Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
they'd already killed the XJ (Cherokee) by the time the Libby came out; people are still wondering who asked for it, and exactly what void it was supposed to fill as it doesn't seem to have been able to do *anything* well. cheers! e Tom Hargrave wrote: There is truth to the rumor. The Jeep Liberty was slated to take the place of the aging Wrangler but Daimler misunderstood the Wrangler's following in this country. When news got out there was almost a revolt amongst Jeep owners and Daimler quickly back pedaled. By then the Liberty was already out on the street and it became the next Jeep model, not the Wrangler and not the Cherokee but something in between. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows these concept J**ps from the Underground gang that surfaced at J**p Week in Moab over Easter,... http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/story/jeep_mopar_concepts _at_moab_safari/ forgive me, but a couple of these are completely and totally bitchin'. (couldn't think of a more appropriate car-type word.) the way they got axle clearance under that Lower Forty while keeping the Center of Gravity as low as possible is the stuff of wet dreams to old trail hounds,... but give me something like that Overland Wrangler with the Diesel engine that's alluded to elsewhere in the article, and you'd have me seriously interested. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Jalopnik reports a rumor of Chrysler killing off the Wrangler which is the ONLY real Jeep left. If they do so they are dead, nothing anybody can do can overcome the inherent stupidity of the company as they will have completely destroyed the last name brand they had left worth anything. -Curt -- I am crewing on the Motorcycle Safety Crew for the AIDS LifeCycle ride from SF to LA for a week in June to raise money for the fight against AIDS. To learn more and/or to donate to the cause, go here: http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/ernestb -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090505/666500a9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
you, as many, may have misunderstood the XJ Cherokee; most off-roaders understand that any J**p is simply a platform on which to build the vehicle that best suits their interests and needs. our XJ has surprised many who didn't know what an XJ could do when properly prepared; and it does it with up to 4 passengers and their gear carried in air-conditioned comfort. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: The Cherokee holds a little place in my heart as my least favorite 4x4 ever. A stock Cherokee is so unimaginably sucky in the woods it astounds me. I also find them uncomfortable and amazingly unrefined. I have no idea why they are so popular. The Liberty (which is the Cherokee elsewhere in the world) is a close second. With very little feedback to the driver its amazingly easy to get stuck since you have nearly no idea what the wheels are doing. The body panels also have amazing sound transmitting properites which can make you think every stick you drive over is poking holes in the oil pan. Oh and the back seat is apparently plywood covered with nails... This is the old model, I have yet to ride in the new Dodge Nitro (snicker) based model. I also have to mention the Patriot and Compass (which are apparently both based on the (snicker!) Dodge Caliber) what idiot thought Jeep needed a car in its lineup? Of course if they sold well I suppose they'd be worth it, I'd love to know the real numbers on those. -Curt Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:30:57 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 016401c9cdea$4e6fa230$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 There is truth to the rumor. The Jeep Liberty was slated to take the place of the aging Wrangler but Daimler misunderstood the Wrangler's following in this country. When news got out there was almost a revolt amongst Jeep owners and Daimler quickly back pedaled. By then the Liberty was already out on the street and it became the next Jeep model, not the Wrangler and not the Cherokee but something in between. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090505/5463139f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I am crewing on the Motorcycle Safety Crew for the AIDS LifeCycle ride from SF to LA for a week in June to raise money for the fight against AIDS. To learn more and/or to donate to the cause, go here: http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/ernestb -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/d8eb7364/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
which one are you talking about? that article addressed several different vehicles and there are pictures of more in the gallery. if you're talking about the Lower Forty, it's a case of Form following Function; almost exactly as it should be for a serious vehicle for the unpaved. if you're talking about the Overland, what's not to like? a rolling campsite that can go most anywhere?! as fr concept vehicles that they really should have done, there's the next-gen Jeepster, as well as the Dakar and the Casablanca,... the Gladiator was just sort of a spin-off of what AEV had been doing for a while already when they were making a Comanche-like spin-off from the XJ, and like the Brute they make now out of the Wrangler. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Yuck, looks, looks like a Rat Fink drawing come to life. I'm still not ready to forgive Jeep for not making the Gladiator they'd made a concept of a few years back. Toyota made the FJ cruiser that they'd shown as a concept at about the same time and if the number of them I see is any indication they've done quite well... -Curt Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:13:24 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a00e434.8030...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed and amazingly enough, at the same time a report from Down Under shows these concept J**ps from the Underground gang that surfaced at J**p Week in Moab over Easter,... http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/story/jeep_mopar_concepts_at_moab_safari/ forgive me, but a couple of these are completely and totally bitchin'. (couldn't think of a more appropriate car-type word.) the way they got axle clearance under that Lower Forty while keeping the Center of Gravity as low as possible is the stuff of wet dreams to old trail hounds,... but give me something like that Overland Wrangler with the Diesel engine that's alluded to elsewhere in the article, and you'd have me seriously interested. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Jalopnik reports a rumor of Chrysler killing off the Wrangler which is the ONLY real Jeep left. If they do so they are dead, nothing anybody can do can overcome the inherent stupidity of the company as they will have completely destroyed the last name brand they had left worth anything. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090505/95d12ea7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I am crewing on the Motorcycle Safety Crew for the AIDS LifeCycle ride from SF to LA for a week in June to raise money for the fight against AIDS. To learn more and/or to donate to the cause, go here: http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/ernestb -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/b0a1ce98/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
Can't let a good crisis go to waste! Luther Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: The auto industry, unions, and gummint have been in a dysfunctional alliance for decades, the chickensss are comin home to roosst!!! It's called influence peddling, and for the first time since the presidential election, I think we're seeing evidence that the President has engaged in high crimes or misdemeanors. I can't recall anybody else in my lifetime achieving that in the first 100 days. http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-this-hedge-fund-managers-not-afraid-of-big-bad-obama-2009-5 -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
I would be right behind with the '83 300SD. That way, I could buy another one and I'd have the money to fix the flaws like non-working AC and rusty rear window channel. Of course, this would only work if word of the $4500 hadn't spread too far. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who's glad to be on the road once again ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
None of us know the inner workings of GM or any other company - we just listen to the talking heads on CNN FOX believe what they tell us. I remember when the talking heads stated that Chrysler was dead in the early 80s, then Chrysler pulled out thrived for more than 20 years! GM is far from dead. GM is trying to survive and they will probably make it. The one to watch is Ford. They were lucky enough to have more cash on hand when things went south but it's catching up with them fast. It's likely that GM and Chrysler will restructure leave Ford behind. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: This is just so astounding on so many levels. http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE54471X20090505 GM is dead. It's all over but the burial. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
This is when my 'collection' will really shine. I'll just sit on mine until the value of the few that remain after crush-o-palooza climbs to well _above_ the crush price. Then I'll be rich. Rich, I say! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D
shipping would be free. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D Thanks for the info, am going with a guy in the bay area Hayward. That is going to rebuild my transmission for $1350 and RR it for $350. With the same 2 year unlimited mileage. He mentioned that he worked for Peter Schmid. I felt that this guy is going to do a good job. We'll see.. Rusty I am still going to need the unwired tools replacement for the servo, you quoted me $675 for the unit though I would like to know what the shipping of the unit would be to zip code 95687. I expect that there will be a compressor soon to follow the control unit also. thanks.. Douglas - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D $125.00 for shipping one way, we pay shipping on the core going back. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D Do you have a 722.1 available? And the shipping costs to 95687? Thanks Douglas - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D We sell rebuilt transmissions for $1595.00 with torque converter and a 2 year warranty. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D I had my 1981 300SD tranny rebuilt for 2500.00 at local transmission shop. I dropped off the car and picked it up two weeks later. Mike in Michigan -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:19 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D I have hhad the tranny slipping for a few weeks now changed the fluid and put in the conditioner but still slips. Went to the local indy and they said to replace it, it would be $4300. I took it to Aamco and they started with the story to rebuild it. Though they to came back a day later with replacing it for $3500. Not sure what to do now. Have seen a place that transmissions on craigslist down in Hayward CA am going to give them a call. Any ideas? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090429/70 94179d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
