RE: Voiceover Hanging with Audio Cutting in and Out
Hello Kevin, Have you confirmed your audio source in the Sound preferences pane? A while back, I had installed a program that added an additional audio source to my list of possible sources. From time-to-time, the source would switch to the third-party source at which time I would experience audio cut-out, such as you describe. My point, just make certain that your output is set to your desired speakers such as the internal speakers. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Voiceover Hanging with Audio Cutting in and Out Further to a message I posted last week. running 10.11.3 on mid-2009 Macbook Pro. I don’t customize Voiceover that much, so not running activities or anything like that. I’m encountering and issue where system audio cuts in and out. Voiceover seems to hang while this is happening and picks up reading where it left off. I have turned off sound effects in VO Utility and the problem went away for a bit but now it’s back, as I thought there may have been audio interference. Wondering if anyone has encountered this. Could this be a hardware issue? Kevin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Please Join Me in Requesting That a Significant VoiceOver and iOS Twitter App Bug Be Resolved
Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. A couple of months ago, a new feature was added to Twitter, called Moments. Essentially, Twitter Moments is a birds-eye view of current events happening around the world. It's really quite an exciting way to easily follow trending issues of the day on a variety of subject including news, sports, entertainment, etc. If you log into your Twitter account using your preferred web browser, you will discover the Moments tab located near the top of the browser window. However, should you open the native iOS Twitter app, the Moments tab is nowhere to be found. This has been perplexing me for a while now until I discovered the problem, said problem being a bug between VoiceOver and the Native Twitter app. I will paste in the bug report I posted to the iTunes App Store, following my signature and I invite everyone to please submit a review to the App Store describing this bug. Feel free to use any or all of my report in your review. Also, I encourage all of you Twitter users to send a tweet to both @support and @twitter from within your preferred Twitter client, addressing this issue. With so many important world events taking place at this time, I feel that it is most urgent that we, as blind and low vision citizens, be part of the conversation. Thank you, Mark [BEGIN BUG REPORT] A Bug With Twitter Moments and VoiceOver in iOS Twitter moments is one of the most exciting new features now being enjoyed by thousands of iOS Twitter app users. However, when VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision, is enabled, the Moments Tab, does not appear. In order to get the Moments Tab to be displayed, VoiceOver must first be disabled, then the Twitter app must be launched, then, VoiceOver re-enabled at which time a Twitter warning message appears prompting the blind or low vision person to close and restart Twitter with VoiceOver enabled. Of course, doing this will cause the Moments Tab to, once again, disappear. I urge Twitter to address this accessibility bug as soon as possible. [END BUG REPORT] -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Official Moderator Contact?
Hello Sabahattin, I am the moderator of this group. You may send me a direct email at mk...@ucla.edu in order to discuss posting your product for sale. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:43 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Official Moderator Contact? Bloody Google Groups. I have a Mac for sale. How do I get to the moderator-person to approve the ad [1]? I see no obvious way from either Google’s own web interface or the email help autoresponder. Only the owner contact is listed, and my recollection is that the owner is Cara who presumably doesn’t need to be bothered with this. Help appreciated. Cheers, Sabahattin [1] A well-intentioned but silly rule, IMO. The quality of a sale can’t be judged from the ad, alas. Probably better to accept or ban all ads, and absolve yourselves of responsibility. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Official Moderator Contact?
Shaf, As the list moderator, let me say that you are quite incorrect. Both Cara and I care a great deal about what is posted to this list. The list policies require that members first obtain permission before posting any products for sale. Thank you all for observing the list policies. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Official Moderator Contact? Just advertise, nobody cares if you want to sell a Mac on list. On 2/6/2016 2:42 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > Bloody Google Groups. > > I have a Mac for sale. How do I get to the moderator-person to approve the > ad [1]? I see no obvious way from either Google’s own web interface or the > email help autoresponder. Only the owner contact is listed, and my > recollection is that the owner is Cara who presumably doesn’t need to be > bothered with this. > > Help appreciated. > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > [1] A well-intentioned but silly rule, IMO. The quality of a sale can’t be > judged from the ad, alas. Probably better to accept or ban all ads, and > absolve yourselves of responsibility. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Contacts not syncing properly again
Hello Andrew, Most likely, you have resolved this problem but, just in case you have not, resolving it is simply a matter of signing out of iCloud on all of your devices, at least, the ones you are currently using, and then signing back in. If this does not work, then, while signed out on a particular device, reboot the device before signing back into iCloud. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 2:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Contacts not syncing properly again Hi, This is my predicament: earlier today, I added a new entry into my contacts on the iPhone. But when I opened contacts on my mac, it's not there. I'm signed into the same icloud account on my iphone and mac and yet the new entries do not seem to update. Am I missing something? Please help if you have any ideas. Best wishes Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them?
Hello Chris and Everyone, I apologize for my delay in addressing this thread sooner. I've been having connectivity problems thanks to my ISP. Regardless, let me thank all of you for insisting that the list policies be adhered to and for being good honest people. Just so you know, I have placed Shaf on moderated status. Happy Valentine's Day to all. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them? You know... First, it's Shaft wanting to go against the rules of the beta NDA's back in the days, then, it's Shaft saying who cares about the rule stating that we cannot sell things on list and Mark the other day having to call him out on list about this. Now, it's him promoting to look around for cracked software. I dono about you guys, but it's quite obvious he doesn't give two cents less about the rules of this list. Mark, and Cara? Let me be, perhaps the first to put in my vote. I think this guy should be banned from the list. Enough said. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then go look at the below thread. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Shaf" To: Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 1:20 AM Subject: Re: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them? There are cracks. Look around. On 2/13/2016 2:13 AM, BBS wrote: > Adrian, I agree with E.T. Besides, there is no crack to get the voices for > the new Infovox engine which is 4.3 and even if there was, this list > forbids that kind of thing. Besides, $15 per voice isn't that much money. > If you can't save $15 for a voice, sorry if this is too harsh but that's > kinda sad and you should just stick with what Apple gives you. > > > Shawn > Sent from my White MacBook > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:21 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for > them? > > i am trying to get the infovox voices to use for the mac and voice over > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you a
RE: to the moderator or owners of this group
Hello Zoe, This is Mark. I want you to know that both Cara and I have received your comments. Also, in a couple of days, I will update the signature of this group to include my email address. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: to the moderator or owners of this group Hi there I don’t mean to be a prude or anything, but it bothers me when comments are made about anyone’s religion. I don’t mind signatures quoting religious items or making references to ones religion. However when someone makes statements to ones religion it bothers me. You know best what to do, but a suggestion, I would like it if no one makes direct comments about religion, and or criticism of any one religion. If I have over stepped my bounds please forgive me. I couldn’t find the direct links to contact owner or moderator, so please again accept my appologies. If the rest of the group doesn’t agree with my opinion, I will accept that, I just wanted to voice what bothers me. Regards Zoe -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
To The List About The Recent Spam
Hello Everyone, I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to shut down the Alex screen reader this morning. At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for posting offensive language. For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the members list of this group, I could not find it. Yet, the posts continued to come to the list. I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list. To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in any groups. So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I think I located the right address. Only time will tell. Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances. For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer, as well. Very, very annoying. Like others in this groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of the problem. Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get through it. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: To The List About The Recent Spam
Terje, Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable. Do not, under any circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Terje Strømberg Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it again. Very bad. Take care 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev Marie Lyons : I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes. Marie > On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and > Alex to be your default voice. It seems as if somehow the announcements are > made by a different voice rather than default. > > hope this helps. > > Andrew >> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons wrote: >> >> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 >> different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make >> the announcements. I don’t like this. I have no idea why I can’t fix it. >> >> Marie Lyons >>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: >>> >>> Marie, >>> >>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility. VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category >>> table. Arrow to the Speech option. VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & >>> move right to the voice options. Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down >>> Arrow to the Configure option. Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or >>> Fred. Wait for it to download & then select it. That’ll do it. >>> >>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text >>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut >>> down. It’s real cute. I hope he reaps what he’s sown. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> CJ >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons wrote: >>>> >>>> My v/o keeps shutting down. What can I do to fix it? >>>> >>>> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t >>>> figure it out. Help greatly appreciated >>>> >>>> Marie Lyons >>>>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string >>>>> to shut down the Alex screen reader this morning. >>>>> >>>>> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and >>>>> recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the >>>>> V iPhone list, for posting offensive language. >>>>> >>>>> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in >>>>> the members list of this group, I could not find it. Yet, the >>>>> posts continued to come to the list. >>>>> >>>>> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon >>>>> returning home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the >>>>> user and first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him >>>>> from the list. >>>>> >>>>> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen >>>>> in any groups. So, it is possible, more messages will come >>>>> through but I think I located the right address. Only time will tell. >>>>> >>>>> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention >>>>> and am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances. >>>>> >>>>> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech >>>>> synthesizer, as well. Very, very annoying. Like others in this >>>>> groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen >>>>> reader to discover the source of the problem. >>>
RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay
Two more things to consider when using Apple Pay, Sarai, 1. The terminal transmitter is not necessarily directly adjacent to the terminal's display. When I first began using Apple Pay, I would virtually lay the phone against the display of the terminal, while this usually worked, it did not always work. I discovered, over time, that, in some cases, the actual transmitter can be as far as 4 inches above the display. 2. If you have your phone in a case, make certain that the case is not impeding the signal. I'm almost certain this is not the problem but, nevertheless, it is something to consider. For the record, I use a folio style leather case, made by Case Mate, and have never encountered a problem based on the case. Just wanted to offer this for your consideration. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay Hi: I did. Says default card. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Did you verify that the credit card was fully authorized? Go back into your > wallet and read the details of the offending card. > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 20:25, Sarai Bucciarelli >> wrote: >> >> Hi guys: >> I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get it to work! >> I went to Sprouts, and Petco, who have apple pay. I held my phone up to the >> reader. Phone vibrated, and brought up my credit card. I touched the finger >> id. nothing happened! I cannot figure it out! >> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's
RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay
Sarai, It sounds to me as though you were either not close enough to the actual transmitter which usually sits about 3 to 4 inches above the terminal's display or, somehow, the case was impeding the transmission. I suggest that you attempt a transaction with the phone out of the case and see what happens. Also, locate the actual transmitter with your hand before beginning the process. After a while, you will learn where the transmitters sit, relative to the display, at various vendors. For example, all of the Macdonald terminals are the same, just as those at Whole Foods are the same. If you frequent a particular vendor, enough, you will remember where to place the phone for each. If this sounds complicated, remember that the world is made for sighted people. To a sighted patron, 1 or 2 inches in any direction is of no consequence as hand-eye coordination is virtually instantaneous. However, for those of us who are blind or low vision, 1 or 2 inches may just as well be one or two miles, proverbially speaking. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay Hi Mark: I do not have my phone in a normal case. I have the Spek case that covers the back, and a Zagg glass screen protector. I was laying my phone on top of the terminal then moving up a bit. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Two more things to consider when using Apple Pay, Sarai, > > 1. > The terminal transmitter is not necessarily directly adjacent to the > terminal's display. When I first began using Apple Pay, I would virtually > lay the phone against the display of the terminal, while this usually worked, > it did not always work. I discovered, over time, that, in some cases, the > actual transmitter can be as far as 4 inches above the display. > > 2. > If you have your phone in a case, make certain that the case is not impeding > the signal. I'm almost certain this is not the problem but, nevertheless, it > is something to consider. For the record, I use a folio style leather case, > made by Case Mate, and have never encountered a problem based on the case. > Just wanted to offer this for your consideration. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:51 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay > > Hi: > I did. Says default card. >> On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >> Did you verify that the credit card was fully authorized? Go back into your >> wallet and read the details of the offending card. >> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 20:25, Sarai Bucciarelli >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys: >>> I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get it to work! >>> I went to Sprouts, and Petco, who have apple pay. I held my phone up to the >>> reader. Phone vibrated, and brought up my credit card. I touched the finger >>> id. nothing happened! I cannot figure it out! >>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you h
A Question About Audio Descriptive Movies in iTunes
Hello All, I am posting this question to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. My primary question: Is the audio description track included when renting a movie from iTunes? or must one purchase the movie in order to receive the audio description track. My secondary question: If a movie debuted with an audio description track in the theater, does it follow that the movie will include that track in the iTunes store version of the movie? Here's my situation: Last summer I saw the movie entitled "Edge of Tomorrow", in the theater, complete with audio description. To me, it was a fabulous movie. Just so you know, the film is now marketed and sold under the title, "Live die Repeat". A couple of days ago, a sighted friend of mine rented Live die Repeat, from the iTunes Store. She watched it on her iPad. Even though many titles, in the iTunes Store, are not listed as having audio description, I was hoping that, like so many others, given that the film was released with audio description in the theater, the track would be included on the download. According to her, she could not hear any audio description despite having the settings on her iPad configured correctly. I should probably add that, to my dismay, I discovered that the DVD copy of this title, I purchased when it was first made available, did not include the audio description track, either. I would so much like to enjoy this movie again but I fear, that, unless I can locate a version that includes the audio description track, I will not be able to relive the experience of "Edge of Tomorrow". All replies most welcomed. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Adding or Moving Contacts Between Groups in iOS
Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this. I feel as though I am in the Twilight Zone, today. (smile) Is there a natively Apple iOS method of moving Contacts between groups? >From what I can discover, there is not. If I go to iCloud.com I can manage groups and move contacts between them using a very visual method. That is to say, one has to click and drag the contacts to the various groups. This is, in no way, blind or low-vision friendly. Now I realize that there are third-party iOS apps that many use and recommend, however, I do not like the idea of giving a third-party app access to my contacts list. Perhaps this can be done in OS X? I seem to remember that this subject was discussed a while back on the Mac Visionaries mailing list. Thank you all for your help on this one. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Adding or Moving Contacts Between Groups in iOS
Hello George, With your consent, I would prefer to keep this, on-list, as I think others may find the discussion useful. So, last night, I opened up the Contacts app in OS X. Under the View Menu, I selected to show the Groups List. After doing this, I was able to see the various lists I created on iCloud.com. How does one add an existing Contact to various groups in OS X? Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Basioli George Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adding or Moving Contacts Between Groups in iOS you can only do it in i o s with third party apps. it is easy to do in contacts in o s x if you have any questions contact me off list > On Feb 24, 2016, at 21:36 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I am cross-posting this. > > I feel as though I am in the Twilight Zone, today. (smile) > > Is there a natively Apple iOS method of moving Contacts between groups? > > From what I can discover, there is not. > > If I go to iCloud.com I can manage groups and move contacts between > them using a very visual method. That is to say, one has to click and > drag the contacts to the various groups. This is, in no way, blind or > low-vision friendly. > > Now I realize that there are third-party iOS apps that many use and > recommend, however, I do not like the idea of giving a third-party app > access to my contacts list. > > Perhaps this can be done in OS X? I seem to remember that this > subject was discussed a while back on the Mac Visionaries mailing list. > > Thank you all for your help on this one. > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: cannot sign in to iTunes anymore
