RE: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Hi, > >Having same e-mail account everywhere is not very nice. Please > >consider allowing more of them. Yes, we want to implement this: Karma system should allow more e-mail addresses https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2212 We still don't know how difficult this is and when it will be done, though. I guess it depends on the implementation and how reliable you want to make it (from adding email addresses without further checking to a way to claim them properly in a way that can be effectively identified to your profile. Henri is handling this. > And then, I am > getting > thumbs down on planet.maemo always when I post something which is not > directly related to the current products (being 770, N800, N810) > (which I presume reduces the karma?) or is too deeply related to e.g. > programming. For what I see people bury items not related to maemo, which is fair. Posts exclusively about devices many times get zero input, sometimes even buries if they are too commercial - which is also understandable. I disagree that posts deeply related to programming get buries, now I remember Dominic, Xan, INdT guys and others writing about hardcore stuff and actually getting right to the top news. But they were posting about programming languages and components with a clear link to the maemo platform. People burying posts give negative karma to the authors, yes. As getting hearts gives positive karma. Makes sense. If you bother about this I would recommend you to have a category or section for maemo stuff and aggregate that one to the planet. If you don't bother, then don't bother. :) -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Hi, >> Comments welcome, as always :-) > >Having same e-mail account everywhere is not very nice. Please >consider allowing more of them. At least mailing list vs rest >(maemo profile, garage). Mailing list has relatively high >volume so people may want to handle it differently. Currently >I changed it to be the same (mainly to test it and see how >much points it will give me) but I don't plan to keep it that >way. Also more addresses would be useful to allow future >changes. I suppose if one changes e-mail for sending messages >to the list, his karma for list will start from scratch, right? That thing by the way applies to me too: I have my gmail address in garage account, but write often to maemo-developers from my Nokia address and also from home sometimes from my gmail address. And then, I am getting thumbs down on planet.maemo always when I post something which is not directly related to the current products (being 770, N800, N810) (which I presume reduces the karma?) or is too deeply related to e.g. programming. So with this setup, I don't care about karma, it will be terrible anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Non-tablet software (was Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma)
On Nov 22, 2007 6:29 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:14 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> > * All the different media converters for various OSes/platforms (over
> > half a
> > dozen, by my reckoning, including mediaserv)
> > * The official Windows flasher
> > * The maemo-provided command line flashers
> > * 0xfff flasher.
> > * My Mac OS X GUI flasher wrapper
>
> Maemo SDK VMware Appliance is also non-tablet.
>
> Then http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/videoconverter was just released and
> it could be a candidate as wel.
Agreed. So there's almost certainly enough software now to justify it.
> We could even discuss about offering product pages for the official SDK
> (just thinking out loud).
Makes sense to me.
> What about starting with a single placeholder for all non-tablet
> software ("PC"?). The click-to-install arrow would point to the default
> option (developers decide when creating the product page) and they could
> add links to alternate version in the description, the links...
As a starting point, that sounds fine - it's certainly better than
nothing and provides a one-stop-shop for Maemo-related applications.
When it's in use, it'll be easier to see if/when/how to refactor it.
Do you want me to raise a bug in Bugzilla?
Cheers,
Andrew
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Re: Non-tablet software (was Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma)
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:14 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> * All the different media converters for various OSes/platforms (over half a
> dozen, by my reckoning, including mediaserv)
> * The official Windows flasher
> * The maemo-provided command line flashers
> * 0xfff flasher.
> * My Mac OS X GUI flasher wrapper
Maemo SDK VMware Appliance is also non-tablet.
Then http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/videoconverter was just released and
it could be a candidate as wel.
We could even discuss about offering product pages for the official SDK
(just thinking out loud).
> OS categories of Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X on top of the IT OS ones
> would seem to make sense - if there're enough apps.
>
> "Click to install" would need to link to a .exe, a tarball and/or a
> .dmg respectively to be a fully-sensibly integrated system.
What about starting with a single placeholder for all non-tablet
software ("PC"?). The click-to-install arrow would point to the default
option (developers decide when creating the product page) and they could
add links to alternate version in the description, the links...
