date:20060218


Howdy -
Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D 2.5 Turbo - tomorrow!)

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Manuals

http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W124/Index/602_603index.html

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5

2006-02-18 Thread William 'Chip' Lamb


At 07:03 PM 2/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Howdy -
Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?


Yes, 60x all have hydraulic tappets.

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5

Yes, the pneumatic adjusters didn't quite pan out.  As stated before,
use synthetic oils.

On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy -
> Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5

Yes, Larry - no valve periodic adjustments needed.  The down side is that 
you don't get the "free look" at the timing chain as you would on a 617!  In 
my case, the valve cover hasn't been off in 221k miles!


Werner

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Subject: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5



Howdy -
Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D 2.5 Turbo - tomorrow!)

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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE

Bob - my experience with Diesel MBs is that if they are in good condition, 
they will only use a quart every 3-5k miles (or so).  If more than that, 
look for leaks.  If no leaks and the consumption is greater than above, then 
Dino probably makes economic sense in moderate to warm climates, IMO.


Werner

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Tom shared:

"My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a
reliable source."

Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine
very long?

Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread redghost

Not sure why, but the POS SDL liked to do that.  Ended up selling the 
car to Kaleb.


On Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 08:25 PM, OK Don wrote:


We drove to Albuquerque from OKC today - just got here. After the
final ten miles at only 65mph, I pulled off I-40 at my exit, came to a
stop light, where the engine promptly died. It took a bit of cranking
to start, and I had to hold throttle to keep it running. Same thing at
the next light. It worked fine at the third and forth stops.

Any idea of what might have caused this? It's the first time I've
experienced anything like it in a Diesel.

TIA -
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5

Geez!  221k  without checking the timing chain?  That's a lnng time on 
one TC - I think.


I did notice how it got quieter as it warmed up..   I;m going to pick it up 
tomorrow - then I can go thru everything and see what I have.  The seller is 
going to get the records together - and this is a good time for Rusty to be 
having a sale on maintanence stuff!  I'll probably do the trans filter kit 
and then put Mobil 1 ATF in-- I'll put ~3000 miles on the oil that was 
changed early this month and then go with M1.


Thanks for all the great info (this is directed at you and the others who 
responded)  - it;s great to have a resource like this at my fingertips!


Sincerely,
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Yes, Larry - no valve periodic adjustments needed.  The down side is that
you don't get the "free look" at the timing chain as you would on a 617! 
In

my case, the valve cover hasn't been off in 221k miles!

Werner

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Subject: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5



Howdy -
Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D 2.5 Turbo - tomorrow!)

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Re: [MBZ] Bought a Different 300D

$800?!?  Dude, this is the Northwest, and don't forget that I
"converted" the car over to run on biodiesel, and have the sticker to
prove it.  This baby's going up on CL and Ebay, and I'm not settling
for less than $6K!  It's not just biodiesel ready, it's already living
the dream, baby!

Yeee hawww, it gets 40mpg, lasts a million miles, and runs on boiled
organic goat piss.  It's a sure-fire granola magnet.  I can't lose!

btw:  I'm on crack, again.

On 2/16/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just sell that one to me for the same $800 that you paid for it and I'll buy
it!
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
> 1973 220D project

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k) for sale someday--if you have to ask how much, you
can't afford it.
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Re: [MBZ] '83 240D clutch won't work

2006-02-18 Thread archer


Original post:

archer wrote:

My wifes '83 240D clutch won't release.

---
Many thanks to John, Larry, Mitch, and Steve (hope I didn't miss anyone) for
your suggestions about the clutch.
Trying the easiest fixes first, I rolled the car out of the garage, started
the engine, and let it get good and hot.
I turned off the engine, put it in gear, and bumped the starter.  After a
number of bumps which made the car lurch there was a loud crack.  I put it
in neutral, started the engine, and it went into gear!  The clutch works
fine now.

I don't think this old man could keep fixing his MBs without the great
advice I get from you guys on MBZ.

Gerry Archer
'83 240D and 300D

P.S. This 240D which has always been garaged and almost always driven by my
wife may be up for sale eventually.  It's pretty close to one that just came
off the boat inside and out. It  has 160K on the odometer.  What would be
the best way to get an idea of what I could sell it for?  If I can't get a
pretty good price, I'll just keep it for a spare (but I'll for sure drive it
once in a while so the clutch won't stick again.

Re: [MBZ] Hate finding this stuff

2006-02-18 Thread redghost

I love to watch my FiL screw with his boat.  Just smile and have happy 
thoughts while he berates Gump.  The poor fool built one himself and 
has spent the past two years attempting to sell it.  No takers because 
it looks like it was a class project in wood shop on the inside.


Upgraded to a 42 footer that he "reworked".  Can't afford to keep fuel 
in it with the price of diesel.  I tell him to use vegetable oil just 
to watch him turn red and have a fit.


On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

She could be a boat.  That would be a total waste, since the boat 
would

sink.  Gump remains on land and running, so I am happy


According to the classic definition of a boat: "A hole in the water
into which one pours money", I would think that the process would be
much more efficient if it sank first.


I think she is going to try to nickel and dime me to death or at
least
until she looks FABULOUS!


It's a car, innit?  Was there ever any question?


-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Manuals

2006-02-18 Thread redghost

RAMEN!  His noodly goodness will touch you and provide you with 
knowledge in the Factory manuals, since the Haynes books are not that 
great


On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 11:28 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Howdy --
I always buy manuals for my car - do I need the Mercedes Factory 
Manuals or

will Haynes tell me everything I need to know?

Are the FSMs on the internet?

What about parts diagrams?

TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D- soon)
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[MBZ] Photos of W124 evaporator cleaning

2006-02-18 Thread Dave M.

