Re: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> Gerry wrote:
> > The printer mfg's are getting worse about cartridges...
> 
> You mean... Carly?
> mao

Probably not. She didn't seem to make many people happy at HP.
The latest CEO seems to be making pretty good HP laptops. 
Canon has solved the problem of print heads clogging by put a printhead in each 
cartridge, but their cost-per-page is pretty high. They're a good solution if 
you don't do much printing IMO.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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Rich Thomas wrote:
> The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, 
> the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my 
> mother and grandmothers all did!  Best thing for veggies is to steam 
> them for a few minutes, blanch them in some boiling water for a few 
> minutes, or saute in some olive oil (and maybe a touch of butter for 
> some more flavor) with just a bit of salt to punch up the flavor, maybe 
> some garlic and lemon juice, or pepper or a bit of curry powder, etc. 
> right at the end.  Unless you are making a veg soup, boiling them for so 
> long really gets you nothing.  Plus this process only takes a few 
> minutes and the veggies taste like they are fresh, and actually have 
> flavor and crunch and taste!
> Crock pots are great for stews and such where you want low and slow and 
> the flavors to mingle, but I wouldn't do veg in them.  Steaming is nice 
> too because with one pot and a steamer basket you can throw in a piece 
> of chicken, potatoes, onions, carrots, cabbage, anything else and in a 
> very short time have a whole dinner ready to go.
> BTW anything will taste good "with a lot of butter"!!!
> --R

Okay, I'll save the crockpot mostly for fish chowder which is especially good 
when made with grouper.
Know what you mean about the Southern way of cooking which was also popular in 
the midwest when I was a kid. Everything got boiled or fried in a skillet with 
lard.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking
> destroys vitamins. Therefore, the less cooking time the more vitamins are
> preserved.  I usually steam veggies for a couple minutes, then turn off the 
> heat for 3 or 4 more mins. with the lid on.  I also grill whenever
> possible.
> 
> Grilled corn:  Soak unhusked ears in the sink for 15 minutes or longer.
> Grill on a propane grill (H) for 7.5 minutes, then turn and cook for
> another 7.5 mins.  Remove and place in a paper bag to cool slightly.  Then
> husk and devour.

I'll pass the corn recipe on to SIL who has a grill. Maybe it will taste better 
than the tasteless corn-on-the-cob I've cooked in a microwave. 
The boiled, garden raised corn I ate as a child was much better.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> Note:
> What Curt said, but if you wash or rinse the vegetables, then the water that 
> clings to them is enough. I'm thinking green beans or asparagus here. Some 
> veggies are great on the grill. Zucchini is a good example: cut them in
> quarters lengthwise, put them on a hot grill for about 2 minutes on each of 
> the 3 sides for a total of about 6 minutes. This should produce some grill 
> marks. pile them up on a serving plate. They will soften a bit sitting piled
> up like that. Season (I just use a bit of Italian dressing) and serve.
> 
> If you want to use a crock pot for vegetables, use a temperature controller
> device (PID) and keep the vegetables in a vacuum-sealed bag. This technique
> is known as sous vide. This technique is wonderful for meat.
> Greg

I made a plug-in rig using a wall switch/dimmer that I think uses pulse width 
modulation. That should reduce the temp in the crockpot which has only fixed 
temps. Is that what you mean?

Vacuum sealed bag cooking sounds interesting. Been tempted to buy a sealer and 
bags for other purposes, so maybe I'll get one and try it.
Gerry 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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fmiser wrote:
> Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
> actually boils.
 
> All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
> half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
> want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
> food.

> To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
> the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
> enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
> boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
> little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
> come from a stove burner or a microwave.

> You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
> the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
> my list of favorite foods...

Bacon is added to green beans and other vegetables for flavor down here in 
Florida. I don't think everyone eats the bacon; at least I don't.
I've never had a crockpot apart. Are the heating strips only in the sides?
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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G Mann  wrote:
> > I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok.
> > The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo
> > steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veggies yet
> > steam them. No loss of flavor, and vegetables retain some of the natural
> > crispness of fresh vegetable, which adds to the food experience.
> >
> > Someone mentioned asparagus.
> > I use a microwave to get perfect asparagus every time. Once you do it this 
> > way, you will also.
> >
> > 1. Prep a plate of asparagus [serving for about 4] the normal way by
> > snapping the woody ends off. [1 lb of asparagus about fills a dinner plate 
> > and makes 4 nice servings]
> > 2. Add fresh chopped cilantro to taste.
> > 3. Add a bit of chopped garlic to taste.
> > 4. Add a few pinches of hand rubbed sage [again to taste].
> > 5. Add a good portion of butter slices distributed across the asparagus.
> > 6. Drizzle of EVO
> > 7. A pinch of sea salt and fresh ground pepper.
> > Cover this stack of goodness with an inverted dinner plate [same size] and 
> > place in microwave for 4 minutes [caution.. some microwaves are more or
> > less powerful so you need to adjust cook time to fit]
> > The asparagus will steam to perfection in it's own moisture when done this 
> > way.. I like to let the plate stand for another minute after cooking which 
> > lets all the spice flavors permeate the asparagus. Then serve.
> > You will find the asparagus is nicely cooked.. retains just the right
> > amount of "firmness" [never soggy or slimy like oven cooked] and the
> > infusion of spices add layers of flavor never before found in asparagus.
> > You may find some other favorite spices to add, I sometimes do.. never yet 
> > had a complaint.. often had compliments..

I'll get a bamboo steamer and try your technique for asparagus. I'll also pass 
this on to daughter who cooks a lot of asparagus.
I don't have a wok but maybe I could set it on a rack in a deep pressure cooker?

