[MBZ] Gee my car sure shuts down quickly now
Shutdown valve installed and tested successful. In my two years of Benz diesel ownership, I had no idea that THIS was how the car was supposed to shut down -- instantly, just like a gasser does. Thanks to everyone who gave advice and hand-holding. I will admit to my normal paranoia, and had my brother-in-law (who is also my paid mechanic at his day job) standing by, towel in hand and air cleaner cover removed, just in case. He said he has had to shut down a couple of diesels exactly this way so I insisted that he stand by as the quick response team while I turned the key. The bad news is that I got so much Mobil 1 Splatter under my fingernails that I think I need to spray some degreaser on the engine, hose it down, and start chasing leaks. Did notice one interesting thing. The catalog calls for two gaskets. When I removed what I have to believe is factory stuff, I found a thick metal washer sitting against metal on the toward-the-front-of-the-car side and then a cork [I guess it was cork, but was as stiff as metal] washer outboard of that. ... Having two washers available, I did washer / metal / washer / shutoff valve. Seems to work. Don -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
Uh, yea, much to my embarassment I found it not 30 seconds after I sent the original email. D'oh. On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: You must have learned Russian somewhere along the way then -- unless I can't find the button that says give this to me in English. On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use this: http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng gave me LOTS of info about my '85 190D 2.0 There's an = english in the top right corner of MY browser. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] Locked Ignition
In the past ~2 weeks, if I move my steering wheel at all before starting, the ignition locks up. I know that this is not uncommon. However, once it happens, it is almost unmovable. Sometimes it only takes a few tries but other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. What's going on? Do I need to replace the ignition? Mind you that the key works for everything else and that when the ignition does not lock up the key starts the car just fine. Thanx for the help, Joseph Mendyka
Re: [MBZ] W124 ACC vacuum pod replacement tutorial
I want your 500. Please prepare to head east on I-80 and I will email you specific exit rural routes to my house separately. Be sure to bring return air fare from Des Moines. And thank you. :-) On 8/18/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated my original post from 3+ years ago with some new info and also the list of part numbers. The prices of the pods have gone up at least 50%, which is a real pain in the wallet. The complete write-up is at Rusty's web forum, click the link below if you own a W124: http://buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528 Contact Rusty if you need to buy the pods (800-741-5252). :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
Thats probably about right for retail price of one if there is no major rust problems, interior not trashed out, engine running good etc. As far as the glow plug light, those dont have the fast glow so it will take 30 seconds or more before the glow light goes out. Rory wrote: Darn Gmail went offline and was telling me msg was not sent, and crap I forgot about pre 81 cars not being carfax. So is $1300 a good deal on a 240d? very minor rust A/C is empty needs rotors and calipers rebuilt, glow plug light stays on longer than normal but once warmed up goes out and runs fine. Was hoping it was M/T but sez auto works great. Anything I should look out for? Thank you Rory On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: I have found a 77 240D with 150k on it, looking for some info and history. Could someone run a carfax on this VIN for me please? 12312312040066 It's too old, Rory. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I actually asked about it first so I have first dibs on it. Rusty Cullens wrote: If Richard sells me his I will rent it for 10% of the sale price. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:55 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool The question is, Rusty, how much do you rent yours for? -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 18, 2005 10:52 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool How much? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I use a hammer for crimping the chain, works just fine. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:35:47PM -0400, BenzBarn wrote: I give you a hammer for free. Cheaper than any tool from MB and very dependable. Right, but about the only thing you can use it on properly without breaking anything is a ford. This is why the big hammer in my tool box is called the ford hammer. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
Buy the f ... sorry, thought I was on Banned. I'd suggest you buy the vehicle. I have been extremely happy with my 1977 240D. I have put about $1000 (much of that new tires) into it and would not hesitate to head to either coast. At the age of 52, I fully expect this to be my last car. Don On 8/18/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/91556597.html On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: Anything I should look out for? Your wallet. That's a bit much for a 240D in the condition you describe. Strike that. That's way more than I'd pay for a 240D in that condition. It's not quite Kaleb fodder, but it might be getting close. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Read 'Um and Weep
argggh!
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe seats
Second, there are two styles of 123 Coupe seats, I believe the crossover was very late in production, maybe 84 or 85. One more, I think. In '79 the coupe seat was lowered for more headroom. When I bought my 78 300D off the floor at my dealer, there was a 300CD nearby which I sat in but my head was against the headliner. I could have bought the coupe cheaper than the sedan because at that time buyers weren't interested in a coupe with a 77hp diesel engine. Later I sat in a '79 coupe and the headroom was much better. The change was confirmed by my salesman. RLE
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
Sounds like whoever's keying those things is overdue for a refresher course. He must be doing something wrong. Wonder if keying is done at a single NA facility.. joe ... http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually asked about it first so I have first dibs on it.
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe Mendyka wrote: In the past ~2 weeks, if I move my steering wheel at all before starting, the ignition locks up. I know that this is not uncommon. However, once it happens, it is almost unmovable. Sometimes it only takes a few tries but other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. What's going on? Do I need to replace the ignition? Mind you that the key works for everything else and that when the ignition does not lock up the key starts the car just fine. You have an impending appointment with a dremel or a repair shop. Replace the tumbler, and while it's out, remove the steering lock and make sure it isn't gummed up. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BT, WRONG Joe Knight wrote: I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually asked about it first so I have first dibs on it. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought I so despritatley needed. Sits in the back of the tool box with a bunch of other '' needed '' tools. I'll gladly take all those unneeded tools off your hands. I'll even pay shipping. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Well BT, WRONG to you too! I believe I can document my contention should the need arise. Of course Richard can sell the tool to whomever he damn well pleases if he hasn't already done so. On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT, WRONG Joe Knight wrote: I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
hydraulic valve adjusting tool? Why would you need to adjust hydraulic valves? John Ervine wrote: BenzBarn wrote: It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought I so despritatley needed. Sits in the back of the tool box with a bunch of other '' needed '' tools. I'll gladly take all those unneeded tools off your hands. I'll even pay shipping. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is. Joe Knight wrote: Well BT, WRONG to you too! I believe I can document my contention should the need arise. Of course Richard can sell the tool to whomever he damn well pleases if he hasn't already done so. On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT, WRONG Joe Knight wrote: I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:02:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: BT, WRONG Don't you have a 560 you need to be fixing, Kaleb? :) K
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
WHAT red lights? On 8/18/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve, The car was bought for his mother and she now is unable to drive, he said they are the 4th owner on it but had it checked with MBZ shop near Santa Monica. Well it looks like the red lights are starting to go off and looks like I should not invest anymore of my time in it, price looked good. So I'll start my search for what I really think I should get and that is a 190D unless someone can talk me out of it. Seems to me that 300's can be had all day long, but 190's are on the short list. On my other post I had asked which MBZ gets the best fuel mileage, most said go with the 190D series. I want a good looking car for driving back and forth to work and trying to keep it under $3000 The hunt is on Rory On 8/18/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Real men only need cars with four pots. Anyway, most cars for sale at the bottom-feeder end of the pond are going to need SOMETHING. (Oh, yes, now I've gone and done it, some wisearse is now going to reply about the museum-kwality 300sd he bought for $800 last year, blah blah blah... LoL.) Seriously, Rory, why does the current owner say it needs caliperS rebuilt? Did it sit for a prolonged period? If so, be very careful about having the car checked. Prolonged inactivity (which I define as 12 mos) is as bad for Mercedes as it is for people. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get a real car (1982 - 85 300D) for not much more. On 8/18/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you need a/c, it sounds like it's worth no more than $500 to me. Needs a fair amount of time on the brakes and could need more than $1000 on a/c.. -Original Message- From: Rory Sent: Aug 18, 2005 12:47 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please Darn Gmail went offline and was telling me msg was not sent, and crap I forgot about pre 81 cars not being carfax. So is $1300 a good deal on a 240d? very minor rust A/C is empty needs rotors and calipers rebuilt, glow plug light stays on longer than normal but once warmed up goes out and runs fine. Was hoping it was M/T but sez auto works great. Anything I should look out for? Thank you Rory On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: I have found a 77 240D with 150k on it, looking for some info and history. Could someone run a carfax on this VIN for me please? 12312312040066 It's too old, Rory. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
yes, I do. And I think the timing chain I got for it has a clip anyways. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:02:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: BT, WRONG Don't you have a 560 you need to be fixing, Kaleb? :) K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Maybe he's pullin' our collective chain. ;) joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
yes, thats it. Joe Knight wrote: Maybe he's pullin' our collective chain. ;) joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have an impending appointment with a dremel or a repair shop. Replace the tumbler, and while it's out, remove the steering lock and make sure it isn't gummed up. Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and let my incompetence show through. What is a tumbler? What does it do? What kind of procedure am I looking at?
Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump
What came loose is the six bolts that hold the vacuum pump on to the engine block! All of them fell off, presumeably after being worked loose - for all I know, when I got the car two years and change ago, some of them might have already been gone; it's not something you normally check. Stuart S. Message: 6 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:34:11 -0700 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Since I am a total novice with these cars, I am sorry to say I can't really offer much useful advice. However, you might help me since your car appears to be identical to mine. What exactly came loose? I should open the hood and check to make sure my bolts are tight so that I won't suffer the same fate as you did. Would also be interested in comparing notes to some extent off list if you are willing since there doesn't seem to be many of the 115 model owners left on the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (office and home email) Randy in Winnipeg
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe, I can't help you with the tumbler, etc., explanation you need, but there are some folks on this list that like to see emails signed w/a name. If you will do that, you can be assured of assistance with some of best Mercedes wisdom available... Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Joe Mendyka wrote: On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have an impending appointment with a dremel or a repair shop. Replace the tumbler, and while it's out, remove the steering lock and make sure it isn't gummed up.
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
How does one remove/clean the steering lock? My CD had a bad tumbler, purchased and replaced it, and it still tried to lock on me the first time I used it. SO I removed the NEW lock and have been screwdrivering it since till I can pull my parts ignition. TIA, Luther On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:04:49 -0500, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Mendyka wrote: In the past ~2 weeks, if I move my steering wheel at all before starting, the ignition locks up. I know that this is not uncommon. However, once it happens, it is almost unmovable. Sometimes it only takes a few tries but other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. What's going on? Do I need to replace the ignition? Mind you that the key works for everything else and that when the ignition does not lock up the key starts the car just fine. You have an impending appointment with a dremel or a repair shop. Replace the tumbler, and while it's out, remove the steering lock and make sure it isn't gummed up. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 131
-Original Message- Evidently I'm blind, or didn't' realize that the vacuum pump would be under Brakes - though I recall looking under there. Maybe I didn't' page past parking brake. Because it totally IS there! Thanks! Stuart S. Message: 7 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:39:24 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nothing in the brake section of the chassis manual? That's a shocker! Looks like the DIN# for those bolts (6?) is 914020 006013. joe
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe Mendyka wrote: other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. Do not lock the ignition again until you replace the lock cylinder (aka tumbler). The last time you unlocked it may be the last time you are ever able to lock it. MBz did not design the car so that a locksmith can take it apart when it's locked. If you don't want to pay $500 in labor for a mechanic to drill out some parts that are about as hard as a drill bit, you will order a replacement lockset bright and early tomorrow morning. (or buy one out of dealer stock and deal with the fact that the ignition isn't keyed alike with the doors) Just turn it to the left until the engine shuts off and leave it there until you replace it, don't turn it all the way to the leftmost (locked) position.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe Mendyka wrote: Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and let my incompetence show through. What is a tumbler? What does it do? What kind of procedure am I looking at? The tumbler is what you put the key in. To take it out, you need a paperclip or very thin jeweler's screwdriver. You'll have it out in 5 minutes flat. To avoid clogging the list, I'll e-mail you the requisite .PDFs from the service manual offlist. But you'll have to tell me what kind of car you have first. ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Luther Gulseth wrote: How does one remove/clean the steering lock? My CD had a bad tumbler, purchased and replaced it, and it still tried to lock on me the first time I used it. SO I removed the NEW lock and have been screwdrivering it since till I can pull my parts ignition. TIA, Luther Since it benefits everyone with a w123, and removes the tumbler and the steering column, I'll attach the .PDFs to the list. Sorry to all you dial-up users that aren't on digest... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 46-640-2.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document 46-640.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
Dave M. wrote: Oh great - I'm about to replace a 20-year old tumbler, thinking that it's safer than waiting for it to act up and then seize, then I read THIS: http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334 I'm replacing it anyway, and hoping Neil's experience was a fluke... Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments
Chris, I'd suggest an email to Virginia Tech. LOTS of guys down there (such as my son was) looking for MS projects. On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's a great idea. There is plenty of room for very serious research in this field. trip to UMKC (U of MO @ KC)...chemistry...environmental sciences...engineering... CM --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A university lab might do it for free and chalk it up to research. You could even side up with a grad student and convince them it's thesis material... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that makes sense for forensic work. Wouldn't hurt to phone the KCPD lab and ask if they do outside jobs too. If university labs do it for a little cash, why not the cops? CM ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
Hi all, I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. Brought her back to my place and stopped on the driveway. The driveway is a little incline, about 30'. No matter what I did, the car did not have any power to get up the hill. Flooring the pedal did nothing. i had to put it in reverse to a flat spot and get a running start. Any ideas? Thanks George -- Original message -- Sounds to me like your spark timing is ok...the car should idle at 800-900 rpm. Set the speed with the idle adjustment screws on the carbs. If your idle is abnormally high, make sure the fast-idle cam isn't sticking. It's in the front choke housing. One more obervation regarding the distributor. If I were looking for reliable, (relatively) low-maintenance service from this car, I'd get a Pertronix electronic ignition module to replace the original transistorized ignition. I friend of mine has this setup in his W114 coupe and it is excellent. I find myself fiddling with the points in my car a lot, but I don't drive it that much. If I did, I'd get a Pertronix unit installed. Russ
[MBZ] 87 190D Front crank seal repair
List I am going to try an replace the front crank shaft seal on my 87 190D. I do not have the locking bracket, but was planning on using a strap wrench around the pulley itself. Is the pulley strong enough to take the squeezes of the strap wrench. or some othe method to hold the crankshaft. I would also like to know if the hub that slides onto the shaft is a sliding fit or a press fit. Just would like to know if there any other gotchas before I start. I called the dealer in Cincinnati and was quoted $510 for labor. Any other insight would be appriciated. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 205K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
Marshall Booth wrote: Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Which is why when I beat the piss out of my cars, I have the lone Mercedes Benz key in the ignition and acquiesce to being struck by flying debris in the cabin. If I have to salvage my keys and other personal belongings from the spare tire well and/or points unknown when I come to a stop, so be it. Beats dealing with a failed tumbler any day of the year. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
John: ?? WT* is the flying debris stuff? Don On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Which is why when I beat the piss out of my cars, I have the lone Mercedes Benz key in the ignition and acquiesce to being struck by flying debris in the cabin. If I have to salvage my keys and other personal belongings from the spare tire well and/or points unknown when I come to a stop, so be it. Beats dealing with a failed tumbler any day of the year. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Curt Raymond wrote: While I was there my Indy mentioned he knew of an '82 300SD for sale. Apparently both gentlemen are anal about maintenance. He wants $2k. I'll take it if everything (esp A/C) still works. Where is it? BTW, there's a 1984 W126 for sale here in Michigan for $500, supposed to still be running ok, wrecked front rear. I'm thinking about looking at it, engine is probably worth $500, and if the seats will fit in my W116...
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
$100 and I don't care about the ac. On 8/18/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: While I was there my Indy mentioned he knew of an '82 300SD for sale. Apparently both gentlemen are anal about maintenance. He wants $2k. I'll take it if everything (esp A/C) still works. Where is it? BTW, there's a 1984 W126 for sale here in Michigan for $500, supposed to still be running ok, wrecked front rear. I'm thinking about looking at it, engine is probably worth $500, and if the seats will fit in my W116... ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Front crank seal repair
Robert Massmann wrote: List I am going to try an replace the front crank shaft seal on my 87 190D. I do not have the locking bracket, but was planning on using a strap wrench around the pulley itself. No strap wrench I've seen will transmit the kind of torque it takes to mount a front pulley assy. If it has a proper tranny, put it in 5th and have somebody stand on the brakes. (oops, I read your sig, you've got turbo/auto) I'd use an air wrench.
