Re: [MBZ] Climate control unit 300SDL
Also when I push the off button it shuts off but then turns on again, I can hold the off button and it stays off Cracked solder joints around the button array. That, in fact, is a fairly easy DIY repair once you get the unit out. Easier, cheaper, and faster to just fix your own than to actually locate a suitable replacement, which itself may or may not have already failed in that way or be about to do so. You probably don't have to solder the whole thing, which is another order of difficulty. That and some contact cleaner shot into the switches while you have it apart and it should be good for another good long time. I've fixed three (out of three) that way. (One each 126, 124, and 201.) And several more of the earlier types (126, 123, 107) that have no ACC brain inside, just switches and relays. In fact, I've never not been able to repair an ACC panel just by resoldering. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate control unit 300SDL
Send your old PBU to me and I'll rebuild it instead of throwing it away. I have a handful of scrap ones and can swap in a new switch if that's the issue. Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:51 -0600, 87 300SDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; I have a 87 300SDL and the PBU to select the fan is starting or is making a clicking noise (mind of it's own) Also when I push the off button it shuts off but then turns on again, I can hold the off button and it stays off it's like that button is bad, or releases enough that the fan turns back on. So I was wondering what other models of the W126 PBU would swap with a 300SDL. Would a unit from a 560SEL 86-91 work? Thanks RC -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]
Yeah mine has the hole for the hose from the brake fluid reservoir to the clutch master cylinder but had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. Now I have to work out the electrics, the reverse lights and starter inhibitor are straight forward, then there is the kick down circuit, which I don't think I'll need anymore and have the proper plug for putting under the pedal but there is another circuit wired into the starter inhibitor, this one goes to the cross over thingamagigy for engine revs or something. Anyway I'll wire it all in such a way that if I need to muck around with anything later it will be easy to get to. Hendrik who gave the tranny a damn good wash down today Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:59:34 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is now a 300D with a manual transmission (123.130). Once I got all the parts, everything just bolted up. There was even a plug in the hole for the hydraulic line for the clutch. I just removed the plug and fed the hydraulic line through it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
The only experience I had with it was a couple of years ago when a servo sold some E10 and touted it as premium 95 octane. As my 230E has a taste for 95 I decided to chuck some in, ran like a dog and was still feeling ill a couple of tankfuls of other fuel later. Stayed clear of that stuff since. Hendrik Gary Hurst wrote: how bad is the ethanol? all the chevron stations around here are now marked up to 10% ethanol On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad idea
dangerous with one of the newer can bus cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage spikes. Yeah, my heart skipped a beat on that one too. This is the very reason that the '07 Dodge Ram wasn't used to jump the '95 Rodeo who's batttery had gone dead. The 300sD wasn't there, so the '91 Rodeo did the job. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad idea
Guess that's the last time you'll get the fancy car. Far as jump starting 'new' cars with fancy electronics, far as I know it is still doable but the penalties for stuffing it up are har$her. There should be a section in the operators manual about this but *always* connect the positive ends first and then double check to make sure the + is connected to the + on the other vehicle and make sure you only connect 12v and 12v. This is where people have stuffed up and hence the bogeyman warns you about jumping new cars. Once + and + are connected and the voltage matches you may connect the - to the - but make sure that - don't touch + by mistake. Hendrik who once connected a 12v ute to a 24v truck but because the truck was the one with weak batteries all that happened was that the lights on the ute got a bit brighter about the time I remembered that the old truck was a positive earth 24v creation from pommie land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant. When it was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked for a jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up towards the front of his old bomb.. Oh boy. This sort of thing is very dangerous with one of the newer can bus cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage spikes. You should have known better. As to the deactivation of the passenger airbag with the seat empty, it's supposed to be that way. What kind of a warning? My car has a very small warning lit up whenever the set is empty but it's not in the instrument cluster. And of course, being a '08 model is an electronic generation or two newer. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad idea
dangerous with one of the newer can bus cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage spikes. A lot of the danger can be mitigated by making sure the donor car is OFF when you hit the patient's starter. That and, of course, making sure you use proper cabling procedure. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps
had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obviously went through the same hole that the slushbox's electrical cable used to use. That was a 201. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Yale. Funny my wife and I were talking about this just this morning. She said I can't believe somebody as dumb as him could get through Yale. I replied with Well he did have a 1.5GPA... Yep, our president was a D+ student. As I remember John Kerry was a C- or something around it.. Just did a check and I was off, IMDB (what the hell?) says 2.35GPA which they call a gentlemanly C average. I had a 3.18 but of course I didn't go to Yale. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:07:43 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It is well known he's not good with speaking. You suggest he's downright stupid. For all I know that's true. I do think, though, that there are many different ways to be smart. I do kind of resent that the guy got through Harvard without being able to speak well. Underscores how little real value an education has. Brian - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
People here complain bitterly about it but they complained just as bitterly about MTBE. Interestingly you don't hear them complaining about MTBE now, I'm about the only one around that reminds them of getting a headache after 10 minutes at the gas station... MBTE is bad [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll take a little extra water or whatever in the tank to get rid of that stuff. -Curt Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:27:38 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is probably something the corn growers don't want to get out I would have thought that today's cars would tolerate 10% ethanol without any issues... it's been a pretty common gasoline additive since the 1970s. Methanol was used from time to time as well, I think, but not lately. It's not as well tolerated. Allan -- 1983 300D - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser Eye-talian Tune-ups
My late great uncle Reg had an '88 GMC 1500 pickup that pretty much only ever got driven around town. Every trip I made to see him he'd have me blow the carbon out of it we'd go find some big hills and bomb up them with the pedal to the floor and the 350ci v8 screaming. He'd smile and hold on. My uncle Reg was a great guy to have around for a teenager, he let me drive on the road when I was 13. Taught me the proper way to powerslide around corners on woods roads at 50mph and that non-alcoholic beer Isnt worth the price of the can. A friend from work one time asked me to take his '80 300SD (116, beautiful car) to get an alignment since I lived closer to the garage. I drove his car all weekend and he had my '83 240D. When I returned the car he commented that it started easier and seemed to have A LOT more power... I'd driven the stink out of it all weekend. Periodically I'd scare myself as I'd forget it was a 300 instead of my 240 and would have the go pedal glued to the floor when the turbo would kick in and it would lift off! -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:06:51 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gasser Eye-talian Tune-ups To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now that my 300D is resting in the garage for a spell, I'm driving the '87 Acura Legend (192K, auto) to the old nuke plant. Today I came upon idiots from CA driving 71 mph in the left lane with the right lane clear. I got in the right lane and mashed the foot feed to the floor and that Acura belched out the most impressive black cloud of goo I've ever seen. It kept pouring out for almost five seconds, until I eased up on the gas. Very cool. Marshall was smiling. So my question is: now that SHMBO has driven this Acura for six years do I need to start driving this thing like I stole it? Bob R '05 E320 45K '87 Acura Legend 192K '77 300D 192K - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 05:28:24 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obviously went through the same hole that the slushbox's electrical cable used to use. That was a 201. Jim and I are talking about left-hand drive cars. Is yours a left-hand or a right-hand drive car, Hendrik? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
The color of his skin has nothing to do with why I think he is bad news. Its amazing how far left the guy really is. Its scary. He is for change? Yea I keep hearing that. Change for what? I know he wants to change things so law abiding citizens can no longer carry concealed weapons. Yea, thats the kind of change I really want, not. Wonko the Sane wrote: I've been in this game for decades. I take it very seriously. I am right. This guy is the real deal. I don't just trust Obama with the balance of my lfe (maybe 20 years), I am trusting him with the futures of my kids and step-daughter (ask Luther) and my so-far two grandchildren. Talking face to face with Obama is not far removed from talking to Little Tommy.Very calm and rational and intelligent.Except for the skin color, they could be twins. Very similar. Unlike McCain and Hillary, I don't think Obama is in this for ego. I think he really wants to fix things. My bet is on that philosophy. D. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 Air Bag Message
You should never use a newer car like that to jump somebody, it can fry electrical things. Robert Rentfro wrote: Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant. When it was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked for a jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up towards the front of his old bomb. Oddly, I now randomly, when no one is in the front seat, get the message that the passenger air bag is deactivated when no one is in the front seat. When some one is I the seat, no message. Earlier in the week I never got that message when the front seat was empty. What the heck? Bob R '05 E320 45K '77 300D 192K resting in the garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
I usually fill up there when I'm downtown. It seems odd that a town this size doesn't have more bio pumps. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany Bob, Here is a list on outlets. Only one in Phoenix. Western Petroleum... http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/ showstate.asp?st=AZ Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Robert Rentfro wrote: A more bio-diesel. Now if some would just make it to AZ. I live in a bio-free zone I think. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Then maybe you should run for president. I will vote for you as long as you are not a socialist like oboma. Wonko the Sane wrote: When you get down to it, the only real difference between me and McCain is that he was shot down and I was not. We both learned to fly at Pensacola. And I got my BS with a much better GPA. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: McCain is not my ideal choice, but he seems genuine, he's old enough to know his a** from a hole in the ground, he's made huge personal got sacrifices for his country, and policy-wise he's closer to what I would want than the other two. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair fenders or replace?
