Re: [MBZ] 107 Upper ball joint
So do you have UCAs for sale from your parts stash? LilQ's site sez NLA for the upper ball joint. Seems like I just replaced those on the 380 SL... I see from my records that this was late in 2008. Maybe not that recently, after all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Oz shock jock knows who bombed Boston
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/bombings-a-student-plot-says-alan-jones/story-e6frg996-1226622574181 Although it most likely was a jihady, right wing, gun loving student group, working closely with the IRA. Hendrik who does not listen to AJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT A shipload of power
http://videos2view.net/more-power.htm Might ditch the old KE jet system. Hendrik who produces gas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
While pressure cooker controls would be helpful, their complete elimination would be more effective. Few people other than food faddists use them anymore, so their disappearance would hardly be noticed. Since these types of amateur bombs are nearly always a mixture of diesel fuel and fertilizer, banning these two noxious substances as well as pressure cookers should completely eliminate homegrown terrorism. Think of all the benefits the banning of diesel fuel would provide. Thousands of marriages would be saved since diesel widows would no longer spend their weekends sitting in front of the TV while their husbands worked on their diesel cars or sat at the computer discussing the merits of various lubricants. Replacing manufactured fertilizer with natural fertilizer (from horses and mules) could easily be accomplished since horses and mules would have already replaced diesel farm machinery. The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Should we enact some common sense pressure cooker controls to minimize this kind of violence? Some background checks on pressure cooker buyers? Some pressure cooker registration and licensing? I am thinking this would just be common sense. It could very easily be appended to the gun control legislation, and could protect us from this kind of bombing. Maybe we could get Elizabeth Warren, the new senator from Mass, to sponsor this? If we all sent her an email I am sure she would respond. --R On 4/16/13 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: A former militant communist says it looked like a gunpowder bomb (like a pipe bomb but bigger): I've been waiting for someone to claim responsibility for this evil madness. Various jihadi groups have disclaimed it, and the use of what appeared to be smallish, simple devices of ball bearings and what from the plume seemed to be a gunpowder burster is not their style, although the target certainly was -- a gathering of innocents making a suitable body count. CBS News says: A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that one of the explosive devices appears to have been placed in a metal pressure cooker (a metal kitchen pot with a locked down top) which had been placed in a black nylon bag or backpack. Investigators also found pieces of an electronic circuit board possibly indicating a timer was used in the detonation of the bomb. A law enforcement official told CBS News that the two bombs that exploded were made to look like discarded property. It is still unknown if one or both bombs were in garbage cans. One may have been on the sidewalk. The bombs were described as low explosive, but with anti-personnel packing. The official said there were apparently things like BB's, ball bearings and nails in the bombs. This is consistent with doctors reporting shrapnel pulled from victims. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT MB but of interest to the motoring heads
This is interesting if the claims are true http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-zm0z12amzroc.aspx#axzz2Qi5SEGke .. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net http://englishrussia.com/2013/04/14/soviet-steam-car-powered-with-wood-the-first-and-the-last/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5749 - Release Date: 04/16/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT MB but of interest to the motoring heads
I seem to recall a lengthy thread on wood gas a while back. My former business partner experimented with it and had all sorts of documentation on how to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is interesting if the claims are true http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-zm0z12amzroc.aspx#axzz2Qi5SEGke .. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
It would likely annoy Yum! Brands and some of their customers; likewise, it would impact Royal Farms. (Pressure-Fried Chicken anyone?) -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:42, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: While pressure cooker controls would be helpful, their complete elimination would be more effective. Few people other than food faddists use them anymore, so their disappearance would hardly be noticed. Since these types of amateur bombs are nearly always a mixture of diesel fuel and fertilizer, banning these two noxious substances as well as pressure cookers should completely eliminate homegrown terrorism. Think of all the benefits the banning of diesel fuel would provide. Thousands of marriages would be saved since diesel widows would no longer spend their weekends sitting in front of the TV while their husbands worked on their diesel cars or sat at the computer discussing the merits of various lubricants. Replacing manufactured fertilizer with natural fertilizer (from horses and mules) could easily be accomplished since horses and mules would have already replaced diesel farm machinery. The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Should we enact some common sense pressure cooker controls to minimize this kind of violence? Some background checks on pressure cooker buyers? Some pressure cooker registration and licensing? I am thinking this would just be common sense. It could very easily be appended to the gun control legislation, and could protect us from this kind of bombing. Maybe we could get Elizabeth Warren, the new senator from Mass, to sponsor this? If we all sent her an email I am sure she would respond. --R On 4/16/13 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: A former militant communist says it looked like a gunpowder bomb (like a pipe bomb but bigger): I've been waiting for someone to claim responsibility for this evil madness. Various jihadi groups have disclaimed it, and the use of what appeared to be smallish, simple devices of ball bearings and what from the plume seemed to be a gunpowder burster is not their style, although the target certainly was -- a gathering of innocents making a suitable body count. CBS News says: A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that one of the explosive devices appears to have been placed in a metal pressure cooker (a metal kitchen pot with a locked down top) which had been placed in a black nylon bag or backpack. Investigators also found pieces of an electronic circuit board possibly indicating a timer was used in the detonation of the bomb. A law enforcement official told CBS News that the two bombs that exploded were made to look like discarded property. It is still unknown if one or both bombs were in garbage cans. One may have been on the sidewalk. The bombs were described as low explosive, but with anti-personnel packing. The official said there were apparently things like BB's, ball bearings and nails in the bombs. This is consistent with doctors reporting shrapnel pulled from victims. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 Upper ball joint
Looks like the upper joint can be done without a press. Did you do the lowers also? Did the HF C type ball joint press work for the lowers? So do you have UCAs for sale from your parts stash? LilQ's site sez NLA for the upper ball joint. Seems like I just replaced those on the 380 SL... I see from my records that this was late in 2008. Maybe not that recently, after all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT MB but of interest to the motoring heads
This is interesting if the claims are true http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-zm0z12amzroc.aspx#axzz2Qi5SEGke Nothing new there. in the 40s, many gas engines in Germany were modified to use wood gas. In the USA, in the 40s, many tractors were modified to use wood gas. I have seen an extension publication from the 40s that had detailed instruction about how to do it. (Lawyers were not whack jobs then. Or at least the lawyer population was under control) In the Deutsches Museum in Munich, there is a big Mercedes Benz modified to run on woodgas during WWII. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 Upper ball joint
