Re: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "J. van de Griek" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jeanmougin schrieb:
  I tought that when you burnt a CDR at speeds over 1x or 2x, u had more read
  errors.

 Well, that would be a problem with the CD burner, not with the player.

 If the burning device is of mediocre quality, or the media isn't all that,
 chances of burn errors or poorly readable result discs are higher.

 And that is probably what the originator of this thread meant. So, in that
 case, just try it out a couple of times, and if there's no problem, there's
 no problem!

Indeed, that is exactly what I meant, does burning faster sort of produce
less well defined discs, perhaps less discrimination between reflectivity
of 1's and 0's, less sharp edges because the laser is having to turn on and
off from a higher power and the higher heat on the disc sort of blurs the
bits slightly, or something...

The related topics which have come up have also been very interesting
however.  Many thanks.

Yours,
PrinceGaz.


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Re: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread las


"J. van de Griek" wrote:

 See, the problem in this situation is that the actual problem itself can be
 anywhere in either the burner, the media, the player, or in a combination of
 any of them...


Hopefully, more and more drives will start coming out with "burnproof"
technology, like the Plextor.  That will end this debate.  The real problem is
the software/hardware combination.  Like burnproof technology, a drive should be
able to know when to write and when to wait.  Kind of like printer spooling.
You store enough the information so that where will be no buffer problems.

The drive should have control over whether it writes or not if they information
isn't streaming fast enough.  Remember the old Star Trek where "Nomad" the
"changeling" feeds the information to the ships computer faster then the
computer can take it and the computer starts to smoke?

The next time that it was going to transfer information, Spock (e.g. the
"burnproof" technology) politely asked Nomad not to "send the data faster than
the computer could handle it".

Of course there is the occasional disc problem-some brands just seem to have
problems with some drives.  My daughter once had an HP drive that she had to
return because it would only write to HP discs.

But that's no assurance that an HP disc is good.  I have had trouble with HP
discs in my external HP drive from time to time.

Larry

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Re: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread J. van de Griek


las wrote:

 "J. van de Griek" wrote:

  See, the problem in this situation is that the actual problem itself can
be
  anywhere in either the burner, the media, the player, or in a
combination of
  any of them...

 Hopefully, more and more drives will start coming out with "burnproof"
 technology, like the Plextor.  That will end this debate.  The real
problem is
 the software/hardware combination.  Like burnproof technology, a drive
should be
 able to know when to write and when to wait.  Kind of like printer
spooling.
 You store enough the information so that where will be no buffer problems.

Actually, it doesn't seem as if Mike has a buffer underrun problem; he *can*
burn disks at 2x or 4x speeds, and they *can* be read by some of his CD
equipment, but not by his living room stereo CD player.

So the problem in this case is one of either media that do not come out
clear enough when burned at speeds 1x, a player that cannot correctly read
CDs that are burned too "loosely", or a burner that does not imprint the
digital info onto the media enough when burning at higher speeds.

Or a combination of these factors.

Since he has already tried using different media, I think a combination of a
weak burner and a shabby CD player is the most likely; either the burner
doesn't leave enough imprint on the media at high speeds, or the player is
bad at reading low-differential CD-Rs, or both.

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MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread Cedric


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I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
I need some help.=20

Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
stereo.=20

When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20

If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
computer soundcard.=20

If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20

If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
digitally from a stereo?=20

If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
is good value for its price?=20

Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
worst. Why?=20

- recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20

- recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20

- recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20

Thanks a lot !=20

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Re: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeanmougin




Les connexions RCA sont des prises blanches et rouges. Si tu les branches a
ton Midiman CO2 pour utiliser la sortie optique et ensuite enregistrer
nmériquement, ça ne marchera pas.

La différence entre RCA et coaxial? Les RCA sont rouge et blanc (2 prises en
tout, une pou chaque canal stéréo) le cable coaxial n' a qu' une prise quie
est souvent dorée.

Cedric a *crit :

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 I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
 I need some help.=20

 Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
 recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
 doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
 need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
 stereo.=20

 When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
 of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20

 If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
 2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
 connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
 sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
 stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
 which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
 computer soundcard.=20

 If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20

 If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
 digitally from a stereo?=20

 If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
 stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
 computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
 is good value for its price?=20

 Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
 worst. Why?=20

 - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20

 - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20

 - recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20

 Thanks a lot !=20

 Cedric

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Re: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread J. Coon


Peter, he doesn't really have get a new sound card.  He can record
analog and for the most part it will still sound just as good.  Of
course if he insists on making digital recording he will have to upgrade
the sound card like you say.  His recorder will have a line in and a
digital in.  It will work either way.



