Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread Joost Verburg
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
 I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
 One works ( a borrowed laptop) . But it does not work on my own laptop. I
 used the same downloaded sw on both. As discussed on the webpage, looks like
 it cannot do the configuration on start up. With very much difficulty I got
 a screen print of the error ( tried it about a 100 times to be fast enough
 to capture the screen!).. I do  not see any ../resources directory in the
 place specified.

According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
will probably solve your problem.

Joost



Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread saras
Joost Verburg joost at lyx.org writes:

 
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
  I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
  One works ( a borrowed laptop) ...discussed on the webpage, 
 
 According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
 was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
 using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
 will probably solve your problem.
 
 Joost
 
 

Hello Joost,
Thank you for your reply.  I will try the standard installer after my laptop
becomes operational. It will take some time to fix it since it has to be sent to
Singapore and I plan to do it only in when I go there. 
 Right now, the laptop
fan does not work and there is a risk of  burning the disk/cpu. I think I did
try the standard installer and it may not have worked. But I cannot confirm
this. I remember installing different versions though.

Saras





Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread Joost Verburg
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
 I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
 One works ( a borrowed laptop) . But it does not work on my own laptop. I
 used the same downloaded sw on both. As discussed on the webpage, looks like
 it cannot do the configuration on start up. With very much difficulty I got
 a screen print of the error ( tried it about a 100 times to be fast enough
 to capture the screen!).. I do  not see any ../resources directory in the
 place specified.

According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
will probably solve your problem.

Joost



Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread saras
Joost Verburg joost at lyx.org writes:

 
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
  I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
  One works ( a borrowed laptop) ...discussed on the webpage, 
 
 According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
 was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
 using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
 will probably solve your problem.
 
 Joost
 
 

Hello Joost,
Thank you for your reply.  I will try the standard installer after my laptop
becomes operational. It will take some time to fix it since it has to be sent to
Singapore and I plan to do it only in when I go there. 
 Right now, the laptop
fan does not work and there is a risk of  burning the disk/cpu. I think I did
try the standard installer and it may not have worked. But I cannot confirm
this. I remember installing different versions though.

Saras





Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread Joost Verburg
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
>>> I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
>>> One works ( a borrowed laptop) . But it does not work on my own laptop. I
>>> used the same downloaded sw on both. As discussed on the webpage, looks like
>>> it cannot do the configuration on start up. With very much difficulty I got
>>> a screen print of the error ( tried it about a 100 times to be fast enough
>>> to capture the screen!).. I do  not see any ../resources directory in the
>>> place specified.

According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
will probably solve your problem.

Joost



Re: Fwd: installing lyx on windows 7

2011-02-14 Thread saras
Joost Verburg  lyx.org> writes:

> 
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:32:24 -0600, Saras Saraswathi wrote:
> >>> I tried to install the lyx. I installed under windows 7 on two laptops.
> >>> One works ( a borrowed laptop) ...discussed on the webpage, 
> 
> According to the screenshots, one of the installations (the one that works)
> was installed using the standard installer and the other one was installed
> using the alternative installer. Reinstalling using the standard installer
> will probably solve your problem.
> 
> Joost
> 
> 

Hello Joost,
Thank you for your reply.  I will try the standard installer after my laptop
becomes operational. It will take some time to fix it since it has to be sent to
Singapore and I plan to do it only in when I go there. 
 Right now, the laptop
fan does not work and there is a risk of  burning the disk/cpu. I think I did
try the standard installer and it may not have worked. But I cannot confirm
this. I remember installing different versions though.

Saras





problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer

Hello,

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with lyx?


Are there any howtos out there how to install lyx on Windows Vista?

many thanks - Tino

--
Gäbe es kein Wasser auf der Welt, könnten die Menschen nicht schwimmen 
lernen und müssten alle ertrinken...


Re: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Tino Langer schrieb:

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.

Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vista.aspx

But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
lyx?


Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on your 
computer?

regards Uwe


RE: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer
The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX
version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.
Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vis
ta.aspx

ok - so I will wait - this is no problem :-)

 But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
 there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
 lyx?

Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on
your computer?

No - I looked into the bin directory an found no python.exe file and I was
wondering

Nice day - TIno



problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer

Hello,

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with lyx?


Are there any howtos out there how to install lyx on Windows Vista?

many thanks - Tino

--
Gäbe es kein Wasser auf der Welt, könnten die Menschen nicht schwimmen 
lernen und müssten alle ertrinken...


Re: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Tino Langer schrieb:

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.

Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vista.aspx

But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
lyx?


Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on your 
computer?

regards Uwe


RE: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer
The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX
version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.
Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vis
ta.aspx

ok - so I will wait - this is no problem :-)

 But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
 there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
 lyx?

Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on
your computer?

No - I looked into the bin directory an found no python.exe file and I was
wondering

Nice day - TIno



problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer

Hello,

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with lyx?


Are there any howtos out there how to install lyx on Windows Vista?

many thanks - Tino

--
Gäbe es kein Wasser auf der Welt, könnten die Menschen nicht schwimmen 
lernen und müssten alle ertrinken...


Re: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Tino Langer schrieb:

I just tried to install lyx on my windows vista. The first problem was 
to install miketex out of the bundle-installer of lyx 1.4.3-5 
(lyx-143-5-bundle.exe ) - an Windows API error occurs. a workaround for 
this problem was to install miktex 2.5 stand alone and refer to the 
existing installation while installing lyx.


The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.

Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vista.aspx

But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
lyx?


Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on your 
computer?

regards Uwe


RE: problems installing lyx on windows vista

2007-02-07 Thread Tino Langer
The MiKTeX shipped with the last installer is not Vista-ready. The next LyX
version comes out next 
week with an updated MiKTeX version.
Note that there are stil some restrictions to use MiKTeX under Vista:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/archive/2007/01/22/miktex25vis
ta.aspx

ok - so I will wait - this is no problem :-)

> But the second problem ist, that I can not start lyx. It seems to be 
> there is no python available. But I thought this application comes with 
> lyx?

Don't you have a python.exe in LyX's \bin directory or somewhere else on
your computer?

No - I looked into the bin directory an found no python.exe file and I was
wondering

Nice day - TIno



Missing textclass problem while installing LyX under Windows hopefully fixed

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hello LyXers,

in the last weeks many users had the problem that after installing LyX on Windows, LyX couldn't be 
started, only the error message Missing textclass.lst is displayed.


There was a bug in MIKTeX so that LyX's configuration script wasn't correctly finished when no 
internet connection was opened to install missing LaTeX-packages. This is now fixed in the latest 
MiKTeX version 2.5.2580.
You can update your MiKTeX installation using MiKTeX's update manager which is accessible in the 
Start menu under Programs - MiKTeX 2.5.


For new installations the next LyXWinInstaller version has the new MiKTeX version bundled. For 
existing installations the installer asks you to update MiKTeX before you start LyX the first time. 
Use this option and MiKTeX's update manager will be started by the installer.


For explanation:
LyX needs some LaTeX-packages for some of its features that are not delivered in the basic 
installation of MiKTeX. You can use LyX without having these packages installed but then you cannot 
use all LyX features.
If you want to have all packages needed by LyX installed, install LyX while you have an open 
internet connection or open later an internet connection and reconfigure LyX.


regards Uwe


Missing textclass problem while installing LyX under Windows hopefully fixed

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hello LyXers,

in the last weeks many users had the problem that after installing LyX on Windows, LyX couldn't be 
started, only the error message Missing textclass.lst is displayed.


There was a bug in MIKTeX so that LyX's configuration script wasn't correctly finished when no 
internet connection was opened to install missing LaTeX-packages. This is now fixed in the latest 
MiKTeX version 2.5.2580.
You can update your MiKTeX installation using MiKTeX's update manager which is accessible in the 
Start menu under Programs - MiKTeX 2.5.


