Re: OT How do you spell leenix?
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:56:13 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One funny part of my computer crash. My wife called @HOME tech support (They are in Canada), since she thought it was our cable modem gone bad. They asked which OS she was using. When she said linux, they asked her to spell it. === Kinda makes ya wonder why you called tech support in the first place! ;o) Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Reading Documents with Various editors
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:22:30 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: StarOffice 6 beta is supposed to do Office 2000/xp. That and loosing its desktop are the main new features, as far as I can see. === And a whole new file system/structure. While the file systems/extensions of the entire 5.x series were compatible with each other (you could open a 5.2 .sdw file in 5.o w/o problem. 6.0's .sxw files can not be opened by the 5.x series (though 6.0 c CAN save in that format. The new filesystem appears to be quite compressed. Files that used to take up 88k now take up about 9k. Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Reading Documents with Various editors
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:25:21 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh boy. It sounds like they are going for nifty features in place of what most users really want, no hassles and standardization. It is to be hoped that they will supply a patch for 5.x that will allow opening and saving of documents in the new format. After all, 5.x is very nice, and maybe a lot of users feel no great need to upgrade. = Not that big a deal. 6.0 can be set by DEFAULT to save everything in the old format, thus leaving the user with trouble free total compatability with 5.x users. I simply gives the option of using a new system that evidently has other advantages (web publishing, I *think* beyond the compression factor. Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:36:16 -0600 daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? === Some one has gotten control of your box and has root access. Others will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong and offer saner advice, but this may be one situation where a COMPLETE re-install *might* be required. Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Reading Documents with Various editors
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:12 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: BTW, I used staroffice 5.2, not 5.3. I don't know if there is a 5.3. Joel = was gonna ask about that ;o) BTW, I'll bet 6.0 will do even better, and .xlm compressed format saves even more space. If you have the 6.0 beta, it might make an interesting experiment shrug Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:29:04 -0800 (PST) Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into single user run mode? id:5:initdefault: = At the boot prompt type: linux 1 or linux single Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XFree86
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:24:12 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled informatively: Truth be told, i haven't seen any real performance or feature benefit going from 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 on that 1 box. I will note that i did see a significant improvement going from 3.3.6 to 4.1.0 on my Caldera box and my redhat box. === I think the advertised benefit going from 4.1 - 4.2 is not so much improved performance, but better syupport for some older video cards that haven't been supported since 3.3.6. Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 22:49:45 -0600 daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: OK this is what I did. Booted up into single user mode Reset the passwords for the users Rebooted in the previously broken system Logged in as if nothing had happened. So I have cured the symptom but still don't have any clue as to what the cause was. I'll check my /var/log for any hints that I was broken into. This is a good time for me to review my security. Thanks Llama for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks everyone else for giving me input. You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: new ibm ad
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:55:27 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] bemusedly noted: new ibm linux ad, based on basketball: how can anybody that good play for peanuts? loves the game. just now on of all places the weather channel. === Yeah, ibm has done a pretty fair job lately of putting linux before the public and using sports analogies (especially during sports shows). I certainly doesn't hurt the public's perception of Linux to have ibm in such a supportive role (regardless of their motivations...) Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:09:54 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: I am about to blow my uptime to throw another NIC into my box, 8^( snippage 6:30pm up 187 days, 9:24, 12 users, load average: 2.39, 2.28, 1.80 ___ Hey Bill, Why not wait just two weeks and put yourself over the 200 day mark? ;o) Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:17:56 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] cried out in frustration: In my life I have tried many things, have had many successes and a few failures. Well I am going to express a failure here, please I beg you not to be too harsh on me, I feel bad enoughg. I had a conversation with my grown son last night, was not real intelligent, oh well that is another issue. He was spouting the virtures of Windows, Office XP etc. I tried to explain the cost difference, availiablity and the ease of keeping your system in top computing shape. His answer, I do not have time for that crap. Where did I go wrong here? I feel so ashamed, violatedg. Someday maybe he will realize his errors and return to the fold. Actually a friend of his put XP on a machine has had nothing but problems ever since. I would think he would have gotten the message. What is a dad to do? = This is what happens when we spare the strap, Rick! ;o) Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:43:06 - kriss rolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled greedily: These are the items that iam interested in selling.. Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc. are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc bullsh#t snipped PLONK!! What happened here Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: IHOP OT
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:59:51 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care. Kurt = Please do. Inquiring minds want to know ;o) Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: New Address, Job OT
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:07:17 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their APIs and other development and programming tools. For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will continue to function. = Well, Best of Luck with the new position and the new living quarters. I hope you're happy with the change. Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:00:01 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on these lists getting together? If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think? = In OZ, Canada, or US?? Or perhaps some other location?? ;o) Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: DVD drives: recommendations?
