Re: [Ltsp-discuss] flow control revisited

2014-01-03 Thread Peter Billson
E Kogler wrote:
> My option would be to force the gigabitport to 100MBit :-)
> Edgar-

The TCP/IP protocol has flow control "built in." If the sender is sending
too fast, the receiver will tell it to slow down. There really is no need
to use hardware flow control.

 Hardware flow control causes issues when used with LTSP. If the pause
frame is sent to the server, everyone freezes. If the pause frame is sent
to the port on the switch the client is connected to, the switch buffer
can fill up - causing a pause frame to be sent to the serve.

  1)Reducing the server's port to 100MBit doesn't make sense. Instead of
being able to service 10 clients(ish) at full speed, it can service only
one.

  2) Generally disabling *hardware* flow control works best. be sure to
disable it *everywhere* - client's NIC, server's NIC, switch.

  3) I have on occasion run into packet size problems where the GBit MTU
was slightly too big for the 100MBit NIC and that caused lots of
retransmits.


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[Ltsp-discuss] LP0

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Billson
Xavier Brochard wrote:
> Le lundi 17 septembre 2012 18:52:54 Peter Billson, vous avez écrit :
>> Hello *,
>>   I am upgrading to LTSP5 from 4.x (under CentOS) and am having an issue
>> with the parallel ports on my T1220 clients that I got from
>> DisklessWorkstations.com.
>>
>>   The port is seen on boot according to the log file but I can not write
>> anything to it. I get a "no such device" error if I try to cat
>> /etc/passwd > /dev/lp0
>
> I guess that is because the shell is on the server, not on the client.
> To login in the client shell try this
> http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Troubleshooting

Xavier,
   Thanks for the reply but I started a shell on the client for testing so
I am talking to the client hardware, not the server.

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[Ltsp-discuss] LP0

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
  I am upgrading to LTSP5 from 4.x (under CentOS) and am having an issue
with the parallel ports on my T1220 clients that I got from
DisklessWorkstations.com.

  The port is seen on boot according to the log file but I can not write
anything to it. I get a "no such device" error if I try to cat
/etc/passwd > /dev/lp0

 Any ideas on what may be the issue?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization for Desktops vs LTSP?

2010-01-11 Thread Peter Billson
Jordan Erickson wrote:
> Ondrej Valousek wrote:
> *snip*
> 
>> Also, LTSP/Linux kernel developers should pay more attention to the 
>> resource control as that's the biggest gap I am seeing at the moment
> 
> This is a very valid question that I've run up against.. is there no
> software for Linux that throttles seemingly out-of-control processes? I
> can see how it would be very difficult for it to be determined as an
> actual runaway process and not something that's just CPU intensive for
> the task it's handling...but per-user/global nice monitor perhaps? Hmm,
> probably man nice would help. Actually, no..it doesn't. ;) But still, hmm.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jordan

ulimit [-SHacdflmnpstuv [limit]]
 Provides control over the resources available to the shell and 
to processes started by it, on systems that allow such control. The 
-H and -S options specify that the hard or soft limit is set for the 
given resource. A hard limit cannot be increased once it is set; a 
soft limit may be increased up to the value of the hard limit. If 
neither -H nor -S is specified, both the soft and hard limits are 
set. The value of limit can be a number in the unit specified for 
the resource or one of the special values hard, soft, or unlimited, 
which stand for the current hard limit, the current soft limit, and 
no limit, respectively. If limit is omitted, the current value of 
the soft limit of the resource is printed, unless the -H option is 
given. When more than one resource is specified, the limit name and 
unit are printed before the value. Other options are interpreted as 
follows: [snip]

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Firefox dropdowns very slow

2009-05-19 Thread Peter Billson
Kenneth,
I apologize in advance for the incomplete answer but since no 
one else piped up, I thought something is better then nothing.

This is a known issue. I don't run Fedora so I can not tell you 
the specific solution for FC.  For Debian Lenny it is as simple as 
installing the libx11-xcb1 package.

   If you Google for "slow menus firefox" (no quotes) you will find 
the work around.

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Kenneth Lundström wrote:
> Hello all fellow LTSP´s.
> 
> I have an Fedora Core 9 installation with LTSP 5 running maybe 6 
> clients. Two weeks ago i upgraded to Core 10 and everything I could find 
> via yum.
> 
> The problem is now that Firefox dropdown selection boxes are very, very 
> slow. When you click on an selection box it takes 2-3 seconds before it 
> opens.
> 
> Anybody have any ideas of an solution for this?
> 
> 
> Kenneth
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] xauth

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Billson
Gideon,
   I hope all is going well with you and Symbio.

   Thank you for the information. Exactly what I was looking for.

   I should have know that you'd know the answer! :-)

   xhost would not work when run from the LTSP server e.g. from the 
user's .xsession file or a terminal window on the client. I would 
get an error message that it must be run on the server (ltsp client) 
which is why I started looking at xauth and finally ended up running 
xhost the way I did.

   The /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/ is *exactly* what I need.

   LTSP rocks yet again.


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Gideon Romm wrote:
> Pete-
> 
> Using xhost is the X preferred way of loosening X security restrictions.
> As xhost is an X client app, you could run it either client-side or
> server-side - in other words, you could make it a server-side script
> that runs upon login, as well (unless you need access to the Xserver
> prior to login).
> 
> You should also note that ldm has a directory structure for adding
> custom scripts, so you needn't hack up the scripts provided by the
> package.  There is:
> 
> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
> 
> If you drop a script in this directory, with the appropriate prefix, it
> will run at the appropriate point within the ldm sequence.  Prefixes
> are:
> 
> I - "init", which is executed after Xserver starts bu before greeter
> appears.
> S - "Start", which is executed after successful login.
> K - "Kill", which is executed after successful logout.
> X - "X", which modifies the connection made to launch the desktop via
> ssh.
> 
> The structure is similar to the rc.d structure of SysV, and all scripts
> are sourced.  You can order the scripts with the appropriate ordering
> numbers.
> 
> Check out that directory for details.
> 
> This way, you can add your own hacks as separate files that will not be
> impacted upon upgrade.
> 
> Also, note we have similar structures for general X screen scripts:
> 
> /usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc.d/
> 
> and general session scripts (pre-launching Xserver):
> 
> /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/
> 
> All have similar structures, though screen-session.d scripts have an
> additional prefix "XS" which is used to setup xorg.conf.
> 
> Happy hacking!
> 
> -Gadi
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 08:46 -0400, Peter Billson wrote:
>> Just a follow up to my own question for the archives:
>>
>>I didn't figure out a way to disable xauth but I did figure out a 
>> way to use xhosts. I created a bash script that said:
>>
>> sleep 45
>> export DISPLAY=:7
>> xhost +{ip address}
>>
>>
>> and put it in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/local/bin
>>
>>
>> I then modified the ldm screen script (in 
>> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/screen.d) to launch my script in the 
>> background just before starting ldm by adding:
>>
>> /usr/local/bin/petes-script& just before ldm is started
>>
>>
>> Probably a much better and easier way to do what I want but damned 
>> if I could figure it out! :-)
>>
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>> Peter Billson wrote:
>>> Hello *,
>>>   Is there a way to disable xauth when using LDM as the display manager?
>>>
>>>   When using kdm I can use an xhosts +{someip} to allow a host to be able
>>> to connect to a terminal's display but if I try to use xhost with LDM it
>>> doesn't work.
>>>
>>>   I want to allow a remote host access to the client's display without the
>>> need to reshare the xauth cookie each time I restart the client.
>>>
>>> Pete Billson
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] xauth

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Billson
Just a follow up to my own question for the archives:

   I didn't figure out a way to disable xauth but I did figure out a 
way to use xhosts. I created a bash script that said:

sleep 45
export DISPLAY=:7
xhost +{ip address}


and put it in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/local/bin


I then modified the ldm screen script (in 
/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/screen.d) to launch my script in the 
background just before starting ldm by adding:

/usr/local/bin/petes-script& just before ldm is started


Probably a much better and easier way to do what I want but damned 
if I could figure it out! :-)


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Peter Billson wrote:
> Hello *,
>   Is there a way to disable xauth when using LDM as the display manager?
> 
>   When using kdm I can use an xhosts +{someip} to allow a host to be able
> to connect to a terminal's display but if I try to use xhost with LDM it
> doesn't work.
> 
>   I want to allow a remote host access to the client's display without the
> need to reshare the xauth cookie each time I restart the client.
> 
> Pete Billson

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[Ltsp-discuss] xauth

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
  Is there a way to disable xauth when using LDM as the display manager?

  When using kdm I can use an xhosts +{someip} to allow a host to be able
to connect to a terminal's display but if I try to use xhost with LDM it
doesn't work.

  I want to allow a remote host access to the client's display without the
need to reshare the xauth cookie each time I restart the client.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: local devices

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Billson

Peter Stein wrote:
[snip]
> Is there anyone who has a Debian Etch + LTSP5 with working local devices?


Peter,
   Yes I just set such a beast up yesterday. I followed the 
instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto

   There is a link from that page to 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev for debugging local devices.

   For me local devices works almost perfectly. I am having trouble 
getting USB floppy drives to work but I am pretty sure that is 
different then the trouble you are having.

   The messages that are spit up on the client when you hot plug 
your device are key to figuring out where the trouble lies.


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[Ltsp-discuss] USB Floppy Drive Issue

2008-03-09 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
   I am setting up LTSP 5 for the first time using Etch + backports.
Everything is working great (LTSP 5 is GREAT!) but am having an issue
getting USB floppy drives working.

  On boot (or when hot plugged after boot) they are seen as SDA but then I
get an error about unknown partition table so they do not show up as a
drive.

  Same error regardless if I have a floppy in the drive or not.

  USB flash drives work fine. GREAT actually.

  Any suggestions?

  The drives will always be present, so a forced mount would be OK.
Perhaps I can just echo the correct info to the client's
"/var/run/ltsp_fstab" file on boot? Would that work?

  Thanks guys for yet another great release of LTSP.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Watching youtube videos

2007-08-29 Thread Peter Billson
Damien Hull said:
> Is anyone able to watch streaming video like youtube?

Damien,
  Yes. Many users at the same time.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Need Udev Help

2007-08-16 Thread Peter Billson
Jim Kronebusch wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:53:15 -0400 (EDT), Peter Billson wrote
>> Hello *,
>>I have a problem with accessing USB drives through an un-powered USB hub.
>>
>>   The problem is a well known issue due to changes in the 2.6 kernel so
>> that USB works "right." The "fix" is simply to echo a value to the
>> proper place under /sys/bus/usb/devices when the USB drive is plugged
>> in.
>>
>>   I have a simple little shell script to do the job and it works fine if
>> run manually.
>>
>>   My problem is I can not seem to get the script to execute automatically
>> on the LTSP client when a USB device is plugged in. I am sure this is
>> just my total lack of knowledge about udev and am hoping that someone
>> can point me to how and where to add the correct udev rule so that this
>> magic happens.
> 
> This is a very basic explanation from a person with very minimal knowledge on 
> the topic.
>  But from what I understand the usb device sends a signal when plugged in.  
> So you plug
> in your USB hub and no devices are plugged in when the signal is sent thus no 
> drives are
> mounted.  Now when you plug a drive into the hub a signal is sent, but it 
> stops at the
> hub and never makes it to the client, so no drive is mounted.  If you plug 
> the drive
> into the hub, then plug the hub into the client, there is a drive present 
> when the
> signal is sent so the drive is mounted.  I think Scott Balnaeves said that 
> you could
> possibly probe the usb device every so often to see if a drive was present, 
> but I can't
> exactly remember.  If you contact him I'm sure he'll shed a great amount of 
> light on
> what is happening.
> 
> Jim

Jim,
   Thanks for the reply. I didn't get too much into the actual problem 
since the problem itself isn't LTSP related.

   The actual "problem" is that the newer 2.6 kernels enforce the USB 
power limits that are part of the USB specification. Older kernels did not.

   S technically the older kernels (where the USB thumb drives 
worked on unpowered hubs) where broken and the new kernels (where the 
thumb drives don't work) are fixed.

Much grumbling has ensued but the kernel guys are correct in their 
implementation. After all if you just start ignoring standards and doing 
what is convenient you would end up with M$ Vista!

   Anyway, in my case the thumb drive is seen when it is plugged into 
the hub but the kernel chooses not to configure it based on how much 
power it draws.

