Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
redghost wrote: If we citizens of lesser washington refuse to pay for road improvements, the kalifonicators will leave or not bother to move here. I'm sure all the people who are on the Alaskan Way Viaduct when it collapses in the next earthquake will take comfort in that. I'm against I-912 because I'm from Michigan. I know how bad it can get if you ignore your infrastructure. The roads aren't going to magically fix themselves if people decide they don't want to pay for them. Of course, people who are pushing I-912 are doing so for reasons that have nothing to do with transportation. They're voting for it because they didn't get the revote they wanted in the last gubernatorial election, and they see this as a way of punishing Gregoire. The ironic thing is these are probably the same people who were calling Democrats sore losers after the 2000 election.
[MBZ] 300SL History Channel
Oh to my surprise as I turned on the History channel this morn and saw a special on the MB 300SL. What a machine. May have been on before and or may becoming to a cable company near you. For once I took control and did not allow that home channel with the folks doing $900,000 home improvements my wife always wants to watch. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis
Gabriel S. wrote: Breaking down is one thing but complaining because somone didn't respond to your error is another. I personally would never use mercedes roadside assistance but if I had a daughter or even a wife it would give me peace of mind. I've run out of fuel because the fuel gauge broke, before. It's not always driver error.
[MBZ] MS Mercedes
I'm working hurricane cleanup for the EPA in the Biloxi area. Part of my job includes contacting residents. Many of the folks I have met have lost everything. Homes and everything in them, jobs, and cars. There are still lots of families living in tents here, 8 weeks after the storm. The other day I was in a rural area, and came on another sad scene. The man I met worked on and restored Merdedes, mostly diesels. He had about 16, 300Ds, 300SDs, both 116s and 126s. Also a 300CD, and a 190, I think an E. He had a few gassers but mostly 300SDs. He moved them to a pasture that was 4' above his house. He ended up with about 16-20' of water. His house was destroyed, and all the cars were as well, including about another 3-4 cars worth of parts and interiors. He said only the 190 was not running at the time, most had excellent bodies and needed some pretty minor work on them. His plan was to retire in a few years, and restore them for fun and a bit of profit. They are probably now all only good for parts. He is living in an old travel trailer lent by his brother, no power, heat or water, and seemed more concerned about the loss of his cars and tools. I have been here for a week, and the devastation is unbelievable. Help in the rural areas is slow to come, and lots of folks are still living in tents and cars, waiting for FEMA housing. They are sick of hearing about NO, and we are all sick of hearing about FL. 9 weeks and mothers with small children are still in tents. In FL they are upset about a few days. Conditions are bad from Pascagoula to Pearlington. The Red Cross is here, but the outfit doing the best work that I have seen so far is the Salvation Army. This might not be the right place for it, but the folks in coastal MS need help. I see them everyday out there working, but there is so much work to do it is mind boggling. The Army is providing food and other material, and is a strong source of information in areas where lots of people are still without power. The people here are proud, and hard working, and are taking this in stride, but the scope of the disaster is unbelivable, and they feel they are being forgotten. I have no association with the Salvation Army, but I will never look at a bell ringer the same again. If you can help, do it. The disaster here did not end with the storm. It will likely go on for years.
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
Thats a common problem on those cars. Have to have new spring perches welded in. The 210 chassis all have rust issues. They were not rust proofed as well as the older cars. John Monocello wrote: I'm new to the list and am hoping someone has experience with this. I have a 1999 E320. It was raised in Texas, but spent last winter in Michigan. I was getting it ready for winter and noticed that half of the front drivers side top spring mount has rusted away where it meets the frame. I find this puzzling because the car has not seen salted roads until last year and I'm pretty thorough about maintenance and washing the undercarriage. The passenger side looks fine.This is not what I expected from a $40k car. Anyone know if this is a common problem? John Monocello ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] a couple more oil profit stories
Rick Knoble wrote: Top level executives generally get obscene bonuses when the workers get screwed. Check United, Delta American, ect. That's because they're paid to maximize shareholder value at the expense of everything else. When you cut wages, profits go up and so does shareholder value. The really brillant move was getting the taxpayers to take over their pension plans, thus improving their profit margin at the expense of the entire rest of the country. I expect GM to follow suit.
Re: [MBZ] gasoline and oil in the AKP-Wagen
Levi Smith wrote: That sound a bit scary to me... Kinda depends on your ambient temps for one thing, but even then it's iffy. Basically gas is your only thinner, and gas isn't something you want very much of in your diesel tank... I'm not confident in the long-term abilities of blending in general, but I would leave 50% diesel preferably, or at least Kero within the mix... Also, adding any amount of gasoline essentially makes the mixture as flammable as straight gasoline...plus the mixture will slowly thicken as the gasoline evaporates, and you'll be polluting the atmosphere with unburned hydrocarbons because a diesel's fuel tank has no vapor recovery system. On the whole, it doesn't strike me as a good idea.
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD hard throttle smoke
Levi Smith wrote: One other thing. If it is bad, what's the risk from continuing to drive it? Or will it start running much worse before I need to worry about further damage? Overheating is the main risk. Injecting hot combustion gases into the cooling system isn't helpful in cooling the engine. ;) Your oil can also become acidic if the coolant starts to get into it, and that can corrode bearings in the engine. The car may start to miss on one cylinder if enough compression starts to leak. In extreme cases the coolant can be pushed into the cylinder by residual pressure, after the engine is shut down, and hydrolock it. There's also the danger of eroding the sealing surface of the head, if you run it that way a really long time. Probably more of a danger on aluminum heads than cast iron, though.
Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use
Mike wondered: Hi Marshall can I use Mobil 1 ATF as power steering fluid in my 1985 300SD. Although I aspire to someday attain one gazillionth of Herr Doktor's knowledge, I am no Marshall. Be that as it may, I switched to M1 ATF in my power steering pump (after, of course, I ordered a new power steering filter from Rusty and renewed the one that was in pieces in the pumps sump) and it's a wonderful thing. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] center vents - no heat
John took the time to answer: I dunno about brainiac, but I am young! The project is slowly coming along... we (group senior design project) have made progress, but not made progress. SWEET!! I'm sure your diligence and knowledge, combined with the fact you're actually doing something that will benifit you (and us as well), will pay off. Good Luck. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? John, bummed in Michigan. On 10/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats a common problem on those cars. Have to have new spring perches welded in. The 210 chassis all have rust issues. They were not rust proofed as well as the older cars. John Monocello wrote: I'm new to the list and am hoping someone has experience with this. I have a 1999 E320. It was raised in Texas, but spent last winter in Michigan. I was getting it ready for winter and noticed that half of the front drivers side top spring mount has rusted away where it meets the frame. I find this puzzling because the car has not seen salted roads until last year and I'm pretty thorough about maintenance and washing the undercarriage. The passenger side looks fine.This is not what I expected from a $40k car. Anyone know if this is a common problem? John Monocello ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Special trans fluid
,I want to change the automatic transmission fluid in a '95 E300D (W124 with 6 cyl diesel). I remember a thread a few months (years?) ago about some updated ATF to use in this model. The newer stuff is supposed to avoid the characteristic delay, then clunk when starting from a stop that these trannies develop. I've been using Mobil 1 ATF, but that doesn't help. It is some official (and of course expensive) MB part, and IIRC it may the the fluid used in later modles. Anyone remember the part number or description? Can anyone vouch that this stuff really helps? When my '95 C280 was in it's first year, it developed a double engagement problem into first gear after having been in reverse. As part (or all of) the repair. The fluid came in a 5 liter container which was given to me with 1.5 liters remaining. The part number for this fluid is: A 001 989 23 03 11. The following is the English portion of the container label. This ATF may only be poured into automatic transmissions 722.3/4/5 in the event of problem double engagement jerk and after first engaging drive mode D. This fluid may not be used for initial filling. Note: only pour in these five liters; top up with A 000 989 92 03. Problem solved and did not return. Roger Ellingson/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Everyone read
How about if I reply on Banned? On 10/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the subject of name calling. It seems a few people think its appropriate to call people names, and basically start flame wars. If you want to do that, sign up for the banned list. On this list that is not acceptable. I have been pretty much just letting it slide and let things calm down on their own but no more. From this point forward, any post that is flaming or name calling will cause the poster to be put on immediate moderation status. In other words, their posts will have to be approved before they are allowed to go to the list. Im not naming any names at this point. We have already had one list member a few weeks ago who didnt get the point to stop (dont even remember the subject of the controversy now) and was put on moderation status. That person didnt seem to like that and left. I dont like it either but will do so to preserve the good fellowship of the list. Think before you type. If you even think it may be not fitting for the list, just dont post it. Kaleb List owner/admin. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
This topic has been discussed over and over and over and over ... and then it was discussed some more. This is REAL easy, dudes and dudettes. The Mercedes list is chartered (in sort of a Kaleb sort of way) to discuss diesel Benz cars. The Banned list is chartered (way before Kaleb took charge) as a combination frat house, political convention, and house of ill repute. Mercedes should be discussion about cars. ... Banned is for everything else, and then some. If you want to be lewd, crude and socially unacceptable, come on over to Banned. If you want to say something WITHOUT having to put OT: in the front of the subject line, come on over to Banned. If sailor language like the f word offends you, stay away from Banned. ... If you want to talk politics, come on over to Banned. ... And most importantly, if you are in the market for a house in Claremore email Regina at her home address. By the way, the f word need not be a part of your normal vocabulary to belong to Banned. I do NOT talk that way. You only need to be able to read it without freaking out. Don (retired sailor)
Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use
Mike Piles wrote: Hi Marshall can I use Mobil 1 ATF as power steering fluid in my 1985 300SD. Absolutely! Especially great in cold weather. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
Since you're getting picky about it, This list is also for vergasser Mercedes cars as well - Kaleb collapsed the lists into one, then broke out a few like SL and 108. All Mercedes discussion is welcome here. On 10/29/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mercedes list is chartered (in sort of a Kaleb sort of way) to discuss diesel Benz cars. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
John Monocello wrote: I'm new to the list and am hoping someone has experience with this. I have a 1999 E320. It was raised in Texas, but spent last winter in Michigan. I was getting it ready for winter and noticed that half of the front drivers side top spring mount has rusted away where it meets the frame. I find this puzzling because the car has not seen salted roads until last year and I'm pretty thorough about maintenance and washing the undercarriage. The passenger side looks fine.This is not what I expected from a $40k car. Anyone know if this is a common problem? Corrosion is a BIG problem with 210 chassis cars. Seems like Mercedes stopped galvanizing any metal when they introduced the 210. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
John Monocello wrote: Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? Carefully READ the factory warranty. That's ALL that Mercedes covers for subsequent owners. Original owners MAY get a little extra coverage. Check with your Mercedes dealer - if you have a GOOD relationship with the dealer, they may offer SOME help. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
My point was this -- if you want to avoid why did you say that then come on over to Banned. On Banned, the question is this: Is that legal? On 10/30/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you're getting picky about it, This list is also for vergasser Mercedes cars as well - Kaleb collapsed the lists into one, then broke out a few like SL and 108. All Mercedes discussion is welcome here. On 10/29/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mercedes list is chartered (in sort of a Kaleb sort of way) to discuss diesel Benz cars. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 115 package deal
I really need that tan interior On Friday, October 28, 2005, at 06:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1975-Mercedes- Benz-230-two-for-the-price-of- one_W0QQitemZ4585917918QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
Yea, but with Rgina constantly dragging Kleb upstairs for some quality time, as she has done since her ravaging in FL, we need to downgrade his list admin duties. I was trying to make it simple. Kleb - ask me sometime about Deb and the FL hottub. Hint -- wives were taking the husbands home. Don On 10/30/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you're getting picky about it, This list is also for vergasser Mercedes cars as well - Kaleb collapsed the lists into one, then broke out a few like SL and 108. All Mercedes discussion is welcome here.
