Re: [MBZ] 79 450SL oil change ?s
Mobil 1 in either 10W30 or 15W50 will work fine -- for summer, I'd definitely use the 15W50. The 0W40 is probably too thin. The oil filter canister sticks straight down just in front of the cross-member on the passenger side. You must remove the center bolt and drop the canister to get the filter out, it's messy. Easy to reach, though. Make sure you put the filter in right side up, it will go in both ways and if you put it in upsidedown, you get unfiltered oil circulating. Spring stays in the bottom of the canister, and the bolt will too. Peter
[MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 00:41:55 2005 Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.204]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea0Vn-0001TV-CE for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:41:55 + Received: from voyager.net (d94.as2.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.159.223]) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id jAA0fpg7074080 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:41:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:41:33 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:41:55 - Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel.
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
= uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 00:51:15 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea0ep-0002OY-KA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:15 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so450986wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:51:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oZ7c1rouEa7CEguNlRBf6dy56vg8G8KkS42j4qZtAm94AcjiaC9ya4+EeyV3Ic3MLBC/LxsuRL6dH3DOp7KvmXPNXeFBopxolV+JamH6lbjhepNb2GCwRlZB3krp5ZzJkSD34yGTtCYjfrnyUOASRJK6jr5qJp0aDNFrXe+QfgE= Received: by 10.54.137.9 with SMTP id k9mr133177wrd; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.133.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:51:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:08 + From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:15 - We are used to it. How's my honorary granddaughter? On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =3D uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power =3D more fuel =3D uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotk=E4ppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr=FCfenlastwagen =3D Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
hay look the purpose of this list should be to help answer questions problems will never be fixed and knowledge will not passed if people dont ask questions ( dhe hell good is this list for if we cant put our heads together!) oh yeah misadjusted vales can also cause engine damage collins 1985 500 sec In a message dated 11/9/2005 7:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-)
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:00:25 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-21-236.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.21.236] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea0nh-0003bm-JB for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:00:25 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:00:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:00:26 - same wrenches, you adjust cold, not hot. Christopher McCann wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Compression Tester 240D
Thank you Marshall. I will warm it up before I check it. Will removing the glow plugs while they are hot damage the threads? John I. Any advice on this procedure would be very much appreciated. Mercedes set acceptable pressures for NEW engines in the 24-30 bar range (350-435 psi). Most used engines in good conditions will meet or even exceed these numbers. The lower limit that Mercedes sets is 18 bar (260 psi) but in fact anything much below 20-21 bar (290-305 psi) will likely be VERY hard to start in cold weather. All of the cylinders within the engine must be within 3 bar (44 psi)! Before testing, valves MUST be checked to insure that none are tight. Tight valves of course lower compression. These measurements should be made with the engine at operating temperature. Cold compression tests will be MUCH more variable and much less useful in their diagnostic relevance. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Feeler gauges are generic. Best are the ones that are marked metric and SAE . On 11/9/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
cold, OK...I think I got confused with Marshall's comment in another message on cold COMPRESSION TESTING being variable...now that I think about it, I remember asking my Indy about this once and he said, No we don't adjust them cold, we adjust them at room temperature. HAHAHA! same wrenches - sweet. Thanks! Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same wrenches, you adjust cold, not hot. Christopher McCann wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:14:58 2005 Received: from mta2.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.178]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea11m-0004zP-82 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:14:58 + Received: from your03667082de ([68.233.126.219]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:18 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe:
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 79 450SL oil change ?s
Just a sec... anything xW-30 is really too thin, and not approved for summer use at least in any MB owner's manual I've seen. In order, the preferred M-1 weights would be 5W-40, 15W-50, and (least preferred) 0W-40. All the other stuff (xW-30 or xW-20) is for little high-revving ricer motors, not MB engines (at least through the 90's.) =) -- Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:06:02 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 79 450SL oil change ?s Mobil 1 in either 10W30 or 15W50 will work fine -- for summer, I'd definitely use the 15W50. The 0W40 is probably too thin.
