Re: [MBZ] this is not about politics, its about voting
Mitch wrote: I realized that if I want to be part of the solution I have to get off my duff and volunteer to work the polls in 2010. It'll do me good to learn how to sit in a crowded room for an entire day without voicing a single political opinion. Just be sure to bring along your knitting so you fit in with the ladies. *smile* My dad has worked at the poles. He said it can be mighty boring. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D brake/bearing question
When I was a young lad, my mentor told me that wheel bearings should be serviced by repacking, which did not mean Cleaning perfectly good grease out of them, thereby risking infiltration of contamination. I put a healthy table spoon of clean bearing grease in my left palm, hook the finger of my right hand thru the bearing and force it in. If I see dirt, chips or water come out of the bearing, simply toss it out. It's cooked. Pete -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure, as long as you are very careful not to let any dirt get in the bearings or grease. It is done all the time. I'm convinced 90% of the bearing repacks are charged for but never done. Unless you do it yourself! Then you KNOW it was done, or in this case, not done yet. At 08:28 PM 11/4/2008, you wrote: Gang, Marshall would kill me for even thinking this but here goes. Gotta get the 240D back on the road to buy time for the 190D. To do that I gotta get new front rotors on 'er. I've never done bearings before and while I've got the proper grease on order its not here yet and I'm not sure they'll make it this week which is pretty much my deadline, I need this car for going to work next week. So I could use Mobil 1 as a replacement but the problem is I don't know how much grease to use, did I mention I've never done this before? So I'm wondering can I just carefully pull the outer bearing, slide the hub/rotor off, swap rotors, carefully slide the hub/rotor back on, slip the outer bearing back in and call it good enough for a week? Next week when I've got the grease I'll go back and replace properly but for now... I've had one of the dust caps off and the grease is all green and nice looking. I don't exactly remember the last time I had the bearings done, probably 20,000 miles ago. They'd made noise before that and IIRC he replaced the bearings when he greased them. Anyway I'll send an email to make sure I understand the full replacement process in a sec, just wanted to try an idea. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 How much would towing affect that? I'm thinking if I buy the '97 Burb I'm looking at, I'll be towing a heavy load only about 20% of the time if that... mostly it'll be hauling plywood, etc. Wonder if there's other things I could do to improve mileage---different tires? I read on the towing forums that C-rated tires at very high pressure are recommended for 3/4 ton trucks but I have more than one set of wheels with a full-size Chevy bolt pattern, so I could swap around and experiment... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Allan Streib wrote: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My local dealer doubles the MB list price on parts --- Very typical for any shop. Allan -- 1983 300D It is true, that *most* shops will charge dealer list pricing for an OEM or aftermarket part. This means you are paying full retail dealer list price, the price you should be paying for a genuine part from MB, for an OEM or even lesser quality part. Is this ethical? In my eyes, no. If you are paying list or list+, you should at least be getting the genuine article with a Star on it. Dealers can charge just about whatever they want for their parts. One of the dealers local to me is famous for marking up parts 30% and more over list. At least, those folks are getting a genuine Mercedes part. In my shop, I do things a bit different than the norm. I have an arrangement with the MB Classic Center; they are my main parts supplier. They sell to me at a rate that enables me to charge the customer straight MB list pricing for genuine parts. I give the customer the choice of genuine or OEM parts. If they choose genuine, they pay straight MB list price. With OEM parts, my purchase price is almost always significantly less than MB genuine. In those cases, the customer pays less than MB list price. Charging full MB list price for an OEM part is greedy in my opinion and fosters the stigma that is often associated with independent repair shops. Fair is fair, one should always get what they pay for. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is not about politics, its about voting
No I spent from 3:15 to 10:00 counting absentee ballots. Do I get extra credit? On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless of your views on the candidates, I think of myself as enough of a patriot that I get a warm fuzzy feeling when thinking about the fact that this years turnout is likely the be the largest in history. That is a good thing. I hope everyone knows what a privilege we have in this country to be able to choose our representatives. People in many countries never get the chance to cast a real vote. Thank you to all of our nation's veterans who have sacrificed so much throughout our history to defend this great country! I am having an election night watch party tonight. We might play electoral bingo and we also have maps of the country. Each participant will make their prediction for red/blue states and the electoral college totals. Whoever wins gets a prize! Should be fun. Donald H. Snook Proud to have voted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bill back in hosp, was Home again - but none the wiser.
