/. . This particular build features BiDi support, enabling Arabic and Hebrew users to properly write text from right to left. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pretty printing source code
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:56:12PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a way to pretty print some source code into a post script file. Possible options: 1. use emacs' 'ps-print-buffer', which prints directly to the printer. Can I get it to print to a ps file instead? 2. a LaTeX package? Lyx support? groff? 3. source - HTML - postscript? Anything else? a2ps, it's extremely versatile and can pretty print most common languages. -- Yotam Rubin -- Mersday 27 Thrimidge 7466 http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux forums in Israerl [was: Re: Nana Linux forum]
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 01:37:28PM +0200, Dvir Volk wrote: [big snip] It's generally considered rude to send Outlook specific files (winmail.dat) to a Linux list, or almost any other public mailing list, especially when its ~5 times larger than the actual message. Perhaps listar should be configured to block these sinister buggers. -- Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice with BiDi support.
Greetings, I have successfully compiled OO with IBM's BiDi patches. A couple of screenshots are available at http://212.179.208.62/oo-snap. While I have not extensively tested it, BiDi seems well supported. If a bandwidth oriented person is willing to host the packages, I'll create RPM's[0] for OO and its dependencies. Regards, Yotam Rubin [0]: Binary packages are currently .deb's. The diff used to create the package is available upon demand. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:54:50AM +0300, guy keren wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002, Yotam Rubin wrote: I have successfully compiled OO with IBM's BiDi patches. A couple of screenshots are available at http://212.179.208.62/oo-snap. While I have not extensively tested it, BiDi seems well supported. If a bandwidth oriented person is willing to host the packages, I'll create RPM's[0] for OO and its dependencies. how large are the files? the space on iglu went a bit down lately, but there might still be enough space for them (there's a little less then 2GB free on the ftp mirror's disk, and we'd like to keep some free to allow for 'natural growth' of updates of various mirrors). The binary package is 59 MiB large, so the required disk space is roughly 118 MiB, for both the RPM and the .deb. also, there's the question of which distributions these binaries could run on. did you compile them on an older distribution, or a very current one? what libraries versions is the binary linked against? we might be able to determine then which distros it might be able to run on - we better place them in a directory that reflects this issue. OpenOffice was compiled on a Debian unstable machine, but it should equally run on woody and recent distributions. I am unable to verify, but I'm pretty sure it runs on RH 7.0 and later. Dependencies for OO follow: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4) libgcc1 (= 1:3.0.3-1) libstdc++3 (= 1:3.0.3-1) libstlport4.5gcc3 -- This package also has to be converted to an RPM. libxaw7 ( 4.1.0) xlibs ( 4.1.0) Regards, Yotam Rubin -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 05:41:12PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ok, file is nearly there (still D/L, but I am hoping it will arrive real soon). http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/OpenOffice/ There should be two files there, both debs at the momen (that's all Yotam managed to make in the mean while). I will defenitely test it tonight. One of the files has not finished D/L as of the writing of this email. I have to go now, but I believe that it will finish D/L by the time you get to D/L it yourself (98% at the moment). Producing the RPM is a trivial task, simply use alien. I am willing to do it myself on iglu.org.il, but it's only a couple of commands. If someone wants to create an SRPM, that would be ideal; I do not intend to create one. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debs for OpenOffice, take #2.
Greetings, I was a little rash in releasing the debs too quickly. I have just finished creating the second revision of the package which includes a document about BiDi in OO from IBM. Hopefully it will be uploaded as soon as I get Mati's approval to include the document in the package. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bidi updates for OpenOffice word processor Rel 641D
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:54:54PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm willing to do it, but I will only have the HW to do it in a few days (buying a new computer). Plus - I will be compiling on Debian, and I'm not sure how adapt Debian is at compiling RPMs. If anyone else with shorter timelines wants to volunteer, please do. Shachar, Yotam: 1. try using 'rpm' (a package available on debian). Note that I have no idea if it actually works ;-) 2. maybe try building a tarball ? I figure that a tarball will be much better than an rpm with no bidi support ;-) I am retrieving the OO source Debian package as we correspond. I've already configured a chroot fs for the build. All I need now is the patch. Regards, Yotam Rubin Thanks -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3 Debian Build
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 02:23:23PM +0300, Sparx wrote: Hello list. I decided to build the KDE3 packages for debian myself (since i dont expect an official build in the near future). I downloaded the source archoves (*.tar.bz2) from KDE3 official mirror, unpacked them and tried to dpkg-deb -b but obviously dpkg-deb expects a different format than the one that KDE3 got its archives in (for example DEBIAN directory and not debian like the archive got, and various control file differences) dpkg-deb --build is not the way to create a binary package from a source package. Additionally, The KDE 3.0 source tree does not include the required files for producing Debian binary packages. FYI, man dpkg-buildpackage should provide the information you seek. i am using the latest dpkg-deb (unstable debian) anyone got ideas ? suggestions ? already compiled deb's of kde 3 ? Sifting through the debian-kde archives, I found the following URL: http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian I haven't tested it, but the packages are rumored to work. For further details, consult http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unknown Ports
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 12:27:37PM +0300, Eliran wrote: [big snip] No, xfs is the X *font* server. So how do I block this the X port or just not LISTENing ? Essentially, you invoke X with -nolisten tcp. On my Debian system, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc is used by the startx script to launch the the server. In additional to standard arguments, it should have -nolisten tcp in there. -- Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DreamWorks Switched to Linux !
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:37:25AM +0300, Amir Tal wrote:
hi list,
[...]
translated post at Whatsup : http://www.whatsup.org.il/article.php?sid=170
item at slashdot :
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/24/2226241mode=threadtid=106
so, linux IS ready also for the desktop ??
I fail to see the connection. DreamWorks is a company with _extremely_
specialized needs. They do not qualify as your average users.
I have attached a short procmail recipe for your perusal. It moves any
messages pertaining to whatsup to their own file and optionally sends a
polite Please don't spam me notice. This wasn't tested, so it probably
doesn't work.