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher McCann wrote: = uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. And will start more and more poorly as temps drop. May not start at all when temps get much below freezing. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher happily typed: She is doing well. Congrats, pappy. They pronounced it mer-said-is - don't know if that is correct. Yes, that is exactly correct. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
You need 2 people, one to feed chain, one to turn the engine over. First things first though, why are you changing it? Have you checked to see if its stretched? Tom Scordato wrote: Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required. Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or would be worthy or interested in helping. Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher McCann wrote: cold, OK...I think I got confused with Marshall's comment in another message on cold COMPRESSION TESTING being variable...now that I think about it, I remember asking my Indy about this once and he said, No we don't adjust them cold, we adjust them at room temperature. HAHAHA! same wrenches - sweet. Remember, it takes an engine about eight hours after it's been shut down before it reaches room temp! Even running it for 20-30 sec will warm the engine enough to prevent proper, even adjustment. If you expect temps to go below zero (F) the intake valve clearance needs to change from 0.004 to 0.006 (that's 0.10 mm to 0.15 mm). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Compression Tester 240D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Marshall. I will warm it up before I check it. Will removing the glow plugs while they are hot damage the threads? NO! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
That is the most disgusting thing I have ever seenMike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beer enema uhh dude, wrong list redghost wrote: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1131535942/Beer_And_A_Butt -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I am an outsider now
Are you required to be certified for the upgraded Coast Guard Land Yacht license in order to navigate that barge? On 11/9/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow listers, Because I sold my 90 300D and I am still looking for a replacement benz, I had to purchase something to drive. Yesterday, I bought a 1992 Oldsmobile 98 Regency. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
Kaleb said Have you checked to see if its stretched? No Kaleb not yet I will. Valves due for adjustment in three months or so. 10-4 on the two man job. Tom - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement You need 2 people, one to feed chain, one to turn the engine over. First things first though, why are you changing it? Have you checked to see if its stretched? Tom Scordato wrote: Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required. Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or would be worthy or interested in helping. Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Carfax LESSONS LEARNED
Just for your info Carfax has some flaws. I bought a 1981 MB 240D last November, advertised with 71,000 miles. Did a car fax check, was fine, mileage is confirmed ok. Shipped her cross country. With in five minutes of having it home rifled through glove box. Found old maintenance records as well as the name address of the second owner who owned car for 1987-2004 years. He informed me of the whole history of the auto, as well as sending me a copy of the odometer (should be called true mileage) disclosure form. Over 250,000 miles. The 1987-2004 Owner of the car sent it to me. Trouble was this owner who I spoke with replaced odometer with a new one set to 0 70K miles or so ago and never renewed the title/registration in his state. Car fax just went by the latest registration. which was from the guy I bought it from. He owned the car for a month or so. Just a sea story and word of caution: extreme claims of low mileage require extreme proof Look for maintenance records, which matach up mileage and good service practices, where the car was serviced, and talk to past owners. Talk to past mechanics. Do not be bashfull. Push for the information. It took me over a year and many visits to the court to resolve my issue. It was a real battle. I thought I had an out with Carfax's buy back guarantee. They just laughed at me. Since it was not properly retitled when the odometer was changed out they were not liable. Beware... Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax Help Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300D-T VIN WDBEB28D8MB417104 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBEB28D8MB417104 Title Check No records found Problem Check Records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Problems Found! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 16 records for this 1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300 SERIES 300D-T. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 1995-11-21 belleville, IL registration event/renewal 1996-06-19 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1996-06-21 center harbor, NH 70300 title 1996-12-27 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1997-11-03 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1998-10-30 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1998-11-04 center harbor, NH 104078 title 1998-11-04 center harbor, NH exceeds mechanical limits 1999-05-28 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 2000-06-05 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 2003-05-22 meredith, NH registration event/renewal 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL title 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL registration event/renewal 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL excluded/exempt 2004-10-07 fort myers beach, FL registration event/renewal 2004-10-07 fort myers beach, FL excluded/exempt Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Title Vehicle had title registration event
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
the hell happened to just having a few friends by some bbq maybe watch a little football... some brew ...? normal stuff ... why did u post this? jesus man sup wit that? collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:47:57 2005 Received: from web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.64]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea1Xh-00088B-MP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:47:57 + Received: (qmail 35443 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2005 01:47:53 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F5abaIcKdn84sqhQT8gFN2qW78mDY+DP04wtalAwjXCZ8vNO2GTR7f9/QUHt0g8bksmqlAT8uXxNNKfSfM9xSOAWyc4/Y6UEv0te6HC9UKKWkkb/w7KV3U8gbRWTt6EnHoxP3qE4hFbPnXtPUqdrTV+zNp//N86dxLrNOuGIIDw= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:47:53 PST Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:47:57 - thanks for the congrats and the confirmation on pronunciation...Liesel Mercedes...hmmm Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher happily typed: She is doing well. Congrats, pappy. They pronounced it mer-said-is - don't know if that is correct. Yes, that is exactly correct. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
damn, this was supposed to go to Banned, I will have to stop with the new meds and email until I get a better grip on what I send SO SORRY PLEASE IGNORE On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 02:14 PM, redghost wrote: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1131535942/Beer_And_A_Butt -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
IT WAS MEANT FOR BANNED not this group On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 02:20 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: ...and you poke fun at the French? On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1131535942/Beer_And_A_Butt -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Valves don't close, combustion gases leak, burning valves and seats, possible cracking the head. On 11/9/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damage - how? valves hit piston? valves move too much and damage themselves? Chris -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher McCann wrote: damage - how? valves hit piston? valves move too much and damage themselves? Valves with negative clearance (always open) getting scorched by flames flowing past them when they should be shut. You should read the valve adjustment .pdf from the factory service manual. If you are on broadband, just say the word and I'm sure somebody will email it to you.