Peter Forest wrote:
 
 La meilleure solution a ton probleme serait d'acheter une carte de son ou un
 MD Port Digital pour ton ordinateur...
 
 Meme avec un enregistrement digital, le transfert des nom de track ne se
 fera pas... Tu auras une excellent qualite de son pratiquement identique a
 l'original ainsi que les tracks divise au bon endroit...
 
 Si tu as besoin de plus amples informations, fais moi le savoir par email...
 
 Pierre : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: MD: CD Burning Software

2000-11-07 Thread JT


 I am running a Pentium 1 machinge, 133 MHz (cps), with
 80 MB ram.  I don't remember the manufacturer of the
 burner that I have...it's a shit brand, about 4 years
 old.
 
 I would like something easy to operate, and free
 wouldn't hurt either.

Well if you just want to burn Audio CDs, you can use Feurio
www.feurio.de
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RE: MD: Tuner-less car MD players

2000-11-07 Thread Simon Mackay


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Subject: Re: MD: Tuner-less car MD players



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Pioneer has one, Sony has had a few.  Most needed a head unit to control
it though.
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The concept I am talking about is a unit that DOESN'T need to be controlled
by a particular manufacturer's head unit. Rather, it has its own disc
navigation controls on its front panel and has its own sound controls. This
is just like those tape players that I mentioned about in my previous
posting.

The idea is to make it independent of any OEM or aftermarket head unit that
is implemented in the vehicle. One of the best examples for CDs was a CD
player that Radio Shack sold in the late 80s and was also available by some
other dealers under the Sencor brand. This unit had no tuner and had its own
power amplifier and fitted in between an existing head unit and the
speakers.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: CD Burning Software

2000-11-07 Thread J. Coon



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I use Easy CD creator and it works well, and easy.  It was free since it
came with my ZIPCD drive.


There are also some free ones on http://tucows.com  
and some at http://download.com  or
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10001-103-0-1-7,00.html?tag=st%2Edl%2E10001%2Esbsrqt=cdrcn=ca=10001


James Jarvie wrote:
 
 Since we're on the topic of burning CDs.  In case I
 want to do something while my MDX-D3 is in the repair
 shop (again), can anybody recommend a good program for
 someone who is not all that into this, and doesn't
 have the time to spending learning?
 
 I am running a Pentium 1 machinge, 133 MHz (cps), with
 80 MB ram.  I don't remember the manufacturer of the
 burner that I have...it's a shit brand, about 4 years
 old.
 
 I would like something easy to operate, and free
 wouldn't hurt either.  Do any of them allow you to go
 from one drive to another without first storing the
 files on you HD?  If not, I am going to have problems,
 because I only have a 2.5 GB drive (partitioned as 2.0
 and .5) and there's not alot of room left.  Don't have
 the money to upgrade, and my wife would shoot me if I
 spent it on the computer instead of the house anyway.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread las


JT wrote:

 Neither of those are accurate.  The *.cda files are a virtual
 filesystem Windows 9x imposes on CDs.  There are no files on am
 audio CD, just 44.1KHz PCM audio data.  The CD burning program
 converts the waves to that data when it burns the CD.


No, I stated just what you mentioned above as a possible explanation:

"(if they can't then the wave files are  somehow automatically
converted.."

Larry

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MD: HP CD-R Drives and Maxell Media

2000-11-07 Thread Reeves Easley-McPherson



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At my office, we have several HP 8000 series CD writers and we made several
"coasters" at first with HP media.  We contacted HP Tech support and the
technician recommended Maxell brand CD-R media and we have had no problems
with the HP drives using Maxell Media since then.

# Subject: Re: MD: Speeding
#
#  My daughter once had an HP drive
# that she had to
# return because it would only write to HP discs.
#
# But that's no assurance that an HP disc is good.  I have had
# trouble with HP
# discs in my external HP drive from time to time.
#
# Larry

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MD: CD Burning Software

2000-11-07 Thread James Jarvie


Since we're on the topic of burning CDs.  In case I
want to do something while my MDX-D3 is in the repair
shop (again), can anybody recommend a good program for
someone who is not all that into this, and doesn't
have the time to spending learning?  

