Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Sure, Whatever would work best for you. Either which way, there are ways to restore your system without a DVD. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 20, 2011, at 1:43 AM, brandt wrote: > I don't know about most, my choice would be an external bootable disk made > with Carbin copy Cloner or Super Duper. (spelling) > > At least, that follows the sudgestion made by some that the cd/DVD rom is > going the way of the dodo. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Well, > > You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore > from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do >> if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard "mac doesn't crash ... bla bla >> blah" and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. >> Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion >> via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes >> dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South >> Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and >> downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Well, >> >> The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the >> Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't >> be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't >> as much of a concern. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be >>> shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, >>> will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 >>> above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards >>> like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll >>> equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb >>> drives. >>> >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I don't know about most, my choice would be an external bootable disk made with Carbin copy Cloner or Super Duper. (spelling) At least, that follows the sudgestion made by some that the cd/DVD rom is going the way of the dodo. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard "mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah" and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well, You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do > if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard "mac doesn't crash ... bla bla > blah" and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. > Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion > via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead > on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa > (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and > downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Well, > > The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the > Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't > be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't > as much of a concern. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >> So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be >> shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, >> will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 >> above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards >> like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal >> how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. >> >> Shawn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
This might be the case, but in the places I've been in the last 4 months, Durban, Johannesburg and Pretoria, and out here in my home town, I haven't seen any sign of better mobile data service than dialup. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Max" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Just for accuracy. You do get what is called 4G in other countries in South Africa., although we don't call it that . Three service providers have 42 megabit services. The vodacom network has very good coverage. Only problem here is that it is still very expensive. Chris Moore wrote: Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: > Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC > by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have > 3G mobile network? > On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > >> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available >> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some >> places. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can >> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 >> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. >> After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were >> talking about were cassette. >> >> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are >> currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though >> who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ >> >> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK >> have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: >> >>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with >>> high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South >>> Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. >>> Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can >>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 >>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>&g
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Just for accuracy. You do get what is called 4G in other countries in South Africa., although we don't call it that . Three service providers have 42 megabit services. The vodacom network has very good coverage. Only problem here is that it is still very expensive. Chris Moore wrote: > Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or > so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music > downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to > re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, > then I will be going 100% download too. > On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: > > > Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Brandt Steenkamp > > > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > > going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > > > Contact me: > > > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > > MSN: brandt...@live.com > > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > > > > Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G > > mobile network? > > On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > > > >> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available > >> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. > >> > >> Warm regards, > >> > >> Brandt Steenkamp > >> > >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > >> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >> > >> Contact me: > >> > >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >> > >> > >> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. > >> After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were > >> talking about were cassette. > >> > >> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are > >> currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who > >> have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ > >> > >> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK > >> have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . > >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: > >> > >>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high > >>> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare > >>> I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading > >>> a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. > >>> > >>> Warm regards, > >>> > >>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>> > >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > >>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC > >>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>> > >>> Contact me: > >>> > >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > >>> > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>> > >>> > >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo > >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop > >>> your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking > >>> at the possibilities of ditchin
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard "mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah" and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be > shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, > will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 > above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards > like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal > how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. > > Shawn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Most cars are being made with iPod connections, and you can buy little lcd screen's to put on the back of seats when you travel. Who wants to limit themselves to just six discs, when you can have your whole library with you? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brandt Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: > Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses > 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find > out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid > packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same > for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used > for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much > smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported > at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as > expensive as you think. > > > On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: > >> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's >> cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same >> OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> Hello Brandt, >>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >>> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use >>> a thumbdrive for this. >>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. >>> So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time >>> debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the >>> simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a >>> single file on a cd to transfer it. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution
RE: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well, it would be even cheaper to just down load everything from the internet. I have 2000 movies, and 15 thousand songs, all on a nas server connected to my router, and I can stream it all to my TV, or PC. So yes I think physical CD's and DVD's are on their way out. As for my movies, I get equal quality to a Blu-ray disc, and adding more to my library each day. Wish red box would just let us stream to our TV's like block buster and Netflix and amazon on demand does. Now that would be perfect! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brandt Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: > True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's > cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same > OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> Hello Brandt, >> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >> thumbdrive for this. >> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So >> I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating >> which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest >> method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file >> on a cd to transfer it. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >>> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In >>> fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> If as you say, o