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
AGAIN SO Sorry, I will no longer mix new medication and email On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 03:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uhh dude, wrong list redghost wrote: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1131535942/Beer_And_A_Butt -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
I would not advise doing it solo. Even with two of us and the chain grabber lead thing it was a touchy situation. There were a few times we had to make sure we had not skipped a tooth. This is a five hand job with two heads and some beer On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 05:13 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required. Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or would be worthy or interested in helping. Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
Just send me your remaining meds and all will be forgiven. On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGAIN SO Sorry, I will no longer mix new medication and email Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
MY EXTREME BAD New meds, meant to go to banned On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 05:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the hell happened to just having a few friends by some bbq maybe watch a little football... some brew ...? normal stuff ... why did u post this? jesus man sup wit that? collins 1985 500 sec ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] New Kid on the 'list'
My gramma had a cousin named Mercedes (also German side)...don't know if the wife would go for that. They pronounced it mer-said-is - don't know if that is correct. Liesel is a popular girls name in Germany: Liesel Mercedes McCann That't too much even for me!...I think... Take Care! ___ Hey - that name sounds pretty good - probably be the only one in her class. Even if the two words come your way they are still worth it. I've got three girls and a boy - all grown and gone now, and I enjoy being with all of them. Sure you will also. Congratulations. New babies and kids are great, now get some sleep BillR Jacksonville FL 904-737-2855 cell 904-707-0404 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K engine 2001 I 30 'Hers' 71K 1996 Sentra 255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
Y'all do not want these. Really mess you up. Make you send things to online community that result in huge embarrassment. Besides the internal side effect make getting a beer colonic a real good sounding idea On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 06:01 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Just send me your remaining meds and all will be forgiven. On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGAIN SO Sorry, I will no longer mix new medication and email Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Marshall -- If Chris has a cold setting he wouldn't have seventeen daughters and still be in his 20s. Don On 11/10/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
Hey, what part of all will be forgiven did you not understand??? Just send the freakin meds, man On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y'all do not want these. Really mess you up. Make you send things to online community that result in huge embarrassment. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 300TE Demise / Manuals / Mat
So who's the guy molesting the beautiful lady in the white dress GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: TimothyPilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TE Demise / Manuals / Mat Well congrats on the new XT. I was looking at a Forester XT a couple years ago. It was one sweet wagon. I just took a look at your 1937 Buick. That's one sweet jalopy. I may only be 30 years old, but I grew up in a friend's collection of early-40's Buicks. Great cars they were for a teenager. Here's the 1941 Special Eisenhower Edition that I was lent for my wedding: http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/image/20341030/large Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] 300TE Demise / Manuals / Mat
I don't know, but if I ever get a hold of him... POW! Straight to the moon! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/9/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who's the guy molesting the beautiful lady in the white dress GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
LT Don wrote: Marshall -- If Chris has a cold setting he wouldn't have seventeen daughters and still be in his 20s. Now you tell me Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Steering centering plug thread size
On my 1985 300SD I'm going to do some steering system work. Does anyone know the thread size of the special centering tool? Mike Piles
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
this is very very sad. Less than a year ago you were a 1-MB newbie, now you have 3. Christopher McCann wrote: I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Beer enema
I could tell from reading the link it was going to be bad, in a pervinesque way. Zeitgeist wrote: Hey, what part of all will be forgiven did you not understand??? Just send the freakin meds, man On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y'all do not want these. Really mess you up. Make you send things to online community that result in huge embarrassment. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
it was. The fluid was about 2qt low, I just couldn't tell easliy how low it really was and it took me a bit to get the fluid high enough to warm the trans up. It's driving as normal now :D Luther, off to KS and IL in Gold Dust. On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:09:06 -0600, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther; FWIW, I am afraid that your slippage is not neccessarily ATF level related. My '82 300SD with a 722.303 tranny has bad leaks and it always is low on ATF. The higher I fill it, the worse it leaks. Low is not a problem, overfilling is B A A A D. I don't even check it anymore. I just carry a quart of ATF and a funnel in the trunk. When it gets too low I know because it stays in first gear. I pour the quart in and I'm going again for months. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
[MBZ] F/S: 1980 300GD G-Wagen
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Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
1.5 years ago I was the same 1 MB didn't have a clue MB. Now I have 4 and trade for parts On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:52:09 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is very very sad. Less than a year ago you were a 1-MB newbie, now you have 3. Christopher McCann wrote: I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Luther typed: off to KS and IL IL? I'm sorry. Illinois is a good place to be FROM. Bob Rentfro (1982 Illinois refugee) '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
[MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
Hello gang, I'm proud to announce the arrival of my fourth child, a 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas, 4-sp semi-automatic, 170,000 km, swan white with black leather interior. And so continues my descent into financial ruin. Picture (taken by the PO towards the end of restoration process) at: http://www.bruckmann.com/cars/deesse.jpg D.
Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
Congrat David. Why aren't you passing out cigars? :) Have you sold the 2CV yet? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/9/05, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello gang, I'm proud to announce the arrival of my fourth child, a 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas, 4-sp semi-automatic, 170,000 km, swan white with black leather interior. And so continues my descent into financial ruin. Picture (taken by the PO towards the end of restoration process) at: http://www.bruckmann.com/cars/deesse.jpg D. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] The tire saga continues...
To recap the story so far: To start with, the car went down the road straight as an arrow, but vibrated at certain speeds. Also, it had been 10,000 miles, so I figured it was time to have the tires rotated. I went to Les Schwab and had the tires balanced and rotated. The car immediately started pulling hard to the right. Went back to Les Schwab. They swapped the two front tires, and the car started pulling to the left, suggesting a bad tire. (Getting it replaced under warranty isn't an option, since the chain I originally bought the tires from doesn't have a presence in Washington.) Today, I took it back again and they replaced the left front tire. The old left front became the spare. It *still* pulls to the left. At this point, I figure the only thing left (besides just un-rotating the tires) is to swap the spare (which used to be the left front) with the right front, on the theory that they've simply replaced the wrong tire.
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Absolutely. Will also cause hard starts, excessive smoke, and injector knock. Also, burnt valves eventually. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
Sure can. If you are rich (somewhat unlikely if you are driving a 77 300D) you can buy the chain guide that bolts on and holds the chain in place on the cam sprocket. If you are poor like me, just use wire ties or some vise grips (you need three) to clamp the chain to the sprocket. It is also possible to drop BOTH ends of the chain and still end up OK, but I would recommend avoiding doing so Peter
Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
Oh man, I've dreamed of owning one of those for years. Lucky me, they are non-existant this ware west! Crazy fun cars, but surely expensive to keep running these days. If the battery goes flat, I think they have a hand crank hole in the front trim. Peter
Re: [MBZ] The tire saga continues...