I concur with Harry. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. Mike - Original Message - From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bill back in hosp, was Home again - but none the wiser. Bill and Sue continue on my prayer list. Thanks for keeping us informed Sue. God Bless Harry . FYI: Bill went back to the hospital this afternoon. Scheduled for a cardiac cath tomorrow afternoon...sue ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
M/B and OEM parts are very often one and the same. A Bilstein Model XYZ shock is the same from a FLAPs or the dealers, No? Pete -- Original message -- From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Allan Streib wrote: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My local dealer doubles the MB list price on parts --- Very typical for any shop. Allan -- 1983 300D It is true, that *most* shops will charge dealer list pricing for an OEM or aftermarket part. This means you are paying full retail dealer list price, the price you should be paying for a genuine part from MB, for an OEM or even lesser quality part. Is this ethical? In my eyes, no. If you are paying list or list+, you should at least be getting the genuine article with a Star on it. Dealers can charge just about whatever they want for their parts. One of the dealers local to me is famous for marking up parts 30% and more over list. At least, those folks are getting a genuine Mercedes part. In my shop, I do things a bit different than the norm. I have an arrangement with the MB Classic Center; they are my main parts supplier. They sell to me at a rate that enables me to charge the customer straight MB list pricing for genuine parts. I give the customer the choice of genuine or OEM parts. If they choose genuine, they pay straight MB list price. With OEM parts, my purchase price is almost always significantly less than MB genuine. In those cases, the customer pays less than MB list price. Charging full MB list price for an OEM part is greedy in my opinion and fosters the stigma that is often associated with independent repair shops. Fair is fair, one should always get what they pay for. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
Load range E pumped up to their max pressure of 80psi seem to yield the best mpg for me. I get 20 with my 6.2diesel crewcab chevy. Mike -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43:49 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 How much would towing affect that? I'm thinking if I buy the '97 Burb I'm looking at, I'll be towing a heavy load only about 20% of the time if that... mostly it'll be hauling plywood, etc. Wonder if there's other things I could do to improve mileage---different tires? I read on the towing forums that C-rated tires at very high pressure are recommended for 3/4 ton trucks but I have more than one set of wheels with a full-size Chevy bolt pattern, so I could swap around and experiment... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Load range E pumped up to their max pressure of 80psi seem to yield the best mpg for me. I get 20 with my 6.2diesel crewcab chevy. Woah!! Isn't that a touch on the dangerous side for hydroplaning? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M/B and OEM parts are very often one and the same. A Bilstein Model XYZ shock is the same from a FLAPs or the dealers, No? If Matt is restoring classics, and if the dealer shock has a star on it, I'd say not the same thing. I was surprised that the ACDelco gas shocks for my Olds were about $25 each from a mail order Chevy dealer, and the official GM shock, probably made by Delco, was over $90 from the same source. The shocks came in Delco boxes with a GM part number stuck on them. The $90 shocks probably would have had GM part number stamped in them, and no ACDELCO sticker on the shocks. Fortunately I have no plans to have the Achieva scored by concours judges. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT this is not about politics, its about voting the 'right' way
Serve it up to the two listers who predicted 2 and 10 point margins of victory for McCain because his selection of Palin was a stroke of genius. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And you know what, even the stupid have the right to vote..fancy that. Funny thing that democratic process. As a side note, in Oztralia it is compulsory to vote, with the penalty of a fine being the stick. Hendrik who is busy cooking humble pie for some of the listers to enjoy shortly LarryT wrote: are you advocating voting with*out* any thought? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] this is not about politics, its about voting And who are you to arbitrate this point? On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I get a warm fuzzy feeling when thinking about the fact that this years turnout is likely the be the largest in history. I don't. Too many people vote with too little thought. I wish 80% of them would just stay home. Voting is not a duty, the duty is to make informed choices when you choose to vote. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
John Robbins wrote: Woah!! Isn't that a touch on the dangerous side for hydroplaning? Do you know how hard it is to plane a tire with 80-90PSI in it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
Mitch Haley wrote: Do you know how hard it is to plane a tire with 80-90PSI in it? No... my understanding was that the higher the PSI the easier it was to hydroplane. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love this color
I like the interior color but the exterior is too much like sage green. I prefer the darker shades, e.g. moss green or even forest green. One exception is thistle green, which looks stunnng on a 450SL C. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1983-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Turbo-4-Door-Sedan-Rare-Green_W0QQitemZ200270833719QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT this is not about politics, its about voting the 'right' way
andrew strasfogel wrote: Serve it up to the two listers who predicted 2 and 10 point margins of victory for McCain because his selection of Palin was a stroke of genius. Who? I thought Palin was a great choice, she gave the conservatives a reason to vote for McLame instead of Barr, but I don't recall ever saying that I expected McLame to beat Osama. Mitch. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: obamaflag.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1623 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081105/9c4fd714/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT this is not about politics, its about voting the 'right' way
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Serve it up to the two listers who predicted 2 and 10 point margins of victory for McCain because his selection of Palin was a stroke of genius. Palin is probably the only thing that kept the popular vote margin in single digits. I was not surprised by the results. Republicans have got to take their primary process more seriously if they want to field a candidate who can win. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M/B and OEM parts are very often one and the same. A Bilstein Model XYZ shock is the same from a FLAPs or the dealers, No? Pete This is quite the can of worms to open. If you want to know the truth for yourself, perform your own controlled experiments. In my experience the answer is no. To each his own. Out of respect to the sponsors of this list, I will say no more on this matter. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
John Robbins wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Do you know how hard it is to plane a tire with 80-90PSI in it? No... my understanding was that the higher the PSI the easier it was to hydroplane. Here's some high speed Michelin photos at 35spi, 30psi, and 25psi. TireRack presents it as an underinflation problem, but I bet you could get near identical results at 45psi, 40psi, and 35psi at a higher speed. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
I think Rusty can get the parts with the stars if you really want them .. no? (Somehow the Dr. Seuss Star-Bellied Sneetch story is suddenly running through my head...) Allan Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M/B and OEM parts are very often one and the same. A Bilstein Model XYZ shock is the same from a FLAPs or the dealers, No? Pete This is quite the can of worms to open. If you want to know the truth for yourself, perform your own controlled experiments. In my experience the answer is no. To each his own. Out of respect to the sponsors of this list, I will say no more on this matter. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w115 A/C issue figured out, and parts
Oh, *lovely*. I was hoping it was just air-filled, because I'm pretty sure I can manage to silver-solder a cap on it, since I've done my share of delicate soldering. But charging it with Freon or the like, is not in my skill set. I guess a nice non-fragile easy-to-work-with *thermocouple* would have been too much to ask from Stuttgart... Thanks for the information, Stuart S. Message: 6 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:09:30 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) w115 A/C issue figured out, and parts request in two parts. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You know how the A/C controller knob has a weird flexible metal probe that goes into the airbox? Yep. Expensive little thermostat you've got there. Freon-filled. Very delicate, treat it like the several hundred dollar item that it is, assuming you can still even get one. Is that probe *important* to the functioning of the system? Can I ideally just ignore its absence? Nope, it's vital. With no pressure in it you will never get the compressor running. I recharged one once, it wasn't easy and I don't think it ever did turn out right. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlog.html#5May2005 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
Allan Streib wrote: I think Rusty can get the parts with the stars if you really want them .. no? Yep. You just have to request it. Also, you'll pay shipping regardless of order amount. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT this is not about politics, its about voting the 'right' way
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:13 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serve it up to the two listers who predicted 2 and 10 point margins of victory for McCain because his selection of Palin was a stroke of genius. I feel like I need to join Banned just to have a place to express exactly how I feel about the election. I note there are already plenty of Cafepress pages selling Don't Blame Me - I Voted For McCain bumper stickers. Think I'll make some saying Jindal/Rice 2012. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Laugh for the day
AIG employees stage a protest by blockading the entrance to the firm's Headquarters: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l34/dirfie/AIGprotest.jpg?t=1225901908 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this out of line?
