Re: Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow
On Thursday 20 November 2003 12:16 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:02:42 -0800 > > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, an example of someone with FAR too much time on their hands. > > ;-) > > Look, if you don't like scientific research don't subscribe-- No! Try > again, Right!, so you don't think -Bother, try again: > > Ok, they have too much time on their hands, so we, who don't, don't > check the link, don't decide they have too much time on their hands > and DO NOT, DEFINITELY DO NOT reply to the original post > Oh, dear > > > Well, you all know what I mean.... > > > Terence (God, it's hot in here..) Rolling on the floor once again! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problems printing out PDF files
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 06:43 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > Well, I tried to print the document with windows XP pro off my laptop > while the laptop was hooked up to my home network, and it still > wouldn't print. I am using the HP driver laserjet III with ps support > to print them, both on the linux side and the windows side. That is, > both the windows laptop and the linux desktop send a postscript file > to my linux printing box, which runs propietary linux drivers from > Lexmark which converts postscript into something my Z53 understands. > > The odd thing is that pdf2ps produces valid postscript which displays > and prints fine. So, it really sounds more like an acroread issue, > both in windows and in linux, than an issue with the pdf. Well, if you are interested, send me the file and I will see if I can print it with Adobe ACROBAT (not just acroread) which I have on my unmentionableOSpartition. > > Joel > > wOn Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:34:43AM -0800, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 06:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:05:10AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: > > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:46:47 -0500 Joel Hammer > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My daughter is printing out pdf applications for grad school. > > > > > We get various errors with acroread, but basically some > > > > > documents don't print. Here is one type of error. If I print > > > > > the document to a file, here is what I get with gv. > > > > > > > > > > Error: /invalidfont in -dict- > > > > > > Any chance the PDFs were created with MS Word? I've had this > > > problem at work, and the issue is that Word embeds some funky > > > font code that prevents the thing from printing. > > > > I often have this problem with pdf files downloaded from the web > > (tech data sheets, product literature, etc.) They print in > > Windows, but not in linux, even though I have the latest linux > > version of acroread. > > > > > > -- > > Tony Alfrey > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "I'd rather be sailing" > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 06:06 pm, Alan Jackson wrote: > Ahem. Since I feel certain that many of you are Monty Python fans, > I offer the following : > > http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/ Again, an example of someone with FAR too much time on their hands. ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [InterLUG] AOL now in the Linux PC business
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:49 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:11:35 -0800 Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:00 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > > > Consuming 0.7K bytes, Henry Keultjes blathered: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > http://www.aolcheckout.com/aol-pc/aol01.asp?srccode=subp1b44769 > > > >5&vc id=a1 > > > > > > No Linux there... > > > > Not only that, it's "AOL Optimized". > > Translated: does nothing and slowly. ROFLMAO!!! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [InterLUG] AOL now in the Linux PC business
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:00 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Consuming 0.7K bytes, Henry Keultjes blathered: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > http://www.aolcheckout.com/aol-pc/aol01.asp?srccode=subp1b447695&vc > >id=a1 > > No Linux there... Not only that, it's "AOL Optimized". Isn't that an oxymoron? And if you look at the details, it's really twice the $300 advertised price. AOL is getting desperate to find new customers. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problems printing out PDF files
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 06:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:05:10AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:46:47 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My daughter is printing out pdf applications for grad school. We > > > get various errors with acroread, but basically some documents > > > don't print. Here is one type of error. If I print the document > > > to a file, here is what I get with gv. > > > > > > Error: /invalidfont in -dict- > > Any chance the PDFs were created with MS Word? I've had this problem > at work, and the issue is that Word embeds some funky font code that > prevents the thing from printing. I often have this problem with pdf files downloaded from the web (tech data sheets, product literature, etc.) They print in Windows, but not in linux, even though I have the latest linux version of acroread. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:09 am, Alan Jackson wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:50:23 -0500 > > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 15 November 2003 9:28 am, someone claiming to be Tony > > Alfrey > > > > wrote: > > > Hi; > > > > > > Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. > > > This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. > > > I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts > > > in > > I think you need imap to do that sort of filtering... OK, thanks. Found lots of stuff on Google about imap. Reading comes next. Appears to be a compact Linux Journal article about just this task. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Saturday 15 November 2003 06:50 am, Tim Wunder wrote: > > Don't think POP filters can filter on , seems to be only > available for regular filters. Looks to me like POP filters can only > filter on the message header. > > HTH, > Tim Yeah, I saw that, too, and typed in . It stuck but maybe it didn't work. Bummer! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
newbie kmail filter ques.