Could be -- the tire will pull away from the side that is bigger at speed, so if the right tire was causing a pull to the left instead of the right... If one is bad, the others are probably close behind. Peter
Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
On 11/9/05, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picture (taken by the PO towards the end of restoration process) at: http://www.bruckmann.com/cars/deesse.jpg Is it supposed to ride that low, or is there something wrong with the air suspension? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] The tire saga continues...
Peter Frederick wrote: Could be -- the tire will pull away from the side that is bigger at speed, so if the right tire was causing a pull to the left instead of the right... If one is bad, the others are probably close behind. Could be. They only have 10,000 miles on them, and they're supposed to be 50,000 mile tires. I don't think I'll ever buy Kelly tires again.
Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
Ah, OK. So the car in the picture has probably just been sitting for a while, or has the magic lever set to low position. Interesting. On 11/9/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex: It's not an AIR suspension, it's hydraulic (very similar to the self leveling system in the Benz wagons and taxis, except there is this handy lever next to the driver's seat that lets you vary the height from something like 3 clearance to 9 clearance! They do tend to leak down overnight -- you must be careful where you park, else you can ram something through the floor! No jack -- you set the suspension all the way up, put the stand supplied under the jack point and set the suspension all the way down and the wheel lifts off the ground. Also has (at least in Europe) hydraulic power brakes were the foot pedal is just a button on the floor operating a valve. The transmission is a vacuum clutch hydraulically shifted manual, too. Very funky. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Vacuum shutoff saga
My brother and I finally got around to replacing the shutoff solenoid in his 75 300D (W115 chassis). This is an MW pump with manual altitude correction. To change the solenoid, you must remove the rear cover of the pump (five screws) since the solenoid is held in place by two screws from the inside and the top screw for the cover (through which you can measure the pump rack travel). Hans laughed at us and said have fun, that one is a real pain when we bought the solenoid from him. He's right, it is. First fun part was getting to the back of the IP -- not much room in that car. Had to remove the rear pair of injection lines, drain the rad, and drain the head by removing the heater supply hose, then removing the last two glow plugs (only the rear one really needs to come out, but Sam has burned out two rear GP in the last month, and I wanted to check the next plug up for shorts). Also pulled the main vac line off the booster to get it out of the way too. Next PITA is getting.the slotted head screws out -- this particular job has been done before on this car, so all the heads have huge burrs from sloppy work. Sam has a wonderful sideways screwdriver made by Miller's Falls he got with some machinist tools some years back. With it, we got all the screws out, some from underneath as there isn't room up top. We bought new cap screws and ditched the old slot heads. After juggling around a while, we got the new servo installed in what we though was the correct location (it's actually easy on this pump, as the hook is just behind the rack lever, no slot or anything, but we didn't know that and opened up the top cover anyway), and proceded to replace the vac pump diaphram. Glad we did, but that meant pulling the engine fan and upper radiator hose, too. Got everything correctly installed again and tried to start it. No go -- cranks fine, but no start. Not even any diesel smoke. Big bummer, did we wreck the IP? Pulled the top cover off, solenoid lever looks wrong, decided it was dragging on the rack lever instead of in front of it as the rack could be shoved forward with a screwdriver, so we messed around a little and then applied vac to the shutoff with the MitiVac again. Ha, it's stuck, so off the cover comes again (after removing the injection lines, glow plug, and vac line again). This time we actually found the problem. The servo was sticking down when vac was applied, so the rack was in the stop position all the time. Easy fix, the actuating arm was slightly bent. Straightened that out and everything works fine. Took almost 5 hours, though Peter
Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
I would love to have one -- the DS-21 had the lowest drag coefficient of any production car for a long time, and may still for that matter -- very streamlined with a pronounced taper to the rear. Single spoke steering wheel and the starter switch is on the shift lever (push past Park) so you cannot start it in gear. Oh well, I need another car like I need another hole in my head! Peter
[MBZ] New Father
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:55:48 -0500 From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father To: Mercedes List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Hello gang, I'm proud to announce the arrival of my fourth child, a 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas, 4-sp semi-automatic, 170,000 km, swan white with black leather interior. And so continues my descent into financial ruin. Picture (taken by the PO towards the end of restoration process) at: http://www.bruckmann.com/cars/deesse.jpg D. __ Congrats on that one. Citroen is my love other than MB. From the fact that this one is now yours I assume that you are not only a mechanic but also a plumber. Loved that hydraulic system - easiest way to jack up a car I ever saw, though with the odd balance system if it is a back tire that goes flat you can just take it off and drive on with the other three. Saw a fully loaded station wagon do that once in the late '60's. Enjoy - and learn a few curses in French just to get ahead of the game. BillR Jacksonville FL 904-737-2855 cell 904-707-0404 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K engine 2001 I 30 'Hers' 71K 1996 Sentra 255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]
[MBZ] Topsider for AT??
Howdy --
Is the Topsider appropriate to use for removing ATF from a 722.1 AT?
Since MB stopped putting drain plugs on the AT oil pans it tends to be a
little messy to loosen/remove the bolts and crack the pan enough for the ATF
to run out. I was thinking I could vacuum the ATF out then go under the car
and remove the pan, replace the filter and drain the torque converter.
Sound like a plan? Or will the topsider not work in the AT for some reason?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D 285k)
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Re: [MBZ] (OT) I'm a new father
This will be my 6th DS, and the nicest one so far. I enjoy the extremes of owning a 2CV (which makes a VW Bug look like as complicated as the space shuttle) and a DS (which makes the space shuttle look as simple as a shopping cart). 34 metres of hydraulic tubing, woo-hoo! I can't wait to adjust my headlights. The main beams react vertically to bumps in the road, and the high-beams turn with the steering wheel! D.
Re: [MBZ] The tire saga continues...