   Forcing the kernel to configure the device is trivial - my little 
script does that - but my LTSP related problem is that I can not figure 
out how to write a udev rule to run the script automatically on the client.

   I was hoping Scotty (the self-taught LTSP udev guru) was not too busy 
and had some helpful advice but I am sure he is busy.


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[Ltsp-discuss] Need Udev Help

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
   I have a problem with accessing USB drives through an un-powered USB hub.

  The problem is a well known issue due to changes in the 2.6 kernel so
that USB works "right." The "fix" is simply to echo a value to the
proper place under /sys/bus/usb/devices when the USB drive is plugged
in.

  I have a simple little shell script to do the job and it works fine if
run manually.

  My problem is I can not seem to get the script to execute automatically
on the LTSP client when a USB device is plugged in. I am sure this is
just my total lack of knowledge about udev and am hoping that someone
can point me to how and where to add the correct udev rule so that this
magic happens.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiosk Setup with No Persistence

2007-07-18 Thread Peter Billson
Alex,
   If all you wish to provide is a Web browser simply launch a Web 
browser when the user logs in and provide nothing else - no desktop, 
menues, etc.

  A nice lightweight WM like IceWM would do.

  You can have a "master" firefox profile that is copied every time 
Firefox is launched to reset each session back to "factory."

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> Hello,
> 
> I have my LTSP setup configured and working nicely with the intended use 
> being to soley to provide browser access to folks at my place of work.
> 
> Since the clients could very well be subject to tampering, can you 
> please suggest an approach or strategy to make the sessions read-only? 
> I imagine it like a live-cd -- after the X session is over, settings 
> will start over at the original config.
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp time counter

2007-06-28 Thread Peter Billson
Rudolf,
   I have set up timed LTSP systems in a number of public libraries for 
4 or 5 years now.

   The system uses a mysql back end to track the time, number of 
sessions per day, etc. and xscreensaver as the locking mechanism, with a 
bunch of scripts that do the heavy lifting such as warnings, time 
renewals, etc.

   Some problems:
  This isn't exactly what you are looking for. You probably want a 
new session for each user whereas in the libraries, the same session is 
used all day. Some modifications would be needed to log the student out 
instead of just locking the session.

There is also the problem of a student losing their work if they 
ignore the warning messages, don't save their work and the system logs 
them out.

Everything is GPL'd but the documentation is virtually non-existent.

If you are interested I can post everything on the Web and you can 
have a whack at it. I'd be glad to help where I can.


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Rudolf Rittmann wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm looking for help regarding time controlled logins to ltsp 
> workstations. I have ltsp 4.2 with Fedora Core 6 installed, 
> authentication is done through LDAP.
> This is for a proposed public access solution at one of our educational 
> institutions, with about 8000 students. The plan is to start off with a 
> 30 station solution and than expand at a later stage.
> 
> What remains a big issue is that with these limited resources available, 
> we would like to give as many students as possible access to a 
> workstation per day.
> Which means that we need to limit the time these guys spend on a 
> workstation to maximum 1 hour per day, they should not be able to login 
> again for that day, inactivity logout, say after 10 min, etc
> 
> I know there is no easy solution nor off the self solution to this, but 
> could be done with some scripts. Now this is where the problem comes in. 
> My scripting is not great, not even at entry level, but I know 
> somethings could be done with linux through "last", finger, etc.
> 
> I need you help, any suggestion would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thnks,
> 
> Rudolf
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[Ltsp-discuss] Flash 9

2007-02-15 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing very large (i.e. 
30-50Mb) temp files with the new Flash 9 player?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltspfs debian w/ bacported kernel

2006-12-22 Thread Peter Billson
Trond,
I am working from memory here so I am sorry that I do not have 
complete details.

I believe the trouble was in libfuse and not the kernel module.

Took me a long time to figure it out because everything in Scott's 
checklist works OK, except the directory is empty.

   If you run the server-side LTSP script that runs to mount the remote 
media, it complains about an invalid option or something like that.

   That led me to downloading the newest fuse source and installing it. 
It fixed the problem *however* the newer fuse will not work with older 
kernels

   Sorry I can't be more specific.

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Trond Mæhlum wrote:
> Peter Billson wrote:
>> Trond,
>>I ran into this myself. Trouble seems to be that FUSE found in Debian 
>> stable is not compatable with the later 2.6.xx kernels.
>>
>>Downloading the FUSE source and compiling it solved the problem for me.
> 
> My backported 2.6.15 kernel already have the fuse module. How do I do 
> this then? Can you give me something more top go on?
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltspfs debian w/ bacported kernel

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Billson
Trond,
   I ran into this myself. Trouble seems to be that FUSE found in Debian 
stable is not compatable with the later 2.6.xx kernels.

   Downloading the FUSE source and compiling it solved the problem for me.

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Trond Mæhlum wrote:
> I am running Debian Edu with ltsp-4.2. It's a new Dell server, so I am 
> using a backported 2.6.15 kernel.  I have most things running, but local 
> devices show up empty. The icon appears on my desktop, but all the 
> content on my usb-stick is gone.
> 
> If I boot the server from my other HP server running the same setup on 
> 2.6.8 kernel, everything is fine.
> 
> I have checked permissions and I am a member of 'fuse'. It must be 
> something else... Can anyone help me with this one?
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Dell Optiplex GX110 issues

2006-11-16 Thread Peter Billson
Stefan,
   1) For the NFS trouble have you tried this from the wiki? 
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-mount-problems


   2) In the BIOS there is an option for how much memory to use for the 
video. The default 1Mb has given me problems. Choose the higher value.

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Stefán István wrote:
> Yes, I upgraded it to A09, but the problem remains. It still says during the 
> boot, that the nfs server not responding, still trying.
> 
> szerda 15 november 2006 16.51 dátummal Frank Bergmann ezt írta:
>> Quite interesting. Mine run right away. Do you updated the BIOS to the
>> latest version?
>> Frank
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>> Betreff: [Ltsp-discuss] Dell Optiplex GX110 issues
>>
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I bought a dell optiplex gx110 machine, and I have two problems with it:
>>
>> 1. The ethernet controller installed on the mainboard (3com 3c905c-tx/tx-m) 
>> doesn't want to work. During boot it says that the nfs server not
>> responding. I put an other ethernet card in the machine, and this boots
>> well. 
>>
>> 2. X doesn't want to start, in the log I found this:
>> (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Too many levels of symbolic
>> links)
>> (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available.  Make sure your kernel has
>> agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded.
>>
>> There is no agp in this machine, so I don't understand why does X want to
>> load 
>> the agp module?
>>
>> Thanks for the help in advance,
>> Istvan
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LBUSd not running in SUSE9.2

2006-10-07 Thread Peter Billson
[snip]
> On the HP Server the USB flash drive shows up under $HOME/Drives/KINGSTON, 
> but 
> when I try to list the directory, it is empty. I tried several different USB 
> flashram devices (different sizes, different brands) with the same 
> non-result. At no time did I see the fuse module load and my .lbussd.out file 
> looks very similar to the one below.

If the directory is empty but everything else works the problem is with 
the fuse installation.

The fuse module does not load automatically. You need to  load it 
yourself with "modprobe fuse" After that a "lsmod" should show the fuse 
module loaded. If it does not, there is something wrong with the module.

If it does show, do a ls -l /dev/fuse This should exist with the correct 
permissions (see the wiki)

If this does exist run:
"/usr/sbin/lbus_event_handler.sh add block /tmp 1024 Temp"

   Do you get any errors such as "Invalid option." If so, there is a 
problem with your fuse installation.


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[Ltsp-discuss] Supporting Two Languages

2006-10-05 Thread Peter Billson
Hello list,
 I am setting up a LTSP system in a library that has a large Korean
population and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for
supporting this user-group.

   I was thinking about possibly running two X-sessions, one in English,
one in Korean on  each workstation but, having never done this, have no
idea where to get started.

  Any suggestions/tips/URLS would be welcome.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP/Dan's Guardian/Squid/iptables configuration.

2006-09-25 Thread Peter Billson
Ken,
   I believe that the problem with your rules is that the redirect 
depends on the packets coming IN eth0 before they match the rule.

   Web traffic for the clients originates on the server (the browser is 
running on the server) so it never comes in eth0.

   The problem you will run into if you run the proxy on the LTSP server 
is that you need to redirect port 80 traffic from the server to port 
8080 but the proxy traffic also originates from the server.

   You may try a redirecting all port 80 traffic rule that includes an 
inverted user match so that all traffic, except that "owned" by proxy, 
is redirected. You either need to not specify an interface or work with 
traffic as it leaves eth1.

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Ken McGlothlen wrote:
> Hello, there. We're in the process of trying to finish up an LTSP
> installation at a community teen center. We're nearly done, except for
> one little thing.
> 
> All the diskless stations seem to be able to get to the Web unfiltered.
> 
> Of course, we did go to the effort of setting up iptables, squid,
> dansguardian and so on. The LTSP box itself is dual-homed, and we didn't
> think this would be such a problem -- but so far, no joy.
> 
> First, our iptables setup (pardon the length):
> 
> - - - - - -
> # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Mon Sep 25 16:18:05 2006
> *filter
> :INPUT DROP [0:0]
> :FORWARD DROP [0:0]
> :OUTPUT DROP [3:636]
> :DANSGUARDIAN - [0:0]
> :LOGACCEPT - [0:0]
> :LOGDROP - [0:0]
> :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0]
> -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 67 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 67 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 69 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 69 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 111 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 111 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 123 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 123 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 138 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 177 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 177 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 514 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 514 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 631 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 631 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 805 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 805 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 2049 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 2049 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 5353 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 6000:6127 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 6000:6127 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 8080 -j
> LOGACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 8080 -j
> LOGACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -m tcp
> --dport 20 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 631 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 631 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 5353 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 5353 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 67:68 -j
> DROP
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 67:68 -j
> DROP
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 137 -j DROP
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 137 -j DROP
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 138 -j DROP
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m state --state NEW -m udp --dport 138 -j DROP
> -A INPUT -j LOGDROP
> -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
> -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
> -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j
> ACCEPT
> -A OUTPUT -o et

[Ltsp-discuss] USB Floppy Drives

2006-09-17 Thread Peter Billson
Hello *,
   I have an issue using USB floppy drives as local devices.

   If the floppy drive is plugged in before a workstation is started the 
floppy drive does not always get mounted by ltspfs. Sometimes it does, 
sometimes not.

   The drive is always seen during the bootup process - the drive runs, 
and kernel messages are shown on the screen identifying the 
manufacturer, etc.

  Unplugging the USB connector and reconnecting it will make the drive 
accessible.

  I'm guessing that there may be a race condition during boot where 
sometimes the drive is mounted by ltspfs and sometimes not.

  Any suggestions?

  Is there a way to "manually" trigger the hotplug scripts without 
manually unplugging/plugging the drive?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Connection refused on local devices

2006-08-28 Thread Peter Billson
Todd,
   I ran into a problems getting fuse working with the 2.6.17.x kernel 
on Friday. Some Googling found references to a changes in the 2.6.17 
kernel that were causing people some fuse problems.

   Falling back to an older kernel worked for me.

   The description of your problem is different then mine. The 
"connection refused" message sounds like maybe a $DISPLAY/hostname 
mismatch or a username problem?

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Todd Shoemaker wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm experiencing strange behavior with ltspfs.  I ran through the 
> troubleshooting guide, and I succeeded in all steps: remote devices show 
> up on the desktop and an entry is created in ~/Drives.  However, I can't 
> access any data within these directories, or even 'ls -l' ~/Drives', 
> which produces the output below:
> 
> $ ls -l Drives/
> ls: Drives/iRock: Connection refused
> total 0
> 
> I have an mp3 player connected, and everything seems to work except the 
> actual data transfer.  I ran ltspfsd -d on the terminal and piped the 
> output to a file, but no errors are logged.  I also tried the -a option 
> with no change.  I can telnet to the workstation's port 9220 and get a 
> response.
> 
> The caveat is that  I am running a custom 2.6.17.11 kernel on the server 
> with K8/32-bit CPU settings on an AMD64.  The stock fusermount gave me 
> an Invalid parameter (or similar) error, so I installed the latest fuser 
> utils from source (fusermount -V returns 2.5.3).  That allowed the mount 
> to occur, but now the connection refused error arose.  Just for kicks, I 
> downloaded and built ltspfs and then ltspfsd from source, with no change 
> in behavior.
> 
> Will ltspfs run on a 2.6.17 kernel on the server?  Any ideas how I can 
> debug this further?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Todd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Localdev

2006-08-26 Thread Peter Billson
Just to add the solution to the archive:

1) Of course Scott is right that /dev/fuse must exist.