[MBZ] 240d ignition
Hello all! I am a new old MB fan. Just picked up a 1974 240D Diesel 5sp for $100. After 2 days of buffing and cleaning, I charged up the battery. The key is stuck in the on position so I jumped the starter and she runs like a top! Aside from a little Michigan Rust the car looks pretty good and drives out ok! Pretty Cool! I see others are having key problems. Is there a trick to getting the key to actually come out of the ignition tumbler without dropping the steering column and replacing the ignition? Also, there is a glow plug knob on the left side of the dashboard, what is the knob that lights up by the ash tray? Maybe an original glow plug knob? Ay info is appreciated! BTW, I see some readers like a chuckle now and then so. The husband had just finished reading the book, 'MAN OF THE HOUSE'. He stormed into the kitchen and walked directly up to his wife. Pointing a finger in her face, he said, From now on, I want you to know that I am the man of this house, and my word is law! I want you to prepare me a gourmet meal tonight, and when I'm finished eating my meal, I expect a sumptuous dessert afterward. Then, after dinner, you are going to draw me my bath so I can relax. And when I'm finished with my bath, guess who's going to dress me and comb my hair? His wife replied, The f**cking funeral director would be my guess. FRED DE VRIES
Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump
Mine failed after only two months of being rebuilt. Rusty sent me new parts and I'm going to tear into it tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what failed. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 138K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump Here is my writeup on the 123 vac pump, which I redid a few months ago, and lo it failed again a coupla days ago. I have not had time to deal with it yet, kinda odd that it would do that. I think yours must be different but same basic deal. http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm Anyway, maybe this will help. The bolts on mine were allen head, maybe 5mm or 6mm by about an inch long (that would be 25mm I guess). Nothing special about them, basic metric pitch. I think there were 5 or 6, a dollar's worth at the hardware store. --R Stuart Saxonberg wrote: Hi, list! Yesterday, driving home, I heard an awful noise coming from the front of my car (w115 300D, OM617.910). As I pulled over, I noticed my power brakes were no longer power, and the car didn't shut off when I turned the key. Once I opened the hood, the reason was clear - the vacuum pump was no longer attached to the engine, and was hanging in place on its hoses, and the noise was it rattling against the fan (fortunately, it caused no significant damage to the fan, though there are a few nice chips out of one of the blades from one of the screw or bolt caps on the pump casing. Anyway, having ascertained that there doesn't appear to be anything missing from the inside of the pump (which looks dead simple, thoroughly attached and just like the new one on rusty's site), I've ordered a rebuild kit (pre-emptively, since it's already off) and a new gasket. I have a few questions, though: 1). Is there anything unusual or unobvious about putting it back on or rebuilding it? It looks like it ought to be simple, but there's nothing in the manual about it, so I thought I'd ask if there are any un-obvious snags. Do I have to lubricate or seal anything in the pump, or the new rubber bit for the rebuild? 2) Am I correct in thinking I just need to bolt it on with the new gasket? No sealant is necessary, yes? 3) What kind of bolts do I need? (Hoping someone knows, somehow!) Since mine *fell off*, I don't have any, and Rusty's people say MB doesn't carry those bolts anymore, so I'm going to have to buy some from a hardware store. If anyone has one lying around for some reason, the size and pitch and length would be very, very, very useful. Thanks a bunch in advance, Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 (OM617.910) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
Too much Vodka for my crazy Amercican friend. You come to Russia and buy cheapski Mercedes car. Fix the bullet holes and clean blood from inside and it will be good for you to travel in your capitalistki country. Be checking the boot of car for my associates who have gone missing. Comrade Hendriksi Specialising the sale of pre driven black cars with red insides. All kilometreski guranteed and do not forget you ask about free vodka with every of our good cars. - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E Oh my ... disregard my last. Found it. On 8/18/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have learned Russian somewhere along the way then -- unless I can't find the button that says give this to me in English. On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use this: http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng gave me LOTS of info about my '85 190D 2.0 -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005
Re: [MBZ] 240d ignition
Damn you! But are you sure it is a FIVE speed, or are you counting reverse as one of the gears? On 8/18/05, Fred De Vries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just picked up a 1974 240D Diesel 5sp for $100. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
Uh, yea ... the au in your email address confirms that you are in Moscow. On 8/18/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too much Vodka for my crazy Amercican friend. You come to Russia and buy cheapski Mercedes car. Fix the bullet holes and clean blood from inside and it will be good for you to travel in your capitalistki country. Be checking the boot of car for my associates who have gone missing. Comrade Hendriksi Specialising the sale of pre driven black cars with red insides. All kilometreski guranteed and do not forget you ask about free vodka with every of our good cars. - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E Oh my ... disregard my last. Found it. On 8/18/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have learned Russian somewhere along the way then -- unless I can't find the button that says give this to me in English. On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use this: http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng gave me LOTS of info about my '85 190D 2.0 -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Hey, I'm farm boy and you learn to make do. I used to rivet sections into a mower knife all the time and this isn't that much different. There's noting to it if you know what you're doing. Lay the chain in place, slide the master link in, put the centre piece in and use vice grips and a small nut over the pins to force the other link into place. I use two hammers - one at the back of the link and the other to slowly peen the link into place. A study of the factory crimp shows that it really doesn't take much to peen it into place. I very seriously doubt that it will ever come apart. If the smaller crimp from the tool holds it, so will this method. You guys might be surprised at just how many people do this but don't say that they do. No doubt some are unaware of the tool but 500 bucks is too much for it anyway. All you're really doing is riveting some metal - something I learned how to do a long time ago.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Oh, I use them. Just not as important as I thought they would be. My distributor tester? I USE that and it pays to have it around. Mighty vac? Great tool anyone can use or should have. Set of end wrenches? A necessity. Master link crimper? The jury is still out on that one...
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You come to Russia and buy cheapski Mercedes car. Fix the bullet holes and clean blood from inside and it will be good for you to travel in your capitalistki country. Be checking the boot of car for my associates who have gone missing. All power to the Soviets! Bring in the Lithuanian dancing girls! Lenin needs his fluids changed, comrade! What in god's name got us onto this, anyway! Mac
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
LT Don wrote: John: ?? WT* is the flying debris stuff? Anything not secured in the passenger cabin becomes flying debris shortly after the oil pressure gauge pegs. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
[MBZ] Flying Freebie
Hi, All. Home with a sore jaw from the dentist's tender mercies, The pain killers had me flying, so, when my feet touched down, it was off to the Junkyard! (therapy) I scavenged a Black book parts catalog for 450SE/SEL 116 1972 U.S. Version. Free for the asking. There was nothing for me at this J/Y but there were three V8 vergasse cars, I have vin on two of them:-116.033 12 033629 brown with 3 hubcaps still on it, spare wheel well had small rust thru. and a Euro with H4 lights and wipers 116.028 12 045648 or 045548 the vin plate on the door post was written in in pen and ink and hard to read. The 045548 was the chassis No. Black on black, and actually looked pretty good, with not much gone. The other one was a 380S?? I must take more of that medicine, It makes me seem normal. NOT! TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis and pain-killers and flying cars.
Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum pump
Stuart The only thing I can think of is that there is a main line check valve that isn't included in the rebuild kit. It is the valve located at the vacuum side of the pump. You might as well replace that while you are in there. I'm going to send article directly to you on rebuilding because it will only get stripped on this site. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD Hi, list! Yesterday, driving home, I heard an awful noise coming from the front of my car (w115 300D, OM617.910). As I pulled over, I noticed my power brakes were no longer power, and the car didn't shut off when I turned the key. Once I opened the hood, the reason was clear - the vacuum pump was no longer attached to the engine, and was hanging in place on its hoses, and the noise was it rattling against the fan (fortunately, it caused no significant damage to the fan, though there are a few nice chips out of one of the blades from one of the screw or bolt caps on the pump casing. Anyway, having ascertained that there doesn't appear to be anything missing from the inside of the pump (which looks dead simple, thoroughly attached and just like the new one on rusty's site), I've ordered a rebuild kit (pre-emptively, since it's already off) and a new gasket. I have a few questions, though: 1). Is there anything unusual or unobvious about putting it back on or rebuilding it? It looks like it ought to be simple, but there's nothing in the manual about it, so I thought I'd ask if there are any un-obvious snags. Do I have to lubricate or seal anything in the pump, or the new rubber bit for the rebuild? 2) Am I correct in thinking I just need to bolt it on with the new gasket? No sealant is necessary, yes? 3) What kind of bolts do I need? (Hoping someone knows, somehow!) Since mine *fell off*, I don't have any, and Rusty's people say MB doesn't carry those bolts anymore, so I'm going to have to buy some from a hardware store. If anyone has one lying around for some reason, the size and pitch and length would be very, very, very useful. Thanks a bunch in advance, Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 (OM617.910)
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
NO F'in WONDER I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING TONIGHT. HAD THIS #$([EMAIL PROTECTED] 7.2MB DOWNLOAD.. Thanks for the help:) Luther On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:06:56 -0500, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote: How does one remove/clean the steering lock? My CD had a bad tumbler, purchased and replaced it, and it still tried to lock on me the first time I used it. SO I removed the NEW lock and have been screwdrivering it since till I can pull my parts ignition. TIA, Luther Since it benefits everyone with a w123, and removes the tumbler and the steering column, I'll attach the .PDFs to the list. Sorry to all you dial-up users that aren't on digest... -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump
Why do you have so many listers with you Kaleb? Will you allow them to go home again? On Thursday, August 18, 2005, at 08:43 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There are lots of 115 owners on the list, I have 7 or 8 of them myself. R A Bennell wrote: Would also be interested in comparing notes to some extent off list if you are willing since there doesn't seem to be many of the 115 model owners left on the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (office and home email) Randy in Winnipeg -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump
Aha. So now we know. Go to Kaleb's for parts and you and your SDL are never seen again... Bates Benz Parts, as it were. So that's where that stuff he puts on eBay comes from. (Haven't you ever noticed it's odd that he only seems to have old rustheaps in his yard, but has nice newer parts on eVilBay?) mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you have so many listers with you Kaleb? Will you allow them to go home again? On Thursday, August 18, 2005, at 08:43 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There are lots of 115 owners on the list, I have 7 or 8 of them myself. R A Bennell wrote: Would also be interested in comparing notes to some extent off list if you are willing since there doesn't seem to be many of the 115 model owners left on the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (office and home email) Randy in Winnipeg
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
To many warning signs, anyway car was sold tonite. Search is on On 8/18/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHAT red lights? On 8/18/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve, The car was bought for his mother and she now is unable to drive, he said they are the 4th owner on it but had it checked with MBZ shop near Santa Monica. Well it looks like the red lights are starting to go off and looks like I should not invest anymore of my time in it, price looked good. So I'll start my search for what I really think I should get and that is a 190D unless someone can talk me out of it. Seems to me that 300's can be had all day long, but 190's are on the short list. On my other post I had asked which MBZ gets the best fuel mileage, most said go with the 190D series. I want a good looking car for driving back and forth to work and trying to keep it under $3000 The hunt is on Rory On 8/18/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Real men only need cars with four pots. Anyway, most cars for sale at the bottom-feeder end of the pond are going to need SOMETHING. (Oh, yes, now I've gone and done it, some wisearse is now going to reply about the museum-kwality 300sd he bought for $800 last year, blah blah blah... LoL.) Seriously, Rory, why does the current owner say it needs caliperS rebuilt? Did it sit for a prolonged period? If so, be very careful about having the car checked. Prolonged inactivity (which I define as 12 mos) is as bad for Mercedes as it is for people. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get a real car (1982 - 85 300D) for not much more. On 8/18/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you need a/c, it sounds like it's worth no more than $500 to me. Needs a fair amount of time on the brakes and could need more than $1000 on a/c.. -Original Message- From: Rory Sent: Aug 18, 2005 12:47 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please Darn Gmail went offline and was telling me msg was not sent, and crap I forgot about pre 81 cars not being carfax. So is $1300 a good deal on a 240d? very minor rust A/C is empty needs rotors and calipers rebuilt, glow plug light stays on longer than normal but once warmed up goes out and runs fine. Was hoping it was M/T but sez auto works great. Anything I should look out for? Thank you Rory On 8/18/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: I have found a 77 240D with 150k on it, looking for some info and history. Could someone run a carfax on this VIN for me please? 12312312040066 It's too old, Rory. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
Hi Mac, You want carski too. I have good deal on low mileage s class, only sixty bulletholes and slight blood stains. Seriously though, Comrade Marshall Booth forwarded a VIN checker from the Russian MB club(Marshall is probably the diesel guru for them as well:-)) which somehow Rear Admiral Don managed to get entirely in Russian. Anyway I thought while we where talking buying cars and Russia I would attempt some humour and pretend I am an honest used car salesman from Russia. However LT Don was not fooled and saw straight through me, so that old 230TE I have sitting in the shed will just have to wait for someone else. You are not wanting good honest old Mercedes station wagen without motor? It has no bullet holes just a few rust holes. Honest Hendriks used car emporium - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You come to Russia and buy cheapski Mercedes car. Fix the bullet holes and clean blood from inside and it will be good for you to travel in your capitalistki country. Be checking the boot of car for my associates who have gone missing. All power to the Soviets! Bring in the Lithuanian dancing girls! Lenin needs his fluids changed, comrade! What in god's name got us onto this, anyway! Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005
Re: [MBZ] W124 ACC vacuum pod replacement tutorial
Actually, I would part with it, but for a price... probably more than most on this list would care to cough up, I'm afraid!! I need to post some current photos of the completed car, I don't have many (any?) with the enormous iForged wheels mounted. ;-) -dm -- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:29:11 -0500 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 ACC vacuum pod replacement tutorial I want your 500. Please prepare to head east on I-80 and I will email you specific exit rural routes to my house separately. Be sure to bring return air fare from Des Moines. And thank you. :-)
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Yeah... what Mitch said. My W123 gave no warning and locked up while my wife was driving the car out of state last year. Despite heroic efforts from family to make the lock turn, the car ended up being towed to an indy shop who was NOT happy to see what had happened, and they demanded $600 for the privilege of making the key work again. I was not happy either. :-/ -Dave M. -- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:50:43 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition Joe Mendyka wrote: other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. Do not lock the ignition again until you replace the lock cylinder (aka tumbler). The last time you unlocked it may be the last time you are ever able to lock it. MBz did not design the car so that a locksmith can take it apart when it's locked. If you don't want to pay $500 in labor for a mechanic to drill out some parts that are about as hard as a drill bit, you will order a replacement lockset bright and early tomorrow morning. (or buy one out of dealer stock and deal with the fact that the ignition isn't keyed alike with the doors) Just turn it to the left until the engine shuts off and leave it there until you replace it, don't turn it all the way to the leftmost (locked) position.
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
Yes, but if you read the link I posted, Neil has at most three keys on the keychain... no undue weight to cause a tumbler failure in less than 12 months. Other ideas? :-( -dm -- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:16:09 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing? Dave M. wrote: Oh great - I'm about to replace a 20-year old tumbler, thinking that it's safer than waiting for it to act up and then seize, then I read THIS: http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334 I'm replacing it anyway, and hoping Neil's experience was a fluke... Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Front crank seal repair
Robert, Call some indy shops. I had this done for, IIRC, a little over $200 a couple years ago. The torque spec for the flange is huge, something like 310Nm. No strap wrench is going to hold that. I bought the flywheel lock tool off eBay, I would not attempt this job without one. I don't know any way to lock the crankshaft solidly enough to break that bolt free (or re-tighten it to spec, which requires a HUGE torque wrench) without the correct tool. The dealer's price is crazy, though. Should be 3-4 hours tops plus parts. Radiator may need to come out, which is half the labor time. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:54:57 -0400 From: Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 190D Front crank seal repair List I am going to try an replace the front crank shaft seal on my 87 190D. I do not have the locking bracket, but was planning on using a strap wrench around the pulley itself. Is the pulley strong enough to take the squeezes of the strap wrench. or some othe method to hold the crankshaft. I would also like to know if the hub that slides onto the shaft is a sliding fit or a press fit. Just would like to know if there any other gotchas before I start. I called the dealer in Cincinnati and was quoted $510 for labor. Any other insight would be appriciated. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 205K?
