Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7
I have never experienced what you describe. I am running iOS version 7.04, on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jan 2014, at 20:57, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard feedback from the list. I didn't rule out that I was doing something fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions. I will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within Apple since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge. Mike On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: This same thing happens to me also. I sort of thought I was the only one or else that I had not entered information correctly. I assume you already reported this to Apple? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed there. Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead. Since this isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message can't be sent to a landline phone. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone. If a person sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed. I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution. Thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
I’ve found Mail to be much more snappy when I went to the Gmail website and limited the number of messages to 1000. I realize that not everyone is willing or able to do this, but I was, and aside from the occasional delayed syncing issues, things are workable for me in Mail now. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it. Thanks for listening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
help retrieving my mail
i dont know what happen to my mail. it seems like my mail are deleted, i check my inbox and deleted folder and there's nothing in there. is this a possible thing that happen to my account? or just somebody just hack my account? i did even go to my gmail account and my mail is already gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: please disregard previous message
Hi Daniel, Normally to play youtube videos, you just press enter on the file. This wasn’t working because my internet was down and once I connected my mac to my IPhone using the phone as a wireless network or personal hotspot, the internet worked again on my mac. :) Hope you have a great day, Andrew On 20 Jan 2014, at 1:58 am, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Andrew, How did you get the video to play? I can’t seem to find the play or pause button. Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, It appears the reason I couldn’t open youtube videos was our internet playing up. I tried connecting to my personal hotspot on my iphone and this fixed the problem. thanks, Andrew Sent from my 11 inch macbook air -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Sent from my 11 inch macbook air -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7
I have a 4S and this problem occurs whenever I try to send a message to a contact that has more than one phone number in the contact entry. On 21,Jan,2014, at 9:23 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I have never experienced what you describe. I am running iOS version 7.04, on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jan 2014, at 20:57, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard feedback from the list. I didn't rule out that I was doing something fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions. I will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within Apple since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge. Mike On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: This same thing happens to me also. I sort of thought I was the only one or else that I had not entered information correctly. I assume you already reported this to Apple? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed there. Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead. Since this isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message can't be sent to a landline phone. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone. If a person sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed. I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution. Thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7
me either, i am running an iphone 5 with 7.0.4 as well and have never seen this issue at all. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:23 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I have never experienced what you describe. I am running iOS version 7.04, on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jan 2014, at 20:57, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard feedback from the list. I didn't rule out that I was doing something fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions. I will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within Apple since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge. Mike On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: This same thing happens to me also. I sort of thought I was the only one or else that I had not entered information correctly. I assume you already reported this to Apple? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed there. Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead. Since this isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message can't be sent to a landline phone. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone. If a person sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed. I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution. Thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
just upgraded to Mavericks, question re Eva voice
Hi all, I decided to take advantage of the three-day weekend to finally upgrade to Mavericks. Overall, I’m happy with the upgrade. Though I haven’t had much time to look at iBooks, I’m looking forward to having it on my Mac, and I’m pleased to see that some commands that didn’t work in ML have been restored. I tried out the Eva voice, but am finding that changes to pitch and volume have no impact. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a fix? thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
MenuTab in Mavericks?
Hello again, I find that in Mavericks, Ctrl-F does not activate MenuTab. I’ve looked in System Prefs under keyboard, then Shortcuts, but am not seeing anything pertaining to MenuTab. Can someone tell me what the new shortcut key is, and also where I should have been looking for it? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7
The only possibilities from your end I can think of are: (a) make sure all your contacts' phone numbers are correctly identified i.e.: a mobile phone doesn't show as home etc; (b) if you are typing the beginning of the contact you want in messages and then flicking through the choices, make sure there isn't more than one choice shown for a contact. Since this has only become a problem since Ios 7, probably neither of these is the problem but I know that with syncing between iCloud and all my various devices contact information that I have changed or deleted can show up again and things can get pretty scrambled-up looking. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:57 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard feedback from the list. I didn't rule out that I was doing something fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions. I will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within Apple since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge. Mike On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: This same thing happens to me also. I sort of thought I was the only one or else that I had not entered information correctly. I assume you already reported this to Apple? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed there. Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead. Since this isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message can't be sent to a landline phone. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone. If a person sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed. I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution. Thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MenuTab in Mavericks?
It is whatever you set it to, in the preferences of Menutab. See if you can get into its prefs from menu extras and check that you have it enabled. You might find that the app is not launching at start up in which case control-f won't work until it is launched. You can open it, then check this through its dock menu. Cheers Dave On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:54, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hello again, I find that in Mavericks, Ctrl-F does not activate MenuTab. I’ve looked in System Prefs under keyboard, then Shortcuts, but am not seeing anything pertaining to MenuTab. Can someone tell me what the new shortcut key is, and also where I should have been looking for it? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: just upgraded to Mavericks, question re Eva voice
No nuance voices support pitch or intonation changes. Cheers Dave On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I decided to take advantage of the three-day weekend to finally upgrade to Mavericks. Overall, I’m happy with the upgrade. Though I haven’t had much time to look at iBooks, I’m looking forward to having it on my Mac, and I’m pleased to see that some commands that didn’t work in ML have been restored. I tried out the Eva voice, but am finding that changes to pitch and volume have no impact. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a fix? thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
question re folder structure
Hi all, As part of my post-Mavericks installation explorations, I’ve come across something that seems rather curious. I appear to have way too many copies of my music folders. I see the first one under users. All of my album folders are there, there is also an iTunes folder which contains all that one would expect to find there. then, if I open my particular user folder, it’s all there yet again. The dates on the files are the same. I’m assuming these are duplicates? Do I need both folders? I know this may seem like a dumb question, but I am thinking I might as well erase the copy that’s just in the users folder, and want to make sure beforehand that I’m not going to mess up my iTunes library. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MenuTab in Mavericks?