Moderator note Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Greetings, Sadly it seems that a reminder is in order that the number of subscribers and volume of list traffic is not conducive to off topic chat group messages. The discussion of recordings in computer readable format and/or distribution of media playable on the MacOS and IOS platforms are completely on topic and welcome, hence I am not requesting closure of the thread in its entirety. I do ask, however that as a group we please avoid ot chatty posts that add nothing substantive to the discussion of Apple products such as the following two examples. Of course this is applicable to all threads and not this one specifically. Also, a statement that you are aware that your post is inappropriate does not render it acceptable. On the contrary such disclaimers appear to be a declaration of a total lack of intent to work within the guidelines. Best regards, > Geoff On May 17, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: > Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? > > Isaac > - On May 17, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I > best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
chat forum anyone? On May 17, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: > Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? > > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it >> into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just >> waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more >> and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold >> in the palm of my hand. >> >> CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for >> your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them >> a little piece of forgotten history. >> On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >>> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down >>> the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy >>> too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get >>> so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm >>> clocks too. >>> >>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo >>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in >>>> the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the >>>> 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work >>>> for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be >>>> made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept >>>> it, the spinning disc is dead. >>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses >>>>> 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and >>>>> find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the >>>>> stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses >>>>> the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards, >>>>> >>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>> >>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>> >>>>> Contact me: >>>>> >>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) On 17 May 2011, at 16:28, Isaac Obie wrote: > Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? > > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it >> into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just >> waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more >> and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold >> in the palm of my hand. >> >> CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for >> your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them >> a little piece of forgotten history. >> On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >>> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down >>> the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy >>> too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get >>> so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm >>> clocks too. >>> >>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo >>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in >>>> the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the >>>> 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work >>>> for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be >>>> made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept >>>> it, the spinning disc is dead. >>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses >>>>> 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and >>>>> find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the >>>>> stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses >>>>> the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards, >>>>> >>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>> >>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>> >>>>> Contact me: >>>>> >>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>> -
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
So it is only a matter of time before we switch to digital distribution. This reality has become more possible with the introduction of the Mac App Store too. It is not uncommon for Apple to be bold and make the first step to ditch legacy peripherals. For example when they introduced the iMac, they also decided to only use USB and stopped supporting older serial and parallel interfaces for printers and mice etc. It took the PC world a few years to follow. Apple were the first to drop the floppy drive and go CD-R only. i think they were the first to provide combo super drives too. They are the first to provide thunderbolt before anyone else and it will be interesting to see where this takes us as the data speeds are lightening fast. Apple were the main adopters of Firewire too, the PC community pretty much ignored this apart from Sony who called it iLink. The future really is no moving parts and fast transfer feeds between appliances and direct links to the cloud without the need to connect to other devices first. On 17 May 2011, at 16:12, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it > into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting > for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll > have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm > of my hand. > > CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for > your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a > little piece of forgotten history. > On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the >> wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD >> car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much >> more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. >> >> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >> >>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in >>> the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the >>> house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 >>> front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, >>> and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made >>> smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the >>> spinning disc is dead. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses >>>> 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find >>>> out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid >>>> packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same >>>> for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlob
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the
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That price is off set by the price of the optical drives installed in every computer, not the price of the DVD the os would be on. And the purchase and installation of a optical drive is more than a thumb drive. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:48 AM, brandt wrote: > True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's > cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS > on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> Hello Brandt, >> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >> thumbdrive for this. >> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I >> am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which >> format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at >> the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to >> transfer it. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >>> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact >>> the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >>>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >>>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and >>>> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >>>> benefit to them and their customers. >>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any >>>> computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The is
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Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo > systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your > ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the > possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the > wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD > car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much > more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. > > you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. > On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: > >> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in >> the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the >> house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 >> front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, >> and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made >> smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the >> spinning disc is dead. >> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >> >>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses >>> 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find >>> out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid >>> packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same >>> for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used >>> for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much >>> smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported >>> at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as >>> expensive as you think. >>> >>> >>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's >>>> cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the same >>>> OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country
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Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: > Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G > mobile network? > On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > >> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available >> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After >> all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about >> were cassette. >> >> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently >> testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the >> fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ >> >> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have >> lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: >> >>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high >>> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I >>> live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 >>> or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >>> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down >>> the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy >>> too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get >>> so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm >>> clocks too. >>> >>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo >>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in >>&g
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Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same
