Re: java in safari on or off for different sites

[Claus Thøgersen]

Hi,

The download is now reinstalled and the problem is still there.
Did you try to visit the 2 pages from my first mail? Even though the 
language is not english it is easy to see if you can read the page or not.


Claus
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: java in safari on or off for different sites


Hello Claus,

I think you must have some serious corruption on one or more files relating 
to Safari. My best suggestion would be to apply the combo update to OS X 
10.6.4. Using the combo update can often fixe a lot of spurious problems.


Here's a link to the download:


Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Oct 2010, at 12:38, Claus Thøgersen wrote:


Hi,

Yes I mean Java, that is turning Java off solved the problem I have on 
these 2 danish sites

www.dr.dk
www.jp.dk

With Java enabled the pages never really load, but when it is turned off I 
have no problems.
For other users it works fine, so it is a similar situation to google.com 
that I can use as my startup page in Safari but others report many 
problems with google.
Something in the VO/safari combination is not very stable currently, I 
hope Apple are aware of what is going on.


As far as I know there are no real java applications on these pages, I can 
only describe how I found a solution to the problem.
To make it even more strange, on theDanish Library for the blind, I am 
testing downloads of daisy books. In order to get the download to work I 
had to enable java.  So now I have some services that requires java and 
other sites that require I turn java off.


Claus

- Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: java in safari on or off for different sites


You should not have to disable java for pages to work, this could indicate 
a problem with something else. Are you talking about java itself or java 
script, they are 2 different things. Many pages use java script, but very 
few pages that I know of actually use java, as in a java application.

On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Claus Thøgersen wrote:


Hi,

I have a strange problem with Java in Safari.
On some pages I need to have java enabled in order to use the page.
However if Java is enabled I have other pages that will not work, Safari 
just seems to try to load the page without success.

the problem on these pages is solved by disabling java.
Is there a java setting I can change to make java work on all sites, or a 
way to enable java on specific sites?


I have no English language pages where I have the problem with java 
enabled, and other Danish users have no problems on the pages that I 
cannot access with java enabled, very strange!


Claus

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Mod note -was- RE: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Cara Quinn]

Hi All;

This is just a friendly reminder that unless a topic has to do with Mac / 
Apple, it's really not on-topic here. so please let's move the discussion of 
routers elsewhere unless we want to keep this related to Apple products, K?

thanks so much and I wish y'all a lovely day / evening!…

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Re: using track changes and comments in pages

[Greg Aikens]

Thanks for the response. I was wondering if unlinking the VO cursor and the 
keyboard cursor (think that's what it is called) might allow me to look at both 
at once. I'm not  proficient with my cursors yet and am not sure how I might do 
this. 

Any idea if this can be done using open office? I don't have access to a 
windows machine and don't have boot camp set up. 

Thanks for any more help.

Greg
On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Braille wrote:

> Track change requires that the focus can be monitored real time. If you click 
> on edit, track change, track change bar appears under the regular menu bar. 
> While you can accept, reject, and or ignore any changes made on the document, 
> you cannot tell which word or sentence or letter is being edited because VO 
> does not track the track change area while reading the body text. That being 
> said, I am producing and editing with track changes all the time and can only 
> be successful with the use of MS word on Boot camp side. 
> I know that this is not the answer that you want to hear but for now, that is 
> the way it is as far as I know.
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
> 
>> Hey people,
>> I asked this question before but got no response. I'm still trying to figure 
>> out how to make use of the track changes and comment features in pages. I 
>> have a document which my professor has marked up with corrections and I need 
>> to figure out where each correction goes. Any help is appreciated... Come on 
>> power pages users...
>> 
>> -Greg
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mac mini server with no keyboard but the bluetooth one

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi list,

In preparation for my IT pro certification i've purchased a mac mini server 
late 2010.

AFter having sussed the hardware plug locations and taking the lid off to feel 
how easy it is to upgrade it, i've decided to start it up.

I have one problem here. I have no wired keyboard, but i do have a bluetooth 
one which the apple representative at the store told me would be recognized 
immediately by the OS.

Well, it's not happening, and i have no idea how i can tell whether it has been 
paired or not aside from the fact that it apparently hasn't paired with no 
reaction when i try turning VO on.


I could start booting with the snow leopard install DVD but even then how am i 
supposed to start vo without any input device apparently recognized by the 
software?


Serious newbie question here, but its something i guess someone could 
troubleshoot right away with sight.

Any help would be greatly appreciated 

Thanks, and best 


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RE: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Simon Fogarty]

Linksys is a subsiddery  of cisco. 
Linksys is the name that cisco put on their residential  or retail devices
where as on their commercial devices they put the cisco name.
They also don't give Linksys devices the same level of configuration as
cisco devices are given. 

 However some Linksys devices it is possible to wipe the firmware and
install surtain versions of other linux based control os to up grade the
systems.



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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2010 5:22 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

Really, that is interesting. I have an old Linksys I keep here as a backup
and it served me well until I switched to Apple routers. Cisco must have
sold off or farmed out development for their routers lately. DLink was not
the recommended router a few years ago. Funny how manufacturers swap places
in the rankings from time to time.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Do * not * buy anything linksys!
> 
> They are knock off cisco products and have al the problems inharent in
that.
> 
> They do not forward at line rate, do not have stable radios and have
serious under processing problems.  They also have squirrely results when
left on for a long period of time.
> 
> D-Link was definitely the right choice.  Oh and the QOS isn't broken on a
D-Link extreme like it is on the Linksys.  Linksys products don't
appropriately classify or tag traffic for QOS calculations.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log 
>> on to the device.
>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their 
>> interface was never overly great.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a 
>> D-Link extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network 
>> settings don't seem to be sticking.  How does one go into the network 
>> settings for a D-link router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to
work in this case.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: reading and writing to NTFS partitions

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

The Mac already has native ways to write to NTFS, anyway, without introducing 
software just by enabling it through Terminal. Apparently, that solution works 
for some people but not everyone, unless they are missing some steps.

Also, the downside to doing this is you have to enable it on a per volume 
basis, so when it is ejected, you have to reenable the read/write. I suppose 
software would take care of that, of course, though I wish it wasn't necessary 
to make the change stick. It's apparently because of security reasons, though.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The way I would handle that is to format the drive as a fat32 drive. That 
> way, both the mac and windows can read and write to it, without introducing 
> any extra software on either platform.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
> 
>> Hello allJ
>> 
>>I recently acquired an external hard drive I wish to use for 
>> backing up my old laptop. Furthermore, as I will be using Windows 
>> occasionally as my transition into the Mac world progresses, I would like to 
>> use it as a central location for storing things that I may use on both 
>> computers (music, class notes, essays, books, pipe rench manuals, the 
>> Geologic Podcast, etc.). Formatting this hard drive in the HFS+ (journaled) 
>> format doesn’t work at all for Windows. I know that Mac’s can interact with 
>> hard drives formatted to NTFS in a read-only state, yet can’t write to them. 
>> I further understand that there is some program which changes this. What 
>> would be the monetary expenditure (if any) required for the procurement of 
>> such a program—and, upon acquiring the program, are there any special 
>> instructions that accompany it (NTFS-3g) or is the use of that program 
>> straight forward and transparent to the operating system? Any help would be 
>> greedily received and the person giving it indiscriminately unacknowledged 
>> and cruely dismissed…
>> Just joking, it’s just that the phrase “greatly appreciated” is overused and 
>> is beginning to sound tired and bland. Although any help would be received 
>> with humble gratitude (too cheesy)?
>> I would appreciate any advice on this matter and apologize if this topic has 
>> already been covered; due to the enormous amount of messages this list 
>> generates, I tend to move them all to another folder and searching them can 
>> be tiresome.
>> Sincerely,
>> Robert Hooper
>> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
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Re: using track changes and comments in pages

[Braille]

Track change requires that the focus can be monitored real time. If you click 
on edit, track change, track change bar appears under the regular menu bar. 
While you can accept, reject, and or ignore any changes made on the document, 
you cannot tell which word or sentence or letter is being edited because VO 
does not track the track change area while reading the body text. That being 
said, I am producing and editing with track changes all the time and can only 
be successful with the use of MS word on Boot camp side. 
I know that this is not the answer that you want to hear but for now, that is 
the way it is as far as I know.

On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Hey people,
> I asked this question before but got no response. I'm still trying to figure 
> out how to make use of the track changes and comment features in pages. I 
> have a document which my professor has marked up with corrections and I need 
> to figure out where each correction goes. Any help is appreciated... Come on 
> power pages users...
> 
> -Greg
> 
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Re: exchange account

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Robert,

When it comes to Exchange and Apple Mail, AddressBook just simply syncs.  That 
is, all the contacts available on the Exchange server are synced behind the 
scenes.  Therefore, even though you don't see these directly in your 
AddressBook, if you enter the first few characters of an eMail address or 
contact name that resides on the Exchange server, Mail will either finish it 
for you or give you choices of the matching recipients.  Groups are a little 
more problematic in that you need to know the actual eMail address of the 
group, not just the display name.  So, if your Group or distribution List is 
named "Law Students" with the eMail address "legalst...@university.edu", then 
either type the eMail address or add the address to your own AddressBook giving 
it the appropriate name and then you are able to use the name or eMail address.

