[MBZ] Radio Daze

[frederick w moir]

Hi, All.
	 I offered a paper engine manual (615,616,617.91) in decent condition as a 
swap for a working Grand Prix radio, cosmetics not too important and 
received an offer of a three way swap, alas no progress. I've tried to buy 
one or two Beckers from Ebay, but after reaching my max bid there are still 
people who have so much ego invested that they must have it, if only to 
deny it to someone else. ( or so it appears to me ). Maybe there are still 
people who pay retail?
Anywho, If you want the aforementioned manual and can lay your hands on a 
working Becker GP radio (754) send me note. ( C would be good, Ha! )

TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
The guy with the diesel high water(?) mark!

Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Marshall Booth]

OK Don wrote:

The ACC fired right up this morning (80+) - and worked all the way to
work. This evening, (98F), I could feel the compressor running, and
feel cool air coming from the appropriate vents, at 70 MPH with the
windows cracked, but the fan didn't come on for the first 10 miles or
so. Then it suddenly turned on. I didn't loose cooling at all.

So - I have sporatic random failures of different parts of the system.
I did re-solder all the joints in the push button unit last summer,
but I'm not discounting failure in it.

Is the pushbutton unit, the control unit, or something else the most
likely suspect???


The monovalve has NOTHING to do with the fan. If the engine temp sensor 
or the pushbutton control circuitry that controls when the fan can run 
(after the engine warms up a little) is operating erratically, you COULD 
have the problem you describe. Try punching the defrost button and then 
go back to the setting you want ands see if that h=gets the fan to run.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

[OK Don]

Seems to be an epidemic -- 

On 6/29/05, Peter Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NOt a good day for us today,  My car defaulted to "Full Heat" mode on
> the way home from work.  I assume this is the infamous mono-valve??
> 
> Where is it?
> 
> I leave on vacation Friday, will have to take alternate vehicle.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Peter T. Arnold
> Windsor, Connecticut
> U.S.A.
> 
> 1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 225 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
> 
> 1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 185 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
> 
> 2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
> 
> 1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
> 
> None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
> 

-- 
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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[OK Don]

No, the difference is where they want to re-distribute the wealth - to
the "entitled poor" or the "entitled rich".
I don't see how we can live without government, but it's also getting
harder to see how we can live with it.


> Both "sides" of the
> Republicrat spectrum want enhanced powers for "civil servants", the only
> real arguement is over which of them get to "serve" us by taking our money.
> 
> What are you? Take the quiz:
> http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
> 


-- 
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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[OK Don]

The ACC fired right up this morning (80+) - and worked all the way to
work. This evening, (98F), I could feel the compressor running, and
feel cool air coming from the appropriate vents, at 70 MPH with the
windows cracked, but the fan didn't come on for the first 10 miles or
so. Then it suddenly turned on. I didn't loose cooling at all.

So - I have sporatic random failures of different parts of the system.
I did re-solder all the joints in the push button unit last summer,
but I'm not discounting failure in it.

Is the pushbutton unit, the control unit, or something else the most
likely suspect???


On 6/29/05, Richard Hattaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From the quick and easy test desk:

> 
> As additional information, if you really want to see how it works (
> what ham doesn't ) then get an LED with resistor that will illuminate
> when 12 V is applied.  Tie wrap it to the passenger windshield wiper
> and hook it across the monovalve coil.  Leave enough slack for the
> wiper to operate, and pass the wire under the trailing edge of the hood
> to the Monovalve.  You can observe the Pulse Width Modulation system
> used to control your cabin temperature.  Kinda fun in the fall, winter
> and spring especially.. watching the system correct for the proper
> temperature.  In the summer it pretty much just stays on all the time.
> 
> Richard
> Salisbury NC
> K4PKV

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pressure question

[Marshall Booth]

One of the points I've finally gotten MY head around is that 0.3 bar at 
idle and 3 Bar at 3000 rpm and above are MINIMUM specs that will assure 
acceptable minimal or no engine wear (with approved oil). Those numbers 
are NOT "normal" pressure, but the lower and upper limits of adequate. 
Normally pressure will usually approach 3 bar at between 1200-1500 rpm, 
at rpm much above 3500 rpm the pressure relief will open holding the max 
at ~5.8 bar and hot idle will usually run between 1-2 bar, but these 
numbers are highly variable and not just oil type (full synthetics will 
have lower cold and higher hot oil pressure than an equivalently rated 
hydrocracked or dino oil) and viscosity but other factors (e.g. precise 
idle speed, soot load, oil filter cover stem "O" ring condition, etc.) 
influence these numbers so making meaningful comparisons except at the 
extremes is difficult.


Marshall
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RE: [MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage

[Tom Hargrave]

Ken,
 
This is the wrong place for political opinions. But since you fired
first, here's my response to one of my Son's emails
 
Joey,
 
Yes, I voted for this guy and I support his decision.
 
 
Let me explain why:
 
 
In all recent wars, the occupational forces had to stay for years to
turn the country around.
 
After WW2, it took 10 years to turn Germany into a well behaved neighbor
country. The first 2 years were filled with insurgents, not unlike
what's going on in Iraq. They didn't car bomb but they did fight and
they did kill Americans. Communists were very active in Germany, so were
Russian spies & activists and thanks mostly to the US, neither took
control of the country.
 
After WW2, it also took 10 years to turn Japan into a well behaved
neighbor country. They didn't fight back like the Germans, only because
the occupation forces were smart enough to keep the Japanese Emperor
"under their thumb".
 
Korea is another story. The North stays North only because we are there!
 
And don't even ask me about Vietnam. We were winning until Congress cut
funding & gave the war away!
 
Also, look at the first Gulf war - we stopped short of a full invasion.
And look what happened 10 years later. You were there. What keeps
another "Sadam" from rising to power if we leave now? 
 
 
So, I ask you:
 
What would have happened if this country had pulled out of Germany and
Japan 2 years after the WW2 had ended?
 
What would have happened if this country had pulled out of Korea 2 years
after the cease fire was signed
 
 
I'll tell you what would have happened. We would be living in a very
different world today!
 
 
Why would we expect anything different in Iraq?
 
What would happen in Iraq if we left this year? Next year? The following
year?
 
Our job is to put a Democratic government and a Capitalist economy in
place in Iraq. This process will take 5 years, minimum.
 
 
The real issue is that main stream media is influencing public opinion.
You and I both know that they don't report the whole story.
 
 
Dad
 
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Hargrave LCpl Joseph B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:26 PM
To: Tom Hargrave (E-mail)
Subject: 
 
FORT BRAGG, N.C. - President Bush on Tuesday rejected calls for a
timetable
for withdrawal from Iraq or sending more troops and acknowledged that
some
Americans are questioning the war's painful costs. "Is the sacrifice
worth
it? It is worth it," Bush told a nation increasingly doubtful about the
toll
of the 27-month-old war. Bush spoke in an evening address from an Army
base
that has 9,300 troops in Iraq. 
 
 
and you voted for this guy
 
 
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage 
 
That's an old gimmick. If you say something often enough then someone
will start to believe it. Nobody likes Bush. Yet, he gets elected.
Nobody likes his policies, yet we benefit and elect more Republicans. If
the Dems keep saying it, maybe it will become "common" knowledge, just
like him not showing up for National Guard duty, and not getting good
grades in college. Eventually the truth leaks out. 
 
Ken
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2005 7:27:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's interesting how both the far left *and* the far right are finding
> they have a dislike for the Bush administration in common.

Re: [MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

[JJJ]

easy on a SDL...do it

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Christopher McCann]

My experience...mostly following Marshall's advice:

I bought a 300SD last September that had been driven
with a light foot for 19 years. Had 188K when I bought
it. Now has 206K. Mostly highway miles. Diesel Purged
a couple times, drove/drive it hard/italian tune ups
on the open road. First valve adjust (when I just got
it) showed how HORRIBLE the carbonization was. Had the
valves adjusted recently and injectors replaced and
the engine was pronounced "very clean". Used Diesel
Hi-Test for a while too (expensive). RUNS SO MUCH
BETTER NOW! Also added the BERU new glow plugs the do
pre-glow, starting-glow and post-glow and those also
are wonderful and I think the post glow keeps soot
down and is a tiny help in the battle against
carbonization.

Simply, I made excuses for alot of long road trips.

Kept car in 3rd when around town 45 mph and
lower...saves the tranny a bit too. Low RPM city miles
are BAD for coking.

Christopher



--- kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I thought Diesel Purge could clear up the carbon
> buildup?
> 
> It can clean up injector nozzles pretty well, but
> I'm not sure about carbon 
> that's built up over time.  Marshall once said that
> it could take thousands 
> of miles of hard driving and long highway runs to
> clean up an engine in a 
> car  driven with a light foot mostly in the city.
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
> 
> 1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
> 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
> 1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher 
> 
> 
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-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"

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[MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage

[Bucks2]

That's an old gimmick. If you say something often enough then someone will 
start to believe it. Nobody likes Bush. Yet, he gets elected. Nobody likes his 
policies, yet we benefit and elect more Republicans. If the Dems keep saying 
it, maybe it will become "common" knowledge, just like him not showing up for 
National Guard duty, and not getting good grades in college. Eventually the 
truth leaks out. 

Ken


In a message dated 6/29/2005 7:27:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's interesting how both the far left *and* the far right are finding
> they have a dislike for the Bush administration in common.

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hey Andy,

I think you take the record for number of comments/replies within a 
couple of minute/hours..


