Re: How do you spell leenix?

2002-02-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:56:13 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One funny part of my computer crash.
> My wife called @HOME tech support (They are in Canada), since she
> thought it was our cable modem gone bad.
> They asked which OS she was using. When she said linux, they asked her
> to spell it.
===
Kinda makes ya wonder why you called "tech" support in the first place! 
;o)

Mike

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Re: Reading Documents with Various editors

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:25:21 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh boy. It sounds like they are going for nifty features in place of
> what most users really want, no hassles and standardization. It is to be
> hoped that they will supply a patch for 5.x that  will allow opening and
> saving of documents in the new format. After all, 5.x is very nice, and
> maybe a lot of users feel no great need to upgrade. 
=
Not that big a deal.  6.0 can be set by DEFAULT to save everything in the
old format, thus leaving the user with trouble free total compatability
with 5.x users.  I simply gives the option of using a new system that
evidently has other advantages (web publishing, I *think* beyond the
compression factor. Mike
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Re: Reading Documents with Various editors

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:22:30 +0100
Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:


>StarOffice 6 beta is supposed to do Office 2000/xp. That and loosing
>its desktop are the main new features, as far as I can see.
===
And a whole new file system/structure.  While the file systems/extensions
of the entire 5.x series were compatible with each other  (you could open
a 5.2 .sdw file in 5.o w/o problem.  6.0's .sxw files can not be opened by
the 5.x series (though 6.0 c CAN save in that format.  The new filesystem
appears to be quite compressed.  Files that used to take up 88k now take
up about 9k. Mike


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Re: Reading Documents with Various editors

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:12 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>BTW, I used staroffice 5.2, not 5.3. I don't know if there is a 5.3.
>Joel
=
was gonna ask about that ;o)
BTW, I'll bet 6.0 will do even better, and .xlm compressed format saves
even more space.  If you have the 6.0 beta, it might make an interesting
experiment  Mike 

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Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:36:16 -0600
daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500
>>
>> Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:
>> >You may want to check your system for a "rootdisk" folder.
>> >Mike
>>
>> ===
>> OOOPS!  I meant "rootkit"
>>
>> Mike
>If I have one what does that mean?
===
Some one has gotten control of your box and has root access.  Others will
hopefully correct me if I'm wrong and offer saner advice, but this may be
one situation where a COMPLETE re-install *might* be required. Mike

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Re: freecell

2002-02-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:04:56 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled gleefully:


>Actually, i discovered that freecell.exe runs perfectly with wine. 
>Thanks for your input though.
=
Have you tried Gnome's version??  I don't run Gnome, but it is installed
on my box and I do like their version of Freecell.

Mike


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Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500
Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:


>You may want to check your system for a "rootdisk" folder.
>Mike
===
OOOPS!  I meant "rootkit"

Mike

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Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 22:49:45 -0600
daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>OK this is what I did.
>
>Booted up into single user mode
>Reset the passwords for the users
>Rebooted in the previously broken system
>Logged in as if nothing had happened.
>
>So I have cured the symptom but still don't have any clue as to what 
>the cause was.  I'll check my /var/log for any hints that I was 
>broken into.  This is a good time for me to review my security.
>
>Thanks Llama for pointing me in the right direction.  And thanks 
>everyone else for giving me input.

You may want to check your system for a "rootdisk" folder.
Mike

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Re: XFree86

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:24:12 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled informatively:


>Truth be told, i haven't seen any real performance or feature benefit
>going from 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 on that 1 box.  I will note that i did see a
>significant improvement going from 3.3.6 to 4.1.0 on my Caldera box and
>my redhat box.
===
I think the "advertised" benefit going from 4.1 -> 4.2 is not so much
improved performance, but better syupport for some older video cards that
haven't been supported since 3.3.6.

Mike

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Re: HELP!!

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:29:04 -0800 (PST)

>> Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into
>> single
>> user run mode?
>> id:5:initdefault:
=
At the boot prompt type: linux 1
or 
linux single

Mike

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Re: new ibm ad

2002-02-07 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:55:27 -0500
dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bemusedly noted:

>new ibm linux ad, based on basketball:
>
>"how can anybody that good play for peanuts?"
>"loves the game."
>just now on of all places the weather channel.
===
Yeah, ibm has done a pretty fair job lately of putting linux before the
public and using sports analogies (especially during sports shows).  I
certainly doesn't hurt the public's perception of "Linux" to have ibm in
such a supportive role (regardless of their motivations...) Mike

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Re: Suggested module for PCI LAN Card..?

2002-02-04 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:09:54 -0500
Bill Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>I am about to blow my uptime to throw another NIC into my box,  8^(

>  6:30pm  up 187 days,  9:24, 12 users,  load average: 2.39, 2.28, 1.80
>___
Hey Bill,
Why not wait just two weeks and put yourself over the 200 day mark?  ;o)
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Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:17:56 -0600
Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cried out in frustration:

>
>In my life I have tried many things, & have had many successes and a
>few failures. Well I am going to express a failure here, please I beg
>you not to be too harsh on me, I feel bad enough. I had a
>conversation with my grown son last night, was not real intelligent,
>oh well that is another issue. He was spouting the virtures of
>Windows, Office XP & etc. I tried to explain the cost difference,
>availiablity and the ease of keeping your system in top computing
>shape. His answer, " I do not have time for that crap". Where did I
>go wrong here? I feel so ashamed, & violated. Someday maybe he
>will realize his errors and return to the fold. Actually a friend of
>his put XP on a machine & has had nothing but problems ever since. I
>would think he would have gotten the message. What is a dad to do?
=
This is what happens when we "spare the strap", Rick!  ;o)
Mike

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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:43:06 -
"kriss rolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled greedily:

> These are the items that iam interested in selling..
> Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc.
> are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to
> selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc




What happened here

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Re: interest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:05:28 -0700
Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Doug,
>   Would there be any entertainment of an "installfest" to be a part of
> this? The opportunity to have all that knowledge in one place might be a
> great opportunity to help further the cause (and maybe generate some
> revenue to offset expenses!)
==
uu, will there be any beer? ;o)
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Re: interest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:00:01 -0500
Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
> interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone
> on these lists getting together?
> If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a
> get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
=
In OZ, Canada, or US??  Or perhaps some other location??  ;o)
Mike

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Re: New Address, Job

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:07:17 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, list,
> 
> As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
> position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
> Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
> OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
> spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
> Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
> the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
> in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
> APIs and other development and programming tools.
> 
> For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
> fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
> addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
> continue to function.
=
Well, Best of Luck with the new position and the new living quarters.
I hope you're happy with the change.
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Re: IHOP

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:59:51 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care.
> 
> Kurt
=
Please do.  Inquiring minds want to know ;o)
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Re: DVD drives: recommendations?