And here I thought it was a car to drive around in... My parents had a '95, my in-laws have a '96, both suck. I can't find any position in any seat thats comfortable at all. They're loud, the one my parents had's clutch felt like it was full of sand. Both of them had a failure of the windshield gasket that put water under the carpet and rotted out the floor under the passenger seat. In fact once I noticed it and started looking around ALL the Cherokees I could find in this area are either missing the metal under the passenger seat, its been replaced or have a replacement windshield... -Curt Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:05:37 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a0136c1.4030...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed you, as many, may have misunderstood the XJ Cherokee; most off-roaders understand that any J**p is simply a platform on which to build the vehicle that best suits their interests and needs. our XJ has surprised many who didn't know what an XJ could do when properly prepared; and it does it with up to 4 passengers and their gear carried in air-conditioned comfort. cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/396686db/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 01:22:51 -0700 From: kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: faa2be97cce04b728cc577438473f...@kevinpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I would be right behind with the '83 300SD. That way, I could buy another one and I'd have the money to fix the flaws like non-working AC and rusty rear window channel. Of course, this would only work if word of the $4500 hadn't spread too far. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who's glad to be on the road once again -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/abd3a790/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
What do you think of the new Grand? Jalopnik claims its one of the vehicles that brought Chrysler down. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the body cladding and didn't buy a newer Dakota based partially on that and how cheap the whole package felt. As a top of the line SUV I'd hope the Grand wasn't like that. -Curt From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:tharg...@hiwaay.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:27 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: RE: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update The new Liberty and I love it. Wife convinced me to trade - she works for Chrysler. She also traded her Grand Cherokee for a new Grand Cherokee. So, now we have 2 new Jeeps, the 87 300SDL, 77 Vette and a couple of motorcycles. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/065caef5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
I think only to buy a Gummint Motors car on the approved list. --R Curt Raymond wrote: What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 01:22:51 -0700 From: kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: faa2be97cce04b728cc577438473f...@kevinpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I would be right behind with the '83 300SD. That way, I could buy another one and I'd have the money to fix the flaws like non-working AC and rusty rear window channel. Of course, this would only work if word of the $4500 hadn't spread too far. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who's glad to be on the road once again -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/abd3a790/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blasting
We have a media blasting cabinet here at work. We use a number of different types of media, mainly based on the piece we're trying to clean. There are all kinds of media, things like nut shells, plastic beads, etc., etc. I'm not sure what's in it right now, but I was using it to clean a cast iron piece for a Walker-Turner belt/disc sander I restored and it took 3 layers of 30+ year old paint off in record time. Our cabinet has a filter system in it too, so the crap that gets blasted off doesn't mix with the media, which is nice. You don't want old lead-based paint flying around... Dan --- On Tue, 5/5/09, relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com wrote: From: relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] blasting To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:35 PM ...What's the deal on bead blasting? Should I try this at home? How is this better than using my Home Despot power washer?.. The term is media blasting, not bead blasting. Media blasting removes everything down to the metal and does not etch the surface as sand blasting can do. In fact there are several types of media used depending on what is being cleaned. As one example, a form of baking soda is used to remove the paint on aircraft followed by a washdown with water which gets the media out of the crevices. You cannot at home equal the result a commercial outfit can do. My friend SJB had the body of his 356A Porsce Speedster media blasted before it went to the metal shop for the major metal work and the blasting removed all the corrosion and old bondo. No, your pressure washer won't do anything but remove dirt and grease but leave behind the rust. And I have hundreds of hours on my Karcher 1750 to prove it. Just pay to have it done right and you will have the best result. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322931x1201367171/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115; bcd=May5509AvgfooterNO115) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090505/1c0e04bc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM 617 vacuum pump rebuild howto
Does anyone have a writeup or link to a writeup on rebuilding the vacuum pumps? TIA all, -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blasting
CAution Will Rogers!
Improper media blasting has ruined the sheet metal {Imparted energy will warp
the panels} when done by amateurs. Have a pro do it.
--
Peter Arnold
Windsor, CT
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From: relng...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:35:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] blasting
...What's the deal on bead blasting? Should I try this at home? How is
this better than using my Home Despot power washer?..
The term is media blasting, not bead blasting. Media blasting removes
everything down to the metal and does not etch the surface as sand blasting can
do. In fact there are several types of media used depending on what is being
cleaned. As one example, a form of baking soda is used to remove the paint
on aircraft followed by a washdown with water which gets the media out of the
crevices.
You cannot at home equal the result a commercial outfit can do. My friend
SJB had the body of his 356A Porsce Speedster media blasted before it went to
the metal shop for the major metal work and the blasting removed all the
corrosion and old bondo.
No, your pressure washer won't do anything but remove dirt and grease but
leave behind the rust. And I have hundreds of hours on my Karcher 1750 to
prove it.
Just pay to have it done right and you will have the best result.
RLE
**
A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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[MBZ] OT: fun with shotguns
Turns out that .410 shell brass makes nice button inserts for a beater trumpet that is missing them: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/horns/toldsba.jpg Shoe Goo, of course! (I'm anxiously awaiting my [eBay] Frumpet to arrive. As these are nearly universally reviled of course I had to have one!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 617 vacuum pump rebuild howto
http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm If you are just doing the diaphragm you can do that without taking the whole thing off (which is more involved). You need to get the whole area REALLY CLEAN, like spray the whole area down with degreaser then take a brush and high-pressure hose to it and clean all around. Take off the fan and shroud (loosen the belts) (maybe do this before cleaning if you can do it at home, otherwise go to the quarter car wash and spray it all good then take that stuff off back home). Take off the hose fittings, then take off the screws that hold the diaphragm cover on. These are machine screws with slotted heads, 7 or 8, a bit fiddly but with a short bit in some kind of holder like a little ratchet (or power driver), where you can get some torque you can get them all off and then just slide the cover off. One or 2 are hard to see but they are there. The diaphragm is held on now buy the center bolt, an allen screw, with little round metal disks front and back. It helps if you rotate the engine enough so that the diaphragm is flat. Pay attention to how they are together and oriented. The little check valves are in the cover with the 2 acrews, they get goobered if any oil has leaked. You might be able to clean them, or just replace them, pay attention to orientation. Put it back together with the blue loctite on the allen screw that holds the diaphragm on, then button it all up. A magnetic screw bit helps the screws to get in the right places. Clean out the hoses to make sure there is no oil goobering them up. I did this the other day, have to do it again as the diaphragm looked good and I put it back, but is still not sucking, so gotta replace it. The screw was loose so it was not diaphragmming. --R Luther wrote: Does anyone have a writeup or link to a writeup on rebuilding the vacuum pumps? TIA all, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blasting
That's Danger Will Robinson
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Improper media blasting has ruined the sheet metal {Imparted energy will warp the panels} when done by amateurs. Have a pro do it.
