Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Yeah, mao's 240D went better the further it climbed over 70, MB's are designed to be driven fast, even the Diesels like a good fang now and then. Just what I was thinking... I wouldn't have thought there was a slushbox 240D anywhere that needed an Italian tuneup (since they pretty much get one at every green light)---but if there is, it's this guy's. The one time I drove a W123 240D, I remember it purring right along at 75 or 80 on a flat freeway just fine... it just took a while to get there! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Vanagon Diesel
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Or a Subaru flat-four or flat-six. Subaru engines go with Vanagons like chocolate and peanut butter. SVX engine? Or maybe WRX? SVXs are enough of a cult item that using the engine of a defunct one somewhere else seems wrong. WRX Imprezas, however, are a dime a dozen (at least in the Pacific NW) and I bet an awful lot of them get totaled with perfectly good drivetrains... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory options (which sold for as little as $6k in the late summer of 2005). There was a factory A/C accessory parts kit for those who wanted A/C but didn't want to pay for the Aveo LS. I believe it was equivalent to installing the factory A/C from a parts car into a car that never had A/C. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Yes, that's right. I used to cruise my 79 240D slush at 80-85 on I 95 all the time-I always said it was a good mid lane car-the OM 602 turbo is fast lane car. Now entrance ramps on an incline are another matter-the stick 240D handles those quiet well. All 240D's require a bit of skill and a basic understanding of gravity-esp. while cruising. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto (Gone) 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- Just what I was thinking... I wouldn't have thought there was a slushbox 240D anywhere that needed an Italian tuneup (since they pretty much get one at every green light)---but if there is, it's this guy's. The one time I drove a W123 240D, I remember it purring right along at 75 or 80 on a flat freeway just fine... it just took a while to get there! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
I'll have to check out our local NAPA stores, I still haven't found a decent source/price since Wal-Mart dropped it. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:47 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I'll have to check out our local NAPA stores, I still haven't found a decent source/price since Wal-Mart dropped it. I haven't bought it at WalMart since the last time I saw it for $19.88/5 qt about three years ago. Lately I've been paying $15-17 a gallon at a regional supermarket chain, but they don't have 15w50, so I buy 5w30 for the 'American' cars and 5w40 for the Mbz and lawn equipment. I really would prefer 15w50 for the air cooled stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
Yesterday I tried to use Wal-Mart's website to order oil for in-store pick-up, but the only automotive stuff offered seems to be tires and GPS. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:47 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and maybe 4in long that will slide in the slots on the side will do it. --R On 8/6/2010 9:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#radio look under radio for the Becker tool, click on picture link on right side. Looks like the part number has changed, now 000 589 88 63 00. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and maybe 4in long that will slide in the slots on the side will do it. --R On 8/6/2010 9:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
You can make some out of some sheet metal scraps in about 2 min. --R On 8/6/2010 10:20 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#radio look under radio for the Becker tool, click on picture link on right side. Looks like the part number has changed, now 000 589 88 63 00. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and maybe 4in long that will slide in the slots on the side will do it. --R On 8/6/2010 9:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is fighting for this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAMSECTION=US Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Sure the seats aren't out of a Camry or Volvo or something? Remind me of my V70. I've got a legit 115 rear seat. And two fronts, but Kaleb has called the seat bottoms already, if he'll tell me where to send them. And carpets and the rest of the interior, for a short time... so if someone buys this and wants pieces let me know quick. I have this same compressor on both the 115 240D and the '77 123 300D. Long lived is good, but I'll probably pull it from the 240D for spare now that I've noticed it is the same. Anything special to do when storing compressors? -Tim On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So it looks like he has some sort of 124 seats in the front and 140 seats crammed in the back. Wow. Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it. Wonder if everything works includes the heater blower? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
The DMV won't believe you got it for less than $7500. Yes, I've heard that WA state DMV has certain revenue enhancement procedures in place. Perhaps Mr. Cathey (or Gump's owner) could elaborate. Yes, a bill of sale is not adequate to establish value. The DMV has a form that you both sign, use that instead of a bill of sale. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Translation: The engine is all carboned up and I expect it to stay that way. An Italian tune up takes DAYS to work its magic. I've been driving Dwight's '78 240D hard on my 60 mile daily commute. Its opened up a LOT in the last 4 days, hardly the same car now. Much more peppy, starts easier, idles much smoother. I should hire myself out as an MB diesel tune up specialist. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:00:48 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Message-ID: aanlkti=cz131b8xpl7csgvgdmwehmdiektxscbn6i...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1875715587.html This is not a fast car. It was made to do 65 and under. I NEVER have taken it over that and you shouldn?t either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of old diesel VWs...