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:31:42 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Greetings,
> I have the opportunity to acquire this DVD drive:
> 
>http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/discont_prod/03dis_ramrom/disdvd_rom/halp-ZZZAR20RXSC.html
> 
> Looking at the specs, to my untrained eyes, it looks like this beast can
> act as a 20x CDROM drive, as well as a DVD-ROM drive.

Yes, and a burner also, I think.

> 
> My only understanding about DVD drives in Linux is that they are similar
> to CD burners, in that they are seen as SCSI devices (if the drive has
> an IDE interface on it).  So, once I get the SCSI emulation bits inline,
> its just a matter of installing xine, and i'm good to go?

You may wish to recomplile the kenrel with scsi emulation built in and
then edit lilo so that it will see the new device as one requiring scsi
emulation.  /etc/fstab MAY automagically self-edit for the new device,
believe it or not.
> 
> Other than (obviously) needing a DVD drive, are there any videocard or
> soundcard requirements, or is anything fair game?
None that I know of, but I installed linux (RH7.2) with the device already
present and most/all was done without my interference.~Mike

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Re: AOL to buy Red Hat ?

2002-01-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:28:04 +0100 (CET)
Zoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-19-002-20-NW-RH
=
H..., perhaps they'll do for RH what they did for Netscape, huh?  I
was just getting used to RH as a distro, running 6.2 and 7.2.  I may
switch to SuSE, or perhaps back to Mandrake, or Caldera. or perhaps I'll
give Debian another try, or Slackware, or... Mike

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Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 19 msgs

2002-01-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:11:44 +1000
"Lavinius Romio Petru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in amusement:

> "Mayday", Called Some Experts
> Mad Consultants Slurping Ethanol

=
Yes!! A Keeper!!!
Mike

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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:49:09 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> On Wednesday 16 January 2002 13:24, Tim Wunder Sarpend his Quill and:
> 
> > > However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions
> > > that are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot
> > > work with ext3 partitions.
> >
> > But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition
> > ext2 without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2
> > and the rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition?
> >
> > Just asking...
> >
> > Tim
> 
> Does not work that way mate...In Suse you either have it as ext2
> or ext3. If its ext3 you cannot turn it back to ext2 without formatting
> AFAIK.

Hey Skippy,
Now I'm confused (well..., I usually am).  I *thought* one of the
supposed virtues of ext2/ext3 was the ability to change "on the fly" from
one to the other with the approrpiate adjustments to /etc/fstab, so long
as ext3 support had been compiled into the kernel.  Mike

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Re: How trashed is it?

2002-01-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:10:32 -0500
burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> On January 14, 2002 11:56 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> >
> >
> > Funny, i've never had any such problems becoming root with a simple
> > 'su'.
> 
> It doesn't happen often, but every now and then I run across a program
> that will not be fooled into accepting SU and I have to actually log in
> as root. 
> 
> I can't give you an example at the moment.
> -- 
> burns
=
I'va always followed this simple three step proceedure when denied access
after su'ing:

1) I shout at the screen, "But I AM root, you idiot!  Let me in, NOW!!

2) "Damn, stupid, $#@& [chant some of your favorite grumbles here...]

3) Login in as root and do what I orinially had to

Never fails to work  <|:-)

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Re: Re: Testing: Ignore

2002-01-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:12:10 -0800
"Robert L. Hemus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled wittily:


> Not quite kosher, but is this worth 1000 words?
> Bob
===
I'm speechless!!
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Re: Testing: Ignore

2002-01-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:39:39 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Joel Hammer managed to emit:
> > Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this
> > would be filled with misinformation.
> 
> Consider yourself ignored. ;-)
> 
> Kurt
===
Here we go... ;o)
Mike

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:07:19 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
> > 
> > Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used
> > noramlly. Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. 
> 
> Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir.
> 
> [snippage]
> 
=
Ahhh..., but we knew *his eminence* would set him straight now, didn't we,
your lordship? ;o)
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Re: Test

2002-01-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:26:13 -0600
"Ron White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can't get email sent to list.
> Hope this one made it.
==
Yup--
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +0530
"zohar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while
> other says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no
> processor like thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I
> want it to be able to download it linux material in Linux partition. So
> I think I have to brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?
==
It's likely that your internal modem is a winmodem; so many of them are
these days on new machines, unless you have the OEM customize somehow. 
You should try to find out precisely which modem it is that you have (you
can find out in Windows) and then check the supported list at
linmodems.com. If you don't mind popping for the few bucks for an
external, I'd recommend that root (as opposed to getting a software based
modem working).  Just be sure it's a serial port external as oppossed to a
USB (many of which are also software based).  You won't regret having an
external, I assure you. Mike

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Re: IT jobs Florida

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:46 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in ultimate sarcasm:

> --- Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 
> > You mean there were "survivors" <|:-)
> 
> I survived the 70s just fine, at age 5.
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Re: IT jobs Florida

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:40:56 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> That any brain cells survived is fscking
> amazing.

You mean there were "survivors" <|:-)
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Re: IT jobs Florida

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:20:34 -0500
Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:


> The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The 
> normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know 
> just take a couple:).
> Randy

LOL!!!
No comment...
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Re: Netscape 6.2 Composer

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:41:41 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> I am using the latest version. I suspect that a lot of such crashes are
> due to java, which may not be working quite right, although, I don't
> have such problems with netscape 6.2. Often, a repeat attempt at such a
> site with opera is successful, so, this is a sporadic but common problem
> for me when I use opera.
> Joel
==
Yup..., likely due to its being a TP (beta).  Hopefully when the 6.0 final
is released for linux, this problem will have been dealt with. Mike

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Re: Netscape 6.2 Composer

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:18:10 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Netscape 6.2 is working fine as a browser. email is not working quite
> right. I just tried the newest Opera on the SxS web site. It crashed
> when I tried to search the site.
> Joel

H., Odd.  I just tried browsing through the SxS for about 10 minutes,
using Opera 6.0TP and didn't encounter that problem.  Ran a "search" and
that seemed to work fine also.   Which version of Opera were you
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Re: Linux takeup

2001-12-27 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:44:52 +1130
Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:30, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> > Do you
> > happen to know what is used in their schools (or gymnasiums). 
> 
> No. I didn't look at this area. I'd only be guessing if I said anything.
> However, Europeans are xenophobic about Microsoft, particularly the
> French. One of the reasons for SuSE's popularity there, perphaps THE
> reason for it's popularity, is it is seen as non-American (versus
> Redhat). BTW there's a world of difference being protective or
> supportive of non-american product, versus being anti-american. The
> latter is not the case.
==
Agreed!  I've never found even the French (notoroius *false* reputation as
Anti-American) at all "Anti".  In fact, I felt quite comfortable even in
Paris.  I have to admit, I felt like an actual "honored guest", as an
American, in UK and the Netherlands, though. ;o) Mike
PS:  Hope everyone is enjoying a wonderful holiday season!!