Re: [MBZ] Special trans fluid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ,I want to change the automatic transmission fluid in a '95 E300D (W124 with 6 cyl diesel). I remember a thread a few months (years?) ago about some updated ATF to use in this model. The newer stuff is supposed to avoid the characteristic delay, then clunk when starting from a stop that these trannies develop. I've been using Mobil 1 ATF, but that doesn't help. It is some official (and of course expensive) MB part, and IIRC it may the the fluid used in later modles. Anyone remember the part number or description? Can anyone vouch that this stuff really helps? When my '95 C280 was in it's first year, it developed a double engagement problem into first gear after having been in reverse. As part (or all of) the repair. The fluid came in a 5 liter container which was given to me with 1.5 liters remaining. The part number for this fluid is: A 001 989 23 03 11. The following is the English portion of the container label. This ATF may only be poured into automatic transmissions 722.3/4/5 in the event of problem double engagement jerk and after first engaging drive mode D. This fluid may not be used for initial filling. Note: only pour in these five liters; top up with A 000 989 92 03. Problem solved and did not return. Double engagement is solved in fewer than 50% of the cases where the synthetic fluid is tried, but that's better than the alternative (which is a transmission valve body rebuild as I recall) according to the several mechanics I've talked to that have dealt with this problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Replacement key head
Rusty Cullens wrote: How much do they want for one? It shouldn't be more than $16.00, that is what we sell them for. They work very well. Looks like they have them for $10.40. I thought I remembered it being more than that.
Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
Not really just because she stole the election. It is because the WDOT gets cash and mismanages it, the legislature goes against the wishes of the electorate, legislature is not held accountable for mismanagement of funds and expected revenues will more than likely hit general fund, and not transportation improvements. We voted for a number of transportation options and the PROCESS, ends up killing them long before we get construction. The electorate no longer has faith in the elected, so we will vote down backdoor taxes and wholesale theft by governors, legislators, or county yahoos. WE do not salt our streets, we just let the rain erode them. More environmentally sane that way. On Saturday, October 29, 2005, at 04:07 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: If we citizens of lesser washington refuse to pay for road improvements, the kalifonicators will leave or not bother to move here. I'm sure all the people who are on the Alaskan Way Viaduct when it collapses in the next earthquake will take comfort in that. I'm against I-912 because I'm from Michigan. I know how bad it can get if you ignore your infrastructure. The roads aren't going to magically fix themselves if people decide they don't want to pay for them. Of course, people who are pushing I-912 are doing so for reasons that have nothing to do with transportation. They're voting for it because they didn't get the revote they wanted in the last gubernatorial election, and they see this as a way of punishing Gregoire. The ironic thing is these are probably the same people who were calling Democrats sore losers after the 2000 election. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
redghost wrote: It is because the WDOT gets cash and mismanages it, the legislature goes against the wishes of the electorate, legislature is not held accountable for mismanagement of funds and expected revenues will more than likely hit general fund, and not transportation improvements. If your issue is mismanagement of funds, wouldn't it make more sense to vote for I-900, which requires audits? It seems to me that saying, I think some of this money isn't getting spent on projects I like, therefore I'll vote for I-912 so *no* projects get any money is a bit counterproductive, to put it kindly. I have yet to see any I-912 supporter suggest a plan for the future, instead of just being obstructionist.
Re: [MBZ] 300SL History Channel
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=73502browseCategoryId=location=parentcatid=subcatid=
That program is available on DVD or VHS thru the History Channel website
shop for $24.95. They also have an excellent program on Porsche 911s if
you're so inclined -
The DVD/VHS last ~20 minutes longer than the shows on TV.
Every Sat morning at 7am they air a show called Automobiles where a
different major make is presented.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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you wrote: the History channel this morn and saw a
special on the MB 300SL. What a machine. May have been on before and or
may becoming to a cable company near you.
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
Sorry to make my presence here so short, but I am going to sell this piece of shit car and move on. It will be my first and last mercedes. I hope the rest of you do better than I did. I guess you don't always get what you pay for... John Monocello On 10/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Monocello wrote: Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? Carefully READ the factory warranty. That's ALL that Mercedes covers for subsequent owners. Original owners MAY get a little extra coverage. Check with your Mercedes dealer - if you have a GOOD relationship with the dealer, they may offer SOME help. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
Need to pass all the 9xx initiatives. Once there is no smoking, wasteful spending and roads getting excessive funding, we can discuss the correct way to appropriate funds, and spend them responsibly. IIRC, the whore in charge was not sure the gas tax passed by the last bleeding heart was being spent properly, then she comes up with this plan, after saying no new taxes? I will gladly obstruct waste and non representative taxation. I am not against fully funding road use with a fuel tax. If you are going to institute a tax, do it the right way, not by sneaking around and telling outright lies On Saturday, October 29, 2005, at 07:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: It is because the WDOT gets cash and mismanages it, the legislature goes against the wishes of the electorate, legislature is not held accountable for mismanagement of funds and expected revenues will more than likely hit general fund, and not transportation improvements. If your issue is mismanagement of funds, wouldn't it make more sense to vote for I-900, which requires audits? It seems to me that saying, I think some of this money isn't getting spent on projects I like, therefore I'll vote for I-912 so *no* projects get any money is a bit counterproductive, to put it kindly. I have yet to see any I-912 supporter suggest a plan for the future, instead of just being obstructionist. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
I picked up GUMP for less than $120, and she has been a joy to drive. Sorry you got screwed by getting one of the less well built new mercedes. On Saturday, October 29, 2005, at 07:22 PM, John Monocello wrote: Sorry to make my presence here so short, but I am going to sell this piece of shit car and move on. It will be my first and last mercedes. I hope the rest of you do better than I did. I guess you don't always get what you pay for... John Monocello On 10/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Monocello wrote: Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? Carefully READ the factory warranty. That's ALL that Mercedes covers for subsequent owners. Original owners MAY get a little extra coverage. Check with your Mercedes dealer - if you have a GOOD relationship with the dealer, they may offer SOME help. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:06:28 -0700 David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your issue is mismanagement of funds, wouldn't it make more sense to vote for I-900, which requires audits? It seems to me that saying, I think some of this money isn't getting spent on projects I like, therefore I'll vote for I-912 ... For those of us in the dark, what are I-900 and I-912? Are they new interstate bypasses? Are they anywhere near I-5? Craig
[MBZ] Auto Trans Fill Capacity
Howdy -
Got a new AT filter kit from Rusty and will be changing the ATF to M1 pretty
soon - how many quarts will I need?