For new installations the next LyXWinInstaller version has the new MiKTeX version bundled. For 
existing installations the installer asks you to update MiKTeX before you start LyX the first time. 
Use this option and MiKTeX's update manager will be started by the installer.


For explanation:
LyX needs some LaTeX-packages for some of its features that are not delivered in the basic 
installation of MiKTeX. You can use LyX without having these packages installed but then you cannot 
use all LyX features.
If you want to have all packages needed by LyX installed, install LyX while you have an open 
internet connection or open later an internet connection and reconfigure LyX.


regards Uwe


Missing textclass problem while installing LyX under Windows hopefully fixed

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hello LyXers,

in the last weeks many users had the problem that after installing LyX on Windows, LyX couldn't be 
started, only the error message "Missing textclass.lst" is displayed.


There was a bug in MIKTeX so that LyX's configuration script wasn't correctly finished when no 
internet connection was opened to install missing LaTeX-packages. This is now fixed in the latest 
MiKTeX version 2.5.2580.
You can update your MiKTeX installation using MiKTeX's update manager which is accessible in the 
Start menu under Programs -> MiKTeX 2.5.


For new installations the next LyXWinInstaller version has the new MiKTeX version bundled. For 
existing installations the installer asks you to update MiKTeX before you start LyX the first time. 
Use this option and MiKTeX's update manager will be started by the installer.


For explanation:
LyX needs some LaTeX-packages for some of its features that are not delivered in the basic 
installation of MiKTeX. You can use LyX without having these packages installed but then you cannot 
use all LyX features.
If you want to have all packages needed by LyX installed, install LyX while you have an open 
internet connection or open later an internet connection and reconfigure LyX.


regards Uwe


Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-03 Thread Stephen Harris

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?

Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo




I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  


As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in program files.
Installing it in c:\ is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric




Eric: A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
  Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
  (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
  Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
  C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.


SH: Installation and the path with spaces problem is mentioned on
the Wiki, but you have to know where to look, but just searching
for installation is going to produce over 60 hits and the new
user isn't likely to know the paths with spaces keyword phrase.

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14?n=LyX.NewInLyX14action=searchq=installation#toc5http:

lists the 2/60+ articles which mention installation and paths with 
spaces but how is the new user to know to choose them? The answer is

an index with: Installation, see Paths with spaces;
Paths with spaces, see Installation
and a pointer in the FAQ to look at the Index. Methods like
establishing layout files for LyX after adding .cls files would
be in cross-referenced in the index and make new users aware of it.

A search engine doesn't take the place of a well-designed index
because the search engine doesn't inform one of the keyword used
to describe the concept or provide a hint for related issues
without reading a lot of documentation.

I think a lot of stuff is present in the Wiki, just hard to find.

Hooray for a source condensed information (milk of wisdom),

Stephen

-

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136

Ekkehart Schlicht: Although LyX swallows path and folder names with
blanks (such as C:\Program Files\...) this is not necessarily true
for the other programs, and it is recommended to install them in the
default locations suggested by the programs, or in paths without
blanks (such as C:\Programs\...), just to be on the safe side.

---

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/InstallationTipsForLyXWithAnAlternativeLaTeXDistribution

It is good practice for LyX and its associated programs to be included
in the Windows Path statement, whichever Latex distribution you are 
using. Choosing directories without spaces in them like


C:\LyX

rather than the default,

C:\Program files\LyX

is likely still the safer practice, unless the installer balks at 
changing the default and the install fails.


--



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-03 Thread Stephen Harris

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?

Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo




I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  


As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in program files.
Installing it in c:\ is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric




Eric: A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
  Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
  (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
  Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
  C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.


SH: Installation and the path with spaces problem is mentioned on
the Wiki, but you have to know where to look, but just searching
for installation is going to produce over 60 hits and the new
user isn't likely to know the paths with spaces keyword phrase.

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14?n=LyX.NewInLyX14action=searchq=installation#toc5http:

lists the 2/60+ articles which mention installation and paths with 
spaces but how is the new user to know to choose them? The answer is

an index with: Installation, see Paths with spaces;
Paths with spaces, see Installation
and a pointer in the FAQ to look at the Index. Methods like
establishing layout files for LyX after adding .cls files would
be in cross-referenced in the index and make new users aware of it.

A search engine doesn't take the place of a well-designed index
because the search engine doesn't inform one of the keyword used
to describe the concept or provide a hint for related issues
without reading a lot of documentation.

I think a lot of stuff is present in the Wiki, just hard to find.

Hooray for a source condensed information (milk of wisdom),

Stephen

-

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136

Ekkehart Schlicht: Although LyX swallows path and folder names with
blanks (such as C:\Program Files\...) this is not necessarily true
for the other programs, and it is recommended to install them in the
default locations suggested by the programs, or in paths without
blanks (such as C:\Programs\...), just to be on the safe side.

---

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/InstallationTipsForLyXWithAnAlternativeLaTeXDistribution

It is good practice for LyX and its associated programs to be included
in the Windows Path statement, whichever Latex distribution you are 
using. Choosing directories without spaces in them like


C:\LyX

rather than the default,

C:\Program files\LyX

is likely still the safer practice, unless the installer balks at 
changing the default and the install fails.


--



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-03 Thread Stephen Harris

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
"C:\Program Files" directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to "C:\" and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
"Program Files". If that's true, then what gives?

Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo




I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  


As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in "program files".
Installing it in "c:\" is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric




Eric: A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
> > "Program Files" then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
> > (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
> > Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
> > "C:\Program Files", this should probably be changed.


SH: Installation and the path with spaces problem is mentioned on
the Wiki, but you have to know where to look, but just searching
for installation is going to produce over 60 hits and the new
user isn't likely to know the "paths with spaces" keyword phrase.

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14?n=LyX.NewInLyX14=search=installation#toc5http:

lists the 2/60+ articles which mention installation and paths with 
spaces but how is the new user to know to choose them? The answer is

an index with: Installation, see Paths with spaces;
Paths with spaces, see Installation
and a pointer in the FAQ to look at the Index. Methods like
establishing layout files for LyX after adding .cls files would
be in cross-referenced in the index and make new users aware of it.

A search engine doesn't take the place of a well-designed index
because the search engine doesn't inform one of the keyword used
to describe the concept or provide a hint for related issues
without reading a lot of documentation.

I think a lot of stuff is present in the Wiki, just hard to find.

Hooray for a source condensed information (milk of wisdom),

Stephen

-

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136

Ekkehart Schlicht: "Although LyX swallows path and folder names with
blanks (such as C:\Program Files\...) this is not necessarily true
for the other programs, and it is recommended to install them in the
default locations suggested by the programs, or in paths without
blanks (such as C:\Programs\...), just to be on the safe side."

---

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/InstallationTipsForLyXWithAnAlternativeLaTeXDistribution

"It is good practice for LyX and its associated programs to be included
in the Windows Path statement, whichever Latex distribution you are 
using. Choosing directories without spaces in them like


C:\LyX

rather than the default,

C:\Program files\LyX

is likely still the safer practice, unless the installer balks at 
changing the default and the install fails."


--



installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?

A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   

regards,
eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.


No, it works fine from C:\Program Files\...


This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?


Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   


Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
 (not positive, since I changed from the default).

By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
attempted the installation?


/Paul



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?


Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo


Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Eric Inazaki wrote:
 
 Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
 been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
 failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
 the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
 the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)
 

Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).

After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start-
Programs and click on lyx then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.
 
  A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
  Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
  (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
  Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
  C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   
 
 Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
   (not positive, since I changed from the default).
 