Take care and don't run away..  We still like you!  :>)

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ

On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, at 11:52  AM, Andrew Cunningham wrote:


Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.

Andy

 

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[JJJ]

that tranny still workin'?...maybe it likes the warm weather

Re: [MBZ] RE: OM603 oil pressure question

[Marshall Booth]

Dennis Perkins wrote:

Marshall,

If my memory is correct most MB diesels idle at about 3 bar (on the 
gauge). This equates to 43+ psi.  An idling engine really only needs 
less than 10 psi to get the oil around at idle.  0.3 bar is about 4 psi 
and wouldn't even measure on the gauge.  Are you saying that the gauge 
can read actually read less than 1 bar and still be in the normal range 
at Idle?


Mercedes engine require about 4 psi at idle to provide sufficient 
protection. The purpose of the oil pressure gauge is to insure that oil 
pressure is sufficient so it is designed to accurately read the range 
that must be monitored. So the oil pressure MUST be above ~0.3 bar 
(about 1/3rd of the way between the lowest and the next mark) at hot 
idle and above 3 bar (the top mark) at 3000 rpm for the engine to be 
protected using approved oil. The gauge will read those pressures with 
resonable accuracy. Mercedes engines, when started cold will display 
more than 3 bar oil pressure but this will drop as the engine 
temperature rises. Most engines in good operating condition will display 
a hot idle pressure of between 1-2 bar (all of mine do) - that's 
"normal," but it can be considerably lower and still be safe. Once the 
engine accelerates much above idle, MOST diesels will peg the gauge at 3 
bar. While most will reach 3 bar by 1200-1500 rpm there is NO danger as 
long as oil pressure rises linearly to 3+ bar by 3000 rpm.


The older Bourdon (direct reading) gauges usually remained pretty 
accurate for their life (unless they started to leak). The electric 
gauges (introduced in various models during the early/mid '80s) 
sometimes read erroneously (often perpetually low or high depending on 
what's failed) but usually when they vary, they are working as they should.


Marshall
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RE: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Harry M.]

neons and spinners.. hell, go all the way lower it too


"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Don't forget the neon lights under the chassis.
>
>Thanks,
>Tom Hargrave
>256-656-1924
>www.kegkits.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry " M.)"
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:31 PM
>To: Mercedes mailing list
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack
>
>How about pearl coat ? My Passat is what they call black magic pearl,
>its black in the shade but turns a dark blue in the sunlight. Always
>thought the pearl coats were nice, a bit expensive though
>
>
>Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>You can buy that stuff that changes colors as you walk around it,
>>purple, green, reddish, blueish.  That would be just the thing if you
>>can't decide.  Not sure how the neon would affect it.  Don't forget the
>
>>"R" stickers all over, big one in the rear window.
>>
>>--R
>>
>>
>>Andrew Cunningham wrote:
>>
>>>Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
It would look like a june bug.

--R

Alan Duff wrote:

    

>Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
>tires and some of those underneath neon lights.
>
>Alan Duff
>Knoxville, TN
>
>- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
>thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
>green.  That or purple.
>
>Andy
>
>      
>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Harry M.]

They were Mazda-Speed aftermarket parts. The figures were from their tests, 
although I had it dynoed and the results were 7-9 HP from the intake and 12 
from the exhaust.


TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The ram-air WS6 Firebird only has 15-hp more than the non-ram-air
>version according to GM.
>
>Tim
>1982 300TD Moby
>
>On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added
>> > a extra 20hp at the rear wheels.
>>
>> Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just "seat of the pants"?
>> In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really
>> restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp.  Often it
>> was less than the variation between runs.  If you've really gained 20
>> hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[David Brodbeck]

Jeff Zedic wrote:
Excuse me but am I the only one that thinks this is a perfect situation 
for a nice set of spinner wheel covers?


 You know they can REALLY set of a nice paint job!


Don't forget to replace the windshield washer jets with blue LEDs.

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Chris Granju]

I don't knowif the asian cars all have the "R" and the random japanese
lettering, should you put someting with using an Ü. Maybe a "Type D"
(for diesel, of course) - and "Über Löw" written across the windshield.

at the F1 race (or, was it not a race???) a couple weeks ago, there was a
guy driving a Ferrari around that was painted with that paint you're talking
about.not the usual canvas for that kind of spray-on coloring.

-c granju
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack


> You can buy that stuff that changes colors as you walk around it,
> purple, green, reddish, blueish.  That would be just the thing if you
> can't decide.  Not sure how the neon would affect it.  Don't forget the
> "R" stickers all over, big one in the rear window.
>
> --R
>
>
> Andrew Cunningham wrote:
>
> >Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It would look like a june bug.
> >>
> >>--R
> >>
> >>Alan Duff wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
> >>>tires and some of those underneath neon lights.
> >>>
> >>>Alan Duff
> >>>Knoxville, TN
> >>>
> >>>- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
> >>>thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
> >>>green.  That or purple.
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

[David Bruckmann]

Fear not! Changing the monovalve is about a 5 minute operation, at 
least on a W123. Not sure if the SDL is much less accessible. It 
would certainly be worth taking a look, rather than condemning 
yourself to an entire holiday in the PT!


D.


Peter Arnold wrote:


NOt a good day for us today,  My car defaulted to "Full Heat" mode on
the way home from work.  I assume this is the infamous mono-valve??

Where is it?

I leave on vacation Friday, will have to take alternate vehicle.

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 225 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 185 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Jeff Zedic]

Excuse me but am I the only one that thinks this is a perfect situation 
for a nice set of spinner wheel covers?


 You know they can REALLY set of a nice paint job!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Harry M.]

It was split, I got roughly 7-9 hp with the intake and the rest with the 
exhaust. The funny thing about the smaller engines is when you allow them to 
breath better they are capable of making some serious horsepower. The Ram Air 
Firebird's ratings were estimated, GM didn't really do testing and according 
the track numbers no time was gained in accelleration. 


TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The ram-air WS6 Firebird only has 15-hp more than the non-ram-air
>version according to GM.
>
>Tim
>1982 300TD Moby
>
>On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added
>> > a extra 20hp at the rear wheels.
>>
>> Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just "seat of the pants"?
>> In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really
>> restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp.  Often it
>> was less than the variation between runs.  If you've really gained 20
>> hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust.
>
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RE: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Tom Hargrave]

Don't forget the neon lights under the chassis.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry " M.)"
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

How about pearl coat ? My Passat is what they call black magic pearl,
its black in the shade but turns a dark blue in the sunlight. Always
thought the pearl coats were nice, a bit expensive though


Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>You can buy that stuff that changes colors as you walk around it, 
>purple, green, reddish, blueish.  That would be just the thing if you 
>can't decide.  Not sure how the neon would affect it.  Don't forget the

>"R" stickers all over, big one in the rear window.
>
>--R
>
>
>Andrew Cunningham wrote:
>
>>Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>It would look like a june bug.
>>>
>>>--R
>>>
>>>Alan Duff wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
tires and some of those underneath neon lights.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
green.  That or purple.

Andy

      

>>  
>>
>
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RE: [MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

[Tom Hargrave]

Yep, probably the mono valve.

It's directly in front of the passenger between the firewall and the
sound deadener panel.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

NOt a good day for us today,  My car defaulted to "Full Heat" mode on
the way home from work.  I assume this is the infamous mono-valve??

Where is it?

I leave on vacation Friday, will have to take alternate vehicle.


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Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 225 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 185 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Harry M.]

How about pearl coat ? My Passat is what they call black magic pearl, its black 
in the shade but turns a dark blue in the sunlight. Always thought the pearl 
coats were nice, a bit expensive though


Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>You can buy that stuff that changes colors as you walk around it, 
>purple, green, reddish, blueish.  That would be just the thing if you 
>can't decide.  Not sure how the neon would affect it.  Don't forget the 
>"R" stickers all over, big one in the rear window.
>
>--R
>
>
>Andrew Cunningham wrote:
>
>>Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>It would look like a june bug.
>>>
>>>--R
>>>
>>>Alan Duff wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
tires and some of those underneath neon lights.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
green.  That or purple.

Andy

      

>>  
>>
>
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[MBZ] W-126 A/C grief

[Peter Arnold]

NOt a good day for us today,  My car defaulted to "Full Heat" mode on
the way home from work.  I assume this is the infamous mono-valve??

Where is it?

I leave on vacation Friday, will have to take alternate vehicle.


--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 225 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 185 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Rich Thomas]

You can buy that stuff that changes colors as you walk around it, 
purple, green, reddish, blueish.  That would be just the thing if you 
can't decide.  Not sure how the neon would affect it.  Don't forget the 
"R" stickers all over, big one in the rear window.


--R


Andrew Cunningham wrote:


Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.

Andy



On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


It would look like a june bug.

--R

Alan Duff wrote:

   


Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
tires and some of those underneath neon lights.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
green.  That or purple.

Andy

 

 

Re: [MBZ] RE: OM603 oil pressure question

[David Brodbeck]

Allan Streib wrote:
No, my oil pressure gauge reads 3 bar at the top.  It idles between 1 
and 2 bar, closer to 2 with 15w50 oil, a bit lower with 5w40.


I've noticed that idle speed also makes a big difference in oil 
pressure.  Even very slight speed changes that aren't very noticable on 
the tach make noticable differences in hot idle oil pressure.  Mine 
climbs from 1.5 bar to 2 bar when I shift from Drive to Neutral, for 
example.

