Re: [MBZ] U-pullery

[Jim Cathey]

I got the parallel glow plug conversion system from the 200D finnie,
relay and all, the car looked like it had a later 240D engine in it.
(It had an engine-lubricated injection pump.)  I also got a 'chrome'
air intake grille and wipers from the 280.  $20.  Really too bad about
the 200D, it wasn't all that rusty and looked to be in fairly decent
shape.  Looks like an abandoned project car.  Too bad about the 280,
it wasn't very rusty at all.  Lots gone, including the glass, doors,
and dash.  I wonder if it would be worth getting the blower fan?  Most
of the hard stuff has been done towards gettin at it.  It's stiff
enough that it couldn't have been working anymore, but it could also
serve as a rebuild base.  Last thing I need is another project.  Just
like the 200D's engine and tranny could be the basis for driving
the second big generator.  Not!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW

[Steve MacSween]

As is the corrected information that apparently none of those on board were
even airline employees. And in any case, the airlines operated in the UAE
have virtually no Arab pilots. Most are European with some from other
nations.

Incidentally in my quick perusal not one reputable source is repeating the
information about the circuit breaker having been pulled.

In any case the cost of an Airbus is spare change for them anyway. A friend
of mine's brother flies a cargo 747 full-time for some Sheikh or other...
who keeps the aircraft in service soley for the purpose of transporting his
show horses around the world.

He has two other fully equipped private jetliners for his personal travel.
The flight crew includes Canadians, Swedes and Germans.

Mac

on 8/12/08 21:12, LWB250 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No secret about this - it's posted in a number of public
> forums.


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Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car

[Jim Cathey]

> hmmm.  man these things have dropped like a rock
>> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/794145309.html

Doesn't bode well for my selling Ethelred in the next
year or so for a modest profit.

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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Jim Cathey]

> And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for the
> car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
> it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?

I don't quite see the problem.  If they thought the car was
selling for too little they could buy it themselves for a higher
bid, then do whatever they wanted with it.  As a dealer, they
don't have to pay retail sales tax.  That's what we have, not
a VAT.

> Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
> a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the 10%.  
> SAD!

They cannot deduct the sale price.  If they did it would be
tax fraud, or so I'd think.  The widow made a donation, the
amount determined at open auction.  Everything else was a
straight sale.  The church owned the car, and contracted out
its sale through an auction agent.  (Who was also the buyer,
as it turns out.)  Naturally they didn't pay themselves 10%.
How would they even do that?

I guess I don't see the problem, unless the auction house was also
responsible for advertising the auction and deliberately underperformed
there so as to be able to cherry-pick.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] euro 300SDL

[Steve MacSween]

on 8/12/08 19:18, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anybody ever seen such a beast?  I though SDL's were a US only thing.

I saw one in a French movie, as a Paris taxi, so they must have had them.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] euro 300SDL

[Allan Streib]

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> And possibly Japan.  Never european to my knowledge.

I recall some taxis in Denmark that had fold-down jump seats (rear
facing).  Must have been stretched a bit to accomodate that

Not an "S" class though -- cloth seats and manual everything.

This would have been ca. 1976

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Re: [MBZ] euro 300SDL

[Jim Cathey]

> Anybody ever seen such a beast?  I though SDL's were a US only thing.

And possibly Japan.  Never european to my knowledge.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:50:28 +,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  The best parade unit I know of is out of Melha Temple in
> Springfield.

There are about 100 Springfields in the USA. Which one?

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

what makes you think that?

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> It's a POS - trust me on this.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
>> hmmm.  man these things have dropped like a rock
>>
>> Rick Knoble wrote:
>>> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/794145309.html
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>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW

[Wilton Strickland]

Thanks, Chuck, I could see that one coming.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW


> Here's another one..  Just stupid!!!
> Wilton, you will get a kick out of this one..
> Chuck
> Don't know if the pix will get thru...
> >
> >
> >
> > THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW
> >
> > Written by To The Point News
> >
> > Friday, 16 May 2008
> >
> >
> > The brand spanking new Airbus 380-600, the largest passenger
> > airplane ever
> > built, sat in its hangar inToulouse, France without a single hour of
> > airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies
> > (ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, such as engine
> > runu ps,
> > prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi.
> >
> > The ADAT crew taxied the A380-600 to the run-up area. Then they
> > took all
> > four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft.  Not
> > having
> > read the run-up manuals, they had no clue just how light an empty
> > A380-600
> > really is.
> >
> > The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because
> > they had
> > all 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they
> > were trying
> > to takeoff but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc.)
> >
> > Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on
> > the Ground
> > Proximity Sensor to silence the ala rm. This fools the aircraft into
> > thinking it is in the air.  The computers automatically released
> > all the
> > brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no
> > idea
> > that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the
> > brakes on.
> > Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was smart enough to
> > throttle back
> > the engines from their max power setting, so the $200 million brand-
> > new
> > aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it. The extent of
> > injuries
> > to the crew is unknown, for there has been a news blackout in the
> > major
> > media in  France and elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed
> > insulting
> > to Moslem Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to leak out.
> > Airbus $200
> > million aircraft meets retai ning wall and the wall wins
> >
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kind of - MA car inspections?

[OK Don]

English Lit.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:28 PM, andrew strasfogel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In what field?
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:32 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[andrew strasfogel]

AMEN!

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don,
>
> Maybe I'm just not as philosophical as you.
> I like accounts settled in the here and now, so I can take some
> solace that there is justice in our world!
>
> Just my opinion...
>
> Chuck
>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
> > At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like
> > this --
> > because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> I sure as Hell wouldn't buy it from 'em now, but the ultimate
> >> buyer's not
> >> gonna know what crooks they are.
> >>
> >> Wilton
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> >> Cc: "Jim Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jim, et al
> >>>
> >>> I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight
> >>> skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told
> >>> me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called
> >>> me
> >>>
> >>> Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ
> >>> sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up
> >>> giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.
> >>>
> >>> And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for
> >>> the
> >>> car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
> >>> it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?
> >>> Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
> >>> a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the
> >>> 10%.  SAD!
> >>>
> >>> Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html
> >>>
> >>> If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this
> >>> stinks..
> >>>
> >>> Let's hear some good news about nice people!!
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>> Phoenix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> 
>  1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW
>  AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
>  Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST
> 
>  This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of
>  us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT
>  coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction
>  house!?
> 
>  I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if
>  the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers
>  away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I
>  wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later
> 
>  It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door
>  was the only physical problem I saw.
> 
>  Jim in Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[andrew strasfogel]

Chuck, you forgot to include yourself in that list of offenders.  Your
Republican views are obvious and unabashed, so please don't lecture me about
OT political comments.

I DO agree that more diesel talk would be an improvement over the current
mix of topics...

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mitch, Andrew, TE, Harry, et al
>
> I'm not sure what "we" hope to accomplish with any of this rhetoric.
> Maybe it's just a vent, since we can't speak one on one to discuss
> the real issues.  And nobody is going to change anybody else's
> opinions!!!   That's MHO!!!
>
> Your contribution of Mercedes-Benz knowledge would elevate the level
> of discussion greatly...  We're all here because of MB cars...
> the rest is all just "stuff"..
>
> Back to your regularly scheduled program...
>
> Take care,
>
> Chuck
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car

[andrew strasfogel]

It's a POS - trust me on this.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> hmmm.  man these things have dropped like a rock
>
> Rick Knoble wrote:
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kind of - MA car inspections?