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:31:42 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Greetings, I have the opportunity to acquire this DVD drive: http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/discont_prod/03dis_ramrom/disdvd_rom/halp-ZZZAR20RXSC.html Looking at the specs, to my untrained eyes, it looks like this beast can act as a 20x CDROM drive, as well as a DVD-ROM drive. Yes, and a burner also, I think. My only understanding about DVD drives in Linux is that they are similar to CD burners, in that they are seen as SCSI devices (if the drive has an IDE interface on it). So, once I get the SCSI emulation bits inline, its just a matter of installing xine, and i'm good to go? You may wish to recomplile the kenrel with scsi emulation built in and then edit lilo so that it will see the new device as one requiring scsi emulation. /etc/fstab MAY automagically self-edit for the new device, believe it or not. Other than (obviously) needing a DVD drive, are there any videocard or soundcard requirements, or is anything fair game? None that I know of, but I installed linux (RH7.2) with the device already present and most/all was done without my interference.~Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 19 msgs
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:11:44 +1000 Lavinius Romio Petru [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in amusement: Mayday, Called Some Experts Mad Consultants Slurping Ethanol Major snippage = Yes!! A Keeper!!! Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:49:09 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: On Wednesday 16 January 2002 13:24, Tim Wunder Sarpend his Quill and: However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with ext3 partitions. But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition ext2 without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2 and the rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition? Just asking... Tim Does not work that way mate...In Suse you either have it as ext2 or ext3. If its ext3 you cannot turn it back to ext2 without formatting AFAIK. Hey Skippy, Now I'm confused (well..., I usually am). I *thought* one of the supposed virtues of ext2/ext3 was the ability to change on the fly from one to the other with the approrpiate adjustments to /etc/fstab, so long as ext3 support had been compiled into the kernel. shrug Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Testing: Ignore OT
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:39:39 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Joel Hammer managed to emit: Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this would be filled with misinformation. Consider yourself ignored. ;-) Kurt === Here we go... ;o) Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: Testing: Ignore
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:12:10 -0800 Robert L. Hemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled wittily: Not quite kosher, but is this worth 1000 words? Bob === I'm speechless!! Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +0530 zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be able to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to brought a external modem . In all this I am confused. Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ? == It's likely that your internal modem is a winmodem; so many of them are these days on new machines, unless you have the OEM customize somehow. You should try to find out precisely which modem it is that you have (you can find out in Windows) and then check the supported list at linmodems.com. If you don't mind popping for the few bucks for an external, I'd recommend that root (as opposed to getting a software based modem working). Just be sure it's a serial port external as oppossed to a USB (many of which are also software based). You won't regret having an external, I assure you. Mike -- Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and persuade themselves that they have a better idea. -- John Ciardi ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:20:34 -0500 Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know just take a couple:). Randy LOL!!! No comment... Mike -- It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting. --U.S. Marine Corp. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:40:56 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: That any brain cells survived is fscking amazing. You mean there were survivors |:-) Mike -- It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting. --U.S. Marine Corp. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:46 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in ultimate sarcasm: --- Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean there were survivors |:-) I survived the 70s just fine, at age 5. === You're a riot, Lonni..., a regular riot grumble...grumble. Mike -- Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and persuade themselves that they have a better idea. -- John Ciardi ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape 6.2 Composer
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:18:10 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Netscape 6.2 is working fine as a browser. email is not working quite right. I just tried the newest Opera on the SxS web site. It crashed when I tried to search the site. Joel H., Odd. I just tried browsing through the SxS for about 10 minutes, using Opera 6.0TP and didn't encounter that problem. Ran a search and that seemed to work fine also. shrug Which version of Opera were you using? Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape 6.2 Composer
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:41:41 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: I am using the latest version. I suspect that a lot of such crashes are due to java, which may not be working quite right, although, I don't have such problems with netscape 6.2. Often, a repeat attempt at such a site with opera is successful, so, this is a sporadic but common problem for me when I use opera. Joel == Yup..., likely due to its being a TP (beta). Hopefully when the 6.0 final is released for linux, this problem will have been dealt with. Mike -- It is God's job to forgive bin Laden. It is our job to set up the meeting. --U.S. Marine Corp. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux takeup
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:44:52 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:30, Michael Scottaline wrote: Do you happen to know what is used in their schools (or gymnasiums). No. I didn't look at this area. I'd only be guessing if I said anything. However, Europeans are xenophobic about Microsoft, particularly the French. One of the reasons for SuSE's popularity there, perphaps THE reason for it's popularity, is it is seen as non-American (versus Redhat). BTW there's a world of difference being protective or supportive of non-american product, versus being anti-american. The latter is not the case. == Agreed! I've never found even the French (notoroius *false* reputation as Anti-American) at all Anti. In fact, I felt quite comfortable even in Paris. I have to admit, I felt like an actual honored guest, as an American, in UK and the Netherlands, though. ;o) Mike PS: Hope everyone is enjoying a wonderful holiday season!! -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Will they recommend LINUX????