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Re: Non-tablet software (was Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma)
On Nov 8, 2007 4:24 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 15:21 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > I'm trying to work out if it's a problem when your most used > > applications aren't actually on the tablet itself, so definitely don't > > appear in the Application Catalog. > > Well, wait. It's for maemo and you can download it, so it should be > available somehow in http://maemo.org/downloads Good point. > Adding a "PC" tab next to OS2008,7,6? Maybe this is too overdone if we > only have <5 apps for non-tablet. Well, let's count them... the ones I know about are: * All the different media converters for various OSes/platforms (over half a dozen, by my reckoning, including mediaserv) * The official Windows flasher * The maemo-provided command line flashers * 0xfff flasher. * My Mac OS X GUI flasher wrapper Anybody working on anything else? I could envisage a GUI syncing tool as well, but I've not really thought about it. > Adding them to the OS categories anyway, stating somehow/somewhere that > this is software for PC? OS categories of Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X on top of the IT OS ones would seem to make sense - if there're enough apps. "Click to install" would need to link to a .exe, a tarball and/or a .dmg respectively to be a fully-sensibly integrated system. > Bring your ideas and we will find room for these applications as well. Excellent, thanks. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Pascal on armel Was: [Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma]
Hi, On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:47 +0100, ext Luca Olivetti wrote: > En/na Igor Stoppa ha escrit: > > > Currently i'm stuck with having source code for Delphi/FreePascal and > > not being able to compile it since (to the best of my knowledge) > > FreePascal only supports ABI, not EABI. > > Yes, that's the problem. OTOH, if it's a relatively simple console > program, with no external libraries dependencies, the static binary it > generates should run on the tablet (at least a simple hello world > worked, as well as a static C program compiled with an old ABI toolchain). > I hope one day freepascal for arm will be able to generate eabi calls, > but I don't think that's one of freepascal developers top priorities :-( > And something like KOL-CE (but for maemo) would be very interesting: > http://wiki.freepascal.org/KOL-CE thanks for the answer (also to Riku and peter and klaus here that provided live verbal feedback). I got it working this morning and being a compiler, it doesn't interact much with the system, apart from some file I/O. As a reference for others with similar issues, here's the WORKSFORME procedure: - install qemu - create a barebone debian arm image following the instructions from [1] - download the tarball from the emulated arm system the free pascal from [2], by using any of the available mirrors _but_ sourceforge (it doesn't have the arm version) - untar and install as root with the shell script no debian package available :-( Then i proceded by installing "make" (it was missing from the basic installation) and finally managed to compile the NBC compiler for Lego NXT by following its instructions. Later I'll make the binary available on garage. It seems to work on n810 and there is no difference between bytecode generated with the x86 version of nbc and the ARM one. [1] http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php [2] http://www.freepascal.org/down/arm/linux.var -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Hi, On Nov 7, 2007 8:38 PM, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really really really like Ohloh. I just set up Kagu Media Player under > Ohloh and it give excellent statistics and information about our project: > http://www.ohloh.net/projects/7442?p=Kagu+Media+Player Yep. We've been following Ohloh stats for the Midgard Project for a while now and they're really nice. > All we need is a way to map Ohloh Contributors to maemo.org accounts, and > map Ohloh Statistics to maemo.org's karma system, right? > Would the Ohloh API work for that? It would. The only problem is that they only allow 1000 (IIRC) API queries per day while we have 7000+ users to count karma for. This means we need to split the users we have into some kind of processing batches. Anyway, for the different ideas for collecting karma: the karma system in Midgard has a PHP plug-in API. I've already shown Ferenc how to do plug-ins but I will also make a doc about it soon so others can help us to expand the reach of the karma calculations. > Jesse Guardiani /Henri -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Non-tablet software (was Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma)
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 15:21 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > I'm trying to work out if it's a problem when your most used > applications aren't actually on the tablet itself, so definitely don't > appear in the Application Catalog. Well, wait. It's for maemo and you can download it, so it should be available somehow in http://maemo.org/downloads Adding a "PC" tab next to OS2008,7,6? Maybe this is too overdone if we only have <5 apps for non-tablet. Adding them to the OS categories anyway, stating somehow/somewhere that this is software for PC? Bring your ideas and we will find room for these applications as well. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
I really really really like Ohloh. I just set up Kagu Media Player under Ohloh and it give excellent statistics and information about our project: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/7442?p=Kagu+Media+Player All we need is a way to map Ohloh Contributors to maemo.org accounts, and map Ohloh Statistics to maemo.org's karma system, right? Would the Ohloh API work for that? http://www.ohloh.net/announcements/api_beta On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/1/07, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive less > > karma per effort? > > Unless we figure out some way to get the stats :-) > > Ohloh is an option... > > -- > Henri Bergius > Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software > http://bergie.iki.fi/ > > Skype: henribergius > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ > -- Jesse Guardiani Software Developer / Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Pascal on armel Was: [Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma]
