Re: [MBZ] face cords

[RELNGSON]

Seems to me that it's illegal to advertise or sell so-called face cords in 
Washington State. Lots of crooks in the firewood bidness, apparently.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Bike

[Christopher McCann]

in mid-town Kansas City, you can get rid of almost ANYTHING by leaving it on 
the curb...1 week max, then it's gone...less if it's metal, esp. nowadays.

Chris



Funny side note: I realized recently that I could "dispose" of a bike I
didn't want by leaving it on my front porch. There was a bike that was still
useful to me, but it was cheap and had some problems and I would have to get
rid of it soon, which would mean paying the fee at the recycling center. So
I left it unlocked on our porch and continued to use it. Sho 'nuff, one day
it was removed for me. I'm gonna try another one soon that we need out of
our garage.




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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT) B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  And do the old loop style GPs *ever* burn out?

Yes, they do. They get narrow at a point (typically the place where the
fuel sprays). This point then gets hotter than the rest of loop and sooner
or later, burns out.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Bike

[Hendrik Riessen]

We have had them over here for quite some time, complete with auto 
transmission and other fancy stuff but like everything else in the 
stealership, very expensive.


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It seems like they offered one several years ago...it was in the back of
that fancy-schmancy mag they used to send out periodically to people who
either bought parts or who were on some kind of mailing list. Seems like 
it

was around $3K.

Bob R

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Just found this on AOL news..Mercedes is building a bike

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/28/mercedes-benz-rolls-out-new-line-of-bicycles/

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Re: [MBZ] Humour

[Hans Neureiter]

I guess the Krauts have not heartd of HD.
A guy sitting next to me just sold his Fatboy to some other guy.
A stacked chick walkes across the room and he says "Oh man"
The guy on my other side says to hiom:"If you had a Harley, you could get her".

On 3/24/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And I am searching for an acceptable vulgar euphemism to describe which
sort of driver is the biggest.

--R("Rich" not "Dick")

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
>
> BMW means "Brings Me Women!"
>
> According to a new German car magazine survey, BMW drivers have all the
> luck.
>
> BMW drivers have more sex than owners of any other cars and are much more
> active than Porsche drivers. The German magazine "Men's Car" found in a
> survey of 2,253 motorists aged 20 to 50 published in its inaugural May issue
> that male BMW drivers say they have sex on average 2.2 times each week while
> Porsche drivers have sex 1.4 times per week. Following BMW drivers were Audi
> (2.1), Volkswagen (1.9), Ford (1.7) and Mercedes (1.6). Drivers of foreign
> car makes were also behind BMW with Italian cars (2.0), French (1.9),
> Japanese (1.8), Swedish (1.6) and Korean cars (1.5) trailing after. Among
> women, French car drivers were top with 2.1 times per week followed by Audi
> (2.0), Italian (2.0), and BMW (1.9) with Porsche again at the bottom of the
> scale at 1.2 times per week.
>
>
>
> Yes but if stipulate that the sex must be with a partner the results are
> quite different.
>
> Hendrik
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[LarryT]

Darn - a little farther than 10 mi.  I'm near Richmond, Va.
;-(

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At 10:42 AM 3/24/2007, Jim wrote:

>>> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.


 {snip)

 A thrown cord of 18" long wood is about 180 cubic ft,  of
24"  length about 195, and when stacked 128.

 A seasoned cord usually weighs between 2500 and 3500 pounds
depending on species.  The heavy stuff is best.

 Live within ten miles of me and I will dump a full two cord
load on you for $150.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Kris Gilmore]

At 10:42 AM 3/24/2007, Jim wrote:

>>> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.


 {snip)

 A thrown cord of 18" long wood is about 180 cubic ft,  of 
24"  length about 195, and when stacked 128.


 A seasoned cord usually weighs between 2500 and 3500 pounds 
depending on species.  The heavy stuff is best.


 Live within ten miles of me and I will dump a full two cord 
load on you for $150.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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[MBZ] Culprit Found

[B Dike]

Dieselvolk,

I finally tracked down the hard starting problem with our brand new 74 240D.  
It was starting fine, then one morning it suddenly took excessive cranking and 
barely started.  It had all the hallmarks of a bad GP as so often happens with 
the W123s, so I immediately swapped all of them out...with absolutely no 
effect.  DRATS!  I had it on on a heavy bio diet, so I changed the fuel filters 
(which were crudded up badly)...again, no effect.   Out comes the volt meter, 
and the GPs registered 8.5, 5.4, 4.1, and 1.6 volts...wait a minute, why is 
plug 4 lead 8.5V and not 12 V?  New GP fuse (is it really supposed to be a red 
16A?)...no effect.  Hold on, the GP wires leading to and from the fuse box 
shouldn't be wiggling that much...in fact there should be ZERO movement...grab 
a phillips and crank down on the fuse terminal screws...voila!  Problem solved.

Some day I will learn to check the simple things first.  And do the old loop 
style GPs *ever* burn out?

V/R


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Somewhere right around a ton.

Mike
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> Mike wrote:<>
>
> Wow!  Take's one heck of a pickup truck bed to hold all that!
> ;-)
>
> I wonder how much that weighs?  I know, it's hard to say since wood is
> different and seasoned is different still.
>
> Never mind -
>
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> From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
>> To be exact a face cord measures 4' x 8' x 18" and a full cord is 4' x 4'
>> x
>> 8'.
>>
>> Mike
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>> From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 6:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters
>>
>>
 Jim Cathey wrote:
> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.
>>>
>>> I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and
>>> height
>>> of a cord but not the depth.
>>> The depth only goes as far as one stick of wood - about 25" long.  where
>>> a
>>> full cord is 3 X's that deep.
>>> IIRC - YMMV
>>> ;-)
>>>
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>>> 

Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

[LarryT]

I've had the tremendous *displeasure*  to ride with some people who only had 
2 speeds - on & off.


My elderly F-I-L took that one step farther - whenever he approached an 
intersection - even in the suburbs - he was hard on the brakes then he road 
the brakes as he passed the roads that intersected.   Over and freakin over 
again.  To say anything was useless - he was focussed on driving and 
*nothing* else got thru to him...Thankfully he stopped driving one day.  I 
think he got scared somehow - came home, ut his keys on the hook and said, 
"I'm never driving again."  Which was the best for all involved.