Perhaps they'll urge Americans to switch to a safer OS ;-) Merry Christmas to all!! Mike FBI URGES FURTHER STEPS TO SAFEGUARD WINDOWS XP Consumers and corporations using Microsoft Corp.'s new Windows XP software are being warned by the FBI to take added steps against hackers who might try to take advantage of major flaws. http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/12/23/microsoft.hackers.ap/index.html -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] testing my smtp
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:41:46 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: testing Passed... Next?! -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test OT
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:27:10 -0800 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Please ignore. === sigh Now you've gone and done it! ;o) Let's see how long this thread gets, even after OTing it... g Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: testing here too...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:39:49 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: cant seem to get anything to lists... === This one got through... Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:19:16 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:42:17 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. As I read this, I'm sitting in a darkened room munching MMs and listening to my favorite album over and over again. ??? David A. Bandel == Dark Side of the Moon??? How'd you guess? And more specifically, Comfortably Numb (my wife hates this song, but it's my favorite). Ciao, David A. Bandel Can't believe my wild guess actually hit the mark !! :o) A noted author, systems administrator par excellence, linux teacher (well I've learned much from your contributions ;-) ), cultivator of Panamanian soil, and your favorite album is about madness. Is there a common thread here?? g Happy Holiday to you and yours, David! Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux takeup
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:05:21 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I've just come back from the Netherlands and I think many of you would be interested in the following (mercifully brief) observations I made while there. Europeans on this list would correct me, but these are impressions from an outsider. major snippage Average stocking on shelves was 3 x XP 5 x Suse 1 x Redhat It would be trite to say Windoze wasn't in the running. The massive games stockpile underpin it. But, the exposure to Linux was in your face and self evident. = Verrry interesting, Mike. Thanks for the observations. I wonder what the feed back from our European friends on the list will be like. Do you happen to know what is used in their schools (or gymnasiums). I don't mean universities, or IT schools, but their regular high schools. What do their students get used to using? One of te key to MS success in the US is the near ubiquitous presence in the school systems [yes some schools use Macs, but increasingly it seems many more are moving to M$. I know; I've been working in the public school system for 28 years. Only the really interested computer types can be pursuaded to try linux (I have a few). Just my US$0.02, Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:36:55 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Alfrey babbled on about: Happy Birthday! I missed the start of the thread, but did someone say how old you are or do we really want to know? a ripe old 28 years today (dec 18) = Ouch! I was already legal by the time you were born! grrrumbbbllle; miserabl...; sonofa. stomps off ;-) Happy Birthday!! SCORES more!! Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:47:48 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 11:39 am,Douglas J. Hunley wrote: snip . Every single app and frontend worked flawlessly. Litterally less than 20 minutes to a 100% stable 100% functional linux system. Not even a single additional program is needed to be totally functional. A great deal of polish went into this distro and it shows. snip Who can argue with this? I'll put it on my wife's machine and see if she notices the difference between win 98 ;-) She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms. === Please shut down the webcam when she thrashes you. I hate when that happens ;o) Seriously, let us know how the experiment turns out. Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:01:48 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 08:52 am,Ian wrote: Douglas J Hunley wrote: Tony Alfrey babbled on about: Happy Birthday! I missed the start of the thread, but did someone say how old you are or do we really want to know? a ripe old 28 years today (dec 18) You old fogey...I'm not 28 for another 3 months! Errr...sorry, I take the fogey comment back...repsect for elders and all! Didn't we decide a very long while back (on the caldera list) that David Bandel was the old fogey? That MUST have been *before* Skippy joined!! |:-) Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:39:21 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: % % Didn't we decide a very long while back (on the caldera list) that % David Bandel was the old fogey? I don't remember that conversation... Kurt = Guess you're too old... ducks and runs Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: ssh public key TID
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:01:36 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Errr,erm, what is coal and where does it plug into a computer, is it plug and play ? Sorry, Skippy. It's just for us BlackBox users. ducks; runs for cover Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:09:48 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated: What if I have a dish washer? Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I cannot seem to get a trade-in. === Hey, Skippy, Bet you never let your bride read this stuff, huh?? Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Thanks. Anita Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users are welcome. Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: USB Zip drive on RH 7.2
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:16:22 +0100 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] shutdown that I notice a difficulty. BTW, the device will not work if connected at boot-up. It must be connected (or unplugged and re-connected) following boot up to work. would you mind posting output of lsmod please, the OS you are using (SuSE eg) and the trailing lines of /etc/rc.local thanks. = The only uncommented line in /etc/rc.local is: touch /var/lock/subsys/local lsmod's output: nls_iso8859-1 nls_cp437 sd_mod vfat fat usb-storage sr_mod i810_audio ac97_codec soundcore i810 agpgart binfmt_misc ds yenta_socket pcmcia_core autofs eepro100 appletalk ipx ide-scsi My OS is Red Hat 7.2 (subject line ;-) ) Thanks for any help you ca offer, Mike! Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: USB Zip drive on RH 7.2
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:16:22 +0100 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would you mind posting output of lsmod please, the OS you are using (SuSE eg) and the trailing lines of /etc/rc.local === Damn!! I left off the last few lines of lsmod in previous message: scsi_mod ide-cd cdrom usb-uhci usbcore ext3 jbd Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
USB Zip drive on RH 7.2
I have a Sony Vaio running RH 7.2. The laptop has a CD-W/DVD and I believe during installation this was detected and SCSI support was included in the kernel. I've added a USB external Zip drive that is recognized on a hot plugin. I edited /etc/fstab by adding the line /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipautonoauto,user,kudzu 0 0 The disk does mount but when I shutdown, there seems to be a problem with USB support, where it hangs for a few MINUTES before quickly posting an error message (something about a new address being rejected) and then shutting down normally. Problem with my /fstab entry? While I'm up and running the device seems to work OK. I'm able to copy files to the disk (though it does appear a bit slow to respond). It's only on the shutdown that I notice a difficulty. BTW, the device will not work if connected at boot-up. It must be connected (or unplugged and re-connected) following boot up to work. Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated. TIA, Mike -- We Americans, we're a simple people... but piss us off, and we'll bomb your cities. -- Robin Williams, _Good Morning Vietnam_ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more KDE build problems
