Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would give amadeus pro a try, the more you can get away from Windows, the better. Original message: I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. Thanks to everyone again. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free.
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would use fusion for several reasons. First, you can install windows totally without sighted help, there is a quick install where you provide either the DVD or an ISO of Windows, tell it the product key and Fusion does the rest. Second, as you said, you can switch between the 2 operating systems without having to reboot. Finally, your Windows virtual machine is stored in one file, so it's really easy to back up. If something happens to it, just copy and replace it from a backup. About the only disadvantage with Fusion is that not all of your resources will be used by Windows, but if it's a high end machine, you shouldn't notice any delays. Original message: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: YouTube HTML 5 or Flash Player
Use html 5, no question, flash is totally inaccessible on the mac. On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I don't mind which I use once I use the most accessable one. Which is more accessable on your experiences? Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Anti Virus Software For Mac
Personally, I don’t use any, and don’t think it is really needed. There are some available if you want to use it though, but the best way to avoid that kind of thing is to be careful what you install and the web sites you visit. On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi! What are people using these days when it comes to Anti Virus software for the Mac? ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Getting Yosemite
Most likely you would get it from the app store. I plan on waiting until at least the first major update before installing it, that's my policy with any operating system, and it certainly was good advice when it came to IOS 8. I may upgrade once IOS 8.1 is released assuming the major issues are fixed. Original message: Hi, Folks. I want to upgrade to Yosemite, but not sure how. Will Software Update do this, or do I go to the App Store and search for it? I tried to get it through Software Update, but no success. I listened to the event today, and it was mentioned that Yosemite would be released today. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Should I move to Mavericks?
I use mavericks with a 2009 mac mini, 2010 mac mini, and 2010 mac book, works fine. I would say go ahead and upgrade. On Jul 19, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hi listers I have a 2010 mac mini, running mountain lion. It is a little slow opening apps but not too bad yet. I am about to start a degree in September and may be getting a laptop as well, which will probably be using Mavericks or Yosemite. I am looking for opinions as to the pros and cons of upgrading to Mavericks at this time and whether my mac mini will be better or worse with the upgrade. Not urgent, but thought others may be having the same thoughts. Thanks Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
I also wish to remain on the list
I also would like to remain on the mac access list. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Blind Square
I can't say how well it works in the U.K. since I live in the United States, but, in my opinion, it's well worth the purchase. When I am walking places, which I do a lot, it's the app I usually use to keep track of where I am. Open Street Map was started by someone in the U.K. I think, so I would think the information provided would be decent. Original message: Hi listers I have just moved to a new town in Yorkshire, England. Is Blind Square worth the £21 investment. Does it work well in the UK? Thanks in advance Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: itunes has changed after updates
I can also reproduce the issue of the selection no longer reading when using the arrow keys, I use this in my list of TV shows. For now, the work around is to use the voice over command to move down instead of the regular arrow keys. Original message: Hi, I have a couple answers for you. The thing which seems to have been broken is reading of what is selected when you use the arrow keys in lists. You can still select if you interact, with vo-command-enter on each track you want to chose. I can’t duplicate the problem with autocompleted song names. I type one into the search box and hi downarrow to pop up the list of possibilities. On May 16, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: After the updates I can no longer type the first few letters or words and have iTunes go to a song. I also can't move through my list of songs by using up and down arrow. I have to interact, which means I can't sellect a number of songs to do an operation such as tagging them. Is there a setting I can fix? Kristeen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Virus Protection on Mac
Different people have different views on this, personally I don't use it, and have never had a problem, but there are programs available for those who want them. Original message: Is anyone using virus protection on the Mac or just leaving it to Apple's security.- Original Message - From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web Have you also that about using the quick nav feature? You can assign commands to quick nag to get to things faster such as links headings lists and check boxes and text fields.On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote: Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing. - Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web Sounds good will try this cheers. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote: Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate groups mode. In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less keypressing needed tonavigate your documents. I never use anything else. Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on, andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow press gets me the next chunk of text. Simple and convinient. hth. On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote: I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an effecient manner. Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that navagating by single character is checked. Now my problems are that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer. I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these just gives me a beep. Finally if I move on to another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back. Please help! Thanks. Eleanor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ . --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option key
This is one thing about the mac operating system that is annoying. If you press enter while holding the option key, it will usually perform the option menu item. The thing is, you don't always know when this is available. I think it should just list all options in the menu and not hide anything. Original message: hey all, i have a quick question for you all. i was playing in the view menu of finder sitting on the arrange by sub menu and i found that when i hit the option key the sub menu changed to say sort by. how do VO users work with this? because you have to keep holding the option key down to see the new options that come up. how do you enter these menus to work with the new options? thanks for any help Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Cocktail Maintenance Utility, Tried And Tru
Yes, cocktail is a great app, another app that does similar things is called onyx, they are both good apps to have. Original message: Hi! I’ve been a user of the Cocktail Maintenance utility for 6 years or so though I never used it on a regular basis. I’ve been using Cocktail every day regularly for the last couple of months using the “Pilot” and the “Daily Script”, I’ve scheduled a time for Cocktail to run once every day at 1”00 AM and then Cocktail causes the computer to shut down after maintenance has been completed. I can honestly say that this maintenance has done wonders for the performance of my 2011 iMac machine, the computer runs a lot faster loading programmes in fractions of a second, the longest App to load is Skype and that takes around half a second. Thought Id give this a mention as people may wish to try Cocktail or a similar maintenance utility and see how they get on. Note that the “Pilot” of Cocktail is fully customisable but do read the help file before you start poking around in the options or at the very least have a backup handy smile. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
selecting more than one item in mavericks
Hey everyone, ok, I guess something has changed with voiceover in mavericks, does anyone know what the key stroke is now to select more than one item? Previously, you would turn cursor tracking off, move the voiceover cursor to each item and press vo command space. However, this key stroke now displays a list of actions you can do with the item, the only option in the voiceover help menu for selecting items is vo enter, but this does not select more than one item at a time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Tip For Apple Mail Users, Time To Trim The Trash
Another way to avoid this is to simply configure the mail program to empty the trash folder when you close it. That way you never have to worry about messages building up. Original message: Hi! So your trash is getting rather large? Can do away with all those eMails you received from eMail lists you once subscribed to? Dread the thought of tidying your Trash Box because you have thousands upon thousands of eMails to sort? Perhaps some simple rules can do the job for you, I've been using this approach over the last couple of weeks. So you find an eMail which relates to a few hundred you've say received over a period of time from a list, select it from your Trash Box, press command-, to go into Mail preferences, select Rules and click on Add Rule. Here type a description appropriate to what you plan to do, say Delete Mac-Access and then proceed to Conditions, make sure that any of the following conditions are met is select and select Any Recipient, by default the From field here should automatically show the list of eMail messages from the old list you're planning to purge from your system. From here move to Actions and select Delete Message. Press Apply and Mail will then prompt, Apply rule, answer Yes and all eMail corresponding to the rule you just created will be moved permanently from your Trash Box. All you have to do now is to remove the rule you just created and repeat the whole process again for eMail you want deleted from all those old eMail lists you're no longer a member of. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
disabling the preview pane in mail
Hey everyone, sorry, I know it’s been posted on here a lot, but in Mavericks, I can’t get rid of the mail preview pane. Don’t I need to click on one of the splitters? Actually I think you double click one of them, but can’t remember which one. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Air v. Mac mini
The biggest difference is that the mac book air is a laptop. The mac mini, though it is portable is a desktop because it is not battery powered. On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I have the Mac air. A friend of mine just got a Mac mini. I'm just curious. What's the difference between the two? sent from my phone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac Air v. Mac mini
No. It's a very small desktop, about the size of a dvd player perhaps. You have to connect a monitor, keyboard, etc. just like a large desktop computer. On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I'm sure glad I got the MacBook Air then. So is the mini like a tablet with a keyboard? sent from my phone On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: The biggest difference is that the mac book air is a laptop. The mac mini, though it is portable is a desktop because it is not battery powered. On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I have the Mac air. A friend of mine just got a Mac mini. I'm just curious. What's the difference between the two? sent from my phone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks or mountain lion?