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Will they recommend LINUX????

2001-12-24 Thread Michael Scottaline

Perhaps they'll urge Americans to switch to a safer OS  ;-)

Merry Christmas to all!!

Mike

> FBI URGES FURTHER STEPS TO SAFEGUARD WINDOWS XP

Consumers and corporations using Microsoft Corp.'s new Windows XP software
are being warned by the FBI to take added steps against hackers who might
try to take advantage of major flaws.


http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/12/23/microsoft.hackers.ap/index.html

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Re: [OT] testing my smtp

2001-12-23 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:41:46 +0800
Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> testing

Passed...  Next?!

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Re: christmas and its HOT!

2001-12-23 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:37:43 -0500 (EST)
Jay Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:


>Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were
> *supposed* to move over to the metric system.  Base-10 is FAR better a
> measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales.
> 
>  0c = pure water freezes   32f
>100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f
> 
>  1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state)
> 
>  1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute
> 
>Dang!  Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all
> relate to one another like that :-) 
==
Makes my head hurt!!  :-(
Talk of kernel compilations and the relative merits of various versions of
gcc is much less confusing and stressing. ;o) I hope everyone has a
wonderful holiday!! Mike

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Re: Filtrex wordperfect9 filter for word

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:29:38 -0500
Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled:


> Joel, use my new search engine at http://linux.nf/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi to 
> search for it. just check the 'lists' box
===
Cool!!  I just bookmarked that one with my other search engines!!
Thanks, Doug...
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Re: testing here too...

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:39:49 -0500
Bill Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> 
> cant seem to get anything to lists...
===
This one got through...
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Re: test

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:27:10 -0800
David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Please ignore.
===
  Now you've gone and done it!  ;o)
Let's see how long this thread gets, even after OTing it... 
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Re: Linux takeup

2001-12-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:05:21 +1130
Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Folks, I've just come back from the Netherlands and I think many of you
> would be interested in the following (mercifully brief) observations I
> made while there. Europeans on this list would correct me, but these are
> impressions from an outsider.

> Average stocking on shelves was
> 3 x XP
> 5 x Suse
> 1 x Redhat
> 
> It would be trite to say Windoze wasn't in the running. The massive
> games stockpile underpin it. But, the exposure to Linux was in your face
> and self evident.
=
Verrry interesting, Mike.  Thanks for the observations.  I wonder what the
feed back from our European friends on the list will be like.   Do you
happen to know what is used in their schools (or gymnasiums).  I don't
mean universities, or IT schools, but their regular "high schools".  What
do their students get used to using?  One of te key to MS success in the
US is the near ubiquitous presence in the school systems [yes some schools
use Macs, but increasingly it seems many more are moving to M$.  I know;
I've been working in the public school system for 28 years.  Only the
really interested computer types can be pursuaded to try linux (I have a
few). Just my US$0.02,
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Re: Happpy B-day Doug

2001-12-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:19:16 -0500
"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:42:17 -0500
> Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Hmmm.  As I read this, I'm sitting in a darkened room munching M&Ms
> and
> > > listening to my favorite album over and over again. ???
> > > 
> > > David A. Bandel
> > ==
> > Dark Side of the Moon???
> 
> How'd you guess?
> And more specifically, "Comfortably Numb" (my wife hates this song, but
> it's my favorite).
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> David A. Bandel

Can't believe my wild guess actually hit the mark !!  :o)
A noted author, systems administrator par excellence, linux teacher (well
I've learned much from your contributions ;-) ), cultivator of Panamanian
soil, and your favorite album is about madness. Is there a common
thread here?? 

Happy Holiday to you and yours, David!
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Re: Happpy B-day Doug

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:31:29 -0500
"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:47:32 -0500
> Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as 
> > kids, we'd be sitting around in darkened rooms munching pills and 
> > listening to repetitive music.
> 
> Hmmm.  As I read this, I'm sitting in a darkened room munching M&Ms and
> listening to my favorite album over and over again. ???
> 
> David A. Bandel
==
Dark Side of the Moon???
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Re: Happpy B-day Doug

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:39:21 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tony Alfrey wrote:
> % 
> % Didn't we decide a very long while back (on the caldera list) that 
> % David Bandel was the "old fogey"?
> 
> I don't remember that conversation...
> 
> Kurt
=
Guess you're too old... 
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Re: Happpy B-day Doug

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:01:48 -0800
Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 December 2001 08:52 am,Ian wrote:
> > Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> > > Tony Alfrey babbled on about:
> > > > Happy Birthday!  I missed the start of the thread, but did
> > > > someone say how old you are or do we really want to know?
> > >
> > > a ripe old 28 years today (dec 18)
> >
> > You old fogey...I'm not 28 for another 3 months!
> >
> > Errr...sorry, I take the fogey comment back...repsect for elders and
> > all!
> 
> Didn't we decide a very long while back (on the caldera list) that 
> David Bandel was the "old fogey"?

That MUST have been *before* Skippy joined!!  <|:-)
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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:47:48 -0800
Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 December 2001 11:39 am,Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
> 
> >. Every single app and frontend worked flawlessly.  Litterally
> > less than 20 minutes to a 100% stable 100% functional linux system. 
> > Not even a single additional program is needed to
> >  be totally functional. A great deal of polish went into this distro
> > and it shows.
> >
> 
> 
> Who can argue with this?  I'll put it on my wife's machine and see if 
> she notices the difference between win 98 ;-)  
> She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms.
===
Please shut down the webcam when she thrashes you.  I hate when that
happens ;o) Seriously, let us know how the experiment turns out.
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Re: Happpy B-day Doug

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:36:55 -0500
Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tony Alfrey babbled on about:
> > Happy Birthday!  I missed the start of the thread, but did someone say
> > how old you are or do we really want to know?
> 
> a ripe old 28 years today (dec 18)
=
Ouch!  I was already "legal" by the time you were born!
  ;-) Happy
Birthday!!  SCORES more!! Mike

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Re: Is this a Caldera list?

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC)
Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry.  Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here
> and just wondered if this list is distro specific.  
> 
> Thanks.  Anita

Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the
Caldera List, and many still use Caldera.  You'll find gentoo, mandrake,
SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out).  All linux users
are welcome. Mike

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Re: Re: ssh public key

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:09:48 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated:
> > What if I have a dish washer?
> 
> Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I
> cannot seem to get a trade-in.
===
Hey, Skippy,
Bet you never let your bride read this stuff, huh??
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Re: Re: ssh public key

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:01:36 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Errr,erm, what is coal and where does it plug into a computer, is it
> plug and play ? 