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:47:47 -0500
Mountain Man via Mercedes  wrote:

> And...
> Don't try to infuse raw garlic in to olive oil.
> I wanted to do that the other day and someone looked it up on internet
> and my sons already knew.  Botulism probable from anaerobic condition
> in oil.  Okay, so saute garlic in oil on pan and proceed.
> Someone please tell us where ChowdahQ will be - thanks.
> mao

Botulism germs already in the garlic? Didn't know that.
Gerry 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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Randy Bennell wrote:
> Crockpot is for things that need to be slow cooked, like stew, chili 
> etc. We also have found that it does a good job on lasagna.
> RB

It should be useful for family get-togethers and parties since it can be left 
on the warm setting and people can help themselves. Is pea soup as popular in 
your part of Canada as it is in Eastern Canada? Neighbor lady from Quebec fed 
me some years ago which was exceptionally good.
Around the same time, bosses Italian mother-in-law fed me lentil soup which was 
also very good.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

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Curt wrote:
> Boiled veggies taste terrible, they have no place in a crock pot.
> Put 'em in a covered dish in the microwave with a little water. Cook on high 
> for 4-5 minutes or until they hit your favorite degree of done-ness. They'll 
> be faux steamed and taste much better.
> Something like asparagus do in the oven, put it on a baking sheet, cover with 
> olive oil, salt and pepper to taste. Bake at 350-400 for around 10 minutes 
> until soft. I usually cover with foil for baking as the oil might smoke.
> Do kale in a frying pan with butter. Rinse the leaves first and the water on 
> them will help them steam. Much more flavor than boiling. This is best with 
> young leaves which are more tender, older ones might be tough and should be 
> boiled instead.
> -Curt

Can other leafy greens such as turnip greens be cooked the same way as kale?

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

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I think of you just have it in the link when you pull it up in your web browser 
it will pull up.

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> How can I change .obj file to jpg?
> I can't see the image.
> Attach a jpg?
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] My new purchase

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So how much you digit it's worth with parts all in boxes?

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> 
> Even I would tackle that due to parts cost alone!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yummy

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>  wrote:
> 
> We just made,about 2 gal of chowdah & clams are on ice.
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[MBZ] Pao Doce Sweet Bread Recipe

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Here is one recipe cut down to normal household measures and quantities:

Pao Doce: Portuguese Sweet Bread
(Hawaiian Sweet Bread)

Makes 2 loaves
INGREDIENTS

2 tablespoons active dry yeast
1/4 cup warm water
1 cup lukewarm milk (scalded, then cooled)
3/4 cup sugar
1 teaspoon salt
3 eggs
1/2 cup butter (2 sticks), softened
5-6 cups Bread flour
1 egg
1 teaspoon sugar


 Working with sweet bread is different than any 
"normal" bread.  The dough will be much softer 
and tends to be sticky, more like a sweet roll 
dough.  It likes a moist atmosphere and warm 
ambient temperatures.  80º F and 80% humidity or 
more are ideal.


Check Out Our Top Yeast Recipe
DIRECTIONS
Dissolve yeast in warm water in a large bowl.
	Stir in milk, 3/4 cup sugar, 3 eggs, 
salt, margarine or butter, and 3 cups of flour.

Beat until smooth.
	Stir in enough of the remaining flour to 
make the dough easy to handle.  (Sweet bread is a 
very soft dough, and because it is so rich, it 
takes kneading time to develop the gluten to make 
a stretchy dough that is not too sticky.  Be 
careful not to add too much flour, or it will be 
too dry.) 
	Knead dough on a lightly floured surface 
until smooth and elastic - about 5 minutes. If 
you knead on a mixer, it may take 15 to 20 
minutes to develop the gluten at low-med speeds. 
An alternative way I have used is to blend in the 
flour and mix or knead some.  the dough will be 
very sticky.  Stretch and fold the dough a couple 
times.  Let the dough rest 2-5 min, and repeat 
the folds.  Rest and fold until the dough is not 
sticky or just a little sticky.
	Place in a greased bowl and let rise in a 
warm place until it is double in size - about 1 
to 1 1/2 hours.

Punch down dough and divide in half.
Shape each half into a round slightly flat loaf.
Place each loaf into a well greased round 9" x 1 1/2" pan or loaf pan.
Cover and let rise until double (about an hour).
Heat oven to 350°F.
Beat 1 egg and brush over tops of loaves.
Sprinkle with 1 teaspoon of sugar.
Bake until loaves are golden brown, about 35-45 minutes.
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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Mao writes:

> How can I change .obj file to jpg?
>I can't see the image.
>Attach a jpg?
>Thanks. 

.obj
.ob
.o
.
.j
.jp
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‎
Just change the extension from obj to jpg. 
Should work. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

RB wrote:

 I would need or at least want to divide the trip into something like 300
 mile stages and that would thus take me at least the better part of a week
 to get there since my best guess is that we are somewhere in the 12 to 15
 hundred mile range away from you.


I'm game for that.  Let's talk it up for ChowdahQ9.
ChiTown has some interesting places you want to see, plus Rick, and
Gene & Jude's.
mao


That sounds like fun.  I might join in for the lake michigan part of 
that, and maybe even the Q.  If I were going east, I'd probably make 
Chicago to Q in a day.  (unless Randy and Mao turn the whole deal 
into a travelling party with MB stops all the way.)


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Dan G writes:
‎
>I'm game for that.  Let's talk it up >for ChowdahQ9.
>ChiTown has some interesting >places you want to see, plus Rick, >and
>Gene & Jude's.

And Darren and Bowtruss coffee. Luther G. , Deneal, and Todd in Wisconsin. 
Craig will be about two hours away in Indiana then, also. 
‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

We need that Hawaian sweet bread recipe from Curly.
Please.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

How can I change .obj file to jpg?
I can't see the image.
Attach a jpg?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You can deny it all you want but you're a culinary L as much as Grant.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have had a rice cooker, a wok and a bamboo steamer for nearly 40 years,
> and we use them regularly.
>
> I also ate mexican food long before there were any mexican restaurants.
> We had a tortilla press in the 60s and used it.  Also early adopters of
> croissants (baking and selling), yogurt, (and making) frozen yogurt (for
> sale), Mixed Veg noddles and hard cider (licensed winery) and other foods,
> often before they became trendy in Collyphonia.
>
> Choice of food, or food prep methods has NO correleation or cause or
> effect related to belief in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the
> Country.
>
> red sez: Grant cooks like a California liberal.  Awesome!
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> We need to elect congresscritters with enough spine to cut the emissions of
> the EPA to ZERO.

Be realistic.
That AIN'T gonna happen.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

So tell us more about the new car!  Did you purchase sight-unseen?  Kaleb
price?  Why can't it move under its own power?

-
Max
Charleston SC


yes,  possibly in the range of K  buys now

It has a broken up flex coupling on the driveshaft.

It only has 97,000 miles  A veritable baby!  Looks like it has been 
garage kept.


I don't know much more yet.  It is at a stealer to get a new flex 
coupling, then #1 Daughter  will pick it up and give me a report.