Hello Ray, I am not having any problems signing into iTunes. If you will provide the steps, however, I will be happy to try to reproduce your issue. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:30 PM To: Mac Visionaries List Subject: cannot sign in to iTunes anymore Is anybody having trouble signing in using iTunes? I went to turn on Home sharing this morning and it would not turn on no matter what I did. So, I signed out of iTunes on my Mac thinking that might help. Now, I cannot sign back in. I can see that I'm signed in on the app store, and I can sign in using Safari but I cannot do it using iTunes. I have the latest of everything and it's not working. Any thoughts? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: cannot sign in to iTunes anymore
Hello Ray, Sadly, I cannot reproduce your problem. iTunes is letting me login without any problem, even when I follow your steps. Ray, do you have any vision? Is it possible that there is some kind of dialog box being displayed that VoiceOver is not announcing? Can you log into and out of the iTunes app on your phone? Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: cannot sign in to iTunes anymore Getting no error at all. I click the sign in button and am not even seeing the window where you enter your Apple ID or password. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! On Feb 25, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: What error are you getting? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Is anybody having trouble signing in using iTunes? I went to turn on Home sharing this morning and it would not turn on no matter what I did. So, I signed out of iTunes on my Mac thinking that might help. Now, I cannot sign back in. I can see that I'm signed in on the app store, and I can sign in using Safari but I cannot do it using iTunes. I have the latest of everything and it's not working. Any thoughts? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionar
MeetUp, A Great App for Those Who Want to Widen Their Social Circles
Hello Everyone, I am delighted to see that the MeetUp app, for iOS, is now VoiceOver accessible. This is a free app. The app is free to use in order to find and join meet ups, however, one must pay a fee in order to actually create/organize a new meet up group. I will paste in the direct link to the app followed by the app's description as listed in the App Store. If you like this app, please send an email to the developer thanking them for their efforts. Mark Download the app by using: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meetup-groups-near-you-that/id375990038?mt=8 Description Meetup makes community real. Our app helps you see what's happening with groups of people near you that share your interests. And now it's easier than ever to stay up to date on the go with Meetup for Apple Watch. Want to start a new Meetup and become an organizer? Set up your subscription and pay right from the app. As always, Meetup is free to download and free to use for members. Featured by Apple in "Best New Apps" and "Great Free Apps" People meetup around the things that matter most to them. Popular Meetups include: Tech Meetup groups Moms Meetup groups Dads Meetup groups Fitness Meetup groups Hiking Meetup groups Career and Networking Meetup groups Support Meetup groups Book Club Meetup groups Photography Meetup groups New in Town Meetup groups Dog Meetup groups Language Meetup groups and 1000s more! Subscription Plans: Anyone who wishes to organize a Meetup may subscribe through the app. An organizer subscription entitles you to create up to three Meetups with an unlimited number of members and co-organizers. Meetup offers 1-month and 6-month subscription plans based on the location of your Meetup. Prices for Meetups created in the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia: Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99 All other countries: Unlimited 1-Month: $9.99 Unlimited 6-Month: $29.99 Your subscription will automatically renew at the end of your billing period, and your credit card will be charged through your iTunes account. You can turn off auto-renew at any time from your iTunes account Settings. Questions or Concerns? Please contact us at supp...@meetup.com. We respond to every inquiry. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Moderator NOTE: Regarding Anne Robertson's New Book and Copyrighted Material, in General
Hello Everyone, Although I try to read every post to the list, from time-to-time, a thread escapes my attention. This was the case regarding the thread on Anne Robertson's new book on the Pages application. Certain posts to that thread were forwarded to me and while I was so delighted to see that many of us do not condone violating the copyrights of others, I feel it necessary to comment on this matter so that future posters will be aware of the list policy on such issues. Simply stated, this group will not tolerate any post advocating theft, intellectual or otherwise by one member against another. Anyone who post to the list stating that they intend to copy, without permission, the property, intellectual or otherwise, of another member will be banned from the group. Please read the above carefully as neither Cara nor I have any problem with members discussing whether or not DRM is good or bad. What we are stating is that we will not tolerate one member posting that he/she intends to copy, without permission, the work, intellectual or otherwise, of another member. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Tim Cook Introduces a New Way to Receive Support for Your Apple Products
Hello Everyone, I am cross posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. Those of you who follow Tim Cook on Twitter, as I do, saw a tweet from him, earlier today, introducing, @AppleSupport. @AppleSupport is yet another way Apple customers can now receive support for all of their Apple products via Twitter. I am already following @AppleSupport and, for the time being, I have my settings such that I will be automatically notified of any tweets posted by @AppleSupport. You may wish to do the same. While on the subject of Twitter, those of you who, like me, want to see Twitter Moments be made VoiceOver accessible in the native iOS Twitter app, can send a message to @ support via your Twitter client or you may send an email, requesting the feature, to, supp...@twitter.com Finally, my personal Twitter handle/name is @Markmarcus. See you on Twitter. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Tim Cook Introduces a New Way to Receive Support for Your Apple Products
Hello Helga, To be honest, I am not as immersed in the world of Facebook as I am in Twitter. Consequently, I do not know the answer to your very excellent question. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim Cook Introduces a New Way to Receive Support for Your Apple Products Hi Mark. How are you? He only have it for Twiter? Does he also have it for Facebook users? I'm just wondering since I don't have a twiter account! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2016, at 6:16 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I am cross posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. Those of you who follow Tim Cook on Twitter, as I do, saw a tweet from him, earlier today, introducing, @AppleSupport. @AppleSupport is yet another way Apple customers can now receive support for all of their Apple products via Twitter. I am already following @AppleSupport and, for the time being, I have my settings such that I will be automatically notified of any tweets posted by @AppleSupport. You may wish to do the same. While on the subject of Twitter, those of you who, like me, want to see Twitter Moments be made VoiceOver accessible in the native iOS Twitter app, can send a message to @ support via your Twitter client or you may send an email, requesting the feature, to, supp...@twitter.com Finally, my personal Twitter handle/name is @Markmarcus. See you on Twitter. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send em
Good News About Downloading Music from Amazon to your Computer
Hello Everyone, This post is for anyone who, like me, prefers to purchase music via Amazon.com. A while back there was some chatter on this list about the accessibility of Amazon's music cloud storage system and finding the Amazon MP3 downloader app. The following is a notification I received stating that the MP3 downloader app has been discontinued for both Windows and Mac. As I have been using the Windows version of the MP3 downloder for over 7 years or so, I was not happy to learn of this change. However, I am delighted to inform you that the web interface, described in the following notification, works wonderfully with both Internet Explorer for Windows, via Jaws for Windows and Safari on the Mac, via VoiceOver. With VoiceOver, in Safari, I found it effortless to browse my Amazon Music Library, play and download songs, create playlists, etc. I have no idea if the Amazon Music app, described in the notification is VoiceOver accessible as I did not test it. However, for those of you running a virtual instance of Windows, I found the Amazon Music app, inaccessible via Jaws for Windows. Regardless of the accessibility of the dedicated app, the web interface is excellent and I will use it as my primary method when dealing with my Amazon Music Library. The text of the notification follows my signature line. Enjoy, Mark Important Information About Downloading Music from Amazon to your Computer Hello, We wanted to let you know that the process for downloading Amazon Music titles to your computer is changing. The Amazon MP3 Downloader is no longer available as of today. We're sorry for any inconvenience! As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely redesigned web browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download albums and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a file format that compresses content for quicker transfer. You can download music through your browser after completing a Digital Music Store purchase, from Your Orders (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library (https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary). Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click the "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the Amazon Music app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just download music files directly." For multiple songs and albums, your download starts automatically in a pop-up window, and is split into one or more .ZIP files. You can click the files in the download window once they're ready to save to your computer. If you've only selected one song, it downloads as an individual .MP3 file. To complete your download: 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open or save the file(s). 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you an option to open it. 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" folder. You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to the preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or "Music"). Tip: To add your downloaded music to iTunes, launch the iTunes app and select "Add File to Library" from the menu. Browse to the file or location where you saved your download, then select each track you want to add and confirm. To learn more about downloading music through your browser, go to: https://www.amazon.com/help/music/zipdownloads You can also use the Amazon Music app for PC and Mac to download music to your computer. With the Amazon Music app, you can play and download your music library, automatically export your downloaded music to iTunes or Windows Media Player, and more. For additional information, including installation instructions, go to: https://www.amazon.com/getamazonmusic We hope this information helps, and look forward to seeing you again soon! Sincerely, Customer Service Amazon.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: other mac accessibility mailing list?
Hello Everyone, I hope you are all doing well. First, let me mention that, as I hate to hijack a thread, I will post the following comments in a separate thread, as well as this one. Second, both Cara and I always appreciate any feedback on list policies as it is necessary to revisit such subjects from time-to-time. Third, I want you to know that, thanks to the elegance of the native Mac Mail application, I read virtually every post to this list so rest assured that your comments are being heard by the moderators and all of your suggestions will be considered. Fourth, at this time, the general list policy, implemented on Wednesday, September 16, 2015, in the thread entitled “MODERATOR NOTE: General List Discussion Policy Update”, a few weeks back, stands. That is to say, all non-beta Apple-related discussions are welcomed on this list. Fifth, I ask that this particular thread, discussing the scope of list discussions, be closed. I realize that, due to differences in time zones, personal schedules, etc, many list members will not see this post, requesting that this thread be closed, immediately. As a result, there will doubtless be a few more posts to this thread. That’s okay. Please do not take it upon yourselves to admonish those who may appear to be disregarding my request. Just trust that I am monitoring the threads and I will determine if someone is disregarding my request for thread closure. Sixth, in order to insure that this topic will not begin to threaten the fabric of the list’s integrity, those who continue to contribute to this thread will be placed on moderated status. Finally, please send any comments regarding this or any list policy to me, off-list, at: mk...@ucla.edu. Thank you all for being a part of this community. Sincerely, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: other mac accessibility mailing list? Deidre, are you on the premium subscription to this list or are you on the Freeside. All of us on the premium subscription get regular updates and flyers from the administers about these things. Sent from my IPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 10:40 AM, deedra waters wrote: > > i’m not going to debate staying current with you accept to say that i have > life on top of a mailing list with this kind of traffic you’re crazy but > seriously i wish there was a better way of relaying a message like that on a > ml with this much traffic. Maybe put something in the footer of the message > or get it to mail out a mail that doesn’t get cought by mailing programs so > they dont see the announcement and then have so much mail from said list that > they litterally dont notice the important things till they complain about > the huge spike in ios traffic or something similar. > > >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> Just recently, within the last few weeks, this question was answered by the >> moderator Mark Taylor. This list is now and pretty much always has been and >> "all things Apple" list. That includes the watch iOS operating system OS X >> etc. it makes a good deal of sense as the entire Apple line of products are >> all integrated and work seamlessly with each other. That is their intent, >> and so this list takes questions regarding all things Apple. There was a >> list devoted solely to the Mac OSx operating system, but that has gone the >> way of the dinosaur. That's what happens when you don't stay current. >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is the home >>> of the blind Mac user community, so that it has degenerated into a list >>> with so many topics regarding iOS is strange to me, especially since we >>> have moderators. The description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and >>> if both are allowed now the description should probably be changed. The >>> name is rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is >>> OK here. >>> >>> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is >>> Macvisionaries after all. >>> >>> Nicolai >>> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote: Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list has degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides mac support only. BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve deleted some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and s
MODERATOR NOTE and REQUEST: other mac accessibility mailing list?
Hello Everyone, I hope you are all doing well. First, let me mention that, as I hate to hijack a thread, I will post the following comments in a separate thread, as well as this one. Second, both Cara and I always appreciate any feedback on list policies as it is necessary to revisit such subjects from time-to-time. Third, I want you to know that, thanks to the elegance of the native Mac Mail application, I read virtually every post to this list so rest assured that your comments are being heard by the moderators and all of your suggestions will be considered. Fourth, at this time, the general list policy, implemented on Wednesday, September 16, 2015, in the thread entitled "MODERATOR NOTE: General List Discussion Policy Update", a few weeks back, stands. That is to say, all non-beta Apple-related discussions are welcomed on this list. Fifth, I ask that this particular thread, discussing the scope of list discussions, be closed. I realize that, due to differences in time zones, personal schedules, etc, many list members will not see this post, requesting that this thread be closed, immediately. As a result, there will doubtless be a few more posts to this thread. That's okay. Please do not take it upon yourselves to admonish those who may appear to be disregarding my request. Just trust that I am monitoring the threads and I will determine if someone is disregarding my request for thread closure. Sixth, in order to insure that this topic will not begin to threaten the fabric of the list's integrity, those who continue to contribute to this thread will be placed on moderated status. Finally, please send any comments regarding this or any list policy to me, off-list, at: mk...@ucla.edu. Thank you all for being a part of this community. Sincerely, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: other mac accessibility mailing list? Deidre, are you on the premium subscription to this list or are you on the Freeside. All of us on the premium subscription get regular updates and flyers from the administers about these things. Sent from my IPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 10:40 AM, deedra waters wrote: > > i'm not going to debate staying current with you accept to say that i have life on top of a mailing list with this kind of traffic you're crazy but seriously i wish there was a better way of relaying a message like that on a ml with this much traffic. Maybe put something in the footer of the message or get it to mail out a mail that doesn't get cought by mailing programs so they dont see the announcement and then have so much mail from said list that they litterally dont notice the important things till they complain about the huge spike in ios traffic or something similar. > > >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> Just recently, within the last few weeks, this question was answered by the moderator Mark Taylor. This list is now and pretty much always has been and "all things Apple" list. That includes the watch iOS operating system OS X etc. it makes a good deal of sense as the entire Apple line of products are all integrated and work seamlessly with each other. That is their intent, and so this list takes questions regarding all things Apple. There was a list devoted solely to the Mac OSx operating system, but that has gone the way of the dinosaur. That's what happens when you don't stay current. >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is the home of the blind Mac user community, so that it has degenerated into a list with so many topics regarding iOS is strange to me, especially since we have moderators. The description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and if both are allowed now the description should probably be changed. The name is rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is OK here. >>> >>> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is Macvisionaries after all. >>> >>> Nicolai >>> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote: Is there another ml that's more mac related? it seems this list has degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one that provides mac support only. BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I've deleted some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios related so if anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml for macs not ios. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to m
A Quick Tip for Low Vision Users of iTunes 12.3 or Later
Hello Everyone, I cannot remember if this subject has already been discussed, on list, but just in case it has not: Perhaps the following tip may benefit those using screen readers, also, but I discovered it because, as a screen magnifier user (in addition to my screen reader and my beloved Braille display) I really dislike the new Playlist view in iTunes 12.3 in which (1) the Playlist background color is based on the album artwork and (2) each listing of a title in a Playlist is preceded by the song's artwork in the left-most column. Also, in the default Playlist view, one cannot modify column headings, etc, as one could do in iTunes 11 and earlier. Please note that the following is written with screen magnifier users in mind, only. 1. To disable the custom color feature, from the Edit menu, select Preferences. Next, simply uncheck the "Use Custom Colors" checkbox. The actual checkbox has a slightly longer label but it will be clear when you see it. 2. In order to have your Playlists appear as they did in iTunes 11 and earlier (removing the artwork from the left-most column and enabling column browser customization: A. Select a Playlist in the left pane of iTunes. B. Near the upper-right corner of the display, just under the search box, you will see a drop-down list box which will most likely be set to Playlist. Simply change that to Songs. That's all there is to it. The Playlist will now appear as it did in iTunes 11 and earlier without any artwork. Be certain not to confuse the upper-right drop-down list box with the button labeled "Edit Playlist". One more thing, you will have to perform step 2 for each playlist. As far as I can tell, there is no way to change the default view for all the playlist to display only the songs, at once. The good news is that iTunes will remember the view for each Playlist. As I researched this, I discovered that there are a great number of sighted people who are very unhappy that Apple has made it more difficult to display merely the songs in a Playlist. They have been sending Apple a lot of negative feedback. I can only hope that Apple will listen. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Overdrive.