Hi all,

I cleaned the evaporator on my 300E recently, after doing the same job
on my 300D a month earlier. I had previously cleaned this evaporator
with a brush and vacuum, as one half was so filthy I don't know if any
air was actually flowing through! I figured that since I had to pull
the wiper out to replace the windshield, I might as well pull the
blower too and use the foam cleaner. Here are some photos of before,
during, and after. The camera doesn't show the difference very well,
but it was visibly cleaner when I was done:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean1.jpg
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean2.jpg
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean3.jpg
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean4.jpg
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean5.jpg

=)


Best regards,

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Re: [MBZ] Photos of W124 evaporator cleaning

2006-02-18 Thread James Zavesky

what cleaner did you use?

James Zavesky

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Subject: [MBZ] Photos of W124 evaporator cleaning


> Hi all,
> 
> I cleaned the evaporator on my 300E recently, after doing the same job
> on my 300D a month earlier. I had previously cleaned this evaporator
> with a brush and vacuum, as one half was so filthy I don't know if any
> air was actually flowing through! I figured that since I had to pull
> the wiper out to replace the windshield, I might as well pull the
> blower too and use the foam cleaner. Here are some photos of before,
> during, and after. The camera doesn't show the difference very well,
> but it was visibly cleaner when I was done:
> 
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean1.jpg
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean2.jpg
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean3.jpg
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean4.jpg
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean5.jpg
> 
> =)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> --
> Dave M.
> Boise, ID
> 1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
> 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch vs NGK (was exploding glow plugs)

Rusty told me once that the monarchs glow hotter that bosch/buru which 
would lead to them burning out quicker I guess.  Seems he said they were 
good for worn out engines???  Dont know, thats just what the man said.


Marshall Booth wrote:


Gary Hurst wrote:


i'm not a big fan of bosch overall, even though we at BuyMBparts probably
sell more bosch than any other brand.  the people demand bosch and it is the
people who have the final say.

if bosch doesn't float your boat, beru and monark both make glow plugs.  i
particularly like the monarks, although they don't enjoy much support on
this list.  as a general rule, i find bosch products below beru in terms of
quality.

i have no experience with ngk glow plugs, but their spark plugs are the
bomb.

even thought they've given me a leatherman, coffee mug and calendar, I think
it is time to start saying no to bosch where practical.  your benz will
never be bosch free, but every little bit counts.



Every Monark glow plug I've ever tried (some 12-14 of 'em) have failed 
in less than 20kmi. In one case the old Bosch plugs that had come out 
(after 100-150kmi) were used to replace the Monarks and the old ones 
were working fine 40kmi later when new replacement Bosch went in.


Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] Bosch vs NGK (was exploding glow plugs)


there ya go

Gary Hurst wrote:


monark plugs are short lived and cheap.  but they glow hot.  i wouldn't
consider keeping them in for 3 years

the traditional winning combination for starting a very worn engine in very
cold weather was monark plugs and an iskra starter.  both junk.  low
quality.  BUT, effective for this niche.

bosch plug wires are a disgrace compared to beru, but probably outsell beru
at least 5 to 1

i don't even think we sell monark stuff.  i know we don't sell Iskra.



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Re: [MBZ] oil leaking from ignition lock vacuum lines - '80 300D

shutoff diaphram leaking and sucking oil.

Christopher McCann wrote:

A few observations:

1. there is oil in both vacuum lines going to the ignition

2. the oil dripped on the lower plastic panel
3. the oil dripped onto the carpet
4. the car will not turn off with the key unless while driving you run the
heat (only defrst works - NONE of the other buttons do anything, except off)
and then when done driving turn the defrost off, wait 30 seconds, then the key
will turn the car off
5. door locks don't work at all
6. transmission shifts EXTREMELY smoothly, so that part of the vacuum system
must be working fine
7. no other vacuum lines have oil in them
8. This is a 1980 300D with 113,000 miles

Is it possible the vacuum pump is leaking oil only into 2 lines? Perplexed. Any thoughts are appreciated.

Chris

Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 211K, "Wulf"
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[MBZ] Carfax Please

2006-02-18 Thread Chase Kaufman


Hi everyone,

Hopefully I will find a car soon, but could someone please get a carfax for 
me on:

wdbeb31e1sc213826

Thank you very much in advance!

Chase M. K.

Re: [MBZ] oil leaking from ignition lock vacuum lines - '80 300D

2006-02-18 Thread Christopher McCann

Jim,

  Thanks for the thorough reply and thanks to everyone else who  responded. 
Vacuum shutoff being replaced pronto...among following up  with suggestions 
below.

  Chris 

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >   1. there is oil in both vacuum lines 
going to the ignition

Vacuum shutoff at injection pump is leaking, and sucking engine
oil into the vacuum system.  NOT GOOD!  You must replace the
shutoff, and you must flush the oil out of wherever it has
migrated to or the oil will eat the rubber hoses and seals,
assuming it hasn't already.  The shutoff valve at the key
lock may be toast already.  But...

>   2. the oil dripped on the lower plastic panel
>   3. the oil dripped onto the carpet

Fun cleanup.

>   4. the car will not turn off with the key unless while driving you 
> run  the heat (only defrst works - NONE of the other buttons do 
> anything,  except off) and then when done driving turn the defrost 
> off, wait 30  seconds, then the key will turn the car off
>   5. door locks don't work at all

These may be unrelated symptoms.  That being set to Defrost lets the car
shut off sort of indicates that the ACC pods may be torn as well.  
Defrost
results in no vacuum actuation of any of the ACC pods.  This is a 
separate
issue, though they can certainly act interrelated.  If this has the 
ECACCSFH
(Evil Chrysler ACC System From Hell) I don't know as much about it.

>   6. transmission shifts EXTREMELY smoothly, so that part of the 
> vacuum system must be working fine

Not necessarily.  Too smooth is bad, it results in extra clutch wear.
Unhook the line to the tranny, and cap it off on the engine side.
(Line to tranny should be open.)  It should result in very hard shifts.
If not, the tranny is already well down the old familiar road.

>   7. no other vacuum lines have oil in them

Good.

>   8. This is a 1980 300D with 113,000 miles

It's time.  Age, not usually miles is at work here.

>   Is it possible the vacuum pump is leaking oil only into 2 lines?