It was cheap enough that I figured i'd come out ok.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

RB wrote:
> I would need or at least want to divide the trip into something like 300
> mile stages and that would thus take me at least the better part of a week
> to get there since my best guess is that we are somewhere in the 12 to 15
> hundred mile range away from you.

I'm game for that.  Let's talk it up for ChowdahQ9.
ChiTown has some interesting places you want to see, plus Rick, and
Gene & Jude's.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] My new purchase

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Have you lost your mind?

Even I would tackle that due to parts cost alone!

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Re: [MBZ] My new purchase

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I hope you have a place inside for the 600.  Do you have enough M100 
handshakes to finish it?  Or do you plan to flip it?




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I really wasn't planning on it - the last time they tweaked the CPU they
blew it up.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I assume the car runs better, lasts longer, or uses less fuel with
> the "illegal" programming?
>
> Therefore, do you want to make that trip to the dealer?
>
> Mitch.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] My new purchase

[OK Don via Mercedes]

OK - it's a stripped down project car. What is it supposed to be when
finished, or did you buy it for parts?
Talk about driving diagonally from one corner of OK to the opposite corner!

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:32 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> Oh, Lordy, Kleb's gone M-100 on us...
>
> > Just picked up in Altus Ok
>
> >
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150918/95d286e9/attachment.jpe
> > >
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I have had a rice cooker, a wok and a bamboo steamer for nearly 40 
years, and we use them regularly.


I also ate mexican food long before there were any mexican 
restaurants.  We had a tortilla press in the 60s and used it.  Also 
early adopters of croissants (baking and selling), yogurt, (and 
making) frozen yogurt (for sale), Mixed Veg noddles and hard cider 
(licensed winery) and other foods, often before they became trendy in 
Collyphonia.


Choice of food, or food prep methods has NO correleation or cause or 
effect related to belief in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or 
the Country.



red sez: Grant cooks like a California liberal.  Awesome!



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Re: [MBZ] My new purchase

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Oh, Lordy, Kleb's gone M-100 on us...

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > On September 18, 2015 at 2:11 PM OK Don via Mercedes 


 wrote:


 Saw that, another trip to the stealer is coming - - -


I assume the car runs better, lasts longer, or uses less fuel with
the "illegal" programming?

Therefore, do you want to make that trip to the dealer?

Mitch.


We need to elect congresscritters with enough spine to cut the 
emissions of the EPA to ZERO.  For the past 6 or 7 years, most of the 
pollution spewed in the USA comes from the EPA.


These allegedly dirty Diesel VWs are so clean you never see even a 
small puff of smoke.  Enough is enough.


Did you know the EPA is trying to take control of all land in the 
USA?  When they succeed, you won't be able to plant a garden without 
paying into the EPA.


The EP friggin A turns 3 states yellow, and spews verbal and legal 
and physical pollution that is worse than (hard to believe it is 
possible) the con gress.


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[MBZ] My new purchase

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just picked up in Altus Ok

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

We just made,about 2 gal of chowdah & clams are on ice.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 18, 2015 at 2:11 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Saw that, another trip to the stealer is coming - - -

I assume the car runs better, lasts longer, or uses less fuel with
the "illegal" programming?

Therefore, do you want to make that trip to the dealer?

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

No, my so-called smart phone could not figure out that a picture was
there.  Accessing from a PC and now direct-email from Curly show picture of
a 124 sedan on the bed of a tow truck.



-
Max
Charleston SC


Correct.  It was supposed to show a 300D on a rollback truck.  It is 
at a stealer now getting a flex disk in the driveshaft.   #1 Daughter 
will take it home sometime.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Crockpot is for things that need to be slow cooked, like stew, chili 
etc. We also have found that it does a good job on lasagna.


RB

On 18/09/2015 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking
destroys vitamins. Therefore, the less cooking time the more vitamins are
preserved.  I usually steam veggies for a couple minutes, then turn off the
heat for 3 or 4 more mins. with the lid on.  I also grill whenever
possible.

Grilled corn:  Soak unhusked ears in the sink for 15 minutes or longer.
Grill on a propane grill (H) for 7.5 minutes, then turn and cook for
another 7.5 mins.  Remove and place in a paper bag to cool slightly.  Then
husk and devour.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:07 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:


archer75--- wrote:

No one addressed the technique of
cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about
how much water should be added.

Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
actually boils.


The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to
covering the vegetables with water (what I did).

All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
food.


it would be better to have vegetablesL flavorful enough to
be eaten without any butter, meat, or flavoring like we did
in Indiana during WW-2.

Hmm.  Maybe it's the vegetables?  Or maybe in WW-II you ate
steamed vegetables.

To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
come from a stove burner or a microwave.


P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will
that flavor the vegetables or must the bacon be cooked
first?

You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
my list of favorite foods...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Note:

What Curt said, but if you wash or rinse the vegetables, then the water that
clings to them is enough. I'm thinking green beans or asparagus here. Some
veggies are great on the grill. Zucchini is a good example: cut them in
quarters lengthwise, put them on a hot grill for about 2 minutes on each of
the 3 sides for a total of about 6 minutes. This should produce some grill
marks. pile them up on a serving plate. They will soften a bit sitting piled
up like that. Season (I just use a bit of Italian dressing) and serve.

If you want to use a crock pot for vegetables, use a temperature controller
device (PID) and keep the vegetables in a vacuum-sealed bag. This technique
is known as sous vide. This technique is wonderful for meat.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

Boiled veggies taste terrible, they have no place in a crock pot.
Put 'em in a covered dish in the microwave with a little water. Cook on high
for 4-5 minutes or until they hit your favorite degree of done-ness. They'll
be faux steamed and taste much better.
Something like asparagus do in the oven, put it on a baking sheet, cover
with olive oil, salt and pepper to taste. Bake at 350-400 for around 10
minutes until soft. I usually cover with foil for baking as the oil might
smoke.
Do kale in a frying pan with butter. Rinse the leaves first and the water on
them will help them steam. Much more flavor than boiling. This is best with
young leaves which are more tender, older ones might be tough and should be
boiled instead.
-Curt

  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com"  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:10 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot
   
Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio:

Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of
the frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4
settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the
intention of cooking raw vegetable in such a way that I can't under-cook,
over-cook, or mess them up in other ways.

No cooking instructions came with the crock pot, and the instructions on the
'net were nearly all about cooking complicated recipes. No one addressed the
technique of cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about how
much water should be added.