Calendars do work in some manner but I'm not totally familiar with it.  I do 
know though that when I received invites, they were placed in my calendar.  I 
suggest that you go to Apple discussions to learn more about iCal and Exchange 
syncing.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-10-04, at 5:58 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:

> Hello AllJ
>  
> As I may have passingly mentioned in a previous post, The Ohio State 
> University email system is set up and run from an exchange server. My 
> question regards the synchronization of information. On my PC, all my 
> contacts and calendar schedule is nicely synchronized. When I set up the mail 
> account on the Mac, I seem to remember it saying something about 
> synchronizing my contacts and calendar with the corresponding Mac 
> applications. However, when opening either iCal or Address Book, there aren’t 
> any appointments or contacts to be seen. Is there an additional step I must 
> take? Is there something I am missing in order for this to work properly? 
> Also, on an unrelated note, I hear a lot about a program called Webkit. From 
> the information I am receiving via the list, it seems to be something derived 
> from the native Safari web browser or its code. Could somebody describe 
> exactly what it is, the benefits to using such, and why it may be preferable 
> to Safari? Any information would be greatfully received.
> Thanks,
> Robert Hooper
> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
>  
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Re: Navigating mail and Safari

[GEOFF WAALER]

Hi Linda,

What flavor of Mac do you have?  Does it have a trackpad?  If so would you be 
willing to consider that interface as an alternative to the keyboard?

Personally I became extremely disgusted with the fact that all VO commands 
required anywhere from three to five keys which often had no rhyme nor reason 
to them (e.g. control-option-u for the rotor when the letter u is absent from 
the word rotor), or the way you were often forced to remove hands from the home 
keys to enter for example control-option-shift-f3 to toggle cursor tracking 
since the macbook pro lacks a control on the right side.

I realize that personal preferences vary, but I began using the trackpad almost 
exclusively and now find reviewing email and web navigation very comfortable 
and fast using MacOs and voiceOver.  I will share some details if the trackpad 
is even applicable in your situation.  If you are going to stay with the 
keyboard, I'm afraid Sarah has your best answer on this thread so far -- 
essentially that you're SOL.

Best regards.
Geoff 

On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> Hello, everyone.  I am Linda Adams, a very new and inexperienced user of an 
> Apple Snow Leopard 10.6.  I have been a Windoes user for ten years, and now
> I am experimenting to see if the Apple Snow Leopard will be comfortably 
> accessible. 
>  
> My computer technician friend has been worried for a while about the
> increasing security problems with Windows computers and is wanting me to 
> switch to Apple.  I would be very interested to hear from former Windows users
> regarding what benefits they experience with Apple versus the Windows PC 
> computer.
> On a more specific note, is there anything that I can set in System 
> Preferences or VoiceOver Utility to get rid of the table view in Mail and 
> switch it
> to a list view so that there aren't as many navigation steps to go through to 
> read messages?
> Are there settings that I can do to allow me to read a website line by line 
> from the top of the page to the bottom in Safari?  I like to go to catalog 
> websites
> such as LL Bean or The Vermont Country Store where there are plain text 
> descriptions of every product below that product link.  I want to see the web 
> pages
> as they really are rather than just being shown links, headers, or other such 
> element groups.
> My hands are quite small.  Is it possible to change settings so that not as 
> many keys need to be pressed at a time to perform functions?  I know about 
> Quick Nav and locking the VoiceOver keys, but the VoiceOver keys often need 
> to be unlocked to perform other commands.  
> Thank you for any advice and help that you can give me.  I have three friends 
> counting on me to tell them whether Apple would be good to switch to or not.
> 
> Linda Adams
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ntfs 3g

[Robert Hooper]

Hello once again:)

How do I install and use NTFS 3g? Sorry for my lack of knowledge regarding 
these matters.
Robert Hooper

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Re: Not able to sign into itunes

[carlene knight]

Oh, I didn't look at the original message as I posted a similar problem with 
busy signals the other day.  Sorry.  Incidentally Antonio, my sighted husband 
is having trouble playing videos since the last update, and I have been having 
mouse problems and busy signals also..
On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Don't hit enter, hit tab onto okay field then hit space and see if that 
> works.  Why itunes should be going into busy mode like that even under these 
> circumstances though for me is a puzzle.  If you can get to a local mac users 
> group meeting you may get lots more support there.  Have you got a working 
> mouse and monitor hooked up to the computer too?  Could be a missing mouse 
> may freak itunes out.On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Antonio M Guimaraes Jr. wrote:
> 
>> I am trying t upgrade my iphone for the fist time, and it requires itunes. I 
>> am using itunes on a new Mac mini, but I need to perform several operations 
>> before I can upgrade the iPhone.
>> 
>> These include signing into itunes, aothorizing my computer, and playing a 
>> song or video I purchased from itunes
>> 
>> The issue is signing in. itunes keeps going into busy mode after I enter the 
>> password, and press enter. This keeps happening until I am forced to shut 
>> the program down.
>> 
>> Is there a known issue with itunes, and a solution, or do I need to do 
>> something different for thingsg to work?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Antonio Guimaraes
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Re: Not able to sign into itunes

[carlene knight]

I've got a Magic Mousepad.  I'm still having some busy signals as usual when I 
go down the sources table as the app store always tries to load, I think.  I 
discovered that somehow the hide Ping sidebar had become unchecked, and I think 
it was searching for a Ping playlist.  It still doesn't act perfect, but better 
than it did.  Thanks.


On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Don't hit enter, hit tab onto okay field then hit space and see if that 
> works.  Why itunes should be going into busy mode like that even under these 
> circumstances though for me is a puzzle.  If you can get to a local mac users 
> group meeting you may get lots more support there.  Have you got a working 
> mouse and monitor hooked up to the computer too?  Could be a missing mouse 
> may freak itunes out.On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Antonio M Guimaraes Jr. wrote:
> 
>> I am trying t upgrade my iphone for the fist time, and it requires itunes. I 
>> am using itunes on a new Mac mini, but I need to perform several operations 
>> before I can upgrade the iPhone.
>> 
>> These include signing into itunes, aothorizing my computer, and playing a 
>> song or video I purchased from itunes
>> 
>> The issue is signing in. itunes keeps going into busy mode after I enter the 
>> password, and press enter. This keeps happening until I am forced to shut 
>> the program down.
>> 
>> Is there a known issue with itunes, and a solution, or do I need to do 
>> something different for thingsg to work?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Antonio Guimaraes
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using track changes and comments in pages

[Greg Aikens]

Hey people,
I asked this question before but got no response. I'm still trying to figure 
out how to make use of the track changes and comment features in pages. I have 
a document which my professor has marked up with corrections and I need to 
figure out where each correction goes. Any help is appreciated... Come on power 
pages users...

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Re: track pads

[heather kd5cbl]

I have not received my mac yet but I had the same problem in the store.  Can 
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track pads

[carlene knight]

How do you click and double tap with a track pad?  I have the Magic Track Pad, 
and sometimes when links are highlighted, they tend to activate whether I want 
them to or not.  I can't seem to double tap on anything, nothing happens.  I am 
so frustrated with the thing that it is just sitting here on my desk getting 
more dust than use.  It works perfectly well for my sighted husband with the 
track pad commander turned off.

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Re: exchange account

[Colin M]

Hi Robert!
I know that other listers will give you more!
But what I understand is things are  tried on webkit and then make it to a 
later safari so using webkit means it can be a little more advanced than safari 
and might do somethings a bit better!
I'm sure someone will put you right if I got it wrong
On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:58, Robert Hooper wrote:

> Hello AllJ
>  
> As I may have passingly mentioned in a previous post, The Ohio State 
> University email system is set up and run from an exchange server. My 
> question regards the synchronisation of information. On my PC, all my 
> contacts and calendar schedule is nicely synchronised. When I set up the mail 
> account on the Mac, I seem to remember it saying something about 
> synchronising my contacts and calendar with the corresponding Mac 
> applications. However, when opening either iCal or Address Book, there aren’t 
> any appointments or contacts to be seen. Is there an additional step I must 
> take? Is there something I am missing in order for this to work properly? 
> Also, on an unrelated note, I hear a lot about a program called Webkit. From 
> the information I am receiving via the list, it seems to be something derived 
> from the native Safari web browser or its code. Could somebody describe 
> exactly what it is, the benefits to using such, and why it may be preferable 
> to Safari? Any information would be gratefully received.
> Thanks,
> Robert Hooper
> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
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exchange account

[Robert Hooper]

Hello All:)

As I may have passingly mentioned in a previous post, The Ohio State University 
email system is set up and run from an exchange server. My question regards the 
synchronization of information. On my PC, all my contacts and calendar schedule 
is nicely synchronized. When I set up the mail account on the Mac, I seem to 
remember it saying something about synchronizing my contacts and calendar with 
the corresponding Mac applications. However, when opening either iCal or 
Address Book, there aren't any appointments or contacts to be seen. Is there an 
additional step I must take? Is there something I am missing in order for this 
to work properly? Also, on an unrelated note, I hear a lot about a program 
called Webkit. From the information I am receiving via the list, it seems to be 
something derived from the native Safari web browser or its code. Could 
somebody describe exactly what it is, the benefits to using such, and why it 
may be preferable to Safari? Any information would be greatfully received.
Thanks,
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Re: Mouse cursor\vo cursor

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Most of the time, I don't find it necessary to move the mouse cursor to the VO 
cursor.  Generally, I just find one needs to be just interacting when in a 
table or list.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> hi,
> 
> There are some web-pages and a few apps that behave strangely when the mouse 
> follows the VO cursor.  This happened more in the past before VO went through 
> so many upgrades but still is there occasionally.  What is happening in these 
> cases most likely is that when the mouse is over a certain item or area, it 
> causes something to occur that more or less makes your app unresponsive.  The 
> only way to get out of it would have been to either wait until an opportune 
> moment when it was between busy cycles or to Force Quit the app.  Now, with 
> this in mind, I still have all my cursors following each other at all times 
> and seldom have issues.
> 
> Even with cursors following each other, you will need to use the VO-cmd-f5 
> command to bring the mouse cursor to the VO cursor when dragging and dropping.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2010-10-04, at 5:38 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!
>> I'm wondering why people do not have the mouse cursor automatically follow 
>> the vo cursor?
>> I've heard on a few occasions that people move the mouse cursor to the vo 
>> cursor!
>> There is a setting to make this happen, and would remove the need to route 
>> the mouse to vo!
>> Or is there an advantage to not having the mouse follow vo?
>> All the best!
>> Colin
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Re: Mouse cursor\vo cursor

[Ricardo Walker]

I know when snow leopard first came out, having the mouse follow VO would cause 
some very buggy behavior.  Especially when navigating the menubar.  Personally, 
I have my mouse cursor following VO.  I don't notice much bad behaior because 
of it.  At least not anymore using OSX 10.64.

hth
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> Hi all!
> I'm wondering why people do not have the mouse cursor automatically follow 
> the vo cursor?
> I've heard on a few occasions that people move the mouse cursor to the vo 
> cursor!
> There is a setting to make this happen, and would remove the need to route 
> the mouse to vo!
> Or is there an advantage to not having the mouse follow vo?
> All the best!
> Colin
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Re: Mouse cursor\vo cursor

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

There are some web-pages and a few apps that behave strangely when the mouse 
follows the VO cursor.  This happened more in the past before VO went through 
so many upgrades but still is there occasionally.  What is happening in these 
cases most likely is that when the mouse is over a certain item or area, it 
causes something to occur that more or less makes your app unresponsive.  The 
only way to get out of it would have been to either wait until an opportune 
moment when it was between busy cycles or to Force Quit the app.  Now, with 
this in mind, I still have all my cursors following each other at all times and 
seldom have issues.