I am running a Pentium 1 machinge, 133 MHz (cps), with
80 MB ram.  I don't remember the manufacturer of the
burner that I have...it's a shit brand, about 4 years
old.

I would like something easy to operate, and free
wouldn't hurt either.  Do any of them allow you to go
from one drive to another without first storing the
files on you HD?  If not, I am going to have problems,
because I only have a 2.5 GB drive (partitioned as 2.0
and .5) and there's not alot of room left.  Don't have
the money to upgrade, and my wife would shoot me if I
spent it on the computer instead of the house anyway.

Thanks,

James

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Re: MD: CD Burning Software

2000-11-07 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* James Jarvie [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 07 Nov 2000
| I would like something easy to operate, and free wouldn't hurt either.

Well, if you're willing to go the Linux/FreeBSD route, you can use
cdrecord, cdrdao, or xcdroast.

If you are going to stick with Windows then none of the good ones are free,
but both CDRWIN and Nero are excelent products and cost around $50 each.

Recent versions of xcdroast and both of the Windows programs can skip the
image creation step.  But I do not know if your machine is fast enough to
write discs if you do that.

And FWIW, an el cheapo Pentium III machine can be had for less than $400.
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Re: MD: [Re: Speeding]

2000-11-07 Thread Taky Cheung


I agreed! EZCD Creator isn't the best one. I used Nero before. Got into so
many troubles. can't boot up. I have to unplug my Hitachi DVD drive.
Otherwise, Windows won't start. And then, it has conflict with my USB
Compact Flash card reader. Yeah, I know it's good to use Nero (especially
making BACKUP copies of the Sony Playstation CD you purchased).

I also used WinOnCD. I thought it was a great software. I burned a lot of
Video CD. I thought they are fine. Later on, all the video files it
generated are corrupted! and I deleted the source file already. sucks!

DirectCD is also another piece of Junk. very unreliable.

I think we're really off topic :) sorry folks.

 IMO, EZ CD Creator is probably the worst CD burning software you
 can get.  It won't even run on my system (installs fine though).  I
 use Nero ( www.ahead.de ), a bit more complicated but vastly
 superior, IMO.
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Re: MD: speaker wattage and headphone output

2000-11-07 Thread David W. Tamkin


Jim Coon answered my questions,

| The sound quality will be the same.

After posting I found Aiwa's customer service number and called there.  The
rep said the same thing as the salesdroid did about quality but couldn't give
me any specifics.  He did acknowledge the key difference for my situation:
that speaker wattage does not affect headphone output.  (Of course it doesn't
affect TOSlink output either, and he confirmed that the TOSlink output is
active only for CD/CDR/CDRW play; the unit has no ADC and does not provide
S/PDIF from radio signals or audiocassette play.)

| You aren't going to over drive either one.

My question was about driving them *enough*, so I take it from your reply
that it was a given that it could.

| 30 watts per channel will be a 3 db increase in the sound level...  Or
| just enough for you to hear the you turned it louder.  You won't be
| operating anywhere near that.  You will be in a linear portion of the
| output and it will make no difference.

OK then, thanks to you and the Aiwa rep I'm keeping the 14 instead of going
to the trouble of returning it and then spending $10 more for the 17.  (It's
hard enough to lug the 14, and the 17 probably is heavier.)

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MD: speaker wattage and headphone output

2000-11-07 Thread David W. Tamkin


My minisystem, which I rely on for tuner input to MD, bit the dust and needs
to be replaced.

I'm waffling between two models of Aiwa's NSX-AJ series: the NSX-AJ14 has 15W
per channel, while the NSX-AJ17 has 30W but costs more.  (Exactly how much
more I'm still trying to determine, because there's a rebate on the 14 and I
can't find out whether it appplies to the 17.)  I bought a 14 but thought of
these things on the way home, so it's still sealed in its carton.

The deceased system had only 5W per channel, but it was more than loud enough
for my bedroom, and I'm far past the age when one wants one's sound system to
shake the walls.  A salesperson at Circuit City told me that higher wattages
improve quality (whatever exactly that means), not just potential volume. 
But I'd be recording to MD from the headphone jack, not the speaker connec-
tions; do wattage differences affect the headphone output?  If not, I might
as well keep the 14.  If so, I can try the 14 to see if its headphone output
is loud enough, but what about this "quality" issue?