I dumped the 3 to 4 quarts of raw vegetable in the pot, covered them with
water and set the pot on 8 hours and low temperature. When it was done, none
of the water seemed to have evaporated and the vegetables had sunk below the
surface. Some of the vegetables seemed to have lost their flavor, so I'm
wondering how little water can be used when cooking raw vegetables since
that improves the flavor according to several on the 'net?

The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to covering the
vegetables with water (what I did).

With a lot of butter and a couple of chicken sausages cut up on top and
reheated in the microwave, the vegetable were pretty good, but it would be
better to have vegetables flavorful enough to be eaten without any butter,
meat, or flavoring like we did in Indiana during WW-2.
Thanks,

Gerry

P.S. The pot is the "Crockpot" brand if that means anything.

P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will that flavor the
vegetables or must the bacon be cooked first?




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Grant cooks like a California liberal.  Awesome!

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok.
>
> The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo
> steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veggies yet
> steam them. No loss of flavor, and vegetables retain some of the natural
> crispness of fresh vegetable, which adds to the food experience.
>
> Someone mentioned asparagus.
> I use a microwave to get perfect asparagus every time. Once you do it this
> way, you will also.
>
> 1. Prep a plate of asparagus [serving for about 4] the normal way by
> snapping the woody ends off. [1 lb of asparagus about fills a dinner plate
> and makes 4 nice servings]
> 2. Add fresh chopped cilantro to taste.
> 3. Add a bit of chopped garlic to taste.
> 4. Add a few pinches of hand rubbed sage [again to taste].
> 5. Add a good portion of butter slices distributed across the asparagus.
> 6. Drizzle of EVO
> 7. A pinch of sea salt and fresh ground pepper.
>
> Cover this stack of goodness with an inverted dinner plate [same size] and
> place in microwave for 4 minutes [caution.. some microwaves are more or
> less powerful so you need to adjust cook time to fit]
>
> The asparagus will steam to perfection in it's own moisture when done this
> way.. I like to let the plate stand for another minute after cooking which
> lets all the spice flavors permeate the asparagus. Then serve.
>
> You will find the asparagus is nicely cooked.. retains just the right
> amount of "firmness" [never soggy or slimy like oven cooked] and the
> infusion of spices add layers of flavor never before found in asparagus.
>
> You may find some other favorite spices to add, I sometimes do.. never yet
> had a complaint.. often had compliments..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:07 AM, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > > archer75--- wrote:
> > >
> > > No one addressed the technique of
> > > cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about
> > > how much water should be added.
> >
> > Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
> > actually boils.
> >
> > > The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to
> > > covering the vegetables with water (what I did).
> >
> > All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
> > half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
> > want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
> > food.
> >
> > > it would be better to have vegetablesL flavorful enough to
> > > be eaten without any butter, meat, or flavoring like we did
> > > in Indiana during WW-2.
> >
> > Hmm.  Maybe it's the vegetables?  Or maybe in WW-II you ate
> > steamed vegetables.
> >
> > To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
> > the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
> > enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
> > boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
> > little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
> > come from a stove burner or a microwave.
> >
> > > P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will
> > > that flavor the vegetables or must the bacon be cooked
> > > first?
> >
> > You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
> > the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
> > my list of favorite foods...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok.

The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo
steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veggies yet
steam them. No loss of flavor, and vegetables retain some of the natural
crispness of fresh vegetable, which adds to the food experience.

Someone mentioned asparagus.
I use a microwave to get perfect asparagus every time. Once you do it this
way, you will also.

1. Prep a plate of asparagus [serving for about 4] the normal way by
snapping the woody ends off. [1 lb of asparagus about fills a dinner plate
and makes 4 nice servings]
2. Add fresh chopped cilantro to taste.
3. Add a bit of chopped garlic to taste.
4. Add a few pinches of hand rubbed sage [again to taste].
5. Add a good portion of butter slices distributed across the asparagus.
6. Drizzle of EVO
7. A pinch of sea salt and fresh ground pepper.

Cover this stack of goodness with an inverted dinner plate [same size] and
place in microwave for 4 minutes [caution.. some microwaves are more or
less powerful so you need to adjust cook time to fit]

The asparagus will steam to perfection in it's own moisture when done this
way.. I like to let the plate stand for another minute after cooking which
lets all the spice flavors permeate the asparagus. Then serve.

You will find the asparagus is nicely cooked.. retains just the right
amount of "firmness" [never soggy or slimy like oven cooked] and the
infusion of spices add layers of flavor never before found in asparagus.

You may find some other favorite spices to add, I sometimes do.. never yet
had a complaint.. often had compliments..



On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:07 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

> > archer75--- wrote:
> >
> > No one addressed the technique of
> > cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about
> > how much water should be added.
>
> Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
> actually boils.
>
> > The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to
> > covering the vegetables with water (what I did).
>
> All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
> half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
> want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
> food.
>
> > it would be better to have vegetablesL flavorful enough to
> > be eaten without any butter, meat, or flavoring like we did
> > in Indiana during WW-2.
>
> Hmm.  Maybe it's the vegetables?  Or maybe in WW-II you ate
> steamed vegetables.
>
> To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
> the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
> enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
> boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
> little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
> come from a stove burner or a microwave.
>
> > P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will
> > that flavor the vegetables or must the bacon be cooked
> > first?
>
> You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
> the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
> my list of favorite foods...
>
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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So tell us more about the new car!  Did you purchase sight-unseen?  Kaleb
price?  Why can't it move under its own power?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Po' thang  can't even go on its own.   'berrasin'
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking
destroys vitamins. Therefore, the less cooking time the more vitamins are
preserved.  I usually steam veggies for a couple minutes, then turn off the
heat for 3 or 4 more mins. with the lid on.  I also grill whenever
possible.

Grilled corn:  Soak unhusked ears in the sink for 15 minutes or longer.
Grill on a propane grill (H) for 7.5 minutes, then turn and cook for
another 7.5 mins.  Remove and place in a paper bag to cool slightly.  Then
husk and devour.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:07 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > archer75--- wrote:
> >
> > No one addressed the technique of
> > cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about
> > how much water should be added.
>
> Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
> actually boils.
>
> > The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to
> > covering the vegetables with water (what I did).
>
> All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
> half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
> want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
> food.
>
> > it would be better to have vegetablesL flavorful enough to
> > be eaten without any butter, meat, or flavoring like we did
> > in Indiana during WW-2.
>
> Hmm.  Maybe it's the vegetables?  Or maybe in WW-II you ate
> steamed vegetables.
>
> To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
> the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
> enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
> boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
> little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
> come from a stove burner or a microwave.
>
> > P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will
> > that flavor the vegetables or must the bacon be cooked
> > first?
>
> You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
> the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
> my list of favorite foods...
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Saw that, another trip to the stealer is coming - - -

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> > VW accused of using software in 482,000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air
> rules
> > Ryan Beene
> > Volkswagen and Audi sold about 482,000 diesel vehicles with illegal
> emissions control software designed to make their cars appear cleaner in
> testing than they are in the real world, the EPA said today.
>
>


-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> archer75--- wrote:
> 
> No one addressed the technique of
> cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about
> how much water should be added.

Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never
actually boils.

> The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to
> covering the vegetables with water (what I did).

All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element
half way up the side!  That means most of the time you will
want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the
food.

> it would be better to have vegetablesL flavorful enough to
> be eaten without any butter, meat, or flavoring like we did
> in Indiana during WW-2.

Hmm.  Maybe it's the vegetables?  Or maybe in WW-II you ate
steamed vegetables.

To steam them, put only enough water in to not run dry during
the heating process.  Then heat the water to boiling in a
enclosed container with the food and let the steam from the
boiling water do the cooking.  With no liquid contact, very
little of the flavor and nutrients are lost.  The heat can
come from a stove burner or a microwave.

> P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will
> that flavor the vegetables or must the bacon be cooked
> first?

You can use uncooked bacon - but leave it in the water until
the bacon is cooked.  Personally, boiled bacon is not high on
my list of favorite foods...

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The Hun are exacting their revenge by trying to poison us with dizzel fumes!

--R


On 9/18/15 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Those bahstahds!





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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, my so-called smart phone could not figure out that a picture was
there.  Accessing from a PC and now direct-email from Curly show picture of
a 124 sedan on the bed of a tow truck.



-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Max wrote:
> > ?
>
> Spam?
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those bahstahds!

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> U.S. clean-air rules
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > VW accused of using software in 482,000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air
> rules
> > Ryan Beene
> > Volkswagen and Audi sold about 482,000 diesel vehicles with illegal
> emissions control software designed to make their cars appear cleaner in
> testing than they are in the real world, the EPA said today.
> >
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[MBZ] Fwd: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482, 000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Automotive News" 
> Date: September 18, 2015 at 12:27:17 PM CDT
> To: 
> Subject: ALERT: VW accused of using software in 482,000 diesels to skirt U.S. 
> clean-air rules
> Reply-To: "Crain Communications Inc." 
> 
> 
> September 18, 2015
> 
>  
> 
>  
> VW accused of using software in 482,000 diesels to skirt U.S. clean-air rules 
> Ryan Beene
> Volkswagen and Audi sold about 482,000 diesel vehicles with illegal emissions 
> control software designed to make their cars appear cleaner in testing than 
> they are in the real world, the EPA said today.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The cawfee is just cawfee, if you wanna put creeem and sugah in it you can do 
what evah you want.
-CurtDoesn't really talk like that...
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
   
Will that Dunkin D's cawfee be cawfee regulah?

--R



On 9/18/15 12:54 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:


> We will have coffee, tea, and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England) available 
> about 10 AM and we will eat lunch about 1 PM.


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Will that Dunkin D's cawfee be cawfee regulah?

--R



On 9/18/15 12:54 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

We will have coffee, tea, and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England) available about 
10 AM and we will eat lunch about 1 PM.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You could always fly in. I don't have an MB anymore so I'll be arriving in a 
VW. Or call one of those specialty rental places and rent an MB.
Or con the dealership into letting you take an extended test drive...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
   

If only you folks were not so far away . . .

Or, if only I were retired and could spend a few days getting there . . . .

I have no real doubt that my car could do it but I am even older than 
the car and do not think I am interested in long days in the seat anymore.
I would need or at least want to divide the trip into something like 300 
mile stages and that would thus take me at least the better part of a 
week to get there since my best guess is that we are somewhere in the 12 
to 15 hundred mile range away from you. Then I would need a few days to 
look around the general area and another week or more to return - maybe 
more as I could do a stop in Ohio to visit relatives of my good wife and 
a side trip to Ottawa to visit my son and his wife. Boy, it would take a 
month or more. I need to win a good big lottery and give up working.

RB


On 18/09/2015 11:54 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: fred.s...@verizon.net 
> Sent: 18 September 2015 16:54
> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Fwd: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
>
>
>
> --Original Message--
>
> From: "Dwight E Giles Jr"
> Date: Aug 26, 2015 5:41:18 PM
> Subject: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
> To: "'82 TD '" com>, "'Burt Anderson'" ctsa...@mac.com>, "'Curt Raymond'" 
> , "'david sherwood'" , "'Fred 
> Moir'" , "'John Grant'" com>, "'John Peterson'" 
> , "'Luke'" , 
> "'rob johnston'" com>, "'Ron Giles'" , "'Roy Noepel'" 
> , com>, "'Skee '" wvoh...@gmail.com>, com>, 
> , "'Jon Agne'" limerockinn.com>, "'Dave Butler'" 
> gmail.com>, "'KG'" , "'John Amarl'" gmail.com>, 
> , ,
> Cc: "'Amanda Wittman'" , 
>
>
> Dear Fellow New England Star Gazers,
> [cid:image003.png@01CE3846.3B88F2A0]
> Just a reminder: Saturday Sept 19, 2015 will be the Eighth Annual Mercedes 
> Benz (and other interesting vehicles-we might have a TDI row) ) Chowdah Fest 
> at Goddard State Park in Warwick, RI. (Same Sites 40-42) Once again- we will 
> have some great new prizes, Curt's Coleman kitchen, famous grill offerings,  
> and of course Karen's famous Chowdah.  Steamed clams will be a new feature 
> this year.  As always it will be a day of great food, good fun, hood-raising, 
> and spinning stories about our beloved Benzes.
> We will have coffee, tea, and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England) available 
> about 10 AM and we will eat lunch about 1 PM.
> http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
> [http://www.riparks.com/Locations/images/Goddard/caoursel%20building%20veiw%20from%20beach.JPG]<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>
>
> Goddard Memorial State Park
> Goddard Memorial State Park. Goddard Park attracts thousands of visitors each 
> year as Rhode Island's most popular Metropolitan Park. The park offers a 
> beautiful ...
> Read more...<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>
>
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions for the day.
> Dwight
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD 231K miles
> 1990 300D 2.5t 251K miles
> Wickford RI
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

If only you folks were not so far away . . .