Right, thanks. I didn’t change its startup status, so assumed it would open as before. Off to work, now, but will check this later. Thanks. Donna On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:16 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: It is whatever you set it to, in the preferences of Menutab. See if you can get into its prefs from menu extras and check that you have it enabled. You might find that the app is not launching at start up in which case control-f won't work until it is launched. You can open it, then check this through its dock menu. Cheers Dave On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:54, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hello again, I find that in Mavericks, Ctrl-F does not activate MenuTab. I’ve looked in System Prefs under keyboard, then Shortcuts, but am not seeing anything pertaining to MenuTab. Can someone tell me what the new shortcut key is, and also where I should have been looking for it? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: just upgraded to Mavericks, question re Eva voice
Ah. I thought I had a vague recollection of seeing some postings to that effect, but couldn’t remember for sure. Thanks for confirming. Cheers, Donna On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:17 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: No nuance voices support pitch or intonation changes. Cheers Dave On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I decided to take advantage of the three-day weekend to finally upgrade to Mavericks. Overall, I’m happy with the upgrade. Though I haven’t had much time to look at iBooks, I’m looking forward to having it on my Mac, and I’m pleased to see that some commands that didn’t work in ML have been restored. I tried out the Eva voice, but am finding that changes to pitch and volume have no impact. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a fix? thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
never mind folder question, got it sorted out
Subject says it all. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Filenames longer than 31 characters on the mac
Listers, Just recently, every time I try to save a file in let’s say TextEdit, I get a warning message that files with names longer than 31 characters cannot be saved on this system/volume. It didn’t used to happen. Have I changed some settings without knowing? If yes, where are they? Has anyone else these problems? 31 characters is not very long. I would miss this feature on the mac to have descriptive filenames. Thanks for your advice Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Enlarging menus
from what he says it just enlarges the text he is working with but not the menus. Thanks, Jim On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I've not played with it, as I'm a Voiceover user as well, but what about Zoom? I believe you can configure what it enlarges and when, and control the zoom level on the fly. Have a look: System Preferences Accessibility Zoom. On 1/20/14, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! A friend of mine has a mac and is slowly loosing vision. He has figured out how to make the text larger but not the menus and icons. Is there a way to do this? I'm strictly a voiceover user and not sure what to tell him. Thanks in advance. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: question re folder structure
I don’t think you have to keep both folders. You probably can delete them from the users folder. On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, As part of my post-Mavericks installation explorations, I’ve come across something that seems rather curious. I appear to have way too many copies of my music folders. I see the first one under users. All of my album folders are there, there is also an iTunes folder which contains all that one would expect to find there. then, if I open my particular user folder, it’s all there yet again. The dates on the files are the same. I’m assuming these are duplicates? Do I need both folders? I know this may seem like a dumb question, but I am thinking I might as well erase the copy that’s just in the users folder, and want to make sure beforehand that I’m not going to mess up my iTunes library. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it. Thanks for listening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hey Teresa, I assume limiting the messages to 1000 in gmail affects all the messages I have saved in specific folders? Ugh, that would definitely cause me issues as at times I do have to search for old emails for work. Not sure what this all mail folder is and if it was in mac mail in Mountain Lion and I just never noticed it. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:40 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve found Mail to be much more snappy when I went to the Gmail website and limited the number of messages to 1000. I realize that not everyone is willing or able to do this, but I was, and aside from the occasional delayed syncing issues, things are workable for me in Mail now. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it. Thanks for listening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Enlarging menus
I am too a VO user. But what I heard from others that zoom does not do largeing menues. But if you get zXoomtext that will do the trick. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: from what he says it just enlarges the text he is working with but not the menus. Thanks, Jim On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I've not played with it, as I'm a Voiceover user as well, but what about Zoom? I believe you can configure what it enlarges and when, and control the zoom level on the fly. Have a look: System Preferences Accessibility Zoom. On 1/20/14, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! A friend of mine has a mac and is slowly loosing vision. He has figured out how to make the text larger but not the menus and icons. Is there a way to do this? I'm strictly a voiceover user and not sure what to tell him. Thanks in advance. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7
I am too running IOS 7.0.4 on a 4s, and I’m not having that problem. I do find that doing a factory restore helps the iphone at times when it get’s buggy. When I Jailbroke my iPhone earlier this month, I crashed it and had to do a factory restore. And that pretty much fixed a lot of problems I had. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: The only possibilities from your end I can think of are: (a) make sure all your contacts' phone numbers are correctly identified i.e.: a mobile phone doesn't show as home etc; (b) if you are typing the beginning of the contact you want in messages and then flicking through the choices, make sure there isn't more than one choice shown for a contact. Since this has only become a problem since Ios 7, probably neither of these is the problem but I know that with syncing between iCloud and all my various devices contact information that I have changed or deleted can show up again and things can get pretty scrambled-up looking. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:57 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard feedback from the list. I didn't rule out that I was doing something fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions. I will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within Apple since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge. Mike On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: This same thing happens to me also. I sort of thought I was the only one or else that I had not entered information correctly. I assume you already reported this to Apple? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed there. Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead. Since this isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message can't be sent to a landline phone. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone. If a person sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed. I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution. Thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Ftp and Terminal mode
Hi guys, got a question. I haven't had any great luck with any of the free Ftp clients as of yet, filezilla doesn't seem tow irk or maybe I'm missing something on the setup, not sure, cyberduck might work but I can't seem to get the download to work, but I am able to get into ftp using terminal. Once I've established a connection, got to a main directory say for instance books, and then the directory is divided into letters of the alphabet showing the author's first name, how do I first navigate to that directory list, and then how do I get a book from that author's particular listing. I am sort of new, but I like the terminal approach but just trying to learn. Thanks for any help. take care and talk to you soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Filenames longer than 31 characters on the mac
Hello Andrew, Are you, by any chance, trying to save to a USB stick or external drive formatted as FAT32? That would explain your problem. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:51, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Listers, Just recently, every time I try to save a file in let’s say TextEdit, I get a warning message that files with names longer than 31 characters cannot be saved on this system/volume. It didn’t used to happen. Have I changed some settings without knowing? If yes, where are they? Has anyone else these problems? 31 characters is not very long. I would miss this feature on the mac to have descriptive filenames. Thanks for your advice Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: can't play youtube videos in safari
Hi, When installing the stand-alone Flash Player, use the tab key and spacebar, no VO keys. Tab to move and spacebar to activate buttons. HTH. Best. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Ronald van Rhijn pa...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi, Last time I installed the standalone Flash player I could do it with voice Over. If I recall correctly, you have to tab go get to the right buttons. did you try that? Ronald Op 20 jan. 2014, om 06:42 heeft Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That may be my problem with Safari. I keep on getting Adobe flash player install, but the install wizard is not accessable. Anyone got a idea how to install myself without me running to my wife? Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: try to install flash player Il giorno 19/gen/2014, alle ore 05:35 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com ha scritto: I use MacTubes a lot for viewing videos on YouTube and between it and safari, if one is being problematic, the other one seems to work. MacTubes is great and might be worth your trouble investigating. ∂ On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, I can search for youtube videos in safari, but I can’t play them. I press vo space on the links, but nothing happens. Any help is appreciated Hope everyone has a good day, Andrew Sent from my 11 inch macbook air -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Ftp and Terminal mode
I know that you can do a dir /w for wide i think. You go to the directory by doing cd directoryname. For example, cd Angela. On 01/21/2014 08:31, Tim Emmons wrote: Hi guys, got a question. I haven't had any great luck with any of the free Ftp clients as of yet, filezilla doesn't seem tow irk or maybe I'm missing something on the setup, not sure, cyberduck might work but I can't seem to get the download to work, but I am able to get into ftp using terminal. Once I've established a connection, got to a main directory say for instance books, and then the directory is divided into letters of the alphabet showing the author's first name, how do I first navigate to that directory list, and then how do I get a book from that author's particular listing. I am sort of new, but I like the terminal approach but just trying to learn. Thanks for any help. take care and talk to you soon. -- Have a great day. Scott sb356...@gmail.com Listen to Rock and Roll and More on www.peachtreeradiofm.com on Sunday nights from 9:00 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. Eastern. Please also check out our mobile apps available for Android and IOS devices. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using pages, templates.
Hi Anne and Nic, thank you very much for your help. It worked fine. Interestengly enough it seems to me there are different context menues. The way I knew to open the context menue was to turn trackpad commander off and click with two fingers at the same time. I assumed it's the same context menue as if I clicked with one finger holding the control key down. But thanks to Nic I now know better. :-) All the best to you both Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 06:47 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: HI Jürgen, To add to Anne's explanation, to delete or rename templates from the templates chooser (i.e. the dialog that appears when you press command-n to open a new document) just navigate to it, bring the mouse and do a physical control-click with a TrackPad or similar. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Numbers | Merging Cells and Text Boxes
Hi Nick, I think that VO is just having a hard time determining what you’ve done. I believe that your merge actually worked. If I merge cells A1 through C1, enter some text in the merged cells, then B1 and C1 will say that they are empty as you’ve noted. But if you navigate right once to the Scroll area after the Sheet area, Interact with it, VO will tell you that the text within either B1 or C1 is the same as what you entered in A1. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm wanting to create a kind of general heading for a table in the latest version of Numbers. Not a specific row or column heading, but a general kind of heading. In Excell I used to do this by merging the cells in the top row and putting the heading in there. This, however, doesn't seem to work in Numbers. Firstly, even though I merge two cells, A1 and B1, for example, the content only appears in A1 and B1 appears to VoiceOver as an empty cell. Does anyone know if there is any way to change this behaviour? Second, can text boxes be used easily for this purpose (i.e. creating a heading) and do they work well for VoiceOver? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Activity Monitor
Does anyone have a go to guide on what should be running and what you might be able to quit in the activity monitor to get your mac running better? I noticed my mail was only running at 211MB so that sounds normal, but honestly I have no clue what any of this info means to me in activity monitor. I have 4 GB of RAM and did notice activity monitor claims my machine is running at 3.85 GB of RAM, so that can’t be good, but I only have a few things open, so not sure what is taking up all my RAM. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. The guy I spoke to at Apple claimed for what I am doing with VO primarily using pages numbers, mail, and safari, that even on Mavericks 4 GB of RAM with the processor on my 2010 mid iMac is more than enough of RAM, and that I shouldn’t be having the sluggishness I have been dealing with. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How to Delete a Table in Numbers
Hi Nick, To delete a Table in Numbers, Interact with the Sheet area, navigate to the Table you wish to remove and press Option-delete on it. You cannot remove the last Table, there must be at least one in your Sheet area. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, How do you delete a table in Numbers? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Ftp and Terminal mode
right. The basics are cd to change directory into the one you want, ls to list the contents of a directory and get Filename to transfer a filename from the remote machine to the directory you were in when you started the ftp command. If you are in a folder but want to move back up to the parent you do cd .. where period period references the parent directory. If you don't like the local directory the files are going to land in you can use the lls and lcd to list the local directory and change the local directory. If you want to get multiple files you can use mget and a filename using wildcards such as *.pdf. Some FTP servers will prompt you to say yes or no for each match. If you don't want that just type prompt and return before doing the mget. CB On 1/21/14 10:53 AM, Scott B. wrote: I know that you can do a dir /w for wide i think. You go to the directory by doing cd directoryname. For example, cd Angela. On 01/21/2014 08:31, Tim Emmons wrote: Hi guys, got a question. I haven't had any great luck with any of the free Ftp clients as of yet, filezilla doesn't seem tow irk or maybe I'm missing something on the setup, not sure, cyberduck might work but I can't seem to get the download to work, but I am able to get into ftp using terminal. Once I've established a connection, got to a main directory say for instance books, and then the directory is divided into letters of the alphabet showing the author's first name, how do I first navigate to that directory list, and then how do I get a book from that author's particular listing. I am sort of new, but I like the terminal approach but just trying to learn. Thanks for any help. take care and talk to you soon. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: RSS syncing with the Newsify iOS app?