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Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available > broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After > all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about > were cassette. > > In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently > testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the > fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ > > Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have > lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . > On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: > >> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high >> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I >> live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 >> or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the >> wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD >> car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much >> more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. >> >> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >> >>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in >>> the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the >>> house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 >>> front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, >>> and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made >>> smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the >>> spinning disc is dead. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:
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Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on pac
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Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: > I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high > spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I > live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or > 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo > systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your > ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the > possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the > wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD > car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much > more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. > > you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. > On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: > >> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in >> the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the >> house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 >> front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, >> and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made >> smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the >> spinning disc is dead. >> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >> >>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses >>> 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find >>> out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid >>> packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same >>> for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>>
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I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and
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Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: > Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non > computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in > the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the > house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 > front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and > so on and so on. I can keep going for days. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with > a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made > smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the > spinning disc is dead. > On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: > >> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 >> USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what >> it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging >> usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, >> and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used >> for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much >> smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported >> at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as >> expensive as you think. >> >> >> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: >> >>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's >>> cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same >>> OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>>> Hello Brandt, >>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >>>> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >>>> thumbdrive for this. >>>> I use the sa
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Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message ----- From: "brandt" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of
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Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: > Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 > USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what > it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging > usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, > and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for > Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much > smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at > a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive > as you think. > > > On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: > >> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's >> cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS >> on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> Hello Brandt, >>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >>> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >>> thumbdrive for this. >>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I >>> am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which >>> format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at >>> the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to >>> transfer it. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >>>> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In >>>> fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>>> >>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what
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Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: "brandt" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp ----- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what?
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The reason why you can't stick a thumb drive in your iPhone is because the card slot would take up valuable space, and of course if you could supply your own memory, then you may not buy the more expensive higher memory models of phone or be in a hurry to upgrade your phone. And yes you have to currently use your computer to pass data to your phone, but expect that to change with iOS 5 and the new Apple cloud services. On 17 May 2011, at 12:50, brandt wrote: > No, maybe you don't stick a disc in an iPhone, but neither do you stick a > thumb drive in your iPhone. You can't back up your phone without using a > computer, thus your comparison is irelivant. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not > even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD > or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in > storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to > cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD > in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac > or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. > > Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download > all the bells and whistles. > > I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but > that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a > posh 56k US Robotics :) > On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: > >> Hello Brandt, >> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >> thumbdrive for this. >> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I >> am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which >> format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at >> the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to >> transfer it. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >>> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact >>> the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >>>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >>>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >
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As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: > True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's > cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS > on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> Hello Brandt, >> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n >> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a >> thumbdrive for this. >> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I >> am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which >> format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at >> the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to >> transfer it. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - From: "brandt" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >>> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact >>> the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >>>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >>>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and >>>> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >>>> benefit to them and their customers. >>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any >>>> computer connected to a network is subject to being hack
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No, maybe you don't stick a disc in an iPhone, but neither do you stick a thumb drive in your iPhone. You can't back up your phone without using a computer, thus your comparison is irelivant. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: "brandt" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
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True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: "brandt" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised
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I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Brandt, > I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n > occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a > thumbdrive for this. > I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I > am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which > format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the > present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to > transfer it. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "brandt" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > >> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at >> least. They are still more expensive than disks. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact >> the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >> >>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and >>> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >>> benefit to them and their customers. >>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any >>> computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is >>> really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. >>> THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. >>> >>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> So what? >>>> >>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >>>> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >>>> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >>>> already on the wall. >>>> &
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Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: "brandt" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For mo
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