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interesting story about that.  i bought a wagon from my watchmaker
with the warning that it goes through transmissions, as do all
mercedes.  he'd replaced the transmission twice in 150k miles and the
current one was about to go as well.  he also had to  replace trannies
on his 300SD and his 126 300SE.  (he had similar problems with
mercedes halfshafts as well)

i didn't know what to think until i drove with him one day.  he
basically drove every moment as if he was competing at indy.  i've had
that wagon for 5 years now and the transmission is still as it was the
day i bought it from him.

On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

. "Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas"

Could that be why some only get 30K out of a tranny???
pedal every time they get the chance
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>I was going to say this some time ago, but knew it would just be joke
> fodder.
>
> Aside from falling on its face after the clutch gets let out 
> completely,

> my
> 240D accelerates as fast as I normally accelerate.
>
> I am not delusional though - I realize that I prefer to accelerate much
> slower than most people do. Most peoples' default mode is to mash the 
> gas

> pedal every time they get the chance, then accelerate until reaching an
> obstacle, then follow it closely. Have to laugh when some of these 
> people

> have some sort of "green" sticker displayed.
>
> Dwight wrote:
>
> My brother's stick 240D is really peppy.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Tom Hargrave]

That's one reason I cut my own. But I'll also value shop at the end of
the heating season. The local wood peddlers will have quite a few cords
left & I'll go make an offer for a couple of cords at the end of the
heating season. The price 'can' drop dramatically.

Tom Hargrave
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That's some really messed up wood sellin' goin' on there.

Mike
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>A face cord is a stack 4' high X 8' long by whatever length you ordered
the
> wood cut. Wood peddlers around here sell a face cord as a cord and a
face
> cord is usually an over filled pickup truck load. They will load the
truck
> from a pre-measured stack.
>
> Also, a face cord normally sells for the same price as a cord because
the
> cost per stick to cut the wood is exactly the same.
>
> At least around here, to get a true cord of wood you'd need to order
your
> wood cut into 4' lengths.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
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>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
 A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.
>
> And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
> in the center, all the way back.  The guys that deliver
> commercially usually have plywood sides on the truck.  They
> way to do that is to make a reference stack (or ten) then
> load the truck.  Once you're used to how a full cord looks
> in the truck then you dispense with the reference stacking.
>
>>
>> I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and
>> height
>> of a cord but not the depth.
>
> A stack of single sticks of wood 4' high 8' long is a face cord.
> Not a particularly useful measure for any commercial purpose.
>
>> Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full
>> height or you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get ...
>> Dodge Dakota ... narrower ... 6' bed ... S10 ... 3 trips
>
> I said pickup truck, not grocery getter!  :-)  My Dodge diesel
> laughs at such paltry loads.  That pair of concrete barrier blocks
> that weighed some 9000# it _did_ notice.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Curt Raymond]

Yeah well...
It tows good, http://home.gwi.net/~craymond/tractor/part4/rollingout.jpg 4500# 
tractor on about a 1000# trailer...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:42:05 -0700
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>>> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.  The guys that deliver
commercially usually have plywood sides on the truck.  They
way to do that is to make a reference stack (or ten) then
load the truck.  Once you're used to how a full cord looks
in the truck then you dispense with the reference stacking.

>
> I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and 
> height
> of a cord but not the depth.

A stack of single sticks of wood 4' high 8' long is a face cord.
Not a particularly useful measure for any commercial purpose.

> Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full
> height or you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get ...
> Dodge Dakota ... narrower ... 6' bed ... S10 ... 3 trips

I said pickup truck, not grocery getter!  :-)  My Dodge diesel
laughs at such paltry loads.  That pair of concrete barrier blocks
that weighed some 9000# it _did_ notice.

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Mike wrote:<>

Wow!  Take's one heck of a pickup truck bed to hold all that!
;-)

I wonder how much that weighs?  I know, it's hard to say since wood is 
different and seasoned is different still.

Never mind -

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> To be exact a face cord measures 4' x 8' x 18" and a full cord is 4' x 4' 
> x
> 8'.
>
> Mike
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> From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 6:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters
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>
>>> Jim Cathey wrote:
 A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.
>>
>> I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and
>> height
>> of a cord but not the depth.
>> The depth only goes as far as one stick of wood - about 25" long.  where 
>> a
>> full cord is 3 X's that deep.
>> IIRC - YMMV
>> ;-)
>>
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ji

Re: [MBZ] w 108 wheel bearing noise

[Peter Frederick]

The universal joint can go bad in those cars, it's user replaceable, I 
think, held in place with circlips.  they can grind when dry.


Diff noises change with load and speed -- a steady "tram car" sound 
that changes pitch with speed unrelated to engine speed is likely a 
diff noise, it will appear to be loudest in the front of the 
trunk/center of the rear seat area.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mike Canfield]

That's some really messed up wood sellin' goin' on there.

Mike
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A face cord is a stack 4' high X 8' long by whatever length you ordered the
wood cut. Wood peddlers around here sell a face cord as a cord and a face
cord is usually an over filled pickup truck load. They will load the truck
from a pre-measured stack.

Also, a face cord normally sells for the same price as a cord because the
cost per stick to cut the wood is exactly the same.

At least around here, to get a true cord of wood you'd need to order your
wood cut into 4' lengths.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.  The guys that deliver
commercially usually have plywood sides on the truck.  They
way to do that is to make a reference stack (or ten) then
load the truck.  Once you're used to how a full cord looks
in the truck then you dispense with the reference stacking.



I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and
height
of a cord but not the depth.


A stack of single sticks of wood 4' high 8' long is a face cord.
Not a particularly useful measure for any commercial purpose.


Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full
height or you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get ...
Dodge Dakota ... narrower ... 6' bed ... S10 ... 3 trips


I said pickup truck, not grocery getter!  :-)  My Dodge diesel
laughs at such paltry loads.  That pair of concrete barrier blocks
that weighed some 9000# it _did_ notice.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I dont know if I won or not, nobody every contacted me.  I will probably 
abandon the texas cars for kids deal, seems to be to big a hassle.


Rich Thomas wrote:
Did you ever figure out the auction process?  Did you "win?"  If so did 
you actually acquire the goods?


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. 
So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real 
auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already 
bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? 
  Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder.  That seems 
like there is online bidding going on right now.
  



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Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:46:56 -0400 "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > That deer lashing story does sound exactly like other stuff I've
> > heard from Patrick F. McManus.  (A Spokane resident!)
>
> And one VERY funny author!