[andrew strasfogel]

In what field?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:32 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daughter is finishing a PhD at BU.
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok Don wrote: "What are the parameters for inspections in MA?  Would an
> '86 300E be
> > likely to pass, or more than likely not?"
> >
> > Why do you want to know? Is your son headed off to Harvard or MIT?
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[OK Don]

I suspect that you are becoming more Wonko -

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The older I get (although am not quite OLD yet) and, perhaps, the more our
> year long pescetarian diet turns my personal philosophy more Eastern, the
> more I believe in Karma. Perhaps I am becoming a Buddhist Calvinist.
>
> Or perhaps not.
>

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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Rich Thomas]

Or maybe you're ingesting too much Hg.

--R

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> The older I get (although am not quite OLD yet) and, perhaps, the more our
> year long pescetarian diet turns my personal philosophy more Eastern, the
> more I believe in Karma. Perhaps I am becoming a Buddhist Calvinist.
>
> Or perhaps not.
>
>   
>

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Wonko the Sane]

You have educated yourself into the bourgeoisie. Congratulations.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I don't need anyone to scare me into not voting for Obama. His own
> positions (specifically what HE said in the debates) on taxes is what scares
> me.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW

[LWB250]

No secret about this - it's posted in a number of public forums.

http://airlineworld.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/etihad-airbus-slams-into-wall-while-engine-testing/

Dan


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:26 PM
> Here's another one..  Just stupid!!!
> Wilton, you will get a kick out of this one..
> Chuck
> Don't know if the pix will get thru...
> >
> >
> >
> > THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW
> >
> > Written by To The Point News
> >
> > Friday, 16 May 2008
> >
> >
> > The brand spanking new Airbus 380-600, the largest
> passenger  
> > airplane ever
> > built, sat in its hangar inToulouse, France without a
> single hour of
> > airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu Dhabi
> Aircraft Technologies
> > (ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground,
> such as engine  
> > runu ps,
> > prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi.
> >
> > The ADAT crew taxied the A380-600 to the run-up area.
> Then they  
> > took all
> > four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty
> aircraft.  Not  
> > having
> > read the run-up manuals, they had no clue just how
> light an empty  
> > A380-600
> > really is.
> >
> > The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the
> cockpit because  
> > they had
> > all 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers
> thought they  
> > were trying
> > to takeoff but it had not been configured properly
> (flaps/slats, etc.)
> >
> > Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit
> breaker on  
> > the Ground
> > Proximity Sensor to silence the ala rm. This fools the
> aircraft into
> > thinking it is in the air.  The computers
> automatically released  
> > all the
> > brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The
> ADAT crew had no  
> > idea
> > that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't
> land with the  
> > brakes on.
> > Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was smart
> enough to  
> > throttle back
> > the engines from their max power setting, so the $200
> million brand- 
> > new
> > aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it.
> The extent of  
> > injuries
> > to the crew is unknown, for there has been a news
> blackout in the  
> > major
> > media in  France and elsewhere. Coverage of the story
> was deemed  
> > insulting
> > to Moslem Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to
> leak out.  
> > Airbus $200
> > million aircraft meets retai ning wall and the wall
> wins
> >
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> 
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[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Wonko the Sane]

The older I get (although am not quite OLD yet) and, perhaps, the more our
year long pescetarian diet turns my personal philosophy more Eastern, the
more I believe in Karma. Perhaps I am becoming a Buddhist Calvinist.

Or perhaps not.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like this
> --
> > because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.
>
> Call it reciprocity, karma, mojo, bad luck or whatever, a LOT of accounts
> get settled in this life.
>
> Caveats,
> YMMV
> My 2¢
> Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Wonko the Sane]

Oh, I am not saying that a swift kick in the nuts during our lifetime isn't
occasionally justified. I am saying that one who "gets away with something"
doesn't in the end.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don,
>
> Maybe I'm just not as philosophical as you.
> I like accounts settled in the here and now, so I can take some
> solace that there is justice in our world!
>
> Just my opinion...
>
> Chuck
>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
> > At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like
> > this --
> > because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> I sure as Hell wouldn't buy it from 'em now, but the ultimate
> >> buyer's not
> >> gonna know what crooks they are.
> >>
> >> Wilton
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> >> Cc: "Jim Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jim, et al
> >>>
> >>> I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight
> >>> skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told
> >>> me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called
> >>> me
> >>>
> >>> Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ
> >>> sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up
> >>> giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.
> >>>
> >>> And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for
> >>> the
> >>> car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
> >>> it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?
> >>> Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
> >>> a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the
> >>> 10%.  SAD!
> >>>
> >>> Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html
> >>>
> >>> If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this
> >>> stinks..
> >>>
> >>> Let's hear some good news about nice people!!
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>> Phoenix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> 
>  1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW
>  AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
>  Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST
> 
>  This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of
>  us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT
>  coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction
>  house!?
> 
>  I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if
>  the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers
>  away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I
>  wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later
> 
>  It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door
>  was the only physical problem I saw.
> 
>  Jim in Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Rick Knoble]

> At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like this --
> because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.

Call it reciprocity, karma, mojo, bad luck or whatever, a LOT of accounts get 
settled in this life.

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Another Kaleb Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hmmm.  man these things have dropped like a rock

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> 
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Chuck Landenberger]

Don,

Maybe I'm just not as philosophical as you.
I like accounts settled in the here and now, so I can take some  
solace that there is justice in our world!

Just my opinion...

Chuck

On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:

> At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like  
> this --
> because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> I sure as Hell wouldn't buy it from 'em now, but the ultimate  
>> buyer's not
>> gonna know what crooks they are.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "Jim Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market
>>
>>
>>> Jim, et al
>>>
>>> I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight
>>> skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told
>>> me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called  
>>> me
>>>
>>> Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ
>>> sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up
>>> giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.
>>>
>>> And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for  
>>> the
>>> car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
>>> it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?
>>> Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
>>> a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the  
>>> 10%.  SAD!
>>>
>>> Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html
>>>
>>> If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this
>>> stinks..
>>>
>>> Let's hear some good news about nice people!!
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>> Phoenix
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>

 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW
 AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
 Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST

 This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of
 us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT
 coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction  
 house!?

 I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if
 the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers
 away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I
 wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later

 It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door
 was the only physical problem I saw.