I was doing an ls -l /dev/fuse as a regular, non-fuse group user so 
(of course) couldn't see the file. The /dev/fuse exists on all the 
working systems

2) I was using a custom 2.6.16 kernel under Debian Sarge. The Debian 
Sarge fuse source does not compile cleanly due to a change in i_sem in 
the 2.6.16 kernel.

   I'm not sure why compiling the fuse module as part of the kernel 
didn't work.

  Falling back to an older kernel solved the problem, the Debian fuse 
module compiled cleanly and there was joy all around.

  Thank you Scott for the help.

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Scott Balneaves wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 04:10:12PM -0400, Peter Billson wrote:
>> Here is the output of the diagnistics:
>> #2 - VERSION=4.2 update 3
>> #3 - shows /sbin/lbuscd running
>>  /tmp/drives exists
>>  /tmp/drives/My_Floppy exists but is empty
>> #4 - hostname returns ws7
>> #5 - fstab shows /dev/fd0 /tmp/drives/My_Floppy auto rw,noatime 0 0
>> #7 - user is in fuse group
>> #8 - shows /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/lbussd running
>> #9 - lsmod shows "fuse size 41352 Used by 0"
>>  /dev/fuse did not exist but I created it now shows
>>  crw-rw root fuse 10, 229
>>  (side note: I have working installations that
>>  do not have the /dev/fuse file)
> 
> Nope.  That won't work.  Simply doing a mknod in the /dev directory
> doesn't work anymore.  At least, not on any distro running udev.  Check
> the server's udev rules.
> 
> And it is absolutely, totally, unequivacally impossible for fuse to work
> without a /dev/fuse.  Now, the distro you're on may have chosen to put
> it somewhere else in the dev tree, but it's GOT to be there.  The same
> may apply here.  You've not noted what distro this is on.
> 
> Scott
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Localdev

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Billson
Here is the output of the diagnistics:
#2 - VERSION=4.2 update 3
#3 - shows /sbin/lbuscd running
 /tmp/drives exists
 /tmp/drives/My_Floppy exists but is empty
#4 - hostname returns ws7
#5 - fstab shows /dev/fd0 /tmp/drives/My_Floppy auto rw,noatime 0 0
#7 - user is in fuse group
#8 - shows /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/lbussd running
#9 - lsmod shows "fuse size 41352 Used by 0"
 /dev/fuse did not exist but I created it now shows
 crw-rw root fuse 10, 229
 (side note: I have working installations that
 do not have the /dev/fuse file)
#10 - $DISPLAY=ws7:0.0
#11 - Manually firing the event handler as describe in the wiki
  results in an error:
  fusermount: mount failed: invalid argument

I should note that the devies (i.e. a USB drive) do appear and disappear
in the Drives folder, the directory, however, doesn't show any files.


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> Hello list,
>I am having a weird problem with localdev on a new setup. I've
> installed Scott's new sytem a half dozen times but this time no joy.
>
> Two weird things are happening.
>
> 1) When I insert a USB key, a second floppy drive appears along with the
removable media entry.
>
> 2) The contents of the disks (floppy and USB) doesn't show, even in the
/tmp/drives/My_Floppy on the client. I can manually mount the drives on
the client and can read the contents, so the disk and drive is fine.
>
> Suggestions.
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[Ltsp-discuss] Localdev

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Billson
Hello list,
   I am having a weird problem with localdev on a new setup. I've
installed Scott's new sytem a half dozen times but this time no joy.

Two weird things are happening.

1) When I insert a USB key, a second floppy drive appears along with the
removable media entry.

2) The contents of the disks (floppy and USB) doesn't show, even in the
/tmp/drives/My_Floppy on the client. I can manually mount the drives on
the client and can read the contents, so the disk and drive is fine.

Suggestions.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] don't get card reader to work

2006-08-20 Thread Peter Billson
Michael,
   Please see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev 
for directions on how to enable local devices.

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Michael Hoeller wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I do not get a cardreader for SD-cards to work at a client.. I am using 
> ltsp 4.2u3 / SuSE 9.2 and was under the impression that the only thing 
> I need to do is to set LOCAL_STORAGE = Y  But I guess there is more 
> since I do not see any hint that the SD card is mounted somewhere.
> 
> Here is the lts.conf I use, do still need HOTPLUG?
> 
> [Default]
> SERVER = 192.168.55.200
> NIS_SERVER = 192.168.55.200
> NIS_DOMAIN = ltsp
> XSERVER= auto
> X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL   = "PS/2"
> X_MOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/psaux"
> X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400
> X_MOUSE_BUTTONS= 3
> USE_NFS_SWAP   = N
> SWAPFILE_SIZE  = 48m
> USE_XFS= Y
> LOCAL_APPS = Y
> LOCAL_STORAGE  = Y
> HOTPLUG= Y
> START_SAMBA= Y
> RCFILE_01  = keymaps
> KEYMAP = /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/de-latin1-nodeadkeys
> SCREEN_01  = startx
> SCREEN_02  = shell 
> 
> [ws001]
> XSERVER= ati  
> PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/lp0
> PRINTER_0_TYPE = P   
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] [Fwd: Re: HP thin workstation hangs after a while]

2006-08-03 Thread Peter Billson
Is NBD/NFS swap enabled?

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Tom Barber wrote:
> Forwarded for the rest of the user group to mull over:
> 
> 
> The version I am running is K12ltsp
> So today I did a yum update and yum upgrade ending up with uname -a :
> 2.6.9.-34
> I retried the workstation and had the same problem. I read something in
> wiki.X.org mentioning a Terminal freezing in X sessions: suggestioning
> to enter a parameter in lts.org: USE_NFS_SWAP = Y and SWAPFILE_SIZE =
> 64m
> result is the same.
> 
> The thin client I am using is a new version of HP t5000
> I installed the older version on a similar installation, same version of
> K12ltsp, and it worked and works without problem.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> roland
> 
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:27 +0100, Tom Barber wrote:
>> It may not be the solution but you are running a very outdated version
>> of Centos how about trying an upgrade and see how it goes?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 00:23 +0200, roland brouwers wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I installed a HP thin workstation 5025, who boots with pxe.
>>> After a short while stripes are displayed distroying a part of the
> display. Then the keyboard is locked.
>>> On an other workstation I do: pkill -u username which leaves a few
> tasks still running, which I kill with kill -HUP taskid,
>>> leaving still one task open, the gnome session with a ? mark.
>>>
>>> I restart the thin client and the same scenario starts again.
>>>
>>> This is a centos 2.6.9 installation with ltsp 4.2
>>>
>>> Does anybody has a solution for this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cant use Pendrive in thin clients.

2006-08-03 Thread Peter Billson
Rafael,
The "HOTPLUG =Y" sounds like you are using LTSP 4.1. USB drives did 
not work reliably in 4.1

   Upgrade to LTSP 4.2 and use "LOCAL_STORAGE=Y" where (thanks to Scott) 
removable media works great!

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Rafael Monteiro wrote:
> Hi, i'm having troubles with pen drive at thin clients, but in server it 
> works ok...the problem is just with pendrive, the other usb like printer 
> and keybord is ok at terminal...at the lts.conf i put HOTPLUG = Y , but 
> also pendrive dont work.
> Do u know what it could be??
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] crash again

2006-08-01 Thread Peter Billson
Joe Auerbach wrote:
 > Hard ot say, since this box has no interface.  I manage it via thin
 > clients. I can hook up a monitor and keyboard and what not to test.
 >
 > You're suggesting that a new network card would fix the problem?  that
 > may be.  I'll look into it.


Joe,
   I had a server randomly do this to me (ended up being a Dell RAID bug 
locking up the machine) and my solution to finding the problem was to 
have the server log to another Linux box.

   I also ran top once a minute from cron and sent the output to a file 
so that I could see what was going on before the crash.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltspadmin can't detect 1 of my 2 ethernet cards

2006-07-25 Thread Peter Billson
Erwin,
   ltspadmin will only see interfaces that are configured. It is up to 
the OS to configure the interfaces on boot.

   It sounds like you either have not configured eth0 or it is not set 
to start on boot up.

   Try "ifup eth0"

   If the interface starts up, your problem is that it is not set to 
start on boot.

   If you get errors, the problem is that the interface is not 
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Erwin Quita wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm having problems with ltspcfg, I have 2 realtek-8139 ethernet 
> card. eth0 is not seen/detected and is connected to the switch, while 
> eth1 is ok this one uses dhcp and to internet. I've looked at my pci 
> (using lspci) cards I can see both of my ethernet. Is there a 
> configuration option in ltspadmin to edit and activate my other ethernet 
> card? I was thinking of removing ltsp and installing it again... but I 
> can't seem to find uninstall option when running ltspadmin. Any help 
> would be appreciated. Thanks!
> 
> also when I execute ifconfig
> 
> I only see eth1 listed.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] running dhcpd on port 67 \n ERROR! dhcpd failed!

2006-07-25 Thread Peter Billson
RP wrote:
 > D-Link's "collision" light would sometimes go berserk.

   Collision light? On a switch? Sounds like a hub. Using a hub with 
LTSP will almost certainly cause you some grief.

   Hubs/switches will compensate for many network ills, including poor 
wiring but putting a switch/hub at each terminal sounds expensive and 
unreliable.


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[Ltsp-discuss] Tracking Traffic

2006-07-20 Thread Peter Billson
Hello all.
   I wondering if anyone can suggest a way to determine which user is 
using bandwidth on an LTSP system.

   From time to time I have run into situations where a single user is 
hogging bandwidth, but I haven't figured out a way to determine who.

  iftop will show me the connection that is hogging the bandwidth.

   tcpdump will show me the traffic but (of course) it is all going 
between the server and the remote site.

   tcpdump and iftop also show the connection port (i.e. local port 2148 
to remote port 80) but I haven't found a way to connect the port to the 
user.

   When I try using lsof or netstat to list the port, it doesn't show. 
Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

   Finally, using iptables there doesn't seem to be a way to log the 
owner of a packet.

   Any suggestions welcome.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Open Office in ltsp

2006-07-09 Thread Peter Billson
Steve,
   I just ran into this same problem. It appears to occur if some 
workstations are running the kernel from LTSP 4.2 (2.6). The blank error 
problem occurs on the workstations running the old (LTSP 4.1/2.4.x) 
kernel while the workstations running the new (LTSP 4.2/2.6.x) kernel 
work fine.

   Moving all the workstation to the 2.6.x kernel *or* the 2.4.x kernel 
solved the problem.

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steve downes wrote:
> Sorry, I thought I had replied but it's not here. 
> 
> I think it may be a memory problem & as I am not, for different
> reasons, not running a 2.6 kernel on the server at present I swop
> doesn't seem to be working. I think I'll sort out the 2.6 kernel &
> start again.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:06:19 +0200
> Eilert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Steve Downes schrieb:
>>> Just setup ltsp on my new server. At present it only has 1
>>> terminal. This works OK except when I open open office writer it opens
>>> a window, no blank file & when I try & load a file OO crashes after
>>> displaying a blank error message. I've since installed XFS & a bigger
>>> swop file to no effect. 
>>>
>>> OO loads fine on a non ltsp machine logged into the server via gdm so
>>> it would seem to be ltsp related. 
>>>
>>> Anybody experienced this before I scratch my head still further
>>> please.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> OS  = debian stable
>>> ltsp= 4.2
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Just a few questions:
>>
>> - how much RAM does the terminal have? If very few, do you have enough 
>> swap space for the terminal?
>>
>> - what about the graphics card of the terminal? I have a few very old 
>> terminals with kinda exotic graphics setup which only run under the old 
>> xfree drivers with 4.1, so I boot them separately (and with NFS swap).
>>
>> All in all, OOo doesn't make trouble here, first in RAM consumption is 
>> Firefox...
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] IceWM vs Gnome

2006-07-06 Thread Peter Billson
Verified.

But it is like comparing the gas mileage of a Ferrari to a Mini.