Hi; Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts in attachments are not downloaded from my mail server (earthlink) . So I just set up a POP filter in the handy dandy POP filter rules window box with a "Filter Criteria" of contains .exe contains .scr because is what the kmail help page suggested for filtering the entire contents. But no joy. I'm not worried about them running, I just don't like them clogging up my mail. Any helpful hints?? Am I interpreting the concept of "mail server" correctly (that is, the "mail server" is my earthlink isp that "stores" my email). Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: way
On Friday 14 November 2003 06:13 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: > > I'm too much of an email/etc youngster to understand shortcuts like > > > > :-) and ;-) > > > > My google searches have produced no results. > > > > Where are these defined? > > rotate your head 270 degree, and look at them again. Easy for you to say. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:22 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:02:05 -0800 Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I consulted for a place once that, when I told IS I wanted to run > > linux > > > > on the in-house computer they gave me to use, basically threated > > to fire me. I literally had to hide the linux partition on the > > box. I'm not there anymore, and I'm sure the partition is still > > there. They probably can't figure out why the hard disk only > > appears to be half as big as it is supposed to be. > > Been there, done that, had (like you) the last laugh! Yeah, except they went broke and still owe me some money. That hidden linux partition led to their downfall, no doubt! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 02:02 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:01:57 -0600 "Andrew L. Gould" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > So yes, he had a hand in many of today's circumstances; however, I > > choose to disassociate today's SCO from Ransom Love's Caldera that > > created eDesktop 2.4. (Ahh, the memories of my early newbiness.) > > Speaking of which, I was wandering through a MicroCenter store just > yesterday and found a copy of Caldera OpenLinux between the RedHats > and SuSEs. Shades of yesteryear. So my question is, if you bought that and loaded it up, would you be guilty of violating some SCO license? And could you get the tech support advertised on the box? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:23 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth M.W. Chang: > > better than open office? > > Yup, in the same way that single malt scotch is better than > Listerine. > > Kurt On this thread, someone commented that they had pretty good success with OO and textmaker re: Word format docs. Just for grins, I loaded up OO and opened up a Word doc that someone just sent me. Looked pretty wierd in OO but looked perfect with textmaker. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 09:48 am, Chris Kassopulo wrote: > Former Caldera CEO Ransom Love joins Progeny board > > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/11/11/0333248 Way cool! Is Progeny stock traded publicly? I can put in a short sell order first thing Wednesday morning! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Monday 10 November 2003 08:11 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > Yes, I have also found another use for windows. Politics. I have > gotten, by default, the job of getting us up and going with digital > photography in our pathology department. > > You have to experience it to believe it, but our IS department is > trying to make my life as difficult as possible because I bought a > computer from the digital camera company, not through IS. Our IS > steals software and hardware from people who buy through them and not > straight from the vendor. Seriously. And, of course, IS bids for > hardware are slow and over priced. If I suggested linux, they would > use that against me for sure and fight like tooth and nail all the > way. We are talking seriously computer impaired but politically savvy > people. They have to be politically savvy because they keep their > jobs despite knowing nothing about computers. I consulted for a place once that, when I told IS I wanted to run linux on the in-house computer they gave me to use, basically threated to fire me. I literally had to hide the linux partition on the box. I'm not there anymore, and I'm sure the partition is still there. They probably can't figure out why the hard disk only appears to be half as big as it is supposed to be. Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: My new Linux User
On Sunday 09 November 2003 06:28 am, Rick Sivernell wrote: > Does any one have a recommendation for a good cad program that will > read in/out acad files. Since he paid over $400 for the lite version, > he opposed to paying again. Try VariCAD www.varicad.com I'm playing with it now and it seems pretty decent, but it is not free. It has a trial version. HOWEVER, the thing only comes as rpms for SuSE, mandrake and redhat. I tried an rpm query to find out what it needed, and loaded up all the stuff it wanted (specifically wanted glibc-2.4.4) and then the dumb thing went to look for a version number for glibc in an rpm database. But of course, I compiled glibc from source and the dumb thing instead wanted to look at an rpm database so it still would not run. So, in the end, I had to load up SuSE 8.1 just to get the f*$&%^ thing to work. So that was annoying, but it does work and is fairly straightforward. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
On Sunday 09 November 2003 07:05 am, Collins Richey wrote: > I'm used to waiting for reponse from user groups re open source > products, but IMHO a commerical provider needs to have a little > better response than this. > > Perhaps I'll try again or try to buy it during the Karnival madness. Try it; you'll like it. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:29 am, M.W. Chang wrote: > better than open office? > > Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads > > and writes Word format. Don't know; haven't used OO. Sorry. I think they still have a trial version; load it up and give it a spin. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
On Sunday 09 November 2003 04:49 am, dep wrote: > quoth M.W. Chang: > | what does textmaker do? > > it is an *excellent* word processor. reads and writes msft word files > of many flavors -- best filters i've ever seen. and is both very > powerful and very fast. i've so far used it for three book proposals Yeah, but did you get the contract?? > (complicated documents of about 25,000 words each) My God, can you imagine reading another 25,000 words of dep?? Like that "Practical KDE" book he wrote that I bought that was out of date about two months after it came out ;-) And the book came with no cheap upgrades, unlike Textmaker. > and numerous > magazine pieces, and it hasn't hiccuped even once. and it works very > well on a low-resources machine; it's very fast on my celeron 366 > notebook with 192 megs of memory. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
On Sunday 09 November 2003 05:10 am, Rick Sivernell wrote: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:37:01 +0800 > > "M.W. Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what does textmaker do? "It's a floor wax . . . No, it's a dessert topping . . . .No, floor wax, . . . . No, dessert topping. Stop, you're both right!" "And, for a limited time only, not just $59.95, or $49.95, but, if you mention that you saw it on linuxandmain, yours for only $29.95 (shipping and handling not included)". Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads and writes Word format. > > > > dep wrote: > > > i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very, > > > very good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass > > > it along in case anyone had been interested but didn't want to > > > pay $50 for the product (though if it were $200 it would be worth > > > it, imho). > > > > -- > > .