Re: [MBZ] AC compressor engage signal on a euro 123 wagon

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Mit Klima, or Sans Klima?    If it has Klima, that is where you start.   
Klima relay fails often.


Otherwise, I'd start at the plug closest to the clutch.   Likely if you 
have voltage there when the clutch should be engaged, the clutch coil is 
bad.   If no volts there, every case I have encountered has been a Klima 
relay gone over the hill.


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 10/19/19 9:33 PM:

OK hypothetically if I needed to pull the climate control signal for the
A/C compressor clutch off a euro 123 wagon control unit, where would I
begin looking for the signal?

WDB 123 193 120 14388

It is the older style unit with the vertical buttons in the middle. I guess
I need to do some reading on how these control units typically fail and how
to test/troubleshoot them.

This motor is from a 2006 320 cdi, so it is a bit of a hybrid.

Thanks,
Karl





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Re: [MBZ] Stealer experience, and key fob

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good story!

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 10/19/19 2:33 PM:

So I go by the stealer with this MB battery from the $600E320 that has the 
broken negative post. Some greeter guy (there were 2) is confused, I tell him I 
need the parts counter, says they are really busy in the service department. 
Uh, parts?  He tells me to pull in the enclosed area. 2 cute greeter honeys are 
confused. They think I need service even though I tell them I just want to get 
a read on a battery. You want to change a battery?  No, just want to find out 
if there’s a warranty. One finally determines that they can look it up with the 
VIN since there’s no date code on the battery, if it was installed by a 
stealer. So they do that and say the last time was 2008. No way this battery is 
11yo but they have no way to know since there’s no receipt. Only a 2yr warranty 
anyway. So no happy ending.

So I left. I guess I’ll get my $9 from the knacker.

On a more positive note the PO said the key fob doesn’t work but she used the 
metal key that’s in there.  So I’ve been doing that this week. I check and 
there’s no battery in the fob, which might be a clue. Got a battery, put it in, 
Magick happens!  So that battery experience worked.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

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Yes the little suction fan is under the passenger side of the dash and the
tube runs up the A pillar and across. Apparently they disintegrate over
time. My little fan honked like a goose, but that noise was from under the
dash. If it is coming from the visor area it must be a suction phenomenon
related to the tube falling apart.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> It sounds like a kazoo. I’ll try to check it out
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The 126 had such an arrangement.  A hose from the blower sucked air past
> the thermistor by the rear-view mirror.
> >
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> >> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:31 PM
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> >> Subject: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320
> >>
> >> There is this constant buzzing sound coming from up around the
> >> mirror/lights/air sensor? thingie. I’m not sure what the little vent
> thing does. Is
> >> air sucked into it as a thermometer function?  It sorta sounds like it
> could be
> >> like that and there’s some constriction in it.
> >>
> >> Or maybe some relays for the lights?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

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It sounds like a kazoo. I’ll try to check it out

--FT
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> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 126 had such an arrangement.  A hose from the blower sucked air past the 
> thermistor by the rear-view mirror.
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:31 PM
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>> Subject: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320
>> 
>> There is this constant buzzing sound coming from up around the
>> mirror/lights/air sensor? thingie. I’m not sure what the little vent thing 
>> does. Is
>> air sucked into it as a thermometer function?  It sorta sounds like it could 
>> be
>> like that and there’s some constriction in it.
>> 
>> Or maybe some relays for the lights?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The 126 had such an arrangement.  A hose from the blower sucked air past the 
thermistor by the rear-view mirror.

> -Original Message-
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> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:31 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320
> 
> There is this constant buzzing sound coming from up around the
> mirror/lights/air sensor? thingie. I’m not sure what the little vent thing 
> does. Is
> air sucked into it as a thermometer function?  It sorta sounds like it could 
> be
> like that and there’s some constriction in it.
> 
> Or maybe some relays for the lights?
> 
> --FT
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[MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There is this constant buzzing sound coming from up around the 
mirror/lights/air sensor? thingie. I’m not sure what the little vent thing 
does. Is air sucked into it as a thermometer function?  It sorta sounds like it 
could be like that and there’s some constriction in it. 

Or maybe some relays for the lights?

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I've had good luck with those paint-in-handle rollers, there are several 
brands, like Paint Stick.
https://www.amazon.com/HomeRight-PaintStick-EZ-Twist-C800952-M-Applicator/dp/B0102ZBALA
The long handle lets you reach high areas without a ladder.  The handle (like a 
big syringe) stores a lot of paint so you are not constantly going back to the 
tray like a regular roller.  The main downside is cleaning the roller (I was 
too cheap to throw away a roller) but cleaning a sprayer is no joy either..  