Thats a great price on the Rabbit, a $50 roller paint job and it'd be a pretty good ride. It seems to me like 80% of old Rabbits have the red interior... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:05:13 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of old diesel VWs... Message-ID: aanlktimmsq81slofbbc9jkrakbtwbit3vwg_p_=kn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 '80 Mad Max Rabbit: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1880666051.html '89 Jetta project: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1873394785.html Restored Rabbit pickup: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1871271395.html Westfalia Vanagon for a little more $$ than the one Allan posted: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1878641606.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
How does the York in the early 123 compare? I like the look of the compressor up right where you can get at it... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:59:24 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: 13856bcf-fab7-4964-bdd8-8f7e9e02a...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The W108 system was a ThermoKing that used an R type compressor from GM, blower was in the passenger side kick panel. Universally referrred to as inadequate, mainly because it has very poor air circulation. The evaporator is fine, and should freeze you out, but the air flow is best described as anemic. The W115/114 system uses a York compressor and a dual squirrel cage fan behind the evaporator. When properly charged, they will freeze you, even at idle. Almost stalls a 220D though. I converted mine and it worked pretty well for the few months the car ran after I charged it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
Good price, wish I had a NAPA handy. I wonder if I can get the 'Zone to match it? I'll be doing an oil change on the '78 tomorrow so we'll be able to match that against the fixed odo which I'll also be doing tomorrow... -Curt Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:47:27 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale Message-ID: 001401cb355d$25303ca0$6f90b5...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
Yep, just cleaned out the NAPA next to work, 15 qts of M1 0w-40, will hold me for about 4 months. Guy at the counter thinks this sale will last until the end of the month, so if they re-stock I'll hit'em again. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:44 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale Good price, wish I had a NAPA handy. I wonder if I can get the 'Zone to match it? I'll be doing an oil change on the '78 tomorrow so we'll be able to match that against the fixed odo which I'll also be doing tomorrow... -Curt Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:47:27 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale Message-ID: 001401cb355d$25303ca0$6f90b5...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
I guess with all the extra time on their hands, now that they're laid off, they want to ensure a good supply of their pills to help pass the time. Lawyers really do try their best these days, to attach discrimination to pretty much any and every case they can, don't they. It could be argued the decision effects women too. Whether in a positive or negative way I'm not sure, you'd have to ask the women. hee hee. Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 10:50, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is fighting for this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAMSECTION=US Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
I do believe you are correct, after looking at the picture and the diagram in the FSM. If I'm successful, the $10 you've saved me will go into the kitty for the lunch I owe you... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 You can make some out of some sheet metal scraps in about 2 min. --R On 8/6/2010 10:20 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#radio look under radio for the Becker tool, click on picture link on right side. Looks like the part number has changed, now 000 589 88 63 00. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and maybe 4in long that will slide in the slots on the side will do it. --R On 8/6/2010 9:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
Ed wrote: It could be argued the decision effects women too. DBV - tell us if this is true? I see subject line in my spam folder - female viagra? I have zero interest in spam or female viagra, so on two counts, zero items in the spam folder get seen, except if google mail has put an item in there wrongly. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001
Hendrik wrote: My theory is that the rack and pinion steering in the more modern Mercs is what causes the lack of soul. SNIP with no SUVs but used to have a real 4x4 An interesting concept. So, you like the recirc ball steering system better? It would be interesting to drive two similarly sized vehicles to see what the difference is. I know the VeeDub Dasher I had for years was rack and pinion. My first trip in slush snow showed me that system and front drive gave me zero confidence. Zooming along, and clipped the mountable center median curb and spun 360 into the other lane - nobody there, so drove on, a bit shaken and hopefully wiser. Other than that, I have zero knowledge of rack and pinion versus recirc ball. Explain further - or are you pulling our leg, as in the rusty 240D you drove all around Swissconsin? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. I'm talking 1972. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
I got the subject line, Here's something worth fighting about Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 12:53, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Ed wrote: It could be argued the decision effects women too. DBV - tell us if this is true? I see subject line in my spam folder - female viagra? I have zero interest in spam or female viagra, so on two counts, zero items in the spam folder get seen, except if google mail has put an item in there wrongly. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is fighting for this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAMSECTION=US It does make you wonder what their priorities are Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I know I've seen mid 60's 200 Series On Aug 6, 2010 10:15 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sorry... I'm talking 1972. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go t... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About