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. > > / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org > > /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22-xfs > > ^ ^7:36pm up 1 day, 3:42, 0 users, load average: 1.13, 0.99, > > 0.97 ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > I dl the free trial, what installs it. > RickSivernell textmakertrial # ll > total 14851 > drwxr-xr-x7 500 users 912 Sep 19 09:12 . > drwxr-xr-x3 rick users 152 Nov 9 07:02 .. > drwxrwxrwx2 500 users 552 May 2 2003 fonts > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 487476 Nov 16 1998 gerconv.thn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 665627 Nov 15 1998 german.dcn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 70685 Jun 13 2002 german.hyp > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 644280 Sep 22 1998 german.thn > drwxr-xr-x4 500 users2216 May 27 10:39 html > drwxr-xr-x2 500 users 240 Apr 15 2003 icons > drwxr-xr-x5 500 users 128 Mar 26 2003 install_de > drwxr-xr-x5 500 users 136 Apr 29 2003 install_en > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 648047 Nov 16 1998 ngerman.dcn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 84966 Jan 15 1999 ngerman.hyp > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 644483 Sep 23 1998 ngerman.thn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 5875354 Sep 19 09:31 tml > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 482012 Sep 19 09:31 tml.awr > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 498902 Sep 19 09:31 tml.dwr > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 498999 Sep 19 09:31 tml.nwr > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 482057 Sep 19 09:31 tml.uwr > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 1564237 Apr 30 2003 tml_de.pdf > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 956305 Dec 25 2002 tml_en.pdf > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 187663 Sep 21 1998 ukeng.dcn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 23080 Jan 15 1999 ukeng.hyp > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 457033 Sep 23 1998 ukeng.thn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 185550 Sep 21 1998 useng.dcn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 88232 Jan 15 1999 useng.hyp > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 456454 Sep 23 1998 useng.thn > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 31005 Feb 19 2003 vgacou.dwf > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users6047 Feb 19 2003 vgahlv.dwf > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users6306 Feb 19 2003 vgasys.dwf > -rwxr-xr-x1 500 users 109672 Feb 19 2003 vgatms.dwf -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:03 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tony Alfrey wrote: > > The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. > > in a good way? or no? Well, as one might expect, there are two camps. The paranoid that see EVIL in all things corporate and see MS behind everything, and the optimistic capitalists that see the boost in investment and corporate clout as a counterbalance to Red Hat hegemony. And all gradations in between. But the total KB of SuSE list volume is up today by about 400%. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > AT&T SVR4 -> AT&T SVR4.2 -> Univel UnixWare -> Novell UnixWare -> SCO > UnixWare -> Caldera OpenLinux -> SuSE Linux. > Looks like you guys have bad kharma . -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 06:55 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mickey Hill writes "Novell today announced it has entered into an > agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. Novell stock is up some 30% on the news. Somebody thinks it's a good idea. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backwards
On Saturday 25 October 2003 03:28 pm, Net Llama! wrote: > http://www.linux-sxs.org.mirror.sytes.org/ Hummph! Just what we need; a comedian. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 06:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Tony Alfrey: > > Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . > > if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I > > install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? > > No. Going the other way -- apps compiled against 2.2.4 running on > a 2.2.1 system -- might not run, though. I think that's probably OK if I change to 2.2.4 Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Monday 20 October 2003 07:31 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > > > Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . > > if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I > > install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? > > No. You're not removing glibc-2.2.1, you're just adding glibc-2.2.4. Ah Hah! I guess I didn't read it that well. Very good! I will study it again and proceed VERY carefully. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Monday 20 October 2003 05:03 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me > > that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something > > a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is > > a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list > > that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the > > suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this > > already part of the installation. > > Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in > > with ease? > > No, your memory is correct, although upgrading glibc isn't > neccesarily hard, its just not simple either. Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
glibc question
Hi; I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this already part of the installation. Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in with ease? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a general rpm question
On Monday 20 October 2003 03:40 am, David A. Bandel wrote: > > dynamic executables use /etc/ld.so.cache (generated from entries and > /etc/ld.so.conf and by running ldconfig) to find libraries they > require. Ahh, yes. I forgot about ldconfig!! Thanks for the reminder! I would have forgotten to run it and I'd then still be a library 'short'. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a general rpm question
On Sunday 19 October 2003 05:32 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: > On Sunday 19 October 2003 8:00 pm, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey > > > - Is there a generic fix for this sort of symptom?? > > There's the --nodeps switch that bypasses rpm's dependancy checking. > If you're certain that the needed libs are indeed installed, it > should be fine. The problem is, too many people use --nodeps or > --force without really knowing what it does, and get upset when > things stop working. > > Regards, > Tim I seldom use rpm because of this issue. I try to always get source code and compile until all parts are found. I only have one more library to load up and dependencies should then be complete. My more general question pertains to the executable that finally gets installed and starts calling libraries. If the rpm didn't know about the library in the first place (because it did not use 'locate'), how will the executable know where it is? Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
a general rpm question
Hi; I'm trying to install a SuSE rpm onto a Caldera partition and rpm --test gives me the typical big list of dependencies (all libraries). I have all of the libraries that it complains about, but they're probably not in the same place that SuSE puts them. So my question is: - Does rpm read the results of 'locate' or the rpm database file? - If it does, should it not be able to find the needed files/libraries? - Is there a generic fix for this sort of symptom?? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Friday 17 October 2003 12:20 pm, Robert E. Raymond wrote: > Hi, > > I'm installing Linux on a laptop for a friend - P4 1.8, 256 MB DDR, > Radeon 7500, it's really a pretty nice laptop. > How 'bout Caldera OpenLinux 3.1?? ;-) (slap) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Trying to give SCO Money, Part II: Success (sort of)
On Monday 22 September 2003 01:36 pm, Harry Giles wrote: > On Mon September 22 2003 12:24 pm, Leon Goldstein wrote: > > You might as well spend your money one one of those magnetic things > > you clamp around your fuel line to improve your mileage. > > You mean it won't work? Dang! They work in Texas. (oooh, sh#t, I'll bet THAT raises a fuss). -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Trying to give SCO Money, Part II: Success (sort of)
On Monday 22 September 2003 08:00 am, M. Drew Streib wrote: > > Sales reps are currently authorized to take your credit card > information and sell you a 'license' over the phone, but are > apparently unable to actually send you a copy of said license. > Oh, no problem. I think that this is the same sort of business proposition I got the other day from a Nigerian colleague that needed to transfer some money into the States and was willing to give me a cut if I sent him my bank routing number and account. So you should not feel uncomfortable with this ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: i wonder . . .