For a 78 240D w/722.1 AT
Or, can I find the capacities on the net?
My original AT died last year and I had installed a used AT - the shop that
installed it put regular ATF and I need to go with M1 - had it in the orig
AT and loved the way it shifted!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
Craig McCluskey wrote: For those of us in the dark, what are I-900 and I-912? Are they new interstate bypasses? Are they anywhere near I-5? They're initiatives on the Washington ballot this year. I-912 eliminates a fuel tax (currently 3 cents, due to eventually be phased in to 9.5 cents, IIRC.) I-900 requires performance audits of government agencies.
Re: [MBZ] Taxes too low?
redghost wrote: Need to pass all the 9xx initiatives. Once there is no smoking, wasteful spending and roads getting excessive funding, we can discuss the correct way to appropriate funds, and spend them responsibly. Another way we disagree. I don't think enforcing no smoking rules is a particularly efficient use of government resources. There's nothing stopping anyone from creating a smoke-free bar, casino, or bowling alley, if there's really pent-up demand for such a thing. I-901 is a pretty clear example of unnecessary government intrusion, to me, especially the part of the rule that bans smoking within 25 feet of building entrances. That makes property owners responsible for conduct they can't really control, and would result in whole city blocks where you couldn't smoke anywhere on the sidewalk. It's ridiculous.
Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL
The battery light should come on and if not, your issue might be soemthing as simple as a burned out charge (battery) bulb. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Messing with my 560 again today. Basically its not charging at all. Put a different voltage regulator on it from another alternator I had laying around and it made no difference. Either both were bad(the replacement regulator had longer brushes) or something else is my problem. I guess I will probably just have to swap out the whole alternator. I did notice however that when the key is turned on, and before the engine is started, the only lights that come on in the cluster is the o2 light and the SRS light. None of the others, oil level, coolant level, battery etc come on. Im not sure exactly what the deal is with that. If the alternator was bad would it cause these lights to not come on? Or is there some other problem that doesnt allow the lights to come on and also keeps alternator from charging? Seems I heard somewhere that if the battery light does not come on either because its burned out or whatever the alternator will not charge. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use
Good to know. I just might do that to my own ride soon. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Piles wrote: Hi Marshall can I use Mobil 1 ATF as power steering fluid in my 1985 300SD. Absolutely! Especially great in cold weather. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Million dollar rodbender
Reserve not met at that... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/29/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mersedes-Benz-S350TD-of-V-Ushenko-president-of-Ukraine_W0QQitemZ4585911385QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ukraine Ebay seller on crack...or million dollar cars bend rods too...or who cares? No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] Special trans fluid
Thanks Roger. That may be exactly the stuff I'm looking for. Have to check my trans number to be sure. What is double engagement? Sounds like the step before bigamy. Ned Kleinhenz
Re: [MBZ] Boston area cars for you to ignore
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/car/107218482.html - 190Db This is tempting but I'd feel like a heel for driving it into the ground Just what I've been looking for! Unfortunately, it's too far away (and is in the rust belt). Craig
[MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
So with the help of the new neighbourhood 10-year-old, I was able to get 1/2 way done my water pump RR. I picked up a new refurb from the dealer today, test drove an R-500, and went home to do the pump. I eventually got all the accessory belts off. That AC unit is a real PITA to loosen up! The water pump came off and coolant spilled everywhere but I was smart enough to put a pan underneath first. Above 4-5 litres came out. PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:18 -0400 TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. Oops. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Well, I'd start by heating that bolt, too, and, after it's cooled down, use some Kroil and let it sit for awhile. Then use some more Kroil and visegrips. With the visegrips, I'd gingerly rock it back and forth (counterclockwise and clockwise) until it loosens up. Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? I sure would not. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use
I'm going to replace the steering gear box soon. way to much play. So I will not be adding fluid but totally replacing it. Mike Piles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of degcoast Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:17 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use But isn't part of the answer to first drain out the old ATF form the PS unit? Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use Absolutely! Especially great in cold weather. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Tim, if you get to the point where you *have* to use a screw extractor (sounds like you're approaching that point), use one like these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HHNKC/104-9734127-1604705?v=glancen=228013n=284507s=hiv=glance I've broken off several of the Easy-Out type in stubborn screws -- in fact, some mechanics I know use them as an absolute last resort *because* of the likelihood that the tool will break off and leave you in a worse state than before you tried it. I have never failed to remove a broken screw with the obelisk style extractors like those shown in the photo. The one caveat is not to drive them too deep into the pilot hole you've drilled, as they'll press the threads of the screw tighter against the sides of the hole. Russ Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:18 -0400 TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. Oops. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Well, I'd start by heating that bolt, too, and, after it's cooled down, use some Kroil and let it sit for awhile. Then use some more Kroil and visegrips. With the visegrips, I'd gingerly rock it back and forth (counterclockwise and clockwise) until it loosens up. Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? I sure would not. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
how many miles do you have on that thing? John Monocello wrote: Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Everyone read