Sorry, Skippy.  It's just for us "BlackBox" users.   Mike

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Re: USB Zip drive on RH 7.2 [entire lsmod output this time!!]

2001-12-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

Output of lsmod:  (complete this time 

nls_iso8859-1
nls_cp437
sd_mod
vfat
fat
usb-storage
sr_mod
i810_audio
ac97_codec
soundcore
i810
agpgart
binfmt_misc
ds
yenta_socket
pcmcia_core
autofs
eepro100
appletalk
ipx
ide-scsi
scsi_mod
ide-cd
cdrom
usb-uhci
usbcore
ext3
jbd


On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:16:22 +0100
"Mike Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> Van: "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > shutdown that I notice a difficulty.  BTW, the device will not work if
> > connected at boot-up.  It must be connected (or unplugged and
> > re-connected) following boot up to work.
> 
> would you mind posting output of lsmod please, the OS you are using
(SuSE
> eg) and the trailing lines of /etc/rc.local
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: USB Zip drive on RH 7.2

2001-12-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:16:22 +0100
"Mike Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> would you mind posting output of lsmod please, the OS you are using
(SuSE
> eg) and the trailing lines of /etc/rc.local
===
Damn!!  I left off the last few lines of lsmod in previous message:

scsi_mod
ide-cd
cdrom
usb-uhci
usbcore
ext3
jbd

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Re: USB Zip drive on RH 7.2

2001-12-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:16:22 +0100
"Mike Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> Van: "Michael Scottaline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > shutdown that I notice a difficulty.  BTW, the device will not work if
> > connected at boot-up.  It must be connected (or unplugged and
> > re-connected) following boot up to work.
> 
> would you mind posting output of lsmod please, the OS you are using
(SuSE
> eg) and the trailing lines of /etc/rc.local
> 
> thanks.
=
The only uncommented line in /etc/rc.local is:

touch /var/lock/subsys/local

lsmod's output:

nls_iso8859-1
nls_cp437
sd_mod
vfat
fat
usb-storage
sr_mod
i810_audio
ac97_codec
soundcore
i810
agpgart
binfmt_misc
ds
yenta_socket
pcmcia_core
autofs
eepro100
appletalk
ipx
ide-scsi

My OS is Red Hat 7.2 (subject line ;-) )

Thanks for any help you ca offer, Mike!
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USB Zip drive on RH 7.2

2001-12-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

I have a Sony Vaio running RH 7.2.  The laptop has a CD-W/DVD and I
believe during installation this was detected and SCSI support was
included in the kernel.  I've added a USB external Zip drive that is
recognized on a hot plugin.  I edited /etc/fstab by adding the line
/dev/sda4   /mnt/zipautonoauto,user,kudzu 0 0
The disk does mount but when I shutdown, there seems to be a problem with
USB support, where it hangs for a few MINUTES before quickly posting an
error message (something about a new address being rejected) and then
shutting down normally.  Problem with my /fstab entry?  While I'm up and
running the device seems to work OK.  I'm able to copy files to the disk
(though it does appear a bit slow to respond).  It's only on the
shutdown that I notice a difficulty.  BTW, the device will not work if
connected at boot-up.  It must be connected (or unplugged and
re-connected) following boot up to work.
Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated.
TIA,
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Re: more KDE build problems

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:33:29 -0700
Myles Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:15:15 -0800 (PST)
> Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:25:46 -0800 (PST)
> > > Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Well, i give up.  I'm descending into RPM dependency hell here,
> > > where
> > > > each level gets uglier than the last.  I think this is a sign that
> > > KDE
> > > > isn't for me.  
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > KDE 2.x.x isn't something I'd want to cuddle up next to either.
> > 
> > XFCE is a beauty to behold, and a joy to build.  
> > XFCE forever
> 
> Amen!
==
One of the beauties of linux, generally, is choice (freedom).  Long live
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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:03:16 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Actually, this is what I do.  All of the groups I subscribe to have a
> filter to separate folder.  The only thing that shows up in my inbox
> is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. 
==
There's a difference;-)
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Re: Printer Recommendations

2001-11-26 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:38:07 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anyone care to recommend their favorite Linux-compatible color 
> inkjet printer?  I'm in the market for a new one. I don't *have* 
> to own a color printer, but it would be nice. If a good yet 
> inexpensive laser printer can be had for under $300, that would
> be nice, too.
==
I get very nice results from my HP DeskJet 695c.  I doubt it's available
as it's about 3 years old, but I mention it because there MAY be recent HP
DeskJets that will work well also.
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Re: Internet Connection

2001-11-25 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:54:31 +0800
aong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This is the first time I tried red hat.  I was able to install 7.1 
> successfully.  However, the problem I am encountering is connecting to 
> the internet.  I used kde as default and kppp to connect to the 
> internet.  I can sucessfully establish a connection with my isp but 
> somehow can not ping anyone beyond myself.  
> 
> I know it is not the problem of the isp as everything work well when I 
> use my caldera 3.1  Any clue as to what I did wrong on my red hat 
> installation.  I have never ventured into other distro except for
caldera.
=
Could be a dns problem.  Have you checked /etc/resolv.conf??  Is it set up
appropriately?
Mike

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Re: [SLE] FAQ

2001-11-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:50:21 +0100
Oliver Ob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Indeed I keep getting feedback of people asking why I am no longer
> on the german Suse list. But all those german NET-FASCISTS who
> insist on inquisitory rules such as "obey to our non-suse, but
> mega-netiquette or be banned of list with plum & plonk"

> But what a beginner really needs is like
> 
> 1. How to FAST setup my Netscape to work
>- analoque/ISDN
>- parallely with the mails I have under Windoze
> 2. How to get a little DOS-feeling (console commands)
> 3. What applications can I use
>example: XMMS like Winamp/Sonique
> Mutt/Netscape instead of Locked-off (outlook)
> and so forth.
> 
> *** I suggest we collect like questions we find useful
> to newbies and then see what we have got and compile that.
> 
> Beginners do learn. But what they do not intend to read
> is a fucking self-made ego-netiquette.