On Friday 19 September 2003 07:49 pm, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:42 pm, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > > > Dep wrote: > > > > i was just moving some stuff around while bringing in stuff > > > > from the outside in anticipation of tonight's windstorm, and i > > > > happened upon a box containing boxed sets and original cds from > > > > several dozen now-defunct linux distributions. while i have it > > > > out, i'll add an actual boxed set of unitedlinux and my progeny > > > > stuff. > > > > > > If your trove includes any copies of Corel Linux with WordPerfect > > > 8.1, you might post a note on the Corel WP Linux newsgroup. > > > Plenty of folks would like to buy a copy. > > > > I have the Corel Linux Disks and also the Personal Edition of Corel > > WP for Linux 8 (the program release says 8.0.0076 6/23/98). My > > dial-up is probably too slow to send them anywhere but maybe I > > could burn a copy of the disks and mail them somewhere?? But there > > must be someone with a fast connection that could post them? > > I can't recommend copying or posting your CD's owing to the > copyright. > > There are people who are quite willing to buy your CD's, and will > gladly pay a reasonable price. Jeeze, I can't imagine why. I don't think that the set cost more than about $20 if that much. I didn't keep the manual ( I don't think; I'll look around). > If you don't want to post on the Corel newsgroup yourself, you can > let me know what you have, > and what you're asking, and I'll post the info. Let me think about it. Certainly the Linux disks are worth nothing to me. The separate WordPerfect disks still are, although I'm trying to convert everything out of WordPerfect. > > BTW do you have Corel Linux deluxe or standard edition? It makes a > difference as far as WP 8.1 goes. It says "deluxe" on the CD sleeves. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: ADMIN: lots of upcoming changes! PLEASE READ
On Friday 19 September 2003 01:55 pm, Net Llama! wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > yup. hell of a lot better than the snow in ohio. i'll be swimming > on New Years Day. Incidentally, you are missin' out on a serious party if you don't try to hang out on Colorado Blvd. in Pasadena on New Year's Eve/New Year's Day for the Rose Parade. You gotta get there a day in advance to find a spot on the street to camp out, but it is worth it. Your kid would love it (what, about 2 now??), you get to check out the floats up close, blah blah, blah. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ADMIN: lots of upcoming changes! PLEASE READ
On Friday 19 September 2003 01:05 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have officially decided to accept a position with VA Software (VA > Linux). So, as of Sept 29, 2003, I'll be out in California with > Llama. Oh, Jeeze, the Lllama must have put something in your coffee. Did he tell you how much more expensive it is to live out here than Ohio?? Did he tell you that there are "californians" in California?? Did he tell you that we spend all of our time sitting around in hot tubs and that it makes our keyboards rusty? Did he tell you that it only rains for three months out of the year here? Did he tell you about the recall?? Should I go on?? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: i wonder . . .
On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:42 pm, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Dep wrote: > > i was just moving some stuff around while bringing in stuff from > > the outside in anticipation of tonight's windstorm, and i happened > > upon a box containing boxed sets and original cds from several > > dozen now-defunct linux distributions. while i have it out, i'll > > add an actual boxed set of unitedlinux and my progeny stuff. > > If your trove includes any copies of Corel Linux with WordPerfect > 8.1, you might post a note on the Corel WP Linux newsgroup. > Plenty of folks would like to buy a copy. I have the Corel Linux Disks and also the Personal Edition of Corel WP for Linux 8 (the program release says 8.0.0076 6/23/98). My dial-up is probably too slow to send them anywhere but maybe I could burn a copy of the disks and mail them somewhere?? But there must be someone with a fast connection that could post them? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: i wonder . . .
On Thursday 18 September 2003 03:01 pm, dep wrote: > > i've heard of people who collect a[ssh]ol[e] cds; i'm wondering if > there is a definitive collection anywhere of linux distributions . . I know it's blowin' there, but it sounds like you've got a lot more spare time than a lot of us do -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Helloooooo...
On Thursday 11 September 2003 01:30 pm, dep wrote: > quoth Tony Alfrey: > | > Well if you consider getting a message on Thursday afternoon that > | > was sent on Wednesday afternoon OK, then it's working OK here, > | > too ;-) > | > | Oooh, jeeze, I guess I didn't check the dates <:o > > guess those rumors about the u.s. postal service taking over email > have proved true . . . Yeah, what they do is open your mail, scan it, send it to an appropriate local post office as an attachment, print it out, and then deliver it in the usual way. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Helloooooo...
On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:12 am, Tim Wunder wrote: > On 9/11/2003 2:11 PM, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 September 2003 05:38 pm, burns wrote: > >>Where did everyone go? I haven't received any list mail today. > >> > >>Or is it my mail/ISP? > > > > Workin' OK here. > > Well if you consider getting a message on Thursday afternoon that was > sent on Wednesday afternoon OK, then it's working OK here, too ;-) Oooh, jeeze, I guess I didn't check the dates <:o -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Helloooooo...
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 05:38 pm, burns wrote: > Where did everyone go? I haven't received any list mail today. > > Or is it my mail/ISP? Workin' OK here. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MS finally gets a little smarter
On Friday 05 September 2003 12:26 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > > Yeah, but to paraphrase DEP, when all is said and done all you have > is an updated windows . Sort of like a fresh cowpie instead of one that has dried out in the sun. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
less is more
Hey Doug, good job whatever you did with the linux-sxs server, I'm getting much much less mail crap now! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 08:38 am, Harry Giles wrote: > I have recieved about 30 of these from the mailing list. Anyone else > getting them? I'm getting megabytes of this stuff and other bounced mail. I think Doug is gonna work on a really spiffy filter to keep all of this bounced stuff from getting sent back out on linux-sxs.org -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ASSISTANCE
On Thursday 28 August 2003 10:15 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear
>
> Greetings,I am Bennard William VAYE {A Liberian}who has just
> gotten off the hands of Rebels fighting against the
> regime of President Charles Taylor. My Father who
> He gave me the documents
> and Authority to claim the Consignment from the
> Company.The amount involve in the Consignmemt is
> $31.5m[Thirty one, million Five Hundred Thousand US
> Dollars]
> and you
> shall advice me on a profitable Business in
> yourCountry.
Maybe this guy might be interested in investing in SCO??