John Robbins wrote: Yep. You just have to request it. Also, you'll pay shipping regardless of order amount. The one thing I bought from Rusty that came in a baggie with the blue star on it was a hand primer pump, and it came Fedex Overnight. (several years ago) I don't know what MBUSA pays for Fedex, but if I had paid Fedex's retail for overnight shipping it would have cost more than I paid for the part. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
Does the W115/OM617 have the manual primer pump? Do you feel fuel pushing through the pressure relief valve when you work the pump? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
Better to risk hydroplaning (Indicating your going too fast) that to blow out an under inflated and thereby overloaded tyre. Pete -- Original message -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Load range E pumped up to their max pressure of 80psi seem to yield the best mpg for me. I get 20 with my 6.2diesel crewcab chevy. Woah!! Isn't that a touch on the dangerous side for hydroplaning? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Carfax please
Sure do appreciate this if available. 4JGAB54E21A264913 Thanks in advance, John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. Pete -- Original message -- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D front brake replacement proceedure
The car sat, the rotors are toast... I don't understand the last bit, golf cart? -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:51:12 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D front brake replacement proceedure To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Why are you pulling the rotors and bearings? Why not do the brake job and drive it until the proper grease arrives? Mean while get more info on the amount of grease and the proper tools to set the bearings. Maybe I missed something. BTW, if you do the work the way you describe how you are going to do it, I would love for you to work on any of my cars. But not my golf cart, sorry. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
John Freer wrote: 4JGAB54E21A264913 4JGA is a USA made MBZ? I don't understand VIN mfg/country of origin codes any more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better to risk hydroplaning (Indicating your going too fast) that to blow out an under inflated and thereby overloaded tyre. He was talking about 80PSI I don't think you're going to have much of a problem with under-inflation above 30psi. MB recommends 28psi. Personally, I would prefer a blowout to hydroplaning. The rear tires on the CDI are getting close to the wear markers, and I didn't find going down the interstate, sideways, at 70mph to be much fun. It wasn't even raining at the time, and I've driven faster during worse conditions on the same highway without any problems... many times. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
It's an ML which is made in Alabama in the good ole 'USA! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: 4JGAB54E21A264913 4JGA is a USA made MBZ? I don't understand VIN mfg/country of origin codes any more. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
I didn't invent this term but; Bt Wrong. Tyres on that truck have a max rating of about 85psi to carry it's fully rated load. Failure to properly inflate them will drastically reduce their carrying capacity. And I don't give a damn what Mercedes recommends for his Suburban. Pete -- Original message -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better to risk hydroplaning (Indicating your going too fast) that to blow out an under inflated and thereby overloaded tyre. He was talking about 80PSI I don't think you're going to have much of a problem with under-inflation above 30psi. MB recommends 28psi. Personally, I would prefer a blowout to hydroplaning. The rear tires on the CDI are getting close to the wear markers, and I didn't find going down the interstate, sideways, at 70mph to be much fun. It wasn't even raining at the time, and I've driven faster during worse conditions on the same highway without any problems... many times. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. If the toaster wires get hot, and he put new glow plugs in anyway with no improvement, I wonder if the valves are tight and need adjusting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
John Freer wrote: It's an ML which is made in Alabama in the good ole 'USA! I understood what it was and where it came from (2001 ML320) but still don't understand why the VIN starts with 4JGA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
I don't know the specifics but that's the way all ML's are set up. Maybe MB is ashamed? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: It's an ML which is made in Alabama in the good ole 'USA! I understood what it was and where it came from (2001 ML320) but still don't understand why the VIN starts with 4JGA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bill back in hosp.