So, you're saying that the deer experience didn't happen to Roger
personally?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

[Gary Hurst]

interesting story about that.  i bought a wagon from my watchmaker
with the warning that it goes through transmissions, as do all
mercedes.  he'd replaced the transmission twice in 150k miles and the
current one was about to go as well.  he also had to  replace trannies
on his 300SD and his 126 300SE.  (he had similar problems with
mercedes halfshafts as well)

i didn't know what to think until i drove with him one day.  he
basically drove every moment as if he was competing at indy.  i've had
that wagon for 5 years now and the transmission is still as it was the
day i bought it from him.

On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

. "Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas"

Could that be why some only get 30K out of a tranny???
pedal every time they get the chance
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>I was going to say this some time ago, but knew it would just be joke
> fodder.
>
> Aside from falling on its face after the clutch gets let out completely,
> my
> 240D accelerates as fast as I normally accelerate.
>
> I am not delusional though - I realize that I prefer to accelerate much
> slower than most people do. Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas
> pedal every time they get the chance, then accelerate until reaching an
> obstacle, then follow it closely. Have to laugh when some of these people
> have some sort of "green" sticker displayed.
>
> Dwight wrote:
>
> My brother's stick 240D is really peppy.
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Re: [MBZ] oh boy

[Rich Thomas]

Could be the first Benz donk in pleasant prairie, WI.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mike Canfield]

To be exact a face cord measures 4' x 8' x 18" and a full cord is 4' x 4' x 
8'.


Mike
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Jim Cathey wrote:

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and 
height

of a cord but not the depth.
The depth only goes as far as one stick of wood - about 25" long.  where a
full cord is 3 X's that deep.
IIRC - YMMV
;-)

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Jim Cathey wrote:

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


... if you can pile it to an average depth of 4'
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/cord.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

[ts]

. "Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas"

Could that be why some only get 30K out of a tranny???
pedal every time they get the chance
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I was going to say this some time ago, but knew it would just be joke
fodder.

Aside from falling on its face after the clutch gets let out completely, 
my

240D accelerates as fast as I normally accelerate.

I am not delusional though - I realize that I prefer to accelerate much
slower than most people do. Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas
pedal every time they get the chance, then accelerate until reaching an
obstacle, then follow it closely. Have to laugh when some of these people
have some sort of "green" sticker displayed.

Dwight wrote:

My brother's stick 240D is really peppy.
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Re: [MBZ] mobile 1

[ts]

Kalep I noticed a few weeks back our Walmart in State College PA was 
carrying the 15-50 m1 "non extended" again with th 15-50 extended also on 
the shelf.

Wish they would make up their minds/Tom
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Subject: [MBZ] mobile 1



OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended
performance.  Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23
something.  The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts.  Is the TDT still
the same as delvac 1.
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[MBZ] oh boy

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i wondered about this when i saw it a month ago, but since you brought
it up,...   ;-*

criminy,...very little special about these bikes except the logo,
and most of what actually *is* special isn't good.

couldn't see any real detail on the upscale 'racing' bike, but at
least it gets Campagnolo componentry; if it's the top-of-the-line Record
group and the frame is at least decent, the bike's not out of the range
of normal for extreme high-end bikes... but there's still nothing
special about it. most modern leading-tech carbon fiber bikes are made
in a monocoque process now anyway; the tube-to-tube process touted in
this article was long abandoned by most (bicycling) industry leaders.

the other models are completely ridiculous; the frames are nothing
special, and the componentry is much too low on the scale to be worth
anything like what they're asking for them.
and what's with the accessories on the Trekking model? did anyone
really need the extra complexity of a sensor-activated lighting system,
or was a reliable switch just not sexy enough? while dynamos and
battery-backup lights are cool, there's nothing new about them either;
i've got some that are decades old already. (Sanyo Dynapower, VeloLux,
etc.,...)
the rack especially looks cheesy; exactly like the low-end
adjustable generic models we've seen for decades, not even solid units
that are made to fit.
and the brakes; like the racks, made by Topeak fer crissakes...?!
cycle computers; this one looks like it has all the features that
were state-of-the-art in the early '80s.

OK, enough; i need to go ride a *real' bike.   ;-)


cheers!
e


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Re: [MBZ] Drivable on Modern Roads, was 240D

[Zoltan Finks]

I was going to say this some time ago, but knew it would just be joke
fodder.

Aside from falling on its face after the clutch gets let out completely, my
240D accelerates as fast as I normally accelerate.

I am not delusional though - I realize that I prefer to accelerate much
slower than most people do. Most peoples' default mode is to mash the gas
pedal every time they get the chance, then accelerate until reaching an
obstacle, then follow it closely. Have to laugh when some of these people
have some sort of "green" sticker displayed.

Dwight wrote:

My brother's stick 240D is really peppy.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Bike

[Zoltan Finks]

I know that there has been a bike made that bore the MB name across the top
tube. In fact, I remember an episode of "Cops" where they set out on the
street as bait and then busted the thieves. I love that.

Funny side note: I realized recently that I could "dispose" of a bike I
didn't want by leaving it on my front porch. There was a bike that was still
useful to me, but it was cheap and had some problems and I would have to get
rid of it soon, which would mean paying the fee at the recycling center. So
I left it unlocked on our porch and continued to use it. Sho 'nuff, one day
it was removed for me. I'm gonna try another one soon that we need out of
our garage.

Also, I don't really know what Mercedes can bring to the bike world - there
is already a range of quality and flash that runs the gamut. Maybe they're
offering an "automatic transmission" like I've seen on an infomercial?

Brian


On 3/24/07, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It seems like they offered one several years ago...it was in the back of
that fancy-schmancy mag they used to send out periodically to people who
either bought parts or who were on some kind of mailing list. Seems like
it
was around $3K.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Benny Hill?

[Steve MacSween]

Or, to be more precise, Todd and Kaleb on Banned.

Mac

on 3/23/07 23:46, LT Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In 2007, we have a word to describe that: Banned.
> 
> On 3/23/07, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Benny Hill is straight from the British music hall tradition, what nowadays
>> we would call lowest common denominator.
>> 
>> 
> 

[MBZ] w 108 wheel bearing noise

[.Afzaal.Khan.]

I have not been able to  isolate the  grating kind of noise  my 1970 280S has . 
   I have replaced the most suspected  parts , drive shaft centre bearing and 
the wheel bearings -all four wheels,  still the noise continues .
 Could it be the bearing at the dirrerential end  near the  drive shaft? 
All inputs will be appreciated.
thanks
mak 

[MBZ] columbus cl 300TE

[Sunil Hari]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/299571457.html

anyone want me to inquire?

--
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Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids

[Rich Thomas]

Did you ever figure out the auction process?  Did you "win?"  If so did 
you actually acquire the goods?