USB drives can be used to reinstall operating systems just as CD's and DVD's are. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: > If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if > whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a > DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer > whent crash, you're truely screwed! > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: > If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if > whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a > DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer > whent crash, you're truely screwed! > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Operating systems will be put on USB thumb drives like presently done for the new Macbook airs. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: > If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if > whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a > DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer > whent crash, you're truely screwed! > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well you could plug in an external DVD via USB, or maybe your OS could be backed up onto a memory card or a bootable portion could be available on your SSD drive. In all 10 years of having a Mac, I have never had to re-install my OS on any of my Machines. With Windows I think I used to reinstall it about once a month. But I agree with Riccardo and others, I think eventually the Mac will become the Macbook Air as standard. with cloud services and you would purchase your OS via the App Store. Apple were the first to ditch the floppy drive, did we survive without it? Yes! On 16 May 2011, at 17:36, brandt wrote: > If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if > whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a > DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer > whent crash, you're truely screwed! > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I've scene usb drives with write protect switches, or it might be a sd card inside a enclosure which allows for a write protect switch. They wouldn't have a need to really though; I'm guessing that if you managed to delete snow leopard from the drive it would be your problem, unless you were willing to pay Apple for another one. On 16/05/2011, louie wrote: > I wander how they write protect that thumdrive. > > On May 16, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > >> Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment >> with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard >> on it with the computer. >> >> On 16/05/2011, louie wrote: >>> Thumdrive. >>> On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do >>>> if >>>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off >>>> of >>>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>>> by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure >>>> and >>>> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >>>> benefit to them and their customers. >>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, >>>> any >>>> computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is >>>> really being on top of your systems and always watching for these >>>> issues. >>>> THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. >>>> >>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>> So what? >>>>> >>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always >>>>> be >>>>> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? >>>>> And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the >>>>> writing >>>>> is already on the wall. >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have >>>>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. >>>>>> You >>>>>> want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't >>>>>> be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of >>>>>> their optical drives. >>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just >>>>>> yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on >>>>>> the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down >>>>>> for >>>>>> the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity >>>>>> thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked >>>>>> into >>>>>> the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for >>>>>> digital >>>>>> distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I wander how they write protect that thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment > with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard > on it with the computer. > > On 16/05/2011, louie wrote: >> Thumdrive. >> On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: >> >>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >>> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >>> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >>> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and >>> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >>> benefit to them and their customers. >>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any >>> computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is >>> really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. >>> THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. >>> >>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> So what? >>>> >>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >>>> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? >>>> And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing >>>> is already on the wall. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have >>>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You >>>>> want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't >>>>> be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of >>>>> their optical drives. >>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just >>>>> yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on >>>>> the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for >>>>> the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity >>>>> thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into >>>>> the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital >>>>> distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks >>>>> into Itunes or the App Store. >>>>> Shawn >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. &g
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard on it with the computer. On 16/05/2011, louie wrote: > Thumdrive. > On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: > >> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if >> whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of >> a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only >> computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> ----- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and >> efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a >> benefit to them and their customers. >> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any >> computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is >> really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. >> THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> So what? >>> >>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >>> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? >>> And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing >>> is already on the wall. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >>> >>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have >>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You >>>> want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't >>>> be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of >>>> their optical drives. >>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just >>>> yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on >>>> the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for >>>> the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity >>>> thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into >>>> the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital >>>> distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks >>>> into Itunes or the App Store. >>>> Shawn >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: > If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if > whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a > DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer > whent crash, you're truely screwed! > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
User names and passwords are just like locks on doors. They are really there to keep honest men honest. A thief will always find a way no matter the security measures used. I agree with Ricardo on this one. CD's and DVD's are going the way of the vinyl records and eight track tapes. On May 16, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce > you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. > APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them > and their customers. > Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any > computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is > really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. > THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> So what? >> >> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be >> security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And >> digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is >> already on the wall. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> >>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >>> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >>> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >>> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >>> drives. >>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >>> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >>> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past >>> month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because >>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So >>> if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to >>> take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the >>> App Store. >>> Shawn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > So what? > > For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be > security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And > digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is > already on the wall. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, >> just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 >> years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. >> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I >> know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, >> you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. >> As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the >> reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you >> ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take >> effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App >> Store. >> Shawn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. > Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, > amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, > just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 > years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. > I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I > know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, > you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. > As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason > why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, > it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I > wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. > Shawn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Yeah, But thats besides the point. eventually, you'll finished ripping them and have 1 less need for an optical drive. And in the future, you won't be purchasing CDs. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 15, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > I still have a mountain of CDS that I'm trying to rip. > On May 15, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, >> amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an >> app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised >> in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical >> drives. >> >> JMO >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On May 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. and >>> decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, and >>> power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a >>> Macbook Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller >>> screen. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, >>> just the thought of Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 >>> with a broken cdRom drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. >>> Now *that* was bulky lol. >>> >>> On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be > assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars > for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> SSD is still a bit pricy though. >> On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a >>> faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the >>> Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard >>> drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state >>> drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari >>> just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you >>> don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need >>> something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you >>> need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and >>> storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd >>> love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be >>> appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I >>> showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Hi: The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Steph, > > The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On > the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. > > If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better > machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. > > I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a > MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives > of various types. > > It's all a matter of preference and needs. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > >> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro >> I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple >> retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new >> machine. >> Steph >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>
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You might be right, I think at this time if it were me making this decision, I'd still get an MBP. We're getting close to saying goodbye to optical drives, but not there yet. In my case, I have too much purchased media I want in my computer to forgo an optical drive. If the OP wanted the speed of an SSD, they could always buy a Macbook Pro with that option. On May 15, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, > amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, > just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 > years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. > > JMO > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. and >> decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, and >> power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a >> Macbook Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller >> screen. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, >> just the thought of Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 >> with a broken cdRom drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. Now >> *that* was bulky lol. >> >> On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is >>> when I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I >>> also need the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. >>> On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > SSD is still a bit pricy though. > On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a >> faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the >> Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard >> drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state >> drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari >> just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you >> don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need >> something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you >> need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and >> storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd >> love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be >> appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I >> showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro > I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple > retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new > machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more
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I still have a mountain of CDS that I'm trying to rip. On May 15, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, > amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, > just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 > years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. > > JMO > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. and >> decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, and >> power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a >> Macbook Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller >> screen. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, >> just the thought of Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 >> with a broken cdRom drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. Now >> *that* was bulky lol. >> >> On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is >>> when I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I >>> also need the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. >>> On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > SSD is still a bit pricy though. > On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a >> faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the >> Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard >> drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state >> drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari >> just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you >> don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need >> something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you >> need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and >> storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd >> love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be >> appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I >> showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro > I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple > retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new > machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googleg
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi: You can get a MBP with 750GB HD. I want one. LOL On May 15, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > I believe you can get a MacBook Pro with a 500 GB SSD. Anyone have > one? Is it super fast? > > Eric > > On 5/15/11, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when >> I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need >> the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. >> On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be >>> assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars >>> for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Hi: SSD is still a bit pricy though. On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a > faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the > Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard > drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state > drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari > just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you > don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need > something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you > need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and > storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd > love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be > appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I > showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Steph, >>> >>> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On >>> the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >>> >>> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better >>> machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >>> >>> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a >>> MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives >>> of various types. >>> >>> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Yeah I've only needed the external DVD drive with my Air once or twice. With that said, there will probably still be quite a bit of stuff that is only available on disc, at least for now. Netflix's streaming library definitely leaves a little to be desired. For instance, only the second and third Lord of the Rings films are available. Makes no sense for them not to have the complete trilogy. Eric On 5/15/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, > amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an > app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised > in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical > drives. > > JMO > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On May 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. >> and decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, >> and power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a >> Macbook Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller >> screen. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, >> just the thought of Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 >> with a broken cdRom drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. >> Now *that* was bulky lol. >> >> On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is >>> when I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I >>> also need the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. >>> On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > SSD is still a bit pricy though. > On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a >> faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than >> the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical >> hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid >> state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. >> Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if >> you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really >> need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what >> you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production >> and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. >> I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it >> would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook >> Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro > I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple > retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new > machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >>>