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Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
From: Curt Raymond What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... -Curt - Hi Curt, Why a Fiesta? Does it get good mileage? Who makes it for Ford? Thanks, Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.20/2100 - Release Date: 05/06/09 06:04:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Curt Raymond wrote: What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... What you're missing is that it's indexed on how thirsty the old one is compared to the new one. You should be out shopping for junker V12 Jags to trade in on Cobalt XFEs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 617 vacuum pump rebuild howto
Kaleb, why is this not on YOUR website? :) Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm If you are just doing the diaphragm you can do that without taking the whole thing off (which is more involved). You need to get the whole area REALLY CLEAN, like spray the whole area down with degreaser then take a brush and high-pressure hose to it and clean all around. Take off the fan and shroud (loosen the belts) (maybe do this before cleaning if you can do it at home, otherwise go to the quarter car wash and spray it all good then take that stuff off back home). Take off the hose fittings, then take off the screws that hold the diaphragm cover on. These are machine screws with slotted heads, 7 or 8, a bit fiddly but with a short bit in some kind of holder like a little ratchet (or power driver), where you can get some torque you can get them all off and then just slide the cover off. One or 2 are hard to see but they are there. The diaphragm is held on now buy the center bolt, an allen screw, with little round metal disks front and back. It helps if you rotate the engine enough so that the diaphragm is flat. Pay attention to how they are together and oriented. The little check valves are in the cover with the 2 acrews, they get goobered if any oil has leaked. You might be able to clean them, or just replace them, pay attention to orientation. Put it back together with the blue loctite on the allen screw that holds the diaphragm on, then button it all up. A magnetic screw bit helps the screws to get in the right places. Clean out the hoses to make sure there is no oil goobering them up. I did this the other day, have to do it again as the diaphragm looked good and I put it back, but is still not sucking, so gotta replace it. The screw was loose so it was not diaphragmming. --R Luther wrote: Does anyone have a writeup or link to a writeup on rebuilding the vacuum pumps? TIA all, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 617 vacuum pump rebuild howto
BINGO, thank you much! Luther Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm If you are just doing the diaphragm you can do that without taking the whole thing off (which is more involved). You need to get the whole area REALLY CLEAN, like spray the whole area down with degreaser then take a brush and high-pressure hose to it and clean all around. Take off the fan and shroud (loosen the belts) (maybe do this before cleaning if you can do it at home, otherwise go to the quarter car wash and spray it all good then take that stuff off back home). Take off the hose fittings, then take off the screws that hold the diaphragm cover on. These are machine screws with slotted heads, 7 or 8, a bit fiddly but with a short bit in some kind of holder like a little ratchet (or power driver), where you can get some torque you can get them all off and then just slide the cover off. One or 2 are hard to see but they are there. The diaphragm is held on now buy the center bolt, an allen screw, with little round metal disks front and back. It helps if you rotate the engine enough so that the diaphragm is flat. Pay attention to how they are together and oriented. The little check valves are in the cover with the 2 acrews, they get goobered if any oil has leaked. You might be able to clean them, or just replace them, pay attention to orientation. Put it back together with the blue loctite on the allen screw that holds the diaphragm on, then button it all up. A magnetic screw bit helps the screws to get in the right places. Clean out the hoses to make sure there is no oil goobering them up. I did this the other day, have to do it again as the diaphragm looked good and I put it back, but is still not sucking, so gotta replace it. The screw was loose so it was not diaphragmming. --R Luther wrote: Does anyone have a writeup or link to a writeup on rebuilding the vacuum pumps? TIA all, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: fun with shotguns
nice, can you make a trio for my Bach Strad? :) Jim Cathey wrote: Turns out that .410 shell brass makes nice button inserts for a beater trumpet that is missing them: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/horns/toldsba.jpg Shoe Goo, of course! (I'm anxiously awaiting my [eBay] Frumpet to arrive. As these are nearly universally reviled of course I had to have one!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
after nearly a half century of cynically mocking the american public, it's really about time for all 3 to just go away. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: None of us know the inner workings of GM or any other company - we just listen to the talking heads on CNN FOX believe what they tell us. I remember when the talking heads stated that Chrysler was dead in the early 80s, then Chrysler pulled out thrived for more than 20 years! GM is far from dead. GM is trying to survive and they will probably make it. The one to watch is Ford. They were lucky enough to have more cash on hand when things went south but it's catching up with them fast. It's likely that GM and Chrysler will restructure leave Ford behind. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/%0A256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: This is just so astounding on so many levels. http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE54471X20090505 GM is dead. It's all over but the burial. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/695aa46b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz 240D (W123) NHTSA Full-Frontal Impact
Having eaten an MB steering wheel back in 1971 I can assure you they are not compatible with retaining a full set of teeth, or all parts of your jaw. They found and reinstalled 4 out of 5 pieces of mine, and most of my teeth. 1962 220Sb, RIP. Camero and driver who hit me, RIP also. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz 240D (W123) NHTSA Full-Frontal Impact The grille and lights seem to have survived intact. Not sure how pleasant eating the steering wheel would be, the shoulder belt did not look like it did much good. Maybe the steering wheel is tastier than the windshield though.. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGv5wjrcOc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 617 vacuum pump rebuild howto
because I have not yet got somebody to work on our site yet. Which reminds me, I need to get that done. Luther wrote: Kaleb, why is this not on YOUR website? :) Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm If you are just doing the diaphragm you can do that without taking the whole thing off (which is more involved). You need to get the whole area REALLY CLEAN, like spray the whole area down with degreaser then take a brush and high-pressure hose to it and clean all around. Take off the fan and shroud (loosen the belts) (maybe do this before cleaning if you can do it at home, otherwise go to the quarter car wash and spray it all good then take that stuff off back home). Take off the hose fittings, then take off the screws that hold the diaphragm cover on. These are machine screws with slotted heads, 7 or 8, a bit fiddly but with a short bit in some kind of holder like a little ratchet (or power driver), where you can get some torque you can get them all off and then just slide the cover off. One or 2 are hard to see but they are there. The diaphragm is held on now buy the center bolt, an allen screw, with little round metal disks front and back. It helps if you rotate the engine enough so that the diaphragm is flat. Pay attention to how they are together and oriented. The little check valves are in the cover with the 2 acrews, they get goobered if any oil has leaked. You might be able to clean them, or just replace them, pay attention to orientation. Put it back together with the blue loctite on the allen screw that holds the diaphragm on, then button it all up. A magnetic screw bit helps the screws to get in the right places. Clean out the hoses to make sure there is no oil goobering them up. I did this the other day, have to do it again as the diaphragm looked good and I put it back, but is still not sucking, so gotta replace it. The screw was loose so it was not diaphragmming. --R Luther wrote: Does anyone have a writeup or link to a writeup on rebuilding the vacuum pumps? TIA all, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blasting
Not that you necessarily want to do this, but the pressure washer can remove
paint etc. You need one of the ones
that can shoot sand with the water. A bit of a dangerous tool in the wrong
hands. Probably best for removal of
graffiti from brick etc.
Randy
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CAution Will Rogers!
Improper media blasting has ruined the sheet metal {Imparted energy will warp
the panels} when done by amateurs.
Have a pro do it.
--
Peter Arnold
Windsor, CT
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] blasting
...What's the deal on bead blasting? Should I try this at home? How is
this better than using my Home Despot power washer?..
The term is media blasting, not bead blasting. Media blasting removes
everything down to the metal and does not etch the surface as sand blasting can
do. In fact there are several types of media used depending on what is being
cleaned. As one example, a form of baking soda is used to remove the paint
on aircraft followed by a washdown with water which gets the media out of the
crevices.
You cannot at home equal the result a commercial outfit can do. My friend
SJB had the body of his 356A Porsce Speedster media blasted before it went to
the metal shop for the major metal work and the blasting removed all the
corrosion and old bondo.
No, your pressure washer won't do anything but remove dirt and grease but
leave behind the rust. And I have hundreds of hours on my Karcher 1750 to
prove it.
Just pay to have it done right and you will have the best result.