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. 
So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real 
auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already 
bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? 
  Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder.  That seems 
like there is online bidding going on right now.
  

Re: [MBZ] Humour

[Rich Thomas]

And I am searching for an acceptable vulgar euphemism to describe which 
sort of driver is the biggest.


--R("Rich" not "Dick")

Hendrik Riessen wrote:


BMW means "Brings Me Women!"

According to a new German car magazine survey, BMW drivers have all the 
luck.


BMW drivers have more sex than owners of any other cars and are much more 
active than Porsche drivers. The German magazine "Men's Car" found in a 
survey of 2,253 motorists aged 20 to 50 published in its inaugural May issue 
that male BMW drivers say they have sex on average 2.2 times each week while 
Porsche drivers have sex 1.4 times per week. Following BMW drivers were Audi 
(2.1), Volkswagen (1.9), Ford (1.7) and Mercedes (1.6). Drivers of foreign 
car makes were also behind BMW with Italian cars (2.0), French (1.9), 
Japanese (1.8), Swedish (1.6) and Korean cars (1.5) trailing after. Among 
women, French car drivers were top with 2.1 times per week followed by Audi 
(2.0), Italian (2.0), and BMW (1.9) with Porsche again at the bottom of the 
scale at 1.2 times per week.


  

Yes but if stipulate that the sex must be with a partner the results are 
quite different.


Hendrik

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[MBZ] Y'all need this

[Rich Thomas]

For when you are too busy working on the car to go inside and eat.

--R

http://www.everythingcarz.com/shop/Tool-Silverware-m158.html

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Tom Hargrave]

A face cord is a stack 4' high X 8' long by whatever length you ordered the
wood cut. Wood peddlers around here sell a face cord as a cord and a face
cord is usually an over filled pickup truck load. They will load the truck
from a pre-measured stack.

Also, a face cord normally sells for the same price as a cord because the
cost per stick to cut the wood is exactly the same.

At least around here, to get a true cord of wood you'd need to order your
wood cut into 4' lengths.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

>>> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.  The guys that deliver
commercially usually have plywood sides on the truck.  They
way to do that is to make a reference stack (or ten) then
load the truck.  Once you're used to how a full cord looks
in the truck then you dispense with the reference stacking.

>
> I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and 
> height
> of a cord but not the depth.

A stack of single sticks of wood 4' high 8' long is a face cord.
Not a particularly useful measure for any commercial purpose.

> Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full
> height or you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get ...
> Dodge Dakota ... narrower ... 6' bed ... S10 ... 3 trips

I said pickup truck, not grocery getter!  :-)  My Dodge diesel
laughs at such paltry loads.  That pair of concrete barrier blocks
that weighed some 9000# it _did_ notice.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[Rich Thomas]

That winter the Sound was frozen solid for several weeks, they were 
having to fly heating oil over to the island to keep the winter folk 
from freezing.  The big blizzard was in 78 (THAT was lots of fun!) but I 
think you are right, the freeze was a year or two later.


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LT Don wrote:

Shame you guys don't have the American Coast Guard to assist with these
situations.   :-)

In the winter of '80 (I think it was, might have been '79 or '78) we rescued
the SAME GUY THREE TIMES by helicopter because he tried to walk from Cape
Cod to Nantucket over the frozen water. (You non US- or non right-coast guys
consult a map to get the full impact -- you can't fix stupid.)
  
  

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Jim Cathey]

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


And by full, I mean FULL.  Mounded up above the roof height
in the center, all the way back.  The guys that deliver
commercially usually have plywood sides on the truck.  They
way to do that is to make a reference stack (or ten) then
load the truck.  Once you're used to how a full cord looks
in the truck then you dispense with the reference stacking.



I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and 
height

of a cord but not the depth.


A stack of single sticks of wood 4' high 8' long is a face cord.
Not a particularly useful measure for any commercial purpose.


Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full
height or you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get ...
Dodge Dakota ... narrower ... 6' bed ... S10 ... 3 trips


I said pickup truck, not grocery getter!  :-)  My Dodge diesel
laughs at such paltry loads.  That pair of concrete barrier blocks
that weighed some 9000# it _did_ notice.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Bike

[Bob Rentfro]

It seems like they offered one several years ago...it was in the back of 
that fancy-schmancy mag they used to send out periodically to people who 
either bought parts or who were on some kind of mailing list. Seems like it 
was around $3K.


Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

[Royce Engler]

Rich, 

I'm real sorry to hear about your dogs.  I hope somebody nails the b*st*rds
that are responsible.  This is Texas, man, you don't mess with our dawgs.

Royce

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

[Gary Hurst]

that's some pretty sound advice!

On 3/24/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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getting rid of Vista because it is screwing up their machines.  At
least in Seattle.

I just sold my B/W G3 to a fellow at M$.  Said he wanted a machine
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Curt Raymond]

Might be in a full sized 3/4 ton pickup... 1/2 ton you can't go full height or 
you'll be draggin the rear end too low to get out of the woods. Ask me how I 
know this, I've got a great story about leaving a muffler in the bush.

I however have a Dodge Dakota which is narrower and only has a 6' bed. I can 
only fill as high as the top of the bed before it also is hanging pretty low. 
It might be close to a half cord but its a long way from a full cord.
My friend sold me a full cord last fall and delivered it in an S10, took him 3 
trips so yeah I guess the Dakota might hold a half.
Sweet, I've got twice as much wood than I thought I did.

-Curt

> My wife and I together using the manual splitter can cut split and 
> stack a quarter cord (approximately, whatever fits in one pickup load 
> anyway)
> in about 4 hours which I think is pretty impressive.

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

-- Jim






 
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Re: [MBZ] Best way to trouble shoot window, 1979 240D

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Tom,

Did you get what you needed on this?  I did mine last spring and printed off
the pages from the CD-let me know. It was not a bad job-worst part was the
little white plastic spacer that had broken and wedged-I had to destroy it
to get window out.  Also hadn't thought to order a new one, so the new
window rattles a bit side to side  now but the lift works just fine. Paid 52
for the new lift from Rusty.

HTH

Dwight

 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

1979 240D-250K + miles

1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles

Wickford, RI

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Now that weather is getting better time to fix my window that went plop this


winter.  Anyone ever do this repair.  Heck I do not even know what is wrong 

yet.