Tell Bill to hang in there. Hopefully they'll find his problem and fix it. Gerry -- I concur with Harry. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. Mike Bill and Sue continue on my prayer list. Thanks for keeping us informed Sue. God Bless Harry FYI: Bill went back to the hospital this afternoon. Scheduled for a cardiac cath tomorrow afternoon...sue ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Mitch Haley wrote: John Freer wrote: 4JGAB54E21A264913 4JGA is a USA made MBZ? I don't understand VIN mfg/country of origin codes any more. Me either. A built-in-South Africa C Class has a W VIN, and no one seems able to explain it. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w115 A/C issue figured out, and parts
In 1968, probably too much to ask. Remember, there is no relay for the compressor clutch coil, the current goes through the switch. Very typical of such systems in those days, and up to the mid 70's on German cars (Audi Fox for instance). Works the same was as the temperature and oil pressure gauges, although you have an electric temp gauge. Peter -Original Message- From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 5, 2008 11:21 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] w115 A/C issue figured out, and parts Oh, *lovely*. I was hoping it was just air-filled, because I'm pretty sure I can manage to silver-solder a cap on it, since I've done my share of delicate soldering. But charging it with Freon or the like, is not in my skill set. I guess a nice non-fragile easy-to-work-with *thermocouple* would have been too much to ask from Stuttgart... Thanks for the information, Stuart S. Message: 6 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:09:30 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) w115 A/C issue figured out,and parts request in two parts. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You know how the A/C controller knob has a weird flexible metal probe that goes into the airbox? Yep. Expensive little thermostat you've got there. Freon-filled. Very delicate, treat it like the several hundred dollar item that it is, assuming you can still even get one. Is that probe *important* to the functioning of the system? Can I ideally just ignore its absence? Nope, it's vital. With no pressure in it you will never get the compressor running. I recharged one once, it wasn't easy and I don't think it ever did turn out right. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlog.html#5May2005 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Tom Savage wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: John Freer wrote: 4JGAB54E21A264913 4JGA is a USA made MBZ? I don't understand VIN mfg/country of origin codes any more. Me either. A built-in-South Africa C Class has a W VIN, and no one seems able to explain it. I thought the WDB VINs were for Westgermany, Daimler Benz, so W from SA puzzles me too. Now that Deutchland has been reunited and West Germany is no more, what do the German cars start with, a D? Does the W now mean South Africa? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
I have no doubt that the valves should be adjusted, but does it not seem odd that it started and ran fine on Saturday evening and then wouldn'tt start 36 hours later? The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. I also plugged in the block heater for a bit on Monday and tried it again without any improvement. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. If the toaster wires get hot, and he put new glow plugs in anyway with no improvement, I wonder if the valves are tight and need adjusting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
I could try that. I will also try plugging in the block heater again for a longer time and see if warming it up helps. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. Pete -- Original message -- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
There is a primer of some sort on the fuel filter housing I think but I have never used it so not sure what it should do or feel like. May pull and replace the filter so should get an opportunity to check it out. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start Does the W115/OM617 have the manual primer pump? Do you feel fuel pushing through the pressure relief valve when you work the pump? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 250S Boston
Hi, All. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/906679418.html Fred Moir Lynn MA Not Mine! (Dammit!) No Affilliation etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
R A Bennell wrote: The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. The valves get tighter when cold, so if that was the problem I wouldn't have expected it to start on Saturday. If your IP is sucking a bit of air but still pumping some fuel through the injectors, you can get white smoke when running, and I'd think it would be harder to start. Do you have a clear inline fuel filter under the hood? Does it have air or black crap in it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '77-'79 450SL left side exhaust manifold EGR pipe
Some of you may remember my earlier quest and the fact that an unscrupulous recycler sold me a 1980 manifold which I cannot use, as this is when M--B went to an electronic EGR system. Another fellow has indicated that he has the correct '77-'79 450SL left side exhaust manifold EGR pipe but seems somewhat difficilt to deal with (without going into too much detail). So if anyone out there knows of a local recycler and could inquire if these parts are available and get back to me off-list, it would be greatly appreciated. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't invent this term but; Bt Wrong. Tyres on that truck have a max rating of about 85psi to carry it's fully rated load. Failure to properly inflate them will drastically reduce their carrying capacity. Easy now! I didn't realize truck tires were *that* different from car tires. I knew semi-truck tires were, but not plain old truck tires. Are we talking about 3/4 and 1 tons? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
There is no clear inline filter. I bought some with the intention to install but have not done so. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start R A Bennell wrote: The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. The valves get tighter when cold, so if that was the problem I wouldn't have expected it to start on Saturday. If your IP is sucking a bit of air but still pumping some fuel through the injectors, you can get white smoke when running, and I'd think it would be harder to start. Do you have a clear inline fuel filter under the hood? Does it have air or black crap in it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D front brake replacement proceedure
Sorry Curt A weak attempt to be cute, should have put on a smiley face. However, I like your deep, think ahead attitude and I was sincere about having you work on my cars anytime. Now I understand about the rotors. Harry The car sat, the rotors are toast... I don't understand the last bit, golf cart? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
Robert Rentfro wrote: Yes you did...I guess time passes slowly when you have a non running car sitting in the garage. Do you still have the Acura? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
Didn't mean to be rude. Topic says Suburban 454, coulds be 1/2, 3/4 or 1 ton. Got to careful with truck tires, lotsa folks under inflate and make very dangerous rides. I run 80psi in my F250, rides hard! Doesn't shrug at #4,000 in the back. Pete -- Original message -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't invent this term but; Bt Wrong. Tyres on that truck have a max rating of about 85psi to carry it's fully rated load. Failure to properly inflate them will drastically reduce their carrying capacity. Easy now! I didn't realize truck tires were *that* different from car tires. I knew semi-truck tires were, but not plain old truck tires. Are we talking about 3/4 and 1 tons? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CLASSIC 1968 Mercedes 250S seized engine - $300 (obo Boxborough, MA)