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. JMO Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. and > decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, and > power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a Macbook > Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller screen. Don't > get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, just the thought of > Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 with a broken cdRom > drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. Now *that* was bulky lol. > > On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when >> I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need >> the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. >> On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be >>> assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for >>> 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Hi: SSD is still a bit pricy though. On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a > faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the > Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard > drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state > drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari > just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't > have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something > light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of > course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots > of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an > Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a > primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable > restraint in not buying an Air. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Steph, >>> >>> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On >>> the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >>> >>> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better >>> machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >>> >>> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a >>> MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of >>> various types. >>> >>> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Here's also something to consider. Let's say the OP goes with an Air. and decides to travel, by the time you pack an Air, an external dvd drive, and power cables, the weight could add up to almost the same as packing a Macbook Pro. You just wouldn't need as big of a case for the smaller screen. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and lightness of the Air, just the thought of Modularity reminds me of when I once had an ibook g4 with a broken cdRom drive, thus necessitating the need for an external. Now *that* was bulky lol. On May 15, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when > I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need > the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. > On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be >> assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for >> 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> SSD is still a bit pricy though. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. > On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Steph, >> >> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On >> the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >> >> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, >> and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >> >> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a >> MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of >> various types. >> >> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >> >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd >>> had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple >>> retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new >>> machine. >>> Steph >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I believe you can get a MacBook Pro with a 500 GB SSD. Anyone have one? Is it super fast? Eric On 5/15/11, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when > I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need > the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. > On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be >> assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars >> for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> SSD is still a bit pricy though. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. > On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Steph, >> >> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On >> the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >> >> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better >> machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >> >> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a >> MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives >> of various types. >> >> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >> >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro >>> I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple >>> retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new >>> machine. >>> Steph >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@google
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Oh, I know the price will drop, and the GB space will increase. That is when I'd conceder an air, right now, SSD is still a bit pricy though. I also need the storage space for my music, and Tivo shows. On May 14, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be > assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for > 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> SSD is still a bit pricy though. >> On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster >>> processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and >>> boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to >>> play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a >>> huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up >>> instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of >>> storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very >>> portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an >>> everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is >>> definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second >>> machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. >>> Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not >>> buying an Air. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Hi: The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Steph, > > The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the > plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. > > If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, > and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. > > I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a > MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of > various types. > > It's all a matter of preference and needs. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > >> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd >> had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple >> retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. >> Steph >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Of course it is. That's a lot of why the Air base config is only 64GB. Be assured, it will come down. Remember when you'd pay hundreds of dollars for 250MB (yes, MB) drives? Or, better yet, 40MB ones? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 14, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > SSD is still a bit pricy though. > On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster >> processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and >> boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to >> play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a >> huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, >> and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs >> to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the >> Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday >> machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a >> good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't >> think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my >> Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >>> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd > had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer > said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi: SSD is still a bit pricy though. On May 13, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster > processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and > boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to > play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a > huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, > and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs > to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air > may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine > for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit > at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it > would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but > I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Steph, >>> >>> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the >>> plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >>> >>> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, >>> and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >>> >>> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook >>> Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various >>> types. >>> >>> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi all. This mac will be used for the kids to do school work and the internet. I have an imac for every day use. And an ipod touch. Steph - Original Message - From: Buddy Brannan That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
The macbook air is much thinner, but not as powerful. You would probably get more for the money with a macbook pro, or you could just get the regular macbook. On May 13, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had > for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said > it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Oh, I know that, but seriously, the SSD is very fast. Much faster than I would have expected even under ideal conditions. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Everything boots up fast when it's new and doesn't have much stored on it. > But as time goes on, as you do more with it, it will eventually slow down. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:51 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster > processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and > boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to > play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a > huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, > and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs > to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the > Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday > machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a > good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't > think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my > Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. >> On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Steph, >>> >>> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the > plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >>> >>> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, > and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >>> >>> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a > MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of > various types. >>> >>> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >>> >>>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd > had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer > said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. >>>> Steph >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
On 5/13/11, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Everything boots up fast when it's new and doesn't have much stored on it. Of course this is true. But the solid state is lightning fast when compared to a mechanical drive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: macbook pro or macbook air?