Regards, Yotam Rubin
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Re: Slightly OT: yellow pages blocks our browsers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 02:29:48PM +0300, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:02:13AM +0300, Herouth Maoz wrote: [...] I intend to sent the complaint not just to YP themselves, but also to some newspapers. I don't know, Captain Internet, y-net, whatever. FWIW, I intend to protest against this braindead restriction, do you have a valid contact address? If only you had yellowpages access, you could search for their phone number... They claim they can be reached on [EMAIL PROTECTED], or by phone 03-753. Since e-mail does not appear to work, I've contacted them via the phone. The site representative was unable to provide decent reasons as to why non-Netscape browsers are restricted from the site. She told me something like: Because that's how it works. She gave me the templated, I'll pass it on response. Perhaps if enough people call, it'll persuade them to remove the restriction. Regards, Yotam Rubin P.S.: Fellas, RTFH (Headers), do not CC me on list replies. It clogs up my spool and serves no useful purpose. Good luck. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: yellow pages blocks our browsers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:28:57PM +0300, mulix wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:16:32PM +0300, Yotam Rubin wrote: P.S.: Fellas, RTFH (Headers), do not CC me on list replies. It clogs up my spool and serves no useful purpose. man procmailex | col -b | vi - /duplicates I already have a relevant procmail rule in place. However, procmail does not describe how to compensate for lost bandwidth. -- The ill-formed Orange Fails to satisfy the eye: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ Segmentation fault. http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: yellow pages blocks our browsers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:42:44PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002, mulix wrote about Re: Slightly OT: yellow pages blocks our browsers: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:16:32PM +0300, Yotam Rubin wrote: P.S.: Fellas, RTFH (Headers), do not CC me on list replies. It clogs up my spool and serves no useful purpose. man procmailex | col -b | vi - /duplicates Should probably be man procmailex | col -b | vi - +/duplicates but this - thing will probably only work on VIM... Don't try this on a Solaris vi, for example ;) A simpler command would be: man procmailex | less +/duplicates Actually, the most efficient command would be (Typed literally, interpreting escape characters): man procmailex\n /duplicate The only downside is that the above is no longer a catchy one liner. Regards, Yotam Rubin -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Apr 4 2002, 22 Nisan 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Ways to Relieve Stress #10: Make up a http://nadav.harel.org.il |language and ask people for directions. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: yellow pages blocks our browsers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:02:13AM +0300, Herouth Maoz wrote: [...] I intend to sent the complaint not just to YP themselves, but also to some newspapers. I don't know, Captain Internet, y-net, whatever. FWIW, I intend to protest against this braindead restriction, do you have a valid contact address? Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CrossOver Office
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:54:10AM +0200, Amir Tal wrote: Hi all, We were donated with those news a few hours ago. You might find this VERY interesting ! I, for once, see this as the final reason to dump windows all together. http://whatsup.sweethome.co.il/article.php?sid=116 A note for future postings. It is generally impolite to post a URL without providing the slightest information as to what it contains. Next time, provide a short blurb. Check this out, it's interesting! or The ultimate reason for purging Microsoft Windows has a slightly spammish nature, in the sense that you don't actually provide information but rather unobjective incentives for examining the URL. Regards, Yotam Rubin -- Amir Tal, System Administrator Whatsup - Linux related news And support - in hebrew ! icq : 15748705 http://www.whatsup.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a debian-newbie question.
On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 10:00:48AM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: hi i'm looking for the base package for the latest debian (for arm) Woody is not the latest Debian, as it has not been released yet. I couldn't find a parallel to ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-arm/current/base2_2.tgz ( i.e. there is no base*tgz under ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-arm/current ) Woody does not use a base fs archive. Bootstrapping of a Debian system is achieved via the debootsrap program. You need that if you want to create a Woody system from scratch. Regards, Yotam Rubin thanks erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tip: Upgrading the SSH Daemon
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:49:36AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Sagi Bashari and I came up with a way to upgrade SSH without a need for a physical access to the computer. I sucessfully managed to upgrade SSH this way. I'd like to share it here. What you do is compile and install another SSH version, and run sshd on a different port (say 29). Then, you login through this second ssh daemon, and compile and install ssh in the original directory. Afterwards, you kill the old ssh instance, and invoke the new one. After that you can kill the SSH daemon that ran on port 29. That's not necessary. sshd is forked for every incoming connection. It is possible to connect to ssh, shut down the listening process and the session will remain unharmed. Then you would go about installing sshd as normal,. there's no reason to run two listening sshd's concurrently. Regards, Yotam Rubin Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups... Wait a second - is n a natural number? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tip: Upgrading the SSH Daemon
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:33:39PM +0200, guy keren wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: Don't CC me, I read all the lists I'm subscribed to. That's not necessary. sshd is forked for every incoming connection. It is possible to connect to ssh, shut down the listening process and the session will remain unharmed. Then you would go about installing sshd as normal,. there's no reason to run two listening sshd's concurrently. that is necessary, since if your active connection(s) die (e.g. the box gets rebooted due to power outage, or something similar) during the process - you're _possibly_ locked out, in case your new install isn't done properly. Consider the following: (It is presumed that you're using system's native packaging system to do the update ) 1) You fetch the source package and the new upstream code. 2) You add the new upstream code to the source and generate the package. 3) You install the package. (note that during this entire procedure, ssh is still running and listening) 4) You invoke '/etc/init.d/ssh restart' (Or where ever ssh's wrapper script is located) The only way this can leave your machine without an ssh process is if the init script exits after stopping ssh. The above procedure is as risky as doing /etc/init.d/ssh remotely. shlomi's doing things the same way. you and nadav are doing things the careless way. you'll get there faster if it works, but shlomi has a smaller 'Tochelet' (how's that called in english), if you account for both successfull and unsuccesfull installations. The probability that the above procedure will fail is identical to the probability that an evil lepracaun will consume your file system, i.e., not extremely likely. Best regards, Yotam Rubin the good and carefull remote (sometimes also local) sysadmin will use shlomi's method for this single reason. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Care and Feeding of Stupids (was: Re: stupid me)
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:36:45AM +0200, Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote: [ snipped discussion ] Some of them might do it eventually, but others might prefer to get other jobs where they'll at least do something useful - e.g., instead of writing code for a site that aims to cheat in schools, they might go and become teachers! Oh comeon, we're an information source as much as a school library is, whoever copies a paper from us and sends it as is - is stupid. Teachers dont have any ambitions towards trying to change ANYTHING in the messed up education system -- We do ! How is that done, exactly? By providing regurgitated assignments for students who would rather deceive than to actually learn something? Your disgustingly disrespectful attitude towards teachers sets the tone of your site, which aims at finding the easiest way to obtain good grades; yes, you're a great social reformer. It is such Hutzpa to claim that your site is more valuable to the education system than teachers are. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Educational conformity