Looks like the upper joint can be done without a press. Did you do the lowers also? Did the HF C type ball joint press work for the lowers? No press, just an angle grinder and a wrench. The lowers were done by the shop, I didn't touch it. I _did_ do the lowers on the 190D using the HF press. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT MB but of interest to the motoring heads
This is especially interesting to me since his rig is homebuilt and uses few commerically manufactured components. For example, he uses hay for the filter. Without a very effective filter, tar can seize the pistons. (Don't ask me how I know.) Also, we have lots of wood fuel down here in West Central Florida; much of it just for the taking. He said he might sell plans eventually. If he does, I'll be tempted to buy a set, have some parts made, and install the system in my SILs 1996 150 Ford PU since he is thinking about buying a 2013 150 with some new type engine they are selling. As you point out, it's old technology and there are many plans available; but many don't work as well as the authors claim. If I built this rig, I would first go up to Alabama and see his rigs in action. Mother Earth has a pretty good reputation for publishing workable designs. Gerry This is interesting if the claims are true http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/wood-gas-zm0z12amzroc.aspx#axzz2Qi5SEGke Nothing new there. in the 40s, many gas engines in Germany were modified to use wood gas. In the USA, in the 40s, many tractors were modified to use wood gas. I have seen an extension publication from the 40s that had detailed instruction about how to do it. (Lawyers were not whack jobs then. Or at least the lawyer population was under control) In the Deutsches Museum in Munich, there is a big Mercedes Benz modified to run on woodgas during WWII. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5749 - Release Date: 04/16/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Returned mail: User unknown
The whole thing is really squirrely. I don't use the Gmail address for anything but to funnel all of my accounts into one, and give me the ability to send from it essentially spoofing the inbound account. That being said, I rarely use the account, and almost never for sending anything. I use my Verizon account for my domain email, which redirects to Verizon. The Gmail account never figures into it. On occasion I have mistakenly replied to the list from the Gmail account, but the few times that has happened I immediately get a message from the list software telling me I'm not a member and that the ListOkie has to approve my post unless I want to delete it, which I do. I'm befuddled by it. If anyone gets Gmail from me let me know - I am interested in looking at the complete message header. Dan On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Tim Crone wrote: Did your Verizon address get added to the list at some point, perhaps, and now dan.penoff at Gmail doesn't work? Or someone was playing a prank on you and registered the Gmail address, and now it has expired? Maybe Verizon is ticked at Google over the gigabit thing and is blocking Gmail. In any case, I'd try getting our benevolent moderator to remove the Verizon address. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Anyone watching the news from Boston? NOW let's get back to regular programming
Since I'm pretty much homebound for the next 3 weeks I could sure use some snow down here. It's unseasonably hot, nearly 90F yesterday. Not happy about the AC running all day long - I'm going to have a heck of an electric bill next month Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: How much snow is fresh snow? I ask because D.C. has not had so much as 3 of the white stuff in over 3 years. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cool Painting
Saw this and thought it was cool: http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/04/three-dimensional-animals-painted-in-layers-of-resin-by-keng-lye/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW let's get back to regular programming
Maybe these might better be used for cores if you buy some good remans. Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:48 PM, clay wrote: D-Jet injectors I was out trying to snag Jaime some bumper shocks, but also wanted to scrounge the injectors off the SLC at the PnP. I had pulled the fuel rails off the 450SE last time, but the insulators on the bottom of those were missing. Anyway, I tried to remove the fuel rails and injectors, but the cars seems to have been underwater for a short time and there was crap, debris, and rusted in all around. Instead of trying to be careful and deconstruct the whole mess, I went for destructive removal. Hose clamps and old rubber had rusted together and the oxidization was not helping. Lots of kroil to help soak it free was not effective either. I had to resort to tire irons and the 3# BFH as a coaxing tool in an attempt to break the rust sealing the injectors in. I was able to free four injectors. The driver side gave up one and the passenger side was willing to forsake three. What I did get out were not pretty and had some rust around the metal barrel where they had sat in wet muck for a while. I am hoping to be able to polish that off and then maybe have them tested to see if they will function. The other fuel rails injectors I pulled and gave a good soaking in WD-40 to try to keep humidity from seizing them up. Am I on a hopeless task here? clay On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Anyone got any Mercdes issues??? I could ask a dumb question but hopefully, someone has real issues. We need to move the Boston issue to Banned before people on here get offended and disappear. Randy, whose old MB is still in the garage because we got fresh snow yesterday - spring is a month behind here in the Great White North ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW let's get back to regular programming
I had a buddy in Wisconsin that designed and built his own home. Part of that design was an oversize three car garage with one bay that had a shower curtain arrangement around it with floor drains that allowed him to wash a car indoors in the winter time. He also had a row of spray nozzles in the floor near the door of this bay that would spray off the bottom of the car when you drove it in. Of course the garage was heated. The floor had hydronic heat so that when he drove in at night the snow and slush would melt off the car and run into the floor drains., then the car would be relatively dry underneath when he went out in the morning. When I built my house in Port Washington, WI in 1990, I put a large ceiling mounted gas fired heater in the garage (2-1/2 car garage) as well as several floor drains along with walls that were insulated as well as the rest of the house. Then I covered them with a melamine-like material so I didn't have to worry about getting them wet. The garage doors were heavily insulated as well. I also had a hot water circulation system (so you get hot water out of the faucet immediately) that ran next to the interior wall of the garage. I put a hose bib with a tempering valve on the line so I had hot water to hose off the cars in the winter time. I was driving my 1979 300TD at the time, so I had an industrial timer on the front wall of the 300TD's bay with a cable to connect the block heater. When I got home at night I plugged it in and the timer turned on around 4:00 am to warm up the engine. I only kept the heat in the garage around 50F during the week unless I was planning on working in it. This kept it warm enough to melt all the road crap off the cars overnight and let it run down into the drains so the cars and garage floor weren't a mess in the morning. That's one thing we learned about building a house the first time around, thankfully. You can do a lot of extra stuff that really adds to the functionality and usefulness of the house for a minimal amount when you build. A lot of things you can't go back and do after the fact, or if you did it would cost you a LOT of $$$. Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:06 PM, clay wrote: I am learning about all the interesting things that living in Alaska involves. Depending on the builder and his ability to understand the needs of the populace, they either build some cracker box dump out of a home plans booklet or know what they are doing and make changes that allow for the winter issues. The bulk of the builders are idiots who put up T1-11 cookie cutter junk. The good ones make sure there is an arctic entrance, some design ideas that allow for reduced cabin fever (light and greater airiness of rooms) and a heated garage, with floor drains and plumbing. The garages are fairly larger than needs be. You get space for shop or hobby work, but the really cool thing is that in a properly built home, you can wash the car in the garage while a blizzard is blowing outside. High ceilings and insulation on doors and walls stuffed enough that you probably could wash the car in the all together clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard Recommendations