Is Readkit free? I also have NewsIsy, but i am not sure what my sync options are set to. Looks like I’m playing around with it today. Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently started using Newsify on iOS. I noticed it has a couple different sync options, and I'm wondering which I should do? I want it to be free, and I want it to sync with the rss reader I have on the Mac, Readkit. What's the best way to do this? Thanks, and Readkit-specific questions are coming - there are things about that app I don't get, but that's another email. :) -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it. Thanks for listening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: iBooks, Was just upgraded to Mavericks, question re Eva voice
Hi, Donna, Just be aware that iBooks is a bit tricky. When you’re in the library, push the lists radio button to have VO say your book titles. When you open a book, the chapter will be in an HTmL area, which you have to interact with. The shortcut key to switch chapters doesn’t work well with vO, so use the Go menu instead. Also, books with complicated sections within chapters don’t work properly with vO. Straightforward text within chapters will read well. HtH, Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Ah. I thought I had a vague recollection of seeing some postings to that effect, but couldn’t remember for sure. Thanks for confirming. Cheers, Donna On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:17 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: No nuance voices support pitch or intonation changes. Cheers Dave On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I decided to take advantage of the three-day weekend to finally upgrade to Mavericks. Overall, I’m happy with the upgrade. Though I haven’t had much time to look at iBooks, I’m looking forward to having it on my Mac, and I’m pleased to see that some commands that didn’t work in ML have been restored. I tried out the Eva voice, but am finding that changes to pitch and volume have no impact. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a fix? thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Advanced wireless settings
A few questions here: Does anyone use a different utility aside from Airport? How do you read the wireless traffic on and around your network? How do you find out which channels are the busiest in your neighborhood? Lastly, when I’m reading through the wireless devices list, VO says airport utility has new window. Should I be able to jump to this window, or is there information inside it I need to know? Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How to Delete a Table in Numbers
Hi Nic, here it worked this way: Set the VO-Cursor to the table you want to delete, open the context menue by pressing VO + Shift + m and choose Cut. All the best Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 07:15 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: Hi all, How do you delete a table in Numbers? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Pages
Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
I was wondering, how do you Archive mail on a Mac, and how to view Archive mail? Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
I dont know that yet. Matter of fact, starting Mac training today, much to learn but hope to be able to put all this to use very soon. Quote of the nanosecond . . . So, do you live around here often? Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 10:01 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: I was wondering, how do you Archive mail on a Mac, and how to view Archive mail? Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leav e your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
I am not having any problems at all with gmail. Despite the suggestion that you not hide the all mail folder…mine is hidden from apple mail. I have no idea why, but this has not caused me any problems whatsoever. I also delete instead of archive any unwanted mail. If it’s an email I want to save I just move it to a folder/label called “filed” and this seems to work for me if I don't’ want an email in my inbox but I might want to access it later. If only showing 1000 messages fixes your problem than maybe you could use safari and the gmail website to search for an old email? Or maybe even though you only show 1000 messages when you do a search it will search all messages??? I do not know. Maybe someone else here has a suggestion on accessing old emails. A long time ago I wanted to get rid of tons of unwanted emails so I created folders in apple mail to the on my mac instead of in the gmail portion of the side bar in apple mail. I don’t know how to explain that one, except to say that the folders were on my computer’s hard drive instead of syncing with gmail. then I went to gmails’ website and cleaned everything up except for the newest incoming messages. Then I went back to apple mail and moved the emails from my hard drive back to the appropriate folders in my gmail account. It was a crazy time but that was how I got rid of all the years and years of unwanted emails but I still was able to keep the ones that I wanted. It wasn’t a perfect solution but it worked for me. It was a couple of years ago and I don’t remember all the details. So I don’t remember exactly everything I did so I hope I am not leading you astray. I am absolutely no expert of any kind, very very far from it. I just cannot put my finger on why some are having major problems and some are not. The one thing I know I do different than a lot of people is that I do not Archive, I delete emails. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in
Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year. April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell the personal computer in 2014. It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two leading mobile platforms. Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility features. Let's see… henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared… How many of those companies, most of whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success. Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people could somewhat use it. Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the other FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? Proprietary desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire. All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting edge. I just don't see it now though. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust OCR scanning software with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will consider putting windows on my computer with boot camp or a virtual environment. So, for me this topic is important to discuss even though I am a mac user. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VO Not REcognizing Arabic
Dear list, I’m unsure how many of yawl are familiar with arabic, but the solution may apply to any foreign language that uses non Latin alphabets. I have a PDF file with both english and what’s suppose to be arabic writing. VO reads the english fine, but it reads the arabic writing as bazaar combinations of english letters and symbols. The symbols are greek, and Chinese I think… Any who, its any assortment of symbols Alex can recognize. I had a sighted friend confirm that the writing is actually in arabic. I also have the arabic voice Tarik downloaded in the VO utility under speech. I was hoping that the arabic voice would take over and read the arabic portions of the PDF and Alex would read the english portions. You know, something like how the iPhone does with recognizable foreign languages. Any thoughts? Thank you all, Ibraheem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages
Hello Jürgen, Here are the names of the predefined templates in Pages: Under Basic: Blank, Blank Landscape, Note Taking. Under Reports: Essay, Term Paper, School Report, Visual Report, Research Paper, Modern Report, Project Proposal. Under Letters: Classic Letter, Modern Letter, Business Letter, Traditional Letter, Photo Letter, Elegant Letter, Bold Type Letter, Informal Letter. Under Resumes: Curriculum Vitae, Classic Resume, Modern Resume, Business Resume, Elegant Resume, Bold Type Resume, Informal Resume. Under Envelopes: Business Envelope, Classic Envelope, Modern Envelope, Business Envelope, Elegant Envelope, Bold Type Envelope, Informal Envelope(The two Business Envelopes are apparently different). Under Business Cards: Classic Business Cards, Modern Business Cards, Business Cards, Elegant Business Cards, Bold Type Business Cards, Informal Business Cards. Under Flyers Posters: For Rent Flyer, For Sale Flyer, Tab Flyer, Real Estate Flyer, Lost Found Flyer, Photo Poster Small, Photo Poster Big, Event Poster Small, Event Poster Big, Party Poster Small, Party Poster Big, School Poster Small, School Poster Big, Type Poster Small, Type Poster Big. Under Cards: Photo Card Vertical, Photo Card Horizontal, Birthday Card, Real Estate Postcard, Event Postcard, Moving Postcard. Under Miscellaneous: Invoice, Elegant Brochure. Under Newsletter: Classic Newsletter, Journal Newsletter, Simple Newsletter, Serif Newsletter. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 17:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO Not REcognizing Arabic
I'm pretty sure you are going to have to switch to the Arabic voice to get the Arabic but I could be wrong. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I’m unsure how many of yawl are familiar with arabic, but the solution may apply to any foreign language that uses non Latin alphabets. I have a PDF file with both english and what’s suppose to be arabic writing. VO reads the english fine, but it reads the arabic writing as bazaar combinations of english letters and symbols. The symbols are greek, and Chinese I think… Any who, its any assortment of symbols Alex can recognize. I had a sighted friend confirm that the writing is actually in arabic. I also have the arabic voice Tarik downloaded in the VO utility under speech. I was hoping that the arabic voice would take over and read the arabic portions of the PDF and Alex would read the english portions. You know, something like how the iPhone does with recognizable foreign languages. Any thoughts? Thank you all, Ibraheem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO Not REcognizing Arabic
Hello Ibraheem, On the Mac, there is no automatic switching of languages, and in fact, on the iPhone, it only happens in HTML where the appropriate language tags are set. You just have to do it yourself. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 19:40, Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I’m unsure how many of yawl are familiar with arabic, but the solution may apply to any foreign language that uses non Latin alphabets. I have a PDF file with both english and what’s suppose to be arabic writing. VO reads the english fine, but it reads the arabic writing as bazaar combinations of english letters and symbols. The symbols are greek, and Chinese I think… Any who, its any assortment of symbols Alex can recognize. I had a sighted friend confirm that the writing is actually in arabic. I also have the arabic voice Tarik downloaded in the VO utility under speech. I was hoping that the arabic voice would take over and read the arabic portions of the PDF and Alex would read the english portions. You know, something like how the iPhone does with recognizable foreign languages. Any thoughts? Thank you all, Ibraheem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO Not REcognizing Arabic