For some reason, no 240d's have the sealer, and the 300d's I think 82 or 83 and up, dont either. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:10:13 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you feel really brave, take the (new) hood and fenders and have them prepped and sprayed, then put them on yourself. The worst part about front fender RR is getting the old seam sealer off, which takes a torch or a couple of big a** heat lamps. I changed the fender on our '82 240D/3.0 without any problems. It does not have the seam sealer gunk. I don't recall when the change was made, but later W123s, certainly, do not have the glue. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate control unit 300SDL
Any 126 from 86-91 will work. 87 300SDL wrote: Hello; I have a 87 300SDL and the PBU to select the fan is starting or is making a clicking noise (mind of it's own) Also when I push the off button it shuts off but then turns on again, I can hold the off button and it stays off it's like that button is bad, or releases enough that the fan turns back on. So I was wondering what other models of the W126 PBU would swap with a 300SDL. Would a unit from a 560SEL 86-91 work? Thanks RC _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
no, but I will give you a 30 day warranty and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper. Luther wrote: Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
A agree - what does skin color (or gender) have to do with this election? Change for the sake of change is very dangerous but this is exactly what the Obama supporters are pushing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list The color of his skin has nothing to do with why I think he is bad news. Its amazing how far left the guy really is. Its scary. He is for change? Yea I keep hearing that. Change for what? I know he wants to change things so law abiding citizens can no longer carry concealed weapons. Yea, thats the kind of change I really want, not. Wonko the Sane wrote: I've been in this game for decades. I take it very seriously. I am right. This guy is the real deal. I don't just trust Obama with the balance of my lfe (maybe 20 years), I am trusting him with the futures of my kids and step-daughter (ask Luther) and my so-far two grandchildren. Talking face to face with Obama is not far removed from talking to Little Tommy.Very calm and rational and intelligent.Except for the skin color, they could be twins. Very similar. Unlike McCain and Hillary, I don't think Obama is in this for ego. I think he really wants to fix things. My bet is on that philosophy. D. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Digest coming up short
I will look into it Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Kaleb, Is something going funny with the digest version of the list? I'm seeing LOTS of messages get replied to where I haven't seen the original message come through at all... On an interesting side note, when I post to the Linux list it ALWAYS hits my spam filter... Odd. -Curt - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser Eye-talian Tune-ups
Curt told us: My uncle Reg was a great guy to have around for a teenager, he let me drive on the road when I was 13. Taught me the proper way to powerslide around corners on woods roads at 50mph and that non-alcoholic beer Isn't worth the price of the can. Good man. Smart man. Everyone needs someone like Uncle Reg. This world would be a better place. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Digest coming up short
Along the same vein (maybe) I'm getting lost of posts ending up in my junk email folder. That used to never happen before. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:34 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Digest coming up short Hey Kaleb, Is something going funny with the digest version of the list? I'm seeing LOTS of messages get replied to where I haven't seen the original message come through at all... On an interesting side note, when I post to the Linux list it ALWAYS hits my spam filter... Odd. -Curt - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 Air Bag Message
Really? I've never had a newer car to worry about. I guess that's good to know. BobR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] E320 Air Bag Message You should never use a newer car like that to jump somebody, it can fry electrical things. Robert Rentfro wrote: Yesterday I was allowed to drive the new E320 to the old nuke plant. When it was time to leave, one of my trainees could start his car and he asked for a jump. It was funny to watch him and everyone else that was nearby in the parking lot wonder what the heck I was doing when I was backing up towards the front of his old bomb. Oddly, I now randomly, when no one is in the front seat, get the message that the passenger air bag is deactivated when no one is in the front seat. When some one is I the seat, no message. Earlier in the week I never got that message when the front seat was empty. What the heck? Bob R '05 E320 45K '77 300D 192K resting in the garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Repair fenders or replace?
'Don't know about 240D, but replacement of LF fender on my 91 126 twelve yrs ago was extremely easy; LF door, too - simple hand tools. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No. 1 music store
ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No 1 music store. iTunes is now largest music retailer in the U.S. APPLE GETS BIGGER PIECE OF MUSIC PIE: In a sign that once again marks the end of CD's as the major driver of U.S. music sales, iTunes has eclipsed Wal-Mart's combined online and brick-and-mortar stores to take the top spot as America's top music retailer. The announcement occurred just as MySpace debuted its own music service. The shift is in line with past predictions on downloads becoming the main vehicle for delivering music content. Now some experts are predicting the same thing for movies and even books. While good news for Apple, the development isn't exactly peachy for the recording industry, Reuters reports. Compared to CD sales, recording companies don't make as much money on music downloads. C'est la vie? ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) HTMLFONT FACE=3Darial,helveticaHTMLFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGen= eva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No 1 music st= ore.BR BR iTunes is now largest music retailer in the U.S.BR BR APPLE GETS BIGGER PIECE OF MUSIC PIE: In a sign that once again marks the en= d of CD's as the major driver of U.S. music sales, iTunes has eclipsed Wal-M= art's combined online and brick-and-mortar stores to take the top spot as Am= erica's top music retailer.BR BR The announcement occurred just as MySpace debuted its own music service. The= shift is in line with past predictions on downloads becoming the main vehic= le for delivering music content. Now some experts are predicting the same th= ing for movies and even books.BR BR While good news for Apple, the development isn't exactly peachy for the reco= rding industry, Reuters reports. Compared to CD sales, recording companies d= on't make as much money on music downloads. C'est la vie?BR BR BR /FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D= 2/FONTBRBRBR**BRPlanning your summer road trip? Chec= k out AOL Travel Guides.BR (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united= -states?ncid=3Daoltrv000316)/HTML ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Wonko the Sane wrote: I can respect your opinion, but I disagree. I will support Obama, as a State delegate. So are you an actual super/pledged delegate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair fenders or replace?