I waiting for the caption in the paper once the trial is over, It Was a Hard Won Case For the Teachers hee hee Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 13:23, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is fighting for this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAMSECTION=US It does make you wonder what their priorities are Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in Ontario. While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever. As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be mailed within Canada. Now sure if that applies to export too, or just within certain provinces. I was told once, that owning Cuban cigars isn't illegal in the US, only buying or selling them. I think anything pre-embargo is ok, but that stuff is probably crazy expensive now. A few years back, I still have a couple of REAL Cuban Davidoff sticks in my humidor. Try finding those today!! hee hee If you do buy cigars from Canada, that you are allowed to take back with you, see if you can claim the tobacco tax when you get home, and get a rebate from the Canadian gov. I know with some of the taxes, friends have claimed them upon arriving home, and received a cheque. As the taxes are intended for our domestic market, might be worth looking into. The markup on tobacco is very high here! Now, that might not be such a good idea if you're submitting a stub for Cuban cigars, and the refund is going to the US. ;-) What Canadian spirits are you interested in? Ed 300E * Re: cigars. What you do is unband the Cubans, put the Cuban bands in your wallet, reband them using a dot of glue with something US legal, and when you get back home, put the proper bands back on the Cubans. You will have to take notes on which cigars are which so yoiu can reunite them with their proper labels. The chances are very remote that you will encounter a customs agent who is such an afficionado that they can tell a rebanded Cuban on sight. Just won't happen. So, just march your cigars right thru customs and wave them in their faces, meaning their eyes will immediately glaze over. Mix in a handful of non Cubans--even ones you can get cheaper in the States--just to fog the picture even more. This is, ahem, just a theory, of course :) Re: Canadian Liquor. Brother Todd (who has gone inactive on the MBZ list) and I were raised by a father whose favorite whiskey was Crown Royal, and adopted his prejudices. Now, i know what people say about Crown Royal--that it is the Budweiser of Canadian Whiskeys, but I don't care. I am not interested in being a Canadian whiskey snob--call me a rube--I like Crown Royal. For decades there was just one Crown Royal, and recently the distiller has produced some variants. In fact, just this summer, CR announced it just launched Crown Royal Black, which is supposed to be a darker, richer variant of Old Reliable. It is only to be marketed in Canada, at least for the time being, according to their web page. Now THAT is something I would like to get my American paws on... DBV, mercedes list information minister 450SL 74 E320 95 99 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
I could do that, too. We could start a corp. or something; you do the North part; I'll do the South part. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Translation: The engine is all carboned up and I expect it to stay that way. An Italian tune up takes DAYS to work its magic. I've been driving Dwight's '78 240D hard on my 60 mile daily commute. Its opened up a LOT in the last 4 days, hardly the same car now. Much more peppy, starts easier, idles much smoother. I should hire myself out as an MB diesel tune up specialist. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:00:48 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Message-ID: aanlkti=cz131b8xpl7csgvgdmwehmdiektxscbn6i...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1875715587.html This is not a fast car. It was made to do 65 and under. I NEVER have taken it over that and you shouldn?t either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
So, what's the e-mail address of the guy with the slow 240D; I'm wondering if he still has it. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D I could do that, too. We could start a corp. or something; you do the North part; I'll do the South part. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Translation: The engine is all carboned up and I expect it to stay that way. An Italian tune up takes DAYS to work its magic. I've been driving Dwight's '78 240D hard on my 60 mile daily commute. Its opened up a LOT in the last 4 days, hardly the same car now. Much more peppy, starts easier, idles much smoother. I should hire myself out as an MB diesel tune up specialist. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:00:48 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Message-ID: aanlkti=cz131b8xpl7csgvgdmwehmdiektxscbn6i...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1875715587.html This is not a fast car. It was made to do 65 and under. I NEVER have taken it over that and you shouldn?t either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:06 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, what's the e-mail address of the guy with the slow 240D; I'm wondering if he still has it. sale-ycxb3-1875715...@craigslist.org ---until the ad expires and he posts a new one with a more reasonable price (though that doesn't seem likely given the guy's attitude). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory options (which sold for as little as $6k in the late summer of 2005). There was a factory A/C accessory parts kit for those who wanted A/C but didn't want to pay for the Aveo LS. I believe it was equivalent to installing the factory A/C from a parts car into a car that never had A/C. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale
thats why I just gave up and use dino oil. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
this is what you need http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUDI-VW-MERCEDES-STEREO-RADIO-REMOVAL-TOOLS-SET-KEY-/390224088137?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] York AC Compressors
So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the whole thing is sort of an add-on to the systems in the car but it does not look like they had to patch it in somehow. I believe it has always been there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors
It seems like I remember the deal with those being there was some valve in there that would stick open so it would not compress. R A Bennell wrote: So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C? And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels? I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought it kind of odd the way they were doing it in 2005. At least the SV package in the Cavalier and Sunfire included CD player and A/C in 2005. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors
I have new for $295 or reman for $195 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] York AC Compressors So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Every 115 I have seen has the same deal, identical. If it was dealer installed, I would think you could tell, and it would be just a little different on each one. Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. R A Bennell wrote: I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the whole thing is sort of an add-on to the systems in the car but it does not look like they had to patch it in somehow. I believe it has always been there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3054 - Release Date: 08/06/10 02:37:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
yea, I have dealers we service right now that have those cars with no AC at all in them. In fact, there is even a cobalt that does not have AC. I do not know about the add on kit but it would not surprise me. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C? And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels? I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought it kind of odd the way they were doing it in 2005. At least the SV package in the Cavalier and Sunfire included CD player and A/C in 2005. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3054 - Release Date: 08/06/10 02:37:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors
That is not bad at all. What else would I need? Receiver -dryer about it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors I have new for $295 or reman for $195 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] York AC Compressors So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors
I know a lot of guys pulled the old York's off their porsches, and updated them. Probably other makes and models too, so i would imagine lots of rebuildable cores out there. $200 for a rebuilt one sounds like a pretty good deal. Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 15:47, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: That is not bad at all. What else would I need? Receiver -dryer about it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors I have new for $295 or reman for $195 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] York AC Compressors So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors
Yup Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors That is not bad at all. What else would I need? Receiver -dryer about it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors I have new for $295 or reman for $195 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] York AC Compressors So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even cool). Gauges say equal pressure on both sides. Something like 70# if my memory works. It was a year or more ago when we last tried to get it going and it was my brother in law who was doing it so my memory might be faulty. I should have written it down somehwere. Do these things have a valve setup in the top similar to an air compressor? Thin metal flap type thing? If so, that might be what gave up. Randy in Winnipeg where it is warm for a spell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
j...@windwireless.net j...@windwireless.net writes: The DMV won't believe you got it for less than $7500. Yes, I've heard that WA state DMV has certain revenue enhancement procedures in place. Perhaps Mr. Cathey (or Gump's owner) could elaborate. Yes, a bill of sale is not adequate to establish value. The DMV has a form that you both sign, use that instead of a bill of sale. In Indiana, to transfer title you pay sales tax based on the bill of sale or stated sale price. You also pay a yearly tax based on the value of the vehicle (determined by vehicle model and age, not sale price) which is part of the yearly registration renewal. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
I'll have to provide you a few more money-saving ideas so you can buy me that lunch --R On 8/6/2010 12:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I do believe you are correct, after looking at the picture and the diagram in the FSM. If I'm successful, the $10 you've saved me will go into the kitty for the lunch I owe you... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 You can make some out of some sheet metal scraps in about 2 min. --R On 8/6/2010 10:20 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#radio look under radio for the Becker tool, click on picture link on right side. Looks like the part number has changed, now 000 589 88 63 00. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124 If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and maybe 4in long that will slide in the slots on the side will do it. --R On 8/6/2010 9:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse on the back of the radio. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Allan Streib wrote: In Indiana, to transfer title you pay sales tax based on the bill of sale or stated sale price. You also pay a yearly tax based on the value of the vehicle (determined by vehicle model and age, not sale price) which is part of the yearly registration renewal. Same here in Michigan. Our vehicle property tax goes down for three years and then stays there, with a 3 year old car paying half of new, and a 24 year old car also paying half of new. At 25 years, you've got a pretty good incentive to license and insure it as a historic vehicle. If I were to license my 16v normally, the annual license fee would be more than the sales tax from when I bought it. So every year I license my 1977 Saab for $32, and then pay $8 to transfer the plate to the 2.3-16. Saves me about $95 that way, and the state has to give me a new plate every year. I don't make the rules, I just play by them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: this is what you need http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUDI-VW-MERCEDES-STEREO-RADIO-REMOVAL-TOOLS-SET-KEY-/390224088137?