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Chuck Landenberger]

Andy,

DO IT!..  Then you could put it out on eBay as "One of a 
Kind"..  ;>/..  hehe  Just kidding!


Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD w/a genteel anthracite/clear coat that speaks for itself
..
On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, at 11:52  AM, Andrew Cunningham wrote:


Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.

Andy
 

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Mitch Haley]

B Dike wrote:
> 
> Mitch,
> 
> The gas engine may well be more efficient at full
> throttle, but that efficiency is offset to some degree
> by compression stroke power loss which increases as
> intake vacuum decreases. 

N! Vacuum is the enemy of efficiency. On a gas engine
with constant compression ratio, the energy consumed in
compressing the intake charge is a relatively constant
fraction of the energy harnessed in the combustion phase.
If what you are saying were true, you could increase
efficiency by adding an extra head gasket and decreasing
the compression ratio. The opposite is true, high compression
ratio leads to higher efficiency, until you reach the point
where detonation becomes a factor.

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[BenzBarn]

It's probably not true though unless there's actual slippage when the trans
shifts.
Shift quality is a mechanical process relating to vacuum on the modulator
valve and RPM.  Firm shifting is required under WOT or the trans would burn
up over time. Soft shifts are normal under light throttle or when you lift
off under hard acceleration. These are normal functions of a properly
working trans. Adjusting shift quality until you have firm shifts is OK but
not to the point of snapping your head off.  Normal maintenance probably has
more to do with longevity than does driving style.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[Mitch Haley]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> 
> When I hear the term far-right, I immediately think of the
> religious-right and forget all about Libertarians. I guess I don't see
> them as large a political force, but I could be wrong.

Nope, we don't have much political power, as most of our voters vote
Republican in national elections. But I don't think of myself as right or left, 
I'm anti-government and especially anti-politician. Both "sides" of the 
Republicrat spectrum want enhanced powers for "civil servants", the only
real arguement is over which of them get to "serve" us by taking our money. 

What are you? Take the quiz:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[kevin kraly]

I thought Diesel Purge could clear up the carbon
buildup?

It can clean up injector nozzles pretty well, but I'm not sure about carbon 
that's built up over time.  Marshall once said that it could take thousands 
of miles of hard driving and long highway runs to clean up an engine in a 
car  driven with a light foot mostly in the city.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher 

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[kevin kraly]

I'm convinced accellerating hard is actually easier on the tranny in my
300D Turbo.  When I accellerate moderately, it tends to flare or hang
during shifts.  When I accellerate hard, it shifts firmly and crisply.

David,
This is my theory as well.  Less slippage should mean longer life as does 
less carbon in the engine, so keep on driving hard!


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher 

Re: [MBZ] RE: OM603 oil pressure question

[Allan Streib]

No, my oil pressure gauge reads 3 bar at the top.  It idles between 1 
and 2 bar, closer to 2 with 15w50 oil, a bit lower with 5w40.


0.3 bar would be quite low, but probably would be detectable on the 
gauge (assuming it registers accurately across the entire range).


I've seen gauges in PSI, instead of 1, 2, 3 bar they read 15, 30, 45 
PSI.  My W110 has PSI graduations.


Allan
--
1966 230
1983 300D


Dennis Perkins wrote:


Marshall,

If my memory is correct most MB diesels idle at about 3 bar (on the 
gauge). This equates to 43+ psi.  An idling engine really only needs 
less than 10 psi to get the oil around at idle.  0.3 bar is about 4 
psi and wouldn't even measure on the gauge.  Are you saying that the 
gauge can read actually read less than 1 bar and still be in the 
normal range at Idle?


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD

Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pressure question




There are NO published specs I've ever seen beyond the "must be greater
than 0.3 bar at idle and at least 3 bar at 3000 rpm." Those numbers are
low (but safe). The most common failing is the is of the "O" rings on
the stem. They will result in low idle pressures (but usually still
above the min) and some lifter clatter. If the grommet inside the oil
filter is disp[laced when the filter is installed, pressure will read
even lower than if the "O" rings are bad. Most (75+%) of the pressure
problems I've seen reported are caused by one of those being the
problems. If the relief valves (they open in the 5-6 bar range) fail
open, pressure will not peg  when it should at engine speeds in the
2500-3000 rpm range. There's one in the filter housing (but I've never
hear of it failing) and one at the oil pump (I know of half a dozen or
more of them failing - all on older OM61x or OM621 engines). Finally the
pump CAN fail and then usually both hot idle pressure AND mid rang rmp
pressure are both low or nil.

Marshall





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Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[Zeitgeist]

So, you replace the guts inside the fuel thermostat housing then?  I
thought the whole thing was replaced as a unit.

On 6/29/05, brian toscano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fuel thermostat fits inside the canister that bolts near the motor
> mount.  I'm not talking about the head.

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'84 300D (201k)
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Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Andrew Cunningham]

Hmm, maybe...  Never though about iridescent.

Andy



On 6/29/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would look like a june bug.
> 
> --R
> 
> Alan Duff wrote:
> 
> > Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big
> > tires and some of those underneath neon lights.
> >
> > Alan Duff
> > Knoxville, TN
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
> > thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
> > green.  That or purple.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[brian toscano]

The fuel thermostat fits inside the canister that bolts near the motor
mount.  I'm not talking about the head.

Brian


On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see the allen bolts.  I'll photograph the procedure for future list
> reference.
> Thanks!
> John
> - Original Message -
> From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5
> 
> 
> I think Brian's referring to the coolant loop, where it enters the
> head.  Your fuel thermostat should remove quite easily, since it's
> just held onto the block by two 5mm allen-head bolts, and of course
> the fuel and coolant lines themselves.  A ball-head type allen wrench
> will assist in the removal process.  Disconnecting the hoses will
> probably be the toughest part of the project.
> 
> On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The fuel thermostat has a clip?
> 
> Casey
> Biodiesel:
> '87 300TD intercooler (205k)
> '84 300D (201k)
> Gasser:
> '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
> Olympia, WA
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[MBZ] Re: Theory vs. Praactice

[Dennis Perkins]

Kevin

Two areas are hard on a transmission.  Long hard pulls with a large load on 
a transmission and at it's shift points as the clutches engage.  The large 
load issue probably can't be reasonably addressed.  As far as shifting just 
let off a little as you come to the shift points.  The other thing is to 
change you transmission oil and filter with something like Mobile 1 at the 
prescribed times.  If you do this I would guess that the transmission should 
last about as long as the engine.


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD

What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?

That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car is
pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can kill an
engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when accelerating
hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want to replace, a
carboned-up engine or a transmission.

Anyone care to jump in on this one?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher

Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[John Peterson]

I see the allen bolts.  I'll photograph the procedure for future list 
reference.

Thanks!
John
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From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5


I think Brian's referring to the coolant loop, where it enters the
head.  Your fuel thermostat should remove quite easily, since it's
just held onto the block by two 5mm allen-head bolts, and of course
the fuel and coolant lines themselves.  A ball-head type allen wrench
will assist in the removal process.  Disconnecting the hoses will
probably be the toughest part of the project.

On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The fuel thermostat has a clip?


Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (205k)
'84 300D (201k)
Gasser:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

Not nessasarly true about blowing up. MY 1982 380SEL 487,000 miles on the 
orginal tranny. Filter always changed at roughly 50-60,000 miles.
Don
 On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> David Johnson wrote:
> > What does running hard like this mean to the
> > transmission? Would that wear down the transmission
> > faster? If that's the case, I'd rather run the engine
> > at lower efficiency than having to shell out 2K for a
> > new trannny.
> 
> I'm convinced accellerating hard is actually easier on the tranny in my
> 300D Turbo. When I accellerate moderately, it tends to flare or hang
> during shifts. When I accellerate hard, it shifts firmly and crisply.
> A firm shift *has* to be easier on the internal clutches and bands.
> 
> Besides, it's a Mercedes automatic. It'll blow up no matter what you
> do. ;) The one in my car has already had one rebuild, according to the
> previous owner.
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Rich Thomas]

It would look like a june bug.

--R

Alan Duff wrote:

Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big 
tires and some of those underneath neon lights.


Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was 
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing 
green.  That or purple.


Andy


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[MBZ] RE: OM603 oil pressure question

[Dennis Perkins]

Marshall,

If my memory is correct most MB diesels idle at about 3 bar (on the gauge). 
This equates to 43+ psi.  An idling engine really only needs less than 10 
psi to get the oil around at idle.  0.3 bar is about 4 psi and wouldn't even 
measure on the gauge.  Are you saying that the gauge can read actually read 
less than 1 bar and still be in the normal range at Idle?


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD

Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pressure question



There are NO published specs I've ever seen beyond the "must be greater
than 0.3 bar at idle and at least 3 bar at 3000 rpm." Those numbers are
low (but safe). The most common failing is the is of the "O" rings on
the stem. They will result in low idle pressures (but usually still
above the min) and some lifter clatter. If the grommet inside the oil
filter is disp[laced when the filter is installed, pressure will read
even lower than if the "O" rings are bad. Most (75+%) of the pressure
problems I've seen reported are caused by one of those being the
problems. If the relief valves (they open in the 5-6 bar range) fail
open, pressure will not peg  when it should at engine speeds in the
2500-3000 rpm range. There's one in the filter housing (but I've never
hear of it failing) and one at the oil pump (I know of half a dozen or
more of them failing - all on older OM61x or OM621 engines). Finally the
pump CAN fail and then usually both hot idle pressure AND mid rang rmp
pressure are both low or nil.