Not really.  They can also leak oil into the lines, but it tends
to migrate everywhere.  Knock down the problems as you find them.
Your pump may also leak, but there's no need to go there without
evidence.  Flushing the oil out of the existing fouled lines will
give you should-be-clean lines to examine later.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE

2006-02-18 Thread Tom Scordato


Rob if I may, my theory


"Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine
very long?"

I figure the surface to surface real time lubrication that is going on with 
the material used (steel pistons/cylinders and synthetic oil) is what counts 
not how long it stays in there.  I burn about a quart every 1000 miles  +/- 
which for me is around 3 to 5 quarts per month (good news has not gotten any 
worse in the last 90K miles been using synthetics)  I figure with fuel at 
$2.50 a gallon, oil at $6.00 a quart is not so bad if the longevity of the 
engine is increases and keeps me out of buying a new $25K car. I change oil 
and filter every 10,000 miles like religion.  $25K buys allot of oil and 
maintenance.


Tom Scordato




































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Tom shared:

"My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a
reliable source."

Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine
very long?

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread OK Don

Well, it performed flawlessly today - around Albuquerque with a max
speed of 45. we spent the day touring the university and visiting the
mechanical engineering department. I'll take a closer look tomorrow.
I'm thinking a questionable tank of fuel, probably froma small station
in Tucumcari.

On 2/17/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not sure why, but the POS SDL liked to do that.  Ended up selling the
> car to Kaleb.
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 08:25 PM, OK Don wrote:
>
> > We drove to Albuquerque from OKC today - just got here. After the
> > final ten miles at only 65mph, I pulled off I-40 at my exit, came to a
> > stop light, where the engine promptly died. It took a bit of cranking
> > to start, and I had to hold throttle to keep it running. Same thing at
> > the next light. It worked fine at the third and forth stops.
> >
> > Any idea of what might have caused this? It's the first time I've
> > experienced anything like it in a Diesel.
> >
> > TIA -
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
> > '90 300D 243K, Rattled
> > '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
> > '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
> > '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
> > '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

Tucumcari
Jimmie Rodgers

Twelve more miles to Tucumcari
I've been hurrying there
To the gal I'm gonna marry
With the yellowest hair

{Left right march along
I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
Ten more miles to Tucumcari
Then I'll never more roam
(Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)

Eight more miles to Tucumcari
It's the fourth of July
Been three years in January
Since I kissed her goodbye

{Left right march along
I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
Six more miles to Tucumcari
Then I'll never more roam
(Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)

Four more miles to Tucumcari
Not much further to go
Got no time to waste or tarry
She'll be waitin' I know

{Left right march along
I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
Two more miles to Tucumcari
Then I'll never more roam
(Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)

Here I am in Tucumcari
Found my yellow-haired gal
Just in time to see her marry
With my very best pal

{Left right march along
Guess I better be gone} (I better be gone)
A thousand miles from Tucumcari
I'll be rambling on
(Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I'll be rambling on)

A hundred miles from Tucumcari
Down in Santa Fe
Fell in love with a girl named Mary
Gee I'm happy today

{No more marching now
Found my honeycomb} (found my honeycomb)
I've forgotten Tucumcari
No more reason to roam
(Tucumcari, Tucumcari)
I've forgotten Tucumcari
No more reason to rooom


On 2/17/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm thinking a questionable tank of fuel, probably from a small station
in Tucumcari.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread OK Don

Thanks, I needed that 

On 2/17/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tucumcari
> Jimmie Rodgers
>
> Twelve more miles to Tucumcari
> I've been hurrying there
> To the gal I'm gonna marry
> With the yellowest hair
>
> {Left right march along
> I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
> Ten more miles to Tucumcari
> Then I'll never more roam
> (Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)
>
> Eight more miles to Tucumcari
> It's the fourth of July
> Been three years in January
> Since I kissed her goodbye
>
> {Left right march along
> I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
> Six more miles to Tucumcari
> Then I'll never more roam
> (Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)
>
> Four more miles to Tucumcari
> Not much further to go
> Got no time to waste or tarry
> She'll be waitin' I know
>
> {Left right march along
> I've just gotta get home} (just gotta get home)
> Two more miles to Tucumcari
> Then I'll never more roam
> (Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I just gotta get home)
>
> Here I am in Tucumcari
> Found my yellow-haired gal
> Just in time to see her marry
> With my very best pal
>
> {Left right march along
> Guess I better be gone} (I better be gone)
> A thousand miles from Tucumcari
> I'll be rambling on
> (Tucumcari, Tucumcari, I'll be rambling on)
>
> A hundred miles from Tucumcari
> Down in Santa Fe
> Fell in love with a girl named Mary
> Gee I'm happy today
>
> {No more marching now
> Found my honeycomb} (found my honeycomb)
> I've forgotten Tucumcari
> No more reason to roam
> (Tucumcari, Tucumcari)
> I've forgotten Tucumcari
> No more reason to rooom
>
>
> On 2/17/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm thinking a questionable tank of fuel, probably from a small station
> in Tucumcari.
>
> Casey
> Olympia, WA
> Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
> '87 300TD intercooler (211k)
> '84 300D (210k)
> Gashuffer:
> '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
>
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'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey


It's a long, long way to Tucumcari...

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread kayoooh @ gmail

Kaleb,
Thanks for the link, nice group of people indeed.

So, which one are you, the one with reddish~brownish hair!? I apologize if
that was not you, it is just that gentleman looked like a Kaleb to me.
Also, I failed to spot the sleepless gentleman (AKA LT Don)! Not one of the
pictured attendees looked less than presentable.

I also, noticed someone was using a tow dolly, how safe/unsafe are they
compared to a car trailer and is one easier to handle/backup than the other?
I was told by someone, that a car dolly is not suitable for a car/truck with
an automatic transmission unless something is done to the
transmission/differential(or unless the vehicle is towed backwards!!) Do any
of you know if this is true and to what extent and what it is that needs to
be done as not to harm the transmission?

Thank you all,

Omar.

> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:20:57 -0600
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 113
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> http://www.schwag.org/~marmelmm/Images/OkieQ2005/
>
> kayoooh @ gmail wrote:
>
> > Is there a link to those pictures!?
> >
> > Omar.
> >
> >
> >>Message: 12
> >>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:41:14 +
> >>From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
> >>To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Message-ID:
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >>
> >>I didn't drive the longest distance, but did hold the record for the
most
> >>hours w/out sleep while attending. (Was up all day after having about
four
> >>hours sleep the previous night, then drove thru the night to OkieLand,
and
> >>then did the OkieQ -- all w/out my head hitting a pillow. That is why I
> >
> > look
> >
> >>like Lurch in the OkieQ 2005 pics.)

Re: [MBZ] Bought a Different 300D

2006-02-18 Thread kevin kraly

Hahahahahahaha!  It's amazing the claims of MPG and of money spent to 
convert to biodiesel when all it takes is viton fuel lines and only when 
running B100.  One is better off hunting in the Southwest or just about 
anywhere other than the rust belt for a good MB diesel at a reasonable 
price.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D project, biodiesel ready and probably has at least a million miles 
on it

Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617

2006-02-18 Thread Steve MacSween

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> swine,
> How ya been? There is a rubber seal on some injectors between the 2
> halves of the body, I pulled one out of a 1982 300CD and tossed in a
> later one no more leak. IIRC 83 up had a taper.
> 
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am

Berryman, long time you go away nice to see you back in the
neighbourhood.

It stopped as fast as it started. Today it seems fine. Odd.

Okay, so this isn't a prechamber carboning issue, or a bad rings issue, or
is it all part of the picture?

Cause the question is, what's the oil doing up in the injector, to begin
with? It was oil, not diesel, trust me there was a LOT and it stank big time
when it ran down the block.

I was planning the pull the injectors after the winter, anyway, and getting
them rebuilt.

Mac Back

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey


I also, noticed someone was using a tow dolly, how safe/unsafe are they
compared to a car trailer and is one easier to handle/backup than the 
other?


They're plenty safe, so far as I know.  You basically cannot back them
up, unless you're quite good at it.  It's really two trailers in a row
you're towing.

I was told by someone, that a car dolly is not suitable for a 
car/truck with

an automatic transmission unless something is done to the
transmission/differential(or unless the vehicle is towed backwards!!) 
Do any
of you know if this is true and to what extent and what it is that 
needs to

be done as not to harm the transmission?


There is basically nothing made that I know of that can have an
automatic tranny and be towed any significant distance or speed
with the driven wheels down, _unless_ it has a transfer case with
a Neutral setting.  (Big pickups, in other words.)  FWD cars are
easy, just put the driven (front) wheels on the dolly.  For RWD,
the rear wheels have to be on the dolly, but then you've got to
freeze the steering mechanism or risk a whip-induced wreck.  Or,
put the front wheels on and drop the driveshaft.

Trailers are brainless.  Lash car on and go.  That's why they're
so popular.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:52:12 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, it performed flawlessly today - around Albuquerque with a max
> speed of 45. we spent the day touring the university and visiting the
> mechanical engineering department. I'll take a closer look tomorrow.
> I'm thinking a questionable tank of fuel, probably froma small station
> in Tucumcari.

What are your plans for driving in New Mexico? If you come up north,
there's Santa Fe and Los Alamos (where I am).


Craig

[MBZ] Cheap SDL in OK City ...

2006-02-18 Thread Craig McCluskey

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-LOW-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4613254600QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--- 
Craig McCluskey

Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 221 kmi
   Past: 1964 190Dc
 1972 220D/8
 1972 220/8
 1987 190E/2.3

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[MBZ] 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 EURO MODEL

2006-02-18 Thread Craig McCluskey

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300D-2-5-EURO-Diesel-RARE_W0QQitemZ4614223685QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Craig

[MBZ] Another One Goes Down

2006-02-18 Thread B Dike

I finally got all the interior lights on the 82 300CD replaced.   New glow plug 
in #1, engine starting great.  ACC working  perfectly.  New wipers.  Radio 
playing again. Everything  cleaned up. 

  And then it gets totalled.  Sandwiched between a van and a pickup.  Only a 
small knot on the back of my head.  The mom and kid in the  van that plowed 
into me are ok.

  I'll try to salvage the car.  I think the front frame can be  straightened.  
I'll look into starting the project only after  everything is settled.

  But it took the hit.  I guess that's ultimately what they were built for and 
why we drive them.

Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
73 220D 'It'

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I'm glad to hear that you're ok.  The MB did its job, and you walked away.
You can always buy another one, but you only have one "you."

If you want another CD, there was a girl (no affiliation) selling a
near-perfect 84 CD near here.

On 2/18/06, B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I finally got all the interior lights on the 82 300CD replaced.   New glo=
w
> plug in #1, engine starting great.  ACC working  perfectly.  New
> wipers.  Radio playing again. Everything  cleaned up.
>
>   And then it gets totalled.  Sandwiched between a van and a pickup.  Onl=
y
> a small knot on the back of my head.  The mom and kid in the  van that
> plowed into me are ok.
>
>   I'll try to salvage the car.  I think the front frame can
> be  straightened.  I'll look into starting the project only
> after  everything is settled.
>
>   But it took the hit.  I guess that's ultimately what they were built fo=
r
> and why we drive them.
>
>
> Bruce
> 82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
> 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
> 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
> 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
> 73 220D 'It'
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread David Brodbeck


Jim Cathey wrote:

There is basically nothing made that I know of that can have an
automatic tranny and be towed any significant distance or speed
with the driven wheels down, _unless_ it has a transfer case with
a Neutral setting.


Geo Trakkers were popular to tow behind motorhomes for quite a while, 
for exactly that reason. They had part-time 4WD with a transfer case. 
You often saw them being towed on all four wheels, with a tow bar.

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread mykd1

water in fuel maybe? clogged separator? 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
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Not sure why, but the POS SDL liked to do that.  Ended up selling the 
car to Kaleb.

On Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 08:25 PM, OK Don wrote:

> We drove to Albuquerque from OKC today - just got here. After the
> final ten miles at only 65mph, I pulled off I-40 at my exit, came to a
> stop light, where the engine promptly died. It took a bit of cranking
> to start, and I had to hold throttle to keep it running. Same thing at
> the next light. It worked fine at the third and forth stops.
>
> Any idea of what might have caused this? It's the first time I've
> experienced anything like it in a Diesel.
>
> TIA -
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '90 300D 243K, Rattled
> '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
> '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
> '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
> '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] Photos of W124 evaporator cleaning

2006-02-18 Thread Dave M.

James,

I used Nu-Calgon Evap Foam, from the local HVAC wholesaler for about
$7 per can. One can will clean two evaporators, foaming them down
maybe a half-dozen times each. A little goes a long way with this
stuff. I used a garden sprayer with water to rinse it out, although
they claim it's not required (the condensate will rinse it, I guess,
during A/C operation.) Here's a flyer for the cleaner:

http://ftp.nucalgon.com/ftp/prodlit/3-917.pdf

:)

-dm

> --
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:41:08 -0500
> From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photos of W124 evaporator cleaning
>
>
> what cleaner did you use?
>
> James Zavesky

Re: [MBZ] 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 EURO MODEL

2006-02-18 Thread Peter T . Arnold

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:46:46 -0700, you wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300D-2-5-EURO-Diesel-RARE_W0QQitemZ4614223685QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>

BRAND NEW HANKOOK Performance 16" Tires on Original 15" Mercedes-Benz
Wheels !
  Must help the fuel milage ??

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1987 300SDL  239KMI
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  190Kmi
1954 Mertopolitan Convertable, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread Peter T . Arnold

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:50:49 -0800, you wrote:

>> I also, noticed someone was using a tow dolly, how safe/unsafe are they
>> compared to a car trailer and is one easier to handle/backup than the 
>> other?
>
I'd think our cars could be towed 4 down as our trannys have rear
pumps to lube the gearbox.  Most Saturn's can be towed 4 down, very
popular with motor home crowd for that reason.


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Regards,

Peter T. Arnold

1987 300SDL  239KMI
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  190Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

[MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh

2006-02-18 Thread Bob DuPuy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300-SD-AMG-Turbo-DIESEL-GoRgEoUs_W0QQitemZ4614368041QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2C052AAC

I really like the grill, where can I get one like that... ha ha ha!

Bob D.

[MBZ] 12 degrees outside, headed to work

Well, its 12 degrees outside.  The 6.2 diesel suburban fired right up 
with 1 glow, we have a inch of ice on the roads followed by 2 inches of 
snow.  Didnt even try to fire up the 300D as its front tires are about 
worn out and didnt want to drive it on icy roads.  Now if the burb was 
only 4 wheel drive.  Headed to tulsa, will be LOTS of fun.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] '83 240D clutch won't work

2006-02-18 Thread Richard Murdoch

Gerry,
If the clutch plate is stuck to the fly wheel try jacking the back end up 
enough to get the tires off the ground.  Start the engine with the car in gear 
and step on the brakes.   (I had to do this more than once with an old Chevy 
truck.)

I wonder if the pressure plate is failing since there was a problem  before the 
vehicle was parked.

Richard Murdoch
82 240D
82 300TDt

> 
> From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/17 Fri AM 03:02:10 EST
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] '83 240D clutch won't work
> 
> My wifes '83 240D clutch won't release. I replaced the master and slave 
> cylinders, bled them with a pressure bleeder, and feel that the clutch is 
> depressing the way it previously has. Before this happened the clutch would 
> have to be depressed all the way to the floor in order to shift the 
> transmission.
> My wife had cancer and recently died. The last time she drove it, it would 
> not go into 3rd or 4th gear so she drove home in 2nd. The car sat for about 
> a year after that.
> When I recently tried to move it from the garage to the shop, the clutch 
> would not release. Thinking the disc might be stuck, I tried jerking the car 
> with the starter without success.
> I haven't been able to find anything about clutches other than maintainence 
> and inspection on the MB CD.
> 
> All help will be sincerely appreciated.
> Gerry Archer
> '83 240D & 300D 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread Mike Canfield

I use a tow dolly all of the time.  They work great even at highway 
speed.Just DON'T try to back one up.NOT fun..Mike
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:50:49 -0800, you wrote:

I also, noticed someone was using a tow dolly, how safe/unsafe are they
compared to a car trailer and is one easier to handle/backup than the
other?

I'd think our cars could be towed 4 down as our trannys have rear
pumps to lube the gearbox.  Most Saturn's can be towed 4 down, very
popular with motor home crowd for that reason.

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Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh

2006-02-18 Thread Sunil Hari

that's just auto abuse.  But at least he hasn't done an engine transplant,
where he replaced the 3.0L I5 with a 5.0L Mustang engine ...

On 2/18/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300-SD-AMG-Turbo-DIESEL-GoRgEoUs_W0QQitemZ4614368041QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> or
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2C052AAC
>
> I really like the grill, where can I get one like that... ha ha ha!
>
> Bob D.
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Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me

2006-02-18 Thread Richard Murdoch

Having similar symptoms with our 82TDt.  They are being caused by the vacuum 
shut off system.  If I pull the vacuum line off it runs just fine.

Richard Murdoch
82 240D
82 300TDt
> 
> From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 10:15:26 EST
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 died on me
> 
> > On 2/17/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm thinking a questionable tank of fuel, probably from a small station
> > in Tucumcari.

Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh

2006-02-18 Thread V Layton

This may put me in the criminal category but I can't wait to simulate a AMG 
to a W123 diesel.

Tastefully, of course.

They did merely pretty some up, so it's not a total poser move.

Diesel greatness with a little extra sporty style?  Best of both worlds!

Vince

From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:01:08 -0500

that's just auto abuse.  But at least he hasn't done an engine transplant,
where he replaced the 3.0L I5 with a 5.0L Mustang engine ...

On 2/18/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300-SD-AMG-Turbo-DIESEL-GoRgEoUs_W0QQitemZ4614368041QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>
> or
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2C052AAC
>
> I really like the grill, where can I get one like that... ha ha ha!
>
> Bob D.
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Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group

2006-02-18 Thread V Layton


I didn't.