Hey, I just tried setting Tarik to my default voice. Tariq can’t read the english, and he reads what’s suppose to be the Arabic the same way Alex did, except with a thick Arabic accent LOL. No fix. Could there be an issue in the composition of the PDF? Why would it appear visually as clear Arabic but the actual text is a strange combination of non Arabic letters and symbols… Best, Ibraheem On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure you are going to have to switch to the Arabic voice to get the Arabic but I could be wrong. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I’m unsure how many of yawl are familiar with arabic, but the solution may apply to any foreign language that uses non Latin alphabets. I have a PDF file with both english and what’s suppose to be arabic writing. VO reads the english fine, but it reads the arabic writing as bazaar combinations of english letters and symbols. The symbols are greek, and Chinese I think… Any who, its any assortment of symbols Alex can recognize. I had a sighted friend confirm that the writing is actually in arabic. I also have the arabic voice Tarik downloaded in the VO utility under speech. I was hoping that the arabic voice would take over and read the arabic portions of the PDF and Alex would read the english portions. You know, something like how the iPhone does with recognizable foreign languages. Any thoughts? Thank you all, Ibraheem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Mail is archived by moving it into the archive folder. Even archived mail remains in the all mail folder. There is actually just one folder. Other folders are labels that are placed on each message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 7:01, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering, how do you Archive mail on a Mac, and how to view Archive mail? Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What an gers me so
Re: Pages
i have tried most of these templates and they are not in english, the only way i have found to change this is to type your own text into the placeholders. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Jürgen, Here are the names of the predefined templates in Pages: Under Basic: Blank, Blank Landscape, Note Taking. Under Reports: Essay, Term Paper, School Report, Visual Report, Research Paper, Modern Report, Project Proposal. Under Letters: Classic Letter, Modern Letter, Business Letter, Traditional Letter, Photo Letter, Elegant Letter, Bold Type Letter, Informal Letter. Under Resumes: Curriculum Vitae, Classic Resume, Modern Resume, Business Resume, Elegant Resume, Bold Type Resume, Informal Resume. Under Envelopes: Business Envelope, Classic Envelope, Modern Envelope, Business Envelope, Elegant Envelope, Bold Type Envelope, Informal Envelope(The two Business Envelopes are apparently different). Under Business Cards: Classic Business Cards, Modern Business Cards, Business Cards, Elegant Business Cards, Bold Type Business Cards, Informal Business Cards. Under Flyers Posters: For Rent Flyer, For Sale Flyer, Tab Flyer, Real Estate Flyer, Lost Found Flyer, Photo Poster Small, Photo Poster Big, Event Poster Small, Event Poster Big, Party Poster Small, Party Poster Big, School Poster Small, School Poster Big, Type Poster Small, Type Poster Big. Under Cards: Photo Card Vertical, Photo Card Horizontal, Birthday Card, Real Estate Postcard, Event Postcard, Moving Postcard. Under Miscellaneous: Invoice, Elegant Brochure. Under Newsletter: Classic Newsletter, Journal Newsletter, Simple Newsletter, Serif Newsletter. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 17:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO Not REcognizing Arabic
Since switching voices doesn’t fix the problem, is there a way for me to run the PDF through a multilingual OCR? Does such an OCR even exist? Would an OCR even do anything if the arabic words are already written in these jumbled characters and are not represented as an image? Best, Ibraheem On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Ibraheem, On the Mac, there is no automatic switching of languages, and in fact, on the iPhone, it only happens in HTML where the appropriate language tags are set. You just have to do it yourself. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 19:40, Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I’m unsure how many of yawl are familiar with arabic, but the solution may apply to any foreign language that uses non Latin alphabets. I have a PDF file with both english and what’s suppose to be arabic writing. VO reads the english fine, but it reads the arabic writing as bazaar combinations of english letters and symbols. The symbols are greek, and Chinese I think… Any who, its any assortment of symbols Alex can recognize. I had a sighted friend confirm that the writing is actually in arabic. I also have the arabic voice Tarik downloaded in the VO utility under speech. I was hoping that the arabic voice would take over and read the arabic portions of the PDF and Alex would read the english portions. You know, something like how the iPhone does with recognizable foreign languages. Any thoughts? Thank you all, Ibraheem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Enlarging menus
OSX has a general screen magnifier. Turn it on in the System Preferences under Accessibility and then Zoom. Usual thing is to hold down control and do a two-finger stroke up and down to increase/decrease zoom on a trackpad or control+roller-wheel on a mouse with one of those. There are a bunch of options to play with like adding zoom in/out keystrokes and having the zoom area follow keyboard focus. CB On 1/21/14 10:26 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: I am too a VO user. But what I heard from others that zoom does not do largeing menues. But if you get zXoomtext that will do the trick. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com mailto:jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: from what he says it just enlarges the text he is working with but not the menus. Thanks, Jim On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I've not played with it, as I'm a Voiceover user as well, but what about Zoom? I believe you can configure what it enlarges and when, and control the zoom level on the fly. Have a look: System Preferences Accessibility Zoom. On 1/20/14, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com mailto:jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! A friend of mine has a mac and is slowly loosing vision. He has figured out how to make the text larger but not the menus and icons. Is there a way to do this? I'm strictly a voiceover user and not sure what to tell him. Thanks in advance. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in
Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is trying to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook. As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed OS. So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower their prices, so we will see. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year. April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell the personal computer in 2014. It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two leading mobile platforms. Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility features. Let's see… henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared… How many of those companies, most of whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success. Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people could somewhat use it. Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the other FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? Proprietary desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire. All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting edge. I just don't see it now though. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust OCR scanning software with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will consider putting windows on my computer with boot camp or a virtual environment. So, for me this topic is important to discuss even though I am a mac user. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are
Re: Advanced wireless settings
Hi Traci, You can see all of what you are looking for in the wifi section in system information. It is in the utilities folder. I’m not sure this is what you’re talking about, but when I read through the connected wireless clients list, I don’t hear vo say “airport utility has new window.”. You might see if you can find something with vo-f2 twice. Hope that helps. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: A few questions here: Does anyone use a different utility aside from Airport? How do you read the wireless traffic on and around your network? How do you find out which channels are the busiest in your neighborhood? Lastly, when I’m reading through the wireless devices list, VO says airport utility has new window. Should I be able to jump to this window, or is there information inside it I need to know? Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in
One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a Windows 8 tablet. That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn't taken into consideration. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM To: Mac Visionary Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is trying to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook. As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed OS. So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be around.Unless JAWS can't keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower their prices, so we will see. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year. April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell the personal computer in 2014. It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two leading mobile platforms. Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility features. Let's see. henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared. How many of those companies, most of whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success. Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people could somewhat use it. Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the other FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? Proprietary desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire. All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting edge. I just don't see it now though. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/ On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future especially since I'd like the ability to use a robust OCR scanning software with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will consider putting windows on my computer with boot camp or a virtual environment. So, for me this topic is important to discuss even
Re: Advanced wireless settings