> -Original Message-
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> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 11:02 AM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting
> 
> As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not 
> one,
> but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor
> Fright airless bulk sprayer:
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html
> 
> I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
> like
> the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want to
> go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much
> unused after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin
> and then sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I
> get my money out of it before it cacks.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OP TEST: Eternabond roof sealing tape on The White Whale

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:42:18 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We've been getting a steady rain all day here in Chucktown, remains of a
> tropical storm that passed by Dan / MG in FL yesterday.  Probably at
> least an inch so far, maybe a bit more.

Nestor


> So far it looks like no water on the floorboards, maybe tomorrow I'll
> take the car out for a spin just to make sure the water isn't hiding /
> lurking and will emerge once the car is in motion.

May the good progress continue!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

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It might, but just don't leave it in there very long  perhaps read the
label?

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> Does dishwasher detergent have bleach in it that might be bad for aluminum?
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> > Use a dishwasher detergent - no foaming, then follow with citric acid.
> >
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> >
> >> I’ve used "Shout Ultra Gel” as it doesn’t foam like most detergents.
> Then
> >> I do a citric acid flush.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
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> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Does dishwasher detergent have bleach in it that might be bad for aluminum?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 7:19 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Use a dishwasher detergent - no foaming, then follow with citric acid.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve used "Shout Ultra Gel” as it doesn’t foam like most detergents. Then
>> I do a citric acid flush.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> What is a good method to use to degrease a cooling system?  Dawn dish
>> soap and run it for a while then flush it out?  Cascade powder?
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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Use a dishwasher detergent - no foaming, then follow with citric acid.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve used "Shout Ultra Gel” as it doesn’t foam like most detergents. Then
> I do a citric acid flush.
>
> -D
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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[MBZ] OP TEST: Eternabond roof sealing tape on The White Whale

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

We've been getting a steady rain all day here in Chucktown, remains of a
tropical storm that passed by Dan / MG in FL yesterday.  Probably at least
an inch so far, maybe a bit more.

So far it looks like no water on the floorboards, maybe tomorrow I'll take
the car out for a spin just to make sure the water isn't hiding / lurking
and will emerge once the car is in motion.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a good bet, maybe you can swap housings, or at least maybe it will
be "close enough".  Sometimes you can add a resistor in series to shift the
values higher up, or add a resistor in parallel to move them down a bit.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I will check it again tomorrow. It’s probably the same values as a 201
>
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> > Do your test values match those in the attached screenshot?  These are
> for
> > a 124 car with OM603 engine, and maybe other engines as well.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >> Yes that is correct
> >>
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> >>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that
> fits
> >> in place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the
> thermistor.
> >>>
> >>> What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a
> >> table or chart that has resistance at different temperatures?
> >>>
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >>>
>  This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and
>  does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping
> >> air
>  flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably
>  check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer
>  available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

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I will check it again tomorrow. It’s probably the same values as a 201

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> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Do your test values match those in the attached screenshot?  These are for
> a 124 car with OM603 engine, and maybe other engines as well.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Yes that is correct
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that fits
>> in place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the thermistor.
>>> 
>>> What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a
>> table or chart that has resistance at different temperatures?
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
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>>> Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>>> 
 This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and
 does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping
>> air
 flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably
 check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer
 available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Do your test values match those in the attached screenshot?  These are for
a 124 car with OM603 engine, and maybe other engines as well.
-
Max
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>
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> >
> >
> > It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that fits
> in place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the thermistor.
> >
> > What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a
> table or chart that has resistance at different temperatures?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and
> >> does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping
> air
> >> flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably
> >> check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer
> >> available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to
> >> part with?
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Re: [MBZ] OT which email client for Android?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks again Philip, really liking the FairEmail app. Just decided to pay for 
the pro features after I had some time to get it set up just right.
 
AquaMail is very nice, but the cost of $2.50 per month in order to have 
multiple accounts and get rid of the nagging ads was a deal killer.
 
I'm going to set up FairEmail on SWMBO's phone, I think she will be happy once 
she learns how it works.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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>> Meade wrote:
>> 
> I'm not sure I can take the time to read the privacy policy for
>> Fair Email:
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

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Yes that is correct 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that fits in 
> place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the thermistor.
> 
> What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a table 
> or chart that has resistance at different temperatures?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and 
>> does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping air 
>> flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably 
>> check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer 
>> available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to 
>> part with?
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

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It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that fits in 
place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the thermistor.
 
What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a table or 
chart that has resistance at different temperatures?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
:
 
> This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and 
> does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping air 
> flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably 
> check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer 
> available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to 
> part with?
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[MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and 
does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping air 
flow.  I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad.  I will probably 
check it again to make sure.  The sensor appears to be no longer 
available anywhere.  Does anybody have one laying around they want to 
part with?