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Re: [MBZ] slipping tranny 1980 300D
I've purchased 2 transmissions from Sun Valley Mercedes out of CA. One for the '83 300SD we bought from Caleb about 6 years ago or so, and another 2 years ago for my wife's '88 190D. So far no problems with either, and the install on the 190 was botched a bit (original installer wasn't available), and it's still shifting hard from 2nd into 3rd. If I'd known Rusty did trannys, I'd have gone with him. But hey, Rusty: I may end up needing one for the w115 300D I got from Caleb, if the donor Benz's tranny acts up. BTW, on a recent trip to OKC from here (Beaumont, TX), it only cost $40, and that got me within 30 miles of the house! Just wish those greedy bastards would put the cost of diesel around 85¢ where it belongssigh. -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:16:37 -0400 From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: e714ee11d4ce45b78a7f904892d6b...@rusty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response shipping would be free. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D Thanks for the info, am going with a guy in the bay area Hayward. That is going to rebuild my transmission for $1350 and RR it for $350. With the same 2 year unlimited mileage. He mentioned that he worked for Peter Schmid. I felt that this guy is going to do a good job. We'll see.. Rusty I am still going to need the unwired tools replacement for the servo, you quoted me $675 for the unit though I would like to know what the shipping of the unit would be to zip code 95687. I expect that there will be a compressor soon to follow the control unit also. thanks.. Douglas - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D $125.00 for shipping one way, we pay shipping on the core going back. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D Do you have a 722.1 available? And the shipping costs to 95687? Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D We sell rebuilt transmissions for $1595.00 with torque converter and a 2 year warranty. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D I had my 1981 300SD tranny rebuilt for 2500.00 at local transmission shop. I dropped off the car and picked it up two weeks later. Mike in Michigan -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:19 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D I have hhad the tranny slipping for a few weeks now changed the fluid and put in the conditioner but still slips. Went to the local indy and they said to replace it, it would be $4300. I took it to Aamco and they started with the story to rebuild it. Though they to came back a day later with replacing it for $3500. Not sure what to do now. Have seen a place that transmissions on craigslist down in Hayward CA am going to give them a call. Any ideas? Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:22:10 -0400 From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 2ada82ac17bf400587b6537a66179...@billardef4d8b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed From: Curt Raymond What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... -Curt - Hi Curt, Why a Fiesta? Does it get good mileage? Who makes it for Ford? Thanks, Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e594959b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
I wouldn't take a Cobalt if you paid me. Worst rental car I've ever had... -Curt Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:37:49 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a01a0bd.3030...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... What you're missing is that it's indexed on how thirsty the old one is compared to the new one. You should be out shopping for junker V12 Jags to trade in on Cobalt XFEs. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/4454ba38/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Gary, So, you think the Germans, Japanese and Koreans are better? Obviously, you don't remember history. The first Toyota cars were so dismal that they could not give then away in this country. The only Toyota that would sell in this country for years was the Land Cruiser. The first Honda cars were death traps - they were so bad in the early 70s that our Government forced them to stop selling until they got their act together. Then there were the mid-late Toyotas that would impale you on the steering column if you were unfortunate enough to be the driver of the car and had an accident without your seatbelt on. BTW, this problem was solved by GM in the 60s and GM thought the design improvement was so important that they gave it to the auto industry. The design was the collapsible steering column. All of the American auto makers adopted the design, Toyota did not. BTW, Mercedes did adopt their version of the design. Let's not forget Mercedes with their single roller timing chain engine that would fail in less than 100,000 miles - this was the 380 released in the late 80s. The 280 engine that would leak oil profusely from under the cam carrier maybe replacing the gaskets would work, maybe not. You also had the W107 sub-frame cracking issue, the late 60s diesel issue, the list goes on on. Oh, and the more recent Mercedes 320 engine that would sludge up die if you used Dino oil even though Dino oil was approved by Mercedes. Mercedes refused to fix this one until they lost a class action lawsuit. I'm not saying there aren't issues with the big three. But if you believe that the Japanese, German, Italian or Korean auto makers don't mock the American public, you are wrong. Their crap is no better than ours. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM after nearly a half century of cynically mocking the american public, it's really about time for all 3 to just go away. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: None of us know the inner workings of GM or any other company - we just listen to the talking heads on CNN FOX believe what they tell us. I remember when the talking heads stated that Chrysler was dead in the early 80s, then Chrysler pulled out thrived for more than 20 years! GM is far from dead. GM is trying to survive and they will probably make it. The one to watch is Ford. They were lucky enough to have more cash on hand when things went south but it's catching up with them fast. It's likely that GM and Chrysler will restructure leave Ford behind. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/%0A256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: This is just so astounding on so many levels. http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE54471X20090505 GM is dead. It's all over but the burial. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/69 5aa46b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
In that case I guess I should forget about trading my 77 Vette in for a new one. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/6/09 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys I think only to buy a Gummint Motors car on the approved list. --R Curt Raymond wrote: What I think many of you are missing is that its $4500 to buy a new car, like its a voucher to buy a new car... I'm thinking to get the $4500 out of my $400 240D to buy me a new Fiesta... -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 01:22:51 -0700 From: kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: faa2be97cce04b728cc577438473f...@kevinpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I would be right behind with the '83 300SD. That way, I could buy another one and I'd have the money to fix the flaws like non-working AC and rusty rear window channel. Of course, this would only work if word of the $4500 hadn't spread too far. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who's glad to be on the road once again -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009050 6/abd3a790/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Tom Hargrave wrote: Let's not forget Mercedes with their single roller timing chain engine that would fail in less than 100,000 miles - this was the 380 released in the late 80s. Gary's too busy complaining about his 2.2L Saturn that hasn't tossed it's timing chain yet to remember the 380. BTW, I thought about buying a 2003 Alero last month. 2.2L with the timing chain oil feed issue, 5sp, 4dr, white, 70k. Very few 4dr Oldsmobiles with the 5sp were made, and virtually all of them have 100k on the odometer by now. They fixed the timing chain problem in 2004 model year. Probably should have bought that $1800 190e that looked like it had Sportline seats, it was a better buy than a $4k Alero would be. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
From: Curt Raymond Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt - I had a ride to a motel in what I think was a Fiesta several years ago. It went like the devil and didn't ride bad for a small car. Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.20/2100 - Release Date: 05/06/09 06:04:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
yeah, that is teh great decision. spend a grand and redo the timing chain right or just play russian roulette and see how long it lasts. all because GM wanted to further mock me by saving a dime on an oiler. i'm glad to see them go On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: Let's not forget Mercedes with their single roller timing chain engine that would fail in less than 100,000 miles - this was the 380 released in the late 80s. Gary's too busy complaining about his 2.2L Saturn that hasn't tossed it's timing chain yet to remember the 380. BTW, I thought about buying a 2003 Alero last month. 2.2L with the timing chain oil feed issue, 5sp, 4dr, white, 70k. Very few 4dr Oldsmobiles with the 5sp were made, and virtually all of them have 100k on the odometer by now. They fixed the timing chain problem in 2004 model year. Probably should have bought that $1800 190e that looked like it had Sportline seats, it was a better buy than a $4k Alero would be. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/067cc6a5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, that is teh great decision. spend a grand and redo the timing chain right or just play russian roulette and see how long it lasts. all because GM wanted to further mock me by saving a dime on an oiler. The chain issue is wear, right? How easy is it to check the cam timing? Heck, most engines these days have both cam position sensors and crank position sensors. (firing the plugs off the crank sensor but knowing which cycle to fire on by the cam sensor) Seems like if the sensors are reasonably accurate, you could have the computer set off the SES light with a code for timing chain wore out, replace soon. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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no, it's not wear. it's lack of oiling and sudden catastrophic failure On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, that is teh great decision. spend a grand and redo the timing chain right or just play russian roulette and see how long it lasts. all because GM wanted to further mock me by saving a dime on an oiler. The chain issue is wear, right? How easy is it to check the cam timing? Heck, most engines these days have both cam position sensors and crank position sensors. (firing the plugs off the crank sensor but knowing which cycle to fire on by the cam sensor) Seems like if the sensors are reasonably accurate, you could have the computer set off the SES light with a code for timing chain wore out, replace soon. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/68cfd3d9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Don't forget MB's 350 Diesel rodbender that they still deny any responsibility for. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM Tom Hargrave wrote: Let's not forget Mercedes with their single roller timing chain engine that would fail in less than 100,000 miles - this was the 380 released in the late 80s. Gary's too busy complaining about his 2.2L Saturn that hasn't tossed it's timing chain yet to remember the 380. BTW, I thought about buying a 2003 Alero last month. 2.2L with the timing chain oil feed issue, 5sp, 4dr, white, 70k. Very few 4dr Oldsmobiles with the 5sp were made, and virtually all of them have 100k on the odometer by now. They fixed the timing chain problem in 2004 model year. Probably should have bought that $1800 190e that looked like it had Sportline seats, it was a better buy than a $4k Alero would be. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Gary Hurst wrote: no, it's not wear. it's lack of oiling and sudden catastrophic failure So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah. happens anytime with no warning. saved a dime for the general though and gave em a few more good laughs. yup, good times in detroit! let's have another martini! i won't miss em On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: no, it's not wear. it's lack of oiling and sudden catastrophic failure So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e395c0ca/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:19 -0400 From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 3cc142212ddd408b8de4f7a04c67c...@billardef4d8b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed From: Curt Raymond Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt - I had a ride to a motel in what I think was a Fiesta several years ago. It went like the devil and didn't ride bad for a small car. Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e676e3a7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Mitch Haley wrote: So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Here's what the 2003 TSB said: Purpose The purpose of this bulletin is to communicate updated service procedures to the timing chain and timing chain oiling nozzle due to design changes that have been made to both components. All timing chain kits now available in service will include the oiler nozzle. This new nozzle has higher flow rate characteristics that will increase oil flow to the timing chain under low RPM operating conditions. Whenever replacing a timing chain, it is important to replace the oiler nozzle. http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112711 So it sounds like you don't have adequate oil pressure at idle to properly oil the chain with the original smaller nozzle, and it's the people who sit at stoplights or drive like grandmothers who have the problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
lots blow up at startup. some at stops. some in motion. saturn dealers are instructed by GM to blame it on the customer. hargrave will miss these fools. i will not. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Here's what the 2003 TSB said: Purpose The purpose of this bulletin is to communicate updated service procedures to the timing chain and timing chain oiling nozzle due to design changes that have been made to both components. All timing chain kits now available in service will include the oiler nozzle. This new nozzle has higher flow rate characteristics that will increase oil flow to the timing chain under low RPM operating conditions. Whenever replacing a timing chain, it is important to replace the oiler nozzle. http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112711 So it sounds like you don't have adequate oil pressure at idle to properly oil the chain with the original smaller nozzle, and it's the people who sit at stoplights or drive like grandmothers who have the problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/2b90847a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Curt Raymond wrote: Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. The 1970's Fiesta was a reasonable alternative to the Rabbit IMO. I think they discontinued it about the time the 1981 Escort came out, give or take a year or so. The late 1980's Festiva was made by Kia, noisy, powerful for its weight, and reasonably durable, making it a far better choice than a Yugo, even if the resale value wasn't any better. Road and Track had pretty much identical 0-60 times listed for the 318i, the 2.2L Omni, and the Festiva, all with 5sp. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote: saturn dealers are instructed by GM to blame it on the customer. Despite there being a TSB out since 2003 that describes the problem and the solution... I'd still like to get my hands on a broken chain and measure the length under tension at some point far from the break. I bet they're worn from lack of lube and show over 4% elongation. I just don't know how easy it is to get at a long enough piece of chain to reliably measure it in the car. It's a bitch in my 2.4L Achieva, but I think the chain is more accessible in the 2.2L ecotec engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
I think the new Fiesta is coming to North America, and it looks like a hot little car from what I've read. I'm not a real fan of small cars, but I'd take a Fiesta over a Honda any day. Ed 300E 2009/5/6 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:19 -0400 From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 3cc142212ddd408b8de4f7a04c67c...@billardef4d8b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed From: Curt Raymond Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt - I had a ride to a motel in what I think was a Fiesta several years ago. It went like the devil and didn't ride bad for a small car. Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e676e3a7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/612e20d4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brakes
Just wanted to say, I got back from my local indie parts shop. Small place I've used when not buying factory original, which I buy 90% of the time. Anyway, thought I'd try some after market brakes, so had my guy order up new rotors for the front, along with pads and sensors. $168 Canadian, with taxes. At current exchange rates, I think that's equal to a couple of McDonald Happy Meals in the US. lol Who says driving a benz has to be expensive. ;-) So far, this car has been pretty cheap motoring. New tires later in the week, about $450 out the door for Uniroyals. I'm really starting to appreciate the running costs of this car!! Ed 300E -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/f9513f28/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Mitch Haley wrote: Here's what the 2003 TSB said: You have access to ALLDATA? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More from Chrysler
Dear Employees, The U.S. Bankruptcy Court approved a process for the expeditious sale of substantially all of Chrysler LLC’s assets. This is a major step forward as it sets out a swift, clear path to achieve our goal of concluding our alliance with Fiat S.p.A. and create a new company that will be stronger and more competitive. It is crucial that this transaction be completed in a timely manner in order to secure maximum value for our stakeholders and to preserve key relationships with suppliers, dealers and other business partners. In addition, financial commitments from the U.S. and Canadian governments require the alliance with Fiat be consummated within 60 days of Chapter 11 filing on April 30. Our new labor agreements with the UAW and CAW also depend on prompt completion of the proposed Fiat alliance. As we’ve said many times before, our leadership left no stone unturned as we aggressively pursued a strategy of alliances and partnerships with other OEMs and suppliers around the world. Out of respect for the negotiating process and confidentiality requirements, we have not commented in the past on partnership talks that have not resulted in deals. However, as part of the Bankruptcy Court process, we disclosed that we have previously discussed various transactions with Nissan, General Motors, Volkswagen, Tata Motors, Magna, GAZ, Hyundai, Honda and Toyota and others over an extended period of time. These discussions did not produce any viable alternative to the proposed alliance with Fiat. It’s clear that the Fiat deal represents the best opportunity for us. The court today established a fair and orderly process to confirm that the Fiat transaction represents the best and highest bid for Chrysler’s assets, or promptly identify any other higher and better alternatives. An alternative bidder would have to surpass the value of the terms of the agreement with Fiat to be successful. Going forward, important court dates for us are: •May 20, the deadline for submission of alternative bids •May 26, the deadline for the notice of designation of lead bidder •May 27, the date for the sale hearing to consider the approval of the proposed sale It’s important to remember that during this transition time, our dealers still have great products to offer. Our quality has never been better, as shown by our 29 percent reduction in warranty claims over the last year. For the 2009 model year, we improved the fuel economy on 73 percent of our products. Our dealers not only met their concession goals, but also have continued to show tremendous enthusiasm for our company, our brands and our products in their local communities. To assist our dealers and attract consumers, we are introducing new incentives beginning today. We’re offering as much as $4,000 consumer cash on 2009 model vehicles; a $1,000 owner loyalty incentive for current Chrysler LLC vehicle owners that is good towards most 2008 and 2009 vehicles; and as much as $1,000 credit union bonus cash for qualified members who finance their new vehicle purchase through one of 1,500 participating credit unions. These incentives are valid through June 1, and they make it a great time to shop for a new Chrysler, Jeep® or Dodge. Acclaim for our new products keeps rolling in. For example, the all-new 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 came out on top in a head-to-head competition against the Chevy Silverado, Ford F-150 and Toyota Tundra conducted by Edmunds.com. Edmunds praised the Ram’s 5.7-liter V-8 engine, towing ability, axle ratio, fuel efficiency and the RamBox™ cargo storage system. The publication also raved about interior features such as the heated and vented seats, the navigation system and rear-seat DVD. We realize that thousands of pages of documents have been filed with the court. As media members scrutinize these documents that are now public, you’ll undoubtedly continue to hear and read stories about our business. I want to remind you to go to HYPERLINK http://scoop.chrysler.comThe Scoop or to HYPERLINK http://www.chryslerrestructuring.comwww.chryslerrestructuring.com to get the details on all motions and documents that have been filed in court. Once more, thank you for your sacrifices, which have helped lay the groundwork for the swift completion of this process that will enable us to emerge as a vibrant company with bright, long-term prospects. Bob Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e4b79118/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go