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Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Monday 25 August 2003 02:26 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:47:53 -0700 > > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > > > Quoth Tony Alfrey: > > > > I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if > > > > there was a "contact us" that I might use to send them all a > > > > nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got > > > > cracked? > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > Kurt > > > > Still dead this morning. How is a loyal customer like me supposed > > to get customer service/tech support for the boxed linux distro > > that I bought from them?? ;-) > > Why, send in your licensing fee to SCO for all the stolen IP stuff > you have in your linux boxen, and I'm sure they'll get right back to > you. Jeeze (slap to head), why didn't I think of that? I'll get my checkbook out right now. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Tony Alfrey: > > I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there > > was a "contact us" that I might use to send them all a nasty letter > > but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? > > Again. > > Kurt Still dead this morning. How is a loyal customer like me supposed to get customer service/tech support for the boxed linux distro that I bought from them?? ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sunday 24 August 2003 01:02 pm, Alma J Wetzker wrote: > > Richard Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23 Aug 2003 18:13:13 -0800 > > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:21, Bill Campbell wrote: > The current SCO management does not seem to have a clue how the > industry works. That plus equal parts greed and stupidity are > sufficient reason for their actions and claims. Much as I _WANT_ M$ > to be involved and, more importantly, caught driving this thing it is > a far simpler explanation that Darl and Co. are incompetent and want > to drive their stock value up anyway. Think about it. They are not > old men. Where are they ever going to work as executives again? > Microsoft?? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a "contact us" that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Nigerian/SCO Connection
On Sunday 17 August 2003 08:29 am, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:03 am, Kurt Wall wrote: > > ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: > > > > http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html > > > > Kurt > > Excellent! I just emailed a copy of it to work and tomorrow I run it > off on one of the lasers. It'll make a great poster. It needs a picture of Darl McBride in one of those cool Nigerian hats. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
The interesting thing is that this whole thing actually made the local public radio station with a story from National Public Radio (NPR). Of course, these sorts of public radio stories are always "behind the curve" but it described linux as being an operating system developed by a collective of internet-based developers, mentioned that SCO had purchased some rights to the Unix OS, that SCO had claimed that some as-yet-undisclosed portions of Unix code had been copied into linux and finally that SCO was now expecting linux users to pay a license fee. The story then went on to say that NPR reporters had contacted some developers of the linux code who then said that, if SCO would tell them which portions of the code had been so copied, that they would then rewrite these portions of offending code "in about a day". I was driving my car and laughed so hard I nearly drove off the road. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 05:02 pm, Net Llama! wrote: > O'Reilly had a significantly larger booth than the previous years. > They were running a special, buy 2 books, get a 25th Anniversary > t-shirt for free. The books were going like hotcakes. Damn! I just bought an O'Reilly book. I'll take it back and zip up to the show! > > Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving > away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 > attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which > notably comes with a registered copy of WineX & Crossover. Hmmm, looks like I missed a good day. Tomorrow, I'm there. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:59 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > > > A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian > > > Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's > > > attempt to "license" users of the Linux 2.4 kernel. > > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7037&mode=thread&orde > > >r=0 > > > > > > I'm going to salute this initiative with a 1/2 liter can of > > > Fosters tonight. > > > > IMHO, VB would be better. > > Oh, we are getting nasty. VB and Fosters ?? is the Queensland > beer. I thought Foster's was just the cheap stuff that they imported to us gringos in the States and that no real self-respecting Aussie would touch the stuff?? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sxs list urls?
On Monday 28 July 2003 06:46 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I > > find a step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a > > link, the url for that particular page does not appear in the > > browser location bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. > > I think that is the link for the left-hand frame, not the actual > > sxs. Is there a way to make the path to the actual step appear > > somewhere? > > In Mozilla, you could always right click on the page, and open it as > a new frame. Oh, that's very good. Works just fine in several versions of Netscape. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sxs list urls?
Hi! I have a comment/suggestion/question about the list format. If I find a step on the list which I then wish to send to someone as a link, the url for that particular page does not appear in the browser location bar, only http://linux-sxs.org/inde2.html appears. I think that is the link for the left-hand frame, not the actual sxs. Is there a way to make the path to the actual step appear somewhere? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Congrats
On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:11 am, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > ... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de > France victory. > I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be > very popular in the US, in spite of Lance. > For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year. > Klaus Thanks! Cycling is certainly popular where I live (up in the coastal mountains south of San Francisco) and we always seem to see an increased number of teams on some of the Category 2 climbs leading up to and during the Tour. But I think that a lot of the attraction of the Tour would be to actually see it in France, not just on television. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compile kernel in KDE?
On Friday 25 July 2003 03:38 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Being drunk at the time, I forgot about building a new kernel. > Imagine my surprise when my box booted to a new kernel of which I > had no recollection. ;-) > > Kurt O, I have learned the hard way not to mess with computers or lasers in this condition. But thanks for the tip ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Happy Sys Admin Appreciation Day
On Friday 25 July 2003 08:11 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just > like to take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list. > I'll be throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite! Considering that this is July (not June), perhaps you've already thrown down a few cold beverages too many?? But we appreciate you anyway. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
compile kernel in KDE?