Or, if only I were retired and could spend a few days getting there . . . .

I have no real doubt that my car could do it but I am even older than 
the car and do not think I am interested in long days in the seat anymore.
I would need or at least want to divide the trip into something like 300 
mile stages and that would thus take me at least the better part of a 
week to get there since my best guess is that we are somewhere in the 12 
to 15 hundred mile range away from you. Then I would need a few days to 
look around the general area and another week or more to return - maybe 
more as I could do a stop in Ohio to visit relatives of my good wife and 
a side trip to Ottawa to visit my son and his wife. Boy, it would take a 
month or more. I need to win a good big lottery and give up working.


RB


On 18/09/2015 11:54 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: fred.s...@verizon.net 
Sent: 18 September 2015 16:54
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: Fwd: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching



--Original Message--

From: "Dwight E Giles Jr"
Date: Aug 26, 2015 5:41:18 PM
Subject: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
To: "'82 TD '" com>, "'Burt Anderson'" ctsa...@mac.com>, "'Curt Raymond'" , "'david sherwood'" , "'Fred Moir'" , "'John Grant'" com>, "'John Peterson'" 
, "'Luke'" , "'rob johnston'" com>, "'Ron Giles'" , "'Roy Noepel'" , com>, "'Skee '" wvoh...@gmail.com>, com>, , 
"'Jon Agne'" limerockinn.com>, "'Dave Butler'" gmail.com>, "'KG'" , "'John Amarl'" gmail.com>, , ,
Cc: "'Amanda Wittman'" , 


Dear Fellow New England Star Gazers,
[cid:image003.png@01CE3846.3B88F2A0]
Just a reminder: Saturday Sept 19, 2015 will be the Eighth Annual Mercedes Benz 
(and other interesting vehicles-we might have a TDI row) ) Chowdah Fest at 
Goddard State Park in Warwick, RI. (Same Sites 40-42) Once again- we will have 
some great new prizes, Curt's Coleman kitchen, famous grill offerings,  and of 
course Karen's famous Chowdah.  Steamed clams will be a new feature this year.  
As always it will be a day of great food, good fun, hood-raising, and spinning 
stories about our beloved Benzes.
We will have coffee, tea, and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England) available about 
10 AM and we will eat lunch about 1 PM.
http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
[http://www.riparks.com/Locations/images/Goddard/caoursel%20building%20veiw%20from%20beach.JPG]<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>

Goddard Memorial State Park
Goddard Memorial State Park. Goddard Park attracts thousands of visitors each 
year as Rhode Island's most popular Metropolitan Park. The park offers a 
beautiful ...
Read more...<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>




Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions for the day.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD 231K miles
1990 300D 2.5t 251K miles
Wickford RI



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[MBZ] Fw: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: fred.s...@verizon.net 
Sent: 18 September 2015 16:54
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: Fwd: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching



--Original Message--

From: "Dwight E Giles Jr"
Date: Aug 26, 2015 5:41:18 PM
Subject: 2015 ChowdahQ Eight fast approaching
To: "'82 TD '" com>, "'Burt Anderson'" ctsa...@mac.com>, "'Curt Raymond'" 
, "'david sherwood'" , "'Fred 
Moir'" , "'John Grant'" com>, "'John Peterson'" 
, "'Luke'" , 
"'rob johnston'" com>, "'Ron Giles'" , "'Roy Noepel'" 
, com>, "'Skee '" wvoh...@gmail.com>, com>, 
, "'Jon Agne'" limerockinn.com>, "'Dave Butler'" 
gmail.com>, "'KG'" , "'John Amarl'" gmail.com>, 
, ,
Cc: "'Amanda Wittman'" , 


Dear Fellow New England Star Gazers,
[cid:image003.png@01CE3846.3B88F2A0]
Just a reminder: Saturday Sept 19, 2015 will be the Eighth Annual Mercedes Benz 
(and other interesting vehicles-we might have a TDI row) ) Chowdah Fest at 
Goddard State Park in Warwick, RI. (Same Sites 40-42) Once again- we will have 
some great new prizes, Curt's Coleman kitchen, famous grill offerings,  and of 
course Karen's famous Chowdah.  Steamed clams will be a new feature this year.  
As always it will be a day of great food, good fun, hood-raising, and spinning 
stories about our beloved Benzes.
We will have coffee, tea, and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England) available about 
10 AM and we will eat lunch about 1 PM.
http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
[http://www.riparks.com/Locations/images/Goddard/caoursel%20building%20veiw%20from%20beach.JPG]<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>

Goddard Memorial State Park
Goddard Memorial State Park. Goddard Park attracts thousands of visitors each 
year as Rhode Island's most popular Metropolitan Park. The park offers a 
beautiful ...
Read more...<http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html>




Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions for the day.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD 231K miles
1990 300D 2.5t 251K miles
Wickford RI



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

And...
Don't try to infuse raw garlic in to olive oil.
I wanted to do that the other day and someone looked it up on internet
and my sons already knew.  Botulism probable from anaerobic condition
in oil.  Okay, so saute garlic in oil on pan and proceed.
Someone please tell us where ChowdahQ will be - thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Curt

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I did a brisket Sunday and used cherry wood.  Very tasty.

--R



On 9/17/15 11:22 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

We also use apple wood (have an old tree in the yard as well), but have a
LOT more oak, and like the oak better for pork and beef. We like the apple
more for poultry, etc. We need to try fish one of these days - - -

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote


BTW, relating to the smoker on your oven, I had applewood smoked ribs
tonight.  Really good!  Hard ro beat apple smoked meat.








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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> ?

Spam?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> The printer mfg's are getting worse about cartridges...

You mean... Carly?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Curt

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> I had planned to build a wood far'd clay oven in my daughter's courtyard so
> I could make Portugee  (Hawaiian) Sweet Bread in the traditional method.

Some of us don't know about gluten eating jazz - give us the recipe, please.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If you do meat in a crock pot you can do the non-fragile veggies like celery 
and carrots but stuff like green beans should be added very late, just 10 
minutes or so before you serve.
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot
   
The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, 
the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my 
mother and grandmothers all did!  Best thing for veggies is to steam 
them for a few minutes, blanch them in some boiling water for a few 
minutes, or saute in some olive oil (and maybe a touch of butter for 
some more flavor) with just a bit of salt to punch up the flavor, maybe 
some garlic and lemon juice, or pepper or a bit of curry powder, etc. 
right at the end.  Unless you are making a veg soup, boiling them for so 
long really gets you nothing.  Plus this process only takes a few 
minutes and the veggies taste like they are fresh, and actually have 
flavor and crunch and taste!