Marshall

RE: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Potter, Tom E]

Are you yanking our crank?;)

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Cunningham
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:05 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack


I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
green.  That or purple.

Andy

On 29 Jun 2005 15:18:06 -, Alan Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it is a factory color. There were some butt ugly ones during those
> years. Looks like Cyprus Green or maybe Thistle Green, the pictures are
> poor quality. I briefly had a '80 300SD in Cactus Green. Never have liked
> a green car.
> 
> Alan Duff
> Knoxville, TN
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:09:56 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> 
> > uhhh yea.  And I cant really tell for sure but it doenst look like a
> > factory color on the paint.  The pics are so bad and the car seems a
> > different color in each one.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[B Dike]

Mitch,

The gas engine may well be more efficient at full
throttle, but that efficiency is offset to some degree
by compression stroke power loss which increases as
intake vacuum decreases.   I am theorizing that the
diesel efficiency curve is steeper than the gasser
curve.

Bruce

--- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> B Dike wrote:
> > On the other hand, a
> > gasser has much less compression, and compression
> > power loss is proportional with throttle setting
> due
> > to their intake air butterfly. 
> 
> Backwards. Sucking a vacuum in the intake causes
> loss in efficiency. 
> Your gasser will see maximum horsepower-hour/btu of
> fuel when running full
> throttle at peak torque rpm. Gearing up and using
> more throttle opening
> when requiring low power increases mpg in a gas
> engine more than it does
> in a diesel.
> 
> The best reason to drive a diesel like you stole it
> is to keep it clean
> of unburned fuel residues.
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Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[Zeitgeist]

I think Brian's referring to the coolant loop, where it enters the
head.  Your fuel thermostat should remove quite easily, since it's
just held onto the block by two 5mm allen-head bolts, and of course
the fuel and coolant lines themselves.  A ball-head type allen wrench
will assist in the removal process.  Disconnecting the hoses will
probably be the toughest part of the project.

On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fuel thermostat has a clip?

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (205k) 
'84 300D (201k)
Gasser:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Alan Duff]

Why not both colors. Then you could put on a coffee can exhaust, big tires 
and some of those underneath neon lights.


Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was thinking 
about going with a dark green, some like the british racing green.  That or 
purple.


Andy

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[redghost]

Manual shifter in Gump, so first gear is going to toast before anything 
else.  Old car, going to need a tranny rebuild some day


On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 11:31 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?

That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car 
is pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can 
kill an engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when 
accelerating hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want 
to replace, a carboned-up engine or a transmission.


Anyone care to jump in on this one?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher


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Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[John Peterson]

The fuel thermostat has a clip?
tnx
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From: "brian toscano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5


There is a little clip on the end, side nearest the radiator.  Very
easy to change.  If you plan to service it, I suggest a new O-ring as
it may leak if disturbed.

Brian


On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I ordered a fuel thermostat and muffler for the 1990 300D (hoping my wife
will like the car with less noise!) and the muffler looks like the easiest
thing in the world to change.  The clamps are so well built and remove so
easily.  I've never seen such quality.

Regarding the fuel thermostat, has anyone changed these?  I looked on my
service CD for info on the removal process- can't see how the thing comes
off.

Thanks Friends,


John Peterson
Kingston RI
1990, 1991 300D 2.5

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice


> you can make your own pretty easy, lots of folks have.
>
> David Brodbeck wrote:
>
>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>
>>> you need to get yours adjusted properly.
>>
>>
>> Quite possibly.  It shifts fine at light throttle and full throttle. 
>> Not
>> so hot in between.  I don't have the special gold-plated gauge to 
>> measure

>> the internal trans pressure, though, so I'm afraid to monkey with it.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] B2 Piston For Sale

[JabbaHursty]

would have done better buying it from us

gary


At 12:52 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote:
I bought a B2 Piston for an 85 300D from the local MB Stealership 
(Aristocrat Motors Kansas City, MO).  As it turns out mine was not broken 
and they will not take it back. Thus I will never buy from them again.


So I have one for sale.  It has never been out of the box. I paid $150

Make me an offer



Jason Greene

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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[David Bruckmann]

It's definitely not thistle green, which IMHO is quite possibly the 
most lovely colour MB ever used. Sort of champagne with just a tiny 
bit of green. Very subtle.


D.

On 29 Jun 2005 15:18:06 -, Alan Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I think it is a factory color. There were some butt ugly ones during those
 years. Looks like Cyprus Green or maybe Thistle Green, the pictures are
 poor quality. I briefly had a '80 300SD in Cactus Green. Never have liked
 a green car.

 Alan Duff
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Henry Kolesnik]

Here I going again, jumping to conclusions.  Got quit that.
Hank
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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice


hey hank...interesting math, but i didn't go anywhere near mexico city or 
high elevations...the cruise along the west coast of mexico (not baja) is 
essentially along the coastal lowlands...so it was mostly attitude (not 
altitude) and which music in the player that influenced speed and 
therefore mileage.




Drag (air resistance) is approx. proportional to the speed squared and
inversely proportional to air density.  Driving from Arizona to Mexico 
City
is uphill just about all the way with southern AZ at 1000' elev. and 
Mexico

City at 7300'.  You had several variables to influence your mpg, speed,
altitude, and grade.
Last spring I got 31mpg going from Albuquerque 5300' elev. to Farmington 
NM

5600' elev.  at 75+ mph with a few 7000' passes.
I've never gotten that good an mpg at lower elevations and I'm starting 
to

think I had less drag because of the thinner air due to evel. and cooler
temp.
Prior to this I thought Chevron diesel had more BTUs and I think it may. 
In

Tulsa I also experience better mpg using Phillips vs Texaco diesel.

73
Hank WD5JFR
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice


> when i drove my '86 300sdl to mexico last year (7000 miles), i mostly
> watched the mileage...if i went 75 or below, i might get 
> 27-8mpg...around
> 85mph, i might get 25mpg...when we cruised at 105 for two hours at a 
> time

> on the new toll roads (and in utah), i got 19mpg...
>
> the car gets about 25mpg around town with my foot in it...
>
> but when i came back, diesel in washington state was more than 
> high-test

> and sorta scotched any idea of diesel economy!
>
> but, if mexico don is ready for us again, i'm ready to entertain any
> mileage experiments offered for another run next winter
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[jjayj]

hey hank...interesting math, but i didn't go anywhere near mexico city or high 
elevations...the cruise along the west coast of mexico (not baja) is 
essentially along the coastal lowlands...so it was mostly attitude (not 
altitude) and which music in the player that influenced speed and therefore 
mileage.   


> Drag (air resistance) is approx. proportional to the speed squared and 
> inversely proportional to air density.  Driving from Arizona to Mexico City 
> is uphill just about all the way with southern AZ at 1000' elev. and Mexico 
> City at 7300'.  You had several variables to influence your mpg, speed, 
> altitude, and grade.
> Last spring I got 31mpg going from Albuquerque 5300' elev. to Farmington NM 
> 5600' elev.  at 75+ mph with a few 7000' passes.
> I've never gotten that good an mpg at lower elevations and I'm starting to 
> think I had less drag because of the thinner air due to evel. and cooler 
> temp.
> Prior to this I thought Chevron diesel had more BTUs and I think it may.  In 
> Tulsa I also experience better mpg using Phillips vs Texaco diesel.
> 
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
> - Original Message - 
> From: "JJJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice
> 
> 
> > when i drove my '86 300sdl to mexico last year (7000 miles), i mostly 
> > watched the mileage...if i went 75 or below, i might get 27-8mpg...around 
> > 85mph, i might get 25mpg...when we cruised at 105 for two hours at a time 
> > on the new toll roads (and in utah), i got 19mpg...
> >
> > the car gets about 25mpg around town with my foot in it...
> >
> > but when i came back, diesel in washington state was more than high-test 
> > and sorta scotched any idea of diesel economy!
> >
> > but, if mexico don is ready for us again, i'm ready to entertain any 
> > mileage experiments offered for another run next winter
> >
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[MBZ] B2 Piston For Sale

[Jason Greene]

I bought a B2 Piston for an 85 300D from the local MB Stealership 
(Aristocrat Motors Kansas City, MO).  As it turns out mine was not 
broken and they will not take it back. Thus I will never buy from them 
again.


So I have one for sale.  It has never been out of the box. I paid $150

Make me an offer



Jason Greene

Re: [MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[brian toscano]

There is a little clip on the end, side nearest the radiator.  Very
easy to change.  If you plan to service it, I suggest a new O-ring as
it may leak if disturbed.

Brian


On 6/29/05, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I ordered a fuel thermostat and muffler for the 1990 300D (hoping my wife
> will like the car with less noise!) and the muffler looks like the easiest
> thing in the world to change.  The clamps are so well built and remove so
> easily.  I've never seen such quality.
> 
> Regarding the fuel thermostat, has anyone changed these?  I looked on my
> service CD for info on the removal process- can't see how the thing comes
> off.
> 
> Thanks Friends,
> 
> 
> John Peterson
> Kingston RI
> 1990, 1991 300D 2.5
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice
> 
> 
> > you can make your own pretty easy, lots of folks have.
> >
> > David Brodbeck wrote:
> >
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >>
> >>> you need to get yours adjusted properly.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quite possibly.  It shifts fine at light throttle and full throttle. Not
> >> so hot in between.  I don't have the special gold-plated gauge to measure
> >> the internal trans pressure, though, so I'm afraid to monkey with it.
> >>
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> >  81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Andrew Cunningham]

I like green.  I have an 83 300SD that needs a paint job.  I was
thinking about going with a dark green, some like the british racing
green.  That or purple.