Even with cursors following each other, you will need to use the VO-cmd-f5 
command to bring the mouse cursor to the VO cursor when dragging and dropping.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi all!
> I'm wondering why people do not have the mouse cursor automatically follow 
> the vo cursor?
> I've heard on a few occasions that people move the mouse cursor to the vo 
> cursor!
> There is a setting to make this happen, and would remove the need to route 
> the mouse to vo!
> Or is there an advantage to not having the mouse follow vo?
> All the best!
> Colin
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Re: reading and writing to NTFS partitions

[Sarah Alawami]

but you only have  a4 gig limit per file transfer. Most of my progects I do are 
about 4 to 8 gigs so that won't do at all.

Take care.

S
On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The way I would handle that is to format the drive as a fat32 drive. That 
> way, both the mac and windows can read and write to it, without introducing 
> any extra software on either platform.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
> 
>> Hello allJ
>> 
>>I recently acquired an external hard drive I wish to use for 
>> backing up my old laptop. Furthermore, as I will be using Windows 
>> occasionally as my transition into the Mac world progresses, I would like to 
>> use it as a central location for storing things that I may use on both 
>> computers (music, class notes, essays, books, pipe rench manuals, the 
>> Geologic Podcast, etc.). Formatting this hard drive in the HFS+ (journaled) 
>> format doesn’t work at all for Windows. I know that Mac’s can interact with 
>> hard drives formatted to NTFS in a read-only state, yet can’t write to them. 
>> I further understand that there is some program which changes this. What 
>> would be the monetary expenditure (if any) required for the procurement of 
>> such a program—and, upon acquiring the program, are there any special 
>> instructions that accompany it (NTFS-3g) or is the use of that program 
>> straight forward and transparent to the operating system? Any help would be 
>> greedily received and the person giving it indiscriminately unacknowledged 
>> and cruely dismissed…
>> Just joking, it’s just that the phrase “greatly appreciated” is overused and 
>> is beginning to sound tired and bland. Although any help would be received 
>> with humble gratitude (too cheesy)?
>> I would appreciate any advice on this matter and apologize if this topic has 
>> already been covered; due to the enormous amount of messages this list 
>> generates, I tend to move them all to another folder and searching them can 
>> be tiresome.
>> Sincerely,
>> Robert Hooper
>> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
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Re: Navigating mail and Safari

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi Linda, though it may be a bit difficult for you to get used to at first 
voice over and the mac do things a bit differently than the windows screen 
readers, so you will find that things do not work exactly the same. For 
example, on the web, you move item by item rather than line by line. Things are 
still read in proper order, and links and controls are still separated the way 
you're used to, but it moves by item rather than line. A table is similar to a 
list view in that you can move through the messages, and you can interact with 
the table and read down the list without hearing every column As I move through 
my messages, I usually just read the subject line. While there are some 
similarities between the mac and windows, there are some definite differences, 
and expecting everything to work the way you are used to will cause problems.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> Hello, everyone.  I am Linda Adams, a very new and inexperienced user of an 
> Apple Snow Leopard 10.6.  I have been a Windoes user for ten years, and now
> I am experimenting to see if the Apple Snow Leopard will be comfortably 
> accessible. 
>  
> My computer technician friend has been worried for a while about the
> increasing security problems with Windows computers and is wanting me to 
> switch to Apple.  I would be very interested to hear from former Windows users
> regarding what benefits they experience with Apple versus the Windows PC 
> computer.
> On a more specific note, is there anything that I can set in System 
> Preferences or VoiceOver Utility to get rid of the table view in Mail and 
> switch it
> to a list view so that there aren't as many navigation steps to go through to 
> read messages?
> Are there settings that I can do to allow me to read a website line by line 
> from the top of the page to the bottom in Safari?  I like to go to catalog 
> websites
> such as LL Bean or The Vermont Country Store where there are plain text 
> descriptions of every product below that product link.  I want to see the web 
> pages
> as they really are rather than just being shown links, headers, or other such 
> element groups.
> My hands are quite small.  Is it possible to change settings so that not as 
> many keys need to be pressed at a time to perform functions?  I know about 
> Quick Nav and locking the VoiceOver keys, but the VoiceOver keys often need 
> to be unlocked to perform other commands.  
> Thank you for any advice and help that you can give me.  I have three friends 
> counting on me to tell them whether Apple would be good to switch to or not.
> 
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Mouse cursor\vo cursor

[Colin M]

Hi all!
I'm wondering why people do not have the mouse cursor automatically follow the 
vo cursor?
I've heard on a few occasions that people move the mouse cursor to the vo 
cursor!
There is a setting to make this happen, and would remove the need to route the 
mouse to vo!
Or is there an advantage to not having the mouse follow vo?
All the best!
Colin

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Re: reading and writing to NTFS partitions

[Mike Arrigo]

The way I would handle that is to format the drive as a fat32 drive. That way, 
both the mac and windows can read and write to it, without introducing any 
extra software on either platform.
On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:

> Hello allJ
>  
> I recently acquired an external hard drive I wish to use for 
> backing up my old laptop. Furthermore, as I will be using Windows 
> occasionally as my transition into the Mac world progresses, I would like to 
> use it as a central location for storing things that I may use on both 
> computers (music, class notes, essays, books, pipe rench manuals, the 
> Geologic Podcast, etc.). Formatting this hard drive in the HFS+ (journaled) 
> format doesn’t work at all for Windows. I know that Mac’s can interact with 
> hard drives formatted to NTFS in a read-only state, yet can’t write to them. 
> I further understand that there is some program which changes this. What 
> would be the monetary expenditure (if any) required for the procurement of 
> such a program—and, upon acquiring the program, are there any special 
> instructions that accompany it (NTFS-3g) or is the use of that program 
> straight forward and transparent to the operating system? Any help would be 
> greedily received and the person giving it indiscriminately unacknowledged 
> and cruely dismissed…
> Just joking, it’s just that the phrase “greatly appreciated” is overused and 
> is beginning to sound tired and bland. Although any help would be received 
> with humble gratitude (too cheesy)?
> I would appreciate any advice on this matter and apologize if this topic has 
> already been covered; due to the enormous amount of messages this list 
> generates, I tend to move them all to another folder and searching them can 
> be tiresome.
> Sincerely,
> Robert Hooper
> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
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Re: jumping to next line of text with voiceover?

[Mike Arrigo]

One way to get past this is to go to the next heading, I always try that first, 
and if that doesn't work, try VO command n to go to the next auto web spot.
On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Blake Hardin wrote:

> Hi, yeah im just talking about being on the web. Say for example i
> want to  skip past all the links to the next block of text your saying
> i can't do that? So i have to go through all the links and stuff to
> find the next line of text? This would be helpfull when reading a
> forum or something or comments on youtube videos
> 
> On 10/3/10, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> There is no way to move forward and back a line at a time when doing a
>> continuous read. I thought you meant that when you stop reading, your cursor
>> is close to the last thing spoken. That wrks in a word processor if you
>> interact with the text first. On the web, there really is no concept of
>> lines the way the windows screen readers think of them, you move by item.
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> I just tried what I understood you to say would work with voice over and
>>> it did not. That is, while interacting with a block of text I did a vo
>>> plus a to start reading, then I hit first the right arrow key, which
>>> stopped speech, then the restart of the continuous read followed by down
>>> arrow, which also stopped speech. So I am apparently not understanding
>>> what it is you say you can do with VO while interacting with a block of
>>> text, that resembles the results you get while doing a continuous read
>>> with aWindows screen reader, where it is possible to move forward or back
>>> a line and not have to restart the continuous reading.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: Navigating mail and Safari

[Sarah Alawami]

Sorry. Unless I'm wrong all of your answers will be no. vo does lay out the 
webpage the way a sighted user sees it on the  screen making it easy for 
explanations if possible.

You can always use the track pad if you have one and flick and double tap thus 
sort of freeing up a hand.

Good luck.
Sarah Alawami
MSN: marri...@gmail.com 
aim: marri...@gmail.com:

website: http://music.marrie.org
face book: facebook.com/marrie
youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/

The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. 