David Brodbeck wrote: Could be. They only have 10,000 miles on them, and they're supposed to be 50,000 mile tires. I don't think I'll ever buy Kelly tires again. Shouldn't the Kelly warranty be good at any Kelly dealer? Where's the tire they took off?
[MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
Look familiar? http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276 On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Casey Wrote: Are you required to be certified for the upgraded Coast Guard Land Yacht license in order to navigate that barge? Okay, it is a big car, but it also gets 30 mpg on the highway. The 3.8 engine that Oldsmobile built is a fantastic motor. As a Vanagon Owner, are you permitted to keep a job? Does the weed and patchouli oil smell come standard with any Vanagon purchase? :-) Donald H. Snook 1992 Olds 98 119K (land yacht and loving it).
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Actually, if I'm thinking if the same one, the 3.8 was Buick. And it was a great engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98 Casey Wrote: Are you required to be certified for the upgraded Coast Guard Land Yacht license in order to navigate that barge? Okay, it is a big car, but it also gets 30 mpg on the highway. The 3.8 engine that Oldsmobile built is a fantastic motor. As a Vanagon Owner, are you permitted to keep a job? Does the weed and patchouli oil smell come standard with any Vanagon purchase? :-) Donald H. Snook 1992 Olds 98 119K (land yacht and loving it). ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
rumor has it that Tom wrote: Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required. Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or would be worthy or interested in helping. Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA I did it solo - about 5 times. The chain that came out of the box was too short. (!!!???!!??) So I was _sure_ I did something wrong. New chain in/old chain out; old in/new out; new in/old out, dropped end down inside. *sigh* Recovered chain end, installed old chain, removed injector pump, replaced oil pan, ordered a _correct_ chain from Rusty. Then - newer chain in/old chain out. Piece of cake! Just be sure you have the right size replacement chain (136 links), and never drop it down inside!! I did make a handy device to help me guide the new chain in, the old chain out, and keep both of them in firm contact with the cam gear - with one hand. The other hand could then work the rachet on the power steering pump nut to turn the engine. I've attached a photo. Sorry, archive... Philip, -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chain-tool.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 93771 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051110/d40c93fc/chain-tool.jpg
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
Hans found: Completely packed with caked up sooth [sic]. Is this something I should be concerned about? What would the symptoms be? Danke Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
Just look at Casey's pictures. That's what I saw. My imagination of the manifolds interior is exactly like the picture shows.. On 11/10/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans found: Completely packed with caked up sooth [sic]. Is this something I should be concerned about? What would the symptoms be? Danke Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] I am an outsider now
Not necessarily! In 1982, the test drive for the first Mercedes we ever purchased (a 1973 model 280) was done at night and consisted of driving one block, hanging a u-turn and returning to the guy's home. We did examine the car under a streetlight, however. Although the seller was a shady Iranian who demanded cash, and the car had NO paperwork, it seemed to run fine so we purchased it (financed by the bank) for $4900 (he was asking $5500). It had some issues with the transmission, carburetor spring,and vacuum locks, but was overall a great driving car. After a year we sold it to a dip(lomat) for $4850! On 11/9/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better that than an impulse Benz buy, which would probably turn into a sinkhole for your money. On 11/9/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow listers, Because I sold my 90 300D and I am still looking for a replacement benz, I had to purchase something to drive. Yesterday, I bought a 1992 Oldsmobile 98 Regency. A little history might be helpful. I used to be a Service Manager at an Oldsmobile/Honda Dealership. So, I am familiar with these GM behemoths. Believe it or not the late 80's and early 90's Oldsmobile 98's were really good cars. So, I bought this grampa mobile to drive around this winter while I search for the replacement benz. I am an outsider now, but hopefully you won't shun me and treat me like a leper. :-) Donald H. Snook 92 Olds 98 Regency 119K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
When my mom moved in with us she brought her 92 Olds 88 with 3.8 -- I really
enjoyed that car - until my brother in law totalled it driving home from a
funeral a couple of years ago.
You're right about it being a great engine - plenty of power and excellent
mpg's. it only had 50k on when when it died.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Casey Wrote:
Are you required to be certified for the upgraded Coast Guard Land
Yacht license in order to navigate that barge?
Okay, it is a big car, but it also gets 30 mpg on the highway. The 3.8
engine that Oldsmobile built is a fantastic motor.
As a Vanagon Owner, are you permitted to keep a job? Does the weed and
patchouli oil smell come standard with any Vanagon purchase? :-)
Donald H. Snook
1992 Olds 98 119K (land yacht and loving it).
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[MBZ] Cleaning engine, any words of caution?
I'm planning on cleaning my engine...it's got the usual spills and stains on the block, etc, and its tough to tell which is new and which is old. On a gas powered car, I'd just spray it with Engine Brite, wait 15 minutes and hose it down. Is there anything special I need to be aware of with regard to the diesel? Keep water away from the IP? Transmission? TIA, Lee '93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 178K
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
before doing this because of mileage you should check it for stetch - put
the crank on TDC, remove the cam cover and check the cam washer - it has a V
cut into it that should align with the mark on the cam tower - it'll be off
some if stretched - the amount is measured in degrees - I believe over 5 d
indicates need for change.
As preventive maintanence you might consider changing the tensioner also --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
rumor has it that Tom wrote:
Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing
some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required.
Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or
friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or
would
be worthy or interested in helping.
Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks
Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
I did it solo - about 5 times.
The chain that came out of the box was too short. (!!!???!!??)
So I was _sure_ I did something wrong.