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[MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW

[Chuck Landenberger]

Here's another one..  Just stupid!!!
Wilton, you will get a kick out of this one..
Chuck
Don't know if the pix will get thru...
>
>
>
> THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW
>
> Written by To The Point News
>
> Friday, 16 May 2008
>
>
> The brand spanking new Airbus 380-600, the largest passenger  
> airplane ever
> built, sat in its hangar inToulouse, France without a single hour of
> airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies
> (ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, such as engine  
> runu ps,
> prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi.
>
> The ADAT crew taxied the A380-600 to the run-up area. Then they  
> took all
> four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft.  Not  
> having
> read the run-up manuals, they had no clue just how light an empty  
> A380-600
> really is.
>
> The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because  
> they had
> all 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they  
> were trying
> to takeoff but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc.)
>
> Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on  
> the Ground
> Proximity Sensor to silence the ala rm. This fools the aircraft into
> thinking it is in the air.  The computers automatically released  
> all the
> brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no  
> idea
> that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the  
> brakes on.
> Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was smart enough to  
> throttle back
> the engines from their max power setting, so the $200 million brand- 
> new
> aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it. The extent of  
> injuries
> to the crew is unknown, for there has been a news blackout in the  
> major
> media in  France and elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed  
> insulting
> to Moslem Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to leak out.  
> Airbus $200
> million aircraft meets retai ning wall and the wall wins
>
>

>

>

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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Wonko the Sane]

At the risk of waxing philosophical, I don't worry about stuff like this --
because there is an afterlife where accounts are settled.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I sure as Hell wouldn't buy it from 'em now, but the ultimate buyer's not
> gonna know what crooks they are.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Jim Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market
>
>
> > Jim, et al
> >
> > I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight
> > skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told
> > me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called me
> >
> > Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ
> > sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up
> > giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.
> >
> > And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for the
> > car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
> > it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?
> > Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
> > a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the 10%.  SAD!
> >
> > Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html
> >
> > If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this
> > stinks..
> >
> > Let's hear some good news about nice people!!
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Chuck
> > Phoenix
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW
> > > AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
> > > Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST
> > >
> > > This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of
> > > us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT
> > > coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction house!?
> > >
> > > I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if
> > > the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers
> > > away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I
> > > wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later
> > >
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> > > was the only physical problem I saw.
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[MBZ] Another Kaleb Car

[Rick Knoble]

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/794145309.html

Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect.

Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Wilton Strickland]

I sure as Hell wouldn't buy it from 'em now, but the ultimate buyer's not
gonna know what crooks they are.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Jim Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market


> Jim, et al
>
> I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight
> skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told
> me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called me
>
> Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ
> sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up
> giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.
>
> And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for the
> car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell
> it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?
> Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for
> a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the 10%.  SAD!
>
> Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html
>
> If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this
> stinks..
>
> Let's hear some good news about nice people!!
>
> Take care,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW
> > AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
> > Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST
> >
> > This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of
> > us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT
> > coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction house!?
> >
> > I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if
> > the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers
> > away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I
> > wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later
> >
> > It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door
> > was the only physical problem I saw.
> >
> > Jim in Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[Chuck Landenberger]

Jim, et al

I got a call from a guy who stayed around and gave me the straight  
skinny...  Car went for a bid of $4,000.  the Auction house told  
me $5,000 when I called them.   Who to trust?  The guy who called me

Just the facts...  The auction house charges 10% and adds the AZ  
sales tax of 8.1% to the bid price so, whoever bought? it ended up  
giving the auction house $400 and the state $342.

And I agree SHME!   So, the auction house paid $4,000 for the  
car donated by a widow to benefit a church and is now trying to sell  
it for a profit...  Just gotta' wonder if they paid the sales tax?   
Maybe just sent the money to the church and took a tax deduction for  
a "donation".  Of course, they did not pay themselves the 10%.  SAD!

Here it is:   http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/793974698.html

If you have "smell-o-vision" - turn down the volume, 'cuz this  
stinks..

Let's hear some good news about nice people!!

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix




On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW  
> AMAZING!!! - $5995 (Phoenix)
> Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST
>
> This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of  
> us stayed to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT  
> coincidently, the seller has the same address as the auction house!?
>
> I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if  
> the sale time was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers  
> away, I say Shame!? This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I  
> wrote it down) but didn't come up until way later
>
> It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door  
> was the only physical problem I saw.
>
> Jim in Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] Money Pit Anyone?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thats not a money pit, the money pit was a 600SEL I was watching on ebay 
that had a blow head gasket or 2.  Now THAT would have been a money pit. 
  If it stayed real cheap I might have bought it.  Not sure what it 
ended at though.

Rick Knoble wrote:
> http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/793327343.html
> 
> Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect.
> 
> Rick Knoble
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> '85 300CD
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[MBZ] 80 300SD goes to market

[jfreezn]

1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300 SD TURBO DIESEL 59K MILES LOOKS NEW AMAZING!!! - $5995 
(Phoenix)
Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008-08-12, 2:51PM MST

This is the same car Chuck and I looked at on Saturday.? Neither of us stayed 
to see it sell but Chuck was told it went for 5K.? NOT coincidently, the seller 
has the same address as the auction house!? 

I guess if he can make a quick grand, more power to him.? But if the sale time 
was manipulated so that the heat drove all the buyers away, I say Shame!? 
This unit was supposed to be number 4 ( I wrote it down) but didn't come up 
until way later

It is still a nice car, a?small scrape on the lower right rear door was the 
only physical problem I saw.

Jim in Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] MASSIVE improvements on the cheap 300E

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Not sure, never had to do it.  On the 124, after you pull the blower its 
right there.  On the 126, the blower is under the dash and i dont think 
the evap is right behind it.  Cant think of an easy way to get to it.

Luther wrote:
> How hard is this to do on the 126 SDL?
> 
> Luther
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> Well the AC on the cheap 300E works, but not much air flow.  I decide to 
>> figure out why.  I pull the wiper assembly to get to the blower.  Pull 
>> the blower to get to the evaporator.  Completely caked in crap.  I clean 
>> out the evaporator and put it back together.  MASSIVE improvement.  Back 
>> when I got the car, first thing I did was pull exhaust off parts car and 
>> install on cheap 300E.  Well if you all recall the posts about that I 
>> ended up using adapters and clamps.  Well I have always still had a 
>> little bit of a leak causing the car to be much louder than it should 
>> be.  Well today I got done working early so I headed to the exhaust 
>> shop.  I had them weld it up properly.  MASSIVE improvement, I mean 
>> MASSIVE.  Car is VERY quiet now, very smooth.  WOW. This car just keeps 
>> getting better and better.  If I have it much longer, next thing I know 
>> I will be fixing the couple of dents it has.
>>   
> 
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[MBZ] #15 head?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Never seen a #15 head, although I think I have heard they do exist. 
Anyway, does anybody need one?
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  87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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[MBZ] euro 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Anybody ever seen such a beast?  I though SDL's were a US only thing.
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  85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kind of - MA car inspections?

[OK Don]

Daughter is finishing a PhD at BU.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok Don wrote: "What are the parameters for inspections in MA?  Would an '86 
> 300E be
> likely to pass, or more than likely not?"
>
> Why do you want to know? Is your son headed off to Harvard or MIT?
>

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Chuck Landenberger]

Mitch, Andrew, TE, Harry, et al

I'm not sure what "we" hope to accomplish with any of this rhetoric.   
Maybe it's just a vent, since we can't speak one on one to discuss  
the real issues.  And nobody is going to change anybody else's  
opinions!!!   That's MHO!!!

Your contribution of Mercedes-Benz knowledge would elevate the level  
of discussion greatly...  We're all here because of MB cars...   
the rest is all just "stuff"..

Back to your regularly scheduled program...

Take care,

Chuck

  

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Re: [MBZ] OT topic Volvo

[Rick Knoble]

> I hope that these new tail lights will solve the problem.  If not, then I 
> will try hard wiring them. Or, since I will likely only have the car for a 
> year, I hope these new lights will work until I sell it.