On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> Hello, everyone.  I am Linda Adams, a very new and inexperienced user of an 
> Apple Snow Leopard 10.6.  I have been a Windoes user for ten years, and now
> I am experimenting to see if the Apple Snow Leopard will be comfortably 
> accessible. 
>  
> My computer technician friend has been worried for a while about the
> increasing security problems with Windows computers and is wanting me to 
> switch to Apple.  I would be very interested to hear from former Windows users
> regarding what benefits they experience with Apple versus the Windows PC 
> computer.
> On a more specific note, is there anything that I can set in System 
> Preferences or VoiceOver Utility to get rid of the table view in Mail and 
> switch it
> to a list view so that there aren't as many navigation steps to go through to 
> read messages?
> Are there settings that I can do to allow me to read a website line by line 
> from the top of the page to the bottom in Safari?  I like to go to catalog 
> websites
> such as LL Bean or The Vermont Country Store where there are plain text 
> descriptions of every product below that product link.  I want to see the web 
> pages
> as they really are rather than just being shown links, headers, or other such 
> element groups.
> My hands are quite small.  Is it possible to change settings so that not as 
> many keys need to be pressed at a time to perform functions?  I know about 
> Quick Nav and locking the VoiceOver keys, but the VoiceOver keys often need 
> to be unlocked to perform other commands.  
> Thank you for any advice and help that you can give me.  I have three friends 
> counting on me to tell them whether Apple would be good to switch to or not.
> 
> Linda Adams
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Re: XCode compile.

[Jude DaShiell]

Once you install the xcode and the appbuilder packages from your snow 
leopard disk, start looking inside the /developer/ tree.On Fri, 1 Oct 
2010, GEOFF WAALER wrote:



Greetings,

I wanted to compile a "helloWorld" program in either objective C or C++ and 
apparently am not looking in the right place for for instructions on getting started.

The developer site indicates that XCode is included with Snow Leopard, however 
I don't see it recursing into the application or library folders.  I did see 
folders for sample scripts and a few programming languages in the library 
folder, but am giving up and thought I'd ask here for help getting going with 
XCode.

TIA for any pointers.
Geoff

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Re: Not able to sign into itunes

[Jude DaShiell]

Don't hit enter, hit tab onto okay field then hit space and see if that 
works.  Why itunes should be going into busy mode like that even under 
these circumstances though for me is a puzzle.  If you can get to a local 
mac users group meeting you may get lots more support there.  Have you got 
a working mouse and monitor hooked up to the computer too?  Could be a 
missing mouse may freak itunes out.On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Antonio M 
Guimaraes Jr. wrote:



I am trying t upgrade my iphone for the fist time, and it requires itunes. I am 
using itunes on a new Mac mini, but I need to perform several operations before 
I can upgrade the iPhone.

These include signing into itunes, aothorizing my computer, and playing a song 
or video I purchased from itunes

The issue is signing in. itunes keeps going into busy mode after I enter the 
password, and press enter. This keeps happening until I am forced to shut the 
program down.

Is there a known issue with itunes, and a solution, or do I need to do 
something different for thingsg to work?

Sincerely,

Antonio Guimaraes

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Navigating mail and Safari

[Linda Adams]

Hello, everyone.  I am Linda Adams, a very new and inexperienced user of an 
Apple Snow Leopard 10.6.  I have been a Windoes user for ten years, and now
I am experimenting to see if the Apple Snow Leopard will be comfortably 
accessible.  

My computer technician friend has been worried for a while about the
increasing security problems with Windows computers and is wanting me to switch 
to Apple.  I would be very interested to hear from former Windows users
regarding what benefits they experience with Apple versus the Windows PC 
computer.

On a more specific note, is there anything that I can set in System Preferences 
or VoiceOver Utility to get rid of the table view in Mail and switch it
to a list view so that there aren't as many navigation steps to go through to 
read messages?
Are there settings that I can do to allow me to read a website line by line 
from the top of the page to the bottom in Safari?  I like to go to catalog 
websites
such as LL Bean or The Vermont Country Store where there are plain text 
descriptions of every product below that product link.  I want to see the web 
pages
as they really are rather than just being shown links, headers, or other such 
element groups.
My hands are quite small.  Is it possible to change settings so that not as 
many keys need to be pressed at a time to perform functions?  I know about 
Quick Nav and locking the VoiceOver keys, but the VoiceOver keys often need to 
be unlocked to perform other commands.  

Thank you for any advice and help that you can give me.  I have three friends 
counting on me to tell them whether Apple would be good to switch to or not.

Linda Adams

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Re: Washington Post articles?

[Jude DaShiell]

The link I put in here is broken.  To fix it remember the last word in the 
link is distribution and you'll get there okay.On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Colin M 
wrote:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/rss/index.html?hpid=distrib
  ution


Hi Jonathan!
Here I am in little UK!
I opened the Washington post link from your part of this message!
Then clicked metro, Vinginer polictics and got to the page ok!
But when I clicked the link that starts voices of... it took me to the 
Washington post site and said something about that page was no longer there or 
has change it's name!
When I was on the Virginer politics page I opened the web router on links typed 
v and no links started with voices!
hth Colin
On 4 Oct 2010, at 00:33, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


I am currently having problems in both webkit and Safari with the Washington 
Post web site.

from http://washingtonpost.com
I click on "Metro" and then "Virginia POlitics"

The site which I believe is
voices.washingtonpost.com/VirginiaPolitics never fully load.  Before reporting 
this to Apple and/or Washington Post, could somebody else see if this site 
works for them?

I had no issues earlier this week, but I have changed a couple of settings 
within my Post login.  So I am curious if it is the site in general or my 
changes.

Best regards,

Jon

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Re: Safari frusterations!

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

You may consider hitting Option-Command-F to go to the search field. This 
applies to other applications with search fields such as iTunes or Mail.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> I am regularily switching between webkit and safari, often use google
> and have never seen these problems.  Though I have to admit generally,
> for doing searchs on my Mac, I type command-l and then hit tab and
> enter my search terms.  This avoids opening a web page to just fill in
> a form.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On 04/10/2010, carlene knight  wrote:
>> Well, it opens ok, but when you put a search quarry in and hit return or
>> Vo/spacebar on the search button, the problem begins.  Vo will constantly
>> restart.  Yes, I am using Safari.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> Let me guess, you're not using Webkit. That'd explain why your Safari
>>> crashes, although I don't even seem to have that problem when using the
>>> regular Safari which is pretty interesting. I didn't even know the current
>>> site was inaccessible, so to speak.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> 
 That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just
 used some of those a few minutes ago.
 On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote:
 
> The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps
> restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work
> fine.  I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill
> out a form.  That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari.
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is
>> doable, but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with
>> the VO keys to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email
>> the web master and ask them to use something more accessible, using
>> mouse over events can cause problems for any screen reader.
>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
>>> finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely
>>> grasp
>>> voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part
>>> I
>>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work
>>> and
>>> university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
>>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and
>>> very
>>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely
>>> crazy.
>>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just
>>> by
>>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
>>> displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was
>>> solid.
>>> This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring
>>> even
>>> in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not
>>> function
>>> properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
>>> frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
>>> processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details
>>> right
>>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
>>> stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design
>>> and
>>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and
>>> mysticism that
>>> many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware
>>> just as
>>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and
>>> I
>>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
>>> intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Scott
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Re: Safari frusterations!

[Jonathan Cohn]

 I am regularily switching between webkit and safari, often use google
and have never seen these problems.  Though I have to admit generally,
for doing searchs on my Mac, I type command-l and then hit tab and
enter my search terms.  This avoids opening a web page to just fill in
a form.

Best regards,

Jon


On 04/10/2010, carlene knight  wrote:
> Well, it opens ok, but when you put a search quarry in and hit return or
> Vo/spacebar on the search button, the problem begins.  Vo will constantly
> restart.  Yes, I am using Safari.
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Let me guess, you're not using Webkit. That'd explain why your Safari
>> crashes, although I don't even seem to have that problem when using the
>> regular Safari which is pretty interesting. I didn't even know the current
>> site was inaccessible, so to speak.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>
>>> That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just
>>> used some of those a few minutes ago.
>>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>
 The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps
 restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work
 fine.  I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill
 out a form.  That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari.


 On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is
> doable, but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with
> the VO keys to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email
> the web master and ask them to use something more accessible, using
> mouse over events can cause problems for any screen reader.
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>  I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
>> finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely
>> grasp
>> voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part
>> I
>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work
>> and
>> university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and
>> very
>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely
>> crazy.
>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just
>> by
>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
>> displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was
>> solid.
>> This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring
>> even
>> in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not
>> function
>> properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
>> frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
>> processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details
>> right
>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
>> stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design
>> and
>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and
>> mysticism that
>> many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware
>> just as
>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and
>> I
>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
>> intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
>> Sincerely,
>> Scott
>>
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Too bad, I thought perhaps I would go and by a D-Link and see a whole
new world through my very slow and firewall blocked hotel's "Internet"
connections.

Not  only do they block IMAP, they also block the chat protocol that
Google  and facebook use.  That's OK, my neighbor has file sharing
turned on, and I can wlook at all kinds of interesting things.Sure
am glad that I keep my systems secure though...

Jon



On 04/10/2010, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> That's interesting.  At first my husband and I both thought we were
> imagining it because the router was new. So we actually sat around
> downloading videos and stuff, to see if it was really true.  Good to know we
> weren't hallucinating. :)
> Donna
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
>> That's exactly what you should expect to see.  That's what I mean by
>> forwarding rate.  Your Dlink forwards or passes the packets from the
>> inside or where your computer is to the outsid or where your connection to
>> your provider is faster than the equivalent linksys.  This has everything
>> to do with the port design, backplain processing and actual routing
>> engine.  The difference is so great it's like buying a whole new faster
>> higher priced service but with out spending the cash with the carrier.
>> I've had several small clients who i moved over and they all had the same
>> experience.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know, I've heard the exact same thing about Linksys.  And I will
>>> say that the download speed with the dlink seems noticeably faster.
>>> Donna
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>
 Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router
 over a DLink any day of the week.
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Donna,
>
> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on
> to
> the device.
> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys
> device.
> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their
> interface was
> never overly great.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>
> Hi all,
>
> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a
> D-Link
> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't
> seem
> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Adium has new window

[Sarah Alawami]

You will know as you will hear the sound of a new event. what ever your sound 
skeem is set to.