Not yet. Why, do you have one? I did pull the trigger on the MSI motherboard today, however. I had an exchange with their sale people and they said they were going to be discontinuing this MB soon for lack of demand. On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Russ Williams wrote: Dan have you found a case yet? On 4/16/2013 10:19, Dan Penoff wrote: Only problem is that son has minimal funds, and would spend what he has to build another machine. I don't want to promote poor spending habits. He has a i5 desktop he built a year or so ago and it's working fine, so it's not like he is in desperate need for a better/faster machine. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - venturi vacuum pump
Not to mention the venturi style vacuum pumps require a fairly large CFM compressor to work properly. Noisy and rather inefficient. You can find AC specific vacuum pumps reasonably priced if you shop around. It will probably be the biggest investment you'll make in your AC tools after a quality manifold gauge set. Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Yes, a real vacuum pump is required. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:02:19 -0400 David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: Have any of you a recommendation on this type of vacuum pump for evacuating an auto a/c system? http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=MAS91200 1.3 CFM air displacement venturi type pump will pull up to 29 inches of vacuum (Hg.) at sea level That means you are missing 0.92 of vacuum, which is 23.4 mm Hg, which is 23.4 Torr. You want to get much lower pressures in your system than that when evacuating, the lower the better. I would aim for 0.1 Torr (100 mTorr) at the highest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW let's get back to regular programming
That melting of the salty gunk on a car is what leads to rust. Would be better to let it stay frozen in place until nature takes its course, or to use that undercarriage wash deal to clean it off. Getting it ALL off is the key. --R On 4/16/13 8:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I had a buddy in Wisconsin that designed and built his own home. Part of that design was an oversize three car garage with one bay that had a shower curtain arrangement around it with floor drains that allowed him to wash a car indoors in the winter time. He also had a row of spray nozzles in the floor near the door of this bay that would spray off the bottom of the car when you drove it in. Of course the garage was heated. The floor had hydronic heat so that when he drove in at night the snow and slush would melt off the car and run into the floor drains., then the car would be relatively dry underneath when he went out in the morning. When I built my house in Port Washington, WI in 1990, I put a large ceiling mounted gas fired heater in the garage (2-1/2 car garage) as well as several floor drains along with walls that were insulated as well as the rest of the house. Then I covered them with a melamine-like material so I didn't have to worry about getting them wet. The garage doors were heavily insulated as well. I also had a hot water circulation system (so you get hot water out of the faucet immediately) that ran next to the interior wall of the garage. I put a hose bib with a tempering valve on the line so I had hot water to hose off the cars in the winter time. I was driving my 1979 300TD at the time, so I had an industrial timer on the front wall of the 300TD's bay with a cable to connect the block heater. When I got home at night I plugged it in and the timer turned on around 4:00 am to warm up the engine. I only kept the heat in the garage around 50F during the week unless I was planning on working in it. This kept it warm enough to melt all the road crap off the cars overnight and let it run down into the drains so the cars and garage floor weren't a mess in the morning. That's one thing we learned about building a house the first time around, thankfully. You can do a lot of extra stuff that really adds to the functionality and usefulness of the house for a minimal amount when you build. A lot of things you can't go back and do after the fact, or if you did it would cost you a LOT of $$$. Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:06 PM, clay wrote: I am learning about all the interesting things that living in Alaska involves. Depending on the builder and his ability to understand the needs of the populace, they either build some cracker box dump out of a home plans booklet or know what they are doing and make changes that allow for the winter issues. The bulk of the builders are idiots who put up T1-11 cookie cutter junk. The good ones make sure there is an arctic entrance, some design ideas that allow for reduced cabin fever (light and greater airiness of rooms) and a heated garage, with floor drains and plumbing. The garages are fairly larger than needs be. You get space for shop or hobby work, but the really cool thing is that in a properly built home, you can wash the car in the garage while a blizzard is blowing outside. High ceilings and insulation on doors and walls stuffed enough that you probably could wash the car in the all together clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston?
While I wish the process was more expedient for clear cut cases, I do not think trials should be rushed to prevent government overreach. I do think the penalty for murder in terrorist cases should be the death penalty. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Terrorism is political by definition. If it were just a mental case acting out a first person shooter scenario (as we have seen over the past few years) it could be anyone of any political stripe. The fact that it was bombs with ball bearings and BBs indicates this was an act of terror. The listers who theorize that this was an act by 2nd. amendment supporters or government haters don't make sense, since the victims were just citizens like themselves. But if this act was a political act by an ideological entity, then it certainly makes a difference, and the CIC's reluctance to use the word terrorism tells us why it makes a difference. Just like Benghazi, a successful act of Islamist terror would point not only to the failure of the administration's policies vis-à-vis the Islamic world, but also to the fantasy world view they hold. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston? Quoted from another forum: There is One thing that's getting on my nerves about this bombing. Everyone wants to blame someone for this madman's actions. Whoever it was, set up bombs to kill people. It's not Bush's fault, it's not Obama's fault. Politics are not involved. Some guy who wants to kill people is to blame. We need to get better as people, focusing on what makes us better as individuals so we collectively get better as a society. We shouldn't get worked up over differences in individual beliefs. All of us understand the problems facing our country, right and left. Don't let politics enter the discussion of a tragedy that killed and injured a whole bunch of people. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - venturi vacuum pump
I have the Harbor Freight venturi style pump. I use it to draw a vacuum on a water heater to suck up veggie oil for filtering. I do have a large Snap On compressor to run it. I have no problem getting 25 on a 50 gallon tank in maybe 20 minutes. So, it is slow but it is cheap. And if I suck oil into it a quick spray with carb cleaner fixes it. If you only need it once in a great while it may be the way to go. Mike On Apr 16, 2013 7:02 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: Have any of you a recommendation on this type of vacuum pump for evacuating an auto a/c system? http://www.tooldiscounter.com/**ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=** MAS91200 http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=MAS91200 I am planning for the tools I need to work on my own a/cs . I have an air compressor (with 30 gallon tank) that claims to put out 5.7 cfm @ 90 psi. So perhaps I can get by with something like the above unit rather than pay several times as much for an electrically powered pump? The comments on the a/c sites vary a lot. I was hoping some of you trustworthy fellows had experience with such like. Also I am looking for thoughts on what I guess are the hydrocarbon substitutes for R 134, such as Envirosafe and Freeze 12. I tried some Envirosafe in a 20 year old Porsche R12 system last year and it is working well so far. My most pressing need is to activate the (up until now R 134) system in my cab tractor before hay season starts in June. The compressor locked up last fall. I have a new compressor and dryer, and a set of a/c gauges. My 83 300SD was converted to R 134 by a dealer's shop about 12 years ago. It is still working but the compressor is getting rumbly. Thanks for your help, Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Everyone looks good in overalls. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston?