Andy

On 29 Jun 2005 15:18:06 -, Alan Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it is a factory color. There were some butt ugly ones during those
> years. Looks like Cyprus Green or maybe Thistle Green, the pictures are
> poor quality. I briefly had a '80 300SD in Cactus Green. Never have liked
> a green car.
> 
> Alan Duff
> Knoxville, TN
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:09:56 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> 
> > uhhh yea.  And I cant really tell for sure but it doenst look like a
> > factory color on the paint.  The pics are so bad and the car seems a
> > different color in each one.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[C8NDYJ]

OKim curious what is the auction number let me see what u r talking  about

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Christopher McCann]

I don't know exactly. I think its an idle problem. Had
a idle adjested and I guess there is some little gizmo
that adjusts the idle for things like having the A/C
on, etc...I am not sure it's working...low RPM causes
the air cleaner to shake. Fine above idle. I wedged
radiator hose between the air cleaner and valve cover
and have had no problems since. But I think I am going
to pull the hose out and replace it with rubber shock
bushings bolted into air cleaner, pushing against the
valve cover. 

Chris

--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is standard issue for the kids with their rice
> burner Hondogs.  They 
> take sewer pipe to build a tube from where they can
> fit the little filter 
> to the intake. The total filtration area is WAY less
> than the OE.  It might 
> be ok for a 4 banger, but not a 6 or 8 cyl.
> 
> The K&N  is good on a /5 BMW, where the total
> filtration area is the 
> same.  I would not put this on my MB.
> 
> The filter mounts on my 126 never bother.  What's up
> with yours?  I had to 
> weld the mount on a 85 123 300TD, but the 126 is
> solid.  I get over 100K on 
> a 126 filter.
> 
> At 12:13 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
> >Kaleb,
> >
> >We had a thread on this about 6 months ago.
> Marshall
> >said that since the engine AS IS operates with an
> >abundance of air, there is NO WAY it can increase
> >performance.
> >
> >But I have been wondering if there is anyway it
> could
> >HARM the engine. I am tired of breaking air filter
> >mounts, of making do-dads to keep the damn thing
> from
> >breaking again, etc. My concern isn't performance
> but
> >the stupidest thing ever to come out of MB: the 126
> >air cleaner mounting apparatus.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> >
> >Christopher
> >
> >
> >--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=7981938573&rd=1
> >
> >
> >
> >Christopher McCann
> >1985 300SD, 206K miles, "Wulf"
> http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
> >1976 240D, ManyK miles, "Siegfried"/AFTP:
> Alternative Fuels Test Platform
> >1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
> >Raytown, Missouri
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[MBZ] Changing fuel thermostat on a 300D 2.5

[John Peterson]

I ordered a fuel thermostat and muffler for the 1990 300D (hoping my wife 
will like the car with less noise!) and the muffler looks like the easiest 
thing in the world to change.  The clamps are so well built and remove so 
easily.  I've never seen such quality.


Regarding the fuel thermostat, has anyone changed these?  I looked on my 
service CD for info on the removal process- can't see how the thing comes 
off.


Thanks Friends,


John Peterson
Kingston RI
1990, 1991 300D 2.5

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you can make your own pretty easy, lots of folks have.

David Brodbeck wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


you need to get yours adjusted properly.



Quite possibly.  It shifts fine at light throttle and full throttle. Not 
so hot in between.  I don't have the special gold-plated gauge to measure 
the internal trans pressure, though, so I'm afraid to monkey with it.


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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Christopher McCann]

Another suggestion is to do the same thing with the
rubber "washers" from old shock absorbers

Christopher McCann

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if you want to stop them from breaking, next time
> one breaks, save it. 
> Drill a hole in the side of the air cleaner next to
> valve cover, mount 
> the broken mount to the air cleaner so the rubber is
> jammed between the 
> cleaner and valve cover, and it keeps it from
> vibrating as much and 
> makes them last longer.
> 
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> > Kaleb,
> > 
> > We had a thread on this about 6 months ago.
> Marshall
> > said that since the engine AS IS operates with an
> > abundance of air, there is NO WAY it can increase
> > performance.
> > 
> > But I have been wondering if there is anyway it
> could
> > HARM the engine. I am tired of breaking air filter
> > mounts, of making do-dads to keep the damn thing
> from
> > breaking again, etc. My concern isn't performance
> but
> > the stupidest thing ever to come out of MB: the
> 126
> > air cleaner mounting apparatus.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Christopher
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=7981938573&rd=1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Christopher McCann
> > 1985 300SD, 206K miles, "Wulf"
> http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
> > 1976 240D, ManyK miles, "Siegfried"/AFTP:
> Alternative Fuels Test Platform
> > 1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
> > Raytown, Missouri
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you can make your own pretty easy, lots of folks have.

David Brodbeck wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


you need to get yours adjusted properly.



Quite possibly.  It shifts fine at light throttle and full throttle. Not 
so hot in between.  I don't have the special gold-plated gauge to 
measure the internal trans pressure, though, so I'm afraid to monkey 
with it.


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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[David Brodbeck]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

you need to get yours adjusted properly.


Quite possibly.  It shifts fine at light throttle and full throttle. 
Not so hot in between.  I don't have the special gold-plated gauge to 
measure the internal trans pressure, though, so I'm afraid to monkey 
with it.

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Alan Duff]

I think it is a factory color. There were some butt ugly ones during those 
years. Looks like Cyprus Green or maybe Thistle Green, the pictures are 
poor quality. I briefly had a '80 300SD in Cactus Green. Never have liked 
a green car.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:09:56 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> uhhh yea.  And I cant really tell for sure but it doenst look like a 
> factory color on the paint.  The pics are so bad and the car seems a 
> different color in each one.
> 
>

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you need to get yours adjusted properly.

David Brodbeck wrote:


David Johnson wrote:


What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?  If that's the case, I'd rather run the engine
at lower efficiency than having to shell out 2K for a
new trannny.



I'm convinced accellerating hard is actually easier on the tranny in my 
300D Turbo.  When I accellerate moderately, it tends to flare or hang 
during shifts.  When I accellerate hard, it shifts firmly and crisply. A 
firm shift *has* to be easier on the internal clutches and bands.


Besides, it's a Mercedes automatic.  It'll blow up no matter what you 
do. ;)  The one in my car has already had one rebuild, according to the 
previous owner.


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Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

highway speed, idling it will raise to about 50 to 55, but still is 
plenty cool.


Henry Kolesnik wrote:


Idling or going at hiway speed?
Hank
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You know, my SDL will blow 42-45 vent temp on 90+ degree days with 
134, Im amazed.


Loren Faeth wrote:

try turning the temp all the way cold while driving down the 
highway.  R134 ain't worth crap unless you are moving at highway 
speeds.  Mine will occasionally lose its mind and blow hot, but if I 
turn the dial to more blue, it will blow cold again.   If it blows 
hot with the dial turned all the way down, and blows hot with the 
Economy push button down, then i'd guess you need a monvalve kit.



At 09:24 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:


The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even at 100F today.
This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to 85F, the nice cool
breeze from the climate control system suddenly turned very hot. I'm
guessing that this is the primary symptom of a faulty mono valve???
The car was converted to R134a by the PO, so I've been concerned that
the system might blow up with the black goo at any time, but then
again, this is the second summer since I bought it.

So, do I just order the mono valve repair kit, or do the trouble
shooting routine?

TIA,
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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im sure they have been proven to increase horsepower no a cheap 
ricburner type gas car, but not on a diesel.


Harry  M. wrote:


Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow to the 
engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase power. I found a 
setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added a extra 20hp at the rear 
wheels. I guess a lot of kids out there with little money to spend have the 
home made setups that look like a plumbing nightmare, but they work



Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is standard issue for the kids with their rice burner Hondogs.  They 
take sewer pipe to build a tube from where they can fit the little filter 
to the intake. The total filtration area is WAY less than the OE.  It might 
be ok for a 4 banger, but not a 6 or 8 cyl.


The K&N  is good on a /5 BMW, where the total filtration area is the 
same.  I would not put this on my MB.


The filter mounts on my 126 never bother.  What's up with yours?  I had to 
weld the mount on a 85 123 300TD, but the 126 is solid.  I get over 100K on 
a 126 filter.


At 12:13 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:


Kaleb,

We had a thread on this about 6 months ago. Marshall
said that since the engine AS IS operates with an
abundance of air, there is NO WAY it can increase
performance.

But I have been wondering if there is anyway it could
HARM the engine. I am tired of breaking air filter
mounts, of making do-dads to keep the damn thing from
breaking again, etc. My concern isn't performance but
the stupidest thing ever to come out of MB: the 126
air cleaner mounting apparatus.

Thoughts?

Christopher


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Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

uhhh yea.  And I cant really tell for sure but it doenst look like a 
factory color on the paint.  The pics are so bad and the car seems a 
different color in each one.


Desert Rat wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

a crisp shifting tranny will last much longer than a soft shifting one.

kevin kraly wrote:


What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?

That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car is 
pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can kill an 
engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when 
accelerating hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want to 
replace, a carboned-up engine or a transmission.


Anyone care to jump in on this one?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
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Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you talking about the push button unit or the control unit behind the 
glove box?


David Johnson wrote:


--- OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even
at 100F today.
This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to
85F, the nice cool
breeze from the climate control system suddenly
turned very hot. 