S
On Oct 4, 2010, at 11:33 AM, patricia solis wrote:

> Hi,
> I tried  vof2 twice and that didn't work. Adium keeps saying the same thing. 
> I also went to  system  preferences  and speech is selected as my default 
> style. Also I only have 3  events speaking. once there  is an event.  Now my 
> question is if i turn off  the Growl notifications will I know when  a new  
> chatt window opens? Maybe will just turn off the Growlnotifications and see 
> if that will  make it stop saying adium has a new window.
> 
> thanks for all your  help.
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Donna Goodin]

That's interesting.  At first my husband and I both thought we were imagining 
it because the router was new. So we actually sat around downloading videos and 
stuff, to see if it was really true.  Good to know we weren't hallucinating. :)
Donna
On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> That's exactly what you should expect to see.  That's what I mean by 
> forwarding rate.  Your Dlink forwards or passes the packets from the inside 
> or where your computer is to the outsid or where your connection to your 
> provider is faster than the equivalent linksys.  This has everything to do 
> with the port design, backplain processing and actual routing engine.  The 
> difference is so great it's like buying a whole new faster higher priced 
> service but with out spending the cash with the carrier.  I've had several 
> small clients who i moved over and they all had the same experience.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I don't know, I've heard the exact same thing about Linksys.  And I will say 
>> that the download speed with the dlink seems noticeably faster.
>> Donna
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over 
>>> a DLink any day of the week.
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
 Donna,
 
 Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
 the device. 
 But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
 I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface 
 was
 never overly great.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
 
 Hi all,
 
 Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
 extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't 
 seem
 to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
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Re: help with a website please

[Carolyn]

Hi Colin:
Well, thanks.  I knew some of it, but I've just spent the whole morning with 
this site, and the only way to find the ads is with the roter, but then the 
items aren't showing.  Even when I set it to category, I'm getting absolutely 
nowhere.  I've finally gone back to my poor old faithful Dell:) and already 
accomplished signing in and finding my list.  Chalk one botched up for Apple:)
Anyhow, thank you for following up.
Take care
Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin M 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Colin M 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: help with a website please


  Hi Carolyn!
  I see from your last message you are having lessons!
  So just in case you do not know about the web rotor, you access it with the 
command vo+u
  If you already know about it!
  You can ignore this next bit!
  When the rotor is open it might be on links, if it is you can left arrow to 
the headings table, if the weekly ads have a heading you can either down arrow 
to it or type w or more of the word weekly and that should take you to that 
heading!
  When you are on the heading in the rotor vo+space bar, that will take you to 
the heading itself!
  And you should be able to navigate from there!
  alternatively if you know the product you want, on the rotor in the links 
table [ say it's beef  ] it might have it's own link so type beef and that will 
narrow down the links to those with something to do with beef!
  Or what you are searching for!
  Then like before just vo+space bar, you'll be on that items link then and if 
you want it vo+space bar again!
  hth Colin
  Sorry if you knew this already! :]

  On 4 Oct 2010, at 15:38, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi Colin: and Anne
Well, thank you for trying anyhow.  

 I'll experiment more with this today after a little more coffee:)


  Can;t get to my Apple training today due to an ear infection.  So, 
perhaps I'm whim ping out early here:)


Take care


carolynOn Oct 4, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Colin M wrote:


  Hi Carolyn!
  I'm unfortunately in the Uk!
  I'm using dom mode and can navigate that site ok!
  But as you can imagine my local store might be a little further than 50 
miles :]
  I can get to the account set up page, and when I clicked on weekly ads 
that's when I got asked for my address to find my local store!
  Oh well I'll have to move to the USA Hahahahaha
  But the main thing is I could navigate ok with a keyboard.
  I don't know if this has been any help!
  Colin

  On 4 Oct 2010, at 13:38, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi Sarah:
Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to 
continue the challenge of course:)
Thanks


Carolyn

On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


  I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button 
you need to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got 
but hopefully that sort of helps.

  On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:






Begin forwarded message:


  From: Carolyn Haas 

  Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

  Subject: help with a website please



  Hi guys:
  I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly 
ads, etc.  I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with 
JFW and my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to behave 
properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign in.  
I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from trackpad or 
from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so confounded or how 
to best work with it.  
  Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
sourceho...@gmail.com

  Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my 
BFF, (stolen from my daughter:)

  Thanks

  Carolyn




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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, cool!  thanks, Scott.
Donna
On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Donna, your DLink does the same thing.  I forget what the default name is 
> it's either dlink or dlink-gw or dlinkrouter something like that.  Since the 
> router provides your DNS for you they just inject a name with the routers IP 
> in to your dns requests that the device proxies.
> 
> You can set this name to what ever you want by adjusting the host name field 
> in the main settings page for network.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Oh, wow, the netgear thing sounds cool.  And yes, that is the link for the 
>> dlink router, found out from a friend who also has that router.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Chris G wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it's 192.168.0.1 to access dlink routers.
>>> 
>>> Netgear routers are pretty cool, you go to "routerlogin.net" and it
>>> takes you there.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 05:07:23 -0400
>>> Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> 
 Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router 
 over a DLink any day of the week.
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 
> Donna,
> 
> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
> the device. 
> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface 
> was
> never overly great.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't 
> seem
> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Adium has new window

[patricia solis]

Hi,
I tried  vof2 twice and that didn't work. Adium keeps saying the same thing. I 
also went to  system  preferences  and speech is selected as my default style. 
Also I only have 3  events speaking. once there  is an event.  Now my question 
is if i turn off  the Growl notifications will I know when  a new  chatt window 
opens? Maybe will just turn off the Growlnotifications and see if that will  
make it stop saying adium has a new window.
 
thanks for all your  help.

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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Granados]

Donna, your DLink does the same thing.  I forget what the default name is it's 
either dlink or dlink-gw or dlinkrouter something like that.  Since the router 
provides your DNS for you they just inject a name with the routers IP in to 
your dns requests that the device proxies.

You can set this name to what ever you want by adjusting the host name field in 
the main settings page for network.

Hope that helps.


On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Oh, wow, the netgear thing sounds cool.  And yes, that is the link for the 
> dlink router, found out from a friend who also has that router.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Chris G wrote:
> 
>> I think it's 192.168.0.1 to access dlink routers.
>> 
>> Netgear routers are pretty cool, you go to "routerlogin.net" and it
>> takes you there.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 05:07:23 -0400
>> Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over 
>>> a DLink any day of the week.
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
 Donna,
 
 Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
 the device. 
 But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
 I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface 
 was
 never overly great.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
 
 Hi all,
 
 Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
 extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't 
 seem
 to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
 router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Granados]

That's exactly what you should expect to see.  That's what I mean by forwarding 
rate.  Your Dlink forwards or passes the packets from the inside or where your 
computer is to the outsid or where your connection to your provider is faster 
than the equivalent linksys.  This has everything to do with the port design, 
backplain processing and actual routing engine.  The difference is so great 
it's like buying a whole new faster higher priced service but with out spending 
the cash with the carrier.  I've had several small clients who i moved over and 
they all had the same experience.

Thanks
Scott

On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I don't know, I've heard the exact same thing about Linksys.  And I will say 
> that the download speed with the dlink seems noticeably faster.
> Donna
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over 
>> a DLink any day of the week.
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
>>> the device. 
>>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
>>> never overly great.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
>>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
>>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
>>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: help with a website please

[Sarah Alawami]

No as there are no stores in my area but it looks pretty easy to use.

S
On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Sarah:
> Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to continue the 
> challenge of course:)
> Thanks
> 
> Carolyn
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button you 
>> need to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got but 
>> hopefully that sort of helps.
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Carolyn Haas 
 Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: help with a website please
 
 Hi guys:
 I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, etc. 
  I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with JFW 
 and my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to behave 
 properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
 kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign 
 in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from 
 trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so 
 confounded or how to best work with it.  
 Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
 sourceho...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
 (stolen from my daughter:)
 
 Thanks
 
 Carolyn
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Scott.  Haven't had a chance to try it yet, will do this afternoon.
Donna
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Donna, D-Link uses
> http://192.168.0.1 as the default.
> 
> try that if not do the following
> 
> from your command prompt do an 
> ipconfig /all | more
> read down until you see your specific device that's connected and look for 
> the gateway address, should be 192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x.  Then browse to that 
> address.
> 
> Also try https192.168.0.1 or what ever your gateway address is.  I believe 
> d-Link supports ssl now.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link 
>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem 
>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link 
>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, wow, the netgear thing sounds cool.  And yes, that is the link for the 
dlink router, found out from a friend who also has that router.
Best,
Donna
On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Chris G wrote:

> I think it's 192.168.0.1 to access dlink routers.
> 
> Netgear routers are pretty cool, you go to "routerlogin.net" and it
> takes you there.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 05:07:23 -0400
> Scott Howell  wrote:
> 
>> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over 
>> a DLink any day of the week.
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
>>> the device. 
>>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
>>> never overly great.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
>>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
>>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
>>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Donna Goodin]

I don't know, I've heard the exact same thing about Linksys.  And I will say 
that the download speed with the dlink seems noticeably faster.
Donna
On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over a 
> DLink any day of the week.
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
>> the device. 
>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
>> never overly great.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Safari frusterations!

[carlene knight]

Well, it opens ok, but when you put a search quarry in and hit return or 
Vo/spacebar on the search button, the problem begins.  Vo will constantly 
restart.  Yes, I am using Safari.