You may want to stick with mountain lion for a while yet, until the first update for 10.9 is released. There are a few issues with mavericks. Original message: I've been on vacation for the past couple of weeks, so missed a lot of the mavericks thread. I'm fairly new to using the mac, and was wondering if most people on this list now prefer mavericks over mountain lion or mountain lion over mavericks. What do I need to look for when installing mavericks? I don't want to mess up during the installation because this computer is the only working one I have right now. Does the mail program handle yahoo mail better than mountain lion's version of mail? thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a question about finder
Using VO home only goes to the first item on the screen. Try using VO shift home, this moves to the top of the item, scrolling if necessary. Original message: hey listers, i have a problem with finder and getting to the top or bottom of a folder list. even if i interact in list view and hit VO home or end i can not get to the top or bottom of my folders. in column view i had no problem but i have had to ditch it. any help on this problem would be fantastic. thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a question about list view in finder
I have not used mavericks yet, but assuming it's similar to mountain lion, here are a few hints. Press command j to open the preferences for list view, this will allow you to choose what columns are displayed. To open a folder, I usually use command o rather than using the right arrow key to expand it, it's much easier to get back to your starting point this way. Original message: hey listers, after using column view for quite some time i have started using list view because it seems to work better in folders with a lot of content. my question is this, is there any way i can get around having to interact with every single folder that i open? it drives me round the bend. i’m using mavrics and column view just makes finder die in big folders hence the change to list view. any help would be fantastic thanks Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Are there any new voiceover features? Original message: Hi All, Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process. While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the system before committing yourself. In particular, iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks. Warmest regards, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility
This is more of an adobe problem than a voiceover issue. Windows is a different platform, and Adobe has made flash somewhat accessible on that platform, but this has not been done on the mac. Fortunately, flash is slowly going away and being replaced by html 5 which provides all of the same features and is much more accessible, hopefully this site will move to html 5 soon. Original message: Hi all - In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I contacted Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, as they say Adobe hasn't made flash accessible to screen readers, and yet JAWS for one does pretty much ok these days with it. Non the less, perhaps if lots of us folowed their sugestion of contacting Adobe, this time it might make a difference? - Andy Hello, Thank you for your email. Unfortunately there is an issue with the Flash component that makes it inaccessible to screen readers. Apple has reported this issue to Adobe over the years and in March of 2011 they announced plans to fix it, you can see their blog post in the link below: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html Unfortunately, Adobe has not made the appropriate changes to Flash that make it screen reader compatible. We would encourage the you to contact Adobe and request that they implement the changes that will make Flash content accessible. Apple Accessibility --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility
Right, they have not done anything to make it accessible on the mac. You might contactthe site and ask if they have any plans to move to html5. That's the way of the future, so if they have no plans for this, they are not keeping up to date with things. Original message: Thanks for the info about HTML 5. I wasn't aware of it, or how it could replace Flash. I only mentioned other screen readers and Windows, because the reply from Apple said that Adobe had not done anything to make flash accessible to screen readers. This was not a correct statement in respect of JAWS and Window Eyes - Andy On 27 Sep 2013, at 21:40, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This is more of an adobe problem than a voiceover issue. Windows is a different platform, and Adobe has made flash somewhat accessible on that platform, but this has not been done on the mac. Fortunately, flash is slowly going away and being replaced by html 5 which provides all of the same features and is much more accessible, hopefully this site will move to html 5 soon. Original message: Hi all - In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I contacted Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, as they say Adobe hasn't made flash accessible to screen readers, and yet JAWS for one does pretty much ok these days with it. Non the less, perhaps if lots of us folowed their sugestion of contacting Adobe, this time it might make a difference? - Andy Hello, Thank you for your email. Unfortunately there is an issue with the Flash component that makes it inaccessible to screen readers. Apple has reported this issue to Adobe over the years and in March of 2011 they announced plans to fix it, you can see their blog post in the link below: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html Unfortunately, Adobe has not made the appropriate changes to Flash that make it screen reader compatible. We would encourage the you to contact Adobe and request that they implement the changes that will make Flash content accessible. Apple Accessibility --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences
Re: Web browsing
Have not seen this directly, but one thing you might try, if you have not already done so, hide your tool bars, they can sometimes draw the focus away from the main content of the page. Actually this is good advice for most applications, especially since there are usually keyboard shortcuts for most tool bar items. Original message: Hi all - A common experience today when web browsing, was that when I clicked on many links, instead of the page opening, I had to physically interact with HTML. I don't know why sometimes pages just open, and at other times I have to interact with HTML, but in the past it's still been ok, but today, on those occasions when I've had to interact, I couldn't use any of the hot key combinations to jump say to headings, or to search for things, each time I tried, I was thrown out of interacting, so other than VO arrowing tediously, or tabbing, I couldn't access the info on the page. Do others have this experience with some links and webpages? - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Onyx
You bet, it's a great app for sure. That and cocktail are the 2 best apps in this category. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone has anyone tried or does anyone use Onyx? I think this is a fantastic utility for your mac. It is a maintenance and cleaning tool as well as offering other functions. Downloaded and ran it today and my 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Mountain Lion is now faster. Go search for it via Google as it's not in the Mac App Store. It's by Titanium Software. Kind regards Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: State of Apple Accessibility (was: Re: Logic Pro X accessibility: the view from Cupertino)
I don't even have a pc at home anymore. I only use windows for one thing and that's because there is no mac version of it. Other than, it's the mac all the way for me, this is for web browsing, email, music, documents, and other things I can't think of. Anyone who says that accessibility only half works on the mac has never really given it a chance. On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:28 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: OK, maybe I am missing something here, but I am reading some of the most ridiculous and assumption ridden posts in this thread. How in the world can you say the Mac is half-baked? The Mac is just as accessible as Windows at this point, and for whatever weaknesses you can point out in OS X, I can equally find in Windows. I know blind people productively using the Mac every day for their work, and I can give you several testimonials from former Windows users who will flat out tell you that Mac accessibility is superior to that in Windows hands down. I just had this conversation with a client who is a former JAWS user who was using Windows since 1994 and still uses Windows because he paid for a SMA. In any event, to assume Apple is done with accessibility or has done so to legally get by is a generally opinionated statement that has no factual or concrete evidence beyond personal belief. How far the Mac has come since Tiger, including Lion to Mountain Lion, is proof enough, and if it’s not satisfactory enough to you, that is your problem and not a general reflection of the state of accessibility among most blind Mac users. Is it perfect? Of course not. I can list the flaws as readily as anyone else, especially since I train folks to use the Mac every day. However, as I said, I can list just as many in Windows, if not more in some regard. Also, well, show me an operating system the blind can use with perfection. We can go on and on about our accessibility gripes about every operating system, but in many cases, the reality does not truly reflect our narrow world views of things. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Chris, Just to be clear I think they've done a stellar job on IOS. Sure there are things I'd like to see, things I'd have done differently; but that applies to my own development work (in retrospect) as well. The reality is that four and a half years after iWork 09 was released, it is still lacking in what I would consider to be basic accessibility and, more importantly, usability. People like Anne Robertson (on this list) have come up with workarounds to get past issues that t we really shouldn't have to be working around. With every new update I hope that some new features will be introduced, but more importantly I want longstanding bugs to have gone away. Neither happens. Like you, I've stopped recommending the mac for anyone other than those who want a glorified mediaplayer. It is not a productivity machine at this stage. Dónal On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:25, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I agree, Mac OS X accessibility sucks. iOS is far superior and the Mac is half baked and very buggy. I could never recommend the Mac as a productive tool for the blind. I don't think we should give up though, we need to keep up the pressure. We also need to shame Apple by bringing it to the attention of mainstream press Let's try and convince someone to publish an article on how crap Voiceover is on the Mac. We only ever seem to get a slight update each time a new OS comes out. We need to keep making a noise and more of it. Chris On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Chris, Dealing with both your mails in one here. I wholeheartedly agree. I've been convinced for almost 2 years that Apple sees their job in terms of accessibility for the blind, specifically on OSX but to a lesser extent on IOS, as done. They can walk into any courtroom and claim, with justification, that they are in compliance with ADA, section 508, EU disability legislation etc. Afraid in my view OSX accessibility is dying on the vine so we may as well accept that what we have now is as good as it's going to get. Cheers, Dónal On 20 Jul 2013, at 06:31, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: And, though I cannot go into the specifics due to NDA, I'll say this, and under no circumstances anything more. I've reported through bug reporter many many bugs as I'm an Apple Dev both for IOS and for OSX. In both cases a lot of the bugs
Re: iPhone does not charge
When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly after disconnecting the cable? Original message: It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not charge this evening. It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge. I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop and Mains charger to no affect. The fact that data is transferring OK is strange. I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old. However has anybody got any bright ideas? David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone does not charge
You might try resetting the phone, I think you hold the home and power buttons for around 10 seconds. I remember readingthat this fixed that problem for someone. Original message: No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is charging I am afraid. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly after disconnecting the cable? Original message: It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not charge this evening. It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge. I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop and Mains charger to no affect. The fact that data is transferring OK is strange. I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old. However has anybody got any bright ideas? David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your
Re: help getting voice over to read out skype chats while in the chat window
You can configure skype itself to tell you when you have a chat message, once you get that message, usually you can just move your voiceover cursor to the control that voiceover calls a grid and read the message, not totally automatic but very simple. Original message: Good morning, I am new to this list so hi to you all, I was wondering if there is away to get voice over to read incoming skype chats while a person is in the skype chat window? I have had voiceover read a chat window when I am out of skype itself but when I am in skype's window it just tells me who is skype chatting me. Any help would be appreciated for this issue of mine. It could be I am just a spoiled windows jaws user who has scripts installed so jaws is able to do what I am asking here. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: getting there
Also, you may need to make sure the option to open safe files after downloading is selected, otherwise it will just save the play list file and you will have to open it manually. Original message: Hello John, I clicked on your link and it started streaming immediately. I only have Safari on my Mac, so I suspect you need to install both Flash player and Flip4Mac. Cheers, Anne On 8 Jul 2013, at 21:44, John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com wrote: Hi all Well after a hard day's learning I feel I have made great progres. one thing in safari to play media like www.williamhillradio.com do you need to install some kind of flash or is this why people are asking about other browsers? thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Article: Apple loses its shine
Exactly. You may have 3 or 4 copies of the same TTS engine on your device, because each application must provide their own TTS and Apple does not allow you to install other voices and use them system wise. They also do not allow developers to use the voices that are already built in. Those restrictions are just silly. Original message: Now with the keyboards and voices I agree. I hate that voice dream has to provide voices that read2go already has, and that seroprok can't be on iOS, and that eSpeak can't be ported to iOS. But I heard they're opening up a lot of API's for iOS7, so yeah, maybe speech and keyboard is among them. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: I don't want Apple to be google, and I do not want IOS to be android. But what I would like is for IOS to provide the features that in most other operating systems, desktop and mobile. I honestly cannot think of any other operating system that did not allow you to manage files. Windows provides this, so does the Mac, linux, and even Symbian and Windows Mobile 6 provided this functionality. Why IOS does not provide or even really allow this easily I will never understand. Also the issues of not allowing you to install other keyboards, this doesn't really apply to most desktop operating systems, but the voices restriction does. With just about every other operating system, you can install other voices and use them system wide, each application is not required to include its own voice, again, there is simply no logical reason for that. On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: I somewhat agree with you, but I just don't want Apple to be Google. I love apple's commitment to accessibility better. LOL as we all surely do. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd have to agree with both of you, I love mac for my desktop platform, but I like my android tablet because it's more versatile. I wish apple would make iOs more versatile, like mac, I'm probably one of a few that would like iOs to act like mac os. I thin if the device is mine, I should be able to install whatever app I want on it. Courtney Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Yep, I would say you hit the mark exactly. I'm actually probably a rare breed, I much prefer the mac for my desktop platform, but for the mobile device, I prefer android. I might consider going back to IOS if Apple ever lifts any of their restrictions, but that's not likely to happen. On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, this is how I see it. Apple is just, well, Apple. They feel that iOS shouldn't be a computer operating system. After all, your phone, usually isn't your computer. The mac has a file manager and everything else, as you know, and can be added to with any software you want. Android is android though, and better for people that want full access. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations, identifying things with the camera, and listening to books. Original message: Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not nearly as accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not continue