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Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
Randy, would it kill you to adjust the valves? This is a fun job if you know what you're doing. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no clear inline filter. I bought some with the intention to install but have not done so. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start R A Bennell wrote: The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. The valves get tighter when cold, so if that was the problem I wouldn't have expected it to start on Saturday. If your IP is sucking a bit of air but still pumping some fuel through the injectors, you can get white smoke when running, and I'd think it would be harder to start. Do you have a clear inline fuel filter under the hood? Does it have air or black crap in it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
probalby wouldnt hurt it much towing. Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 How much would towing affect that? I'm thinking if I buy the '97 Burb I'm looking at, I'll be towing a heavy load only about 20% of the time if that... mostly it'll be hauling plywood, etc. Wonder if there's other things I could do to improve mileage---different tires? I read on the towing forums that C-rated tires at very high pressure are recommended for 3/4 ton trucks but I have more than one set of wheels with a full-size Chevy bolt pattern, so I could swap around and experiment... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CLASSIC 1968 Mercedes 250S seized engine - $300 (obo Boxborough, MA)
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Re: [MBZ] OT this is not about politics, its about voting the 'right' way
yea, you should join banned, then you can tell us how you really feel. Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:13 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serve it up to the two listers who predicted 2 and 10 point margins of victory for McCain because his selection of Palin was a stroke of genius. I feel like I need to join Banned just to have a place to express exactly how I feel about the election. I note there are already plenty of Cafepress pages selling Don't Blame Me - I Voted For McCain bumper stickers. Think I'll make some saying Jindal/Rice 2012. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
AutoCheck user log out: home | buyback registration | about us | contact us | help check existing report [VIN History] 4JGAB54E21A264913 or enter a new VIN Print options: Report will print: With section details shown With section details hidden Summary Report Run Date: 2008-11-05 16:17:34.217 EST The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: 4JGAB54E21A264913 Year: 2001 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: M Class ML320 Style/Body: SUV / Utility 4D Class: CUV - Premium Engine: 3.2L V6 EFI / SMPI Country of Assembly: United States Vehicle Age: 7 year(s) Calculated Owners: 3 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 85,144 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 90 91-93 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 3 05/27/2001 40,251 06/17/2005 40,367 06/24/2005 40,367 07/05/2005 85,144 05/18/2007 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s) No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record Emission/safety inspection record(s) Loan/Lien record(s) No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 2008-11-05 16:17:34.217 EST Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 05/27/2001 CA 3 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 06/21/2001 BEVERLY HILLS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 06/23/2001 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 05/31/2003 BEVERLY HILLS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 09/06/2003 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 06/17/2005 PACIFIC SW REGION 40,251 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 06/24/2005 CA 40,367 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 07/05/2005 CA 40,367 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 07/08/2005 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/12/2005 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 07/01/2006 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/18/2007 CA 85,144 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 02/02/2008 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 02/10/2008
Re: [MBZ] 250S Boston
Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/906679418.html If that baby blue beauty were within 300 miles of me... Frankenbenz! Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 250S Boston
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Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't mean to be rude. Topic says Suburban 454, coulds be 1/2, 3/4 or 1 ton. Got to careful with truck tires, lotsa folks under inflate and make very dangerous rides. I run 80psi in my F250, rides hard! Doesn't shrug at #4,000 in the back. It's all good :) Is 80PSI the max for the tires? If thats the case wouldn't you run 60-70 so when you have a higher load you have some pressure margin? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
John Robbins wrote: Are we talking about 3/4 and 1 tons? I believe the subject vehicle was a Suburban 2500, so yes, 3/4 ton. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D front brake replacement proceedure
Harry, I got that it was a joke, it was just that I didn't get the joke... :) Lets see if you can still give the offer after I've gotten this car back on the road. Got permission to take Friday off. Assuming the grease doesn't arrive I'm going to attempt to install the new rotors without regreasing. I'll do that as soon as the grease arrives. The push here is to get it done Friday so I can get it in for inspection Saturday. MA is pretty serious about inspection. I have 7 days to get it inspected after I put plates on or I get fined. -Curt --- On Wed, 11/5/08, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D front brake replacement proceedure To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:32 PM Sorry Curt A weak attempt to be cute, should have put on a smiley face. However, I like your deep, think ahead attitude and I was sincere about having you work on my cars anytime. Now I understand about the rotors. Harry The car sat, the rotors are toast... I don't understand the last bit, golf cart? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 250S Boston
Hi, All. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/906679418.html Fred Moir Lynn MA Not Mine! (Dammit!) No Affilliation etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
When was the last time you put in fuel? Maybe gelled summer fuel? An incandescent bulb in a trouble light under the hood by the IP overnight might warm it enough to find out. I'm still voting for valves. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:19 -0600 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
It's ok to inflate any tire to it's max, or what is required on the
vehicle info plate. When cold.
It does no harm if the pressure creeps up 10% or so when the tyre gets
hot. The tire is designed for that load.
Check with your tire dealers!
Pete
[pOn Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:23:49 -0600, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Didn't mean to be rude. Topic says Suburban 454, coulds be 1/2, 3/4 or 1
ton.
Got to careful with truck tires, lotsa folks under inflate and make very
dangerous rides.
I run 80psi in my F250, rides hard! Doesn't shrug at #4,000 in the back.
It's all good :) Is 80PSI the max for the tires? If thats the case
wouldn't you run 60-70 so when you have a higher load you have some
pressure margin?