New chain in/old chain out; old in/new out; new in/old out, dropped end
down inside. *sigh*
Recovered chain end, installed old chain, removed injector pump,
replaced oil pan, ordered a _correct_ chain from Rusty.
Then - newer chain in/old chain out.
Piece of cake!
Just be sure you have the right size replacement chain (136 links),
and never drop it down inside!!
I did make a handy device to help me guide the new chain in, the old
chain out, and keep both of them in firm contact with the cam gear -
with one hand. The other hand could then work the rachet on the power
steering pump nut to turn the engine.
I've attached a photo. Sorry, archive...
Philip,
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Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D Yes. and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. Feeler gauges are a generic item. The specs are in millimeters, but you can translate that to inches. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. For Mercedes diesels, stone cold is the way to go; hot adjustment is too variable since the engine temperature is changing while you're working. Intake 0.10 mm (0.004)0.15 mm (0.006) for steady ambient temperatures below -20 deg.C (-4 deg.F) Exhaust0.30 mm (0.012) Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? I'm sure it is. Marshall posted a site for manual pages earlier in the week. The procedure is sure to be there. Job number 05-210. Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 222 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
I just had a thought. I've read that a ball bearing can be used to block the EGR tube, and one guy used a small metal disc. Since I have no ball bearings around, believe it or not, would something else work? I'm thinking a tin foil cap or some aluminum tape? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:28:26AM -0600, Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, if I'm thinking if the same one, the 3.8 was Buick. And it was a great engine. Yup, same engine, started life as a buick v8 missing two cylinders in the sixties, was sold to kaiser for jeep engines, then kaiser was bought by amc, then amc sold the engine back to GM, who made it a bit bigger, and eventually put a turbo and fuel injection on it. Sometime in the late eighties they got around to evening out the firing. The one in my friend's 98 le sabre is amazingly smooth, and gets great mileage on the highway. The car handles like it needs nav lights and a ship-to-shore radio :) K
Re: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
I've used the top-sider method to get most of the transmission fluid out
prior to dropping the pan. The mess is minimized that way.
Dennis
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Subject: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
Howdy --
Is the Topsider appropriate to use for removing ATF from a 722.1 AT?
Since MB stopped putting drain plugs on the AT oil pans it tends to be a
little messy to loosen/remove the bolts and crack the pan enough for the ATF
to run out. I was thinking I could vacuum the ATF out then go under the car
and remove the pan, replace the filter and drain the torque converter.
Sound like a plan? Or will the topsider not work in the AT for some reason?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D 285k)
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Re: [MBZ] Steering centering plug thread size
Mike, I do remember it's a fairly common metric thread, but I don't remember exactly what it was. I just pulled the bolt from the centering hole, took it down to the hardware store, and found one about an inch longer. Took the longer bolt home and ground the end to a point. Instant centering tool! Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 11/9/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my 1985 300SD I'm going to do some steering system work. Does anyone know the thread size of the special centering tool? Mike Piles
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
I've got a 1985 Buick Park Avenue with that 3.8L engine rusting away at my dad's house. It ran great when I parked it some 3 years ago. It was a strong engine and I never had a problem with it. I'm kinda sad that it won't start now. I think the wiring harness is kaput. The peripherals were a different story and I replaced a number of things. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/10/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, if I'm thinking if the same one, the 3.8 was Buick. And it was a great engine.
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
Sigh, I might'swell look into this for myself. Since I'm replacing my
waterpump (housing to the machine shop tomorrow) and all my accessory
belts are off, it'd be easier now I suppose than later. What tools do
I need to check the stretch, and, um, where's the chain located?
(ducks and runs for cover)
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 11/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
before doing this because of mileage you should check it for stetch - put
the crank on TDC, remove the cam cover and check the cam washer - it has a V
cut into it that should align with the mark on the cam tower - it'll be off
some if stretched - the amount is measured in degrees - I believe over 5 d
indicates need for change.
As preventive maintanence you might consider changing the tensioner also --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
rumor has it that Tom wrote:
Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing
some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required.
Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or
friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or
would
be worthy or interested in helping.
Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks
Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
I did it solo - about 5 times.
The chain that came out of the box was too short. (!!!???!!??)
So I was _sure_ I did something wrong.
New chain in/old chain out; old in/new out; new in/old out, dropped end
down inside. *sigh*
Recovered chain end, installed old chain, removed injector pump,
replaced oil pan, ordered a _correct_ chain from Rusty.
Then - newer chain in/old chain out.
Piece of cake!
Just be sure you have the right size replacement chain (136 links),
and never drop it down inside!!
I did make a handy device to help me guide the new chain in, the old
chain out, and keep both of them in firm contact with the cam gear -
with one hand. The other hand could then work the rachet on the power
steering pump nut to turn the engine.
I've attached a photo. Sorry, archive...
Philip,
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Re: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
I used the $2 Oil Sucker on my old Cadillac and Blazer, sucker hose went
right down to the bottom of the pan and cleaned it out very well. Don't
know if the sucker tube can get down to the bottom of the Benz trans, or
if the filler tube goes to the bottom (I seem to recall it does not,
from when I changed fluid on my car).
It does work well on the power steering pump, brake reservoir, etc.
--R
Woodlandtaylors wrote:
I've used the top-sider method to get most of the transmission fluid out
prior to dropping the pan. The mess is minimized that way.
Dennis
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Subject: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
Howdy --
Is the Topsider appropriate to use for removing ATF from a 722.1 AT?
Since MB stopped putting drain plugs on the AT oil pans it tends to be a
little messy to loosen/remove the bolts and crack the pan enough for the ATF
to run out. I was thinking I could vacuum the ATF out then go under the car
and remove the pan, replace the filter and drain the torque converter.