Everything boots up fast when it's new and doesn't have much stored on it. But as time goes on, as you do more with it, it will eventually slow down. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macbook pro or macbook air? That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. > On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Steph, >> >> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >> >> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >> >> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. >> >> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >> >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. >>> Steph >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
That's not necessarily so. While you get more hard disk space and a faster processor, the Pro is significantly thicker and heavier than the Air, and boots up more slowly owing to still using a mechanical hard drive. I got to play a bit with an Air last week, and the solid state drive really makes a huge difference in how quickly things open. Safari just popped up instantly, and I really do mean instantly. So if you don't have a lot of storage needs to carry with you, and really need something light and very portable, the Air may well be just what you need. Of course, if you need an everyday machine for production and storing lots of stuff, an Air is definitely not a good fit at all. I'd love to have an Air for a second machine, but I don't think it would be appropriate as a primary machine. Yep, I do love my Macbook Pro, but I showed remarkable restraint in not buying an Air. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. > On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Steph, >> >> The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the >> plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. >> >> If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and >> you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. >> >> I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook >> Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various >> types. >> >> It's all a matter of preference and needs. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: >> >>> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had >>> for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said >>> it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. >>> Steph >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi: The Pro gives you more bang for your buck. Go with the Pro. On May 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Steph, > > The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the > plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. > > If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and > you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. > > I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook > Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. > > It's all a matter of preference and needs. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > >> What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had >> for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said >> it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. >> Steph >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hello Steph, The MacBook Air has no DVD drive, no FireWire, just two USB ports. On the plus side, it's incredibly thin and light. If you have no other computer, the MacBook Pro is a much better machine, and you can have a much bigger hard drive in it too. I've just ordered a MacBook Air, but I already have a MacBook and a MacBook Pro available to me, as well as several external hard drives of various types. It's all a matter of preference and needs. Cheers, Anne On 13 May 2011, at 13:26, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > What are the differences between these two machines? My macbook pro I'd had > for 2 years. The kids spilt something on it, and the apple retrailer said > it's not repaira. So i'm in the market for a new machine. > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
HI, SL will have more computing power using the Video card if I understood the Apple keynote correctly. This means that you can use your Video card as extra CPU. This is public information released by Apple. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jul-09, at 11:52 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the > advantage of the Pro using the video card? > > Thanks > > James > - Original Message - > From: "peter Apgar " > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb >> won't >> in >> the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a >> sales >> rep when I purchased the I phone. >> >> Pete >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >> Thanks Brett, >> >> I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and >> talking to >> a >> few other people too. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brett Campbell" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >>> >>> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that >>> will >>> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in >>> Snowleopard. >>> >>> Brett >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>>> MacBook or >>>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>>> price is a >>>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>>> my 1st >>>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>>> MacBooks or >>>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>>> choose >>>> between them. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
Thanks Pete, I'll look at getting it asap. James - Original Message - From: "peter Apgar " To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > The benefits to the video card are, with the new release of leopard it can > use the processing power of the video card on other tasks then video. > This > makes it quicker then the standard processor during heavy operating loads. > It should also bump the capacity of programs running consecutively. > > Enjoy the purchasing experience. > > Pete > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:52 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > > Hi Pete, > > Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the > advantage of the Pro using the video card? > > Thanks > > James > - Original Message ----- > From: "peter Apgar " > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't >> in >> the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales >> rep when I purchased the I phone. >> >> Pete >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >> Thanks Brett, >> >> I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking >> to > >> a >> few other people too. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brett Campbell" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >>> >>> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >>> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. >>> >>> Brett >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>>> MacBook or >>>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>>> price is a >>>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>>> my 1st >>>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>>> MacBooks or >>>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>>> choose >>>> between them. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook
The benefits to the video card are, with the new release of leopard it can use the processing power of the video card on other tasks then video. This makes it quicker then the standard processor during heavy operating loads. It should also bump the capacity of programs running consecutively. Enjoy the purchasing experience. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook Hi Pete, Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the advantage of the Pro using the video card? Thanks James - Original Message - From: "peter Apgar " To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't > in > the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales > rep when I purchased the I phone. > > Pete > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > > Thanks Brett, > > I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking to > a > few other people too. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message ----- > From: "Brett Campbell" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. >> >> Brett >> >> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>> MacBook or >>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>> price is a >>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>> my 1st >>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>> MacBooks or >>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>> choose >>> between them. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