 By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
 attempted the installation?
 

Well, yeah okay C:\Program Files\lyxsomething-or-other.  And yes,
I did this as the admin.  

So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the Program Files
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?

eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
  C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
  Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
  installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
  works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
  seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
  Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?
 
 Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
 under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
 best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
 1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
 your machines, it should be investigated.
 
 So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
 under c:\program files?
 
 Bo
 
 

I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  

As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in program files.
Installing it in c:\ is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:
Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).


After LyX installs, it automatically runs a configuration script that, 
among other things, snoops around your LaTeX installation looking to see 
which among a roster of common classes are installed.  That 
information is written to some configuration files.  MikTeX treats this 
the same way it treats a document trying to load a class, and so 
(depending on how you have MikTeX configured) it will either do nothing, 
automatically install the classes, or bug you whether or not to install 
each one.  (I'm category three, so every time I install a new LyX 
version I get multiple nags from MikTeX.)  If you're on the auto-install 
plan, probably that was the downloading you observed.


After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start-
Programs and click on lyx then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.


Well, I'm pretty sure that's not the configuration burped error.


So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the Program Files
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?


Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically 
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you 
get any, may vary).


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program 
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in 
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits 
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window 
closing on you.


/Paul




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

 Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.


Lyx is checking for some classes, miktex does not have them so it
installs them automatically. 1.4.3 will give you more prompt
information, but this process will take the same long time.



Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you
get any, may vary).


:-)


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window
closing on you.


This is what I would suggest.

Bo


installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?

A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   

regards,
eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.


No, it works fine from C:\Program Files\...


This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?


Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   


Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
 (not positive, since I changed from the default).

By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
attempted the installation?


/Paul



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?


Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo


Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Eric Inazaki wrote:
 
 Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
 been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
 failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
 the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
 the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)
 

Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).

After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start-
Programs and click on lyx then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.
 
  A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
  Program Files then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
  (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
  Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
  C:\Program Files, this should probably be changed.   
 
 Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
   (not positive, since I changed from the default).
 
 By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
 attempted the installation?
 

Well, yeah okay C:\Program Files\lyxsomething-or-other.  And yes,
I did this as the admin.  

So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the Program Files
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?

eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
  C:\Program Files directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
  Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
  installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to C:\ and that
  works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
  seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
  Program Files. If that's true, then what gives?
 
 Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
 under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
 best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
 1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
 your machines, it should be investigated.
 
 So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
 under c:\program files?
 
 Bo
 
 

I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  

As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in program files.
Installing it in c:\ is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:
Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).


After LyX installs, it automatically runs a configuration script that, 
among other things, snoops around your LaTeX installation looking to see 
which among a roster of common classes are installed.  That 
information is written to some configuration files.  MikTeX treats this 
the same way it treats a document trying to load a class, and so 
(depending on how you have MikTeX configured) it will either do nothing, 
automatically install the classes, or bug you whether or not to install 
each one.  (I'm category three, so every time I install a new LyX 
version I get multiple nags from MikTeX.)  If you're on the auto-install 
plan, probably that was the downloading you observed.


After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start-
Programs and click on lyx then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.


Well, I'm pretty sure that's not the configuration burped error.


So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the Program Files
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?


Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically 
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you 
get any, may vary).


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program 
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in 
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits 
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window 
closing on you.


/Paul




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

 Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.


Lyx is checking for some classes, miktex does not have them so it
installs them automatically. 1.4.3 will give you more prompt
information, but this process will take the same long time.



Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you
get any, may vary).


:-)


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window
closing on you.


This is what I would suggest.

Bo


installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
"C:\Program Files" directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to "C:\" and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
"Program Files". If that's true, then what gives?

A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
"Program Files" then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
"C:\Program Files", this should probably be changed.   

regards,
eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
"C:\Program Files" directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.


No, it works fine from C:\Program Files\...


This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to "C:\" and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
"Program Files". If that's true, then what gives?


Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
"Program Files" then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
(I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
"C:\Program Files", this should probably be changed.   


Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
 (not positive, since I changed from the default).

By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
attempted the installation?


/Paul



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
"C:\Program Files" directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to "C:\" and that
works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
"Program Files". If that's true, then what gives?


Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
your machines, it should be investigated.

So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
under c:\program files?

Bo


Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Eric Inazaki wrote:
> 
> Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
> been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
> failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
> the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
> the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)
> >

Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).

After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start->
Programs and click on "lyx" then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.
 
> > A suggestion, if lyx really does have a problem being installed in
> > "Program Files" then it'd be nice if that fact were well publicized
> > (I found no mention of it on the lyx homepage, nor on the wiki).
> > Also, when I did it, the default installation directory was
> > "C:\Program Files", this should probably be changed.   
> 
> Really?  On my systems, I think it defaulted to C:\Program Files\lyx14
>   (not positive, since I changed from the default).
> 
> By the way, were you logged in with administrator permissions when you 
> attempted the installation?
> 

Well, yeah okay "C:\Program Files\lyx".  And yes,
I did this as the admin.  

So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the "Program Files"
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?

eric




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Inazaki
Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> On 8/2/06, Eric Inazaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does lyx choke (i.e. fail to start) when it's installed in
> > "C:\Program Files" directory?  This is with lyx 1.4.2 and
> > Windows 2000, by the way.  This happened to me on my first
> > installation attempt.  I tried reinstalling to "C:\" and that
> > works okay.  Looking through some of these older messages, it
> > seems that some folks don't have a problem installing to
> > "Program Files". If that's true, then what gives?
> 
> Due to the anti-space nature of latex, it is safer to install lyx
> under a path without space. However, the developers have tried their
> best to let lyx works as *usual* (?) under windows. As a result, lyx
> 1.4.2 should work under c:\program files. If lyx can not start under
> your machines, it should be investigated.
> 
> So, what exactly happened when you start lyx when it is installed
> under c:\program files?
> 
> Bo
> 
> 

I launch lyx from the Start/Program menu, a command window appears then
disappears a split second later and that's it.  No alert dialog, no
nothing.  

As far a I'm concerned, lyx doesn't _have to_ be installed in "program files".
Installing it in "c:\" is okay.  Would've been nice to have had a heads-up is
all.

It's starting to sound like I might have done something screwy.  Bet if I
tried again from scratch I won't see this problem.

eric



Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Eric Inazaki wrote:
Did it give you a message about not finding class files?  There have 
been instances where LyX installed properly but the configuration script 
failed, and subsequently LyX would not start because it could not find 
the requisite configuration information.  (But it would at least display 
the GUI and cough up a message to that effect.)


Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.
They looked like template files, might have class files, I wasn't paying
that close attention.  And it may or may not have been lyx that was doing
the downloading, could've been MikTeX which I installed at about the
same time.  (The dialog boxes didn't say what program they were affiliated
with).


After LyX installs, it automatically runs a configuration script that, 
among other things, snoops around your LaTeX installation looking to see 
which among a roster of "common" classes are installed.  That 
information is written to some configuration files.  MikTeX treats this 
the same way it treats a document trying to load a class, and so 
(depending on how you have MikTeX configured) it will either do nothing, 
automatically install the classes, or bug you whether or not to install 
each one.  (I'm category three, so every time I install a new LyX 
version I get multiple nags from MikTeX.)  If you're on the auto-install 
plan, probably that was the downloading you observed.


After all that was done (as near as I could tell), I would go to Start->
Programs and click on "lyx" then a command window would pop up for about
a half-second, disappear and that's all she wrote.


Well, I'm pretty sure that's not the "configuration burped" error.


So you're saying that you could install and run lyx at the "Program Files"
directory, out of the box, with no problems and without having to futz
around with anything?


Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically 
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you 
get any, may vary).


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program 
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in 
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits 
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window 
closing on you.


/Paul




Re: installing lyx on windows

2006-08-02 Thread Bo Peng

> Right after I installed lyx, it spent a lot of time downloading stuff.


Lyx is checking for some classes, miktex does not have them so it
installs them automatically. 1.4.3 will give you more prompt
information, but this process will take the same long time.



Windows being Windows, the most I'm willing to say is that LyX typically
installs properly in C:\Program Files (but your actual mileage, if you
get any, may vary).


:-)


If you clean out an detritus and try another install under C:\Program
Files, it might fly this time.  If not, try opening a command prompt in
the LyX bin directory and run lyx.bat from there.  That way, if it spits
up an error message, you'll have a chance to see it without the window
closing on you.


This is what I would suggest.

Bo


Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread mel b
Hi all,

I am using lyx for a while on windows, and decided today to try the new,
supported ! , windows version. I uninstalled my lyx version the best I
could, and followed the instructions on the Lyx Wiki. Everything seemed fine
until I launch lyx.

Then, while lyx was configuring, just after the message creating
doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx has been written on the console, I get a nice windows
window tr.exe has encoutered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for
the inconvenience. Then it goes on, and while checking for Tex fonts, it
writes checking for cmex10... and I have another error message In.exe has
encountered a problem..., and have the same again while checking for
cmmi10, cmr10, cmsy10, eufm10, musam10, msbm10, wasy10, then
same error message but about diff.exe 5 times. Then, it says that lyx has
been (re)configurated.

When I then try to use lyx, I can open a document and view it in DraftDVI,
but if I try to view it with anything else, I have an error Cannot convert
file Error while executing python C:/Program
Files/lyx/Resources/lyx/scripts and the message is an ImportError for the
os module.

I have tried reconfigurating lyx, checked all my installs the best I could,
but I have to say I don't know which way to approach it anymore: is it the
Python install or the msys one ??

Anybody has any hint ??

Thanks in advance for your help,

Mélanie


Re: Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 22:44, mel b wrote:
 and the message is an ImportError for the os module.

  This is an indication that something is wrong with your python installation.

  I am not saying that this is the only problem or the cause of the others, 
but this should not happen in a normal setup.

-- 
José Abílio


Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread mel b
Hi all,

I am using lyx for a while on windows, and decided today to try the new,
supported ! , windows version. I uninstalled my lyx version the best I
could, and followed the instructions on the Lyx Wiki. Everything seemed fine
until I launch lyx.

Then, while lyx was configuring, just after the message creating
doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx has been written on the console, I get a nice windows
window tr.exe has encoutered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for
the inconvenience. Then it goes on, and while checking for Tex fonts, it
writes checking for cmex10... and I have another error message In.exe has
encountered a problem..., and have the same again while checking for
cmmi10, cmr10, cmsy10, eufm10, musam10, msbm10, wasy10, then
same error message but about diff.exe 5 times. Then, it says that lyx has
been (re)configurated.

When I then try to use lyx, I can open a document and view it in DraftDVI,
but if I try to view it with anything else, I have an error Cannot convert
file Error while executing python C:/Program
Files/lyx/Resources/lyx/scripts and the message is an ImportError for the
os module.

I have tried reconfigurating lyx, checked all my installs the best I could,
but I have to say I don't know which way to approach it anymore: is it the
Python install or the msys one ??

Anybody has any hint ??

Thanks in advance for your help,

Mélanie


Re: Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 22:44, mel b wrote:
 and the message is an ImportError for the os module.

  This is an indication that something is wrong with your python installation.

  I am not saying that this is the only problem or the cause of the others, 
but this should not happen in a normal setup.

-- 
José Abílio


Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread mel b
Hi all,

I am using lyx for a while on windows, and decided today to try the new,
supported ! , windows version. I uninstalled my lyx version the best I
could, and followed the instructions on the Lyx Wiki. Everything seemed fine
until I launch lyx.

Then, while lyx was configuring, just after the message "creating
doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx" has been written on the console, I get a nice windows
window "tr.exe has encoutered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for
the inconvenience". Then it goes on, and while checking for Tex fonts, it
writes "checking for cmex10..." and I have another error message "In.exe has
encountered a problem...", and have the same again while checking for
"cmmi10", "cmr10", "cmsy10", "eufm10", "musam10", "msbm10", "wasy10", then
same error message but about "diff.exe" 5 times. Then, it says that lyx has
been (re)configurated.

When I then try to use lyx, I can open a document and view it in DraftDVI,
but if I try to view it with anything else, I have an error "Cannot convert
file Error while executing python "C:/Program
Files/lyx/Resources/lyx/scripts"" and the message is an ImportError for the
os module.

I have tried reconfigurating lyx, checked all my installs the best I could,
but I have to say I don't know which way to approach it anymore: is it the
Python install or the msys one ??

Anybody has any hint ??

Thanks in advance for your help,

Mélanie


Re: Installing Lyx on Windows: pb with Python (or msys?)

2005-11-16 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 22:44, mel b wrote:
> and the message is an ImportError for the os module.

  This is an indication that something is wrong with your python installation.

  I am not saying that this is the only problem or the cause of the others, 
but this should not happen in a normal setup.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-12 Thread Richard Brown
Hello Paul, and all the others who gave suugestions as well

Thanks for the marvellous level of support - way beyond anything I've
ever experienced with commercial software - as well as encouragement.
The problem seems to have been the old version of sed, as well as an
empty version of textclass.lst that somehow happened elsewhere on the HD
as a result either of the installation or of my half-baked attempts to
get it right. I now have the opening splash screen and a whole program
menu to play with, as well as a free Sunday morning... oh happy day!

Thanks again to all

Richard

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Richard Brown wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
 all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
 was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
 lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
 C:\lyx
 which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
 exe did this.


 This looks fine.

 The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
 In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
 called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
 another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
 and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
 textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

 IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
 aa aa article (AA) false
 aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
 aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true


 This is as it should be.

 When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
 the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
 I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
 to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
 difference. The error still says

 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

 Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit



 I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to
 give.

 Richard


 The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not
 exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes
 (and *that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the
 configuration script). Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the
 directory where LyX starts (which is not necessarily the bin
 directory), then LyX should find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start
 ok (I just verified this on my laptop). On the other hand, if you have
 a zero-length copy in the startup directory and a valid copy in
 lyx\share\lyx, you get the error (also just verified). So my best
 guess is that there is in fact a zero byte version sitting around
 somewhere.

 So here are a couple of things to try:

 1. Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the
 Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir
 c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up.
 That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.

 2. Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work),
 copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there. While you're at
 it, copy packages.lst, clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default
 from lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well. (Not all of those
 may exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and
 I'm still not sure whether you've had one.) Now create a shortcut to
 the lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create
 the shortcut from the context menu that pops up). Now right-click the
 shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target
 and startup entries as follows:

 Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
 Start in: C;\lyx\bin

 (the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be
 sure ...). Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the
 shortcut. Does that help?

 One other thing to check: open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type
 'sed --version'. If the version number starts with a 3, you're using
 the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to
 fail in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst. There's a tip
 on the Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed. Note that
 what you download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an
 *installer* that has to be run to install sed. (Some people have
 gotten confused and thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)

 Let us know what transpires.

 -- Paul





Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-12 Thread Richard Brown
Hello Paul, and all the others who gave suugestions as well

Thanks for the marvellous level of support - way beyond anything I've
ever experienced with commercial software - as well as encouragement.
The problem seems to have been the old version of sed, as well as an
empty version of textclass.lst that somehow happened elsewhere on the HD
as a result either of the installation or of my half-baked attempts to
get it right. I now have the opening splash screen and a whole program
menu to play with, as well as a free Sunday morning... oh happy day!