Hi! Another kernel compile question. It seems that one may compile a kernel while still running KDE or some other desktop as long as one gets out of the desktop and back to a terminal before doing make modules_install and moving the new kernel image to /boot since the old kernel is still loaded and running until rebooting. Any remarks as to this being a Bad Thing? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
map file (newbie)
Hi! I'm trying to clean up my understanding of the kernel compiling process. (for reference, still running Caldera and LILO) I'm trying to understand the purpose of the map file. I have a file System.map in my kernel source directory that I think is created/updated when I compile my kernel. I assume that it is supposed to go in /boot. And O'Reilly "Running Linux" says that lilo should include a line map = /boot/map but I don't have this line. So what gives? a) What is creating the file ~/kernel-build-directory/System.map? b) Is it called when I boot if LILO is not told where it is? c) Do I need it? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: If Linux was a car -
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 04:02 pm, el lodger wrote: > Begin forwarded message: > > Subject: If Linux was a car A complete hoot! As much as I laughed when I read this, and as much as I would like it to be otherwise, it is exactly true. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 09:20 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2003 12:13 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > > > Any remarks from anyone about Bruce's comment on kernels lower than > > 2.4.21 not compiling with 3.3?? > > I'm running SuSE 8.2 which has gcc-3.3 installed. It is supplied > with a 2.4.20 kernel, but heavily patched. > > I downloaded a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel to roll my own and it wouldn't > compile due to the string problems. That's how I discovered it. The > 2.4.21 kernel compiles fine. Well, OK. I'm gonna download all the junk I need and try the Llama dual-compiler switch. I think I'll stay away from glibc 2.3.x. I don't like pain. We know the Lllama does; over there workin' for VA Soft ;-) Thanks everyone for all for compiler suggestions!! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:32 am, Jerry McBride wrote: > My reply is mixed within your original text... > > On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been > > running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems > > I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically > > a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 > > kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? > > You mean on the source code level and then recompiling it with gcc > 3.3? No problems... Any remarks from anyone about Bruce's comment on kernels lower than 2.4.21 not compiling with 3.3?? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:33 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Monday 21 July 2003 08:02 am, Net Llama! wrote: > > > I've not run into any gcc specific problems since upgrading. Now > > > going to glibc-2.3.x is another story altogether (mucho > > > headaches). > > > > I've heard this is not pleasant. Why would I need to do this? > > Not to build gcc-3.x, no. However, alot of newer stuff is wanting > glibc-2.3.x. You *do* need gcc-3.x to build glibc-2.3.x though. I think someone suggested buying a distro with glibc-2.3.x already built-in rather than trying to install it. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:07 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2003 10:56 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been > > running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems > > I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically > > a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 > > kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? > > One gotcha... The 3.3 compiler has some stricter rules on strings > and will not compile anything under kernel 2.4.21 I believe > although the problems are few and could be patched I suppose. The > older kernels have strings that don't fit the new rules. Ops!! I think I will need to switch between compilers. Thanks for the warning! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: compiler question
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:02 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been > > running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems > > I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically > > I just wrote a gcc-3.3 SxS. I just started to read this after I posted. > > > a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 > > kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? > > Looks like Redhat has built a 2.4.21 kernel with gcc-3.3. Now I > don't know what you mean by a 'small change'. I'd say that its not a > good idea to build new kernel modules with one compiler, and the > kernel with another, regardless of the versions of gcc. I don't build with modules, I just use the 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach, and recompile the whole thing and back up the old one. I might want to make just one change in the config file. > > c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and > > 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent > > compiler. > > See my SxS. There are a few different tricks, but i've found setting > the CC env var to the location of the gcc that you wish to use to be > the best solution. It is not clear to me what switches put gcc3 into usr/local/bin (or is that the default?). Right now my gcc is in usr/bin. > > > General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. > > I've not run into any gcc specific problems since upgrading. Now > going to glibc-2.3.x is another story altogether (mucho headaches). I've heard this is not pleasant. Why would I need to do this? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
compiler question
I see that more and more stuff will require gcc 3.3 and I've been running gcc 2.95.2. So can someone tell me what potential problems I might have if I install 3.3. Specifically a) will 3.3 prevent me from now making small changes in my 2.4.4 kernel previously compiled with 2.95.2? b) Will I need some special tools to go with 3.3 (I'll of course read the read me about things I'll need for 3.3) c) Is there some clever way that I might switch between 2.95.2 and 3.3? gcc at the command line presumably knows only my most recent compiler. General suggestions about switching would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: SCO's Boy In Trouble?
On Sunday 20 July 2003 03:09 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: > SCO's boy, David Boies, may have some legal trouble of his own: > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/auto/epaper/editions/s >aturday/local_news_f381cb202242317a0031.html He is scum, but I have a better page: http://users.erols.com/ted.mayberry/jokes/lawyerjokes.htm -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Shane B. did it !!
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:34 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote: > > > > > > > Glad to "read you" again. You had more that one worried. Do that > > > again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone > > > knocking on your door :) > > > > Ah, a good idea! I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his > > house. Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his > > box. > > > > How the hell did you know that ?? Still need it for my dvd authoring > etc. Have the drives fallen in price in the US too ? We pay around > $370AUD and disks about $2.50 (2x). Our dollar is worth 0.654 just > now was 0.685 about a week ago. I have a psychic kangaroo in the backyard. Drives in the US are cheaper, I think even after you factor in the exchange rate. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Shane B. did it !!
On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote: > > Glad to "read you" again. You had more that one worried. Do that > again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking > on your door :) Ah, a good idea! I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his house. Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his box. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Shane B. did it !!