W123 fenders are easy, especially if they don't have the stickum on the inner engine bay edges. The bad part is what you find underneath, since they usually hide the really nasty rust and corrosion, especially under the bottom rear corners at the leading edge of the door. Dan --- wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Don't know about 240D, but replacement of LF fender on my 91 126 twelve yrs ago was extremely easy; LF door, too - simple hand tools. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid mersu tricks
Well then, I stand corrected. Two cheers for global warming. I got into a dispute with the in laws about Manitoba cherries (I saw a packing crate so labeled at the IGA). They say no such thing (other than chokecherries) and that these were repackaged Montana Bing cherries. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:11 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually do have grapes that grow here. I have never had wine made from them to my knowledge, but I can attest to their being good for grape jelly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stupid mersu tricks No grape variety is hardy enough to grow in Manitoba so any local hooch-style wine is likely reconstituted from alien concentrate... On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:48 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, just cheap red hootch. Like Rumpole of the Bailey - Chateau Thames Enbankment or maybe for Winnipeg Chateau Red Embankment. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stupid mersu tricks I hope it's a good Canadian Red from Henry of Pelham (Niagara) or Inniskillin (eastern B.C.). On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:32 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Wilton, you are never too old to learn to drink. You might even like it. It does seem to appeal to some of us more than others. I have a couple of glasses of red wine with dinner every night. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:13 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Stupid mersu tricks The white 124 plowing the field reminds of a good lesson I had about drunks nearly 65 years ago. On a Sunday afternoon in about June of 1943, my parents and I went to visit my oldest brother and his wife. They weren't at home, but we learned they were visiting her sister a half mile or so away, so we stopped there. While there, my brother's BIL came in drunk. His wife started yelling at him for being drunk; he rushed back out, jumped in the car (a '36 or so Terraplane - a Hudson with a hood about 6 feet long housing a straight 8) and tore wide open down the driveway. At the road, he couldn't make the turn onto the pavement, and jumped the ditch on the far side of the road into a corn field. For at least 10 minutes, he plowed every inch of that field of mature corn. 'Don't think his right foot (with accelerator beneath it) ever left the floor as corn and dirt/mud flew. Finally, after there was no more corn left standing, he roared back across the ditch and away up the road. That and some antics by my oldest brother at other times caused me to NEVER be a drinker. I've always thought that I could make enough of a fool of myself while completely sober. BTW, what's a mersu - Mercedes? Wilton, teetotaler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Worse Than Global Warming???
http://divulgence.net/ Interesting, if nothing else... Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
I suggest that you buy the car, replace the alternator and drive it. I've owned two 86 300E's and they are great cars. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long) Last night I went to see the $1000 '86 300E I posted about a while ago (the 300E alternator thread). The girl selling it (intelligent but obviously non-mechanical) says she loves the car, but doesn't trust it any more since it died on the freeway and stranded her and her kids. She got a new battery, and it ran for a couple of hours but then all the lights came on, it stopped, and wouldn't start again. Replacement battery, same story. It can be jumped apparently and will run briefly, but then dies in the same way. Battery was obviously completely flat when I tried turning the key---no cranking at all and no interior lights. Seems like a bad alternator or at least bad brushes, just like was speculated in the earlier thread. I was too lazy to push the car out of her garage and try jumping it---if I go back I'll just bring the battery from my (currently sidelined) 124. Apart from that she says the car runs and drives great, always starts whether cold or warm, shifts fine, tracks straight on the highway. I noticed no excessive negative camber in the rear, which is sort of my yardstick for whether a 124 suspension has been maintained (since those upper links are so often the first to go). I asked whether the A/C works. This car has no air conditioning, she said with some surprise. Power locks don't work. (Big vacuum leak affecting both the ACC and the locks, I bet.) She said she'd had the car two years, driven it about 20,000 miles mostly on the freeway (there's 185K on the odo), and in that time the only other problem besides the electrical one was something with the fuel, which was repaired. She'd just got new tires. She has a fat file of receipts from the previous (possibly original) owner who had the car maintained at the local Benz indy of repute, MBI Motors. I didn't look through the file. If oil appearance/smell and the view of the cam through the oil fill hole are any guide, the engine is in fine shape mechanically. Cosmetically the car was nicer than most: perfectly straight body, no apparent rust (not usually a problem with cars that have been in the Pacific NW all their lives), trim not too sun-faded, nice paint just needing a polish apart from one unfortunate patch of peeling clearcoat on a door. Interior had lots of cracks in the dash, but the wood, carpet and seats were in excellent shape. She thought the seats were leather, but they looked and felt exactly like the Tex ones in my 300D. Dark blue interior and silver exterior---not a combination I've seen too often on '80s M-Bs and very classy. I told her I was tentatively interested and would need to sleep on it, but that her price was certainly too high and $500 would be more to my liking. She said she'd take $600. At that price I would have bought it right there if the interior was actually leather, just to swap the seats into my other car and have the rest for parts as needed. (I was surprised, looking under the hood, to see how much appeared to be common between an early gasser 124 and my diesel. For one thing, I suspect my 300D needs a new monovalve, and there was an identical-looking one right there just waiting to be pulled...) I'm thinking, though, that depending on the contents of the maintenance file she has, and on how the car drives, it might really be too nice to part out---i.e. if the first owner had all the regular 124 and M103 fixes done the car's got a lot of life left in it. (New valve guides? For all I know it might even have had the evaporator done! And pigs might fly!) So I'm waffling. I was honest with her and told her that if she just got a used alternator put in for $200 or so she could probably get $2,000 for the car. She said she didn't want the hassle, just wanted the car gone and a little cash out of it. Always something you like to hear as a potential buyer. :) Sooner or later someone else will take advantage of her, though, if I don't, so I better decide whether I want it soon... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date:
Re: [MBZ] Worse Than Global Warming???
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:21:55 -0500 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://divulgence.net/ Interesting, if nothing else... You're right, nothing else. If this were true, the arctic circle (the latitude above which there is continual night on 21 December) would have moved down to (90 - 49.5) = 40.5 degrees North. That means on 21 December last, everyone north of roughly the northern border of the state of Kansas or north of Madrid, Spain (for those Europeans among us) would have seen NO sun. Likewise, on 21 June last, our compatriots on the island of Tasmania and the southern island of New Zealand as well as on the northern island of New Zealand, including the city of Wellington would have seen no sun. Are you in these regions? Did you see the sun at those times? This kind of thing cannot be hidden. This page is totally false. Craig P.S. Note that in the right-hand picture, the picture of the earth is rotated, but sunrise-sunset line was rotated as well. It should have remained perpendicular to the ecliptic, but that would have taken extra effort to redrawn the picture, which is likely stolen from somewhere else. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
Power locks don't work. (Big vacuum leak affecting both the ACC and the locks, I bet.) The 124, like the 126, 201, and late 107, don't use engine vacuum for the locks. They use a separate electric pressure/vacuum pump. It _sounds_ like a good deal, and too nice to part out. Why don't _you_ put in the alternator and take care of a few minor things, and sell it for $2000? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reformed rodbender $6500?