John
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Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
No, it wouldn't and I do want to do that in any event. However, I really do doubt that is the reason it won't start right now. It seems to have come on too sudden in my mind. I mainly want to get it running once more to warm the oil and drain it and change the filter You also have to understand that we are about to enter winter here by the sounds of things. We broke a 105 year old record for high temperature on Monday with a plus 19 C but today it is 5 C and we have a winter storm warning with a Colorado low coming in from the Dakotas. Predicted highs for the coming days are all negative numbers. I would have to do this in my unheated garage. I know one is supposed to do the valves with the engine cold, but this could become silly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start Randy, would it kill you to adjust the valves? This is a fun job if you know what you're doing. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no clear inline filter. I bought some with the intention to install but have not done so. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start R A Bennell wrote: The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. The valves get tighter when cold, so if that was the problem I wouldn't have expected it to start on Saturday. If your IP is sucking a bit of air but still pumping some fuel through the injectors, you can get white smoke when running, and I'd think it would be harder to start. Do you have a clear inline fuel filter under the hood? Does it have air or black crap in it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300SD Electric Antenna ..
Well it is stuck in the down position. Radio does out put the signal Hot when radio on on the terminal that has the single black wire plugged into (the radio) near the 4 conductor plug.. Is there any good trouble shooting procedures / recommendations? I did not see any thing around the excellent Jim Cathey ACC check list. Is there a way to check out / work on the unit (antenna)? The procedure for removing the mast has the antenna extended. Can it be taken apart with it retracted?? What electrical tests should I perform? (The trunk light is functioning.) George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 207K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
Fuel is less than 2 or 3 weeks old. I have not had this problem in previous years. When it gets below zero C I have trouble starting if I don't plug in but if I do, it fires up like summertime. This time is unusual as it has not been that cold yet. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start When was the last time you put in fuel? Maybe gelled summer fuel? An incandescent bulb in a trouble light under the hood by the IP overnight might warm it enough to find out. I'm still voting for valves. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:19 -0600 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, this is cool
http://www.greatdanepro.com/Blue%20Bueaty/index.htm -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
Not close -- about three hours to my northeast. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
Yea, looks like its almost to MN. Wonko the Sane wrote: Not close -- about three hours to my northeast. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 v 85 190D
I have a 84 190D auto with the original window sticker, it says 35mpg highway. On fueleconomy.gov, they only go back to 85 and for that it says the 85 gets 33 when looking at the original sticker option (not revised figure). So, will a 84 get 2mpg better than a 85? It has the smaller wheels and no egr. Would the smaller wheels or not egr make a difference? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 v 85 190D
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have a 84 190D auto with the original window sticker, it says 35mpg highway. On fueleconomy.gov, they only go back to 85 and for that it says the 85 gets 33 when looking at the original sticker option (not revised figure). So, will a 84 get 2mpg better than a 85? It has the smaller wheels and no egr. Would the smaller wheels or not egr make a difference? Dunno about 2mpg, but there would definitely be a difference. EGR doesn't do kind things to fuel economy. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Mitch Haley wrote: I thought the WDB VINs were for Westgermany, Daimler Benz, so W from SA puzzles me too. Now that Deutchland has been reunited and West Germany is no more, what do the German cars start with, a D? Does the W now mean South Africa? W still means Germany/West Germany. The next two are a manufacturer's code; DB = Daimler Benz. I don't know if OstGermany joined the VIN standardization club, but our Trabant starts with E, but it is a '75. South Africa should start with A. Maybe they're only assembling knocked-down kits there, with enough work done in Germany to warrant a W VIN? The Monroney on the new C I looked at last week said Final Assembly was in East London, ZA with something like 80+% of the parts content coming from Germany. Tom When I was young, all this made sense. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
For a given tire, the higher the pressure the smaller the footprint and the less likely to hydroplane. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 11/5/08 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage Mitch Haley wrote: Do you know how hard it is to plane a tire with 80-90PSI in it? No... my understanding was that the higher the PSI the easier it was to hydroplane. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
Rust? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yea, looks like its almost to MN. Wonko the Sane wrote: Not close -- about three hours to my northeast. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
supposedly one small spot on the drivers door. Wonko the Sane wrote: Rust? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yea, looks like its almost to MN. Wonko the Sane wrote: Not close -- about three hours to my northeast. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody near Osage, IA?