Yes, but preceded by torture. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: While I wish the process was more expedient for clear cut cases, I do not think trials should be rushed to prevent government overreach. I do think the penalty for murder in terrorist cases should be the death penalty. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Terrorism is political by definition. If it were just a mental case acting out a first person shooter scenario (as we have seen over the past few years) it could be anyone of any political stripe. The fact that it was bombs with ball bearings and BBs indicates this was an act of terror. The listers who theorize that this was an act by 2nd. amendment supporters or government haters don't make sense, since the victims were just citizens like themselves. But if this act was a political act by an ideological entity, then it certainly makes a difference, and the CIC's reluctance to use the word terrorism tells us why it makes a difference. Just like Benghazi, a successful act of Islamist terror would point not only to the failure of the administration's policies vis-à-vis the Islamic world, but also to the fantasy world view they hold. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston? Quoted from another forum: There is One thing that's getting on my nerves about this bombing. Everyone wants to blame someone for this madman's actions. Whoever it was, set up bombs to kill people. It's not Bush's fault, it's not Obama's fault. Politics are not involved. Some guy who wants to kill people is to blame. We need to get better as people, focusing on what makes us better as individuals so we collectively get better as a society. We shouldn't get worked up over differences in individual beliefs. All of us understand the problems facing our country, right and left. Don't let politics enter the discussion of a tragedy that killed and injured a whole bunch of people. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Thanks for the PDF and that looks like the tube. Guess I'll just have to poke my head under the hood and take it off. After the rain up here stops Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/16/2013 7:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Is this what it looks like? http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/w163-m-class/310657d1275086222-egr-2010-05-28_180331.pdf Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston?
We do that already. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, but preceded by torture. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: While I wish the process was more expedient for clear cut cases, I do not think trials should be rushed to prevent government overreach. I do think the penalty for murder in terrorist cases should be the death penalty. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Terrorism is political by definition. If it were just a mental case acting out a first person shooter scenario (as we have seen over the past few years) it could be anyone of any political stripe. The fact that it was bombs with ball bearings and BBs indicates this was an act of terror. The listers who theorize that this was an act by 2nd. amendment supporters or government haters don't make sense, since the victims were just citizens like themselves. But if this act was a political act by an ideological entity, then it certainly makes a difference, and the CIC's reluctance to use the word terrorism tells us why it makes a difference. Just like Benghazi, a successful act of Islamist terror would point not only to the failure of the administration's policies vis-à-vis the Islamic world, but also to the fantasy world view they hold. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston? Quoted from another forum: There is One thing that's getting on my nerves about this bombing. Everyone wants to blame someone for this madman's actions. Whoever it was, set up bombs to kill people. It's not Bush's fault, it's not Obama's fault. Politics are not involved. Some guy who wants to kill people is to blame. We need to get better as people, focusing on what makes us better as individuals so we collectively get better as a society. We shouldn't get worked up over differences in individual beliefs. All of us understand the problems facing our country, right and left. Don't let politics enter the discussion of a tragedy that killed and injured a whole bunch of people. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry For all of those who deeply desire to go natural I offer this suggestion and challenge. Travel to your favorite jungle or desert or wild place. Stand at the edge and take off your shoes, all of your clothing, your watch, credit cards, car keys, all the bits that tie you to civilization, including your water bottle [plastic you know, bad bad bad] . Then take one step forward away from these bad things and keep walking. Commune with nature, sleep on the ground, drink where you find water, eat where you find food. Become one with nature. Do this for one year. Then come back to bad civilization [if you can find your way back] and tell us all how it worked out. [Good Luck] I eagerly await your story upon return. Grant... Ohh.. and don't feed the bears... ;) On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:33 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: It would likely annoy Yum! Brands and some of their customers; likewise, it would impact Royal Farms. (Pressure-Fried Chicken anyone?) -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:42, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: While pressure cooker controls would be helpful, their complete elimination would be more effective. Few people other than food faddists use them anymore, so their disappearance would hardly be noticed. Since these types of amateur bombs are nearly always a mixture of diesel fuel and fertilizer, banning these two noxious substances as well as pressure cookers should completely eliminate homegrown terrorism. Think of all the benefits the banning of diesel fuel would provide. Thousands of marriages would be saved since diesel widows would no longer spend their weekends sitting in front of the TV while their husbands worked on their diesel cars or sat at the computer discussing the merits of various lubricants. Replacing manufactured fertilizer with natural fertilizer (from horses and mules) could easily be accomplished since horses and mules would have already replaced diesel farm machinery. The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Should we enact some common sense pressure cooker controls to minimize this kind of violence? Some background checks on pressure cooker buyers? Some pressure cooker registration and licensing? I am thinking this would just be common sense. It could very easily be appended to the gun control legislation, and could protect us from this kind of bombing. Maybe we could get Elizabeth Warren, the new senator from Mass, to sponsor this? If we all sent her an email I am sure she would respond. --R On 4/16/13 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: A former militant communist says it looked like a gunpowder bomb (like a pipe bomb but bigger): I've been waiting for someone to claim responsibility for this evil madness. Various jihadi groups have disclaimed it, and the use of what appeared to be smallish, simple devices of ball bearings and what from the plume seemed to be a gunpowder burster is not their style, although the target certainly was -- a gathering of innocents making a suitable body count. CBS News says: A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that one of the explosive devices appears to have been placed in a metal pressure cooker (a metal kitchen pot with a locked down top) which had been placed in a black nylon bag or backpack. Investigators also found pieces of an electronic circuit board possibly indicating a timer was used in the detonation of the bomb. A law enforcement official told CBS News that the two bombs that exploded were made to look like discarded property. It is still unknown if one or both bombs were in garbage cans. One may have been on the sidewalk. The bombs were described as low explosive, but with anti-personnel packing. The official said there were apparently things like BB's, ball bearings and nails in the bombs. This is consistent with doctors reporting shrapnel pulled from victims. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Aren't you guys supposed to be getting snow, or is that farther north? Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Thanks for the PDF and that looks like the tube. Guess I'll just have to poke my head under the hood and take it off. After the rain up here stops Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard Recommendations