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:33:29 -0700 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:15:15 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:25:46 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, i give up. I'm descending into RPM dependency hell here, where each level gets uglier than the last. I think this is a sign that KDE isn't for me. KDE 2.x.x isn't something I'd want to cuddle up next to either. XFCE is a beauty to behold, and a joy to build. XFCE forever Amen! == One of the beauties of linux, generally, is choice (freedom). Long live Blackbox!! ;o) Mike -- Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and persuade themselves that they have a better idea. -- John Ciardi ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:03:16 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this is what I do. All of the groups I subscribe to have a filter to separate folder. The only thing that shows up in my inbox is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. == There's a difference ducks; runs ;-) Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printer Recommendations
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:38:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone care to recommend their favorite Linux-compatible color inkjet printer? I'm in the market for a new one. I don't *have* to own a color printer, but it would be nice. If a good yet inexpensive laser printer can be had for under $300, that would be nice, too. == I get very nice results from my HP DeskJet 695c. I doubt it's available as it's about 3 years old, but I mention it because there MAY be recent HP DeskJets that will work well also. Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Connection
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:54:31 +0800 aong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is the first time I tried red hat. I was able to install 7.1 successfully. However, the problem I am encountering is connecting to the internet. I used kde as default and kppp to connect to the internet. I can sucessfully establish a connection with my isp but somehow can not ping anyone beyond myself. I know it is not the problem of the isp as everything work well when I use my caldera 3.1 Any clue as to what I did wrong on my red hat installation. I have never ventured into other distro except for caldera. = Could be a dns problem. Have you checked /etc/resolv.conf?? Is it set up appropriately? Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] FAQ
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:50:21 +0100 Oliver Ob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Indeed I keep getting feedback of people asking why I am no longer on the german Suse list. But all those german NET-FASCISTS who insist on inquisitory rules such as obey to our non-suse, but mega-netiquette or be banned of list with plum plonk snippage But what a beginner really needs is like 1. How to FAST setup my Netscape to work - analoque/ISDN - parallely with the mails I have under Windoze 2. How to get a little DOS-feeling (console commands) 3. What applications can I use example: XMMS like Winamp/Sonique Mutt/Netscape instead of Locked-off (outlook) and so forth. *** I suggest we collect like questions we find useful to newbies and then see what we have got and compile that. Beginners do learn. But what they do not intend to read is a fucking self-made ego-netiquette. snip for sake of bandwith Yes, this list is most helpful and very newbie friendly. An additinal newbie friendly list, with an excellent SxS written for newbies, about a variety of linux topics, can be found at http://linux.nf The SxS (step by step) is written by list members, posted after peer review. At most a newbie might be politely pointed at that site for a more detailed explanation of how to do what they want. It's truly a step-by-step, rather than a bloated how-to. Might be similar to what you are suggesting. Mike -- No woman ever falls in love with a man unless she has a better opinion of him than he deserves. -- Edgar Watson Howe ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:16:56 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, list, I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements. = Kurt, I recently installed RH 7.2 on a sony Vaio laptop (FX340). I'm afraid I had no problems, thus none to share. Absolutely everything worked right out of the box, NIC, video, audio, CD (burner and DVD, though I haven't tried in that mode yet). Suggestion: Have you tried posting a similar request to the RedHat list?? Or perhaps a scan of their archives?? I recently joined the list and it appears to be fairly active. I'm sure you'd get some hits. Just my US$0.02, Mike -- A world where some live in comfort and plenty, while half of the human race lives on less than $2 a day, is neither just, nor stable. -PRESIDENT BUSH (dubya) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sony Vaio laptop
I had asked for some advice last week about dealing with pre-installed Windows XP on a laptop I was considering purchasing. If anyone is curious, I had NO problems. The Vaio FX340 came with Windows XP on the C: drive (approximately 6.5 gig) and a virtually empty D: drive formatted NTFS. I just eliminated D: and formatted for my ext3 and swap partitions in the empty space. RH 7.2 installed flawlessy and on intial boot, X, sound, and everything else I've tried thus far just worked. I'm planning on adding an additional 256M or RAM (about US$60) to the 128 on board. That should have it running real comfortably ;o) Thanks for the responses I did get. they were helpful in making my decision. Mike -- One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the mind, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God. -- J. Gustav White ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sony Vaio laptop
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:08:43 -0800 (PDT) stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent news Mike. Good to know! Stayler == Thanks Shawn, Heck, it even set up my CD burner as an ide-scsi device. I had even forgotten that the darn thing came with a DVD/CR-W (instead of an ordinary CD-ROM) and couldn't figure out, at first, why it was setting up the ide-scsi routine on installation. Whew! Very hands-off shrug Take Good Care, Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:02:14 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: Anybody there? Just us refugees ;o) -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, mid 16th century, Estonia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: url help OT
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:19:12 -0600 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KW Indeed. But I've got the design skills of a box of rocks, so I've no KW room to talk. === Kurt, Would those be igneous, or metamorphic Mike -- No one man, however brilliant or well-informed, can come in one lifetime to such a fullness of understanding as to safely judge and dismiss the customs or institutions of his society, for these are the wisdom of the generations after centuries of experiment in the laboratory of history. -- Will Durant ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: testing linux-users
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:10:31 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleverly noted: Douglas J. Hunley babbled: please ignore nobody ever does... == I didn't :o) -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: one final try
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:44:28 -0600 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleverly noted: Douglas J. Hunley wrote: % this should do it And if it doesn't? What doesn't??? ;-) -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #164 - 45 msgs
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:30:33 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KA On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 02:50, you wrote: KA dragonsfireburns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and quoted KA 110kb's KA of text to write a few lines way down in about the middle of those KA hundreds of lines of text. WTF were you thinking? You've earned a KA spot - KA right at the top - of my killfile. PLONK!! KA KA pissed off? you bet! KA KA The guy is obviuosly a winders refugee, like our boat people, he KA hasn't a clue KA about edoing things correctly and editting mail. I also have KA banned him landing. Wonder whether he will apologise ?? = If he does, guess you'll miss it, Skippy. Me too; sending his stuff to /dev/null ;o) Mike -- No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution. Machiavelli from _The Art of War_ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Security discussion anyone?