Re: [MBZ] OT: fun with shotguns
.410 shells always made great whistles too. I particularly liked the plastic ones, but paper was good too, and the old ones with a rolled crimp made the best whistles. At 09:10 AM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Turns out that .410 shell brass makes nice button inserts for a beater trumpet that is missing them: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/horns/toldsba.jpg Shoe Goo, of course! (I'm anxiously awaiting my [eBay] Frumpet to arrive. As these are nearly universally reviled of course I had to have one!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Which reminds me, I saw a Yugo the other day, it was exiting the highway UNDER ITS OWN POWER! It had the upscale trim which I seem to remember was called Monte Carlo or something equally silly. -Curt Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:17:08 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a01e234.7080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. The 1970's Fiesta was a reasonable alternative to the Rabbit IMO. I think they discontinued it about the time the 1981 Escort came out, give or take a year or so. The late 1980's Festiva was made by Kia, noisy, powerful for its weight, and reasonably durable, making it a far better choice than a Yugo, even if the resale value wasn't any better. Road and Track had pretty much identical 0-60 times listed for the 318i, the 2.2L Omni, and the Festiva, all with 5sp. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/87d849ac/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
The Fesiva may have looked cheap but I knew many pizza delivery people who put 200K - 300K on the cars with no major issues. Friends were searching the local junkyards for seats, window regulators and door latches. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/6/09 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:19 -0400 From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 3cc142212ddd408b8de4f7a04c67c...@billardef4d8b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed From: Curt Raymond Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt - I had a ride to a motel in what I think was a Fiesta several years ago. It went like the devil and didn't ride bad for a small car. Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009050 6/e676e3a7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Kind of like the Mercedes 380 timing chain and Mercedes 300D head and Mercedes 350D rod bender failures??? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/6/09 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM yeah. happens anytime with no warning. saved a dime for the general though and gave em a few more good laughs. yup, good times in detroit! let's have another martini! i won't miss em On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: no, it's not wear. it's lack of oiling and sudden catastrophic failure So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009050 6/e395c0ca/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
I liked my Focus very much. When I was told I'd be getting a new car the supervisor told me I'd be getting a Fiesta. I was a bit concerned, despite his assurance it was a good car, until I discovered it was really a Focus. The early ones [mine was first US model year] had too many recalls [5 while I had it], but I did have 54 beautiful trouble free miles before it broke down the first time. That was the only time it stranded me, though. 7-8 hours a day in it was not a problem. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:47 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys Thats probably a Focus, the Fiesta isn't out here, I don't think they've made one since the '80s. The one in the '80s was a piece of crap but it was IIRC really really cheap so that balances.. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:19 -0400 From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 3cc142212ddd408b8de4f7a04c67c...@billardef4d8b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed From: Curt Raymond Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. -Curt - I had a ride to a motel in what I think was a Fiesta several years ago. It went like the devil and didn't ride bad for a small car. Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e6 76e3a7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Tom Hargrave wrote: The Fesiva may have looked cheap but I knew many pizza delivery people who put 200K - 300K on the cars with no major issues. Friends were searching the local junkyards for seats, window regulators and door latches. I knew a driver who bought a new Yugo GV. 50,000 miles later, my Horizon was as-new, her Yugo looked OK but had a blue cloud following it down the road. I don't know how well she maintained the Yugo. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
One of my brothers owned three of them. He kept them maintained for many years and many miles. He only stopped driving the cars when he could no longer find parts in the junkyard. All three were pulled off the road for items you could find for just about any other car on the road. Stupid stuff like the front strut failed on one and there were none available. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys Tom Hargrave wrote: The Fesiva may have looked cheap but I knew many pizza delivery people who put 200K - 300K on the cars with no major issues. Friends were searching the local junkyards for seats, window regulators and door latches. I knew a driver who bought a new Yugo GV. 50,000 miles later, my Horizon was as-new, her Yugo looked OK but had a blue cloud following it down the road. I don't know how well she maintained the Yugo. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better buy 'em now boys
Curt Raymond wrote: Yeah, Ford. Its not out yet here but the buzz is impressive. Its a small car, European design that they've used overseas for awhile. 118hp, ~40mpg, ~$12k, looks good and is purported to be a real drivers car. Of course I'll have to drive one to be sure but I'm interested thus far. It appears to be pretty versatile...http://tv.delfi.lv/video/vjH8NJUj/ Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300E issues
The 300E died while the wife was driving it today. Fortunately, she was only two blocks from the house and friends pushed her home. I arrived home from work this afternoon to find the hood up and a battery charger slapped on -- charging. Brother in law, Jeff (who is a real mechanic, unlike me, who is a shade tree mechanic) told Debbie to tell me it was either an alternator or a fuse. Is there any such fuse on a 300E? Second question. BuyMBParts web site shows two alternators, a 60 amp and an 80 amp. Difference is based on engine range. Where do I get this engine range info? Is it by VIN, by year, or a plate somewhere on the engine? -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/6ceda8b2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
No fuse I know of. Most likely the voltage regulator though. Wonko the Sane wrote: The 300E died while the wife was driving it today. Fortunately, she was only two blocks from the house and friends pushed her home. I arrived home from work this afternoon to find the hood up and a battery charger slapped on -- charging. Brother in law, Jeff (who is a real mechanic, unlike me, who is a shade tree mechanic) told Debbie to tell me it was either an alternator or a fuse. Is there any such fuse on a 300E? Second question. BuyMBParts web site shows two alternators, a 60 amp and an 80 amp. Difference is based on engine range. Where do I get this engine range info? Is it by VIN, by year, or a plate somewhere on the engine? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
Is that part of the alternator, like it is on a 240D? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: No fuse I know of. Most likely the voltage regulator though. -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/52579ce6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
Yea, its just screws into the back of the alternator. Remove the 2 screws, pull it out, and see if the brushes are worn down. Wonko the Sane wrote: Is that part of the alternator, like it is on a 240D? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: No fuse I know of. Most likely the voltage regulator though. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/145d63de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
Found it on the web site. $29 and change. Thanks. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yea, its just screws into the back of the alternator. Remove the 2 screws, pull it out, and see if the brushes are worn down. -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/0a0ba4a5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nissens radiators?
OK, are these any good? Rusty? Need a radiator for my E300. I can buy a used one searching car=part.com which may or may not be OE for around 150-170 plus whatever shipping, so probably 20-30 more for shipping. Or, I can spend 220 for a new nissens from Rusty. Im almost leaning toward the new one but wondered if those were any good. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nissens radiators?
I used them in my old 220D one of my old 240D's I also put one in one of the 123 bodies I owned but I don't remember which one. They worked great. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:00 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] Nissens radiators? OK, are these any good? Rusty? Need a radiator for my E300. I can buy a used one searching car=part.com which may or may not be OE for around 150-170 plus whatever shipping, so probably 20-30 more for shipping. Or, I can spend 220 for a new nissens from Rusty. Im almost leaning toward the new one but wondered if those were any good. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
If the slip rings aren't worm too badly, I clean them with a pencil eraser before installing the new brushes/regulator. Haven't had one that was too badly worn yet - KOW. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: Found it on the web site. $29 and change. Thanks. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea, its just screws into the back of the alternator. Remove the 2 screws, pull it out, and see if the brushes are worn down. -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/0a0ba4a5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos KD5NRO The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy Baron Manfred von Richthofen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/94140fa7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
Go one step further check the commutator rings for pitting. If they are then you are wasting your time replacing the regulator because the pitting will grind the new brushes down to nothing within 10K miles. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E issues Yea, its just screws into the back of the alternator. Remove the 2 screws, pull it out, and see if the brushes are worn down. Wonko the Sane wrote: Is that part of the alternator, like it is on a 240D? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: No fuse I know of. Most likely the voltage regulator though. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/14 5d63de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nissens radiators?