I've had the same problem twice within 4-5 months . 
The culprit was the monovalve the first time, and the
ACC control unit the second time. 
David

83 300DT



 
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Chuck Landenberger]

Anyone care to jump in on this one?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon


Kevin and all.
About my experience of running hard and transmission wear:
For 5-6 years, I autocrossed w/my '80 300SD in the GWS series in the DC 
area.  The series runs for 8 months, once a month.  That's over 40 
times out, each w/about 6-8 runs thru the course.  So the total is 
between 200-300 runs.
My tactic at the start line was - In S gear, run revs up to about 2200 
rpms while holding the brake on.  Then dump the brake.  Floor the 
accelerator pedal.  The turbo is spooled up so there is little lag.  
Truly, it is driving like you stole it around a 60 sec. course.  All 
the while being careful to not hit any course cones.   I also 
disconnected the vacuum line to the shift modulator, giving me VERY 
crisp gear changes.  Did use up a lot of BFG R-1 race tires.


Even given that kind of exercise, the trans is still in the car and 
never has had a problem of any kind.  I do change trans fluid/filter 
about every 10kmiles.  She still gets off the line w/lots of vigor.


In September, "we" will be at the GWS Tri-O-Rama doing time trials, 
autocross and acceleration runs.


Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 11:31  PM, kevin kraly wrote:


What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?

That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car 
is pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can 
kill an engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when 
accelerating hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want 
to replace, a carboned-up engine or a transmission.



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[MBZ] Biodiesel on NPR this morning

[Zeitgeist]

My buddy Mike Pelly was interviewed on NPR this morning regarding his
experiences with biodiesel: 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4722639
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Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (205k) 
'84 300D (201k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[David Brodbeck]

Craig McCluskey wrote:

If the wastegate of the turbo opens, it really is a question of turbo
versus non-turbo. With the wastegate open, reducing the intake restriction
will only mean that the wastegate opens further.


Hmm.  Good point.  I hadn't thought about that.  And at highway speeds, 
these cars run with the wastegate open almost all the time, don't they?


I suppose I could argue that the more the wastegate opens, the lower the 
exhaust back pressure will be and the more efficiently the engine will 
"breathe," but that's got to be a pretty minor effect.

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:38:58 -0400 David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > I think the point was that it's useless on a turbocharged engine
> > because you're already getting maximum airflow (and that stock air
> > cleaner ain't small either).
> 
> It's not a question of turbo vs. non-turbo.  It's strictly a question of
> how restrictive the air cleaner is at the flow rate the engine needs.

If the wastegate of the turbo opens, it really is a question of turbo
versus non-turbo. With the wastegate open, reducing the intake restriction
will only mean that the wastegate opens further.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Henry Kolesnik]

Drag (air resistance) is approx. proportional to the speed squared and 
inversely proportional to air density.  Driving from Arizona to Mexico City 
is uphill just about all the way with southern AZ at 1000' elev. and Mexico 
City at 7300'.  You had several variables to influence your mpg, speed, 
altitude, and grade.
Last spring I got 31mpg going from Albuquerque 5300' elev. to Farmington NM 
5600' elev.  at 75+ mph with a few 7000' passes.
I've never gotten that good an mpg at lower elevations and I'm starting to 
think I had less drag because of the thinner air due to evel. and cooler 
temp.
Prior to this I thought Chevron diesel had more BTUs and I think it may.  In 
Tulsa I also experience better mpg using Phillips vs Texaco diesel.


73
Hank WD5JFR
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when i drove my '86 300sdl to mexico last year (7000 miles), i mostly 
watched the mileage...if i went 75 or below, i might get 27-8mpg...around 
85mph, i might get 25mpg...when we cruised at 105 for two hours at a time 
on the new toll roads (and in utah), i got 19mpg...


the car gets about 25mpg around town with my foot in it...

but when i came back, diesel in washington state was more than high-test 
and sorta scotched any idea of diesel economy!


but, if mexico don is ready for us again, i'm ready to entertain any 
mileage experiments offered for another run next winter


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[TimothyPilgrim]

When I hear the term far-right, I immediately think of the
religious-right and forget all about Libertarians. I guess I don't see
them as large a political force, but I could be wrong.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me.
> 
> The smaller government, libertarian right does.  The religious right
> likes him, though.
> 
> The Republican party is not as monolithic as you may have been led to
> believe.
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[David Brodbeck]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me.


The smaller government, libertarian right does.  The religious right 
likes him, though.


The Republican party is not as monolithic as you may have been led to 
believe.

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[David Brodbeck]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

I think the point was that it's useless on a turbocharged engine
because you're already getting maximum airflow (and that stock air
cleaner ain't small either).


It's not a question of turbo vs. non-turbo.  It's strictly a question of 
how restrictive the air cleaner is at the flow rate the engine needs. 
Has anyone hooked a manometer up to their stock air cleaner and measured 
the pressure drop?  If you're going to try to improve things, you need 
to know your starting point.  Otherwise you're just groping in the dark. 
 I'd be willing to bet money that the pressure drop of the stock 
airbox, with a clean filter, is negligable and the cone-filter intake 
we're discussing doesn't make more power, just more noise.

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[TimothyPilgrim]

The ram-air WS6 Firebird only has 15-hp more than the non-ram-air
version according to GM.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added
> > a extra 20hp at the rear wheels.
> 
> Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just "seat of the pants"?
> In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really
> restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp.  Often it
> was less than the variation between runs.  If you've really gained 20
> hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust.

[MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 1, Issue 136

[Curt Raymond]

I had similar behavior on my '96 Dodge Dakota a couple years ago when the 
sender went bad. It'll make your heart jump right up into your throat! On mine 
if I accelerated very slowly and didn't go over about 60mph it was okay as long 
as the AC was off. After a long 150 drive back from Maine sweltering in midday 
July heat I fixed it quick...

-Curt
'83 240D "Hammie" 241kmi

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:18:19 -0600
From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pressure question
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Marshall, Joe, et al:

Thanks for the quick replies. I figured the sending unit would be the 
place to
attach a manual gauge, but I thought there would be a procedure in the 
FSM with
more specs than the awfully vague TDM numbers. If my car would barely 
hit 3 bar
by 3k, I'd say the motor would be junk in short order. My car idles at 
1.75-2.0
hot and pegs almost anywhere off idle.

Symptoms were 0.5 bar indicated at idle, then increasing to 3bar as you 
drove
off, but then dropping to zero! My BIL had it checked out today, and 
got lucky.
First it was just a bad sending unit (whew!) and second the local parts 
place
(dealer?) had a new one on the shelf. It's already fixed and back on 
the road!
I was surprised myself at the quick TAT, since he just called me this 
AM asking
how to diagnose it. I was about to have them pull the filter and check 
the stuff
Marshall mentioned. This car gets M-1 or D-1, btw.

:-)

Thanks again,

Dave M.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[TimothyPilgrim]

The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's interesting how both the far left *and* the far right are finding
> they have a dislike for the Bush administration in common.

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[David Brodbeck]

Harry  M. wrote:

Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow
to the engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase
power.


What was shown in the ebay link was *not* a cold air intake.  It was 
under the hood.  A true "cold air intake" needs to draw outside air, not 
under-hood air.  An example of a *stock* cold air intake is the air 
intake on a Volvo 240.  The airbox is connected to an intake pipe that 
runs around the radiator and opens just behind the grille.




I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added
a extra 20hp at the rear wheels.


Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just "seat of the pants"? 
In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really 
restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp.  Often it 
was less than the variation between runs.  If you've really gained 20 
hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust.

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[David Brodbeck]

David Johnson wrote:

What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?  If that's the case, I'd rather run the engine
at lower efficiency than having to shell out 2K for a
new trannny.


I'm convinced accellerating hard is actually easier on the tranny in my 
300D Turbo.  When I accellerate moderately, it tends to flare or hang 
during shifts.  When I accellerate hard, it shifts firmly and crisply. 
A firm shift *has* to be easier on the internal clutches and bands.


Besides, it's a Mercedes automatic.  It'll blow up no matter what you 
do. ;)  The one in my car has already had one rebuild, according to the 
previous owner.

Re: [MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[andrew strasfogel]

"Unfortunately I was unable to obtain the records for car, so am
unable to tell what else was done, but the engine bay sparkles,
everything in sight appears new."

Yeah, right!

Plus it has a cracked dash and windshield, faded carpet and a couple
dents (at least).  Still, I have a soft spot for the teal/parchment
color combination.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[David Brodbeck]

It's interesting how both the far left *and* the far right are finding 
they have a dislike for the Bush administration in common.

Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Henry Kolesnik]

Idling or going at hiway speed?
Hank
- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???


You know, my SDL will blow 42-45 vent temp on 90+ degree days with 134, 
Im amazed.


Loren Faeth wrote:

try turning the temp all the way cold while driving down the highway.  
R134 ain't worth crap unless you are moving at highway speeds.  Mine 
will occasionally lose its mind and blow hot, but if I turn the dial to 
more blue, it will blow cold again.   If it blows hot with the dial 
turned all the way down, and blows hot with the Economy push button 
down, then i'd guess you need a monvalve kit.



At 09:24 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:


The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even at 100F today.
This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to 85F, the nice cool
breeze from the climate control system suddenly turned very hot. I'm
guessing that this is the primary symptom of a faulty mono valve???
The car was converted to R134a by the PO, so I've been concerned that
the system might blow up with the black goo at any time, but then
again, this is the second summer since I bought it.