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:23:32AM +0200, Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote: Hey, Don't CC me when replying to the list. Receiving several copies of your cynical slabber is hazardous to my health. On Saturday 29 December 2001 02:10, Yotam Rubin wrote: How is that done, exactly? By providing regurgitated assignments for students who would rather deceive than to actually learn something? Your disgustingly disrespectful attitude towards teachers sets the tone of your site, which aims at finding the easiest way to obtain good grades; yes, you're a great social reformer. It is such Hutzpa to claim that your site is more valuable to the education system than teachers are. Look at it in any way you want -- the current education system simply sucks, no better word to put it as. most our teachers, the ones who raise the next generation are of the lowest level available, and there is no renewal of the learned issues whatsoever. And your site strives at improving Israel's education system, how? Spare me the We're challenging contemporary teaching methodologies drivel, I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand that's populistic rhetoric. At least concede that your site is conforming to the masses of students who wish to take the easy route, it has absolutely _NOTHING_ to do with the supposed low quality of Israeli teachers. As a side-note, Israel's teachers are not of the lowest level available, that's another arrogant, hostile, wildly unbased and popular claim. Your site doesn't contain any constructive criticism about Israel's education system, nor does it describe how to resolve problems. Displaying your site as a righteous guardian of education and thinking is not only an utter lie, it's loathly arrogant. Your site exploits a very simple need, which exists independently of the education system. Let's examine your banner. It contains three sentences: 1) Remember more 2) Better grades 3) Study faster (The banner also depicts several stacks of books crossed by a line) You say that you wish to improve the education system, but doesn't all of the above reek of conformance to the education system? i.e., do what you're told to with minimal effort. If anything, your site is a pillar of dangerous compliance. Take your fantasies about making a difference elsewhere. Dont forget the access is free for teachers too and its easy for them to compare papers. That's so kind of you; you're such a valuable contribution to the Israeli mind pool. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freecell Solver is (finally) in the Debian Pool
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:58:22AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: Now I think I'll try to put into Mandrake Cooker and see how long it will take in comparison to Debian... Regards, Shlomi Fish Probably less. Debian are well known for their reluctance to add new code, and their long acceptance cycle. I think it is regarded as a good thing. It is? Addition of new code is generally subject to the whims of developers. Many (most?) are not reluctant to add new code. Regards, Yotam Rubin Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.linux.org.il/ rants
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 09:42:48AM +0200, mulix wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Actually, I'm going over BugTraq daily anyways. What system is Iglu running anyway? RedHat? redhat 6.2. that would mean the initial update to bring it up to date will be rather massive, unless someone's been taking care of it in the meantime? Once crucially important update is ssh, whose version on iglu.org.il appears to be vulnerable to the CRC compensation bug, which may grant arbitrary access to attackers. You can try and convert that Redhat box to Debian, which will ease the strain of constantly monitoring updates and allow trivial upgradability. If I can assist you in any way, please tell me. Regards, Yotam Rubin -- mulix http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maintaining http://www.linux.org.il/
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:00:36PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote about Re: http://www.linux.org.il/ rants: One crucially important update is ssh, whose version on iglu.org.il appears to be vulnerable to the CRC compensation bug, which may grant arbitrary access to attackers. You can try and convert that Redhat box to Debian, which will ease the strain of constantly monitoring updates and allow trivial upgradability. If I can assist you in any way, please tell me. Right. If I remember correctly, openSSH 2.1.1 *was* vulnerable :( There's no need to upgrade to debian for this... At least there's a consensus that converting to Debian is considered an upgrade :) The new openSSH is in the updates directory for probably over 8 months... please check... SSH scans have increased in frequency, and I have already encountered several machines which were compromised vis ssh. It would be wise to perform an extensive audit of the server. I reiterate, if assistance is required in any of the aforementioned tasks, tell me. Regards, Yotam Rubin -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Dec 23 2001, 8 Tevet 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |If I am not for myself, who will be for http://nadav.harel.org.il |me? If I am only for myself, who am I? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.linux.org.il/ rants
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:53:33PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not arguingn against this - I don't have experience with it. I only objected to ssh on the IGLU server is out of date - you must switch to Debian statement. That's an oversimplification of what I wrote. I merely contended that Debian would ease the strain of security updates. ssh was given as an entirely independent instance. What I mean is: 1) Debian is generally easier to maintain. 2) Entirely detached from point #1, ssh requires an upgrade. -- Yotam Rubin Disclaimer: I am a Red Hat user but hopefully not a zealot. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian woody has Mozilla 0.9.5
On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:21:24AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Don't u mean 0.9.6? it's out since 2 days now (0.9.6 I mean) Give the maintainer some time. Besides, a package can't enter testing following two days of its initial upload to unstable. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Friday 23 November 2001 01:08 am, you wrote: In case there are other Debian users who still did not saw it, Debian woody (testing) now has Mozilla 0.9.5. This holds for the i386 version. Not sure what is going on for all the other platforms that Debian is, at least partly, ported to. And yes, as far as I know MDK/RH/other distros have a reasonable BiDi enabled Mozilla version for quite some time now. -- Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:02:25AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: Hi, but don't you also have to use 64bit file position variables ? I always thought the 2G limit was due to the 32bit integer variable. What is the solution to this problem ? Yes, the size of the offset variable is increased to 64 bits, this is done transparently. When _FILE_OFFSET_BITS is set to 64, your regular file handling interface is replaced with the 64 bit counterpart; e.g., a call to fseeko() is really a call for fseeko64(). The old interface becomes a reference to the new one. As you can see in /usr/include/stdio.h, fseeko64() accepts an __off64_t variable as its offset value, whose size is 64 bits. Hope This Helps, Yotam Rubin Schlomo On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. Yup. Recompiled my 2-gig-file-creation test proggie with these defines - and it works like charm. I'm off to recompile Samba. Thanks!!! :-) ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: Hi everyone. I must have missed something: SuSE Linux 7.0 Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for it to work). I didn't find scratch on linuxdoc.org... Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. Regards, Yotam Rubin If the former is correct, where is the patch to recent 2.4.9+ kernels? If the latter, what do I do about samba (and binutils...) Is it something I missed altogether? FM's to RT would be wonderful. Thanks!!! ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:35:26AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: That's what I mean. If you don't use 64bit variables you can't use the long file stuff because then you would try to use 32bit variables in 64bit functions. Or do the flags (__*) also change the internal type of longint ? It's all described in my previous message. The aforementioned flags change the file handling interface, so fseeko for example is passed with a 64 bit offset in a transparent manner. The user doesn't have to know anything about the change. When I call fseek(somefile, 0xfff023, SEEK_SET) using the new interface, the offset argument is 64 bits in size, not 32 bits. Obviously, this is fully backwards compatible, since 64 bits may contain 32 bits. Regards, Yotam Rubin Schlomo On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:02:25AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: Hi, but don't you also have to use 64bit file position variables ? I always thought the 2G limit was due to the 32bit integer variable. What is the solution to this problem ? Yes, the size of the offset variable is increased to 64 bits, this is done transparently. When _FILE_OFFSET_BITS is set to 64, your regular file handling interface is replaced with the 64 bit counterpart; e.g., a call to fseeko() is really a call for fseeko64(). The old interface becomes a reference to the new one. As you can see in /usr/include/stdio.h, fseeko64() accepts an __off64_t variable as its offset value, whose size is 64 bits. Hope This Helps, Yotam Rubin Schlomo On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. Yup. Recompiled my 2-gig-file-creation test proggie with these defines - and it works like charm. I'm off to recompile Samba. Thanks!!! :-) ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: Hi everyone. I must have missed something: SuSE Linux 7.0 Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for it to work). I didn't find scratch on linuxdoc.org... Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. Regards, Yotam Rubin If the former is correct, where is the patch to recent 2.4.9+ kernels? If the latter, what do I do about samba (and binutils...) Is it something I missed altogether? FM's to RT would be wonderful. Thanks!!! ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:41:54PM +0200, guy keren wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:35:26AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: That's what I mean. If you don't use 64bit variables you can't use the long file stuff because then you would try to use 32bit variables in 64bit functions. Or do the flags(__*) also change the internal type of longint ? It's all described in my previous message. The aforementioned flags change the file handling interface, so fseeko for example is passed with a 64 bit offset in a transparent manner. The user doesn't have to know anything about the change. When I call fseek(somefile, 0xfff023, SEEK_SET) using the new interface, the offset argument is 64 bits in size, not 32 bits. Obviously, this is fully backwards compatible, since 64 bits may contain 32 bits. i think shlomo was refering to the fact that if you copy an off_t into an int or a long, and you try to use this '64-bit-hack' - then you'll get overflows and a non-working code. only if the code uses off_t _all over_ - will this trick work. if anywhere in the code you have: long offset = ftell(fd); Yes. This is a very non-portable way of doing things. One should never assume anything about the underlying data types, as it leads to non-portable code. -- Yotam Rubin P.S.: Please do not CC me when writing to the list. I am subscribed to all the mailing lists I post to. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: Hi everyone. I must have missed something: SuSE Linux 7.0 Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for it to work). I didn't find scratch on linuxdoc.org... Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. Regards, Yotam Rubin If the former is correct, where is the patch to recent 2.4.9+ kernels? If the latter, what do I do about samba (and binutils...) Is it something I missed altogether? FM's to RT would be wonderful. Thanks!!! ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prepare for the attack (Re: nobie questions(type of the filesystem))
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 12:30:17PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: Now we have to prepare for the inevitable Clueless Newbie Whine about the cruel and cold-hearted oldtimers, who refuse to fire their precious neurons and answer seriously the newbie's question. Flamebait. -- Yotam Rubin msg15172/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: experimental pptp-mulix rpms
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:07:47PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi My second attempt of packaging mulix-pptp This is pptp-1.0.3 patched with Mulix's patch. I also added some (re)connection scripts from Haim Gelfenbeyn . Note that this package writes to /etc/ppp/ip-up.local and /etc/ppp/ip-down.local , which are generally left for users to customize, and are not to be used by system scripts. Those packages are yet untested. Please let me know about any problems with the packaaging. They were compiled for Mandrake 8.1 . I tend to believe that they will work for other distros with glibc 2.2 and rpm 4.0, but I'm not sure. Anyway, rebuilding the SRPM is probably possible as well. http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/Packages/Enhance/pptp-1.0.3-2haifux.i586.rpm http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/Packages/Enhance/Sources/pptp-1.0.3-2haifux.src.rpm Just a question, is there any reason why the modified pptp can't be merged with the upstream pptp? It'll be a whole a lot cleaner. Regards, Yotam Rubin Enjoy -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vi/vim/gvim question
Try a2ps, it supports pretty printing for many languages, including C. On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 11:31:26AM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: Hi In vim I get my C program colored, but it prints it mono color. how can i print it in colors ? regards erez. -- This message is for the designated recipient only, and will self destruct in 5 seconds, Please Duck beforehand. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port 515
Recent worms have been known to hit port 515, there's an vulnerability in lprng which enables an attacker to execute arbitrary code. I assume these packets are the result of the recent worms. On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 10:13:01PM +0300, Cedar Cox wrote: What is one to think of this? These random packets have hit my firewall on port 515 recently.. comments? -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -- File: log.txt Jun 26 22:01:20 Packet log: PROTO=6 64.123.230.249:58963 L=60 S=0x00 I=18619 F=0x4000 T=47 SYN (#23) Jun 26 22:01:22 Packet log: PROTO=6 64.123.230.249:58963 L=60 S=0x00 I=18955 F=0x4000 T=47 SYN (#23) Jun 26 22:01:28 Packet log: PROTO=6 64.123.230.249:58963 L=60 S=0x00 I=19617 F=0x4000 T=47 SYN (#23) Jun 26 22:52:15 Packet log: PROTO=6 213.113.152.232:4902 L=60 S=0x00 I=20130 F=0x4000 T=34 SYN (#23) Jun 26 22:52:18 Packet log: PROTO=6 213.113.152.232:4902 L=60 S=0x00 I=21423 F=0x4000 T=34 SYN (#23) Jun 29 09:42:41 Packet log: PROTO=6 194.3.198.211:1857 L=60 S=0x00 I=9035 F=0x4000 T=46 SYN (#25) Jun 29 09:42:44 Packet log: PROTO=6 194.3.198.211:1857 L=60 S=0x00 I=9228 F=0x4000 T=46 SYN (#25) Jun 30 12:40:09 Packet log: PROTO=6 210.51.0.18:3582 L=60 S=0x00 I=54279 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#26) Jun 30 12:40:12 Packet log: PROTO=6 210.51.0.18:3582 L=60 S=0x00 I=55581 F=0x4000 T=44 SYN (#26) Jun 30 21:27:18 Packet log: PROTO=6 209.155.224.20:3715 L=60 S=0x00 I=24436 F=0x4000 T=42 SYN (#26) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delphi for Linux
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Re: samba 2.2 RPM
Just a little note regarding swat, you shouldn't use it unless you wrap it with ssl as it transmits passwords in plaintext. On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:10:52AM +0200, Eran Levy wrote: Hi, did you save the conf files (smb.conf, etc.)? did you check the inetd.conf? because when you are compiling the new samba it imports a new swat line to the /etc/inetd.conf file. Check if samba knows where your swat file is. At 19:36 31/05/01 -0500, you wrote: I Had a similiar problem upgrading so I removed the old samba rpm's with rpm -e samba samba-swat this will remove the samba swat and amba packages. Swat is dependent on samba so you have to remove them both or do a --force on the new samba rpm but I don't suggest it, yet. I haven't tried it. After I've installed samba I get a server error 400 when trying to connect to swat. Something about chdir failed. feadon Regards, Eran Levy. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebSite: http://come.to/liloboot = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping
ping does not natively make those 'deductions', be it is easy to write a wrapper that does that for you. Something like: case `ping -qc 5 $1` in *'100% packet loss'*) echo Target host $1 does not respond to ICMP echo requests. ;; *) echo Target host $1 responds to ICMP echo requests. ;; esac On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:48:14PM -0700!@?#?%?, Noam Meltzer wrote: Hi! I know that on Solaris the output of ping is host is alive or service not avaiable (or something like that) i was wandering how i can achieve such answer in linux. noam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall program
Hello, Port attack? What exactly are you referring to, portscans? Portsentry can deny on the fly hosts which portscan you. I am generally inclined not to use portsentry, as port scans can easily be spoofed and thus making a DoS attack against your host very very feasible. Additional arguments follow: * Snort has a port scan detection plugin, which suffices my needs. * I normally do not care when people port scan me. The majority of break-in attempts do not employ a full portscan prior to launching the attack but rather focus on a single service. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:37:29PM +0200, Eran Levy wrote: Hi, Is there any program that detects port attack and then running IPchains command to DENY/REJECT? I need a simple program. Regards, Eran Levy. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebSite: http://come.to/liloboot = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux meeting in jerusalem
I have three unused (working) monitors here; feel free to come and get them. One hitch: I live in the south, which relatively far from the other portions of Israel. I will you give the monitors provided that you find someone to pick them up. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:28:50PM +0300, Ely Levy wrote: I dont' remember if I already asked but we also in a serious lack or monitor if anyone can help Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 23 May 2001, Ely Levy wrote: | one mroe thing about the linux meeting | does anyone have a car and comming from haifa? | a lot of people asked for a ride | ta also | | | Ely Levy | System group | Hebrew University | Jerusalem Israel | | | | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
Yes. I know that, that's why I called them. I already e-mailed them two days ago regarding this problem. I contacted them today and I was told the following: Our team is working on the problem. BTW, can you please not 'CC:' me when sending list-wide messages? Yotam Rubin. On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:38:27AM +0200, Eran Levy wrote: They have DNS problems. If you are trying to reverse IP to name and its working and name to IP and its not working they have problems with their name to IP zone files. Tell them to fix it and give them a proof that they have a problem. send them email with the problem with the reply tthat you are getting from 'host' when you're trying to reverse name to IP and wait to get answer from him. -- The reply in my machine: [red@lilo]$ host 62.0.148.80 80.148.0.62.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il [red@lilo]$ host ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il has address 62.0.148.80 --- At 08:48 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il: Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il. I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have problems with that site can do that as well. I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem. The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it. It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing to do with it: 'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11 Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net Address: 212.179.240.11 linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again' Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past? I'll call them again today. Regards, Yotam Rubin Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Eran Levy. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebSite: http://come.to/liloboot = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 04:23:03PM +0300, Yaron Zabary wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: Currently it does pass the test. I didn't tried before. I spoke to their support as well. It does work now because of their support intervention. BTW: when speaking to their `private' user support you might want to ask the supporter to actually go to their dial-up machine and dial from it using the bezeq number that you are using to dial for their pop center. Otherwise he might use his machine, and his machine might be connected to the Internet differently from your machine. Does the fact the other people have reported 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection meaningful? I mean, can't it be due to the remote site has reached max connections? Perhaps they should try again later? This is from ftp.tau.ac.il: # uptime 4:21pm up 18 day(s), 1:36, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 # ftpwho Service class users: - 0 users (no maximum) Service class tau: - 0 users ( 50 maximum) Service class iiucc: - 0 users ( 50 maximum) Service class israel: - 0 users ( 20 maximum) Service class world: - 0 users ( 20 maximum) As you can see the machine is not very loaded. We (TAU) were getting these Bezeq Int users' complaints for many months and always sent the users to their support. I am not sure what is taking them so much time to fix this problem. Funny, the support guy claims to have never heard about the problem; He believed that TAU banned all of bezeqint, it took me a while to convince him otherwise. If one really wishes to resolve this matter, then one should probably call their support department and threaten the cancel one's subscription if they do not solve the issue within a reasonable amount of time. Regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il: Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il. I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have problems with that site can do that as well. I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem. The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it. It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing to do with it: 'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11 Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net Address: 212.179.240.11 linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again' Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past? I'll call them again today. Regards, Yotam Rubin Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux in the goverment
Just out of curiosity, do you know of a single language that is actually bidi? As far as I know, bi-directional languages do not exist. All countries are ready for Linux, most simply don't know it yet. - Yotam Rubin. On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 09:43:57PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ours... it's in argentina. read it: http://www.terra.com.ar/canales/tecnologia/17/17180.html it is in spanish but basicly it says that there was a proposal that all goverment deparments and stuff will use open-source free software. AS A LAW. At the end of the article it is said that linux will be ready in 10 years for argentina. (or the oposite?) - diego Can you tell why Linux isn't ready now? Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think argentina is not ready for linux, and not the opposite. That is what is written in that article. IMHO non-bidi lenguages countries are very ready for linux. - diego = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trace TCP session
Greetings, You might like to checkout argus: http://www.qosient.com/argus. It collects information about data flows. It can also analyze tcpdump output. Regards, Yotam Rubin P.S.: If you use Debian, you can find the packaged version of argus at: http://192.117.130.34/Fendor/debian/argus On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 12:37:50PM +0300, Alon Altman wrote: Hi, Is there any way to be able to easily trace the data transferred in a TCP session that was collected via tcpdump or strace? Is there an existing tool to split tcpdump data into TCP connections and create a user-readable output of the connection flow? I want to use this to check what do some closed-source apps are doing... Alon - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwith sniffer
Greetings, I recently recommended argus to Oded Arbel, I won't make an exception here: http://www.qosient.com/argus. Debian binary packages are not mentioned at the website but can be found at http://192.117.130.34/Fendor/debian/argus Regards, Yotam Rubin P.S: Moderator: I accidently sent my last message as root, please reject it. On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:06:54PM +0200, Ronen Engler wrote: Hi, I'm interesting in a tool so i would be able to put on the linux firewall internal ethernet segment, machine, which will be able to show me how much bandwith is taken by each ip address, to where and the protocol type, so i would be able to know who's killing my bandwith. know any? using any? thanks. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL-Bezeq [Working!]