On Thursday 17 July 2003 04:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: > Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was > unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So > Shane asked me why I disappeared, that there were some users that > were asking what happened to me ? I was sure that I would not be > missed afer mostly lurking. Jeeze, we thought you'd gotten eaten by one of those Great Barrier Reef sharks or something. Good to see you're back! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 09:49 am, Vern W Heesch wrote: > > Ah, I see, my mistake. I thought the purpose of this list was to help > with linux related questions. I totally missed that it was here for > your amusement. And no, I am not willing to spend my time loading an > app and deleting the OT's from the server BEFORE I download my email, > just not worth the hassle. Hi guys. I'm as much responsible for this thread as anybody else so let me just throw in 2 cents. I'm not sure what the difficulty is with deleting OT mail. Of the four lists I am on, this one generates the least mail and pressing the "delete" button on OT treads or the 100 or more mail from other lists that aren't of interest to me is incredibly fast. Within one reading of a thread (SCO vs. IBM, rants about the war, the latest linuxandmain, where's Skippy, whatever) I know if I want to nuke it by default or not. No software, no filter, just the delete button in kmail. As fast as my finger can punch the button. To me, the OT stuff is often a great laugh and sometimes it's a little stupid. But that's what makes this list worth hanging around; it consists of real humans that are also real experts (me not included). By the way, did anybody find Skippy? Does not sound good. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 06:01 pm, Michael Scottaline wrote: > I guess all the > bottom feeders could be lumped together, huh? ROTFLOL "Bottom feeders" ! ! ! ! Gives the poor fish a bad name. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 03:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Tony Alfrey: > > Q. What do you call three lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? > > A start. Bingo. Actually, the way I've heard it is "A good start". - . - -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 02:07 pm, Aaron Grewell wrote: > > that having been said, top replying does suck -- it smacks of the > > overbearing fourth-grade teacher. or a lawyer or something. > I believe that this thread could easily take over the entire world, now that we've included 'lawyers' in the subject. I think it's time for a thread Lawyer Jokes. Q. What do you call three lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Custom Printing
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 02:39 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2003 0:13 am, Shawn Tayler wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:40:55 -0700 Tony Alfrey > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed: > > > - . - -. . . . . - . - .. . -. > > > - . . > > > > > > - . ...- . - > > > > Yes are al deek? > > Yes a real deek I don't believe this; I've created a monster. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Custom Printing
On Monday 30 June 2003 09:13 pm, Shawn Tayler wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:40:55 -0700 Tony Alfrey > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed: > > - . - -. . . . . - . - .. . -. - > > . . > > > > - . ...- . - > > Yes are al deek? Oh, now YOU don't get the geek award. Any TRUE code geek has had the experience of deciphering where to parse the stream. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Custom Printing
On Monday 30 June 2003 06:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Bruce Marshall: > > Didn't you mis-spell geek? (deek) (if I'm wrong on that I'm > > going to chop off my right hand) > > $ morse -s geek | tr -d '\n' | tr , ' ' ; echo > --. . . -.- > > ;-) > > Kurt Another Test Winner! And the crowd goes wild ! ! ! ! ! (but is this cheating? I think you actually have to have taken a code test at some time at at least 5 wpm to qualify). -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Custom Printing
On Monday 30 June 2003 06:00 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 30 June 2003 18:14 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Monday 30 June 2003 10:55 am, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:40:55 -0700 > > > > > > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Monday 30 June 2003 06:41 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have that affliction also... (KJ1B) Pilot too... > > > > > (am I a geek or what?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - . - -. . . . . - . - .. . - > > > > . - . . > > > > > > > > - . ...- . - > > > > > > you forgot the comma after yes > > > > You're absolutely right; it's because I'm not a big enough geek to > > remember code for comma ;-) > > Didn't you mis-spell geek? (deek) (if I'm wrong on that I'm going > to chop off my right hand) Ah Hah!! You passed my famous "Geek Test"! a) first I see who can read Morse code (of course, this is a valuable life skill these days). b) then I also throw in missing punctuation and spelling errors to see who catches them. c) then extra points are awarded for anyone willing to admit they read and corrected the test. Actually, I'm embarrased to admit that I meant to say - - . (Bandel gets honorable mention). -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Custom Printing
On Monday 30 June 2003 10:55 am, David A. Bandel wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:40:55 -0700 > > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 30 June 2003 06:41 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I have that affliction also... (KJ1B) Pilot too... (am I > > > a geek or what?) > > > > > > > > > > - . - -. . . . . - . - .. . -. - > > . . > > > > - . ...- . - > > you forgot the comma after yes You're absolutely right; it's because I'm not a big enough geek to remember code for comma ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Custom Printing
On Monday 30 June 2003 06:41 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Yes, I have that affliction also... (KJ1B) Pilot too... (am I a > geek or what?) > - . - -. . . . . - . - .. . -. - . . - . ...- . - -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linus on SCOdera vs IBM
On Monday 23 June 2003 07:40 am, Ben Duncan wrote: > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1134271,00.asp Hey you guys down under, Linus says he's gonna move to Australia! Pretty neat, huh??;-) "Your current focus is obviously on the 2.5 kernel and bug fixing so it can become 2.6. Are you still on track for a release this summer? " "I'm never on track, and maybe I'll have to move to Australia . . . . ." -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Textmaker for Linux from Softmaker software
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 02:20 pm, Harry Giles wrote: > Has anyone had any experience with these folks? How do you get them > to respond? > > I purchased the Linux CD version, they send me registration info for > Textmaker fro Windows and Pocket PC's. I email them 6 times in 2 > weeks, no response. Today I get the CD for Textmaker for Windows and > Pocket PC's (useless to me). > > Any imput appreciated. > > Harry G I use Text Maker; it's pretty decent. I had some problems getting ahold of them and when I mentioned it to them, they seemed amazed that I couldn't get ahold of them. I think they might have some dead e-mail addresses. Try this guy: Martin Kotulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and tell him I sent you. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: the latest from sco
On Friday 30 May 2003 01:20 pm, dep wrote: > darl and chris held a teleconference today. the upshot apparently is > that their basis for "enforcement" is the contracts which they have > with unix licensees. which is to say that they intend to go after > *their own customers.* if they have figured out a per-enemy payment > scheme, they'll grow rich, because they've announced essentially that > they neither have nor want any friends at all anywhere. weird. we > wrote the whole thing up. conference was three hours ago. > > http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=36 >0 "SCO has found no case in which it believes that Linux use by anyone is legal, Sontag said." Cool! I'm a criminal! Fsck 'em all! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Ditto -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compaq file system??
On Friday 28 February 2003 03:56 am, dep wrote: > > i don't suppose that you have anything like a dos machine with the > nice old dos norton utilities on it . . . this would let you take a > good look at the floppy and yank off anything that's there. We sent off all of the old machines for "recycling", which these days seems to be equivalent to contaminating third-world countries with lead. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compaq file system??
On Friday 28 February 2003 06:23 am, Net Llama! wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, dep wrote: > > i don't suppose that you have anything like a dos machine with the > > nice old dos norton utilities on it . . . this would let you take a > > good look at the floppy and yank off anything that's there. > > If dd can't find anything, then this is a media problem, and not a > filesystem problem. I just wanted all of you that helped with this disk problem to know that I, and especially my wife (whos disk we were working on), really appreciate all of your help. I usually find that I can add little to the list except to ask questions, since the rest on the list are so much more competent. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compaq file system??