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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Donald Snook

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmm, looks like the cars are really in Delaware.  I contacted the seller
via the email that Pierre provided, I wouldn't mind a rust-free 92 300TE
with a dead engine for to be a transplant recipient, but Delaware cars
would be at a pretty high risk for rust so I think I'm going to pass...
That and now that I've got this new E300 Diesel from Dan I really need to
thin out my fleet a bit to make room in the driveway for another project.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Donald needs the 500 SEC or the 500SE AMG version.
> -
> Max
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>
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>> Pierre Hedary has a subscriber in Texas with a buttload
>> of classic Mercedes for sale
>>
>> https://youtu.be/0CItW1JgTms
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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve used "Shout Ultra Gel” as it doesn’t foam like most detergents. Then I do 
a citric acid flush.

-D



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> and run it for a while then flush it out?  Cascade powder?
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Re: [MBZ] Stealer experience, and key fob

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I wouldn’t totally dismiss the possibility.

My 1998 S210 had a dealer installed battery from 2001 that was on the VMI. It 
was date coded because I saw the date code when I replaced it.

-D

 
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I go by the stealer with this MB battery from the $600E320 that has the 
> broken negative post. Some greeter guy (there were 2) is confused, I tell him 
> I need the parts counter, says they are really busy in the service 
> department. Uh, parts?  He tells me to pull in the enclosed area. 2 cute 
> greeter honeys are confused. They think I need service even though I tell 
> them I just want to get a read on a battery. You want to change a battery?  
> No, just want to find out if there’s a warranty. One finally determines that 
> they can look it up with the VIN since there’s no date code on the battery, 
> if it was installed by a stealer. So they do that and say the last time was 
> 2008. No way this battery is 11yo but they have no way to know since there’s 
> no receipt. Only a 2yr warranty anyway. So no happy ending. 
> 
> So I left. I guess I’ll get my $9 from the knacker. 
> 
> On a more positive note the PO said the key fob doesn’t work but she used the 
> metal key that’s in there.  So I’ve been doing that this week. I check and 
> there’s no battery in the fob, which might be a clue. Got a battery, put it 
> in, Magick happens!  So that battery experience worked. 
> 
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[MBZ] degrease cooling system

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What is a good method to use to degrease a cooling system?  Dawn dish 
soap and run it for a while then flush it out?  Cascade powder?



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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Donald Snook

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Donald needs the 500 SEC or the 500SE AMG version.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes

[MG via Mercedes]

They should and do if they were set up right, with 
the right equipment and the battery back-up 
capabilities.


Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Reminds me of a TV mystery where hospital patients died mysteriously day after 
day at about the same time.  It turned out that he cleanin lady unplugged 
ventilators temporarily so she could plug in the vacuum.

On a serious note, I have the important loads (well pump, fridge etc.) on a 
sub-panel that's connected to an automatic transfer switch.  The LP-fueled 
generator has logic to fire itself up and command the transfer switch.  Seems 
like solar systems should work like that too.


-Original Message-
From:  Dan> Penoff via Mercedes

NFPA 110 requirement, especially for hospitals or any Level 1 life safety 
facility.
Red outlets and covers designate a branch circuit connected to backup power
source(s). Gotta make sure Grandpa’s respirator is plugged in to one of
these….




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Re: [MBZ] Stealer experience, and key fob

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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:33:29 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On a more positive note the PO said the key fob doesn’t work but she
> used the metal key that’s in there.  So I’ve been doing that this week.
> I check and there’s no battery in the fob, which might be a clue. Got a
> battery, put it in, Magick happens!  So that battery experience worked. 

Congratulations!

Reminds me of when I bought an older Ford van about 1974. I was told the
driver's window was broken, so I did not look at any further.

When I sold it to a kid down the street, I saw him opening up the door
and, lo and behold, there was intact glass there. So it was the window
mechanism, not the window itself, which was broken. And to think I could
have avoided some cold driving ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Good. Karens family is ok too but had wicked winds last night.  Good luck
with your move.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 3:50 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Yeah, we had a boatload of rain last night and now that it’s cleared the
> area we’re getting a lot of wind, but the sun is out and it’s a beautiful
> day.
>
> Had some swirly winds (tornadoes) around last night, but nothing close to
> us. Your mom in law was a lot closer to the wind events out in Lakeland.
>
> Thanks for checking!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> > Are you OK from Nestor?
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 11:03 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of
> not one, but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a
> Harbor Fright airless bulk sprayer:
> >
> > https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html <
> https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html>
> >
> > I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and
> really like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not
> sure I want to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to
> do the work.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much
> unused after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious
> coin and then sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes
> well and I get my money out of it before it cacks.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:36:39 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Actually Priyanka did the web chat and had “Happy” ring me to sort it
> out. At least Amazon sorta did ok. 