Crock pots are great for stews and such where you want low and slow and 
the flavors to mingle, but I wouldn't do veg in them.  Steaming is nice 
too because with one pot and a steamer basket you can throw in a piece 
of chicken, potatoes, onions, carrots, cabbage, anything else and in a 
very short time have a whole dinner ready to go.

BTW anything will taste good "with a lot of butter"!!!

--R


On 9/18/15 9:10 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio:
>
> Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of 
> the frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 
> settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the 
> intention of cooking raw vegetable in such a way that I can't under-cook, 
> over-cook, or mess them up in other ways.
>
> No cooking instructions came with the crock pot, and the instructions on the 
> 'net were nearly all about cooking complicated recipes. No one addressed the 
> technique of cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about how 
> much water should be added.
>
> I dumped the 3 to 4 quarts of raw vegetable in the pot, covered them with 
> water and set the pot on 8 hours and low temperature. When it was done, none 
> of the water seemed to have evaporated and the vegetables had sunk below the 
> surface. Some of the vegetables seemed to have lost their flavor, so I'm 
> wondering how little water can be used when cooking raw vegetables since that 
> improves the flavor according to several on the 'net?
>
> The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to covering the 
> vegetables with water (what I did).
>
> With a lot of butter and a couple of chicken sausages cut up on top and 
> reheated in the microwave, the vegetable were pretty good, but it would be 
> better to have vegetables flavorful enough to be eaten without any butter, 
> meat, or flavoring like we did in Indiana during WW-2.
> Thanks,
>
> Gerry
>
> P.S. The pot is the "Crockpot" brand if that means anything.
>
> P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will that flavor the 
> vegetables or must the bacon be cooked first?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Curt

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "OK Don" 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Curt



We started with the book "Build Your Own Earth Oven" by Kiko Denzer, 3rd
edition, then 'made it our own'. Big stumbling block was the lack of clay
here - almost only sand and sandstone, so we bought dry fire clay.

We have a lot of oak wood, but no place to use it, hated to just burn it 
to

get rid of it, and my wife has liked this idea for a long time. It takes
five to six hours to get it really hot. You use it to bake pizza, etc.
first with live fire on one side, then roasting with a little less fire,
then more higher heat cooking with the coals in the oven, then remove the
coals and use the residual heat for several more baking's - we could
probably bake three sets of bread.
So it's a matter of heating once, then using for a lot of cooking. It 
takes

two of us to keep up with preparing the food to be cooked to get the most
use of the oven.

Since we both like to 'play with fire', it's a lot of fun. we use the oak
that would otherwise go to waste, and get a lot of really good food that
can last for several days, and bread to freeze that lasts even longer.

I added the smoker box to use the smoke/heat that was just going up while
we were heating the oven - and it works great. I had to extend the chimney
pipe that is directly above the oven door because the draw through the box
was enough to force too much hot smoke into it for slow smoking. I ended 
up
with dampers in both the vertical pipe and the pipe going to the smoker 
box

to control the temp.

We've been baking pizza in the gas grill with  'pizza stone' for years, so
if we want to use gas, we'll continue to use that (a LOT faster for a 
quick

pizza).

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Earth-Oven/dp/096798467X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442546266&sr=1-1&keywords=build+your+own+earth+oven



On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Excellent build. Did you have plans or just have at it?  I am thinking to
build one at some point. I like the smoker box.

My buddy suggested looking into a gas fired oven as they heat up more
quickly and easier to use, you can throw some wood in to get the flavor 
if

you want, or just use wood. There is an outfit in Charlotte that sells a
burner you can use in any design. Makes some sense I guess if you want to
do a quick pizza without the time and hassle of the wood. How long does
yours take yo heat up with wood?

--
OK Don

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*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many 
of

our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few 
who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few 
who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I have some other cartridges, too, and refilled several with hypodermic 
needle 15-20 years ago and thought I might try it again now, but tremor has 
gotten  so severe, I'm afraid it could get messy, indeed.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges


The printer mfg's are getting worse about cartridges, so I bought a black 
and white Samsung laser printer at Walmart for around $!50 and kept the 
$33 Canon for color prints only.


http://www.walmart.com/c/kp/samsung-laser-printers

Laser printers have BIG cartridges that last a LONG time, and the cost per 
page is much less. So far, it does a great job. Time will tell.


For a while I transferred the ink from old printer cartridges to the ones 
I was using by means of a cartridge refill kit available at drug, big box, 
and office supply stores. The kits work with some cartridges, and some 
they don't. I finally resorted to drilling a very small hole in the 
cartridge tanks, withdrawing and refilling with a 10 ml syringe and 
needle, and plugging the hole with silicone. It's messy and best utilized 
if you have more time than money.


Gerry...who still has a few new cartriges for long gone printers



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Re: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The printer mfg's are getting worse about cartridges, so I bought a 
black and white Samsung laser printer at Walmart for around $!50 and 
kept the $33 Canon for color prints only.


http://www.walmart.com/c/kp/samsung-laser-printers

Laser printers have BIG cartridges that last a LONG time, and the 
cost per page is much less. So far, it does a great job. Time will 
tell.


For a while I transferred the ink from old printer cartridges to the 
ones I was using by means of a cartridge refill kit available at 
drug, big box, and office supply stores. The kits work with some 
cartridges, and some they don't. I finally resorted to drilling a 
very small hole in the cartridge tanks, withdrawing and refilling 
with a 10 ml syringe and needle, and plugging the hole with 
silicone. It's messy and best utilized if you have more time than 
money.


Gerry...who still has a few new cartriges for long gone printers


Gerry,

Waytago!  That is a good idea on the ink cartridges.  I have about 
10-12 I was going to take to stap less for the $2 credit.  I gave up 
in inkjets and bought a color laser printer in 2003.  before that I 
had a 11x17 canon/apple color inkjet with 4x$70 cartridges.