A year would be long term ownership in your case. :)

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] fancy VW slightly OT

[Wilton Strickland]

'Cause he enjoyed it and to exhibit his craftsmanship.

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fancy VW slightly OT


> Sometimes people go to extremes that are really not worth the effort. Got
to admire ability and tenacity etc but
> jeepers, at the end of the day you don't get much for it.
>
> I have not seen it lately but there used to be an older Ford pickup
running around town that had custom made
> stainless steel bumpers - big boxy things that were well made but ugly as
sin. I assume the owner was the craftsman
> and was probably a trained welder etc but it must have taken hours and
hours and one has to wonder why he did it
> all in the long run.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [MBZ] fancy VW slightly OT
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Re: [MBZ] fancy VW slightly OT

[R A Bennell]

Sometimes people go to extremes that are really not worth the effort. Got to 
admire ability and tenacity etc but
jeepers, at the end of the day you don't get much for it.

I have not seen it lately but there used to be an older Ford pickup running 
around town that had custom made
stainless steel bumpers - big boxy things that were well made but ugly as sin. 
I assume the owner was the craftsman
and was probably a trained welder etc but it must have taken hours and hours 
and one has to wonder why he did it
all in the long run.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Mitch Haley]

TE wrote:
> And what are those specific positions exactly? I'm curious to hear them, as
> I am fully prepared to blast the right wing garbage that I'm sure you are
> ready to spew out.

Tarry, that was an entirely uncalled for attack IMO.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Mitch Haley]

harry watkins wrote:
> I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one way or the 
> other.  

If you can convince the voters that they must vote for one of two choices, and 
there's no good reason to vote for either of them, then the only way to get 
votes is to scare the voters into voting against the other guy. Campaign ads 
that I've seen lately for Johnny and Barry both seem to be focusing on this 
strategy, which I take as an admission that they can't present any good reason 
to vote FOR them, so they are going for votes AGAINST the other guy.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[TE]

And what are those specific positions exactly? I'm curious to hear them, as
I am fully prepared to blast the right wing garbage that I'm sure you are
ready to spew out.

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Harry wrote:  "I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting
one way or the other."

You don't?  Both parties have been doing it for years.  Some of the most
egregious examples I can think of off the top of my head are:

"Willy Horton" in 1988 (done by my party unfortunately)
The "Daisy Girl" bomb commercials (Dems) 1964
Any of the "lock box" commercials in 2000 (Gore)

I don't need anyone to scare me into not voting for Obama. His own positions
(specifically what HE said in the debates) on taxes is what scares me.

Donald H. Snook
1990 Volvo 240DL 136
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Donald Snook]

Harry wrote:  "I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one 
way or the other."

You don't?  Both parties have been doing it for years.  Some of the most 
egregious examples I can think of off the top of my head are:

"Willy Horton" in 1988 (done by my party unfortunately)
The "Daisy Girl" bomb commercials (Dems) 1964
Any of the "lock box" commercials in 2000 (Gore)

I don't need anyone to scare me into not voting for Obama. His own positions 
(specifically what HE said in the debates) on taxes is what scares me.

Donald H. Snook
1990 Volvo 240DL 136
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Re: [MBZ] OT topic Volvo

[Donald Snook]

Tyler wrote: "When I used to live in Corvallis, OR every few months I would see 
a 240 with trailer lights bolted to the trunk, because the owner couldn't get 
the stock ones to work. I'm not sure if it's hilarious or sad. I've had good 
luck re-doing the plastic welds with 3M Weatherstripping adhesive, and 
hardwiring the lights."

I hope that these new tail lights will solve the problem.  If not, then I will 
try hard wiring them. Or, since I will likely only have the car for a year, I 
hope these new lights will work until I sell it.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[harry watkins]

I don't think you can SCARE the American people into voting one way or the 
other.  In the end, they will look at there choices and decide.  I believe I 
know where Senator McCain stands on most issues because he has been around 
many years.  I sure don't agree with many of his beliefs.

I know very little about Senator Obama and I follow these things pretty 
close.  Basically he was a State Senator that won a seat in the US Senate. 
A short time later he started to explore a presidential run and that has 
continued.  What bills did he sponsor/co-sponsor?  Was he able to move them 
forward?  Where did he stick out his neck or make a hard stand on anything? 
Did he win those or any other tough fights?

I know he is a smooth talker, can draw a crowd and convince people that he 
brings change and hope.  That's not enough for me.  He has so many handlers 
that he seems to get mixed up on what they want him to say.  He will make a 
wonderfully phased statement on a pop-up issue and then change it within 
hours.  That makes me wonder if the polls changed his mind, or a different 
set of handlers made a better case than the first set of handlers.

I heard he had 300 advisers on foreign affairs.  Is that true?

Harry

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From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama


>I still don't follow your reasoning.
> Why would IBD want to scare conservatives into voting for a Socialist like
> McLamester unless they really believed that Osama Bin Hussein was a much 
> greater
> Socialist??
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Mitch Haley]

I still don't follow your reasoning.
Why would IBD want to scare conservatives into voting for a Socialist like 
McLamester unless they really believed that Osama Bin Hussein was a much 
greater 
Socialist??

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[andrew strasfogel]

That's a real softball: in order to scare people into voting for McCain.
 Duh.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD
> article
> > as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous.
>
> It was run as a political opinion column, so no argument there. OTOH, if he
> was
> not really one of the leading Socialists in the Senate, what incentive
> would
> they have for calling him one?
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Truck gate up/down

[Mitch Haley]

Here's an attempt at scientific data gathering. I suspect the truck was a 
shortbed. Difference was within normal statistical variance, so my theory of 
better mpg with gate up didn't hold, any more than the opposing theory.
http://www.scangauge.com/support/tailgate.shtml

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car In Wisconsin

[Mitch Haley]

John Freer wrote:
> That would be a turbo, no?

No.
They never made a 190E 2.3 Turbo.
That's your garden variety, auto tranny, four cylinder gasser 190E 2.3.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BILLDPACKERFAN/SJi8arzF4HI/AEI/g68gjR7zIAY/DSC08786.JPG?imgmax=512

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[MBZ] Fintail Fleabay No Reserve Annapolis

[Karl Wittnebel]

FYI Gentlemen.

Liquidation time.

eBay Item # 190243990283

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190243990283


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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[PM7088]

I've been a Member of The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic 
Shrine for about 20, and very proud of it as we support 23 state of the art 
burns and orthopedic giving the VERY BEST of car to children AT NO COST!

And, some times we party, drink a little "Camel Milk" so to speak.

 The best parade unit I know of is out of Melha Temple in Springfield.  The use 
go-carts with precision driving.  They have a way long stretched Checker with 
ramps on front and rear, they go up and over, front wards and backwards during 
the parade.