Hello Kawal, I am currently using the Over Drive app to read the Davincci Code in audio book format. The app is definitely VoiceOver accessible. However, it relies mostly on the explore-by-touch method as the swipe gesture yields little results in the app. Virtually every feature of the app is, however, VoiceOver accessible. Like me, several members of the V iPhone mailing list are very pleased with the functionality of the app. It does take some getting used to but, with a little practice and a lot of patience, audio books can be successfully downloaded and read comfortably with an excellent bookmarking feature and sleep timer available. The playback interface is absolutely outstanding. Finally, I suggest that you begin your exploration of OverDrive by first setting up a user account at http://overdrive.com Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:08 PM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Overdrive. Hello. Please could someone tell me if they are using Overdrive? I was going to use it on my I phone because of the RNIB Talking book service but when I downloaded the app, I found it virtually unusable. Just wondering then if anyone else is using it. I know when I tried the Mac Software, that was also not to my liking. Thanks. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
Hello Everyone, Well, it's that time of year, again. I hope you find the following information useful. Good Luck, Mark How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key. 1. Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store. When the download has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El Capitan.app'. 2. Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer. We're going to need to format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the payload for the installation of El Capitan. 3. Launch the Disk Utility application. 4. Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar. 5. Click the Partition tab. 6. Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). 7. Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup window then click the OK button. 8. Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm click the Partition button. 9. Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder. 10. Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just created in Step eight. Now, execute the following command in the Terminal window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key: sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app --nointeraction 11. Enter your Administrative account password. 12. After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El Capitan Installer key. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Awful Mail Bug in El Capitan
Hello Brian, I have not experienced this problem with any of my email accounts including Exchange, iCloud, gMail, Yahoo, etc. In fact, the El Capitan mail client is working better than ever, for me, better than it did in Yosemite. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 2:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Awful Mail Bug in El Capitan Is anyone else having this issue in mail in El Capitan? While going through this list and deleting messages, I am constantly getting error messages that mail cannot move messages to the trash. Strange why not and very annoying. Quitting mail causes me to get a ton of these messages and I had to force quit mail to end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Quick Question About Upgrading the Native Apple Note App
Hello Everyone, I am posting this question to both the Mac Visionaries and v iPhone mailing lists. While I have updated to El Capitan, I have not yet updated my primary iPhone to iOS 9.x. As a result, I have not yet upgraded the native Apple Notes app to the latest standard. This is because, I suspect that were I to upgrade my Notes account in either OS X El Capitan or on one of my iOS 9.x devices, my primary iOS device, running iOS 8.4.1 would no longer have access to the iCloud Notes account. Can anyone verify this? More simply put, does anyone who has upgraded their notes app in either iOS 9.0 or El Capitan, still has access to the iCloud Notes from an iOS device running 8.x? Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan
Hello Everyone, I cannot recall if this has been covered, on-list, but thought I would share two issues of some note, that occurred during my installation of El Capitan. 1. Upon successful download of El Capitan from the App Store, the installer did not automatically launch. This did not bother me as I always cancel the installer until I make a USB install key. 2. Rather than wiping my hard drive clean and installing El Capitan, fresh, which I intend to do in a couple of weeks, I elected to install the OS over the current install of Yosemite. Upon restarting, and after the setup assistant had launched, the install progress screen refused to disappear. I could enable/disable VoiceOver, I could use several of the VoiceOver commands but the installation progress window, containing the Apple logo and a completed progress bar remained. After about an hour of waiting, I powered down the computer and restarted. All has been well ever since. Just a quick note to say that I never experienced this behavior during the beta cycle. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan
Hello Craig, As a new Mac user, you should be extremely proud of yourself. It takes a lot of guts to install a new OS, especially after so short of a time at the helm. Just think about it, both you and I came up with the exact same solution and I've been doing this for over 7 years; I don't know if that says more about you or about me (big, big smile). My point is that, in my opinion, you did the correct thing in powering down the computer and rebooting. As for how the OS was successfully installed, suffice me to say that all of the proverbial heavy-lifting was already done by the time the setup assistant was launched. This is just a guess but I suspect that the problem for both of us was simply some kind of a video display glitch. Generally speaking, the setup assistant assesses what passwords and such need to be entered by the user before proceeding. However, all of the mission-crucial tasks have already been completed. After my reboot, I received a couple of password prompts that I would probably have received during the setup process, nothing more. Finally, as for the issues you are encountering, if you feel up to it, I would appreciate it if you would begin a new thread detailing them so we can all compare notes, as it were. Craig, well done on your installation and, if I have not expressed the sentiment earlier, welcome to the family. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan Mark, the installer progress bar lingered for me as well. I did the same thing as you did: turn off the machine and then turn it back on. I don't know know how El Capitan installed itself, but it did. This odd behavior is especially disturbing to me as a new Mac user of two months. I am wondering if some of the problems I am having with El Capitan are due to the way it was installed--a process I rather bumbled my way through. I'm not at all proud of my achievement and am now thinking of reverting back to Yosemite. Craig On Saturday, October 3, 2015, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I cannot recall if this has been covered, on-list, but thought I would share two issues of some note, that occurred during my installation of El Capitan. 1. Upon successful download of El Capitan from the App Store, the installer did not automatically launch. This did not bother me as I always cancel the installer until I make a USB install key. 2. Rather than wiping my hard drive clean and installing El Capitan, fresh, which I intend to do in a couple of weeks, I elected to install the OS over the current install of Yosemite. Upon restarting, and after the setup assistant had launched, the install progress screen refused to disappear. I could enable/disable VoiceOver, I could use several of the VoiceOver commands but the installation progress window, containing the Apple logo and a completed progress bar remained. After about an hour of waiting, I powered down the computer and restarted. All has been well ever since. Just a quick note to say that I never experienced this behavior during the beta cycle. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Major setbacks with El Capitan
Hello Christopher, Thank you so much for providing such a comprehensive description of your reasons for returning to Yosemite. I cannot speak as to the problems you're experiencing in iTunes but the mail app is my most valued application in all of OS X. I have not encountered any problems in the Mail application; however, I do not test or use it in the Classic view. Even during the beta cycle, my focus is primarily based on the default view, set to conversation without showing the related messages option) complete with the preview pane intact. Also, the only voices I use with VoiceOver are Alex and my beloved Samantha. I would be interested to learn of your experience should you decide to explore the default view layout in El Capitan Mail. As an F Y I, I decided to learn to use the default view in preparation for the day when Apple decides to discontinue the classic view option. Never forget that they summarily discontinued the beloved iTunes Sidebar. When it comes to Apple, the only constant is that things will change. Thank you again. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Major setbacks with El Capitan OK. Let me start by saying one positive thing. El Capitan looks like it has the potential to be a great OS. This being said, I'm at a position where even on my personal computers, not just on my work audio production machine, I have made the decision to go back to Yosemite, and not touch El Capitan with a 10 foot poll until some of these issues I'm having are worked out. Below are all the things so far I've observed. Again, realize that I am not complaining. Over time, I'm sure a lot of this will get fixed, but at least for the time being, this is ridiculous! Busy Busy Busy! This is the main bug which has caused me to say screw it! I'm going back. No matter what voice I use, be it Alex, any of the Nuance voices, Any of the Acapela TTS voices, whatever, practically every single app I have tried is almost constantly reporting busy busy busy. Finally when the app does! switch to ready status, it only stays there for a fraction of a second, then goes busy again. Can't Edit nor backspace text in Mail This one's really aggervating. When typing an e-mail message, be it a reply, a forward, or just totally from scratch, I can edit/backspace text up to a certain point which I've not totally benchmarked, but after a certain point, pressing the backspace key, or trying to move around and edit my message doesn't work. Apparently, it works, but Voiceover says absolutely nothing. When I try backspacing characters, Voiceover is totally silent. Message List Table in Mail is slightly Broken I should start this one by saying that I'm using the classic view of Mail. I'm not sure if that matters, but i somehow doubt it does. It used to be that I could vo+right arrow to the messages group and interact with it. Then, I could vo+right arrow to the message list table. Then, without interacting at all, I could simply down arrow through the list of messages. Not VO+Down arrow. I'm literally saying just down arrow. The advantage of doing it this way was that I wasn't interacting with the table, thereby making it where virtically, it would only read one column at a time. This way each row would read all columns at once. So right away, I knew who the message was from, the subject, etc. Now, if I try doing this, just by down arrowing when I reach the table, Voiceover says absolutely nothing. When I press return on a message, it's not throwing me to the content of the message. It's very inconsistent, so I can't really tell you where it lands, as it seems to be kind a scatterbrained. Once I do! however get on the area with the message content, regardless if I interact with the text field and use vo+up and down arrow to read, or if I don't interact at all, but just up and down arrow to read, Mail usually goes completely busy and by busy, I don't mean Voiceover saying busy. I mean it goes so busy to the point where literally nothing! speaks. Trying to command+tab out of the Mail app sometimes works, but usually Voiceover lags for a good 30 seconds to a full minute before catching up. When it does! catch back up I notice in the Mail app that I no longer have focus on the message content, as it's jumped to some other random place like the message headers, etc. Yes, to rimity these issues, I did try restarting Voiceover, and yes, I've also fully tried rebooting. ITunes 12.3, and ICloud Music Library I am subscribed both to Apple Music, as well as to ITunes Match. I have a CD which is *definitely!* not in the ITunes Store, nor in Apple Music. I know this as it's by a local artist, and she herself has told me directly that she's not on ITunes, nor has any inten
A Quick Tip for Those Using The Native El Capitan Mail Application, Getting VO to Announce The Total Number of Messages in a Particular Mailbox
Hello, You know, sometimes, it's helpful to return to the basics. As some of you may know, I use the native OS X El Capitan Mail application via Standard view, complete with the Preview pane being displayed. Since using El Capitan, I have since wanted to be able to have VoiceOver not only announce how many unread messages exist in a particular mailbox but to also announce the total number of messages in that mailbox. Simply put, using the key combo of VO+F2 causes this information to be announced. While I'm certain most on this list new the basic purpose of this command, apparently, I had forgotten it (smile). Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
Hello Dionipher, I do not understand your comment. What are you trying to accomplish? It sounds as though you have successfully created the bootable USB install key for El Capitan. Are you now attempting to perform a fresh install of El Capitan on your Mac or are you simply attempting to install El Capitan over your existing copy of Yosemite. Please be as specific as possible. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key the terminal is not working, maybe because the file name of my el capitan on my application is install os el capitan? > On 03 Oct 2015, at 7:18 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Well, it's that time of year, again. > > I hope you find the following information useful. > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key > > These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key. > > 1. > Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store. When the > download has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather > than actually going through the process of upgrading over the top of > your existing OS X installation. Make sure that the installer that > downloads the El Capitan file is located in the /Applications folder > under the name 'Install OS X El Capitan.app'. > > 2. > Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer. We're going to need > to format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can > accept the payload for the installation of El Capitan. > > 3. > Launch the Disk Utility application. > > 4. > Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar. > > 5. > Click the Partition tab. > > 6. > Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and > set the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). > > 7. > Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the > popup window then click the OK button. > > 8. > Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to > confirm click the Partition button. > > 9. > Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder. > > 10. > Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make > sure you do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the > one we just created in Step eight. Now, execute the following command > in the Terminal window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key: > > sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ > Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume > /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ > Capitan.app --nointeraction > > 11. > Enter your Administrative account password. > > 12. > After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for > OS X El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly > created El Capitan Installer key. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Using a "." period in the username of gmail
Hello Gary, I read your post, very carefully and, with all due respect, from Google's perspective, there is no problem to resolve. Simply put, a person can use any combination of letters, numbers, symbols, etc, so long as it is not used by someone else. Unless there is something I am not understanding, no one has hacked into your gMail account. The problem is that, somewhere along the way, someone inadvertently entered your email address into his account. Were I you, I would send your namesake a very nice email, explaining the problem. Unless he likes having someone else receive his emails, I'm certain he will have Sprint correct the error. Again, assuming I'm understanding your situation correctly, which is by no means certain, your problem is with Sprint, not Google. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:12 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Macvisionaries Subject: Using a "." period in the username of gmail Can anyone help? I need gmail support. I use a period between my first and last name of my gmail email account. I started receiving emails from Sprint for a new account that someone created using my email account. After calling Sprint, they said that there’s another user in a different state with the same gmail account name, except that they don’t use a period between his first and last name. My account is gary.robl...@gmail.com, and his is garyrobl...@gmail.com. Does anyone know how I can report this to Google gmail to get this resolved? I would like to email someone about it, but haven’t had success finding a support email link,yet. Thanks! Gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck
Hello Brian, I'm not Chris but, as I understand your dilemma, the problem is that you have not yet successfully booted into your USB drive. Normally, I recommend that a blind a low vision person, working alone, use the Startup disk option located in the System Preferences, to subsequently boot into the USB drive upon restart. However, it sounds as though you have already erased the internal drive so this is not an option. Here's how it works: You must successfully boot into your USB drive in order to enable VoiceOver via the key combo Command+F5. Do the following: While the Mac is powered off, hold down the Option key and keep it held down until you hear the startup chime; after which, you may release the Option key. At this point, you will see a list of all of your bootable devices, connected to the Mac. If, as you say, your internal drive has been erased and is therefore not bootable, it will not be listed. Understand that one cannot use VoiceOver in order to select the drive, using this method. You may use the arrow keys to highlight any of the items in the list but there is no VoiceOver feedback. Once you select the drive you want, press the Enter key. It may take as long as 5 minutes for the computer to boot into the USB key. Once it does, you can then enable VoiceOver via the key combo Command+F5. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris, Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only one thing I am tabbing to? When do I try and turn VO back on? Thanks, > On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the > boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM > Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck > > > Hey all, > > So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase the > El Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when I try > and boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything I have > read says you have to restart your computer and hold the option screen to get > to the screen with your bootable thumb drive on it. For some reason I am > thinking this screen might not work with VO as I waited over an hour and > could not get VO to turn on. Does anyone happen to know how to arrow without > VO running to get your bootable disc to launch? If not, is there anyway to > boot in to your drive using disk utility as I am back in disc utility but do > not see anywhere I can do this and selecting reinstall OS and hitting > continue just gives me a you are not connected to the internet error message. > Thanks for any help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck
Hello Brian, This is Mark. One can absolutely perform a clean install, without sighted assistance, provided that they use the Startup Disk option located in the System Preferences panel. The general order of things are as follows: 1. While your Mac is booted up to it's normal finder Desktop, insert a USB key containing the install of your preferred OS, into the Mac.. 2. >From the Apple menu, select System Preferences. 3. Select Startup Disk. 4. Now, select the USB key in which you want to boot when the computer restarts. 5. Restart the Mac and it will boot directly into the USB key. 6. Now, enable VoiceOver and you're good to go. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris then how do people say you can do this without sighted help? As I have read people have been doing clean installs via a bootable usb drive with VO. Thanks, > On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I cannot tell you if there is only one thing you're tabbing to, or how many > times to do so. That depends on how many startup disk volumes are configured > on your system. > > You do have the general idea correct though. > > As for when to turn on Voiceover, once the system boots, then turn it on. You > may have to try several times, but eventually, it should come up. > > I hope you're not running into the same nightmare I ran into. > > Finally, I wound up having to reformat and just install from scratch with a > bootable USB drive, and not run a disk backup image. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck > > > Chris, > > > Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while > holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only one thing > I am tabbing to? When do I try and turn VO back on? Thanks, >> On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >> >> Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the >> boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM >> Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase the >> El Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when I try >> and boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything I have >> read says you have to restart your computer and hold the option screen to >> get to the screen with your bootable thumb drive on it. For some reason I am >> thinking this screen might not work with VO as I waited over an hour and >> could not get VO to turn on. Does anyone happen to know how to arrow without >> VO running to get your bootable disc to launch? If not, is there anyway to >> boot in to your drive using disk utility as I am back in disc utility but do >> not see anywhere I can do this and selecting reinstall OS and hitting >> continue just gives me a you are not connected to the internet error >> message. Thanks for any help. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai
RE: Is there a command to move keyboard focus to the mouse?