So, do I just order the mono valve repair kit, or do the trouble
shooting routine?

TIA,
--
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Norman, OK
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'81 240D
'78 450SLC

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Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Richard Hattaway]

>From the quick and easy test desk:

Block the water line feeding the monovalve.  I use two strips of wood
and a C clamp, pinching it closed.  See if your cabin temp returns to
the pleasant cool you expect.  If so, your monovalve or control system
is at fault.  If not, you have to begin to look at your A/C system.

Then take a look at the coil and coil connection on the monovalve. It
will default in the hot mode without 12 volts on the coil, so if it is
disconnected or terminals corroded, you end up hot inside the car.

After you do these tests, you will have a much better idea of the
issues.  Neat thing is that they can all be done in 20 minutes, with
most of that time spent looking for appropriate pieces of wood and a C
clamp.  ( Autozone has a clamp for this purpose, but I am a bottom
feeder (c:  )  

As additional information, if you really want to see how it works (
what ham doesn't ) then get an LED with resistor that will illuminate
when 12 V is applied.  Tie wrap it to the passenger windshield wiper
and hook it across the monovalve coil.  Leave enough slack for the
wiper to operate, and pass the wire under the trailing edge of the hood
to the Monovalve.  You can observe the Pulse Width Modulation system
used to control your cabin temperature.  Kinda fun in the fall, winter
and spring especially.. watching the system correct for the proper
temperature.  In the summer it pretty much just stays on all the time.

Richard
Salisbury NC
K4PKV

> From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:24 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Mono valve???
> 
> 
> The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even at 100F today.
> This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to 85F, the nice
> cool
> breeze from the climate control system suddenly turned very hot. I'm
> guessing that this is the primary symptom of a faulty mono valve???
> The car was converted to R134a by the PO, so I've been concerned that
> the system might blow up with the black goo at any time, but then
> again, this is the second summer since I bought it.
> 
> So, do I just order the mono valve repair kit, or do the trouble
> shooting routine?
> 
> TIA,
> -- 
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> Norman, OK
> '87 300SDL
> '81 240D
> '78 450SLC


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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[TimothyPilgrim]

I think the point was that it's useless on a turbocharged engine
because you're already getting maximum airflow (and that stock air
cleaner ain't small either). On a non-turbo engine it certainly has an
effect, especially if combined with a ram-air system like the
Firebird's WS6 nostril package.

Too bad all those hood scoops on the nice big pickups nowadays are fake...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 6/29/05, Harry  M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow to the 
> engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase power. I found a 
> setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added a extra 20hp at the rear 
> wheels. I guess a lot of kids out there with little money to spend have the 
> home made setups that look like a plumbing nightmare, but they work
> 
> 
> 
> Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >This is standard issue for the kids with their rice burner Hondogs. They
> >take sewer pipe to build a tube from where they can fit the little filter
> >to the intake. The total filtration area is WAY less than the OE. It might
> >be ok for a 4 banger, but not a 6 or 8 cyl.
> >
> >The K&N is good on a /5 BMW, where the total filtration area is the
> >same. I would not put this on my MB.
> >
> >The filter mounts on my 126 never bother. What's up with yours? I had to
> >weld the mount on a 85 123 300TD, but the 126 is solid. I get over 100K on
> >a 126 filter.
> >
> >At 12:13 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
> >>Kaleb,
> >>
> >>We had a thread on this about 6 months ago. Marshall
> >>said that since the engine AS IS operates with an
> >>abundance of air, there is NO WAY it can increase
> >>performance.
> >>
> >>But I have been wondering if there is anyway it could
> >>HARM the engine. I am tired of breaking air filter
> >>mounts, of making do-dads to keep the damn thing from
> >>breaking again, etc. My concern isn't performance but
> >>the stupidest thing ever to come out of MB: the 126
> >>air cleaner mounting apparatus.
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >>
> >>Christopher
> >>
> >>
> >>--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>1985 300SD, 206K miles, "Wulf" http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
> >>1976 240D, ManyK miles, "Siegfried"/AFTP: Alternative Fuels Test Platform
> >>1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

[Mitch Haley]

Steve MacSween wrote:
> 
> No, the name just came to me: Xion, I think.
> 
> It's a whole different line, something like Lexus is to Toyota, aimed at Gen
> Y consumers. The ones I am seeing up here are the minivan-line thingies.

That's Scion. Supposed to sell the cars at full list price, like Saturn. 
They ship base models, and then the dealer adds the options. If I could
get an xA for $10k, I'd do it, but I'm not paying $13k for one. Might be
worth $13k for people who usually pay for options on cars, it comes
standard with 160W stereo, ABS, A/C, power windows&mirrors, remote locks...
http://www.edmunds.com/new/scion/index.html

Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

[Harry M.]

Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow to the 
engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase power. I found a 
setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added a extra 20hp at the rear 
wheels. I guess a lot of kids out there with little money to spend have the 
home made setups that look like a plumbing nightmare, but they work



Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This is standard issue for the kids with their rice burner Hondogs.  They 
>take sewer pipe to build a tube from where they can fit the little filter 
>to the intake. The total filtration area is WAY less than the OE.  It might 
>be ok for a 4 banger, but not a 6 or 8 cyl.
>
>The K&N  is good on a /5 BMW, where the total filtration area is the 
>same.  I would not put this on my MB.
>
>The filter mounts on my 126 never bother.  What's up with yours?  I had to 
>weld the mount on a 85 123 300TD, but the 126 is solid.  I get over 100K on 
>a 126 filter.
>
>At 12:13 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
>>Kaleb,
>>
>>We had a thread on this about 6 months ago. Marshall
>>said that since the engine AS IS operates with an
>>abundance of air, there is NO WAY it can increase
>>performance.
>>
>>But I have been wondering if there is anyway it could
>>HARM the engine. I am tired of breaking air filter
>>mounts, of making do-dads to keep the damn thing from
>>breaking again, etc. My concern isn't performance but
>>the stupidest thing ever to come out of MB: the 126
>>air cleaner mounting apparatus.
>>
>>Thoughts?
>>
>>Christopher
>>
>>
>>--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=7981938573&rd=1
>>
>>
>>
>>Christopher McCann
>>1985 300SD, 206K miles, "Wulf" http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
>>1976 240D, ManyK miles, "Siegfried"/AFTP: Alternative Fuels Test Platform
>>1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
>>Raytown, Missouri
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[David Johnson]

--- kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up
> carbon which can kill an 
> engine over time.  
I thought Diesel Purge could clear up the carbon
buildup? 
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[Desert Rat]

I've always believed that the life of a tranny is directly
proportional to the number of times it "shifts". IOW, a car driven for
long periods of time on the highway will have a longer life
transmission than one in constant stop and go situations.

John

On 6/28/05, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does running hard like this mean to the
> transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
> faster?
> 
> That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car is
> pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can kill an
> engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when accelerating
> hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want to replace, a
> carboned-up engine or a transmission.
> 
> Anyone care to jump in on this one?
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
> 
> 1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
> 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
> 1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Front seat removal w123

[JFreezn]

In a message dated 6/28/2005 9:06:49 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey Gang!
Can anybody give me words of wisdom on removing the drivers seat from my  '83 
240D? The front bolts are pretty self explanitory but the rears have me  
perplexed. Haynes is as usual useless on this. (Surprisingly good on the fuel  
filters that had me scared though) I looked at the real manual last year when  
I 
first got the seat but didn't get any real  inspiration...

Curt.
 
By now you know that you have to put the front bolts back in to provide  
enough support to ram the seat all the way forward.  then you can get the  back 
bolts out.  With the back bolts out there is a need to get the seat  all the 
way 
back to get to the front bolts..  Believe it or not, there will  be room for 
a 10mm socket when done right.  
 
NOTE/DANGER:  In any position, there is enough stored energy to give  you a 
nasty gash if you have your hands in the wrong place when you lift the  seat 
out. Wear some heavy gloves and be careful when you release that  spring 
tension 
to work on the slides.   For reassembly, one set  of slides moves freely, the 
other side has to be moved against spring  pressure.  I used a big 
screwdriver to pry the slide forward, one notch at  a time.  (this after my 
hand healed 
up)
 
Good luck,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 136 K  miles

[MBZ] Yet another Seller on Crack

[Desert Rat]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?E6BF2585B

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[kevin kraly]

What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?

That's hard to say.  Generally, everything wears faster when the car is 
pushed harder, but driving at low RPM builds up carbon which can kill an 
engine over time.  The tranny usually shifts more crisply when accelerating 
hard, so it's probably a matter of which thing you want to replace, a 
carboned-up engine or a transmission.


Anyone care to jump in on this one?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300D 132K miles, Ingrid
1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
1982 Mazda B2200 diesel pickup, 142K miles, Gopher 

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[redghost]

I may join, if they remove the road tax from diesel fuel used in cars.

On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 07:19 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:




Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:42:34 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Government is on a rampage


D o w n s i z e r - D i s p a t c h

|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|


Big Government is on a rampage. It is -- metaphorically
speaking -- raping and pillaging in all directions. In
just the past few years (and even months) it has . . .

 * Imposed a giant and fraudulent new entitlement
   program on top of an already teetering federal
   health care scheme (the prescription drug
   entitlement).

 * Transgressed fundamental American protections of
   due process (the Patriot Act and others).

 * Undermined the future of our currency (through
   hidden monetary inflation and massive deficit
   spending).