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Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It _sounds_ like a good deal, and too nice to part out. Why don't _you_ put in the alternator and take care of a few minor things, and sell it for $2000? Fear of albatross-itis, I guess. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest that you buy the car, replace the alternator and drive it. I've owned two 86 300E's and they are great cars. Tom (and everyone else), does the 300E take a Group 48 battery? I'd like to know before I pull the good one from my '87 300D and drag it over there that it will fit. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
Meant to bcc you on this originally... :) 3 AC -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:39 AM Subject: Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long) To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Last night I went to see the $1000 '86 300E I posted about a while ago (the 300E alternator thread). The girl selling it (intelligent but obviously non-mechanical) says she loves the car, but doesn't trust it any more since it died on the freeway and stranded her and her kids. She got a new battery, and it ran for a couple of hours but then all the lights came on, it stopped, and wouldn't start again. Replacement battery, same story. It can be jumped apparently and will run briefly, but then dies in the same way. Battery was obviously completely flat when I tried turning the key---no cranking at all and no interior lights. Seems like a bad alternator or at least bad brushes, just like was speculated in the earlier thread. I was too lazy to push the car out of her garage and try jumping it---if I go back I'll just bring the battery from my (currently sidelined) 124. Apart from that she says the car runs and drives great, always starts whether cold or warm, shifts fine, tracks straight on the highway. I noticed no excessive negative camber in the rear, which is sort of my yardstick for whether a 124 suspension has been maintained (since those upper links are so often the first to go). I asked whether the A/C works. This car has no air conditioning, she said with some surprise. Power locks don't work. (Big vacuum leak affecting both the ACC and the locks, I bet.) She said she'd had the car two years, driven it about 20,000 miles mostly on the freeway (there's 185K on the odo), and in that time the only other problem besides the electrical one was something with the fuel, which was repaired. She'd just got new tires. She has a fat file of receipts from the previous (possibly original) owner who had the car maintained at the local Benz indy of repute, MBI Motors. I didn't look through the file. If oil appearance/smell and the view of the cam through the oil fill hole are any guide, the engine is in fine shape mechanically. Cosmetically the car was nicer than most: perfectly straight body, no apparent rust (not usually a problem with cars that have been in the Pacific NW all their lives), trim not too sun-faded, nice paint just needing a polish apart from one unfortunate patch of peeling clearcoat on a door. Interior had lots of cracks in the dash, but the wood, carpet and seats were in excellent shape. She thought the seats were leather, but they looked and felt exactly like the Tex ones in my 300D. Dark blue interior and silver exterior---not a combination I've seen too often on '80s M-Bs and very classy. I told her I was tentatively interested and would need to sleep on it, but that her price was certainly too high and $500 would be more to my liking. She said she'd take $600. At that price I would have bought it right there if the interior was actually leather, just to swap the seats into my other car and have the rest for parts as needed. (I was surprised, looking under the hood, to see how much appeared to be common between an early gasser 124 and my diesel. For one thing, I suspect my 300D needs a new monovalve, and there was an identical-looking one right there just waiting to be pulled...) I'm thinking, though, that depending on the contents of the maintenance file she has, and on how the car drives, it might really be too nice to part out---i.e. if the first owner had all the regular 124 and M103 fixes done the car's got a lot of life left in it. (New valve guides? For all I know it might even have had the evaporator done! And pigs might fly!) So I'm waffling. I was honest with her and told her that if she just got a used alternator put in for $200 or so she could probably get $2,000 for the car. She said she didn't want the hassle, just wanted the car gone and a little cash out of it. Always something you like to hear as a potential buyer. :) Sooner or later someone else will take advantage of her, though, if I don't, so I better decide whether I want it soon... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
Sorry, I was trying to forward my post to someone else offlist. Doh! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems odd that a town this size doesn't have more bio pumps. I've never actually seen biodiesel for sale at a pump, anywhere. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad idea
We tell this to our truck drivers all the time when they self-jump. Luther On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:21:27 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dangerous with one of the newer can bus cars because of the strong possibility of electronic damage due to voltage spikes. A lot of the danger can be mitigated by making sure the donor car is OFF when you hit the patient's starter. That and, of course, making sure you use proper cabling procedure. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Tempting does it have less than 100kmi on it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:23:03 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, but I will give you a 30 day warranty and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper. Luther wrote: Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No. 1 music store
Yabbut you have to look at the way they use the numbers: Based on data from market research firm the NPD Groups MusicWatch survey that captures consumer reported past week unit purchases and counts one CD representing 12 tracks, excluding wireless transactions. The iTunes Store became the largest music retailer in the US based on the amount of music sold during January and February 2008. So they're not really comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) when they do this. WalMart is reporting sales of physical CDs, whereas Apple is reporting sales based on 12 song increments. MacDan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No 1 music store. iTunes is now largest music retailer in the U.S. APPLE GETS BIGGER PIECE OF MUSIC PIE: In a sign that once again marks the end of CD's as the major driver of U.S. music sales, iTunes has eclipsed Wal-Mart's combined online and brick-and-mortar stores to take the top spot as America's top music retailer. The announcement occurred just as MySpace debuted its own music service. The shift is in line with past predictions on downloads becoming the main vehicle for delivering music content. Now some experts are predicting the same thing for movies and even books. While good news for Apple, the development isn't exactly peachy for the recording industry, Reuters reports. Compared to CD sales, recording companies don't make as much money on music downloads. C'est la vie? ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) HTMLFONT FACE=3Darial,helveticaHTMLFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGen= eva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2ITunes passes Wal-Mart as No 1 music st= ore.BR BR iTunes is now largest music retailer in the U.S.BR BR APPLE GETS BIGGER PIECE OF MUSIC PIE: In a sign that once again marks the en= d of CD's as the major driver of U.S. music sales, iTunes has eclipsed Wal-M= art's combined online and brick-and-mortar stores to take the top spot as Am= erica's top music retailer.BR BR The announcement occurred just as MySpace debuted its own music service. The= shift is in line with past predictions on downloads becoming the main vehic= le for delivering music content. Now some experts are predicting the same th= ing for movies and even books.BR BR While good news for Apple, the development isn't exactly peachy for the reco= rding industry, Reuters reports. Compared to CD sales, recording companies d= on't make as much money on music downloads. C'est la vie?BR BR BR /FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D= 2/FONTBRBRBR**BRPlanning your summer road trip? Chec= k out AOL Travel Guides.BR (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united= -states?ncid=3Daoltrv000316)/HTML ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
Really? Where are you? I remember seeing a great deal of pumps selling it in Central Illinois a couple of years ago when we went back to visit relatives. There is ONE pump in Phoenix selling bio. OTOH, there are like 100% more stations selling diesel than there were, say, five years ago. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems odd that a town this size doesn't have more bio pumps. I've never actually seen biodiesel for sale at a pump, anywhere. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Uh, Okay....
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/631402144.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Initial Washing of E320
Washed the E320 today for the first time. Found a couple of small scratches in the paint. Not deep or anything like that. Is there anything I can do to get rid of them. Also, there is one small scratch on the tail light lens. Can anything be done for that? Bob R '05 E320 45K '87 Acura Legend 192K '77 300D 192K resting in the garage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really? Where are you? South-central Indiana. Even the Farm Bureau is selling straight #2. Unless they are not labeling it as B-xx, but I think they have to right? I've never seen it along the interstate, or at any in-city stations either. I remember seeing a great deal of pumps selling it in Central Illinois a couple of years ago when we went back to visit relatives. There is ONE pump in Phoenix selling bio. OTOH, there are like 100% more stations selling diesel than there were, say, five years ago. Bob R. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh, Okay....
Cut coils ride like a farm wagon. I once was looking at a Factory Five 427 Cobra replica, they used a fox body mustang suspension with cut coils. Can you imagine how that must ride? Cut down springs in a kit car that weighs 1000lb less than the car the springs were originally made for? Mitch. Rick Knoble wrote: http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/631402144.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????
seems high for a 200k car. Rick Knoble wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????