Hi, The Airport Utility has new window is telling you just that. In certain situations, when focused on specific items within Airport Utility, new pop-up windows will appear. These windows give you more information about those items, as in Hardware Addresses, specific error messages etc. Usually, as Barry mentioned, VO-f2-f2 will give you access to that window. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Traci, You can see all of what you are looking for in the wifi section in system information. It is in the utilities folder. I’m not sure this is what you’re talking about, but when I read through the connected wireless clients list, I don’t hear vo say “airport utility has new window.”. You might see if you can find something with vo-f2 twice. Hope that helps. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: A few questions here: Does anyone use a different utility aside from Airport? How do you read the wireless traffic on and around your network? How do you find out which channels are the busiest in your neighborhood? Lastly, when I’m reading through the wireless devices list, VO says airport utility has new window. Should I be able to jump to this window, or is there information inside it I need to know? Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Yes, the all mail folder can be safely hidden. Every email message is given a label. When you change the emails folder, what is actually changed is the label which is assigned to the message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 7:24, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having any problems at all with gmail. Despite the suggestion that you not hide the all mail folder…mine is hidden from apple mail. I have no idea why, but this has not caused me any problems whatsoever. I also delete instead of archive any unwanted mail. If it’s an email I want to save I just move it to a folder/label called “filed” and this seems to work for me if I don't’ want an email in my inbox but I might want to access it later. If only showing 1000 messages fixes your problem than maybe you could use safari and the gmail website to search for an old email? Or maybe even though you only show 1000 messages when you do a search it will search all messages??? I do not know. Maybe someone else here has a suggestion on accessing old emails. A long time ago I wanted to get rid of tons of unwanted emails so I created folders in apple mail to the on my mac instead of in the gmail portion of the side bar in apple mail. I don’t know how to explain that one, except to say that the folders were on my computer’s hard drive instead of syncing with gmail. then I went to gmails’ website and cleaned everything up except for the newest incoming messages. Then I went back to apple mail and moved the emails from my hard drive back to the appropriate folders in my gmail account. It was a crazy time but that was how I got rid of all the years and years of unwanted emails but I still was able to keep the ones that I wanted. It wasn’t a perfect solution but it worked for me. It was a couple of years ago and I don’t remember all the details. So I don’t remember exactly everything I did so I hope I am not leading you astray. I am absolutely no expert of any kind, very very far from it. I just cannot put my finger on why some are having major problems and some are not. The one thing I know I do different than a lot of people is that I do not Archive, I delete emails. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: RSS syncing with the Newsify iOS app?
I'll try that, thanks. I've never done RSS before last year, and never synced anything until right now. I thought about it, then Google Reader got killed off and put a damper in those plans. :) On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, There are only two sync options in Newsify both I believe free, Feedly and Newsify. If you are looking to sync with Read Kit, use Feedly, and you can sync all of your subscriptions through Feedly in both Read Kit and Newsify. On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently started using Newsify on iOS. I noticed it has a couple different sync options, and I'm wondering which I should do? I want it to be free, and I want it to sync with the rss reader I have on the Mac, Readkit. What's the best way to do this? Thanks, and Readkit-specific questions are coming - there are things about that app I don't get, but that's another email. :) -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in
That’s an ouch! Whell somebody just wasted $1,000 for a Surface Pro. Wait! NVDA to the rescue! lol. Maybe partnered with MS it will be slipstreamed in Windows 9? Hopfully! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a Windows 8 tablet. That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn’t taken into consideration. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM To: Mac Visionary Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is trying to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook. As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed OS. So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower their prices, so we will see. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me about this. As you know, window-eyes has been under developed for several years. You might not be aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016. Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year. April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012 smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United States. In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell the personal computer in 2014. It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they are both already in the mobile space. Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market? Especially with IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two leading mobile platforms. Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access to windows? How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility features. Let's see… henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared… How many of those companies, most of whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space? AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success. Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people could somewhat use it. Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages So do Eric and the other FS bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once did. They are in fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us lately? Proprietary desktop applications for skype and facebook, both of which are much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire. All speculation on my part. I loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting edge. I just don't see it now though. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others with various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hey David, How do you hide the all mail folder? As I have labels and individual folders that I save the messages I need to save, and have never used the all mail folder, so would love to hide it if that is what is causing my issues. I also noticed that in my inbox when I move over to the column which tells me which email the message was sent to it, in Mountain Lion it would just read Gmail, and now it says google all mail. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:54 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the all mail folder can be safely hidden. Every email message is given a label. When you change the emails folder, what is actually changed is the label which is assigned to the message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 7:24, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having any problems at all with gmail. Despite the suggestion that you not hide the all mail folder…mine is hidden from apple mail. I have no idea why, but this has not caused me any problems whatsoever. I also delete instead of archive any unwanted mail. If it’s an email I want to save I just move it to a folder/label called “filed” and this seems to work for me if I don't’ want an email in my inbox but I might want to access it later. If only showing 1000 messages fixes your problem than maybe you could use safari and the gmail website to search for an old email? Or maybe even though you only show 1000 messages when you do a search it will search all messages??? I do not know. Maybe someone else here has a suggestion on accessing old emails. A long time ago I wanted to get rid of tons of unwanted emails so I created folders in apple mail to the on my mac instead of in the gmail portion of the side bar in apple mail. I don’t know how to explain that one, except to say that the folders were on my computer’s hard drive instead of syncing with gmail. then I went to gmails’ website and cleaned everything up except for the newest incoming messages. Then I went back to apple mail and moved the emails from my hard drive back to the appropriate folders in my gmail account. It was a crazy time but that was how I got rid of all the years and years of unwanted emails but I still was able to keep the ones that I wanted. It wasn’t a perfect solution but it worked for me. It was a couple of years ago and I don’t remember all the details. So I don’t remember exactly everything I did so I hope I am not leading you astray. I am absolutely no expert of any kind, very very far from it. I just cannot put my finger on why some are having major problems and some are not. The one thing I know I do different than a lot of people is that I do not Archive, I delete emails. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem. I do have a ton of email in gmail
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
In all honesty, I just never open the all mail folder. I prefer not to hide any folders. If I cannot find a message I need, I occasionally search in the all mail folder. In other words, I searched through every email message. My advice is, just do not open the all mail folder. If you delete messages from all-male, and you're setting in Gmail is set to delete rather then permanently archive, the message will disappear from the other folder you have it in, because all messages are actually only in the all mail folder. Folder labels for Gmail are actually flags. They instruct the email Program as to where to show the message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:12, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, How do you hide the all mail folder? As I have labels and individual folders that I save the messages I need to save, and have never used the all mail folder, so would love to hide it if that is what is causing my issues. I also noticed that in my inbox when I move over to the column which tells me which email the message was sent to it, in Mountain Lion it would just read Gmail, and now it says google all mail. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:54 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the all mail folder can be safely hidden. Every email message is given a label. When you change the emails folder, what is actually changed is the label which is assigned to the message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 7:24, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having any problems at all with gmail. Despite the suggestion that you not hide the all mail folder…mine is hidden from apple mail. I have no idea why, but this has not caused me any problems whatsoever. I also delete instead of archive any unwanted mail. If it’s an email I want to save I just move it to a folder/label called “filed” and this seems to work for me if I don't’ want an email in my inbox but I might want to access it later. If only showing 1000 messages fixes your problem than maybe you could use safari and the gmail website to search for an old email? Or maybe even though you only show 1000 messages when you do a search it will search all messages??? I do not know. Maybe someone else here has a suggestion on accessing old emails. A long time ago I wanted to get rid of tons of unwanted emails so I created folders in apple mail to the on my mac instead of in the gmail portion of the side bar in apple mail. I don’t know how to explain that one, except to say that the folders were on my computer’s hard drive instead of syncing with gmail. then I went to gmails’ website and cleaned everything up except for the newest incoming messages. Then I went back to apple mail and moved the emails from my hard drive back to the appropriate folders in my gmail account. It was a crazy time but that was how I got rid of all the years and years of unwanted emails but I still was able to keep the ones that I wanted. It wasn’t a perfect solution but it worked for me. It was a couple of years ago and I don’t remember all the details. So I don’t remember exactly everything I did so I hope I am not leading you astray. I am absolutely no expert of any kind, very very far from it. I just cannot put my finger on why some are having major problems and some are not. The one thing I know I do different than a lot of people is that I do not Archive, I delete emails. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
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I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work with VO. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my
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Yes, but it is not just VO. Bye had similar problems when I used Windows systems. Google regularly has problems with screenreader access. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:21, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work with VO. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a
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Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing?