Thanks again to all

Richard

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Richard Brown wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
 all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
 was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
 lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
 C:\lyx
 which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
 exe did this.


 This looks fine.

 The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
 In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
 called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
 another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
 and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
 textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

 IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
 aa aa article (AA) false
 aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
 aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true


 This is as it should be.

 When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
 the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
 I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
 to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
 difference. The error still says

 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

 Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit



 I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to
 give.

 Richard


 The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not
 exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes
 (and *that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the
 configuration script). Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the
 directory where LyX starts (which is not necessarily the bin
 directory), then LyX should find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start
 ok (I just verified this on my laptop). On the other hand, if you have
 a zero-length copy in the startup directory and a valid copy in
 lyx\share\lyx, you get the error (also just verified). So my best
 guess is that there is in fact a zero byte version sitting around
 somewhere.

 So here are a couple of things to try:

 1. Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the
 Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir
 c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up.
 That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.

 2. Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work),
 copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there. While you're at
 it, copy packages.lst, clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default
 from lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well. (Not all of those
 may exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and
 I'm still not sure whether you've had one.) Now create a shortcut to
 the lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create
 the shortcut from the context menu that pops up). Now right-click the
 shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target
 and startup entries as follows:

 Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
 Start in: C;\lyx\bin

 (the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be
 sure ...). Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the
 shortcut. Does that help?

 One other thing to check: open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type
 'sed --version'. If the version number starts with a 3, you're using
 the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to
 fail in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst. There's a tip
 on the Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed. Note that
 what you download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an
 *installer* that has to be run to install sed. (Some people have
 gotten confused and thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)

 Let us know what transpires.

 -- Paul





Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-12 Thread Richard Brown
Hello Paul, and all the others who gave suugestions as well

Thanks for the marvellous level of support - way beyond anything I've
ever experienced with commercial software - as well as encouragement.
The problem seems to have been the old version of sed, as well as an
empty version of textclass.lst that somehow happened elsewhere on the HD
as a result either of the installation or of my half-baked attempts to
get it right. I now have the opening splash screen and a whole program
menu to play with, as well as a free Sunday morning... oh happy day!

Thanks again to all

Richard

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Richard Brown wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
>> all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
>> was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
>> lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
>> C:\lyx
>> which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
>> exe did this.
>
>
> This looks fine.
>
>> The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
>> In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
>> called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
>> another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
>> and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
>> textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:
>>
>> "IEEEtran" "IEEEtran" "article (IEEEtran)" "true"
>> "aa" "aa" "article (A)" "false"
>> "aapaper" "aa" "article (A V4)" "false"
>> "aastex" "aastex" "article (AASTeX)" "true"
>
>
> This is as it should be.
>
>> When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
>> the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
>> I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
>> to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
>> difference. The error still says
>>
>> LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description
>>
>> Check the contents of the file “textclass.lst”
>> Sorry, has to exit
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to
>> give.
>>
>> Richard
>
>
> The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not
> exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes
> (and *that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the
> configuration script). Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the
> directory where LyX starts (which is not necessarily the bin
> directory), then LyX should find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start
> ok (I just verified this on my laptop). On the other hand, if you have
> a zero-length copy in the startup directory and a valid copy in
> lyx\share\lyx, you get the error (also just verified). So my best
> guess is that there is in fact a zero byte version sitting around
> somewhere.
>
> So here are a couple of things to try:
>
> 1. Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the
> Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir
> c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up.
> That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.
>
> 2. Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work),
> copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there. While you're at
> it, copy packages.lst, clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default
> from lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well. (Not all of those
> may exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and
> I'm still not sure whether you've had one.) Now create a shortcut to
> the lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create
> the shortcut from the context menu that pops up). Now right-click the
> shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target
> and startup entries as follows:
>
> Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
> Start in: C;\lyx\bin
>
> (the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be
> sure ...). Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the
> shortcut. Does that help?
>
> One other thing to check: open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type
> 'sed --version'. If the version number starts with a 3, you're using
> the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to
> fail in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst. There's a tip
> on the Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed. Note that
> what you download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an
> *installer* that has to be run to install sed. (Some people have
> gotten confused and thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)
>
> Let us know what transpires.
>
> -- Paul
>
>
>


Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx
I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space. Thanks in advance for your help: this linux based stuff
is all new to me, but I think from reading that lyx will be a major help
to me as a professional writer- If I can get it up and running!

Richard


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás

Hei!

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre

If you are already using the installer for version 1.3.6, be sure it is 
the last version (i.e. v.12). The problem you mentioned was presnet in a 
 previous version of the installer, but it should be solved in v.12.


Anyway, be sure you have Miktex installed and that you have also 
installed all your latex class files. Then open Lyx and run 
Edit-Reconfigure


Hope it helps!

Nicols

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 




Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Nicols a crit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre


Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Uwe Sthr wrote:
 accents don't work.

Uwe, don't the accents work in general or only in the workarea? I.e., do they 
work in the dialog widgets?

Jrgen


[Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
got exactly the same error.

 Original Message 
Nicols wrote


Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Richard Brown wrote:
 Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
 advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
 I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
 sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
 attempt to run lyx I got this error message:
 
 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description
 
 Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit
 
 
 The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
 and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 






Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás
Sorry! I guess you are right Uwe. It is just that I am using v1.3.6 
without problems (at least no more than those v1.3.5 has), so therefore 
I recommended it. But again, you are right, for me works ok, but for 
other people, using other features than those I use, it may give problems.


Uwe Sthr wrote:

Nicols a crit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe





Re: [Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Richard Brown wrote:

 I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
 got exactly the same error.

I think that I would also suggest that an advanced idiot (;-)) doesn't
use LyX 1.3.6pre just yet. There are some bugs in the underlyxing Qt/Win
Free library that can cause a hard crash. See
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#known_bugs

Moving on to the specific problem.

Can you open a MinSYS console (since you have installed MinSYS) and type:

$ cd /c/Program\ Files/LyX/Resources/lyx
$ ls

Does the file textclass.lst really not exist? Assuming not, type

$ sh configure --keep-temps 21  configure.log

(You'll need to have Administrator privileges for this to work if you have
installed LyX at this location.)

This will save all output from the configure script to a file
configure.log. Have a look at it with your favourite text editor. Does it
tell you anything interesting?

You may need to convert the line endings of configure.log from DOS to UNIX
style --- notepad gets horribly confused and prints out the entire file as
a single line if it has UNIX style line endings. If so, use the attached
sed script, so:

$ sed -f unix2dos.sed configure.log  tmp
$ mv -f tmp configure.log

Here, of course, configure runs successfully leaving me with all these
files:

$ ls
binddoc   lyxrc.defaults  texput.log
chkconfig.sed   examples  Makefiletextclass.lst
chkconfig.vars  help  packages.lstui
chklayouts.tex  imagesreLyX   wrap_chkconfig.log
clipart kbd   scripts wrap_chkconfig.ltx
configure.log   layouts   templates   xfonts

Let's see what happens for you.

Angus

-- 
Anguss/$/
/


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot,


The advanced part puts you one up on me.  :-)


so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.


Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory??  Did you 
start LyX from the bin directory?  Is packages.lst in the bin directory 
as well (and does it have non-zero length)?



The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx


Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin, 
right?



I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space.


AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with respect 
to the processor.  You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a system with 
only 128MB of RAM, though.  (But that doesn't account for the problem at 
hand.)


I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for now, 
rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.


FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your 
home directory (which is either the directory from which it is started 
or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths | Working 
directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences).  It also 
creates a subdirectory tree under that directory.  To minimize clutter, 
if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document directory 
(for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.  I don't 
know any reason why it would have trouble finding textclass.lst in the 
bin directory if that's where it was started, but then I've never tried 
that (and don't intend to).


-- Paul



Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this. The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true

When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Richard Brown wrote:

 Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
 advanced idiot,


 The advanced part puts you one up on me. :-)

 so I've assuredly done something wrong.
 I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
 sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
 attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

 Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit


 The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
 and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.


 Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory?? Did you
 start LyX from the bin directory? Is packages.lst in the bin directory
 as well (and does it have non-zero length)?

 The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx


 Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in
 c:\lyx\lyx\bin, right?

 I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
 free disk space.


 AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with
 respect to the processor. You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a
 system with only 128MB of RAM, though. (But that doesn't account for
 the problem at hand.)

 I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for
 now, rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.

 FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your
 home directory (which is either the directory from which it is
 started or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths |
 Working directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences). It
 also creates a subdirectory tree under that directory. To minimize
 clutter, if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document
 directory (for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.
 I don't know any reason why it would have trouble finding
 textclass.lst in the bin directory if that's where it was started, but
 then I've never tried that (and don't intend to).

 -- Paul





Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this.


This looks fine.


The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true


This is as it should be.


When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard


The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not 
exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes (and 
*that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the configuration 
script).  Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the directory where LyX 
starts (which is not necessarily the bin directory), then LyX should 
find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start ok (I just verified this on my 
laptop).  On the other hand, if you have a zero-length copy in the 
startup directory and a valid copy in lyx\share\lyx, you get the error 
(also just verified).  So my best guess is that there is in fact a zero 
byte version sitting around somewhere.


So here are a couple of things to try:

1.  Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the 
Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir 
c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up. 
That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.


2.  Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work), 
copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there.  While you're at it, 
copy packages.lst,  clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default from 
lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well.  (Not all of those may 
exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and I'm 
still not sure whether you've had one.)  Now create a shortcut to the 
lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create the 
shortcut from the context menu that pops up).  Now right-click the 
shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target and 
startup entries as follows:


Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
Start in: C;\lyx\bin

(the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be 
sure ...).  Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the 
shortcut.  Does that help?


One other thing to check:  open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type 
'sed --version'.  If the version number starts with a 3, you're using 
the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to fail 
in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst.  There's a tip on the 
Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed.  Note that what you 
download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an *installer* that 
has to be run to install sed.  (Some people have gotten confused and 
thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)


Let us know what transpires.

-- Paul



Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx
I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space. Thanks in advance for your help: this linux based stuff
is all new to me, but I think from reading that lyx will be a major help
to me as a professional writer- If I can get it up and running!

Richard


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás

Hei!

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre

If you are already using the installer for version 1.3.6, be sure it is 
the last version (i.e. v.12). The problem you mentioned was presnet in a 
 previous version of the installer, but it should be solved in v.12.


Anyway, be sure you have Miktex installed and that you have also 
installed all your latex class files. Then open Lyx and run 
Edit-Reconfigure


Hope it helps!

Nicols

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 




Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Nicols a crit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre


Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Uwe Sthr wrote:
 accents don't work.

Uwe, don't the accents work in general or only in the workarea? I.e., do they 
work in the dialog widgets?

Jrgen


[Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
got exactly the same error.

 Original Message 
Nicols wrote


Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Richard Brown wrote:
 Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
 advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
 I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
 sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
 attempt to run lyx I got this error message:
 
 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description
 
 Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit
 
 
 The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
 and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 






Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás
Sorry! I guess you are right Uwe. It is just that I am using v1.3.6 
without problems (at least no more than those v1.3.5 has), so therefore 
I recommended it. But again, you are right, for me works ok, but for 
other people, using other features than those I use, it may give problems.


Uwe Sthr wrote:

Nicols a crit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe





Re: [Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Richard Brown wrote:

 I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
 got exactly the same error.

I think that I would also suggest that an advanced idiot (;-)) doesn't
use LyX 1.3.6pre just yet. There are some bugs in the underlyxing Qt/Win
Free library that can cause a hard crash. See
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#known_bugs

Moving on to the specific problem.

Can you open a MinSYS console (since you have installed MinSYS) and type:

$ cd /c/Program\ Files/LyX/Resources/lyx
$ ls

Does the file textclass.lst really not exist? Assuming not, type

$ sh configure --keep-temps 21  configure.log

(You'll need to have Administrator privileges for this to work if you have
installed LyX at this location.)

This will save all output from the configure script to a file
configure.log. Have a look at it with your favourite text editor. Does it
tell you anything interesting?

You may need to convert the line endings of configure.log from DOS to UNIX
style --- notepad gets horribly confused and prints out the entire file as
a single line if it has UNIX style line endings. If so, use the attached
sed script, so:

$ sed -f unix2dos.sed configure.log  tmp
$ mv -f tmp configure.log

Here, of course, configure runs successfully leaving me with all these
files:

$ ls
binddoc   lyxrc.defaults  texput.log
chkconfig.sed   examples  Makefiletextclass.lst
chkconfig.vars  help  packages.lstui
chklayouts.tex  imagesreLyX   wrap_chkconfig.log
clipart kbd   scripts wrap_chkconfig.ltx
configure.log   layouts   templates   xfonts

Let's see what happens for you.

Angus

-- 
Anguss/$/
/


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot,


The advanced part puts you one up on me.  :-)


so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.


Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory??  Did you 
start LyX from the bin directory?  Is packages.lst in the bin directory 
as well (and does it have non-zero length)?



The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx


Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin, 
right?



I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space.


AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with respect 
to the processor.  You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a system with 
only 128MB of RAM, though.  (But that doesn't account for the problem at 
hand.)


I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for now, 
rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.


FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your 
home directory (which is either the directory from which it is started 
or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths | Working 
directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences).  It also 
creates a subdirectory tree under that directory.  To minimize clutter, 
if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document directory 
(for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.  I don't 
know any reason why it would have trouble finding textclass.lst in the 
bin directory if that's where it was started, but then I've never tried 
that (and don't intend to).


-- Paul



Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this. The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true

When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Richard Brown wrote:

 Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
 advanced idiot,


 The advanced part puts you one up on me. :-)

 so I've assuredly done something wrong.
 I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
 sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
 attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

 LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

 Check the contents of teh file textclass.lst
 Sorry, has to exit


 The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
 and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.


 Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory?? Did you
 start LyX from the bin directory? Is packages.lst in the bin directory
 as well (and does it have non-zero length)?

 The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx


 Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in
 c:\lyx\lyx\bin, right?

 I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
 free disk space.


 AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with
 respect to the processor. You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a
 system with only 128MB of RAM, though. (But that doesn't account for
 the problem at hand.)

 I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for
 now, rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.

 FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your
 home directory (which is either the directory from which it is
 started or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths |
 Working directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences). It
 also creates a subdirectory tree under that directory. To minimize
 clutter, if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document
 directory (for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.
 I don't know any reason why it would have trouble finding
 textclass.lst in the bin directory if that's where it was started, but
 then I've never tried that (and don't intend to).

 -- Paul





Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this.


This looks fine.


The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) true
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false
aastex aastex article (AASTeX) true


This is as it should be.


When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasnt able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file textclass.lst
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard


The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not 
exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes (and 
*that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the configuration 
script).  Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the directory where LyX 
starts (which is not necessarily the bin directory), then LyX should 
find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start ok (I just verified this on my 
laptop).  On the other hand, if you have a zero-length copy in the 
startup directory and a valid copy in lyx\share\lyx, you get the error 
(also just verified).  So my best guess is that there is in fact a zero 
byte version sitting around somewhere.