Window came off track,  I think regulator goes up and down.  Any thoughts 

would be a help.  Front passenger window.Thanks

 

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Re: [MBZ] Reh roping

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well, when you consider that nine reindeer can make a sled, with a fat guy 
in a suit (plus a load of toys), fly. Then one deer should have a fair bit 
of power, I certainly wouldn't entertain the idea of tying myself to a deer.


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What do you mean, complete?

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[MBZ] Mercedes Bike

[mykd1]

  
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Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[LarryT]

Back in the early part of 20th century, the Chesapeake Bay would freeze 
(perhaps almost) completely over.  The area between Norfolk and Hampton - 
about 4 miles wide - and people would build shacks to sell sandwichs and 
coffee to people walking across.


Hasn't done that in a while although 1944/45 was a record cold year. The 
Battle of the Bulge gave the Germans a advantage for a while - the weather 
kept our air cover from supporting the ground pounders.


Here in Va we still get the ocassional ice storm - last was 95 or 96 IIRC - 
my Mom & Mother in Law lived with us then and we had to find a place with 
heat for them.  Coated everything with a beautiful coat of ice and  then 
destroyed all the power lines and large % of trees - terrible destruction. 
Our  power was out for 7 days starting on Christmas Eve that year.


Fun, fun, fun.
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:03 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Shame you guys don't have the American Coast Guard to assist with these
situations.   :-)

In the winter of '80 (I think it was, might have been '79 or '78) we
rescued the SAME GUY THREE TIMES by helicopter because he tried to walk
from Cape Cod to Nantucket over the frozen water. (You non US- or non
right-coast guys consult a map to get the full impact -- you can't fix
stupid.)


You're right; how he could expect the 10 miles or so of Nantucket Sound
between the sand bars to freeze solid enough to walk on is pretty amazing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[LarryT]

Jim Cathey wrote:

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


I believe that's what they call a "face cord" - it has the width and height 
of a cord but not the depth.
The depth only goes as far as one stick of wood - about 25" long.  where a 
full cord is 3 X's that deep.

IIRC - YMMV
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Jim Cathey wrote:

A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.


... if you can pile it to an average depth of 4'
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/cord.htm

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Re: [MBZ] SL windows

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Glen -
I had the glass come out of the guide shoe on my 107 and the folks that had
previously installed my windshield sold me a "glue kit" to effect a repair.
I think it was basically some sort of epoxy. These were the folks that come
out to replace your windshield wherever your car is parked. About $10 for
the kit as I recall.

Barry
Does anyone, other than J. Cathey as I've already contacted him), have any
experience with the "guide shoe" on the 450SL electric windows.  Glued or
press-fit to the glass?  TIA.

G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

[Zoltan Finks]

Hey Rich,

I don't want to make you tired of the same wishes, but honestly, as someone
whose four-legged buddy was just about his only buddy for several years,
it's hard to imagine how hard this must be for you. Wish you the best.

I have a rather spacey friend - somewhat older lady who is into Dobies like
I am. She talks about her belief that her departed companions are "waiting
for her at the bridge". I think there's a whole story surrounding this that
many subscribe to.

Also, I always grew up being taught in my system of belief that animals
don't have a soul and thus simply return to dust upon death. But I have
heard lately that some theologians are now proclaiming (as many have
apparently in the past) that the animals that we love will actually be
present in Heaven. I am still skeptical about that. What about the billions
of animals that nobody loves?

But if it's true, I'll have to abandon my tactic of saying "That's okay, I
won't be sad when you die!" when my particularly spirited Dobie causes me
frustration. This tactic sure did help me though, when my extraordinary
"Magnum" died a couple years ago. During the grieving, I just remembered the
very real and multitudinous times that he made me so mad I didn't know what
to do.

Just some thoughts.

brian


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I know this clogs up the mail list, but in this case I really want to
get out the info, cause this is a real serious problem ---

So I just saw now that they think the stuff killing pets is rat poison
that was in Chinese wheat used to make the food.  Our 10 yr old dog died
about 6 weeks ago, miserably, from massive internal bleeding.  Despite
the best care we could get her she still did not make it.  Our other dog
(2yo) was sick about the same time but got better after going on some
other food.  Vet had asked if they had gotten into any rat poison as
that kind of bleeding is a symptom, and both being sick at the same
time.  Now I see that the canned stuff I mixed in with their food, and
bought new from the store (Safeway Priority brand) just before that
time, was made by this company.

I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.

Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your
pantry...

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

[John M McIntosh]

Surely Microsoft wouldn't hamper and delete competitor products,  
certainly not ones they want to crush and destroy so they can take over
those $100 a year update fees? No, I mean they were convicted once  
already by the USA Govt for such nonsense...   Surely not again.


I guess you could start
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/themes/vista/compatibility.jsp
and start wading...
I couldn't wade too far because symantec at some point bitched I  
wasn't using IE 5.5 or higher (yes I know)... Also I use form of  
windows either, better things to do with my time.


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Any and all,

  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and  
it won't let us install security software...it just erases  
it...suggestions?  Do we need to be logged into an admin account or  
something?


  Thanks,


Bruce

Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

[Jim Cathey]

  We installed Vista Home Premium on one of our home computers, and it 
won't let us install security software...it just erases 
it...suggestions?


Did you tell the annoying guy in the glasses "Allow"?

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Re: [MBZ] Reh roping

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> < would
> tie himself to an deer.>>
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vista

[LT Don]

Yes. Send me your address off-list and I will send you a Linux CD.

D.


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  Thanks,


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[MBZ] OT: Vista

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Any and all,
   
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to be logged into an admin account or something?
   
  Thanks,


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getting rid of Vista because it is screwing up their machines.  At  
least in Seattle.

I just sold my B/W G3 to a fellow at M$.  Said he wanted a machine  
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Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Mike Canfield]

And one VERY funny author!

Mike
- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience



Have you ever heard of the book called "The Grasshopper Trap"?
I forget the author's name.


That deer lashing story does sound exactly like other stuff I've
heard from Patrick F. McManus.  (A Spokane resident!)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Jim Cathey]

Have you ever heard of the book called "The Grasshopper Trap"?
I forget the author's name.


That deer lashing story does sound exactly like other stuff I've
heard from Patrick F. McManus.  (A Spokane resident!)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[LT Don]

Might have been '77. The late 70s are sort of a SAR blur to me. Get up, go
to work, fly for eight hours, go to bed, get up, repair avionics, ... er,
repeat for a tour.

I know that the entire northeast was one solid block of ice, probably
touched Maryland during the process.