So "Priyanka" and "Happy" are on-line monikers?


Craig

> --FT
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> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes
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> > 
> > On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:27:37 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I got hold of Amazon, told them to deal with it, Priyanka refunded
> >> my money.  The package will probably show up Monday on my porch...
> > 
> > Priyanka?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, we had a boatload of rain last night and now that it’s cleared the area 
we’re getting a lot of wind, but the sun is out and it’s a beautiful day.

Had some swirly winds (tornadoes) around last night, but nothing close to us. 
Your mom in law was a lot closer to the wind events out in Lakeland.

Thanks for checking!

Dan



> On Oct 19, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> Are you OK from Nestor? 
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 11:03 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not 
> one, but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor 
> Fright airless bulk sprayer:
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html 
> 
> 
> I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
> like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I 
> want to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the 
> work.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much 
> unused after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin 
> and then sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I 
> get my money out of it before it cacks.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks !
That is even $5 off what I have as a member.

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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

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Actually Priyanka did the web chat and had “Happy” ring me to sort it out. At 
least Amazon sorta did ok. 

--FT
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> On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
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> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:27:37 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> 
>> I got hold of Amazon, told them to deal with it, Priyanka refunded my 
>> money.  The package will probably show up Monday on my porch...
> 
> Priyanka?
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[MBZ] Stealer experience, and key fob

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So I go by the stealer with this MB battery from the $600E320 that has the 
broken negative post. Some greeter guy (there were 2) is confused, I tell him I 
need the parts counter, says they are really busy in the service department. 
Uh, parts?  He tells me to pull in the enclosed area. 2 cute greeter honeys are 
confused. They think I need service even though I tell them I just want to get 
a read on a battery. You want to change a battery?  No, just want to find out 
if there’s a warranty. One finally determines that they can look it up with the 
VIN since there’s no date code on the battery, if it was installed by a 
stealer. So they do that and say the last time was 2008. No way this battery is 
11yo but they have no way to know since there’s no receipt. Only a 2yr warranty 
anyway. So no happy ending. 

So I left. I guess I’ll get my $9 from the knacker. 

On a more positive note the PO said the key fob doesn’t work but she used the 
metal key that’s in there.  So I’ve been doing that this week. I check and 
there’s no battery in the fob, which might be a clue. Got a battery, put it in, 
Magick happens!  So that battery experience worked. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://www.hfqpdb.com/best_coupon/AIRLESS+PAINT+SPRAYER+KIT

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Graco is a quality tool... with a quality price. Can't touch one for less
than $400, and that is the low end one.
The Harbor Freight one is $160 on sale. I can own one, break it, buy
another one two times for what I pay for a Graco. Economy of scale says HF
wins..
If I were full time professional, Graco, and charge customers to pay for
it...
Otherwise..
Hire cheap help to do taping, buy HF unit... be done.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:01 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> I watched crews paint with a 24" roller.   I do believe it would be
> faster and far cheaper, and no overspray.   They had 2-4 people brushing
> the trim, then they guy came in with the 24" roller and the room was
> done.  No masking, except the steel door frames they had already painted
> with enamel.
>
> If I were gonna buy a sprayer, buy graco.   They have resale value.
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/19/19 10:02 AM:
> > As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of
> not one, but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a
> Harbor Fright airless bulk sprayer:
> >
> > https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html
> >
> > I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and
> really like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not
> sure I want to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to
> do the work.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much
> unused after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious
> coin and then sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes
> well and I get my money out of it before it cacks.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I watched crews paint with a 24" roller.   I do believe it would be 
faster and far cheaper, and no overspray.   They had 2-4 people brushing 
the trim, then they guy came in with the 24" roller and the room was 
done.  No masking, except the steel door frames they had already painted 
with enamel.


If I were gonna buy a sprayer, buy graco.   They have resale value.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/19/19 10:02 AM:

As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not one, 
but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor Fright 
airless bulk sprayer:

https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html

I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want 
to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.

Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much unused 
after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin and then 
sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I get my 
money out of it before it cacks.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

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I got a smaller version, AA powered, with magnets - but the only place it
will stick is on the engine mount of the plane - next to worthless
everywhere else. Maybe this one will twist and point somewhere useful
without needing to be stuck to something.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I’ve got one and I love it. Darned thing will blind you if you’re not
> careful. The magnetic base is nice, too.
>
> I bought some additional batteries and an external charger on the Island
> of Large Wimmen for maybe $15, so I’ve always got a charged battery for it
> Makes it a lot easier than using the internal USB charger.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's better. First link said $40.
> > Half of $40 gets into the good range.
> >
> >> On October 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Try this link..
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/y3zg3yfd
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[MBZ] Secret Message For Donald Snook

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Pierre Hedary has a subscriber in Texas with a buttload
of classic Mercedes for sale

https://youtu.be/0CItW1JgTms

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Latest flyer from Harbor Freight here shows the sprayer for $160.00.
Rental here would cost that much for two days.
My money goes for the HF unit. Own it, use it when you want. Done deal.