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Sudev Barar wrote:
> May be sligthly OT here.but I recently installed Ubuntu6.06 with
> LTSP on a AMD-Athlon64bit Dual Core machine with 1000mbps ethernet on
> board and fast SCSI drive plus 4gb RAM.
> 
> With gnome desktop running and ~20 users online I saw constant load
> level between 10-20 as reported by top. I thereafter changed the
> default windown manager to IceWM for all users and now the load level
> reported by top under same conditions is <2 all day long!
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Relaunching firefox

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Billson
Don,
   Remember that the ~/.xsession file overrides the system one. It is 
not added to the system file.
   You need to make sure that your .xsession file doesn't exit because 
once it exits, your session will end.
   You may want to try running the .xsession by hand to see why it is 
exiting.

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Don Robertson wrote:
> Cheers for that - almost what I want :-)
> 
> The problem I am having is removing the lock files. If i put *Anything* 
> in a ~/.xsession file, I can no longer log in. The display manager 
> relaunches itself and gives the login prompt again.
> 
> I am using KDE, and have looked at the xsession.options - it should be 
> allowing a .xsession file.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Peter Billson wrote:
>> Don,
>>   Launch Firefox from a script that simply relaunches it when closed.
>>
>>   You can find such a script at: http://www.elbnet.com/libsys-2006/parts/
>>
>>   as well as an example xsession file.
>>
>>
>> Pete Billson
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] copying ltsp config files between servers fails

2006-06-20 Thread Peter Billson
Gavin,
   If I am not mistaken, the missing 'packages.list' is found on the 
LTSP repository, not on your server.

   If you are manually coping the entire LTSP tree over to the new 
server, there really is not reason to change where ltspadm points to. 
When you run ltspadm it will see what it needs and compare it to what 
you already have.


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Gavin Chester wrote:
> I have two (potential) ltsp servers/workstations on dialup.  I
> downloaded ltspadmin and then used it to grab all the necessary ltsp
> files (tgz files) to the first PC.  Then I went through the
> configuration/installation via ltspcfg.  Then I tried copying all the
> ltsp tgz files from /opt/lstp across to the second server by burning to
> a CD and recreating the same directory structure as ltspcfg gave the
> first server.  
> 
> I then ran ltspcfg on this second server, pointing it to the directory
> of files, as per the install guide.  However, the script fails,
> complaining that 'packages.list' can not be found.  I searched on the
> first server and can't find such a file.  The closest is 'packages.db'.
> In desperation, I tried copying this file and giving it that other name
> and put in a couple of dirs under /opt/ltsp/ but it still gives the same
> complaint.  Any clues why this isn't working?  Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Relaunching firefox

2006-06-20 Thread Peter Billson
Don,
   Launch Firefox from a script that simply relaunches it when closed.

   You can find such a script at: http://www.elbnet.com/libsys-2006/parts/

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Don Robertson wrote:
> Greetings,
> I have seen a posting about this but cannot find it now I need it :-(
> 
> We have some public terminals that basically run firefox for our library 
> catalog. Many of our users shutdown firefox when they are finished, and 
> some of the less experienced users cannot launch it again.
> 
> When this happen, I would like firefox to relaunch.
> 
> If anyone can help me out with this, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Firewall

2006-06-18 Thread Peter Billson
Daryl,
You will want to edit /etc/network/interfaces

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Daryl Hobbs wrote:
> I want to use a pc as a firewall for a thin client terminal server. I 
> have the debian pc connected to the internet through a nic (eth0) and I 
> want to use a second nic to connect to a thin client terminal server. At 
> the moment I can connect to the internet through a router/dsl modem. In 
> the interfaces file I see loopback and eth0. When I initially install 
> debian it showed two nics and asked which nic I wanted to use. How do I 
> initialize the second nic and get it talking to the sever?
> Any help will be welcome,
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Screensaver

2006-06-12 Thread Peter Billson
Marco,
   Depending on your client hardware you may use either the X_DPMS 
values in lts.conf:
X_DPMS_STANDBYTIME =
X_DPMS_SUSPENDTIME =
X_DPMS_OFFTIME =

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Marco Nätlitz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i got a running LTSP-Server and several clients. I use Gentoo 2005.1  
> on the server. The windows manager is IceWM. My problem is now the  
> screen. How can I tell the clients X-Server to turn out the screens  
> after 20 minutes inactivity. The monitor gets black after 10 minutes,  
> but is not send into sleep mode.
> 
> Has anyone an idea?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RAM quotas

2006-06-09 Thread Peter Billson
Daniel,
   Yes, using limits.

   See man limits

   See /etc/security/limits.conf (Debian) other distros may be under 
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Daniel Carrera wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been trying to figure out if there's a way to assign RAM quotas to 
> users. So you couldn't have a single user hogging up all the RAM, or 
> having one process go haywire and ruin the system for all 60 users.
> 
> I would love it if I could have quotas for not just RAM but also CPU and 
> swap. Is this at all possible?
> 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Migration to LTSP 4.2: don't read [Default] section

2006-05-28 Thread Peter Billson

Denis,
  Did you change your dhcpd.conf file so that root points to the 4.2 
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DenisG wrote:

Hi list

I'm migrating to 4.2. I downloaded and executed ltspadmin, everything
was fine, I copied my old lts.conf in ltsp-4.2 dir.
My client boots, during boot I can see his hostname is correct, but it
seems not to read [Default] section in lts.conf. It contains that:

[Default]
SERVER = 192.168.0.13
XSERVER= auto
X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL   = "ImPS/2"
X_MOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/psaux"
X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400
X_MOUSE_BUTTONS= 3
USE_XFS= N
SCREEN_01  = startx
SCREEN_02 = shell
XkbModel= "pc105"
XkbLayout   = "fr-latin9"
DISABLE_ACCESS_CONTROL = Y

But I get a qwerty keyboard, a very fast mouse and can't CTRL-ALT-F2.

What did I forget in upgrading to 4.2?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Local Drives and video trouble

2006-05-28 Thread Peter Billson

Krishna,
  If you are getting "mode not supported" from your monitor it sounds 
like your video card is working but the monitor you are using does not 
support the video mode.


 Try adding an X_MODE_0 line (i.e. X_MODE_0  = 800x600) to your 
lts.conf file to select a video mode that your monitor can display or 
use a different monitor.


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Krishna Murphy wrote:

Jim-

I have a newproblem with that setting (monitor = "mode not supported" and 
reports the H-freq as 53.7KHz, V-freq as 85.1 Hz.) If I put a # at the 
beginning of the line and comment it out, it will still fall back to VESA 
and boot up - and I can see the xorg.log either way. However I don't have 
ftp to the server when I am in that shell, so I can't send it to you. I do 
see "chipset KM400/KN400 not found" there under the via setting, which I 
assume is the problem. Is the latest version from the unichrome website? 
Maybe I could use the VT7205 driver, if available, as that seems to be the 
one needed for this chip (see http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/).


-Krishna

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Jim McQuillan wrote:

Krishna,

for via unichrome, you need:

   XSERVER = via


If you want to see the logfile, it exists in a ramdisk on the thin client.  You
can't see it from the server.  You need to set:

SCREEN_01 = shell

Then, when you boot the client, you'll get a shell prompt.  at that point, type
'startx' and it will attempt to run the Xserver.  When it fails, then you can go
look at /tmp/mnt/X.log

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Petre, Sudev, Jim, et. al.:

Thanks again for all your help. I've now got it to at least read the
section of lts.conf that relates to the host now named ws079, but it gives
a fatal error when booting into X, with reference to a log I can't find
(/tmp/mnt/X.log or something like that - neither/var/log/, /tmp/, nor
/opt/ltsp/ contain anything related AFAIK.) I guess I really need to know
what video to specify for a VIA Unichrome device, if that's included in
the video section available, or load a new driver. I suppose I'll like the
non-slow non-VESA compatibility mode performance better than what I'm
getting now.

-Krishna

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Petre Scheie wrote:

Put this in /etc/dhcpd.conf and then restart dhcpd:

host ws079 {
 hardware ethernet00:16:ec:1d:6c:49;
fixed-address   192.168.1.79;
}

There are other parameters that can be added, but this will get you started.

Petre

Krishna Murphy wrote:
  

Dear Sudev:

Thanks!

I thought that it being identified by its NIC, and then as 192.168.1.79


would
  

be sufficient to make the numeric portion of [ws079] the link between


the two.
  

How does one enter the hostname in the dhcpd.conf?
-Krishna

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Sudev Barar wrote:

On 26/05/06, Krishna Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Jim-

Thanks! I'll put some ***s before my responses, below.

-Krishna

  

Krishna an inline bottom posting would work much better ;-)




I'm guessing that the specific workstation doesn't know it's own
  

hostname.
  

Or,
it doesn't match what you've put in [] in the lts.conf file.
  

[SNIP]

In the section below of lts.conf you are giving a host name ws079




[ws079]
XSERVER = savage
X_MODE_0 = 800x600
X_MODE_1 = 640x480
X_MODE_2 = 1024x768
SCREEN_02 = shell
  

[SNIP]



Here's the dhcpd.conf:


___
# dhcpd.conf

  

[SNIP]



host test1 {
hardware ethernet 00:16:ec:1d:6c:49;
fixed-address 192.168.1.79;
filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0";
}
if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = "PXEClient" {
filename "/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2";
}

  

But you are not defining the host name in dhcpd.conf above. You neet
to add a line  like within the curly brackets for each host:

option host-name "test1";

I hope this should solve the problem.




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] workstation boot splash on S3 8MB video cards

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Billson

Nadav,
1)  Since you are getting the Windows 98 Splash screen, you probably 
want to mess with the Windows Splash rather then the LTSP Splash.


  See http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200012/ai_ziff4106 
for a good "how-to."



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Nadav Kavalerchik wrote:

Hi All :-)

I'm using s3 video cards with 8M ram on the workstations and I'd like to have 
a nice "linux is booting..." boot splash screen instead of the "windows 98" 
boot screen we have currently.
we have this windows boot screen because the harddisks have windows 98 
installed and I'm using the harddisks to load an autoexec.bat menu in which 
the students can choose to load windows or "etherboot roms" and get the ltsp 
workstation up and running


anyways, i tried the special made kernel but no mode could boot the WS with 
graphical boot splash . (i followed the instructions ... 
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootsplashPatch)


i keep getting this error: "graphic mode is not supported ! do you want to 
scan for another mode or use one from the list:..." (i tried all of them, of 
course)


any ideas ?

kindly,
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Why no open-source TS server for Windows?

2006-05-22 Thread Peter Billson

Fred,
  Do you mean you are looking for a Linux Terminal Server Project?

  Sounds like a good idea!

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Fred wrote:

Hello

Since LTSP and rdesktop (the open-source TS client for Windows) are 
available, and considering how costly it is to install Windows Server 
and buy TS licenses... I was wondering why there's no project to build 
an open-source alternative to Terminal Server on Windows?


Thank you
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Paralel printer problem

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Billson

Jim.
  My luck. :-/

  This was a working 4.1 installation that I switched to 4.2 and it 
works great with using USB.


  I must have flubbed something with the PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY = Y line.

  I'm happy using the USB but next time I'm over there I'll give it 
another try for testing purposes. For now, I'd ignore my response.


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Jim McQuillan wrote:

Pete,

Wow.  So far, you are the only one reporting that it didn't fix the 
problem.


I've received at least 6 replies from people who claim this has fixed 
the problem for them.


Maybe something deeper is going wrong with yours.

Jim.


Peter Billson wrote:

Jim,
  I had tried the PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY = Y on three different 
printer/client combos but had no joy.


  I use the USB printing to work-around the problem.

  Sorry.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Paralel printer problem

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Billson

Jim,
  I had tried the PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY = Y on three different 
printer/client combos but had no joy.


  I use the USB printing to work-around the problem.

  Sorry.

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Jim McQuillan wrote:
For everybody having trouble with parallel printers on LTSP-4.2, I have 
a simple fix that should help you.


In your lts.conf file, try adding this line:

   PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY = Y

This has been helpful for 2 people already today, and if I get feedback 
from several others saying that it fixed the problem, then I'll make 
that setting the default.