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Interesting, where did you hear that? There's also rumors that Apple may allow other keyboards, but nothing confirmed. Original message: Hello: Just to let know that in this release of iOS 7, Apple has opened the TTS API, so developers can use it to make their Apps speak with system voices or use a single TTS engine for many Apps, and not as it was before. Take care! Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 25/06/2013, a las 16:19, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net escribió: Exactly. You may have 3 or 4 copies of the same TTS engine on your device, because each application must provide their own TTS and Apple does not allow you to install other voices and use them system wise. They also do not allow developers to use the voices that are already built in. Those restrictions are just silly. Original message: Now with the keyboards and voices I agree. I hate that voice dream has to provide voices that read2go already has, and that seroprok can't be on iOS, and that eSpeak can't be ported to iOS. But I heard they're opening up a lot of API's for iOS7, so yeah, maybe speech and keyboard is among them. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: I don't want Apple to be google, and I do not want IOS to be android. But what I would like is for IOS to provide the features that in most other operating systems, desktop and mobile. I honestly cannot think of any other operating system that did not allow you to manage files. Windows provides this, so does the Mac, linux, and even Symbian and Windows Mobile 6 provided this functionality. Why IOS does not provide or even really allow this easily I will never understand. Also the issues of not allowing you to install other keyboards, this doesn't really apply to most desktop operating systems, but the voices restriction does. With just about every other operating system, you can install other voices and use them system wide, each application is not required to include its own voice, again, there is simply no logical reason for that. On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: I somewhat agree with you, but I just don't want Apple to be Google. I love apple's commitment to accessibility better. LOL as we all surely do. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd have to agree with both of you, I love mac for my desktop platform, but I like my android tablet because it's more versatile. I wish apple would make iOs more versatile, like mac, I'm probably one of a few that would like iOs to act like mac os. I thin if the device is mine, I should be able to install whatever app I want on it. Courtney Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Yep, I would say you hit the mark exactly. I'm actually probably a rare breed, I much prefer the mac for my desktop platform, but for the mobile device, I prefer android. I might consider going back to IOS if Apple ever lifts any of their restrictions, but that's not likely to happen. On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, this is how I see it. Apple is just, well, Apple. They feel that iOS shouldn't be a computer operating system. After all, your phone, usually isn't your computer. The mac has a file manager and everything else, as you know, and can be added to with any software you want. Android is android though, and better for people that want full access. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations, identifying things with the camera, and listening to books. Original message: Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not nearly as accessible. Sent from
Re: Article: Apple loses its shine
An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not continue it. Original message: A couple of people have been asking about IOS 7 and related topics so thought perhaps this article may shed some light. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-loses-its-shine-20130620-2ojs0.html ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Article: Apple loses its shine
That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations, identifying things with the camera, and listening to books. Original message: Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not nearly as accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not continue it. Original message: A couple of people have been asking about IOS 7 and related topics so thought perhaps this article may shed some light. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-loses-its-shine-20130620-2ojs0.html ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find
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Yep, I would say you hit the mark exactly. I'm actually probably a rare breed, I much prefer the mac for my desktop platform, but for the mobile device, I prefer android. I might consider going back to IOS if Apple ever lifts any of their restrictions, but that's not likely to happen. On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, this is how I see it. Apple is just, well, Apple. They feel that iOS shouldn't be a computer operating system. After all, your phone, usually isn't your computer. The mac has a file manager and everything else, as you know, and can be added to with any software you want. Android is android though, and better for people that want full access. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations, identifying things with the camera, and listening to books. Original message: Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not nearly as accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not continue it. Original message: A couple of people have been asking about IOS 7 and related topics so thought perhaps this article may shed some light. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-loses-its-shine-20130620-2ojs0.html ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac
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I don't want Apple to be google, and I do not want IOS to be android. But what I would like is for IOS to provide the features that in most other operating systems, desktop and mobile. I honestly cannot think of any other operating system that did not allow you to manage files. Windows provides this, so does the Mac, linux, and even Symbian and Windows Mobile 6 provided this functionality. Why IOS does not provide or even really allow this easily I will never understand. Also the issues of not allowing you to install other keyboards, this doesn't really apply to most desktop operating systems, but the voices restriction does. With just about every other operating system, you can install other voices and use them system wide, each application is not required to include its own voice, again, there is simply no logical reason for that. On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: I somewhat agree with you, but I just don't want Apple to be Google. I love apple's commitment to accessibility better. LOL as we all surely do. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd have to agree with both of you, I love mac for my desktop platform, but I like my android tablet because it's more versatile. I wish apple would make iOs more versatile, like mac, I'm probably one of a few that would like iOs to act like mac os. I thin if the device is mine, I should be able to install whatever app I want on it. Courtney Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Yep, I would say you hit the mark exactly. I'm actually probably a rare breed, I much prefer the mac for my desktop platform, but for the mobile device, I prefer android. I might consider going back to IOS if Apple ever lifts any of their restrictions, but that's not likely to happen. On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, this is how I see it. Apple is just, well, Apple. They feel that iOS shouldn't be a computer operating system. After all, your phone, usually isn't your computer. The mac has a file manager and everything else, as you know, and can be added to with any software you want. Android is android though, and better for people that want full access. sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. Devin prater email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Skype: devinprater msn: devinpra...@live.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations, identifying things with the camera, and listening to books. Original message: Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not nearly as accessible. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not continue it. Original message: A couple of people have been asking about IOS 7 and related topics so thought perhaps this article may shed some light. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-loses-its-shine-20130620-2ojs0.html ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS
Re: using google chrome
Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read. Original message: hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need the add on, chrome box? thanks to all, Will --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
Wonder if they are working on accessibility for other platforms as well, in particular android. I hope so. Original message: As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for menu. It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu. I now think that the app is very good. The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app. David Griffith -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04 To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS. Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover. I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for celebration. It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a 2 finger upwards swipe. In this sense it resembles ibooks. The fact that Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major advance. In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of exiting the book reading window within the App. A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you can download your books. It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home Screen. b It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems merited. If anybody else finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post. David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
Most likely, at least for purchasing the books, you will have to go to the site. Apple's policy is, if you want to sell something within your application, you have to go through our system so we get our 30 percent of the purchase. If you decide you don't want to do that, you cannot provide a way to direct users to another place to make in app purchases within the app itself. Original message: Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download the books from the app itself? and, if you do have to go to the store on the amazon site, will your books show up in the app? thanks, Cait On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock Holmes etc. Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky) Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS. Hello all great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid reader anyway. Cheers! On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote: As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for menu. It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu. I now think that the app is very good. The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app. David Griffith -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04 To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS. Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover. I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for celebration. It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a 2 finger upwards swipe. In this sense it resembles ibooks. The fact that Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major advance. In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of exiting the book reading window within the App. A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you can download your books. It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home Screen. b It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems merited. If anybody else finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post. David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free.
Re: tessa compact?
The HQ voices are much higher quality, there's no reason to mess with compact voices on the mac. On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:01 AM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: hi all can i get the compact version of tessa as i can on the iPhone and iPad, for mac osx? i only see the hq version --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Is there an accessible kindle app for the mac?
Unfortunately the kindle app is not accessible on the mac, or any other platform besides the limited accessibility provided by the plug in for the kindle program in windows. It's obvious Amazon has no interest in making their books accessible. Original message: I have been on the applevis site and seen that the kindle is not accessible. I was just hoping that things had changed since that was written. I downloaded one from amazon and voice over doesn't read anything at all. Thank you, Trevor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New hard; drive what do I do?
Press command comma to open finder preferences, check the option to show the hard drive on your desktop. There are a few ways you can restore from a backup, you could just copy the files to the appropriate place, alternatively, you might give the migration assistant a try, it should be able to transfer your files from a backup. On Dec 12, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: My hard drive failed in my Mac Mini. I got it back today with a new hard drive, but I have a couple of questions. The first is that when I go to the desktop, I can't see the new hard drive. It usually says Macintosh HD, but I can't see anything except my external hard drive. What can I do to be able to see it? I have a backup from before the old hard drive failed. I would like to restore some of this data to the new hard drive. I have never done this before. Can someone tell me how you restore data from a back up? I can't figure it out. Thank you very much in advance. Kristeen Hughes Skype: lostonsylvane --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: labeling graphics
Yes, I believe the command is control option slash. While you can do this, you should also contact the developer of the application that has the graphics in question, this responsibility is really the developers' to do, not ours. Original message: Hi list: I was wondering if there was a way to label graphics on or using my macbook pro? Any help would be appreciated. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: applications key windows with vmware
Try holding the shift key and pressing F10 Original message: hi, does anyone know how to bring up context menus in vmware with the apple bluetooth keyboard? or do i have to use the apple extended keyboard to do it? amy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Has anyone found the need to consistently restart VoiceOver when loading webpages?
I have not updated to mountain lion yet one of my mac minis will not run it, but the other mini and macbook will, just a matter of finding time to do it. Anyway, with 10.7.5 and the newest safari, there are times when voiceover gets stuck in it's busy, busy loop and I do need to turn voiceover off and back on to access the page. Another thing that happens at times, and it seems kind of random is, a page will load, I will either search for something on the page or try to navigate to something such as a heading, voiceover will act like the search text was not found and will say next heading not found. If I press command+r to reload the page it works fine. I have found that using google chrome instead of safari eliminates some of this, especially the busy messages. On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: This happens on my i7 MBA all the time. It was SOP under Lion and seems to be a bit worse in ML with safari 6 and webkit nightlies. I'll load up a webpage, bring up the web rotor, and will either have no elements listed or just a few items, usually in the links section. If I cycle VO, the elements become available. I've often wondered if it's related to internet connection speed and/or mac hardware specs, but I've not spent much time troubleshooting beyond the standard cache flushes, etc. I'm thinking I'll wipe this drive at some point and start with a fresh build of ML to see if that takes care of this and several other nagging issues. Cheers, Bryan On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:44 AM, JAMES AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net wrote: When clicking on links, has anyone else noticed the seemingly constant need to restart VoiceOver under Safari 6x? It's as if even though the page loads, VoiceOver does not register it. Restarting VoiceOver seems to remedy this. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Has anyone found the need to consistently restart VoiceOver when loading webpages?