Hello Donna, Use key combo VoiceOver-Key+Shift+F5 to move the keyboard focus to the mouse pointer. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Is there a command to move keyboard focus to the mouse? Hi all, Still working on my Exchange issue. Is there a way to force the keyboard focus to go to where the mouse is? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck
Hello Chris, The 5 minutes I was referring to reflects booting into an installer image on a standard USB 2.0 thumb drive. However, using a Thunderbolt drive, I can boot into a full version of El Capitan in less than 1 minute. Yes, I release the Option key, immediately (or almost immediately) following the chime. Keep in mind that I am using a new MacBook Pro with 16 gigs of ram and I can see when the Apple symbol appears which, again, is almost immediately.. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Wow Mark, you're lucky. I normally have to wait about 15 minutes minimum! before my USB drive boots. Or, are you talking about an installer volume, not a full fledged OS image. Also, have you really had success hitting the option key and releasing right after the chime? I'm not in the least bit doubting you. It's just that I've normally had to keep it held for about another 10 seconds after the chime finnished. That might be slightly overkill, but I know it didn't happen instantly if I released when the chime went away. Would like a little clarification on this, if you don't mind. Chris. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Hello Brian, I'm not Chris but, as I understand your dilemma, the problem is that you have not yet successfully booted into your USB drive. Normally, I recommend that a blind a low vision person, working alone, use the Startup disk option located in the System Preferences, to subsequently boot into the USB drive upon restart. However, it sounds as though you have already erased the internal drive so this is not an option. Here's how it works: You must successfully boot into your USB drive in order to enable VoiceOver via the key combo Command+F5. Do the following: While the Mac is powered off, hold down the Option key and keep it held down until you hear the startup chime; after which, you may release the Option key. At this point, you will see a list of all of your bootable devices, connected to the Mac. If, as you say, your internal drive has been erased and is therefore not bootable, it will not be listed. Understand that one cannot use VoiceOver in order to select the drive, using this method. You may use the arrow keys to highlight any of the items in the list but there is no VoiceOver feedback. Once you select the drive you want, press the Enter key. It may take as long as 5 minutes for the computer to boot into the USB key. Once it does, you can then enable VoiceOver via the key combo Command+F5. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris, Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only one thing I am tabbing to? When do I try and turn VO back on? Thanks, > On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the > boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM > Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck > > > Hey all, > > So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase > the El Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when > I try and boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything > I have read says you have to restart your computer and hold the option > screen to get to the screen with your bootable thumb drive on it. For some > reason I am thinking this screen might not work with VO as I waited over > an hour and could not get VO to turn on. Does anyone happen to know how to > arrow without VO running to get your bootable disc to launch? If not, is > there anyway to boot in to your drive using disk utility as I am back in > disc utility but do not see anywhere I can do this and selecting reinstall > OS and hitting continue just gives me a you are not connected to the > internet error message. Thanks for any help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop recei
A Question about Games for the Mac
Hello Everyone, Aside from chess, Does anyone know of any VoiceOver or self-voiceing board games such as monopoly? Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: disabling the voiceover caption window
Hello Michael, To hide the VoiceOver caption panel: 1. >From the VoiceOver Utility dialog box, select Visuals in the category table. 2. Select the VoiceOver Caption Panel tab. 3. Uncheck the Show Caption Panel checkbox. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: disabling the voiceover caption window Is it possible to disable or hide the voiceover caption window? If so, can someone provide me with directions on doing this? best. Michael Babcock Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner. @payown on periscope and twitter. http://yourownpay.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer
Hello Brian, I am so sorry that your experience has been this difficult. To be honest, I wanted to caution you about how to install Yosemite after having first upgraded to El Capitan. I did not, given that you were already on your proverbial way, as it were. I was hoping that all would be well but since it clearly is not, I will now post my recommendation. When I learned that you were attempting to roll back to Yosemite, I wanted to caution you that merely installing Yosemite, even after erasing your disk may not be completely successful. The only way, in my opinion, to get a truly clean install is to delete the entire partition of the internal drive before installing an OS. While I am not making any excuses for your experience, the truth of the matter is that your project is not as simple as it would appear. Therefore, you should not be too hard on yourself or on the operating system. Things work the way they work and it takes time to understand how it's all put together. The truth of the matter is that Apple provides the only OS, of which I am aware, in which we, blind and low vision, can be truly self supporting. That does not mean, however, that there is no learning curve. Having said all of this, were you to have asked before undertaking this project I would have recommended that you first learn how to use the Startup disk option located in the System Preferences area. Then I would have suggested that you explore the Disk Utilities application in order to familiarize yourself with its layout and how VoiceOver interacts with it. I would have advised you to attach a drive or two, to your Mac and practice formatting, partitioning and re-partitioning the practice drive. These skills are important, especially when dealing with a primary disk partition on an internal drive. Then, and only then, would I have recommended that you perform a complete fresh install after first having deleted the partition of the internal drive. As it stands, I hope you will not give up on this project as, like it or not, it is an excellent learning opportunity. In short, just try again. Keep trying until you get it right. When I was learning how to do these things, sometimes, I had to make the attempt as many as three times before I was successful. Each time through, however, I learned something new about both the OS and, more importantly, about myself. One more thing, just as a side note, what I and many others do is to install a program like Super Duper in order to clone the internal drive to an external one, before upgrading to a new OS. Then, should we decide to rollback, as it were, we only need to copy the cloned copy from the external drive back to the internal one. The cloned drive is also bootable. Hang in there and know that we're all here, ready to assist. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer So much for a clean install fixing things. My computer is now utterly useless as VO will read for a few seconds then stop for 3 to 5 minutes then read for a few seconds and stop again making the computer a giant freaking paperweight. The funniest thing about all this is I am supposed to be at an expo tomorrow talking up Apple to blind people, well F that. I could never recommend Apple to someone after this experience.Not sure how having nothing on the computer could cause so many issues but I would have taken the crappy Crapitan to this as Crapitan was useable in places just not safari, this is now a pile of junk. Will call Apple accessibility what a joke not sure how I have been the lucky one to have the worlds worst experience doing a clean install. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer
Hello Devin, I cannot speak to the Alex problem you are having as a great many things depend upon the model of the computer you have, the amount of RAM, etc. However, what is extremely important to know is that you cannot (or rather should not) attempt to delete a drive on which you are currently booted. In order to partition the internal drive, you must first be booted onto an external one. Think of it like this, you cannot safely raise a house while standing in it's living room. In order to raise a house, you must do so from the outside, right? Therefore, in Brian's situation, he needs to boot to the install key, then launch it's disk utility and proceed from there. As for you, if you do not have an install key, you will have to boot to an external drive, then proceed from that position. Of course, you could create an install key, if you so choose. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer Okay, I have a question then. I might try doing a clean install, maybe that'll fix the Alex choppiness issue I've been having for years, although it may just be a 4gig ram thing. So do I just go to the repair partition, where it is possible to reformat and all that, and simply delete the main part of the disk where all the files and documents and all are, and just reinstall the system with that? Or is it more complex than that? I forgot how I used to reinstall the system before, but not even that helped the Alex issue. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2015, at 1:42 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > I am so sorry that your experience has been this difficult. > > To be honest, I wanted to caution you about how to install Yosemite after > having first upgraded to El Capitan. I did not, given that you were already > on your proverbial way, as it were. I was hoping that all would be well but > since it clearly is not, I will now post my recommendation. > > When I learned that you were attempting to roll back to Yosemite, I wanted to > caution you that merely installing Yosemite, even after erasing your disk may > not be completely successful. > > The only way, in my opinion, to get a truly clean install is to delete the > entire partition of the internal drive before installing an OS. > > While I am not making any excuses for your experience, the truth of the > matter is that your project is not as simple as it would appear. Therefore, > you should not be too hard on yourself or on the operating system. > > Things work the way they work and it takes time to understand how it's all > put together. The truth of the matter is that Apple provides the only OS, of > which I am aware, in which we, blind and low vision, can be truly self > supporting. That does not mean, however, that there is no learning curve. > > Having said all of this, were you to have asked before undertaking this > project I would have recommended that you first learn how to use the Startup > disk option located in the System Preferences area. Then I would have > suggested that you explore the Disk Utilities application in order to > familiarize yourself with its layout and how VoiceOver interacts with it. I > would have advised you to attach a drive or two, to your Mac and practice > formatting, partitioning and re-partitioning the practice drive. These > skills are important, especially when dealing with a primary disk partition > on an internal drive. > > Then, and only then, would I have recommended that you perform a complete > fresh install after first having deleted the partition of the internal drive. > > As it stands, I hope you will not give up on this project as, like it or not, > it is an excellent learning opportunity. > > In short, just try again. Keep trying until you get it right. > > When I was learning how to do these things, sometimes, I had to make the > attempt as many as three times before I was successful. Each time through, > however, I learned something new about both the OS and, more importantly, > about myself. > > One more thing, just as a side note, what I and many others do is to install > a program like Super Duper in order to clone the internal drive to an > external one, before upgrading to a new OS. Then, should we decide to > rollback, as it were, we only need to copy the cloned copy from the external > drive back to the internal one. The cloned drive is also bootable. > > Hang in there and know that we're all here, ready to assist. > > Mark > > -Original Mes
Moderator Note
Hello Everyone,, Thank you all for your efforts in keeping the list conversations both courteous and on-point. As I have suspended the policy of placing all new members on moderated status and as I have recently approved many new people to the list, I just wanted to remind everyone to please refrain from posting one line replies, on-list. Also, please do not engage in personal conversations, on-list. Keep up the good work, everyone, and stay well. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story
I completely agree with you Scott, Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned. I would argue that Mail is as good as it has ever been. I have said it before and I'll say it again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could conceivably manage so many email messages so effortlessly. Like you, Soctt, I do not use the classic view. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has seemed to indicate. Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail issues but I don’t use the classic view. Either way, mail is functioning nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Craig Werner wrote: > > Hello, everyone. > > As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a > little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan. I do > this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading with > one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary > from more experienced users. > > As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, Windows, > and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers. In July, I > bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, which I > upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September. I love reading documentation, > so I threw myself happily into reading lots of VoiceOver and OS X > resources, including Tim Sniffen's and Janet Ingber's books, AppleVis > posts, and various podcasts, supplemented by generous chunks of David > Pogue's _Yosemite: the Missing Manual_. The learning curve was steep, > but I almost enjoyed my first few weeks. Troubled by some bugs, > notably in Mac Mail, I wondered if I should upgrade to El Capitan. > Years and years of caution prompted my inner voice to urge me to stay > put and be patient as I learned; but one day in October, I took the > plunge. Buoyed by my success at upgrading, I started to play with El > Capitan only to discover within a few minutes that not only were the > Mail bugs still present but also Safari often displayed a "busy" > status at times when performing the same operations in Yosemite > produced happier results. > > I decided to return to Yosemite 10.10.5, so, urged on by an Apple > Accessibility rep who told me I could downgrade without a bootable > drive, I decided to use Internet Recovery to restore the OS that came > with the machine. Something went wrong during the attempt to > downgrade, and the Mac refused to acknowledge my router. A couple of > earnest attempts by Apple Accessibility personnel to help the machine > recover failed, and I decided to take the computer into the nearby > Apple Store for a clean install. The bottom line is that the machine > has been restored to its Day One state, so to speak, and I am quite > content to wallow in Yosemite for the time being. > > My point is simple: if you're new to this game, consider carefully > whether the advantages you may gain when trying to upgrade are worth > the risk. Better to learn carefully what you don't know now than to > add more layers which you may not have bargained for. > > Some of you might be wondering why you have bothered to read something > so self-evident. All I can say is temptation doesn't always yield > beneficial results. At the risk of stating the obvious, I have stated > the obvious. > > Craig > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://g
Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far
Hello Everyone, Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. 1. However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom VoiceOver bug still persist. However, on a positive note, at least, enabling VoiceOver, after zooming in on an image, no longer cancels the zoom. Baby steps, eh? (smile). 2. I am surprised at how much I miss having the time announced when waking the phone. 3. Perhaps it's just me but I swear the quality of Samantha has been greatly degraded in this version. I just don't understand why, with every major release since iOS 6.x, the quality of Samantha has been steadily declining. Of course, this is just my opinion. What I do find interesting is that Samantha's pronunciation of words that were absolutely correct in iOS 8, has been changed and are now incorrect in iOS 9.1. In iOS 8.x, I found the high quality version of the Samantha voice somewhat pleasant, in iOS 9.x, I find it unsettling, to say the least. I cannot imagine having the current Samantha voice reading long stretches of texts, whereas in the previous iOS, this would not have even been at issue. Is Apple trying to force everyone to Alex? (Yes, a conspiracy theory). (Smile). 4. Also, the SMS Reply To dictation feedback problem is very, very annoying. For those who disagree, let me say that I respect your opinion. Also, the feedback is not much of a problem if one dictates using either a Bluetooth or wired headset. I suppose it is not much of an issue if one only dictates 1 or 2 words. However, if one attempts to dictate a full sentence, then the feedback becomes problematic as a kind of feedback loop ensues causing a great deal of random text to be inserted as Siri, hearing VoiceOver, begins to dictate to itself. 5. I know this comes up every time a new OS is released but it seems to me as though my battery drains faster since updating from 8.x to 9.1. I just turned off a lot of items that were active in the background app refresh area so I'll see how it goes. However, I can tell you that I updated a total of three 6 plus phones, yesterday, two from iOS 9.0.2. Now, even though both of those two phones that were already running 9.x, were plugged into an outlet at the time of the update, via OTA, both had less charge after updating than they did, before the update began. I've never seen such a thing before. 6. As always, I have sent my findings to Apple. 7. Finally, and I want to be clear on this: Updating the OS OTA (over-the-air) is in no way the same as installing it from iTunes via a USB cable. For whatever reason, there does seem to be a pattern of more problems when going from iOS 8.x to 9.x via OTA. What is the difference between the OTA method and the iTunes method? In short, updating OTA does not rewrite the file allocation table and file structures, just for starters. When you update via iTunes, it is as if you are doing a fresh install as all of the file tables and data clusters are actually rewritten to the disk.. Want proof of this? No problem, here's how to verify the difference. When you use the OTA method, you will notice that any custom keyboard shortcuts you may have added remain, after the update. However, when you update via iTunes, you will discover that only default keyboard shortcuts exist, meaning you will have to rewrite your custom keyboard shortcuts. I wish I could lay claim to having learned about the difference between the two methods, independently but I was told of the difference by a senior Apple iOS design engineer. I'll be honest, I have not used the iTunes method since the OTA option became available but now that I have had several of my recent syncing problems resolved after having used the iTunes method, I'll probably use it from now on, when possible. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story
I have long since suspected that Apple will, eventually, discontinue the classic view in Mail. This is just my opinion, of course. The funny thing is, whenever I see non-voiceOver users, including those in the Apple store, using Mac Mail, they are not using the classic view. I realize that the number of people I interact with is less than miniscule but it is an indication of something, I dare say. The truth is, again in my opinion, when used correctly, the standard view is unbeatable. Again, just my opinion. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:40 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it, but the only way of avoiding the horrible, terrible slowdowns in Mail presently seems to be not to use that view. Deliberate sabotage so Apple can obsolete that view and further solidify the iOSification of the Mac? :) Must try MailMate again soon, to see where we stand with that. I’d sure love an alternative to Mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.
Hello, I, too, am experiencing this problem. The thing is, I don't see how to set a new default speech rate. If such a mechanism exists, then we'd be in business. Was it possible to set a new speech rate previously? Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S. It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a major bug. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > > Guys, we have a problem. > > I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a > document. The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning, however > the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or > something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't funny! Put your Iphone to > about 10% speaking rate... there you pretty much have it. > > How in the world do I adjust this? > > Chris. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Calibrating The iPhone Battery
Hello Scott, I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our conversation. Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone battery. I will do exactly as you suggest. I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo. One question: When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the battery drain all the way down until the phone will no longer power on? Past all of the warnings? Thank you again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far Mark, I think I can help you on the battery front. I'm running the 6S+ with 9.1, a 6 with 9.1 and several iPads with 9.1. When you first start out with a device the battery circuits need a bit of celebration. It's not like the old days where a battery was just a battery. There's complex little circuits embedded in the batteries that actually control their discharge and manage their operation. These need to calibrate and this is also why you should calibrate your phone once per month or so. Charge and fully discharge the phone a few times and you should see far better battery life. Also, once you install the OS and the phone restarts, reboot it one time further. Use the holding of the home and power buttons to accomplish this. A restart after the phone initially boots has also helped me clear many a drain issue. Once your new installs stabilize I think you'll find that your battery life has improved. Let me know if this helps at all. Thanks Scott > On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. > > For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. > > 1. > However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple > engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom > VoiceOver bug still persist. However, on a positive note, at least, > enabling VoiceOver, after zooming in on an image, no longer cancels the zoom. Baby steps, eh? > (smile). > > 2. > I am surprised at how much I miss having the time announced when > waking the phone. > > 3. > Perhaps it's just me but I swear the quality of Samantha has been > greatly degraded in this version. I just don't understand why, with > every major release since iOS 6.x, the quality of Samantha has been steadily declining. > Of course, this is just my opinion. What I do find interesting is > that Samantha's pronunciation of words that were absolutely correct in > iOS 8, has been changed and are now incorrect in iOS 9.1. > > In iOS 8.x, I found the high quality version of the Samantha voice > somewhat pleasant, in iOS 9.x, I find it unsettling, to say the least. > I cannot imagine having the current Samantha voice reading long > stretches of texts, whereas in the previous iOS, this would not have > even been at issue. Is Apple trying to force everyone to Alex? (Yes, a conspiracy theory). > (Smile). > > 4. > Also, the SMS Reply To dictation feedback problem is very, very annoying. > > For those who disagree, let me say that I respect your opinion. Also, > the feedback is not much of a problem if one dictates using either a > Bluetooth or wired headset. I suppose it is not much of an issue if > one only dictates > 1 or 2 words. However, if one attempts to dictate a full sentence, > then the feedback becomes problematic as a kind of feedback loop > ensues causing a great deal of random text to be inserted as Siri, > hearing VoiceOver, begins to dictate to itself. > > 5. > I know this comes up every time a new OS is released but it seems to > me as though my battery drains faster since updating from 8.x to 9.1. > I just turned off a lot of items that were active in the background > app refresh area so I'll see how it goes. However, I can tell you > that I updated a total of three 6 plus phones, yesterday, two from iOS > 9.0.2. Now, even though both of those two phones that were already > running 9.x, were plugged into an outlet at the time of the update, > via OTA, both had less charge after updating than they did, before the > update began. I've never seen such a thing before. > > 6. > As always, I have sent my findings to Apple. > > 7. > Finally, and I want to be clear on this: Updating the OS OTA > (over-the-air) is in no way the same as installing it from iTunes via > a USB cable. For whatever reason, there does seem to be a pattern of &
RE: What's the word with the update for El Capitan and VO
Hello Chris, I occasionally use the Zoom tool in OS X. It's very nice and works very well. I've considered purchasing ZoomText for the Mac but, as yet, see no need to do so as the native Zoom tool meets all of my needs. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's the word with the update for El Capitan and VO You mention about them having other accessibility things than just Voiceover to deal with. I’m curious if anyone on this list happens to therefore use Zoom either on OSX, or on I O S. If so, I don’t have quite enough sight to use it on either, but I’m wondering in general how well it works, and how stable it is in El Capitan? Which oh, my! I just noticed something. In the latest version that just came out, 10.11.1, Alex finally says Capitan correctly. Not really a major thing to be excited about, but still, it is one thing fixed. That’s awesome! Chris. > On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > I agree, Mary, hence why they have their own team of accessibility engineers, > that *have* to work on 4 different operating systems, and work on not just > Voiceover. It makes me sick how many people think VoiceOver is the only > accessibility feature Apple has to work on at all times, so they expect > features to be 100% bug free upon release. Apple will get to the issues when > they get to them, so people just need to be patient, or report them every so > often to get them bumped up in the priority list, or don’t let the door hit > ya where the good lord split ya. > >> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> I'm not sure what you meant by higher ups. But I wouldn't expect the top >> management at a company like Apple to have much of a clue about details >> regarding accessibility. The real issue is quality control and whether or >> not the people implementing excess ability have a clue. If Tim Cook doesn't >> really understand all that much about how voiceover or assistive touch >> works, that really is good. He doesn't need to know that kind of thing. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the heads up will be staying put on Yosemite for good now. >>> Captain and my experience was just awful real big step backwards as far as >>> accessibility. And I am not surprised as I met with someone from Apple >>> yesterday and was stunned to hear that none of the higher ups have a real >>> understanding of accessibility and with the lack of stability in Capitan >>> and VO I am not surprised. On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: My opinion is that unless you have a specific reason to move to El Capitan, staying put will give you the better experience. At this stage I’d say the El Capitan experience is merely tolerable, but not great. Responsiveness is a definite plus, and I have come to endure iBooks for sheer lack of choice and find that I’m glad not to have to remove it every time I update. But other than that, it’s a bit meh, really. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisiona
MODERATOR NOTE: Do not Post Sale Offers to the List Without Permission
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RE: Moving the mouse pointer to click on different places.