dep on computer security vigilance: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3784/1/ -- No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution. Machiavelli from _The Art of War_ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New York WTCTID
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:46:45 -0700 (PST) Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: ST ST I hearby envoke the Neticate rule that a thread be immediately ST terminated upon mention of the H word ST ST stayler === Dammit Shawn, Who do you think you are, Hitler??? ;-) Mike -- One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the mind, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God. -- J. Gustav White ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WTC
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:23:08 +0800 Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: AL Mind sending it to me so I can show to some of my friends in China? AL AL Auyeung AL - Original Message - AL ???: Bruce Marshall AL ???: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AL : 2001?9?15? AM 02:17 AL ??: WTC AL AL AL I have received a 40+ picture slide show of many events during the AL attack. Most of the pictures are excellent. If anyone would like AL me to AL send it to you, or if someone wants to put it on an ftp site, I AL would be AL glad to pass it on. AL AL StarOffice will show it just fine. Don't know about other KDE apps. = I must have recieced the same one from a former student of mine, now a C3C at the air Force Academy. I think it's a Powerpoint presentation, but yes, SO plays it flawlessly! I'm forwarding it to Auyeung. Mike -- One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the mind, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God. -- J. Gustav White ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help starting KDE2.2 OT TID
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:25:20 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: do have a couple more off at the agent right now, though, both of which would surprise you. and no, neither is entitled shipwrecked cheerleaders. == h, but do let us know when you've completed that one, dep.. ;-) Mike -- Music in the soul can be heard by the universe. -- Lao Tsu ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gnome lost sawfish!
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:42:40 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KM I'm using redhat 7.1 with gnome/sawfish, and somehow, sawfish crashed, KM and KM now when I boot gnome I get an error, You are not using a gnome KM compliant KM window manager It looks like no window manager. Quite a mess on the KM screen. Does anyone have a clue how to restore sawfish or use KM enlightenment? I'd try installing xfce, but would like to know what KM the KM problem is here first. KM tia KM again... I haven't used gnome in a very long time, but isn't there an applet in the panel (looks like a tool box, I believe) for gnome configuration? I believe you can choose a window manager there (usually sawfish, enlightenment and icewm are among the listed options IIRC). HTH, Mike -- Music in the soul can be heard by the universe. -- Lao Tsu ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New York WTC
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:10:47 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Kabul is apparently under some kind of attack. CNN reports explosions and anti-aircraft fire. Could be some of their own citizens who object to the Taliban have decide to do a little terrorist action on their own, or it could just be guilt inspired Taliban trigger fingers. They may burn the whole place down oin their own. Yes..., I hear they've done tens of dollars of damage to Kabul ;-) Mike -- Music in the soul can be heard by the universe. -- Lao Tsu ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WTC
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:10:10 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: JH As I recall, the Shah developed lymphoma and came to the US for JH treatment. The Islamic govt of Iran threatened to attack Americans JH if we did not surrender him to their regime. I remember well JH Senator Kennedy (still in office) JH suggesting that we do just that. == Wht do you expect from MaryJo's executioner??? :o) Mike -- Music in the soul can be heard by the universe. -- Lao Tsu ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New SxS ?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:16:52 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: snip It's hard and requires a talent for high farce, but try to put yourself in the Redmond mindset - think like Fuzzy Allchin or Thickasa Bollard: - It is Microsoft's Constitutional right and God-given destiny to dominate the computer industry... it's the American Way. - After all, Bill Gates really invented the PC and the whole industry, after IBM, Steve Jobs and Texas Instruments screwed it up... so it's our football and our sandbox. - Why would any one want to use anything else, when it's obviously inferior... after all, it isn't Microsoft. - If you have coded anything to run on a PC, then obviously you are either stealing our code, or trespassing on our turf. - These Linux fanatics are unAmerican, tofu-eating, birkenstock-wearing socialist commies who haven't grown up yet. They don't know what the real world is - it's Microsoft. - Businesses that have adopted Linux have been misled by Linux Lies(tm) and disinformation spread by a few pony-tailed fuzzy-thinking jobless parasites. It's not their fault. It is our mission to educate them so they can rejoin the real world and pay licence fees like evgeryone else... after all, it's for their own good. Along a similar vein, Microsoft took out a double page ad in last month's Linux magazine - a first ever. When asked by LM why they were doing this, Redmond reportedly replied that it finally occured to them that hadn't done a good job of explaining to folks that Microsoft really was the best software around. As a result, a few businesses such as ISPs had strayed to the dark side. Their aim was to set the record straight so these folks could return to the fold, thus putting the galaxy back in balance. Oooohh!! Now I get it!!! Thanks for `splaining it to us Burns. ;o) Mike -- I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Tom Waits ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:22:18 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: That didn't help your older son. he's still using M$. Your older son should have demonstrated Netscape for Win32, not IE/OE. :) = He only uses M$ when he's already in there for Diablo II or some other such game that has not yet been ported to Linux. Otherwise he's a KDE (occasionally enlightenment) user when he's working on the computer. I'm not sure which browser he was showing her. I think she just didn't like the interface of Windows shrug Mike -- I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Tom Waits ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:56:56 -0500 Jim Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: Here's another great article by dep. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3751/1/ I agree, it's a very well done article. No surprise there! I've helped 2 of my friends install Caldera eD2.4. One is using it on a sporadic basis, just testing the waters, not doing anything critical yet. He's hooked on Shisen-Sho though. And the other claims he doesn't have the time to learn it. Another of my friends wants to try a dual-boot on his machine when he has to format/re-install windows next time. Most of the people that I know know that I run a Linux distro. I've had them ask plenty of questions about it. I've tried to answer them to the best of my ability. I've only been running eD2.4 since April 2000 and I've seen Linux grow by leaps and bounds. I tell most people that if Linux doesn't do what you want now, wait 6 months and it probably will(unless you are a programmer and want to code it yourself). A few months ago, my father-in-law (aged 76) purchased his first computer. He had never really used one and thus was/is a TOTAL newbie. He and my sister-in-law got together and decided to buy from Dell. Not bad, but I cautioned tham to refuse ME (get 98 instead), refuse the MSN deal, and insist on a real modem. Well they followed non of these suggestions, and now I'm stuck helping him with his worthless OS and even more hideous ISP (MSN.com). The more I think about it though, the more I wish I had just installed a linux distro on the damn thing and been done with it. He was starting from *0* knowledge anyway. why not teach him linux (purely as a user at first - I would have retained root privileges for myself, until he was able to assume that responsibility). From a pure user perspective, IMHO opinion, linux is at least as easy (perhaps easier) to learn as windoze. And without the M$ _pre-conditoining_ I believe it's probably also easier for the user to learn how the system actually operates. My bride (or over 20 years ;o) ) never really used a computer until she took a position as a teachers' assistant at a local elementary school. She learned to e-mail on their imacs and execute some other simple computer tasks. At home she now uses linux to write things, browse the web and manage her e-mail. One day, my older son was trying to show her how to do such things in win98. Ultimately she just became exasperated and declared, Get me out of here and boot linux please. I just don't get windows!! I took her to dinner hehehe Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT stock market OT TID
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:46:40 -0600 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleverly noted: Howdy, Calamity! Good to see you're still kickin' around. How's that wayward husband o' yours? = Uh-oh.., Calamity's back?? Prolly here to talk down to all the men, bein' real condescending and... woops... is that my wife callin' again. gotta go ;o) Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
laptop - dialup and lan connection
I have a laptop [500mhz Celeron w 256mb RAM] that I used to connect via an external modem (the builtin is a winmodem) to my ISP. Several months ago, I bought a pcmcia ethernet card and have been connecting via my office lan. Obviously my /etc/resolv.conf now reflects that connection. If I were to use this laptop at home and connect via my external modem again, could I simply add the approrpriate info in kppp (rather than re-edit my /etc/resolv.conf) and have the connection read that info as long as I'm connected via kppp, or would that re-write my /etc/resolv.conf necessitating constant editing of that file whenever I connect via the other way (kppp v. ethernet card). I've never added all of the networking info to kppp. Usually I just give it my isp's phone #, my login name, and password, and let the network connection read from resolv.conf Anyone ever do what I'm asking about??? Thanks, Mike -- Always remember, I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. --Winston Churchill ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptop - dialup and lan connection
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:37:11 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: MA On Saturday 25 August 2001 23:38, Michael Scottaline wrote: MA I have a laptop [500mhz Celeron w 256mb RAM] that I used to connect MA via an MA MA [snip] MA MA if I understood correctly, the answer is that kppp will add, and MA subsequently MA remove it's definition of a default route to /etc/resolv.conf when it MA is in MA use. = Thanks Mike. that's pretty much what I figured, but glad you've confirmed my hunch. Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: automount not working
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:17:53 -0400 blumagic [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Hi All, I have just installed RH7.1 on linux partition of a dual boot system. I am having a problem with accessing my floppy and zip drives. I also cant access my windows C D E and F drives either. My cdrom is mounted and I can access it from the command line. When I type the mount command I get: /dev/hdb4 on / type ext2 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) automount(pid748) on /misc type autofs (rw,fd=5,pgrp=748,minproto=2,maxproto=3) blumagic:(pid814) on /net type nfs (intr,rw,port=1023,timeo=8,retrans=110,indirect,map=/etc/amd.net,dev=0008) /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,user=blu) My /etc/fstab looks like this: LABEL=/ / ext2defaults 1 1 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,rw0 0 == Change owner to user What command are you issuing to mount your zip drives [mount /mnt/zip]?? I see no mention of your windows drives in /etc/fstab. You may need to create mount points for those individual partitions. === none/proc procdefaults 0 0 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/hdb3 swapswapdefaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/zipext2 noauto,rw,user,exec 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/doszip vfat noauto,rw,user,exec 0 0 Any help as to what I am doing wrong or have setup wrong would be appreciated. Leslie... === What does you /etc/mtab file say?? Mike -- Always remember, I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. --Winston Churchill ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I installed kde2.2
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:04:17 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: big snip KA As I replied to Shawn I disliked the way Star took over the desktop KA just to KA write a letter, plus its bloated like M$ Word. Just migght take a loo KA at it KA though. = I *think* v 6.0 is supposed to be more componentized (Yes Keith, I did just make that word up, but I think you get the picture ;o) ) You should be able to open just one specific app (wp, or spreadsheet, or whatever) w/o open the whole program and thus the new, unwanted desktop. That will probably be true of the Open Source version also (OpenOffice) when it is finally released. Take Care, Mike -- Always remember, I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. --Winston Churchill ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can send with KMail
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:59:41 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Mike, No go, didn't work Keith B. = Try: smtp.vww.com = OK, try smtp.mail.vww.com Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: delete email from server
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:57:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Neither. I use KMail all the time. I'm finding it more pretty than useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client. I've been playing with Althea lately but have heard of one from the Kompany called Aethera (or something like that), which is supposed to include some PIM stuff as well. = Matt, Try sylpheed. It's at www.good-day.net Does imap, pop, and allows mulitple smtp accounts for outgoing. Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: icewm