Pete, 32° Mason and a Shriner

 -- Original message --
From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When I was little I went to the Shrine Circus (they sponsored the RBB&B 
> Circus when it came to town) and saw a bunch of Shriners doing sychro 
> driving with some little go-cart kind of things.  They were wearing 
> fezzes and were generally fat (the Shriners, not the little go-cart 
> things, which were painted metal-flake), straining the little go-carts 
> mightily.  I really wanted to be a Shriner but my mother told me I 
> couldn't until I was older, though she bought me a fez at the junk 
> stand.  Now that I am older I don't want to be a Shriner.  I still want 
> a fez though.
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car In Wisconsin

[John Freer]

That would be a turbo, no?

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/793377355.html
>
> Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect.
>
> Rick Knoble
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> '85 300CD
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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Rich Thomas]

See how easy it is!

--R

Jay Slater wrote:
> My interpretation of the tutorial:
>
> 1. Draw a car.
> 2. Shade.
>
> Devil's in the details.
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Here you can learn how to immortalize your ride with paper and graphite:
>>
>> http://www.dueysdrawings.com/how_to_draw_a_car.html
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Money Pit Anyone?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/793327343.html
>
Money pit is right.  Quote:  "There is another switch in the dashboard
that is pushed down into the trim panel. It still works as well, but
needs to be set back in place."  It's little details like this that I
look for to see if a car has been worked on by the corner gas station
or a clumsy amateur rather than a competent indy.  Run away and don't
look back.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.

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Re: [MBZ] Money Pit Anyone?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/793327343.html
>
Money pit is right.  Quote:  "There is another switch in the dashboard
that is pushed down into the trim panel. It still works as well, but
needs to be set back in place."  It's little details like this that I
look for to see if a car has been worked on by the corner gas station
or a clumsy amateur rather than a competent indy.  Run away and don't
look back.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.

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Re: [MBZ] OT topic Volvo

[Tyler Backman]

When I used to live in Corvallis, OR every few months I would see a  
240 with trailer lights bolted to the trunk, because the owner  
couldn't get
the stock ones to work. I'm not sure if it's hilarious or sad. I've  
had good luck re-doing the plastic welds with 3M Weatherstripping  
adhesive, and hardwiring the lights.

Tyler
87 190D Turbo
87 Volvo 740 Turbo

On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:

> on 8/11/08 18:20, Peter Frederick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Haha, the Volvo auto-destruct tail lamps!
>
> That isn't the laugh. The gut-bender is that they made those lousy  
> design
> taillights for, lessee, at least 11 years and never fixed the basic  
> weak
> design. This from a country with endless winters. Duh.
>
> Gotta give the Swedes the pigheaded never-admit-mistakes engineering  
> award
> on that one. Of course it pretty much ties with whoever picked the  
> servo
> climate control system for Mercedes.
>
> "Ah, Fritzi, Chrsyler could not make it verk, but ve vill install it  
> and
> make millions of DM off selling ze servoes to ze dumkopf North  
> Amerikaners."
>
> Mac

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[MBZ] Kaleb Car In Wisconsin

[Rick Knoble]

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/793377355.html

Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect.

Rick Knoble
'87 190DT
'85 300CD

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[MBZ] Money Pit Anyone?

[Rick Knoble]

http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/793327343.html

Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect.

Rick Knoble
'87 190DT
'85 300CD

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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Tom Hargrave]

Mine too - but sometimes I can't resist prowling around when the opportunity
presents itself - with no harm intended.

Thanks,
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My days of late night hacking, coke drinking and zit popping are long
gone :)

-Rolf

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>
> Thanks,
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>
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>> Since you are hacking someone's web page...
>> 
>
> That would be his webpage ;)
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> John
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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Rolf]

My days of late night hacking, coke drinking and zit popping are long
gone :)

-Rolf

Tom Hargrave wrote:
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>
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>> Since you are hacking someone's web page...
>> 
>
> That would be his webpage ;)
>
> John
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Re: [MBZ] H2-O2 vs mileage

[Allan Streib]

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The primary task of a catalytic converter is to reduce nitrogen
> oxides and carbon monoxide and both of these components have already
> been burned. In other words, a catalytic converter does not burn
> anything! It's already been burned!

Actually if your engine is dumping unburned fuel into the cat then the
cat will get very hot, cherry red even, and burn up in rather short
order.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 380 SE jumped timing now FS for parts or repair

[Tom Hargrave]

It will also be obvious that there is no timing chain present if it broke.

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Eric -
I haven't been following this too closely but I don't remember seeing if
anyone actually pulled the valve covers and actually checked the cam timing
to see if it was off. I've just read about a lot of guessing.

Barry

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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

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Oops, hope he did not mind.

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Tom Hargrave wrote:
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That would be his webpage ;)

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[MBZ] 1985 300SD AC - Repair (Screw up?)

[George Larribeau]

The Good News. It gets cold.

The bad news, uses lots of power and makes freighting noises. Compressor, line 
that attaches to compress or and dryer were replaced. System was evacuated for 
1.5 hours with a ½ HP 2stage vacuum pump.

There was basically no Freon left in the system when the repair was started and 
there was not any oil recovered from the old compressor (held it upside down 
and maybe 2 drops). 

The first time I hung the new compressor I filled it with 170 CC oil but it 
poured out when I tried to install it. I captured the oil and measured it at 
about 120 CC loss and after I got it installed I put 120 CC into the low side 
hose. I evacuated the system, held vacuum but when I charged it the compressor 
seal failed immediately. That is when I got the right seals fro Rusty got it re 
connected. When I replaced the dryer at this point I put about 60 CC oil in the 
dryer and another 120 CC or so in the low side compressor hose. Re-evacuated 
system 1.5 Hr and charged it with about 2.7 cans of Freon. I was convinced that 
I lost the oil when the Freon leak out the first time (less that ½ can involved 
here, it did hold a vacuum I believed that it was sealed) . I got the Idea to 
put the extra oil in it some where ( bad advice?).

When the weather cools off (or it dies) I am going to remove the Freon (I have 
a slightly tired but useable recovery unit) and replace the expansion valve, 
the drier (again) and this time attempt to flush the system. Has any one ever 
used the aerosol flush "Super Cool air conditioning flush with hose"?



George Larribeau
Dallas Texas
 
 
1985 300SD 237K
1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I
1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K
1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS
1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra
 Ugly,but runs)
 
 
1993 BMW 323i  125K (Wife's Car)
1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better)
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Re: [MBZ] 380 SE jumped timing now FS for parts or repair

[barry Stark]

Eric -
I haven't been following this too closely but I don't remember seeing if
anyone actually pulled the valve covers and actually checked the cam timing
to see if it was off. I've just read about a lot of guessing.

Barry

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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[John Robbins]

Tom Hargrave wrote:
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That would be his webpage ;)

John


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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Tom Hargrave]

Since you are hacking someone's web page...

Go to this directory and you'll find pictures of a future superturbodiesel
"driver" sitting in the Mercedes - notice the hefty roll cage.

http://superturbodiesel.com/images/lemons/

But I like this one the most:
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/std_lemons.jpg

Followed by this one:
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I like my version :)

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Re: [MBZ] MASSIVE improvements on the cheap 300E

[Wilton Strickland]

My 124 blows VERY strongly since the evapectomy.