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so that old 230TE I have sitting in the shed will just have to wait for someone else. You are not wanting good honest old Mercedes station wagen without motor? It has no bullet holes just a few rust holes. Please to send picskis of car to comrade e-mail (no more attachmentski larger than my harddriveski to list, spasiba + horosho!). Where is rustki? Down, Kaleb, he asked me first. Mac (not Hero of Soviet Union)
[MBZ] List Attachments - PDF's etc - Email and Password
When I try to access the attached items on a list item it asks for an email address and password. What are they ? Why are they protected anyway ? Dan
Re: [MBZ] 240d ignition
its the rear defrost switch. Fred De Vries wrote: Hello all! I am a new old MB fan. Just picked up a 1974 240D Diesel 5sp for $100. After 2 days of buffing and cleaning, I charged up the battery. The key is stuck in the on position so I jumped the starter and she runs like a top! Aside from a little Michigan Rust the car looks pretty good and drives out ok! Pretty Cool! I see others are having key problems. Is there a trick to getting the key to actually come out of the ignition tumbler without dropping the steering column and replacing the ignition? Also, there is a glow plug knob on the left side of the dashboard, what is the knob that lights up by the ash tray? Maybe an original glow plug knob? Ay info is appreciated! BTW, I see some readers like a chuckle now and then so. The husband had just finished reading the book, 'MAN OF THE HOUSE'. He stormed into the kitchen and walked directly up to his wife. Pointing a finger in her face, he said, From now on, I want you to know that I am the man of this house, and my word is law! I want you to prepare me a gourmet meal tonight, and when I'm finished eating my meal, I expect a sumptuous dessert afterward. Then, after dinner, you are going to draw me my bath so I can relax. And when I'm finished with my bath, guess who's going to dress me and comb my hair? His wife replied, The f**cking funeral director would be my guess. FRED DE VRIES ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] List Attachments - PDF's etc - Email and Password
it would be the password used when you signed up, which is also emailed to you monthly. If you still dont have it you can have it sent to you by clicking on the list page at the link below every message. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to access the attached items on a list item it asks for an email address and password. What are they ? Why are they protected anyway ? Dan ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] (no subject)
Here's my two cents. I don't know where you are at, but here in the Midwest (Kansas and Missouri), you can find these pretty easily for less money. I paid $1,500 (last year) for an 81 240D with 140,000. It was in great shape! Perfect paint and the a/c worked and no rust. Don Snook 90 300D 246K Kaleb wrote: Thats probably about right for retail price of one if there is no major rust problems, interior not trashed out, engine running good etc. As far as the glow plug light, those dont have the fast glow so it will take 30 seconds or more before the glow light goes out. Rory wrote: So is $1300 a good deal on a 240d?
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Ummm Nebraska, thats it Nebraska Seriously, nobody else is getting a chance on this one until I check it out... If I decide I don't want it it will be unveiled. I'll even take pictures. Anybody know what an Adset engine is? -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:18:25 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another decision To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond wrote: While I was there my Indy mentioned he knew of an '82 300SD for sale. Apparently both gentlemen are anal about maintenance. He wants $2k. I'll take it if everything (esp A/C) still works. Where is it? BTW, there's a 1984 W126 for sale here in Michigan for $500, supposed to still be running ok, wrecked front rear. I'm thinking about looking at it, engine is probably worth $500, and if the seats will fit in my W116... - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
[MBZ] Adding a Tach to OM 61X
Marshall wrote:Adding an electrical tach to an OM61x engine that didn't have one from the factory COULD be done but it was a complex job that took a lot of time to implement and wasn't inexpensive unless you collected all the parts used. Exactly right. I did this a couple years ago; list member was parting out an '81or '82 123 sedan, I made the first bid for the cluster and tach wiring and got that and some other stuff for $50. The part that made it very easy was that this tach sensor/pick up is mounted at the front of the engine, same bracket location as that for the pointer for crank damper timing marks. It was pretty much a bolt/wire in affair. Later the Tach amplifier died, so I had to get a new one from Rusty, but it has worked like a champ since then. Took an afternoon to install the whole set up and make it look pretty. A key part is also the magnet mounted in the crank damper, to induce the signal in the pick-up sensor. Looks like a small steel pin, about one quarter inch diameter and sticks up about one quarter inch. Should already be in your crank damper located so that it passes near the pointer. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Curt Raymond wrote: Anybody know what an Adset engine is? Adsit. Oops, I may want to retract my buy offer. ---Begin quote: Marshall Booth 05 Apr 2004 Subject: Re: [DIESEL] Engine rebuilders Adsit has a VERY poor reputation and has been the subject of more customer dissatisfaction than any other Mercedes parts supplier that I know of (but I could have missed one or two). Metric Motors and Noels are the two with the best reputation in the US that I know of. http://noel1.bizland.com/HOME_OF_MERCEDES-BENZ_AT_NOELS.htm http://www.mercedesengines.net/300s.htm Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Good. Nebraska is only a few hours away from me. As long as you're making up places why don't you say Omaha so it is really close to me? On 8/19/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ummm Nebraska, thats it Nebraska -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] 82 300SD
This sounds like a nice car for a decent price. The engine is an Adsit. It is a Mercedes Parts Company that has been sending me parts catalogs for 8 years since I bought one replacement hood star from them. There engines are supposed to have good warranties. They are only sold as short blocks (I think) so you might still need to worry about the parts that were transferred from the dead engine. It sounds like a good deal. If you don't buy it, I might really be interested in it. As a matter of fact, if anyone knows of a nice 126 for this kind of money, please email me. Don Snook 90 300D 2.5 246K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curt wrote: While I was there my Indy mentioned he knew of an '82 300SD for sale. 295k on the body, trans was rebuilt @180k, the engine was replaced 60k ago with an Adset (thats what he said, what does it mean?). New tires, new radiator and recent paint. Apparently one brake line is bad right now but that will be fixed before sale. The car was bought new by a dealership mechanic and then sold to his son in-law at some later point. Apparently both gentlemen are anal about maintenance. He wants $2k. An '82 would be a w126 right? Nothing on mileage to the 190D 2.2l but a big comfortable car I guess. I'll call the guy tomorrow and get the full scoop but what does the collective wisdom say? -Curt '83 240D Hammie 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Curt Raymond wrote: Anybody know what an Adset engine is? Adsit (http://adsitco.com/) is a Mercedes parts supplier with a reputation for terrible customer service. Not to rain on your parade, as it sounds like a really sweet car you've found, but I'd be wary without excellent compression and leak down numbers. Stu Ritter once wrote that Adsit's price for rebuilt engines is less than then sum of the price of the (genuine MB) parts involved. Proceed with caution. Tom
Re: [MBZ] 82 300SD
Here is something to consider: Even if the engine rebuild is a bit suspect, the difference between the value of maintained by anal retentives and I just fuel it up and change the oil is more than $2k, assuming the suspension, flex disks, motor mounts, ball joints, etc are all in tip-top shape.
[MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
August 18, 2005 Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign By CARTER DOUGHERTY, International Herald Tribune FRANKFURT, Aug. 18 - Eckhard Cordes, the head of the Mercedes-Benz car division who last month lost the race to become DaimlerChrysler's chief executive, will resign from the automaker at the end of the month, the company announced today. Dieter Zetsche, the incoming chief executive, will take personal control of the troubled Mercedes group as of Sept. 1. Mr. Cordes, 54, will leave the company at his own request, Daimler said in a brief statement. Mr. Cordes offered to leave on July 28, soon after Daimler's chief executive, Jürgen E. Schrempp, announced his own departure at the end of the year. Mr. Zetsche, the German executive who brought the company's Chrysler division back to profitability after years of losses, was already scheduled to lead DaimlerChrysler effective Jan. 1, when Mr. Schrempp leaves. He joins General Motors' chief executive, Rick Wagoner, in shouldering multiple roles: Mr. Wagoner assumed direct control of G.M.'s North American operations this year. Daimler, which is based in Stuttgart, German, did not say when a permanent replacement for Mr. Cordes would be named. The early exit of Mr. Cordes will also move up planned changes at Chrysler. With Mr. Zetsche now leaving next month instead of late in the year, Chrysler's chief operating officer, Thomas LaSorda, will assume the leadership of the American automaker on Sept. 1. The departure of Mr. Cordes, the subject of much speculation since Mr. Schrempp's announcement, caps a power struggle that had pitted him against Mr. Zetsche for much of the past year, as industry analysts speculated who would succeed Mr. Schrempp, the chief executive tarnished by the weak performance of Daimler since its merger with Chrysler in 1998. DaimlerChrysler did little to dampen speculation that Mr. Cordes, who assumed control of Mercedes late last year, would not serve indefinitely under Mr. Zetsche. Days after the July 28 announcement, Mr. Cordes exercised options for, and immediately sold, a large quantity of Daimler stock. Daimler's shares crept upward before the announcement of Mr. Schrempp's resignation, and then surged afterward, prompting German securities regulators to begin an investigation into possible insider trading this week. Mr. Cordes, a 29-year employee of Daimler, bequeaths to Mr. Zetsche a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. Mercedes officials said earlier that the worst was over following a huge recall in the United States and the announcement of a restructuring plan for its Smart car division. But weak performance depressed Daimler's profit in the second quarter. Mercedes has also garnered a round of bad publicity over investigations into allegations of bribery at the automaker. The United States Justice Department and German prosecutors are investigating suspicious transactions involving Mercedes's overseas operations.
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
Thanks Hendrik, I have replaced all my hoses already, with the excption of the one that comes from the manifold itself. I beleive that goes to the AC and something else. I just unplugged that and plugged in my vacuum gauge. Is 5-7 HG normal for vacuum off that port? I'm getting the same ammount off each carb as well. Thanks George -- Original message -- Hi George, My old 82 200 did that when I first got it, turned out the vaccum hose from the bottom of the carby to the distributor had a crack in it. Check the condition of all your hoses. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance) Hi all, I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. Brought her back to my place and stopped on the driveway. The driveway is a little incline, about 30'. No matter what I did, the car did not have any power to get up the hill. Flooring the pedal did nothing. i had to put it in reverse to a flat spot and get a running start. Any ideas? Thanks George -- Original message -- Sounds to me like your spark timing is ok...the car should idle at 800-900 rpm. Set the speed with the idle adjustment screws on the carbs. If your idle is abnormally high, make sure the fast-idle cam isn't sticking. It's in the front choke housing. One more obervation regarding the distributor. If I were looking for reliable, (relatively) low-maintenance service from this car, I'd get a Pertronix electronic ignition module to replace the original transistorized ignition. I friend of mine has this setup in his W114 coupe and it is excellent. I find myself fiddling with the points in my car a lot, but I don't drive it that much. If I did, I'd get a Pertronix unit installed. Russ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I know a parts supplier that would love to rent it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
You need to remove, clean, and lubricate the steering lock. I did it on my '81 300D, and it was a fairly easy job. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Mendyka Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Locked Ignition In the past ~2 weeks, if I move my steering wheel at all before starting, the ignition locks up. I know that this is not uncommon. However, once it happens, it is almost unmovable. Sometimes it only takes a few tries but other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. What's going on? Do I need to replace the ignition? Mind you that the key works for everything else and that when the ignition does not lock up the key starts the car just fine. Thanx for the help, Joseph Mendyka ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Mr Hattaway, don't you remember telling me a long time ago that I had first 'dibs' on that tool Darrell ~ Richard Hattaway wrote: Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. I don't want a luxury car, I want a reliable and long lasting one. I don't wan't a powerful engine, I want an efficient one. I hate complex electronics - manual sunroof is my dream...the network of brass rods on the 240D throttle is beautiful... ...DC is not the MB it used to be...total shift in priorities. Pity. Christopher --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: August 18, 2005 Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign By CARTER DOUGHERTY, International Herald Tribune FRANKFURT, Aug. 18 - Eckhard Cordes, the head of the Mercedes-Benz car division who last month lost the race to become DaimlerChrysler's chief executive, will resign from the automaker at the end of the month, the company announced today. Dieter Zetsche, the incoming chief executive, will take personal control of the troubled Mercedes group as of Sept. 1. Mr. Cordes, 54, will leave the company at his own request, Daimler said in a brief statement. Mr. Cordes offered to leave on July 28, soon after Daimler's chief executive, Jürgen E. Schrempp, announced his own departure at the end of the year. Mr. Zetsche, the German executive who brought the company's Chrysler division back to profitability after years of losses, was already scheduled to lead DaimlerChrysler effective Jan. 1, when Mr. Schrempp leaves. He joins General Motors' chief executive, Rick Wagoner, in shouldering multiple roles: Mr. Wagoner assumed direct control of G.M.'s North American operations this year. Daimler, which is based in Stuttgart, German, did not say when a permanent replacement for Mr. Cordes would be named. The early exit of Mr. Cordes will also move up planned changes at Chrysler. With Mr. Zetsche now leaving next month instead of late in the year, Chrysler's chief operating officer, Thomas LaSorda, will assume the leadership of the American automaker on Sept. 1. The departure of Mr. Cordes, the subject of much speculation since Mr. Schrempp's announcement, caps a power struggle that had pitted him against Mr. Zetsche for much of the past year, as industry analysts speculated who would succeed Mr. Schrempp, the chief executive tarnished by the weak performance of Daimler since its merger with Chrysler in 1998. DaimlerChrysler did little to dampen speculation that Mr. Cordes, who assumed control of Mercedes late last year, would not serve indefinitely under Mr. Zetsche. Days after the July 28 announcement, Mr. Cordes exercised options for, and immediately sold, a large quantity of Daimler stock. Daimler's shares crept upward before the announcement of Mr. Schrempp's resignation, and then surged afterward, prompting German securities regulators to begin an investigation into possible insider trading this week. Mr. Cordes, a 29-year employee of Daimler, bequeaths to Mr. Zetsche a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. Mercedes officials said earlier that the worst was over following a huge recall in the United States and the announcement of a restructuring plan for its Smart car division. But weak performance depressed Daimler's profit in the second quarter. Mercedes has also garnered a round of bad publicity over investigations into allegations of bribery at the automaker. The United States Justice Department and German prosecutors are investigating suspicious transactions involving Mercedes's overseas operations. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[MBZ] Charity 300D front tire bent a little