I have one I will sell cheaper than that. Rick Knoble wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
It was rebuilt not too long before installed in the car from which it was removed. Luther wrote: Tempting does it have less than 100kmi on it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:23:03 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, but I will give you a 30 day warranty and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper. Luther wrote: Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Really going out on a pretty long limb here and latching on hard. I admire your conviction, but don't know how you can really know all this about the man. If I didn't know you had such intelligence and experience in life, I'd suspect that the great Change propaganda machine has worked on you. Brian On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been in this game for decades. I take it very seriously. I am right. This guy is the real deal. I don't just trust Obama with the balance of my lfe (maybe 20 years), I am trusting him with the futures of my kids and step-daughter (ask Luther) and my so-far two grandchildren. Talking face to face with Obama is not far removed from talking to Little Tommy.Very calm and rational and intelligent.Except for the skin color, they could be twins. Very similar. Unlike McCain and Hillary, I don't think Obama is in this for ego. I think he really wants to fix things. My bet is on that philosophy. D. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never watched any commercials, I do not get my info from ads. I just hope you are right about him if he gets in by some chance. I fear you are wrong though. Wonko the Sane wrote: Ever since I quit drinking coffee and switched to herbal tea, the price of tea is very important to me. But to answer your question, there is a big difference between watching a commercial and looking into a man/(woman)'s eyes in real time. I am a pretty good judge of character -- occupational hazard. I think Obama is the real thing, and I am betting my grandchildren's future on my judgment. D. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does talking to the man have to do with the price of tea in china? Wonko the Sane wrote: Write me back with an opinion when you have actually talked to the man. I have. Dubya is NOT the Devil.He is more appropriate for the 'disabled' workshop where I work. I still can't believe he managed to fly an aircraft. D. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as I hate to, I agree with you on this statement. I shake my head when people talk about how George W. is the devil incarnate. As though any other politician is nobler. It is scary how many folks right now are riding this feel good wave that is Obamaism. Brian -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate control unit 300SDL
Luther, Jim, Kaleb Thanks for the responces. I'll try to solider it on my on first, and squirt it with contact cleaner. If that doesn't work Luther, I my send it to you. Thanks RC _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Unfortunately, I think that race and gender has very much to do with this election. It should not, but it does. You know, I don't believe any race is superior to any other. So I could get beyond my initial, natural discomfort at the thought of having a Black president (well, half black) IF I didn't KNOW that for many out there, it IS about race. And at least in part, I place Barack himself in this group of many. The first time I heard him give a speech that included language like it's about time or they said it couldn't happen (these are loose quotes) my fears were confirmed about Obama. And I know that for millions out there, it's about electing a Black president too. These millions are not just the Black voters, but all who think it's about time. In my mind, we should strive to be totally blind to race. This would define the lack of racism. Every time we celebrate the first time a given race accomplishes something, we stoke the fire of racism. As for the gender issue in this election: See above - for it all applies. Brian On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A agree - what does skin color (or gender) have to do with this election? Change for the sake of change is very dangerous but this is exactly what the Obama supporters are pushing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list The color of his skin has nothing to do with why I think he is bad news. Its amazing how far left the guy really is. Its scary. He is for change? Yea I keep hearing that. Change for what? I know he wants to change things so law abiding citizens can no longer carry concealed weapons. Yea, thats the kind of change I really want, not. Wonko the Sane wrote: I've been in this game for decades. I take it very seriously. I am right. This guy is the real deal. I don't just trust Obama with the balance of my lfe (maybe 20 years), I am trusting him with the futures of my kids and step-daughter (ask Luther) and my so-far two grandchildren. Talking face to face with Obama is not far removed from talking to Little Tommy.Very calm and rational and intelligent.Except for the skin color, they could be twins. Very similar. Unlike McCain and Hillary, I don't think Obama is in this for ego. I think he really wants to fix things. My bet is on that philosophy. D. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
Hi Randy - You wrote few would deny that John and Jackie Kennedy are among the most respected whitehouse couples Nope - not me at least. All that Camelot stuff came about from the press after JFK died and who's going to give a dead president a hard time once he's dead? Actually JFK wasnt in office that long - he *did* handle the Cuban missle crisis - after his Bay of Pigs fiasco made Fidel an enemy for all time Castro went to USSR for help - and they were eager to give it. And then there's that little Viet Nam thing - which he (it is said) intended for only observers to be in country and LBJ and his Great Society turned it into a festering wound - by restricting the military and trying to run the war from 5000 mies away. Wonder why it had trouble. Back to JFK - not really sure what his accomplishments were - or what he and the old ball and chain did to be seen as a respected couple? IIRC Mrs Kennedy (the wife not his mother) redecorated the WH. I guess compared to what others have spent that was minor - Larry - Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB However, few would deny that John and Jackie Kennedy are among the most respected whitehouse couples and the evidence now indicates he wasn't really much different than Bill. Just a different time and less respect from the press. Others have done similar - Bill just got caught and exposed. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB Well I know if mine came unzipped I would not have the need, ability, or interest to unzip it again as the necessary means to carry through would be severely compromised. But, yes, personal responsibility is the key, and enforcement when it doesn't work, if it is important to the couple. There is also that little aspect that as president, everyone involved has a responsibility to live up to the honor of the office. In their case, it doesn't seem like fidelity and honor toward one another is a factor. Makes me wonder how someone(s) like that could have honor/respect in the office and respect to the American people they represent, but I think the answer to that is clear. In the Bill and Hill case, it was ongoing, so yeah, I think it was her responsibility to make sure it did not happen again and again and again when he was incapable of behaving responsibly, if for no other reason than family honor or consideration of their child, even if it wasn't his. And yes I think it is a spouse's job to keep the other from straying, by daily actions and behavior toward one another, not necessarily by constant oversight unless you got a Bill type to cover. You really have to work at it every day, and sometimes it is hard work to do so. --R Bill R wrote: Interesting that you feel it is your wife's job to keep your pants zipped. Is it also your job to keep her from other men? I always liked the idea of personal responsibility myself. BillR -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/4/08 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB Hillary did a great job of keeping things (i.e., Slick's zipper) in the White House under control, I'm sure she will be able to run govt health care, when she is not dodging sniper fire. --R Rory wrote: In case you may have not noticed, the government already runs one health care organization, VA Anyone? Since they do such a stellar job with that oe, I'm sure they can handle the rest of the population. US Government health care, combining all the efficiency of the US Government, with all the compassion of the IRS!) Not ME! On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think things are bad now, wait until all the doctors are government employees. Allan -- 1983 300D Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not intentional I am sure, but errors from fatigue, guessing about the correct medication rather than looking it up, incorrect diagnosis, a slip during surgery - yes to those. I don't think that I would feel much better if I lost my spouse or a child to a medical mistake rather than a bullet. In fact, given the lingering death some medical errors cause, in some cases the bullet could be better. All things being equal [meaning you lose a loved one] errors vs evil intent might be easier to live
Re: [MBZ] OT: '95 Jag XJS on Portland CL
The Jaguar Inline 6 is probably one of the all time great engine designs, Designed in the 50s it was in continuous production for decades - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: '95 Jag XJS on Portland CL On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inline 6 or V12 for 1995. I hadn't realized that XJS did not automatically mean V12, but I also didn't know they made them in 1995. Ah, OK, then the seller is just a garden-variety moron who thinks all sixes are V-6s, not a special kind of one who can't count 12 plug wires. :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my mind, we should strive to be totally blind to race. This would define the lack of racism. I agree with you but I think that it is just part of human nature. It is human nature to identify with groups, and view with suspicion anyone not in that group. This happens with race, class (poor vs. rich), religion, language, geography, anything you can point to as different. It is as old as history. And politicians actively exploit this flaw in our collective character to create us against them reasons to engender support. So rather than try to achieve a world where no prejudice exists, it's probably more realistic to recognize it in ourselves and others when it happens, and try to look past it. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back to JFK - not really sure what his accomplishments were - or what he and the old ball and chain did to be seen as a respected couple? IIRC Mrs Kennedy (the wife not his mother) redecorated the WH. I guess compared to what others have spent that was minor I think that JFK was, as he said in his inaugural address, the first of a new generation to win the presidency. Born in this century, etc. He was young, and viewed as a break with the past, a fresh start, etc. I was just being born at the time, so this is all retrospective on my part. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
$600 for a car that needs a few bits and a weekend to put right? Ok, I'll give you 5 seconds to think about it, 1-2-3-4-5. hee hee. There, now go do something about it. There's probably a kid with $800 in his pocket heading over there now. Don't let the good ones that appear better than you thought get away over a couple hundred bucks. You probably took a couple hundred bucks of your time going over there and checking it out. Ed 300E On 05/04/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I went to see the $1000 '86 300E I posted about a while ago (the 300E alternator thread). The girl selling it (intelligent but obviously non-mechanical) says she loves the car, but doesn't trust it any more since it died on the freeway and stranded her and her kids. She got a new battery, and it ran for a couple of hours but then all the lights came on, it stopped, and wouldn't start again. Replacement battery, same story. It can be jumped apparently and will run briefly, but then dies in the same way. Battery was obviously completely flat when I tried turning the key---no cranking at all and no interior lights. Seems like a bad alternator or at least bad brushes, just like was speculated in the earlier thread. I was too lazy to push the car out of her garage and try jumping it---if I go back I'll just bring the battery from my (currently sidelined) 124. Apart from that she says the car runs and drives great, always starts whether cold or warm, shifts fine, tracks straight on the highway. I noticed no excessive negative camber in the rear, which is sort of my yardstick for whether a 124 suspension has been maintained (since those upper links are so often the first to go). I asked whether the A/C works. This car has no air conditioning, she said with some surprise. Power locks don't work. (Big vacuum leak affecting both the ACC and the locks, I bet.) She said she'd had the car two years, driven it about 20,000 miles mostly on the freeway (there's 185K on the odo), and in that time the only other problem besides the electrical one was something with the fuel, which was repaired. She'd just got new tires. She has a fat file