Wilton


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> How hard is this to do on the 126 SDL?
>
> Luther
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > Well the AC on the cheap 300E works, but not much air flow.  I decide to
> > figure out why.  I pull the wiper assembly to get to the blower.  Pull
> > the blower to get to the evaporator.  Completely caked in crap.  I clean
> > out the evaporator and put it back together.  MASSIVE improvement.  Back
> > when I got the car, first thing I did was pull exhaust off parts car and
> > install on cheap 300E.  Well if you all recall the posts about that I
> > ended up using adapters and clamps.  Well I have always still had a
> > little bit of a leak causing the car to be much louder than it should
> > be.  Well today I got done working early so I headed to the exhaust
> > shop.  I had them weld it up properly.  MASSIVE improvement, I mean
> > MASSIVE.  Car is VERY quiet now, very smooth.  WOW. This car just keeps
> > getting better and better.  If I have it much longer, next thing I know
> > I will be fixing the couple of dents it has.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Jay Slater]

My interpretation of the tutorial:

1. Draw a car.
2. Shade.

Devil's in the details.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Rich Thomas <
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Re: [MBZ] H2-O2 vs mileage

[Wilton Strickland]

'Point about conservation of energy was referring to the elec power that it
takes to separate the H from the O.  You're not gonna get it for free.  It
takes some more fuel for the engine to produce the additional electricity
used to separate the H from the O.  Ya still not gonna get something for
nothing.  The fuel for the engine is not free; the elec is not free; the H2
is not free.

Wilton

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> > Placebo.  Basic law of physics = you don't get something for nothing -
> > conservation of energy.
>
> It's not supposed to be something for nothing, it's reputed
> to improve the efficiency of combustion.  (More catalyst than
> fuel, in other words, though of course it isn't a catalyst as
> it certainly doesn't remain unchanged through the process.)
> Dunno if it does or not, of course.
>
> I know of quite a few ways to encumber the efficiency of
> combustion, it's not outside the realm of possibility that
> one might be able to eke out a bit on the positive side of
> the equation.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] H2-O2 vs mileage

[John Robbins]

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> The gas internal combustion process is very clean & complete these days, so
> clean that pretty much all that comes out of the exhaust is CO2 and water
> vapor.

I believe most of that is due to the super high tech/well designed 
catalytic converters.  They've improved the combustion yes (increased 
MPG)... but the cleaner air out than what came in is due to the cats.

The gas direct injection engines are long overdue IMO, and they are 
reportedly going to make the gassers comparable to diesels in efficiency.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Loren Faeth]

We had a sickle grinder.  Kind of like a swing saw.  When I was 8 or 
9 I had to start grinding sickle bars.  The old AC mower that was on 
the JD was a little more complex to pull the sickle.  On the JD we 
had to pull a pin.  I don't remember how the sickle on the IH mower 
unhoooked.   I liked the 9' mower on the 2020 because it was big and 
unwieldy.  You had to put the bar to vertical manually, and that was 
a bear, so we drove it around with the bar down mostly.  I liked the 
IH because it was a 1967 mower and the hydraulic cylinder raised the 
mower in two stages.  All we had to do was put on the chain so the 
pressure could be let off the hydraulics.


At 08:26 AM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
> > I don't miss changing sickle bars and changing the sickles
> > on the bar.
>
>I don't remember it being all that hard.  Pop one latch
>lever and slide the bar out the end.  Knock off a tooth
>with a BFH with one swipe on the anvil, shearing the old
>rivets, and rivet on a new tooth using the little IH
>molded anvil doohickey and the same BFH.  Couple more
>swipes per tooth.  We had the requisite box of teeth
>and a jar of the copper rivets.  Putting them on would have
>been much harder without the anvil jig that held the bar
>and the blade in relative position.
>
>We'd only replace individual teeth that got damaged.  When
>the whole bar was dull we'd take them in to swap for a sharp
>one at the co-op.  That was fairly cost-effective.
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Draw your car

[Rolf]

http://superturbodiesel.com/images/std_big.jpg

I like my version :)

-Rolf


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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Curt Raymond]

Did anybody NOT what to be a shiner when they were little after seeing them in 
the carts? I wanted to drive the rear on the firetruck...

I'm thinking this might be my next challenge after the hovercraft is done...

-Curt

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When I was little I went to the Shrine Circus (they sponsored the RBB&B 
Circus when it came to town) and saw a bunch of Shriners doing sychro 
driving with some little go-cart kind of things.  They were wearing 
fezzes and were generally fat (the Shriners, not the little go-cart 
things, which were painted metal-flake), straining the little go-carts 
mightily.  I really wanted to be a Shriner but my mother told me I 
couldn't until I was older, though she bought me a fez at the junk 
stand.  Now that I am older I don't want to be a Shriner.  I still want 
a fez though.

--R



  
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Re: [MBZ] H2-O2 vs mileage

[Tom Hargrave]

Modern engines with catalytic converters run very slightly above the
stoichiometric point, so little that there is no measurable impact on the
car's fuel economy, at least none that we can measure. They run slightly
above to minimize carbon monoxide.

The primary task of a catalytic converter is to reduce nitrogen oxides and
carbon monoxide and both of these components have already been burned. In
other words, a catalytic converter does not burn anything! It's already been
burned!

The process inside a catalytic converter is not a combustion process; it's a
reaction in the presence of a catalyst. No additional oxygen is being
introduced for anything to burn and if oxygen were introduced then nothing
would burn.

A catalytic converter gets hot during the process but the heat it produces
is very minor when compared to the heat energy that's lost through the
radiator and exhaust from the engine.

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> The gas internal combustion process is very clean & complete these 
> days, so
> clean that pretty much all that comes out of the exhaust is CO2 and 
> water
> vapor.

In a sense that doesn't count, as much of that 'efficiency' is
due to final combustion inside the catalytic converter where it
does nothing for propulsion.  If you could do anything to make
the existing burn more complete, and/or have its pressure curve
somehow better shaped for extraction of energy via the piston
as it moves over its sinusoidal path, then you would see a gain.

> What about propane fumigation of a diesel engine? Does it add more
> power than an equal BTU value of diesel fuel?

Supposedly, yes.  My neighbor's done some research.

> And is this gain more than you would get by
> advancing the timing until an equal combustion pressure was attained?

Good question.  I do know that if you're seeing soot you're
seeing unburned fuel, so there's room for improvement in the
basic diesel process.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Draw your car

[Rich Thomas]

Here you can learn how to immortalize your ride with paper and graphite:

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--R

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article
> as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous.

It was run as a political opinion column, so no argument there. OTOH, if he was 
not really one of the leading Socialists in the Senate, what incentive would 
they have for calling him one?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] O2 Sensor?

[Luther]

That bridge is NOT shiny! :)

Luther

Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Good on ya, you just did Rusty out of a very lucrative sale, the elusive 
> O2 sensor for Diesel engines that needs to be changed every oil change.
> I think the modern Diesels havce a sensor to monitor output but not sure.
> Also the O2 sensor can be tested, relatively easy.
>
> Hendrik
> who has a big shiny bridge for sale in Sydney
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>   
>> you do not have one
>>
>> LarryT wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Howdy -
>>> Saw a part in a catalog for my 91 300D -- a O2 Sensor.  Are O2 sensors 
>>> being 
>>> used in something like my 91 300D 2.5T??   Not sure why but I thought O2 
>>> sensors were only used in gas fuel systems.  As I said, not sure where that 
>>> idea came from -
>>>
>>> If I have one (didnt see one in the WSM) where is it and how often are they 
>>> being changed?  Saw a thing somewhere - Bosch advert perhaps saying the )2 
>>> should be changed with each oil change.  Seems a bit excessive - especially 
>>> with the very
>>> expensive 02's --
>>>
>>> TIA !
>>>
>>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
>>>   

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

> Same thing happens with the slide-open rear windows.  If you're
> hauling a load of mulch or something like that, and you open that
> window, you'll get a lot of little bits of mulch swirling around into
> the cab.