Thanks,
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Centro de Gestión Informática wrote:

Hello all,

I have the same problem with an ink jet parallel printer. I think the 
problem is in the 'lp_server' daemon.
If I connect a dot matrix parallel printer or a usb printer, it works. 
But if I connect an ink jet parallel printer (EPSON C43 SX), it 
doesn't work.
With all the printers I test, I can cat a file and send to the 
/dev/lp0 or /dev/usb/lp0 depending on the printer type.
With de ink jet parallel printer, I can telnet to the terminal on port 
9100, before of that if i try to cat a file to /dev/lp0 it responds 
'Device is busy'. That means the daemon is listening, but doesn't 
print anything.


Thanks.

El jue, 11-05-2006 a las 10:16 -0300, Everson Santos Araujo escribió:

Hello all,


I think I'm too old... :) But anyway, I can't print on a parallel
printer using LTSP 4.2 with usb printers it's all ok.

Being more specific:

In terminal, dmesg shows that parpport0 is linked to lp0, the printer
type is detected, I can cat a file and send to the /dev/lp0 and it's
printed. But when I go to the cups and send some page trough it...
nothing happens, it doesn't get printed.

I can telnet to the terminal in port 9100... The /var/log/cups/error_log
doesn't print nothing usefull. I can see the socket jobs gets open
listing 'ps aux | get sock' and the 'netstat -an | grep 9100' shows the
socket with the estabilished connection to the right ip.

The terminal knows it name, and the ip address is correctly assigned. I
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Local device compatability between ltsp 4.1 amd 4.2

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Billson

John,
  I just did this and did not run into any problems.

  Of course, your mileage may vary.

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John McMonagle wrote:

Managed to get local device support working  on a test system with ltsp 4.2.

Now it's time to try it for real.
Like to test to make sure I have everything working properly without
interfering with the old local device support.

My main concern is to run both methods at once will need to have both
server scripts in place. Will this cause problems?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Syslog error message appears on users X Desktop!

2006-05-06 Thread Peter Billson

Joe,
  You can use Xmessage to send messages to users' desktops.

  Putting it in a simple script that loops through everyone who is 
logged in would take care of notifying everyone.


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Joe Baker wrote:



Joe Baker wrote:

This is a rare occurance, but it is really wierd.
Error Message echoed to user's screen from syslog "Kwrited Listening 
on device /dev/pts/13"  One of those Donald Becker messages about 
being the author of the network card driver.  This occurred when 
another ltsp thin client running 4.1 was booting up.


I've always wanted to know how to


 write out broadcast messages to ltsp user screens to ask them for 
example to log out of Firefox during an upgrade.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Local device problems

2006-05-04 Thread Peter Billson

Alistair,
  When I ran into the "no content" problem it was because I had 
forgotten to add the user to the fuse group.


  Be sure to reboot the client after adding the user to the fuse group 
before testing again.


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Alistair Crust wrote:

I have been through the troublshooting guide and everything seems to be
Ok. However I am having the following problems:
1/ When the devices are mounted (icons on the screen) they have no
contents when explored
2/ Mounting a device once and then removing it disables a further mount
of a similar device (usb tested). Even though the mount and unmount of a
Temp works as directed in troubleshooting.
We are using Ubuntu and have NFS set up from a separate home server,
Any ideas to try?



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[Ltsp-discuss] 4.2 Local Device Support

2006-05-03 Thread Peter Billson

Scotty,
  Just wanted to say that the local device support for 4.2 is simply 
awesome! Works *perfectly* right out of the box.


  Great job!

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] School-linux in Norway - problem with videocard

2006-04-30 Thread Peter Billson

Olaf,
  1) I believe these should use the i810 driver.

  2) I have had trouble with Dell Optiplex machines because the default 
BIOS setting for the video card memory was set to 1Mb. Setting it to 8Mb 
solved the trouble.


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Olaf Danielsen wrote:


Hey everyone!
 
We are running a thinclient server with ltsp ver 4.3 and most pc's work 
just fine.
But I have some problemes with Dell Optiplex PC's with an Intel 
integrated videocard ( Intel® 82845G Graphics Controller).
 
When I boot up the thinclient, I get the error:
 
"WARNING: Autoprobe of the videocard faild. Continue with the slow vesa 
driver."
 
After this I get the logonscreen, but the fonts are impossible the read, 
and after logout, the screen turns black.
I found the linux driver for the videocard on the web, but how can I 
install this driver on the thinclient-server?
 
I have tried the tips with specifying in the lts.conf file, but  it 
seems to me I need to install the driver on the server, and then

specify in the lts.conf
 
Anyone with a tips, I would be very pleased :)
 
Yours faithfully
 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] [Fwd: Your message to Ltsp-discuss awaits moderator approval]

2006-04-30 Thread Peter Billson

Roland,
  See the Wiki article:
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev

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Roland Brouwers CAT wrote:


Hello,

Can anybody tell me how a USB memory stick can be mounted on a
thinclient,ltsp workstation, booted with pxe?

Thanks


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] firewalls and ltsp

2006-04-13 Thread Peter Billson

Don,
  The quick and easy way to limit the OPACs to just a few sites is to 
use the Web browser's proxy settings.


  On the OPACs set a non-existent machine as the proxy and list the 
sites you want to allow access to as exceptions. The browser will put up 
an error for any site not listed as a exception.


  I use the .xession file to launch the browser on boot using a script 
that will relaunch it if it is closed.


  Also you will want to lock down the browser so patrons can't adjust 
the preferences, etc.


  If you'd like copies of the browser.jar or .xsession files I use, let 
me know.


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Don Robertson wrote:

One thing that I am wondering about. We will be wanting to have
different groups of LTSP users and machines with different access
permissions. One set of machines will be to browse our WebOPAC catalogue
only, and will have almost no access to the internet.

Other machines will be able to browse the internet and intranet -
including home shares etc.

Unless I am missing something, all the clients have the same IP address
as the LTSP server, making it hard to create firewall rules to limit
access to specific machines.

Is there a way to make the clients run under different IP addresses?




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Sleep on LAN or Ether-halt?

2006-03-31 Thread Peter Billson

Roy,
  Look at ltspinfo that Jim wrote. It will reboot/shutdown (and more) 
the terminals remotely.


http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspinfoTips

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Roy Souther wrote:
  Has anyone written a program to cause a system to sleep/halt/reboot by 
sending it a TCP or UDP command? I would like it to be along the same 
lines as ether-wake, a simple C or C++ program that is small and does 
not use a lot of libraries.


I need this for my terminal network. I have been using a simple bash 
script that all terminals just read the contents of a file on the NFS 
server. When they see their MAC address the terminal shuts down. This is 
a simple bash script but only works with terminals. I am going to need a 
sleep on LAN program that will work with other systems also.


I will write one if there is not one yet.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP Java Enabled

2006-03-31 Thread Peter Billson

Walter,
   Try typing "about:plugins" in the address bar of both the working 
Linux/Firefox/Java/LTSP browser and the non-working one and compare the 
output.


   Perhaps Java is a different version or it is not correctly installed 
on the non-working one.


  Java is enabled in the preferences?

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walter crandall wrote:
We have an LTSP client with Java enabled in Firefox and attempting to 
connect to MCI Weblab/E-Meeting. The client cannot connect to the 
session due to an error that meeting manager cannot be installed because 
jave is not enabled in the browser. The problem is that Java IS enabled 
in the browser.


Testing the connections using Firefox and Windows PC works fine. As 
additional testing we have a LTSP client and server in our office and 
can connect to same meeting with out error using Firefox with same 
settings.


Any ideas as to what might be going on with Java and or are we barking 
up the wrong tree?


Many Thanks,
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Retaining the individual IP Addresses

2006-03-22 Thread Peter Billson
Kelly,
  Log in to the terminal, start up a terminal window and type echo
$DISPLAY. It will tell you the name you want to put between the [].


Kelly Solomon said:
> Thank you,
>>
>> That makes perfect sense, but let me go a little further and maybe you
>> can shed some more light on this.
>>
>> I am trying to get a workstation to login automatically. My DHCP.conf is
>> located on the dhcp server which is not the same as the terminal
>> server.  So far, I have three PC's successfully booting from floppies
>> and I am able to login to the terminal server from each one.  (These
>> PC's normally dual boot to Linux and/or Windows and have static
>> addresses.)  So, to avoid confusion, I set up the dhcpd.conf file to
>> give those three workstations(PC's) their usual IP addresses.)  Like the
>> following:
>>
>> #Kelly's terminal
>> host ws001 {
>> hardware ethernet 00:50:FC:84:DX:EX;
>> fixed-address 192.168.1.188;
>> filename  "lts/vmlinuz-2.4.26-ltsp-3";
>>}
>>
>> #Another terminal
>> host ws002{ etc.
>>
>> (Everything works fine to this point.)
>>
>> Then, to allow my workstation to auto login, I added to the file
>> /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc the following lines:
>>
>> /[X-ws001:0-Core]
>> AutoLoginEnable=true
>> AutoLoginUser=kelly
>> ClientLogFile=.xsession-errors
>>
>> [X-ws188:0-Core]
>> AutoLoginEnable=true
>> AutoLoginUser=kelly
>> ClientLogFile=.xsession-errors
>>
>> [Xdmcp]
>> Enable=true
>> Willing=/opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xwilling
>> Xaccess=/opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xaccess/
>>
>> (I wasn't sure if my workstation was considered ws001 or ws188 since the
>> IP (188) was assigned in dhcpd.conf, so I added both.  Can you tell me
>> how I can tell which it should be?)
>>
>> I know this file is being read because changes to the greet string are
>> reflected when I made them.  Yet, when I reboot the workstation, I still
>> get a login screen.  I've read all the hints I could find on the
>> subject, but I must be missing something.
>>
>> I really appreciate any help.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Peter Billson wrote:
>> Kelly Solomon said:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm new to LTSP and running slackware 10.2 on the server and LTSP 5.1.
>>>
>>> My understanding so far is that every terminal logging into the server
>>> uses the initial IP address (from the DHCP server) to simply reach the
>>> Term Server. After that the IP address of the server is used for every
>>> workstation.  Is this correct?
>>>
>>> If so, is there any way for the workstations to retain their own IP
>>> addresses after logging into the server?
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly,
>>  Not quite right.
>>
>>  Each terminal has its own IP address and keeps it.
>>
>>  What happens is that once you are in an X session all the processes are
>> actually running on the server, not the terminal, so any network traffic
>> generated by those processes (i.e. Net traffic from a Web browser) will
>> appear to be (and actually will be) coming from the server's IP.
>>
>>
>> Pete Billson
>>
>
>




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Retaining the individual IP Addresses

2006-03-22 Thread Peter Billson
Kelly Solomon said:
> Hello,
> I'm new to LTSP and running slackware 10.2 on the server and LTSP 5.1.
>
> My understanding so far is that every terminal logging into the server
> uses the initial IP address (from the DHCP server) to simply reach the
> Term Server. After that the IP address of the server is used for every
> workstation.  Is this correct?
>
> If so, is there any way for the workstations to retain their own IP
> addresses after logging into the server?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly


Kelly,
 Not quite right.

 Each terminal has its own IP address and keeps it.

 What happens is that once you are in an X session all the processes are
actually running on the server, not the terminal, so any network traffic
generated by those processes (i.e. Net traffic from a Web browser) will
appear to be (and actually will be) coming from the server's IP.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] GDM Autologin

2006-03-06 Thread Peter Billson
Now that I have it working, I want to get rid of it. I'm in a 
library/kiosk terminal situation, and it seems like a real
waste of resources to autologin, but then autologout in case the patron 
just walked away with their credit card number in a cache somewhere in 
the browser (I rebuild the home directory each time). So our machines 
sit there and cycle through the login process. Ugh.


Does anyone know a way to remotely login or logout a kiosk machine with 
GDM? It would be great if the librarians
could just start a session on one of the kiosk machines without having 
to hand out passwords  or walk over to the

machine to start the session.

Joe,
  I use xscreensaver and PAM mySQL (and KDM but GDM would work too) to 
control the patron's sessions.


 1)  The kiosk uses autologin when started then the screensaver locks 
the screen.


 2) Depending on the library, the patron gets a password from either a 
librarian or by scanning their library card at a self-serve terminal.


 3) When the password is assigned a script is run to clean up the 
previous  session - i.e. close all open programs, delete any saved 
files, etc.


 4) After the user logs in, the password is changed so the one the 
patron knows is no longer valid.