of receipts from the previous (possibly original) owner who had the car maintained at the local Benz indy of repute, MBI Motors. I didn't look through the file. If oil appearance/smell and the view of the cam through the oil fill hole are any guide, the engine is in fine shape mechanically. Cosmetically the car was nicer than most: perfectly straight body, no apparent rust (not usually a problem with cars that have been in the Pacific NW all their lives), trim not too sun-faded, nice paint just needing a polish apart from one unfortunate patch of peeling clearcoat on a door. Interior had lots of cracks in the dash, but the wood, carpet and seats were in excellent shape. She thought the seats were leather, but they looked and felt exactly like the Tex ones in my 300D. Dark blue interior and silver exterior---not a combination I've seen too often on '80s M-Bs and very classy. I told her I was tentatively interested and would need to sleep on it, but that her price was certainly too high and $500 would be more to my liking. She said she'd take $600. At that price I would have bought it right there if the interior was actually leather, just to swap the seats into my other car and have the rest for parts as needed. (I was surprised, looking under the hood, to see how much appeared to be common between an early gasser 124 and my diesel. For one thing, I suspect my 300D needs a new monovalve, and there was an identical-looking one right there just waiting to be pulled...) I'm thinking, though, that depending on the contents of the maintenance file she has, and on how the car drives, it might really be too nice to part out---i.e. if the first owner had all the regular 124 and M103 fixes done the car's got a lot of life left in it. (New valve guides? For all I know it might even have had the evaporator done! And pigs might fly!) So I'm waffling. I was honest with her and told her that if she just got a used alternator put in for $200 or so she could probably get $2,000 for the car. She said she didn't want the hassle, just wanted the car gone and a little cash out of it. Always something you like to hear as a potential buyer. :) Sooner or later someone else will take advantage of her, though, if I don't, so I better decide whether I want it soon... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:44:16 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html I have one I will sell cheaper than that. How much cheaper? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio not
I've never actually seen biodiesel for sale at a pump, anywhere. Quite surprising. My card-op station sells both flavors of diesel plus gas. What they don't have is a do-it-yourself defibrillator for use when the bio price is seen. Premium was $365.9 yesterday. Bio was about $4.43 or so. I say that at that price it should be delivered to the house in a Swarovski crystal container by limo. What is not available in Western Washington is E85. Since my car has a flex fuel engine, I'd like to try a tank or two just as an experiment. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $600 for a car that needs a few bits and a weekend to put right? Ok, I'll give you 5 seconds to think about it, 1-2-3-4-5. hee hee. There, now go do something about it. There's probably a kid with $800 in his pocket heading over there now. Don't let the good ones that appear better than you thought get away over a couple hundred bucks. You probably took a couple hundred bucks of your time going over there and checking it out. I knew you would come down on the side of sobriety and delayed gratification, Ed.. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
Allan Streib wrote: I think that JFK was, as he said in his inaugural address, the first of a new generation to win the presidency. Born in this century, etc. He was young, and viewed as a break with the past, a fresh start, etc. In other words, a white Barak. Nothing of substance, but lots of feel good, and he spoke beautifully. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Passat TDI
This sounds like fun. I wonder if the wiring is biodegradable? http://lansing.craigslist.org/car/610481745.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Space
http://dingo.care-mail.com/cards/flash/5409/galaxy.swf ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Checked out a Kaleb special 300E (long)
So, did you go back and get it?? ;-) I want to hear you're outside working on that alt. now. hee hee Ed 300E On 05/04/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $600 for a car that needs a few bits and a weekend to put right? Ok, I'll give you 5 seconds to think about it, 1-2-3-4-5. hee hee. There, now go do something about it. There's probably a kid with $800 in his pocket heading over there now. Don't let the good ones that appear better than you thought get away over a couple hundred bucks. You probably took a couple hundred bucks of your time going over there and checking it out. I knew you would come down on the side of sobriety and delayed gratification, Ed.. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio not
$365.9 for premium!!! Geez. I was kicking up a stink yesterday when I paid $1.22 per liter for it. Ed 300E On 05/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never actually seen biodiesel for sale at a pump, anywhere. Quite surprising. My card-op station sells both flavors of diesel plus gas. What they don't have is a do-it-yourself defibrillator for use when the bio price is seen. Premium was $365.9 yesterday. Bio was about $4.43 or so. I say that at that price it should be delivered to the house in a Swarovski crystal container by limo. What is not available in Western Washington is E85. Since my car has a flex fuel engine, I'd like to try a tank or two just as an experiment. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. ( http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Who rebuilt it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:45:02 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was rebuilt not too long before installed in the car from which it was removed. Luther wrote: Tempting does it have less than 100kmi on it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:23:03 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, but I will give you a 30 day warranty and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper. Luther wrote: Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
You said of obama his penchant for avoiding controversial votes in the senate by voting present Here's an excellent website for checking politicians voting records - their voting record usually reflects their position on issues. http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 There is a Sort/Select button to filter the issues important to you - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list Wonko the Sane wrote: But to answer your question, there is a big difference between watching a commercial and looking into a man/(woman)'s eyes in real time. I am a pretty good judge of character -- occupational hazard. And successful politicians are pretty good con men. Bill Clinton and probably Osama have the additional advantage of genius IQ, and their EQ is off the charts. I stand by my earlier statement that Osama's only two achievements are getting all his opponents knocked off a ballot, and making pretty speech. The one thing that totally disqualifies him is his penchant for avoiding controversial votes in the senate by voting present. I'm here, but I'm not going to DO anything is not an option for the POTUS. Dubya has made a concerted effort to evade constitutional limitations on his power, in a way that makes me think he hates my country more than I can imagine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel cherokees on Phoenix Craig's list
Sticker on? these is about 38K.? I thought they were 3.2 L tho. Jim in Phoenix 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Diesel 2 left! New lower price! - $30230 (Scottsdale,AZ) Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-03-07, 6:16PM MST We have 2 Diesels left and they need to go!!! The 3.0 Crd is in Wards Auto's Top 10 Engines ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system You've had the trans pan off already?? I must have missed that. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move In a message dated 4/3/2008 3:19:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why no reverse If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: '95 Jag XJS on Portland CL
Are you talking about the 3.8l or the 4.2l? They are both very different engines and each had their own problems... Dan --- LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jaguar Inline 6 is probably one of the all time great engine designs, Designed in the 50s it was in continuous production for decades - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: '95 Jag XJS on Portland CL On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inline 6 or V12 for 1995. I hadn't realized that XJS did not automatically mean V12, but I also didn't know they made them in 1995. Ah, OK, then the seller is just a garden-variety moron who thinks all sixes are V-6s, not a special kind of one who can't count 12 plug wires. :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Various MB crash tests
C-CLASS CRASH TEST Whether this youtube link will make it through is unknown to me. The new C-Class does fairly well but not great. The W211 looks pretty good but the W210 looks bad, as does the W202. There is also a W123 test. The Chinese cars are nearly the worst. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Yup, fluid was normal and nothing solid in the bottom of the pan. The filter was on tight also. Did you see the diagnosis from my MBCA tech advisor? Luther On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:54:21 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system You've had the trans pan off already?? I must have missed that. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move In a message dated 4/3/2008 3:19:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why no reverse If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] missing decimal pernt
$365.9 for premium!!! Geez. I was kicking up a stink yesterday when I paid $1.22 per liter for it. OK OK. $3.65.9. A buck 22 per liter? Was this gas or human blood? RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
Yup! Now I did.? Bummer!? I believe Rusty's? rebuit trans comes with a? torque converter.? I guess the free shipping for orders over $75 doesn't apply here. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move Yup, fluid was normal and nothing solid in the bottom of the pan. The filter was on tight also. Did you see the diagnosis from my MBCA tech advisor? Luther On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:54:21 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system You've had the trans pan off already?? I must have missed that. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move In a message dated 4/3/2008 3:19:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why no reverse If you are real lucky, the filter dropped off the pump inlet and the rattling noise is air bubbles going through the system Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
I won't guarantee my count is correct, but I get *148* Not Voting on that link. Seems like a lot for somebody who took office three years ago. For comparison purposes, someone I love to hate, Debbie Stalin'sCow has been office for seven years, more than twice as long as Barfak. You wanna know how many NVs she's racked up in her Senate career, which is more than twice as long as his? Six! This Osama dirtbag is not doing the job he's paid for, and millions of people want to give him a promotion! I think that Barak has been voting present to avoid looking like that worthless one term Illinois Senator from the 1990s, Carol's Mossy Bum. MossyBum had one of the worst attendance records in both houses of Congress, and even the voters of Illinois figured out she wasn't representing them and didn't reelect her. Unfortunately for Barak, the link Larry posted lumps 'not voting', 'excused', 'absent' and 'present' into one category. I'd like to see how many votes he was 'present' for, which meant that he took time off the campaign trail to show up, but couldn't be bothered to say 'aye' or 'nay'. I got 225 not votings for McLame, but he's been in the Senate a bit longer than Barak (that's 225 NVs from 1995 to present). I get 117 for Hillary, who has been in office seven years, same as StabMeNow, who only had six. Maybe running for president is more important than doing the job you're drawing a paycheck for? I'm not thrilled with the non-voting records of all three, but if you have to pick an overall loser, the guy who racked up 148 in three years has to take the prize. Oh, I just did another one who has been in the senate since before 1995, so he's had as much chance to rack up NVs as McLame has. John Forbes Kerry has 69 NVs from 1995 to present, including a full length Presidential campaign. Perhaps he cares more about his country than the three Senators still in the race? BTW, counting the NVs was a pain, and the figures above are not necessarily precise. Hopefully the counts are accurate +/- two NVs, but who knows? I'm not going to do a recount. Mitch. LarryT wrote: You said of obama his penchant for avoiding controversial votes in the senate by voting present Here's an excellent website for checking politicians voting records - their voting record usually reflects their position on issues. http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donald Snook Is This Your Next Benz?????