whatever LT Don wrote: How about if I reply on Banned? On 10/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the subject of name calling. It seems a few people think its appropriate to call people names, and basically start flame wars. If you want to do that, sign up for the banned list. On this list that is not acceptable. I have been pretty much just letting it slide and let things calm down on their own but no more. From this point forward, any post that is flaming or name calling will cause the poster to be put on immediate moderation status. In other words, their posts will have to be approved before they are allowed to go to the list. Im not naming any names at this point. We have already had one list member a few weeks ago who didnt get the point to stop (dont even remember the subject of the controversy now) and was put on moderation status. That person didnt seem to like that and left. I dont like it either but will do so to preserve the good fellowship of the list. Think before you type. If you even think it may be not fitting for the list, just dont post it. Kaleb List owner/admin. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
Well the SL and 108 lists are pretty pointless I guess, not much going on with them. OK Don wrote: Since you're getting picky about it, This list is also for vergasser Mercedes cars as well - Kaleb collapsed the lists into one, then broke out a few like SL and 108. All Mercedes discussion is welcome here. On 10/29/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mercedes list is chartered (in sort of a Kaleb sort of way) to discuss diesel Benz cars. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 115 package deal
Go for it dude. redghost wrote: I really need that tan interior On Friday, October 28, 2005, at 06:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1975-Mercedes- Benz-230-two-for-the-price-of- one_W0QQitemZ4585917918QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Bizarre-ness
go get it. redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/zip/106736731.html --FREE 71 220D On Saturday, October 29, 2005, at 03:41 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: I haven't see that one. On 10/28/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olympia, WA On Friday, October 28, 2005, at 06:19 AM, Mike Canfield wrote: Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rusted front spring mount?
Thats no joke. redghost wrote: I picked up GUMP for less than $120, and she has been a joy to drive. Sorry you got screwed by getting one of the less well built new mercedes. On Saturday, October 29, 2005, at 07:22 PM, John Monocello wrote: Sorry to make my presence here so short, but I am going to sell this piece of shit car and move on. It will be my first and last mercedes. I hope the rest of you do better than I did. I guess you don't always get what you pay for... John Monocello On 10/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Monocello wrote: Any chance Mercedes will cover all or part of the repair? Any suggestions on how to persuade them? Carefully READ the factory warranty. That's ALL that Mercedes covers for subsequent owners. Original owners MAY get a little extra coverage. Check with your Mercedes dealer - if you have a GOOD relationship with the dealer, they may offer SOME help. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL
Well I ended up swapping out the alternator and that solved the charging problem but my lights are still not coming on. They are not burned out because after the engine was running turned on headlights to see if the light out indicator came on(have a headlight out) which it did. What is it that is supposed to make all the lights come on before startup? Tom Hargrave wrote: The battery light should come on and if not, your issue might be soemthing as simple as a burned out charge (battery) bulb. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Messing with my 560 again today. Basically its not charging at all. Put a different voltage regulator on it from another alternator I had laying around and it made no difference. Either both were bad(the replacement regulator had longer brushes) or something else is my problem. I guess I will probably just have to swap out the whole alternator. I did notice however that when the key is turned on, and before the engine is started, the only lights that come on in the cluster is the o2 light and the SRS light. None of the others, oil level, coolant level, battery etc come on. Im not sure exactly what the deal is with that. If the alternator was bad would it cause these lights to not come on? Or is there some other problem that doesnt allow the lights to come on and also keeps alternator from charging? Seems I heard somewhere that if the battery light does not come on either because its burned out or whatever the alternator will not charge. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL
Kaleb, The initial alternator excite current comes through the charge light and if the light does not come on then your charging circiuit will never work right. Some alternators will self start most of the time and I suspect that the alternator you installed is one of these. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:50 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Well I ended up swapping out the alternator and that solved the charging problem but my lights are still not coming on. They are not burned out because after the engine was running turned on headlights to see if the light out indicator came on(have a headlight out) which it did. What is it that is supposed to make all the lights come on before startup? Tom Hargrave wrote: The battery light should come on and if not, your issue might be soemthing as simple as a burned out charge (battery) bulb. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Messing with my 560 again today. Basically its not charging at all. Put a different voltage regulator on it from another alternator I had laying around and it made no difference. Either both were bad(the replacement regulator had longer brushes) or something else is my problem. I guess I will probably just have to swap out the whole alternator. I did notice however that when the key is turned on, and before the engine is started, the only lights that come on in the cluster is the o2 light and the SRS light. None of the others, oil level, coolant level, battery etc come on. Im not sure exactly what the deal is with that. If the alternator was bad would it cause these lights to not come on? Or is there some other problem that doesnt allow the lights to come on and also keeps alternator from charging? Seems I heard somewhere that if the battery light does not come on either because its burned out or whatever the alternator will not charge. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Special trans fluid
Thanks Roger. That may be exactly the stuff I'm looking for. Have to check my trans number to be sure. What is double engagement? Sounds like the step before bigamy. Ned Kleinhenz The double engagement fault happened (for me) always on the first start of the day. Back into the street, select D and the trans engages first gear normally, the car starts forward and then releases and immediately engages first again with a jerk. (No jokes, please). The dealer knew what to do right off the bat. RLE/Seattle
[MBZ] SLS spheres
What's the charge pressure on the 2.3-16V SLS accumulators? Rusty's web page shows the same part number for 2.3-16V and S123 300TD, a different part number from the S124 300TD. Even if the spheres quickly die after I pump them up, I'd find out if the rest of the system was functional if the refilled spheres worked temporarily. I'd feel much better about paying $200 for new ones if I knew the control valve etc were functioning. Fortunately, ride height seems approximately correct (bottom edge line of doors about 1-1.5 inch below rear hub centerline).
[MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
Cool weather is here.
I note that my car fires very quick. It seems to be blowing much more
smoke (White) than it did last year. Runs fine. G/P are about 20Kmi
old.
Thoughts?
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 233 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 192 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 77 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
Re: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
Peter, first try Italian tune up. Get it out there on intersate 291, 91,
or 84 and push it hard for 30 or 40 miles. These cars love that. See what
happens.
I have a 77 300D that always smokes white on start up but runs fine and does
not smoke once rolling good.
Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
- Original Message -
From: Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:25 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
Cool weather is here.
I note that my car fires very quick. It seems to be blowing much more
smoke (White) than it did last year. Runs fine. G/P are about 20Kmi
old.
Thoughts?
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 233 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 192 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 77 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
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Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Kroil? I take it that is penetrating oil? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/30/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:18 -0400 TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. Oops. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Well, I'd start by heating that bolt, too, and, after it's cooled down, use some Kroil and let it sit for awhile. Then use some more Kroil and visegrips. With the visegrips, I'd gingerly rock it back and forth (counterclockwise and clockwise) until it loosens up. Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? I sure would not. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Problem is, I can't get a drill in front of this bolt to drill a pilot hole for the extractor. I may have to go with the heat and penetrating oil method first. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/30/05, Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, if you get to the point where you *have* to use a screw extractor (sounds like you're approaching that point), use one like these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HHNKC/104-9734127-1604705?v=glancen=228013n=284507s=hiv=glance I've broken off several of the Easy-Out type in stubborn screws -- in fact, some mechanics I know use them as an absolute last resort *because* of the likelihood that the tool will break off and leave you in a worse state than before you tried it. I have never failed to remove a broken screw with the obelisk style extractors like those shown in the photo. The one caveat is not to drive them too deep into the pilot hole you've drilled, as they'll press the threads of the screw tighter against the sides of the hole. Russ Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:18 -0400 TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. Oops. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Well, I'd start by heating that bolt, too, and, after it's cooled down, use some Kroil and let it sit for awhile. Then use some more Kroil and visegrips. With the visegrips, I'd gingerly rock it back and forth (counterclockwise and clockwise) until it loosens up. Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? I sure would not. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Special trans fluid
In a message dated 10/30/2005 2:19:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The double engagement fault happened (for me) always on the first start of the day. Back into the street, select D and the trans engages first gear normally, the car starts forward and then releases and immediately engages first again with a jerk. (No jokes, please). The dealer knew what to do right off the bat. RLE/Seattle What was the fix, and how much did the fix cost, if I may ask? Thank you, Jay 95 MB E300D 93K The new baby 83 MB 300D 241K The silver coffin 99 Mercury Sable wagon 24 valve 86K Cannondale SR500 Allentown,Pa. http://www.thecornerstonefamily.org/
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Kroil? I take it that is penetrating oil? Tim 1982 300TD Moby This is the best. I have found no better penetrating oil. And remember heat, patience and time are your friends when working with broken bolts. http://www.kanolabs.com/ https://www.protoolsdirect.com/product.asp?sku=30469 http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/aerokroil.htm Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL
so if the charging light is burned out it could cause the alternator to not work right which would cause the other dash lights to not come on? Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The initial alternator excite current comes through the charge light and if the light does not come on then your charging circiuit will never work right. Some alternators will self start most of the time and I suspect that the alternator you installed is one of these. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:50 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Well I ended up swapping out the alternator and that solved the charging problem but my lights are still not coming on. They are not burned out because after the engine was running turned on headlights to see if the light out indicator came on(have a headlight out) which it did. What is it that is supposed to make all the lights come on before startup? Tom Hargrave wrote: The battery light should come on and if not, your issue might be soemthing as simple as a burned out charge (battery) bulb. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Messing with my 560 again today. Basically its not charging at all. Put a different voltage regulator on it from another alternator I had laying around and it made no difference. Either both were bad(the replacement regulator had longer brushes) or something else is my problem. I guess I will probably just have to swap out the whole alternator. I did notice however that when the key is turned on, and before the engine is started, the only lights that come on in the cluster is the o2 light and the SRS light. None of the others, oil level, coolant level, battery etc come on. Im not sure exactly what the deal is with that. If the alternator was bad would it cause these lights to not come on? Or is there some other problem that doesnt allow the lights to come on and also keeps alternator from charging? Seems I heard somewhere that if the battery light does not come on either because its burned out or whatever the alternator will not charge. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL
Obviously, a burned out charging light will cause that light to not come on but I don't remember if it affects the others. Maybe another list member can tell you. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:17 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL so if the charging light is burned out it could cause the alternator to not work right which would cause the other dash lights to not come on? Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The initial alternator excite current comes through the charge light and if the light does not come on then your charging circiuit will never work right. Some alternators will self start most of the time and I suspect that the alternator you installed is one of these. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:50 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Well I ended up swapping out the alternator and that solved the charging problem but my lights are still not coming on. They are not burned out because after the engine was running turned on headlights to see if the light out indicator came on(have a headlight out) which it did. What is it that is supposed to make all the lights come on before startup? Tom Hargrave wrote: The battery light should come on and if not, your issue might be soemthing as simple as a burned out charge (battery) bulb. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL Messing with my 560 again today. Basically its not charging at all. Put a different voltage regulator on it from another alternator I had laying around and it made no difference. Either both were bad(the replacement regulator had longer brushes) or something else is my problem. I guess I will probably just have to swap out the whole alternator. I did notice however that when the key is turned on, and before the engine is started, the only lights that come on in the cluster is the o2 light and the SRS light. None of the others, oil level, coolant level, battery etc come on. Im not sure exactly what the deal is with that. If the alternator was bad would it cause these lights to not come on? Or is there some other problem that doesnt allow the lights to come on and also keeps alternator from charging? Seems I heard somewhere that if the battery light does not come on either because its burned out or whatever the alternator will not charge. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-NIB-2003-Mercedes-MBE-900-MBE900-Engine_W0QQitemZ4586126281QQcategoryZ50466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 07:57:29 -0600 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kroil? I take it that is penetrating oil? Tim 1982 300TD Moby This is the best. I have found no better penetrating oil. And remember heat, patience and time are your friends when working with broken bolts. http://www.kanolabs.com/ https://www.protoolsdirect.com/product.asp?sku=30469 http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/aerokroil.htm What he said. Accept no substitutes. Craig
Re: [MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D
Notice that the engine peaks at 2300 RPM? This is not a good car engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:11 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-NIB-2003-Mercedes-MBE-900-MBE900-Engine_W 0QQitemZ4586126281QQcategoryZ50466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] I think I should trade up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-Mercedes-Benz-600-SWB-1971-Best-offered-in-over-20-year_W0QQitemZ4586235234QQcategoryZ6333QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] this looks nice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-TRUE-TIMECAPSULE-MERCEDES-240D-1-OWNER-DIESEL-300D-190D_W0QQitemZ4586206534QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] repair DVD?