Sound like a plan? Or will the topsider not work in the AT for some reason?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D 285k)
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70
I am an outsider now, but hopefully you won't shun me and treat me like a leper. :-) Donald H. Snook 92 Olds 98 Regency 119K Leprosy can be cured these days - you are pretty safe. BillR Jacksonville FL 904-737-2855 cell 904-707-0404 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K engine 2001 I 30 'Hers' 71K 1996 Sentra 255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, if I'm thinking if the same one, the 3.8 was Buick. And it was a great engine. You are right Tom. The 3.8 was originally designed by Buick. It had many manifestations. It was used in the Buick Regal in the early 80's (80-83 I think). It was also some of the oldsmobiles and Pontiacs. In the early generation, it was a dog and a lousy engine. In 1985, Gm put it into the Olds 98 C body. 1985 was the first year that it had fuel injection. The 85 had lots of problems with timing chains (ask me how I know). They used the same engine in 86 and 87 in the olds 98 and the Buick Park Avenue. Then in 88 they put a harmonic balancer on it and called it the 3800. This was the first generation of the fantastic engines. By 1990, it was perfected and it was an amazing performer. GM discovered this engine could be used in lots of platforms. They put it in the Bonneville, 98, park avenue, 88, and others. Then they started putting it in some of the vans and the Monte Carlo (as an option over the tired old 3.1 m motor). Then in 94 or 95 they continued to use it and despite it near flawless performance, they decided to change it. They replace the metal intake with a plastic intake which promptly failed and leaked coolant. Overall, they were great engines. I think the best GM ever made. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
Put a BB in the vacuum line going to EGR. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TimothyPilgrim Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:34 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve I just had a thought. I've read that a ball bearing can be used to block the EGR tube, and one guy used a small metal disc. Since I have no ball bearings around, believe it or not, would something else work? I'm thinking a tin foil cap or some aluminum tape? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Had a Jeepster Commando with the Buick 225 Dauntless V6. That thing was a tractor..It had the torque to move anything but, typical of jeeps of the era, was geared terribly low for the road and drank gas like it was free. Put a 215V8 in it's place and it was ALOT more fun but not any better on gas. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98 On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:28:26AM -0600, Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, if I'm thinking if the same one, the 3.8 was Buick. And it was a great engine. Yup, same engine, started life as a buick v8 missing two cylinders in the sixties, was sold to kaiser for jeep engines, then kaiser was bought by amc, then amc sold the engine back to GM, who made it a bit bigger, and eventually put a turbo and fuel injection on it. Sometime in the late eighties they got around to evening out the firing. The one in my friend's 98 le sabre is amazingly smooth, and gets great mileage on the highway. The car handles like it needs nav lights and a ship-to-shore radio :) K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
I've always done the chain solo. I like to tie or vicegrip the chain to
the cam sprocket before breaking a link. I also tie a small wire to each
side of the chain before i break it. I have learned to stuff rags in the
chaincase cavity in case you DO drop something. (Need to pull the rags out
before you actually roll in the new chain.) I once dropped the center link
down a OM621. It wedged between the teeth of the crank sprocket. I ended
up having to take the engine out and flip it over and pull the pan. Ruined
my day! That was probably about the 5th chain i replaced, and i got
sloppy. Never hurry or get sloppy messing with the chain.
Many years ago i acquired a medical locking forceps that has relief behind
the jaws. I can lock it on one side of the chain, then if i drop it, the
forceps keeps it from going too far, and gives me a handle to pick it up
with. We have far more IT geeks on this list than medicos, so a tool like
this is probably not available to most of us.
Pull the plugs or injectors to get the engine to turn freely. On the 621,
615-617 I might pull the cam followers also, so the cam doesn't jump, but
this is not necessary if you are careful. If my memory is correct, the cam
jumping was what caused me to loose the piece of link into the guts of the
621. (this is a good time to get the nozzles tested!) Generally, if it
needs a chain, it needs nozzles. ~300k for OM 60x id guess. I did this to
my 603 at 300K
I still prefer the repair link to the riveted link. As long as you put it
together right they never come off. You have to get the spring keeper in
just right, and check it.
I really like the bungie cord trick! Learned something new!
Loren
Changed lotsa 621 chains
one 616 chain
one 603 chain
At 09:34 AM 11/10/2005, you wrote:
before doing this because of mileage you should check it for stetch - put
the crank on TDC, remove the cam cover and check the cam washer - it has a V
cut into it that should align with the mark on the cam tower - it'll be off
some if stretched - the amount is measured in degrees - I believe over 5 d
indicates need for change.
As preventive maintanence you might consider changing the tensioner also --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
rumor has it that Tom wrote:
Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing
some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required.
Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or
friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or
would
be worthy or interested in helping.
Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks
Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
I did it solo - about 5 times.
The chain that came out of the box was too short. (!!!???!!??)
So I was _sure_ I did something wrong.
New chain in/old chain out; old in/new out; new in/old out, dropped end
down inside. *sigh*
Recovered chain end, installed old chain, removed injector pump,
replaced oil pan, ordered a _correct_ chain from Rusty.
Then - newer chain in/old chain out.
Piece of cake!
Just be sure you have the right size replacement chain (136 links),
and never drop it down inside!!
I did make a handy device to help me guide the new chain in, the old
chain out, and keep both of them in firm contact with the cam gear -
with one hand. The other hand could then work the rachet on the power
steering pump nut to turn the engine.
I've attached a photo. Sorry, archive...