Having an odd issue with chromevox at the moment, it doesn't speak if voiceover is turned on, the 2 used to work ok together. Chrome doesn't have the busy problem but it does have some odd quirks. Voiceover is unable to read certain list boxes, and if you come across some unlabeled links, voiceover does not read the url of the link so you have no idea what it is, in safari it provides this information. Over all though, chrome works pretty well. On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Interestingly, the busy, busy, busy annoyance in Safari went away when I upgraded to ML. The trade-off was that Bento has now taken over the busy, busy, busy behavior. Regarding Chrome: I've been using it with ChromeVox a lot lately as one of my classes is neck-deep into Google Docs and I've found Chrome to offer the best GDocs experience. On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: I have not updated to mountain lion yet one of my mac minis will not run it, but the other mini and macbook will, just a matter of finding time to do it. Anyway, with 10.7.5 and the newest safari, there are times when voiceover gets stuck in it's busy, busy loop and I do need to turn voiceover off and back on to access the page. Another thing that happens at times, and it seems kind of random is, a page will load, I will either search for something on the page or try to navigate to something such as a heading, voiceover will act like the search text was not found and will say next heading not found. If I press command+r to reload the page it works fine. I have found that using google chrome instead of safari eliminates some of this, especially the busy messages. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype
I think microsoft is trying to consolidate things a bit. To have both services would be redundant. Original message: No, sorry. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I did not mean that I won't, but I meant for others that might not want to. Not necessarily here, but in general. As for Skype, I use it all the time and love it! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Possibly, but why would you not want to use skype, it's accessible. On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:34 PM, Josh Gregory wrote: This will certainly be nice for some, but what about those that don't want to use Skype? Are they just left in the dark? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Ok, I've installed the newest version of skype. And yes, if you sign out of your skype account it will provide an option to sign in with your windows live messenger account and to merge the 2 together. Once you do this, you will use your windows live messenger user name and password to sign in to skype, and the messenger contacts do show up along with your skype contacts as well as an indication as to whether it's a messenger or skype contact. Realy nice actually no need to use a separate messenger app anymore, I like the change. On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:47 PM, william lomas wrote: so this will mean no more adium usage? Begin forwarded message: From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com Subject: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype Date: 6 November 2012 22:27:01 GMT To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net Reply-To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net This will be the end of an era for some of us. The article is pasted below. The source is unknown. *Microsoft to close Messenger and consolidate IM service on Skype** **By Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service** ** **Nov 6, 2012 12:45 PM** **Microsoft will shut down Windows Live Messenger next year, compelling users to migrate to Skype, whose latest version can import users' Messenger contacts.** ** **With the exception of mainland China, Windows Live Messenger will close in the first quarter of 2013, and its users should install the latest version of Skype, Microsoft said on Tuesday.** ** **Users can sign into the Skype service with the credentials they use to access their Microsoft online services, including Windows Live Messenger. They will find their Windows Live Messenger contacts on their Skype contacts list. If they used both Windows Live Messenger and Skype, the contacts lists will be merged.** ** **We want to focus our efforts on making things simpler for our users while continuously improving the overall experience, wrote Tony Bates, Skype's president, in a blog post.** ** **To encourage Windows Live Messenger users to update to Skype, Bates touted several benefits they'll get from Skype, including support for more devices such as iPad and Android tablets, screen sharing, the ability to place calls to landline phones, and group video conferencing.** ** **However, this type of migration is rarely seamless, and users are already raising questions in comments to Bates' blog post, including the availability of certain Windows Live Messenger features and the capacity of the Skype infrastructure to sustain the new workload.** ** **Microsoft, which acquired Skype in October 2011 for $8.5 billion, will provide more information about the transition, as well as introduce special offers for fee-based Skype services, in the coming months, Bates wrote.** * -- Christopher Hallsworth === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update
Re: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype
Skype on the mac is accessible, in some ways it would make things simpler if this is true. On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:47 PM, william lomas wrote: so this will mean no more adium usage? Begin forwarded message: From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com Subject: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype Date: 6 November 2012 22:27:01 GMT To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net Reply-To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net This will be the end of an era for some of us. The article is pasted below. The source is unknown. *Microsoft to close Messenger and consolidate IM service on Skype** **By Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service** ** **Nov 6, 2012 12:45 PM** **Microsoft will shut down Windows Live Messenger next year, compelling users to migrate to Skype, whose latest version can import users' Messenger contacts.** ** **With the exception of mainland China, Windows Live Messenger will close in the first quarter of 2013, and its users should install the latest version of Skype, Microsoft said on Tuesday.** ** **Users can sign into the Skype service with the credentials they use to access their Microsoft online services, including Windows Live Messenger. They will find their Windows Live Messenger contacts on their Skype contacts list. If they used both Windows Live Messenger and Skype, the contacts lists will be merged.** ** **We want to focus our efforts on making things simpler for our users while continuously improving the overall experience, wrote Tony Bates, Skype's president, in a blog post.** ** **To encourage Windows Live Messenger users to update to Skype, Bates touted several benefits they'll get from Skype, including support for more devices such as iPad and Android tablets, screen sharing, the ability to place calls to landline phones, and group video conferencing.** ** **However, this type of migration is rarely seamless, and users are already raising questions in comments to Bates' blog post, including the availability of certain Windows Live Messenger features and the capacity of the Skype infrastructure to sustain the new workload.** ** **Microsoft, which acquired Skype in October 2011 for $8.5 billion, will provide more information about the transition, as well as introduce special offers for fee-based Skype services, in the coming months, Bates wrote.** * -- Christopher Hallsworth === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype
Ok, I've installed the newest version of skype. And yes, if you sign out of your skype account it will provide an option to sign in with your windows live messenger account and to merge the 2 together. Once you do this, you will use your windows live messenger user name and password to sign in to skype, and the messenger contacts do show up along with your skype contacts as well as an indication as to whether it's a messenger or skype contact. Realy nice actually no need to use a separate messenger app anymore, I like the change. On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:47 PM, william lomas wrote: so this will mean no more adium usage? Begin forwarded message: From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com Subject: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype Date: 6 November 2012 22:27:01 GMT To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net Reply-To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net This will be the end of an era for some of us. The article is pasted below. The source is unknown. *Microsoft to close Messenger and consolidate IM service on Skype** **By Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service** ** **Nov 6, 2012 12:45 PM** **Microsoft will shut down Windows Live Messenger next year, compelling users to migrate to Skype, whose latest version can import users' Messenger contacts.** ** **With the exception of mainland China, Windows Live Messenger will close in the first quarter of 2013, and its users should install the latest version of Skype, Microsoft said on Tuesday.** ** **Users can sign into the Skype service with the credentials they use to access their Microsoft online services, including Windows Live Messenger. They will find their Windows Live Messenger contacts on their Skype contacts list. If they used both Windows Live Messenger and Skype, the contacts lists will be merged.** ** **We want to focus our efforts on making things simpler for our users while continuously improving the overall experience, wrote Tony Bates, Skype's president, in a blog post.** ** **To encourage Windows Live Messenger users to update to Skype, Bates touted several benefits they'll get from Skype, including support for more devices such as iPad and Android tablets, screen sharing, the ability to place calls to landline phones, and group video conferencing.** ** **However, this type of migration is rarely seamless, and users are already raising questions in comments to Bates' blog post, including the availability of certain Windows Live Messenger features and the capacity of the Skype infrastructure to sustain the new workload.** ** **Microsoft, which acquired Skype in October 2011 for $8.5 billion, will provide more information about the transition, as well as introduce special offers for fee-based Skype services, in the coming months, Bates wrote.** * -- Christopher Hallsworth === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan,
Re: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype
Possibly, but why would you not want to use skype, it's accessible. On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:34 PM, Josh Gregory wrote: This will certainly be nice for some, but what about those that don't want to use Skype? Are they just left in the dark? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Ok, I've installed the newest version of skype. And yes, if you sign out of your skype account it will provide an option to sign in with your windows live messenger account and to merge the 2 together. Once you do this, you will use your windows live messenger user name and password to sign in to skype, and the messenger contacts do show up along with your skype contacts as well as an indication as to whether it's a messenger or skype contact. Realy nice actually no need to use a separate messenger app anymore, I like the change. On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:47 PM, william lomas wrote: so this will mean no more adium usage? Begin forwarded message: From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com Subject: Microsoft to Close Messenger and consolidate Im Services on Skype Date: 6 November 2012 22:27:01 GMT To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net Reply-To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-c...@techno-chat.net This will be the end of an era for some of us. The article is pasted below. The source is unknown. *Microsoft to close Messenger and consolidate IM service on Skype** **By Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service** ** **Nov 6, 2012 12:45 PM** **Microsoft will shut down Windows Live Messenger next year, compelling users to migrate to Skype, whose latest version can import users' Messenger contacts.** ** **With the exception of mainland China, Windows Live Messenger will close in the first quarter of 2013, and its users should install the latest version of Skype, Microsoft said on Tuesday.** ** **Users can sign into the Skype service with the credentials they use to access their Microsoft online services, including Windows Live Messenger. They will find their Windows Live Messenger contacts on their Skype contacts list. If they used both Windows Live Messenger and Skype, the contacts lists will be merged.** ** **We want to focus our efforts on making things simpler for our users while continuously improving the overall experience, wrote Tony Bates, Skype's president, in a blog post.** ** **To encourage Windows Live Messenger users to update to Skype, Bates touted several benefits they'll get from Skype, including support for more devices such as iPad and Android tablets, screen sharing, the ability to place calls to landline phones, and group video conferencing.** ** **However, this type of migration is rarely seamless, and users are already raising questions in comments to Bates' blog post, including the availability of certain Windows Live Messenger features and the capacity of the Skype infrastructure to sustain the new workload.** ** **Microsoft, which acquired Skype in October 2011 for $8.5 billion, will provide more information about the transition, as well as introduce special offers for fee-based Skype services, in the coming months, Bates wrote.** * -- Christopher Hallsworth === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either
Re: A More Accessible Skype interface.