A co-worker lived at a low cul-de-sac, with stuff thawing one and only one
day and then refreezing overnight (and remaining frozen for over a MONTH).
His car tires were in a 6" block of ice. Those of us who lived on higher
ground gave rodes to the hangar for the folks who lived on lower ground.

Those who couldn't get to work stayed home. Those of us who could get to
work racked up some serious SAR hours in the aircraft. We sort of put duct
tape over the eyes of those who were tracking legal flight hours per day --
a wink wink nod nod situation.

On 3/23/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Don,

Was that maybe '77?  I lived near Annapolis at the time and the
entire froze rock solid.  Folks were building fires on the ice.
There was no Frostbite Sunday series that year.

Take care,

Chuck
On Mar 23, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:57:17 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> The ice was maple-hardwood-floor solid -- about three feet thick.
>
> Must have been really COLD!
>
>
>> There were actually some folks who successfully walked from Cape
>> Cod to
>> Nantucket that winter -- a once in several lifetimes experience
>
> I take it it's a rather infrequent experience.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Mike Canfield]

Have you ever heard of the book called "The Grasshopper Trap"?  I forget the 
author's name.  I just finished reading it and if you enjoyed this story 
half as much as I did you must read it.  Very funny stuff Roger.  I, Toni 
and my neighbor were all rolling with laughter!!!


Mike
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience


I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it
up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in
this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that since they congregated at 
my
cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a 
bold

one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in
the back of the truck not 4 feet away) that it should not be difficult to 
rope
one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it Down) then hog 
tie

it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, who had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were 
not
having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up... 3 of them. I 
picked
out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw 
my
rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around 
my

waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just
stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the
whole rope situation. I took a step towards it. It took a step away. I put a
little tension on the rope and received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand there
looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you
start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT
stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could 
fight
down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance. That thing ran and 
bucked

and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting
close to it.

As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it
occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea 
as I

originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much
stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not 
nearly as
quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took 
me a

few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing
out of the big gash in my head.

At that point I had lost my taste for corn fed venison. I just wanted to
get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it 
go
with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and 
painfully

somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer.
At that moment, I hated the thing and I would venture a guess that the 
feeling

was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various 
large rocks

as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to
recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of
responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to 
have to
suffer a slow death. I managed to get it lined up to back in between my 
truck and

the feeder... a little trap I had set beforehand. Kind of like a squeeze
chute. I got it to back in there and started moving up so I could get my 
rope back.


Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have
thought that a deer would bite somebody so I was very surprised when I
reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. 
Now, when
a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite 
you
and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head almost like a pit 
bull.

They bite HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is
probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking
instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and 
shaking
for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being 
smarter
than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now) tricked it. 
While
I kept it busy tearing the be Jesus out of my right arm, I reached up with 
my

left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day. Deer will
strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet
and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are
surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that when an animal like a 
horse strikes at

you with their hooves and you can't

Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[Chuck Landenberger]

Don,

Was that maybe '77?  I lived near Annapolis at the time and the  
entire froze rock solid.  Folks were building fires on the ice.   
There was no Frostbite Sunday series that year.


Take care,

Chuck
On Mar 23, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:57:17 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



The ice was maple-hardwood-floor solid -- about three feet thick.


Must have been really COLD!


There were actually some folks who successfully walked from Cape  
Cod to

Nantucket that winter -- a once in several lifetimes experience


I take it it's a rather infrequent experience.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:19:31 -0500 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jim Cathey wrote:
> > A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.
> 
> ... if you can pile it to an average depth of 4'
> http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/cord.htm

But since a piece of plywood (4' x 8') can lie flat between the wheel
wells, a pickup bed is wider than four feet. So it doesn't have to be
quite 4' high.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT Tiger

[Redghost]

I am getting really good at tearing apart the eMac.  Already have two  
machines up on Tiger.   Might have to purchase a few 5 gig drives and  
snag some cheap eMac tiger disks to sell as a set on eBay.


On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:15 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

So, Instead of busting the eMac apart to get at the drive, I just  
use a

Firewire drive (had to use firewire DVD to install to the eMac) and
install to that?



If you have a functioning firewire-equipped machine, and the
deader is so-equipped, just hook a cable between them and use
target disk mode of the deader.  (Boot with its T key held down.)

It shows up in the installer as another destination disk.  Slick,
and easy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:57:17 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The ice was maple-hardwood-floor solid -- about three feet thick.

Must have been really COLD!


> There were actually some folks who successfully walked from Cape Cod to
> Nantucket that winter -- a once in several lifetimes experience

I take it it's a rather infrequent experience.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Veedubs

[LT Don]

I'll give you $100 cash for any of them that still run.

On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


During my military period, I had a 36hp Beetle that made lots of trips
from
L.A to Seattle on leave and L.A to SFO on weekend passes. It's only real
challenge was climbing the Grapevine, either direction at 45mph flat out
in 3rd
gear.

I've owned four 36hp VWs, two Beetles and two K-Gs, one a Cab. Those were
the
days..

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight

[LT Don]

Reminds me of visitin' the mother-in-law during marriage #1 (rural Maine).

Those were the good old days (Maine, not wife).

On 3/23/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We use cast iron to cook on the woodstove every day..Nothing cooks
better than cast on a woodstove.You guys are slackin'...LOL

Mike





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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight

[LT Don]

1954 was a good year, Wilton. I turned TWO on Christmas Eve.   :-)

Don


On 3/23/07, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Wife used a cast iron griddle/pan couple days ago to "fix" a grilled
cheese
for me.  I made it and a couple of frying pans in foundry lab at NC State
College in 1954 and gave 'em to her mother.  The pans and wife are by now
"well-seasoned."
Also made a large cast iron fish-frying pan, but we've never used it.
Daughter took it several yrs ago; doubt if she's used it.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[LT Don]

The ice was maple-hardwood-floor solid -- about three feet thick.

Except "Magellan"  never thought to take a compass (dumb-ass!) so once he
lost the horizon, he wandered around as lost as Stevie Wonder in a blizzard
white-out. Once, my bad. Twice, you're an idiot. Three times, we will drop
bread crumbs from the helicopter and you can race the sea gulls back to
shore.

Should have become a current day Jonah, but God smiles on certain
individuals lacking brains and/or common sense. The fact that I have reached
the ripe old, ... umm, MIDDLE AGE ... of 54 is living testimony to this
rule.

I seem to remember the hoist operator on the last rescue helicopter telling
this individual (and I will NOT testify to this under oath, in the finest
Bush-administration tradition): "Next time, you can just die, MoFo!"