Maybe but I would be suspicious. You've seen first-hand how my 240D has deteriorated after three Iowa winters. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: supposedly one small spot on the drivers door. Wonko the Sane wrote: Rust? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, looks like its almost to MN. Wonko the Sane wrote: Not close -- about three hours to my northeast. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: car I might be interested in. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1769 - Release Date: 11/5/2008 7:17 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
Remove the hose from the air cleaner at the intake and aim a LIT propane hand torch into the intake as you crank after glowing. Unburned propane will explode the engine (literally blow the valve cover and oil pan off), but a LIT torch will supply enough extra heat to get it to fire off. Most likely you have a combination of low compression, poopy injectors, and a slow starter -- note that it will NEVER start if the rpm while cranking is less than 100 -- the compression leaks off. Adjust the valves and verify that you have good fuel -- air in the IP will still give you some oil smoke but no fire. Peter On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. Pete -- Original message -- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
Verify that you do not have leaks in the suction side fuel lines -- a bad line here will fill the IP with foam, and you won't get it started. This happens suddenly, usually. Peter On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:18 PM, R A Bennell wrote: I have no doubt that the valves should be adjusted, but does it not seem odd that it started and ran fine on Saturday evening and then wouldn'tt start 36 hours later? The temperature was warmer on Monday than it was on Saturday so that ought not to be an issue either. I also plugged in the block heater for a bit on Monday and tried it again without any improvement. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: White smoke from the exhaust indicates there is fuel present. The older Dodges used an electric resistance heater at the air intake as a starting aid. With that knowledge, I wonder if using a heat gun at the intake would safely help start a car such as yours. If the toaster wires get hot, and he put new glow plugs in anyway with no improvement, I wonder if the valves are tight and need adjusting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CDI Info Goodness
http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdfs/331_0405update/03-331%20pp%20diesel%20print(FAH)%205-5-04.pdf John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Thanks Kaleb, much appreciated! On to San Diego tomorrow ro hopefully bring it home. John On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AutoCheck user log out: home | buyback registration | about us | contact us | help check existing report [VIN History] 4JGAB54E21A264913 or enter a new VIN Print options: Report will print: With section details shown With section details hidden Summary Report Run Date: 2008-11-05 16:17:34.217 EST The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: 4JGAB54E21A264913 Year: 2001 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: M Class ML320 Style/Body: SUV / Utility 4D Class: CUV - Premium Engine: 3.2L V6 EFI / SMPI Country of Assembly: United States Vehicle Age: 7 year(s) Calculated Owners: 3 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 85,144 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 90 91-93 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 3 05/27/2001 40,251 06/17/2005 40,367 06/24/2005 40,367 07/05/2005 85,144 05/18/2007 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s) No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record Emission/safety inspection record(s) Loan/Lien record(s) No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 2008-11-05 16:17:34.217 EST Vehicle: 2001 Mercedes-Benz M Class ML320 (4JGAB54E21A264913) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 05/27/2001 CA 3 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 06/21/2001 BEVERLY HILLS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 06/23/2001 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 05/31/2003 BEVERLY HILLS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 09/06/2003 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 06/17/2005 PACIFIC SW REGION 40,251 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 06/24/2005 CA 40,367 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 07/05/2005 CA 40,367 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 07/08/2005 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/12/2005 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 07/01/2006 VALLEY CENTER, CA Motor
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
Free is good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb I had a spare but sent it to someone on the list (for free). Forget who. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you did...I guess time passes slowly when you have a non running car sitting in the garage. I shall employ more patience. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb Seems I told you I was checking. Robert Rentfro wrote: What about the glow plug relay? You got one? Wie viel? Thanks Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1766 - Release Date: 11/4/2008 8:26 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage
Yes. 3/41 ton trucks usually have a ten ply tire. That is a load range E. Max air pressure is 80 psi. Most car tires are four ply with a maximum pressure of 44psi. 80psi would be very scary in a passenger tire, both in handling and risk of explosion due to overpressurization. Mike -Original Message- Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:44:20 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suburban 454 mileage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't invent this term but; Bt Wrong. Tyres on that truck have a max rating of about 85psi to carry it's fully rated load. Failure to properly inflate them will drastically reduce their carrying capacity. Easy now! I didn't realize truck tires were *that* different from car tires. I knew semi-truck tires were, but not plain old truck tires. Are we talking about 3/4 and 1 tons? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
Yes I do...just did a bunch of cooling system work on it. Still runs like mad. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb Robert Rentfro wrote: Yes you did...I guess time passes slowly when you have a non running car sitting in the garage. Do you still have the Acura? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
Timing is everything. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free is good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1985 300SD Electric Antenna ..
radio) near the 4 conductor plug.. Is there any good trouble shooting procedures / recommendations? I did not see any thing around the excellent Jim Cathey ACC check list. Is there a way to check out / work on the unit (antenna)? Had I kept at the biz the antenna would no doubt have gotten the same treatment. But it can be diagnosed: the plug to it should have hot, ground, and a signal from the radio. Also a wire or two associated with the dash switch. The car's schematic is invaluable here. But the usual problem is inside the antenna. Mechanical stickage, or fried electronics, or broken belt (86+). The procedure for removing the mast has the antenna extended. Can it be taken apart with it retracted?? Yes, but you usually remove the whole thing from the car, open it up, and peel it apart that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I've never seen the toasters glow. If they are, perhaps the plugs are shorted? Do you get the 1V drop across the two terminals of the glow plug? (Center screw, and collar.) I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. If the feed and return fuel lines ever got switched you can run out of fuel early. Easy to do, they're both right there together near the injection pump. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
Yes it is -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb Timing is everything. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free is good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looking for a Glow Plug Relay
Anyone have a functioning glow plug relay laying around you want to part with? 0015452232 is the part number. I know you have one, Rusty. I'll check before I part with 188 clam shells. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members