On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Let me guess, you're not using Webkit. That'd explain why your Safari 
> crashes, although I don't even seem to have that problem when using the 
> regular Safari which is pretty interesting. I didn't even know the current 
> site was inaccessible, so to speak.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just used 
>> some of those a few minutes ago.
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>> 
>>> The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps 
>>> restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work 
>>> fine.  I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill out 
>>> a form.  That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> 
 Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is doable, 
 but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with the VO keys 
 to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email the web master 
 and ask them to use something more accessible, using mouse over events can 
 cause problems for any screen reader.
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
> Hello everyone,
>   I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
> finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely 
> grasp
> voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part I
> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and
> university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
> information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and 
> very
> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy.
> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by
> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
> displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid.
> This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring 
> even
> in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not function
> properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
> frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
> processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details right
> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
> stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design and
> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism 
> that
> many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware just 
> as
> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and I
> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
> intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
> Sincerely,
> Scott
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Re: Adium has new window

[Colin M]

Hi Nic!
No a fence to others but I think you might be the list's authority on Growl!
You've helped me with this thank's!
Colin
On 4 Oct 2010, at 14:31, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hello Patricia!
> 
> This is usually due to Growl. You can choose to either change Growl to the 
> "Speech" display style in System Preferences>Growl>Display Tab, then find the 
> popup for the default style and select "Speech".
> 
> If you do not want all those events to speak as it does get quite chatty, you 
> can go to Adium Preferences (Command-Comma), navigate to the "Events" button 
> in the toolbar and select the event you would like to add an action to, edit 
> or remove. You do this by expanding the event within the table. You can then 
> display the individual actions for the various events present, then hit 
> "Delete" and replace it with another event such as "Speak event".
> 
> You can also just elect to turn off notifications for Adium in Growl, though 
> you may want to get rid of the Growl events in this case if you do not change 
> the display style. DO this by going into System 
> Preferences>Growl>Applications tab, then find the table. Uncheck the box next 
> to Adium. You can also Stop Growl from the General tab and uncheck the box so 
> it does not start at login.
> 
> Hope this helps. Good luck!
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Patricia!
>> I haven't had this on adium yet myself!
>> But in Skype when I go from the main page to the chat window I get the 
>> message [ Skype has new window ]
>> So could this be the same for you, I'm guessing but it might be you are 
>> already in that new window!
>> Does this happen after you've selected a new chat or something!
>> hth Colin
>> On 4 Oct 2010, at 00:44, patricia solis wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Adium keeps saying Adium has a new window. How do I open this new window?
>>> thanks Patricia
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Re: help with a website please

[Colin M]

Hi Carolyn!
I see from your last message you are having lessons!
So just in case you do not know about the web rotor, you access it with the 
command vo+u
If you already know about it!
You can ignore this next bit!
When the rotor is open it might be on links, if it is you can left arrow to the 
headings table, if the weekly ads have a heading you can either down arrow to 
it or type w or more of the word weekly and that should take you to that 
heading!
When you are on the heading in the rotor vo+space bar, that will take you to 
the heading itself!
And you should be able to navigate from there!
alternatively if you know the product you want, on the rotor in the links table 
[ say it's beef  ] it might have it's own link so type beef and that will 
narrow down the links to those with something to do with beef!
Or what you are searching for!
Then like before just vo+space bar, you'll be on that items link then and if 
you want it vo+space bar again!
hth Colin
Sorry if you knew this already! :]
On 4 Oct 2010, at 15:38, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Colin: and Anne
> Well, thank you for trying anyhow.  
>  I'll experiment more with this today after a little more coffee:)
> 
>   Can;t get to my Apple training today due to an ear infection.  So, perhaps 
> I'm whim ping out early here:)
> 
> Take care
> 
> carolynOn Oct 4, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carolyn!
>> I'm unfortunately in the Uk!
>> I'm using dom mode and can navigate that site ok!
>> But as you can imagine my local store might be a little further than 50 
>> miles :]
>> I can get to the account set up page, and when I clicked on weekly ads 
>> that's when I got asked for my address to find my local store!
>> Oh well I'll have to move to the USA Hahahahaha
>> But the main thing is I could navigate ok with a keyboard.
>> I don't know if this has been any help!
>> Colin
>> On 4 Oct 2010, at 13:38, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah:
>>> Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to continue 
>>> the challenge of course:)
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Carolyn
>>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button you 
 need to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got 
 but hopefully that sort of helps.
 On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Carolyn Haas 
>> Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: help with a website please
>> 
>> Hi guys:
>> I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, 
>> etc.  I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse 
>> with JFW and my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get 
>> anything to behave properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you 
>> please check out kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, 
>> create account, or sign in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom 
>> mode, tried working from trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much 
>> clueless why this site is so confounded or how to best work with it.  
>> Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
>> sourceho...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
>> (stolen from my daughter:)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Carolyn
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Granados]

It's true.

I think the Cisco take over of Linksys adversely impacted the quality of the 
products.  Cisco tends to offer products that don't offer wire rate speeds and 
end up having some forwarding rate that's a fraction of the available 
bandwidth.  Cheap processors and bad code.  The devices, especially older 
vintage do well with 3rd party firmware that allows you to undo a lot of their 
limitations.  For example, using a wrt54G and tomato or dd-wrt firmware you can 
boost the radio output greatly, increase the clock rate, impliment working QOS, 
and in general undoa lot of the problems you run in to with a stock unit.  
D-Link had one code rev with capcha enabled and that negatively impacted the 
perception of their gear in our circles.  To bad too because I and a few others 
as well as sited folks for other reasons pointed out this was a bad idea and in 
all future releases this feature is disabled by default so not a show stopper.  
Seems to happen to all companies though, their quality changes over their 
histories.  Everything I can think of this has done this whether it's Dell or 
the old Gateway, they start out great and slowly decline.  One reason I like 
apple, they work so hard to keep the quality up and the support to back it up 
is superior.

On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Really, that is interesting. I have an old Linksys I keep here as a backup 
> and it served me well until I switched to Apple routers. Cisco must have sold 
> off or farmed out development for their routers lately. DLink was not the 
> recommended router a few years ago. Funny how manufacturers swap places in 
> the rankings from time to time.
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Do * not * buy anything linksys!
>> 
>> They are knock off cisco products and have al the problems inharent in that.
>> 
>> They do not forward at line rate, do not have stable radios and have serious 
>> under processing problems.  They also have squirrely results when left on 
>> for a long period of time.
>> 
>> D-Link was definitely the right choice.  Oh and the QOS isn't broken on a 
>> D-Link extreme like it is on the Linksys.  Linksys products don't 
>> appropriately classify or tag traffic for QOS calculations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
>>> the device. 
>>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
>>> never overly great.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
>>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
>>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
>>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Howell]

Really, that is interesting. I have an old Linksys I keep here as a backup and 
it served me well until I switched to Apple routers. Cisco must have sold off 
or farmed out development for their routers lately. DLink was not the 
recommended router a few years ago. Funny how manufacturers swap places in the 
rankings from time to time.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Do * not * buy anything linksys!
> 
> They are knock off cisco products and have al the problems inharent in that.
> 
> They do not forward at line rate, do not have stable radios and have serious 
> under processing problems.  They also have squirrely results when left on for 
> a long period of time.
> 
> D-Link was definitely the right choice.  Oh and the QOS isn't broken on a 
> D-Link extreme like it is on the Linksys.  Linksys products don't 
> appropriately classify or tag traffic for QOS calculations.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
>> the device. 
>> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
>> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
>> never overly great.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
>> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
>> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
>> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: XCode compile.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Did you buy Snow Leopard as an upgrade, or did it come with yuour
computer?  When upgrading from Leopard to Snow Leopard, the DVD
install does not install the Developer package including XCode and App
Builder.  But if you insert the DVD in the slot after upgrading, then
you will find an installer for the developer system.  I don't recall
getting a DVD with my new MacBook, so I am not sure what the process
is in that case.

Best wishes,

Jon


On 01/10/2010, Scott Granados  wrote:
> You can also check out GCC and the associated tools.  There are Mac ports
> and they are pretty much the standard in the *nix world.
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:21 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I wanted to compile a "helloWorld" program in either objective C or C++
>> and apparently am not looking in the right place for for instructions on
>> getting started.
>>
>> The developer site indicates that XCode is included with Snow Leopard,
>> however I don't see it recursing into the application or library folders.
>> I did see folders for sample scripts and a few programming languages in
>> the library folder, but am giving up and thought I'd ask here for help
>> getting going with XCode.
>>
>> TIA for any pointers.
>> Geoff
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Re: to nicolai

[Isaac Obie]

Hi Ester,
I saw the message "security help" then I tabbed once and the message eventually 
showed up after all that jazz about digitally signed messages. Thanks!
Isaac who'd never seen this!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: to nicolai


  Hi Isaac,


  It sounds as though you can't read the messages that Nic started sending with 
certification.  These show up in my mailbox with an extra heading after "Reply 
to:" for his security certificate that says "Signed" with his email address.  
If I read his mail on my iPod Touch of iPad I'm not aware of the security 
certificate, but I can view this in the headings under Apple Mail if I choose 
to examine this on my Mac.


  HTH.  Cheers,


  Esther


  On Oct 4, 2010, at 03:55, ISAAC OBIE wrote:


Nicolai,
Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this 
am.
thanks.
Isaac





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Re: to nicolai

[Isaac Obie]

Hi Ester,
When I open the mail, all I see is a blank line and a cursor. I am not reading 
this with the Mac! I am reading it with Outlook Express windows xp. So what do 
I do? Thanks.
Isaac
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  From: Esther 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: to nicolai


  Hi Isaac,


  It sounds as though you can't read the messages that Nic started sending with 
certification.  These show up in my mailbox with an extra heading after "Reply 
to:" for his security certificate that says "Signed" with his email address.  
If I read his mail on my iPod Touch of iPad I'm not aware of the security 
certificate, but I can view this in the headings under Apple Mail if I choose 
to examine this on my Mac.