Congrats on the samsung laser printer.  Good choice!  I've had one 
labelled as lexmark for about 10 years and it works great.  Only 
problem is there is no driver for Mac, so I have to keep a winders 
server running just to print.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, 
the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my 
mother and grandmothers all did!  Best thing for veggies is to steam 
them for a few minutes, blanch them in some boiling water for a few 
minutes, or saute in some olive oil (and maybe a touch of butter for 
some more flavor) with just a bit of salt to punch up the flavor, maybe 
some garlic and lemon juice, or pepper or a bit of curry powder, etc. 
right at the end.  Unless you are making a veg soup, boiling them for so 
long really gets you nothing.  Plus this process only takes a few 
minutes and the veggies taste like they are fresh, and actually have 
flavor and crunch and taste!


Crock pots are great for stews and such where you want low and slow and 
the flavors to mingle, but I wouldn't do veg in them.  Steaming is nice 
too because with one pot and a steamer basket you can throw in a piece 
of chicken, potatoes, onions, carrots, cabbage, anything else and in a 
very short time have a whole dinner ready to go.


BTW anything will taste good "with a lot of butter"!!!

--R


On 9/18/15 9:10 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio:

Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of the 
frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 
settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the intention 
of cooking raw vegetable in such a way that I can't under-cook, over-cook, or 
mess them up in other ways.

No cooking instructions came with the crock pot, and the instructions on the 
'net were nearly all about cooking complicated recipes. No one addressed the 
technique of cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about how much 
water should be added.

I dumped the 3 to 4 quarts of raw vegetable in the pot, covered them with water 
and set the pot on 8 hours and low temperature. When it was done, none of the 
water seemed to have evaporated and the vegetables had sunk below the surface. 
Some of the vegetables seemed to have lost their flavor, so I'm wondering how 
little water can be used when cooking raw vegetables since that improves the 
flavor according to several on the 'net?

The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to covering the 
vegetables with water (what I did).

With a lot of butter and a couple of chicken sausages cut up on top and 
reheated in the microwave, the vegetable were pretty good, but it would be 
better to have vegetables flavorful enough to be eaten without any butter, 
meat, or flavoring like we did in Indiana during WW-2.
Thanks,

Gerry

P.S. The pot is the "Crockpot" brand if that means anything.

P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will that flavor the 
vegetables or must the bacon be cooked first?




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Boiled veggies taste terrible, they have no place in a crock pot.
Put 'em in a covered dish in the microwave with a little water. Cook on high 
for 4-5 minutes or until they hit your favorite degree of done-ness. They'll be 
faux steamed and taste much better.
Something like asparagus do in the oven, put it on a baking sheet, cover with 
olive oil, salt and pepper to taste. Bake at 350-400 for around 10 minutes 
until soft. I usually cover with foil for baking as the oil might smoke.
Do kale in a frying pan with butter. Rinse the leaves first and the water on 
them will help them steam. Much more flavor than boiling. This is best with 
young leaves which are more tender, older ones might be tough and should be 
boiled instead.
-Curt

  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com"  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:10 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot
   
Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio:

Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of the 
frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 
settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the intention 
of cooking raw vegetable in such a way that I can't under-cook, over-cook, or 
mess them up in other ways.

No cooking instructions came with the crock pot, and the instructions on the 
'net were nearly all about cooking complicated recipes. No one addressed the 
technique of cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about how much 
water should be added.

I dumped the 3 to 4 quarts of raw vegetable in the pot, covered them with water 
and set the pot on 8 hours and low temperature. When it was done, none of the 
water seemed to have evaporated and the vegetables had sunk below the surface. 
Some of the vegetables seemed to have lost their flavor, so I'm wondering how 
little water can be used when cooking raw vegetables since that improves the 
flavor according to several on the 'net?

The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to covering the 
vegetables with water (what I did).

With a lot of butter and a couple of chicken sausages cut up on top and 
reheated in the microwave, the vegetable were pretty good, but it would be 
better to have vegetables flavorful enough to be eaten without any butter, 
meat, or flavoring like we did in Indiana during WW-2.
Thanks,

Gerry

P.S. The pot is the "Crockpot" brand if that means anything.

P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will that flavor the 
vegetables or must the bacon be cooked first?




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[MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio:

Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of the 
frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 
settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the intention 
of cooking raw vegetable in such a way that I can't under-cook, over-cook, or 
mess them up in other ways.

No cooking instructions came with the crock pot, and the instructions on the 
'net were nearly all about cooking complicated recipes. No one addressed the 
technique of cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about how much 
water should be added.

I dumped the 3 to 4 quarts of raw vegetable in the pot, covered them with water 
and set the pot on 8 hours and low temperature. When it was done, none of the 
water seemed to have evaporated and the vegetables had sunk below the surface. 
Some of the vegetables seemed to have lost their flavor, so I'm wondering how 
little water can be used when cooking raw vegetables since that improves the 
flavor according to several on the 'net?

The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to covering the 
vegetables with water (what I did).

With a lot of butter and a couple of chicken sausages cut up on top and 
reheated in the microwave, the vegetable were pretty good, but it would be 
better to have vegetables flavorful enough to be eaten without any butter, 
meat, or flavoring like we did in Indiana during WW-2.
Thanks,

Gerry

P.S. The pot is the "Crockpot" brand if that means anything.

P.S.2: If I put uncooked bacon in with the vegetable, will that flavor the 
vegetables or must the bacon be cooked first?




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Re: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was using off brand cartridges in my Epson with no apparent loss in print 
quality. Then I didn't use the printer for a year and the heads got dried and 
crusty. Peter sent out information on how to clean it but I haven't needed it 
for another year or two so I haven't bothered...
-Curt
  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com"  
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Wiltons printer cartridges
   
The printer mfg's are getting worse about cartridges, so I bought a black and 
white Samsung laser printer at Walmart for around $!50 and kept the $33 Canon 
for color prints only. 

http://www.walmart.com/c/kp/samsung-laser-printers

Laser printers have BIG cartridges that last a LONG time, and the cost per page 
is much less. So far, it does a great job. Time will tell.

For a while I transferred the ink from old printer cartridges to the ones I was 
using by means of a cartridge refill kit available at drug, big box, and office 
supply stores. The kits work with some cartridges, and some they don't. I 
finally resorted to drilling a very small hole in the cartridge tanks, 
withdrawing and refilling with a 10 ml syringe and needle, and plugging the 
hole with silicone. It's messy and best utilized if you have more time than 
money.

Gerry...who still has a few new cartriges for long gone printers

 

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Re: [MBZ] my new OM603

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

?
-- 
Max Dillon
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 17, 2015 11:36:17 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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>
>We wish it well as it makes its way west.
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