And the front fender is missing tooand maybe some other stuff --R TEXANS CAN! Cars for Kids Car Details Stock No: 15-38124 Lot No: 54 Year: 1983 Make: Mercedes Benz Model: 300 D Color: Yellow VIN: WDBAB33A0DB034517 Odometer: 198663 Location: Dallas Radio: Car Complete: Start: Tires Good: Battery: Spare Tire: DoorKey: Trunk Key: IgnitionKey: Replaced Parts in last Year? What Parts? No Anything wrong: yes the front tire is bent alittle Is the car Drivable? no
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
What Christopher said! Now if I can just find that low-mileage 123 that has been maintained by an anal-retentive grandfather. I think D-C misread their customer base. The bling bling is in vogue currently with the ricers, but I don't think the majority of D-C buyers appreciate it that much. There is NO excuse for poor quality. It results only when management does not care about quality. I worked in quality control for about 15 years, so I know a little about how it works. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:33 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post,Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. I don't want a luxury car, I want a reliable and long lasting one. I don't wan't a powerful engine, I want an efficient one. I hate complex electronics - manual sunroof is my dream...the network of brass rods on the 240D throttle is beautiful... ...DC is not the MB it used to be...total shift in priorities. Pity. Christopher --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: August 18, 2005 Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign By CARTER DOUGHERTY, International Herald Tribune FRANKFURT, Aug. 18 - Eckhard Cordes, the head of the Mercedes-Benz car division who last month lost the race to become DaimlerChrysler's chief executive, will resign from the automaker at the end of the month, the company announced today. Dieter Zetsche, the incoming chief executive, will take personal control of the troubled Mercedes group as of Sept. 1. Mr. Cordes, 54, will leave the company at his own request, Daimler said in a brief statement. Mr. Cordes offered to leave on July 28, soon after Daimler's chief executive, Jürgen E. Schrempp, announced his own departure at the end of the year. Mr. Zetsche, the German executive who brought the company's Chrysler division back to profitability after years of losses, was already scheduled to lead DaimlerChrysler effective Jan. 1, when Mr. Schrempp leaves. He joins General Motors' chief executive, Rick Wagoner, in shouldering multiple roles: Mr. Wagoner assumed direct control of G.M.'s North American operations this year. Daimler, which is based in Stuttgart, German, did not say when a permanent replacement for Mr. Cordes would be named. The early exit of Mr. Cordes will also move up planned changes at Chrysler. With Mr. Zetsche now leaving next month instead of late in the year, Chrysler's chief operating officer, Thomas LaSorda, will assume the leadership of the American automaker on Sept. 1. The departure of Mr. Cordes, the subject of much speculation since Mr. Schrempp's announcement, caps a power struggle that had pitted him against Mr. Zetsche for much of the past year, as industry analysts speculated who would succeed Mr. Schrempp, the chief executive tarnished by the weak performance of Daimler since its merger with Chrysler in 1998. DaimlerChrysler did little to dampen speculation that Mr. Cordes, who assumed control of Mercedes late last year, would not serve indefinitely under Mr. Zetsche. Days after the July 28 announcement, Mr. Cordes exercised options for, and immediately sold, a large quantity of Daimler stock. Daimler's shares crept upward before the announcement of Mr. Schrempp's resignation, and then surged afterward, prompting German securities regulators to begin an investigation into possible insider trading this week. Mr. Cordes, a 29-year employee of Daimler, bequeaths to Mr. Zetsche a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. Mercedes officials said earlier that the worst was over following a huge recall in the United States and the announcement of a restructuring plan for its Smart car division. But weak performance depressed Daimler's profit in the second quarter. Mercedes has also garnered a round of bad publicity over investigations into allegations of bribery at the automaker. The United States Justice Department and German prosecutors are investigating suspicious transactions involving Mercedes's overseas operations. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
In a message dated 8/18/2005 6:41:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. George, As I mentioned, too much advance will result in hard starting, especially true as the engine warms up. Did you lock down the distributor before you drove it? If not, you may have had a massive change in timing. This could also be your loss of power problem, I hope! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Another decision
Curt Raymond wrote: So my Indy finally found a broken wire that he's convinced has been destroying regulators in my 240D, I'm glad that settled finally. I'm still planning on replacing the car but theres no real hurry, I can keep my eyes peeled for a real nice deal. I'm not sure why but my Indy seems to dislike the w201 cars, maybe its the tight clearances, whatever. He's no keen on the 190D I've been looking at. For that matter neither is my wife, she says its too small. I contend that its just as big as the Corolla she pointed out on the highway last week. While I was there my Indy mentioned he knew of an '82 300SD for sale. 295k on the body, trans was rebuilt @180k, the engine was replaced 60k ago with an Adset (thats what he said, what does it mean?). New tires, new radiator and recent paint. Apparently one brake line is bad right now but that will be fixed before sale. The car was bought new by a dealership mechanic and then sold to his son in-law at some later point. Apparently both gentlemen are anal about maintenance. He wants $2k. An '82 would be a w126 right? Nothing on mileage to the 190D 2.2l but a big comfortable car I guess. I'll call the guy tomorrow and get the full scoop but what does the collective wisdom say? Adsit is a supplier of used Mercedes parts. When former customers have discussed with me their degree of satisfaction with the parts and service Adsit provided, about 8 out of ten have been VERY dissatisfied. I guess it's hard to do anything 100%! The reports I've received include that used parts were overpriced considering their condition and rebuilt parts were poorly rebuilt AND way overpriced considering the quality of the rebuild. Customers that were dissatisfied have found it virtually impossible to get refunds. That's all according to others. I have NEVER done business with them so these reports are ALL secondhand. The Star magazine (published by the Me recedes Club of America) stopped accepting ads from them many years ago after receiving a very large number of complaints that were not being addressed. I would NOT consider an Adsit engine in a car to be desirable and would reduce the offering price by 20-30% on that basis alone! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
URBAN MYTH - STUFF AND NONSENSE!! CR*P! B*LONEY!! My son and I have ALWAYS driven around our 123 300D and 300TD daily drivers with heavily laden key chains and have not had to change a single tumbler in a combined 20 years of motoring!! I will opine that it has more to do with how carelessley you insert the key and turn it... On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave M. wrote: Oh great - I'm about to replace a 20-year old tumbler, thinking that it's safer than waiting for it to act up and then seize, then I read THIS: http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334 I'm replacing it anyway, and hoping Neil's experience was a fluke... Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Darrell, You can use the new one any time you need it. Free. Under certain situations I would even deliver it to you and help you use it. I'm just that kind of guy (c: . Richard Always respecting his elders.. --- Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Hattaway, don't you remember telling me a long time ago that I had first 'dibs' on that tool Darrell ~ Richard Hattaway wrote: Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Richard Hattaway's Chain crimp tool cad drawings
Hi, Richard I would like to see what's not the same about my SirTools knockoff and the real MB tool. Also do you have any other plans of MB special tools for 123's, 126's, 617's or 616's ? When you say Cad drawings does that mean you have AutoCad files or similar? Please email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] with address to send SASE 8X10 envelope and details. Thanks, Russ H.