En/na Igor Stoppa ha escrit: > Currently i'm stuck with having source code for Delphi/FreePascal and > not being able to compile it since (to the best of my knowledge) > FreePascal only supports ABI, not EABI. Yes, that's the problem. OTOH, if it's a relatively simple console program, with no external libraries dependencies, the static binary it generates should run on the tablet (at least a simple hello world worked, as well as a static C program compiled with an old ABI toolchain). I hope one day freepascal for arm will be able to generate eabi calls, but I don't think that's one of freepascal developers top priorities :-( And something like KOL-CE (but for maemo) would be very interesting: http://wiki.freepascal.org/KOL-CE > GPC would be a much better alternative since it basically can generate > executables for whatever is supported by the backend of gcc. > > So, is this attempt reasonable? Do you use gpc on the tablet? No, last time I looked gpc wasn't really delphi compatible, so it couldn't compile delphi/freepascal code without a lot of porting effort. Maybe things have changed now, I don't know. > BTW, Kdevelop is not that bad an IDE, albeit Konsolle + VIM + cscope is > the way to go imho ;-) As I said, having used delphi, and now lazarus, everything else seems primitive ;-) (at least for gui programming). Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: >> Pascal can use C libraries too, and I don't know of any IDE that even >> remotely approaches what delphi did (and lazarus is starting to do). >> Sure, it's not a fashion language like Java or C#, but so what? > > > Fashion? is this a new programming paradigm? > > Pascal starts the arrays at 1 ... Actually pascal starts the arrays with whatever index you like: you can make them start at 0, at 1, at 100, at -100, at green. I know that other, more limited ;-) languages, force the array boundaries on you, but that's not the case of pascal. Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Luca Olivetti wrote: > En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: > >>> Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old > >>> TurboPascal back. ;-) [^^^That was me] That was Luca: > > Are you crazy? I must develop some applications with pascal + mysql + > > gtk 2 then I felt in the Hell. I hate pascal but I learn so many gtk > > tricks :) Ok. When I said the old days with TP, I meant the work flow. It was easy to install, one key press to compile and one to generate a .exe file. When I started with Maemo, this was the first time I fiddled with the GNU autotools. Ok, I did that some time ago with some kde apps I wrote (back in the KDE 1.xx days) but didn't use it later. I create my Zaurus packages out of a single makefile. I did this also with my fractal package (its SDL based) at garage, but unfortunately the source code is lost. I wanted that as a example how to create .deb packages for Maemo without the autotools. But not using autotools will cause problems in uploading to the extras repository. BTW: I really like C, I am not really a fan of Pascal. My idea is to bring fabrice bellards Tiny C Compiler http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/tcc/ to the N8xx series. There exists a EABI backend for that. But therefor, I need some holidays. The TCC is really fast but generates bad optimized code. But _on_ the device compiling speed beats execution speed. The GCC is too fat to run nicely on a N8xx. The N810 would be nice for that, because of its integrated Keyboard. The TCC can directly compile to memory, so with a lightweight Editor this would be a nice little programming environment. greetings, -Klaus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Pascal on armel Was: [Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma]
Igor Stoppa wrote: > Hi, > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:56 +0100, ext Luca Olivetti wrote: > >> En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: >> > Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old > TurboPascal back. ;-) > >>> Are you crazy? I must develop some applications with pascal + mysql + >>> gtk 2 then I felt in the Hell. I hate pascal but I learn so many gtk >>> tricks :) >>> >> It's not my intention to start a language flame war >:-) but >> evidently you never heard of delphi and lazarus. It's sad that the >> "pascal" word is automatically associated to a clumsy, outdated language >> by most developers, since, while lazarus is not 100% mature, being >> modelled after delphi it blows away anything else for database and gui >> development (at least under linux, where there's no other comparable >> product). >> In fact, having started (real time) pascal development a long time ago, >> followed through to delphi and now using freepascal and lazarus when I >> can, I find the various C/C++/Java/whatever development environments >> really primitive (unsurprisingly, since they're only now trying to do >> what borland already did almost 15 years ago). >> > > ok, so maybe you can help me: I'm trying to get the NBC compiler > > http://bricxcc.sourceforge.net/nbc/ > > working on the tablet. > > Currently i'm stuck with having source code for Delphi/FreePascal and > not being able to compile it since (to the best of my knowledge) > FreePascal only supports ABI, not EABI. > > GPC would be a much better alternative since it basically can generate > executables for whatever is supported by the backend of gcc. > > So, is this attempt reasonable? Do you use gpc on the tablet? > gpc-4.1 is available[1] in debian/armel repo. However, according to the testsuite results in build log[2] working might be spotty... === gpc Summary === # of tests5111 # of expected passes 1697 # of unexpected failures 3411 # of unsupported tests3 [1] http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian/pool-armel/main/g/gpc-4.1/ [2] http://experimental.debian.net/fetch.php?&pkg=gpc-4.1&ver=2.1-4.1.2-17&arch=armel&stamp=1192946588&file=log&as=raw ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
> For the record, I'm using Pascal (Delphi and a modification of > Structured Text) in my job. Also for the record, we're making every > effort to escape Delphi wherever possible. Each language has its site. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