Airless rigs are the cats meow, IMHO the new HF units have pressure
regulation, which is REALLY good.. you can turn down the spray and control
what you shoot much easier.
Clean up is easy with a pail of clean water and dish

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:10 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> At least that was my experience, could be different for others. Trying to
> manage a roller with a long handle and a hose attached made for some really
> unwieldy situations.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:11:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> I tried one of those a few years ago and found it to be more of a PITA
> >> than helpful. Also had one of the “manual” ones that you pumped. Not
> >> impressed with either.
> >
> > Oh! Thank you for the information!
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dan, you might think about a "power roller", a roller which is
> >>> supplied with a hose from a paint pump.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Back when I had rentals, I had tried a powered roller and it sucked.
I ended up buying an 18" roller and accessories to paint whole interiors
with. It was a bit pricey, but painting with a double width roller, the job 
goes very quickly, especially when there are no color changes. Painting
the ceilings will give you arms like Ah-nold though. An eighteen inch roller,
on an extension pole, fully loaded with paint is quite heavy.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

At least that was my experience, could be different for others. Trying to 
manage a roller with a long handle and a hose attached made for some really 
unwieldy situations.

-D


> On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:11:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I tried one of those a few years ago and found it to be more of a PITA
>> than helpful. Also had one of the “manual” ones that you pumped. Not
>> impressed with either.
> 
> Oh! Thank you for the information!
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan, you might think about a "power roller", a roller which is
>>> supplied with a hose from a paint pump.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan says:

>I’ve got one and I love it. Darned thing will blind you if you’re not careful. 
>The magnetic base is nice, too.

>I bought some additional batteries and an external charger on the Island of 
>Large Wimmen for maybe $15, so I’ve always got a charged battery >for it Makes 
>it a lot easier than using the internal USB charger.

Yep.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EBL-2-Pack-18650-Battery-3-7v-3000mAh-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Batteries/844404955

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Re: [MBZ] Forget the $500 S55 I'm going for this

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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:53:52 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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> Yes, that's pretty serious.  Driving bob-tail, what kind of mileage does
> she get?

I don't know what kind of mileage he gets because I have not driven him on
a long enough trip to figure it out; engine warmup -- which can take up to
one-half hour -- distorts the mileage I get around here.


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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:27:37 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I got hold of Amazon, told them to deal with it, Priyanka refunded my 
> money.  The package will probably show up Monday on my porch...

Priyanka?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:11:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I tried one of those a few years ago and found it to be more of a PITA
> than helpful. Also had one of the “manual” ones that you pumped. Not
> impressed with either.

Oh! Thank you for the information!


Craig


> > On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Dan, you might think about a "power roller", a roller which is
> > supplied with a hose from a paint pump.

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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Postal regulations passed by bureaucrats carry the weight of federal law. If 
you go to a post office without street parking, you're unarmed for the entire 
trip or you're a federal felon, because guns are banned on all USPS property, 
including parking lots. I suppose you could just leave your gun in the street 
before you drive into the lot.

In the matter of your package, I think it goes back if not picked up in ten 
days. 
Mitch.

> On October 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The whole point is not having to deal with the PO, the local is totally 
> useless, some Soviet-style bureaucracy starting before you even walk in 
> the door. NO CONCEALED WEAPONS ALLOWED.

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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The whole point is not having to deal with the PO, the local is totally 
useless, some Soviet-style bureaucracy starting before you even walk in 
the door. NO CONCEALED WEAPONS ALLOWED.   WAIT IN LINE UNTIL CALLED.   
STAND BEHIND LINE UNTIL CALLED.  DO NOT PLACE ITEMS ON COUNTER.  And 
their hours are abysmal.  It's worse than the DMV.


I got hold of Amazon, told them to deal with it, Priyanka refunded my 
money.  The package will probably show up Monday on my porch...


Headed to Advance Auto while I'm out on errands, will be $4 cheaper 
anyway.  Gonna go drop the Benz battery with the broken neg post from 
the $600E320 at the stealer, see if I can get any credit on a new one.


--FT

On 10/19/19 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:56:23 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Now the mailbox is probably not big enough, but the worthless USPS
"worker" couldn't be arsed to drive down my driveway and leave it on
the porch like has been done many times before.  So they leave a note I
can go to the PO to pick it up.  The PO hours are stupid and the people
who work there are stupid so that is inconvenient and a pain in the
arse too.