Yes, this list is most helpful and very newbie friendly.  An additinal
newbie friendly list, with an excellent SxS written for newbies, about a
variety of linux topics, can be found at http://linux.nf
The SxS (step by step) is written by list members, posted after peer
review.  At most a newbie might be politely pointed at that site for a
more detailed explanation of how to do what they want. It's truly a
step-by-step, rather than a bloated how-to.  Might be similar to what you
are suggesting.
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Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:16:56 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, list,
> 
> I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
> and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
> into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
> of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is
> and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and
> problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you
> will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements.
=
Kurt,
I recently installed RH 7.2 on a sony Vaio laptop (FX340).  I'm afraid I
had no problems, thus none to share.  Absolutely everything worked right
out of the box, NIC, video, audio, CD (burner and DVD, though I haven't
tried in that mode yet).  
Suggestion:  Have you tried posting a similar request to the RedHat
list??  Or perhaps a scan of their archives??  I recently joined the list
and it appears to be fairly active.  I'm sure you'd get some hits.
Just my US$0.02,
Mike


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Re: Sony Vaio laptop

2001-11-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:08:43 -0800 (PDT)
"stayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Excellent news Mike.
> 
> Good to know!
> 
> Stayler
==
Thanks Shawn,  Heck, it even set up my CD burner as an ide-scsi device.  I had even 
forgotten that the darn thing came with a DVD/CR-W (instead of an ordinary CD-ROM) and 
couldn't figure out, at first, why it was setting up the ide-scsi routine on 
installation.  Whew!  Very hands-off 
Take Good Care,
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Sony Vaio laptop

2001-11-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

I had asked for some advice last week about dealing with pre-installed
Windows XP on a laptop I was considering purchasing.  If anyone is
curious, I had NO problems.  The Vaio FX340 came with Windows XP on the C:
drive (approximately 6.5 gig) and a virtually empty D: drive formatted
NTFS.  I just eliminated D: and formatted for my ext3 and swap partitions
in the empty space.  RH 7.2 installed flawlessy and on intial boot, X,
sound, and everything else I've tried thus far just worked.  I'm planning
on adding an additional 256M or RAM (about US$60) to the 128 on board. 
That should have it running real comfortably  ;o)
Thanks for the responses I did get.  they were helpful in making my
decision.
Mike

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Re: url help

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:19:12 -0600
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


KW> Indeed. But I've got the design skills of a box of rocks, so I've no
KW> room to talk.
===
Kurt,
Would those be igneous, or metamorphic
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Re: url help

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:41:57 +
Ronnie Gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cleverly noted:

> can someone go to 
> http://www.americaneagletradingco.com
> I set this domain up and all seems ok but the client says they cant
> reach it 
> from their ISP.

What browser are they using?  I got there easily with Opera.
Mike

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Re: test

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:02:14 -0400
Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was inspired to comment:

> Anybody there?

Just us refugees ;o)

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Re: one final try

2001-10-05 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:44:28 -0600
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cleverly noted:

> Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
> %  this should do it
> 
> And if it doesn't?

What doesn't???   ;-)

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Re: testing linux-users

2001-10-05 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:10:31 -0400
"Douglas J. Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cleverly noted:

> Douglas J. Hunley babbled:
> 
> > please ignore
> nobody ever does...
==
I didn't  :o)


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Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #164 - 45 msgs

2001-09-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:30:33 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

KA> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 02:50, you wrote:
KA> > dragonsfireburns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and quoted
KA> 110kb's
KA> > of text to write a few lines way down in about the middle of those
KA> > hundreds of lines of text. WTF were you thinking? You've earned a
KA> spot -
KA> > right at the top - of my killfile. PLONK!!
KA> >
KA> > pissed off? you bet!
KA> 
KA> The guy is obviuosly a winders refugee, like our boat people, he
KA> hasn't a clue
KA> about edoing things correctly and editting mail. I also have
KA> banned him landing. Wonder whether he will apologise ??
=
If he does, guess you'll miss it, Skippy.  Me too; sending his stuff to
/dev/null ;o)
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Security discussion anyone?

2001-09-19 Thread Michael Scottaline

dep on computer security vigilance:

http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3784/1/

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Anti-war demonstrations

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

I understand there are already demonstrations (anit-Bush) being planned
for various locations around the country to protest US military action as
a response to the recent attack on US soil.  I'm guessing that these
protests are being organized by "Friends Of Osama bin Laden & Supporters",
yes that's FOOLS.  These FOOLS would like the US to turn the other cheek
and wait stoically for the next attack.
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Re: New York WTC

2001-09-17 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:46:45 -0700 (PST)
"Shawn Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


ST> 
ST> I hearby envoke the Neticate rule that a thread be immediately
ST> terminated upon mention of the H word
ST> 
ST> stayler
===
Dammit Shawn,
Who do you think you are, Hitler???  ;-)
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Re: WTC

2001-09-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:23:08 +0800
"Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
insightfully noted:

AL> Mind sending it to me so I can show to some of my friends in China?
AL> 
AL> Auyeung
AL>   - Original Message - 
AL>   ???: Bruce Marshall 
AL>   ???: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
AL>   : 2001?9?15? AM 02:17
AL>   ??: WTC 
AL> 
AL> 
AL>   I have received a  40+  picture slide show of many events during the
AL>   attack.  Most of the pictures are excellent.   If anyone would like
AL> me to 
AL>   send it to you, or if someone wants to put it on an ftp site, I
AL> would be 
AL>   glad to pass it on.
AL> 
AL>   StarOffice will show it just fine.  Don't know about other KDE apps.
=
I must have recieced the same one from a former student of mine, now a C3C
at the air Force Academy.  I think it's a Powerpoint presentation, but
yes, SO plays it flawlessly!  I'm forwarding it to Auyeung.
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Re: On a nicer note...

2001-09-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:15:02 -0400
burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

>
> I was there, on Parliament Hill. They estimate that as many as 100,000
> people 
> gathered on the hill to show their respect for those who perished, their
> outrage at the prepetrators and their support, friendship and 
> solidarity with our American neighbours and "cousins." This sentiment of
> being both neighbours and extended family was echoed by the Prime
> Minister , 
> who was there with the Governal General (the Queen's representative in 
> Canada), the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and the US Ambassador. 

==
Sounds like a most poignant moment that I'm sure you will carry with you,
burns, for a very, very long time.
Thank You for sharing it.
==
> Sorry to ramble on like this, but I still feel affected by the event.
> -- 
> burns
=
You wrote of it beautifully.  Thanks Again,
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Re: WTC

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:10:10 -0400
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


JH> As I recall, the Shah developed lymphoma and came to the US for
JH> treatment. The Islamic govt of Iran threatened to attack Americans
JH> if we did not surrender him to their regime. I remember well
JH>  Senator Kennedy (still in office)
JH> suggesting that we do just that. 
==
Wht do you expect from MaryJo's executioner??? :o)
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Re: New York WTC

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:10:47 -0400
Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

> Kabul is apparently under some kind of attack. CNN reports explosions
> and anti-aircraft fire.
> Could be some of their own citizens who object to the Taliban have
> decide to do a little
> terrorist action on their own, or it could just be guilt inspired
> Taliban trigger fingers. They
> may burn the whole place down oin their own.

Yes..., I hear they've done tens of dollars of damage to Kabul ;-)
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Re: gnome lost sawfish!