Any applicable advice will be appreciated.

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Re: MD: HP CD-R Drives and Maxell Media

2000-11-07 Thread mburger



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Interestingly, enough, I've had the opposite happen, here at my full time
job.  While some of our users have been having problems with Imation CD-R
media, but the HP CD-Rs worked pretty well.

Odd...shrug

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At my office, we have several HP 8000 series CD writers and we made several
"coasters" at first with HP media.  We contacted HP Tech support and the
technician recommended Maxell brand CD-R media and we have had no problems
with the HP drives using Maxell Media since then.

# Subject: Re: MD: Speeding
#
#  My daughter once had an HP drive
# that she had to
# return because it would only write to HP discs.
#
# But that's no assurance that an HP disc is good.  I have had
# trouble with HP
# discs in my external HP drive from time to time.
#
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Re: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread J. van de Griek


PrinceGaz a ecri:

 From: "J. van de Griek" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  If the burning device is of mediocre quality, or the media isn't all
that,
  chances of burn errors or poorly readable result discs are higher.
 
  And that is probably what the originator of this thread meant. So, in
that
  case, just try it out a couple of times, and if there's no problem,
there's
  no problem!

 Indeed, that is exactly what I meant, does burning faster sort of produce
 less well defined discs, perhaps less discrimination between reflectivity
 of 1's and 0's, less sharp edges because the laser is having to turn on
and
 off from a higher power and the higher heat on the disc sort of blurs the
 bits slightly, or something...

Yes. Sort of.

See, the problem in this situation is that the actual problem itself can be
anywhere in either the burner, the media, the player, or in a combination of
any of them...

When the disc is burned at a higher speed, the burner needs a more powerful
laser to make sure the burn is sufficient, ensuring a good readable "one" or
"zero". Also, the media needs to be susceptible enough to be burnt that
fast, and finally the player needs to be sensitive enough to distinguish the
ones and zeros on the disc.

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RE: MD: kheops

2000-11-07 Thread Peter Forest


Thanks for all your nice comments...

Maybe you will be interested to know that we now sell, until stock last, all
our Minidisc 74mn 5 colors for only $1.40 each ! And more, always, 1 Free
Minidisc 74mn with every order with us !

So after all, the price is even lower than $1.40 by disc!

Simply visit this link :

https://maia.safe-order.net/kheopsminidisc/store/c713.html

Or visit or website at : www.kheopsminidisc.com

(Shipping and Handling not included in this price : we charge only actual
shipping and handling charge based on weight for every order...)



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www.kheopsinternational.com


I fully agree.  I have done a considerable amount of business with Peter.
He
may at times seem a little aggressive in promoting his own business.  But he
tries just as hard to inform us of deals that offer nothing for him.

He obviously spends a great deal of time searching the web to find these.
There has been talk that many of his own ads have been banned.  This is
grossly
unfair.  He as saved anyone who has taken advantage of his non ads much more
than it would cost him to advertise.

I strongly support him and his efforts.

I have never met the man.   No nothing about him (other than he is French
Canadian-which he told us-and has a little trouble with English).  He is a
very
reliable person to do business with.

Larry

Mike Hooker wrote:

  hi,
 i would like to thank kheops for keeping us informed about all the
 various deals and discounts available for us minidisc users. Obviously, he
 is trying to build a business, but what better way than being of service
to
 the community. a lot of what he posts has zero to do with what he sells. i
 could never spend the time to make myself aware of all the discounts out
 there, but thanks to his posts, i was able to get a mz-r37 to my door for
 112.00 bucks .  it is well worth the extra bandwith . i dont know the guy
,
 but have used him, and will continue to do so.

 Mike Hooker
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RE: MD: Speeding

2000-11-07 Thread Nathan White


Are you sure you are using the correct burning method? It sounds to me like
you are just copying mp3, wav, whatever to your cd? What is the file format
of the tracks you are dragging over to your burner? You need to convert your
audio files to *.cda (I think that's what it is) for CD players to be able
to read it. That's probably why you can only play it in your cd-rom.

Nathan White
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Subject: Re: MD: Speeding


The burner is a Ricoh 6200S, running on an Adaptec 2940U2W.  The only
issue I've ever seen, really, is what I've described, when it comes to
this type of burn.  Other than the obvious overrun/underrun which
occasionally happens, no matter what software/burner/interface, etc you
use, this is it.