Hello, To perform a standard mouse-click with VoiceOver enabled, use key-combo Shift+VO-Key+Space-Bar. I suggest that you first press both the Shift and VO-key, then tap the space bar to perform the mouse click. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Singing Sparrow Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Moving the mouse pointer to click on different places. I am using an ap that i need to move the mouse pointer to click on some options i need to change doing the standard control option space is not working how can i accomplish this task? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: still no new message sound in Mail
Hello Katie, I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as the Messages app? Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly. Please do the following: Note, the following steps assume that you are using only the computer's internal speakers for sound output. 1. With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System Preferences. 2. Select Sounds. A dialogue box will open containing three Tabs labeled Sound Effects, Output, and Input. 3. On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects through" option is set to Internal speakers. 4. On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to internal speakers. 5. Close the dialogue box. Now, open the mail application and see what happens. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: still no new message sound in Mail Hi, everyone. I just updated to OS 10.11.1 today. I’m still not getting any new message sound when I receive something in Mail. I thought Apple was going to fix this. I decided for now to just get alerts for mail in notification center so I'll know when I get new email for now. Has anyone else had this problem after they updated? I hope the next update Apple releases has that mail sound fixed. Katie -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
Hello, Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my unlimited data plan. For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others, in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink), cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan. A little paranoia on my part? You bet!! All replies welcomed. Thank you, Mark PS Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Is Anyone Using Twitter Moments in the Native Twitter App?
Hello Everyone, Is Anyone Using Twitter Moments in the Native Twitter App? If so, how did you enable the feature and how do you use it? I see an option for Moments in the settings area of the app but can find no evidence of it as a Tab or anything from within the app. The Moments page, list only Tweets about the feature, it is not the actual service, itself. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
Hello Scott, Thank you. I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge. I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before recharging. Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 100% full power. Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power outlet at the time of the hard reset? Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. Then wait an additional hour or so after this point and charge it fully with a complete cycle. Let me know if that’s more clear. > On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Scott, > > I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our conversation. > > Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone battery. > > I will do exactly as you suggest. > > I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via > simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the > device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo. > > One question: > > When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the > battery drain all the way down until the phone will no longer power > on? Past all of the warnings? > > Thank you again, > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far > > Mark, I think I can help you on the battery front. > > I'm running the 6S+ with 9.1, a 6 with 9.1 and several iPads with 9.1. > When you first start out with a device the battery circuits need a bit > of celebration. It's not like the old days where a battery was just a > battery. > There's complex little circuits embedded in the batteries that > actually control their discharge and manage their operation. These > need to calibrate and this is also why you should calibrate your phone once > per month or so. > Charge and fully discharge the phone a few times and you should see > far better battery life. Also, once you install the OS and the phone > restarts, reboot it one time further. Use the holding of the home and > power buttons to accomplish this. A restart after the phone initially > boots has also helped me clear many a drain issue. Once your new > installs stabilize I think you'll find that your battery life has > improved. Let me know if this helps at all. > > Thanks > Scott > > >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. >> >> For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. >> >> 1. >> However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple >> engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom >> VoiceOver bug still persist. However, on a positive note, at least, >> enabling VoiceOver, after zooming in on an image, no longer cancels >> the > zoom. Baby steps, eh? >> (smile). >> >> 2. >> I am surprised at how much I miss having the time announced when >> waking the phone. >> >> 3. >> Perhaps it's just me but I swear the quality of Samantha has been >> greatly degraded in this version. I just don't understand why, with >> every major release since iOS 6.x, the quality of Samantha has been > steadily declining. >> Of course, this is just my opinion. What I do find interesting is >> that Samantha's pronunciation of words that were absolutely correct >> in iOS 8, has been changed and are now incorrect in iOS 9.1. >> >> In iOS 8.x, I found the high quality version of the Samantha voice >> somewhat pleasant, in iOS 9.x, I find it unsettling, to say the least. >> I cannot imagine having the current Samantha voice reading long >> stretches of texts, whereas in the previous iOS, this would not have >> even been at issue. Is Apple trying to force everyone to Alex? >> (Yes, a > conspiracy theory). >> (Smile). >> >> 4. >> Also, the SMS Reply To dictation feedback problem is very, very annoying. > >> >> For those who disagree, let me say that I respect your opinion. >> Also, the feedback is not much of a prob
RE: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
Hello Joseph, Thank you for your post. Just curious, how much do you pay for the 10GB per month? Many of the A T & T Wireless grandfathered unlimited data plan holders I know pay $30 per month. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling Mark, I don't know how many line you have on your plan not that it's any of my business, but I'm sitting here with Tim Gates right now and I was just recently town. And I will tell you from the time to meet my brother have been sharing this 10 gigs the most we've ever used is a gig in a half just doing all that since he's stopped traveling. Now mind you, whenever he was on the road, constantly streaming, and not using hotel Wi-Fi or anything of that nature. We would get down to five gigs, and I'll get a warning. So it all depends on how much data you're using. Firme from switching from sprint unlimited data to 10 gigs, hasn't bothered me one bit. Oh and can I say this, it's faster than name as well. > On Oct 26, 2015, at 1:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello, > > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my > unlimited data plan. For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others, > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink), > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan. > > A little paranoia on my part? You bet!! > > All replies welcomed. > > Thank you, > > Mark > PS > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group a
RE: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
Hello Tyler, I have long since been aware that we A T & T Wireless unlimited data plan holders cannot use the hotspot service but how, may I ask, did you determine that we cannot enable WiFi calling? I believe you but just am curious. It does seem strange that we should be prohibited from using a service that does not, on the surface, appear to cost A T & T Wireless any money. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Thompson Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:53 PM To: Mac Group Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling Hey Mark, I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi calling or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think you’re sort of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up the deal. They may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the day it’s really nice not having to worry about data usage. > On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello, > > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my > unlimited data plan. For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others, > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink), > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan. > > A little paranoia on my part? You bet!! > > All replies welcomed. > > Thank you, > > Mark > PS > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
Chris, You are not missing anything. Sometimes, it's just the price of capitalism; that's putting it nicely. The truth is, they really want to do away with unlimited data plans and but for the FCC, they would have forced us out of them a long time ago. I think the idea of being forced out of a plan that would not be impacted by enabling a new feature is ludicrous but, logic has no place where greed and power are concerned. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling Why though would that effect data? I thought wifi calling used a wifi connection you're connected to locally? Wifi calling doesn't eat up any of your cellular data. At least, it better not, as I was told it doesn't, so why would they take away your data plan, just to give you something that doesn't use internet data to start with? That doesn't make any sense, unless I'm missing something here. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Tyler Thompson" To: "Mac Group" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:52 PM Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling Hey Mark, I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi calling or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think you’re sort of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up the deal. They may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the day it’s really nice not having to worry about data usage. > On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello, > > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my > unlimited data plan. For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others, > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink), > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan. > > A little paranoia on my part? You bet!! > > All replies welcomed. > > Thank you, > > Mark > PS > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if yo
An Update for A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
Hello My Fellow A T & T Wireless Unlimited Data Plan Subscribers, I am delighted to report that, after paying a visit to my local A T & T Wireless corporate store and after having concluded a 20 minute phone call with A T & T Wireless technical billing support, I am comfortable stating that there is absolutely no risk of voiding the unlimited data plan by enabling WiFi calling. When it's all said and done, the senior tech explained that, unlike the hotspot service, WiFi calling does not require any line/account provisioning, whatsoever. In fact, after having spoken to the people at A T & T, I now realize that WiFi calling has absolutely nothing to do with the transmission of data. Wifi calling only refers to voice calls and SMS messages. Be that as it may, and I was clear to state this to all of those with whom I spoke, albeit graciously, that I don't trust A T & T Wireless or any big company that continues to be fined by the FCC for unfair practices designed to limit the company's commitment to its customers who purchased service in good faith. By the way, I learned that A T & T only throttles data to its unlimited data plan customers when they reach 23GB in a billing cycle and then only at peak/congested times of the day, on a per cell tower basis. That is to say, that if a customer has reached the 23GB threshold and is having his/her data throttled on cell tower A, because of high traffic congestion, if the customer happens to move to cell tower B, and B is not congested, data wil not be throttled. The following is the text of an email I had A T & T Wireless email to me, regarding WiFi calling: Do charges apply for Wi-Fi Calling? If you use Wi-Fi Calling to make or receive domestic calls from the U.S., Puerto Rico, or U.S. Virgin Islands, there are no extra charges. Also, these calls don't count against your voice plan usage limits. For international long distance calls, international rates from your current rate plan or international package apply. If you use Wi-Fi Calling to send or receive domestic or international messages, you'll be charged based on your current rate plan or international package. These messages will also count against any usage limits. Happy WiFi Calling To Us All, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
Thank you Scott, You made perfect sense. I completely understand. I'm amazed at how difficult it is to drain the battery. Even when I turn the screen brightness up to 100%, set The auto-lock to 5 minutes, etc, it just won't drain. I supposed it's like they say, a watched pot never boils (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery Mark, the reset is a separate issue. You may reboot the phone any time you feel you have an issue that rebooting would solve. You will want to wait an hour or more, more is not harmful after discharging to charge again. These are separate and not related tasks. Does that make more sense? Let me know if I’ve thoroughly confused you we can always set up a call if I’ve been unclear. Take care and good luck > On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:44 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Scott, > > Thank you. > > I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your recommended 1 > hour before beginning the recharge. > > I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before recharging. > > Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 100% > full power. Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power outlet at > the time of the hard reset? > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery > > Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. Then wait > an additional hour or so after this point and charge it fully with a complete > cycle. > > Let me know if that’s more clear. > >> On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Scott, >> >> I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our conversation. >> >> Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone battery. >> >> I will do exactly as you suggest. >> >> I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via >> simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the >> device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo. >> >> One question: >> >> When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the >> battery drain all the way down until the phone will no longer power >> on? Past all of the warnings? >> >> Thank you again, >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:27 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far >> >> Mark, I think I can help you on the battery front. >> >> I'm running the 6S+ with 9.1, a 6 with 9.1 and several iPads with 9.1. >> When you first start out with a device the battery circuits need a >> bit of celebration. It's not like the old days where a battery was just a >> battery. >> There's complex little circuits embedded in the batteries that >> actually control their discharge and manage their operation. These >> need to calibrate and this is also why you should calibrate your phone once >> per month or so. >> Charge and fully discharge the phone a few times and you should see >> far better battery life. Also, once you install the OS and the phone >> restarts, reboot it one time further. Use the holding of the home >> and power buttons to accomplish this. A restart after the phone >> initially boots has also helped me clear many a drain issue. Once >> your new installs stabilize I think you'll find that your battery >> life has improved. Let me know if this helps at all. >> >> Thanks >> Scott >> >> >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. >>> >>> For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. >>> >>> 1. >>> However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple >>> engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom >>> VoiceOver bug still persist. However, on a positive note, at least, >>> enabling Voi
RE: ios 9 notification
Hello Jean, I cannot reproduce your problem. Missed notifications on my iOS 9.1 lock screen appear as they always have. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: ios 9 notification Hello All: In previous versions of ios, one could tap the home screen icons for phone or messages and other communications apps and voiceover would announce if there were missed messages, calls etc. With ios9 that is not working. This is a major inconvenience. Is there a way to correct this? I sure hope so. Thanks for any suggestions, Jean -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone
Hello Everyone, While I do have keychain access enabled on my Macs, I seem to recall reading, online, a couple of years ago, that enabling keychain access on iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial, side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or something. I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS. Question, Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences? Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Some Information for A T & T Wireless Customers Who Recently Enabled WiFi Calling or Who Were Recently Switched to HD Voicemail
Hello Everyone, As the following is extremely important to my enjoyment of iPhone and in so much as I think it an important tool for many of us, I am going to post this to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing lists. Please note that I can only verify the following on the A T & T Wireless network. Generally speaking, the default time it takes for an incoming call to be sent to voicemail is approximately 20 seconds or, from the caller's point of view, 4 rings. For many years, it has been possible to increase the time it takes an incoming call to be sent to voicemail to as much as 30 seconds. You might not think 10 seconds would make that much of a difference but, believe me, it does. Needless to say, I had my settings set to 30 seconds. Although A T & T Wireless customer service representatives would change this account setting, upon request, it was actually possible, through a series of service dial commands, to adjust the setting directly from iPhone. Those of you who, like me, were using the increased value setting, noticed that upon having your account provisioned for HD voicemail, a requirement in order to take advantage of WiFi calling, lost the benefit of the increased value. That is to say, incoming calls, once again, were going to voicemail after 20 seconds, instead of 30. You may have also noticed that the service dial commands, once used to manually adjust this setting, is no longer valid. Well, as it turns out, the delay value previously set, only applies to the legacy voicemail system and not to the new HD voicemail system. The good news is that you can call A T & T Wireless, 800-331-0500, and have the customer service representatives adjust the incoming call setting but you must be certain to tell the rep, as many of them are not yet aware, to make the adjustment to the HD voicemail system and not the legacy system, the system that first appears when an account is displayed. Even better, the new system allows for even longer delay times than did the legacy system. I currently have my delay time set to 40 seconds. It is absolutely marvelous. Some of you may be wondering why one would want to have such a high delay time. The answer is that it gives one, more time to reach the phone, should she/he be in a different room than the phone or time to dry his/her hands before touching the phone, etc. One final thing, many representatives may not know that the new system delay time can be adjusted; so if they do not know how to adjust the time, graciously insist that it can be done and request that your call be escalated to the next level of technical support. I am happy to say that a couple of acquaintances, with whom I first shared this information, have, like me, taken advantage of this new feature set and, also like me, are happier than clams in clam sauce (smile). Good Luck and Enjoy, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple TV (2015) cNet Review
Hello Everyone, Here is the text of the cNet review of the new Apple TV. The link to the original article is located at the end of the text. Enjoy, Mark Apple TV (2015) cNet Review The smoothest streaming TV today, powerful potential tomorrow The Good The new Apple TV delivers the most polished video experience today, with speedy reactions and a familiar yet attractive interface. It has the best remote on the market. Siri's voice search makes finding stuff to watch even easier, with search results pulled from numerous services beyond iTunes. The selection of TV-based apps is very good, and AirPlay can be used for unsupported apps. The Bad Apple TV costs more than similar devices like the Roku, Amazon Fire TV and Chromecast for basically the same core functions. There's no dedicated app for Amazon or any other a la carte video service beyond iTunes. Non-entertainment apps aren't very compelling yet. The Bottom Line The new Apple TV's awesome remote and voice control make it one of the best entertainment devices, especially for anyone who already owns plenty of Apple gadgets. Visit manufacturer site for details. 8.4 Overall Value 7.0 Design 10.0 Ecosystem 9.0 Features 9.0 Performance 10.0 Editors' note: This review refers to the US version. Some details, in particular available video-streaming apps, will vary in different territories. I have a confession to make. I'm an Android guy. I've always owned Samsung phones and Windows computers, and tell family members to get Amazon Fire tablets. I bought a Mac in college but ended up paying a fortune for it as part of a student loan program and never bought one again. While my work laptop is a MacBook (a recent switch), the only Apple product I've spent my own money on in the last 15 years is an iPad for my wife, and now it gets used mostly to entertain the kids during car rides. But some of the smartest people I know swear by Apple products, and after playing with the new Apple TV for the last few days, I can see why. I've tested just about every other box and stick from Roku, Amazon and Google over the years, not to mention countless Smart TV systems and plenty of game consoles. All of them can stream videos from services like Netflix, Hulu and YouTube to your television, but none feels as nice as the new Apple TV. The remote is simply the best I've ever used. Equipped with a responsive, thumb-sized touchpad it flies through menus, lists of TV show thumbnails and videos themselves, putting conventional cursor-based controls to shame. And voice search -- I guess you Apple people call it "Siri" for some reason -- works very well, and can do a lot more than just find stuff to watch. The new Apple TV is not perfect. It costs more than comparable devices -- always my main gripe about Apple products. It lets you play plenty of games, but titles originally designed for phones and tablets aren't necessarily as appealing on a big screen, and most work best with a third-party game controller. And it galls me that the Apple TV remote is so good, I'd have to keep it around in addition to my system-mastering Harmony rather than consigning it to a drawer like my other clickers. My main issue though is lack of a real app for Amazon Video, my second-favorite streaming video service after Netflix. I don't know who to blame, Amazon or Apple or the streaming gods themselves, but regardless, it doesn't make any sense, especially since there's an Amazon app for iPhones and iPads. With Amazon's recent decision to boot Apple TV and Chromecast devices from its store, I don't expect an Amazon app for Apple TV anytime soon. If you're an Apple fan who owns a lot of TV shows, movies and games on Apple devices already, the new Apple TV is absolutely worth the money. For people like me, however, it's a tougher sell. I like Roku better overall for its price-savvy search and wider app selection including Amazon, Sling TV and Spotify, as well as its more affordable hardware. To get the most out of Apple TV you need to be invested already in the Apple universe, with games, TV shows and movies you've purchased from iTunes and the App Store. That's a shame since it offers the best streaming experience today, and more potential tomorrow once app developers go to town finding ways to exploit the big screen and that slick remote. But if the previous Apple TV was any indication, this one's only going to grow more appealing. Pricing information: The new Apple TV comes in in two versions: $149 for the 32GB model, and $199 for the 64GB model. The previous Apple TV, first released in 2012, remains on sale at $69, £59 and AU$109. In the UK, the new model costs £129 for the 32GB and £169 for 64GB, while in Australia they cost AU$269 and AU$349. For most people I recommend the 32GB version. See "A choice of sizes: 32GB vs. 64GB" below for details. It's been more than three and a half years since the first Apple TV went on sale, but Apple didn't br
RE: Current build of El Capitan.