So here are a couple of things to try:

1.  Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the 
Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir 
c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up. 
That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.


2.  Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work), 
copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there.  While you're at it, 
copy packages.lst,  clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default from 
lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well.  (Not all of those may 
exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and I'm 
still not sure whether you've had one.)  Now create a shortcut to the 
lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create the 
shortcut from the context menu that pops up).  Now right-click the 
shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target and 
startup entries as follows:


Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
Start in: C;\lyx\bin

(the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be 
sure ...).  Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the 
shortcut.  Does that help?


One other thing to check:  open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type 
'sed --version'.  If the version number starts with a 3, you're using 
the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to fail 
in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst.  There's a tip on the 
Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed.  Note that what you 
download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an *installer* that 
has to be run to install sed.  (Some people have gotten confused and 
thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)


Let us know what transpires.

-- Paul



Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file “textclass.lst”
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx
I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space. Thanks in advance for your help: this linux based stuff
is all new to me, but I think from reading that lyx will be a major help
to me as a professional writer- If I can get it up and running!

Richard


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás

Hei!

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre

If you are already using the installer for version 1.3.6, be sure it is 
the last version (i.e. v.12). The problem you mentioned was presnet in a 
 previous version of the installer, but it should be solved in v.12.


Anyway, be sure you have Miktex installed and that you have also 
installed all your latex class files. Then open Lyx and run 
Edit->Reconfigure


Hope it helps!

Nicolás

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file “textclass.lst”
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 




Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Nicolás a écrit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre


Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> accents don't work.

Uwe, don't the accents work in general or only in the workarea? I.e., do they 
work in the dialog widgets?

Jürgen


[Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
got exactly the same error.

 Original Message 
Nicolàs wrote


Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Richard Brown wrote:
> Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
> advanced idiot, so I've assuredly done something wrong.
> I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
> sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
> attempt to run lyx I got this error message:
> 
> LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description
> 
> Check the contents of teh file “textclass.lst”
> Sorry, has to exit
> 
> 
> The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
> and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin. 






Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Nicolás
Sorry! I guess you are right Uwe. It is just that I am using v1.3.6 
without problems (at least no more than those v1.3.5 has), so therefore 
I recommended it. But again, you are right, for me works ok, but for 
other people, using other features than those I use, it may give problems.


Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Nicolás a écrit:

Are you using version 1.3.6? If not, I recommend you use this version. 
it comes with ans installer, so life is easier. You can get it from here

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre



Attention! This is a testing release and has BUGS!!! E.g. accents don't 
work.


It is recommended to use LyX 1.3.5 for daily use!

regards Uwe





Re: [Fwd: Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP]

2005-06-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Richard Brown wrote:

> I tried that just now. It all installed apparently quite hapily. Then I
> got exactly the same error.

I think that I would also suggest that an "advanced idiot" (;-)) doesn't
use LyX 1.3.6pre just yet. There are some bugs in the underlyxing Qt/Win
Free library that can cause a hard crash. See
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136pre#known_bugs

Moving on to the specific problem.

Can you open a MinSYS console (since you have installed MinSYS) and type:

$ cd /c/Program\ Files/LyX/Resources/lyx
$ ls

Does the file "textclass.lst" really not exist? Assuming not, type

$ sh configure --keep-temps 2>&1 > configure.log

(You'll need to have Administrator privileges for this to work if you have
installed LyX at this location.)

This will save all output from the configure script to a file
configure.log. Have a look at it with your favourite text editor. Does it
tell you anything interesting?

You may need to convert the line endings of configure.log from DOS to UNIX
style --- notepad gets horribly confused and prints out the entire file as
a single line if it has UNIX style line endings. If so, use the attached
sed script, so:

$ sed -f unix2dos.sed configure.log > tmp
$ mv -f tmp configure.log

Here, of course, configure runs successfully leaving me with all these
files:

$ ls
binddoc   lyxrc.defaults  texput.log
chkconfig.sed   examples  Makefiletextclass.lst
chkconfig.vars  help  packages.lstui
chklayouts.tex  imagesreLyX   wrap_chkconfig.log
clipart kbd   scripts wrap_chkconfig.ltx
configure.log   layouts   templates   xfonts

Let's see what happens for you.

Angus

-- 
Anguss/$/
/


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
advanced idiot,


The "advanced" part puts you one up on me.  :-)


so I've assuredly done something wrong.
I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
attempt to run lyx I got this error message:

LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description

Check the contents of teh file “textclass.lst”
Sorry, has to exit


The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.


Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory??  Did you 
start LyX from the bin directory?  Is packages.lst in the bin directory 
as well (and does it have non-zero length)?



The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx


Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin, 
right?



I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
free disk space.


AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with respect 
to the processor.  You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a system with 
only 128MB of RAM, though.  (But that doesn't account for the problem at 
hand.)


I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for now, 
rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.


FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your 
"home" directory (which is either the directory from which it is started 
or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths | Working 
directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences).  It also 
creates a subdirectory tree under that directory.  To minimize clutter, 
if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document directory 
(for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.  I don't 
know any reason why it would have trouble finding textclass.lst in the 
bin directory if that's where it was started, but then I've never tried 
that (and don't intend to).


-- Paul



Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Richard Brown
Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this. The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

"IEEEtran" "IEEEtran" "article (IEEEtran)" "true"
"aa" "aa" "article (A)" "false"
"aapaper" "aa" "article (A V4)" "false"
"aastex" "aastex" "article (AASTeX)" "true"

When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file “textclass.lst”
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard
Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Richard Brown wrote:
>
>> Grateful for help with installing. My level of technical competence is
>> advanced idiot,
>
>
> The "advanced" part puts you one up on me. :-)
>
>> so I've assuredly done something wrong.
>> I think I followed the instruction on the wiki exactly. I installed all
>> sorts of things one by one and it all looked OK. then at the first
>> attempt to run lyx I got this error message:
>>
>> LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description
>>
>> Check the contents of teh file “textclass.lst”
>> Sorry, has to exit
>>
>>
>> The file exists, and isn't empty, and is the file the installation made,
>> and is in c:\lyx\lyx\bin.
>
>
> Are you saying that textclass.lst is in the bin directory?? Did you
> start LyX from the bin directory? Is packages.lst in the bin directory
> as well (and does it have non-zero length)?
>
>> The whole program is in c:\lyx\lyx
>
>
> Just to confirm your directory structure, lyx.exe is in
> c:\lyx\lyx\bin, right?
>
>> I'm using win xp pro on an amd 1300 with 128 RAM and loads and loads of
>> free disk space.
>
>
> AFAIK, LyX and all helper programs are completely agnostic with
> respect to the processor. You're a brave soul to run XP Pro on a
> system with only 128MB of RAM, though. (But that doesn't account for
> the problem at hand.)
>
> I'm with the others on this thread -- I'd stick with LyX 1.3.5 for
> now, rather than become an alpha tester for 1.3.6.
>
> FYI, LyX creates a variety of files (including textclass.lst) in your
> "home" directory (which is either the directory from which it is
> started or the directory specified in Edit | Preferences | Paths |
> Working directory (once you get into LyX and set some preferences). It
> also creates a subdirectory tree under that directory. To minimize
> clutter, if for no other reason, I'd advise creating a base document
> directory (for instance, c:\lyx\documents) and starting it from there.
> I don't know any reason why it would have trouble finding
> textclass.lst in the bin directory if that's where it was started, but
> then I've never tried that (and don't intend to).
>
> -- Paul
>
>
>


Re: Help with installing lyx under windows XP

2005-06-11 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Richard Brown wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intervene in the directory structure at
all as far as I remember, but anyway I renamed the directory where it
was, and ran the installation .exe again. (This was
lyx-1.3.5-win32-nc.exe) with the following result: in C: I now have
C:\lyx
which contains bin, lib, man, share, tmp directories. I did nothing- the
exe did this.