 5) The station re-locks in one of three ways:
 a) If the patron walks away the screensaver will activate
re-locking the station
 b) I provide a "Log Out" icon that cleans up the patron's session
and activates the screensaver.
 c) A timer script activates the screensaver when the patron's
allotted time is up.


 6) I have set up a script so that the library can deactivate the 
screensaver without passwords (like when the library is giving a class) 
but the problem I have found in using this generally is that in the rush 
after school kids will just pounce on an open computer. The kid who 
requested the session often finds someone sitting at the computer that 
the librarian just assigned to him/her.



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] cpu

2006-02-27 Thread Peter Billson

Sal,
  Sounds normal.

  The disk is basically always reading or writing (load average 1.0) 
while rsyncing


  Then there is the work comparing, compressing, etc.

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sal singh wrote:

Dear Friends,

I have seen when I run "rsync" to copy data from LTSP server to Backup
machine the load avergage at LTSP server is goes beyond1.5. Also the
%cpu taken by rsync is more than 50% at LTSP server at most of the
time when rsync is running.  Pls inform if this is normal, if not what
steps should be taken by me.

I am using LTSP ver 3.0 with redhat 9 with 2GB memory.

Thanks

With Best Wishes
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Hanging when more than one terminal is logged on

2006-02-27 Thread Peter Billson




Heh, that was my first shot-in-the-dark too, but no, different logins
Cheers
GL 



I have created this problem by assigning the same IP address to two 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] memory

2006-02-23 Thread Peter Billson

Sal,
  1) Add up the totals in Free, Buffers and Cache - that is the amount 
of "free" memory you have available for use. Unused memory is "wasted" 
so the kernel uses available memory for things likes disk cache until it 
is needed for something "important."
   What you are truly interested in is making sure you are not swapping 
to disk a lot. Run something  like 'vmstat 5' to watch what is going on, 
paying attention to the SI and SO (swap in/swap out). Occasional 
swapping in normal (and good) but these should be mostly 0, or close to it.



2) Your client (not the server) is running out of memory to display the 
graphical interface. Turning on NFS swap should solve your problem.



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sal singh wrote:

Dear All,

I am using redhat9 and ltsp 3.1 and my LTSP server has 2GB RAM.
When I see TOP it shows 386MB RAM as free memory and the login users
are 8. As per principle of LTSP, 256MB is used by Server and for each
client 70MB is used  hence there should be more memory free.  I would
request if anybody can explain it.

When I tried to open a webpage (of 3mb) on a client machine (having 64
MB RAM), the client reboots everytime after opening the page. When I
opened it on other standalone machine and client having 128MB ram, it
was opening. Please help me why the client was rebooting as Server has
still 386MB free memory.

thanks

With Best Regards
Sal


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] still squid

2006-02-11 Thread Peter Billson

Joe,
  When running LTSP all Firefox instances are running on the server, 
not on the client. That means all Web traffic is coming from the server, 
not from each client.


  Moral of the story is you can not use squid to do what you are trying 
to do unless you run Firefox as a local app, which is a whole 'nother 
can of worms.


  You can either treat all traffic the same or you can use something 
like squidGuard to filter based on username.


Also you have:
acl local-lan0 src 100.100.100.2/255.255.255.0
acl local-lan1 src 100.100.100.113/255.255.255.0
acl local-lan2 src 100.100.100.114

lines #1 and #2 equate to the same thing (100.100.100.0/24)
line #3 needs a netmask i.e. 100.100.100.114/255.255.255.255


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Joe Auerbach wrote:
So after much debate I decided that firefox alone could do what I 
wanted, but not with the flexibility of squid, so I'm still going ot try 
it.


And after about 14 hours of wrestling I got the conf file to the point 
where squid runs.


Now the only problem is that it doesn't actually prevent web access, as 
it is written to do and I don't know why.


That said, here's some info about my network.  I'd like someone to take 
a look at my squid.conf file (linked below) and hopefully we'll figure 
out what's wrong.  I think that it would work fine if it were on hte 
firewall as wrotten, but I can't seem to make it work for the ltsp 
machine (which is where it's running).


the goal is to have specific machines (in an ip range of about 30 
addresses) blocked from web access, but to allow web access for other 
machines.  Ideally the blocked machines would redirect blocked pages to 
a local html file.


Our network is all behind a basic centOS firewall.  The internal ip of 
the firewall is 100.100.100.254 (it's called rossfire).  the ltsp 
machine's address is 100.100.100.2 and it called ltsp. All the thin 
clients have an ip range from 100.100.100.110 through about 
100.100.100.130.  I'm, just testing a few right now and nothing's 
happening.  I'm running a default ltsp setup, really.  Nothing fancy at 
all.

my squid.conf file is at http://www.anivair.com/downloads/squid.conf




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] tftpboot content

2006-02-11 Thread Peter Billson

Tony,
  LTSP installs the files under /tftpboot/lts

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Tony van der Hoff wrote:

I've just been trying to re-install ltsp-4.1 from scratch after a disk
disaster.

I downloaded the ltsp-utils, unpacked it, did su -, ran install.sh, ran
ltspadmin. Everything seemed to work OK; my /usr/local/ltsp looks fine, but
I've got an empty /usr/local/tftpboot (this *is* where tftp is pointed). I
can't see how to get those files installed. 


Has anyone got some clues for me, please?




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] squid

2006-02-10 Thread Peter Billson

Joe,
1)  If you don't have a need to run squid other then for limiting access 
to a few domains there is a *real* easy way to do it without squid.


   Set the Web browser proxy to a non-existent address and list the 
allowed domains as exceptions. Users will receive an error message when 
trying to contact any domain not listed as an exception.


  Of course you will also want to lock down the browser so the user 
can't change the settings.



2) I don't know if squid can limit domain access by itself but it can be 
done combined with squidGuard. If #1 doesn't help you you can see 
examples of a squid.conf and squidGuard.conf I use at 
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files



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Joe Auerbach wrote:
If anyone has squid set up to allow access to only a few domains and 
block all others for a bunch of ltsp machines could you maybe send me a 
(sanitized if you like) copy of your conf file?  I'm having some issues 
with my own and mostly it's because I've never set up a squid conf file 
before so I have no idea what I'm doing.  I'd love to have time to 
experiment with it, but I don't really.   Thanks ahead of time to anyone 
who can help.





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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to load ltspinfod

2006-02-01 Thread Peter Billson

Rolf,
  From the wiki: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspinfoTips

In order to shutdown a LTSP client, do the following
* Edit lts.conf and add ALLOW_SHUTDOWN = Y

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Eilert wrote:

Morning folks,

I'm trying to get the ltspinfo thing running, but for example I get such 
answers:


# ltspinfo -h ws051 --shutdown
Couldn't open connection to ws051:9200: Invalid argument

This leads me to the few wiki indications saying I'd have to start the 
ltspinfod on each client.


The question is: How? :-)

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] USB Printer Not Working

2006-01-30 Thread Peter Billson

What kernel are you using to boot the client?

2.4.x I hope.

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Karl Zander wrote:
Its more then just the print driver.  I had another USB printer, a 
Brother, that also did not work.  I changed to parallel it worked.  Same 
driver.  I think I am missing something in the USB setup on LTSP, I just 
don't know what.  I can not telnet to the printer on port 9100.


--Karl


At 05:12 PM 1/30/2006 -0700, you wrote:

I think I have an HP that gave me some problems. I had to use a
different printer driver.=20

Did you test the printer on a local system?
Did you test it locally on the LTSP server?
Can you telnet to the printer at port 9100?
Do you have syslogd enabled?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP on Debian Sarge 3.1, dhcpd.conf problem

2006-01-25 Thread Peter Billson

Joseph,
  1) Make sure you are using the dhcpd3 package

  2) Assuming that both the LTSP and laptop DHCP is being served over 
the same interface you need to use the shared-subnet declaration:



shared-network WORKSTATIONS {
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {

{all your LTSP stuff}

}
}


shared-network LAPTOPS {
subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.2.2 192.168.2.253;
option subnet-mask255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address  192.168.2.255;
option routers192.168.2.254;
option domain-name-servers192.168.2.254;
option domain-name"foobar.com";
}
}


3) Note that in this example the laptops use a different IP space then 
the LTSP machines and the NIC has been assigned a second IP.


  You *DO NOT* (I repeat DO NOT) want just anyone to be able to hop 
onto your LTSP network.



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Joseph Hesse wrote:

  -->

Hi,

 


I installed LTSP on Debian 3.1 and it works great.

 

I want to allow people to plug their laptops into my network (same 
subnet) and use it as a laptop, not a thin client.


According to the instructions in the sample dhcpd.conf file, I 
uncommented some lines to get:


 


subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {

  range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.150 192.168.0.155;

}

 

Unfortunately either I misunderstood the instructions or they are not 
correct.


My dhcpd server would not start, I got the error, from syslog, that 
“subnet declarations not allowed here.”


 


Any suggestions or pointers would be much appreciated.

 


Joe Hesse

 

 

 




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Still stuck

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Billson

Tom,
  1) It is perfectly normal for the server and clients to run different 
kernels.


  2) It sounds like you do not have the correct Xaccess entry. Take a 
look at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP-XDM and see if 
that helps.


  3) After XDM trys a bunch, do you end up with a gray screen or a 
"host unwilling server unwilling" error?


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Tom Allison wrote:

Still struggling with my xdm login problem.

I noticed that there are different kernel versions posted on the screen
during boot.  my server runs 2.6.12 and it looks like the client runs
2.4.?? with xorg client libraries.  I don't know if this changed, I
think it might have.

So, lacking anything else in terms of hints or suggestions.
How do you run the debug and what might it actually get me in terms of
finding out why my XDM screen keeps trying to start, dying, and then
trying to start again (never really succeeding).


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Radical mouse with no wheel and kernel 2.4

2006-01-18 Thread Peter Billson

Roy,
  In lts.conf set: X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL   = "PS/2"

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Roy Souther wrote:
  If I use a non-wheel mouse with kernel 2.4 the mouse jumps all over 
the screen and the terminal is not usable. The only solution is to have 
kernel 2.6 loaded on systems with non-wheel mice.


I cannot find any setting that I could but in lts.conf that would fix 
this. I want to use kernel 2.4 on all my terminals because it is working 
great with USB memory sticks and printers but this is a problem for 
systems that do not have wheel mice.


What is the setting I can add to the lts.conf to disable the wheel thing 
for just one terminal?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Firefox 1.5 Kisok browser.jar

2006-01-15 Thread Peter Billson

Denis,
  You can easily make modifications as needed.

  The browser.jar file is just a zip file and all the modifications 
(with the exception of disabling the about:config page) have been made 
to the content/browser/browser.xul file in the archive.


   Bookmark menus touch many places (i.e. sidebar, right click context 
menus, etc.) so you can play with want you want to re-enable. I usually 
just turn the bookmark toolbar on (which is not disabled) and let people 
use that to access bookmarks.


To change the file:
- Copy the browser.jar file to somewhere you can work on it (i.e. /tmp)
- Run "unzip browser.jar"
- Using your favorite text editor, edit content/browser/browser.xul
- Search for "Pete" to find the changes I have made
- Items are disable by adding a standard HTML  comment around them so
  to re-enable anything simply remove the comment around it.
- When done zip the file back up using "zip -r browser.jar content/"

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DenisG wrote:

Peter Billson a écrit :
Also for those interested, I have uploaded a locked down (kiosk) 
browser.jar file for Firefox 1.5. You can grab it from

http://www.elbnet.com/ltsp/files/browser.jar


Pete Billson


Hi Pete. Your browser.jar for Fireox 1.07 is great, thanks.
It's what I'm looking for, but you disabled bookmarks, and I'd prefer 
keeping them. I use a locked down bookmark file with usefull URLs.
Is there a way to get them back? Or maybe you have the same browser.jar 
but with bookmarks?...


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[Ltsp-discuss] Firefox and Cups

2006-01-14 Thread Peter Billson
  Does anyone know how to prevent Firefox 1.5 from automatically 
loading all available CUPS printers? I don't want the users to be able 
to select printers I don't want them to use.


  I've looked in about:config but don't see anything promising.

  I've downloaded the source code but don't see a compile switch to 
remove cups support


 Firefox 1.0.7 didn't exhibit this autoload "feature."

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Firefox and Cups - Nevermind

2006-01-14 Thread Peter Billson
Sorry list. I've been searching and searching and searching adn (of 
course) right after I post I find the answer:


in about:config
print.postscript.cups.enabled set to false!