Can you complain to the Postmaster? I have found dealing with the
Postmaster to be helpful here in Moriarty.

Do you have to go to the Post Office to refuse the package and have them
send it back where it came from?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:56:23 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Now the mailbox is probably not big enough, but the worthless USPS
> "worker" couldn't be arsed to drive down my driveway and leave it on
> the porch like has been done many times before.  So they leave a note I
> can go to the PO to pick it up.  The PO hours are stupid and the people
> who work there are stupid so that is inconvenient and a pain in the
> arse too.

Can you complain to the Postmaster? I have found dealing with the
Postmaster to be helpful here in Moriarty.

Do you have to go to the Post Office to refuse the package and have them
send it back where it came from?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I tried one of those a few years ago and found it to be more of a PITA than 
helpful. Also had one of the “manual” ones that you pumped. Not impressed with 
either.

-D


> On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:49:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> One room the time is probably a wash unless you have some special 
>> circumstance like the popcorn which wouldn't roll
> 
> Dan, you might think about a "power roller", a roller which is supplied
> with a hose from a paint pump.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>> On 10/19/19 11:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Prep is the name of the game, for sure. The key here is that I will
>>> probably do the place a room at a time, meaning that it won’t be a
>>> production shoot where I go in and shoot a bunch of rooms or ceilings
>>> all at once. That’s why I’m on the fence about it, as with the
>>> masking and cleanup time required I’m not sure it would make all that
>>> much of a difference.
>>> 
>>> Hmm.
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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s too bad. I love our postal carriers, they’re both great guys and will 
always leave stuff in a safe place. Granted, my vast estate is maybe 40 feet 
from the curb, but….

I also like that they’ll come to the door and ring the bell for Priority Mail 
packages when I have one to go out. I just leave the flag up and stick a little 
note saying I’ve got a package for pickup and they come right up and get it.

That being said, I regularly give them (cold) bottled water when I see them and 
slip them a $20 around the holidays.

I had the same carrier for nearly 20 years, Miss Becky, and she rocked. Sadly, 
she had knee issues and finally bailed because of them. We loved Miss Becky.

I was at the PO today to pick up a certified letter from my HOA bitching about 
the oil stains on my driveway (bite me) and the guys at the windows were all 
younger veterans who were pretty raucous. Long beards that were in braids, 
major tats, etc. If you saw one of them in a bar you’d think they were gang 
bangers or bikers. Nice guys.

-D


> On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to change the rear diff fluid on the $600E320, ordered some from the 
> large wimmins.  Get a notice will be delivered yesterday, which wasn't 2 day 
> prime but whatever.  So then yesterday about noon I'm sitting here, get a 
> message that the package couldn't be delivered at the vast estate because 
> there was no secure place to leave it.  Now the mailbox is probably not big 
> enough, but the worthless USPS "worker" couldn't be arsed to drive down my 
> driveway and leave it on the porch like has been done many times before.  So 
> they leave a note I can go to the PO to pick it up.  The PO hours are stupid 
> and the people who work there are stupid so that is inconvenient and a pain 
> in the arse too.
> 
> I get the Advance Auto email this morning, I look and they have the stuff for 
> 20% less than my order, so I ordered that online and will go pick it up there 
> in awhile, which I could have done the other day anyway and saved all this 
> agita.  I'm gonna tell Amazon they can have their order back, let them deal 
> with it.
> 
> I hate the post office.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:49:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> One room the time is probably a wash unless you have some special 
> circumstance like the popcorn which wouldn't roll

Dan, you might think about a "power roller", a roller which is supplied
with a hose from a paint pump.


Craig


> On 10/19/19 11:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > Prep is the name of the game, for sure. The key here is that I will
> > probably do the place a room at a time, meaning that it won’t be a
> > production shoot where I go in and shoot a bunch of rooms or ceilings
> > all at once. That’s why I’m on the fence about it, as with the
> > masking and cleanup time required I’m not sure it would make all that
> > much of a difference.
> >
> > Hmm.

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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve got one and I love it. Darned thing will blind you if you’re not careful. 
The magnetic base is nice, too.

I bought some additional batteries and an external charger on the Island of 
Large Wimmen for maybe $15, so I’ve always got a charged battery for it Makes 
it a lot easier than using the internal USB charger.

-D


> On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's better. First link said $40.
> Half of $40 gets into the good range.
> 
>> On October 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Try this link..
>> 
>> https://tinyurl.com/y3zg3yfd
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

You could always declare paint week, pick your colors, mask off the new house, 
and shoot it in a day with a pro quality rental after all the prep is done.

Then get some pails of neutral paint and do the same with the old house after 
you move out. How does two day's rent compare to a month's depreciation on the 
HF unit?