Are the repair CD's coming out on DVD now? Saw a 126 repair DVD on ebay, was just curious. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] repair DVD?
Kaleb, I know that the WIS is on DVD's not sure about the repair CD's. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Are the repair CD's coming out on DVD now? Saw a 126 repair DVD on ebay, was just curious.
Re: [MBZ] NOW: reality, WAS: ADMIN, Everyone read
There are still some SL specific posts - you're just jealous. On 10/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the SL and 108 lists are pretty pointless I guess, not much going on with them. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
My 123 isn't home to look at, but could you get the drill in there if you pulled the radiator? It's not much work now that you've drained the antifreeze. THere are also right angle adapters for drills, though I've never used one. On 10/30/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is, I can't get a drill in front of this bolt to drill a pilot hole for the extractor. I may have to go with the heat and penetrating oil method first. Tim 1982 300TD Moby -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D
It's all in the gearing -- a nice new 7 speed auto would be nice behind it, if it could survive the torque. Wonder if it will bolt up to an auto tranny? I would probably do better in a 126 than a 123 -- - Don will still need to up grade! On 10/30/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the engine peaks at 2300 RPM? This is not a good car engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com Subject: [MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-NIB-2003-Mercedes-MBE-900-MBE900-Engine_W 0QQitemZ4586126281QQcategoryZ50466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] I think I should trade up
Definitely, I think you should! On 10/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-Mercedes-Benz-600-SWB-1971-Best-offered-in-over-20-year_W0QQitemZ4586235234QQcategoryZ6333QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
The 603 is a notorious white smoker cold. Run the GP ten seconds or so extra after the lamp goes out and this will help. I let mine idle thirty seconds or so before putting it in gear, and drive very slowly until it stops rattling when starting off cold (on the assumption that letting the piston crowns heat up slowly is a good idea). VW TDIs are worse. Peter
[MBZ] Pump Bolt
Hi, All. There are external easy outs that grip the outside of the bolt that have worked okay for me. Heat the remains as much as possible and lots of Kroil, PB Blaster etc., a modicum of luck, and a clean and trouble-free installation can be yours. I'd also use some anti-seize on the cleaned up threads. YMMV. Good Luck Fred Moir Lynn MA (In the Rust Belt) 84 190D 85 190TD 87 190Dt
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Fill Capacity
Typically 8 quarts for a 722.x if you drain the torque converter, 5 if you don't (although I would recommend draining it if you are changing to M1). Peter
Re: [MBZ] Marshall can I use
Mike Piles wrote: I'm going to replace the steering gear box soon. way to much play. So I will not be adding fluid but totally replacing it. It's unusual for the play to be in the box (if it's properly adjusted). Unless someone NEVER changes the PS fluid and filter or improperly adjusts the box, they usually last the life of the car. Used steering boxes are available - there is little demand for them. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Fill Capacity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Got a new AT filter kit from Rusty and will be changing the ATF to M1 pretty soon - how many quarts will I need? For a 78 240D w/722.1 AT Or, can I find the capacities on the net? The fluid quantity of a 722.1 transmission in a 123.123 240D when the torque converter is drained and the filter is replaced is 4.8 liters (5 qt). The total capacity for a dry system is 6.1 liters. Fill in 3 qt, then start and run the engine (to fill the converter) and shift thru the gears and add the remaining fluid. Finally check the fluid after driving for 15-20 minutes (so the fluid reaches full operating temp) finally. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] repair DVD?