I'm in a real pickle with an engine issue at work, and I can't get any help on this side of the pond. I have a Mitsubishi 1.5L industrial gas(oline) engine that is used on a generator. It is the same basic engine that was used on the 91-95 Mitsubishi Mirages. That being said, there are some mechanical and electrical differences between the distributor on this engine and the automotive application that prevent me from using the automotive application distributor. The distributor has an internal coil which is different from the automotive application distributor. We have pretty well confirmed that the coil has failed, and courtesy of Rusty were able to get one of the automotive distributors to compare to be sure that they are different (we didn't know they were different until we got one to compare - dang it!) So my question is this: If there are any list members that are overseas that would be willing to see if they could source this distributor or parts for it I would be most appreciative. I would add that Mitsubishi has never sold industrial gas engines in the US - this is an import that was brought in by someone - hence the reason why we can't find parts for it here... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start
If it smokes it is getting some fuel. I have seen mufflers plug up where car will not get enough air to run. Also check air filter. For a diesel you need fuel, air, compression, and sequence to start. You are missing one. I have seen diesels flood before where they get so much fuel in the cylinders that they will not generate the heat needed to start. I have disconnected start and hooked up to 24V to get car to start, when you can not pull start them. Note the 24V trick also works if engine sat for long time and rings are stuck, then engine running usually fixes the stuck rings and all is well again. The trick is to put 24V to starter only and not to whole electrical system which will fry things. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 115 300D still won't start I checked the glow plugs etc and they appeared to be ok - the expansion wire glowed orange too. I had a new set so I put them all in but it did not help at all. I am starting to wonder if I have run it low on fuel. I knew I was getting toward the bottom of that tank given the mileage on the trip odometer etc but was waiting for the low fuel light to come on before refilling. I have about 350 miles on the tank according to the trip odometer. I have gone further than that but only in warmer weather with all highway driving. This tank is while it is cooler and has some urban driving so I may not have much left in th tank. I am wondering now if that light may have malfunctioned. So, before I dig any further, I am going to pick up a 5 gallon can of diesel and pour it into the tank. I might even change out the fuel filter as I have never done that in my 4 summers of driving it. I also got some of the small clear filters but the car did not have one originally and I have never put one in so I cannot crawl under and look for fuel or for crud in the filter either. My initial thought was the glow system as I drove the car on Saturday and it ran like normal. I went to help my brother-in-law do some electrical work and install a roof vent in his new garage. That is about 45 minutes away. I drove out there on Saturday morning and the car sat on the street from 10:30 to about 8:00 PM and then started normally and drove fine for 45 minutes home in the dark. Maybe I am lucky that I made it into the garage. I did not use it at all on Sunday and then Monday morning, it would not start. It cranks and it tries to fire and it smokes a cloud out the back but it does not start. Will add some fuel and see if that resolves the problem. My recollection is that it may take a fair amount of cranking if there is now some air in the lines. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI Info Goodness
Nice going, thanks John. Big file, but worth it. Now I can study this for the next 3 years to see if I want to keep it or not after the warranty expires! John On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdfs/331_0405update/03-331%20pp%20diesel%20print(FAH)%205-5-04.pdf John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members
Can you post pictures of the coil? Often the same part is used on different engines and cars. Thus having pictures would help. Also will the new distributor physically fit? If so hook it up with an external coil such that you don't have problem again. I have been meaning to make an ionization current sense ignition system for some time. Basically this is a coil per cylinder which uses the spark plug as a compression sensor. Thus it finds peak compression, aka TDC and then adjust timing accordingly. Thus hook up power, ground and spark plug and it would run regardless of engine. Also using the ionization current you can detect spark knock and have system automatically adjust timing on a per cylinder basis. Again just one more of my dream projects... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:41 PM To: Banned; Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members I'm in a real pickle with an engine issue at work, and I can't get any help on this side of the pond. I have a Mitsubishi 1.5L industrial gas(oline) engine that is used on a generator. It is the same basic engine that was used on the 91-95 Mitsubishi Mirages. That being said, there are some mechanical and electrical differences between the distributor on this engine and the automotive application that prevent me from using the automotive application distributor. The distributor has an internal coil which is different from the automotive application distributor. We have pretty well confirmed that the coil has failed, and courtesy of Rusty were able to get one of the automotive distributors to compare to be sure that they are different (we didn't know they were different until we got one to compare - dang it!) So my question is this: If there are any list members that are overseas that would be willing to see if they could source this distributor or parts for it I would be most appreciative. I would add that Mitsubishi has never sold industrial gas engines in the US - this is an import that was brought in by someone - hence the reason why we can't find parts for it here... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for a Glow Plug Relay
Let me check I junked a car awhile back but not sure if I saved the relay. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Looking for a Glow Plug Relay Anyone have a functioning glow plug relay laying around you want to part with? 0015452232 is the part number. I know you have one, Rusty. I'll check before I part with 188 clam shells. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members
I'll post some pictures tomorrow. For now you can look up the automotive version on buyasianparts.com using the part number DG22. The coils are different in the means they use for connection. The automotive version has different (and more) connectors. The body casting is identical, but the drive is different between the two. Thanks, Dan --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:11 PM Can you post pictures of the coil? Often the same part is used on different engines and cars. Thus having pictures would help. Also will the new distributor physically fit? If so hook it up with an external coil such that you don't have problem again. I have been meaning to make an ionization current sense ignition system for some time. Basically this is a coil per cylinder which uses the spark plug as a compression sensor. Thus it finds peak compression, aka TDC and then adjust timing accordingly. Thus hook up power, ground and spark plug and it would run regardless of engine. Also using the ionization current you can detect spark knock and have system automatically adjust timing on a per cylinder basis. Again just one more of my dream projects... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:41 PM To: Banned; Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] Help Needed from International List Members I'm in a real pickle with an engine issue at work, and I can't get any help on this side of the pond. I have a Mitsubishi 1.5L industrial gas(oline) engine that is used on a generator. It is the same basic engine that was used on the 91-95 Mitsubishi Mirages. That being said, there are some mechanical and electrical differences between the distributor on this engine and the automotive application that prevent me from using the automotive application distributor. The distributor has an internal coil which is different from the automotive application distributor. We have pretty well confirmed that the coil has failed, and courtesy of Rusty were able to get one of the automotive distributors to compare to be sure that they are different (we didn't know they were different until we got one to compare - dang it!) So my question is this: If there are any list members that are overseas that would be willing to see if they could source this distributor or parts for it I would be most appreciative. I would add that Mitsubishi has never sold industrial gas engines in the US - this is an import that was brought in by someone - hence the reason why we can't find parts for it here... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, this is cool
Truly amazing. Thanks for sharing. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://www.greatdanepro.com/Blue%20Bueaty/index.htm -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