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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's better. First link said $40.
Half of $40 gets into the good range.

> On October 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Try this link..
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y3zg3yfd

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[MBZ] Whinging

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wanted to change the rear diff fluid on the $600E320, ordered some 
from the large wimmins.  Get a notice will be delivered yesterday, which 
wasn't 2 day prime but whatever.  So then yesterday about noon I'm 
sitting here, get a message that the package couldn't be delivered at 
the vast estate because there was no secure place to leave it.  Now the 
mailbox is probably not big enough, but the worthless USPS "worker" 
couldn't be arsed to drive down my driveway and leave it on the porch 
like has been done many times before.  So they leave a note I can go to 
the PO to pick it up.  The PO hours are stupid and the people who work 
there are stupid so that is inconvenient and a pain in the arse too.


I get the Advance Auto email this morning, I look and they have the 
stuff for 20% less than my order, so I ordered that online and will go 
pick it up there in awhile, which I could have done the other day anyway 
and saved all this agita.  I'm gonna tell Amazon they can have their 
order back, let them deal with it.


I hate the post office.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

One room the time is probably a wash unless you have some special 
circumstance like the popcorn which wouldn't roll


--FT

On 10/19/19 11:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve used them before, either rentals or borrowed from someone I know.

I painted the whole interior of our 3,000 sf place in Wisconsin in about 4-5 
hours with one. That was pretty much all the same color throughout the house, 
but it did the job. Semi-gloss eggshell by the 5 gallon bucket, but our 
approach was to get it done and then once we got settled in decide specific 
colors for things like bedrooms.

Did the exterior of my mother in law’s house a few years ago with one. Spent a 
day masking and the second day painting. 800 sf single story place, took maybe 
a couple of hours to shoot if that. That was a huge time saver.

Prep is the name of the game, for sure. The key here is that I will probably do 
the place a room at a time, meaning that it won’t be a production shoot where I 
go in and shoot a bunch of rooms or ceilings all at once. That’s why I’m on the 
fence about it, as with the masking and cleanup time required I’m not sure it 
would make all that much of a difference.

Hmm.

-D

  

On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I got one to paint a room with popcorn ceiling.  It works great, well worth the 
price, seems like a good unit.  Get 5gal buckets of paint, put the sprayer on a 
milk crate (tie it down) so the feed tube goes right into the bucket, and have 
at it.  Get another 5gal bucket to do the primer water and then cleaning.

The only downside is you have to mask off everything, cover floors, which takes 
time, but you can spray a room in like 10min, so either way takes close to the 
same amount of time.

I primed and painted the popcorn ceiling, looked really good. Next morning I 
see a small area pulling off, pulled on it and like 40% of the ceiling just 
zipped right off!  The rest pulled off just as easily!  So back to the sprayer 
on bare sheetrock...

--FT

On 10/19/19 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not one, 
but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor Fright 
airless bulk sprayer:

https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html

I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want 
to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.

Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much unused 
after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin and then 
sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I get my 
money out of it before it cacks.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Try this link..

https://tinyurl.com/y3zg3yfd 

-D

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Our favorite LED work light is on sale at HF this weekend:
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/390-Lumen-Magnetic-Slim-Bar-Folding-LED-Work-Light-63958.html
> 
> I love mine!
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve used them before, either rentals or borrowed from someone I know.

I painted the whole interior of our 3,000 sf place in Wisconsin in about 4-5 
hours with one. That was pretty much all the same color throughout the house, 
but it did the job. Semi-gloss eggshell by the 5 gallon bucket, but our 
approach was to get it done and then once we got settled in decide specific 
colors for things like bedrooms.

Did the exterior of my mother in law’s house a few years ago with one. Spent a 
day masking and the second day painting. 800 sf single story place, took maybe 
a couple of hours to shoot if that. That was a huge time saver.

Prep is the name of the game, for sure. The key here is that I will probably do 
the place a room at a time, meaning that it won’t be a production shoot where I 
go in and shoot a bunch of rooms or ceilings all at once. That’s why I’m on the 
fence about it, as with the masking and cleanup time required I’m not sure it 
would make all that much of a difference.

Hmm.