Yep sure do. Computer Club that I belong to was given 2 Comp USA cases that are NEW in boxes. I took some pix of the box yesterday I'll send to you off list. Russ On 4/16/2013 20:42, Dan Penoff wrote: Not yet. Why, do you have one? I did pull the trigger on the MSI motherboard today, however. I had an exchange with their sale people and they said they were going to be discontinuing this MB soon for lack of demand. On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Russ Williams wrote: Dan have you found a case yet? On 4/16/2013 10:19, Dan Penoff wrote: Only problem is that son has minimal funds, and would spend what he has to build another machine. I don't want to promote poor spending habits. He has a i5 desktop he built a year or so ago and it's working fine, so it's not like he is in desperate need for a better/faster machine. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6250 - Release Date: 04/17/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Snow? Better not, it just hailed here and that was with no warning, no preceding thunder, nada. I've never experienced that. Forecast gets us close to freezing at 35 this weekend, but not bad. From now till Tuesday, Saturday is the only day with a chance for no rain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 10:20 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Aren't you guys supposed to be getting snow, or is that farther north? Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Thanks for the PDF and that looks like the tube. Guess I'll just have to poke my head under the hood and take it off. After the rain up here stops Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry For all of those who deeply desire to go natural I offer this suggestion and challenge. Travel to your favorite jungle or desert or wild place. Stand at the edge and take off your shoes, all of your clothing, your watch, credit cards, car keys, all the bits that tie you to civilization, including your water bottle [plastic you know, bad bad bad] . Then take one step forward away from these bad things and keep walking. Commune with nature, sleep on the ground, drink where you find water, eat where you find food. Become one with nature. Do this for one year. Then come back to bad civilization [if you can find your way back] and tell us all how it worked out. [Good Luck] I eagerly await your story upon return. Grant... Ohh.. and don't feed the bears... ;) On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:33 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: It would likely annoy Yum! Brands and some of their customers; likewise, it would impact Royal Farms. (Pressure-Fried Chicken anyone?) -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:42, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: While pressure cooker controls would be helpful, their complete elimination would be more effective. Few people other than food faddists use them anymore, so their disappearance would hardly be noticed. Since these types of amateur bombs are nearly always a mixture of diesel fuel and fertilizer, banning these two noxious substances as well as pressure cookers should completely eliminate homegrown terrorism. Think of all the benefits the banning of diesel fuel would provide. Thousands of marriages would be saved since diesel widows would no longer spend their weekends sitting in front of the TV while their husbands worked on their diesel cars or sat at the computer discussing the merits of various lubricants. Replacing manufactured fertilizer with natural fertilizer (from horses and mules) could easily be accomplished since horses and mules would have already replaced diesel farm machinery. The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Should we enact some common sense pressure cooker controls to minimize this kind of violence? Some background checks on pressure cooker buyers? Some pressure cooker registration and licensing? I am thinking this would just be common sense. It could very easily be appended to the gun control legislation, and could protect us from this kind of bombing. Maybe we could get Elizabeth Warren, the new senator from Mass, to sponsor this? If we all sent her an email I am sure she would respond. --R On 4/16/13 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: A former militant communist says it looked like a gunpowder bomb (like a pipe bomb but bigger): I've been waiting for someone to claim responsibility for this evil madness. Various jihadi groups have disclaimed it, and the use of what appeared to be smallish, simple devices of ball bearings and what from the plume seemed to be a gunpowder burster is not their style, although the target certainly was -- a gathering of innocents making a suitable body count. CBS News says: A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that one of the explosive devices appears to have been placed in a metal pressure cooker (a metal kitchen pot with a locked down top) which had been placed in a black nylon bag or backpack. Investigators also found pieces of an electronic circuit board possibly indicating a timer was used in the detonation of the bomb. A law enforcement official told CBS News that the two bombs that exploded were made to look like discarded property. It is still unknown if one or both bombs were in garbage cans. One may have been on the sidewalk. The bombs were described as low explosive, but with anti-personnel packing. The official said there were apparently things like BB's, ball bearings and nails in the bombs. This is consistent with doctors reporting shrapnel pulled from victims.
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
Rich thinks he's funny. To my chagrin, so do I.. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
The new normal for D.C. weather is mild winters w/o any measurable snow, followed by record-breaking cold from late March through April. Who wants a used snow shovel? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Snow? Better not, it just hailed here and that was with no warning, no preceding thunder, nada. I've never experienced that. Forecast gets us close to freezing at 35 this weekend, but not bad. From now till Tuesday, Saturday is the only day with a chance for no rain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 10:20 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Aren't you guys supposed to be getting snow, or is that farther north? Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Thanks for the PDF and that looks like the tube. Guess I'll just have to poke my head under the hood and take it off. After the rain up here stops Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Second question. What's the best way to dissolve the carbon from inside the pipe? Brake cleaner? A mild citric acid? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/16/2013 7:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Is this what it looks like? http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/w163-m-class/310657d1275086222-egr-2010-05-28_180331.pdf Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW let's get back to regular programming
I had a setup I made to spray off the undercarriage whenever there was crap on the roads. If you've seen the little roller things they use with mirrors to inspect the bottom of the car, it was like that only I had a hose hooked to it with a manifold made from PVC pipe about 18 long that had 4 small spray nozzles in it. If the roads were sanded or salted I would go out after dinner, hook up the hose from my tempered water and give the bottom of both cars a good spritzing. Not perfect, but I think it helped to keep a lot of the nasty stuff off of the car. The undercarriage of my 300TD was nice and clean and it was that way of the length of my ownership, so I have to believe it helped out somewhat. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: That melting of the salty gunk on a car is what leads to rust. Would be better to let it stay frozen in place until nature takes its course, or to use that undercarriage wash deal to clean it off. Getting it ALL off is the key. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
From what I have read, carb cleaner. There is a similar pipe on later model M119 engines that is difficult to access, and the consensus there seems to be the use of a wire with something on it to scrub and carb cleaner. Fortunately, the earlier M119 models like mine have the EGR right up front where you can get to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Benz Hogs wrote: Second question. What's the best way to dissolve the carbon from inside the pipe? Brake cleaner? A mild citric acid? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Anyone watching the news from Boston? NOW let's get back to regular programming
But, I still have the furnace on so we are still consuming gas. Send some of that heat north please. Randy On 16/04/2013 2:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Since I'm pretty much homebound for the next 3 weeks I could sure use some snow down here. It's unseasonably hot, nearly 90F yesterday. Not happy about the AC running all day long - I'm going to have a heck of an electric bill next month Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: How much snow is fresh snow? I ask because D.C. has not had so much as 3 of the white stuff in over 3 years. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cool Painting
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:33:45 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Saw this and thought it was cool: http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/04/three-dimensional-animals-painted-in-layers-of-resin-by-keng-lye/ It really is. Must have taken a lot of work! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41
Remember WD-40, This is WD-41. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