You guys found me!

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Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh

2006-02-18 Thread tom savage


V Layton wrote:
This may put me in the criminal category but I can't wait to simulate a 
AMG to a W123 diesel.


Tastefully, of course.

They did merely pretty some up, so it's not a total poser move.

Diesel greatness with a little extra sporty style?  Best of both worlds!


Now you're talking! Vince, have you seen this? 
http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/index.htm


That would be just the ticket for hunting Hondas and Mustangs on South 
Lindbergh on Saturday nights. ;)


Tom

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2005 pics

2006-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey


I'd think our cars could be towed 4 down as our trannys have rear
pumps to lube the gearbox.  Most Saturn's can be towed 4 down, very
popular with motor home crowd for that reason.


I've heard that about Saturns, but never verified this.  For
whatever reason, even though our pre-mid-90's MB's do have
rear pumps they just don't care to be towed far/fast with
them.  I wonder if that's just MB being paranoid, or whether
there is a wear mechanism that's not addressed adequately
by the (tiny) rear pump?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE



On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 06:27 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the 
engine

very long?

Bob Rentfro



	That's up to you. Even though your oil is ending up on the ground, 
you're still getting the superior protection of synthetics. Most oil 
leaks can be repaired for less than the cost of a synthetic oil change, 
if labor is performed by yourself. I would run dino oil until I the 
major leaks under control, depending, of course on consumption. If it 
used a quart in 2- 3,000 mi, I'd stick with synthetic.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after that 
300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts 
instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next to 
the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! So 
col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates like 
crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!


Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on the 
console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose. 
So what's it supposed to do?


The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove it 
and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with snow! 
Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure is 
normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant temp 
stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks work, 
antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear all the 
details..


Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower them 
on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a button 
with a circle and arrows on it - ??


The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation, Service 
Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners Manual - 
what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure Performance 
sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk yards?  Do 
they sell them?


Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars - it's 
great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!


;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info

Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

2006-02-18 Thread Sunil Hari

The button with the circle of arrows is the air recirculation button.  The
headrests in the back are manually raised and lock into place, but the
button in front is to lower them only.

Also, which toggle on the console?

Owner's manual - ebay, junkyards.

My only issue is that it's really cold out and I don't want to do the
maintenance work on it right now.  Just because it's that cold.

On 2/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after that
> 300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
> instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next to
> the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! So
> col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates like
> crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!
>
> Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on the
> console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
> So what's it supposed to do?
>
> The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove it
> and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with
> snow!
> Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure is
> normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant temp
> stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks
> work,
> antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear all
> the
> details..
>
> Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower
> them
> on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a button
> with a circle and arrows on it - ??
>
> The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation,
> Service
> Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners Manual -
> what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure Performance
> sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk
> yards?  Do
> they sell them?
>
> Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars -
> it's
> great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!
>
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

2006-02-18 Thread Chuck Landenberger


Larry,

As for an Owner's Manual.  You can order one thru a dealership..   
Should be about $25 and takes a couple of weeks.  Of course, if you  
can find one for less... Go for it.


Congrats on the new wheels...  Sounds great and I can hear the  
OOOHHH's out here..!


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Feb 18, 2006, at 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again  
after that

300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button  
next to
the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat  
headrest! So
col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!
Accelerates like

crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!

Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle  
on the

console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
So what's it supposed to do?

The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test  
drove it
and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today  
with snow!
Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil  
pressure is
normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant  
temp
stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door  
locks work,
antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to  
hear all the

details..

Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to  
lower them
on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a  
button

with a circle and arrows on it - ??

The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls &  
Operation, Service
Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners  
Manual -
what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure  
Performance
sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk  
yards?  Do

they sell them?

Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other)  
cars - it's

great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!

;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Manuals



On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 06:46 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Do any aftermarket vendors sell them?
Guess I can check Hemmings ---

Thanks again for the info -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)



	I've dealt with Jeff ay TMC Publications for literature in the past. 
Nice guy, very helpful. I found him in Hemmings years ago.


(410)367-4490 i hope he's still in business. Located in/near Baltimore.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] 91 300D 2.5



On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 07:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Howdy -
Does this model have hydraulic / self-adjusting valves?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D 2.5 Turbo - tomorrow!)



Yes indeed it does.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] couple 124 questions

2006-02-18 Thread Sunil Hari

My 1992 300D needs some maintenance work.  A few questions, if you don't
mind.

1)  When checking ATF level, the maintenance manual says to shift to P, run
engine for 1 to 2 minutes, and check the fluid level.  While checking,
should the engine be running?  I ask because there's another line that says,
"With the transmission at operating temperature, the oil level should be at
the max mark."

2)  Power steering fluid - to replace it, I know you suck out what you can
out of the reservoir.  How do you get the rest out?  I tried to check
skinnerbox, but the site is down.

Thanks.

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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE

2006-02-18 Thread Chuck Landenberger


Bob,

If it's leaks that are of concern, I changed brand of oil last  
September in the '80 300SD.  I'm now using Castrol Tection Extra  
15W-40 and have found it has significantly reduced drips/leakage.  I  
imagine there is an additive that swells the seals.


Just a FWIW...  Burning lots of oil is another matter...

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix
1980 300SD
1986 190E 2.3 16V
On Feb 18, 2006, at 9:13 AM, John Berryman wrote:



On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 06:27 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to  
use

costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the
engine
very long?

Bob Rentfro



That's up to you. Even though your oil is ending up on the ground,
you're still getting the superior protection of synthetics. Most oil
leaks can be repaired for less than the cost of a synthetic oil  
change,

if labor is performed by yourself. I would run dino oil until I the
major leaks under control, depending, of course on consumption. If it
used a quart in 2- 3,000 mi, I'd stick with synthetic.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

Larry - you need to be more specific on the "toggle on the console".  I'm 
sure we can tell you what each switch does, if we know which one you are 
wondering about.
As for the rear headrests, they pull up manually, and the console switch 
drops them for improved rear visibility.  And where is this "button with a 
circle and arrows"?
I have the original owner's manual for my 1990 2.5, and can scan in/copy any 
pages you might need.