In my limited experience with used radiators, not one has been worth the money, even the $20 one I got from you. Just buy the new one and be done with it. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos KD5NRO The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy Baron Manfred von Richthofen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e7e8bb6e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nissens radiators?
I can not respond on the brand for M Benz, but I have had the three row nissens replacement for my 89 volvo 740. turbo for well over 250K with no problems. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: OK, are these any good? Rusty? Need a radiator for my E300. I can buy a used one searching car=part.com which may or may not be OE for around 150-170 plus whatever shipping, so probably 20-30 more for shipping. Or, I can spend 220 for a new nissens from Rusty. Im almost leaning toward the new one but wondered if those were any good. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/681853c4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
A very long time ago, one if the pieces of avionics equipment I had to maintain and repair (and I can't remember exactly what it was or what it did) at CGAS Cape Cod had brushes and commutator ring. I still have one of the white, square, somewhat-like-sandstone tools that I used to clean and polish the commutator. I've had no use for it for decades but kept it in my toolbox. Just checked -- it is still there, with the business end ground down to a nice curve. Still about 3 long, so lots of life left on it. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: Go one step further check the commutator rings for pitting. If they are then you are wasting your time replacing the regulator because the pitting will grind the new brushes down to nothing within 10K miles. -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/2fdd8464/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
Yep and mounts the same way. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E issues Is that part of the alternator, like it is on a 240D? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: No fuse I know of. Most likely the voltage regulator though. -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/52 579ce6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Chrysler Update
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124157578117190427.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Colleagues in Alms The NZ government is reviewing the way taxes are levied on diesel sales. And not before time. We have a hugely cumbersome system called Road User Charges (RUC) designed to apportion the cost of maintaining roads fairly among mobile diesel users. Owners of stationary diesel plant don't have to pay the tax. Unlike petrol users who pay their tax at the pump, we diesel users have to buy their tax separately, usually at the end of long queues at post offices. We are levied in advance on distance travelled and the fully laden weight of our vehicles. As you can imagine, multi-axle trucks pay big money because they do more damage to our roads. My 300TD is in the 3-tonne class. For 3107 miles (5000 km), I pay $NZ190. Believe it or not, that includes a bloody service fee of $10. A fee to pay to a tax?!! Once I calculate the tax paid per mile travelled, the pump-price differential between petrol and diesel ** closes very significantly. If, as it does sometimes, the differential vanishes altogether, the only economic benefit of running a diesel becomes the longer distances travelled per litre. So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ** [NZ pump prices today (urban centres) -- $0.99c / ltr diesel; $1.55c / ltr 91 octane petrol ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More from Chrysler
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) How's your diesel taxed?
So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Per-gallon pump tax here in the US of A. There are additional annual weight fees for pickup trucks and larger, at least in the State of Washington, regardless of fuel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More from Chrysler
://www.chryslerrestructuring.comwww.chryslerrestructuring.com to get the details on all motions and documents that have been filed in court. Once more, thank you for your sacrifices, which have helped lay the groundwork for the swift completion of this process that will enable us to emerge as a vibrant company with bright, long-term prospects. Bob Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/e 4b79118/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
IIRC, we pay 24.3 cents per gallon federal excise tax for diesel and 18.3 cents for gasoline. That's on top of any state and local fees/taxes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Ours will probably be worse than yours once Obama gets some ideas from the more advanced socialist nations, but in the meantime the fuel is taxed per gallon by the Feds and the states at whatever usurious rate they decide to set. You fill your tank, pay whatever $/gal and some amount of that is tax. We'll probably have to buy the tax stamps at the vehicle registry, or maybe the universal health care office instead of the post office, just to increase the agony. The taxman don't like the veggie oil crowd cause they pay no taxes on whatever they brew or pour in their tanks. Enough of a fringe element now that they are sorta under the radar but they better watch out. The current controversy is how to tax the environmentally-pure (or displaced-emissions) electrics and hybrids since they don't pay fuel tax (which is supposed to go into highway funds, yeah right). Taxes on them ought to push them even further out of the economic balance, but there will probably be offsets/tax credits (money taken from the wealthy more of their fair share) to make them look better and to force them upon a public that by and large does not want them. I will leave the irony analysis on all that up to the reader. --R Euan wrote: Colleagues in Alms The NZ government is reviewing the way taxes are levied on diesel sales. And not before time. We have a hugely cumbersome system called Road User Charges (RUC) designed to apportion the cost of maintaining roads fairly among mobile diesel users. Owners of stationary diesel plant don't have to pay the tax. Unlike petrol users who pay their tax at the pump, we diesel users have to buy their tax separately, usually at the end of long queues at post offices. We are levied in advance on distance travelled and the fully laden weight of our vehicles. As you can imagine, multi-axle trucks pay big money because they do more damage to our roads. My 300TD is in the 3-tonne class. For 3107 miles (5000 km), I pay $NZ190. Believe it or not, that includes a bloody service fee of $10. A fee to pay to a tax?!! Once I calculate the tax paid per mile travelled, the pump-price differential between petrol and diesel ** closes very significantly. If, as it does sometimes, the differential vanishes altogether, the only economic benefit of running a diesel becomes the longer distances travelled per litre. So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ** [NZ pump prices today (urban centres) -- $0.99c / ltr diesel; $1.55c / ltr 91 octane petrol ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
Rick Knoble wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Here's what the 2003 TSB said: You have access to ALLDATA? No, somebody on Saturnalia forums quoted the TSB and I googled it. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Here in Iowa, we pay about 48 cents per US gallon (128 fl. oz. vs 160 fl. oz. for a imperial gallon) for Diesel road use taxes. However, a lot of this gets diverted into the general fund, and a lot of federal bucks are used to bribe states into complying with stupidity, like the old national 55 mph speed limit. (jimmaye cahtah's brain*art). We also pay a registration fee per vehicle. It is based on some formula of weight and list price and year. So a new big car costs hundreds of bucks each year, and old, light cars cost less. Back in the 70s, a 190Dc was down to $13.50 a year. Currently, I have a 124 that is down to $32.50 a year, and another that is $45. The only difference? The expensive one, I have owned longer! (so it should be cheaper) This year, in the gummits never ending quest to reach deeper into our pockets, and not being satisfied with an approximately 50% combined tax burden, the state raised the minimum fee to $50 a year. The last I knew, Wisconsin had an Antique license plate that you paid $25 once, and you could drive it anywhere, any time for as long as you owned the car.. While I was buying license plate stickers a couple of weeks ago, the county treasurer's office politely told me that Iowa now has an antique car license $25 a year and you can only drive directly to and from shows or educational events. I have been around the state snoopers long enough to know they will be laying for you if you have the gall to stop at a drive in for a sandwich, or even a gas station on the way to or from the show. No thanks! It is safer to pay the 45 bucks and not get a $150 ticket from an overzealous snooper. I plan to license the 240D in WI this summer. and will move any 124 diesels I own up there in 2012. At 08:59 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Colleagues in Alms The NZ government is reviewing the way taxes are levied on diesel sales. And not before time. We have a hugely cumbersome system called Road User Charges (RUC) designed to apportion the cost of maintaining roads fairly among mobile diesel users. Owners of stationary diesel plant don't have to pay the tax. Unlike petrol users who pay their tax at the pump, we diesel users have to buy their tax separately, usually at the end of long queues at post offices. We are levied in advance on distance travelled and the fully laden weight of our vehicles. As you can imagine, multi-axle trucks pay big money because they do more damage to our roads. My 300TD is in the 3-tonne class. For 3107 miles (5000 km), I pay $NZ190. Believe it or not, that includes a bloody service fee of $10. A fee to pay to a tax?!! Once I calculate the tax paid per mile travelled, the pump-price differential between petrol and diesel ** closes very significantly. If, as it does sometimes, the differential vanishes altogether, the only economic benefit of running a diesel becomes the longer distances travelled per litre. So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ** [NZ pump prices today (urban centres) -- $0.99c / ltr diesel; $1.55c / ltr 91 octane petrol ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