On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:52 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, dep wrote: > % > % is it a 720k floppy? eons ago, those were the 3.5 floppies. > > Hey, there's a thought: > > dd if=/dev/fd0u720 of=/blah/blarg > > Kurt Geeze, you guys think of everything! But still the same results. Maybe Lonni's remark about bad media is appropriate here. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compaq file system??
On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:06 pm, dep wrote: > begin Tony Alfrey's quote: > | My wife has a conventional 3 1/2" floppy that she formatted eons > | ago on an old Compaq computer. She says > | a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM PC. > | b) floppies formatted on her Compaq could not be read on other PCs. > | > > is it a 720k floppy? eons ago, those were the 3.5 floppies. After further quizzing, the floppy seems to be about 8 years old, but . . . it says "Sony High Density MFD-2HD". I have some old 720k macintosh disks that say MFD-2DD ( "double density" ). It certainly acts like 720k (which my box also cannot open or transfer). Maybe it was formatted at 720 k. Any magic tricks in this case? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Compaq file system??
On Thursday 27 February 2003 06:57 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > Possibly. Can you dd the contents off the floppy into a file and then > poke through the file looking for the data that you want? > > $ dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/some/darn/file Looked promising, but I got dd: /dev/fd0: Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out > > I recall that early Compaqs had all manner of proprietary goober > about their systems, such as BIOS data stored in special sectors on > the hard disk, components *only* available from Compaq, and so forth. Ugh! I'm sure they're much better now that they're part of HP. Thanks! We were close, but no cigar. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Compaq file system??
Sorry about the off-topic question, but my wife will be grateful for possible help. My wife has a conventional 3 1/2" floppy that she formatted eons ago on an old Compaq computer. She says a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM PC. b) floppies formatted on her Compaq could not be read on other PCs. Sounds to me like a poorly-aligned floppy drive but maybe it's something more subtle. My box says it can't recognize the file system on the floppy (when using the 'auto' option in the mount command). Is there any possibility that the old Compaq had some wierd file system for floppies (obviously a question for the old farts among the list ;-) ). Thanks very much! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Ogg
On Sunday 23 February 2003 04:27 am, Joel Hammer wrote: > I got just one, too. I sent the original post. > Joel Bizzare! I got about 10. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ogg
On Saturday 22 February 2003 11:11 am, Joel Hammer wrote: > Question: Does anyone know where to get a plugin libvorbis.so that > works with xmms version 1.0.0 for playing ogg files ? > So so so so what's what's what's what's with with with with the the the multiple multiple multpile multiple posting posting posting posting? ? ? ? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HAPPY B-DAY KURT!
On Saturday 22 February 2003 12:38 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: > % On Friday 21 February 2003 08:34 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > % > Feigning erudition, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > % > % I know I'm probably a day late (or early) but I know it's > around % > here soon, so Happy B-Day! > % > > % > Two days early: on February 23rd, I'll be 29 again. ;-) Thanks > for % > the congratulations. My father sent his condolences. ;-) % > % Happy 29th birthday. Isn't your hair a little 'lite' for 29? > > I've been going white (not grey, white) since I was 16. Ahhh, women say that white hair makes you look distingushed. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HAPPY B-DAY KURT!
On Friday 21 February 2003 08:34 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > % I know I'm probably a day late (or early) but I know it's around > here soon, so Happy B-Day! > > Two days early: on February 23rd, I'll be 29 again. ;-) Thanks for > the congratulations. My father sent his condolences. ;-) Happy 29th birthday. Isn't your hair a little 'lite' for 29? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help-Quality Assistance
On Thursday 13 February 2003 02:09 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > I am experiencing network oddities affecting a server I've just > started colocating at a new site. > > Anyone who is willing: Please attempt to surf the following URLs and > send me the results. Thanks! > (please be sure to include your IP Range or address so I can trace > the path with the provider) > I can get to here: > http://devoured.eisgr.com/r4780y/public/NMS/UL10/ but I cannot get to here: > http://devoured.eisgr.com/r4780y/public/NMS/UL10/opennms-1.1.1/ I get a timeout error. > -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WINE HowTo
On Thursday 13 February 2003 09:21 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > FYI- > > I've seen others talk about Wine a bit on this list. I hadn't seen > this before so I thought I'd send it around. > > http://www.witch.westfalen.de/Wine-HOWTO/book1.html Thanks. Looks useful. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: minicom expert please
I'm "connected" to the serial port /dev/ttyS0 and then this is connected to either my Palm cradle or to the serial port of a microcontroller that I'm using for developing an embedded application. This happens even if the serial port COM1 (ttyS0) is not even physically connected to anything. It is very wierd. On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:04 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > I don't think that it's not the configuration, it's the communication > between the terminal emulation and the device. This happens if I > resize the window while connected to certain Cisco devices. > > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:48:09 -0800 > > Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I use minicom as a terminal emulator. I have no problem setting it > > up with minicom -s, after which I select "exit", minicom starts and > > we're off. > > But if I try to save the configuration, and then start with the > > saved configuration with > > minicom configuration > > just like the manual says, minicom starts in some sort of endless > > loop that forces the console window to expand off the desktop, > > constantly sending what looks like the character p, followed by a > > carriage return without linefeed. > > I can use it with the minicom -s trick, but this is a real PITA. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Tony Alfrey > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "I'd Rather Be Sailing" > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
minicom expert please
Hi; I use minicom as a terminal emulator. I have no problem setting it up with minicom -s, after which I select "exit", minicom starts and we're off. But if I try to save the configuration, and then start with the saved configuration with minicom configuration just like the manual says, minicom starts in some sort of endless loop that forces the console window to expand off the desktop, constantly sending what looks like the character p, followed by a carriage return without linefeed. I can use it with the minicom -s trick, but this is a real PITA. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