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)



Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after that
300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next to
the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! So
col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates like
crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!

Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on the
console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
So what's it supposed to do?

The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove it
and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with 
snow!

Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure is
normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant temp
stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks 
work,
antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear all 
the

details..

Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower 
them

on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a button
with a circle and arrows on it - ??

The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation, 
Service

Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners Manual -
what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure Performance
sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk yards? 
Do

they sell them?

Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars - 
it's

great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!

;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info

Re: [MBZ] couple 124 questions

Sunil - the engine should be running, in park, and the transmission 
thoroughly warmed up when checking the fluid level.
As for the PS fluid, some people take the extra trouble to try and get all 
the old oil out, but you don't do that when changing the engine oil (its 
nigh impossible to drain the oil cooler), so just sucking out the reservoir 
and replacing the filter and fluid there should suffice, especially if its 
done on a regular basis (30k miles).  You could disconnect the retune line 
and let the engine idle for the few seconds needed to pump out the old oil, 
but that risks 1) running the system dry, and 2) making a mess and possible 
future leaks by disturbing the hose/clamp connection.

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] couple 124 questions



My 1992 300D needs some maintenance work.  A few questions, if you don't
mind.

1)  When checking ATF level, the maintenance manual says to shift to P, 
run

engine for 1 to 2 minutes, and check the fluid level.  While checking,
should the engine be running?  I ask because there's another line that 
says,
"With the transmission at operating temperature, the oil level should be 
at

the max mark."

2)  Power steering fluid - to replace it, I know you suck out what you can
out of the reservoir.  How do you get the rest out?  I tried to check
skinnerbox, but the site is down.

Thanks.

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474

Re: [MBZ] Pumping oil out of injectors OM617



On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 11:37 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:


Berryman, long time you go away nice to see you back in the
neighbourhood.


Thanks Steve.


It stopped as fast as it started. Today it seems fine. Odd.


Don't ya just hate intermittent problems.


Okay, so this isn't a prechamber carboning issue, or a bad rings 
issue, or

is it all part of the picture?


	I can't say that it isn't. Just picture a goopy diesel intake. How 
does all that get in there?


Cause the question is, what's the oil doing up in the injector, to 
begin
with? It was oil, not diesel, trust me there was a LOT and it stank 
big time

when it ran down the block.


	I thought I was leaking oil when that seal let go. what I was seeing 
was dirty fuel, I figured it was expelling some carbon in solution.

How was oil consumption prior to this event?


I was planning the pull the injectors after the winter, anyway, and 
getting

them rebuilt.


	Try to find a rebuild-able set of newer ones if possible. I haven't 
seen all that many blow that seal out but it obviously happens. Could 
be that the 2 halves weren't torqued properly on assembly or maybe they 
vibrate loose.


Mac Back



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

2006-02-18 Thread Desert Rat

That toggle switch might be for the passenger side mirror. Manuals can
be had on Ebay or call MBUSA for a new one.

Larry, why are your diesels running so cold? Diesels need to run
warmer than what you have indicated.

Sounds like a great car...what color is it?
On 2/18/06, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry - you need to be more specific on the "toggle on the console".  I'm
> sure we can tell you what each switch does, if we know which one you are
> wondering about.
> As for the rear headrests, they pull up manually, and the console switch
> drops them for improved rear visibility.  And where is this "button with a
> circle and arrows"?
> I have the original owner's manual for my 1990 2.5, and can scan in/copy any
> pages you might need.
>
> Werner
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:21 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)
>
>
> > Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after that
> > 300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
> > instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next to
> > the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! So
> > col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates like
> > crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!
> >
> > Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on the
> > console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
> > So what's it supposed to do?
> >
> > The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove it
> > and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with
> > snow!
> > Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure is
> > normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant temp
> > stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks
> > work,
> > antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear all
> > the
> > details..
> >
> > Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower
> > them
> > on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a button
> > with a circle and arrows on it - ??
> >
> > The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation,
> > Service
> > Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners Manual -
> > what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure Performance
> > sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk yards?
> > Do
> > they sell them?
> >
> > Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars -
> > it's
> > great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)



On Saturday, February 18, 2006, at 11:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



and the coolant temp
stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.


	It should run at least 80C. May have a bad thermostat or corroded 
sender connection.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh

2006-02-18 Thread V Layton

No, but I love it!  That engine work is way out of my league, but I know 
enough that what I'm looking at poses a million questions.

South Lindbergh?  OMG I remember doing that in high school a couple times!  
Don't think we got the full benefit of it though, just seemed like a big 
traffic jam in a parking lot to me, did witness a goober 5 mph wreck there 
once though.  I live sooo close to there, cut through all the time.  I don't 
think they do that anymore, especially since they took the theater out.

But you're right.  Hell, I'd love to blow some minds at a national MBCA 
autocross event!  Because smoking brand new AMGs with a 21+ year old diesel 
staion wagon would be so very, very wrong!

If you see the latest MB Classic mag, there's a photo of an Italian at MB 
Classic days held in Salzburg who blew some minds with his stock 240TD, 
simply by driving with his huge Italian cahonies.  I saw some pretty gutsy 
driving when I was in Rome.

Thanks for the memory flashback!

Vince

From: tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:54:26 -0600

V Layton wrote:
> This may put me in the criminal category but I can't wait to simulate a
> AMG to a W123 diesel.
>
> Tastefully, of course.
>
> They did merely pretty some up, so it's not a total poser move.
>
> Diesel greatness with a little extra sporty style?  Best of both worlds!

Now you're talking! Vince, have you seen this?
http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/index.htm

That would be just the ticket for hunting Hondas and Mustangs on South
Lindbergh on Saturday nights. ;)

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

Thanks!  I'll check it out.  A new t'stat is easy enough and will allow me 
to peek at the coolant. I'll probably flush it and replace with the MB stuff 
when the weather warms a little.