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Peter Billson wrote:
  Does anyone know how to prevent Firefox 1.5 from automatically loading 
all available CUPS printers? I don't want the users to be able to select 
printers I don't want them to use.


  I've looked in about:config but don't see anything promising.

  I've downloaded the source code but don't see a compile switch to 
remove cups support


 Firefox 1.0.7 didn't exhibit this autoload "feature."

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[Ltsp-discuss] Firefox 1.5 Kisok browser.jar

2006-01-14 Thread Peter Billson
Also for those interested, I have uploaded a locked down (kiosk) 
browser.jar file for Firefox 1.5. You can grab it from

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[Ltsp-discuss] ltspfs mount/unmount script

2006-01-14 Thread Peter Billson

  Just a FYI for those that are interested.


  I have put together a script to automatically mount/unmount ltspfs 
shares when a terminal boots. You can grab the script from 
http://www.elbnet.com/ltsp/files/floppy_watch



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] still unable to print

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Billson
Are you booting the client with the 2.6 LTSP kernel by any chance? If so 
try the 2.4.


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Daniel Teixeira wrote:


Hi.
 
I'm using ltsp 4.1 and a ll modules are up to date.
 
I am trying to configure a workstation with a local paralel printer, but 
with no success!
 
my /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf is:
 
[Default]

...
RCFILE_01  = rc.local
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/lp0
PRINTER_0_TYPE = P
PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
...
...
...
[192.168.95.221]
SCREEN_01  = ./tec_a
SCREEN_02  = ./tec_b
...
...
 
 
Also I've corrected the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.sysinit file:
 
TYPE_0=${PRINTER_0_TYPE}

TYPE_1=${PRINTER_1_TYPE}
TYPE_2=${PRINTER_2_TYPE}
 
before they where like this:

TYPE_0=${PRINTER_1_TYPE}
TYPE_1=${PRINTER_2_TYPE}
TYPE_2=${PRINTER_3_TYPE}
 
 
when i try to telnet port 9100 on the workstation i still get:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# telnet 192.168.95.221 9100

Trying 192.168.95.221...
Connected to 192.168.95.221.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
 
I know that the printer, paralel port and the cable are all working.


 
PLEASE HELP!

THANKS
 
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[Ltsp-discuss] Keyboard Source

2006-01-12 Thread Peter Billson

Can anyone suggest a source in the US for keyboards with USB ports?

I'm looking for "normal" (i.e. not billion-button "multimedia", not 
"ergonomic", not $100 each, etc.) black keyboards with one or two USB ports.


I'd like to use them so users can use flash drives on thin clients that 
don't have easily accessible USB ports.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: LTSP + Ruby?

2005-11-18 Thread Peter Billson

Tom,
 I disagree that LTSP has a hardware cost disadvantage.

 Cheapest Dell PC (no monitor) is about $300 but that is only available 
with XP Home. Cheapest Dell PC with XP Professional I could find was $470.


 In any application where you are thinking about deploying a number of 
Windows PCs, you will be using XP Pro.


 New thin clients are $210 each and a Dell server that will support 30 
clients is about $4,000.00. That is a total of about $350 per seat.


 Even running a peer-to-peer Windows network (no server) LTSP is $120 
cheaper per seat.


And that doesn't account for:

a) In a more realistic comparison you would have to add in for a
   Windows domain server - at least $100 per seat.

b) Setting up 30 individual PCs (Linux or Windows) is more costly in
   labor then setting up 30 thin clients. (1/2 hour vs. 2 hours each)

c) The Dell PC is shipped bare - no Office Suite, Anti Virus, etc.
   while the LTSP set up has everything you need. M$ software costs
   would *easily* add several hundred dollars to the cost of each
   desktop.


 So without going to the whole TCO thing, LTSP is less expensive. TCO 
just is icing on the cake.


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Tom Griffing wrote:

Marvin;

This is sort of where I'm going with this, but with a twist.  You have
configured it to combine multiple displays into a single X session.  I
want to run a separate X server for each display and attach additional
keyboards/mice so each monitor/keyboard/mouse can provide separate
sessions for multiple users.

By default, the Linux kernel combines all PS/2 and USB keyboard input
into a single stream for the console.  The "Ruby" kernel extention keeps
the signals separate and allows each to be mapped to a unique X server.
It is detailed here:

   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/about_bruby.html


The combination of LTSP + Ruby would enable a single client to
support as many as 16 users and dramatically lower the per-seat user
cost.  Cost has been a nusiance, since the cost of new equipment for
an LTSP terminal is greater than an entry-level Dell PC (one client
pointed this out).  I talk about "Low TCO", but lower hardware cost
is a strong argument.  I'd like to have that argument on my side   ;-)

Tom


Hello Tom,

I have a LTSP 4.1.1 setup but I don't know if it has a "Ruby Kernel" as
what you are looking for but all my thin clients are running with a dual
head/monitor, one is a 15' and the other one is a 17' monitor.  The 17'
monitor was configured to have a rotated clockwise screen orientation so
that it will give me a longer vertical screen and which will fit an A4
paper on the screen without scrolling it up and down.  I'm just using an
S3 Savage4 PCI video card for the 15' monitor and NVidia GeForce2 AGP
video card for the 17' monitor.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltpsinfod - security problem?

2005-11-07 Thread Peter Billson

John,
  Make ltspinfo owned and excutable only by root:
chown root.root ltspinfo
chmod 700 ltspinfo

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John Horne wrote:

Hello,

We are using the ltspinfod process to allow our ltsp server to reboot
clients. Whilst this works, fine my concern is that there seems to be no
way (that I can think of) to restrict the shutdown/reboot commands to
only come from the server. As far as I can tell another user could
possibly install the relevant parts of ltspinfo on to a (non-ltsp) PC
and issue the reboot command to our clients - in effect performing a
DoS.

Anyone know a way to secure ltspinfo commands to only come from a known
server? We are using LTSP version 4.1.


Many thanks,

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Brief look at what's in store for RHEL-5

2005-11-03 Thread Peter Billson

Jim,
  Feelin' old Jim? They called LTSP the "granddaddy" of thin clients!

  I'm not quiet clear on what "stateless Linux" is. A "chubby" client?

  "Mobility and flexibility of a standard desktop but with the 
administration costs of a thin client" is kind of vague.


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Jim McQuillan wrote:

Hey guys,  Interesting article on internetnews.com about redhat's
direction regarding thin clients and virtualization.

  http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3560881

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Terminal printers with local ppf not local cups.

2005-11-03 Thread Peter Billson

Roy,
  1) Printing is covered in Chapter 5 of the LTSP Documentation:
 http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-4.1/ltsp-4.1.3-en.html

  2) The client does not use SAMBA to share the printer. A small daemon 
runs on port 9100 and works similar to a JetDirect card. Anything that 
arrives at port 9100 on the terminal, get forwarded to the 
serial/parallel/USB port.


  From that point the printer would be set up like any other network 
printer on whatever machine(s) you wish.


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Roy Souther wrote:
  I tried and could not find any thing that indicated that an LTPS 
terminal was sharing it's printer using any protocol.
 From what you are saying, the printer should be an SMB shared printer 
and that Samba is running on the terminal.
I will look at that more, maybe I had the configuration wrong but I did 
not find any SMB running on the terminal.


On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 09:03 +0800, James wrote:

On Wednesday 02 November 2005 03:52,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
> Where did you find the howto? Or can you do one? 
> 
> > I have been looking at running printers from the terminals. I see a 
> > lot of people setting up cups on the terminals to run a cups server. I 
> > chose to use ppf on my terminals because it is very small and lets me 
> > set the desktop server as the cups server. I think cups is overkill 
> > for the terminals. ppf is doing a great job on the terminals and it is 
> > very small. 

I would like to see the problem defined, it looks like solutions for a non  
existant problem. 

A single cups server at a place can manage printers anywhere for users who are  
someware. 

The server talks to the printer directly, network printing (LTSP lp daemon)  
etc 

The users talk to the cups-server by native-windows-network-printing, from a  
machine running a cups daemon. 

Using the above picture, an ltsp server or two, a sea of ltsp clients,  
printers scattered through the mix, anybody (including windows users) can  
talk to any printer from anywhere, the only complication is running a cups 
client daemon if you want to print from an ltsp-terminal-shell (a most unusual 
requirement) 

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DHCP problem since NIC change on server

2005-11-01 Thread Peter Billson

Denis,
  I don't use Ubuntu but (since it is Debian-based) in Debian the 
setting is in a file under /etc/defaults - file name is something like 
dhcp or dhcp3.


  You can also look in the /etc/init.d/dhcp* start up script.

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Peter Billson a écrit :


Denis,
  Did you change your DHCP server settings to listen on eth1?

Pete Billson



Thanks for your reply (and thanks to Todd too)
That's exactly what I want to do, but I don't find where to do this!
I use dhcp3-server on Ubuntu. There's nothing about it in dhcpd.conf.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DHCP problem since NIC change on server

2005-11-01 Thread Peter Billson

Denis,
  Did you change your DHCP server settings to listen on eth1?

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DenisG wrote:

Hi list

I changed the network card on my LTSP server, and since that the client 
can't get an IP at boot, displaying

Searching for server (DHCP)No IP address
.No IP address
.No IP address

The old net card is still here (but not configured) as eth0, the new is 
eth1 with the same IP than before and works fine (I can surf, ping 
others...). I can't remove the old one because it is integrated on the 
motherboard.


What's hapening?
How can I tell DHCP to use eth1 now (if it is the problem...)

Thanks

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[Ltsp-discuss] KDM Auto Login

2005-11-01 Thread Peter Billson

Hello *,
  I have a weird problem with KDM's auto login on one terminal.

  About once a day this one particular terminal refuses to auto login. 
The 30+ other terminals work fine.


  Every other terminal at every other location I have works fine.

  I can manually log in as the user, no problem.

  If I let the terminal sit overnight, it will log in OK the next morning.

  I have erased the user's home directory and started from scratch but 
no joy.


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[Ltsp-discuss] Off Topic: Ubuntu

2005-10-27 Thread Peter Billson
  Just received this announcement from the Linux Users Group in 
Princeton (NJ) (LUG/IP) http://lugip.org/meeting/


  Jeff Waugh of Ubuntu fame will be bringing his worldwide "Ubuntu 
Badger Badger Badger Tour" to LUG/IPs November meeting.


  Thought some LTSPers may be interested.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] desktop installation script

2005-10-26 Thread Peter Billson

Chris,
  I rsync the whole thing on production servers all the time. As long 
as you are trying to maintain nearly identical servers it works fine.


 The fact that you are excluding /home worries me. Are you going to 
have different users on the machines? Bad things can happen if 
users/groups don't match.


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Chris Fanning wrote:

Hi,


Not sure why you needed to exclude /dev, generally I include it.


I can't remenber the exact error, but it resulted in a kernel panic.


I think some files are good to copy onto the new base installation,
but less files should be copied onto a production server.

I'm trying to see how to do a quick new install from a master copy,
and then use the master copy to push maintenance updates to production
servers.

new-install.exclude
*
/boot
/vmlinuz
/initrd.img
/lib/modules
/etc/fstab
/etc/mtab
/etc/mdadm
/etc/rsync
/etc/hostname
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_*
/etc/ssl
/var/tmp
/var/log
/var/run
/var/lock
/mount
/media
/proc
/tmp
/dev
/usr/src
/home
*

push-update.exclude
*
/etc/hosts
/etc/resolve.conf
/etc/dhcpd.conf
/etc/firewall
/etc/network
/etc/passwd*
/etc/shadow*
/etc/group*
/var/spool
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
/boot
/vmlinuz
/initrd.img
/lib/modules
/etc/fstab
/etc/mtab
/etc/mdadm
/etc/rsync
/etc/hostname
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_*
/etc/ssl
/var/tmp
/var/log
/var/run
/var/lock
/mount
/media
/proc
/tmp
/dev
/usr/src
/home
*
This morning I added ltsp sound to the master server and pushed the
update to a client server.  It worked.  Following this idea, apt-get
should never be used on the client server.

I do feel however that i'm going to run into problems.
I installed freeNX server on the master server, and pushed the copy to
the client server.
Bad. nxserver had touched many different files and it didn't work.

This adds complexity to the invention (something to avoid).