This looks fine.


The C:\lyx\bin subdirectory contains the lyx.exe program.
In the c:\lyx\share subdirectory I find 2 more sub-subdirectories, one
called locale (which seems to have a lot of other language stuff) and
another called lyx (so this is c:\lyx\share\lyx ) which has packages.lst
and textclass.lst files in. Neither is empty. The first four lines of
textclass.lst are typical of the rest, and look like this-:

"IEEEtran" "IEEEtran" "article (IEEEtran)" "true"
"aa" "aa" "article (A)" "false"
"aapaper" "aa" "article (A V4)" "false"
"aastex" "aastex" "article (AASTeX)" "true"


This is as it should be.


When I run lyx, I still get the same error. I tried copying lyx.exe to
the same directory as the textclass.lst files, and it was just the same.
I tried copying the entire contents of the c:\lyx\share\lyx subdirectory
to teh same place as the lyx.exe (ie, C:\lyx\bin) and it made no
difference. The error still says

LyX wasn’t able to find any layout description

Check the contents of the file “textclass.lst”
Sorry, has to exit



I'm way out of my depth here. Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Richard


The error message typically occurs when either textclass.lst does not 
exist (anywhere) or textclass.lst exists but has length zero bytes (and 
*that* typically happens as a result of a problem with the configuration 
script).  Now, if there's no textclass.lst in the directory where LyX 
starts (which is not necessarily the bin directory), then LyX should 
find the copy in lyx\share\lyx and start ok (I just verified this on my 
laptop).  On the other hand, if you have a zero-length copy in the 
startup directory and a valid copy in lyx\share\lyx, you get the error 
(also just verified).  So my best guess is that there is in fact a zero 
byte version sitting around somewhere.


So here are a couple of things to try:

1.  Search your PC for all copies of textclass.lst (either using the 
Windows search utility or by opening a command window and typing 'dir 
c:\textclass.lst /s'), and see if any copies with length zero show up. 
That will help pin down where LyX is starting, if in fact we find one.


2.  Create a starting document directory (for instance, c:\lyx\work), 
copy the textclass.lst and paste the copy in there.  While you're at it, 
copy packages.lst,  clsfiles.lst, styfiles.lst and lyxrc.default from 
lyx\share\lyx into the work directory as well.  (Not all of those may 
exist -- some are created by a successful configuration run, and I'm 
still not sure whether you've had one.)  Now create a shortcut to the 
lyx.exe file (you can right-click it in Win Explorer and create the 
shortcut from the context menu that pops up).  Now right-click the 
shortcut, choose Properties, and on the Shortcut tab set the target and 
startup entries as follows:


Target: C:\lyx\bin\lyx.exe -userdir c:\lyx\work
Start in: C;\lyx\bin

(the second one should already be filled in correctly, but just to be 
sure ...).  Click ok and then try to start LyX by double-clicking the 
shortcut.  Does that help?


One other thing to check:  open a command prompt in c:\lyx\bin and type 
'sed --version'.  If the version number starts with a 3, you're using 
the copy of sed that came with the LyX installer, and it's known to fail 
in a way that leaves a zero-length textclass.lst.  There's a tip on the 
Wiki about where to find a more recent copy of sed.  Note that what you 
download when you follow the link from the Wiki is an *installer* that 
has to be run to install sed.  (Some people have gotten confused and 
thought they were downloading sed.exe itself.)


Let us know what transpires.

-- Paul



problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread Nirmal Govind

Hi,
I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin)
question and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then
crashes and I get a Microsoft error message which looks as
follows:
AppName: setup.exe AppVer:
0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset:
00034157 

Has anyone experienced this? Please let me know if you have any
suggestions. I'm using the latest Cygwin release (1.3.9) and downloaded
all the Lyx install files from the Lyx windows port section. 
Thanks,
nirmal


Re: problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread David Case

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:   
 
 I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
 again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
 LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin) question
 and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then crashes and
I
 get a Microsoft error message which looks as follows:

 AppName: setup.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
 ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset: 00034157


The problem seems to be that the format of setup.ini has changed since
the LyX-specific one was created.  You need to edit this file (in your
LyxInstall directory), adding two lines at the top:

setup-timestamp: 1013197208
setup-version: 2.125.2.10

(I copied the above from the setup.ini file from the standard cygwin
install directory...I don't think the timestamp matters.)  The latest
setup.exe file from cygwin gives the error you see if these initial lines
are not present.

It's too bad the changes in setup are not backwards compatible to earlier
setup.ini files.  [You could report this to the cygwin list, but be prepared
for a nasty-ish reply if you don't include a patch for the setup program
at the same time.]

...hope this helps...it worked for me anywaydac





problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread Nirmal Govind

Hi,
I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin)
question and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then
crashes and I get a Microsoft error message which looks as
follows:
AppName: setup.exe AppVer:
0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset:
00034157 

Has anyone experienced this? Please let me know if you have any
suggestions. I'm using the latest Cygwin release (1.3.9) and downloaded
all the Lyx install files from the Lyx windows port section. 
Thanks,
nirmal


Re: problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread David Case

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:   
 
 I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
 again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
 LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin) question
 and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then crashes and
I
 get a Microsoft error message which looks as follows:

 AppName: setup.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
 ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset: 00034157


The problem seems to be that the format of setup.ini has changed since
the LyX-specific one was created.  You need to edit this file (in your
LyxInstall directory), adding two lines at the top:

setup-timestamp: 1013197208
setup-version: 2.125.2.10

(I copied the above from the setup.ini file from the standard cygwin
install directory...I don't think the timestamp matters.)  The latest
setup.exe file from cygwin gives the error you see if these initial lines
are not present.

It's too bad the changes in setup are not backwards compatible to earlier
setup.ini files.  [You could report this to the cygwin list, but be prepared
for a nasty-ish reply if you don't include a patch for the setup program
at the same time.]

...hope this helps...it worked for me anywaydac





problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread Nirmal Govind

Hi,
I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin)
question and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then
crashes and I get a Microsoft error message which looks as
follows:
AppName: setup.exe AppVer:
0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset:
00034157 

Has anyone experienced this? Please let me know if you have any
suggestions. I'm using the latest Cygwin release (1.3.9) and downloaded
all the Lyx install files from the Lyx windows port section. 
Thanks,
nirmal


Re: problem installing Lyx on Windows XP

2002-02-09 Thread David Case

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:   
> 
> I setup Windows XP on my computer (clean install) and so had to setup Lyx
> again. However, when I try starting the Cygwin setup program from the
> LyxInstall directory, it goes till the root directory (C:/cygwin) question
> and then the local package directory (C:/LyxInstall) and then crashes and
I
> get a Microsoft error message which looks as follows:
>
> AppName: setup.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
> ModVer: 7.0.2600.0 Offset: 00034157
>

The problem seems to be that the format of "setup.ini" has changed since
the LyX-specific one was created.  You need to edit this file (in your
LyxInstall directory), adding two lines at the top:

setup-timestamp: 1013197208
setup-version: 2.125.2.10

(I copied the above from the setup.ini file from the standard cygwin
install directory...I don't think the timestamp matters.)  The latest
setup.exe file from cygwin gives the error you see if these initial lines
are not present.

It's too bad the changes in setup are not backwards compatible to earlier
setup.ini files.  [You could report this to the cygwin list, but be prepared
for a nasty-ish reply if you don't include a patch for the setup program
at the same time.]

...hope this helps...it worked for me anywaydac