Or, as we say in "my field of work" from time to time, YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.


There were actually some folks who successfully walked from Cape Cod to
Nantucket that winter -- a once in several lifetimes experience -- but they
went prepared with rucksacks, food, flashlights, and ... du'h! ... a
freekin' compass and map.

Again, you can't fix stupid.

D.

On 3/23/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:03 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Shame you guys don't have the American Coast Guard to assist with these
> situations.   :-)
>
> In the winter of '80 (I think it was, might have been '79 or '78) we
> rescued the SAME GUY THREE TIMES by helicopter because he tried to walk
> from Cape Cod to Nantucket over the frozen water. (You non US- or non
> right-coast guys consult a map to get the full impact -- you can't fix
> stupid.)

You're right; how he could expect the 10 miles or so of Nantucket Sound
between the sand bars to freeze solid enough to walk on is pretty amazing.


Craig

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[MBZ] Humour

[Hendrik Riessen]

BMW means "Brings Me Women!"

According to a new German car magazine survey, BMW drivers have all the 
luck.


BMW drivers have more sex than owners of any other cars and are much more 
active than Porsche drivers. The German magazine "Men's Car" found in a 
survey of 2,253 motorists aged 20 to 50 published in its inaugural May issue 
that male BMW drivers say they have sex on average 2.2 times each week while 
Porsche drivers have sex 1.4 times per week. Following BMW drivers were Audi 
(2.1), Volkswagen (1.9), Ford (1.7) and Mercedes (1.6). Drivers of foreign 
car makes were also behind BMW with Italian cars (2.0), French (1.9), 
Japanese (1.8), Swedish (1.6) and Korean cars (1.5) trailing after. Among 
women, French car drivers were top with 2.1 times per week followed by Audi 
(2.0), Italian (2.0), and BMW (1.9) with Porsche again at the bottom of the 
scale at 1.2 times per week.






Yes but if stipulate that the sex must be with a partner the results are 
quite different.


Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] Benny Hill?

[LT Don]

In 2007, we have a word to describe that: Banned.

On 3/23/07, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Benny Hill is straight from the British music hall tradition, what nowadays

we would call lowest common denominator.





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Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Hendrik Riessen]

I don't think Rodger is the famous deer roper, only a complete moron would 
tie himself to an deer.


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From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience



Hmmm!  I admire the trust you have placed in your fellow Benz lovers
on this list...

Oh, by the way, what newspaper covers the area in which you live?
Should provide lots of enjoyment to your fellow residents.

Only kidding!  No, I wouldn't do that!

Next time just shoot the deer, because it attacked you!

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Mar 23, 2007, at 4:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
feed it



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Re: [MBZ] OT Dog food warning

[Steve MacSween]

on 3/23/07 14:28, Rich Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I think that sh*t killed her.  Damn.
> 
> Anyone else have anything happen to their animals?  Clean out your pantry...

The media coverage around here (at least this AM) was misleading as it never
mentioned the long list of names this stuff was sold under, only the main
name. I had better make a couple of calls to friends ASAP as I recognize
their pets' brands on the list.

My cat suddenly got very ill about two weeks ago. At the time I had tried a
new brand of food that was supposed to lessen  hairballs, I wondered at the
time but never imagined a brand name from a large supplier would be
problematic.

Yikes.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Benny Hill?

[Steve MacSween]

on 3/23/07 19:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I preferred "The Two Ronnies" to Benny Hill.
> 

The Two Ronnies had brilliant writers and their delivery and timing made up
for any occasional obvious gags.

Benny Hill is straight from the British music hall tradition, what nowadays
we would call lowest common denominator.

Of course, were he still alive he would probably have a current affairs
political show on Fox News.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:03 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Shame you guys don't have the American Coast Guard to assist with these
> situations.   :-)
> 
> In the winter of '80 (I think it was, might have been '79 or '78) we
> rescued the SAME GUY THREE TIMES by helicopter because he tried to walk
> from Cape Cod to Nantucket over the frozen water. (You non US- or non
> right-coast guys consult a map to get the full impact -- you can't fix
> stupid.)

You're right; how he could expect the 10 miles or so of Nantucket Sound
between the sand bars to freeze solid enough to walk on is pretty amazing.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] deer story

[Chuck Landenberger]

Don't know whether you were talking to me or not, but no nattering,  
just funnin'!  I enjoyed your story.  Have you ever considered a  
writing career?

Take care,

Chuck

On Mar 23, 2007, at 7:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




What are you nattering on about here?

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:
> A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

... if you can pile it to an average depth of 4'
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/cord.htm

Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:43:03 -0500 "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


> On 3/23/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Reminds me of a tape I heard about a drunk hitting a deer, stopped to
> > help it and seeing it dead put it in his back seat so he could take it
> > home for future dinners.  Part way home the deer decided he wasn;t
> > dead and didn;t like being driven around.  He proceeded to kick the
> > hell out of the driver who is relating the story to the 911 operator. 
> > It was hilarious.  Just like your experience.
> >
> > You'd have thunk playing with deer would be so much fun?
>
> Deer?
> It used to be MOOSE day.
> How we get so low.

But a moose won't fit in your car ...


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Gullible

[LT Don]

Shame you guys don't have the American Coast Guard to assist with these
situations.   :-)

In the winter of '80 (I think it was, might have been '79 or '78) we rescued
the SAME GUY THREE TIMES by helicopter because he tried to walk from Cape
Cod to Nantucket over the frozen water. (You non US- or non right-coast guys
consult a map to get the full impact -- you can't fix stupid.)

On 3/23/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The last person that tried to row to Kiwi got lost and has not been seen
since.





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Re: [MBZ] deer story

[RELNGSON]

> Dear gullible #2:
> 
> < on this list...
> 
> Oh, by the way, what newspaper covers the area in which you live?  
> Should provide lots of enjoyment to your fellow residents.>>
> 
What are you nattering on about here?

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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300SDL  (WDBCB25D5HA304962) no indication of an odometer rollback or 
tampering was found. We calculate odometer rollbacks by using AutoCheck 
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Report Date: 03/23/2007
Date Reported  Odometer Reading
07/14/1995  225,605



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Below are the historical events f

Re: [MBZ] Correction: was 240D is it worth it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

the ones I love I do.  Looking to ad a few more cars to the fleet in the 
very near future.  Looking like perhaps a 85 300TD, 87 300TD, 93 300E 
4matic.  Just not sure yet though


OK Don wrote:

Hey - that was months ago. We didn't think you held onto cars that long! ;-)

On 3/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

crap, I thought everyone already knew about that SDL of mine, I posted
pics when I got it.  Im really attatched to it.