The procedure for copying my audio CDs is no different the than the
procedure for burning my data CDs...copy the tracks from the source CD to
the target CD, click the burn button, click the finalize button, and
voila...she is done.

Like I said, I can play them in my other systems' CD-ROMs, but not on my
CD Player...shrug

Whatever...it's not like the issue is going to be solved, anyway.  I've
stopped burning audio CDs, anyhow, since I got my MD recorder.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Where I "got that one from" was experience...I burned
 a couple of audio
  CDs (copying an audio CD in my CD-ROM drive to a CD-R
 in my burner) at 2x
  (maximum speed of my burner), and my Pioneer 6-disc
 changer in the next
  room could not play the CD.  Any CD-ROM in the house
 could (and I have a
  number of systems to choose from in that regard), but
 no CD player.

 Well that's strange.  No offense, but either your CD
 burner sucks, your CD players suck, or you didn't close
 the disc.  I have burned audio CDs at 12x and had no
 problem playing them =)
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RE: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread Richard Lang


Hi,

 Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc 
 portable =
 recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
 doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I 
 definitely =
 need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
 stereo.=20

Unless your stereo has a co-ax output, you can't record digitally with the
equipment you have.  You need either a CD player, stereo, or computer with
CD drive and soundcard, any of which need to have an Optical or Co-axial
outpout, and a digital cable to connect your recording MD prtable to the CD.

 When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the 
 analogue IN =
 of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20

Analogue.  Co-ax and Optical connections are both digital (most people on
this list would say they both produce identical quality digital recordings,
a few will argue one is slightly better than the other but both are good).
RCA connections are analogue.

I wouldn't write analogue off for recording.  It isn't bad sound quality at
all.  Depending on your sense of hearing (you may have to be an audiophile
for this), it sometimes gives you a chance to "tune" the source CD sound to
your tastes a little bit (e.g. according to the equipment you use, through
CD D/A conversion, interconnects, putting the sound through an equaliser,
variable digital filter, or other equipment) - I mention this only because
I've heard some people say that an analogue bversion of some tracks sound
better/different to them than the digital copy.  However that comes at the
cost of convenience, and track marks, which for me (especially with dance
music) is the key.

 If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
 stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
 computer, isn't it? 

You could replace your CD player with a new one that has an optical output.


Richard Lang
Solicitor

Duncan Cotterill
Christchurch, New Zealand

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RE: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread Peter Forest


La meilleure solution a ton probleme serait d'acheter une carte de son ou un
MD Port Digital pour ton ordinateur...

Meme avec un enregistrement digital, le transfert des nom de track ne se
fera pas... Tu auras une excellent qualite de son pratiquement identique a
l'original ainsi que les tracks divise au bon endroit...

Si tu as besoin de plus amples informations, fais moi le savoir par email...

Pierre : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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***Peter Forest***
www.kheopsminidisc.com
www.kheopsinternational.com


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I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
I need some help.=20

Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
stereo.=20

When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20

If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
computer soundcard.=20

If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20

If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
digitally from a stereo?=20

If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
is good value for its price?=20

Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
worst. Why?=20

- recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20

- recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20

- recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20

Thanks a lot !=20

Cedric


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Re: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeanmougin



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when we talk about "digital" or "analog" recording , we talk about the method
to transfer the music. Digital--- S/PDIF (coaxial cable) and TosLink
(optical)
 Analog--- analog cable (RCA or mini-jack)

Whatever type of cable you use, the music will be digitally recorded on the
disc. The only difference is that when you use digital cables, you do not
pass through digital/analog then analog digital conversion hence less
artifacts. When you record with analog cable, you pass through D/A-A/D
conversion. But nowadays, analogue recordings are excellent ( I've made a lot
of them cause they have the advantage to allow a second-generation digital
copy (or more but in this case you need a scms stripper).
Cedric a *crit :

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 I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
 I need some help.=20

 Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
 recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
 doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
 need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
 stereo.=20

 When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
 of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20

 If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
 2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
 connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
 sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
 stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
 which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
 computer soundcard.=20

 If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20

 If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
 digitally from a stereo?=20

 If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
 stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
 computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
 is good value for its price?=20

 Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
 worst. Why?=20

 - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20

 - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20

 - recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20

 Thanks a lot !=20

 Cedric

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