In the 70's, we had a F100 with a topper on the back, and pass through windows 
on both. The dog, riding in the back, loved the wind tunnel effect between the 
cab and cap, which would bring many wonderful smells to him. He could hold his 
nose there all day, despite the fact that it made him sneeze. If you opened the 
back window on the cab to take advantage of this breeze, it often came with a 
bonus of sloppy wet dog sneeze down the back of your neck.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WTF is this?

[Luther]

That might be pigeon $#it.

Luther

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> Looks like someone yacked on the hood after they saw the taillights...
>
>
> Bob R
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:44 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] WTF is this?
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  1968 Mercedes Benz Limousine - $1200 (Keller)
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:42:07 UT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.
> Please see below for more information.
> 
>
>
>  1968 Mercedes Benz Limousine
>
> Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Date: 2008-08-11, 11:14AM
>
> For sale is this 1968 MB Limo. It is in need of a total (interior and
> exterior) restoration. It would be a great car for personal ue or to use
> for a business. The car is located in a covered storage facility in
> Keller. I'll be happy to meet potential buyers to view the car. Thanks
> for looking.
>
>  * Location: Keller
>  * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other
>commercial interests
>
> Original URL: http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/791820556.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Rich Thomas]

When I was little I went to the Shrine Circus (they sponsored the RBB&B 
Circus when it came to town) and saw a bunch of Shriners doing sychro 
driving with some little go-cart kind of things.  They were wearing 
fezzes and were generally fat (the Shriners, not the little go-cart 
things, which were painted metal-flake), straining the little go-carts 
mightily.  I really wanted to be a Shriner but my mother told me I 
couldn't until I was older, though she bought me a fez at the junk 
stand.  Now that I am older I don't want to be a Shriner.  I still want 
a fez though.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[Jim Cathey]

> Same thing happens with the slide-open rear windows.  If you're
> hauling a load of mulch or something like that, and you open that
> window, you'll get a lot of little bits of mulch swirling around
> into the cab.

Same thing happens with an SL if you take off the trunk lid and
bring home a load of mulch that way.  :-)

That's why that pop-up windscreen is so highly thought of,
it removes that from-the-rear buffeting at speed yet preserves
the convertible experience.

S'help me, I've always thought a 107 SL-camino would be a mighty
fine looking rig, if one had a body shop of one's own.  Or
a big checkbook.  Just don't haul mulch in it with the lid off.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MASSIVE improvements on the cheap 300E

[Luther]

How hard is this to do on the 126 SDL?

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Well the AC on the cheap 300E works, but not much air flow.  I decide to 
> figure out why.  I pull the wiper assembly to get to the blower.  Pull 
> the blower to get to the evaporator.  Completely caked in crap.  I clean 
> out the evaporator and put it back together.  MASSIVE improvement.  Back 
> when I got the car, first thing I did was pull exhaust off parts car and 
> install on cheap 300E.  Well if you all recall the posts about that I 
> ended up using adapters and clamps.  Well I have always still had a 
> little bit of a leak causing the car to be much louder than it should 
> be.  Well today I got done working early so I headed to the exhaust 
> shop.  I had them weld it up properly.  MASSIVE improvement, I mean 
> MASSIVE.  Car is VERY quiet now, very smooth.  WOW. This car just keeps 
> getting better and better.  If I have it much longer, next thing I know 
> I will be fixing the couple of dents it has.
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[MBZ] OT - kind of - MA car inspections?

[Donald Snook]

Ok Don wrote: "What are the parameters for inspections in MA?  Would an '86 
300E be
likely to pass, or more than likely not?"

Why do you want to know? Is your son headed off to Harvard or MIT?


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[Rich Thomas]

IBD -- a bright shining star of hope (oops, shouldn't use THAT word,  I 
should change it, ps again...) in the murky sky of the mainstream media!

Hey, about that Johnny Edwards?  Hoodababydaddy?  Which America  is that 
again?

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article
> as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous.
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> i read pravda mostly
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> What would you call an "objective source of news"?
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:40 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective
 source of
 news...

 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Jim Cathey]

> I don't miss changing sickle bars and changing the sickles
> on the bar.

I don't remember it being all that hard.  Pop one latch
lever and slide the bar out the end.  Knock off a tooth
with a BFH with one swipe on the anvil, shearing the old
rivets, and rivet on a new tooth using the little IH
molded anvil doohickey and the same BFH.  Couple more
swipes per tooth.  We had the requisite box of teeth
and a jar of the copper rivets.  Putting them on would have
been much harder without the anvil jig that held the bar
and the blade in relative position.

We'd only replace individual teeth that got damaged.  When
the whole bar was dull we'd take them in to swap for a sharp
one at the co-op.  That was fairly cost-effective.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Barry O'Bama

[andrew strasfogel]

I never claimed any news source was objective, but to cite that IBD article
as anything other than right wing opinion is ludicrous.

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> > Andrew,
> >
> > What would you call an "objective source of news"?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:40 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > > Investors Business Daily is not what i would call an objective
> > > source of
> > > news...
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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ever have a pickup with a sunroof? They don't work, you open the
> sunroof and all the dirt from the bed goes into it. I know it sounds
> strange but its true.

Same thing happens with the slide-open rear windows.  If you're
hauling a load of mulch or something like that, and you open that
window, you'll get a lot of little bits of mulch swirling around into
the cab.

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Re: [MBZ] men's synchro diving

[Rich Thomas]

It's closer to 1 in 1 or 2 of synchro divers.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> One in 10 what?
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> One in ten might be gay.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> My daughter remarked a bit earlier that she wished they would put the
>>> men's synchro diving back on, when the ladies beach volleyball was on.
>>> She liked looking at the boys.  I remarked they were all gay, she did
>>> not disagree (she has high-gain gaydar) but still wanted to look at
>>> them.  Might be the little speedo bikini bottoms.
>>>
>>> That short girl on the US Vball pair is INTENSE.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>>>   
 That being said, I am sure any competitor on the team could kick any of
 
>>> our
>>>   
 butts. My chest and arms haven't looked like that since the mid 1980s.

 Gay-looking or not, one has to admire the athleticism.

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Re: [MBZ] H2-O2 vs mileage

[Jim Cathey]

> The gas internal combustion process is very clean & complete these 
> days, so
> clean that pretty much all that comes out of the exhaust is CO2 and 
> water
> vapor.

In a sense that doesn't count, as much of that 'efficiency' is
due to final combustion inside the catalytic converter where it
does nothing for propulsion.  If you could do anything to make
the existing burn more complete, and/or have its pressure curve
somehow better shaped for extraction of energy via the piston
as it moves over its sinusoidal path, then you would see a gain.

> What about propane fumigation of a diesel engine? Does it add more
> power than an equal BTU value of diesel fuel?

Supposedly, yes.  My neighbor's done some research.

> And is this gain more than you would get by
> advancing the timing until an equal combustion pressure was attained?

Good question.  I do know that if you're seeing soot you're
seeing unburned fuel, so there's room for improvement in the
basic diesel process.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Paint Code

[LarryT]

Thx DOn!!  Exactly what I need.  (and then some)
;-)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint Code


> You can look it up on the EPC-online - put in your VIN, then click
> data card at the top -- paint  code is on the bottom left corner of
> the data card info screen.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Alex Chamberlain
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Where might I find the paint code for my 91 300D 2.5t W124 ?
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] men's synchro diving

[andrew strasfogel]

One in 10 what?

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One in ten might be gay.
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My daughter remarked a bit earlier that she wished they would put the
> > men's synchro diving back on, when the ladies beach volleyball was on.
> > She liked looking at the boys.  I remarked they were all gay, she did
> > not disagree (she has high-gain gaydar) but still wanted to look at
> > them.  Might be the little speedo bikini bottoms.
> >
> > That short girl on the US Vball pair is INTENSE.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > > That being said, I am sure any competitor on the team could kick any of
> > our
> > > butts. My chest and arms haven't looked like that since the mid 1980s.
> > >
> > > Gay-looking or not, one has to admire the athleticism.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:43 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ya think?
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >> From: Gary Hurst
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Re: [MBZ] Paint Code

[LarryT]

Hi Tom -

WoW!  This is a cool site (http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng)  anyone 
with a modern VIN system - VIN starting WDBEB - you get a world of 
informaton about your car here - much more than just the paint code I was 
looking for.  ;-)  Thx agn -


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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint Code


> LarryT wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> Got an address for the EPC?  Can;t get the MBUSA Site Map page to work 
>> and
>> didn;t see any search function for the MB --
>
> http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/
>
> If you just want the datacard, this is much easier:
> http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Farmall Promenade Was Synchro diving

[Loren Faeth]

Yep.  I did that mostly with the JD H and 7' sickle, and then the 
2020 with a 9' sickle bar and some with the IH 240., again with a 7' 
sickle.  I don't miss changing sickle bars and changing the sickles 
on the bar.  But you can do things with a sickle bar mower that you 
can't come close to with a rotary mower, and vice versa.  My dream 
was always to have a JD 730 Diesel.  The last of the big 2 cylinders.

If anyone is interested in a nice tractor for shows and 
tractor-rides, the 2020 and its 9' JD model 10 mounted sickle bar 
mower and the 240 IH with mounted sickle bar and rear mounted 
forklift will be sold at the auction.  There will be live online 
bidding.  Just don't know the dates yet.  2020 was just 
overhauled.  Has good paint and new rear tires.it will go 
anywhere.  JD 1530 is similar, but it still has the original tires, 
also overhauled a couple of hundred hours ago.  2020 probably has 
less than 100 hr after overhaul.

At 12:38 AM 8/12/2008, you wrote:
> > It is great fun for everyone, but especially those who have spent
> > hours on a A, B, C, H or M Farmall.  I still love to spin the H on a
> > dime, or better yet, get the trailer behind to spin on a dime.  When
> > i use the new tractor with the stupid MFWD and it takes an acre to
> > turn around, I really appreciate how the C, H and M, and for that
> > matter JD A, B and H will turn on a dime.
>
>Fondly I remember spinning our Farmall 200 around on one
>or the other rear wheel.  The tricycle gear really helps
>that!  And the rear brakes, of course.  I used to clear
>fenceline with that tractor and a sickle-bar mower.  It
>was a real art to be able to trim to within a few stalks
>of grass up to the post without breaking off the end tooth
>of the bar or hooking the post with it at the very least,
>all without stopping and just weaving in and out.  I was
>better at it than my brothers.
>
>-- Jim
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[MBZ] anyone need a 300TE 4matic to cruise the hood?

[Hendrik & Fay]

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[Curt Raymond]

My great uncle had an '88 GMC with a sunroof, he told me not to open the 
sunroof but what did he know?

Well he knew why you shouldn't open the sunroof for one.

-Curt

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:39 AM

I've always wondered why P/U don't have sunroofs, now I know.  I note
the late model GMC have one, a buddy has one.  I'll ask him about it.
YOU are very right about light weight trash mitigating to the front of the box.

Pete


 -- Original message --
From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Doubt it. 
> What you would think would happen is the air comes over the top of the
truck, 
> down into the bed and hits that tailgate. 
> Throw a plastic cup in the bed and see what happens. If the airstream is
what 
> you think it is the air should grab that cup, slam it against the tailgate
and 
> throw it back out. Stuff tends to stay in the bed of pickup and NOT slam
the 
> tailgate. In fact if you throw a bunch of light stuff in the bed it'll
end up 
> against the FRONT of the bed (on average, some will escape). Ever have a
pickup 
> with a sunroof? They don't work, you open the sunroof and all the dirt
from the 
> bed goes into it. I know it sounds strange but its true.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:26:57 -0500
> From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Just curious, but do you think that rule applies to older trucks? I can
see 
> where it is likely false on the newer
> trucks as I assume (I know that is a dangerous word) the auto makers would
have 
> tested the theory and produced
> tailgates with holes in them if it improved the mileage much but I wonder
if 
> there might be more likelihood of it
> working with trucks in the 50's and 60's.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[Mitch Haley]

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> I've always wondered why P/U don't have sunroofs, now I know.  I note the 
> late model GMC have one, a buddy has one.  I'll ask him about it.
> YOU are very right about light weight trash mitigating to the front of the 
> box.
> 

Dad's '96 Dakota had a power S/R, but it was an extended cab. Never noticed any 
problem with it that wasn't leak related. (and it didn't start leaking until it 
suffered a mechanical failure and quit closing properly)

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Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers

[PM7088]

I've always wondered why P/U don't have sunroofs, now I know.  I note the late 
model GMC have one, a buddy has one.  I'll ask him about it.
YOU are very right about light weight trash mitigating to the front of the box.

Pete


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From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Doubt it. 
> What you would think would happen is the air comes over the top of the truck, 
> down into the bed and hits that tailgate. 
> Throw a plastic cup in the bed and see what happens. If the airstream is what 
> you think it is the air should grab that cup, slam it against the tailgate 
> and 
> throw it back out. Stuff tends to stay in the bed of pickup and NOT slam the 
> tailgate. In fact if you throw a bunch of light stuff in the bed it'll end up 
> against the FRONT of the bed (on average, some will escape). Ever have a 
> pickup 
> with a sunroof? They don't work, you open the sunroof and all the dirt from 
> the 
> bed goes into it. I know it sounds strange but its true.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:26:57 -0500
> From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's volvo and bumper stickers
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Just curious, but do you think that rule applies to older trucks? I can see 
> where it is likely false on the newer
> trucks as I assume (I know that is a dangerous word) the auto makers would 
> have 
> tested the theory and produced
> tailgates with holes in them if it improved the mileage much but I wonder if 
> there might be more likelihood of it
> working with trucks in the 50's and 60's.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
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[MBZ] fancy VW slightly OT

[Hendrik & Fay]

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