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools Thanks for the link, Kaleb. I am as cheap as anyone else here, but $2.50 including shipping is definitely cheaper than the value of the time I'd spend making my own... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Yeah, it's called excise tax. Along with county wheel tax, etc., etc. Amazingly, it's less than it used to be, at least the way I recall it. There are (legal) ways around this, too. I just bought my son's car last month and only paid $41.00 to put it on the road (not including the 7% sales tax.) That's title and registration. In September it gets titled in Florida for less than that. Dan --- On Fri, 8/6/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 4:54 PM j...@windwireless.net j...@windwireless.net writes: The DMV won't believe you got it for less than $7500. Yes, I've heard that WA state DMV has certain revenue enhancement procedures in place. Perhaps Mr. Cathey (or Gump's owner) could elaborate. Yes, a bill of sale is not adequate to establish value. The DMV has a form that you both sign, use that instead of a bill of sale. In Indiana, to transfer title you pay sales tax based on the bill of sale or stated sale price. You also pay a yearly tax based on the value of the vehicle (determined by vehicle model and age, not sale price) which is part of the yearly registration renewal. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] factory yes
The W116 had factory installed CLIMATE CONTROL, not manual AC Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001
FWD is very different on ice and snow -- slides at right angles to the front wheels. Very predictable, but VERY different. I don't see how there is a difference between recirculating ball and rack and pinion steering -- both systems move the wheels . Unless the RB is variable ratio like GM used to use, they are both linear. I've had both and don't remember a significant difference. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
W115/114 /8 was introduced in 1968, and the AC was indeed installed at the dealer. Lots of stories about saving time by bending back (and breaking) the sides of the console to shove the bits in without pulling it as they were supposed to, leading to failures later. All MBs were station built up the to W123, not on an assembly line, so dealer installation isn't really that bit a deal -- it just moved the work to the dealer's shop, where it was cheaper. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001
I've always associated rack and pinoin with greater feedback or road feel than recirculating ball, but then, I was comparing an MG with a 220D. Probably more weight related than how the front wheels are turned. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: FWD is very different on ice and snow -- slides at right angles to the front wheels. Very predictable, but VERY different. I don't see how there is a difference between recirculating ball and rack and pinion steering -- both systems move the wheels . Unless the RB is variable ratio like GM used to use, they are both linear. I've had both and don't remember a significant difference. Peter -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. Dwight Giles Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:34 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Translation: The engine is all carboned up and I expect it to stay that way. An Italian tune up takes DAYS to work its magic. I've been driving Dwight's '78 240D hard on my 60 mile daily commute. Its opened up a LOT in the last 4 days, hardly the same car now. Much more peppy, starts easier, idles much smoother. I should hire myself out as an MB diesel tune up specialist. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. But if you do it to a Vanagon it blows up? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Must not be a REAL diesel then? Don't know -I have blown up a couple VW gassers of the 60's and 70's. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. But if you do it to a Vanagon it blows up? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. The clincher. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. But if you do it to a Vanagon it blows up? Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of that era is just not a robust engine when you're asking it pull around a 4100 lb vehicle. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001
Well I must be used to driving recirc ball but seem to remember the last time I drove a rack and peanut set up, it just did not feel the same. Hendrik who only has recirculating balls Mountain Man wrote: Hendrik wrote: My theory is that the rack and pinion steering in the more modern Mercs is what causes the lack of soul. SNIP with no SUVs but used to have a real 4x4 An interesting concept. So, you like the recirc ball steering system better? It would be interesting to drive two similarly sized vehicles to see what the difference is. I know the VeeDub Dasher I had for years was rack and pinion. My first trip in slush snow showed me that system and front drive gave me zero confidence. Zooming along, and clipped the mountable center median curb and spun 360 into the other lane - nobody there, so drove on, a bit shaken and hopefully wiser. Other than that, I have zero knowledge of rack and pinion versus recirc ball. Explain further - or are you pulling our leg, as in the rusty 240D you drove all around Swissconsin? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
Allan Streib wrote: Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of that era is just not a robust engine when you're asking it pull around a 4100 lb vehicle. Don't you mean 'push'? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
The presence of the parts in the manual does not preclude it being a dealer installed option, it just means it's official Benz. All the AC stuff was made in the US, after all, why ship it to Germany and back again? They all look the same because they are official Benz parts, installed by official dealers using Benz instructions, just like all their cars look pretty much the same, assembled from official parts by Benz workers. Why on earth would they look different? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of that era is just not a robust engine when you're asking it pull around a 4100 lb vehicle. Don't you mean 'push'? My parents drove one of the early 30-hp Microbuses all through the '60s, and I seem to remember them talking about going over mountain passes in the slow lane backwards because reverse was geared lower than 1st. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