-D

 
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got one to paint a room with popcorn ceiling.  It works great, well worth 
> the price, seems like a good unit.  Get 5gal buckets of paint, put the 
> sprayer on a milk crate (tie it down) so the feed tube goes right into the 
> bucket, and have at it.  Get another 5gal bucket to do the primer water and 
> then cleaning.
> 
> The only downside is you have to mask off everything, cover floors, which 
> takes time, but you can spray a room in like 10min, so either way takes close 
> to the same amount of time.
> 
> I primed and painted the popcorn ceiling, looked really good. Next morning I 
> see a small area pulling off, pulled on it and like 40% of the ceiling just 
> zipped right off!  The rest pulled off just as easily!  So back to the 
> sprayer on bare sheetrock...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/19/19 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not 
>> one, but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor 
>> Fright airless bulk sprayer:
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html
>> 
>> I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
>> like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I 
>> want to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the 
>> work.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much 
>> unused after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious 
>> coin and then sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well 
>> and I get my money out of it before it cacks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What's the sale price?
I see it for $35 at river of large wimmen.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B9FVBVP

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[MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2637219549674876/

1983 Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
Gaston, SC· about an hour ago 
· 


$2,500

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 320,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Silver
 *
 o

 o Good condition
   

Seller's Description

1983 Mercedes Benz 300sd, 321k Miles, sliver/blueish but paint is faded 
on hood and top is car, sides of car are pretty shinny still, runs and 
drives great, new motor mounts, new tires and alignment, interior is 
worn pretty good has newer front seats out of another Benz , new brake 
master cylinder, lights all work, has been a daily driver . $2500


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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's probably not too unreasonable, it looks in sorta OK condition.

--FT

On 10/19/19 8:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

What's that worth on the mainland if you ferry it to Washington?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I got one to paint a room with popcorn ceiling.  It works great, well 
worth the price, seems like a good unit.  Get 5gal buckets of paint, put 
the sprayer on a milk crate (tie it down) so the feed tube goes right 
into the bucket, and have at it.  Get another 5gal bucket to do the 
primer water and then cleaning.


The only downside is you have to mask off everything, cover floors, 
which takes time, but you can spray a room in like 10min, so either way 
takes close to the same amount of time.


I primed and painted the popcorn ceiling, looked really good. Next 
morning I see a small area pulling off, pulled on it and like 40% of the 
ceiling just zipped right off!  The rest pulled off just as easily!  So 
back to the sprayer on bare sheetrock...


--FT

On 10/19/19 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not one, 
but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor Fright 
airless bulk sprayer:

https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html

I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want 
to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.

Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much unused 
after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin and then 
sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I get my 
money out of it before it cacks.

-D



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[MBZ] Braun LED Work Light

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our favorite LED work light is on sale at HF this weekend:

https://www.harborfreight.com/390-Lumen-Magnetic-Slim-Bar-Folding-LED-Work-Light-63958.html

I love mine!

-D
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[MBZ] wow

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/yadkinville-mercedes-benz-560-sl-1988/7001469725.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am sure it would be fine.  It has a lot of reviews on it and they 
appear to be good.


On 10/19/2019 10:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not one, 
but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor Fright 
airless bulk sprayer:

https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html

I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want 
to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.

Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much unused 
after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin and then 
sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I get my 
money out of it before it cacks.

-D



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[MBZ] OT - Interior Painting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As it appears that I will soon be tasked with painting the interior of not one, 
but two homes (new and old) I was seriously considering buying a Harbor Fright 
airless bulk sprayer:

https://www.harborfreight.com/Airless-Paint-Sprayer-Kit-60600.html

I’ve used bulk sprayers before, both inside and outside a house, and really 
like the speed at which you can paint large areas. However, I’m not sure I want 
to go “all in” on this, either, as I’ll have plenty of time to do the work.

Anyone have any experience with the HF unit? As this will be pretty much unused 
after I’m done, I have to consider whether I want to drop serious coin and then 
sell whatever I buy, or go on the cheep and hope all goes well and I get my 
money out of it before it cacks.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs a Project

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:03:03 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1118304598378636


I like the comment

" ... and can probably be trusted on trips of three miles or less."


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs a Project

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Find the chilli spoof FB Page. it’s a total riot

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> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow. Chillicothe, OH. Close to everything!
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1118304598378636
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs a Project

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

"Just think how happy your wife will be if you bring it home as a surprise."

Indeed!
-
Max
Charleston SC


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>
> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1118304598378636
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Re: [MBZ] Forget the $500 S55 I'm going for this

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, that's pretty serious.  Driving bob-tail, what kind of mileage does
she get?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:10 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 23:35:09 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > And I like the looks. Serious, all business, ugly like a real truck
> > should look.
>
> You mean like the attached picture?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

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What's that worth on the mainland if you ferry it to Washington?

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Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs a Project

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow. Chillicothe, OH. Close to everything!

-D


> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1118304598378636
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The paint is likely pretty dry so it will need some "love" to get it to
shine properly... it has some damage places from sun and environment, with
care I wager it would take a nice shine with "patina"...
Lovely car... how is interior?

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>
> https://anchorage.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairbanks-1965-daimler-250-saloon/6989425931.html
>
> Nice enough project car that I could spiff up and put onto BaT
>
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