 * Gutted free elections (through campaign finance
   laws and other incumbent protection schemes).

 * Ravaged the First Amendment (through new censorship
   laws, with more on the way).

 * Launched a dangerous, unconstitutional war under
   false pretenses and conducted that war in a manner
   that tremendously endangered our troops while
   failing to focus on the capture of the man
   responsible for 9-11.

 * Launched a program to invade and medicate our
   childrens' minds for the sake of corporate welfare
   for major pharmaceutical companies.

 * Flouted the will of the people, trampled the
   separation of powers between the federal and state
   governments, and denied the sick and suffering badly
   needed relief (the medical marijuana decision).

 * Imposed a system of national personal identification
   on the American people (REAL ID Act).

 * Schemed to turn all Americans into informers on
   their friends, family, and neighbors, under risk of
   imprisonment (the Sennsenbrenner legislation).

 * Given us legislation without representation, by
   failing to read the laws it creates.

 * Placed a virtual lien on the property of every
   single American for the financial benefit of
   wealthy developers (the Kelo decision).

Government is on a rampage, and it's going to get
worse before it gets better. BUT IT IS GOING TO GET
BETTER, because we are slowly but surely preparing a
rampage of our own. A rampage of the citizens against
their lawless government.

There are only 535 people in Congress, 9 on the
Supreme Court, and 1 in the White House. But there are
millions and millions of Americans who are growing
uneasy, fearful, and resentful of their rampaging
government. A backlash is brewing, and we aim to
channel, encourage, facilitate, and direct that
backlash.

 * The day is coming when every portal into the halls
   of government will be invaded and overrun by us.

 * The day is coming when the small number of people
   who are leading the government's rampage against us
   will themselves be under siege.

 * They have nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Their
   computers will be clogged, their phone lines jammed,
   their desks piled high with the appeals of the
   people. Their districts will be flooded with
   advertisements exposing their crimes, and accusing
   them by name as the culprits.

All of this is coming. Slowly, but relentlessly, and
certainly. The tools are being built, one by one. The
army is being raised, in ever growing numbers.

We are pondering and planning a response to the Kelo
(eminent domain) decision.

And we have a new programmer working to batter down
every new barrier Congress erects against us, and on
top of that, to add new tools to invade the halls of
government in new ways, and in every way.

Our army of people with Electronic Pitchforks is
growing every day; as is the intensity being directed
at Capitol Hill.

We are having an impact! New sponsors in Congress are
signing up to support Downsize DC-oriented bills.
Congress is beginning to respond to the "Read the Bills
Act" (RTBA) and getting anxious (there is more news
still to come in this area). And we are preparing our media
offensive, and other tactics to persuade and harass
the politicians mercilessly.

The DC Downsizer movement is already making its
presence felt, though we are small. And because we are
growing rapidly, it is easy to say and be confident,
that our lawless leaders haven't seen anything yet. We
are on the cusp of something, and now is the time to
push into new and uncharted territory. Please make
this journey with us.

The future can be better than the past, and the first
steps toward that better future come today and
tomorrow and next week and next month. We need your
support to take those steps.

You can make a contribution here:
http://www.downsizedc.org/contribute.shtml

 * Every person who makes an online contribution will
   be thanked by name in the Downsizer-Dispatch,
   unless they choose to remain anonymous.

 * We are starting a Campaign Committee for RTBA.
   Every person who

Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[David Johnson]

--- OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even
> at 100F today.
> This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to
> 85F, the nice cool
> breeze from the climate control system suddenly
> turned very hot. 
I've had the same problem twice within 4-5 months . 
The culprit was the monovalve the first time, and the
ACC control unit the second time. 
David
83 300DT



 
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Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[David Johnson]

--- kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My experience is that my cars tend to run better
> when they're driven hard. 
What does running hard like this mean to the
transmission?  Would that wear down the transmission
faster?  If that's the case, I'd rather run the engine
at lower efficiency than having to shell out 2K for a
new trannny.
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Re: [MBZ] wow, this car is worth $6800

[redghost]

Well, then I must offer Gump up to the gods of greed!  Her rust is  
nothing as terrible as this, and with a working radio, euro lights,  
fresh carpet, intact headliner, and Bundt rims, I would be very upset  
to fetch less than $11,460


On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

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eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6329&item=4559032404&rd=1#ebayphotohost 
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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Theory vs Practice

[redghost]

Bruce,

Using Gump as trial platform (72 115), I find the hard driving to be 
best for her.


When I got her about 16 months ago, she had sat for a long while and 
been driven with care by a musician.  I suspect he did not really take 
her out and use her, just puttered along.  Throttle was set low, and 
she smoked like a cheap hooker.  Also had issue with climbing a hill.  
Floored she made 56mph on the highway.


Change oil and adjust throttle and I could make 62mph.  I was the king 
of the world!  Drove hard for three months and got speed up to 72mph.  
Then had to garage her while I was away.  Upon return in the Fall, 
drove her hard and she could actually maintain speed on hills, smoke 
cloud dropped, and after three months of daily driving as flat out as 
could get, I got her to 85Mph.   With M1 in the tranny and diff, she 
now makes 87.


As for fuel usage, Flat out all day long is great for increasing 
mileage.  First few tanks of B100 cleaned her out, and addition of bug 
juice, killed the algae.  Standard excuse is that you get less energy 
out of BioD, so was happy with 22mpg.  After getting yelled at for 
putting $3 fuel in, I reverted to B10 or B5.  MPG increased to 25 over 
the next three or four tanks.  Last spring fuel was $1.80 or so.


In the Fall, the fuel cost about the same, but BioD is now $3.60.  More 
Petro, and some occasional BioD to fuel up and drive hard.  Keep it in 
third on city streets and push 40 or so to get it hot and keep it 
there.  Wonder about doing a diesel purge, but not sure how, so keep on 
with filling tank and hope I am not clogging injectors.  Expect MPG to 
drop with winter fuel, so toss an occasional gallon of SVO for extra 
goodness.  I find that usage decreases in relation to mileage.  Around 
X-mas, I get 30mph on a drive to PDX and back.  Cool.


So, it is summer now, the BioD is readily available and back under 
$3/gal.  Mostly doing I-5 miles in the 60-90 range every day until this 
week.  I have yet to hit less than 29mpg in a 33 year old car since 
March when I was doing more city driving on winter fuel.


YMMV



On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 01:54 PM, B Dike wrote:


So Dieselers,

With many of you folks advocating that our diesels
must be driven *hard*, I decided to look into it a
little.  I theorized that diesels differ from gas
motors in that the power loss (per stroke) from
compressing the intake air is relatively constant over
throttle setting.  In other words, diesels use a lot
of energy simply compressing the intake air, but the
percent of fuel expended to compress the air goes down
as power setting increases.  On the other hand, a
gasser has much less compression, and compression
power loss is proportional with throttle setting due
to their intake air butterfly.  So it seems plausible
that one should drive a diesel as hard as possible to
achieve the highest efficiency, as opposed to gassers,
which should be driven with a light foot.

As I have been habitually driving my 300CD like the
miserly gas driver I was brought up to be (light
throttle pedal and all), it was easy to empirically
test my theory.  I simply drove the car with the
throttle pedal depressed to the floor, or coasted, as
the situation demanded.  I figured a tank of fuel
ought to debunk my theory...I didn't expect the theory
to actually work.  The first tank came in at 24 mpg.
Interesting, since I had been recording a steady
22.5-23 mpg with my old style for the last couple
years.  Just a coincidence I figured, so I gave it
another tank.  25 mpg!!  So at least driving hard
didn't reduce the mileage, and it actually seems to
help.  As a side benefit, the car runs better now.  I
wonder if engine life is affected, however.

Anyone else have any data to validate the 'drive it
hard' theory?

Bruce

Bruce
82 300CD 333kmi 'His'
85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission)
77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car'
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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You know, my SDL will blow 42-45 vent temp on 90+ degree days with 134, 
Im amazed.


Loren Faeth wrote:

try turning the temp all the way cold while driving down the highway.  
R134 ain't worth crap unless you are moving at highway speeds.  Mine 
will occasionally lose its mind and blow hot, but if I turn the dial to 
more blue, it will blow cold again.   If it blows hot with the dial 
turned all the way down, and blows hot with the Economy push button 
down, then i'd guess you need a monvalve kit.



At 09:24 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:


The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even at 100F today.
This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to 85F, the nice cool
breeze from the climate control system suddenly turned very hot. I'm
guessing that this is the primary symptom of a faulty mono valve???
The car was converted to R134a by the PO, so I've been concerned that
the system might blow up with the black goo at any time, but then
again, this is the second summer since I bought it.

So, do I just order the mono valve repair kit, or do the trouble
shooting routine?

TIA,
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch]

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, I think his name is craig

Alan Duff wrote:


Kaleb:

I think a spammer got through.

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

- Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A bunch of crap snipped>

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Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

pull it out and see if the diaphram is torn

OK Don wrote:


The A/C in my '87 300SDL has been wirking fine, even at 100F today.
This eveining after the outside temp had dropped to 85F, the nice cool
breeze from the climate control system suddenly turned very hot. I'm
guessing that this is the primary symptom of a faulty mono valve???
The car was converted to R134a by the PO, so I've been concerned that
the system might blow up with the black goo at any time, but then
again, this is the second summer since I bought it.

So, do I just order the mono valve repair kit, or do the trouble
shooting routine?

TIA,


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,  81 300TD,
 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts