Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63]

I'm tempted to bottom-feed on a diesel-powered SUV now.  I would think that the 
double whammy of high fuel costs and higher diesel fuel than RUG would mean a 
nice bargaining advantage.

Even though I probably wouldn't need it very often (tow the boat on weekends in 
the summer, occasional road trips to Asheville or Atlanta), it sure would be 
nice to have a spacious ride for the family, and right now the cash flow is 
such that we may be able to pay cash in 6 months or so...

Hmmm, can I justify tying up the cash and paying the insurance premiums?  
Probably not...

 

Very respectfully,

/s/

Max Dillon

'87 300TD, 310k miles

Charleston SC

Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001

 

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I think I want a Suburban. Wife is extremely in favor of that opinion.




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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Kevin Kraly]

I'd just thought the other day that I should get the bearings checked and 
repacked, its been a while...

The ones on my 300sD were done while it was up for the new ball joint.  One 
of my 300CD's had a wheel bearing groan -- I guess it's not good to put it 
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday/McMansions

[Wonko the Sane]

Those are the standard houses in the DC suburbs located in northern
Virginia. Used to own one myself (Lake Ridge, VA). They are popular in areas
where there are two income families making obscene (to me) wages. The "poor"
(which I was) had a combined income, in the early '80s, of just the low six
digits.

In the area where I lived, that normally meant a military officer and a
working wife, and sometimes a married couple where both were mid-level or
even senior military officers. Also senior GS/GM civil service folks working
for the government. A couple of SES folks thrown into the mix, too. [Andrew
will understand completely.]

I was the junior officer in the neighborhood. Had a General living about a
mile from me. There was an Army Colonel who was killed by terrorists -- his
name escapes me now -- who I used to see jogging every day until he
disappeared. Beirut, I think. Higgins or something like that?

The house in discussion listed for $260K (early 1980s) -- I got it for
$235K. Mortgage payments were no sweat -- about half a month's take-home for
me, money still left over for two car payments. Nice colonial, four bedrooms
(with one of the bedrooms actually a sitting room, with French doors,
adjoining the master bedroom suite). In the center of a quiet cul de sac. 2
1/2 baths, walk-out finished basement, two car garage (with three cars,
counting the MGB), huge lot.

And lots of stress, unhappiness and broken marriages all around me --
including my first marriage.

McMansions are not out of the reach of many folks. It all depends on the
dollar amount that shows up on your pay stub, and whether you want to pump
your income into your dwelling or your savings account.

My two younger brothers (Florida) both live in what are essentially gated
communities. Really nice, big houses. So what?

It is all about priorities. I much prefer where I live now ($75K house).

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All these McMansions are built on shaky credit.  Lots of them out in
> PNW are for M$ Minions who bought with stock options before the bubble
> burst.  I am expecting a bunch of the older ones will do ok, but newer
> ones will default, since they are too leveraged.
>
> clay
>
>
>
>
> On 28 Aug 2008, at 10:40, Wilton Strickland wrote:
>
> > "McMansion" reminds me of another question I've been asking while
> > driving
> > through the countryside for many years, "Where are all these 30 and
> > 35-year-old people getting all the money to build all these huge
> > houses?"
> > 'Been getting some answers on that recently, haven't we?
> >
> > BTW, notice how the McMansions try to "out-gable" each other?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> > wrote:
> >>> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they
> > seem to
> >>> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little
> >>> Johnny and
> >>> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very
> >>> efficient
> > use
> >>> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
> > yours."
> >>
> >> They feel safer in there, I think.  It's like they're taking their
> >> McMansion with them wherever they go.  "Small blonde hermit crabs of
> >> the suburbs---next on the Discovery Channel."
> >>
> >> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[Gary Hurst]

this doesn't make any sense.  what sort of margins does a big supermarket
chain operate one?

let's say 5 percent, although i understand the total is lower.  so they will
be losing 23 percent on every card sale (which is a lot), which they can
recover in a year or so?

this would put nearly everyone who operates on taking credit cards out of
business.  not even my government is quite this stupid.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John,
>
> This is not the same ruling.
>
> Here's the one I am talking about:
> http://taxes.about.com/od/businesstaxes/qt/cardreporting.htm
>
> And it starts in 2011, not in 2010 or 2009.
>
> The triggers are gross receipts over 20K or 200 transactions / year. It's
> easy to cross 200 transactions / year without getting close to 20K with low
> dollar eBay sales.
>
> The impact on small eBay sellers is that most are running a margin of 20%
> or
> less after covering their material cost, eBay fees and PayPal fees. And
> most
> don't have a FEIN. Without a FEIN, their gross receipts (and not just their
> margin) will be subject to 28% withholding. Also, I suspect that most don't
> pay income tax and with low margins, selling on eBay will not be worth the
> effort. I suspect that a lot of them will just drop out of the eBay game.
> This is why I stated that the ruling would hurt eBay.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of John Freer
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)
>
> According to http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/paypal.asp, this is
> true but the intent is to review only offshore transactions. Also
> applies to more than just credit cards though.
>
> On 8/27/08, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wore rote:
> > A recent IRS ruling will require all CC processors (merchant accounts) to
> > report revenue to the IRS. And if your CC merchant account is setup with
> a
> > SS# instead of a FEIN#, your processor will be required to withhold
> income
> > tax against the revenue.
> >
> >
> >
> > The ruling will affect all PayPal accounts that are setup to accept
> credit
> > cards since the front end (the CC processing part of PayPal) is
> classified
> > as a merchant account. I don't know how PayPal will handle accounts that
> do
> > not process credit cards.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was wondering how the IRS was going to get their arms around the cash
> > flowing through eBay and now I know. I'm sure that this ruling will put a
> > few nails in eBay's coffin or at least it will slow them down a little.
> >
> >
> >
> > I gave up on eBay earlier this year because I could not compete with
> other,
> > smaller beer equipment resellers who I'm convinced are not paying any
> income
> > tax on their sales. From my point of view, the ruling will help to level
> the
> > playing field.
> >
> >
> >
> > The ruling goes into affect in 2009 or 2010 (don't remember which).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cynthia,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Hargrave
> >
> > HYPERLINK "http://www.kegkits.com"www.kegkits.com
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im talking about a real lift.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> A 26" wheel lift? Waste of time. You realize thats 2 feet 2 inches?
> A "real" 4 post lift? Priceless...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:59:24 -0500
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lifts
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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> You have no idea how wrong you are.  Once you have had a lift, you will 
> never go back.  Too bad I have never had one.
> 
> Curt Raymond wrote:
>> Professional quality floor jack and tall jackstands will accomplish the same 
>> thing and be more useful for other things...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:16 -0400
>> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lifts
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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>> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
>> lift height is 26".
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Peter Frederick]

It's not in the hub, it's on the axle shaft.  It woudn't budge when  
heated red hot with a propane torch.  The rear axles on a K-car are  
welded to a flat plate, just long enough to mount the wheel on.  They  
bolt to the sheet metal and torsion bar axle under the car.  A weld  
bead might fracture the race, but the axle is still junk.

The new one cost me maybe $50, and used ones are non-existant -- they  
make perfect trailer axles!

Peter 

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Wonko the Sane]

Remember -- folks on eBay buy grilled cheese sandwiches with the Virgin Mary
showing on the bread.

Market it as "an extremely rare Benz failure, one in a million (miles)" --
someone will definitely buy it. Don't forget to do the markup shipping
charges!

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Only as scrap iron.  There is a defective wheel bearing race spin
> welded onto the axle.
>
> Peter
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
> > Definite eBay candidate. Could be worth some money.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Peter Frederick
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> Still have the old stub somewhere downstairs with the inner race
> >> welded on.
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Jim Cathey]

> Only as scrap iron.  There is a defective wheel bearing race spin
> welded onto the axle.

Those are harder to get off!

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Jim Cathey]

> I never did get the race off the stub axle, I had to buy a new one.

The old farmer's race removal trick is to run a nice fat
hot bead down the inside of the race with the arc welder.
When it cools it shrinks, pulling the race away from the
hub.  It might take more than one bead to break it loose.

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Peter Frederick]

Only as scrap iron.  There is a defective wheel bearing race spin  
welded onto the axle.

Peter

On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:

> Definite eBay candidate. Could be worth some money.
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Peter Frederick  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Still have the old stub somewhere downstairs with the inner race
>> welded on.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update

[Jim Cathey]

> If you're referring to the lower manifold to head bolts, I solved that
> one years ago on the SDL - use a 1/4" socket set

That was the secret to getting the carbs out of my Merc 850.
That little socket and skinny shaft just slipped right in there.
I outfitted the boat toolkit with 1/4" sockets in all the sizes
it uses, and a Craftsman ratchet and a few lengths of extension
so that I'd always have the right-fitting tool.  Nothing like
working over water with zero depth to your tool and engine parts
collection.  (I also put a fishing magnet in the kit.)

My 1/4" socket tool collection is thin, I need to beef it up.

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Wonko the Sane]

Definite eBay candidate. Could be worth some money.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Still have the old stub somewhere downstairs with the inner race
> welded on.
>



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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Jim Cathey]

> Is this common? I'd just thought the other day that I should get the 
> bearings checked and repacked, its been awhile...

I lost a wheel bearing like that on the Falcon once.
No real warning, went from no problem to no function
in a surprisingly short time.

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[Peter Frederick]

I had a rear wheel bearing go out kinda like that in Canada -- I was  
having some squeaky/clanky noises on the right rear, and assumed I  
had corroded brake shoes and needed to pull the drum and grease them  
where they contact the backing plate (they rub on a Dodge Aries).   
This is fairly common in Canada, the salt on the roads eats everything.

Before I got to it, I made my weekly trip across the bridge back to  
the US to shop and pick up mail, and heard a terrible crunch followed  
by really bad squeaking and thumping, so I limped home and jacked it up.

The bearings were so worn that the cage had been rolled through the  
bearings.  Nasty, shavings all over the place and the rollers were  
WAY undersized and rough.

Turns out this is also a common problem in Canada -- bearing gets  
warm driving on the highway and then you drive through a puddle of  
salty slush.  The grease shrinks and sucks salty water into the  
bearing if the seal is old, and when the water dries out in the  
summer, the resultant salt crystals grind up the bearing.  Happens  
fairly quick, too.

Never had one smoke before, though -- usually you get some warning  
with "loose" steering, lots of rumbling, or grinding or whistling  
noise before the bearing actually fails.

I never did get the race off the stub axle, I had to buy a new one.   
Still have the old stub somewhere downstairs with the inner race  
welded on.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] keeping chickens

[Redghost]

Imprinting is not really that immediate.  All my girls imprinted on me  
because I was the one there all the time giving attention.  The chicks  
were a few days old when I got them.  The more you hang with them, the  
more the imprint.  They do imprint on only one person/critter though.   
Could be the dog or the cat.. or you.

clay


On 28 Aug 2008, at 15:14, Rich Thomas wrote:

> There's a farm stand across the road and they have all kinds of  
> critters
> wandering the place, and a little petting zoo kind of thing for the  
> city
> folk.  Anyway, they have a bunch of chickens and ducks of various  
> sorts
> that lay eggs here and there, and when I stopped there the other day  
> the
> woman put a couple of eggs in a basket by the cash register that she  
> had
> just found somewhere.  Some are blueish and some are pinkish, kinda  
> strange.
>
> A few weeks ago they had a hen with 6 chicks and a duckling following
> her around, walking underfoot in the farm stand area.  They are quite
> tame, like pets.  Somehow the duckling got imprinted on the hen, I  
> guess
> the first thing it saw when it hatched or maybe the egg got put in her
> nest.  They had an article in the paper about it.
>
> --R
>
> Luther wrote:
>> For supper today I had 6 eggs.  4 were never refrigerated since I
>> brought them in from the chickens and fried them.  2 1/2 (1 extra  
>> large
>> double yoke) made a very tasty cheese omelet.  If you've never  
>> tasted a
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday/McMansions

[Redghost]

All these McMansions are built on shaky credit.  Lots of them out in  
PNW are for M$ Minions who bought with stock options before the bubble  
burst.  I am expecting a bunch of the older ones will do ok, but newer  
ones will default, since they are too leveraged.

clay




On 28 Aug 2008, at 10:40, Wilton Strickland wrote:

> "McMansion" reminds me of another question I've been asking while  
> driving
> through the countryside for many years, "Where are all these 30 and
> 35-year-old people getting all the money to build all these huge  
> houses?"
> 'Been getting some answers on that recently, haven't we?
>
> BTW, notice how the McMansions try to "out-gable" each other?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>
>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >
> wrote:
>>> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they
> seem to
>>> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little  
>>> Johnny and
>>> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very  
>>> efficient
> use
>>> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
> yours."
>>
>> They feel safer in there, I think.  It's like they're taking their
>> McMansion with them wherever they go.  "Small blonde hermit crabs of
>> the suburbs---next on the Discovery Channel."
>>
>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT best guinness commercial ever

[OK Don]

One with a bit of MB content --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiL79oxxfIE&feature=related


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rolf wrote:
>> SSFW
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrSSSfYE2dQ
>
> I guess commercials are a bit different elsewhere.
>
> Another example:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch9a4gzr60
>


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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Allan Streib]

"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I adore the TDI engine, but it's always seemed to me like a kludge
> to put an inline engine in an engine bay designed for a boxer, since
> the shapes are so different.  Don't you have to either modify the
> engine lid, ruining the nice long flat cargo area (which is one of
> the Vanagon's great features), or mount the engine really low,
> ruining ground clearance?

VW made the Vanagon with a diesel option, it was their standard I4
diesels.  It's mounted at a 50 degree angle I think, with a special
oil pan to give it clearance.  People who do inline gasser conversion
usually use the bellhousing from a diesel.  Done this way, there's no
need to alter the lid.  There's also a group in Boston who makes a
conversion kit using a Ford Zetec engine, which also fits under the
lid and has stock or near-stock ground clearance.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[Allan Streib]

"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I wonder how this affects CraigsList and local "Trading Post" type
> of sales?  Then's there's flea markets and yard sales - all ways to
> move money around.  IMHO the IRS should be content with employer
> related withholding and leave small time entreprenours alone..

They should stop taxing income altogther and move to a sales tax which
is much easier to collect and much harder avoid.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[Allan Streib]

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> A recent IRS ruling will require all CC processors (merchant
> accounts) to report revenue to the IRS. And if your CC merchant
> account is setup with a SS# instead of a FEIN#, your processor will
> be required to withhold income tax against the revenue.

Next, they're going to consider all the "rewards" that the various
credit cards offer as income, too.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh

[OK Don]

WOW - I've never heard of that happening before!

> I thought maybe I'd blown a tire but when I got out it was immediately 
> apparent I'd blown the driver's side front wheel bearing. There was smoke 
> pouring out and the center cap of the wheel was missing and nowhere to be 
> found. Looking inside I could see a piece of bearing cage.
>
> What the heck? I've never had that happen before. I waited for it to quit 
> smoking and tried easing forward. The scary squeeking noises made me think 
> thats a bad idea. I got it towed to my Indy. Fortunately the weather is nice 
> so I can motorcycle to work tomorrow...
>
> Is this common? I'd just thought the other day that I should get the bearings 
> checked and repacked, its been awhile...
>
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Curt Raymond]

Not where you live anyway, Canada is full of them. Friends in New Brunswick say 
its a plauge...

I'll never live with one of them somebitches. I got precious few freedoms as it 
is without some stuck up idiot telling me I'm bringing down property values...

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:05 PM

Don't have those around here thank goodness.

Randy

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Yeahbut they're banned by the HOA.

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:55 -0500
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Yeah, Andrew needs to do that too. Then his McMansion garage could have
sufficient height for the full size lift!

Randy




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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[OK Don]

Our Plymouth Grand Voyager gets 22 to 24 mpg, will haul a 4x8 sheet of
plywood with the seats out, haul the boat to the lake just fine, seats
7, etc. Hauled the 117 iron engine from MN in it. It's comfortable on
trips, but without soul.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Randy wrote: "That is the problem and one of the reasons why SUV's became 
> popular. They are just the tall stationwagons of old. They haul like a truck 
> and like a van and can tow a trailer or boat etc. I had a Suburban for 10 
> years and it was great for the 175 mile (each way) to the lake. It was a 
> beast in city traffic and not very fuel efficient in town either but it was 
> great on the run to the lake. Seatbelts for 9 when needed. Pull the 3rd seat, 
> flip the 2nd and haul sheets of plywood like a pickup truck. I moved down to 
> a Toyota 4Runner and never really found it to be as useful."
>
> My wife loves her Expedition (and I enjoy everything about it, other than 15 
> mpg).  It really is great to drive.  It has leather and chrome wheels and a 6 
> disc cd-changer and 4WD (that was used exactly once, when we actually got 1 
> foot of snow).   I think the reason SUV's are so popular is they are very 
> useful to have and they offer a lot of utility.  The ONLY reason people 
> started rethinking them is because of the gas. If gas were to slip back to 
> $2.50, I would bear the pain and drive the expedition again.
>

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Re: [MBZ] *&$%#*! parking brake cable

[Curt Raymond]

No mate *shakes head* especially not the foot ones, the wife forgets

Of course I bet she won't on the 240D, she'll call me and tell me the car is 
broken

-Curt

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *&$%#*! parking brake cable
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 9:57 PM

Sounds like the use it or loose it syndrome. Use the parking brake
every time you park the car ---

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Tuesday when I left for work my wife called to tell me her cell phone was
in my 190D. I went back and left the car running while I ran inside. When I got
back on the road the parking brake lever wouldn't go all the way down and
the light was on...
>
> Yesterday while putting the console back together with the fixed fan
switch I worked the parking brake 20 or 30 times which seems to have settled it
back down again.
>
> I hate parking brakes, I never use 'em except once in awhile and then
this happens. The worse one was last spring when the parking brake on the pickup
stuck on at camp and we had to drive 5 miles into town with it on. When we got
to town we had no brakes since the fluid had boiled. That one cost me for all 4
brakes...
>
> The parking brake on my 240D is hopelessly stuck.
>
> So now I think every Saturday I'm gonna go out and actuate the parking
brake a couple times on all my vehicles I'm tired of 'em sticking.
>
> -Curt

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[MBZ] Uh oh

[Curt Raymond]

Coming home tonight I got off the highway onto a fast secondary road. Crested a 
hill at ~50mph when all to once several things happened:
The steering felt all squirrelly
and
I felt like I was losing power

I thought maybe I'd blown a tire but when I got out it was immediately apparent 
I'd blown the driver's side front wheel bearing. There was smoke pouring out 
and the center cap of the wheel was missing and nowhere to be found. Looking 
inside I could see a piece of bearing cage.

What the heck? I've never had that happen before. I waited for it to quit 
smoking and tried easing forward. The scary squeeking noises made me think 
thats a bad idea. I got it towed to my Indy. Fortunately the weather is nice so 
I can motorcycle to work tomorrow...

Is this common? I'd just thought the other day that I should get the bearings 
checked and repacked, its been awhile...

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[R A Bennell]

Don't have those around here thank goodness.

Randy

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday


Yeahbut they're banned by the HOA.

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:55 -0500
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Yeah, Andrew needs to do that too. Then his McMansion garage could have 
sufficient height for the full size lift!

Randy




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Re: [MBZ] *&$%#*! parking brake cable

[OK Don]

Sounds like the use it or loose it syndrome. Use the parking brake
every time you park the car ---

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tuesday when I left for work my wife called to tell me her cell phone was in 
> my 190D. I went back and left the car running while I ran inside. When I got 
> back on the road the parking brake lever wouldn't go all the way down and the 
> light was on...
>
> Yesterday while putting the console back together with the fixed fan switch I 
> worked the parking brake 20 or 30 times which seems to have settled it back 
> down again.
>
> I hate parking brakes, I never use 'em except once in awhile and then this 
> happens. The worse one was last spring when the parking brake on the pickup 
> stuck on at camp and we had to drive 5 miles into town with it on. When we 
> got to town we had no brakes since the fluid had boiled. That one cost me for 
> all 4 brakes...
>
> The parking brake on my 240D is hopelessly stuck.
>
> So now I think every Saturday I'm gonna go out and actuate the parking brake 
> a couple times on all my vehicles I'm tired of 'em sticking.
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Curt Raymond]

A 26" wheel lift? Waste of time. You realize thats 2 feet 2 inches?
A "real" 4 post lift? Priceless...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:59:24 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lifts
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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You have no idea how wrong you are.  Once you have had a lift, you will 
never go back.  Too bad I have never had one.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Professional quality floor jack and tall jackstands will accomplish the same 
> thing and be more useful for other things...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:16 -0400
> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lifts
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
> lift height is 26".


  
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Curt Raymond]

Yeahbut they're banned by the HOA.

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:55 -0500
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Yeah, Andrew needs to do that too. Then his McMansion garage could have 
sufficient height for the full size lift!

Randy



  
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update

[OK Don]

It's more the principle of the matter - that the enginelooks complete
now, after being apart all summer.
If you're referring to the lower manifold to head bolts, I solved that
one years ago on the SDL - use a 1/4" socket set, cut a 6mm Allen
wrench to get a piece to make a bit that fits in the 6mm socket for
the 1/4" drive set. Use an extension - and some blue locktite to hold
the bit in the socket. Fits like a charm.

Post your tool pics - we'd all like to see.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:15 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK Don wrote:
>> (We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
>> think about taking it off again.)
>
> If you make the right tool it is a walk in the park.  On my 2.5T I
> couldn't remove the manifold at all without it.  When I replaced the
> delivery valves a month or so ago, I took the manifold off, replaced the
> delivery valve seals (no more leaks!!) and put the manifold back on in
> ~5 hours.  Took me three days to get the manifold off of the '87 300TD
> without the tool.  Haven't had the chance to work on that car lately though.
>
> If you want pics of the tool I made let me know, and I'll post them to
> the list.
>
> John

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300E going fully on the market soon

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh geez

Gary Hurst wrote:
> all i want cheap is your chubby okie body
> 
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
>> Will have one or the other of my 190D's going this weekend, so I will be
>> ready to put the cheap yet good 300E everywhere to get it sold.  Anybody
>> want it cheap now better let me know.
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>>  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
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>>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] diesel suburban

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have always wanted one of those but never had one.  Had several 6.2's 
though.  My 95 1 ton was a 6.5, but just something about the diesel burbs

Allen Sawyer wrote:
> I have 95 diesel suburban and drive it at 60 miles per hour on trips.  I get 
> 22 mpg at that speed but it would drop 20% at 65.  With the 40 gallon tank, 
> it will easily go more than 800 miles.
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300E going fully on the market soon

[Gary Hurst]

all i want cheap is your chubby okie body

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Will have one or the other of my 190D's going this weekend, so I will be
> ready to put the cheap yet good 300E everywhere to get it sold.  Anybody
> want it cheap now better let me know.
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>  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
>  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, post them

John Robbins wrote:
> OK Don wrote:
>> (We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
>> think about taking it off again.)
> 
> If you make the right tool it is a walk in the park.  On my 2.5T I 
> couldn't remove the manifold at all without it.  When I replaced the 
> delivery valves a month or so ago, I took the manifold off, replaced the 
> delivery valve seals (no more leaks!!) and put the manifold back on in 
> ~5 hours.  Took me three days to get the manifold off of the '87 300TD 
> without the tool.  Haven't had the chance to work on that car lately though.
> 
> If you want pics of the tool I made let me know, and I'll post them to 
> the list.
> 
> John
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

speaking of lifts, wondered about installing one on a concrete pad 
outside?  I end up working outside most of the time anyway, will the 
weather ruin one? I have seen them installed outside at all kinds of 
shops around here.

Mitch Haley wrote:
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
>> lift height is 26".
> 
> Does it lift the chassis or the wheels?
> 
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You have no idea how wrong you are.  Once you have had a lift, you will 
never go back.  Too bad I have never had one.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Professional quality floor jack and tall jackstands will accomplish the same 
> thing and be more useful for other things...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:16 -0400
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> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
> lift height is 26".
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
>> It's the difference between lying on your back unable to reach or see
>> anything, let alone get decent leverage on a stuck bolt and standing
>> up doing the job the easy way.
>>
>> Someday
>>
>> Peter
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  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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[MBZ] cheap 300E going fully on the market soon

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Will have one or the other of my 190D's going this weekend, so I will be 
ready to put the cheap yet good 300E everywhere to get it sold.  Anybody 
want it cheap now better let me know.
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  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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[MBZ] Westfalia

[Wilton Strickland]

Younger son had 'bout an '02 Westfalia with V-6; 'drove it 'bout 130 kmi;
'sold it a year ago for nearly 75% of what he paid for it new; 'bought an MB
R320CDI ('O7, I think).

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question: Books

[MG]

Curt,

If you ever want to get rid of any scifi or fantasy books, send them to 
me. I'll pay the shipping.

Manfred



Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


My Dad reads like crazy, every time I go to my parent's house I have to
  take a couple bags of books. It takes me months to work through them.
  Then I have to give them away, he doesn't want them back. Mostly sci-fi
  and fantasy stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] keeping chickens

[Rich Thomas]

There's a farm stand across the road and they have all kinds of critters 
wandering the place, and a little petting zoo kind of thing for the city 
folk.  Anyway, they have a bunch of chickens and ducks of various sorts 
that lay eggs here and there, and when I stopped there the other day the 
woman put a couple of eggs in a basket by the cash register that she had 
just found somewhere.  Some are blueish and some are pinkish, kinda strange.

A few weeks ago they had a hen with 6 chicks and a duckling following 
her around, walking underfoot in the farm stand area.  They are quite 
tame, like pets.  Somehow the duckling got imprinted on the hen, I guess 
the first thing it saw when it hatched or maybe the egg got put in her 
nest.  They had an article in the paper about it.

--R

Luther wrote:
> For supper today I had 6 eggs.  4 were never refrigerated since I 
> brought them in from the chickens and fried them.  2 1/2 (1 extra large 
> double yoke) made a very tasty cheese omelet.  If you've never tasted a 
> fresh egg, you do not know what you are missing!
>
> Luther
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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd do a TDI

I adore the TDI engine, but it's always seemed to me like a kludge to
put an inline engine in an engine bay designed for a boxer, since the
shapes are so different.  Don't you have to either modify the engine
lid, ruining the nice long flat cargo area (which is one of the
Vanagon's great features), or mount the engine really low, ruining
ground clearance?

Maybe you could wait for the diesel Subarus that are coming here in '09...

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Tyler Backman]

I'd do a TDI

Sincerely,
Tyler William H Backman
1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel


On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> If I win the lottery I'm buying one of those Vanagon Westies and then
> getting a Subaru engine put in it.
>
> Alex

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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A friend bought herself a Econoline and had a pop-top conversion done this
> spring, now she's touring Northern USA and Canada in it. Not as pretty as that
> Westy though.
> http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w325/newly2b/Badlands/?action=view¤t=ScreenHunter_03Aug201428.gif


Neat!

The context-sensitive ads or whatever you call them that GMail puts on
the edge of your screen as you read had a link to this place, selling
refurbished Vanagon Westies, Eurovans, and pop-top Honda Elements, of
all things.
http://www.poptopheaven.com/

If I win the lottery I'm buying one of those Vanagon Westies and then
getting a Subaru engine put in it.

Alex

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[MBZ] keeping chickens

[Luther]

For supper today I had 6 eggs.  4 were never refrigerated since I 
brought them in from the chickens and fried them.  2 1/2 (1 extra large 
double yoke) made a very tasty cheese omelet.  If you've never tasted a 
fresh egg, you do not know what you are missing!

Luther

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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Mitch Haley]

A friend bought herself a Econoline and had a pop-top conversion done this 
spring, now she's touring Northern USA and Canada in it. Not as pretty as that 
Westy though.
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Mitch Haley]

R A Bennell wrote:
> I wish the insurance folks would let me swap plates from one to another. 

I always have plates on 2-3 cars, but I rarely, if ever, insure more than one.

When the Achieva breaks a plastic water outlet and spews coolant, I call up the 
agent and ask to transfer all coverage from the 1997 Oldsmobile to the 1986 
Mercedes, and drive the 190E for a day or two.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Donald Snook]

Randy wrote: "That is the problem and one of the reasons why SUV's became 
popular. They are just the tall stationwagons of old. They haul like a truck 
and like a van and can tow a trailer or boat etc. I had a Suburban for 10 years 
and it was great for the 175 mile (each way) to the lake. It was a beast in 
city traffic and not very fuel efficient in town either but it was great on the 
run to the lake. Seatbelts for 9 when needed. Pull the 3rd seat, flip the 2nd 
and haul sheets of plywood like a pickup truck. I moved down to a Toyota 
4Runner and never really found it to be as useful."

My wife loves her Expedition (and I enjoy everything about it, other than 15 
mpg).  It really is great to drive.  It has leather and chrome wheels and a 6 
disc cd-changer and 4WD (that was used exactly once, when we actually got 1 
foot of snow).   I think the reason SUV's are so popular is they are very 
useful to have and they offer a lot of utility.  The ONLY reason people started 
rethinking them is because of the gas. If gas were to slip back to $2.50, I 
would bear the pain and drive the expedition again.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pull the 3rd seat, flip the 2nd and
> haul sheets of plywood like a pickup truck.

Hmm, interesting.  Never having had a Suburban I didn't know they had
a 4x8 load area with the 2nd row seats folded down.  Maybe I should
get one to replace my '93 Isuzu Trooper when it dies.  I do have an
need now and then for heavy hauling, and for a high-clearance 4x4.

The only thing the Trooper lacks that I'd ideally like to have in the
same occasional-use vehicle would be towing capacity sufficient for a
car trailer with a real car on it (i.e. something that weighs a couple
of tons, rather than a Midget, Formula Ford, etc.).  What kind of
trailer can you haul with, let's say, an early-'00s Suburban with the
Vortec 350?  Those seem to be awfully cheap these days.

Alex Chamberlain

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Re: [MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[Rolf]

Thats hot but looks pricey.

-Rolf

LWB250 wrote:
> For all you former Beetle owners who always lusted for a Westfalia camper:
>
> http://www.verdier.ca/
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] The Latest Westfalia

[LWB250]

For all you former Beetle owners who always lusted for a Westfalia camper:

http://www.verdier.ca/

Dan




  

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[R A Bennell]

That is the problem and one of the reasons why SUV's became popular. They are 
just the tall stationwagons of old.
They haul like a truck and like a van and can tow a trailer or boat etc. I had 
a Suburban for 10 years and it was
great for the 175 mile (each way) to the lake. It was a beast in city traffic 
and not very fuel efficient in town
either but it was great on the run to the lake. Seatbelts for 9 when needed. 
Pull the 3rd seat, flip the 2nd and
haul sheets of plywood like a pickup truck. I moved down to a Toyota 4Runner 
and never really found it to be as
useful. I have since gone back up to a fullsized pickup and then on to a 
Supercrew in an effort to again get people
capacity and hauling capacity. I wish the insurance folks would let me swap 
plates from one to another. I wouldn't
drive the truck much except when I went on the road. I don't need it in town 
but I can't have umpteen vehicles so I
stick with the big practical one and pay the price in fuel.

Randy

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Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people camping 
the Suburban is the way to go. You'd
need 2 190D's to do the same job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
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Reasonable mpg on that hog??  What a joke

Wilton

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> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
>
> > Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> > round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
> Nope.
>
> _Big_ fuel tank.
>
> --           Philip
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[MBZ] diesel suburban

[Allen Sawyer]

I have 95 diesel suburban and drive it at 60 miles per hour on trips.  I get 22 
mpg at that speed but it would drop 20% at 65.  With the 40 gallon tank, it 
will easily go more than 800 miles.
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[R A Bennell]

Yeah, Andrew needs to do that too. Then his McMansion garage could have 
sufficient height for the full size lift!

Randy

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You are so out of touch with the new yupster affectations.  You need to 
get out in the real world more.  Maybe move to the burbs, buy a Burb, 
and start living a life of McMansion mirth.

I do kinda like that last one though, I think I sat next to her in 
homeroom in high school.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Ashleigh, Jessica, Shannon, or Delmarva.  (I made up the last one up).
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Correction:  Those girl children would be Dakota, MacKenzie, Taylor, or
>> Kendall
>>
>> --R
>>
>> Wilton Strickland wrote:
>> 
>>> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
>>> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient
>>>   
>> use
>> 
>>> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
>>>   
>> yours."
>> 
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Diesel List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>> Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people
>>> camping the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same
>>> job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
>>> Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
>>> From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Reasonable mpg on that hog?? What a joke
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:


 
> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
>   
 Nope.

 _Big_ fuel tank.

 -- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburbanyesterday/McMansions

[R A Bennell]

I like gables. They add interest to a roofline. 

But then, I like Suburbans too. I had one for 10 years and would have another 
if the fuel prices didnt' deter me. 

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's
Suburbanyesterday/McMansions


"McMansion" reminds me of another question I've been asking while driving
through the countryside for many years, "Where are all these 30 and
35-year-old people getting all the money to build all these huge houses?"
'Been getting some answers on that recently, haven't we?

BTW, notice how the McMansions try to "out-gable" each other?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday


> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they
seem to
> > be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
> > little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient
use
> > of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
yours."
>
> They feel safer in there, I think.  It's like they're taking their
> McMansion with them wherever they go.  "Small blonde hermit crabs of
> the suburbs---next on the Discovery Channel."
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Rich Thomas]

You are so out of touch with the new yupster affectations.  You need to 
get out in the real world more.  Maybe move to the burbs, buy a Burb, 
and start living a life of McMansion mirth.

I do kinda like that last one though, I think I sat next to her in 
homeroom in high school.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Ashleigh, Jessica, Shannon, or Delmarva.  (I made up the last one up).
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Correction:  Those girl children would be Dakota, MacKenzie, Taylor, or
>> Kendall
>>
>> --R
>>
>> Wilton Strickland wrote:
>> 
>>> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
>>> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient
>>>   
>> use
>> 
>>> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
>>>   
>> yours."
>> 
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Diesel List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>> Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people
>>> camping the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same
>>> job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
>>> Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
>>> From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Reasonable mpg on that hog?? What a joke
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:


 
> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
>   
 Nope.

 _Big_ fuel tank.

 -- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[andrew strasfogel]

Ashleigh, Jessica, Shannon, or Delmarva.  (I made up the last one up).

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Rich Thomas <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Correction:  Those girl children would be Dakota, MacKenzie, Taylor, or
> Kendall
>
> --R
>
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
> > What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem
> to
> > be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
> > little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient
> use
> > of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
> yours."
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Diesel List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> >
> >
> > Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people
> > camping the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same
> > job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
> > Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
> > From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Reasonable mpg on that hog?? What a joke
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> >
> >
> >
> >> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> >>> round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
> >>>
> >> Nope.
> >>
> >> _Big_ fuel tank.
> >>
> >> -- Philip
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Re: [MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[andrew strasfogel]

Another example of the value in owning a lift!


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Alex Chamberlain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:54 AM, andrew strasfogel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is the BLACK line that heads toward the firewall and down past the
> back
> > of the valve cover, disappearing into no man's land...
>
> If the modulator will not hold vacuum, it does indeed need to be replaced.
>
> To make sure you're testing the right line, get under the car, pull
> the end of the suspect line off the modulator and hold your finger
> over it or otherwise block it, then test for vacuum again.  It's a
> long piece of hard, brittle plastic in an inhospitable environment, so
> it is "guilty until proven innocent" as far as cracking.
>
> You can then also test the modulator directly, of course, by hooking
> the MityVac right to it.
>
> If the modulator itself is truly bad, and if it's like the one on the
> '87 124 diesel, replacing it is straightforward in theory but
> unpleasant in practice.  On my car, there are two almost inaccessible
> Allen-head screws holding it in.  To see them more clearly so I could
> aim at them with the driver, I used a magnet to temporarily stick a
> dental mirror to the floorpan next to the transmission.
>
> Get the plastic "modulator piston" as well as the modulator unit
> itself beforehand, or at least look at the pictures on Rusty's site so
> you have a better idea what you're trying to R&R.  On my car, I had to
> unscrew the old modulator, wiggle it out, fish the broken piston shaft
> out of its recess with tweezers, wiggle the new piston in without
> breaking it too, and then hold the new modulator in place with one
> hand while installing the mounting screws at an angle with my ball-end
> Allen driver in the other hand.  Tons of fun!
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburbanyesterday/McMansions

[Rick Knoble]

> "Where are all these 30 and
> 35-year-old people getting all the money to build all these huge houses?"
> 'Been getting some answers on that recently, haven't we?

With the bailout of Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae and subprime borrowers, ultimately 
the American taxpayer is who will pay. I say "let 'em lose their houses". I was 
in foreclosure some years ago due to some unwise decisions. The government was 
not lining up to bail me out, I had to do that myself. I say screw 'em. If you 
are stupid enough to buy more house than you can afford and there is a bank 
greedy enough to finance it, let happen what is going to happen.

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:54 AM, andrew strasfogel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the BLACK line that heads toward the firewall and down past the back
> of the valve cover, disappearing into no man's land...

If the modulator will not hold vacuum, it does indeed need to be replaced.

To make sure you're testing the right line, get under the car, pull
the end of the suspect line off the modulator and hold your finger
over it or otherwise block it, then test for vacuum again.  It's a
long piece of hard, brittle plastic in an inhospitable environment, so
it is "guilty until proven innocent" as far as cracking.

You can then also test the modulator directly, of course, by hooking
the MityVac right to it.

If the modulator itself is truly bad, and if it's like the one on the
'87 124 diesel, replacing it is straightforward in theory but
unpleasant in practice.  On my car, there are two almost inaccessible
Allen-head screws holding it in.  To see them more clearly so I could
aim at them with the driver, I used a magnet to temporarily stick a
dental mirror to the floorpan next to the transmission.

Get the plastic "modulator piston" as well as the modulator unit
itself beforehand, or at least look at the pictures on Rusty's site so
you have a better idea what you're trying to R&R.  On my car, I had to
unscrew the old modulator, wiggle it out, fish the broken piston shaft
out of its recess with tweezers, wiggle the new piston in without
breaking it too, and then hold the new modulator in place with one
hand while installing the mounting screws at an angle with my ball-end
Allen driver in the other hand.  Tons of fun!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday/McMansions

[Wilton Strickland]

"McMansion" reminds me of another question I've been asking while driving
through the countryside for many years, "Where are all these 30 and
35-year-old people getting all the money to build all these huge houses?"
'Been getting some answers on that recently, haven't we?

BTW, notice how the McMansions try to "out-gable" each other?

Wilton

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From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday


> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they
seem to
> > be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
> > little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient
use
> > of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n
yours."
>
> They feel safer in there, I think.  It's like they're taking their
> McMansion with them wherever they go.  "Small blonde hermit crabs of
> the suburbs---next on the Discovery Channel."
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Rich Thomas]

Correction:  Those girl children would be Dakota, MacKenzie, Taylor, or 
Kendall

--R

Wilton Strickland wrote:
> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem to
> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient use
> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n yours."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>
>
> Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people
> camping the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same
> job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
> Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
> From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Reasonable mpg on that hog?? What a joke
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
>
>
>   
>> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
>>> round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>>>   
>> Nope.
>>
>> _Big_ fuel tank.
>>
>> -- Philip
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem to
> be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
> little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient use
> of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n yours."

They feel safer in there, I think.  It's like they're taking their
McMansion with them wherever they go.  "Small blonde hermit crabs of
the suburbs---next on the Discovery Channel."

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Wilton Strickland]

What I have been "beholding" around here for many years is that they seem to
be used mainly by 120-pound little blond women to haul little Johnny and
little Janie 2 to 5 mi. to school.  'Doesn't seem to be very efficient use
of 7k to 9k pound vehicle.  'Lot of it seems to be, "Mine's bigger'n yours."

Wilton

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Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people
camping the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same
job, maybe 3 if you had a lot of gear.
Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
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Reasonable mpg on that hog?? What a joke

Wilton

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> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
>
> > Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> > round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
> Nope.
>
> _Big_ fuel tank.
>
> -- Philip
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[MBZ] *&$%#*! parking brake cables

[Curt Raymond]

Tuesday when I left for work my wife called to tell me her cell phone was in my 
190D. I went back and left the car running while I ran inside. When I got back 
on the road the parking brake lever wouldn't go all the way down and the light 
was on...

Yesterday while putting the console back together with the fixed fan switch I 
worked the parking brake 20 or 30 times which seems to have settled it back 
down again.

I hate parking brakes, I never use 'em except once in awhile and then this 
happens. The worse one was last spring when the parking brake on the pickup 
stuck on at camp and we had to drive 5 miles into town with it on. When we got 
to town we had no brakes since the fluid had boiled. That one cost me for all 4 
brakes...

The parking brake on my 240D is hopelessly stuck.

So now I think every Saturday I'm gonna go out and actuate the parking brake a 
couple times on all my vehicles I'm tired of 'em sticking.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT best guinness commercial ever

[Mitch Haley]

Rolf wrote:
> SSFW
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrSSSfYE2dQ

I guess commercials are a bit different elsewhere.

Another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch9a4gzr60

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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Chuck Landenberger]

Some of the wheels only  lifts have an option to support the frame  
and allow wheels off ramp when raised.

Chuck
On Aug 28, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can  
>>> sit.  The max
>>> lift height is 26".
>>
>> Does it lift the chassis or the wheels?
>>
>
> That's the crucial question, from my POV.  Getting the chassis up 26"
> would put the wheels in just about the right place to do a brake job
> while sitting comfortably on a cushion or low stool on the garage
> floor---but if it's a drive-on type lift (i.e. wheels on only) that's
> not going to work.
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
>> lift height is 26".
>
> Does it lift the chassis or the wheels?
>

That's the crucial question, from my POV.  Getting the chassis up 26"
would put the wheels in just about the right place to do a brake job
while sitting comfortably on a cushion or low stool on the garage
floor---but if it's a drive-on type lift (i.e. wheels on only) that's
not going to work.

Alex

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[MBZ] OT best guinness commercial ever

[Rolf]

SSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrSSSfYE2dQ


Brilliant!

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update

[Mitch Haley]

John Robbins wrote:
> If you want pics of the tool I made let me know, and I'll post them to 
> the list.

Tools are good. Let's see what you made.
Seems like for glow plugs Marshall recommended the Snap-On socket with built in 
ball joint swivel.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Curt Raymond]

My Dad reads like crazy, every time I go to my parent's house I have to take a 
couple bags of books. It takes me months to work through them. Then I have to 
give them away, he doesn't want them back. Mostly sci-fi and fantasy stuff.

2x on the Legos. I also had Capcella (sp?) that was neat and a couple other 
sets. Lego I think has lost its focus with all the movie tie-ins. I wonder if 
they were doing poorly as a company before and this has helped?

-Curt

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:12 AM

x2 on the lotsa books.  Not into the sports thing... Lots of bike riding 
though. Some of the stuff I remember most were playing with Lego's, a 
few hot-wheels, and K'Nex like stuff you could assemble.  And books. 
I'm up to a few hundred at the moment, and Dad has at least 2-3x as many 
as I do!

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Lotsa books, but yeah...

> Allan Streibe writes:
> Amen to that.  My kids have more "stuff" than they know what to
do
> with, most of it given to them.  What have they been playing with the
> last two months?  Their bikes, and sticks they find in the yard.
> 
> I think all a kid needs, really (at least boys) are clothes, shoes, a
> bicycle, a bat, a glove, a ball, and a few good books.  I wish I had
> understood that before mine accumulated so much crap.
> 
> Allan
> 





  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[John Robbins]

x2 on the lotsa books.  Not into the sports thing... Lots of bike riding 
though. Some of the stuff I remember most were playing with Lego's, a 
few hot-wheels, and K'Nex like stuff you could assemble.  And books. 
I'm up to a few hundred at the moment, and Dad has at least 2-3x as many 
as I do!

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Lotsa books, but yeah...

> Allan Streibe writes:
> Amen to that.  My kids have more "stuff" than they know what to do
> with, most of it given to them.  What have they been playing with the
> last two months?  Their bikes, and sticks they find in the yard.
> 
> I think all a kid needs, really (at least boys) are clothes, shoes, a
> bicycle, a bat, a glove, a ball, and a few good books.  I wish I had
> understood that before mine accumulated so much crap.
> 
> Allan
> 



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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update

[John Robbins]

OK Don wrote:
> (We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
> think about taking it off again.)

If you make the right tool it is a walk in the park.  On my 2.5T I 
couldn't remove the manifold at all without it.  When I replaced the 
delivery valves a month or so ago, I took the manifold off, replaced the 
delivery valve seals (no more leaks!!) and put the manifold back on in 
~5 hours.  Took me three days to get the manifold off of the '87 300TD 
without the tool.  Haven't had the chance to work on that car lately though.

If you want pics of the tool I made let me know, and I'll post them to 
the list.

John


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Re: [MBZ] Neat

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

> How godawful slow must the GM cars with the 4.3l have been? Thats like an 
> 80hp motor. 3spd automatic too


Huge variance there. Some were absolute pigs, like my Dad's Ciera that got 
30mpg 
  on a good day and did 0-60 in 28 seconds. Others were surprisingly quick. One 
time I was in my Citation and a Ciera diesel came up behind me in the left 
lane, 
moved into the right lane at a red light and looked like he wanted to get the 
jump on me. I gave it half throttle when the light turned green to make sure he 
didn't do something stupid, like jump in front of me and turn left. He got the 
jump on me, got in front of me, and stopped to make a left turn. That move 
would 
have been way beyond the ability of my dad's diesel.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
> lift height is 26".

Does it lift the chassis or the wheels?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[Rich Thomas]

I don't know exactly what is on your car, or exactly what you are 
referring to (my ignorance), but on the son's 84 SD there are a bunch of 
vac hoses going into a little box on top of the valve cover.  In trying 
to get the vac working, after rebuilding the pump, I traced a problem to 
that box.  It has about 6 hoses attached to it, and one of them was not 
attached tightly (though it appeared to be).  I twiddled with all of 
them some, using the mightyvac to see what was going on, traced one 
hose, reset it, and all was then fine.  Not sure why that did anything, 
but there you go.

It seems to have an overly complicated set of hoses, connectors, valves, 
fittings, crossovers, switches, and whatever to move vacuum around here 
and there.  Lots of places to "loose" vacuum.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> My new 1983 300TD turbodiesel consistently clunks when shifting down as I
> apply brakes.  Last night, I ran a vacuum check on the black plastic line
> heading down to the AT modulator valve from the vacuum control valve.  Is
> this supposed to hold vacuum?  The engine was not running when I performed
> the test.
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Curt Raymond]

Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. If you had to haul 6 people camping 
the Suburban is the way to go. You'd need 2 190D's to do the same job, maybe 3 
if you had a lot of gear.
Better mileage would more than be eaten up by wear on 3 vehicles.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:26 -0400
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Reasonable mpg on that hog??  What a joke

Wilton

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> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
> 
> > Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> > round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
> 
> Nope.
> 
> _Big_ fuel tank.
> 
> --           Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Curt Raymond]

Professional quality floor jack and tall jackstands will accomplish the same 
thing and be more useful for other things...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:16 -0400
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
lift height is 26".



On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> It's the difference between lying on your back unable to reach or see
> anything, let alone get decent leverage on a stuck bolt and standing
> up doing the job the easy way.
>
> Someday
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[andrew strasfogel]

This is the BLACK line that heads toward the firewall and down past the back
of the valve cover, disappearing into no man's land...

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I ran a vacuum check on the black plastic line
> > heading down to the AT modulator valve from the vacuum control valve.
> > Is
> > this supposed to hold vacuum?
>
> Yes.  Are you sure you were on the right line?  There's also a
> vent line that goes into the cabin.  It's open (on purpose) at
> the other end.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[Jim Cathey]

> I ran a vacuum check on the black plastic line
> heading down to the AT modulator valve from the vacuum control valve.  
> Is
> this supposed to hold vacuum?

Yes.  Are you sure you were on the right line?  There's also a
vent line that goes into the cabin.  It's open (on purpose) at
the other end.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Neat

[Curt Raymond]

Fueleconomy.gov is an interesting site. Today I found a list of diesel vehicles 
by year 2009-1985
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/diesel.shtml

I'd love to have the opportunity to play with some of these cars... Interesting 
that my 190D is rated 26/35, my 70,000 mile average is alot closer to 38mpg 
with many forays into 40mpg land.

How godawful slow must the GM cars with the 4.3l have been? Thats like an 80hp 
motor. 3spd automatic too I suppose not any worse than a 240D but still, an 
Oldsmobile wagon must have been an absolute pig.

Anybody else see the 240TD on Youtube that somebody took for a track day? 
Serious comedy...

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Jim Cathey]

> Reasonable mpg on that hog??  What a joke

Everybody I know with a burbinator doesn't talk much
about the mileage.  They don't use them as grocery
getters, unless they're going to Costco!  The one guy
with a diesel ended up selling it as they wanted
something newer.  That's the only one that might
tempt me, it's just as well I didn't know it was
going on the market.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] modulator valve test on W123 AT

[andrew strasfogel]

My new 1983 300TD turbodiesel consistently clunks when shifting down as I
apply brakes.  Last night, I ran a vacuum check on the black plastic line
heading down to the AT modulator valve from the vacuum control valve.  Is
this supposed to hold vacuum?  The engine was not running when I performed
the test.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[dave walton]

Sell it and tell her you donated it to starving homeless retarded
autistic bind HIV infected orphans in Detroit.

-Dave Walton

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lets say somebody, your mother-in-law maybe, gave you a Nintendo game for 
> Christmas.
> Lets say it stinks. Like its rated 1.7 out of 5... Lets say its Ninjabread 
> Man for the Wii.
>
> How long after Christmas do you have to wait before selling it to some 
> schmuck?
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Wilton Strickland]

Reasonable mpg on that hog??  What a joke

Wilton

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> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
> 
> > Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
> > round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
> 
> Nope.
> 
> _Big_ fuel tank.
> 
> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Curt Raymond]

So there were no diesels at all from '92-'93?

According to fueleconomy.gov in '91 the diesel Suburban was rated for 13-20mpg, 
the gasser (5.7l) was 11-15. The gasser is probably alot more fun to drive.

Its too bad fueleconomy.gov doesn't list 3/4 ton trucks, I'd love to see what 
the camp's big block Suburban was rated for.

-Curt

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 9:37 AM

The 6.2 was up to 91 when the old body style ended.  In 94 they started
putting the 6.5 turbo in the new body style.

> Back in my Boy Scout days I worked at a summer camp that and a mid-
'80s
> Suburban (old boxy body style) with a 454ci v8, big tires etc. It had been
> a fire department brush truck. The thing was AWESOME, so powerful, so
> comfortable. That said it was SPENDY to drive, maybe got 8mpg, way less if
> you put your foot into it.
>
> If I had a bunch of kids I'd want a Suburban with a 6.2l diesel, I
think
> they made those up to '91ish? Should get maybe 15-17mpg. Not a
powerhouse
> but reasonably thrifty to drive considering folks in New York City would
> consider it a comfortable apartment.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> Had to take six folks on a field trip for med checks. My turn. We always
> take our really nice Suburban that was donated (for the tax write-off) to
> us.
>
> Leather seats and power everything. Big honkin' V-8 engine. Very
smooth
> (for
> a TRUCK) and reasonably quiet ride.
>
> Drove the Quantum down to the group home where the Suburban stays, parked
> the Quantum, fired up the Suburban, drove it back to the office, loaded in
> clients, then drove 30 miles to the med check and then 30 miles back to
> the
> office. That was six half-hour med checks with lots of pauses built in --
> left at 8:45 and returned to my office at 1:30.
>
> Dropped off the clients at the office, returned the Suburban to the group
> home. Crawled back into the Quantum.
>
> Felt like a circus clown in a downsized Mini.
>
> I think I want a Suburban. Wife is extremely in favor of that opinion.
>
> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the round
trip.
> I
> think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
> No, Kaleb, I don't want to buy your Suburban.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[kaleb]

The 6.2 was up to 91 when the old body style ended.  In 94 they started
putting the 6.5 turbo in the new body style.

> Back in my Boy Scout days I worked at a summer camp that and a mid- '80s
> Suburban (old boxy body style) with a 454ci v8, big tires etc. It had been
> a fire department brush truck. The thing was AWESOME, so powerful, so
> comfortable. That said it was SPENDY to drive, maybe got 8mpg, way less if
> you put your foot into it.
>
> If I had a bunch of kids I'd want a Suburban with a 6.2l diesel, I think
> they made those up to '91ish? Should get maybe 15-17mpg. Not a powerhouse
> but reasonably thrifty to drive considering folks in New York City would
> consider it a comfortable apartment.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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>
> Had to take six folks on a field trip for med checks. My turn. We always
> take our really nice Suburban that was donated (for the tax write-off) to
> us.
>
> Leather seats and power everything. Big honkin' V-8 engine. Very smooth
> (for
> a TRUCK) and reasonably quiet ride.
>
> Drove the Quantum down to the group home where the Suburban stays, parked
> the Quantum, fired up the Suburban, drove it back to the office, loaded in
> clients, then drove 30 miles to the med check and then 30 miles back to
> the
> office. That was six half-hour med checks with lots of pauses built in --
> left at 8:45 and returned to my office at 1:30.
>
> Dropped off the clients at the office, returned the Suburban to the group
> home. Crawled back into the Quantum.
>
> Felt like a circus clown in a downsized Mini.
>
> I think I want a Suburban. Wife is extremely in favor of that opinion.
>
> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the round trip.
> I
> think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
> No, Kaleb, I don't want to buy your Suburban.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[kaleb]

Well, its time to pass the Fairtax

> My business is s so small it may not be worth the added hassle this ruling
> will cause.   What started as something to occupy my time following
> becoming
> disabled is effective at keeping me busy and organized - but this will not
> be a cost effective use of my time.
>
> I always report all income and pay my share of taxes so I'm not sure why
> this is necessary - I always assumed the merchant account provider
> provided
> details of my activity to the IRS already so me trying to hide income
> would
> be dumb.  Now I hear they weren't required to do this already is quite a
> surprise.  A big surprise - not that I would have operated differently up
> to
> now.
>
> Guess I'll wait to see how this all works out before deciding to keep  the
> business going.
>
> I wonder how this affects CraigsList and local "Trading Post" type of
> sales?
> Then's there's flea markets and yard sales - all ways to move money
> around.
> IMHO the  IRS should be content with employer related withholding and
> leave
> small time entreprenours alone..
>
> LarryT
> 91 300D 2.5t
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "a'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Cc: "'Steve Clingman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:29 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)
>
>
>>A recent IRS ruling will require all CC processors (merchant accounts) to
>> report revenue to the IRS. And if your CC merchant account is setup with
>> a
>> SS# instead of a FEIN#, your processor will be required to withhold
>> income
>> tax against the revenue.
>>
>>
>>
>> The ruling will affect all PayPal accounts that are setup to accept
>> credit
>> cards since the front end (the CC processing part of PayPal) is
>> classified
>> as a merchant account. I don’t know how PayPal will handle accounts that
>> do
>> not process credit cards.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was wondering how the IRS was going to get their arms around the cash
>> flowing through eBay and now I know. I’m sure that this ruling will put
>> a
>> few nails in eBay’s coffin or at least it will slow them down a little.
>>
>>
>>
>> I gave up on eBay earlier this year because I could not compete with
>> other,
>> smaller beer equipment resellers who I’m convinced are not paying any
>> income
>> tax on their sales. From my point of view, the ruling will help to level
>> the
>> playing field.
>>
>>
>>
>> The ruling goes into affect in 2009 or 2010 (don’t remember which).
>>
>>
>>
>> Cynthia,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Hargrave
>>
>> HYPERLINK "http://www.kegkits.com"www.kegkits.com
>>
>> 256-656-1924
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[kaleb]

Here it would cost about 142.38 to fill the tank on a sububurban.  You can
go about 546 miles on a tank.

> Yep, you only have to fill up every 2 weeks and it only costs $150.00 -
> $180.00 to "fill it up".
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
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>
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>
> It seems than at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500, Wonko wrote:
>
>> Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the
>> round trip. I think this one might get reasonable mpg.
>
> Nope.
>
> _Big_ fuel tank.
>
> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[kaleb]

HAHAHAHAHAHA


> Yes, I am. Life is good being as such.
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Next thing, you really are naive.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[andrew strasfogel]

No standing, unless you have a pit in your garage, but you can sit.  The max
lift height is 26".



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> It's the difference between lying on your back unable to reach or see
> anything, let alone get decent leverage on a stuck bolt and standing
> up doing the job the easy way.
>
> Someday
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Curt Raymond]

I'm Uncle bookworm... Never a family favorite doing that.

Of course now that they're a little bit older I'm Uncle "Sure you can drive the 
car, don't tell your mother though" which makes me the ULTIMATE favorite.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:16:05 -0500
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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For my grandkid's gifts, I set up a credit union savings account for each, 
stoked it every month and boosted it on birthdays and Christmas.  Never gave 
a gift.

I am still the family bad guy because I didn't give them something to have 
fun with.  In the room of one of these kids, they had actually hung a net 
from the ceiling in one corner for toy storage because there was not room to 
walk.

Harry


  
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Re: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday

[Curt Raymond]

Back in my Boy Scout days I worked at a summer camp that and a mid- '80s 
Suburban (old boxy body style) with a 454ci v8, big tires etc. It had been a 
fire department brush truck. The thing was AWESOME, so powerful, so 
comfortable. That said it was SPENDY to drive, maybe got 8mpg, way less if you 
put your foot into it.

If I had a bunch of kids I'd want a Suburban with a 6.2l diesel, I think they 
made those up to '91ish? Should get maybe 15-17mpg. Not a powerhouse but 
reasonably thrifty to drive considering folks in New York City would consider 
it a comfortable apartment.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:39:34 -0500
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Subject: [MBZ] Had / got to drive the company's Suburban yesterday
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Had to take six folks on a field trip for med checks. My turn. We always
take our really nice Suburban that was donated (for the tax write-off) to
us.

Leather seats and power everything. Big honkin' V-8 engine. Very smooth (for
a TRUCK) and reasonably quiet ride.

Drove the Quantum down to the group home where the Suburban stays, parked
the Quantum, fired up the Suburban, drove it back to the office, loaded in
clients, then drove 30 miles to the med check and then 30 miles back to the
office. That was six half-hour med checks with lots of pauses built in --
left at 8:45 and returned to my office at 1:30.

Dropped off the clients at the office, returned the Suburban to the group
home. Crawled back into the Quantum.

Felt like a circus clown in a downsized Mini.

I think I want a Suburban. Wife is extremely in favor of that opinion.

Best part is that the fuel gauge didn't move at all during the round trip. I
think this one might get reasonable mpg.

No, Kaleb, I don't want to buy your Suburban.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Curt Raymond]

I figured.

Its sold, $10 to a coworker. My office has an Outlook folder "For Sale and 
Wanted". I've sold several things on there.

Officially the game is "on loan" to Justin who sits near me

-Curt

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:24 -0400
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Yes.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question


>That was the rule when I was a kid but now I hate having stuff cluttering
up the place, and I hate throwing stuff away.
>Is it worse to throw it away than to sell it?
>-Curt

http://www.freecycle.org/

Look for a Yahoo group near you...

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2?
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'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] 201 fan control?

[Curt Raymond]

So you had the opposite failure that I had. On mine the limiting notch in the 
rocker broke. I flipped the rocker over, cut a new limiting notch and 
reassembled. I installed yesterday and this morning it worked fine.

A really smart engineer would have designed the rockers so they were symetrical 
in that plane (perpendicular to the axle I mean) so you could flip them over 
and have them work without modification.

-Curt

--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 fan control?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:27 PM

> Anybody got a 201 fan control box laying around?

I've got one I was going to put back on eBay (from whence
I got it).  I bought it for ours, but was able to repair
the broken flipper inside our fan switch.

> I heard a snap and I couldn't turn it on anymore.
> Last night I took the box apart. There are 3 levers inside that 
> control the thing, one had broken where it stops from flipping upside 
> down. I tried epoxying it but couldn't get anything strong enough.

 From my log:

Pulling out the upper console piece it was time to confront the jammed
blower switch.  I had bought a used replacement on eBay, but since the
broken one was nicely held together with screws I thought I'd have a
look inside first before just replacing it.  There are three plastic
rockers inside driving spring-loaded electrical contacts, with a
spring-loaded roller wheel that travels along the rockers.  The first
rocker had spun around on its post allowing the roller wheel to wedge
itself down into the gap next to the rocker.  Careful examination
showed that the reason this happened was that a little plastic
protrusion on the rocker's axle post that mates with a travel-limiting
hole in the rocker had broken off, allowing for more rotation of the
rocker than was intended, and opening up a big gap for the roller to
drop into.  This is a weak bit of design there, and the reason that #1
rocker is more susceptible to breaking off the pin is that there is
only the one rocker supporting the force from the roller, everywhere
else two rockers (and limit pins) share the load.  To try to fix this
I used a small drill to drill through the shell right next to the axle
where the nub had broken off, then I glued a metal brad into that hole
to serve as a replacement nub, with a reinforcing wire wrapped around
the brad and bent around a corner and screwed into a handy hole.  (I
left the brad long so that on the back side there was plenty of
protrusion for the glue [Shoe Goo of course!]  to grip to lock it in
position.)  I then set it aside to dry.

Later I found that my reinforcing screw was shorting things out,
so I removed it.  It's been working since June 11, 2006.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Jim Cathey]

> I paid $2 for mine, and maybe 30 cents worth of propane for the
> torch to heat them and bend them.

You can spend more on acetylene and be done in half the time!
And, if they end up too short as mine did, you can also weld
extension wrenches on the handle ends.  So I figure mine were
more like $5.

My wife (!) borrowed my wrenches to take to a fellow pit orchestra
member with a 240D.  So far they haven't made it back.  I'm not
worried.  Yet.  It's not the $5 but the time to make them that
I'm concerned about.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[Jim Cathey]

> I wonder how this affects CraigsList and local "Trading Post" type of 
> sales?

Not much, I'd say.  CL mostly isn't involved in the payment
end at all.  Not sure about their commercial side whereby the
infrastructure is paid for.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Rich Thomas]

I paid $2 for mine, and maybe 30 cents worth of propane for the torch to 
heat them and bend them.

--R

Kevin Kraly wrote:
> Move, and say it got lost in the move.
>
> Oh, not that again!  It appears that I've LOST my valve adjustment wrenches 
> in this last move.  I'm hoping and praying that they're in the storage shed 
> (the place where everything goes that didn't quite fit).  I sure don't want 
> to pay another $120 if I don't have to!
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)

[LarryT]

My business is s so small it may not be worth the added hassle this ruling 
will cause.   What started as something to occupy my time following becoming 
disabled is effective at keeping me busy and organized - but this will not 
be a cost effective use of my time.

I always report all income and pay my share of taxes so I'm not sure why 
this is necessary - I always assumed the merchant account provider provided 
details of my activity to the IRS already so me trying to hide income would 
be dumb.  Now I hear they weren't required to do this already is quite a 
surprise.  A big surprise - not that I would have operated differently up to 
now.

Guess I'll wait to see how this all works out before deciding to keep  the 
business going.

I wonder how this affects CraigsList and local "Trading Post" type of sales? 
Then's there's flea markets and yard sales - all ways to move money around. 
IMHO the  IRS should be content with employer related withholding and leave 
small time entreprenours alone..

LarryT
91 300D 2.5t

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From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "a'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Cc: "'Steve Clingman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Recent IRS Ruling (no joke)


>A recent IRS ruling will require all CC processors (merchant accounts) to
> report revenue to the IRS. And if your CC merchant account is setup with a
> SS# instead of a FEIN#, your processor will be required to withhold income
> tax against the revenue.
>
>
>
> The ruling will affect all PayPal accounts that are setup to accept credit
> cards since the front end (the CC processing part of PayPal) is classified
> as a merchant account. I don’t know how PayPal will handle accounts that 
> do
> not process credit cards.
>
>
>
> I was wondering how the IRS was going to get their arms around the cash
> flowing through eBay and now I know. I’m sure that this ruling will put a
> few nails in eBay’s coffin or at least it will slow them down a little.
>
>
>
> I gave up on eBay earlier this year because I could not compete with 
> other,
> smaller beer equipment resellers who I’m convinced are not paying any 
> income
> tax on their sales. From my point of view, the ruling will help to level 
> the
> playing field.
>
>
>
> The ruling goes into affect in 2009 or 2010 (don’t remember which).
>
>
>
> Cynthia,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophical question

[Kevin Kraly]

Move, and say it got lost in the move.

Oh, not that again!  It appears that I've LOST my valve adjustment wrenches 
in this last move.  I'm hoping and praying that they're in the storage shed 
(the place where everything goes that didn't quite fit).  I sure don't want 
to pay another $120 if I don't have to!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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