Upon looking again I think its some generic something or other. Russ Williams wrote: Kaleb, I know that the WIS is on DVD's not sure about the repair CD's. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Are the repair CD's coming out on DVD now? Saw a 126 repair DVD on ebay, was just curious. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I think I should trade up
Do they make cinderblocks in that size? -MMM-
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Rick wrote This is the best. I have found no better penetrating oil. And remember heat, patience and time are your friends when working with broken bolts. http://www.kanolabs.com/; Maybe, but I think I am going to give their SiliKroil a slight edge. I find myself reaching for that more and more. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
Peter Frederick wrote: The 603 is a notorious white smoker cold. Run the GP ten seconds or so extra after the lamp goes out and this will help. I let mine idle thirty seconds or so before putting it in gear, and drive very slowly until it stops rattling when starting off cold (on the assumption that letting the piston crowns heat up slowly is a good idea). Peter correctly notes that the OM603.96 engine is notorious for white smoke in cold weather. 602 engines are not nearly as bad and 601 engine are considerably better yet than either of their bigger brothers about NOT smoking. I believe there are several factors that contribute to this, but the main one is that the exactly the same power source and path (the resistance of the wiring to the relay) supply power to 4, 5 and 6 plow plugs. I suspect that the 6 plugs in the 603 engine simply don't get as hot as fast as the 4 plugs in a 601 engine (that draws only 66% of the current) or the 5 plugs in a 602 engine (that draws 83% of the current of a 603). There is also the fact that exactly the same starter and battery is turning these 4, 5 and 6 cylinder engines and the load on starter turning the 603 is greater than the load on the 602 or 601 engine so the 603 engine WILL turn over somewhat more slowly! With all of these engines, as the glow plug relay ages, the duration before the light shuts off declines as the capacitor in the timing circuit ages. This is NOT a linear phenomena and seldom appears in a regularly driven car before it reaches 12-15 years. In cars that are NOT driven for a period of time (months or years) the delay may be sudden and quite marked in even a relatively new car or even a car with a new relay. The failure usually occurs when the capacitor is NOT energized regularly (daily or weekly) and can happen to a NEW relay that sits on the dealer's shelf for months or years before being put into service. Glow plug relays (new or used) do NOT have a long shelf life. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] learn something new everyday
On my 85 300D, doors were locked with central locking via drivers door. The passenger front door was not fully closed so didnt lock. Went to open it and the horn starts going off. WTF? I have never heard of any 123's with factory alarms. Sure enough I checked the owners manual and its got a section on it. I have NEVER heard of 123's with alarms before. WOW. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, doors were locked with central locking via drivers door. The passenger front door was not fully closed so didnt lock. Went to open it and the horn starts going off. WTF? I have never heard of any 123's with factory alarms. Sure enough I checked the owners manual and its got a section on it. I have NEVER heard of 123's with alarms before. WOW. It was an option in Euro cars, but I didn't know it was available in the US (it was in 126s). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] I think I should trade up
I think I'm gonna make some drink holders for the wagon, maybe sell them for $15,000 apiece, use some matched veneer, etc. You too can enjoy the fabulous touches of the most elegant Mercedes on the road today. --R OK Don wrote: Definitely, I think you should! On 10/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-Mercedes-Benz-600-SWB-1971-Best-offered-in-over-20-year_W0QQitemZ4586235234QQcategoryZ6333QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Harry wrote Maybe, but I think I am going to give their SiliKroil a slight edge. I find myself reaching for that more and more. I will have to give it a try. The graphite stuff looks promising too. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
[MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!
I replaced the two levers in the vacuum switch on the valve cover of my car, today. They were both worn through. I think this is the biggest payoff I've ever gotten for a 10-minute repair. Partial-throttle shifts are much firmer, now, with no more flaring on the 2-3 upshift. Judging from the cams that operate the switches, and the hose routing, one of these is supposed to soften shifts when the throttle linkage is at idle, probably to avoid lurching when slowing to a stop. With the lever worn through, it was softening all the shifts, all the time. This explains why, before I did this, my tranny only really shifted right at idle and at full throttle. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Well I've gone about it a different way. We don't have Kroil up here, so I picked up some Gunk Liquid Wrench penetrating oil. Didn't help at all, and the vise grips kept slipping off. I noticed that there's a larger ring or housing that the water pump bolts to. I ended up removing that and cleaning the grease off with a Castol motorcycle metal cleaner. Worked wonders for the grease. Anyway, I also went out and picked up a 1/8-1/4 screw extractor now that I can use my drill without restriction. I'm going to try that next now that the part is clean. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/30/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 123 isn't home to look at, but could you get the drill in there if you pulled the radiator? It's not much work now that you've drained the antifreeze. THere are also right angle adapters for drills, though I've never used one.
Re: [MBZ] this is what lt don needs to speed up his 240D
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:31:07 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all in the gearing -- a nice new 7 speed auto would be nice behind it, if it could survive the torque. Wonder if it will bolt up to an auto tranny? I would probably do better in a 126 than a 123 -- - Don will still need to up grade! The (almost) 1500 pound weight will be a problem, too. Craig
Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday
I know the US 126's had it in 85, maybe 84, but didnt know 123's did. I guess now we know. I did notice both the 85 123's I have had both had little contact switches under the hood. Guess now I know why. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, doors were locked with central locking via drivers door. The passenger front door was not fully closed so didnt lock. Went to open it and the horn starts going off. WTF? I have never heard of any 123's with factory alarms. Sure enough I checked the owners manual and its got a section on it. I have NEVER heard of 123's with alarms before. WOW. It was an option in Euro cars, but I didn't know it was available in the US (it was in 126s). Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1. Any one have experience with this please. 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later in 1982 as a kit? Any words of wisdom please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
Tom, I don't know much about it other than you should pass it up and tell me how to contact the owner right awayLOLOL..I loved my 240DA turbo would have made it near perfect! Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1. Any one have experience with this please. 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later in 1982 as a kit? Any words of wisdom please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
it would be aftermarket unless its a euro model. Aftermarket turbos will blow the engine up sooner rather than later. Tom Scordato wrote: I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1. Any one have experience with this please. 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later in 1982 as a kit? Any words of wisdom please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
If the car was intended to have more power, the Mercedes engineers would have put it there. On 10/30/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Scordato wrote: I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1. Any one have experience with this please. All the reports I've had from mechanics (except for one ;-) say they destroy engines rapidly. 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. NO! I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later in 1982 as a kit? That's correct. Mercedes was able to up power 50% by adding a turbo (80 hp to 120 hp in the OM617 engine) with NO loss of longevity while the aftermarket turbos were limited to about 15% and engine longevity was seriously compromised. The turbo engines share VERY few parts with the non-turbo versions. Any words of wisdom please. There is a 240D turbo that's commonly available in India - uses appropriate turbo engine parts and I'm told they have more power than a non-turbo OM617 engine. If you need more power than a 240D delivers, seriously consider a 300D. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