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:30:19 +0800 Auyeung at Technet [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: AT Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like AT it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? == I've toyed with it briefly in my search for a simple, fast, lightweight wm. Reminded me more of win9x than anything else I've played with. I've finally settled on BlackBox (for about a year now). It might be the lightest, fastest of them all. Understated elegance ;-) Just my US$0.02, YMMV, Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
dep says it's soup ;-)
I honestly can't believe the secretaries in my office would be stumped trying to use a linux desktop. No, no one is going to ask them to download, untar, unzip, ./configure, etc. But, hey, they don't do that now with windows. I believe anyone beyond the level of *complete idiot* can sit in front of KDE or gnome, and with the very briefest of intros, be able to use linux for most office type work. And, dep says we may well be there [Hey dep, I used your name cause I figured it would carry more weight than mine ;-) ] http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3705/1/ Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:27:08 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: DH I wanted to take a moment to let everyone know that we have lost some DH list DH members because of the posting of a nude (though tastfull IMHO) DH picture. A DH couple of people have also indicated the references to sexual DH interaction w/ DH animals to be pushing it. DH DH So, let's move the converstaion back to Linux shall we everyone? DH And no more nudes! I'll have to unsub any future offenders. = Thanks for the warning Doug. I posted the, evidently, offending photo (though one did *have to* purposely open it - unless of course one is using one of those _other_ readers). I apologize again. Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:04:00 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: MG Can I be offended? MG MG Oh, I should *think* so... I know I was snif, snif until an un-named MG saviour sent it to me thereby giving me the oportunity to be offended MG in MG the proper mam.. err.. manner =) = Uh-oh. You're pushing it again, Myles ;o) -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Re: test-please ignore TID
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:45:21 -0600 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KW [cough, sputter] KW KW Lord have mercy; to be 21 again... KW KW I'm as far from being prude as my Jewish sister-in-law KW is from attending Mass, but I do think this photo was KW perhaps best sent directly rather than via the list. KW KW Kurt Sorry about that sheepish grin I thought the same thing about 2 seconds after hitting ctrl+s. Well one DID have to click on the attachment ;o) Mike -- Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings They did it by killing all those who opposed them. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test-please ignore
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:30:27 -0600 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KW In the last episode, we heard easwari say: KW test KW KW Note the date: Thu, Jan 01, 1998. KW KW Kurt === Wow!! Even snail mail *might* have been faster, no Kurt??? Mike -- No woman ever falls in love with a man unless she has a better opinion of him than he deserves. -- Edgar Watson Howe ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:08:19 +1000 Anthony Joshua Brow [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: AB AB AB AB G'day Ladies/Gents, AB AB Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ? AB As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails AB installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the AB Netscape window AB the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that AB I cannot receive or send any email AB I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working AB allright. AB I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the AB SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape). AB I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for AB this Mandrake-Linux 8.0 AB I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn AB AB Thank you in advance AB AB Tony Brow (joshua) = Have you actually set up the mail program?? Go into edit- preferences - mail, and set up the necessary pop and smtp information. this might be necessary to create the required folders to get you started. It is a somewhat limited mailer program, but if you only have one pop account to worry about, it'll work OK (for Netscape ;-) ) HTH, Mike -- If a man loses his reverence for any part of life, he will lose his reverence for all of life. -- Albert Schweitzer ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Me, or them?
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:14:18 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: MA On Wednesday 08 August 2001 04:43, Richard Thompson wrote: MA I've been having a recurring problem accessing the internet on my MA eD2.4 MA box. I dial up and get a network connection just fine - only no MA data MA MA [snip] MA MA without knowing wich dialler you are using kppp? it's hard to go MA further. MA MA you are _probably_ not setting the default route (or allowing the MA program you MA use, to do so). You have different ip numbers assigned to you MA depending on MA your login. The work account, is _probably_ a fixed one and you have MA hardwired the gateway, to it. MA MA if you're using kppp (for instance) MA MA setup-(account)-edit-Gateway assign ip address to gateway is MA first port MA of call. == Might also try editing /etc/resolv.conf (as root, of course). Add the lines: search your isp nameserver dns # nameserver dns # HTH, Mike -- If a man loses his reverence for any part of life, he will lose his reverence for all of life. -- Albert Schweitzer ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /tmp full
On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 08:38:34 -0600 (CST) Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: Quoting Mark Heinrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full. I deleted the files that I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still getting an error that my /tmp is full. How can I see how much space /tmp has allocated and how much is free? How can I increase the amount of space /tmp has? TIA Mark If /tmp is on a seperate partition, 'df' will show you the free space on all your partitions. If /tmp is part of your / partition, you may have some work ahead of you. Assuming you have space on your HD, head to the SxS and look up PARTITIONS. How about cd /tmp du Won't that tell the original poster how much of his /tmp is being used? Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTDell.au not dumping Linux on desktops
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: NL I, for one, am not the least bit dismayed. It makes sense. In fact, NL Dell is truly one of the last major vendors to drop Linux on the NL desktop. AFAIK, IBM is the only one remaining. But there are quite a few smaller companies, seemingly making money, still putting Linux on the desktop, as well as servers. Is VA still selling linux on the desktop, or only on servers, while moving over the the service field? Mike -- I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science. -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I have returned