Philip,
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Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
A BB will disable the valve but will not prevent exhaust recirculation if the valve does not perfectly seat. With the crud in there I saw, it will most likely not. A simple sheet metal plate inserted between the valve flange and the manifold will positively stop that crud. All one needs is a pair of tin snips, a soup can and the wrenches (4mm Allen and a 11mm socket). On 11/10/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a BB in the vacuum line going to EGR. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TimothyPilgrim Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:34 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve I just had a thought. I've read that a ball bearing can be used to block the EGR tube, and one guy used a small metal disc. Since I have no ball bearings around, believe it or not, would something else work? I'm thinking a tin foil cap or some aluminum tape? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
With the ATF being a very thin fluid, adapting a smaller OD tube (1/4) to
the sucker will let you go down the dipstick tube.
On 11/10/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used the $2 Oil Sucker on my old Cadillac and Blazer, sucker hose went
right down to the bottom of the pan and cleaned it out very well. Don't
know if the sucker tube can get down to the bottom of the Benz trans, or
if the filler tube goes to the bottom (I seem to recall it does not,
from when I changed fluid on my car).
It does work well on the power steering pump, brake reservoir, etc.
--R
Woodlandtaylors wrote:
I've used the top-sider method to get most of the transmission fluid out
prior to dropping the pan. The mess is minimized that way.
Dennis
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]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Topsider for AT??
Howdy --
Is the Topsider appropriate to use for removing ATF from a 722.1 AT?
Since MB stopped putting drain plugs on the AT oil pans it tends to be a
little messy to loosen/remove the bolts and crack the pan enough for the
ATF
to run out. I was thinking I could vacuum the ATF out then go under the
car
and remove the pan, replace the filter and drain the torque converter.
Sound like a plan? Or will the topsider not work in the AT for some
reason?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D 285k)
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Re: [MBZ] oh boy
Seen a car like this in Houston, except the grille and all the chrome was flat black too. On 11/10/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/81-mercedes-300SD-diesel-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ8013806766QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve
Sorry. Make this a 5mm Allen. On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A BB will disable the valve but will not prevent exhaust recirculation if the valve does not perfectly seat. With the crud in there I saw, it will most likely not. A simple sheet metal plate inserted between the valve flange and the manifold will positively stop that crud. All one needs is a pair of tin snips, a soup can and the wrenches (4mm Allen and a 11mm socket). On 11/10/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a BB in the vacuum line going to EGR. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TimothyPilgrim Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:34 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] horryfying discovery at EGR valve I just had a thought. I've read that a ball bearing can be used to block the EGR tube, and one guy used a small metal disc. Since I have no ball bearings around, believe it or not, would something else work? I'm thinking a tin foil cap or some aluminum tape? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/10/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I decided to disable the EGR. Cut an outline of the 2-bolt flange to the intake manifold from some 16 ga sheet metal with 2 ea. 3/8 holes where the bolts go. Easy enough, took 20 minutes. Found that I didn't need the block plate. Exactly what Dr. Booth preaches: Sooth build-up. There was no hole left leading to the intake manifold. Completely packed with caked up sooth.I just can imagine what the intake ports look like. Is there a way to clean this up without removing the intake manifold and head? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] oh boy
From what I understand some of the AMGs had blacked out chrome... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:52 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh boy Seen a car like this in Houston, except the grille and all the chrome was flat black too. On 11/10/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/81-mercedes-300SD-diesel-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ 8013806766QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The tire saga continues...
Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Could be. They only have 10,000 miles on them, and they're supposed to be 50,000 mile tires. I don't think I'll ever buy Kelly tires again. Shouldn't the Kelly warranty be good at any Kelly dealer? Where's the tire they took off? It's now the spare.
Re: [MBZ] oh boy
Animal House Death Mobile? Gary On 11/10/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/81-mercedes-300SD-diesel-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ8013806766QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: [MBZ] New Father
Sunil Hari wrote: It's like an ugly baby - objectively, it might be hideous, but to its parents it's the most beautiful baby in history. I dunno. I think it's actually a gorgeous car, in a really eccentric sort of way. (But then, I like odd-looking cars. I also think DeLoreans, Jaguar E-types, and '71-'73 Buick Rivieras are good looking.)
Re: [MBZ] oh boy
Was there a 126 chassis AMG ? On 11/10/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I understand some of the AMGs had blacked out chrome... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:52 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh boy Seen a car like this in Houston, except the grille and all the chrome was flat black too. On 11/10/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/81-mercedes-300SD-diesel-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ 8013806766QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] The tire saga continues...
Lots of people sell Kelly's. The retailers hold the warranty bag. If you don't have the warranty from whoever sold it, you're out of luck of a clam. On 11/10/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Could be. They only have 10,000 miles on them, and they're supposed to be 50,000 mile tires. I don't think I'll ever buy Kelly tires again. Shouldn't the Kelly warranty be good at any Kelly dealer? Where's the tire they took off? It's now the spare. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Kevin wrote: The car handles like it needs nav lights and a ship-to-shore radio :) Add them. And a flying bridge, while you're at it. It'll be great. ;)
Re: [MBZ] New Father
Don't know about the Rivies. More like a 2-door battleship. On 11/10/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: It's like an ugly baby - objectively, it might be hideous, but to its parents it's the most beautiful baby in history. I dunno. I think it's actually a gorgeous car, in a really eccentric sort of way. (But then, I like odd-looking cars. I also think DeLoreans, Jaguar E-types, and '71-'73 Buick Rivieras are good looking.) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
What type of anchor came with it ? On 11/10/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: The car handles like it needs nav lights and a ship-to-shore radio :) -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