We do that all the time in Florida. Those nude beaches are pretty wild and some do it for more than a year. Gerry From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com For all of those who deeply desire to go natural I offer this suggestion and challenge. Travel to your favorite jungle or desert or wild place. Stand at the edge and take off your shoes, all of your clothing, your watch, credit cards, car keys, all the bits that tie you to civilization, including your water bottle [plastic you know, bad bad bad] . Then take one step forward away from these bad things and keep walking. Commune with nature, sleep on the ground, drink where you find water, eat where you find food. Become one with nature. Do this for one year. Then come back to bad civilization [if you can find your way back] and tell us all how it worked out. [Good Luck] I eagerly await your story upon return. Grant... Ohh.. and don't feed the bears... ;) On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:33 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: It would likely annoy Yum! Brands and some of their customers; likewise, it would impact Royal Farms. (Pressure-Fried Chicken anyone?) -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:42, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: While pressure cooker controls would be helpful, their complete elimination would be more effective. Few people other than food faddists use them anymore, so their disappearance would hardly be noticed. Since these types of amateur bombs are nearly always a mixture of diesel fuel and fertilizer, banning these two noxious substances as well as pressure cookers should completely eliminate homegrown terrorism. Think of all the benefits the banning of diesel fuel would provide. Thousands of marriages would be saved since diesel widows would no longer spend their weekends sitting in front of the TV while their husbands worked on their diesel cars or sat at the computer discussing the merits of various lubricants. Replacing manufactured fertilizer with natural fertilizer (from horses and mules) could easily be accomplished since horses and mules would have already replaced diesel farm machinery. The nation would return to a simpler and more natural way of life for which many of us yearn. Gerry richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Should we enact some common sense pressure cooker controls to minimize this kind of violence? Some background checks on pressure cooker buyers? Some pressure cooker registration and licensing? I am thinking this would just be common sense. It could very easily be appended to the gun control legislation, and could protect us from this kind of bombing. Maybe we could get Elizabeth Warren, the new senator from Mass, to sponsor this? If we all sent her an email I am sure she would respond. --R On 4/16/13 1:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: A former militant communist says it looked like a gunpowder bomb (like a pipe bomb but bigger): I've been waiting for someone to claim responsibility for this evil madness. Various jihadi groups have disclaimed it, and the use of what appeared to be smallish, simple devices of ball bearings and what from the plume seemed to be a gunpowder burster is not their style, although the target certainly was -- a gathering of innocents making a suitable body count. CBS News says: A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that one of the explosive devices appears to have been placed in a metal pressure cooker (a metal kitchen pot with a locked down top) which had been placed in a black nylon bag or backpack. Investigators also found pieces of an electronic circuit board possibly indicating a timer was used in the detonation of the bomb. A law enforcement official told CBS News that the two bombs that exploded were made to look like discarded property. It is still unknown if one or both bombs were in garbage cans. One may have been on the sidewalk. The bombs were described as low explosive, but with anti-personnel packing. The official said there were apparently things like BB's, ball bearings and nails in the bombs. This is consistent with doctors reporting shrapnel pulled from victims. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used
Re: [MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41
That was indeed amazing. How do I invest in this stuff? Does the company that makes it trade on the stock exchange? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Remember WD-40, This is WD-41. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
Damn.. totally stunned that Andrew actually went off concrete at some point in his life... and had a bear experience... Will wonders never cease? So have to ask.. how did it feel to be totally unarmed at that moment? Grant... [some days, some things are to hard to resist... ;) ] On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
I never lost faith in my ability to survive and had no urge to have a weapon On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Damn.. totally stunned that Andrew actually went off concrete at some point in his life... and had a bear experience... Will wonders never cease? So have to ask.. how did it feel to be totally unarmed at that moment? Grant... [some days, some things are to hard to resist... ;) ] On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
A suspect is in custody!
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:
I never lost faith in my ability to survive and had no urge to have a
weapon
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Damn.. totally stunned that Andrew actually went off concrete at some
point
in his life... and had a bear experience... Will wonders never cease?
So have to ask.. how did it feel to be totally unarmed at that moment?
Grant... [some days, some things are to hard to resist... ;) ]
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American
bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was
black.
I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear.
--R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons)
On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada)
back in
my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his
hind
legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It
was
amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that
position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might
have
been rooting for the bear).
Andrew
__**_
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Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
That's because you fight off thugs and bears with your fine mind:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I never lost faith in my ability to survive and had no urge to have a weapon On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Damn.. totally stunned that Andrew actually went off concrete at some point in his life... and had a bear experience... Will wonders never cease? So have to ask.. how did it feel to be totally unarmed at that moment? Grant... [some days, some things are to hard to resist... ;) ] On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
Grant probably read Rainbow Six. Personally, I loved the ending. For all of those who deeply desire to go natural I offer this suggestion and challenge. Travel to your favorite jungle or desert or wild place. Stand at the edge and take off your shoes, all of your clothing, your watch, credit cards, car keys, all the bits that tie you to civilization, including your water bottle [plastic you know, bad bad bad] . Then take one step forward away from these bad things and keep walking. Commune with nature, sleep on the ground, drink where you find water, eat where you find food. Become one with nature. Do this for one year. Then come back to bad civilization [if you can find your way back] and tell us all how it worked out. [Good Luck] I eagerly await your story upon return. Grant... Ohh.. and don't feed the bears... ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41
The video gives a web site www.UltraEverDry.com that transfers to http://www.spillcontainment.com/everdry. Beyond that I can't say. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41 That was indeed amazing. How do I invest in this stuff? Does the company that makes it trade on the stock exchange? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Remember WD-40, This is WD-41. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 Upper ball joint
I do not have the large and good parts. I might be able to snag them the next time I visit the PnP. Two R107 and a w114 in the yard, and I should be able to get them. Prior to shipping the car to crushing, the vultures had taken the suspension. clay On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Dieselhead wrote: So do you have UCAs for sale from your parts stash? LilQ's site sez NLA for the upper ball joint. New UCAs are available. New LCAs are way in the classic center price range. If you have UCAs with good ball joints, I'd be interested. Could tradeya Bergsma jackets for it! wink ... or cash Maybe there is a way to use a 123/124/126 ball joint in the 107 three bolt holder? Same same. I had the front suspension rebuilt on Gump and it was the exact same stuff as for Frosch. Indy told me I was stupid to rebuild since it was $1800, and Gump was not worth that. It would be worth doing for a 107. At least the rubber parts are the same. Bunch of the metal UCA and LCA are same clay On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Dieselhead wrote: #1 Daughter called today. Said the tar shop sez the upper ball joint is a goner on one side of the 107. Does anyone know if that is the same as a 115? I believe the early 107s were UCA and LCA as on the 115. This is an 85 so I am wondering if it is the same as a 115, or updated to be like the 123, or something only for the 107. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW let's get back to regular programming
That is good too clay On Apr 16, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Maybe these might better be used for cores if you buy some good remans. Dan On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:48 PM, clay wrote: D-Jet injectors I was out trying to snag Jaime some bumper shocks, but also wanted to scrounge the injectors off the SLC at the PnP. I had pulled the fuel rails off the 450SE last time, but the insulators on the bottom of those were missing. Anyway, I tried to remove the fuel rails and injectors, but the cars seems to have been underwater for a short time and there was crap, debris, and rusted in all around. Instead of trying to be careful and deconstruct the whole mess, I went for destructive removal. Hose clamps and old rubber had rusted together and the oxidization was not helping. Lots of kroil to help soak it free was not effective either. I had to resort to tire irons and the 3# BFH as a coaxing tool in an attempt to break the rust sealing the injectors in. I was able to free four injectors. The driver side gave up one and the passenger side was willing to forsake three. What I did get out were not pretty and had some rust around the metal barrel where they had sat in wet muck for a while. I am hoping to be able to polish that off and then maybe have them tested to see if they will function. The other fuel rails injectors I pulled and gave a good soaking in WD-40 to try to keep humidity from seizing them up. Am I on a hopeless task here? clay On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Anyone got any Mercdes issues??? I could ask a dumb question but hopefully, someone has real issues. We need to move the Boston issue to Banned before people on here get offended and disappear. Randy, whose old MB is still in the garage because we got fresh snow yesterday - spring is a month behind here in the Great White North ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