For me at least, the regular skype works fine, I can read my contacts, answer calls, and read and respond to chat messages without problems. Original message: Hi Folks: I don't suppose that there are any programmers on this list who have thought about creating a more accessible Skype access program such as GWConnect in the Windows environment? Thanks all over the place. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
the muder application
Hey everyone, was trying to get the muder application on the mac to work for a friend of mine. I know others on this list have said it's useable. What exactly did you do to make it work? When navigating around the application, voiceover just says unknown, unknown, which indicates the application is using nonstandard controls. There is nothing in the menus to change this, and no options to enable a self voicing feature. For those who have gotten this application to work, what exactly did you do to enable access? Is it supposed to work with voiceover or provide its own speech? We need step by step here, not just to say that the app works fine and is accessible. Thanks for any info you can provide. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the muder application
Yes, she got it from the mac app store, though I'm beginning to wonder if there is more than one app with that name, I've been using voiceover on the mac for over 4 years, if there were any labeled buttons in this app, I would have found them. This had the typical zoom, minimize and close buttons, and then 3 controls that said unknown. Also, there was nopreferences window, only a preferences menu where you could enable or disable different things such as the status bar. On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Orin wrote: Did you get it from the Mac app store? The version you get from the app store doesn't have any unknowns. In fact, the button labels are actually too verbose in my opinion. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Hey everyone, was trying to get the muder application on the mac to work for a friend of mine. I know others on this list have said it's useable. What exactly did you do to make it work? When navigating around the application, voiceover just says unknown, unknown, which indicates the application is using nonstandard controls. There is nothing in the menus to change this, and no options to enable a self voicing feature. For those who have gotten this application to work, what exactly did you do to enable access? Is it supposed to work with voiceover or provide its own speech? We need step by step here, not just to say that the app works fine and is accessible. Thanks for any info you can provide. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: an accessible fan and tempriture monitoring app.
For fan cntrol, check out smc fan control. I think there is an app called temperature monitor, doing a google search should find it. On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Gang: The subject line says it all: is there such an animal out there? Thanks all over the place gang. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Yes, the numpad does make things easier, and on the laptops, you can use the trackpad commander which also makes navigating much easier. On Sep 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: I've also had it said to me that if you can get hold of a numpad, bluetooth or otherwise, you can make full use of numpad commander and it makes the navigating experience just that much better. I personally had no issue with learning to use the mac. I learned to drive on around two years ago, as a friend of mine had one. ever since then, I could wander into a store, turn voiceover on and have a play. Now I have one, I've not looked back. On 30/09/2012, at 12:45 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Here, Here. Well said. I've just migrated to mac and I'm quite surprised with how accessible it really is. I have virtually no site, and I'm learning to get around it quite well. I particularly love the way that you can use the Item chooser to navigate around a page rather than tab around a hole screen in other systems to find what you want. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 3:39 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Hello John, Will and all As somebody with vision looking in, so to speak, I frequently find it astonishing when I hear people criticising what Apple is doing with accessibility; particularly in view of the practicalities. For instance, unless you're a pirate and by definition, therefore, a thief, Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and Dolphin Access, to name but three vendors, charge a very great deal of money for their accessibility tools. Also, Microsoft charges for their operating system, even for the most basic version, over 5 times what Apple does. VoiceOver is a free and, most of the time, very reliable product. It gives the user access to a WYSIWYG, (what you see is what you get) interface to websites. Most of which can, if you take the time to learn to use it, be navigated extremely well using VoiceOver and Safari. Ultimately, it really depends upon the individual. If you just want a sheet of virtual paper with a hand-holding web environment, by all means use your other products and I wish you the very best of luck in all you do. I, (and I count my lucky stars, believe me), have the advantage of vision and I have seen both sides of this. I do see some sites where VoiceOver just will not play nicely and yes, we have seen some pretty spectacular crashes at times. However, in the general scheme of things, the environment is more stable and just as, if not more, reliable than the competition if, and it is a very big if, the pilot of the machine takes the time and effort to learn to handle it. I sincerely hope that we see a time when Apple perfects their accessibility tools. But make no mistake about it; they are committed to accessibility and they will improve their offerings. Remember also that the competing products have been available far far longer than has VoiceOver. Yes, I know that you can't always go by that and I know also that Apple has been involved in the field of accessibility for around 8 years now. However, just cast your mind back to how things were before Apple entered the market. Apple really has made a difference, not only to their own products, but also the competition. I recall the vice president of one accessibility company saying: It's all very well having an operating system with a talking installer. But that's not much use if you can't do anything with it afterwards. That statement was a direct quote. It was, and remains, the utterings of a frightened man who feared losing custom. As things have worked out, that is exactly what has happened. Literally tens of thousands of visually impaired users across the world have now migrated to Apple's products; desktop and mobile. Indeed, the vice president of Freedom Scientific himself is the proud owner of an iPhone. Make of that what you will! Anyway, I am ranting. But I sometimes find it really disappointing when I hear people complaining like this. People who have freedom to choose. The long and the short of this is: If you want perfection, you'll be waiting for a very very long time. If you are prepared to be flexible and innovative, you have the power at your fingertips, quite literally in some cases. If, however, you are happy with constant virtualisation, hand-holding and costly solutions, then perhaps Apple's platforms are not for you. yes, there are free and low-cost applications available out there for other operating systems. And that is to be applauded. However, you are still working within the confines of an often insecure, vulnerable and unstable environment.
Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I love the mac, I no longer have a pc here, voiceover does things somewhat differently than the windows screen readers, but once you get usd to that, it works just as well as the windows screen readers and in many ways, it works better. On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Debbie April Yuille wrote: Here, Here. Well said. I've just migrated to mac and I'm quite surprised with how accessible it really is. I have virtually no site, and I'm learning to get around it quite well. I particularly love the way that you can use the Item chooser to navigate around a page rather than tab around a hole screen in other systems to find what you want. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 3:39 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Hello John, Will and all As somebody with vision looking in, so to speak, I frequently find it astonishing when I hear people criticising what Apple is doing with accessibility; particularly in view of the practicalities. For instance, unless you're a pirate and by definition, therefore, a thief, Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and Dolphin Access, to name but three vendors, charge a very great deal of money for their accessibility tools. Also, Microsoft charges for their operating system, even for the most basic version, over 5 times what Apple does. VoiceOver is a free and, most of the time, very reliable product. It gives the user access to a WYSIWYG, (what you see is what you get) interface to websites. Most of which can, if you take the time to learn to use it, be navigated extremely well using VoiceOver and Safari. Ultimately, it really depends upon the individual. If you just want a sheet of virtual paper with a hand-holding web environment, by all means use your other products and I wish you the very best of luck in all you do. I, (and I count my lucky stars, believe me), have the advantage of vision and I have seen both sides of this. I do see some sites where VoiceOver just will not play nicely and yes, we have seen some pretty spectacular crashes at times. However, in the general scheme of things, the environment is more stable and just as, if not more, reliable than the competition if, and it is a very big if, the pilot of the machine takes the time and effort to learn to handle it. I sincerely hope that we see a time when Apple perfects their accessibility tools. But make no mistake about it; they are committed to accessibility and they will improve their offerings. Remember also that the competing products have been available far far longer than has VoiceOver. Yes, I know that you can't always go by that and I know also that Apple has been involved in the field of accessibility for around 8 years now. However, just cast your mind back to how things were before Apple entered the market. Apple really has made a difference, not only to their own products, but also the competition. I recall the vice president of one accessibility company saying: It's all very well having an operating system with a talking installer. But that's not much use if you can't do anything with it afterwards. That statement was a direct quote. It was, and remains, the utterings of a frightened man who feared losing custom. As things have worked out, that is exactly what has happened. Literally tens of thousands of visually impaired users across the world have now migrated to Apple's products; desktop and mobile. Indeed, the vice president of Freedom Scientific himself is the proud owner of an iPhone. Make of that what you will! Anyway, I am ranting. But I sometimes find it really disappointing when I hear people complaining like this. People who have freedom to choose. The long and the short of this is: If you want perfection, you'll be waiting for a very very long time. If you are prepared to be flexible and innovative, you have the power at your fingertips, quite literally in some cases. If, however, you are happy with constant virtualisation, hand-holding and costly solutions, then perhaps Apple's platforms are not for you. yes, there are free and low-cost applications available out there for other operating systems. And that is to be applauded. However, you are still working within the confines of an often insecure, vulnerable and unstable environment. Which ever option you choose to take is entirely down to your preference. However, although I can understand a degree of frustration when things don't quite work out; and yes, it does happen to my other half as well quite frequently, the best thing you could do is to make the most of the failures. Try to reliably replicate them and, if possible, send your crash reports to Apple. That is the only way your problems will be
Re: Find next control
No need to set anything up, it's already done. Control option command j and control option shift command j moves to next and previous respectively. Original message: Hello, Is there any way to set up a VoiceOver hotkey which would read the next/prior control on a web page? I want this to read the next edit box or the next button or the next check box or the next radio button. The WindowEyes screen reader on that other OS had this function which I found very useful particularly for doing web searches or entering data in a web page. I see that Safari has the idea of web spots and land marks but I am not clear what these are and whether they relate in any way to controls. I could use the keyboard commander to define hotkeys for next/prior text field, next/prior button, next/prior check box and so on but that is a lot of hotkeys to remember. A more general find next/prior control would be easier to remember and almost as useful. Best regards Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Considering Mac, questions about Voiceover/access
I do most of my web browsing on the mac. It is different than windows, you generally move item by item, the mac does things differently than windows, and keeping this in mind should make things easier. Original message: I have recently switched from Windows to Mac - JAWS12 to VoiceOver. Word Processing - very disappointing as I use Tables extensively. Pages is slow loading and getting into editing quite tiresome. I am finding it difficult to get used to interacting with this and that. I still find web browsing rather finicky as you have to use a number of ways to access it: turning NavKeys on/off; using the ItemUser and the inability to cursoring vertically rather irksome. For scanning purposes I use the ReadIt wand (which works very well) but, funnily enough, for this I have to use VM to virtualise the Windows platform! I have not yet used Numbers (for spreadsheet work) : so cannot comment. On the positive side: this list is a good place to be as people are very helpful in their informed responses. Good luck!! On 15 Aug 2012, at 09:48, Catherine Turner wrote: Hi all, I don't have a Mac at the moment but am considering getting one and have some questions about Voiceover and general Mac access which I wonder if people could help me with? 1. With word processing, is VO able to give font/formatting information? 2. I use spreadsheets a fair bit and databases a little. I currently use Excel with JAWS and quite often monitor certain cells so I can at a keystroke find out what's in them. Does anyone here do anything similar on Mac? How configurable is VO when working in spreadsheets e.g. is there a keystroke for reading a column total and can you set which row the total is in either in VO or the spreadsheet program? 3. Scanning/OCR - what are people using for this? How do you find it and what sort of things do you scan? 4. Sound editing and MIDI - I do a fair bit of sound editing in wave format, currently in Goldwave. I haven't started doing any MIDI yet but hope to in the future. So I don't know much about the MIDI but am just wondering if anyone is doing any Mac and what you use, how you're finding it. If anyone has any comments/feedback on the above questions that'd be great. Or if anyone here has switched from Windows to Mac and has any other observations I'd be interested in hearing them. Thanks, Catherine --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Any progress?