> > There are not pascal job vacancies. > > There aren't many, say, ruby or python vacancies either, does that make > them bad languages? > BTW, try googling fot "python paradox" > BTW2, there are (but not many nowadays) delphi vacancies For the record, I'm using Pascal (Delphi and a modification of Structured Text) in my job. Also for the record, we're making every effort to escape Delphi wherever possible. -- "Tak does not require that we think of Him, only that we think." --Grag Bashfullsson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
> Pascal can use C libraries too, and I don't know of any IDE that even > remotely approaches what delphi did (and lazarus is starting to do). > Sure, it's not a fashion language like Java or C#, but so what? Fashion? is this a new programming paradigm? Pascal starts the arrays at 1 ... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: > Are you sure it's not your intention? :P ;-) > My experience is about freepascal and its primitives mysql and more > stuff units. You must write a lot of source code lines to do nothing > and you must depend that somebody implements mysql or gtk "units" to > use it with all of its new features. I can just drop a couple of components on a form. That confirms my theory that you don't know lazarus ;-) > I think pascal is a good learning > language, And a good all-purpose language. And fast (both the compiler and the generated code). > but C/C++, Java or C# has a very powerfull IDEs and all the > APIs are supported. Pascal can use C libraries too, and I don't know of any IDE that even remotely approaches what delphi did (and lazarus is starting to do). Sure, it's not a fashion language like Java or C#, but so what? > There are not pascal job vacancies. There aren't many, say, ruby or python vacancies either, does that make them bad languages? BTW, try googling fot "python paradox" BTW2, there are (but not many nowadays) delphi vacancies Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
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> It's not my intention to start a language flame war >:-) but > evidently you never heard of delphi and lazarus. It's sad that the > "pascal" word is automatically associated to a clumsy, outdated language > by most developers, since, while lazarus is not 100% mature, being > modelled after delphi it blows away anything else for database and gui > development (at least under linux, where there's no other comparable > product). > In fact, having started (real time) pascal development a long time ago, > followed through to delphi and now using freepascal and lazarus when I > can, I find the various C/C++/Java/whatever development environments > really primitive (unsurprisingly, since they're only now trying to do > what borland already did almost 15 years ago). Are you sure it's not your intention? :P My experience is about freepascal and its primitives mysql and more stuff units. You must write a lot of source code lines to do nothing and you must depend that somebody implements mysql or gtk "units" to use it with all of its new features. I think pascal is a good learning language, but C/C++, Java or C# has a very powerfull IDEs and all the APIs are supported. There are not pascal job vacancies. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Pascal on armel Was: [Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma]
Hi, On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:56 +0100, ext Luca Olivetti wrote: > En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: > >>> Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old > >>> TurboPascal back. ;-) > > > > Are you crazy? I must develop some applications with pascal + mysql + > > gtk 2 then I felt in the Hell. I hate pascal but I learn so many gtk > > tricks :) > > It's not my intention to start a language flame war >:-) but > evidently you never heard of delphi and lazarus. It's sad that the > "pascal" word is automatically associated to a clumsy, outdated language > by most developers, since, while lazarus is not 100% mature, being > modelled after delphi it blows away anything else for database and gui > development (at least under linux, where there's no other comparable > product). > In fact, having started (real time) pascal development a long time ago, > followed through to delphi and now using freepascal and lazarus when I > can, I find the various C/C++/Java/whatever development environments > really primitive (unsurprisingly, since they're only now trying to do > what borland already did almost 15 years ago). ok, so maybe you can help me: I'm trying to get the NBC compiler http://bricxcc.sourceforge.net/nbc/ working on the tablet. Currently i'm stuck with having source code for Delphi/FreePascal and not being able to compile it since (to the best of my knowledge) FreePascal only supports ABI, not EABI. GPC would be a much better alternative since it basically can generate executables for whatever is supported by the backend of gcc. So, is this attempt reasonable? Do you use gpc on the tablet? BTW, Kdevelop is not that bad an IDE, albeit Konsolle + VIM + cscope is the way to go imho ;-) -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
En/na vicente garcia ha escrit: >>> Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old >>> TurboPascal back. ;-) > > Are you crazy? I must develop some applications with pascal + mysql + > gtk 2 then I felt in the Hell. I hate pascal but I learn so many gtk > tricks :) It's not my intention to start a language flame war >:-) but evidently you never heard of delphi and lazarus. It's sad that the "pascal" word is automatically associated to a clumsy, outdated language by most developers, since, while lazarus is not 100% mature, being modelled after delphi it blows away anything else for database and gui development (at least under linux, where there's no other comparable product). In fact, having started (real time) pascal development a long time ago, followed through to delphi and now using freepascal and lazarus when I can, I find the various C/C++/Java/whatever development environments really primitive (unsurprisingly, since they're only now trying to do what borland already did almost 15 years ago). Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
> > Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old > > TurboPascal back. ;-) > Are you crazy? I must develop some applications with pascal + mysql + gtk 2 then I felt in the Hell. I hate pascal but I learn so many gtk tricks :) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
En/na Klaus Rotter ha escrit: > Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old > TurboPascal back. ;-) For a moment I read your "want" as a "went", and thought that finally someone found a way to use freepascal (I also only got the "Pascal" part without the "turbo";-) with the tablet. Then I re-read more carefully :-( Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Hi, Let me tell something clear: the 770 and N800 device programs were executed without much complaints from your side. Expect results at least as good in the N810 maemo device program. You filed your submissions, you provided your reasons... that's all you need. The karma, yes, is a tool that also helps us deciding. But your submission and yourself is what counts - you can't change now ;) so there are no reasons to worry. Unless you enjoy worrying, of course. :) On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 00:09 +0100, ext Klaus Rotter wrote: > Ok... what is the "karma" useful for? I didn't get the point. Is it > important to have a high karma (at maemo.org)? If it is just that I > would feel better I can live without it... Don't worry about karma. In fact don't worry about maemo. maemo is about enjoying, not worrying. :) If the karma system helped you yesterday pushing your app to extras and reviewing your metadata in the Bomberman page at Downloads, then karma was already good for you. > 1) My bomberman project at downloads seems to have no pictures (it once > had pictures!) and no mention that I created it. I wanted to fix both. I > got an error each time I want to upload a picture of the game: Please file a bug. The new Downloads were uploaded yesterday and even when we had done a lot of internal testing is seems to have rough edges in the live system. > I wasn't able to remark that I created it. And maemo.org was so _slow_ > this evening (in europe) Yes, due to the Downloads side effects. > 2) It seems that downloads in garage aren't counted. Why? As said before in this list, this karma system is an ongoing effort. We still have to gather data from Garage/Gforge. What is more important though is that we count downloads from... Downloads and we plan to take into account downloads from the extras repository. Directing users to Garage is not something we recommend. > They > didn't show up. Maybe I did something wrong or it will take some time > for them to show up. Dunno, others are getting their software to extras. Again, please file a bug and provide there all the details so we can give you an answer.. > 4) My bugzilla activities aren't counted also. O.k., there are _few_, > but no counts at all? My bugzilla login is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but my > profile says "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Also as said, the quick fix is to modify your email address in your bugzilla profile to make it match with your maemo.org address. We are looking at the possibility of claiming more email addresses as suggested by Frantisek and others, but this won't be done right now. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Quim Gil wrote: > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > investing time and energies in the project. Ok... what is the "karma" useful for? I didn't get the point. Is it important to have a high karma (at maemo.org)? If it is just that I would feel better I can live without it... I looked at my karma, felt bad ;), found it somewhat poor and tried to raise it. 1) My bomberman project at downloads seems to have no pictures (it once had pictures!) and no mention that I created it. I wanted to fix both. I got an error each time I want to upload a picture of the game: Catchable fatal error: Object of class PEAR_Error could not be converted to string in /usr/share/midgard/svn/midcom/trunk/src/midcom.core/midcom/services/indexer/backend/solr.php on line 327 I wasn't able to remark that I created it. And maemo.org was so _slow_ this evening (in europe) 2) It seems that downloads in garage aren't counted. Why? 3) To get rid of 2), I tried to load up bomberman to the extras repository (O.k, I wanted that for a long time). Unfortunatly, I just have a chinook dev enviroment set up, so I tried to install bora beside it. This should really go to the How-Tos. Well, http://inz.fi/blog/2007/10/22/multi-target-development-for-maemo/ helped a little bit. So I build packages for chinook (armel and i386+src) and a package for bora (just armel) and loaded them up. They didn't show up. Maybe I did something wrong or it will take some time for them to show up. 4) My bugzilla activities aren't counted also. O.k., there are _few_, but no counts at all? My bugzilla login is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", but my profile says "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Finally after 4 hours of fiddeling I want the old days with my old TurboPascal back. ;-) -Klaus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Having same e-mail account everywhere is not very nice. Please consider > allowing more of them. Reported now as http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2212 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Henri Bergius wrote: > There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your > garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly > by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start > to show up nicely. Few days ago I changed my email in maemo profile and garage account to be the same as the one I use for mailing list and still have 0 in discussion column (related to maemo mailing lists?). Bug? > > Comments welcome, as always :-) Having same e-mail account everywhere is not very nice. Please consider allowing more of them. At least mailing list vs rest (maemo profile, garage). Mailing list has relatively high volume so people may want to handle it differently. Currently I changed it to be the same (mainly to test it and see how much points it will give me) but I don't plan to keep it that way. Also more addresses would be useful to allow future changes. I suppose if one changes e-mail for sending messages to the list, his karma for list will start from scratch, right? Overall this karma thing may be useful to push people to be more active so this looks like good thing. It may also result in worse quality vs quantity ratio in blogs, mailing list etc. Let's see how much of cheap karma hunting we'll get. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/3/07, Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my maemo address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have an bugzilla account with > that > address. But I reported bugs with [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not sure why > any more). No I cannot change my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address to my > [EMAIL PROTECTED] maemo address. > > Do you have any suggestion what to do? my suggestion would be to first change the web.de address to something else, then change alzental-castle.de to web.de. hope it works. -- Kemal ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Am Freitag, 2. November 2007 03:01 schrieb Henri Bergius: > On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your > > garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly > > by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start > > to show up nicely. > > Unfortunately the automatic recount did not fire this night. My bad, > hadn't actually installed the cron handler. > > I'll launch a manual recount a bit later today, and next night the > automatic one should happen normally. Henri, my maemo address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have an bugzilla account with that address. But I reported bugs with [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not sure why any more). No I cannot change my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] maemo address. Do you have any suggestion what to do? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Nov 2, 2007 5:33 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:48 -0400, ext Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive > > less karma per effort? > > As said, as for today most of the flesh is put on the success in > Downloads and in this sense it doesn't matter where are your commits as > far as your app has an entry in the application catalog and is receiving > good rates. I'm trying to work out if it's a problem when your most used applications aren't actually on the tablet itself, so definitely don't appear in the Application Catalog. In this circumstance, I could move svn from my own Subversion server to garage (I *am* thinking of creating a "Media Utils" project hosting mediaserv and a renamed 770-encode), and that this would "help" my karma (amongst the other benefits it'd get, like being patch tracking etc.) Otherwise I'm "stuck" with doing what I'm doing now, which is earning karma through blog posts which get favourited - which might well be fine. > We can't create a perfect karma system and we don't even pretend to do > that. Any value can be tricked, any function can be improved and so on. Indeed. I suppose the *real* question that nobody has asked yet, is how much is the karma going to weigh in on device programmes, both current and future? Prestige and ego are fine things, but we all like cheap, shiny, new gadgets ;-) > Still people can rate your apps & news if you took care to aggregate > them to maemo.org. More can be done if we can extract data from i.e. ITt > or Ohloh.net. Let's see how all this progresses. I imagine it'd be trivally possible to extract post count from ITT - suitably weighted within the karma system for the lack of any quality metric on those posts. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma (profile bug)
I reported this a few days ago here -> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2162 so far the way to fix it is to change your info while at garage.maemo.org not the main page... cya Jason Frédéric Crozat wrote: > There seems to be a cache issue in maemo.org profile management. > > I've tried to change email I used for my maemo account to the one I > already use for bugzilla and mailing list. I did the change on > maemo.org, it looks ok in the profile. But if I check back some hours > later, change seems to have been dropped. > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Le jeudi 01 novembre 2007 à 14:57 +0200, Quim Gil a écrit : > Hi, > > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > investing time and energies in the project. > > We are fine tuning the equation, that currently takes into account the > activity in several corners of maemo.org: > > - your applications in Downloads, the more stars they receive the more > karma you get. > > - your evaluation and comments in Downloads > > - your participation in garage projects > > - your activity in mailing lists (IMPORTANT: requires that your email > address is the same than in your maemo account) > > - your wiki pages (created only, edited would take too much resources to > scan - sorry). > > - your blog posts aggregated in planet - favs and buries affect your > karma. > > - your evaluation of posts in News There seems to be a cache issue in maemo.org profile management. I've tried to change email I used for my maemo account to the one I already use for bugzilla and mailing list. I did the change on maemo.org, it looks ok in the profile. But if I check back some hours later, change seems to have been dropped. -- Frédéric Crozat ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Friday 02 November 2007, Quim Gil wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:54 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: > > Please do not count wiki creates unless you can count edits too. Adding > > wiki creates causes some issues: > > Hum. You are right about the issues. > > Henri can provide details, but basically the problem with wiki edits is > that processing all of them takes just too much time (and resources?) > > On the other hand, if cheating by creating new wiki pages is easy, it is > not more difficult to cheat with wiki edits. It's also easy to cheat > with ranks, favs and buries. Not that difficult to cheat sending emails > to mailing lists. Even creating Garage projects. And even creating > Downloads pages about products that are just command line tools > recompiled. > > At the end all this helps only cheating yourself. If this cheating > helps you only being in the position 693 instead of 6930 you will > probably be still unnoticed karma-wise. If you are clever enough