How about a nice new Ford? A friend tells me his wife just bought a Ford hybrid. Not a Fusion so I am assuming a Focus? He said what it was but I don't recall exactly what he said. He says, that the onboard computer tells him he is getting 56 mpg driving it around here in the city. Not too shabby if it is accurate. They just got it so he really has not had time to find out how real life compares to what the computer says. Randy On 17/04/2013 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:26:24 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact solartribune.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
Try again. Worked fine for me. Randy On 17/04/2013 4:28 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:26:24 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact solartribune.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:37:32 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Try again. Worked fine for me. Now it works for me, too. Craig Randy On 17/04/2013 4:28 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:26:24 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact solartribune.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Dan Penoff wrote: From what I have read, carb cleaner. There is a similar pipe on later model M119 engines that is difficult to access, and the consensus there seems to be the use of a wire with something on it to scrub and carb cleaner. I wonder if this is a job for a boresnake, maybe with a little oven cleaner if it doesn't dissolve the boresnake. http://www.hoppes.com/boresnake Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Whom do you hang with?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2013/04/16/177512687/a-whom-do-you-hang-with-map-of-america?utm_source=NPRutm_medium=facebookutm_campaign=20130417 Tracking what Americans do based on wheresgeorge.com and phone calls. -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Taildraggers and tall grass
or, how not to land a plane. http://youtu.be/xaNY49aja5c ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hooking up starter
Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - venturi vacuum pump
I use my HF venturi vacuum to power my oil sucker. I tried using it for a/c but it does not draw enough vacuum with most homeowner air compressors. I have a pretty decent compressor, but not industrial by any means. I have the Harbor Freight venturi style pump. I use it to draw a vacuum on a water heater to suck up veggie oil for filtering. I do have a large Snap On compressor to run it. I have no problem getting 25 on a 50 gallon tank in maybe 20 minutes. So, it is slow but it is cheap. And if I suck oil into it a quick spray with carb cleaner fixes it. If you only need it once in a great while it may be the way to go. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston?
Andrew sez: We do that already. (referring to tor ture) Yes, that is true. The gummit tor tures citizens by extracting 15% for retirement (yes, even though only 7.5% is deducted from your check, 15% is sent in to the gummit.) That 15% is reflected in the true cost of employment. Then there is 25 to 37% for fed tax, a variable % for property tax, state tax, local taxes, sales taxes, vehicle taxes, various gummit fees and an unending list of other taxes and fees. Most of us who work are paying over 50% of our income in taxes. 10% is enough for God! But our gummit is not satisfied with 5 times as much. We are all tor tured! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 Upper ball joint
IIRC, the UBJ was never available from Ma Benz - you were supposed to replace the UCA instead (due the rivets I suspect). After market UBJ were available to bolt into the rivet holes, but was not a Ma Benz approved procedure. I did the UCA replacement - it wasn't that expensive as I remember it (though that was a long time ago). On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: LilQ's site sez NLA for the upper ball joint. New UCAs are available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - venturi vacuum pump
On Apr 16, 2013 4:02 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: Also I am looking for thoughts on what I guess are the hydrocarbon substitutes for R 134, such as Envirosafe and Freeze 12. Freeze 12 is not a hydrocarbon and is not recommended for R134 systems. ES-12 will work, but why not just use 134? Or did you mistype and you're asking about R-12 substitutes? In that case stay far away from Freeze 12 -- it's a mixture of R134 and various snake oils and will kill an R12 system. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Anyone watching the news from Boston?
That's not what I meant. On Apr 17, 2013 8:44 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew sez: We do that already. (referring to tor ture) Yes, that is true. The gummit tor tures citizens by extracting 15% for retirement (yes, even though only 7.5% is deducted from your check, 15% is sent in to the gummit.) That 15% is reflected in the true cost of employment. Then there is 25 to 37% for fed tax, a variable % for property tax, state tax, local taxes, sales taxes, vehicle taxes, various gummit fees and an unending list of other taxes and fees. Most of us who work are paying over 50% of our income in taxes. 10% is enough for God! But our gummit is not satisfied with 5 times as much. We are all tor tured! __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
Alas, we seem to be degenerating into a sort of banned lite at the expense of Andrew. Myself included, if not at the head of the pack. Andrew, we really do appreciate you. In fact we care for you so much that we would like to awaken you to the real world that exists outside the DC area. The laws of nature, of nature's God and the laws of physics are immutable. No amount of 1984/animal farm language and/or manmade law will ever change that. Thank you for putting up with us. Rich thinks he's funny. To my chagrin, so do I.. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Racist rant. It was a bear of color (or a Canadian African-American bear), and shame on you for being afraid of it just because it was black. I bet you would have felt more comfortable if it was a polar bear. --R (who occasionally has to teach liberals some lessons) On 4/17/13 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I was chased by a black bear in Kluane Lake National Park (Canada) back in my youth. He didn't look particularly large until he reared up on his hind legs, probably out of curiosity rather than hunger or aggression. It was amazing just how tall and threatening he appeared in that position. Fortunately, I survived the encounter (some of you might have been rooting for the bear). Andrew __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
The new normal for D.C. weather is mild winters w/o any measurable snow, followed by record-breaking cold from late March through April. Who wants a used snow shovel? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Snow? Better not, it just hailed here and that was with no warning, no preceding thunder, nada. I've never experienced that. Forecast gets us close to freezing at 35 this weekend, but not bad. From now till Tuesday, Saturday is the only day with a chance for no rain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) Keep it, we will send you some snow. Unfortunately, being delivered by USPS, it may not get there for a year or two. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
A screwdriver Second question. What's the best way to dissolve the carbon from inside the pipe? Brake cleaner? A mild citric acid? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
Get out your Hoppes cleaning kit select an appropriate bore brush, tie a string to one end, put a fishing weight on the other, drop the weight through the tube and pull the brush through, accompanied with carb cleaner. From what I have read, carb cleaner. There is a similar pipe on later model M119 engines that is difficult to access, and the consensus there seems to be the use of a wire with something on it to scrub and carb cleaner. Fortunately, the earlier M119 models like mine have the EGR right up front where you can get to it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
Did I stutter? grin Yes, the top stud. There should be nothing else connected to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:11:21 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct Yes. The small, middle lug goes to the ignition switch. The large, bottom lug should have a short connection going directly into the starter. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
10-4 On Apr 17, 2013 6:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did I stutter? grin Yes, the top stud. There should be nothing else connected to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boston Marathon bombs: the early theories