I want LeechFTP-like client (support : more than 1 connection at one time , more than 1 file download at one time, queues and bookmarks). I believe lftp supports the above features. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuration of partial in.addr zones.
Gentle people, I wish to present before you the following problem: Our ISP assigned us 5 'real' ip addresses. Our DNS server is the authoritative one for our makif.omer.k12.il domain. I wish to delegate control of the in.addr zone to our servers, mainly because Internet Zahav's DNS servers run bind-8.2.2-P5 which is susceptible to the tsig bug. Now, the in.addr zone should only be in charge of the five addresses assigned to us by our ISP. How can Internet Zahav create a partial in.addr zone for the five IP addresses assigned to us? I know of a way to achieve this using CNAME trickery, but I was hoping there is cleaner way to achieve this. Regards, Yotam Rubin PGP signature
Re: Configuration of partial in.addr zones.
Dear sir, I appreciate your polite advice but I fear that your answer does not resolve my problem; perhaps I was vague. Internet Zahav provides us DNS services, it decides which server will be authoritative for a given zone. I could independently create a reverse zone but external clients will not be directed to my server since it is not mentioned in the DNS tree. They must explicitly configure their servers in a way that will redirect clients to our server. Since we were assigned with only five addresses, Internet Zahav cannot delegate control of the full zone. If it was possible to create a partial zone, then Internet Zahav would be willing to transfer partial zone control to our servers. The CNAME trick which I was referring to is: The following is done in the ISP's side: makif-omer NS dns.makif.omer.k12.il 31 CNAME 31.makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa 32 CNAME 32.makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa 33 CNAME 33.makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa 34 CNAME 34.makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa 35 CNAME 35.makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa Then I would simply setup on my side the makif-omer.130.117.192.in-addr.arpa zone and poof, I have a partial zone. The above method is not extremely aesthetic, so I was wondering whether a better way exists. Best regards, Yotam Rubin On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:51:53PM +0200, Eran Levy wrote: Hi Yotam, You can do that in your own DNS server: you can use the IN A and IN PTR to do this. In one zone that resolves ip to name you have to type this: ip-address.in-addr.arpa.IN PTR name.domain. and in the nnaame to ip zone file you have to add this: name.domain.IN Aip-address You dont have them to add this to you. You can do this on your own server CNAME record is for alias name to another name like this: mail.fks.org.il IN CNAMEwebserver.fks.org.il hope this helps. At 16:23 27/04/01 +0300, you wrote: Gentle people, I wish to present before you the following problem: Our ISP assigned us 5 'real' ip addresses. Our DNS server is the authoritative one for our makif.omer.k12.il domain. I wish to delegate control of the in.addr zone to our servers, mainly because Internet Zahav's DNS servers run bind-8.2.2-P5 which is susceptible to the tsig bug. Now, the in.addr zone should only be in charge of the five addresses assigned to us by our ISP. How can Internet Zahav create a partial in.addr zone for the five IP addresses assigned to us? I know of a way to achieve this using CNAME trickery, but I was hoping there is cleaner way to achieve this. Regards, Yotam Rubin Regards, Eran Levy. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebSite: http://come.to/liloboot = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:02:46PM +0300, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: SK 530- It seems your IP address isn't properly registered in SK 530-the DNS - You must allow reverse DNS lookups. What I can't get in this story - what is the meaning of this restriction? Like, what for do you need reverse DNS? What it gives to you? Just to show that you are security-tough guy or has it any practical meaning? If so, what meaning? It provides a better audit trail. It is trivial to setup PTR records, and DNS admins should be clued enough to know that their configuration must be consistent. When all IP addresses have PTR records the admin can determine more quickly the possibly offending ISP. Yes, I know, I could query RIPE, but registrant information may not always lead to the desired person. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]\/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev/\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425 /\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:41:43PM +0300, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: YR It provides a better audit trail. It is trivial to setup PTR records, and Just how better? Why PTR (which can be easily faked) is better than IP, which determines uniquely the offending host? As for triviality, many things are trivial to do and yet it is not the reason to require people to do them. YR DNS admins should be clued enough to know that their configuration must be YR consistent. When all IP addresses have PTR records the admin can determine YR more quickly the possibly offending ISP. Yes, I know, I could query RIPE, That's bull. For a small pay I can talk my ISP into giving control of PTR to my hands. Then I can setup my DNS to resolve all my IPs into fsck.me.harder.com and now go and determine my ISP from that. If I was smart enough to register harder.com on myself, you will never know who I am from DNS records. On the contrary, IP blocks are assigned to ISPs and by IP you _can_ determine my ISP very fast and efficiently. YR but registrant information may not always lead to the desired person. It will at least _always_ lead to my ISP, and at ISP, if it's cooperative, you will find out who has bought the IP. If ISP is incooperative, reverse DNS won't help you a bit anyway. They could just make reverse DNS to be copy of the IP (most dialup providers do that, so you get 1.2.3.4.provider.net as reverse for 1.2.3.4) and you are back to square one. I believe you're missing a crucial point. I believe that wu-ftpd does not only verify that a certain IP address has a PTR record, but it also ensures that the PTR's respective A record is identical to the original IP address. The previous statement obviates the comments mentioned above. In the future, please maintain a minimal degree of politeness by refraining from writing That's bull. Best regards, Yotam Rubin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no linux GUI in 97?