the macbook i ahve has yeilded no major problems that i can think of. - Original Message - From: "James & Nash" To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > I think too taht the processors are slightly faster and considering the > trouble I had with my old MacBook, maybe I will opt for the slightly more > expensive model but who knows. > > thanks > - Original Message - > From: "will" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:20 AM > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> look it comes down to this :) >> 1. do youw ant the new gesture-based technology in leopard? if so, get >> the >> pro >> 2. If you just want a macbook go for that i think the video card is the >> only >> difference >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "James & Nash" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:52 AM >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >>> >>> Hi Pete, >>> >>> Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the >>> advantage of the Pro using the video card? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "peter Apgar " >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM >>> Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook >>> >>> >>>> >>>> The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb >>>> won't >>>> in >>>> the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a >>>> sales >>>> rep when I purchased the I phone. >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Brett, >>>> >>>> I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking >>>> to >>>> a >>>> few other people too. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> James >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Brett Campbell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM >>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >>>>> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in >>>>> Snowleopard. >>>>> >>>>> Brett >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>>>>> MacBook or >>>>>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>>>>> price is a >>>>>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>>>>> my 1st >>>>>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>>>>> MacBooks or >>>>>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>>>>> choose >>>>>> between them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
I think too taht the processors are slightly faster and considering the trouble I had with my old MacBook, maybe I will opt for the slightly more expensive model but who knows. thanks - Original Message - From: "will" To: Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > look it comes down to this :) > 1. do youw ant the new gesture-based technology in leopard? if so, get the > pro > 2. If you just want a macbook go for that i think the video card is the > only > difference > > - Original Message - > From: "James & Nash" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the >> advantage of the Pro using the video card? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "peter Apgar " >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM >> Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >>> >>> The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't >>> in >>> the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a >>> sales >>> rep when I purchased the I phone. >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash >>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >>> >>> >>> Thanks Brett, >>> >>> I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking >>> to >>> a >>> few other people too. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Brett Campbell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >>> >>> >>>> >>>> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >>>> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in >>>> Snowleopard. >>>> >>>> Brett >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>>>> MacBook or >>>>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>>>> price is a >>>>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>>>> my 1st >>>>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>>>> MacBooks or >>>>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>>>> choose >>>>> between them. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
look it comes down to this :) 1. do youw ant the new gesture-based technology in leopard? if so, get the pro 2. If you just want a macbook go for that i think the video card is the only difference - Original Message - From: "James & Nash" To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > Hi Pete, > > Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the > advantage of the Pro using the video card? > > Thanks > > James > - Original Message - > From: "peter Apgar " > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't >> in >> the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales >> rep when I purchased the I phone. >> >> Pete >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >> Thanks Brett, >> >> I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking >> to >> a >> few other people too. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brett Campbell" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook >> >> >>> >>> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >>> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. >>> >>> Brett >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>>> MacBook or >>>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>>> price is a >>>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>>> my 1st >>>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>>> MacBooks or >>>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>>> choose >>>> between them. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
Hi Pete, Thank you, but as I am not able to se the screen, what would be the advantage of the Pro using the video card? Thanks James - Original Message - From: "peter Apgar " To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't > in > the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales > rep when I purchased the I phone. > > Pete > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > > Thanks Brett, > > I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking to > a > few other people too. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Brett Campbell" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > >> >> The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will >> come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. >> >> Brett >> >> On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >>> MacBook or >>> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >>> price is a >>> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >>> my 1st >>> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >>> MacBooks or >>> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >>> choose >>> between them. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook
The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't in the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales rep when I purchased the I phone. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook Thanks Brett, I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking to a few other people too. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Brett Campbell" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will > come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. > > Brett > > On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >> MacBook or >> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >> price is a >> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >> my 1st >> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >> MacBooks or >> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >> choose >> between them. >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
Thanks Brett, I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking to a few other people too. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Brett Campbell" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will > come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. > > Brett > > On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >> MacBook or >> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >> price is a >> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >> my 1st >> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >> MacBooks or >> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >> choose >> between them. >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. Brett On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the > MacBook or > the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the > price is a > litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with > my 1st > generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their > MacBooks or > MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to > choose > between them. > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
Thanks Alex - Original Message - From: "Alex Jurgensen" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook > > Hi, > > MBP, A.K.A. the pro is lighter. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 9-Jul-09, at 3:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the >> MacBook or >> the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the >> price is a >> litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with >> my 1st >> generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their >> MacBooks or >> MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to >> choose >> between them. >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook
Hi, MBP, A.K.A. the pro is lighter. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jul-09, at 3:31 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the > MacBook or > the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the > price is a > litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with > my 1st > generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their > MacBooks or > MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to > choose > between them. > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