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:42:40 -0700
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

KM> I'm using redhat 7.1 with gnome/sawfish, and somehow, sawfish crashed,
KM> and
KM> now when I boot gnome I get an error, "You are not using a gnome
KM> compliant
KM> window manager" It looks like no window manager. Quite a mess on the
KM> screen. Does anyone have a clue how to restore sawfish or use
KM> enlightenment? I'd try installing xfce, but would like to know what
KM> the
KM> problem is here first. 
KM> tia
KM> again...

I haven't used gnome in a very long time, but isn't there an applet in the
panel (looks like a tool box, I believe) for gnome configuration?  I
believe you can choose a window manager there (usually sawfish,
enlightenment and icewm are among the listed options IIRC).
HTH,
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Re: Help starting KDE2.2

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:25:20 -0400
dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


> do have a couple more off at the agent right now, though, both of 
> which would surprise you. and no, neither is entitled "shipwrecked 
> cheerleaders."
==
h, but do let us know when you've completed that one, dep.. ;-)
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Re: Another great article by D.E.P.

2001-09-06 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:22:18 +0800
Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

> That didn't help your older son. he's still using M$.
> Your older son should have demonstrated Netscape for Win32, not 
> IE/OE.  :)
=
He only uses M$ when he's already in there for Diablo II or some other
such game that has not yet been ported to Linux.  Otherwise he's a KDE
(occasionally enlightenment) user when he's working on the computer.  I'm
not sure which browser he was showing her.  I think she just didn't like
the interface of Windows 
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Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-06 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:16:52 -0400
burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


> It's hard and requires a talent for high farce, but try to put yourself
> in 
> the Redmond mindset - think like Fuzzy Allchin or Thickasa Bollard:
> 
> - It is Microsoft's Constitutional right and God-given destiny to
> dominate 
> the computer industry... it's the American Way.
> 
> - After all, Bill Gates really invented the PC and the whole industry,
> after 
> IBM, Steve Jobs and Texas Instruments screwed it up... so it's "our"
> football 
> and "our" sandbox.
> 
> - Why would any one want to use anything else, when it's obviously 
> inferior... after all, it isn't Microsoft.
> 
> - If you have coded anything to run on a PC, then obviously you are
> either 
> stealing our code, or trespassing on our turf.
> 
> - These Linux fanatics are unAmerican, tofu-eating, birkenstock-wearing 
> socialist commies who haven't grown up yet. They don't know what the
> real 
> world is - it's Microsoft.
> 
> - Businesses that have adopted Linux have been misled by Linux Lies(tm)
> and 
> disinformation spread by a few pony-tailed fuzzy-thinking jobless
> parasites. 
> It's not their fault. It is our mission to educate them so they can
> rejoin 
> the real world and pay licence fees like evgeryone else... after all,
> it's 
> for their own good.
> 
> Along a similar vein, Microsoft took out a double page ad in last
> month's 
> Linux magazine - a first ever. When asked by LM why they were doing
> this, 
> Redmond reportedly replied that it finally occured to them that hadn't
> done a 
> good job of explaining to folks that Microsoft really was the best
> software 
> around. As a result, a few businesses such as ISPs had strayed to the
> dark 
> side. Their aim was to set the record straight so these folks could
> return to 
> the fold, thus putting the galaxy back in balance.

Oooohh!!  Now I get it!!!  Thanks for `splaining it to us Burns.  ;o)
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Re: Another great article by D.E.P.

2001-09-05 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:56:56 -0500
Jim Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was inspired to comment:

> Here's another great article by dep.
> 
> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3751/1/

I agree, it's a very well done article.  No surprise there!

> 
> I've helped 2 of my friends install Caldera eD2.4.  One is using it on a
> sporadic basis, just testing the waters, not doing anything critical
> yet.  
> He's hooked on Shisen-Sho though.  And the other claims he doesn't have
> the 
> time to learn it.  Another of my friends wants to try a dual-boot on his
> machine when he has to format/re-install windows next time.  Most of the
> people that I know know that I run a Linux distro.  I've had them ask
> plenty 
> of questions about it.  I've tried to answer them to the best of my
> ability.  
> I've only been running eD2.4 since April 2000 and I've seen Linux grow
> by 
> leaps and bounds.  I tell most people that if Linux doesn't do what you
> want 
> now, wait 6 months and it probably will(unless you are a programmer and
> want 
> to code it yourself).

A few months ago, my father-in-law (aged 76) purchased his first computer.
 He had never really used one and thus was/is a TOTAL newbie.  He and my
sister-in-law got together and decided to buy from Dell.  Not bad, but I
cautioned tham to refuse ME (get 98 instead), refuse the MSN deal, and
insist on a real modem. Well they followed non of these suggestions, and
now I'm stuck helping him with his worthless OS and even more hideous ISP
(MSN.com).  The more I think about it though, the more I wish I had just
installed a linux distro on the damn thing and been done with it.  He was
starting from *0* knowledge anyway.  why not teach him linux (purely as a
user at first - I would have retained root privileges for myself, until he
was able to assume that responsibility).  From a pure user perspective,
IMHO opinion, linux is at least as easy (perhaps easier) to learn as
windoze.  And without the M$ _pre-conditoining_ I believe it's probably
also easier for the user to learn how the system actually operates.
My bride (or over 20 years ;o) ) never really used a computer until she
took a position as a teachers' assistant at a local elementary school. 
She learned to e-mail on their imacs and execute some other simple
computer tasks.  At home she now uses linux to write things, browse the
web and manage her e-mail.  One day, my older son was trying to show her
how to do such things in win98.  Ultimately she just became exasperated
and declared, "Get me out of here and boot linux please.  I just don't get
windows!!"  I took her to dinner 
Mike

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Re: OT stock market

2001-09-04 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:46:40 -0600
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cleverly noted:


> Howdy, Calamity! Good to see you're still kickin' around. How's that
> wayward husband o' yours?
=
Uh-oh.., Calamity's back??  Prolly here to talk down to all the
men, bein' real condescending and... woops... is that my wife callin'
again. gotta go  ;o)
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Re: laptop - dialup and lan connection

2001-08-25 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:37:11 +1130
Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

MA> On Saturday 25 August 2001 23:38, Michael Scottaline wrote:
MA> > I have a laptop [500mhz Celeron w 256mb RAM] that I used to connect
MA> via an
MA> 
MA> [snip]
MA> 
MA> if I understood correctly, the answer is that kppp will add, and
MA> subsequently 
MA> remove it's definition of a default route to /etc/resolv.conf when it
MA> is "in 
MA> use".
=
Thanks Mike.  that's pretty much what I figured, but glad you've confirmed
my hunch.
Mike

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Fw: Fw: Security Update [CSSA-2001-032.0] Linux - sendmail instant root exploit

2001-08-25 Thread Michael Scottaline

Just in case this got by any COL users..