At least 1500 cheaper, maybe even cheaper than that. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:44:16 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/631422661.html I have one I will sell cheaper than that. How much cheaper? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Pledged delegate. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: I can respect your opinion, but I disagree. I will support Obama, as a State delegate. So are you an actual super/pledged delegate? ___ htdtp://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] trans mount tab broke off
Got a 201 that has the trans mount tab broke off the back of the tranny. Wonder what it would do if I didnt fix it? Probably not much I figure the stub will rest on the top of the trans mount maybe. WOuld rather fix it. Tried JB weld but it snapped off. Might try some fresh JB weld. Anybody got any other creative ideas? Dont really want to pull the back plate and swap it but I guess I could if it came down to it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
In some ways, it gets down to the lesser of three weasels. If Ron Paul was viable, I'd be supporting him. He isn't. So ... 1. McCain, who I fear will continue our current policy of World Police Force. Dumb idea.the Probably an academic career inferior to Dubya's. Was graduated near the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. Might have been the anchor man. 2. Hillary. Good ideas, but somewhat lacks credibility with me. I could like her were it not for the fact that folks who have been in her presence for years have told me first-hand that she is a real witch. Perhaps that is what we need in a female President. 3.Obama. To me, race plays no part in it. I don't think he is as liberal as some on here fear. The real role of the President is as a cheerleader for the nation -- Congress has the real power. Obama -- and I base this on only meeting the man once -- seems to be sincere, seems to have integrity, and seems to be the one to get this country back into speaking terms between the two/three/four political parties. He isn't the second coming of Christ and I am sure he passes gas like all of us. But, out of the available alternatives, he is head and shoulders above the other two. So ... I support Obama. I think he can go a long way into fixing this cluster-frig that is currently our political infrastructure. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really going out on a pretty long limb here and latching on hard. I admire your conviction, but don't know how you can really know all this about the man. If I didn't know you had such intelligence and experience in life, I'd suspect that the great Change propaganda machine has worked on you. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
I dont know. You probably want to spend more money anyway Luther wrote: Who rebuilt it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:45:02 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was rebuilt not too long before installed in the car from which it was removed. Luther wrote: Tempting does it have less than 100kmi on it? On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:23:03 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, but I will give you a 30 day warranty and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper. Luther wrote: Will you give me a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty? :D Luther On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a used one Luther wrote: So, I just got off the phone with our MBCA Tech advisor and the diagnosis is tranny rebuild time. It's a bad govenor. Since the govenor drives the speedo, which then drives the cruise, that explains no sound and no slipping when the cruise just quit. Ugh. Rusty's quote is $1895, $125-150 shipping for his 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty transmission. Ugh. Now I gotta make some calls and transfer some money Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
explain exactly what that means Wonko the Sane wrote: Pledged delegate. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: I can respect your opinion, but I disagree. I will support Obama, as a State delegate. So are you an actual super/pledged delegate? ___ htdtp://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
That means that on caucus night, the Obama group selected me to represent them at the county convention. When I got there, I supported Obama and talked a couple of folks from the Edwards camp into coming into our group. When it was done, there were X number of delegates (me being one) who would go to District Convention on April 26th, each PLEDGED to a certain candidate. At the District Convention, we will again divide into preference groups and elect delegates to the State Convention (I will not agree to that) will meet in Des Moines. They will divide into preference groups, and a certain number of delegates will be appointed to go to the national convention. And those are the delegates that count. In theory, each delegate should get the same percentage of delegates running all the way from the county caucuses to the state convention. That is where the word PLEDGE comes in -- I am pledged to Obama but have the latitude to jump to another candidate at district convention. Same for folks going to the state convention and the national convention. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: explain exactly what that means Wonko the Sane wrote: Pledged delegate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps
It was also a LH drive 201, I have a big hole on the passenger side for the auto box cable but I needed one on the drivers side. There is a hole already cut in the foam insulation, which I used as a guide as to where to cut the hole. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obviously went through the same hole that the slushbox's electrical cable used to use. That was a 201. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio not
paid over $4/G for 7.5 Gals of Premium for the motorcycle in Oakland this week, but BioDiesel's still only $3.99/G at the local Biofuels Oasis. odd, seeing as how we're seeing #2 at closer to $4.20 in most places around here, but it's not the first time we've seen prices on B100 and #2 flipped. cheers! e '85 300D (B100; currently made from 60% used cooking oil out of Reno casinos, and 40% virgin oil that was stored improperly and was no longer Food Grade.) Berkeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My card-op station sells both flavors of diesel plus gas. What they don't have is a do-it-yourself defibrillator for use when the bio price is seen. Premium was $365.9 yesterday. Bio was about $4.43 or so. I say that at that price it should be delivered to the house in a Swarovski crystal container by limo. What is not available in Western Washington is E85. Since my car has a flex fuel engine, I'd like to try a tank or two just as an experiment. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps
Obviously we drive on the RIGHT side of the road, which is the left, whereas you drive on the wrong side of the road, which is the right. Hendrik Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 05:28:24 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obviously went through the same hole that the slushbox's electrical cable used to use. That was a 201. Jim and I are talking about left-hand drive cars. Is yours a left-hand or a right-hand drive car, Hendrik? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jump starting new cars
And your source for this wisdom is? I think if car manufacturers design cars that can not jump start or be jump started, then we have a problem. Perhaps one of the geniuses on this list could explain how proper jump starting can cause killer spikes, also perhaps Roger could open his owner manual and see what the Stuttgart elves have to say on the subject. Hendrik who is keeping an open mind on this until proven either way Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You should never use a newer car like that to jump somebody, it can fry electrical things. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Initial Washing of E320
Worry about them when you are looking to sell it, you just never know by that time there may be a few more. That's one of the reasons i don't even think about buying a new car, the first scratch (usually put there by clumsy kids or better halfs) is always a tearful moment. I know that some treasure their cars like they are something special but my view is that they are tools to use and as long as the mechanicals are good I don't really care too much about a few dings and scratches. Life is too short to be worried about a piece of metal. Hendrik with lots of scratches and dings but who cares Robert Rentfro wrote: Washed the E320 today for the first time. Found a couple of small scratches in the paint. Not deep or anything like that. Is there anything I can do to get rid of them. Also, there is one small scratch on the tail light lens. Can anything be done for that? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans mount tab broke off
Did it break off because you dropped the tranny on it or did it fail in the car? If the latter, there's no point in fixing it until you cure the stress that caused it to fail in the first place. At any rate JBCan'tWeld isn't going to cut it. I'm thinking MIG, or maybe aluminum braze (like Lumaweld), or fabricate a bracket that clamps around the tranny to replace the busted mounting plate. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 201 that has the trans mount tab broke off the back of the tranny. Wonder what it would do if I didnt fix it? Probably not much I figure the stub will rest on the top of the trans mount maybe. WOuld rather fix it. Tried JB weld but it snapped off. Might try some fresh JB weld. Anybody got any other creative ideas? Dont really want to pull the back plate and swap it but I guess I could if it came down to it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So kind