Thanks again,
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)




On Saturday, February 18, 2006, at 11:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


and the coolant temp
stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.


It should run at least 80C. May have a bad thermostat or corroded
sender connection.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

Thanks-- I'll check the t stat - also - the toggle in on the center 
console - between the front window switches. It's pretty loose - flops from 
side to side. It's probably for the right side mirror as you suggest - the 
drivers side is manually set.


I'll check ebay for a manual -- 


Thanks!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "Desert Rat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)



That toggle switch might be for the passenger side mirror. Manuals can
be had on Ebay or call MBUSA for a new one.

Larry, why are your diesels running so cold? Diesels need to run
warmer than what you have indicated.

Sounds like a great car...what color is it?
On 2/18/06, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Larry - you need to be more specific on the "toggle on the console".  I'm
sure we can tell you what each switch does, if we know which one you are
wondering about.
As for the rear headrests, they pull up manually, and the console switch
drops them for improved rear visibility.  And where is this "button with 
a

circle and arrows"?
I have the original owner's manual for my 1990 2.5, and can scan in/copy 
any

pages you might need.

Werner

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)


> Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after 
> that

> 300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
> instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next 
> to
> the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! 
> So
> col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates 
> like

> crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!
>
> Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on 
> the

> console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
> So what's it supposed to do?
>
> The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove 
> it

> and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with
> snow!
> Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure 
> is
> normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant 
> temp

> stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks
> work,
> antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear 
> all

> the
> details..
>
> Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower
> them
> on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a 
> button

> with a circle and arrows on it - ??
>
> The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation,
> Service
> Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners 
> Manual -
> what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure 
> Performance
> sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk 
> yards?

> Do
> they sell them?
>
> Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars -
> it's
> great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!
>
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Manuals


Hi John,
Id forgotten about TMC - it;s run by a guy named Roger if it;s the same 
place.  Was *big* into literature.  I bought my 72 280SE 4.5 from him - 
picked it up the same weekend that Nicklaus won the masters for the last 
time.  I was driving it home and missed it.  Oh well.  Roger used to buy MB 
stuff from me from time to time - back when I operated a mail order MB parts 
business.  Back before everybody and his brother was doing it.


I'll give him a call - I;m sure he's still in Hemmings.

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Manuals




On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 06:46 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Do any aftermarket vendors sell them?
Guess I can check Hemmings ---

Thanks again for the info -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)



I've dealt with Jeff ay TMC Publications for literature in the past.
Nice guy, very helpful. I found him in Hemmings years ago.

(410)367-4490 i hope he's still in business. Located in/near Baltimore.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Hate finding this stuff

2006-02-18 Thread kevin kraly

$150 is pretty good for an engine!  If it runs, that's even better.  There 
are a few PNP yards within 20 miles of my house, so if things get bad with 
this little 220D engine, I'll certainly be checking into that.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D project

Re: [MBZ] 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 EURO MODEL

2006-02-18 Thread JFreezn

 
In a message dated 2/17/2006 10:50:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300D-2-5-EURO-Diesel-RARE_W0
QQitemZ4614223685QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I wonder how they got those 16 inch tires on the 15inch rims.   

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 EURO MODEL

That car isn't only "rare", its also a much slower - any small normally 
aspirated Diesel engine in a heavy car is not a good idea, especially once 
you've had a "turbo" experience!

Werner

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 EURO MODEL

In a message dated 2/17/2006 10:50:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-Mercedes-Benz-300D-2-5-EURO-Diesel-RARE_W0
QQitemZ4614223685QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I wonder how they got those 16 inch tires on the 15inch rims.

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] Blue Bomber running

2006-02-18 Thread Luther Gulseth

Just started it again today and paid attention to the oil pressure.  Let  
it run for about 10-15 seconds, and the oil pressure never moved off of  
zero.  Ran the RPM's up to about 2k, and nothing.  Could this be the  
reason 10 years ago they thought there was a hole in the block, no oil  
pressure?  Could that be causing the knocking we hear?


On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:43:02 -0600, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Started it tonight after work.  It sounds like something is loose
somewhere, a metal on metal knocking sound.  I reved it up to around
2300rpm and the noise went away, and it sounds like a finely tuned MB
diesel.  What knocking sounds might be present in the sub 1200rpm range
that go away above that?  I recorded the sound, so I can send it out if
the sight/sound will help.





--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (158,xxx kmi)
'82 300D  (74,000 kmi) alive and needing work
'90 300E (parts or run?)

Re: [MBZ] Blue Bomber running

If you've run that now a few times (and rev'd it up to boot) with no oil 
pressure, the engine is probably toast.  The knocking sound could be almost 
anything flailing around inside the engine if the lubrication has failed.
Of course, it could be a failure of the sensor/indicator for oil pressure, 
but most of the time, no one can be that lucky!


Werner

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blue Bomber running



Just started it again today and paid attention to the oil pressure.  Let
it run for about 10-15 seconds, and the oil pressure never moved off of
zero.  Ran the RPM's up to about 2k, and nothing.  Could this be the
reason 10 years ago they thought there was a hole in the block, no oil
pressure?  Could that be causing the knocking we hear?

Re: [MBZ] oil leaking from ignition lock vacuum lines - '80 300D

2006-02-18 Thread Barry Stark

Mac -
It is also good practice to put a line filter in the vacuum line. It looks
kinda like a inline paper element fuel filter. If the paper starts to turn
black then you know that oil is present and you can fix it before the vacuum
lines get contaminated again. I bet Marshall even has the part number for it
in his bag of tricks.

Barry

-

..>Not really.  They can also leak oil into the lines, but it tends
>to migrate everywhere.  Knock down the problems as you find them.
>Your pump may also leak, but there's no need to go there without
>evidence.  Flushing the oil out of the existing fouled lines will
>give you should-be-clean lines to examine later.

>-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] CONSOLE TOGGLE

2006-02-18 Thread RELNGSON

You may be referring to a hat switch with a little arrow on top. Outside 
mirrors.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)