Hello Scott, I just had to chime in on this one. I am using Windows 10, with the latest version of Jaws, and am absolutely loving it. The only thing is, there is much tweaking that must be done in order to prevent the covert sharing of information with Microsoft but, once those tweaks are made, I think it the best version of Windows, yet. Having said that, I am absolutely loving El Capitan much more than I ever liked Yosemite. Of course, as with almost everything in life, it is a matter of opinion. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Current build of El Capitan. I hate to say it but I’ve tried windows 10 recently as well and it’s not as bad as I was hoping.:) Maybe someone at Microsoft listened although i find this unlikely. I’m chalking it up to the monkeys on typewriters theory. If you have enough microsoft engineers pounding on keyboards eventually one of them will write a decent OS. (or something like that) As a question about OS X? Is it possible to run OS X in a virtual machine? Assuming I’m using apple hardware so I’m compliant with the license can I create an OSX VM say under fusion? Never tried and wonder if you had since we were talking about alternate boot locations. Thank you Scott > On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external > drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to. > > Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs > that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because > I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed. That includes > activities, hotspots and Safari text editing. And I’m absolutely not at > liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which you should be running, > if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness it does appear the fixes > are coming for some of the reported issues so somebody is actually listening. > > My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my > experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS. I am > saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers. The end > days are almost upon us. :) > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You recei
How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps
Hello All, I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries. NOTE 1: This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on your iOS device. NOTE 2: The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes on a computer, only. As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break VoiceOver accessibility. In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of the app, back to the iOS device. This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer. As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer. For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all come to enjoy. Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who are blind or low vision. The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of an app. Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device. Updating apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized iOS compatible device. Confused? Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process: [BEGIN EXAMPLE] DAY ONE: 1. You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps. Your favorite app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver accessibility to it, should it be updated. 2. You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break its accessibility. 3. On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area. You locate the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button. This will update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is currently on your iOS device. Remember, you will only do this if you like the current version that is on your iOS device. Because you like to plan for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS navigation, etc. DAY TWO: 1. Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app. 2. You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver accessibility has been broken. 3. You immediately delete the app from your iOS device. 4. Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes, you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device, just as you would have done in iOS 8.x. [END EXAMPLE] The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any future updates break them. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Windows 10 push
Hello Shawn, I certainly do not wish to contradict E. T. as he may have access to more recently updated information than I. However, as far as I know, Windows 7 will be supported until the year 2020. To date, there is no mandatory update to Windows 10. In fact, I am writing this reply on a Windows 7 PC which, being an Enterprise version, does not even display the Windows 10 notification badge. I am also running a Windows 8.1 home Premium computer which, while displaying the option to upgrade to Windows 10, in no way warns that the option to do this will be taken away. Without going into greater detail, for those using a Home version of Windows 10, the ability to opt out of important updates and, in some cases, new feature ad-ons, no longer exists. Again, this is merely my understanding and I am certainly no authority on Microsoft so I welcome any corrections to my comments. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 push I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this not true? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am > curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7. > > I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or > another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the > first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update. > > How is Bootcamp handling this? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were > true? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Windows 10 push
Hello E.T., I am so sorry you experienced that. It must have been extremely frustrating. All I can say is that no one with whom I interact, locally, has been forced to upgrade to Windows 10. While I am a huge fan of Windows 10, generally speaking, I recommend upgrading only to those running Windows 8.x. I strongly suspect, and this is only a supposition on my part, that you had some kind of nefarious app forcing you to upgrade. That is to say, a colleague of a friend of mine in Texas, experienced a similar phenomenon; as it turned out, her copy of Windows had been compromised. I do not know if she was running Windows on a Boot Camp partition or not but I do recall that the problem did not stem from the native Windows OS. Can you imagine how the world would react were Microsoft to force people to upgrade? Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 push Let me put it like this. While that is probably true, Microsoft infected my Windows installation on the Mac by trying to get me to let them put Windows 10 on it. I could not in any way get past it and could not get other Windows updates. I do not know what their game is, why they cannot let people decide. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/31/2015 6:32 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this > not true? > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T. wrote: >> >>Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am >> curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7. >> >>I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or >> another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the >> first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update. >> >>How is Bootcamp handling this? >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >> true? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received t
RE: Windows 10 push
This is great information. Thank you for sharing it. I'll definitely be keeping a lookout for it as I have absolutely no intention of upgrading any of my Windows 7 PCs to Windows 10. I am a strong believer in the old adage of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it." Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 push I didn't actually get upgraded. I got annoyed when Windows Update appeared to be stuck with this. So googled it. First, Microsoft sneaked it in a couple months ago as an optional item with the name Update for Windows 7 and a kb number. This installs the gwx aoolet which waits for you to press that button on the update page. Until you do, you cannot check for other updates. Here is a link to what I found today about what is expected next year. <http://www.computerworld.com/article/2999548/microsoft-windows/microsoft-to-get-pushy-about-upgrading-to-windows-10.html> Maybe by that time I will wean myself off Windows completely and uninstall Bootcamp. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/31/2015 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello E.T., > > I am so sorry you experienced that. It must have been extremely frustrating. > > All I can say is that no one with whom I interact, locally, has been forced > to upgrade to Windows 10. > > While I am a huge fan of Windows 10, generally speaking, I recommend > upgrading only to those running Windows 8.x. > > I strongly suspect, and this is only a supposition on my part, that you had > some kind of nefarious app forcing you to upgrade. > > That is to say, a colleague of a friend of mine in Texas, experienced a > similar phenomenon; as it turned out, her copy of Windows had been > compromised. I do not know if she was running Windows on a Boot Camp > partition or not but I do recall that the problem did not stem from the > native Windows OS. > > Can you imagine how the world would react were Microsoft to force people to > upgrade? > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:39 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Windows 10 push > > Let me put it like this. While that is probably true, Microsoft infected > my Windows installation on the Mac by trying to get me to let them put > Windows 10 on it. I could not in any way get past it and could not get other > Windows updates. I do not know what their game is, why they cannot let people > decide. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were > true? > > On 10/31/2015 6:32 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >> I thought Windows 7 wasn't gonna be totally phased out until 2020. Is this >> not true? >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:25 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Some of you may have put Windows 10 on your Macs under Bootcamp. I am >>> curious if there were major issues going from Windows 7. >>> >>> I am asking because Microsoft is going to make this happen one way or >>> another next year, with or without your consent. They already started the >>> first stage last month pushing this upgrade via Windows Update. >>> >>> How is Bootcamp handling this? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>> true? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.c
RE: Trouble updating my mac.
Hello Stacey, Generally speaking, after a successful download from the App Store, the El Capitan installer should automatically begin. However, now that I think about it, I don't think it automatically ran for me, either. Hmmm! Anyway, When you're ready to install/upgrade to El Capitan, simply open the Apps folder, on your Mac. Then, scroll through the list of apps and you will find one with an appropriate name indicating that it is the installer for El Capitan. The date of the installer file will be that of the time at which you downloaded the file. Simply launch the app and follow the prompts. I suggest that you first reboot your Mac before beginning the upgrade. Good Luck, Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 4:28 PM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Trouble updating my mac. Hi all, I downloaded the latest update for my macbook air, but I can’t figure out how to open it How do I install it? Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware
Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing list. SUMMARY: One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled, receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the display from going to sleep. To be more precise, I have encountered this same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message alerts, only. This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending upon the level of the screen brightness. SCENARIO: 1. Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to quickly unlock the device. 2. Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen. 3. Now lock the screen. 4. Receive a text message from someone. 5. If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message. CONCLUSION: Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until activated by the user. However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is dismissed. I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts. However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the screen remains active until the alert is dismissed. This also has the collateral affect of heating up the phone. I have not attempted to reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver. My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my most frequently used apps. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How To Enable the Google Less Secure Apps Feature
Hello, I changed the subject line of this thread to more closely reflect the current discussion. Okay, I looked this up for you and the following is the easiest and most screen reader accessible way to change this setting in your Google account. To enable the Less Secure Apps feature, do the following: 1. Using your preferred web browser, sign in to your gMail account. Do not close the browser. This step merely insures that you are correctly signed into your gMail account. 2. Now, in the address bar of your preferred browser, used in step 1, paste in the following URL: http://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps 3. Now, simply switch the radio button from off to on. Your setting will be automatically saved. That's all there is to it. Following my signature, I will paste in the original Google support article on this along with its URL. Good Luck, Mark Allowing less secure apps to access your account Google may block sign-in attempts from some apps or devices that do not use modern security standards. Since these apps and devices are easier to break into, blocking them helps keep your account safe. Some examples of apps that do not support the latest security standards include: •The Mail app on your iPhone or iPad with iOS 6 or below •The Mail app on your Windows phone preceding the 8.1 release •Some Desktop mail clients like Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird Change account access for less secure apps To help keep Google Apps users' accounts secure, we may block less secure apps from accessing Google Apps accounts. As a Google Apps user, you will see a "Password incorrect" error when trying to sign in. If this is the case, you have two options: •Option 1: Upgrade to a more secure app that uses the most up to date security measures. All Google products, like Gmail, use the latest security measures. •Option 2: Change your settings to allow less secure apps to access your account. We don't recommend this option because it might make it easier for someone to break into your account. If you want to allow access anyway, follow these steps: 1.Go to the "Less secure apps" section in My Account. 2.Next to "Access for less secure apps," select Turn on. (Note to Google Apps users: This setting is hidden if your administrator has locked less secure app account access.) https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mauricio Molina Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 6:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Outlook on the mac and Gmail Hi Denise, I have run into this issue a few times while assisting others set up their Gmail account in Outlook on a Windows machine. Apparently, Gmail does not consider Outlook or the Mail app on the Mac to be secure. Going from memory, what had to be done is that we had to sign into the Gmail account using the web interface. Once there, we had to activate the link for Manage My Account. On this page there was a link that said something about Security, activate this link. Here is where I ran into trouble, at least using JAWS on a PC. There is an option to Allow Less Secure Apps and this option is off by default. Unfortunately, although it was always easy to locate the heading where this option was available, JAWS would not identify the option located below the heading as a checkbox and neither would any other Windows screen reader; I did not try this with the Mac and Voiceover. If you have sighted assistance, perhaps they can help with this last step. Once Allow Less Secure Apps is enabled, all will work as it should. I apologize I cannot provide the exact steps but hope the information above will be enough to get you where you need to be. Mauricio From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 4:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Outlook on the mac and gmail the e-mail stated as follows: someone just attempted to sign into your account with an app that doesn't meet modern security standards. Details: Friday, November 6, 2015 11:14 PM (Central Standard Time) Chicago, IL, USA* We strongly recommend that you use a secure app, like Gmail, to access your account. All apps made by Google meet these security standards. Using a less secure app, on the other hand, could leave your account vulnerable. Learn more. On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Grant wrote: What specifically did the Email say? The error message would probably provide guidance as to what’s going on. Are you using two-step verification where you have to enter both your password and a six-digit code when you sign into Gmail from a new device? If so, you need to visit your Google account settings and create an app-specific password rather than using the regular Gmail password you use to sign in on the web. Grant O
RE: haven't taken the plunge yet!