  HTH.  Cheers,


  Esther


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Nicolai,
Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this 
am.
thanks.
Isaac





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Re: java in safari on or off for different sites

[Claus Thøgersen]

Hi,

Yes I mean Java, that is turning Java off solved the problem I have on these 
2 danish sites

www.dr.dk
www.jp.dk

With Java enabled the pages never really load, but when it is turned off I 
have no problems.
For other users it works fine, so it is a similar situation to google.com 
that I can use as my startup page in Safari but others report many problems 
with google.
Something in the VO/safari combination is not very stable currently, I hope 
Apple are aware of what is going on.


As far as I know there are no real java applications on these pages, I can 
only describe how I found a solution to the problem.
To make it even more strange, on theDanish Library for the blind, I am 
testing downloads of daisy books. In order to get the download to work I had 
to enable java.  So now I have some services that requires java and other 
sites that require I turn java off.


Claus

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: java in safari on or off for different sites


You should not have to disable java for pages to work, this could indicate a 
problem with something else. Are you talking about java itself or java 
script, they are 2 different things. Many pages use java script, but very 
few pages that I know of actually use java, as in a java application.

On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Claus Thøgersen wrote:


Hi,

I have a strange problem with Java in Safari.
On some pages I need to have java enabled in order to use the page.
However if Java is enabled I have other pages that will not work, Safari 
just seems to try to load the page without success.

the problem on these pages is solved by disabling java.
Is there a java setting I can change to make java work on all sites, or a 
way to enable java on specific sites?


I have no English language pages where I have the problem with java 
enabled, and other Danish users have no problems on the pages that I 
cannot access with java enabled, very strange!


Claus

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Re: to nicolai

[Esther]

Hi Isaac,

It sounds as though you can't read the messages that Nic started  
sending with certification.  These show up in my mailbox with an extra  
heading after "Reply to:" for his security certificate that says  
"Signed" with his email address.  If I read his mail on my iPod Touch  
of iPad I'm not aware of the security certificate, but I can view this  
in the headings under Apple Mail if I choose to examine this on my Mac.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Nicolai,
Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several  
times this am.

thanks.
Isaac



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Orders to my Mac in Spanish? ...

[marcelo]

Can I dictate orders to my Mac OS X in Spanish? ...

thanks.

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Re: java in safari on or off for different sites

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Claus,

I think you must have some serious corruption on one or more files relating to 
Safari. My best suggestion would be to apply the combo update to OS X 10.6.4. 
Using the combo update can often fixe a lot of spurious problems.

Here's a link to the download:


Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Oct 2010, at 12:38, Claus Thøgersen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes I mean Java, that is turning Java off solved the problem I have on these 
> 2 danish sites
> www.dr.dk
> www.jp.dk
> 
> With Java enabled the pages never really load, but when it is turned off I 
> have no problems.
> For other users it works fine, so it is a similar situation to google.com 
> that I can use as my startup page in Safari but others report many problems 
> with google.
> Something in the VO/safari combination is not very stable currently, I hope 
> Apple are aware of what is going on.
> 
> As far as I know there are no real java applications on these pages, I can 
> only describe how I found a solution to the problem.
> To make it even more strange, on theDanish Library for the blind, I am 
> testing downloads of daisy books. In order to get the download to work I had 
> to enable java.  So now I have some services that requires java and other 
> sites that require I turn java off.
> 
> Claus
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:42 AM
> Subject: Re: java in safari on or off for different sites
> 
> 
> You should not have to disable java for pages to work, this could indicate a 
> problem with something else. Are you talking about java itself or java 
> script, they are 2 different things. Many pages use java script, but very few 
> pages that I know of actually use java, as in a java application.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Claus Thøgersen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a strange problem with Java in Safari.
>> On some pages I need to have java enabled in order to use the page.
>> However if Java is enabled I have other pages that will not work, Safari 
>> just seems to try to load the page without success.
>> the problem on these pages is solved by disabling java.
>> Is there a java setting I can change to make java work on all sites, or a 
>> way to enable java on specific sites?
>> 
>> I have no English language pages where I have the problem with java enabled, 
>> and other Danish users have no problems on the pages that I cannot access 
>> with java enabled, very strange!
>> 
>> Claus
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Re: help with a website please

[Carolyn Haas]

Hi Colin: and Anne
Well, thank you for trying anyhow.  
 I'll experiment more with this today after a little more coffee:)

  Can;t get to my Apple training today due to an ear infection.  So, perhaps 
I'm whimping out early here:)

Take care

carolynOn Oct 4, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Carolyn!
> I'm unfortunately in the Uk!
> I'm using dom mode and can navigate that site ok!
> But as you can imagine my local store might be a little further than 50 miles 
> :]
> I can get to the account set up page, and when I clicked on weekly ads that's 
> when I got asked for my address to find my local store!
> Oh well I'll have to move to the USA Hahahahaha
> But the main thing is I could navigate ok with a keyboard.
> I don't know if this has been any help!
> Colin
> On 4 Oct 2010, at 13:38, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah:
>> Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to continue the 
>> challenge of course:)
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Carolyn
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button you 
>>> need to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got 
>>> but hopefully that sort of helps.
>>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Carolyn Haas 
> Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: help with a website please
> 
> Hi guys:
> I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, 
> etc.  I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with 
> JFW and my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to 
> behave properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
> kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign 
> in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from 
> trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so 
> confounded or how to best work with it.  
> Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
> sourceho...@gmail.com
> 
> Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
> (stolen from my daughter:)
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: jumping to next line of text with voiceover?

[Anne Robertson]

Have you tried using Groups mode? Links tend to be grouped together, so you can 
skip a bunch of them at once by doing VO-Down arrow or just down arrow with 
Quick Nav on.

I use Groups mode most of the time, in fact, I only use DOM mode when I want to 
read through a fairly long article without stopping. The problem with reading a 
whole article in Groups mode is that it puts all the links within a group at 
the end of that group, making some paragraphs incomprehensible.

I have a keyboard commander shortcut set to switch between Groups and DOM mode.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Oct 2010, at 04:00, Blake Hardin wrote:

> Hi, yeah im just talking about being on the web. Say for example i
> want to  skip past all the links to the next block of text your saying
> i can't do that? So i have to go through all the links and stuff to
> find the next line of text? This would be helpfull when reading a
> forum or something or comments on youtube videos
> 
> On 10/3/10, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> There is no way to move forward and back a line at a time when doing a
>> continuous read. I thought you meant that when you stop reading, your cursor
>> is close to the last thing spoken. That wrks in a word processor if you
>> interact with the text first. On the web, there really is no concept of
>> lines the way the windows screen readers think of them, you move by item.
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> I just tried what I understood you to say would work with voice over and
>>> it did not. That is, while interacting with a block of text I did a vo
>>> plus a to start reading, then I hit first the right arrow key, which
>>> stopped speech, then the restart of the continuous read followed by down
>>> arrow, which also stopped speech. So I am apparently not understanding
>>> what it is you say you can do with VO while interacting with a block of
>>> text, that resembles the results you get while doing a continuous read
>>> with aWindows screen reader, where it is possible to move forward or back
>>> a line and not have to restart the continuous reading.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Granados]

Do * not * buy anything linksys!

They are knock off cisco products and have al the problems inharent in that.

They do not forward at line rate, do not have stable radios and have serious 
under processing problems.  They also have squirrely results when left on for a 
long period of time.

D-Link was definitely the right choice.  Oh and the QOS isn't broken on a 
D-Link extreme like it is on the Linksys.  Linksys products don't appropriately 
classify or tag traffic for QOS calculations.



On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Donna,
> 
> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
> the device. 
> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
> never overly great.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Adium has new window

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hello Patricia!

This is usually due to Growl. You can choose to either change Growl to the 
"Speech" display style in System Preferences>Growl>Display Tab, then find the 
popup for the default style and select "Speech".

If you do not want all those events to speak as it does get quite chatty, you 
can go to Adium Preferences (Command-Comma), navigate to the "Events" button in 
the toolbar and select the event you would like to add an action to, edit or 
remove. You do this by expanding the event within the table. You can then 
display the individual actions for the various events present, then hit 
"Delete" and replace it with another event such as "Speak event".

You can also just elect to turn off notifications for Adium in Growl, though 
you may want to get rid of the Growl events in this case if you do not change 
the display style. DO this by going into System Preferences>Growl>Applications 
tab, then find the table. Uncheck the box next to Adium. You can also Stop 
Growl from the General tab and uncheck the box so it does not start at login.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Regards,
Nic
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> Hi Patricia!
> I haven't had this on adium yet myself!
> But in Skype when I go from the main page to the chat window I get the 
> message [ Skype has new window ]
> So could this be the same for you, I'm guessing but it might be you are 
> already in that new window!
> Does this happen after you've selected a new chat or something!
> hth Colin
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Granados]

Donna, D-Link uses
http://192.168.0.1 as the default.

try that if not do the following

from your command prompt do an 
ipconfig /all | more
read down until you see your specific device that's connected and look for the 
gateway address, should be 192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x.  Then browse to that address.

Also try https192.168.0.1 or what ever your gateway address is.  I believe 
d-Link supports ssl now.

Hope that helps.

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> Hi all,
> 
> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link 
> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem 
> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link 
> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> Thanks,
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Re: any way to certufy mail using Apple Mail?

[Scott Granados]

Ray look for a plug in for something like PGP or GPP and you can add that 
functionality.  There may be a way to do this natively but PGP is very commonl 
used across many mail clients.