to > reach position 69 or 7 then a) your own exposure might work against you > or b) in fact you deserve that karma. ;) Ok my bad cheating should not have been #1. As we are not in a competition, it really doesn't matter, and I fear this clouded my point a bit. Premise: The Karma system is intended to give a bit of prestige to people who contirbute. Basically karma systems use ego to persue the common good, in this case more maemo content. When applied to the wiki it means that it is better* to create new pages then update another page. The worst thing you can do in a wiki is create a page that is almost like another. No one knows which is right or wrong or new or old. Wiki's tend to becomes very cluttered very quickly. I understand the huge compute power to compute karma based on edits. I also understand the desire to hang the karma carrot in front of the wiki, but I feel that wiki karma will do the opposite as its intent. I think it will begin to dilute the qualitry of the wiki. That said. It does not solve world peace so I won't waste much bandwidth. I rellay appreciae all the efforts Qim and Nokia have put into this communtity. Thanks Brian * Karma-wise and thus ego wise ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/2/07, Mike Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about applications that are not hosted in garage but are listed in the > application catalog? My program falls into this category [1]. Also, I > currently host the packages for it in my own repository (I will be moving to > the extras repository for future builds). Does that also affect the karma > calculations? Currently it is showing a zero for my product karma [2]. The problem is this: in the product page it says "Submitted by ", meaning that you're not marked as the application author in the database. I've now marked you as the author, so karma should come by tomorrow morning. If you are author of an application in the app catalog but not marked as such, go to the app page and click "edit metadata", and add yourself as the author. /Henri -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 00:47 -0700, ext Mike Morrison wrote: > What about applications that are not hosted in garage but are listed > in the application catalog? My program falls into this category [1]. > Also, I currently host the packages for it in my own repository (I > will be moving to the extras repository for future builds). Does that > also affect the karma calculations? Currently it is showing a zero for > my product karma [2]. This could be a bug, can you file it please? Applications listed in the app catalog should give you a good load of karma, no matter whether you have or not a garage project tied to them. > -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As said, as for today most of the flesh is put on the success in > Downloads and in this sense it doesn't matter where are your commits as > far as your app has an entry in the application catalog and is receiving > good rates. What about applications that are not hosted in garage but are listed in the application catalog? My program falls into this category [1]. Also, I currently host the packages for it in my own repository (I will be moving to the extras repository for future builds). Does that also affect the karma calculations? Currently it is showing a zero for my product karma [2]. [1] http://maemo.org/downloads/product/quiver [2] http://maemo.org/profile/view/mike_morrison ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your > garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly > by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start > to show up nicely. Unfortunately the automatic recount did not fire this night. My bad, hadn't actually installed the cron handler. I'll launch a manual recount a bit later today, and next night the automatic one should happen normally. -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:54 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: > Please do not count wiki creates unless you can count edits too. Adding wiki > creates causes some issues: Hum. You are right about the issues. Henri can provide details, but basically the problem with wiki edits is that processing all of them takes just too much time (and resources?) On the other hand, if cheating by creating new wiki pages is easy, it is not more difficult to cheat with wiki edits. It's also easy to cheat with ranks, favs and buries. Not that difficult to cheat sending emails to mailing lists. Even creating Garage projects. And even creating Downloads pages about products that are just command line tools recompiled. At the end all this helps only cheating yourself. If this cheating helps you only being in the position 693 instead of 6930 you will probably be still unnoticed karma-wise. If you are clever enough to reach position 69 or 7 then a) your own exposure might work against you or b) in fact you deserve that karma. ;) Even if karma is a concept borrowed by religion, let's not be too religious about it. PS for my L10n friends: Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda. :) -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:48 -0400, ext Jesse Guardiani wrote: > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive > less karma per effort? As said, as for today most of the flesh is put on the success in Downloads and in this sense it doesn't matter where are your commits as far as your app has an entry in the application catalog and is receiving good rates. We can't create a perfect karma system and we don't even pretend to do that. Any value can be tricked, any function can be improved and so on. As a principle it makes sense that a maemo.org karma analyzes better what is going on in *.maemo.org and puts more weight on that. You can still be totally active in your own infrastructure and/or in ITt, SF, upstream projects etc without putting a foot directly in *.maemo.org Still people can rate your apps & news if you took care to aggregate them to maemo.org. More can be done if we can extract data from i.e. ITt or Ohloh.net. Let's see how all this progresses. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2007 08:57 schrieb Quim Gil: > - your activity in bugzilla (same thing, IMPORTANT: requires that your > email address is the same than in your maemo account) Can I also delete a bugzilla account (no bugs reported with it)? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Thursday 01 November 2007, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > investing time and energies in the project. I really like the concept of proving some carrot for people to stop lurking and start contirbuting. > > - your wiki pages (created only, edited would take too much resources to > scan - sorry). Please do not count wiki creates unless you can count edits too. Adding wiki creates causes some issues: 1) It is easy to create useless pages for karma gobbling 2) It makes the creation of a new page more 'desirable' than fixing an old out of date page. Which in-turn disorganizes the wiki 3)It is too easy to just throw up information that is wrong/not enough and does not benefit the real troppers who updatre wiki pages. Being a project admin myself, I find the real heroes are the people who fix the wiki, not the ones who create the page in the first place. Keeping a wiki up-to-date is hard and a group effort. I reccommend we dgive karma to editors also, or no one at all with respect to the wiki. Just my luriking 2 cents. Brian ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
I'm probably just being thick, but what is it exactly that we're tracking? SVN commits? Forum posts? Programmer Hawtness factor? :) All jokes aside, if it's SVN commits that we're tracking, we could always do a post-commit hook... On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/1/07, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive less > > karma per effort? > > Unless we figure out some way to get the stats :-) > > Ohloh is an option... > > -- > Henri Bergius > Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software > http://bergie.iki.fi/ > > Skype: henribergius > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ > -- Jesse Guardiani Software Developer / Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/1/07, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive less > karma per effort? Unless we figure out some way to get the stats :-) Ohloh is an option... -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive less karma per effort? On 11/1/07, Niels Breet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> - your activity in mailing lists (IMPORTANT: requires that your email > >> address is the same than in your maemo account) - your activity in > >> bugzilla (same thing, IMPORTANT: requires that your email address is > the > >> same than in your maemo account) > > > > Sounds like a plan. BTW, does this mean there will be a > > service/tool/favor to change/update our email adresses in the bugzilla? > > Should be easy compared to updating the mailing list > > archives. > > > > Check https://bugs.maemo.org/userprefs.cgi when you are logged in to > bugzilla. You can change your email address there. > > - Niels > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > -- Jesse Guardiani Software Developer / Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive less karma per effort? On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > > investing time and energies in the project. > > While the algorithm is still being tuned and maemo team is adding more > karma calculation plugins, you can see the current "top contributors" > list in: > > http://maemo.org/profile/list > > Karma (with details on where it came from) is available in a profile > page. For example: > > http://maemo.org/profile/view/bergie > > Your own karma is also in: > > https://maemo.org/profile/ > > There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your > garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly > by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start > to show up nicely. > > Comments welcome, as always :-) > > /Henri > > PS: The karma system was developed as a quite generic Midgard module. > See the logic in > http://trac.midgard-project.org/browser/trunk/midcom/net.nehmer.account > > Plugins can be developed independently of the actual module and we're > happy to receive ideas of potential karma data sources. > > -- > Henri Bergius > Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software > http://bergie.iki.fi/ > > Skype: henribergius > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > -- Jesse Guardiani Software Developer / Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
> On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - your activity in mailing lists (IMPORTANT: requires that your email >> address is the same than in your maemo account) - your activity in >> bugzilla (same thing, IMPORTANT: requires that your email address is the >> same than in your maemo account) > > Sounds like a plan. BTW, does this mean there will be a > service/tool/favor to change/update our email adresses in the bugzilla? > Should be easy compared to updating the mailing list > archives. > Check https://bugs.maemo.org/userprefs.cgi when you are logged in to bugzilla. You can change your email address there. - Niels ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - your activity in mailing lists (IMPORTANT: requires that your email > address is the same than in your maemo account) > - your activity in bugzilla (same thing, IMPORTANT: requires that your > email address is the same than in your maemo account) Sounds like a plan. BTW, does this mean there will be a service/tool/favor to change/update our email adresses in the bugzilla? Should be easy compared to updating the mailing list archives. -- Kemal ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Hi, On 11/1/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > investing time and energies in the project. While the algorithm is still being tuned and maemo team is adding more karma calculation plugins, you can see the current "top contributors" list in: http://maemo.org/profile/list Karma (with details on where it came from) is available in a profile page. For example: http://maemo.org/profile/view/bergie Your own karma is also in: https://maemo.org/profile/ There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start to show up nicely. Comments welcome, as always :-) /Henri PS: The karma system was developed as a quite generic Midgard module. See the logic in http://trac.midgard-project.org/browser/trunk/midcom/net.nehmer.account Plugins can be developed independently of the actual module and we're happy to receive ideas of potential karma data sources. -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