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Hello Jessica, The strange language you see in templates is fake Latin used as placeholder text. If you highlight this text then type over it, your own text has the same formatting as the placeholder text. Jürgen runs his computer in German, so his version of Pages is in German, what he asked for was the English versions of the names of the templates. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 19:55, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i have tried most of these templates and they are not in english, the only way i have found to change this is to type your own text into the placeholders. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Jürgen, Here are the names of the predefined templates in Pages: Under Basic: Blank, Blank Landscape, Note Taking. Under Reports: Essay, Term Paper, School Report, Visual Report, Research Paper, Modern Report, Project Proposal. Under Letters: Classic Letter, Modern Letter, Business Letter, Traditional Letter, Photo Letter, Elegant Letter, Bold Type Letter, Informal Letter. Under Resumes: Curriculum Vitae, Classic Resume, Modern Resume, Business Resume, Elegant Resume, Bold Type Resume, Informal Resume. Under Envelopes: Business Envelope, Classic Envelope, Modern Envelope, Business Envelope, Elegant Envelope, Bold Type Envelope, Informal Envelope(The two Business Envelopes are apparently different). Under Business Cards: Classic Business Cards, Modern Business Cards, Business Cards, Elegant Business Cards, Bold Type Business Cards, Informal Business Cards. Under Flyers Posters: For Rent Flyer, For Sale Flyer, Tab Flyer, Real Estate Flyer, Lost Found Flyer, Photo Poster Small, Photo Poster Big, Event Poster Small, Event Poster Big, Party Poster Small, Party Poster Big, School Poster Small, School Poster Big, Type Poster Small, Type Poster Big. Under Cards: Photo Card Vertical, Photo Card Horizontal, Birthday Card, Real Estate Postcard, Event Postcard, Moving Postcard. Under Miscellaneous: Invoice, Elegant Brochure. Under Newsletter: Classic Newsletter, Journal Newsletter, Simple Newsletter, Serif Newsletter. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 17:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Thanks for letting me know the Google issues are not just with Apple. I am an Apple loyalist, but assumed the Gmail issues and screen reader were just with Apple. I am noticing that all of my sent emails are also going to this ALL mail folder. I found some instructions on the web on what to do, but can’t seem to navigate Gmail on the web at all, as the old classic view seems to gone away. Hilarious that Google still can’t make their mail and apps work with a screen reader, but people are going to trust Google to put them behind the wheel of a self driving car. Makes me laugh. At least mail is working a lot better today, but would like to get to the root of the problem before the problems arise again. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but it is not just VO. Bye had similar problems when I used Windows systems. Google regularly has problems with screenreader access. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:21, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work with VO. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hey David, Thanks for taking the time to spell it all out, and yes, it makes much more sense to me now. I guess what I need to do is follow the steps Mac World is suggesting, unless mail continues to work as good as it is now. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune. --Boris Pasternak Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just
Re: Pages
Hi Anne, thank you so much for your efforts. :-) That really helps me very much. All the best Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 19:39 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, Here are the names of the predefined templates in Pages: Under Basic: Blank, Blank Landscape, Note Taking. Under Reports: Essay, Term Paper, School Report, Visual Report, Research Paper, Modern Report, Project Proposal. Under Letters: Classic Letter, Modern Letter, Business Letter, Traditional Letter, Photo Letter, Elegant Letter, Bold Type Letter, Informal Letter. Under Resumes: Curriculum Vitae, Classic Resume, Modern Resume, Business Resume, Elegant Resume, Bold Type Resume, Informal Resume. Under Envelopes: Business Envelope, Classic Envelope, Modern Envelope, Business Envelope, Elegant Envelope, Bold Type Envelope, Informal Envelope(The two Business Envelopes are apparently different). Under Business Cards: Classic Business Cards, Modern Business Cards, Business Cards, Elegant Business Cards, Bold Type Business Cards, Informal Business Cards. Under Flyers Posters: For Rent Flyer, For Sale Flyer, Tab Flyer, Real Estate Flyer, Lost Found Flyer, Photo Poster Small, Photo Poster Big, Event Poster Small, Event Poster Big, Party Poster Small, Party Poster Big, School Poster Small, School Poster Big, Type Poster Small, Type Poster Big. Under Cards: Photo Card Vertical, Photo Card Horizontal, Birthday Card, Real Estate Postcard, Event Postcard, Moving Postcard. Under Miscellaneous: Invoice, Elegant Brochure. Under Newsletter: Classic Newsletter, Journal Newsletter, Simple Newsletter, Serif Newsletter. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 17:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before
RE: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hi David, If I understand what you have explained with GMAIL, if I go to gmail.com, and to the all-mail folder and delete all the old (thousands of them), then they shouldn't be downloaded once I think about upgrading to Mavericks. Is that correct? The master folder is the all mail folder and the rest of the folders are just virtual ones in Gmail and on the Apple mail native client. Did I get this right? I just want clarification to see if I thoroughly got the concept. Thanks. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the other mentioned folders. I do this weekly. Quote of the nanosecond . . . The great majority of us are required to live a life of
What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
Hello. Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac? Just that for the last few days, I can’t use it and have to use it on the I phone. I wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hi David, Another question about Gmail. Can one create new label folders on the iPhone or does it need to be created at gmail.com? Also, if you have a folder listed in the account Gmail area on the phone, can the rule be created on the phone or again the rule needs to be created in gmail.com? Thanks. Cheers, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So
Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
Hi, No, Downcast on OS X works perfect fine here. Try deleting and reinstalling the app. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac? Just that for the last few days, I can’t use it and have to use it on the I phone. I wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Yes, creating a folder in mail under your Gmail account, creates the label for the indexing folder on Gmail. Back out to the outer most list in the mail. Double tap on edit. Find the create mailbox and double tap on it. Navigate to the place where you want the mailbox folder to be. Gmail rules need to be set on the Gmail website. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 10:13, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Another question about Gmail. Can one create new label folders on the iPhone or does it need to be created at gmail.com? Also, if you have a folder listed in the account Gmail area on the phone, can the rule be created on the phone or again the rule needs to be created in gmail.com? Thanks. Cheers, Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it and re-launch. Best of luck, Nic On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and Macmail. After a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy problems again. I called
saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks
Hello, I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be? Jessica I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5: 7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Yes, this is correct, as long as you have set your preferences, on the Gmail website, to delete messages rather than permanently archive all messages. If, on the other hand, you have not changed this setting, all messages deleted from the all-male folder Will still remain. Their labels will be switched to archive, and because this action is taken, will seem to disappear from the all-male folder. Technically, they are actually still located in the all-male list. However, the Gmail website, and most email programs, will only display them in archive. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 10:08, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, If I understand what you have explained with GMAIL, if I go to gmail.com, and to the all-mail folder and delete all the old (thousands of them), then they shouldn't be downloaded once I think about upgrading to Mavericks. Is that correct? The master folder is the all mail folder and the rest of the folders are just virtual ones in Gmail and on the Apple mail native client. Did I get this right? I just want clarification to see if I thoroughly got the concept. Thanks. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still
Re: Filenames longer than 31 characters on the mac
Hello Anne, That is the strange issue: I'm trying to save to the hard drive the way I've always done. And suddenly this message when trying to do it in TextEdit. It threw me completely. Maybe it will settle down. If you don't know what might have gone wrong with your experience, I think it must be some kind of a crazy gremlin. smile Thanks for responding. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Yes, deleting sent messages is deleting the messages that you have written and sent to other people. Again, if your Gmail preferences are set to archive, your sent messages will then be archived rather than deleted. At least, this is how I understand the way sent messages works. This specific situation might be a little different from the rest. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 10:03, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Oh, by the way, the busy busy issue with Mac Mail indexing all of the Gmail messages is why I do all of my email on my iPhone. After I have cleared out all of the extra email messages, I will try Mac mail again. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 10:03, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the gmail account, its gone. I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail is gmail. Before I dump
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Actually, Google is an excellent research company. Outside of universities, Google hires more PhD's and researchers then any other private company. The problems are: because they have mainly very geeky people, they are not good at writing basic level user interfaces, and Devices the research work well for people who know what they are doing, but do not necessarily work so well for average people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:54, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for letting me know the Google issues are not just with Apple. I am an Apple loyalist, but assumed the Gmail issues and screen reader were just with Apple. I am noticing that all of my sent emails are also going to this ALL mail folder. I found some instructions on the web on what to do, but can’t seem to navigate Gmail on the web at all, as the old classic view seems to gone away. Hilarious that Google still can’t make their mail and apps work with a screen reader, but people are going to trust Google to put them behind the wheel of a self driving car. Makes me laugh. At least mail is working a lot better today, but would like to get to the root of the problem before the problems arise again. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but it is not just VO. Bye had similar problems when I used Windows systems. Google regularly has problems with screenreader access. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:21, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work with VO. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy
Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks
How big are the files you are trying to send? Maybe something is trying to 'help' you along the way by zipping the files. CB On 1/21/14 5:04 PM, Jess wrote: Hello, I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be? Jessica I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5: 7 -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks
Have your friend open the zip and make sure its a .xls file. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i have no clue, how would i find out? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: How big are the files you are trying to send? Maybe something is trying to 'help' you along the way by zipping the files. CB On 1/21/14 5:04 PM, Jess wrote: Hello, I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be? Jessica I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5: 7 -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks
i have no clue, how would i find out? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: How big are the files you are trying to send? Maybe something is trying to 'help' you along the way by zipping the files. CB On 1/21/14 5:04 PM, Jess wrote: Hello, I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be? Jessica I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5: 7 -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
Hi David, Thanks for fielding all these messages about Gmail. You beat me to the punch most of the time and explained everything excellently. Just to comment on this message about the busy, busy stuff in the latest Mail, I’m confident that you could upgrade to this and not be extremely frustrated. If you leave your Mail on for a few hours or overnight, everything would transfer and from then on, Mail should behave somewhat normally. I run a MBP 15 Late 2011 with a regular spinning HD and 8 GB of RAM with no issues at all. Also, there is the option to get rid of lots of the very old archived messages ahead of time thus making the sync of the All Mail much quicker. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, by the way, the busy busy issue with Mac Mail indexing all of the Gmail messages is why I do all of my email on my iPhone. After I have cleared out all of the extra email messages, I will try Mac mail again. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 10:03, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone
Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
Hi, No problems here. I am able to use it just fine. Matthew On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac? Just that for the last few days, I can’t use it and have to use it on the I phone. I wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Advanced wireless settings
Thank you both. I didn’t know about the system settings under utilities. That wireless information is interesting. VO-f2f2 did tell me about the additional pop-over, but it wouldn’t let me interact with it. Each time I entered or VO-spaced on it, the window disappeared from view. Another question: I have a main network, then a guest network. Is it possible or advisable to have one network dedicated to wireless N, and the other dedicated to wireless G. Most of our devices are wireless N, but there are one or two hanging around that still use G only. Thanks, Traci On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The Airport Utility has new window is telling you just that. In certain situations, when focused on specific items within Airport Utility, new pop-up windows will appear. These windows give you more information about those items, as in Hardware Addresses, specific error messages etc. Usually, as Barry mentioned, VO-f2-f2 will give you access to that window. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Traci, You can see all of what you are looking for in the wifi section in system information. It is in the utilities folder. I’m not sure this is what you’re talking about, but when I read through the connected wireless clients list, I don’t hear vo say “airport utility has new window.”. You might see if you can find something with vo-f2 twice. Hope that helps. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: A few questions here: Does anyone use a different utility aside from Airport? How do you read the wireless traffic on and around your network? How do you find out which channels are the busiest in your neighborhood? Lastly, when I’m reading through the wireless devices list, VO says airport utility has new window. Should I be able to jump to this window, or is there information inside it I need to know? Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Deleting an app
How does one delete an app on the Mac if you don't like it? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fwd: braille star 80 and osx mavericks
Begin doorgestuurd bericht: Van: William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com Onderwerp: Antw.: braille star 80 and osx mavericks Datum: 21 januari 2014 23:59:16 CET Aan: Margot von Bedö Kopie: Accessibility Accessibility accessibil...@apple.com Hello Margot from handy tech and apple accessibility, I find this a very pour answer from Apple and specially, as always, they don’t know when the problem will be resolved. My hardware = braille display including firmware haven’t changed so, in my opinion, the problem is only caused by the os. It’s so disappointing that apple doesn’t make any priority of supporting older hardware on the way it was in previous versions. As quality label, waiting more then 3 months for a fix of this essential hardware problem, for blind users, is not acceptable in my opinion. And, even more since the particular hardware isn’t working at all. I can only wish and pray that 10.9.2 is coming soon and brings a fix for this problem. Kind regards, William Windels Op 8-jan.-2014, om 15:36 heeft Margot von Bedö margot.vonbe...@handytech.de het volgende geschreven: Hello William, We are aware of this problem, and are assisting Apple to get it resolved. A fix will soon be provided in the form of an OS update. However, we cannot specify exactly when the update will be released. Unfortunately we are not aware of any workaround except to either wait for the update (which shouldn't take long), or, for the time being, roll back to a previous version of MacOS. Sorry for not having a better idea! Best regards Margot von Bedö Handy Tech Elektronik GmbH Brunnenstraße 10 72160 Horb Germany Tel: +49 (0)7451 5546-55 Fax: +49 (0)7451 5546-67 E-Mail: hi...@handytech.de Internet: www.handytech.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: Horb-Nordstetten - Handelsregister Stuttgart HRB 440471 - Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Siegfried Kipke - USt-IdNr.: DE 213 128 795 Werden Sie Teil unserer Handy Tech Internetgemeinde und bleiben Sie immer informiert! Join the Handy Tech web-community and stay up to date! Facebook: Deutsch: English: Youtube: Twitter: Google+: RSS-Feed: Deutsch: English: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: William Windels [mailto:william.wind...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2014 12:15 An: h...@handytech.de Betreff: braille star 80 and osx mavericks Hello, My handy tech braille star 80 isn't working anymore on osx mavericks 10.9 while it works perfectly on 10.8.5. I have reported this at accessibil...@apple.com and they are investigating the problem. I tought with 10.9.1, the problem should be fixed but it wasn't. Perhaps you know more about changes in drivers or some other changes that are causing this problem? kind regards, William Windels= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks
she can’t open it. Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Have your friend open the zip and make sure its a .xls file. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i have no clue, how would i find out? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: How big are the files you are trying to send? Maybe something is trying to 'help' you along the way by zipping the files. CB On 1/21/14 5:04 PM, Jess wrote: Hello, I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be? Jessica I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5: 7 -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Filenames longer than 31 characters on the mac
Hi, Try saving the document to the Desktop. When you do the cmd-s to Save, press cmd-shift-d to set the save location to the Desktop. Try a longer than 31 character title there. I’m wondering if TextEdit is trying to save your document to iCloud,, and if that could cause this sort of error message. Not sure, just a thought. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Anne, That is the strange issue: I'm trying to save to the hard drive the way I've always done. And suddenly this message when trying to do it in TextEdit. It threw me completely. Maybe it will settle down. If you don't know what might have gone wrong with your experience, I think it must be some kind of a crazy gremlin. smile Thanks for responding. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Advanced wireless settings
Hi, I don’t believe that you need to go to that much effort. The newer Airport devices are dual bandwidth and the devices that use N will grab the N signal and the other devices that use G will grab that signal. Your Airport will handle that stuff on its own. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you both. I didn’t know about the system settings under utilities. That wireless information is interesting. VO-f2f2 did tell me about the additional pop-over, but it wouldn’t let me interact with it. Each time I entered or VO-spaced on it, the window disappeared from view. Another question: I have a main network, then a guest network. Is it possible or advisable to have one network dedicated to wireless N, and the other dedicated to wireless G. Most of our devices are wireless N, but there are one or two hanging around that still use G only. Thanks, Traci On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The Airport Utility has new window is telling you just that. In certain situations, when focused on specific items within Airport Utility, new pop-up windows will appear. These windows give you more information about those items, as in Hardware Addresses, specific error messages etc. Usually, as Barry mentioned, VO-f2-f2 will give you access to that window. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Traci, You can see all of what you are looking for in the wifi section in system information. It is in the utilities folder. I’m not sure this is what you’re talking about, but when I read through the connected wireless clients list, I don’t hear vo say “airport utility has new window.”. You might see if you can find something with vo-f2 twice. Hope that helps. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: A few questions here: Does anyone use a different utility aside from Airport? How do you read the wireless traffic on and around your network? How do you find out which channels are the busiest in your neighborhood? Lastly, when I’m reading through the wireless devices list, VO says airport utility has new window. Should I be able to jump to this window, or is there information inside it I need to know? Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