Thanks
Scott

On Oct 3, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> I mean to incript e-mail Using e-mail certificates.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> How do you mean certify email? I'm just a tad lost.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Subject line says it all.  How can one cerfify their e-mail using Apple 
>> Mail?  Or, is this even an issue with Macs?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Adium has new window

[Jonathan Cohn]

This usually happens when you are not in the application that opened a
new window.  If you use VO-F1 (twice) and then select Adium you should
hfind a window with a (new) appended to the end.  There might be a
possibility that the window is a "transient" window that disapears
after a couple of seconds. (you know Joshua has logged in ) perhaps.

Best wishes,

Jon


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> Hi Patricia!
> I haven't had this on adium yet myself!
> But in Skype when I go from the main page to the chat window I get the
> message [ Skype has new window ]
> So could this be the same for you, I'm guessing but it might be you are
> already in that new window!
> Does this happen after you've selected a new chat or something!
> hth Colin
> On 4 Oct 2010, at 00:44, patricia solis wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Adium keeps saying Adium has a new window. How do I open this new window?
>> thanks Patricia
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Re: any way to certufy mail using Apple Mail?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Thanks very much Nicolia.  That is exactly what I was looking for.

Exacatly!!!


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

E-Mail:
rforetjr at comcast dot net
Skype Name:
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On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi!

You can encrypt your e-mail securely via Apple Mail by obtaining a free 
security certificate. The steps are fairly easy, really, and all you have to do 
is to hit Command-O on the downloaded certificate.
http://www.instantssl.com/ssl-certificate-products/free-email-certificate.html

It will import the certificate into Keychain when opening the file, and that 
should be all you have to do. The steps outlined in the application are easy.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Subject line says it all.  How can one cerfify their e-mail using Apple Mail? 
>  Or, is this even an issue with Macs?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
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> 
> E-Mail:
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> Skype Name:
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Re: Washington Post articles?

[Colin M]

Hi Jonathan!
Here I am in little UK!
I opened the Washington post link from your part of this message!
Then clicked metro, Vinginer polictics and got to the page ok!
But when I clicked the link that starts voices of... it took me to the 
Washington post site and said something about that page was no longer there or 
has change it's name!
When I was on the Virginer politics page I opened the web router on links typed 
v and no links started with voices!
hth Colin
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> I am currently having problems in both webkit and Safari with the Washington 
> Post web site.
> 
> from http://washingtonpost.com 
> I click on "Metro" and then "Virginia POlitics"
> 
> The site which I believe is 
> voices.washingtonpost.com/VirginiaPolitics never fully load.  Before 
> reporting this to Apple and/or Washington Post, could somebody else see if 
> this site works for them?
> 
> I had no issues earlier this week, but I have changed a couple of settings 
> within my Post login.  So I am curious if it is the site in general or my 
> changes.
> 
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> 
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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Scott Howell]

Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over a 
DLink any day of the week.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Donna,
> 
> Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
> the device. 
> But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
> I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
> never overly great.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
> extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
> to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
> router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: any way to certufy mail using Apple Mail?

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

You can encrypt your e-mail securely via Apple Mail by obtaining a free 
security certificate. The steps are fairly easy, really, and all you have to do 
is to hit Command-O on the downloaded certificate.
http://www.instantssl.com/ssl-certificate-products/free-email-certificate.html

It will import the certificate into Keychain when opening the file, and that 
should be all you have to do. The steps outlined in the application are easy.

Regards,
Nic
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> Subject line says it all.  How can one cerfify their e-mail using Apple Mail? 
>  Or, is this even an issue with Macs?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
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> 
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Re: Adium has new window

[Colin M]

Hi Patricia!
I haven't had this on adium yet myself!
But in Skype when I go from the main page to the chat window I get the message 
[ Skype has new window ]
So could this be the same for you, I'm guessing but it might be you are already 
in that new window!
Does this happen after you've selected a new chat or something!
hth Colin
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Re: help with a website please

[Carolyn Haas]

Hi Sarah:
Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to continue the 
challenge of course:)
Thanks

Carolyn
On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button you need 
> to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got but 
> hopefully that sort of helps.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Carolyn Haas 
>>> Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: help with a website please
>>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, etc.  
>>> I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with JFW and 
>>> my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to behave 
>>> properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
>>> kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign 
>>> in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from 
>>> trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so 
>>> confounded or how to best work with it.  
>>> Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
>>> sourceho...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
>>> (stolen from my daughter:)
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Carolyn
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Re: help with a website please

[Colin M]

Hi Carolyn!
I'm unfortunately in the Uk!
I'm using dom mode and can navigate that site ok!
But as you can imagine my local store might be a little further than 50 miles :]
I can get to the account set up page, and when I clicked on weekly ads that's 
when I got asked for my address to find my local store!
Oh well I'll have to move to the USA Hahahahaha
But the main thing is I could navigate ok with a keyboard.
I don't know if this has been any help!
Colin
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> Hi Sarah:
> Can you actually get to and read the ads?  (only if you want to continue the 
> challenge of course:)
> Thanks
> 
> Carolyn
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I'm having no problems thus far. There is a long jpeg labeled button you 
>> need to hit after you hit the zipcode or address. That's as far as I got but 
>> hopefully that sort of helps.
>> On Oct 3, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Carolyn Haas 
 Date: October 3, 2010 7:47:21 PM MDT
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: help with a website please
 
 Hi guys:
 I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, etc. 
  I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with JFW 
 and my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to behave 
 properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
 kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign 
 in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from 
 trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so 
 confounded or how to best work with it.  
 Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
 sourceho...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
 (stolen from my daughter:)
 
 Thanks
 
 Carolyn
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Re: Adium has new window

[James Malone]

Hi. Once in Adium, hit VO f2 twice, and it will bring up a menu of windows. 
Then just arow down, and press enter on the window you want. It could be a chat 
message, or Growl could be sending in pop up notifications. If the window says 
something about a system alert, then Growl is probably set to bounce and pop up 
the notification window whenever an event has occured.
HTH, James.
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> Hi Patricia!
> I haven't had this on adium yet myself!
> But in Skype when I go from the main page to the chat window I get the 
> message [ Skype has new window ]
> So could this be the same for you, I'm guessing but it might be you are 
> already in that new window!
> Does this happen after you've selected a new chat or something!
> hth Colin
> On 4 Oct 2010, at 00:44, patricia solis wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Adium keeps saying Adium has a new window. How do I open this new window?
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RE: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Simon Fogarty]

Donna,

Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
the device. 
But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
never overly great.


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

Hi all,

Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
Thanks,
Donna

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[ISAAC OBIE]

Nicolai,
Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this am.
thanks.
Isaac

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Re: Safari frusterations!

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

Let me guess, you're not using Webkit. That'd explain why your Safari crashes, 
although I don't even seem to have that problem when using the regular Safari 
which is pretty interesting. I didn't even know the current site was 
inaccessible, so to speak.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> That's interesting, I've never had this issue with radio buttons, just used 
> some of those a few minutes ago.
> On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> 
>> The regular Google page doesn't work quite right as Voiceover keeps 
>> restarting, but the accessible Google site and the sttpgoogle sight work 
>> fine.  I have problems with radio buttons though if I am trying to fill out 
>> a form.  That's my biggest bugaboo with Safari.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> 
>>> Google works fine here, that site that ses the mouse over stuff is doable, 
>>> but you have to root the mouse to the element, then read with the VO keys 
>>> to see whathas changed, the best solution here is to email the web master 
>>> and ask them to use something more accessible, using mouse over events can 
>>> cause problems for any screen reader.
>>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
 finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely grasp
 voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part I
 cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and
 university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
 information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and very
 informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy.
 Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by
 clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
 displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid.
 This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring even
 in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not function
 properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
 frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
 processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details right
 now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
 stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design and
 form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism 
 that
 many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware just 
 as
 pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and I
 really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
 intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
 Sincerely,
 Scott
 
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Re: help with a website please

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Carolyn,

This website looks pretty straightforward to me. I use Groups mode and make 
extensive use of the Web Rotor and the Item Chooser.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Oct 2010, at 04:23, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> I've been trying to work with a website, to sign in, view weekly ads, etc.  
>> I am getting all of nowhere, and it's a site I normally peruse with JFW and 
>> my old kDell.  I want to use the mac, but can't get anything to behave 
>> properly.  If anyone likes a challenge, could you please check out 
>> kingsoopers.com?  See if you can view weekly ads, create account, or sign 
>> in.  I've tried using group mode, and then Dom mode, tried working from 
>> trackpad or from keyboard.  I'm pretty much clueless why this site is so 
>> confounded or how to best work with it.  
>> Any help would be much appreciated.  I can be reached at 
>> sourceho...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Thanks for reading.And to anyone who can be of help you'll be my BFF, 
>> (stolen from my daughter:)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Carolyn

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Re: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?

[Chris G]

I think it's 192.168.0.1 to access dlink routers.

Netgear routers are pretty cool, you go to "routerlogin.net" and it
takes you there.

Chris



On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 05:07:23 -0400
Scott Howell  wrote:

> Simon, I have to concur, I would go for the Linksys or an Apple router over a 
> DLink any day of the week.
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
> > Donna,
> > 
> > Have a look at your router or gateway ip address and use that to log on to
> > the device. 
> > But I'd say tak ethe the d-link device back and get a new Linksys device.
> > I"ve never found d-link to be much good for anything and their interface was
> > never overly great.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> > Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 10:23 a.m.
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: #ot configuring network settings with D-Link Extreme?
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Our linksys router broke this week, so we just replaced it with a D-Link
> > extreme.  But we're having a problem in that our network settings don't seem
> > to be sticking.  How does one go into the network settings for a D-link
> > router, the old httP;//192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work in this case.
> > Thanks,
> > Donna
> > 
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