Any ideas?

Chris.


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Good point with ssh, I've added it

Not sure why you needed to exclude /dev, generally I include it.

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Chris Fanning wrote:


If you have the same keys on the other servers this is a security problem.
You should to generate another keys for each server.
You shoul be interested with ssl too.



Good point.
I also needed to exclude /dev

On 10/26/05, Marcin Kuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Peter

I saw your exclude file:

http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude
/boot
/cdrom
/etc/fstab
/etc/hostname
/etc/lilo.conf
/etc/mtab
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/rsync
/floppy
/lib/modules
/proc
/tmp
/usr/src
/vmlinuz

I think you forgot one thing:
/etc/ssh directory

If you have the same keys on the other servers this is a security problem.
You should to generate another keys for each server.
You shoul be interested with ssl too.

Regards

Marcin Kuk

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Chris Fanning wrote:



Hi,





I do a base install of the OS on the new server then use rsync to
copy a master copy of my server set up, which I keep on a portable USB
drive.


That sounds like just the sort of thing I'm thinking of.





 Of course I exclude a few files - i.e. /boot since the hardware is
usually different, hostname, network interface set up, etc.



Would it be too much to ask you for the list of excludes and includes
to help get me started?

Thanks.
Chris.


Chris,
 I included everything, except what is listed in
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] System Messaging

2005-10-26 Thread Peter Billson

Joshua,
  Perhaps zephyr or maybe something like xtell.

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Joshua N Pritikin wrote:

On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 01:55 -0400, ltsp wrote:

Is there any way I can simultaneously message all my LTSP clients?  Say 
open a dialog box up on everyone's screen with some message.



We use zephyr.  Just run zwgc in the Xsession.d.




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] desktop installation script

2005-10-26 Thread Peter Billson

Good point with ssh, I've added it

Not sure why you needed to exclude /dev, generally I include it.

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Chris Fanning wrote:

If you have the same keys on the other servers this is a security problem.
You should to generate another keys for each server.
You shoul be interested with ssl too.



Good point.
I also needed to exclude /dev

On 10/26/05, Marcin Kuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Peter

I saw your exclude file:

http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude
/boot
/cdrom
/etc/fstab
/etc/hostname
/etc/lilo.conf
/etc/mtab
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/rsync
/floppy
/lib/modules
/proc
/tmp
/usr/src
/vmlinuz

I think you forgot one thing:
/etc/ssh directory

If you have the same keys on the other servers this is a security problem.
You should to generate another keys for each server.
You shoul be interested with ssl too.

Regards

Marcin Kuk

On 10/21/05, Peter Billson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Chris Fanning wrote:


Hi,




 I do a base install of the OS on the new server then use rsync to
copy a master copy of my server set up, which I keep on a portable USB
drive.


That sounds like just the sort of thing I'm thinking of.




  Of course I exclude a few files - i.e. /boot since the hardware is
usually different, hostname, network interface set up, etc.



Would it be too much to ask you for the list of excludes and includes
to help get me started?

Thanks.
Chris.


Chris,
  I included everything, except what is listed in
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude

  This is for a debian system.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] desktop installation script

2005-10-24 Thread Peter Billson

Chris,
  The libsys file is obsolete. You are welcome to use it, but it *must* 
be used with a Woody system. Syncing it with a Sarge or Etch system 
*will* give you a broken system.


  That browser.jar-catalog is for use on the OPACS (the address bar is 
disabled), but I also have a new one for 1.0.7 for public stations. I've 
upload it to the site.


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Chris Fanning wrote:

  I included everything, except what is listed in
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude


Thanks



  This is for a debian system.


I'm using Debian too.

I see in
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/INSTALL.txt that this is a woody install.
I'd like to download your
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/libsys.tar.gz and try it out.
Is a testing(etch) base installation ok, or must it be woody?

I've got a library running on ltsp so I'll be checking out your
browser.jar too ;)

Thanks.
Chris.

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Chris Fanning wrote:


Hi,




 I do a base install of the OS on the new server then use rsync to
copy a master copy of my server set up, which I keep on a portable USB
drive.


That sounds like just the sort of thing I'm thinking of.




  Of course I exclude a few files - i.e. /boot since the hardware is
usually different, hostname, network interface set up, etc.



Would it be too much to ask you for the list of excludes and includes
to help get me started?

Thanks.
Chris.


Chris,
  I included everything, except what is listed in
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude

  This is for a debian system.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LCD Monitors

2005-10-22 Thread Peter Billson

Mark,
  I don't know about "best" but I have deployed *lots* of Dell E173FP 
and am quiet happy with them. They work right out of the box.


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Hi,

I am deploying a thin-client environment and just wanted to know if any
one had suggestions on to which 17inch lcd, would work the best. 


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] desktop installation script

2005-10-21 Thread Peter Billson

Chris Fanning wrote:

Hi,



  I do a base install of the OS on the new server then use rsync to
copy a master copy of my server set up, which I keep on a portable USB
drive.


That sounds like just the sort of thing I'm thinking of.



   Of course I exclude a few files - i.e. /boot since the hardware is
usually different, hostname, network interface set up, etc.



Would it be too much to ask you for the list of excludes and includes
to help get me started?

Thanks.
Chris.


Chris,
  I included everything, except what is listed in 
http://www.elbnet.com/libsys/files/exclude


  This is for a debian system.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] desktop installation script

2005-10-21 Thread Peter Billson

Chris Fanning wrote:

Hello all,

I'm a beginner at LTSP but I'm already about to install my 4th terminal server.

Perhaps the most time consuming and tedious part of a terminal server
installation are all the little things that need to be done to make
the users enviroment acceptable to the user.
Install flash plugin, $LANG and other enviroment stuff, default file
associations, codecs, fonts, etc, etc, etc.
I would like to try and write some kind of script to do this for me.

Has anyone done this? I'd much prefer to contribute to an existing
project instead of starting from scratch.

Thanks.
Chris.


Chris,
  I do a base install of the OS on the new server then use rsync to 
copy a master copy of my server set up, which I keep on a portable USB 
drive.
   Of course I exclude a few files - i.e. /boot since the hardware is 
usually different, hostname, network interface set up, etc.



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Smb mount failure - mtab lock file

2005-10-15 Thread Peter Billson

John Horne wrote:

On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 08:27 -0400, Peter Billson wrote:

  Are you truly trying to mount from the client (sounds like it) 
instead of as a user logged into the client (which would mean the mount 
request comes from the LTSP server, not the client)?




Yes, directly from the client. At the moment the client boots into a
bash shell (so they are the root user). I'm a little lost as to what you
mean by 'the mount request comes from the LTSP server'. If that was so
then where would the server mount the share? And how does the client
then access it?


John,
 A) When you start a LTSP thin client with a shell, you are looking at 
a terminal running on the client.


 B) When you start a LTSP thin client with a GUI, log in, then  start a 
terminal window you are looking at a terminal running on the server.


  If you use example B), when you enter the command for the SMB mount, 
the mount request is coming from the *server* even though you are 
sitting at the client.




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Smb mount failure - mtab lock file

2005-10-14 Thread Peter Billson

John,
  Are you truly trying to mount from the client (sounds like it) 
instead of as a user logged into the client (which would mean the mount 
request comes from the LTSP server, not the client)?


  If so, unless you mounted the LTSP root file system read/write (not 
recommended), /etc is not writable by the client. Sounds like Samba is 
trying to modify mtab and create a tmp file (~) first, which is what it 
is complaining about.


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John Horne wrote:

Hello,

We are using LTSP 4.1, 2.4.29 kernel. I am trying to get a client to
mount a Windows share (the D: drive) but am having a problem. Testing
the same mount command from my (fc4 linux) work pc, works fine. So it's
not a Windows permissions issue.

In using the smbmount command I am getting the following error:

  smbmount //141.163.x.x/d$ /mnt -ousername=xxx
  (It prompts here for 'Password:')
  Can't get /etc/mtab~ lock filesmbmnt failed: 1

The file /etc/mtab exists but has nothing in it.

Anyone any ideas about this? The list archives show pretty much nothing
about problems with /etc/mtab, so obviously it is something odd
locally :-( Not sure why the '~' is there, but that is what the error
reports.



Thanks,

John.




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Memory usage

2005-10-14 Thread Peter Billson
Firefox: if people download a lot, and never clear the downloads, it can 
get a huge memory footprint, since the downloads (seemingly not all, but 
most) get cached.


You can disable Firefox's memory caching with the user_pref 
"browser.cache.memory.enable" or limit the amount used by 
"browser.cache.memory.capacity"


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltspfs

2005-10-07 Thread Peter Billson

Scotty,
   This looks like it has great promise!

   I'm going to give it a whirl over the weekend... Any known 
issues/gotchas?



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Scott Balneaves wrote:

Hello fellow LTSP users/developers:

After a couple of months of hard development, we've released the first
cut of ltspfs, the network filesystem we're hoping to use for LTSP 4.2.

We've got a fairly extensive set of documentation online at:

http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspFS

There's instructions for checking out the source from cvs, and for the
adventurous, instructions on integrating it into the current ltsp.

Pop by and have a glimpse at the cool things to come...

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printers stopping

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Billson

Karl,
  I've had this issue on two servers and it appears to be a Cups issue, 
not an LTSP issue. The systems were running fine under Debian Woody and 
the issue started after upgrading to Sarge. Nothing had changed in LTSP.


  The resolution for me was finding the correct printer drivers. The 
printers (two different HPs) worked fine (that is print jobs came out 
looking correct) using several different drivers but it wasn't until I 
used the hpijs (or something like that) driver that the disabled problem 
went away.



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Karl Zander wrote:

Running LTSP-4.1.

Have problems with some printers attached to terminals going into a 
"disabled" state.  Using the CUPS command line tools we can enable them 
and they start printing right away.   But I am not sure how to 
troubleshoot why they are going "disabled."  It might happen once or 
twice a month.We have some HP JetDirect print servers and they work 
fine, its only some of the terminals.


Here is a typical setup from lts.conf

PRINTER_0_DEVICE   =  /dev/lp0
PRINTER_0_TYPE   =  P


All the printers on the terminals are parallel printers.

We have the same problem with another server running LTSP 4.1.1

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] must use squid proxy server!!!

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Billson

I should have read the original post!

I think the question is how to force all the browsers through a proxy 
without depending on the preferences settings.


The easiest was is to use iptables to redirect all port 80 requests to 
your proxy server.


If your proxy is the same machine as your LTSP server, assign a second 
IP to your public interface and bind squid to that IP. Then only 
redirect port 80 requests from your primary IP (the ones coming from 
your LTSP workstations) and let the port 80 requests on the secondary IP 
(your squid ip) go out.


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LinuxMurah.com wrote:

dear friends,

is there anybody know how to set LTSP client to use
squid proxy server, but not only set by browser. which
mean, all user cannot directly connect to internet.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] must use squid proxy server!!!

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Billson

Chris,
  Squid can use identd to proxy based on username.

  Or you can redirect traffic using iptables based on port/username.

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Chris Fanning wrote:

Hi,



thanks chris, but how to make firefox run as local
application?



Firefox takes a lot longer to start up as a local app than running it
from the server.
You need more than 32MB ram on the client.
You lose some of your enviroment and will need to reconfigure
somethings again (like firefox language settings).

http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalApps
http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.html#localapps
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ltsp-discuss&m=112589671626267&w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ltsp-discuss&m=112740100630498&w=2

If you want all of your clients to be proxied, you don't need to do
this. You can simply pass all outgoing http traffic through squid.

But if you only want one, or some of the clients to be proxied, I
understand that you need the browsers source ip.

If there is another way I would like to know.

Thanks.
Chris.


Good luck.


Chris.

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thanks chris, but how to make firefox run as local
application?

--- Chris Fanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Hi,

I'm not sure but...
If you only want one, or some, of your clients to
use the proxy, I
think you will need to run the browser as a local
application. If not,
you have no way to know which terminal is browsing
(all terminals go
out on the same ip).
When you see the ip's of the terminals going out
through the terminal
server you can set up squid. I think you want to try
"transparent
squid" on google.

If I'm not right, I would like to know because I'm
also interested in
using application proxing.

Cheers.
Chris.

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dear friends,

is there anybody know how to set LTSP client to


use


squid proxy server, but not only set by browser.


which


mean, all user cannot directly connect to


internet.


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