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:42:12 +0200
From: "Tom Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: Security Update [CSSA-2001-032.0] Linux - sendmail instant
root exploit


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>

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>Caldera International, Inc.  Security Advisory
>
> Subject: Linux - sendmail instant root exploit
> Advisory number: CSSA-2001-032.0
> Issue date: 2001, August 24
> Cross reference:
>

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>
>
> 1. Problem Description
>
>Sendmail contains an input validation error, so local users may be
>able to write arbitrary data to process memory, possibly allowing the
>execution of code/commands with elevated privileges. This allows
>a local attacker to gain access to the root account.
>
>
> 2. Vulnerable Versions
>
>System   Package
>---
>OpenLinux 2.3 not vulnerable
>
>OpenLinux eServer 2.3.1   not vulnerable
>and OpenLinux eBuilder
>
>OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4not vulnerable
>
>OpenLinux Server 3.1  All packages previous to
>  sendmail-8.11.1-4
>
>OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 All packages previous to
>  sendmail-8.11.1-4
>
> 3. Solution
>
>Workaround
>
>  none
>
>The proper solution is to upgrade to the latest packages.
>
> 4. OpenLinux 2.3
>
> not vulnerable
>
> 5. OpenLinux eServer 2.3.1 and OpenLinux eBuilder for ECential 3.0
>
> not vulnerable
>
> 6. OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4
>
> not vulnerable
>
> 7. OpenLinux 3.1 Server
>
> 7.1 Location of Fixed Packages
>
>The upgrade packages can be found on Caldera's FTP site at:
>
>   
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/current/RPMS
>
>The corresponding source code package can be found at:
>
>
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/current/SRPMS
>
>7.2 Verification
>
>b4fda9679325022adda547f1b3fae8dc  RPMS/sendmail-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>f3eaef00ae6a7cb30635baf6ad13325a
RPMS/sendmail-cf-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>1f17f7fa698748eb5bc6e55951948451
RPMS/sendmail-doc-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>c3f6af83c406174b325aa28af45c51ae  SRPMS/sendmail-8.11.1-4.src.rpm
>
>
>7.3 Installing Fixed Packages
>
>Upgrade the affected packages with the following commands:
>
>  rpm -Fvh sendmail-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm \
>   sendmail-cf-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm \
>   sendmail-doc-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>
>
> 8. OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation
>
> 8.1 Location of Fixed Packages
>
>The upgrade packages can be found on Caldera's FTP site at:
>
>
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Workstation/current/RPMS
>
>The corresponding source code package can be found at:
>
>
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Workstation/current/SRPMS
>
>8.2 Verification
>
>b4fda9679325022adda547f1b3fae8dc  RPMS/sendmail-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>f3eaef00ae6a7cb30635baf6ad13325a
RPMS/sendmail-cf-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>1f17f7fa698748eb5bc6e55951948451
RPMS/sendmail-doc-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>c3f6af83c406174b325aa28af45c51ae  SRPMS/sendmail-8.11.1-4.src.rpm
>
>
>8.3 Installing Fixed Packages
>
>Upgrade the affected packages with the following commands:
>
>  rpm -Fvh sendmail-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm \
>   sendmail-cf-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm \
>   sendmail-doc-8.11.1-4.i386.rpm
>
> 9. References
>
>This and other Caldera security resources are located at:
>
>http://www.caldera.com/support/security/index.html
>
>This security fix closes Caldera's internal Problem Report 10420.
>
>
> 10. Acknowledgements
>
>Caldera International wishes to thank Cade Cairns of SecurityFocus
for
>spotting and reporting this bug.
>
> 11. Disclaimer
>
>Caldera International, Inc. is not responsible for the misuse of
>any of the information we provide on this website and/or through our
>security advisories. Our advisories are a service to our customers
>intended to promote secure installation and use of Caldera OpenLinux.


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laptop - dialup and lan connection

2001-08-25 Thread Michael Scottaline

I have a laptop [500mhz Celeron w 256mb RAM] that I used to connect via an
external modem (the builtin is a winmodem) to my ISP.  Several months ago,
I bought a pcmcia ethernet card and have been connecting via my office
lan.  Obviously my /etc/resolv.conf now reflects that connection.  If I
were to use this laptop at home and connect via my external modem again,
could I simply add the approrpriate info in kppp (rather than re-edit my
/etc/resolv.conf) and have the connection read that info as long as I'm
connected via kppp, or would that re-write my /etc/resolv.conf
necessitating constant editing of that file whenever I connect via the
"other" way (kppp v. ethernet card).  I've never added all of the
networking info to kppp.  Usually I just give it my isp's phone #, my
login name, and password, and let the network connection read from
resolv.conf  Anyone ever do what I'm asking about???
Thanks,
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Latest Dep Article

2001-08-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

A good read.

http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3721/1/

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Re: automount not working

2001-08-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:17:53 -0400
blumagic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have just installed RH7.1 on linux partition of a dual boot system.
> I am having a problem with accessing my floppy and zip drives.
> I also cant access my windows C D E and F drives either.
> My cdrom is mounted and I can access it  from the command line.
> When I type the mount command I get:
> /dev/hdb4 on / type ext2 (rw)
> none on /proc type proc (rw)
> usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
> automount(pid748) on /misc type autofs
> (rw,fd=5,pgrp=748,minproto=2,maxproto=3)
> blumagic:(pid814) on /net type nfs
>
(intr,rw,port=1023,timeo=8,retrans=110,indirect,map=/etc/amd.net,dev=0008)
> 
> /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,user=blu)
> 
> My /etc/fstab looks like this:
> LABEL=/ /   ext2defaults
> 1 1
> /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto
> noauto,owner,rw0 0
==
Change "owner" to "user"
What command are you issuing to mount your zip drives [mount /mnt/zip]??
I see no mention of your windows drives in /etc/fstab.  You may need to
create mount points for those individual partitions.
===

> none/proc   procdefaults
> 0 0
> none/dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620
> 0 0
> /dev/hdb3   swapswapdefaults
> 0 0
> /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660
> noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
> /dev/sda1   /mnt/zipext2
> noauto,rw,user,exec 0 0
> /dev/sda4   /mnt/doszip vfat
> noauto,rw,user,exec 0 0
> 
> Any help as to what I am doing wrong or have setup wrong would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Leslie...
===
What does you /etc/mtab file say??
Mike

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Re: I installed kde2.2

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:04:17 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