Most revered sir. That does not imply cluelessness, it's a highly inflammatory statement. X window is not a GUI. Besides, what's a paradigm for a GUI? I find the Windows GUI horribly illogical and user-hostile. KDE and GNOME are well documented, unlike their Windows counterpart, which aims at obscuring very important details. Microsoft has simply convinced the general public that it has created a user-friendly OS. He does not deserve to be flamed, we should simply make him aware of his error via conventional means. Regards, On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:50:22AM +0200, Alon Barzilai wrote: not clueless? look what he wrote me this morning: I did not write that Linux started in 1997. As for GUI, it still doesn't have one in the conservative sense. The GUIs offered are more like elaborated skins than real GUIs. X windows is elaborated skins? Alon Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Uri Bruck wrote: ? ? I know that date is wrong, but one of the Captain Internet writers seems ? to think that when linux first showed up in 1997 it had no GUI. ? Seems to have strange ideas on when linux showed up. ? ? Anyone wants to set him straight one that? The author (Ori Redler) is not as clueless as the article suggests. He knows linux pretty well. From what he wrote to me, that article was severly edited. The original wording was something like in 1997 linux had no decent GUI, which is quite correct. This applies to various other incorrect facts in the article, thus there is really no need to set him straight -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: LINUX CONCERNED CITIZENS
Gentle people Why does this sound awfully dubious? Is there a website for this 'massive' i installation party? Also, why did he capitalize the word Linux? His permissive use of exclamation marks does not constitute official writing. Why did he only supply his e-mail address and not his cell phone number? Reframe's website contains nothing of value and the English section has not even been written yet. A whois on reframe.org yields the following: NAMEZERO.COM (REFRAME4-DOM) 51 University Ave, Suite K LOS GATOS, CA 95030 US Domain Name: REFRAME.ORG Administrative Contact: NAMEZERO.COM (NC3029-ORG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAMEZERO.COM 51 University Ave, Suite K LOS GATOS, CA 95030 US 4083950426 fax: 4083950436 Technical Contact: Technical Coordinator (TC6611-ORG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] namezero.com, Inc. 51 University Ave, Suite K Los Gatos, CA 95030 US 408-395-0426 Fax- - 408-395-0436 Billing Contact: NAMEZERO.COM-WN-BCIA (NC3027-ORG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAMEZERO.COM 262 East Main Street LOS GATOS, CA 95030 US 4083950426 Fax- - 4083950436 Record last updated on 01-Dec-2000. Record expires on 01-Dec-2001. Record created on 01-Dec-2000. Database last updated on 22-Apr-2001 23:15:00 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: GREEN.IDIRECTIONS.COM216.34.13.231 ORANGE.IDIRECTIONS.COM 216.34.13.234 On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 04:34:14PM +0200, Rafram Chaddad wrote: KOL KORE!!! KOL KORE!!! KOL KORE!!! For all of you LINUX people who want to make a change! This is the time to take action, and overull the unjustified dominance of the half-debugged Microsoft excuses. The community has it's chance to grow and become relevant, here, in the Holy-Microsoft-land! We've come to maturity! The biggest LINUX event ever orchestrated in Israel is about to happen: In May 29th a LINUX Insta-Party will take place in Jerusalem in a space at Shivtey-Yisrael 12 st. (Behind Safra Square). The party will include an unprecedented number of 15 Installation-positions, ready for the people. But this is not all! It will be a whole-concept event about installations, which means, it will include interactive sound and lighting installations, done by bright multimedia artists. The event is organized by the REFRAME group for Art, Politics and Social Change. It will be covered by media reporters of various fields from Computing to Art. This, we think, will be a great chance for the Israeli LINUX community to reveal itself, and more important: Reveal the free software idea to a larger crowd. We Reframers, activists and eggheads alike, wish to push LINUX and Free Software forward! For this, we ask for your help!!! First, we still need volunteering LINUX-installers, if you are interested just write to Rafram: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Noting a phone number will help a lot). THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO ALL! NO CHARGE REQUIRED!!! WE GET NO FEE!!! And of course M-O-N-E-Y! Sponsorship is still a need! If you are part of a company that might have an interest in helping us, you can write to the address listed above. last: If you know of anyone interested in having LINUX installed on his/hers computer/s, make them write to Saar NOW! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phone number, we remind again). WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE MUCH MORE OF YOU IN!!! Saar and Rafram In The Name of the ReFrame group = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Redhat Investor-relations run by Microsoft?
Greetings Mr. Kostantantinov, I believe one one must make the distinction between this so called "Open source business model" and "Free Software" as set by Richard Stallman. Each company which produces Open Software and intends to gain revenue from it has its own "Open Source Business Model". The conservative model is to bundle additional services along with software products. Richard Stallman however advocates "Free Software" by the community, for the community. He is rather ambivalent regarding "Open Source in business environments". Luckily, Linux and other OSS projects do not rely on a company to fund them. Such projects largely remain the whim of volunteering developers, so even if OSS based companies do eventually stutter and die, Free Software initiatives will continue to grow. As long as at least a single body maintains a truly royalty free Linux distribution, companies will continue to use Linux. Debian is a good example, for it is not business oriented at all, as opposed to all other Linux distributions. So far, the "Open Source Business Model" has not proven itself. Even companies like Valinux, which has a great potential of harvesting revenue, have not been able to make significant advancements. One will often hear from Linux hostile folks the following: "wh0a d00d! linucks is sux0rz, all companies thet trayed 2 make bux0rz from leanoocks got 0wned by da eye are ess." The above account is slightly exaggerated, purely for reasons of humoristic prolification. What these Linux hostile individuals do not understand, that it's not OSS that had failed, it is the "Open Source Business Model." Open Source continues to generate reliable and moral software. My personal inclination is not to advocate the "Open Source business model" but simply to endorse Free Software for the community, sans the added financial bias. BTW, I don't see any reason which prevents the community from creating good groupware software. groupware is a fairly new concept, and even commercial implementations leave much to be desired. Evolution is advancing nicely, and the phpgroupware folks are in the process of establishing a groupware 'standard'. I believe that the final results will prove to be much more satisfactory than inconsistent, proprietary and non-free alternatives. Best regards, Mr. Rubin On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 05:08:03PM +0300, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: Hi Nadav, A friend of mine, a developer on Apache/PHP on Win2K, has numerously claimed that the open source model won't work. It's not out of bad intentions -- I'm sure he'd like to see it working out - but simple logics tell him it can't work. And then, there are the facts. 60% HTTP servers run by Apache, Linux powering loads of mail and FTP servers around, major sites run on Linux / FreeBSD, not to mention cheap firewalls and NATs. At that friend's workplace, they've ended up swapping the Win2K server with a Linux one. (and besides, there are no losing and winning those projects -- all is important is to "stay afloat" and have fun) One concern though, is whether the community could pull complicated applications -- not an MTA / HTTP server, but things like groupware servers. Some guys think that's exactly where Linux gonna fail in favor of commercial vendors. We'll see about that ... -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat Investor-relations run by Microsoft?