Hendrik who is keeping an open mind on this until proven either way Hmmm. Looks like it's so far open, everything has fallen out. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jump starting new cars
In the hope I am using a safer method, I always try to give a jump start with my engine off, and use two sets of cables if available. Does keeping my car off actually help? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 300k miles -Original Message- From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/5/08 9:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] Jump starting new cars And your source for this wisdom is? I think if car manufacturers design cars that can not jump start or be jump started, then we have a problem. Perhaps one of the geniuses on this list could explain how proper jump starting can cause killer spikes, also perhaps Roger could open his owner manual and see what the Stuttgart elves have to say on the subject. Hendrik who is keeping an open mind on this until proven either way Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You should never use a newer car like that to jump somebody, it can fry electrical things. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So kind
I know you are furiously thumbing through your owners manual hoping to find that elusive paragraph that reads: Achtung Achtung, you schweinehunds do not ever ever be using external cables to provide power to die batterie das ist not working. Using telefone contact help from us and we will be helping soon but not on ze weekender or after die 5 hour. Und if you are far away you are best to find room for ze night or week but is recommended to put car on lorry for shipping back to our repair centre. You also to be remembering the reason we lost the war is that idioten where using the external power cabling to make the panzers work and that destroyed ze electronics and zhen the radio was not working and the panzer people could not use the radio to talken to the fuehrer. However insults directed at me won't cut the cheese like hard facts will, so Rodger I suggest you get cracking and find the relevant info in your wee little booklet. I guess it should be in the glove box, which should on the other side of the car from where you sit and turn that round thingy. Although you'll probably need the owners manual to figure out how to open the glove box without frying the electronics. Might be best if you just call the roadside assistance people to come and open the glove box for you. Kind regards, Hendrik who is still on the lookout for a owners manual for my TE but might have to cry and give the stealers 65 beans for a newy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik who is keeping an open mind on this until proven either way Hmmm. Looks like it's so far open, everything has fallen out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Old VW
We saw one driving around town last fall - my son had never seen one before and chastised me for not telling him that they existed! On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 35 years ago, I used to see these everywhere. Not a common sight today: http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/rvs/626500135.html I haven't seen one in ages either. (Funny thing is that I do see other VW-based kit cars pretty regularly---the Gazelles that look like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and the ones that look like Bricklins, can't remember what they were called.) You can still buy a new Meyers Manx---www.meyersmanx.com, natch. Still built on a VW frame, but now they suggest you put a Subaru WRX engine in it, which makes for a power-to-weight ratio better than a 427 Cobra. Yikes. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So kind
First thing I do when I get a car is read the manual cover to cover. I seem to recall a section telling how to jump start an '88 300E. I know an '88 hardly qualifies as a new car though. I've never been stranded and had to jump a car, but did allow batteries to drain down a few times when cars weren't used regularly. I know I know, I kept telling myself to disconnect the battery too, and I told myself I would tomorrow for sure. On those occasions when the battery was low, I always pull them and put them on a tickle charger for 24 hours or so. You do what you have to do when stuck, and you don't have much choice but to jump start it sometimes, but jumping it and then using your alt to fully charge up the battery is a really expensive way to use your alt. :-) Ed 300E On 05/04/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you are furiously thumbing through your owners manual hoping to find that elusive paragraph that reads: Achtung Achtung, you schweinehunds do not ever ever be using external cables to provide power to die batterie das ist not working. Using telefone contact help from us and we will be helping soon but not on ze weekender or after die 5 hour. Und if you are far away you are best to find room for ze night or week but is recommended to put car on lorry for shipping back to our repair centre. You also to be remembering the reason we lost the war is that idioten where using the external power cabling to make the panzers work and that destroyed ze electronics and zhen the radio was not working and the panzer people could not use the radio to talken to the fuehrer. However insults directed at me won't cut the cheese like hard facts will, so Rodger I suggest you get cracking and find the relevant info in your wee little booklet. I guess it should be in the glove box, which should on the other side of the car from where you sit and turn that round thingy. Although you'll probably need the owners manual to figure out how to open the glove box without frying the electronics. Might be best if you just call the roadside assistance people to come and open the glove box for you. Kind regards, Hendrik who is still on the lookout for a owners manual for my TE but might have to cry and give the stealers 65 beans for a newy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik who is keeping an open mind on this until proven either way Hmmm. Looks like it's so far open, everything has fallen out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No ethanol in Germany
Same here -- I've never actually seen biodiesel for sale at a pump, anywhere. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans mount tab broke off
Got a 201 that has the trans mount tab broke off the back of the tranny. Wonder what it would do if I didnt fix it? Probably not much I figure the stub will rest on the top of the trans mount maybe. WOuld rather That rear mount is what keeps the rear of the tranny from bucking up and down with the torque stress of trying to shove your car around through the driveshaft. Thump! BANG! Loosely trapped between the crossmember and the tunnel, that thing is free to flap around. fix it. Tried JB weld but it snapped off. Might try some fresh JB weld. Anybody got any other creative ideas? Dont really want to pull the back plate and swap it but I guess I could if it came down to it. JB will never hold there. Weld, replace, or maybe fabricate some kind of a clamp in its place. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
He sent us to the moon -- can't be all bad. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib wrote: I think that JFK was, as he said in his inaugural address, the first of a new generation to win the presidency. Born in this century, etc. He was young, and viewed as a break with the past, a fresh start, etc. In other words, a white Barak. Nothing of substance, but lots of feel good, and he spoke beautifully. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Politics on the list
Isn't Ralph Nader still in? Now you have four weasels to choose between! On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In some ways, it gets down to the lesser of three weasels. If Ron Paul was viable, I'd be supporting him. He isn't. So ... 1. McCain, who I fear will continue our current policy of World Police Force. Dumb idea.the Probably an academic career inferior to Dubya's. Was graduated near the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. Might have been the anchor man. 2. Hillary. Good ideas, but somewhat lacks credibility with me. I could like her were it not for the fact that folks who have been in her presence for years have told me first-hand that she is a real witch. Perhaps that is what we need in a female President. 3.Obama. To me, race plays no part in it. I don't think he is as liberal as some on here fear. The real role of the President is as a cheerleader for the nation -- Congress has the real power. Obama -- and I base this on only meeting the man once -- seems to be sincere, seems to have integrity, and seems to be the one to get this country back into speaking terms between the two/three/four political parties. He isn't the second coming of Christ and I am sure he passes gas like all of us. But, out of the available alternatives, he is head and shoulders above the other two. So ... I support Obama. I think he can go a long way into fixing this cluster-frig that is currently our political infrastructure. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