There was nothing mentioned about these in mountain lion, personally I don't see what else could really be done, navigation works fine on the web. On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Christo Thiardt wrote: Hello thanks to Gordon for answering my question regarding changing to Mountain Lion. Is there improvement in navigating web pages especially vertical cursoring? Any improvement in accessibility of tables? Many thanks in anticipation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Adobe suspends work on accessible Flash Player for the Mac.
Adobe is also moving away from flash on android and other mobile platforms, hopefully web developers will get rid of flash and move to html 5, that's the real solution here. On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Folks, I guess this comes as no surprise, but it seems the folks at Adobe have decided not to make FLash Player accessible on the Mac after all. Adobe made a big deal back in March of 2010 when they announced their intention to make Flash Player accessible on Mac, Linux Windows. The promise has gone unfulfilled on the Mac and this evening an Adobe representative posted the following as part of a reply to a blog comment: Begin quote from Adobe representative As far as the accessible version of the Flash Player for the Mac, we announced at CSUN about a change in focus for the Flash Player – the Flash Player focus is on casual gaming and video – and the current guidance is to use native controls rather than embedding them within the Flash Player. As a result, the plan to deliver a Flash Player for the Mac with accessibility support was suspended. End quote from Adobe representative I guess the silver lining here is the fact that Adobe mentions native controls which I hope means something potentially more accessible. Link to the full blog post, which is not specifically addressing Flash Player. The quote comes from the comments section. http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2012/06/ruling-on-accessibility-and-the-ada.html#comments Link to Adobe's March 2010 post announcig the good news about forthcoming Flash accessibility: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: control characters in terminal
I believe the contrl character does need to be there, yes On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hello, Control d in terminal is the same as control z within windows. Control Z within terminal or technically bash is suspend a process. In relation to your query, it depends on the app you are using. Do you want the control char to be present in a bash script? Sean --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
control characters in terminal
Hey everyone, for the first time I actually have a need to use terminal to flash a new rom on my android phone. In order to do this without sight, I am creating a shell script, having one issue. To end the script, you press control+d. This seems to do something different in windows command prompt than in the mac terminal. In windows, it looks like it produces a carrot, that's a shifted 6 ad a capital D, however on the mac it seems to do something different, and typing the carror and a capital D manually also does not work. Does anyone know how to generate control characters in terminal? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple MacBook Air SuperDrive MacBook Pro Don't Get Along Together!
I remember reading somewhere on the apple site that the super drive only works on certain computers, namely, the mini and macbook air, it does not work on others. Doesn't make much sense, but apple does not always make sense with the choices they make. On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:26 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello everybody Just a quick question. I have a MacBook Pro 13' and a MacBook Air Superdrive. I cannot get the MacBook Pro to see the external superdrive at all, no matter what I do. In fact it doesn't even appear to be powering up. Is this expected behaviour? The superdrive isn't faulty because if I plug it into a mac Mini Server, it works fine. Could this be a firmware issue and, if so, is there a way around it? I wanted to copy some disks but didn't want to use just the internal drive because the process is painfully slow. Thank you. in advance for any information. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple to reject Mac App Store apps using hotkeys starting June 1?
I actually wonder if this is a hoax, it simply makes no sense whatsoever for Apple to do something like this. On May 17, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Not a very good move on apple's part. I suggest we write to accesibil...@apple.com. i just did myself just a few minutes ago. http://goo.gl/fb/n5ywZ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
screen reader survey
Hey everyone, there is a new screen reader survey available, I would suggest everyone take the survey to give voiceover as many useage stats as possible, here is the link. http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: copying music from a external NTFS drive to a Mac mini
Just connect the drive, the mac will have no problems readng an ntfs drive, it just will not be able to write to it. If you're going to be sharing a drive between the mac and windows, best thing to do is format it as fat32, this works for both platforms. On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Diane Bomar wrote: I have an external 1tb drive, that I have always used with my Pc, so it is formatted in NTFS. It contains about 400GB of music, which I would like to copy to my Mac Mini. How can I accomplish this? I do not have Windows simulation on my Mac mini. All of the music is not in my iTunes library. Thanks, Diane --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Browser choices
I use chrome at times, I think it's faster than safari though there are still a few issues with it with voiceover, apparently firefox access is also in the works. On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: Do any of you use a browser other than Safari? If so, do you prefer the browser you chose over Safari and what is that browser? Kriateen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: My PC died
Yes, the current minis no longer have this, I think apple removed it too soon, should have waited another year or 2 On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: If I'm remembering correctly, the minis that are out there now do not have a cd/dvd drive. Is this true? I bought my mimi a little over a year ago and so it has one. I'm thinking about iMacs. Do any of you have one? Kristeen On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: My PC died
You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Setting up the Mac mini
There was an adapter for the 2008 minis that would allow you to connect a mini to a television, it does not work with new mac minis though, as far as I know, the only way to get the new minis to work properly is to connect a monitor, it doesn't need to be turned on, just connected. On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:54 AM, trevor wrote: Hello, I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. My question is; Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. Thanks, Trevor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mophie juice pack air
I have the iphone 3 g s version, it's great, I'm sure the iphone 4 version is awesome as well. Original message: hi has anyone used the mophie juice pack air for an iPhone 4? is it any good? how do we know how much battery is left in the case i guess it uses its own battery then the iPhone battery itself? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iTether
It's a shame that this app was pulled, if someone is already paying for data, to charge extra for tethering is ridiculous. This is one thing I don't like about IOS, apple has decided they don't want users to get this app anymore, so they pull it from the store. This is one reason why I like android, not near as restrictive, and you can also side load apps. On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Apple has said, I've been able to confirm on Mac and Windows with iPhone app, that iTether will continue to work. This app is extremely useful, great, and I'm glad that I got it when it was available. ATT 3G data speeds are quite fast and great. Kevin On 11/29/11, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com wrote: That would be the Apple CEO now! Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:52 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iTether It's a great shame this is happening. as an IT Tech, there's times I'd like to tether my iphone to the mac as a quick modem where internet access isn't available, especially when getting hold of drivers or emergency files, etc. I don't want to be in the position of paying stupid money for a 2nd setup. especially USB internet solutions where they are unreliable at best. someone give me a bow and arrow and point me in the direction of the fella who decided to kill this internet tethering solution. BAH HUMBUG! anywho, better things to do... tra la la. lew Free Macs For The Blind On 29 Nov 2011, at 18:45, Bubba wrote: Yep, that is what I found out as well. I also bet when the next IOS update come out it will be removed from your device as well. If not before if they can possible do it. JST Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:29 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iTether never mind. Here is the article that explains the situation. Ack! iTether was just yanked from the App Store. Hopefully you got in while the gettin' was good! http://engt.co/tlygvO On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'm considering getting it. lol! It would be cheaper then paying for a no contract wireless pay by month wireless card for my laptop lol! On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Bubba wrote: Yes, this is usually can only be done with a JB ! I will be willing to bet it is in the process of being pulled right now. Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:20 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iTether I think though tht it will be rejected and puled soon according to what I read on the apple news blog I follow. and some people were having trouble with it like it was saying Please register the next time they launched the app. Take care. On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:30 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: An extremely useful, very worthwhile, and fully accessible app and PC/Mac companion client accessible iTether is available in app store. I've been using iTether since last night, tweeted about it, and many others are using it, and we are all absolutely enjoying it. Anyone who has an unlimited 3G data plan will find this to be extremely useful. No need to pay smartphone carrier for a tethering plan, no need to jailbreak and use PDAnet, and iTether is all legal and approved via Apple iTunes App Store. Please have a look in app store for iTether, all the details, including how to get up and running are contained within description. Kevin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: mophie juice pack air
In general, it doubles the iphone's battery life. On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:44 PM, william lomas wrote: how long do you get out of it? On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: i use one with my Iphone 4 and one for my Ipod touch and I must say it's really good. There is a button to turn the device on and off. When you turn it on, you'll hear the charging sound on your iphone and when you check the battery status, it'll just say that the iphone is charging. The device comes with a mini USB cable used to charge both the Iphone and the juice pack. You no longer need to use the Iphone cable as the juice pac cable will charge up both devices at the same time. You can still sync your iphone using the juice pack cable as well so no worries there either. Hope this answers your question. Lyn, Canelle Epi On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:04 PM, william lomas wrote: hi has anyone used the mophie juice pack air for an iPhone 4? is it any good? how do we know how much battery is left in the case i guess it uses its own battery then the iPhone battery itself? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net msn: lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Maqc equivalent of the WIndows System Tray?
The closest thing is the status menus, this is what shows your volume, battery, etc. You get to it by pressing control F8 or in voiceover, press control option m twice. On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, Is there a Mac OS 10.7 facility similar to the Windows System Tray? On Windows you can move applications to the System Tray (aka Notification Area). If such a facility were available on Mac OS it would mean that the selected applications would not appear if you cycle round your windows using Command+Tab. Instead you would have to access that application from somewhere else like the dock. A good use of this would be to put growl in the Mac System Tray so that growl does not appear when you command+Tab around your windows. It would also be useful to hide WQuickeys in this way. Is there such a facility? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: new mac store requirements
Certainly developers can choose not to sell their apps through the app store, although some developers feel this is similar to committing business suicide, they think that the app store is the primary place where users go for apps, and that they will not look else where, whether this is true or not is a different story, after all, all mac apps were sold this way before the app store. I guess some developers feel they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. On Nov 19, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: I'm a little confused. Did apple ever state that apps *must* be sold through the appstore? Did apple say that apps you purchased were going to be disabled if you didn't purchase them again from the app store? I think folks are getting all worked up over nothing. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: navigon Europe 2.