--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Tiger

[Jim Cathey]

So, Instead of busting the eMac apart to get at the drive, I just use a
Firewire drive (had to use firewire DVD to install to the eMac) and
install to that?


If you have a functioning firewire-equipped machine, and the
deader is so-equipped, just hook a cable between them and use
target disk mode of the deader.  (Boot with its T key held down.)

It shows up in the installer as another destination disk.  Slick,
and easy.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Jim Cathey]

you can power the pump by your unimog pto or a motor the next piece is 
a 3

or 4 inch hydraulic cylinder.  The rest you can build from scrap.


Was going to build my own, but got employed.  There's just not
enough spare time to do this, versus just buying something.


If its good straight wood I can split about half a cord in 8 hours.


Tamarack splits if you just look at it funny.  The fir usually
pops nicely with a whack or two of the axe.  The ponderosa pine,
the bulk of what we get, is twisty and has to be forced apart.
Splits like elm, burns like pine.  Oh, and for whatever reason
a pine fire still has a few coals in the morning, fir will be
completely dead.  So I make sure to stoke up in the evening
with pine.

My wife and I together using the manual splitter can cut split and 
stack a quarter cord (approximately, whatever fits in one pickup load 
anyway)

in about 4 hours which I think is pretty impressive.


A full pickup load is a cord.  Very roughly.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[Hans Neureiter]

Deer?
It used to be MOOSE day.
How we get so low.

On 3/23/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I kept expecting this story should have started out with one redneck saying
to another,  "Hey, watch this.!"

Perhaps, "Hold my beer."

;-)

Reminds me of a tape I heard about a drunk hitting a deer, stopped to help
it and seeing it dead put it in his back seat so he could take it home for
future dinners.  Part way home the deer decided he wasn;t dead and didn;t
like being driven around.  He proceeded to kick the hell out of the driver
who is relating the story to the 911 operator.  It was hilarious.  Just like
your experience.

You'd have thunk playing with deer would be so much fun?

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
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.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience


I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it
up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in
this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that since they congregated at
my
cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a
bold
one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in
the back of the truck not 4 feet away) that it should not be difficult to
rope
one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it Down) then hog
tie
it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, who had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were
not
having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up... 3 of them. I
picked
out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw
my
rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around
my
waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just
stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the
whole rope situation. I took a step towards it. It took a step away. I put a
little tension on the rope and received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand there
looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you
start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT
stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could
fight
down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance. That thing ran and
bucked
and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting
close to it.

As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it
occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea
as I
originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much
stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not
nearly as
quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took
me a
few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing
out of the big gash in my head.

At that point I had lost my taste for corn fed venison. I just wanted to
get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it
go
with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and
painfully
somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer.
At that moment, I hated the thing and I would venture a guess that the
feeling
was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various
large rocks
as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to
recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of
responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to
have to
suffer a slow death. I managed to get it lined up to back in between my
truck and
the feeder... a little trap I had set beforehand. Kind of like a squeeze
chute. I got it to back in there and started moving up so I could get my
rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have
thought that a deer would bite somebody so I was very surprised when I
reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist.
Now, when
a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite
you
and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head almost like a pit
bull.
They bite HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is
probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking
instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer

Re: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience

[LarryT]

I kept expecting this story should have started out with one redneck saying 
to another,  "Hey, watch this.!"


Perhaps, "Hold my beer."

;-)

Reminds me of a tape I heard about a drunk hitting a deer, stopped to help 
it and seeing it dead put it in his back seat so he could take it home for 
future dinners.  Part way home the deer decided he wasn;t dead and didn;t 
like being driven around.  He proceeded to kick the hell out of the driver 
who is relating the story to the 911 operator.  It was hilarious.  Just like 
your experience.


You'd have thunk playing with deer would be so much fun?

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Roping a deer, a learning experience


I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it
up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in
this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that since they congregated at 
my
cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a 
bold

one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in
the back of the truck not 4 feet away) that it should not be difficult to 
rope
one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it Down) then hog 
tie

it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, who had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were 
not
having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up... 3 of them. I 
picked
out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw 
my
rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around 
my

waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just
stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the
whole rope situation. I took a step towards it. It took a step away. I put a
little tension on the rope and received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand there
looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you
start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT
stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could 
fight
down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance. That thing ran and 
bucked

and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting
close to it.

As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it
occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea 
as I

originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much
stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not 
nearly as
quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took 
me a

few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing
out of the big gash in my head.

At that point I had lost my taste for corn fed venison. I just wanted to
get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it 
go
with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and 
painfully

somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer.
At that moment, I hated the thing and I would venture a guess that the 
feeling

was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various 
large rocks

as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to
recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of
responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to 
have to
suffer a slow death. I managed to get it lined up to back in between my 
truck and

the feeder... a little trap I had set beforehand. Kind of like a squeeze
chute. I got it to back in there and started moving up so I could get my 
rope back.


Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have
thought that a deer would bite somebody so I was very surprised when I
reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. 
Now, when
a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite 
you
and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head almost like a pit 
bull.

They bite HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is
probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking
instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and 
shaking
for several minutes, but it w

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight

[Mike Canfield]

We use cast iron to cook on the woodstove every day..Nothing cooks 
better than cast on a woodstove.You guys are slackin'...LOL


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 6:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Harbor Freight


Wife used a cast iron griddle/pan couple days ago to "fix" a grilled 
cheese

for me.  I made it and a couple of frying pans in foundry lab at NC State
College in 1954 and gave 'em to her mother.  The pans and wife are by now
"well-seasoned."
Also made a large cast iron fish-frying pan, but we've never used it.
Daughter took it several yrs ago; doubt if she's used it.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mike Canfield]

We burn a good 5-6 cords a winter.  I split it all by hand.  Keeps me from 
getting too lazy.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters



10 cords, each measuring 8' long by 4' tall by 4' deep.

I'll burn 2 - 3 cords at the house every winter. I hand split my wood
one winter -  I know I spent 4 hours / week for at least 3
months

But I guess it was "good for me".

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com


Original Message
From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/23/07 11:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Rich Thomas wrote:

You guys are total wimps.  Big sledge hammer and a wedge, or a maul.
"It wahms ya twice" as they say down Maine.


I believe Jim mentioned 10 "cords" (that term is pretty meaningless to
me, other than "a lot") of wood...

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