KA> As I replied to Shawn I disliked the way Star took over the desktop
KA> just to 
KA> write a letter, plus its bloated like M$ Word. Just migght take a loo
KA> at it 
KA> though.
=
I *think* v 6.0 is supposed to be more componentized (Yes Keith, I did
just make that word up, but I think you get the picture ;o) )  You should
be able to open just one specific app (wp, or spreadsheet, or whatever)
w/o open the whole program and thus the new, unwanted desktop.  That will
probably be true of the Open Source version also (OpenOffice) when it is
finally released.
Take Care,
Mike

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Re: I installed kde2.2

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:33:38 +1000
Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

KA> Well I am back up again, bet you did not know I was offline either.. I
KA> fell 
KA> sick with a mild, thank god, dose of influenza; luckily I had had my
KA> flu 
KA> shots and Pneumonia this year. I retired to bed middle last week and
KA> got up 
KA> yesterday for the first time, still feel a bit wonky though.
==
Hey Skippy,
Glad you're feeling a bit better.  Well enough to be playing with the
cutting edge stuff again, huh? ;-)  While you're waiting for Kword to
catch up. SO 5.x handles the exporting of Word .docs virtually flawlessly.
 It may not be KDE, but it is a nice (if at the moment bloated) package,
IMHO.
Mike


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Re: icewm

2001-08-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:30:19 +0800
"Auyeung at Technet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

AT> Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like
AT> it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ?
==
I've toyed with it briefly in my search for a simple, fast, lightweight
wm.  Reminded me more of win9x than anything else I've played with.  I've
finally settled on BlackBox (for about a year now).  It might be the
lightest, fastest of them all.  Understated elegance ;-)
Just my US$0.02, YMMV,
Mike


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Re: delete email from server

2001-08-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:57:57 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

> 
> Neither.  I use KMail all the time.  I'm finding it more pretty than
> useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client.  I've been
> playing
> with Althea lately but have heard of one from the Kompany called Aethera
> (or something like that), which is supposed to include some PIM stuff as
> well.
=
Matt,
Try sylpheed.  It's at www.good-day.net
Does imap, pop, and allows mulitple smtp accounts for outgoing.
Mike

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Re: Can send with KMail

2001-08-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:59:41 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

> Mike,
> 
> No go, didn't work
> 
> Keith B.

> >=
> >Try:  smtp.vww.com
=
OK, try smtp.mail.vww.com
Mike

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Re: Can send with KMail

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:04:36 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

> Hello All,
> 
> I am trying to use my ISP's mail service with KMail.  I have configured
> all the
> right stuff:  pop3 = mail.bww.com. port 110  - can recieve emails from
> my ISP
>  without problems
>  smtp = mail.vww.com port 25  - cannot send any email to
> others
> 
=
Try:  smtp.vww.com

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dep says it's soup ;-)

2001-08-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

I honestly can't believe the secretaries in my office would be stumped
trying to use a linux desktop.  No, no one is going to ask them to
download, untar, unzip, ./configure, etc.  But, hey, they don't do that
now with windows.  I believe anyone beyond the level of *complete idiot*
can sit in front of KDE or gnome, and with the very briefest of intros, be
able to use linux for most office type work.
And, dep says we may well be there  [Hey dep, I used your name cause I
figured it would carry more weight than mine ;-) ]

http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3705/1/

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Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!

2001-08-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:04:00 -0600
Myles Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:


MG> > Can I be offended?
MG> 
MG> Oh, I should *think* so... I know I was  until an un-named
MG> saviour sent it to me thereby giving me the oportunity to be offended
MG> in
MG> the proper mam.. err.. manner =)
=
Uh-oh.  You're pushing it again, Myles ;o)


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Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!

2001-08-14 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:27:08 -0400
"Douglas J. Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

DH> I wanted to take a moment to let everyone know that we have lost some
DH> list 
DH> members because of the posting of a nude (though tastfull IMHO)
DH> picture. A 
DH> couple of people have also indicated the references to sexual
DH> interaction w/ 
DH> animals to be "pushing it". 
DH> 
DH> So, let's move the converstaion back to Linux shall we everyone?
DH> And no more nudes! I'll have to unsub any future offenders.
=
Thanks for the warning Doug.  I posted the, evidently, offending photo
(though one did *have to* purposely open it - unless of course one is
using one of those _other_ readers).  I apologize again.
Mike


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Re: Re: test-please ignore

2001-08-13 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:45:21 -0600
"Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

KW> [cough, sputter]
KW> 
KW> Lord have mercy; to be 21 again...
KW> 
KW> I'm as far from being prude as my Jewish sister-in-law
KW> is from attending Mass, but I do think this photo was
KW> perhaps best sent directly rather than via the list.
KW> 
KW> Kurt

Sorry about that   I thought the same thing about 2 seconds
after hitting ctrl+s.  Well one DID have to click on the attachment ;o)
Mike 

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Re: test-please ignore

2001-08-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:30:27 -0600
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

KW> In the last episode, we heard easwari say:
KW> > test
KW> 
KW> Note the date: "Thu, Jan 01, 1998." 
KW> 
KW> Kurt
===
Wow!!  Even snail mail *might* have been faster, no Kurt???
Mike


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Linux Cookbook

2001-08-12 Thread Michael Scottaline

Some might find this site useful.  I've only glanced over it (mostly table
of contents) but might be worth a look)

http://dsl.org/cookbook/

Mike

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Re: /tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 08:38:34 -0600 (CST)
Ian Marchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was inspired to comment:

> Quoting Mark Heinrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files
> > that
> > I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
> > getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space
> > /tmp
> > has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of
> > space
> > /tmp has?  TIA
> > 
> > Mark
> 
> If /tmp is on a seperate partition, 'df' will show you the free space on
> all 
> your partitions.  If /tmp is part of your / partition, you may have some
> work 
> ahead of you.  Assuming you have space on your HD, head to the SxS and
> look up 
> PARTITIONS.

How about "cd /tmp
du
Won't that tell the original poster how much of his /tmp is being used?
Mike

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:14:18 +1130
Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

MA> On Wednesday 08 August 2001 04:43, Richard Thompson wrote:
MA> > I've been having a recurring problem accessing the internet on my
MA> eD2.4
MA> > box.   I dial up and get a network connection just fine - only no
MA> data
MA> 
MA> [snip]
MA> 
MA> without knowing wich dialler you are using kppp? it's hard to go
MA> further.
MA> 
MA> you are _probably_ not setting the default route (or allowing the
MA> program you 
MA> use, to do so). You have different ip numbers assigned to you
MA> depending on 
MA> your login. The work account, is _probably_ a fixed one and you have 
MA> hardwired the gateway, to it.
MA> 
MA> if you're using kppp (for instance)
MA> 
MA> setup->(account)->edit->Gateway "assign ip address to gateway" is
MA> first port 
MA> of call.
==
Might also try editing /etc/resolv.conf (as root, of course).  Add the
lines:
search 
nameserver 
nameserver 

HTH,
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