Haven't tried version 2 of the United States version yet, but I have heard from several people that, voice over does not see the control to stop navigation. Sounds like this app has taken some steps backward with regard to accessibility. Original message: Hello Dónal, Some people seem to like the new Navigon, but I find it to be a complete disaster! I can get it to start navigation, but stopping navigation is almost impossible for a VO user. Also, it crashes when trying to do anything after starting navigation. I'm glad to say I saved the previous version just in case something like this should happen. Cheers, Anne On 18 Nov 2011, at 10:26, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi, If what I'm reading is true, updating to version 2 should be avoided. Apparently voiceover accessibility has gone backwards. Can anyone confirm? Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: navigon Europe 2.
My favorite GPS app on the iphone is motionx gps drive, with the exception of some unlabeled buttons, it's very useable. It's a shame Garmin's app does not provide spoken walking directions, because the app itself is very accessible. Original message: I tried the update for a couple of hours yesterday and had the same problems here with the Navigon North America version. My negative findings mirror those of DOnal and Anne. There are several critical elements in the UI that VO is denied access to, the whole system became very sluggish at times repeatedly becoming non-responsive with an in progress message, and getting out of navigation mode is messy. On the positive side, the new method of selecting individual states and provinces is accessible and it seems they've simplified the UI to eliminate some of the confusing steps previously required to get to certain bits of information. I haven't been a heavy Navigon User for several months, so this update doesn't effect me much but knowing that the app is very popular with the VI VO community, I can imagine Navigon will be hearing from many of us. -Bryan On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote Some people seem to like the new Navigon, but I find it to be a complete disaster! I can get it to start navigation, but stopping navigation is almost impossible for a VO user. Also, it crashes when trying to do anything after starting navigation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: navigon Europe 2.
The newest version of tomtom seems to work fine, I have the maps downloaded for Navigon, having problems activating some controls though, using ios 5 on an iphone 3gs, I will see if I can get a root created if I can somehow get around this issue. On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Anyone tried Tomtom? On 18 Nov 2011, at 17:47, Mike Arrigo wrote: My favorite GPS app on the iphone is motionx gps drive, with the exception of some unlabeled buttons, it's very useable. It's a shame Garmin's app does not provide spoken walking directions, because the app itself is very accessible. Original message: I tried the update for a couple of hours yesterday and had the same problems here with the Navigon North America version. My negative findings mirror those of DOnal and Anne. There are several critical elements in the UI that VO is denied access to, the whole system became very sluggish at times repeatedly becoming non-responsive with an in progress message, and getting out of navigation mode is messy. On the positive side, the new method of selecting individual states and provinces is accessible and it seems they've simplified the UI to eliminate some of the confusing steps previously required to get to certain bits of information. I haven't been a heavy Navigon User for several months, so this update doesn't effect me much but knowing that the app is very popular with the VI VO community, I can imagine Navigon will be hearing from many of us. -Bryan On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote Some people seem to like the new Navigon, but I find it to be a complete disaster! I can get it to start navigation, but stopping navigation is almost impossible for a VO user. Also, it crashes when trying to do anything after starting navigation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically
Re: navigon Europe 2.
This is the app I use the most on the iphone, actually my favorite navigation app out of all of them is google navigation on android, it's very easy to get a list of directions and read the distance to the next turn, I have yet to find an app on the iphone that works this well but motionx comes close. On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: I agree Mike, MotionX is the one I usually turn to for long distance travel. Unfortunately for folks outside of the US, I think the app is US only. For anybody interested in trying MotionX Drive, it comes with a 30 day free voice guidance trial and they currently have a year of voice guidance on sale for US $9.99. -Bryan On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: My favorite GPS app on the iphone is motionx gps drive, with the exception of some unlabeled buttons, it's very useable. It's a shame Garmin's app does not provide spoken walking directions, because the app itself is very accessible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: new mac store requirements
The only app I have purchased was the lion upgrade, I've gotten the other apps from the companies directly, even now, there are requirements that would prevent many apps from getting approved such as backup programs. With the sand box requirements, the next step could be that apple decides to only allow the installation of apps from their app store. Hopefully they will never do that, if they do, as much as I hate to do it, I will probably go back to windows. If I purchase a computer, it should be my decision what I install on it. On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Orin wrote: Audio Hijack Pro was never in the app store anyway. Won't have to worry about that as well as any of the audio apps. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, This is terrible, I wonder what this will mean for apps like Airfoil, Amadeus Pro, Audiobook builder, or most importantly, Audiohijack pro? I'm quite worried about this sandboxing issue. Any input and oppinions on what might happen with these apps especially are appreciated. Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iPad On 16 Nov 2011, at 01:57 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: Hey everyone, apple will soon be requiring applications to comply with very strict guide lines in order to be in teh app store, personally, I think this is being too restrictive, here are links to 2 different articles describing the changes. I think this will end up hurting apple in the end. http://lacquer.fi/pauli/blog/2011/11/why-the-mac-app-sandbox-makes-me-sad/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/11/apple-pushes-back-sandboxing-deadline-as-devs-struggle-with-tradeoffs.ars -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Differences Between Default VO and Compact
The default voice is higher quality, if that voice works for you, there's little reason to use the compact voice. Original message: Hi, Folks! On the iPhone 4, what's the difference between the default voice for VoiceOver and the Compact voice? Which is better and why? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Some concerns about Adium
there are a few ways to do this, in the adium preferences, if you go to the events tab, you can set each event to speak, including new messages. If you're using lion, make sure you are using Alex as your voice though or this will not work correctly. I think you can also use growl for this but I haven't tried it. On Nov 6, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: I've been told by people on this list that Adium is a good accessible with VO messenger client. Well guys, I guess I'm not using it right and I really need some help. Once I've seen a friend of mine is online and have pressed Enter on there's details and sent them a message, how do I know when they have replied and how do I read there message? Jonathan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Anyone got an opinion on compact voice and performance?
I'm using the better quality voice on my iphone 3gs, works fine, so that's what I will stick with. Both voices do get a bit choppy at times, but it's nothing I can't deal with. On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: It feels like the compact voice responds quicker on my iPhone 4 and that when I switch to the big voice, it becomes more sluggish - kinda obvious. I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it and using it as an excuse to upgrade to a 4S though. I'm using the big voice on my iPad 2 and it's fine, which you'd expect as it's rocking the A5 chip. But again is this just me hearing what I want to hear? Anyway, I'd be interested to hear what anyone else thinks? I'm going to reserve a 4S tonight anyway, so I've no need to worry really, I'm using the voice assistant as the only excuse I need! JT --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri crashed.
Yes, siri, and in fact any dictation speech recognition on the iphone 4s is server based, if there is a problem with the network connection or apple's servers, it will not work. How do you enable or disable siri, I'm assuming you can do this in settings? On Oct 15, 2011, at 1:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: My guess is that there was a server crash because two other friends located on the US East coast are confirming my symptom. Basically, all commands to Siri appear to time out. Siri issues a message indicating that it's having trouble accessing the network and prompts for another command which it deals with in similar fashion. I suspect the system is over loaded by millions who are playing with their new toys by asking the calorie count of a bagel, but it got me to thinking that the 3GS was better since it could call contacts tell the time or play music without benefit of an internet connection. Since IOS runs on the 3GS I decided to try disabling Siri to verify that I could restore the old functionality in the event of a Siri server crash, and indeed it worked. I wonder if this was a world wide issue? Probably not the ideal first impression for some. Best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: MobileGeo replacement?
I assume you're staying with Sprint, in that case, you should be able to keep your number, even if you switched carriers, the number could probably be ported. There are some nice apps for gps, a 32 GB phone is plenty, the entire United States takes about 1 GB with the iphone GPS apps. The map engine Sendero uses for mobile geo is several years behind the times. For navigation, check out navigon, TomTom, or motionx GPS, that one is my favorite. To tell where you are, you may want to get the sendero look around app. I use GPS on iphone and android and I do not miss mobile geo at all, the main stream apps do what I need. Original message: Well, for the past 4 years, I have been using my Windows 6.5 phone since I refused to leave Sprint as a carrier. NOw, I can finally get a modern phone to use in the iPhone that will be accessabile. My main concern, is with losing MobileGeo just as I am about to start a new job in a new location. Now I expect with the builtin compass I should be beter off knowing if I am walking in the right direction from the start, but will I need a 32GB phone to store a GPS app on it or am I fairly safe with a smaller phone. Also, should I initially get a new phone number, so I can keep my codefactory license live until I learn the iPhone? I have been using Macintoshes since '88 and I am excited that now I will have a chance to use an iPhone. Thanks, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
The real issue with OCR is the restrictions Apple has placed on what developers can do, I've heard that prismo works pretty well, but there are several things developers cannot do with regard to camera focus that can be done with android and Symbian. Hopefully apple will open the camera interface a bit more to developers, but who knows if that will happen. On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:18 AM, william lomas wrote: hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a camera ne worth it for blind users? On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: Absolutely, Jeff. This is exactly why we are getting the negativity. This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them. I ordered my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions. The camera, Siri and the better processor are simply worth the money to me. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?! Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one. It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't. Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!! If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap. The following article entitled why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, wrong presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below: http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: is the iPhone 4s worth it? http://www.appolicious.com/tech/articles/9709-is-the-iphone-4s-worth-buying --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: iphone 4s
Android may not have every single accessibility feature the iphone does, but I can easily complete the same task on both platforms, and sometimes android is faster, have you actually tried android or are you saying this from what you have heard? On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: But the iPhone still has something well over the android, that being accessibility. On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:45 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: The big area where apple is playing catch up is by using the cloud. The ability to sync between devices, and not having to use itunes nearly as much. Also, speech recognition and the ability to dictate text, android has had this for quite some time. Android still provides free turn by turn directions, but this must be purchased for the iphone. The iphone is also more expensive, don't get me wrong, the iphone is a good product, but many of the things apple is introducing are already on android. One thing that is important for me is the ability to connect an android phone to a computer, and it will show up as a drive, I can simply copy and delete files. Compared to android, the iphone is a bit restrictive. On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Maybe somebody can explain to me how ios5 is playing catch up with Android for blind users. Other perspectives aren't especially important for us as blind users, right? So on the Android phones, I must have a physical navigation method. No touch screen only devices. Which duel core Android phones with 8mp cameras and a gb of ram plus voice assistant will be available to me? Are they gsm capable as well as cdma? What will they cost? In other words, let us please compare apples and apples here, no pun in tended. I don't care if an all touch screen phone has a bigger screen, slightly faster processor and lets me use external bluetooth devices. If I can't navigate and use the phone to its full potential, why on earth would I want it? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember
Re: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store!