[MBZ] 72 250 no vacuum advance
Shipmates, This thread reminds me of an old Datsun that I tuned once. I only had a Haynes manual for it. Procedure for setting the timing was trial and error. Make a mark on the distributer and one on the mount, so that you can quickly make an adjustment + or - by sight. Time a run from 0-60, tweak, time another run, tweak, and repeat until happy. Leave it where the performance was best. Not a very fast way to do it, but no special tools required. Leave all the vacuum connections in place. In the case of the particular car that started this thread, I realize that first you've got to get it fixed to the point of reaching 60mph, but I'll bet that will be very soon. One can use the same method if interested in setting timing for best fuel mileage, IF you can consistently get same fuel quality from tank to tank, and have the patience to adjust the timing every time you fill up the tank. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
Hey Jim, when I wrote Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again I meant rolling not starting. She started fine. Put into drive and would either stall right away or when I started driving. Now I tried going up my driveway with with advance, no advance/retard and w/ retard. W/ retard was the worst. Acutaly going down hill in reverse pedal to the floor. W/ advance or line plugged the car would not move from a stopped position. The engine would not even rev up.like the cable was broken. I had to get to the bottom of my driveway and get a running start. Thanks for your help George -- Original message -- In a message dated 8/18/2005 6:41:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. George, As I mentioned, too much advance will result in hard starting, especially true as the engine warms up. Did you lock down the distributor before you drove it? If not, you may have had a massive change in timing. This could also be your loss of power problem, I hope! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles---BeginMessage--- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ---End Message---
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Front crank seal repair
In a message dated 8/18/2005 7:00:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List I am going to try an replace the front crank shaft seal on my 87 190D. I do not have the locking bracket, but was planning on using a strap wrench around the pulley itself. Is the pulley strong enough to take the squeezes of the strap wrench. or some othe method to hold the crankshaft. I would also like to know if the hub that slides onto the shaft is a sliding fit or a press fit. Just would like to know if there any other gotchas before I start. I called the dealer in Cincinnati and was quoted $510 for labor. Any other insight would be appreciated. On my 79, there is a hole through the balancer big enough to stick a 1/2 socket extension through and wedge it in the block. Don't know about the 190s, but worth a look. Also, something not mentioned lately, look into the possibility of more than one seal being available for you engine. The different part numbers offset the lip of the seal where it contacts the shaft so that you are not going to hit the worn spot created by the old seal. This is much better than the thin stainless steel sleeve, commonly available to cover worn cranks. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
These 240Ds are NOT glamorous cars, nor are they rare, powerful, or aesthetically pleasing to stare at. They are practical cars for folks with an admiration for German engineering at its best. Good examples are plentiful and readily available CHEAP if you have the patience. End of story. On 8/19/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my two cents. I don't know where you are at, but here in the Midwest (Kansas and Missouri), you can find these pretty easily for less money. I paid $1,500 (last year) for an 81 240D with 140,000. It was in great shape! Perfect paint and the a/c worked and no rust. Don Snook 90 300D 246K Kaleb wrote: Thats probably about right for retail price of one if there is no major rust problems, interior not trashed out, engine running good etc. As far as the glow plug light, those dont have the fast glow so it will take 30 seconds or more before the glow light goes out. Rory wrote: So is $1300 a good deal on a 240d? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
George, how did the exhaust look? Were you getting any black smoke with the car under load? I just wonder if your ignition system has troubles other than spark timing. Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. Brought her back to my place and stopped on the driveway. The driveway is a little incline, about 30'. No matter what I did, the car did not have any power to get up the hill. Flooring the pedal did nothing.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I never had any doubt about your character !!! THANX Darrell Richard Hattaway wrote: Darrell, You can use the new one any time you need it. Free. Under certain situations I would even deliver it to you and help you use it. I'm just that kind of guy (c: . Richard Always respecting his elders.. --- Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Hattaway, don't you remember telling me a long time ago that I had first 'dibs' on that tool Darrell ~ Richard Hattaway wrote: Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
To show the shift in priorities, go to the MBUSA website. If you have an account, go to the owners online section, then more news and events, then Momentum magazine, then choose the fall 2004 edition and then click on picture perfect and watch a short video on the Koschels's and their 1970 280SE with over i million miles. Compare this to the rest of the site which focuses almost entirely on luxury and speed. There has been a total shift in marketing and perhaps even ideology. It's a shame. I like AMG's that go 0-60 in 2.8 seconds too, but that's one market. MB's were never cheap, nor should they be, but you once were sure that your benz coupe/sedan/SL was the best (or nearly) that money could buy...not even close anymore. If I had to buy a new car, I would buy a Toyota. And that sucks b/c I would certainly rather to buy an MB. What worries me is when the cars that most of us have are very hard to find (10 years)...then what - a 320 CDI that is wired like the space shittle? (pun intended). It makes me want to stockpile 300D's for my kids. oh well. ranting done. Christopher --- Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Christopher said! Now if I can just find that low-mileage 123 that has been maintained by an anal-retentive grandfather. I think D-C misread their customer base. The bling bling is in vogue currently with the ricers, but I don't think the majority of D-C buyers appreciate it that much. There is NO excuse for poor quality. It results only when management does not care about quality. I worked in quality control for about 15 years, so I know a little about how it works. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:33 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post,Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign a car group plagued by quality problems, a severe handicap in the world of luxury automobiles, where customers expect powerful engines and complex electronics to work harmoniously. I don't want a luxury car, I want a reliable and long lasting one. I don't wan't a powerful engine, I want an efficient one. I hate complex electronics - manual sunroof is my dream...the network of brass rods on the 240D throttle is beautiful... ...DC is not the MB it used to be...total shift in priorities. Pity. Christopher --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: August 18, 2005 Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign By CARTER DOUGHERTY, International Herald Tribune FRANKFURT, Aug. 18 - Eckhard Cordes, the head of the Mercedes-Benz car division who last month lost the race to become DaimlerChrysler's chief executive, will resign from the automaker at the end of the month, the company announced today. Dieter Zetsche, the incoming chief executive, will take personal control of the troubled Mercedes group as of Sept. 1. Mr. Cordes, 54, will leave the company at his own request, Daimler said in a brief statement. Mr. Cordes offered to leave on July 28, soon after Daimler's chief executive, Jürgen E. Schrempp, announced his own departure at the end of the year. Mr. Zetsche, the German executive who brought the company's Chrysler division back to profitability after years of losses, was already scheduled to lead DaimlerChrysler effective Jan. 1, when Mr. Schrempp leaves. He joins General Motors' chief executive, Rick Wagoner, in shouldering multiple roles: Mr. Wagoner assumed direct control of G.M.'s North American operations this year. Daimler, which is based in Stuttgart, German, did not say when a permanent replacement for Mr. Cordes would be named. The early exit of Mr. Cordes will also move up planned changes at Chrysler. With Mr. Zetsche now leaving next month instead of late in the year, Chrysler's chief operating officer, Thomas LaSorda, will assume the leadership of the American automaker on Sept. 1. The departure of Mr. Cordes, the subject of much speculation since Mr. Schrempp's announcement, caps a power struggle that had pitted him against Mr. Zetsche for much of the past year, as industry analysts speculated who would succeed Mr. Schrempp, the chief executive tarnished by the weak performance of Daimler since its merger with Chrysler in 1998. DaimlerChrysler did little to dampen speculation that Mr. Cordes, who assumed control of Mercedes late last year, would not serve indefinitely under Mr. Zetsche. Days after the July 28 announcement, Mr. Cordes exercised options for, and immediately sold, a large quantity of Daimler stock. Daimler's shares crept upward before the announcement of Mr. Schrempp's resignation, and then
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
No black smoke. Mike Boerner suggested it might be the float. I'll be checking that tonight. Any other suggestions? Thanks George -- Original message -- George, how did the exhaust look? Were you getting any black smoke with the car under load? I just wonder if your ignition system has troubles other than spark timing. Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I moved the vacuum from retard to advance, RPM's are at 1800 at idle and 52' @ 4500 RPM w/Advance just like the manual states. Took her out for a spin. Everything was great until I reached the first stop. Then she stalled. took quite an effort to get her going again. I think because there was a little dip in the road. Brought her back to my place and stopped on the driveway. The driveway is a little incline, about 30'. No matter what I did, the car did not have any power to get up the hill. Flooring the pedal did nothing. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
Unfortunately, I have to concur. I have a 20 year old Mercedes. That 123 was the most reliable, longest service car of it's day. I have a 10 year old Mercedes. That 124 was the most reliable, longest service car of it's day. When it came time to buy a new car for my wife last year, I took one quick look at the Mercedes offering, and passed. Gary Thompson 1984 300D 1995 E320 2005 Lexus RX330
Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)
George, are you certain your float level is set to spec? and that the float valves open and there are no dead spiders in there (don't ask why I would check there, but I found a dead one inside the valve once. sounds like low/no fuel. do the accel pump jets squirt fuel when you open the throttle? also check the clear fuel filter to see if fuel is being moved, and the fuel return valve to make sure it's not stuck open (I think it only opens at idle) Mike Boerner 300SDL 300D, 1970 280S/8 sold in 1985
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
Christopher McCann wrote: What worries me is when the cars that most of us have are very hard to find (10 years)...then what - a 320 CDI that is wired like the space shittle? (pun intended). It makes me want to stockpile 300D's for my kids. oh well. ranting done. I'd rather the space shuttle. As of a few years ago, they were still greatly relying on the venerable 486 processor for most of the computer systems. Old, yes, but proven and reliable through the years. It may go into space, but the tech that gets it there is far from cutting edge. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I will cheerfully send an envelope and postage as well for a set of the drawings. Where would I send it? Randy in Winnipeg - you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is devinely interested, like willing to send an SASE 8X10 envelope e/w an ounce of postage). Like Dan says, for a one time shot, it is a bit steep. There are other ways to pein the pin, so to speak, and those who have done it know the tolerances on the master link are very very very tight. So one could use a hammer and an anvil and come out just fine. Heck, I bet some okie could even use a pair of channel locks. ( (c: ) So now the original is for sale. Presently folks, for the good of all, I am negotiating with a yet to be named supplier of MB parts who would like to rent it. Then we all get to use it on the cheap. Well, not me, cause I have another (c: . That's cool, because he's close to Camma and although un-named, he could share it with the master craftsman. For a fee, of course (c: Richard returning to the quiet while the deal develops. --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