ROTFL That retort would have been different had it been a grizzly rather than a lil black bear! I never lost faith in my ability to survive and had no urge to have a weapon On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Damn.. totally stunned that Andrew actually went off concrete at some point in his life... and had a bear experience... Will wonders never cease? So have to ask.. how did it feel to be totally unarmed at that moment? Grant... [some days, some things are to hard to resist... ;) ] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41
Remember WD-40, This is WD-41. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature I want some for my boots and jacket! I was thinking that long before they got to the boot demo! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
H, Well I was right about the company, Hoppes! I've never seen that before, But I'll admit that I did think of something similar long ago. Dan Penoff wrote: From what I have read, carb cleaner. There is a similar pipe on later model M119 engines that is difficult to access, and the consensus there seems to be the use of a wire with something on it to scrub and carb cleaner. I wonder if this is a job for a boresnake, maybe with a little oven cleaner if it doesn't dissolve the boresnake. http://www.hoppes.com/boresnake Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
And nothing goes on the bottom lug except the little short strap to the starter, correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:20 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: 10-4 On Apr 17, 2013 6:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did I stutter? grin Yes, the top stud. There should be nothing else connected to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
Correct. Look at the picture I sent the link to if you can. Spells it all out. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: And nothing goes on the bottom lug except the little short strap to the starter, correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:20 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: 10-4 On Apr 17, 2013 6:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did I stutter? grin Yes, the top stud. There should be nothing else connected to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
Yes you're correct I saw the picture. Thank you for being patient with me. I'm having way too many senior moments lately and at 53 it makes me a little nervous. Bob R On Apr 17, 2013 6:39 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Correct. Look at the picture I sent the link to if you can. Spells it all out. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: And nothing goes on the bottom lug except the little short strap to the starter, correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:20 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: 10-4 On Apr 17, 2013 6:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did I stutter? grin Yes, the top stud. There should be nothing else connected to it. Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So the battery cable goes to the top lug correct On Apr 17, 2013 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Top. Another giveaway is that one of the large copper studs on the solenoid should be bolted to a strap that goes into the starter. If you connect the battery here the starter would try to turn all of the time. Here is an example: http://www.hoyetractor.com/support/knowledgebase.php?article=76 Dan On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hooking up starter
Okay boys I had a brain fart. Does the hot wire go on the top lug or the bottom lug of the solenoid on the starter? Whichever one does not have continuity to ground. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
I remember when you got 2 feet of snow three yrs ago Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The new normal for D.C. weather is mild winters w/o any measurable snow, followed by record-breaking cold from late March through April. Who wants a used snow shovel? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Snow? Better not, it just hailed here and that was with no warning, no preceding thunder, nada. I've never experienced that. Forecast gets us close to freezing at 35 this weekend, but not bad. From now till Tuesday, Saturday is the only day with a chance for no rain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 10:20 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Aren't you guys supposed to be getting snow, or is that farther north? Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Thanks for the PDF and that looks like the tube. Guess I'll just have to poke my head under the hood and take it off. After the rain up here stops Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Seagate 7200.11 Disk
I recall people talking about the Seagate 7200.11 firmware problem causing disks to brick. I even think someone here had repaired one. I have been working on a computer with a 7200.11 and noticed smartd said I should investigate whether it was one of the disks that had the bad firmware. I investigated and Seagate's website did say I should update the firmware, so I did. Unfortunately, that process caused the SMART value for reallocated sectors to indicate a failure. So I now need to reset the SMART table. I found the process on line, but I need a RS-232/TTL convertor and cable. Does anyone here have one I can borrow? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slick! (literally) Made in USA WD-41
That's wicked cool, now I need it in a permitted for household use and I'll apply it to my cyclocross bike so the next mudfest I ride in won't stick! Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 11:57 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Remember WD-40, This is WD-41. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature http://www.youtube.com/embed/IPM8OR6W6WE?feature ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
Cool, but how will that work in downtown parking garages? They failed to design it to be used in the most beneficial place, high capacity parking. It's just another passing fad. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This concept is both brilliant and simple. Makes me want to buy an electric Smart (Meredes content). http://solartribune.com/solar-tree-new-method-to-charge-electric-cars-2013-04-15/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 EGR
99% of that year or two will be 2mi away at your local post office where they ignore every redelivery request you file. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/17/2013 8:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: The new normal for D.C. weather is mild winters w/o any measurable snow, followed by record-breaking cold from late March through April. Who wants a used snow shovel? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Snow? Better not, it just hailed here and that was with no warning, no preceding thunder, nada. I've never experienced that. Forecast gets us close to freezing at 35 this weekend, but not bad. From now till Tuesday, Saturday is the only day with a chance for no rain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) Keep it, we will send you some snow. Unfortunately, being delivered by USPS, it may not get there for a year or two. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USPO [was: Re: ML320 EGR]
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:17:24 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 99% of that year or two will be 2mi away at your local post office where they ignore every redelivery request you file. We just got a Christmas card that was mailed 24 Dec 2012. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Boston Marathon Bombs, a different perspective.
One of the cycling groups I ride with has a fairly famous member, Peter Sagal of NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. He finished the marathon with his blind companion 5 minutes before the first bomb hit. Sagal received the following message from William Greer on Tuesday: I have really sore legs. I am ready to start training for the next marathon, and I'm going to have a lot more long runs. I had the speed, I just need to really increase my endurance. Thanks very much for being my sighted guide; you made the marathon a great pleasure. The only problem were the bombs. http://www.runnersworld.com/races/peter-sagal-eyewitness-bravery-horror#.UW62ty7NCHQ.email -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USPO [was: Re: ML320 EGR]
Just another demonstration of the gummit's magnificent ability to take your money and spend it WAY better than YOU would! On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:17:24 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 99% of that year or two will be 2mi away at your local post office where they ignore every redelivery request you file. We just got a Christmas card that was mailed 24 Dec 2012. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Seagate 7200.11 Disk
Craig wrote: I recall people talking about the Seagate 7200.11 firmware problem causing disks to brick. I even think someone here had repaired one. I have been working on a computer with a 7200.11 and noticed smartd said I should investigate whether it was one of the disks that had the bad firmware. I investigated and Seagate's website did say I should update the firmware, so I did. Unfortunately, that process caused the SMART value for reallocated sectors to indicate a failure. So I now need to reset the SMART table. I found the process on line, but I need a RS-232/TTL convertor and cable. I've got a Nokia USB cable (works with your phone, actually) that I was going to hack up to use with my bricked 7200.11 but never got around to it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT a lot of info about Boston bomb
Daily Mail has quite a spread of photos and info, some a bit difficult http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310768/Boston-attack-2013-Photos-shrapnel-blasted-victims-Marathon-bombings.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