Hello Jeff, I, for one, am absolutely delighted with El Capitan. I cannot reproduce many of the bugs that some have mentioned. This may be, in part, because of the differences in the way people interact with the OS and/or applications. For instance, I think the Mail application is better than ever but, I use the mail application in standard/default view, complete with the preview pane, as opposed to Classic view. I think it comes down to how and what applications are most important to the user. For me, the most important application is OS X Mail. So, for me, as long as that one works as expected, then I can deal with all the rest. Having said that, I am finding El Capitan to be a remarkably stable and accessible compliment to iOS 9.x in virtually every regard. Consider this: If you were going to buy a new Mac, today, it would ship with El Capitan. Now, would that fact prevent you from buying the Mac? because of the reputed bugs? I don't think I've ever heard of a VoiceOver user returning a recently purchased Mac because of accessibility bugs. Just something to consider. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 2:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: haven't taken the plunge yet! Hi, Well when OS X 10.11 came out I upgraded and it wasn’t a good experience. Now I notice they are up to 10.11.1 do you think I should try it again? I’m running a 2012 15-inch macbook pro with 16gb of ram and an SSd. What do you guys think? Thanks, Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Something To Consider When Updating Your Mac
Hello Everyone, You know, I almost hesitate to post the following supposition for fear of unleashing a firestorm of debate but after my recent experiences updating several Macs from Yosemite to El Capitan, I am compelled to proceed. For the life of me, I cannot fathom why some who upgrade from Yosemite to El Capitan do so with virtually no negative results while others, experience countless and, according to them, almost catastrophic consequences, from an accessibility perspective. I have long suspected the following supposition but have recently begun to test my hypothesis, said hypothesis being the following: During the upgrade process, using VoiceOver too soon, can interrupt the installation and that it is this interruption that leads to the increase in the number of VoiceOver accessibility problems. Scenario: A totally blind person begins the upgrade process or even performs a fresh install of El Capitan. During this process, several screens are displayed but near the very end of the process, VoiceOver can be used even though the installation is not yet complete. Visually, the screen may display something like Completing Update. This screen is not comfortably accessible and, as a result, the totally blind person may not realize that there is still a progress bar that has not yet reached 100%. As a result of this lack of knowledge, the user begins performing VoiceOver actions including switching screen focus, etc. When this happens, I believe that the extremely final installation tasks are not properly completed. Whenever I install a copy of the OS, I am very careful to allow the installation process to complete and, sometimes, that final screen can remain on the display for what appears to be a remarkably long time, relative to the entire installation process. During my testing, in each instance in which I did not wait for the screen to disappear or I began using VoiceOver to interact with the OS before the screen disappeared, I noticed a significant degradation in the performance of VoiceOver. Now again, let me emphasize that this is just a guess on my part and in no way do I hold that it is a correct one. Be that as it may, I suggest that this is something to consider when updating your Mac. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Something To Consider When Updating Your Mac
Hello Devin, You ask an excellent question. I was afraid that I would cause some confusion in my initial post. Therefore, I will attempt to be more specific. My supposition that using VoiceOver may cause the OS to not complete the installation process only refers to the final, and I do mean the final screen that appears on the display, the one that says something like, "completing installation". There is no problem using VoiceOver during any of the previous installation screens. The question still remains, then, how can one know when the installation is truly complete. At this point, I recommend that one simply use the VoiceOver+either left or right arrow keys in order to obtain the status of the completion process. That is to say, do not interact with anything. If you receive a bonk sound, just leave it alone. When the installation is truly complete, you will be returned to the screen from which you launched the installation. In many cases, this will be the App Store. Of course, common sense dictates that if more than 20 to 30 minutes pass after you hear VoiceOver say something like "completing installation", then you will have to attempt to get more information via VoiceOver. I want to reiterate that I am only guessing at why some encounter more VoiceOver problems than others. While I have experienced a kind of pattern, which forms the basis of my hypothesis, in no way do I hold that I am correct. My experience could be nothing more than random chance or simply be the result of some other collateral factor of which I am not aware. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Something To Consider When Updating Your Mac If this is so, then how would we then know when the installation is 100% complete? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > You know, I almost hesitate to post the following supposition for fear > of unleashing a firestorm of debate but after my recent experiences > updating several Macs from Yosemite to El Capitan, I am compelled to proceed. > > For the life of me, I cannot fathom why some who upgrade from Yosemite > to El Capitan do so with virtually no negative results while others, > experience countless and, according to them, almost catastrophic > consequences, from an accessibility perspective. > > I have long suspected the following supposition but have recently > begun to test my hypothesis, said hypothesis being the following: > > During the upgrade process, using VoiceOver too soon, can interrupt > the installation and that it is this interruption that leads to the > increase in the number of VoiceOver accessibility problems. > > Scenario: > A totally blind person begins the upgrade process or even performs a > fresh install of El Capitan. During this process, several screens are > displayed but near the very end of the process, VoiceOver can be used > even though the installation is not yet complete. Visually, the > screen may display something like Completing Update. This screen is > not comfortably accessible and, as a result, the totally blind person > may not realize that there is still a progress bar that has not yet > reached 100%. As a result of this lack of knowledge, the user begins > performing VoiceOver actions including switching screen focus, etc. > When this happens, I believe that the extremely final installation tasks are > not properly completed. > > Whenever I install a copy of the OS, I am very careful to allow the > installation process to complete and, sometimes, that final screen can > remain on the display for what appears to be a remarkably long time, > relative to the entire installation process. > > During my testing, in each instance in which I did not wait for the > screen to disappear or I began using VoiceOver to interact with the OS > before the screen disappeared, I noticed a significant degradation in > the performance of VoiceOver. > > Now again, let me emphasize that this is just a guess on my part and > in no way do I hold that it is a correct one. > > Be that as it may, I suggest that this is something to consider when > updating your Mac. > > Mark > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderat
RE: Sprint launches LTE+ service
Thank you for posting this, Scott. I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as they are in the market for a new cell provider. I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers. Nothing like competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, up. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:52 AM To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via Subject: Sprint launches LTE+ service Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 markets. This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon plan costs in half. Read more here http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/ -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: how do i begin?
Hello Zoe, When you say a USB key, are you referring to one of those little key-fob like devices that are smaller than the size of an average finger? If so, I’m not certain I would use such a device to serve as the storage media for my backups. All things being equal, they are remarkably slow. While these little USB keys are marvelous for quickly transferring or even transporting data files, they would definitely not be my device of choice. If you have the money, I would recommend that you go to your local technology retailer and purchase a portable USB hard drive. In the USA, for example, one can acquire such a device at Best Buy for approximately $50. Of course, this is just my opinion. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: how do i begin? Hi guys, I have decided to upgrade my mac, and took the advice of a member who said to back up my system. Apperantly I need 28.8 gb of space to back up and I have I u s b key that has 59 gb of space so my questions are two, but let’s begin with the first. Do I need to format this key somehow to use with the imac? Or do I just connect and ready to go? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How to Delete or "Forget" a WiFi Network in Windows 10
Hello All, To those of you using Windows 10 on your Mac, the following piece comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp.com. If you are using Jaws 16 or later, I strongly suggest that you use the Jaws Touch Cursor to navigate dialog boxes. Enjoy and Good Luck, Mark How to Delete or "Forget" a WiFi Network in Windows 10 This brief guide will take you step by step through the process of removing (also known as "forgetting") a Wireless Network in Windows 10. Two of the most common reasons for deleting the connection settings of a wireless network that you've previously connected to are: 1. Troubleshooting a connection that no longer works. 2. To stop your device from automatically connecting to networks you don't use regularly (particularly helpful for laptop and tablet users). Here are the quick steps to take in order to remove a wireless network from Windows 10: 1. Click the "Start" button and select Settings 2. Select Network & Internet 3. Select Wi-Fi from the column on the left side of the window. From the Wi-Fi panel now displayed on the right side of the window, scroll down to and select/click Manage Wi-Fi settings 4. Scroll down to the Manage known networks section. From the list of all of your "known" (saved) Wi-Fi networks, select the one you want to delete by clicking on it once. Once it's been selected, a Forget button will appear. Click that button to remove the associated Wireless Network. 5. Select each of the other networks you want to delete (if any) and repeat the "click Forget" process. That's it! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating Problems in iTunes
Hello All, I am cross-posting this to both the Mac Visionaries and v iPhone mailing list because I think the steps described below will apply to both the Windows and Mac versions of iTunes. Today, in iTunes for Windows, I received a couple of download errors when attempting to update a couple of apps. The errors, effectively stated, that the download URLs were invalid. NOTE 1: I use Jaws 16 for Windows on this particular PC. I make extensive use of the Jaws Touch Cursor to interact with both iTunes and the iTunes Store. The computer in this scenario does not have an actual touch screen. Summary: My solution was to cancel the download session, then right-mouse click on each of the problem apps which displayed a list of options including one to show the app in the App Store. Once there, I simply clicked the download button for the app at which point it downloaded properly. Upon checking for updates, again, the problem app was no longer listed. NOTE 2: The reason I update my apps via iTunes on a desktop is because, as of iOS 9.x, updated apps are no longer automatically copied from the iOS device to the computer during sync sessions. Steps: The scenario in iTunes for Windows goes something like the following: 1. Open iTunes and go to the Update apps section. A list/grid of all the apps that have updates available should be displayed. If not, then click the Check for Updates button. 2. Select Update All. 3. As the apps are successfully updated, they will be removed from the list/grid. 4. If there is an app that cannot be updated for various reasons, a dialog box will be displayed with a cursory explanation as to why the download failed. At this point you can attempt to resume the download, at which point it will be successful; if not, go to the next step. 5. If any of the apps fail to download, iTunes will be placed into pause mode. Your only option at this point will be to attempt to resume the download at which point failure will occur again. The only way to get out of this loop, at least, the only way I have discovered, is to close iTunes. 6. Re-open iTunes. You should immediately be returned to the most recently viewed area of the application. In this scenario, the Apps update area. 7. At this point your update list/grid will only contain the apps that have failed to update. Right-mouse click on each app. From the resulting Shortcut list, select "Show in iTunes Store". 8. Once the app is displayed in the iTunes Store, simply select the Download button. Upon successful download, the app will no longer appear in the Apps Update area of iTunes. Good Luck, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: subscription request for my friend in this group
Hello Mukesh jain, Your friend's subscription request was denied because she/he failed to put any kind of explanation as to why he/she wants to subscribe to the group. As we sometimes have spammers attempt to subscribe to the list, if there is not some kind of an explanation, sentence, as to why one wishes to join, the subscription request will most likely be denied. Have your friend send another subscription request, including at least one sentence so that I know that he/she is a real person and not some kind of BOT and I will approve it. I’m fighting a terrible cold so it may take a day or so before I can do so. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mukesh jain Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: subscription request for my friend in this group Hello, I am a member of this list since four years and really been enjoying the contents of this group. I am using windows and mac on different machines and benifiting lot from it till now. Actually, one of my friend who is also interested who is also visually challenged interested to learn for the mac environment on the pc and mobile phones. So I have asked him to send the subscription request but it has been denied without mentioning any reasons. So would like to contact the owner of this group. So kindly provide the details for it. Looking forward for your valluable cooperation in this regard. Thanks in aniticipation, -- Regards, Mukesh jain Email: mukesh.jai...@gmail.com mukeshheerachandj...@ntpc.co.in Skype: mukeshjain211 Mob: 09977165123 "Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. " Helen Keller -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Here is a Great VoiceOver iOS App for Browsing Craig's List
Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. The other day, I was supporting a friend on her iOS device and discovered that she had downloaded this marvelous Craig's List app that just happens to work wonderfully with VoiceOver. I am going to paste in the link to the free version of the app but there is an ads-free version available, as well. Daily Craigslist App (Free Version) - Mobile Shopping & Classifieds by Lifelike Apps, Inc https://appsto.re/us/0ClkA.i Enjoy, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Mail Says Busy
Hello Brandon, I cannot reproduce your problem. The only time I receive a "mail busy" message is when I land on a thread that contains more than 30 or so messages. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:38 AM To: “Mac Visionaries“ Subject: Mail Says Busy Hey everyone, I just upgraded to the latest version of El Capitan yesterday. Now in Mail, a lot of times when I am on a message and try to jump to the content of it, Mail starts saying busy. I have to restart Voiceover to fix it. The only way for me to read emails now is to press enter to open it in a new window. Is anyone else having this same issue? -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares www.CoCreationCoaching.org Create a life of infinite possibilities! Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cocreationcoaching Twitter: https://twitter.com/coachcocreation -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
TIP: How to Enable the Microsoft Windows God Mode
Hello Everyone,
I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone mailing list, as some may
choose to use the iOS Cortana app in conjunction with their Windows PCs, and
to the Mac Visionaries Mailing list, for those running Windows on their
machines.
NOTE 1:
The following is valid for all versions of Windows 7, 8, and 10.
NOTE 2:
I have summarized the steps to enabling this feature, however, you will find
the link to the original article at the end of this post.
Enjoy,
Mark
TIP: How to Enable the Microsoft Windows God Mode
Here's a neat Windows 7 trick that's been doing the rounds on the Internet.
It enables "GodMode," a term devised by the Microsoft development team,
which provides a single place to access all Windows settings without needing
to browse options and folders in the Control Panel.
To use it:
1.
Create a new folder.
2.
Rename the folder to:
GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}
NOTE 3:
You can change the folder name to anything you'd like but the subsequent
period and code number are essential).
The folder icon will change - double click it to show the GodMode window:
The window shows more than 50 sections with quick links to configuration
options. Strictly speaking, it's not a God Mode since all the options are
available elsewhere. It's more akin to an "all tasks" list - but you may
find it easier than stumbling through Windows numerous screens and panels
Original Article at:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/activate-god-mode-windows-10
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RE: Most efficient way to read emails
Hello Traci, I am a huge fan of the Mac Mail application. In fact, I think it the absolute best resource that the Mac has to offer. With it, I can go through hundreds and hundreds of messages in just a few minutes with a minimum of keystrokes as VoiceOver automatically reads each message as it comes into focus. Having said this, there are a few things one must do in which to get this to happen. IN this post, I will only sketch out the broad strokes as a more detailed description would take more time to list than I have, at the moment. 1. You must use the Default layout view, complete with the preview pane intact. More simply put, do not modify the default view. 2. You must use the conversation view with all conversations, collapsed. 3. Your primary navigation key will be the Tab Key along with the arrow keys. Generally speaking, there is no need to use the enter key, the command+o key combo nor the command+w key-combo. If you would like more details on how to use the application as I do, please send me a message, off-list and we can schedule a time for a live walk-through, via phone. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Most efficient way to read emails Hi all, I’d like to here how people read their emails in Mac Mail. Personally, I’m finding it rather cumbersome & time consuming. Here is what I typically do… Hopefully, y’all have a better way. I use classic layout. Quick-nav is off & I hit right arrow to open the message thread. I navigate to the earliest message in the discussion & hit command-o to open. Once I’ve read that message, command-w to close, then delete. I then arrow up to the next message in the thread. I do this until I’m done reading the discussion. I’ve had inconsistent success with opening a thread by command-o, then using vo-j to jump message to message, but this doesn’t work all the time. Please, any tips? Does anyone use the other layout in mail? Is it faster? The one little time saver I miss, is deleting a message right from the message window. It seems I need to close it first to successfully delete it. Thank you, I appreciate the help. Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Most efficient way to read emails
Hello Matthew, It’s been quite a while since I produced a demonstration podcast. Frankly, until very recently, no one on the list has ever expressed an interest in my method for using the Mail application. I can tell you that I have fought long and hard with apple to retain the validity of the technique I use. Thank goodness, they continue to listen and as a result, I think El Capitan Mail is the finest version of the application, yet. Simply put, aside from my iOS banking apps that allow me to independently manage my financial affairs, the El Capitan mail application is my favorite utility of all time. Perhaps we could conduct a live conference call during which I could demo the application. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Janusauskas Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Most efficient way to read emails I have heard mention several times of this efficiency recipe that Mark has for quickly reading through large amounts of mail using mail.app on the Mac. I would be interested in the details. Perhaps a short guide on AppleVis would be helpful to many? On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Jonathan, this is quite exciting to me. So does that mean you could write a script that puts the subject column first, and that upon running that script, the change would stick? If so, I would be super interested in such a script. It would be even better if the settings were folder specific, but I'm guessing that's not possible? Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 17/12/2015, at 10:15 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: I have tested, that you can change the order the columns in the standard view of mail using AppleScript. Jonathan Cohn On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: For what it's worth, I also use the five-line preview. Often, this is enough to let me read the entire message, or at least most of it. If I need to open it, I press enter, and VO reads it automatically. I can press vo-a to speed up the reading process, but that's not usually necessary. When done, cmd-w closes the message and I'm back in the list. I always keep the preview pane closed, because with it opened, arrowing past a message is enough to mark it 'read' even if I didn't read it. I also use the modern layout, because the classic one doesn't support the preview text I mentioned before. yes, classic layout lets me sort the order of columns in the messages table, but losing that preview isn't worth saving a second by hearing the subject first, to me at least. This is a highly personal choice, and is based on what you are used to, how you read messages, and so on. Play with both layouts and see which you like best. I really can't offer anything more specific than that, because the 'best' way is subjective. On Dec 16, 2015, at 14:39, Georgina Joyce wrote: Hello, I too am a fan of the Apple mail. I do not use classic view., I have 5 lines showing. I just curser down and 5 lines is enough to judge whether I want to open it. Most messages I don’t bother. I just hit the delete key. This is using the wired keyboard. I only expand the thread I want to read. I haven’t found how to have 5 lines displayed for individual messages in a thread. I hit return to open message if I want to read more than the 5 lines. Or in a threaded message. I also use a smart mailbox with all my unread messages. Other rules for my PayPal receipts for example, are automatically moved into their respective mailboxes. I do need to open such messages to gain the read flag. HTH Gena On 16 Dec 2015, at 16:26, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Traci, I am a huge fan of the Mac Mail application. In fact, I think it the absolute best resource that the Mac has to offer. With it, I can go through hundreds and hundreds of messages in just a few minutes with a minimum of keystrokes as VoiceOver automatically reads each message as it comes into focus. Having said this, there are a few things one must do in which to get this to happen. IN this post, I will only sketch out the broad strokes as a more detailed description would take more time to list than I have, at the moment. 1. You must use the Default layout view, complete with the preview pane intact. More simply put, do not modify the default view. 2. You must use the conversation view with all conversations, collapsed. 3. Your primary navigation key will be the Tab Key along with the arrow keys. Generally speaking, there is no need to use the enter key, the command+o key combo nor the command+w key-combo. If you would like more details on how to use the application as I do, please send me a message, off-list and we can schedule a time for a live walk-through, via phone. Mark