I take it you aren’t implying all blind people are average, as I have yet to meet a blind person who can fully use google and all of there native apps with VoiceOVer On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, Google is an excellent research company. Outside of universities, Google hires more PhD's and researchers then any other private company. The problems are: because they have mainly very geeky people, they are not good at writing basic level user interfaces, and Devices the research work well for people who know what they are doing, but do not necessarily work so well for average people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:54, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for letting me know the Google issues are not just with Apple. I am an Apple loyalist, but assumed the Gmail issues and screen reader were just with Apple. I am noticing that all of my sent emails are also going to this ALL mail folder. I found some instructions on the web on what to do, but can’t seem to navigate Gmail on the web at all, as the old classic view seems to gone away. Hilarious that Google still can’t make their mail and apps work with a screen reader, but people are going to trust Google to put them behind the wheel of a self driving car. Makes me laugh. At least mail is working a lot better today, but would like to get to the root of the problem before the problems arise again. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but it is not just VO. Bye had similar problems when I used Windows systems. Google regularly has problems with screenreader access. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:21, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is in settings but the idiots at Google still can’t make their gmail website work with VO. I just looked at the gmail site, and I think it reverted back to the view that doesn’t work with VO, and I can’t seem to find the damn link for classic view or non html whatever it is called. Very frustrating that Google still refuses to design their apps and stuff to work with VO. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail has a couple settings which are initially set in a confusing way. One of these settings is archive all mail. This is the default setting. It means, whenever an email is deleted, Gmail places the archive label on the message. For some reason, when Apple mail first sees these old messages, it assigns them back to the original inbox folder. I ended up with over 140,000 email messages since 2005. The solution is: go to www.gmail.com and log-in to your gmail account. Find the preferences or settings page (I do not remember what it is called), and locate the how to handle deleted messages. Change this setting from permanently archive to delete. Another setting found in this area is POP3 or IMAP. These are checkboxes, so Gmail can be set to do both at the same time. I used to do this, but found occasional headaches from it, so changed everything to IMAP. I am currently in the process of deleting all my older messages. I occasionally sort out important messages during the process. I am doing this on my iPhone as the mail interface makes more sense to me. I am down to 44,000 messages at this point. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 4:15, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but not sure where it is. Thanks, On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bryan, First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is. Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be. I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have
Re: Deleting an app
Scott, It’s so much easier than Windows that @ first you’re sure you’re missing something. Anyway, go to the applications folder, by pressing Command-Shift-A. Interact with the list view or whichever display mode you have chosen. Arrow to the app in question. Press Command-Delete answer any prompts as desired. You may or may not have to enter your password, depending on your system preferences. You may wish to check for any app specific folders on your system delete them. It’s, also, a good idea to repair disk permissions, after deleting an application. Programs like “CCleaner” do a good job of cleaning up after app deletions its free. Hope this helps, CJ On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Scott B. sb356...@gmail.com wrote: How does one delete an app on the Mac if you don't like it? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
Good luck with that, as I deleted Downcast and have yet to be able to get it to actually open since reinstalling it from the app store, have traded a ton of emails with the developers but still have yet to be able to get Downcast to open on my mac, it just quits as soon as launched. On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, No, Downcast on OS X works perfect fine here. Try deleting and reinstalling the app. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac? Just that for the last few days, I can’t use it and have to use it on the I phone. I wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Deleting an app
You don't need to interact, at least I never do. Deleting works normally, especially for .app files. Some applications, mostly the ones that come with a .pkg installer, will include uninstall tools you should use. These will clear up any folders or files the app created when it was installed. Again, though, the more common .app files can simply be deleted to uninstall them. On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:39 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, It’s so much easier than Windows that @ first you’re sure you’re missing something. Anyway, go to the applications folder, by pressing Command-Shift-A. Interact with the list view or whichever display mode you have chosen. Arrow to the app in question. Press Command-Delete answer any prompts as desired. You may or may not have to enter your password, depending on your system preferences. You may wish to check for any app specific folders on your system delete them. It’s, also, a good idea to repair disk permissions, after deleting an application. Programs like “CCleaner” do a good job of cleaning up after app deletions its free. Hope this helps, CJ On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Scott B. sb356...@gmail.com wrote: How does one delete an app on the Mac if you don't like it? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
Try the following see below. 1) Close Downcast 2) Open Terminal 3) Run this command in Terminal: defaults delete com.jamawkinaw.downcast.mac That will delete your Downcast preferences. The next time you start Downcast you should hit CMD + R after it starts up to refresh all your podcasts. Since this is deleting your preferences, you'll need to then re-enable iCloud settings so you get back in sync with your other devices. Good luck. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: January 21, 2014 18:41 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac? Good luck with that, as I deleted Downcast and have yet to be able to get it to actually open since reinstalling it from the app store, have traded a ton of emails with the developers but still have yet to be able to get Downcast to open on my mac, it just quits as soon as launched. On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, No, Downcast on OS X works perfect fine here. Try deleting and reinstalling the app. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac? Just that for the last few days, I can't use it and have to use it on the I phone. I wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still
There is a setting i use to automatically delete messages in my sent folder/label after 30 days. I am sure this setting is in apple mail but I cannot remember if it is also in gmail. It seems like I remember this setting in gmail. This is how I keep my sent folder from growing so large. :) I do not archive though, I delete so my deleted messages are truly gone and not simply labeled as archive. Christina Sent from Christina's iMac :) On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, One last question. I left a message for the guy I spoke to at Apple, hopefully he will call me back. Anyway, I just noticed in Mac mail in my sent folder there are 14000 messages. Can I delete all of these, will this help? I assume since I am not deleting anything from the All mail folder anything that I have labeled and put in to what I call a folder will still be there and remain. And of course, right after I mention how good mail has been working the busy busy issues have returned a little. On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Look at how much you are struggling with the label concept that Gmail actually uses. It took me a couple years to get my head around the concept. It is difficult to understand because it is so different from any other mail handling protocols I have seen. So, I am not surprised that the tech support person went down the wrong track. Most people do not understand what Gmail actually does. In point of fact, there are no folders in Gmail. There is only one folder called all mail. This folder contains every email message. What helped me to understand this was when I switched to the mac and learned about virtual folders. A virtual folder does not actually have any messages in it. A virtual folder is an index list of all the messages which match its criteria. However, when in the virtual folder, email appears and handles the same way that it does in any other folder. You are just manipulating the message in its original folder, but you are in the virtual folder. In Gmail, all folders are virtual except the all mail folder. There is only one copy of your message, and it is in the all mail folder. When you access it in any other folder, you are using a label index system to access the message that is actually only located in the all mail folder. If you should move the message from the gmail folder to a local only folder, the message is copied from all mail and then deleted from all mail. If you move a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but its indexing label name is changed. If you copy a message from one gmail folder to another gmail folder, the message remains in the all mail folder, but it is given a second indexing label. Like I said, it is difficult to get one's head around how it works, so try and cut the tech support person a little slack. Even the tech support person is only human. Figure out how to understand mac mail's virtual mailboxes and the gmail system should start making more sense. Then, if you have another problem, you might be able to educate that tech support person on something which is extremely confusing. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 9:14, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of programming and bugs. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside the
Switching Between Docs In iText Express On A Mac Air
Hello Folks, I am hoping someone can assist me in using iTex Express in switching between 2 or more files that are opened on my Air. I am using ML. I am viewing one document and need to make notes for training purposes. This feature I am well-acquainted with on the PC side and I was wondering if it exists on the Mac side. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to accomplish this. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