I forgot to add that off-road Diesel for tractors, crawlers, stationary engines, bonfires, etc. has no road taxes, if you can find a place to buy it tax free when you need it. At 08:59 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Colleagues in Alms The NZ government is reviewing the way taxes are levied on diesel sales. And not before time. We have a hugely cumbersome system called Road User Charges (RUC) designed to apportion the cost of maintaining roads fairly among mobile diesel users. Owners of stationary diesel plant don't have to pay the tax. Unlike petrol users who pay their tax at the pump, we diesel users have to buy their tax separately, usually at the end of long queues at post offices. We are levied in advance on distance travelled and the fully laden weight of our vehicles. As you can imagine, multi-axle trucks pay big money because they do more damage to our roads. My 300TD is in the 3-tonne class. For 3107 miles (5000 km), I pay $NZ190. Believe it or not, that includes a bloody service fee of $10. A fee to pay to a tax?!! Once I calculate the tax paid per mile travelled, the pump-price differential between petrol and diesel ** closes very significantly. If, as it does sometimes, the differential vanishes altogether, the only economic benefit of running a diesel becomes the longer distances travelled per litre. So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ** [NZ pump prices today (urban centres) -- $0.99c / ltr diesel; $1.55c / ltr 91 octane petrol ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Loren Faeth wrote: The last I knew, Wisconsin had an Antique license plate that you paid $25 once, and you could drive it anywhere, any time for as long as you owned the car.. While I was buying license plate stickers a couple of weeks ago, the county treasurer's office politely told me that Iowa now has an antique car license $25 a year and you can only drive directly to and from shows or educational events. Michigan is sort of in between. The historic vehicle plate (25 years, so my 300SD qualifies but my 2.3-16 and 190 turbo do not) allows you to go to the show, but it also allows you to go out cruising on Saturday night, or take the Mrs out for an anniversary dinner. The gray area is wide enough that pretty much anything short of driving to work daily would probably be OK. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Euan wrote: So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Here in the USA, each state (political sub-entity in the country) does it differently. And heavy trucks pay more. I believe every state has some added at the pump. This is all us light-duty users need to pay. The big trucks are different. Some states make them pay based on miles already driven in the state. Others is anticipated miles in the state. Some its calculated some other way. Some states have joined together for the sake of fuel tax collection. And it can change from year to year. My data is really 10 years old - 'cause it's been that long since such info matter to my daily existence. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More from Chrysler
I don't consider mexico to be part of the civilized world... I feel safe travelling anywhere in Italy. I don't feel safe travelling anywhere in Mexico without native, and preferably Federales protection. (Bribed of course) At 09:26 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Second most corrupt - Mexico is ahead of them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Secret message for Curtis Raymond
I forget what one of these weighs, but I think it's about five or six 240Ds. http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/grd/1156958302.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More from Chrysler
I've been to both countries and Mexico is definitely more civilized than Italy. Actually, Italy is the poorest, most dismal country I've been to in Europe. I've not been to Spain but I hear its worse. I'm talking about the real country, not the propped up tourist traps we THINK these countries are all about. Stay in the tourist areas and you leave with a very grand view of Italy, Mexico, Jamaica, etc, etc. Go too far away without some local help and you might find yourself dead over an American $20.00 bill. We Americans have a very twisted view of the world! BTW, if you can bribe someone in a poor country for protection then someone else can pay him $20.00 more than you are offering to turn against you. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More from Chrysler I don't consider mexico to be part of the civilized world... I feel safe travelling anywhere in Italy. I don't feel safe travelling anywhere in Mexico without native, and preferably Federales protection. (Bribed of course) At 09:26 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Second most corrupt - Mexico is ahead of them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM
yeah, well, don't think i'm saying that mercedes is the alternative. they too have screwed their legacy into oblivion and have long ago decided to become the new jaguar. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: Kind of like the Mercedes 380 timing chain and Mercedes 300D head and Mercedes 350D rod bender failures??? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/6/09 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM yeah. happens anytime with no warning. saved a dime for the general though and gave em a few more good laughs. yup, good times in detroit! let's have another martini! i won't miss em On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: no, it's not wear. it's lack of oiling and sudden catastrophic failure So a chain link seizes and then snaps, rather than just getting sloppier until it finally fails? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009050 6/e395c0ca/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009050%0A6/e395c0ca/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/3e914bf9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nissens radiators?
i've always bought behrs, but nissens has a really good reputation. i sell a lot fewer of them than back in the day though. same as with boge shocks. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: I used them in my old 220D one of my old 240D's I also put one in one of the 123 bodies I owned but I don't remember which one. They worked great. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ 256-656-1924 http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/%0A256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:00 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] Nissens radiators? OK, are these any good? Rusty? Need a radiator for my E300. I can buy a used one searching car=part.com which may or may not be OE for around 150-170 plus whatever shipping, so probably 20-30 more for shipping. Or, I can spend 220 for a new nissens from Rusty. Im almost leaning toward the new one but wondered if those were any good. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/d1ac8e67/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E issues
your engine number is on a plate, but it can also generally be looked up via your vin. also, you can often guess which one you need. for example, if your car is an 86, it's pretty likely you need an early one. an argument can also be made that you can mount any alternator you please if you take the trouble to rig it up. for example, my 280CE has a 100AMP alternator off of a top of the line chevy cavalier. PO had a big radio put in and needed the electricity. works just fine. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: The 300E died while the wife was driving it today. Fortunately, she was only two blocks from the house and friends pushed her home. I arrived home from work this afternoon to find the hood up and a battery charger slapped on -- charging. Brother in law, Jeff (who is a real mechanic, unlike me, who is a shade tree mechanic) told Debbie to tell me it was either an alternator or a fuse. Is there any such fuse on a 300E? Second question. BuyMBParts web site shows two alternators, a 60 amp and an 80 amp. Difference is based on engine range. Where do I get this engine range info? Is it by VIN, by year, or a plate somewhere on the engine? -- The only absolute is that everything is relative. --Henri de Saint Simon -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090506/6ceda8b2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090507/68148136/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How's your diesel taxed?
Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com writes: I forgot to add that off-road Diesel for tractors, crawlers, stationary engines, bonfires, etc. has no road taxes, if you can find a place to buy it tax free when you need it. I once rented a small John Deere tractor with a front-loader and yard box for some landscaping work. While trailering it back to the rental shop, I stopped to fuel it up. I was in a fairly rural area and they did have an off-road pump which I used, but when I went in to pay they asked me for my tax number which I did not have and so they charged me the tax anyway. My pointing out that the tractor was clearly an off road vehicle and in fact was sitting on a trailer had no impact. Allan At 08:59 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Colleagues in Alms The NZ government is reviewing the way taxes are levied on diesel sales. And not before time. We have a hugely cumbersome system called Road User Charges (RUC) designed to apportion the cost of maintaining roads fairly among mobile diesel users. Owners of stationary diesel plant don't have to pay the tax. Unlike petrol users who pay their tax at the pump, we diesel users have to buy their tax separately, usually at the end of long queues at post offices. We are levied in advance on distance travelled and the fully laden weight of our vehicles. As you can imagine, multi-axle trucks pay big money because they do more damage to our roads. My 300TD is in the 3-tonne class. For 3107 miles (5000 km), I pay $NZ190. Believe it or not, that includes a bloody service fee of $10. A fee to pay to a tax?!! Once I calculate the tax paid per mile travelled, the pump-price differential between petrol and diesel ** closes very significantly. If, as it does sometimes, the differential vanishes altogether, the only economic benefit of running a diesel becomes the longer distances travelled per litre. So, how are diesel taxes levied in your neck of the wood? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ** [NZ pump prices today (urban centres) -- $0.99c / ltr diesel; $1.55c / ltr 91 octane petrol ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