RE: Most efficient way to read emails
re automatically moved into their respective mailboxes. I do need to open such messages to gain the read flag. HTH Gena On 16 Dec 2015, at 16:26, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Traci, I am a huge fan of the Mac Mail application. In fact, I think it the absolute best resource that the Mac has to offer. With it, I can go through hundreds and hundreds of messages in just a few minutes with a minimum of keystrokes as VoiceOver automatically reads each message as it comes into focus. Having said this, there are a few things one must do in which to get this to happen. IN this post, I will only sketch out the broad strokes as a more detailed description would take more time to list than I have, at the moment. 1. You must use the Default layout view, complete with the preview pane intact. More simply put, do not modify the default view. 2. You must use the conversation view with all conversations, collapsed. 3. Your primary navigation key will be the Tab Key along with the arrow keys. Generally speaking, there is no need to use the enter key, the command+o key combo nor the command+w key-combo. If you would like more details on how to use the application as I do, please send me a message, off-list and we can schedule a time for a live walk-through, via phone. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Most efficient way to read emails Hi all, I’d like to here how people read their emails in Mac Mail. Personally, I’m finding it rather cumbersome & time consuming. Here is what I typically do… Hopefully, y’all have a better way. I use classic layout. Quick-nav is off & I hit right arrow to open the message thread. I navigate to the earliest message in the discussion & hit command-o to open. Once I’ve read that message, command-w to close, then delete. I then arrow up to the next message in the thread. I do this until I’m done reading the discussion. I’ve had inconsistent success with opening a thread by command-o, then using vo-j to jump message to message, but this doesn’t work all the time. Please, any tips? Does anyone use the other layout in mail? Is it faster? The one little time saver I miss, is deleting a message right from the message window. It seems I need to close it first to successfully delete it. Thank you, I appreciate the help. Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searc
RE: Difficulties signing into appstore
Hello Andrew, While I am not certain why you cannot login to the app store from your Mac, I can suggest that you confirm your login credentials at the Apple ID manager page. It may be that you need to increase the security level of your password by either making it longer or by adding a symbol or two. Go to: http://appleid.apple.com and sign into the portal. if you need to update your password, you will receive a message prompting you to do so. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Difficulties signing into appstore Since last upgrade of El Capitan, I'm having difficulties signing into the AppStore. Although I enter correct credentials, the screen hangs there and then I get an error message to the effect that I have entered my password incorrectly too manny times and I need to retrieve it. And yet, I get no instructions as to how to retrieve it. Any ideas? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: how to know when the mac has shut down
Hello Rhonda, You ask an excellent question. To my knowledge, there is no vibratory or auditory feedback to indicate that the Mac is shutting down. By the same token, although this has been suggested to Apple, time and time again, by me and others, there is also no feedback to indicate when the display is locked, as there is on iPhone. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Partain Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: how to know when the mac has shut down Is there some way to have the mac make a sound when it is shutting down? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Question About Facebook
Hello Everyone, I am so delighted with the Facebook app for iPhone that I am wondering if there is such an app for Mac. When I searched the Mac App store, I could not find an app by Facebook. How do you all access Facebook on your Macs? I tried using Safari but had some difficulty navigating comments and such. I will be happy to download any recommended apps. Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: A Question About Facebook
Hello David, I only just today activated notifications from this list so did not see your original post. I came across the Menu Tab app in the app store but was a little confused by the name so did not explore it. As I said, I'm hoping to find an app that is as easy to use as the iOS app for all I want to do is read group posts and perhaps comment every now and then. You wrote that MenuTab Pro for Facebook is a Menu Bar app. What does this mean? Thank you for this suggestion. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Question About Facebook Hi, as I said the other day on here, I use MenuTab Pro for Facebook. This is a menubar app that has a keystroke to bring it up, set to control-f by default, and lets you see the desktop or mobile interface, and switch between them at any time. I prefer the desktop for most things, but love the notifications and ease of switching. Cheers Dave On 29 Nov 2013, at 01:56, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am so delighted with the Facebook app for iPhone that I am wondering > if there is such an app for Mac. > > When I searched the Mac App store, I could not find an app by Facebook. > > How do you all access Facebook on your Macs? I tried using Safari but > had some difficulty navigating comments and such. > > I will be happy to download any recommended apps. > > Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated. > > Mark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: A Question About Facebook
Hello Joanne, I searched for Facebook in the app store but did not find any that listed Facebook as the seller. I thought that there must be some kind of app for it but then I thought that perhaps people just used Safari for accessing it. Facebook is still very new to me and so I don't know exactly how much I don't know, if you get my meaning. I will do another search and perhaps come across the Facebook App. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Question About Facebook yes, there is an app for facebook on the mac. I'm not sure how accessible it is though, as i don't use facebook on my computer On 29/11/2013, David Taylor wrote: > Hi, as I said the other day on here, I use MenuTab Pro for Facebook. > This is a menubar app that has a keystroke to bring it up, set to > control-f by default, and lets you see the desktop or mobile > interface, and switch between them at any time. I prefer the desktop > for most things, but love the notifications and ease of switching. > > Cheers > Dave > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 01:56, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I am so delighted with the Facebook app for iPhone that I am >> wondering if there is such an app for Mac. >> >> When I searched the Mac App store, I could not find an app by Facebook. >> >> How do you all access Facebook on your Macs? I tried using Safari >> but had some difficulty navigating comments and such. >> >> I will be happy to download any recommended apps. >> >> Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Beware of Sour Apples
Hello Everyone, Just a heads-up that there is a fishing expedition to get into your iTunes account. Today, I received an email from what appeared to be Apple, sent directly to one of my valid Apple iTunes email addresses, informing me that I needed to update my iTunes password. The email went on to suggest that if I did not update my password within 24 hours, my iTunes account might be suspended due to suspicious activity. As a matter of policy, I immediately determined that the email was fraudulent but decided to scrutinize it thoroughly to determine just how sophisticated these fishing expeditions have become. Take it from me, this email looked almost completely legitimate right down to the Apple logo and copyright notices. I was very impressed. The only sure-fire way of proving that the email was a fake, from my limited perspective anyway, was to carefully copy the target URL into a text editor and review it. I was extremely careful not to accidentally click the imbedded re-direction link as I viewed the email on one of my Windows 7 computers. Even the bogus fishing link, imbedded in the email had both the words Apple and iTunes as part of its URL; very, very clever, to say the least. Just so you know, even if I had not been able to determine that the email was a fake, I would never have clicked any link imbedded within it. Instead, especially on a Windows 7 or Windows 8 PC, I would have first closed any email clients and/or browsers and rebooted the computer. On a Mac, I would probably not perform this step, but then again, maybe I would. Then, making sure to use an apple supported browser such as the latest version of Firefox, Internet Explorer, or Safari, I would have gone to: http://appleid.apple.com and checked the status of my account. As Always, Sip Your Apple cider Slowly, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iTunes short cut key
Hello Janine, I recently purchased a MacBook Pro with retina display and ported all of the settings from my old MacBook Pro to it using the Migration assistant. All, or so I thought anyway, almost all of my preferences were transferred over except the shortcut key to launch iTunes. Upon reading your post, I just created, via the VoiceOver Utility, the key-combo Option+I to open iTunes and it works perfectly; that is to say, when I use the key-combo Option + I, iTunes opens directly into the previously selected iTunes Library. So, I must conclude that the discrepancy between your result and mine must have something to do with the options you chose during the creation process. When I created the key-combo, under the actions Menu, I chose Custom Action and then selected Open Application. Did you do the same? I hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janine Smith Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes short cut key I have tried to create a short cut key from the keyboard commander to open iTunes. When I use the key I created it takes me to a dialogue box asking me to choose an iTunes library. Using the dock to go iTunes, it takes you directly to the sources list inside iTunes. Is there anyway to get to the same place with the short cut key? Any ideas why it should present this box? Appreciate a comment from anyone who has achieved this. Easy enough to use the dock so no hardship if it can't work. Thanks. Regards Janine Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Good and accessible NAS anyone?
Hello Krister, I am going to paste in an message I recently posted to the v iPhone list as I think it may relates to your question. I am also going to post it to this list as a separate thread. Mark Waking Up From An iTunes Nightmare That I Helped Create Hello Everyone, This message is just an F Y I: Back in 2007, I purchased my first NAS (network attached storage). For many of us, attaching a drive that contained its own web server, media server, and FTP server was exciting and a bit daunting. The general reason why people like using a network attached storage drive is so that anyone logged into the network has access to all of the files on the drive. A NAS provides a kind of localized version of a Cloud. For home users, before such devices such as a network attached storage drive was available, if people wanted to share files, they had to setup pier-to-pier networking or share drives and folders on one computer with another but doing so meant that the host computer had to be powered on all the time. Now you history buffs will no doubt find fault in my conclusions but it is not my goal to write a comprehensive history of technology here; I just want to sketch out a generalized background for the purpose of perspective. So, when I purchased my first iPhone, which was a 3GS, I downloaded iTunes on my Windows computer for the first time. To say that I absolutely hated iTunes would be the understatement of the millennium (smile). At that time, I had no real experience with the Mac or with any of Apple's file system or file handling policies. As a result, in retrospect of course, I made a mess of things in terms of telling iTunes what to do with what files. Please keep in mind that iTunes, itself, was very different back in those days and, on Windows at least, the program did not handle files as well as it does today. For example, the version of iTunes I started with, could not play certain video files if they were nested too deeply in the Windows file system. No doubt some of you may ask, how was such a scenario possible; just take my word for it, it was possible and did happen more often than not, for many of us who tried to impose a Windows type file structure on an Apple product. But I digress. So, when I installed my first copy of iTunes to use with my first iOS device, way back then, I installed it on the Windows computer's main drive. As time passed, and I began purchasing apps, creating playlists, importing photos, etc, I realized that it would only be a matter of time before the size of my iTunes Library would begin to dwarf the size of my computer's internal hard drive. I also worried that if anything happened to that computer, such as becoming infected with a virus, I would lose my iTunes Library. What did I do? You guessed it, I transferred my then rather tiny iTunes Library to my NAS. Believe it or not, this was quite exciting. What I soon discovered was that, in addition to making my iTunes Library independent of my primary computer, since the Library was on a constantly shared drive, I could access that exact same Library, complete with it's playlists, etc, from any PC on the network. Again, keep in mind that this was before the days of home sharing and such. Remember that I said that iTunes used to have a nested level file limit? In order to compensate for that little glitch, from within iTunes, I changed the location, on the NAS, of my Library several times until I found a formula that worked. I know this may sound arcane to some of you but, we old timers, had to do a great many things to keep the lights on, as it were. Once I realized the true power of a NAS, I purchased several more over the years in order to augment my home network. Network attached storage devices are wonderful but they do have two major drawbacks. (1) Many NAS devices will only allow you to access the files via their built-in web server. This means that you much use an Ethernet cable not a USB cable to see the files and (2) almost all of the NAS use proprietary files systems, many based on Linux. Why is this a problem? If anything happens to the physical enclosure, that is to say, the box in which the actual disk is installed, even if you can remove the disk from within the enclosure and place it in a USB box, the files will not be seen by your computer because of the network attached storage's proprietary operating system. Sometimes, the proprietary software installed on a NAS can be quite flaky after a while and simply stop working; or, due to poor quality control, the drive's controller will malfunction. This happens more than the manufacturers want the public to know. That wouldn't be so bad except, as I stated earlier, you cannot access the files on either a Windows computer or a Mac because the system is non-standard. Keep in mind that even when such a thing happens, usually, the files themselves are just f
Waking Up From An iTunes Nightmare That I Helped Create
Hello Everyone, This message is just an F Y I: Back in 2007, I purchased my first NAS (network attached storage). For many of us, attaching a drive that contained its own web server, media server, and FTP server was exciting and a bit daunting. The general reason why people like using a network attached storage drive is so that anyone logged into the network has access to all of the files on the drive. A NAS provides a kind of localized version of a Cloud. For home users, before such devices such as a network attached storage drive was available, if people wanted to share files, they had to setup pier-to-pier networking or share drives and folders on one computer with another but doing so meant that the host computer had to be powered on all the time. Now you history buffs will no doubt find fault in my conclusions but it is not my goal to write a comprehensive history of technology here; I just want to sketch out a generalized background for the purpose of perspective. So, when I purchased my first iPhone, which was a 3GS, I downloaded iTunes on my Windows computer for the first time. To say that I absolutely hated iTunes would be the understatement of the millennium (smile). At that time, I had no real experience with the Mac or with any of Apple's file system or file handling policies. As a result, in retrospect of course, I made a mess of things in terms of telling iTunes what to do with what files. Please keep in mind that iTunes, itself, was very different back in those days and, on Windows at least, the program did not handle files as well as it does today. For example, the version of iTunes I started with, could not play certain video files if they were nested too deeply in the Windows file system. No doubt some of you may ask, how was such a scenario possible; just take my word for it, it was possible and did happen more often than not, for many of us who tried to impose a Windows type file structure on an Apple product. But I digress. So, when I installed my first copy of iTunes to use with my first iOS device, way back then, I installed it on the Windows computer's main drive. As time passed, and I began purchasing apps, creating playlists, importing photos, etc, I realized that it would only be a matter of time before the size of my iTunes Library would begin to dwarf the size of my computer's internal hard drive. I also worried that if anything happened to that computer, such as becoming infected with a virus, I would lose my iTunes Library. What did I do? You guessed it, I transferred my then rather tiny iTunes Library to my NAS. Believe it or not, this was quite exciting. What I soon discovered was that, in addition to making my iTunes Library independent of my primary computer, since the Library was on a constantly shared drive, I could access that exact same Library, complete with it's playlists, etc, from any PC on the network. Again, keep in mind that this was before the days of home sharing and such. Remember that I said that iTunes used to have a nested level file limit? In order to compensate for that little glitch, from within iTunes, I changed the location, on the NAS, of my Library several times until I found a formula that worked. I know this may sound arcane to some of you but, we old timers, had to do a great many things to keep the lights on, as it were. Once I realized the true power of a NAS, I purchased several more over the years in order to augment my home network. Network attached storage devices are wonderful but they do have two major drawbacks. (1) Many NAS devices will only allow you to access the files via their built-in web server. This means that you much use an Ethernet cable not a USB cable to see the files and (2) almost all of the NAS use proprietary files systems, many based on Linux. Why is this a problem? If anything happens to the physical enclosure, that is to say, the box in which the actual disk is installed, even if you can remove the disk from within the enclosure and place it in a USB box, the files will not be seen by your computer because of the network attached storage's proprietary operating system. Sometimes, the proprietary software installed on a NAS can be quite flaky after a while and simply stop working; or, due to poor quality control, the drive's controller will malfunction. This happens more than the manufacturers want the public to know. That wouldn't be so bad except, as I stated earlier, you cannot access the files on either a Windows computer or a Mac because the system is non-standard. Keep in mind that even when such a thing happens, usually, the files themselves are just fine, you just can't access them. When this happens you have two choices. You can (1) ship the drive off to a special company that will charge you a great deal of money to open the drive, platter by platter, and extract the files for you or (2) remove the disk drive from its original NAS enclosure, place it i
RE: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper
Hello, I am a huge fan and longtime user of Super duper. It is totally VoiceOver accessible and works with both Maverick and Yosemite. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it? On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: > I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some things are also not available for free. > > Christopher Hallsworth > Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu > > On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote: >> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with >> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am >> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine >> >> Sent from my iPad >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
MacFuse, Anyone?
Hello All, I was just browsing around the system Preferences pane and discovered that I have an icon located at the very bottom called MacFuse. I did some research on this and discovered that some applications require it to run properly but, for the life of me, I cannot remember having ever installed it. Does one else have this preference icon listed in system preferences? Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: MacFuse, Anyone?
Hello William, Thank you so much for this info. You know, I'd completely forgotten about VM Whare Fusion being installed on my Mac. I haven't used it since 2011 because I just got tired of having to remember so many extra steps just to get Jaws to work. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Mutch Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MacFuse, Anyone? Hi I have it on my MacBook. If you have fusion installed then it puts it on your Mac. It has something to do with running windows.regards William Mutch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Help Needed on Uninstalling An Application from my Mac Running Maverick
Hello Everyone, I want to uninstall both VM Ware Fusion and MacFuse from my machine. Is it difficult to uninstall a program on the Mac? Believe it or not, I've never uninstalled a single app. On the other hand, I've only installed 5 third party apps and use all but VM Ware Fusion. So I guess that's a good average, eh? (smile) I know that Apple states that all one need do to uninstall an app is to simply put it into the Trash but I have heard through the years that one must do more than this to really uninstall it. I'll be honest, my fear of uninstalling incompletely or incorrectly comes from my many years of working with Windows which, as many of you may know, can turn ugly with just the click of a mouse. In years gone by, if one didn't uninstall something correctly, it could cause major startup problems. While I'm certain this is not the case in OSX, some fears are difficult to dispel. Any and all replies welcomed. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
ShortCut Key to Open Notifications Area Question
Hello Again, Is there a Shortcut key or can one create a shortcut key to open the Notifications area of Maverick? I was told, last week, by an Apple employee that a two-finger swipe from left to right on the TrackPad will open it but, as far as I can tell, this gesture only works when the TRackPad Commander is off. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