Does chrome vox work correctly with dynamic web pages? I know this was an issue previously. I would say that you have been able to browse the web on the mac productively for a while, at least since I've had a mac. Guess I have not had the safari issues that some users have. On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: Hi Jeff, You're very welcome. Not only does Chrome and ChromeVox finally make web browsing very viable and possible on Mac OS X. It also brings productivity by way ofDocs, which I've been using a lot for past 2 weeks and it's absolutely wonderful, great, and awesome. From web browsing to productivity and everything in between using Chrome and ChromeVox, it's very productive, effective, and efficient. Google has done an amazing job with accessibility, great their very open to input/feedback, interactive, and willing to address concerns so rapidly. I'll continue to thoroughly test and document any/all issues for Google as it's been a great experience, one I really enjoy, and it's great to see that it benefits so many. Now, ChromeVox is in Chrome web store, I really hope that more will be aware of it, and be able to use it. Kevin On 10/4/11, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kevin, Thanks so much for this as it did indeed resolve my ChromeVOX issue on Lion posted in detail on Friday. You've clearly been doing an excellent job testing and thoroughly documenting issues for Google, and thanks to your efforts this may finally result in a viable browsing option on MacOS. Best regards and keep up the great work! Geoff - Original Message - From: Kevin Chao To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:54 PM Subject: Fwd: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store! This is wonderful, fantastic, and awesome! It will resolve 99.99% of installation/initial setup issues. -- Forwarded message -- From: rshearer rshea...@google.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store! To: axs-chrome-disc...@googlegroups.com Hi everybody, I've mentioned this on a couple threads already, but I thought I would make an announcement to the group... We just added ChromeVox to the Chrome Web Store! Hooray! Here are some of the advantages to installing ChromeVox from the Web Store: - You'll get automatic updates - Version numbers mean something - We have a fancy new icon :) I updated the Installation Instructions here: http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/InstallingChromeVox and they describe how to download it from the Web Store. Here is the quick version: 1) Make sure you're running Chrome 14 or higher 2) Uninstall any previous version of ChromeVox 3) Go to the ChromeVox page in the Chrome Web Store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn 4) Click on the Add to Chrome button 5) A dialog should pop up titled Confirm Installation that lists the permissions that ChromeVox needs. We have a wiki page now about why we need these permissions if you're interested: http://code.google.com/p/google-axs-chrome/wiki/PermissionsGuide . Click on the Install button to complete the installation process. 6) Yay, ChromeVox is now installed! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: iphone 4s
As far as the iphone 4 S goes, and this is just my opinion, I don't really think it's revolutionary. Ok, a faster processor and better camera, and it works with GSM and CDMA. The main interest seems to be IOS 5, which in many ways is playing catch up with android, but will be available for previous iphone models. I wonder if Apple will sell the new iphone unlocked on their site? The price seems a bit high though, for the 64 GB model, it's $399 U.S, and that's with a 2 year contract with a carrier. I have paid less for phones that were unlocked, if you have a device that can run IOS 5, I'm not sure it's worth paying for the new iphone. On Oct 4, 2011, at 3:12 PM, william lomas wrote: so voice recognition is only on iPhone 4s? ripoff why would i want a new phone just for that feature? true we have it seems faster processor but ios five works on current devices --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iphone 4s
Unless Apple removes some of the restrictions on the camera, a higher resolution camera will not help with OCR. Apple has limited the control developers have with the camera for doing things such as focus, zoom, etc. These are important for text recognition. On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Rose Morales wrote: I disagree that the iPhone 4S is a let down. The camera alone will be a huge step in the right direction for OCR. I also like that the new iPhones will handle both GSM and CDMA. No having to worry about whether your phone is compatible with what carrier. Just unlock it and you're good to go. Speak to text is also a nifty feature. I probably won't use Seri, but I'm relatively pleased. On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: it simply uses words, extrapolates context using some kind of ruleset and gives back answers. Essentially we've waited 16 months for a device with a faster chipset, a better antenna oh and voice recognition packaged as a personal assistant. A triumph of marketing over content.. Who knows, the people who put that little lot together are probably the same geniuses who put the spin on unpopular government policy. *smile* I'll probably still buy one though because my poor old 3gs is starting to give up the ghost. I'll now await the collective explosions from the apple-can-do-no-wrong fundamentalists! Cheers Dónal On 4 Oct 2011, at 22:40, Orin wrote: It's more than VOice Recognition. It's an assistant, which is more than Voice Rec. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:12 PM, william lomas wrote: so voice recognition is only on iPhone 4s? ripoff why would i want a new phone just for that feature? true we have it seems faster processor but ios five works on current devices --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: iphone 4s
The big area where apple is playing catch up is by using the cloud. The ability to sync between devices, and not having to use itunes nearly as much. Also, speech recognition and the ability to dictate text, android has had this for quite some time. Android still provides free turn by turn directions, but this must be purchased for the iphone. The iphone is also more expensive, don't get me wrong, the iphone is a good product, but many of the things apple is introducing are already on android. One thing that is important for me is the ability to connect an android phone to a computer, and it will show up as a drive, I can simply copy and delete files. Compared to android, the iphone is a bit restrictive. On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Maybe somebody can explain to me how ios5 is playing catch up with Android for blind users. Other perspectives aren't especially important for us as blind users, right? So on the Android phones, I must have a physical navigation method. No touch screen only devices. Which duel core Android phones with 8mp cameras and a gb of ram plus voice assistant will be available to me? Are they gsm capable as well as cdma? What will they cost? In other words, let us please compare apples and apples here, no pun in tended. I don't care if an all touch screen phone has a bigger screen, slightly faster processor and lets me use external bluetooth devices. If I can't navigate and use the phone to its full potential, why on earth would I want it? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Booksense and MacBook Pro
Yes, give this a try. On the desktop, press command comma to open the finder preferences. In the tool bar, click the general option if this is not already selected. You will see some check boxes for what drives to show on the desktop. Check the option to show external disks, while you're here, you may want to check the options for hard disks and CDs as well. On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Jane wrote: I've gotten the BookSense to connect to the MacBook via USB, but the only way I can make it appear on the desktop is by doing a search for it after hitting command-shift-h. Is there a way to force it to show up on the desktop like the hard drive does or like other DVDs do? Jane --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Upgrading Fusion Under Lion
This performs a mouse click, you will want to first make sure the mouse pointer is where you want to click before using this command. On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: What does vo-shift-space do? Matthew Chao At 03:19 PM 10/1/2011, you wrote: Hello: Actually you need to do VO-shift-space. On Oct 1, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: Hello. Am still having trouble. Perhaps I'm missing something: 1. I went to the downloads folder. 2. found the dmg file for Fusion. 3. Went to File Menu and specified mount disk. 4. Went into the mounted disk and went through the steps to upgrade. Nothing happening? What am I missing? I'm frustrated. Matthew Chao At 10:14 AM 10/1/2011, you wrote: i just did VO space and command tab to it On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but I haven't had a chance to upgrade Fusion to Version 4 under Lion. Anyway, when I mounted the unew Fusion, it said to double-click to upgrade from version 3. How do I do that? I tried hitting enter, vo-space, Quicknav for enter, but no luck. What do I need to do to get this right? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware,
Re: Should a 4 gig Mac stick with VM Fusion 3?
A 4 gb mac should work fine, that's what one of mine is, works great. Mymacbook and one of my mac minis only have 2 GB, even that works fine with fusion 4, though of course it's a bit slower at times. On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Dear List, another VM Fusion question, Should a Mac with a upper limit of 4 gigs running Lyon stick to VM Fusion 3 with Windows 7 64 or 32 bit Guest OS? If Moving to VM 4.1 will the ram needs slow down the Mac side? I'm reading how much faster VM 4 is then VM 3. In my unsuccessful efforts I did use it a bit. It seemed to load faster but the actual windows speed in the VM seemed more sluggish. I don't want to hurt my mac performance to get the Guest working correctly. I will only have 4 Gigs of ram total to use. tips are truly appreciated. eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Windows under Parallels
I am definitely curious how your test results go with parallels 7, of course, we can't use it anyway, the company obviously has no interest in making their product accessible, but the comparison should be interesting. Fusion 4 was worth the upgrade I think. On Sep 25, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello everybody Just to report that Windows under Parallels is now not much, if any, faster than Fusion 4. I haven't tried Windows under Parallels 7 yet, but I'm off to get it now. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VM fusion 4.1 final
Generally, I allow windows to have half of my memory. This mac mini has 2 gb of ram, so I let fusion have 1 gb, this is a bit slow with windows 7 but it was work. I have another mini that has 4 gb of memory, for that one, windows has 2 GB On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello John Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: Mike: If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01
Yes, this should be plenty of memory On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:34 PM, mike maslo wrote: Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 Hi Lynne and others, Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and use the paste command. this is very useful. I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well for me yet. eric Caron On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello Eric I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Lynne and others, Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? Eric Caron On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello Geoff On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Microsoft word
The mac version of Microsoft office is totally inaccessible, stick with iwork or open office. On Sep 21, 2011, at 8:14 AM, mike maslo wrote: Hi list: Please can someone tell me if Microsoft word or that Microsoft office suite is accessible with voice over? If not, what products can I use if I want to work with Microsoft word or such? Thanks in advance --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: firmware update?
Usually software update will tell you if there are updates. On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:17 PM, joe quinn wrote: does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, where do i obtain it from? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: bringing back to factory new?
I would erase the hard drive, then reinstall snow leppard, once it restarts, see if you can exit the set up, if not, just power it off and the next time it's started, it should start the set up assistant for whoever uses it. On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: Can anyone tell me how to bring back a Mac Book Pro to the state it was in when new? It's running Snow Leopard and, of course, I have the factory DVDs. Thanks. Kevin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