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:43:20 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: KA Shorts, thongs and a singlet were the order of the day. KA KA -- KA Keith Antoine aka Skippy = H., you're not posting any photos of yourself in a thong, are you??? ;-) Welcome back Keith!! Mike -- A world where some live in comfort and plenty, while half of the human race lives on less than $2 a day, is neither just, nor stable. -PRESIDENT BUSH (dubya) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Testing, ignore
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:00:43 -0400 Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: Just testing. My last attempt at posting was bounced for relaying denied. Sigh. Phil = This one got through [obviously ;-) ] Mike -- A world where some live in comfort and plenty, while half of the human race lives on less than $2 a day, is neither just, nor stable. -PRESIDENT BUSH (dubya) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Test
Hoping I can FINALLY get through!! Darn orbl! Mike -- A world where some live in comfort and plenty, while half of the human race lives on less than $2 a day, is neither just, nor stable. -PRESIDENT BUSH (dubya) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Test
Testing to see if this gets through. I've had some problems posting and responding in the last two days. Mike Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took [place there. --Baldasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th century _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera postscript output fails with ghostscript and ghostview
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 01:27:39 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: On Monday 16 July 2001 19:44, Joel Hammer wrote: I can't print with opera on my linux box. It is printer independent. I can't use gv to read the output, either, as I get a syntax error from gv on the postscript file opera generates. Big snip My version of ghostview is: 3.5.8. My version of ghostscript is 5.10. Any insight appreciated. Joel The usual: What kind of printer? What system are you running... 3.1? What printing system are you using? lprng? I can print from Opera to an HP printer but I use the IFHP filters, not GS anything. = I use an HP DeskJet 695c and can print from Opera 5.0, but only the first page. I've never run into this with any other browser I've used, or any other program for that matter shrug. Opera just stops after printing the first page, usually leaving a double line of print on the last line. It may be assuming A4 size as opposed to letter (US - 8.5x11). I've had no problems using Opera for online purchases, however. I've done a bit of ordering with nary a problem :o) Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape 6.1: And opera
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Joel Hammer cleverly noted: snip Well, I did download 6.1 and I'm trying it. It seems to work with my fidelity.com web site, which 6.0 wouldn't. I use opera mostly too. However, I am not entirely happy with it. No Java support, whatever that means. Hard to do online shopping, often fails, although I did manage to buy some things online from the national weather service. That was a victory. I can't print from it. I can't view page sources. Have you gotten opera to do plugins or helper applications? Joel === I haven't really tried any plugins yet (that's why I occasionally still fall back on NS 4.7x) I can get it to print, but only the first page. Can't for the life of me figure out why only the first page shrug I have NO problems shopping with it at a variety of different vendors. Mike -- The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- Buckminster Fuller ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape 6.1
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:56:04 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Has anyone tried the new netscape 6.1. I am so digusted with 6.0 that I am ready to try it. Is it worth it? Haven't tried 6.1, Joel, but I agree that 6.0 has been a dog! For the past couple of months, I've been using Opera 5.0 and really like it. It's very configurable. On those rare occasions when I need to use a Netscape browser, I pull up 4.7x. Haven't heard much one way or the other about 6.1 shrug Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what are you doing about the ORBS mess? OT
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:22:22 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: It's a UNIX Admin position with a company called Careworks Technologies. The actual assignment is being the admin for the entire Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services network (unemploment, child services, etc). Pretty cool so far. == Good Luck, Douglas! Sounds as if you'll be doing good work also. Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Error on mail to the group.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Mike Andrew cleverly noted: snip Incidentally, we chose David Bandel geographically, since we assume Panama would be very 'stable'. No one in their right minds would invade it would they? = I think dubya's daddy did. Or was that Ronnie? shrug Mike -- The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- Buckminster Fuller ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: modem woes on USR/3COM modem
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got my hands on a 3Com/USRobotics 3CP5610 PCI FaxModem. This is
the very same modem listed on the SxS site (Modems -USR) as being a
real modem that works under Linux.
==
Must be one of the few PCI modems that is not a winmodem {Yes, I know
there are a handful}. Are you certain it's not the ISA version that is
supposed to work with linux??
Mike
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OT Article might be of interest
I thought this might be of interest to some, especially those who've expressed their doubts about RMS and FSF http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/11967.html Mike -- The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- Buckminster Fuller ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT linux stuff
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Rick Sivernell cleverly noted: living , promoting linux. It is great. I have made many new freinds here and they live around the world, M$ does not have anything like it. = True!! But don't they *own* the world yet?? ;-) Mike -- One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the mind, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God. -- J. Gustav White ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
dep; as usual the voice of *moderation* and reason :o)
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Re: kppp on valium
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001, Tony Alfrey cleverly noted: Hi gang! OK, I've got a case of kppp on sedatives and I don't know where to look. My box has a Hayes 56K ISA modem (that never runs above 28K because of slow phone lines, but that is not the issue) with manual jumpers. On one partition, I run Caldera LTP with kppp 2.0.0 and my connection is fine. Now, on another partition, I have set up SuSE 7.2 with kppp 2.0.3 and my connection speed is about one-third of the other. I run my box on the desktop with no network or any added sophistication. I've carefully checked both kppp configuration files and they are identical. Since the modem has manual jumpers, port address and IRQ are the same for the serial ports on both distros. SuSE 7.2 comes with something called kinternet and it is equally slow. How can I diagnose this problem?? Thanks to all in advance for any ideas. Check your port settings in kppp in your SuSE setup. It may be set rediculously low by default (9600) try setting it to 1152000, or at least 33600. Just a guess, HTH, Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