Each OSS based company defines its own "Open Source business model" Redhat's business model cannot be compared with Valinux's because they focus on different market shares. Please note that I merely gave an example: I tried to show that even the OSS based company with the highest potential did not obtain sufficient revenue. Companies which produce Linux have lower revenue potential On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:40:32PM +0300, Adi Stav wrote: I wonder if we could even come up with an agreed upon definition of "open source business model". I suspect it is no less bogus than "Internet business model". People and companies make money the way they always have, which either is by offering products and services to others who wish to pay for them, or by taking it by force in some way. This is not going to change. Opensource/Free software might be involved to an extent, or not at all. I can't, in any way, see how Red Hat's business model can be even COMPARED with, for example, VA Linux's original business model, much less referred to with the same term. VA Linux's model was selling computer hardware! This is the farthest from unproven as you can get in the IT industry. Way too proven, in fact, because it forces competition with several players with as many as 50 years of experience. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat Investor-relations run by Microsoft?
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:02:30PM +0300, Yotam Rubin wrote: Each OSS based company defines its own "Open Source business model" Redhat's business model cannot be compared with Valinux's because they focus on different market shares. Please note that I merely gave an example: I tried to show that even the OSS based company with the highest potential did not obtain sufficient revenue. Companies which produce Linux have lower revenue potential "Companies which produce Linux distributions", that is. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no linux GUI in 97?
What? Such journalistic inaccuracy makes one wonder about the efficiency of Microsoft's relentless FUD tactics. He can expect a letter from me, and hopefully others will also contact him. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:46:36PM +0300, Uri Bruck wrote: I know that date is wrong, but one of the Captain Internet writers seems to think that when linux first showed up in 1997 it had no GUI. Seems to have strange ideas on when linux showed up. Anyone wants to set him straight one that? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request Advice Of LAN Building.
Gentle people, One could do one of either two things in order to avoid the backdoor. * Wait for Bezeq to issue fixes. * See http://security.sdsc.edu/self-help/alcatel for patches to close the discussed vulunerabilities. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 06:08:21PM +0200, Eran Tromer wrote: The downside is the security issue which I pointed out in http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/01/02/msg00203.html and which is now known to exist for Alcatel modems. Regards, Eran Tromer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Counter productive posts.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 03:34:33AM +0300, guy keren wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: How about for start - telling us which distribution, what version, which hard disks, which CDROM (IDE/SCSI/etc), which controller etc... and above all _the exact text of the erorr message you get_! and then type that error message into google's "search" box and hit the "search" button, and do that BEFORE you re-send your message here. Gentle people, I fear that I can no longer no longer bridle my tongue and refrain from reacting to Mr. Keren's inappropriate posts. Mr. Keren has adopted a habit of patronizing, humiliating and offending any user which does not submit questions of adequate quality. Mr Keren, a large number of users does not know how to properly ask questions, dismissing them as mindless losers is counter productive. Instead of providing these users in aid with unwitty insults, your replies should descriptive and cordial; do not proclaim that a certain user is a mere "Waste of bandwidth" for it only discourages the discussed user. New users should not be afraid to ask questions, no matter how poorly they've phrased their requests. Prior to unleashing your distressed lingual gestapo, perhaps you should consider the merits of such an act. Your pompous nature is extremely conspicuous in nearly all of your posts. Upon holstering you ego, you should be able to realize that bashing user does not help anyone besides your gashed ego. Regards, Yotam Rubin PGP signature
[crispin@WIREX.COM: Linux Security Module Interface]
Gentle people, Some of you might find the following article to contain interesting information. Personally, I have been waiting for such a thing to happen for quite a long time. Up until now I have regularly been applying non-standard security related patches to the kernel and I'm sure that others do the same, so my interest in the following letter is obvious. Regards, Yotam Rubin - Forwarded message from Crispin Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Crispin Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: WireX Communications, Inc. Subject: Linux Security Module Interface One of the byproducts of the Linux 2.5 Kernel Summit http://lwn.net/2001/features/KernelSummit/ was the notion of an enhancement of the loadable kernel module interface to facilitate security-oriented kernel modules. The purpose is to ease the tension between folks (such as Immunix and SELinux) who want to add substantial security capabilities to the kernel, and other folks who want to minimize kernel bloat have no use for such security extensions. Modules that can be loaded, or not, are the obvious solution, but the current LKM does not export sufficient hooks to support many security mechanisms. Thus many current security enhancements end up existing as kernel patches, which marginalizes their utility by making distribution problematic. The proposed solution is to enhance the LKM with a variety of new kernel elements exported to the module interface, so as to support a reasonable variety of security enhancements. We have started a new mailing list called linux-security-module. The charter is to design, implement, and maintain suitable enhancements to the LKM to support a reasonable set of security enhancement packages. The prototypical module to be produced would be to port the POSIX Privs code out of the kernel and make it a module. An essential part of this project will be that the resulting work is acceptable for the mainline Linux kernel. The list is open to all. You can subscribe here http://mail.wirex.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-security-module or by sending e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "subscribe". Crispin -- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. Chief Scientist, WireX Communications, Inc. http://wirex.com Security Hardened Linux Distribution: http://immunix.org - End forwarded message - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Hebrew, KDE RPM's, and other stuff
Hey Tzafrir, You are correct, the creation of such a package only involves the placement of the CVS code instead of the stable code and adding the --bidi-enabled flag to debian/rules. Can you please not CC me when such a thing is not required? We all read the list and there's no need to generate redundant traffic. Regards, Yotam Rubin On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:47:28PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: Gentle people, This probably does not interest you, but I am willing to create debs of CVS mozilla with bidi support enabled. I will create this packaged based on the demand presented on this list. Regards, Yotam Rubin I hope that you'll do as little changes as possible for the current official Mozilla deb. This will help the official Debian maintainer integrate your deb with his once the CVS version will become the official release. Basically all you need to change is the source tarball. The rest of the package can remain unchaged (assuming you don't happen to break the diff) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
